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Brooke
Hey, no Sunday scaries when you got a full new podcast to listen to, right? None of that here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and you have found the second Date Update podcast. And today on Sundays, we always like to feature a new segment that we've done during the week. And this one is Textual healing. Yeah, that's where somebody may need our help texting someone for whatever reason and we step in. You know, those texts can be hard, especially when they're with your ex. Which is today.
Unknown
Yes, which is today's.
Brooke
But before we get to it, what's a fun comment for today? Audrey said. So happy I got recommended your podcast. I watched the Conjuring recently and haven't been able to sleep. Irrelevant. But anyways, I play your podcast and it always makes me crack up.
Unknown
Conjuring is crazy though. That's a scary moment.
Brooke
I won't watch it. I stopped watching watching scary movies when I live by myself. Oh, see, I couldn't do it again after that.
Unknown
I never watched scary movies. And the first one that I was like, okay, I'm gonna do it. Let's watch this one.
Brooke
Maybe we should stop talking about it because remember, she got too scary. Oh yeah, sorry. Okay, the Conjuring. Texting an ex. Would you? Scarier? I don't know, it's just scarier. We're about to find out. New episode starts right now.
Alexis
On this show, we're always trying to get people together, whether it's two of our listeners for a second date or hooking up our digital producer Jake with Brooke's mom. Wait, we are constantly trying to make love happen.
Brooke
She's married.
Alexis
Doesn't mean anything.
Brooke
Okay?
Alexis
It's about love, Brooke. And it takes a lot of work doing it every single day.
Brooke
Yeah, for sure.
Alexis
That's why, thank God we have a woman on the phone who wants us to do the exact opposite. Oh, she needs to make it clear no love will happen between her and one dude who's coming over to her place later. Uh oh, and this particular situation is extremely awkward for her. You'll understand why she needs our help when we do some textual healing. Coming up next. Textual healing. Textual. Most people who need help texting are 96 year old grandmas who can't figure out which side of the iPhone is the touch part. But occasionally regular folks need assistance with texting too, when they're in an awkward predicament and they aren't sure what to write.
Brooke
I thought we were gonna be talking to one of our 95 year old listeners.
Unknown
Yeah, well, that'd be.
Alexis
Might be. That's the whole reason we created this segment, Textual Healing, where we assist listeners of all ages, grandmas to newborns, and we help them craft the perfect message. And who's emailed the show today requesting our textual expertise or text parties.
Brooke
Oh, I like that.
Alexis
Her name is Brianna. Brianna, welcome to the show.
Brianna
Hi. Thank you. I appreciate you taking my call.
Brooke
You're welcome, Brianna.
Unknown
And we're going to be taking your text.
Alexis
Yeah, possibly.
Brianna
Oh, I see what you did.
Unknown
Yeah, I'm really smart. We're like really the smartest guy on the show.
Alexis
Totally.
Unknown
So.
Alexis
So, Brianna, tell us about. What's your awkward situation? Why do you need our help?
Brianna
So I just don't know what to say and I'm hoping you guys can help me. So I had a guy over for a date. That's not the problem.
Brooke
That is a good thing to say when you're calling our.
Brianna
Let me just start that right there.
Alexis
Okay.
Brianna
But he found a gold chain in one of my bathroom drawers. It's a long story, but I look at it and I realize it's my ex boyfriend.
Brooke
Oh yeah. Dude, I can't believe your date was snooping in your bathroom drawers.
Brianna
Well, no, I asked him to get something out for me.
Brooke
Oh, okay.
Unknown
Okay, that's good.
Brooke
Is it expensive gold chain? Because I wouldn't get rid of it then either.
Unknown
Yeah, how thick was it? Was it like a thin one or what?
Brianna
Well, it's real gold. Like it's real, but it's something I would have thrown out except that his grandmother gave it to him. Like it's got huge sentimental value too.
Brooke
Oh my gosh. You gotta give it back to him.
Brianna
But. Well, see, now you're kind of getting to exactly my problem because I texted him and I said, hey, I found your chain. Do you want to come grab it? And he sends me back this text and he's like, oh, sure you did. You can just say you want some of this with like one of those little smirky winky emoji things.
Brooke
I see why it's your ex.
Alexis
But in his defense, you did say you want to come over and grab it. That can be interpreted a lot of different ways.
Brooke
Really, Jeff?
Alexis
I'm just saying.
Brianna
Yeah, I did definitely set myself up for that one. And Part of how I set myself up for it was that two months ago, his AirPods were still here. We broke up about three months ago, and after about a month, I founded AirPods. And I texted him to stop by and grab them again. Same kind of thing. And he came over and we ended up hooking up.
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
Oh, okay, so there's precedence for this now.
Brooke
I mean, when is it? Unfortunately, your ex is gonna come over. It's just got bound to happen.
Alexis
Okay. Keep the exes away from Brook's house, because it's just definitely gonna happen.
Brooke
I mean, that's why you got to meet in a place like a parking lot or. Well, a parking lot.
Unknown
That's.
Alexis
Yeah. A parking lot with a gorgeous view.
Brooke
Overlooking the city at sunset.
Brianna
Yeah. So I need to be able to text him in a way that he knows it's like, no, that's not what I want. I just want you to get your stuff.
Brooke
Okay.
Brianna
And he says he's coming over at 6 tonight. Like he's already said straight up that he's coming over.
Brooke
I understand why his response was the grab it thing then. Yeah, it makes sense now. Yeah.
Alexis
Yeah. He's thinking that you're trying to set it up again, but can't you just tell him, like, no, I'm just going to leave it under my doormat. I'll be like, away from home.
Brianna
I could, but I just don't want it to get stolen because like I said, his grandmother gave it to him. So that's why I didn't just put it in the mail.
Brooke
Can I ask?
Brianna
Yeah.
Brooke
Is there any part of you that kind of wants to hook up with him when he comes over?
Brianna
No. Okay.
Brooke
Just checking. Just making sure it's all okay now.
Brianna
I mean, that's a fair question, but, yeah. If you'd been there the last time, you would have understood why. No, I did not want to.
Brooke
What was the last thing that was said between you two?
Brianna
The last thing was that he was going to come over at 6.
Brooke
Okay.
Brianna
And he said, I'm going to give you something of mine too.
Unknown
Oh, my gosh.
Brianna
Yeah, it was kind of gross.
Unknown
You may show up naked.
Alexis
Oh, yeah. Okay. So the wheels are already in motion. You're trying to make it really, really clear to him that nothing is going to happen and there's no lingering feelings there.
Brianna
Right. Like, you're not coming inside. I'm just going to hand it to you at the door. Peace out. Go have a great life.
Unknown
Should be easy to just be able to say hi. I don't Have a lot of time. That's it.
Brooke
I think you need more than that. I think you need to say, I'm short on time. I've got a date at 6. 30. 30?
Alexis
Yeah.
Brooke
I was going one up from that. A fake boyfriend already? You already moved on.
Brianna
But then does that not make me kind of sound like a.
Brooke
Why do you care? It's your ex.
Brianna
You're right.
Brooke
You're right.
Alexis
It sounds like you're trying to make him jealous a little bit.
Brianna
Like that's what I'm afraid of. Yeah.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
Can you say, I poop my pants? You have 30 seconds. I have to change.
Brianna
No, that would probably take care of it.
Brooke
Yeah.
Unknown
Let's hope he doesn't have a rebuttal for. For that.
Alexis
Can you be like, really direct and say, I think you're reading too far into this?
Brianna
I mean, yeah, just be like, don't flatter yourself. Yeah.
Brooke
Or you really want him to leave you alone, you say, well, last time was pretty disappointing, so I don't want to go down that road again. Honestly. That's how my friends text their ex. Wow.
Unknown
I would be like, every time was disappointing.
Brooke
What are you talking about?
Brianna
And that would not be a lie. So. Yeah.
Alexis
Okay, so, yeah, let's. Let's be direct. Sprinkle a little bit of honesty in there too.
Unknown
And okay, so you're bad in bed.
Alexis
Yeah, like, he's probably going to take.
Brooke
It as a joke, though.
Brianna
Yeah. I don't want him to take it as a personal challenge to be like, aha.
Alexis
We probably should sprinkle a little bit of humor in there too, just to lighten the blow. So if you're like, whoa, slow down, Romeo. Last time didn't go so well. You're reading too far into this.
Brianna
Okay. Or I just want to hand it off at the door, like, that's it.
Brooke
How about last time didn't leave me wanting more? We're good.
Brianna
Ooh. Yeah.
Unknown
I still feel like if you put yourself in a short time window. Yeah, I only have two minutes, you know, something like that. Is anybody else got a helper?
Alexis
No.
Brianna
Yeah, I think it might because I didn't say so. He was known as, like, I'm coming over tomorrow at 6. Like, I didn't invite him over.
Alexis
Okay. You can say, I like the one that Brooke said, last time didn't leave me. What did you say?
Brooke
I said, last time didn't leave me wanting more. Yeah, we're good.
Alexis
We're good.
Brianna
Okay.
Brooke
I feel like this is going to be really simple.
Unknown
He should read that and go. Oh, okay. No worries. See you at 6.
Alexis
Did you send it?
Brianna
Yeah.
Alexis
Okay.
Brooke
Okay.
Unknown
This may be the most boring textual impression they want to do.
Brooke
He writes back and he says, k.
Unknown
K. It's like, have a great day. Okay, bye.
Alexis
I mean, that would be the smoothest textual healing we ever did. But I can't believe I'm hoping for boring as we continue. Yeah, but we'll see if he responds to that when we continue textual healing right after this. Hold on for just joining us. We're in the middle of textual healing with our listener, Brianna, who recently found her ex boyfriend's gold chain in her bathroom drawer. And the chain has sentimental value because his grandma gifted it to him, so she can't just toss it out or pawn it on ebay like most of us would.
Brooke
And she's actually a really nice person. Yeah, I mean, she's being much kinder to her ex than I would have ever. Yeah.
Alexis
Oh, what would you do, Brooke? Because you said you would hook up with him.
Brooke
Yeah, well, I mean, she'd steal. That could also be punishment.
Alexis
That's true in your case, sure. But when she texted him to come by and get his chain, the ex assumed that was an invitation to exchange more than just jewelry.
Brooke
Yeah, well, because of what happened last time he stopped by.
Alexis
Cuz last time he forgot his AirPods or something and they ended up hooking up. So he is coming by later today. Which is why Brianna needs help making it clear there will be no. No romance happening. Not tonight, not the next night, not ever.
Unknown
She's willing to give him the gold chain, but just a handoff.
Alexis
Yes. So Brooke came up with the text idea of sending him. Honestly, last time didn't exactly leave me wanting more. We're good. Just get the chain.
Brooke
I still love it.
Unknown
It is setting a boundary though.
Brianna
It is.
Brooke
It's harsh.
Alexis
Now that was the goal.
Brooke
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alexis
Brianna, has your ex responded to that?
Brianna
Yeah, he did. He did.
Alexis
Oh gosh, why don't you have a.
Brooke
Smile in your voice?
Brianna
Yeah, yeah, he wrote, ha ha ha. Well, I'm with someone new now anyway, and she doesn't have any complaints.
Alexis
Oh, that's good.
Unknown
You both win in that sentence.
Brooke
There you go. So he's got somebody else congratulate him.
Unknown
And say I'll see you tonight.
Alexis
Clearly he's trying to make her jealous by pointing out that he has a new girl.
Unknown
It didn't work on us though.
Brooke
But it doesn't work on her because.
Alexis
No, I'm just pointing out like the point of his. The Ex boyfriend is trying to push back on you.
Brooke
Clearly. Does that upset you that he with somebody else?
Brianna
No, I just. Look, I. I just texted him back real quick because he's just acting. He's acting like a child.
Brooke
Well, hold on.
Alexis
But, like, we're supposed to craft one together to text back.
Brooke
He was acting like a child. He was just telling you that he's in a relationship.
Brianna
Well, I think you're right, though. I think he was just trying to make me jealous.
Brooke
Oh. Okay. Pretend it's real. Go.
Unknown
Wait, what?
Brooke
Yeah.
Alexis
What did you write?
Brianna
Oh, no, I just wrote, where did you find her? The animal shelter. Like, what?
Unknown
Sick burn. That's a really funny.
Brianna
Right?
Alexis
Actually, I mean, it is kind of.
Unknown
Funny, but it's not productive.
Brooke
Now we're spiraling. Yeah.
Alexis
We don't want to get, like, into a fight with him.
Unknown
Right?
You kind of escalated this.
Brianna
I didn't escalate it. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't escalate this. He escalated by bringing up some girl.
Alexis
Yeah. And actually, if we really want to point fingers, Brooke is the one who came up with the first text, and it was kind of sassy. And that started off this whole change.
Unknown
New girlfriend escalated. I don't ever get to blame.
Brooke
I think the more we get into this, the more I'm starting to feel that you still have feelings for your ex.
Unknown
You guys need closure.
Alexis
Brook's projecting again.
Brooke
I. I'm just saying.
Brianna
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ms. Brooke, no. I do not want to get back together with him. I do not have feelings for him. That is. That is a big fat no.
Brooke
Okay, I told you we should have said the fake boyfriend thing first. He beat us to it. You're right, Alexis.
Alexis
Now you've already sent the animal shelter comment. Has he responded back?
Brianna
He did. He did.
Unknown
Oh, God, please don't be something bad.
Alexis
What did he say?
Brianna
It's not bad. It's just stupid. It's like, oh, somebody sounds jealous. I can bring her with me, and we can just act like adults when I get my necklace.
Brooke
Ooh.
Unknown
I mean, that's kind of a burn on him because he's, like, playing the mature card, right?
Brooke
Imagine what your guys's fights were like when you were dating.
Alexis
Yeah, who's the petty one? And who's so mature to bring your new girlfriend to your ex girlfriend's apartment and parade her in front of you.
Unknown
A mature burn. Why don't we all just be adults here? I'll bring. It's like a sarcastic.
Brooke
Yeah, totally jealous of his Sarcasm. I love this too much.
Alexis
Okay, so what do we write back to respond to that with?
Brianna
I actually already texted him that.
Brooke
What?
Unknown
Brianna, this is.
Alexis
That's the point of this segment.
Brooke
You called us for help. I don't care anymore. What do you said?
Alexis
What did you say?
Brianna
I just. I just said, please really don't bring her over here. I don't need her over here because I've already had the apartment sprayed for pests.
Brooke
Sprayed for pests? You're being mean about her. Let's get at him.
Alexis
You are really good at burns, though.
Unknown
I gotta give you her.
Brianna
Dude, I'm trying.
Alexis
Well, shoot. No, you.
Brooke
You gotta wait for pests. Like she's some sort of cockroach or something.
Unknown
Just wait for him.
Alexis
Right? Yeah.
Brianna
Oh, trust me. Believe me, he's probably worse than that. If he's dating her, she's probably worse than that.
Brooke
But you were dating him at some point, so doesn't that make you on the same level as her?
Unknown
Yeah, it makes it worse.
Brianna
Yeah. But, you know, he was batting out of his league when he was with me, and now he shouldn't find his own level.
Alexis
He downgraded in pest level. All right.
Brooke
Did he write back?
Alexis
Yeah. Has he written anything?
Brianna
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He said. Oh, you gotta be kidding me. He said, she's not gonna be with me, but I'm gonna bring my overnight bag just in case.
Brooke
What?
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Oh, he's gonna cheat on her now?
Brooke
We went back to him hooking up with you?
Brianna
Yeah.
Brooke
What? He got. He got off track there.
Alexis
He's willing to take whatever he can get. Don't write anything back yet, Brianna. Okay? Don't write anything. We want to help you craft this next text.
Brooke
1. I don't think this girlfriend even exists, to be honest. I think she's made up.
Alexis
That might be true. Okay, it might be true. But at this point, he thinks he's coming over and he's going to stay the night.
Brooke
Yeah, because they're both being sassy back and forth. There's like a tension thing going on.
Unknown
You stop attention. Does anybody know?
Alexis
Brianna, what are your thoughts right now? Like, what are you.
Brianna
Well, like, I'm thinking about it and I'm like, you know what? It's fine. I can handle this. Like, he can just come over and watch a movie or whatever, but that's it.
Unknown
Wait, I told you she wanted to.
Brooke
Hook up with him.
Alexis
Now you're gonna invite him in to watch a movie with you?
Brianna
Yeah, because then that way he can see. It's like, okay, you can go for the movie. And then he's gonna, like, close in and I'm gonna be like, peace out. You need to go.
Brooke
You won't go Rihanna even say that the next morning in the 10 minutes that I've known you, I cannot. That is not in you.
Brianna
I think it'll be fine. I really do. I think if he can just come.
Alexis
Over and he can take your shirt off, come inside, and then nothing will happen. I promise.
Brianna
I know.
Unknown
Watch out. Forget the chain. After all this.
Alexis
Oh, God.
Brianna
So. So that's fine. So I just send him the movie text, tell him come over and.
Alexis
You already sent that?
Brianna
Yeah.
Unknown
We didn't have to do a lot of work today, guys.
Alexis
Are you sure you want our help?
Brianna
You guys look like you don't understand. I've already said, like, I'm not going to do anything. He's going to come over, he's going to watch a movie, and I'm going to kick him the beep out.
Brooke
Oh, yeah, you go, girl. You update us.
Alexis
There's going to be a lot of.
Unknown
Beeping, that's for sure.
Brooke
Yeah, you. You. You set those boundaries strong.
Brianna
Exactly. And so, like, I'll just. I'll just keep you guys posted on what happens.
Brooke
Okay, I think we know what's gonna happen, but if you want to call us and confirm it, that would be great.
Brianna
You know what? You can say that, but trust me, you are going to be shocked and amazed because I am not doing anything. I'm kicking him out.
Brooke
I would be shocked and amazed if that actually happens. Honestly, all of us, I do feel like she's gonna find another item of his in two more months.
Alexis
When you want your second date update with your ex boyfriend. We'll be here.
Unknown
Okay, she has a sock for.
Brianna
You guys are crazy.
Alexis
All right, so we o. So at this point, we started with you wanting to tell your ex boyfriend that there is no chance of any romance. You could just get his chain. Now we're inviting him inside the apartment to watch a movie with his pants.
Brooke
To then kick him out again?
Alexis
Yes.
Brooke
Yeah, that is a good point.
Unknown
Cuddling. You better not kiss.
Alexis
We're in a good place.
Brianna
Well, I'm sorry, but that sounds like a good plan to me.
Alexis
As long as you're happy.
Brooke
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Alexis
Well, I've actually got an update.
Brooke
Oh my God, I'm dying.
Alexis
An update from Briana. She wrote to us.
Brooke
Us.
Alexis
She said, dear Brooke and Jeffrey, thanks again for your help. Although I didn't really need much advice from you. I really appreciate you having me on the show and hearing my story.
Unknown
Okay. She thinks she doesn't need advice, but.
Brooke
She says, I wish she would have listened to us.
Unknown
Yeah, I didn't even care.
Alexis
She says. FYI, he did come over. We watched a movie and nothing happened.
Brooke
What? No way.
Alexis
She does go on and say, but the next morning something did.
Brooke
He stayed the night.
Alexis
After he spent the night. I held off for a very, very long time though. So give a girl some credit.
Brooke
That is impressive.
Alexis
She almost went a full 24 hours.
Brooke
She just needs to lean into it. Just get back together with the guy.
Unknown
Is the she's lying to herself.
Alexis
Yes, she says that was the last time ever. So I hope he enjoyed it. Lol. Love always your fan, Brianna.
Brooke
Oh man, I can't wait for our next update. For three months, when they hooked up.
Unknown
Again, I found a paper clip you left over here.
Alexis
Oh my God. But hey, if you ever need help with texting, with your dating life, with anything, you can always email the show. We'll reach out to that person for you. Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Podcast Summary: Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Episode: Textual Healing: Ex-pectations
Release Date: June 8, 2025
In this episode of Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Brooke and Jeffrey introduce their unique segment titled "Textual Healing." This segment is dedicated to assisting listeners in navigating awkward or challenging texting situations, particularly those involving ex-partners.
Brooke sets the stage by saying:
"It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and you have found the Second Date Update podcast. And today on Sundays, we always like to feature a new segment that we've done during the week. And this one is Textual healing."
(00:41)
The focal point of this episode is Brianna, a listener who finds herself in a complicated situation with her ex-boyfriend. After hosting a new date, Brianna discovers a gold chain in her bathroom drawer—a chain with significant sentimental value as it was a gift from her ex's grandmother.
Brianna explains:
"I had a guy over for a date. That's not the problem. But he found a gold chain in one of my bathroom drawers. It's a long story, but I look at it and I realize it's my ex boyfriend."
(05:55)
Her initial attempt to resolve the situation involves texting her ex to return the chain. However, his response suggests a hidden agenda:
"Oh, sure you did. You can just say you want some of this with like one of those little smirky winky emoji things."
(06:01)
Brooke and Jeffrey dive deep into helping Brianna draft the right message to set clear boundaries and avoid reigniting old flames. They emphasize the importance of being direct, honest, and, when appropriate, incorporating humor to lighten the conversation.
Alexis suggests:
"He's thinking that you're trying to set it up again, but can't you just tell him, like, no, I'm just going to leave it under my doormat. I'll be like, away from home."
(06:46)
Brooke proposes a firm yet concise message:
"Last time didn't leave me wanting more. We're good. Just get the chain."
(10:37)
Brianna follows their advice, sending the crafted message to her ex. The initial response from her ex is dismissive, indicating he's moving on:
"Ha ha ha. Well, I'm with someone new now anyway, and she doesn't have any complaints."
(12:42)
Despite the initial success, Brianna faces further complications as her ex escalates the situation by introducing a new girlfriend into the conversation, attempting to provoke jealousy and manipulate the interaction.
Brianna shares:
"I actually already texted him that. Please really don't bring her over here. I don't need her over here because I've already had the apartment sprayed for pests."
(15:36)
Brooke and Alexis continue to guide her, suggesting maintaining boundaries and not engaging further to avoid rekindling any romantic involvement.
Amid the back-and-forth, Brianna remains resolute in her stance:
"I'm short on time. I've got a date at 6:30."
(08:52)
Ultimately, Brianna decides to handle the situation on her own, confidently stating:
"I'm not going to do anything. He's going to come over, he's going to watch a movie, and I'm going to kick him out."
(17:55)
Towards the end of the episode, Brianna provides an update on her situation. Despite the rocky interaction, she maintains control and asserts her independence, ensuring that no further romantic entanglements occur.
Brianna's Update:
"Dear Brooke and Jeffrey, thanks again for your help. Although I didn't really need much advice from you. I really appreciate you having me on the show and hearing my story."
(20:01)
She confirms that the meeting with her ex went as planned:
"He did come over. We watched a movie and nothing happened."
(20:17)
However, she adds a twist:
"But the next morning something did."
(20:29)
Brooke and Jeffrey express a mix of surprise and amusement, hinting at potential future complications:
"I can't wait for our next update. For three months, when they hooked up."
(21:02)
In this episode, Brooke and Jeffrey effectively guide Brianna through a challenging texting situation with her ex-boyfriend. Through practical advice and supportive dialogue, they empower Brianna to set clear boundaries and maintain her independence. The episode underscores the complexities of post-breakup communications and the importance of asserting one's intentions clearly.
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