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Brooke
All right, we got a new episode for you today and it is a textual healing. That's where somebody needs help with a texting situation and well, that's where we step in.
Co-host 1
Yes. And we don't get to do these that often, but I know when we don't.
Brooke
We don't. But they're fun. But first we gotta talk about Costco. Costco guy yesterday. Executive members only.
Co-host 1
Yeah, people are not a fan of executive members only guy. Someone said. Well, actually, is this too bad to read? Maybe not. She was exposed to too much Costco gasoline as a kid. That one. Oh my goodness, what a judgmental snob. She could do much better. Sounds like a guy who thinks he is self made with a silver spoon up his butt. Oh my goodness. And then somebody else who said, I was waiting for Kai to be in on it with the LARPers.
Brooke
LOL. Yeah, I could see that. Maybe that'd be good for him. Yeah, he needs to put his energy somewhere else.
Co-host 1
He needs to get into a little larping.
Brooke
Yeah, a little live action role play might fix Kai. All right, well, we'll see how you feel about today's episode. Right now.
Jeffrey
The modern dating world has so many different levels of relationships that you can be in and it really depends on what you want.
Co-host 3
You're actually right. There's like categories now.
Brooke
Something for everybody out there.
Jeffrey
Yeah, it's kind of nice because there's, you know, a casual companionship where you hang out, but it's not romantic. A situationship where it's romantic but it's not committed. A monogamish where it's committed but not serious.
Brooke
Ish.
Co-host 3
And then I heard that one.
Jeffrey
What word would you describe your situation, Brooke?
Brooke
Mine's just marriage.
Jeffrey
Wow. Don't say it too romantically. Sounds so hyped up.
Brooke
Yeah, it is.
Co-host 1
It's.
Brooke
It's an old word like retro.
Jeffrey
But one of our listeners is caught in a different type of complicated entanglement and she's hoping that we can help uncomplicate it.
Co-host 3
I hope it's not as complicated as Brooks.
Brooke
I know.
Co-host 2
I don't know.
Brooke
Very good luck layers here.
Jeffrey
And she wants to do it in the weirdest way possible. She's asked for our help. You're going to hear it right after this. How many times on this show have listeners asked us to help them break up with their significant others?
Brooke
Oh, no.
Co-host 2
Okay.
Jeffrey
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. That's why we created an entire segment called Brooke breaks you up.
Brooke
Yay.
Co-host 2
Brook segment.
Brooke
I am not in the head space for this today, Jeff. Well, ready?
Jeffrey
Here's the good news, Brooke. Yeah, you don't have to do that today.
Brooke
Oh, good.
Jeffrey
Cuz this couple has already had the breakup talk.
Brooke
Oh, good.
Jeffrey
And I guess the issue is, the problem is the breakup isn't happening fast enough.
Co-host 1
What?
Brooke
Does the breakup happen right after the talk?
Jeffrey
I don't. That's what I think this listener is saying in her email. But before I confuse my co host any further, let's just talk to Maria about it. Maria, welcome to the show.
Maria
Hey, how are you guys?
Brooke
You sound chipper for a lady who may or may not be in a relationship. Very big.
Jeffrey
We've officially confused everybody in the room. Maria, so what's the situation that you're in with this guy that you're dating or. Or not dating? What's going on?
Maria
Okay, so I started dating this guy like 6 months ago. His name is James.
Brooke
James.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
And what's the situation with James?
Maria
Well, I do really like spending time with him. He's a good guy, but it's just. It's not a relationship that I ever kind of saw getting too serious. Like when I picture my future husband, it's just not him.
Brooke
Okay, but why? Why isn't it him?
Maria
I don't know. It's just like they say, like, when you know, you know. But also you know, when you know that it's.
Brooke
That's fair. That's fair. Like, this spark isn't quite right. It has nothing to do with who he is as a person. It's just not okay.
Co-host 3
And it kind of hurts. But at least you're being honest.
Jeffrey
Have you been honest with him? That he's not husband material for you?
Brooke
Oh, we don't need to say it that way.
Co-host 3
Yeah, I don't think she told him.
Brooke
I hope you're not doing the breakup.
Jeffrey
How honest are we being with James?
Maria
I mean, a couple months into us dating, I could kind of tell that he was more into me than I was into him. And so I basically told him, like, hey, I'm having fun with you, but I just don't know if we should continue what's going on between the two of us.
Brooke
And so what was his response to that?
Maria
He honestly, he took it really well. He joked. He was kind of joking back, like, well, if you want to break up with me, you can't do it until your mom's wedding because you already invited me.
Brooke
Oh, okay. Do you mind bringing him to your mom's wedding?
Maria
Honestly, no. Like, we Kind of came up with a solution is that we'll do the wedding, but we're gonna have a scheduled breakup date.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
After your mom's wedding or in the middle of your mom's wedding.
Brooke
That's really cordial. Like, it's kind of cool.
Co-host 3
Yeah.
Jeffrey
So the wedding is coming up or it already happened.
Maria
Yeah, it. So it just happened.
Co-host 3
And congrats to your mom.
Co-host 1
So it's go time. End time.
Maria
So that's the thing, is that we decided that it would be two weeks after the wedding.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Okay, just to wind it down a little bit after, like, the joy of the wedding.
Brooke
Or maybe not to make it look like it was your mom's fault that you're breaking up.
Jeffrey
Oh, fair.
Maria
Yeah, we. I mean, we just didn't want to do it, like, directly after. And honestly, like, we had a great time. We had a good run, and I wasn't stressing about it. But then a funny thing happened while we were at the wedding. James was off eating and talking with family and stuff like that, and I ended up meeting another guy.
Brooke
Oh, at your mom's wedding?
Co-host 1
Wow.
Brooke
Maybe the new stepdad's got some hotties.
Maria
No, it's nothing weird. It's nothing weird. It's not like a stepbrother or anything like that. He's friends with my new stepdad's family. And, you know, it was really cute. It was sweet. Like, we had instant chemistry and he asked me out. Cute. It was. It was really cute. But the only thing is, is he's gonna be leaving town soon, and the only day that he can meet up is the day before our scheduled breakup. Oh.
Brooke
So you just need to change the date of the breakup.
Co-host 3
Wait, if you guys already know you're going to break up if you go on a date with some. That's not cheating. You guys are done. Right.
Jeffrey
But remember, this guy likes her more than she likes him, so it's gonna affect him differently.
Co-host 3
So she's still thinking of his feelings
Brooke
at the end of it. It sounds like you just want to keep it clean.
Maria
Yeah.
Brooke
Right.
Maria
Yeah. Well, I also really appreciated him being so cool about everything and still wanting to go to the wedding and all that. Like, it's already a weird situation. I'm trying to just do it the best way that I can.
Brooke
Can I ask, Are you guys acting like boyfriend and girlfriend right now?
Maria
I mean, well, we're still technically together, so. Yeah.
Jeffrey
Okay, but we're not doing Brooke breaks you up. Instead, what she's requested is some textual healing on our behalf to text her current guy, James, and ask him to push up the date of the breakup.
Maria
Yeah, I just. I want to move it up by one day.
Brooke
Oh. You know, this is the first time I feel like the breakup conversation via text is allowed because you've had so many breakup conversations.
Co-host 3
But what if he has something planned? Like there's a last date meal.
Jeffrey
Like, you know, do you have anything planned like that special?
Maria
The plan for us was to kind of do breakfast together at the same diner where we first met.
Brooke
Oh, full circle.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow.
Co-host 3
You guys are, like, so poetic about this.
Co-host 1
I know. I feel like a text breakup might just be better at this point.
Brooke
So how do we start the conversation?
Jeffrey
Well, what if you be direct with him but also unavailable at the same time?
Brooke
That sounds passive and aggressive.
Co-host 3
How do you do that?
Jeffrey
Yes. That's the perfect sweet spot that we're going for. So if I'm you, I want to put it in their court and let them make the final decision on how to proceed, which is so Jeffrey.
Brooke
No one understands.
Jeffrey
And my life has worked out.
Maria
Hates making a decision.
Jeffrey
My wife worked pretty good, I would say. Listen, I'm so, so sorry, but my plans have changed and I have a conflict on that day. And I'm not going to be able to make our breakfast. Sad emoji. That way you are owning like, it's my fault, but that day doesn't work. And then you see what he wants to do with it.
Co-host 1
He likes you so much. I'm scared he's going to push it a year out.
Brooke
I think it's a terrible text to send, but just for experiment reasons.
Jeffrey
And Brooke loves experimentation, so let's try.
Brooke
There we go.
Maria
Yeah. Okay. I like that. Let me kind of write it out and see.
Jeffrey
Make it sound like you're upset. Like, hi, I'm so, so sorry to do this, but my plans have suddenly changed. I can't make our breakup breakfast.
Brooke
Oh, we're going to call it the breakup breakfast.
Jeffrey
Well, whatever you want to call it.
Co-host 3
Jeez.
Maria
Okay.
Jeffrey
And then put sad emojis. Like, you really were looking forward to that.
Brooke
God, it feels so bad because something else is more important than breaking up.
Co-host 3
I know. That's what I'm like. He's going to ask what could be more important.
Jeffrey
I'm just going off of what we know about this guy and his personality, and he was cool with the whole concept of a breakup date, so.
Co-host 3
Oh, you know what?
Jeffrey
He might not be, as the woman
Co-host 1
doesn't like him, and he'd still go hang out with her for three More months.
Brooke
This guy, I mean, he's.
Jeffrey
Go with the flow.
Brooke
He could be a guy like Jeffrey that likes others to make the decision.
Co-host 3
Yeah, you just tell me how my life.
Co-host 2
Exactly.
Jeffrey
So, Maria, you make the final choice here. What do you want to do? I don't want to be responsible.
Maria
Okay, I'm gonna say hi. I'm so sorry, but my plans have changed this week.
Jeffrey
I had a comment.
Maria
I'm going to be camping on Saturday.
Brooke
Oh, you're just going to make up the lie right now?
Jeffrey
I would be less
Maria
camping just so that way I'm out of town.
Brooke
Yeah, that's right.
Co-host 1
No service.
Jeffrey
Well, you can just say I'm out of town.
Co-host 3
Why can't you make up a plan that you have to go to out of town?
Brooke
Because he would be the date.
Maria
Okay, I'm just gonna say. I'll just say that I'm out of town. I think that's good.
Co-host 3
There you go.
Brooke
Oh, my God. Send the text message and.
Maria
Okay. Okay. I sent it and I put at the end, I put the I can't make our planned breakup breakfast. And I did put the sad emoji.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
There you go.
Brooke
It's like, are you sad because of the breakup or are you sad because you can't make it?
Jeffrey
Well, whatever happens, it's on you 100%. I take no responsibility. Yeah. Then when we come back, we will see if your soon to be ex boyfriend has responded as we continue Textual Healing Breakfast Breakup Edition. And it's coming up right after this.
Brooke
Good music choice.
Jeffrey
Oh, yeah. We're in the middle of Textual Healing with our listener Maria, who's been dating a guy for almost six months now and realized just a little while in that this isn't going to be forever.
Brooke
Yeah. So which is okay. Doesn't mean it's bad. Yeah, not a forever thing.
Jeffrey
Totally. So they made the choice, you know, since her mom was getting remarried, why not extend their relationship just a little bit longer and came up with a breakup date.
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Jeffrey
Which is a specific day on the calendar when they both agreed the relationship would officially end. The only problem is a new love interest has suddenly resurfaced for Maria. So she's come to us wondering how can she text her current guy James to let him know I actually need to move up our breakup date. Without being too specific about why.
Brooke
Without saying, I found another guy who's super hot and I'm really into him and he's leaving for work, so I need to get this date in.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I mean, most guys would take that. So well, but James, we're a little worried about. I. I am curious how he's going to react. Cuz I'm thinking how would I personally feel or how would any of us feel if you're him and you get that message?
Brooke
Well, and even though he's more into you than you are to him, like, he obviously agrees this isn't a forever thing, else he would have fought harder to, you know.
Jeffrey
Sure. So he might be a little hurt or he might be totally cool with it. Maria, has he responded?
Maria
He has.
Jeffrey
Oh my gosh. Okay, what did he say?
Maria
So he texted a picture of Macaulay Cokins shocked to a Malone face.
Brooke
Like shaving cream on or the after shave on.
Jeffrey
And he screams and he's like, okay.
Co-host 2
I can visualize it.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
All right. Is that it?
Maria
No. And then underneath it, he wrote, reactivating my Tinder as we speak with a spark emoji. Okay.
Brooke
Oh, so does that mean you're just single now?
Co-host 3
Maybe that's the text. You need to ask.
Jeffrey
What does this mean?
Co-host 3
We're done now?
Jeffrey
What does that mean to you, Maria?
Maria
That's the thing. So we've had this, like, whole inside joke thing going about how we're going to reactivate our Tinder accounts at the exact same time when we break up.
Jeffrey
So he's.
Co-host 3
He's being funny.
Maria
He's really funny. Like, honestly, like, this is why I kind of wanted to date him in the first place.
Co-host 1
Kind of wanted?
Co-host 3
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Just from the way that you're reacting, it sounds like you don't even want it to really end. Like, deep down. I don't know.
Co-host 3
That kind of reminded her what she liked about him. I don't know.
Co-host 1
She seems excited to go on a date with a new guy, so. I mean.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's true.
Maria
It just sucks because he's being super charming and I hate it.
Co-host 1
You know, breakups are easier if one person is just bad guy.
Brooke
You can't be indecisive now.
Jeffrey
Yeah, because from his text, it sounds like he's cool with it. It's over.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Co-host 3
This is like the best case scenario, right?
Maria
Well, that's the thing, is like, it should be over in a few days, but, like, it shouldn't be over, like, right now.
Jeffrey
Oh, no way. Are you saying now that you feel like maybe you like him and you don't really want it to end?
Co-host 3
Feels like that a little.
Maria
No, like, for me and him, I just. I just need to confirm that it's done officially. You know what I mean?
Jeffrey
I mean, didn't he Already confirm it.
Brooke
Macaulay Culkin just confirmed it? Yeah, like, for sure.
Jeffrey
I mean, I guess he did it through a joke. You want, like, actual written words? We are over.
Maria
I. I mean, I just. I have to, like, figure out how to do this, so I know that there's, like, an actual. Like, that. It's done.
Brooke
You want confirmation.
Co-host 1
Okay.
Brooke
Is there a chance that maybe you're disappointed in him being.
Jeffrey
Not caring, not pushing back more?
Maria
I mean. No, I just. I don't know. I. I already made my decision, so I just have to go through with it.
Jeffrey
Well, look, if. If you want to keep it with the funny light mode that he's been doing, maybe just type in the date when you first started dating with a dash to today's date and then a little tombstone emoji.
Brooke
Yeah. Rip and a thumbs up.
Maria
Oh, my God.
Co-host 3
I think it's good he's being funny. You could be funny.
Jeffrey
What do you think?
Maria
Yeah, I know I do, kind of. Okay, Jeff, you're really funny. Are you single?
Jeffrey
Yeah. Let's focus on the goal that you came to us hoping to do. What do you think about what I said? Sending the dates with the dash and the tombstone emoji.
Maria
Yeah, I like that. I'm gonna send that right now.
Brooke
Okay. So we're just wrapping things up. This is actually, like, I feel like a really good example of how we all should handle breakups.
Co-host 3
Yeah,
Jeffrey
every relationship should have a premeditated breakup. And, Murray, by the way, I forgot to tell you, chime in anytime if you see him texting you back or you see any dots or anything like that.
Brooke
And if you see dots, also, let us know.
Jeffrey
Yeah. Because that's very important.
Maria
Okay. I need to tell you something.
Brooke
What?
Co-host 1
Oh, what?
Maria
I didn't send the two sent text.
Co-host 3
What is that?
Co-host 1
What did you send?
Brooke
The tombstone text. What did you send?
Maria
I didn't. I didn't send anything. I think I'm starting to have feelings for him more than.
Co-host 1
No, these are gonna last a week. You can't do this.
Brooke
You're just stringing him along, and then you're gonna actually hurt his feelings. Like, this is a graceful way to do this.
Maria
It's all happening so fast, and now I'm just, like, second guessing it.
Jeffrey
Okay, Marie, listen. We get that you're confused, but we are on a time limit here on this show, and if you don't know what you want to do, then no goal to reach for.
Maria
No, I know, I know. I didn't mean to put you guys in this position, but I guess I want to enjoy the last three days of them.
Brooke
Okay, I don't know that that's an option.
Jeffrey
Okay, if that's how you feel, then why don't you just send that then?
Brooke
Oh, my work trip got canceled. Looks like I have.
Co-host 1
The campsite is booked.
Jeffrey
It's on fire. I can't go there.
Co-host 3
No, she lied about the. What are you gonna say now?
Maria
I'll just tell him that I'll see if I can move the date or something like that and just that I want to at least have our last couple days together. Oh, boy.
Co-host 3
I would love to hear the response. Do we have time to hear what he.
Jeffrey
I know.
Brooke
This is when you see the power pendulum swing.
Co-host 1
Yeah.
Co-host 3
Now he's like, what are you doing?
Co-host 1
She likes me too much.
Brooke
He's saying, she's so into me.
Maria
Okay, I sent it.
Co-host 3
Oh my God. This time to respond.
Brooke
I think you're going to be heartbroken this weekend.
Jeffrey
So yeah, we've gone from like wanting to move up the breakup date to not having a breakup date to now it's back to the original breakup like nothing ever happened.
Co-host 1
Back to Brooke saying, I wish all relationships handled this way.
Co-host 3
No wonder they can't.
Jeffrey
At least it's not confusing for anybody.
Maria
Oh my God.
Brooke
What?
Jeffrey
Oh my God.
Maria
He sent me a message.
Jeffrey
Oh. What?
Brooke
Why are you laughing?
Co-host 3
This is the most important one of the whole thing.
Maria
He said too late and he sent a screenshot of his Tinder bio. He already restarted it.
Jeffrey
Oh my God.
Co-host 3
He's literally on Tinder right now.
Brooke
Have fun with the new guy, Maria. Yeah, I guess.
Maria
Oh my God. I gotta go. I have to re download my Tinder so I can rematch them.
Co-host 3
No, not one of us can get there first.
Jeffrey
Ladies. You're in a healthy mental state, Maria. I feel like textual healing achieved.
Brooke
Hey, but listen, she did finally let him make the choice. Just like you wanted.
Jeffrey
That's right, you did.
Co-host 3
With the other guy. Now I. I'll.
Jeffrey
Yeah, enjoy trying to rematch with your ex boyfriend on Tinder.
Maria
Oh my God.
Brooke
I feel like she's going to stand outside of his apartment just so that the geotag Swiping Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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It feels good to get good news.
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Jeffrey
Is it harder to rematch with someone on Tinder after you've already been in a non serious, exclusive six month relationship with them?
Co-host 3
I would think emotionally it's harder.
Co-host 1
Could set your, you know, categories really specific.
Geico Gecko
Yeah.
Jeffrey
You know her age.
Co-host 3
It's like between 22 and 24.
Brooke
Yeah. This location, this color hair.
Maria
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Maybe it's just like the normal thing on Tinder where everyone's just going through the rotation till they wind up back where they started.
Co-host 3
You know what, actually I remember being on Tinder and I unmatched with somebody or I match and then I didn't go back on the app. I go, a week later she's back in my options.
Brooke
I'm like what the heck Is it like reaching the end of the Internet?
Jeffrey
Yeah. It just makes me so happy for her. I feel like, like she's right where she wants to be.
Co-host 3
I don't think she knows where she wants to be.
Jeffrey
No.
Co-host 1
This reminds me of every friend going through a breakup ever.
Brooke
That woman needs to be single is what she needs to be. She needs to work on herself a little bit.
Jeffrey
Yes. We have asked Maria to keep us updated on her breakup and her possible rekindling.
Brooke
Do we want to be on you
Co-host 3
by the end Jeff know that I
Brooke
want to be updated on this one.
Jeffrey
There's so many updates.
Co-host 3
Good.
Brooke
Just leaving it vague.
Jeffrey
Plus, with the new guy, who knows what's going to happen? But if you enjoyed that, we've got plenty more textual healings up on our podcast, BrookeandJeffrey. And in the spirit of this call, we want you to subscribe, unsubscribe six months later, and then resubscribe to us all over again.
Co-host 3
And then just watch us.
Brooke
Yeah, that's fun.
Jeffrey
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Paramount plus is now the home of all your BET favorites.
Maria
What?
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Yeah, with all new episodes of Tyler Perry's Divorce.
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Now I will control an empire.
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Podcast: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode Title: Textual Healing: Breakup Breakfast
Date: June 4, 2026
In this witty and dynamic episode, the "Brooke and Jeffrey" team holds a special "Textual Healing" segment, focused on a comedic, tangled breakup situation. Listener Maria seeks help navigating a pre-scheduled breakup with her boyfriend James, which becomes complicated when she wants to move the date—so she can go out with someone new she met at her mother's wedding. The episode is packed with banter about "modern relationships," lighthearted advice, and live texting drama revealing both the complexity and humor in contemporary dating.
On breakup categories:
On the difficulty of clean breakups:
Maria, midst texting indecision:
James’ power move via text:
Brooke’s reaction to modern dating habits:
Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their trademark playful, irreverent style. The tone is casual, with advice doled out in a good-natured, teasing way. There’s never judgment—only empathy and laughter about the sometimes-awkward realities of dating in the digital age.
The group jokes about how everyone needs a “scheduled breakup,” while also highlighting how even the cleanest breakups can get unexpectedly messy emotionally.
Brooke [17:44]: “This is actually, like, I feel like a really good example of how we all should handle breakups.”
Jeffrey [20:24, joking]: “Enjoy trying to rematch with your ex-boyfriend on Tinder.”
Maria’s “breakup breakfast” became more than a quirky dating footnote—it exposed the soft spots, humor, and twists that come with modern relationships. The episode is both a masterclass in gentle, honest communication and a reminder that, in love and breakups, nothing ever goes 100% to plan.
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