Second Date Update: Wax On Date Off

Summary

Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update – "Wax On Date Off"

Introduction

In the April 18, 2025 episode titled "Second Date Update: Wax On Date Off" of the Brooke and Jeffrey podcast by iHeartPodcasts, hosts Brooke, Jeff, and Jose delve into the trials and tribulations of modern dating. The episode centers around a listener, Julian, who seeks advice after an unexpected and perplexing first date experience with a woman named Abby. The hosts explore the nuances of dating dynamics, miscommunication, and the importance of clarity in romantic engagements.

Story Overview: Julian’s Unexpected Date

The episode kicks off with Julian sharing his story:

Julian [02:16]: "I was on a work break, grabbed some coffee downstairs, and the barista offered to give me my drink for free."

Brooke and Jeff engage with Julian, highlighting the rarity of meeting someone organically rather than through dating apps:

Brooke [02:49]: "Oh, whoa. You are, like, you're a rare man on this segment."

Julian recounts how the interaction with Abby unfolded:

Julian [03:27]: "I looked behind me, saw Abby, a really cute girl, and decided to buy her a drink. She responded positively, and we chatted outside for about 10 minutes. It felt great, but since then, I’ve only received her voicemail and haven't heard back despite texting."

Hosts’ Discussion: Analyzing the Situation

Brooke and Jeff dissect the scenario, questioning whether the brief interaction truly constituted a date:

Jeff [04:11]: "You don't need drinking and casual sex for it to be a date, Brooke."

Brooke [05:00]: "Did you, like, parlay that into we should watch a game together sometime or anything like that?"

The conversation highlights the ambiguity that can arise from short, seemingly meaningful interactions. The hosts ponder over the signs Julian and Abby exhibited during their meeting—eye contact, smiles, and engaging conversation—and why these did not translate into subsequent communication.

The Live Call: Unveiling the Misunderstanding

In a pivotal moment, Jeff takes to the phone to directly contact Abby:

Jeff [09:12]: "Hey, is this Abby?"

As the live conversation unfolds, it becomes evident that Abby had misinterpreted Julian’s profession:

Abby [12:52]: "He was wearing scrubs... I figured he was a doctor or nurse."

Julian interjects humorously upon realizing the misunderstanding:

Julian [13:59]: "Being a wax technician is as legitimate as being a doctor."

This revelation shifts the narrative, revealing that Abby’s perception of Julian’s career influenced her interest. The hosts and Abby navigate the conversation with a mix of humor and clarification, addressing the unintended confusion:

Abby [15:48]: "I felt a little misled. Maybe if he was in that..."

Julian [15:53]: "Honestly, grow up."

Resolution: Clearing the Air

The episode concludes with understanding and light-hearted banter. Abby clarifies that her hesitance was due to the unexpected revelation of Julian’s actual profession, not a dismissal of his skills:

Abby [15:29]: "I experienced a disconnect because I thought he was in healthcare, but he’s a wax technician."

Julian expresses his pride in his work, and the hosts mediate the conversation towards closure:

Julian [16:25]: "I make people's lives better. There are men who come to our practice as well. I'm a professional."

Brooke [16:37]: "We didn't mean to insult your profession. It was just a matter of initial impressions."

Host Insights and Final Thoughts

Throughout the episode, Brooke and Jeff emphasize the importance of clear communication and managing expectations in dating scenarios. They highlight how initial impressions, especially regarding one’s profession, can significantly impact romantic interests. The hosts also inject humor to keep the conversation engaging, ensuring listeners are both entertained and enlightened.

Jeff [07:31]: "People can have a romantic connection just talking to each other. How is that possible?"

Brooke [16:00]: "Exactly. I agree with him on that piece."

Conclusion

"Wax On Date Off" offers a candid exploration of the complexities inherent in modern dating. Through Julian and Abby’s experience, Brooke and Jeffrey illuminate the challenges of navigating first impressions and the potential pitfalls of assumptions. The episode serves as a humorous yet insightful guide for listeners grappling with similar dating dilemmas, underscoring the significance of authenticity and clear communication in fostering meaningful connections.

Notable Quotes

• Brooke [01:27]: "Yeah, okay, cuz you didn't think it was a date."
• Julian [04:50]: "We had a great conversation. I’m a big hockey fan and she was interested in that."
• Abby [12:09]: "I felt a little misled."
• Julian [13:59]: "Being a wax technician is as legitimate as being a doctor."
• Brooke [16:03]: "It's just like, if you see it every day, it's not like he's looking at it in a sexual way."

Timestamps for Key Moments

• Julian’s Story Begins: [02:16]
• Discussion on Whether It Was a Date: [04:11]
• Live Call to Abby: [09:12]
• Revelation of Julian’s Profession: [12:52]
• Resolution and Final Thoughts: [15:29]

Conclusion

This episode of Brooke and Jeffrey masterfully blends humor with real-life dating challenges, offering listeners both entertainment and valuable insights into the intricacies of forming and sustaining romantic relationships.

Transcript

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[Jeff]

Second date update. You ever been just casually hanging out with someone when suddenly they start to give you a vibe and you think, wait a second, do they think that this is a date?

[Brooke]

Oh, oh, you're not excited about it? I was excited.

[Jeff]

It was just like unexpectedly.

[Brooke]

Yeah, okay, cuz you didn't think it was a date.

[Jeff]

Cuz it happens to me all the time. I'm just doing my thing in studio. And then Brooke will slide her scarf blanket to the side and show me a little extra shoulder, lower her glasses down her nose and I'm like, hold up. Does Brooke think that this is a date?

[Brooke]

I definitely do not.

[Jeff]

Excuse me? Because you're married first of all. Plus I'm young enough to be your son, so that's not gonna happen if.

[Brooke]

I slide my glasses down just cause my face got a little sweet sweaty. That's all.

[Jose]

And they're really happy.

[Jeff]

I understand I make you hot in all sorts of ways. But you need to get over it because one of our listeners found himself in an unexpected romantic situation and he's asking us for help today. His name is Julian. Julian, welcome to the show, man.

[Julian]

Hey, how's it going?

[Brooke]

You're lucky to have the expert in Jeffrey on with you.

[Jeff]

Julian, you don't think this is a date now do you? Because I tend to have that effect on people.

[Jose]

Brooke is Showing a lot of cold shoulders. She's got a lot of shoulder freeze, Julian.

[Brooke]

I'm sorry.

[Jeff]

Yeah, let's focus not on each other, and let's focus on the lady you want us to call today. Who's she?

[Julian]

So her name's Abby, and the date that you're talking about was unexpected. You know, it was. It actually happened, like, in real life. It wasn't off of an app like every other day.

[Brooke]

Oh, whoa. You are, like. You're a rare man on this segment.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Where'd you meet Throwback?

[Julian]

Yeah. So I was on a work break, and I went to grab some coffee, you know, downstairs, and there's a coffee shop right across the street, and barista is, like, making my drink, and she offers to give it to me for free.

[Brooke]

Oh.

[Jeff]

Oh, really?

[Jose]

Nice.

[Brooke]

You said, the best day ever. Like, how good do you look that day?

[Julian]

I mean, hey, you know, I guess I remember to shave or something.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Oh. So is Abby the barista?

[Julian]

No. No, no, no, no, she's not.

[Jeff]

So, yeah.

[Julian]

So I was a little surprised, but then I look behind me, and there's this really cute girl, which is Abby behind me. And so I tell the barista, okay, well, I'd like to buy her drink.

[Brooke]

Wow. Just shatter the barista's dreams and hope, because I think she was probably hitting on you, but.

[Jose]

And then you just started to pay it forward.

[Jeff]

That's right. That's right. That's a good move. What did Abby think?

[Julian]

Well, she was like, wow, that's really nice. And so, you know, that opened the door for us to talk. And, you know, I didn't have that much time on my break. Was only, like, 10 minutes or so. But, you know, I asked her, like, hey, do you want to go sit outside and drink our coffees? And she said, yes. So we did, and it was great. I mean, it was short, but it was great.

[Brooke]

Is this your date, though?

[Julian]

Yeah. Why are you asking like that? Like, this was the date. This is the date.

[Brooke]

It was 10 minutes long.

[Jeff]

You don't need drinking and casual sex for it to be a date, Brooke.

[Jose]

And casual sex can last 10 minutes, FYI.

[Brooke]

But this is just a meeting. Like, I feel like we have forgotten what happens in the real world. Really?

[Jeff]

Hold on, Brooke, just calm down. Maybe we should ask. What did you talk about? Was there some flirtation happening? Date vibes there?

[Julian]

We had a great conversation. So, you know, I'm a big hockey fan and she's not, but she was, like, interested in that. And she was like, oh, isn't it just guys, like, punching each other all the time. And I was like, no, no. It's like, there's a lot more finesse to it.

[Jose]

Skate and then punch each other and.

[Jeff]

Hit each other with sticks.

[Jose]

Y.

[Brooke]

Did you, like, parlay that into we should watch a game together sometime or anything like that?

[Julian]

So I did not, but I did parlay it into, hey, I'd like to take you on a real date sometime.

[Brooke]

I'm glad it wasn't, hey, I'd like to punch you in the face.

[Jose]

Like, face off right now.

[Jeff]

Although that would be more up Brooks Alley for a date style, so.

[Jose]

Oh, I'll punch a man whenever he wants.

[Brooke]

It does.

[Jeff]

I mean. I mean, it sounds like you had a good connection, even if it was a short amount of time.

[Julian]

Yeah, exactly. And that's what's so bizarre, because I have texted her a few times since then. I. When I called her, like, I heard her voice on the voicemail, so I know it's, like, her actual number.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Julian]

Like, I don't know if I just totally misread the situation or maybe she has a boyfriend. I don't know, but I'm very confused.

[Brooke]

Did she give you her number after you said, I'd like to take you on a date sometime?

[Julian]

Yes.

[Jose]

So, yeah, that's pretty direct. Yeah.

[Brooke]

Then she knows the intent. Number giving.

[Jeff]

I mean, aside from hockey, did you guys talk about anything else?

[Julian]

Hopefully we talk about Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jose]

No spoilers. I haven't seen Better Call Saul.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I'm a little behind one of the most erotic shows on tv, for sure.

[Jose]

The Lawyer.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. That bald spot gets me every time. Was there a hug or was there a kiss or. Yeah.

[Jose]

What'S the physical vibe? Yeah, like, was she playing with her hair? Was she smiling? Was there a lot of eye contact? Was there no eye contact?

[Julian]

Oh, no, there was a lot of eye contact. She was playing with her hair. She was smiling.

[Jose]

There you go.

[Brooke]

So, wait, I forget. You've reached out, and she hasn't called you back at all. How long is that?

[Julian]

It's been about a week.

[Brooke]

Oh, okay. It hasn't been too long.

[Jeff]

That long.

[Jose]

But she just forgot.

[Brooke]

It wasn't a very good 10 minutes.

[Julian]

I mean, I left her a message, so I don't know how she could forget.

[Brooke]

Oh, it takes me more than a week to check my voicemails. I usually let him sit there for at least three weeks before I actually.

[Julian]

Listen, but I texted.

[Jose]

Okay, well, and you texted.

[Jeff]

Let us try giving her a call. Maybe she'll answer from a number that's completely unrecognizable. We might have better luck there. We're gonna play a song. Who knows? Might as well try. We're gonna play a song, come back, try and get your second date update right after this second date update. Some of us are clearly flustered in studio today after hearing about Julian's first date with Abby, which, to Brook's shock and horror, involved no drinking, no cooking drugs in any back alley, and no fluids exchanged except for the coffee that he bought after they met.

[Brooke]

Sure, I always bring fertilizer to my dates and some cough syrup, but that. I'm not saying that everybody has to do that. It's just strange. Like, it's 10 minutes and they. It's a chance meeting in a coffee shop.

[Jeff]

I know.

[Jose]

It's crazy.

[Jeff]

People can have a romantic connection just talking to each other. How is that possible?

[Brooke]

Crazy that we're considering it a date.

[Jeff]

Anyway, it did give me a good idea for the coffee shop. Fluid exchange.

[Brooke]

No one pump or two?

[Jose]

I like it.

[Brooke]

Interesting crowd. I feel like you're going to be a quad guy.

[Jeff]

Yeah, definitely. Let's crowdfund this thing. But before that, we got to talk to Julian, because it's been a week since that date happened. He's having trouble locking down date number.

[Julian]

Two, I have to say. I mean, I just felt such a strong connection with Abby, you know? I mean, it's like, how often do you have something like this happen? It just felt like a really great connection. So I. I'd love to see her again.

[Brooke]

Yeah. And I think it's a good sign that she gave you her phone number, like I said, after you had mentioned that you want to take her out. Take her out?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Jose]

You said.

[Brooke]

Yeah. And a real number. Yeah, yeah, and a real number. Exactly. Because if she was in a relationship and she just didn't realize that she needed to tell you that, then a fake number would have sufficed.

[Julian]

Right.

[Jeff]

Okay, well, now's the time to get all those answers. We're going to dial her number and double check if it's real, and then ask why she's not calling you back to get another date. All right.

[Julian]

All right. Thanks, Jeff.

[Jose]

Are you going to ask her if she wants to invest in the fluid exchange? Well, let's program.

[Jeff]

I'll get to that, obviously. But obviously we're going to focus on Julian here, so here we go.

[Abby]

Hello?

[Jeff]

Hey, is this Abby?

[Abby]

It is. Yeah.

[Jeff]

Hey, Abby. My name is Jeff from a morning radio show. You may or may not have heard of called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Jeff]

All right. That's a no.

[Brooke]

Okay. That's okay. Hey, Abby.

[Abby]

Are we on air?

[Jeff]

We are. Yes.

[Brooke]

Look at you with terminology.

[Jose]

Yeah, I was gonna say, sound like you belong in here.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Do you have a background in broadcasting?

[Abby]

I did an internship in high school.

[Julian]

Look at you.

[Brooke]

You want to run more experience than Alexis. That's true.

[Jeff]

Yeah, you do have more experience than Alexis. So, Alexis, like, what's on air?

[Brooke]

Me.

[Jeff]

I don't know if you did this at the place where you interned, but we have a segment on our show called Second Date Update.

[Abby]

No, I'm. I'm not familiar with that.

[Jeff]

Okay, well, it's pretty simple. Basically, one of our listeners reaches out to us after they can't get a hold of somebody they went on a date with, and they want to know why. And you are the person we're reaching out to because you met up with a guy named Julian the other day.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Brooke]

I mean, it was a quick meeting.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah, I. I remember. I remember Julian.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Julian told us that he thought you're really cute, thought that things were going well when you were chatting with each other, and he was hoping to see you again. He doesn't really understand why that isn't coming to fruition.

[Abby]

Wait, so he's. He's asking you to find out why I didn't call him?

[Jeff]

Right. Because you're not really responding to him.

[Brooke]

Is there a reason or is it just, you know, it's only been a week. Maybe you haven't had time.

[Abby]

I mean, I saw that he called, and I've been just kind of thinking about it, but, I mean.

[Brooke]

Oh, you're like, on the fence.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah, kind of on the fence about it.

[Jeff]

Okay, can we ask why? Like, what are you on the fence about?

[Abby]

Well, I don't know, like, what he told you about again, it wasn't a date. I mean, like, we met in the line at the coffee shop.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And the barista gave him his coffee for free. And she said, thank you for your work. Thank you for the work that you do. He was wearing scrubs.

[Brooke]

Oh. Oh, okay.

[Jose]

He's like a doctor or a nurse.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I figured he was a doctor, nurse, you know, just do something in healthcare.

[Jeff]

Okay, we didn't know that.

[Brooke]

So that's cool. Like, you wouldn't want to date somebody like that.

[Abby]

No, no. I mean, I did think that was cool. I thought that was definitely worth taking a couple minutes and getting to know him better. You know, when he Was like, hey, let's. You want to go sit outside and have our coffee?

[Jose]

I'm in between brain surgeries. I only have 10 minutes.

[Brooke]

Or in between bedpans. Both very small things, you know, I.

[Jeff]

Mean, for most women, hearing that would be the absolute green light to definitely see them again.

[Jose]

Oh, totally.

[Abby]

Yeah. I mean, it either means he's really successful or he's really good hearted. Like, one of those two is true.

[Jeff]

So where's the disconnect happening?

[Abby]

Well, he talked about his work a little bit, but he was talking about, like, how much he loved his work. And he was saying that sometimes he can get really close to his patients, and he just loves being able to help his patients and make them happy. And I was always thinking, that's really, really cool. I got a great vibe from that.

[Brooke]

So he is in the medical field.

[Jose]

What a good dude.

[Abby]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Right. And then he asked me for my number and said he'd like to take me out. I gave him that. And. And we parted ways, and I was getting in my car, and obviously this guy looked back. I was kind of watching him, and he was walking across the street, going back into his work, and he. He went into one of those waxing salons.

[Brooke]

Oh, like an aesthetic place, like where.

[Abby]

They do, like, Brazilian wax? No, like a Brazilian wax. I didn't even know those guys wore scrubs.

[Brooke]

I'd never even had a male do that for me. I've never walked into a waxing place and seen a dude.

[Jeff]

I didn't know that was a career option, or I definitely wouldn't be here.

[Abby]

Immediately. I thought of him saying, yeah, I get really close to my patients. I don't know. That just made me go, oh, maybe.

[Brooke]

He just went physically. Maybe he just went physically close.

[Jeff]

Abby, thank you for sharing that with us. But there is kind of an awkward part that I need to get to here, and it's best to probably just rip it off real quick and let you know that Julian has actually been on the other line listening this entire time, and he wants to talk to you.

[Julian]

Yeah, I mean, I just think this whole. Hi, Abby. Yeah, this whole conversation, I mean, it's just so. It's so pathetic because, you know, waxing is a legitimate profession.

[Brooke]

Oh, I don't think anyone is saying that it isn't.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah.

[Julian]

Being a doctor, frankly speaking, I mean, I had to go through 14 hours of online webinars to get my certificate.

[Jeff]

Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Did you just say that being a wax technician is as legitimate as being a doctor.

[Julian]

Yeah, I mean, I'm very proud of my work. I make people's lives better. And. And also the whole women thing, I mean, I. There are men who come to our practice as well. You know, I've seen it on. I see naked men as well. You know, I'm a professional.

[Jose]

Good for you.

[Brooke]

I. We didn't mean. I mean, honestly, though, we didn't mean to insult your profession. I think what she's saying is that she just had one impression, and then it was just totally different, so she just needed a minute to kind of reconcile that. A week?

[Julian]

Well, you know, you shouldn't be making assumptions. I mean, it's not like I said that I just got off operating on someone's heart, you know, I mean, you. You can assume based on things, but you know what they say about assumptions.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Yeah. He wasn't operating on hearts. He was shaving a triangle.

[Jose]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jeff]

Which takes a lot of skill.

[Brooke]

Could have been a landing strip. I was gonna say those are.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I mean that, too. You need 13 full hours of studying to get to.

[Julian]

You guys are joking about it, but it's super hard to do. I mean, it's very sensitive. That skin, that area.

[Jeff]

You know, we're not trying to insult anybody's profession here. We just wanted to get the two of you talking. So, Abby, why don't you talk directly to Julian here?

[Abby]

Okay. So I echo what they're saying. Like, it was not. I wasn't intending to insult your profession. I just. I think I felt a little bit misled. And I don't know, I think maybe if you're in that, like, that's the kind of thing that. And I know we didn't have a ton of time, but it's the kind of thing that would be good to know.

[Julian]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, grow up. Like, seriously, grow up.

[Jeff]

Julie.

[Brooke]

I just kind of agree with him on that one.

[Jeff]

What are you talking about?

[Brooke]

I mean, it's just like, if you see it every day, it's not like he's looking at it in a sexual way.

[Julian]

Like the body part.

[Brooke]

Exactly. I agree with him on that. Just on that piece.

[Jose]

Like, I mean, I don't know, I look it up every day, and it is never getting old.

[Brooke]

That is the purpose. The intent is different.

[Jeff]

I heard that Abby was impressed with what he can do. Isn't that right?

[Abby]

Actually, I didn't say impressed. I said I felt a little misled.

[Jeff]

Well, those are mostly the same letters in those. About the same.

[Julian]

Well, you know, I guess I should start putting it on my forehead. Then I wax.

[Brooke]

At least the barista liked you. Oh, yeah.

[Julian]

It's because she's my customer. That's why she gave me the free drink.

[Jose]

That makes so much sense.

[Jeff]

A satisfied customer, clearly.

[Julian]

Yeah. All my customers are five. Five stars.

[Jeff]

Oh, nice.

[Jose]

And he can wax stars.

[Brooke]

I may need to get your number after this.

[Jeff]

Yeah, me too.

[Brooke]

Yeah, me too.

[Jeff]

Let's all get waxed together, guys.

[Brooke]

We can hold hands.

[Jeff]

We'll do a morning show wax and put it up on the Brooke and Jeffrey Instagram.

[Jose]

I think mine's gonna take a lot longer than yours.

[Julian]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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