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Brooke
Hey, welcome to the Second Day podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey and we've got a new episode. Sexual Healing is just when a listener writes us and has an issue where they just don't know how to respond. You know, they're kind of at a dead end. And so this person needed our help and it is a doozy. We're gonna get to that in just a but. Comments? Yeah, Gil Ferguson said in all caps. OMG. I'm out of episodes. I've been binging for 8 months and I'm finally caught up. What am I supposed to do at work now? Work. Ew.
Janelle
Ew.
Brooke
Well, listen, we always have our full show podcast too. If. Yes, if you're that type of glutton for punishment, you can get a full, full hour of this every day. Or go to our socials at brookeandjeffrey and just stalk us there. Go way back. Keep scrolling. We got you, Gil. We got you. All right, your brand new episode for Gil starts now.
Jeffrey
We all know for how to handle a really bad breakup. Oh, Girls night.
Brooke
Hey boys. Hey, how you doing?
Jeffrey
Yeah, just one evening out with strong poor drinks and weak minded men and you will be forgetting all of your problems. But what do you do if the person who's dumping you is way more important than any dumb boyfriend ever could be?
Brooke
Oh no.
Jeffrey
One of our listeners says that's exactly the position that she in after she got one text from somebody she thought was a really close friend and now she's wondering, how do I even respond to this?
Brooke
Hey boys. Hey, how you doing?
Jacob Goldstein
Brooke?
Jeffrey
No, remember, it's not that kind of.
Brooke
Breakup, but it may still help.
Jeffrey
No, I don't think so. You're going to hear it in a brand new textual healing coming up next. Textual Healing. Textual. Welcome to Textual Healing. All right, the segment where we take your so called complicated life problems and instantly fix them for you with one simple text message. Yes, it is that easy because we help you craft the perfect message to make all of your issues and problems melt away. Like a tasty handful of off brand Xanax. That's what we do for you.
Brooke
Feels too good to be true, Jeff. Like you've forgotten all the other textual healings that we've done.
Jeffrey
But maybe it's the handful of Xanax that I just took. But we do have a woman on the phone right now. I don't know anything about her, not even her name. I just have a note here saying this is a last second, emergency, desperate situation that she's in and she would really like our help with it. So. Hello, listener. Welcome to the show. Who are you?
Janelle
Hi, this is Janelle, and I would really appreciate some help. I. I got a really upset text and it sort of feels like I've lost my best friend. Not quite, but it feels that way to me.
Jeffrey
Oh, my gosh. Okay, Brooke, first of all, you need to calm down a little bit because she said it's like her best friend, not her actual best friend.
Brooke
I have, like, 12 best friends, okay? They are all equally important.
Jeffrey
Okay? There's no time to brag about that stuff. That's not what we're here for.
Brooke
Best friends are integral to a happy life.
Jeffrey
But she said. Is this an actual friend of yours or it's just friend adjacent? What is going on?
Janelle
It is a friend, but it's a professional relationship as well. Basically, I got fired by my hairstylist.
Brooke
Is that the text? Wait, can I ask, is that the text that you just got?
Janelle
Yes, I got it last night. And she basically told me she doesn't want me as a client anymore.
Jeffrey
No. Oh, my God. That's my dream, dude.
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Brooke
Yes, she told me I can't come back.
Jeffrey
What did you do, Janelle?
Brooke
How long did you.
Janelle
I did nothing. And I don't understand because I always tip her really well. I'm sweet to her. We get along. I've been seeing her for about six years.
Brooke
Okay, wait, wait, wait, though. Did you badmouth her behind her back somewhere? Because I'm sorry, Hairstylists are the queen of gossip. They know everything that's happening at all times.
Janelle
This was out of nowhere. We didn't even have an appointment scheduled or anything. But said it said, let me read it to you verbatim. Hi. I've really enjoyed our time together, but I don't think I'd like to take you on as a client any longer, period.
Jeffrey
Did she put an emoji? Like, a tear eye emoji at least?
Janelle
No, nothing. Not even, like, smiley and nothing.
Brooke
Not even the girl hair flipping.
Jeffrey
Hey, this sounds serious.
Janelle
No hair emoji, Nothing. So I have not responded yet because I didn't know how to even take this. I was like, what?
Jose
Well, it sounds like you're feeling upset and, like, let down.
Jeffrey
Yeah, even more like, she sounds devastated to me.
Janelle
I feel like this really hurt my feelings because, again, as I said in the beginning, like, I consider this woman a friend, you know?
Jeffrey
Again, well, I pay my friends, too, so I get that feeling.
Brooke
No, my hair. I've been with my hairstylist for over a decade, and she is a friend of mine.
Jeffrey
Like, it's not a competition. No, I know your friends longer.
Brooke
If I got that text message, I would also, like, I would be beside myself. And it's not just because I couldn't find someone else to cut my hair. Like, that's not it. It's like, it is such an intimate relationship with your hairstylist.
Janelle
Like, you share. I really confided in her.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jacob Goldstein
Okay.
Janelle
And I'm wondering if I should be taking this personally.
Brooke
Oh, you should.
Jeffrey
Well, okay.
Brooke
Hairstylists don't do anything that's not personal.
Jose
And to be honest, I've never heard of him losing a client. Like, it takes forever to build a client list and to have a consistent amount of. So for her to say, I don't want your business is pretty big.
Jeffrey
Yeah. There's got to be some sort of explanation, and she's not providing it. It seems like that's what you're going for here, Janelle. You want to ask her, right? What's the reason?
Janelle
I want to respond in, like, the right way without seeming like I'm flying off the handle, like, oh, you really hurt my feelings. How dare you? What did I do?
Jeffrey
Is going to be my exact thing.
Janelle
I want to, like, craft this in the right way, my response, which is why I haven't responded yet, which is why. Why I'm asking.
Jeffrey
Okay, we. We can tell that you're very clearly emotional about this, but we're gonna do our job and get you some textual healing right now. Help you craft the right message to her to figure out politely how to ask the reason why she's letting you go from her client list. Now. I don't have an idea because I personally don't ever see the same hairstylist ever twice.
Jose
A relationship with women in their hairstyle sometimes is even deeper I can understand than us guys, because we're in and out.
Jeffrey
I would defer to Brooke or possibly Alexis for the first thoughts here.
Brooke
You should. I think you should lead with humor, honestly, because, like, what if. What if you're reading it wrong for some reason? I don't know how you can misconstrue her message, but what if you just said, my roots weren't that bad last appointment, were they? You know, like a haircut joke.
Jeffrey
Yeah, okay.
Janelle
Right. I say, like, I promise I didn't use box color.
Brooke
Yeah, exactly. You're like, girl, I. I swear I didn't cut my own bangs before I saw you.
Janelle
Right.
Jeffrey
That's an option. Or you could also play the pity card and be like, are you sure? Because I had three of my dogs run away this week. Also, my dad says he wants to redivorce my mom.
Janelle
Oh, my gosh.
Brooke
That's also kind of funny. Work on a hairstylist.
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She's like, wait, tell me more.
Jeffrey
Yeah, she's going to want you back in that chair.
Brooke
That's not bad. What if you lean into what Alexis is saying with the gossip and be like, no, you can't yet, because I haven't told you what happened with X. Something you ended up last time talking about.
Janelle
Oh, I like that. Just to intrigue her. I mean, I just wonder if there's something personal going on with her and if that would, like, a little bit of humor might warm her up and.
Brooke
You'Ll be able to tell on her interest level if she wants to know the tea.
Jeffrey
Yeah. You know. So you're worried there's going to be something personal about you. What does the room think? Like, what are the percentage chances that this has something to do with something Janelle did? Or what's the percentage? It's something not related to her going on in just the hairstylist personal life.
Brooke
Janelle. Janelle. 99%.
Janelle
I mean, honestly, I don't like to hear that, but I hate to say it. I think you got that the way she phrased it in her text is, I don't think I'd like to take you on as a client any longer.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jose
Is anyone else optimistic that there's a 1% chance he's intimidated by her? Like, oh, my God, that coat you wore last time was so, so much better dressed than I am.
Jeffrey
Do you think a 1% chance is optimism?
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Jose
I'm optimistic. It's not your fault. And it's something to do with the weather.
Brooke
Hairstylists are always the prettiest girls.
Jeffrey
Yeah.
Brooke
They're not intimidating. They're not intimidating.
Jeffrey
Okay. I appreciate your optimism, Jose.
Jose
Yeah, sorry for it.
Jeffrey
All right, so we're obviously running out of time here. We need to get one text through. What are you going to write to your hairstylist, Janelle?
Janelle
I think I'm gonna go with the little gossip humor thing, because at least that's an attempt to diffuse the situation a little bit with humor and remind.
Brooke
Her that you guys are friends. I mean, it's a reminder that you're more connected than just the client relationship. Perfect.
Jeffrey
So we are officially out of time now. So, Janelle, you're gonna have to go ahead and text that message to her on your own about. Okay, I have gossip for you. You have to hear it, and then we'll come back, and hopefully she's responded to it and you've reeled her back in. When we do more textual healing with the hairstylist who fired you? Coming up right after this. Okay, we're in the middle of textual healing with our listener, Janelle, who had a professional and what she thought was a close friendship with her hairstylist of the past six years. The issue is, last night, she received a random text that said, I'm sorry, but you're fired.
Brooke
Yeah.
Jeffrey
You cannot be my client anymore.
Jose
Why does that hurt like we're not even her client? I feel like we all winced when.
Brooke
He said that she was just canceling an appointment. She is canceling all the appointments. Yes.
Jeffrey
Yes. And there was nothing else with it. No emojis attached, no explanation for why. So Janelle turned around and urgently sent a message to our producer. And here we are trying to help her get an answer and maybe even get her hair stylist back.
Brooke
That's right. I'm gonna win her back. That's what we're gonna do. I'm fully confident.
Jeffrey
I know nobody. We never said that was a possibility in the first part, but I think Jose's relentless optimism came through. Seeped through my clothing, down into my heart.
Brooke
The 1% did that.
Jeffrey
It did. It made me believe so.
Jose
And they make her too happy. And she's like, I can't focus on anything else other than you after you leave.
Jeffrey
I'm losing the optimism now, Jose. Okay, so we don't even know what text message officially sent Janelle. What did you end up writing to your stylist after she said she's letting you go?
Janelle
Here's what I ended up sending her, and she is typing back as we speak.
Jeffrey
Oh, okay.
Brooke
Oh, that means it's gonna be a long one. What did you say?
Janelle
I Said, are you sure? Because I have something juicy to tell you. It's about my mother in law.
Brooke
Mother in law?
Jose
I didn't think this would work, but.
Jeffrey
Again, hearing that, I'm interested.
Brooke
I know everybody wants wants to know the tea, don't they?
Janelle
Yeah, I. I can always come up with some tea. About my mother.
Jose
I was gonna ask that.
Brooke
How do you respond to that in a negative way? You're being fun and playful, even though that could be a really hurtful text message that she said.
Janelle
Okay, okay. Something has come through. Okay, wait here.
Jeffrey
This.
Janelle
What?
Brooke
What?
Janelle
That's exactly the problem. Your mother in law is my client now. My mind is totally blown up.
Brooke
The betrayal. If she chose her.
Janelle
I don't even know how this happened.
Brooke
Do you have a backstabbing mother in law? Is this the problem? Did she go in there and stir some stuff up?
Jeffrey
Oh, like the mother in law came in and started gossiping about you.
Janelle
I told my mother in law that I went to the salon, but I didn't even tell her that I saw this particular silence.
Jeffrey
Oh, my God.
Jose
I guess I still don't understand.
Jeffrey
Clearly there's a tension going on between the three of them of some sort. I mean, I think we're done with the pleasantries. You to like going straight up like, why? Why would you choose her?
Brooke
No, and you need to say, what did my mother in law tell you?
Jacob Goldstein
Yeah.
Jose
Can we assume that that was.
Brooke
Yeah. Clearly their mother in law's mother in law is talking.
Jeffrey
I mean, for any life issue, just assume the mom in law is behind it.
Janelle
Okay, I'm going to write. Why would you choose her over me? I'm typing now.
Jeffrey
Okay.
Janelle
Why would you choose her over me? I've been your client for six years.
Brooke
Yes, angry.
Jeffrey
Angry face emoji.
Jose
No, not angry.
Jeffrey
Yes, angry face. Three fists.
Brooke
No, no, no, no. No emojis.
Jeffrey
No emojis.
Brooke
I want to know what kind of BS that mother in law is spreading.
Jose
Oh, wow.
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Okay.
Jeffrey
No emojis. Just curse words.
Janelle
Okay. I sent it.
Brooke
Okay.
Jeffrey
Oh, wow. I can't imagine what you're feeling right now, Janelle.
Janelle
I sent it and she's writing back already, so she's definitely on it. And we're gonna see what she says.
Brooke
Oh, my God, I am dying.
Janelle
This is freaking me out. Okay, I came through. She writes. Oh, my God.
Brooke
What?
Janelle
I'm sorry. This is awkward, but she told me some interesting things about you that don't line up with my values. So we should just say goodbye.
Brooke
Oh, it's a moral thing.
Jeffrey
Your mother in law Gossiped to your stylist and said that your values are wrong.
Janelle
That is messed up.
Brooke
I've got to throw the mom in law under the bus. That's the only option right now.
Jeffrey
I wonder what she. You.
Brooke
You need to say this. You need to say values. Let's talk about values, because that woman. Okay. And then whatever you need to say after, it's gonna be an audio.
Jeffrey
I like that.
Jacob Goldstein
This is good.
Jeffrey
Brooke, when they go low, you go lower.
Brooke
That's right, Jeff. When it comes to mother in law.
Jeffrey
Let'S undercut mom in law.
Janelle
I'm just gonna write, what values is she saying don't align with yours?
Jeffrey
I would like to know.
Janelle
And I'm gonna add on whatever she said to you. It's a lie.
Brooke
Yes. Yes. Okay, yes. And then say I.
Jeffrey
It doesn't matter.
Brooke
No, you let her know that you literally can't with this woman, that this woman is affecting. I mean, come on. A mother in law is getting you kicked out of your own hairstylist salon.
Janelle
I sent it. I sent it.
Jose
Oh, man. We're in the middle of it and.
Brooke
We got to do a whole nother segment of you texting your mother in law next. I think Brooke is releasing some of her own.
Jacob Goldstein
I know.
Jeffrey
Why I'm so excited for that seg.
Brooke
I hate that stuff.
Janelle
This is so weird. I did not even know my mother in law went there. This is like no good deed. Like, I recommended this salon to my mother in law and this is what I get?
Brooke
Yeah, you better be careful. You're gonna lose your dentist, you're gonna lose your dermatologist.
Janelle
I'm definitely not recommending anywhere to her. I wouldn't recommend a grocery store to that woman.
Jeffrey
I mean. Oh, my God. This is crazy.
Janelle
Oh, my God. She texted back.
Jeffrey
Okay, all right.
Janelle
I'm scared waiting here. This, he says. I don't want to go into it, but in terms of how you treat people in the service industry, eg, no tipping above 15%.
Jacob Goldstein
Your mother.
Jeffrey
Your mother in law said that about you?
Janelle
Yeah, apparently she told my stylist. Who knows? That's how I tip already. I mean, this is not news for years.
Jeffrey
You don't believe in tipping above 15%?
Janelle
15% is pretty standard. And 20% is, like, really, like, really.
Jeffrey
Staying awfully quiet over there. Not defending, not defending. This is weird.
Brooke
I'm just processing.
Jeffrey
Oh, really?
Brooke
No, I. Okay.
Jeffrey
You believe in no tips?
Jose
Okay, 5%.
Jeffrey
Isn't it broke?
Brooke
Okay, okay, listen.
Jeffrey
You pay with coupons, don't you?
Brooke
This is what you're gonna do if this is important to you, just be like, that is not true. I swear I will only tip you 20% from here on out.
Janelle
But it is true. Like I never tip more than 15%, but I always tip.
Jose
And she's known that.
Brooke
Maybe she's been waiting to find an excuse to get rid of you then. I don't know that this is even the mother in law's fault anymore. Do you know what probably happened is that your hair stylist was complaining to your mother in law about how you don't tip. And then the mother in law said, well, that's what she does. She Never tips over 15%.
Janelle
Well, what do I do now? Do I fire my mother in law?
Jose
You can't.
Brooke
You gotta tip her more. You gotta tip more.
Janelle
Yeah, but it's an expensive haircut and I'm sorry too.
Jeffrey
We are out of time for the segment. So Janelle, if you do want to fire your mother in law over text message, you can come back again.
Brooke
But I don't think it was the mother in law's fault.
Jeffrey
Oh, now you're pro mom in law.
Brooke
Why'd you say it all over the place? I maybe went a little too hard too soon. Yeah.
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Jeffrey
Happened there at the end to you. You were 100% on our listeners side the whole way. Rallying the troops to go scorched earth on mother in laws all over the world and then Suddenly whoop total 180. You're pro mom in law.
Brooke
You know it just sometimes I may make choices before I have all the information.
Jeffrey
Yeah, that's not great.
Brooke
And you know it's okay to say I was wrong.
Jeffrey
Sure. That's a rare thing for us to hear.
Brooke
I say it all the time. I mean you can't be this opinionated and not also be okay to say and you're wrong. You can't do both.
Jose
I will say must be deaf when she says that.
Jeffrey
Yeah, I never reaches my ears.
Jose
She says it under her breath at her desk probably.
Brooke
No, I talked to a Alexis about it.
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Brooke
I hear a few times.
Jeffrey
I will say the weirdest part was after the break you went and bragged to our producer about how much you tip to your stylist personally. You did. You went in there and you said it's all under the table. So quote the government can't get our money. I heard it. I was in the room. I pay her mortgage every month.
Brooke
He asked me how much I tiff.
Jose
And I told him you're such a proud okay.
Jeffrey
You did have a smug look on your face though when he gave him the answer.
Jose
But that's okay.
Jeffrey
You can tip as much or as little as you want. We're not here to judge you. And her hairstyles is on salary salary. But we can't always try to help you with the issues going on in your life. Reach out to the show. Find us on email at Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and subscribe to our podcast Brooke and Jeffrey. You need to check out legends.com today. Legends is a free to play social casino and sportsbook with all of the games that you know and love. They even have Plinko and live blackjack and that's L E G E N D. Whether you're a seasoned player or just starting out, their games are designed to entertain and thrill. The best part is you get free coins every day so you can play for free. And redemption to your bank account is instant. It's legit and new players get an exclusive welcome bonus. Join thousands of players on legends with a Z.com today. No purchase necessary. Legends International Void we're prohibited by law. 18/plus terms and conditions apply.
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In this episode of the "Second Date Update" podcast, the team tackles a unique “breakup”—not romantic, but relational and incredibly personal. Listener Janelle reaches out for help after receiving an unexpected, curt text from her longtime hairstylist, effectively ending both their professional and what she thought was also a personal relationship. The hosts guide Janelle through a rollercoaster of emotions, speculation, and live texting drama in a special "Textual Healing" segment.
The conversation is uproarious, candid, and at times a little over the top, balancing empathy for Janelle’s plight with zany commentary and banter. Brooke’s initial all-out support for Janelle gives way to a more nuanced, perhaps resigned, practicality. The entire team provides a supportive but irreverent atmosphere, turning a minor personal crisis into a memorable, communal therapy session.