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Welcome to your brand new second date update. We're so glad you're here. Yeah, you found the podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and what? Oh, today's about timing how long a date should be. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Alexis
I love that your timing was kind of off as just, I wish I.
Brooke
Would have done it on purpose.
Alexis
I was comedic.
Brooke
I didn't. I didn't do it on purpose. But this guy's first date lasted five days. Or that was his plan anyway. You're going to hear the whole story in just a second. How could that go wrong? Yeah, how could it go wrong? And you may think that we have another man in the studio, but it's just Alex. Alexis, it's me who lost her voice. Yes. That's not gonna stop me from reading your comments. That's right, Alexis, give us that in your sultry voice. Yes, but Lincoln Godfrey said I showed my personal trainer dad this podcast a couple months ago. And ever since this, whenever I stop in his gym, he's always playing this for his clients to work out to.
Alexis
Let's go. Wait, can we make you work out harder or lazier? Like, are you.
Brooke
It's good for your ab muscles if you laugh.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
You're doing crunches. There it. All right, I love that. Let's get this second date brand new started right now.
Advertiser 1
Second date update. What do you do if you've been on the dating apps for so long? You start seeing the same people on there over and over and over.
Brooke
Does that happen? Yeah. Or you like delete it and then two years later you get it and you're like, you again.
Advertiser 1
Start thinking like, oh, they haven't found somebody yet. Oh, that Catfish account is still active. Weird. At that point, they're not potential soulmates to you you anymore. They're more like co workers just occupying the same space as you every single day.
Alexis
Hey, Sarah, good to see you here again.
Advertiser 1
That's where one of our listeners, Patrick, found himself recently and he chose to do something about it. Let's find out. Patrick, welcome to the show.
Patrick
Hey guys, thanks for having me.
Brooke
It's funny to think that the people that are you are seeing are also seeing you and thinking the same thing.
Advertiser 1
Yeah, yeah. You know, but it sounds like you were on the dating apps for a long time.
Patrick
Yeah, I was.
Brooke
Unfortunately, he's like, why bring it up, Jeff?
Patrick
Yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Advertiser 1
But it says that you decided to do something about it to change that. What did you do?
Patrick
So I kept seeing the same people. Yeah. So I expanded my location.
Brooke
So you're willing to drive four hours for a date now?
Patrick
Basically.
Advertiser 1
So you expanded your search to farther away and who did you end up matching with?
Patrick
Her name was Lisa. And our first date actually ended up being a vacation.
Brooke
What? Wait, it's that far away that you had to take a whole weekend to get there?
Alexis
What the heck?
Patrick
Well, it was kind of more of a separate trip.
Brooke
Whoa. You invited her on a vacation and she said yes?
Patrick
Well, it happened to coincide with the work vacation, so I just thought I would bring her and it sounded fun and spontaneous.
Alexis
It's funny because every time, sometimes I feel like when I go on a vacation and a girl will always joke like, oh my God, take me with you. Like, you don't actually take them with you. That's a stranger, bro.
Brooke
Did she know you don't live in her city?
Patrick
Yeah, I told her. I told her.
Lisa
Yeah.
Advertiser 1
Okay.
Brooke
So confused. And you're calling this a work vacation? Aren't those two words that don't go together?
Patrick
It's kind of sponsored by my work. It's a five day trip that we could take if we want.
Brooke
Oh my God. You spent five days together?
Alexis
Wow.
Patrick
Well, it was supposed to be five days. It actually lasted about a day and a half.
Brooke
A day and a half.
Advertiser 1
Okay, that's not good.
Patrick
Why?
Advertiser 1
What happened?
Patrick
Well, I'm not quite sure actually. We. We were staying in the same room and of course we were going to restaurants. We were seeing the sites, doing all the stuff and having a really good time in my mind and oh my.
Brooke
Gosh, like, you're staying in the same room. Did she. Like there's just so many layers to that. Like you're meeting this person for the first time and you're going to be using the same bathroom is all I can think. Yeah.
Advertiser 1
To be Fair. We can't talk about anything without talking about the bathrooms. If Brook's involved in the conversation.
Brooke
That, like, makes it super awkward, right?
Alexis
Oh, like using the bathroom and having.
Brooke
To get ready and having. You know, and just, like, when you.
Alexis
Have to toot like that, you got to hold it for, like, three days sometimes, right?
Brooke
I mean, that's.
Advertiser 1
Is that why she ghosted you after a day and a half?
Patrick
I hope not. I mean, I didn't think all that through at the time, and I should have, for sure.
Alexis
So was there, like, a moment, bro?
Advertiser 1
Like, yeah, tell us about. Like, tell us about the vibe of the vacation. Like, how did it go up to that point?
Patrick
Well, I thought it was going well. You know, we were having a lot of laughs. She seemed to be enjoying herself. I was enjoying myself. And we went on this bike tour, like, the first day we were there, and we were on the bus coming back from it, and she just said, I know where. Said, hey, I need to talk to you. I don't think I could make you happy.
Advertiser 1
That's what she said.
Patrick
Yeah. And she got off the bus at the next stop, and I don't know what happened to me, but I just started crying.
Brooke
Oh, man, this is so many emotions. Was it one of those. So much. Was it one of those wine bike tours? Because after I drink, sometimes I like to cry a lot, too.
Advertiser 1
Emotional.
Alexis
Emotional.
Patrick
There was no alcohol involved, actually. Okay. I don't know why I got emotional. It's probably. I imagine it's because I've been on the apps for so long, and then, like, I finally found somebody that I connected with, and we were in a beautiful place. It was more dramatic again.
Brooke
No, it's not dramatic. That's just having feelings, man. That's all right.
Advertiser 1
Either that or you got dust in your eye. Could be either one.
Patrick
Sand in my eye.
Brooke
What do you think she meant by I can't make you happy?
Patrick
That's what I would like to find out. I mean, when I got back, she was kind of packing up all her stuff, and, yeah, I gave her space, and then she left, and I haven't really heard anything except she texted once that we're probably better off friends.
Advertiser 1
Okay, well, it sounds like you planned a lot of activities for your vacation, and some people, when they travel, they don't like to do that, bro.
Alexis
I'm just. Yeah, like, let's do one activity, maybe two.
Advertiser 1
But, yeah, mostly do beach time. No bike tours.
Brooke
Jose and I could never vacation together.
Advertiser 1
No. Maybe she realized you weren't compatible in that way.
Patrick
Yeah, I mean, that could be. She seemed to be into all the little things I planned for us, though.
Brooke
It's just so much time together. And she's adventurous enough to agree to a five day vacation with a guy off a dating app.
Advertiser 1
But maybe she just wanted the free vacation to like, lie up by the pool the whole time. Didn't want to be going to the zoo and going to the.
Brooke
Maybe she thought he'd be working and she was just getting a free vacation.
Advertiser 1
How long has it been since that happened?
Patrick
It was about a week ago.
Brooke
Okay. Okay. And obviously you're upset about it.
Patrick
Yeah, I'm very upset. I mean, crying in front of strangers is upset.
Brooke
Who hasn't cried in front of strangers? You're fine.
Advertiser 1
Yeah, well, maybe she's still even there now. Maybe she's just partying it up wherever you guys went to.
Alexis
Maybe she moved.
Advertiser 1
Let's find out when we call her. We'll come back, we'll try and get you your second date update right after this. Hold on. Second date update? Some people like to go out to a restaurant for a first date. Others might see a concert or hit up mini golf. But not our listener, Patrick.
Brooke
No.
Advertiser 1
He jumps straight to a five day vacation for his first date with Lisa. At least it was supposed to be five days. Yeah, but she cut things off after just a day and a half.
Brooke
And she did it in a pretty respectful way.
Advertiser 1
The last thing that she said to him was, I don't think I can make you happy. Yeah, the last thing he said to her was because he cried from that comment. Understandably, he'd built up a lot of hope. And those bike tours can make you chafe real bad too. So.
Brooke
Not only that, but he's been on the dating apps for years, so it's like years of pent up frustration just coming out.
Alexis
And I think it's worse when you think things are going well, right?
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
He was like, this is great.
Lisa
And then.
Alexis
Oh no.
Advertiser 1
Got blindsided. The thing is, he still doesn't know understand what prompted her to say that. Patrick, if you had to guess, what do you think it is?
Patrick
Maybe it was my breath. Your breath usually have gum and I didn't have it.
Brooke
Can't be an ick. I'm not sure why that would prompt her to say, I don't know why I can't make you happy, but I.
Alexis
Cannot recommend a dentist.
Advertiser 1
She didn't have gum either. Brooke, it's the romantic tragedy of the century.
Alexis
Now it makes sense.
Brooke
I mean, maybe you guys can try to get just a single date together. Maybe that will be the key here.
Patrick
I like that. But we do live in different cities, so somebody's gonna have to travel.
Brooke
Okay.
Advertiser 1
Meeting up is a vacation in itself.
Alexis
So, hey, that may be kind of fun. It's like once a month someone takes a vacation.
Advertiser 1
That could be. Let's start with trying to get expensive. Let's start with trying to get her to pick up the phone first and hopefully get an answer out of her. But I'm gonna dial her number right now. Let's see how this goes.
Lisa
Hello?
Advertiser 1
Hey, is this Lisa?
Lisa
Yeah, who's this?
Advertiser 1
Hey, thanks for picking up. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Brooke
Hi, Lisa.
Alexis
Hey, Lisa.
Brooke
Good morning.
Lisa
Hi, good morning.
Advertiser 1
Sorry to interrupt your day like this, but we're doing a segment on our show. It's called the Second Date Update. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, but one of our listeners named Patrick has asked us to reach out to you.
Lisa
Oh, wow. Okay.
Patrick
Oh, wow?
Alexis
Like oh, wow?
Lisa
No, not oh, wow.
Advertiser 1
Oh, okay.
Brooke
Are you surprised to be hearing from Patrick?
Lisa
Yeah, I'm surprised. Well, I guess I'm not surprised because he seemed pretty desperate.
Advertiser 1
Oh, desperate?
Brooke
Oh, come on.
Advertiser 1
That's a pretty harsh judgment for someone that you hung out with for like a day, a day and a half.
Lisa
Trust me, you'd be saying the same thing if you knew all the things that he said and did.
Brooke
What?
Jose
Really?
Advertiser 1
Okay, desperate.
Alexis
It's like a different level of thirsty.
Brooke
That's so wild. Like, we talked to him. He seems so mellow.
Lisa
Yeah, maybe it's you because he's not in love with you like he would.
Advertiser 1
That's not fair either. I was sensing love vibes towards me personally.
Patrick
But.
Brooke
He can't be in love with you. I mean, he just sounds like he really liked you and you two finally connected.
Lisa
He was behaving as if he loved me.
Advertiser 1
Oh, geez. What happened to make you say that? Because I don't think we have the full story. Like, we know that he did a lot like a vacation.
Brooke
You agreed to go on a five day vacation with him, which is wild.
Lisa
Yeah, that's the thing. It was just. It was a lot. And yes, I agreed to go on this trip, but there didn't need to be extra pressure on top of it. And there was.
Brooke
Okay, how so?
Lisa
So our first night there, we went to dinner and he was like, I could totally see myself proposing here. He wasn't talking about me, but it was like he was waiting for Some of me to be like, oh, yeah, like, well, I'll be so lovely one day. Or, you know, I don't know. I was like, okay. And then the next day, we go on the tour, and he introduces me to the guide as, oh, this is my future wife.
Brooke
Oh, no.
Alexis
Okay, hold on. Was he kidding?
Advertiser 1
Like, was he like, this is my future wife.
Alexis
Like, how did he say it?
I
Is it funny?
Brooke
Even if he was kidding, there was.
Lisa
A note of kidding, but it was not enough to, like.
Alexis
Yeah, to justify.
Brooke
I mean, he sounds kind of like an earnest guy who can be a little awkward.
Advertiser 1
Yeah, he's right.
Brooke
When we talk to him.
Lisa
No, this was beyond. Like, he then wanted to stop at a jewelry store, and he was like, hey, let's go check out some, like, ring.
Advertiser 1
Okay, but did you tell him ahead of time that you're against love and the idea of marrying someone in a beautiful location?
Lisa
I'm not against love and marriage and all those things. It's more that I don't need it on my first date. Like, let's get to know each other first.
Alexis
That's true.
Brooke
Ring shopping is wild. I mean, not.
Alexis
I mean, I was. I was almost engaged, and we still never went ring shopping.
Brooke
Maybe it was a local artisan shop and he was just being a tourist.
Alexis
He's looking for a necklace, and there happened to be rings there.
Advertiser 1
Well, we don't have to speculate on, like, what he was thinking and where his mind is at, because he's actually on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.
Alexis
He's on one knee, I think.
Advertiser 1
No, he is.
Brooke
Give him a chance.
Advertiser 1
Patrick, are you there?
Patrick
Yeah, I'm kind of bummed out that I haven't heard from you. You haven't returned any of my calls or messages.
Lisa
Wow. Like I said, it really. I didn't think it was a good fit. I didn't think we were handling the pace of everything and seeing eye to eye.
Brooke
Was that hard to hear, Patrick?
Patrick
Yeah, of course it's hard to hear. I mean, I. To be fair, I didn't actually propose.
Brooke
Yeah, we know.
Alexis
We know.
Patrick
For the. The ring shop. I feel like you're blowing it out of proportion a little bit. I was just curious what your taste was. It's kind of fun to go into a shop. It could have been a T shirt store, you know, Anyway.
Lisa
Yeah, it was really too much. It was too much.
Patrick
Yeah. I know you're saying it's too much a lot, but sometimes people just know. It's like an instinctual thing, and you just Feel it. For my parents, I mean, it was love at first sight. They fell in love within the first few minutes of meeting each other. They ended up having four kids very soon after that.
Alexis
Okay, I bet they were on the same page.
Brooke
I think that's a good timeline to lay out after what she just said.
Lisa
Yeah, and that reminds me of the time also, you said, oh, one day I hope we can have future kids. Little us's.
Patrick
Wow.
Brooke
In a day and a half.
Patrick
Isn't that what everybody wants in life? I mean, I thought that's why we were going on a date in the first place, is to find love. Really? Isn't that why people.
Brooke
Yeah. In the long run, we should have known. A guy who invites a girl on a five day vacation is. Yeah. Serious. Maybe he could slow it down though, you know, maybe you could pump the brakes a little bit.
Patrick
I could pump the brakes, yeah. Yeah.
Brooke
See?
Advertiser 1
Wow.
Alexis
Dude, you're never playing hard to get, bro. I'm sorry.
Lisa
But yeah. I'm skeptical if he's capable of that by.
Advertiser 1
If he's able to dial it back. Pull back the reins on the love and just do like one dinner date with him. No vacation. Would you be up for meeting Patrick one more time?
Patrick
Lisa, before you say anything, I just. That day you left me on the bus and when you said you could never make me happy, I cried when you got off the bus. And I don't normally, I'm not a big crier, especially in public, and it hit me.
Advertiser 1
Not sure that's usually a romantic selling point, but yeah.
Brooke
Yeah.
Advertiser 1
Sounds like your second date is definitely gonna be casual then.
Lisa
I mean, this seems like a lot of pressure. This. I. I don't know about this.
Brooke
Yeah, but listen, sometimes opposites attract. He is hopeless romantic. And you are more like Alexis. You know, I think she's gonna wake up in bed with a ring on her finger. Yeah.
Advertiser 1
It's up to you though. Lisa. We're not trying to pressure you. We're not trying to like, force you to do anything you don't want to do. We just think that love is the most important thing in the entire world and what the whole purpose that we're on earth. With that being said, would you give him one more chance?
Lisa
I am open to it. It's just I need some confirmation that it'll be dialed back like 95.
Patrick
I've already dialed it back. Oh, already down.
Alexis
I feel it right now. It's totally dialed back.
Advertiser 1
I'm not sure. I'm sure he likes you anymore. Honestly.
Alexis
Yeah, honestly, he did he hang up?
Lisa
Yeah.
Patrick
Why don't we just talk on the phone for a while and see where things go from there.
Brooke
Hey, that's reasonable.
Alexis
That's nice and slow.
Patrick
We could start there. That's.
Lisa
Yes, let's start there.
Advertiser 1
True love. See, Lisa, you were wrong. You can make him happy.
Patrick
Hey, definitely. She just made me happy with the phone call for sure.
Lisa
Okay.
Brooke
This is not happening.
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Man, that was a missed opportunity on my part. I apologize to everyone.
Brooke
What did you.
Advertiser 1
Yeah, because she said that she agreed to a phone call. Yeah, why didn't we hang up and call her back right there? Could have just knocked it out while we were on the radio. Maybe got some dirty time talking.
Brooke
I didn't need to hear any more of that. I have a feeling that she might not answer the phone.
Alexis
Yeah, we should try to get him for an awkward Tuesday.
Advertiser 1
Something, I guess. You know. We're gonna let them work it out on their own because they agreed to talk off the air, so that's good. Who knows if it's gonna be a true love connection or not? That's gonna be up to them.
Brooke
I would like an update from them. Yeah, if they end up talking for a minute, I'd like to hear where they're at. By the time two months hit, they should have three kids in his eyes at least.
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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Vacation No No"
Episode Information:
In this engaging episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosts Brooke and Alexis delve into an extraordinary listener experience that highlights the do's and don'ts of modern dating. The episode, titled "Vacation No No," explores the unique scenario of taking a first date to an extended vacation and examines why this unconventional approach may not always lead to the desired outcome.
The episode kicks off with listener Patrick sharing his ambitious attempt to secure a second date by inviting his match, Lisa, from a dating app on a five-day vacation. Patrick explains his reasoning behind the grand gesture, hoping to create a memorable experience that would solidify their connection.
Notable Quote:
Patrick recounts how the vacation was initially filled with enjoyable activities, including bike tours and sightseeing. However, the plan took an unexpected turn when Lisa abruptly ended the trip after just a day and a half. She expressed doubt about being able to make Patrick happy, leading to an emotional and confusing breakup on the trip.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke and Alexis dissect the events, discussing the potential pitfalls of such an intense first date. They explore reasons why Lisa might have felt overwhelmed, including the pressure of sharing accommodations and engaging in deep conversations too soon.
Notable Quotes:
Determined to uncover the full story, the hosts decide to reach out to Lisa live on air. This segment aims to provide closure for Patrick and offer listeners a real-time look into conflict resolution in dating.
Notable Exchange:
In a heartfelt conversation, Lisa opens up about the pressures she felt during the vacation. She acknowledges Patrick's earnestness but emphasizes the need to slow down and get to know each other better without the overwhelming pace of a prolonged trip. Both agree to continue communication at a more comfortable level, suggesting phone conversations as a next step.
Notable Quotes:
Brooke and Alexis conclude the episode by reflecting on the importance of pacing in dating. They advise listeners to avoid rushing into significant commitments or intense scenarios too early in a relationship. The hosts emphasize the value of building a connection gradually to ensure mutual comfort and understanding.
Notable Quotes:
"Vacation No No" serves as a poignant reminder of the delicate balance required in the dating world. Through Patrick and Lisa's experience, listeners gain insights into the potential consequences of overextending too quickly and the importance of clear communication. Brooke and Alexis adeptly navigate the discussion, offering both empathy and practical advice to help others navigate their romantic endeavors more successfully.
Key Takeaways:
Whether you're navigating the complexities of modern dating or seeking advice for your romantic journey, this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update provides valuable lessons and relatable stories to guide you along the way.