Textual Healing: License To Bill

Summary

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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update

Episode: Textual Healing: License To Bill
Date: March 12, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This "Textual Healing" segment on Brooke and Jeffrey's Second Date Update features a listener, Christopher, who has fallen fast and hard for a woman named Valeria he met on a dating app. With only six days of messaging, Christopher wants help composing a romantic—but not desperate—invite to fly Valeria out for a visit. The conversation quickly pivots as the hosts become skeptical about Valeria's legitimacy, leading to a collective intervention to save Christopher from a likely online romance scam.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Relationship Milestones and Christopher's Situation

• [03:58] Jeffrey: Reflects on how typical relationship milestones usually unfold over months, but Christopher wants to make a grand gesture after only six days.
  • “What if things moved a lot faster than that? Because one of our listeners wants to make a big, bold move with a woman he’s known for a total of six days.”
• The team expresses skepticism and concern about moving so quickly.

2. Christopher’s Love Story: The Details

• [06:01] Christopher: Meets Valeria on a dating app; she's a Russian-American, lives in Beverly Hills, a Harvard grad, and a dental reconstructive surgeon.
• Hosts question if she's real, pointing out red flags like her credentials and distance.
  • [07:26] Brooke: “Her then being on the dating apps is where it all starts to fall apart for me.”
• Christopher insists he’s only talked online, exchanged many pictures, no video call or real-life meeting.

3. The Plan: Inviting Valeria to Visit

• [09:42] Christopher: Wants to invite Valeria to visit him, aiming to do it in a “cute and romantic, but not weird and desperate” way.
• Hosts suggest disguising the invite as a spontaneous trip for an event (suggesting a "champagne and caviar" event).
  • [10:21] Alexis: “Is there like a dental surgery convention?”
  • [11:00] Brooke (composing the message): “My friend gave me two tickets to a champagne and caviar event, and I immediately thought of you.”
• Christopher sends this message with the group’s encouragement.

4. Response from Valeria and Escalating Red Flags

• [13:55] Jeffrey: Valeria responds positively: “That sounds wonderful. We can have champagne and have special, ‘ice cream time.’”
  • Christopher explains "ice cream" is their mutual code word for intimacy—despite only knowing her six days.
  • [14:42] Christopher: Valeria asks for a $1,000 Venmo transfer for the ticket and promises “I can give you the change.”
    • [14:54] Brooke: "She's gonna take the money, bud."
• The hosts urge Christopher not to send money and advise to offer to buy the ticket directly, asking for her name and birthday.

5. The Metaverse Pitch

• Valeria’s next texts shift to explaining and promoting the Metaverse, claiming she makes passive income there.
  • [16:18] Christopher (reading text): “The Metaverse is a virtual world where people can interact with digital economies… that’s how I make my money… I could teach you.”
  • [16:34] Brooke: “She’s gonna try to hook you into some scheme where you’re gonna invest in something that’s not real, and she’s gonna take your money.”
• The team unanimously identifies this as a classic scam move.

6. Confronting Reality

• [18:19] Jeffrey: Suggests the “woman” might not even be a woman, noting lack of FaceTime or live calls.
• Christopher admits all contact is via photos and voice notes, with no social media presence or video chat.
  • [19:00] Christopher: “I feel weird creeping on her social media, so I haven’t really looked her up or anything like that.”
• Valeria claims her social media was deleted, further raising suspicion.
  • [19:54] Jeffrey (drily): “That’s what they teach you at Harvard.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [08:03] Jeffrey: “Why do I feel like I’m a bank manager right now and some senior citizen has just rolled up to the window being like, ‘I need to take out $80,000’? Trust me, it’s for a good reason.”
• [14:54] Brooke: “She’s gonna take the money, bud.”
• [16:34] Brooke: “She’s gonna try to hook you into some scheme where you’re gonna invest in something that’s not real, and she’s gonna take your money.”
• [19:54] Jeffrey: “That’s what they teach you at Harvard.”
• [20:06] Christopher (dejected): “It just kind of actually breaks my heart. This is the deal right now.”
• [22:56] Alexis: “Us guys, we’re clouded by beauty…I see there’s whole Instagram accounts of AI, there’s thousands of comments, and I’m like, hello gentlemen. This is not a real person.”
• [23:06] Jeffrey (PSA): “If any guys out there are currently talking to a hot Russian dentist from Harvard named Valeria, be careful, because she is trying to make you rich on the metaverse.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:58] – Discussion of relationship milestones and Christopher’s accelerated romance
• [06:01] – Christopher explains his “love at first type” with Valeria
• [09:42] – Christopher reveals plan to fly Valeria out, hosts suggest how to text
• [11:00] – Hosts compose the “champagne event” invitation text
• [13:55] – Valeria’s first response, “special ice cream time,” and $1,000 Venmo ask
• [16:18] – Metaverse investment pitch and group’s scam diagnosis
• [18:19] – Hosts question Valeria’s identity, Christopher admits lack of real interaction
• [19:54] – Valeria claims her social media is deleted, hosts call it out as a textbook scam
• [20:06] – Christopher heartbroken as scam becomes undeniable, hosts offer sympathy and closure
• [22:56] – Alexis and Jeffrey discuss modern online scam dangers, Jeffrey delivers PSA

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Tone and Style

The episode is infused with the hosts’ signature blend of skepticism, playful banter, and genuine concern for their listener’s well-being. While humorous, they stay supportive and practical, offering sound advice about online dating pitfalls. There are moments where light sarcasm underlines serious warnings, as they collectively work to protect Christopher and their audience from similar scams.

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Closing Thoughts

Christopher, though deeply disappointed, is spared financial loss thanks to the team's intervention. The episode ultimately serves as a cautionary tale about online relationships—especially those that move too quickly, refuse video calls, and introduce financial transactions or investment pitches early on.

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For listeners:

• If someone asks for money, offers investment opportunities, and refuses to show proof of real identity early in an online romance—run!
• The hosts recommend sticking to real-world dating and always verifying before trusting romantic promises from afar.

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[23:06] Jeffrey:
“If any guys out there are currently talking to a hot Russian dentist from Harvard named Valeria, be careful, because she is trying to make you rich on the metaverse.”

Transcript

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[Jeffrey]

I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's the Bachelor.

[Brooke]

But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him.

[Jeffrey]

If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

[Brooke]

That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

The dating contract.

[Brooke]

Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you.

[Jeffrey]

This is unlike anything I've ever seen before.

[Brooke]

I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

You know Roald Dahl, he thought of Willy Wonka and the bfg. But did you know he was a spy? In the new podcast, the Secret World of Roald Dahl, I'll tell you that story and much, much more.

[Brooke]

What?

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

You probably won't believe it either.

[Brooke]

Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been. Okay, I don't think that's true.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Listen to the Secret World of Roald Dahlia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brooke]

I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast, the Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? Evidence has been made to fit.

[Jeffrey]

The moment you look at the whole

[Brooke]

picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh, my God. I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Pod or wherever you get your Podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, our fingers are nimble. Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey. You found the Second Day podcast. And we've got a brand new textual healing today. Love textual healings. They're kind of rare, but I'd love them. Yeah, if you have.

[Alexis]

I will say I do have a cramp on my left thumb, so someone may need to step up right now.

[Brooke]

That explains it. That explains it. Okay, well, if you haven't heard this before, it's where someone has a. Just a text issue, right? Like they don't know how to respond to someone or the conversation has gone dead. And then we step in to help them figure out what to say next to keep it going.

[Alexis]

Yeah, it is fun.

[Brooke]

Yeah, so that's you guys help you

[Alexis]

text in while it's happening.

[Brooke]

For sure. For sure. To 78592. And we love the comments always on the podcast. So what do you see, Alexis? Rowdy Deadwood said, I've made the dumb mistake of listening to y' all in the gym. Laugh so hard I dropped my weights. Lots of love from Amsterdam. Hopefully you didn't hit a toe.

[Alexis]

Yeah, you may want to pause it. Maybe listen to the commercials.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you're that guy at the gym now. So rad. All right, here's your brand new episode. Right now,

[Jeffrey]

we talk a lot about big relationship milestones and how long does it usually take to reach them.

[Brooke]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jeffrey]

You know, like the exclusive talk that tends to happen somewhere between months one and three.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Seems right. First, I guess that's too much for Alexa.

[Jeffrey]

Even that I get that expecting like triple that. But the very first, I love you. That might drop between months three and five, usually. And then maybe around the eight month mark. Mark. That's probably safe to say that's when the first fake pregnancy claim to get them to stay with you tends to come out.

[Alexis]

You literally just said my last relationship. Yeah, that was my ex.

[Brooke]

Nobody believes you're pregnant.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, but what if things moved a lot faster than that because one of our listeners wants to make a big, bold move with a woman that he's known for a total of six days.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Whoa.

[Alexis]

Wow.

[Jeffrey]

He's a fast movie. You're gonna hear it. And why he needs our help to pull it off in a brand new text. Sexual healing. Right after this. Textual healing. Textual. If you believe in love at first sight, then online dating may be the thing for you. Because our listener Christopher has been on the dating apps for a couple years now and recently fell for a woman named Valeria.

[Alexis]

Oh, I like that name.

[Jeffrey]

Apparently he feels like it's such a strong connection that he has to do something in the first week of them connecting and has requested some textual healing to help him get that done. So.

[Brooke]

Okay, so wait, they've met in person or they haven't met in person yet?

[Jeffrey]

I don't know. Let's talk to him. Christopher, we're so excited for you. Welcome to the show, ma'. Am.

[Christopher]

Oh, hey, yeah. Thanks for taking my call.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely.

[Brooke]

We love an eager man that might be in love.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Let's hear the story about you and Valeria and how you came to fall in love.

[Alexis]

Valeria?

[Christopher]

Yeah, I met Valeria online.

[Brooke]

Sorry, man.

[Jeffrey]

You met her online?

[Christopher]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we met her online. And she's a Russian American girl, so she's like, really cute. And she lives in Beverly Hills.

[Brooke]

Do you live in Beverly Hills?

[Christopher]

No, no, I. I live here in town.

[Brooke]

Okay, already a knock against you, I think. Yeah, you got that location range far on the app.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, a knock against her. She's the one that lives far away, not him.

[Brooke]

I don't think. Doesn't sound like she's the one pursuing him right now.

[Jeffrey]

Excuse me, bro, this is a man in law, okay? Why are you trying to stomp all over his love story? Okay, keep going. Christopher, what else about Valeria?

[Christopher]

So she went to Harvard. Her current job is she's a dental reconstructive surgeon or dentist. Like, yeah, like you were in an accident and you're like your whole mouth was, like, messed up from, like a bad, like, blunt force trauma. Like, that's what she does.

[Brooke]

That's amazing. I mean, that's like life changing work. Wow.

[Jeffrey]

I know you. You. It sounds like out of the whole online dating pool, you won.

[Alexis]

At least we know no matter what happens, he can mess his own teeth up and get an appointment to see her.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Sure.

[Brooke]

I think Brook's about to say the same thing as I do. Have we checked she's real? Yeah.

[Alexis]

Oh, I didn't think of that yet.

[Jeffrey]

What's unbelievable about a Russian American Harvard graduate who lives in Beverly Hills fixing people's Teeth.

[Brooke]

That feels real. But her then being on the dating apps is where it all starts to fall apart for me.

[Alexis]

She wouldn't need a dating app.

[Jeffrey]

Like, there's some skepticism in the room, Chris. I'm sorry.

[Brooke]

Prove me wrong, please. I hope so.

[Jeffrey]

Have you confirmed.

[Christopher]

Have I confirmed me? I've been talking to her for a while. I mean, we've. I personally think she's the one.

[Brooke]

No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You didn't answer. Have you seen her physically, in person before?

[Christopher]

I mean, I've seen, like, a lot of pictures. I mean, we've been talking for, like, six days, so, I mean, it's all good there.

[Brooke]

How can you feel after six days of only talking that you could be in love?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Why do I feel like I'm a bank manager right now and some senior citizen has just rolled up to the window being like, I need to take out $80,000? Yeah, trust me, it's for a good reason.

[Alexis]

I'm on the phone with somebody who says I owe them in crypto.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Christopher]

Like, guys, she's real. Like I said, I talk to all the time. We already have a lot in common. Like, we both like steak. We both like champagne. Neither of us really drink at all. We don't smoke.

[Brooke]

We'd be like champagne. You said you don't drink, but you like champagne.

[Christopher]

When they do drink, I mean, we drink sometimes. We're just not, like, pounding shots at the bar kind of people.

[Jeffrey]

They just like how the champagne bottle pops open. Like, that's why they like the champagne.

[Alexis]

Classy.

[Jeffrey]

Yes. Yeah.

[Brooke]

This to be real for you. I do. Yeah, I do. It's not that I don't. I.

[Jeffrey]

Then maybe stop talking that way. Well, and just believe it.

[Alexis]

What's the scenario that led us to here is what I want to know. Like, this is textual healing. So she not texting you back, or you need help because she has texted you?

[Christopher]

No, she is texting me. It's actually very consistent. Like, every single morning, I get a good morning text. Every single night, I get a night tax.

[Alexis]

That must make you feel good.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, jealous girl says what?

[Alexis]

Over there?

[Jeffrey]

Alexis.

[Brooke]

No, I didn't say it's bad.

[Alexis]

I'm just saying if I was ready

[Brooke]

to scam, I would do that, too. And I'm sure a dental surgeon in Beverly Hills has a lot of time.

[Alexis]

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Wouldn't they have a lot of appointments?

[Jeffrey]

Well, no, it would make sense that they're so regimented in their appointments, they have to sneak in the text at the morning time and the night time.

[Brooke]

Where's the problem? Because it all sounds great. Where is the problem?

[Jeffrey]

Reached out to us for help with textual healing. What, do you need help texting?

[Christopher]

What I'm trying to do is I want to fly her out here to meet me for, like a date in person.

[Brooke]

Yeah, okay, that's good. I love that.

[Alexis]

Very good.

[Christopher]

Yeah, and I want the invitation to be like, cute and romantic, but not like, weird and desperate.

[Jeffrey]

I see why it's weird because you've only been talking for six days, so how do you make it sound natural and cool and like, sounds like a

[Alexis]

higher echelon kind of lady. She may be used to being flown.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you need to sound like you have so many other things to do. But I guess I could fit this in for you.

[Jeffrey]

That's good.

[Alexis]

Yeah, Like, I can squeeze you in maybe this weekend.

[Jeffrey]

I like that.

[Brooke]

Or maybe there's an event. Like, that's always a good excuse to invite someone too.

[Alexis]

Is there like a dental surgery convention?

[Jeffrey]

You would love it.

[Brooke]

Something more fun. Yeah, maybe like. Oh, my God, you wouldn't believe it. I saw the champagne tasting thing.

[Christopher]

Or that's a good idea. But I don't want it to just be about drinking though either.

[Alexis]

Yeah, you said you don't.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Champagne sipping event makes it sound less.

[Brooke]

Or what if it's like bubbles and brunch? I don't know.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, I love that.

[Brooke]

Just trying to give you some other things.

[Jeffrey]

Let's start putting some words into your phone right now. So, Brooke, how do you pitch the champagne idea?

[Brooke]

It's not your idea. That's the thing. You have to make it like, oh, my God, my mom gave me two. My mom.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, friend. That's better.

[Brooke]

You'll never believe this. My friend gave me two tickets to champagne and caviar event and I immediately thought of you.

[Jeffrey]

I like that.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Would you. Are we going right to the question?

[Jeffrey]

Let's just go for it.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Alexis]

Let her respond and feel it out. Maybe she'll say, oh, that sounds great.

[Jeffrey]

Don't let women think for any, any period of time only bad things will happen.

[Brooke]

And just say, I would love to fly you out for it.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, that's it.

[Alexis]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Champagne glass emoji, smiley emoji, emoj.

[Alexis]

Put the jet in there.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Oh, I like the jet.

[Christopher]

Okay, so should I just state it as like a statement, not a question?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah. It means you're excited. It's not something you've been planning for a week.

[Jeffrey]

You're spontaneous and fun and Valeria Is gonna like that.

[Brooke]

And then I will quickly google search when we're in the song if there's a champagne and caviar.

[Jeffrey]

Or Brooke will throw one impromptu at her house and have you over.

[Alexis]

I did it wrong. It's Chuck E. Cheese. Darn.

[Brooke]

Maybe it got canceled because of some sort of shellfish.

[Jeffrey]

But let' this message. Are you texting it?

[Christopher]

Yeah. But wait. What about the date?

[Alexis]

That'll come naturally.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, it'll come later because she may.

[Alexis]

Yeah, let's just wait to see what her reaction.

[Brooke]

The event is fake. We can pretend it's any weekend.

[Jeffrey]

We don't have to send her the full, like, wedding invite. We just have to gauge her interest in it.

[Christopher]

Okay, then.

[Jeffrey]

And then you see the button down at the bottom? The green button that. That says send? Hit that.

[Christopher]

Okay, hold on.

[Brooke]

Did you find it?

[Christopher]

Sent it.

[Jeffrey]

We did it.

[Alexis]

Good job, dude.

[Jeffrey]

We have successfully sent a text message.

[Brooke]

Okay. I can't imagine how long it takes you to respond to her. Good morning.

[Jeffrey]

But that's what we're here. We're here to help you out. Hopefully she responds when we come back and continue textual healing. Sexy American Russian dentist, Harvard graduate version right after this. We're in the middle of textual healing with our listener, Christopher, who is six into a very, very strong connection with an impressive woman.

[Alexis]

More than impressive. Like the perfect woman.

[Jeffrey]

Absolutely. She's an attractive Russian American dental surgeon named Valeria.

[Alexis]

Oh, man. Just that sentence.

[Jeffrey]

Got a degree from a prestigious Ivy League college, and he doesn't want to scare her off. Since this is so new, wanted to politely find a way to ask her, hey, can I fly you out to my city so we can drink alcohol together and see what happens?

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, that's what you wanted, right?

[Brooke]

Brooke, that's almost the text I had him send.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

I mean, blood like that.

[Brooke]

If I would have gotten that text, I would have been like, sure, let's go.

[Jeffrey]

Already on that plane. So we helped him send kind of a similar message that basically said, my friend got me tickets to the champagne and caviar event. I'd love to take you.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

So that was a few minutes ago. Christopher, has Valeria responded to you?

[Christopher]

She did respond.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Alexis]

We can continue.

[Brooke]

Dude, why do you have a smile on your face when you say that?

[Jeffrey]

I know. What'd she say?

[Alexis]

Please say, she just said, yes, combo's over.

[Christopher]

No, she actually wrote, she said, that sounds wonderful. We can have champagne and have special, quote, ice cream time. End quote.

[Alexis]

Special ice cream?

[Brooke]

Is that a euphemism in Russia?

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. Why is ice cream in quotes?

[Christopher]

Wait a minute. Yeah, that's kind of like our little code word for, like, intimate things.

[Brooke]

Oh, you have. Inside Joe.

[Jeffrey]

You have code words even though you've only communicated over text.

[Christopher]

Yeah, no, that's. That's. Wait, hang on.

[Brooke]

Wait, what do you mean, hang on? Is she writing again?

[Christopher]

She just. She just sent another text.

[Brooke]

What is that?

[Jeffrey]

First test was so good. She's sending multiple.

[Christopher]

Yeah, she wants to come. She said, then mow me the thousand dollars for the ticket, my darling, she said, and I can give you the change.

[Jeffrey]

And she'll give you change.

[Brooke]

Okay, this is how we fix this. Because I don't think he's gonna think that this is a scam.

[Jeffrey]

What? Nothing to fix. She's saying yes to the invitation.

[Alexis]

Brooke to center.

[Brooke]

She's gonna take the money, bud.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, to buy a ticket.

[Brooke]

No. No.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, he's gonna buy the ticket.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's better.

[Alexis]

Usually you should ask her. Okay. I need your name and your birthday so I can book the ticket for you. Yeah, that's the next step.

[Brooke]

Yep. You just say, oh, my gosh. It'll be way easier if I book it. Give me your name and your birthday.

[Christopher]

I just gotta. Wait a sec here because I see the dots moving.

[Brooke]

Dots,

[Jeffrey]

dots, dots, dots.

[Brooke]

I hate it, but so many listeners are gonna be happy.

[Jeffrey]

We're young and cool.

[Alexis]

Somebody came into my stream, told me their kid yells dots, dots, dots, like, every day to them.

[Jeffrey]

Sorry. She's. She's sending you something?

[Christopher]

Yeah, she said. She asked if I've ever heard of the Metaverse.

[Brooke]

What metaverse?

[Jeffrey]

That was the text.

[Brooke]

Like Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse thing or whatever.

[Christopher]

And the dots are going again.

[Alexis]

We should just play that song.

[Christopher]

She's busy, okay?

[Brooke]

Nothing.

[Jeffrey]

We're exhausted over here.

[Brooke]

They don't have a second verse.

[Alexis]

Kind of a. Yeah, one layer joke here. We can't really keep it going.

[Jeffrey]

Did she send you something?

[Christopher]

Yeah. It says the Metaverse is a virtual world where people can interact with digital economies. And that's how I make my money. Although through passive income bidding on virtual land in the metaverse.

[Brooke]

Real estate.

[Alexis]

This is a real thing.

[Brooke]

This is. She's gonna try to hook you into some scheme where you're gonna invest in something that's not real, and she's gonna take your money.

[Jeffrey]

She sounds just like a very inform. Sharing her knowledge with her future boyfriend.

[Brooke]

This is totally what all women reply to, being invited to a champagne day. Okay, I don't think she's real.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

It is.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah. It is a little sketchy, I will admit. Should we maybe reply and be clear with her that the champagne and caviar event isn't happening in the Metaverse? Yeah. It's happening in the real world.

[Alexis]

Yeah. I want to meet you irl.

[Christopher]

Well, I don't want to, like, screw this up. Like, if this is what she's into,

[Brooke]

then I'm like, screw it up?

[Jeffrey]

We're just clarifying.

[Christopher]

Okay, but she said something else. She said it's. But it's a fun and lucrative experience if you understand it. And she said I could teach you, so she'll. She'll teach it to me.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Brooks. Brooks. Probably right here.

[Brooke]

Do you see what's happening? I said it first.

[Jeffrey]

Well, Brooke said it better. Jose, let's go to you. What percent do you think this is a scam that this woman's trying to run on Chris?

[Alexis]

I mean, rich people like to make money. More money. She could be a dentist who's just squeezing out an extra couple grand.

[Jeffrey]

So as far as percentages go, that would be a 10%.

[Alexis]

It's real.

[Brooke]

Okay.

[Jeffrey]

Okay.

[Brooke]

All right. That's more than I would give it.

[Alexis]

I'm just trying to butter him up a little.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, there's a lot of red flags going up right now, Christopher.

[Brooke]

Sorry.

[Christopher]

Yeah, but I'm just, like, confused. Like, why would anybody want to scam me? Like, I don't. What do I have to, like, offer to, like, scam? I mean, I don't understand.

[Alexis]

We're not smart. We're guys. And you have money, so she could easily take a thousand bucks from you and then disappear, and you'd never find her.

[Brooke]

Women get scammed just as easily. And smart people. It doesn't matter.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, have we considered that it's not even a woman?

[Alexis]

That's true. It's probably some guy I thought a bad idea.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, he says he's never FaceTimed her. He's only seen photos of her that she sent.

[Alexis]

Hold on. He said they've talked on the phone, so at least he knows she has a female voice.

[Christopher]

We haven't really talked on the phone. Like, she's left me a voice note, and then, like, I've sent her a voice note.

[Brooke]

Yeah, you could do anything with AI right now.

[Alexis]

I didn't think about AI. I just thought, like, any girl could be on the other end.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, you should just ask right now. Like, hey, can I see your socials? Like, can I get a link? You're going to get your link to, like, the Instagram or your LinkedIn or something?

[Brooke]

Yeah, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Well, at least it's a starting point. I mean, have you seen him? Maybe you've seen it already.

[Christopher]

No, not really. Like, I feel weird creeping on her social media, so I haven't really looked her up or anything like that.

[Brooke]

Christopher, you can't feel weird. This is a person who is trying to scam you out of money.

[Alexis]

And if she doesn't have an Instagram or no social media, then that's kind of a red flag to. Dude.

[Christopher]

Okay, as you guys were talking, I asked to see it, and I just sent it. I said, hey, can I see your social media? So I just sent that out there. I'll see what she said.

[Brooke]

How much you want to bet she's gonna get a link to the metaverse where he can invest

[Alexis]

user142759341 oh, that sounds hot.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, I mean, if she really actually is real and actually cares about you, she should have no issue sending her. Her whatever. Her TikTok or Instagram.

[Brooke]

Those are all gonna be fake too, Jeff.

[Jeffrey]

Well, whatever. At least she's responding to it.

[Christopher]

I could see that she's writing something.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, don't say the word so we don't have to sing it.

[Christopher]

She said, sorry, I deleted mine.

[Jeffrey]

That's what they teach you at Harvard.

[Brooke]

You text her back and you say, listen, I know I'm being scammed. This was a terrible thing to do to someone. Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

I mean, Christopher, are you feeling that way? What Brooke is saying to you, it

[Christopher]

just kind of actually breaks my heart. This is the deal right now.

[Brooke]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

That's sad for you.

[Jeffrey]

It's better to find out now. Thank you. After you've been taken for $1,000 or more.

[Alexis]

Yeah.

[Jeffrey]

You've bought a thousand acres of property in the metaverse.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Yeah.

[Christopher]

Should I ask if, like, she might have, like, a sister or something?

[Brooke]

I think for a little bit, you need to just go out and date in the real world. Okay.

[Christopher]

Yeah. I mean, she was just, like, the total package. She was this beautiful Russian American dentist.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, well, those are a dime a dozen in the real world. I'm sure you'll find one in the metaverse.

[Alexis]

That's everybody.

[Jeffrey]

Yeah, totally.

[Christopher]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

Okay, well, that was pretty heartbreaking. But it is actually a good thing that we did this segment with him and got him to realize what was going on.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's interesting. Like, you just get so invested emotionally that you can't think logically anymore.

[Alexis]

Us guys, we're clouded by beauty. I see. There's whole Instagram accounts of AI there's thousands of comments, and I'm like, hello, gentlemen. This is not a real person.

[Brooke]

Oh, I thought you were like, hello. Why aren't you writing me back?

[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

I thought you were going to say she's taken.

[Jeffrey]

She probably is that, too.

[Alexis]

Or if you Are Valeria text in? Prove you're real.

[Podcast Narrator/Promoter]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

No, not text.

[Christopher]

Call.

[Jeffrey]

And make sure she flies you somewhere first.

[Alexis]

Yeah, she's got dental surgeon money.

[Jeffrey]

Make her earn it. So that's your textual healing? We didn't help him out, but if you need some help with some tech stuff, reach out to the show.

[Alexis]

Yeah, I think we did help him out. We saved him a thousand dollars.

[Brooke]

More than that, probably.

[Jeffrey]

That's right. And go find all of our content. We're up. Wherever you get your podcast, It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jeffrey]

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[Brooke]

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[Jeffrey]

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