Textual Healing: Stolen Phone Stolen Heart

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Episode: Textual Healing: Stolen Phone Stolen Heart
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts

In the episode titled "Textual Healing: Stolen Phone Stolen Heart," Brooke and Jeffrey delve into a compelling listener issue, offering both emotional support and practical advice. This episode showcases their signature blend of empathy, humor, and strategic thinking as they assist Terry, a distressed listener navigating relationship uncertainties.

Introduction to Textual Healing

The episode kicks off with Jeff introducing the segment, emphasizing its purpose: to provide assistance when someone faces a "textual emergency." He mentions, “But today, we are going to give you a textual healing” (05:05). This sets the stage for the main discussion, positioning the hosts as rescuers in the realm of digital communication dilemmas.

Terry’s Dilemma: Suspicion of Infidelity

Terry reaches out in a state of panic, explaining her unsettling experiences at home:

“The last three times that I've come home to meet my boyfriend at my place, he's been there before me. I come in the door, right? And my boyfriend's standing there looking kind of guilty and awkward.”
(05:31)

She suspects that her boyfriend, Alex, might be cheating with her roommate, given their odd behavior each time she arrives. This suspicion leads her to a desperate act—stealing her roommate's phone to send a probing text to Alex, hoping to uncover the truth.

Crafting the Perfect Text: The Textual Healing Process

Brooke, Jeffrey, and Jose collaborate to help Terry compose messages that could potentially reveal Alex's true intentions. They brainstorm various approaches to pressure Alex into admitting any wrongdoing without making direct accusations. For instance, Jeff suggests:

“I'm going to tell her if you don't type a line.”
(14:19)

This strategy aims to create a scenario where Alex feels compelled to respond honestly, thereby shedding light on the situation.

Emotional Turmoil and Host Dynamics

As Terry sends out the crafted messages, the hosts express their own anxieties and support for her. Jeff shares his unease:

“I feel like right now I feel less confident than I did before we started texting him that this guy was cheating on you.”
(16:19)

Brooke adds a touch of humor to lighten the tense atmosphere:

“You don't care how old he gets, by the way. He'll always be young, Jeffrey.”
(03:36)

This balance of seriousness and levity exemplifies the hosts' ability to provide both emotional backing and practical solutions.

The Turning Point: Unveiling the Truth

After a series of strategic text exchanges, Terry receives a crucial response from Alex:

“I have an old digital film camera. He could be talking about my camera.”
(18:02)

This revelation leads to a significant breakthrough. Terry discovers that the supposed evidence of infidelity—a broken camera—was actually a result of Alex and her roommate accidentally damaging it while attempting to create a surprise scrapbook for her. This misunderstanding dispels her fears of cheating, highlighting the dangers of assumptions without concrete evidence.

Jeff reflects on the outcome:

“Wait, what?”
(22:27)
“We're looking through the photos but they were naked.”
(22:28)

However, it becomes clear that the camera was intended for a heartfelt gesture, not deceit. The hosts reassure Terry, emphasizing the importance of clear communication and trust in relationships.

Insights and Takeaways

This episode underscores several pivotal themes:

1. The Power of Communication: Terry's initial suspicions stemmed from misinterpreted behaviors. The hosts demonstrate how open and strategic communication can unravel misunderstandings.

2. Emotional Support: Brooke and Jeffrey provide a safe space for Terry to express her fears, combining empathy with actionable advice.

3. The Pitfalls of Assumptions: The episode highlights the dangers of jumping to conclusions without verifying facts, a common issue exacerbated by the prevalence of digital interactions.

4. Creative Problem-Solving: The "Textual Healing" approach showcases innovative ways to address relationship challenges, blending technology with interpersonal dynamics.

Notable Quotes

• Terry:

  “I think she's going to realize that she's never phone and I don't know how long we have.”
  (04:31)

• Jeff:

  “I don't know if he's smart enough to play this dumb.”
  (16:22)

• Brooke:

  “You've got to update us. Somebody's getting caught doing something wrong.”
  (19:49)

Conclusion

"Textual Healing: Stolen Phone Stolen Heart" is a poignant exploration of trust, communication, and the complexities of modern relationships. Through Terry's journey, Brooke and Jeffrey illustrate the delicate balance between suspicion and understanding, emphasizing the importance of seeking clarity before succumbing to fears. The episode not only entertains but also offers valuable lessons on navigating the intricacies of love and friendship in the digital age.

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Timestamps

• 03:36: Brooke's humorous remark about Jeffrey staying young
• 04:31: Terry's concern about her roommate realizing the situation
• 05:05: Introduction to the "Textual Healing" segment
• 05:31: Terry describing her suspicions about her boyfriend and roommate
• 14:19: Jeff's strategy to pressure Alex into responding
• 16:19: Jeff expressing his uncertainty and anxiety
• 18:02: Terry receiving a pivotal response from Alex
• 22:27: Brooke and Jeff reacting to the revelation about the camera
• 22:28: Jeff questioning the authenticity of the photos shared
• 19:49: Brooke urging Terry to update them if anything changes
• 22:27 and onward: Unveiling the truth about the broken camera and the scrapbook surprise

Transcript

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[Katherine Townsend]

Over the years of making my true crime podcast Hell and Gone, I've learned no town is too small for murder. I'm Katherine Townsend. I've heard from hundreds of people across the country with an unsolved murder in their community.

[Terry]

I was calling about the murder of my husband. The murder is still out there.

[Katherine Townsend]

Each week I investigate a new case. If there is a case we should Hear about, call 678-744-6145. Listen to Helen Gone Murderline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeff]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[Co-host]

There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Jeff]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Co-host]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Jeff]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Brooke]

Looking for your next obsession? Listen to High Key, a new weekly podcast hosted by Ben o', Keefe, Ryan Mitchell and Yvie. Oddly, we got a lot of things to get into. We're gonna gush about the random stuff we can't stop thinking about. I am High Key going to lose my mind over all things Cowboy Carter.

[Jose]

I know, girl.

[Brooke]

The way she about to yank my bank account. Correct. And one thing I really love about this is that she is celebrating her daughters. Oh, I know. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.

[Advertiser]

Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeff]

Hey guys, it's Janae, AKA Cheekies from Cheekies and Chill Podcast. And I'm bringing you an all new mini podcast series called Sincerely Janae. Sure, I'm a singer, author, businesswoman and podcaster, but at the end of the day, I am human. And that's why I'm sharing my ups and downs with you in real time and on the go Listen to Cheekies and chill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't know what the best part of this segment is today. It's either the intro that Jeff sings or. Yeah. The funny stories people give us. I know. Yeah. It's your second date update podcast. But today, we are going to give you a textual healing. I've already seen Jeff's little song in my head. Yeah, I know, I know. It's really good. It's gonna get stuck in your head, I promise. But that's where when someone has maybe a text issue that they don't know how to solve, we jump in to the rescue and help them send the perfect text. So perfect in, you know. Yeah. Rough. Perfect. Yeah, I used air quotes. Yeah. But we always like to start with your comments. Yes. And I saw one from Jasmine who said, I need more. I love to hear you guys. You all together are the best. You all can't leave the program because I want to hear you when I'm in my 80s with a hearing aid. Oh, God. Oh, man. I'll just be 120 years old. It will be fine. We'll be doing all the same thing. Imagine all of us on here with hearing aids.

[Terry]

What a disaster.

[Jeff]

Jeff's gonna need one in, like, two years. How loud he listens to his fun.

[Brooke]

I don't care how old he gets, by the way. He'll always be young, Jeffrey.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah, good point. And by the way, if you really love this podcast and you do actually want more, you're not just saying? I'm not going to say. What's wrong with you? I'm going to say we do a full hour podcast as well. If you're on Spotify, you can hit the More like this button. Or if you're on YouTube or another channel, you can just find Brooke and Jeffrey. And then you get an hour of us. Every day, you get more.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

So if you don't want that, avoid it at all costs. Let's get this textual healing started.

[Jose]

So we got a message from a listener just a few minutes ago that we ranked a code nine emergency.

[Brooke]

Whoa, wait. What are the codes? I never learned the code.

[Jeff]

I don't know, but nine. Nine feels high. Is it out of nine?

[Jose]

It's almost as dire as the code 69 I responded to yesterday under the bridge to Brook's house.

[Terry]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Wow, that one.

[Brooke]

Now that it's open, you're busy.

[Jose]

Well, now we know the real reason it broke in the first place. One of our Listeners says that she's in a weird, complicated situation that's turned her life complet upside down, and she's panicked and felt like she had no other options, which is why just minutes ago, she stole her roommate's cell phone and is now sitting in her car outside their apartment waiting for us to help her.

[Jeff]

That's upside down in a bad way, not like in your way.

[Jose]

Yeah, we're gonna find out what would make her need to steal her friend's phone when we do a textual healing coming up next. Textual healing. Textual. So we got an urgent DM this morning at Brooke and Jeffrey saying this is a textual emergency. Something about a woman who's locked herself in her own car with her roommate's cell phone.

[Jeff]

Wait, what?

[Jose]

I don't know anything other than that. So let's bring her on.

[Katherine Townsend]

Can you breathe?

[Jose]

Terry, welcome to the show.

[Terry]

Hi. Hi. Sorry, I'm just freaking out.

[Jeff]

You're freaking out?

[Jose]

Why? What's going on?

[Terry]

Yeah, I don't know. I've just been upset. The last three times that I've come home to meet my boyfriend at my place, he's been there before me.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Terry]

I come in the door, right? And my boyfriend's standing there looking kind of guilty and awkward. And I don't know, my roommate's there, too, and she's acting weird.

[Jeff]

Okay, slow down, slow down. How long have you been like, who's your boyfriend? I guess is the first question.

[Jose]

Is he a famous boyfriend? That we would know.

[Jeff]

I just mean, if we're going to be talking about him, we need to know what his name is.

[Jose]

Sure. Does your boyfriend have a name?

[Terry]

Yeah, his name's Alex.

[Jose]

Okay, Alex. And so Alex is getting home to your apartment before you, and that's unusual behavior.

[Terry]

It's just the way that he's there and she's there, and they're acting really weird and guilty.

[Jeff]

So you're suspecting something. You chose to lock yourself in the car to go through the phone. How long have you.

[Brooke]

Alexis assumed you did it by accident. You've done that many times.

[Jeff]

Oh, did you guys not think that?

[Jose]

I'm trapped inside of my own car and I don't know how to unlock the door?

[Brooke]

I mean, I have the keys. What do I do next?

[Jeff]

Wait, wait, you guys.

[Jose]

So, okay, so you're. You're suspicious of your boyfriend and your roommate, that something's going on between them?

[Terry]

Yeah, I mean, like, it makes me feel like they're hooking up. And, look, I didn't want to believe it, but then you Know, I started thinking more about it and.

[Jeff]

Okay, so wait, how long have you been dating him?

[Terry]

We've been dating for three years.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's a long time.

[Jose]

So have you confronted either one of them about what you think might be going on? Have you brought it up to your roommate or to your boyfriend? You did?

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah.

[Terry]

That was the first thing I did. I asked my boyfriend about it, and of course he denies it, but he started laughing, like, really nervously, and he said it was ridiculous of me to think that and that I'm the only one for him. You know, yada, yada, yada, yada.

[Jeff]

Is there something that's like, why don't you believe that?

[Terry]

I just have this weird feeling that he's lying.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jose]

Yeah. Guys are not very good at lying. I will say that. We're like, what, roommate? You have a roommate?

[Brooke]

I've never even seen another one since I met you.

[Jose]

I know you have friends.

[Jeff]

I feel like, you know, when you walk in on someone, too, they all, like, scatter really fast. Are any of them half naked when you walk in?

[Terry]

I don't know. I just been going crazy and, you know, I want to know, like, if it really happened, or am I being obsessive for no reason?

[Jeff]

Okay, take a deep breath. I mean, one thing. You've been dating this guy for three years. I mean, I assume he and your roommate are pretty good friends, right?

[Terry]

They're close, I guess, like, through me.

[Jose]

Okay. Okay, so you wanted us to do a textual healing to help you with this. I. What do you want to do here?

[Terry]

Look, I figured that this is the only way to know for sure if something happened. This happened, like, five minutes ago. My roommate was on her phone, put it down to go to the kitchen, and while it was unlocked, and I just grabbed it and ran out to my car. So.

[Jose]

Wait, you stole your roommate's phone?

[Jeff]

Have you read anything Ana yet?

[Terry]

No, I've been a little freaked out. Listen, my idea is that I'm gonna text my boyfriend from her phone pretending to be her.

[Jeff]

Oh, I love it.

[Jose]

Oh, my God, this is conniving.

[Jeff]

I like it. I mean, Alexis is onto something. Do they already have a thread going? Do they have a text thread? Without you?

[Terry]

The last few texts seems a little weird and off again. It's just everything's making me think that there's something going on.

[Jeff]

What does it say?

[Brooke]

They could be deleting the bad text.

[Terry]

It says, I'm coming over, and that was him sending it to her. Like, why would he send that?

[Jeff]

That's not A good sign.

[Jose]

Does she respond to that? Like hard eyes?

[Terry]

She just sent a thumbs up.

[Jose]

That's worse than hard eyes.

[Jeff]

Yeah, she's an old woman.

[Jose]

She's getting the thumbs.

[Jeff]

They have a routine down though.

[Brooke]

Yeah, it's like less communication only emojis.

[Jose]

It is a lot to jump to the conclusion though, just based on the text.

[Brooke]

But they're acting weird too. The physical actions is what makes it weird.

[Jeff]

You know, I would think it's weird not to jump to that conclusion.

[Jose]

Yeah, you know, it's just I'm getting that weird feeling like I just walked into a room of people with half of their clothes on.

[Jeff]

See, I'm getting really excited. Is that bad? That's typical drama.

[Brooke]

Yeah, she's been in this situation. I bet.

[Jose]

Terry, you want our help to come up with a text from your roommate to your boyfriend?

[Terry]

Yeah, and I need you guys to go quick because I think she's going to realize that she's never phone and I don't know how long we have.

[Jose]

Okay, Brooke, you have an idea of an idea? What do you say as the guilty roommate?

[Jeff]

I would say I think she knows. Do you see what I'm saying? Because you're coming from the roommate. I think she knows.

[Jose]

I'm freaking out right now.

[Jeff]

Sure, Sure. I like it. And just see what his response is. Because if it's innocent, he'll be like. Knows what? Right? Like he'll just write back and be like, I don't know what you're talking about. If he's not innocent, he's gonna be like, oh, crap. Yes. Yes.

[Brooke]

Or I'll just send a thumbs down emoji.

[Jose]

All thumbs and fingers. Okay.

[Brooke]

Okay. Emoji.

[Jose]

Maybe put the wide eyes shocked emoji at the end. Like, I think she knows I'm freaking out.

[Terry]

Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds good. Okay.

[Jose]

Okay, go ahead.

[Jeff]

Oh my God. Dude, this sucks. Cuz if he's cheating, it's with your roommate and you're friends with her.

[Jose]

Yeah, and if he's not, now you're like that overly protective girlfriend that like worries about every time that he's alone.

[Jeff]

With somebody and steals other people's fault.

[Terry]

Okay, Okay. I sent it.

[Jeff]

You sent it.

[Jose]

Okay, we have to play a song first, but when we come back, make.

[Brooke]

It a fast song. We don't have a lot of time.

[Jose]

We're gonna speed up the song and then we'll see if your boyfriend responded and if. If he really did cheat on you with your roommate. When we continue textual healing. I hope it's not true. We'll find out right after this. We have a young woman named Terry on the phone with us who reached out while she's locked inside her car. Now, don't worry. She wants to be locked in it. Yes, because she's hiding. She's hiding from her roommate outside of their apartment with her roommate's phone because she believes that there's a chance her boyfriend could be cheating with her roommate.

[Jeff]

I don't like it, and I don't like that her roommate and her boyfriend already had a text thread growing on their own.

[Jose]

Yeah, and the threads was basically like telling her, when I'm coming over. Yeah, not something that you usually text to your girlfriend's roommate. Right now Terry wants our help to text her man on her roommate's phone pretending to be her to see if he's gonna admit to doing anything.

[Jeff]

Oh, my God, did he write bad? I am dying.

[Jose]

Before we get there, we should mention Terry didn't ask to be on Textual Healing this morning, but she did just email us for help in a panic. It just kind of worked out that this segment fit right into place.

[Brooke]

Hey, that's perfect.

[Jeff]

Let's get to the text messages. Jeffrey, I don't care about the legit.

[Jose]

You don't care about the listeners understanding what's going on, who's listening. You just care about the drama.

[Brooke]

Does that mean somebody else thought they were doing Textual Healing today? And we kind of kicked him to the curb.

[Jose]

This was more important. So the first thing.

[Brooke]

Sorry. For the other person who thought they were doing to be on the show.

[Jose]

The first thing that we texted to Terry's boyfriend from her roommate's phone was, oh, my God, I'm freaking out. I think Terry knows Wide eye emoji. And Terry, did your boyfriend respond to that?

[Terry]

Yeah, he responded and said, what are you talking about? Yes.

[Jeff]

Oh, yes. That's so good.

[Brooke]

No, that's bad. That means they talking about. They practiced this so many times. He knows exactly what to say when he's getting caught.

[Jeff]

He's not. He doesn't think he's getting caught. He thinks he's talking to the roommate.

[Brooke]

No, the roommate is saying, we're caught. And he's going.

[Jose]

You could take that sentence either way. Like, he could just be playing into it, or he could actually be panicked. Like, what are you talking about?

[Brooke]

Oh, like, okay, how you say. That's a good point.

[Jeff]

This is what you do back to him. You say, what do you mean, what am I talking about?

[Jose]

And then he's gonna be like, what do you mean, what do you mean. Yeah, just do that back and forth forever.

[Terry]

Like, I feel like it has to be something better than that. I just. I don't know.

[Jeff]

Okay, fine. I tried.

[Brooke]

We can confirm that they have met up. He's said, I'm coming over. So you can say about us meeting behind her back. You know, that's specific, but that's not.

[Jeff]

But what we need to get into is the questions because we need to hear from him. We need him to admit that he is cheating. And if we keep making statements, that never opens the door for him.

[Jose]

That's a good idea. Maybe we should pressure him to admit something by saying, I'm going to tell her today. And that forces him to respond.

[Terry]

I think that's good. I think that's good.

[Brooke]

Like, look, text me back in great detail what we've been doing to tell him.

[Jose]

Well, I mean, yes, but maybe more vague than that. Maybe it's just like, I'm sorry, the pressure is getting to me. I just want to tell her what happened.

[Brooke]

Wow, that's actually really good, Jeff.

[Jeff]

But what is he gonna say back again?

[Jose]

If he's truly innocent, then he still maybe won't know what we're talking about.

[Brooke]

He keeps asking questions. We'll figure it out like that.

[Jeff]

I'm gonna tell her if you don't type a line.

[Terry]

No, I think I like the. The pressure is getting to me. I'm gonna tell her what happened.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's really good. I agree with Jeff.

[Jose]

Okay, Terry, go ahead and send that.

[Terry]

Okay, I'm sending it.

[Jeff]

Oh, my God. Oh, again, if he writes back, like, what are you talking about? Then we believe him. Or then we say, you know what I'm talking about. What should I say? Like what? Let's just see what he says.

[Jose]

Yeah, I don't want to play out the theoretical conversation that might happen every which way.

[Terry]

He responded quickly.

[Jose]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff]

What did he say?

[Terry]

He said, what happened?

[Jeff]

Oh, just say, you know. You know what happened?

[Terry]

It's an all cap, all caps, caps.

[Jose]

And it's right in the middle still of could be like, what happened? Or what happened?

[Brooke]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Terry]

How do we get very good at that?

[Brooke]

Or like, what are you talking about?

[Jeff]

Yeah, or it could be, like, what happened to us? Why are we falling apart as this secret love affair that's happening behind that is really. I think I like, Jeff's too simple.

[Brooke]

Okay, what happened? No, I mean, like, in the universe.

[Jeff]

Okay, so again, that's not a confession. Maybe he's not cheating.

[Brooke]

We should say, look, she knows we've Been meeting up behind her back.

[Jose]

I like that.

[Brooke]

And let it hang because they have.

[Jose]

Joseph playing off of the emotions that his girlfriend is going through. You have to bring that up so that he feels the need to say something.

[Brooke]

Clarify.

[Jeff]

We know his girlfriend already accused him because his girlfriend's on the phone with us and just told us that. So he knows that you're upset.

[Terry]

I mean, I think I feel really guilty about it. And Terry's been upset.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jose]

And I think you go with what Jose said. Like she knows that we've been meeting behind her back.

[Jeff]

Or you.

[Jose]

We've been meeting without her there.

[Terry]

Okay.

[Jose]

Go with that, Terry.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Terry]

All right. I sent it.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Okay. How are you feeling right now?

[Terry]

Really anxious.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

Yeah. Understandable.

[Jeff]

I feel like right now I feel less confident than I did before we started texting him that this guy was cheating on you.

[Terry]

I don't know. I feel nauseous.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I don't know if he's smart enough to play this dumb.

[Jose]

I feel nauseous because we've done hundreds of these. And is this. This is the first time the listener is actually choosing to take Jose's advice in some sort of Twilight Zone?

[Jeff]

It was pretty good advice.

[Jose]

Well, it actually was.

[Brooke]

She's probably gonna end up single.

[Jeff]

Yeah. It's okay. I'm sorry.

[Jose]

That's how it always goes. Terry, has he. Has he written anything back?

[Terry]

Hold on. He's typing.

[Jeff]

Oh, my God.

[Terry]

All right, all right. He said. He said, look, I've taken care of it. She won't know. What. What does that mean?

[Jeff]

Say that. Say what do you mean?

[Brooke]

Or just ask how. How are you going to take care of it? That means he needs to explain.

[Jose]

I like it.

[Jeff]

Yeah, right. Tell me exactly how you did it. I like the exact. This.

[Terry]

What?

[Brooke]

It's like when you don't smoke weed. Cuz I feel clarity. I'm giving good advice, guys.

[Jeff]

Terry, welcome to the world.

[Jose]

I think you. I think you take some form of that. Like what? What did you say, Jose?

[Jeff]

Tell me.

[Brooke]

I forgot already.

[Jeff]

Yeah, that's still the. No, tell me exactly.

[Terry]

Tell me exactly how you did it.

[Brooke]

Perfect.

[Jose]

Because you want your stories to match up.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Jose]

As lying roommate and boyfriend.

[Jeff]

What did they take care of?

[Jose]

I don't know. Something is up.

[Jeff]

Yeah, obviously he didn't take very good care of it because you're on the phone with us thinking that he's cheating. So he took terrible care of it.

[Terry]

He's typing.

[Jose]

Should we do the dots?

[Brooke]

Songs? Dots, dots, dots.

[Jeff]

No, don't join them, dude. It's so dramatic.

[Jose]

Oh, he did?

[Brooke]

Oh, God, the doctor.

[Terry]

I have no idea. I found a guy who fixes old cameras, and I paid him 150 bucks. He says he'll be done by Tuesday. I'll put it back on the shelf, and she'll never know.

[Brooke]

Did they film, like, a racy video together?

[Jeff]

Wait, do you know what he's talking about?

[Terry]

I think he's talking about, I have an old digital film camera. He could be talking about my camera.

[Jose]

Where's your camera?

[Brooke]

Naked pictures on it.

[Jose]

Is your camera in the bedroom, or is it in, like, the living room?

[Terry]

It should be in the living room. No, you know what? Now that I thought about it, my camera hasn't been on the shelf because I was looking for it the other day, but I was in a rush to go somewhere, so I just sort of left it, like, in your room. And I'm wondering if they just broke the camera and were too scared to tell me.

[Jose]

Okay, maybe we just asked that, like, paint out the picture so the camera's gonna be fixed and she'll never know we broke it.

[Jeff]

But he already said that. Well, we're just repeating what he said.

[Jose]

Well, then why are we.

[Jeff]

We need to know, like, and she didn't know we broke it while taking those racy.

[Jose]

Want to know what the pictures on the camera are?

[Jeff]

Well, I mean, are we still doubting? Or now do we believe he's not cheating?

[Jose]

I'm wondering, Terry, how do you feel about it?

[Terry]

I don't know, guys. I. I just. My feelings kind of changing about this. Like, I. I'm feeling like maybe they just broke it and they're feeling bad.

[Brooke]

Yeah, that's very. You know them better than we do. So if your natural gut instinct is that, then that's probably the truth.

[Jeff]

Yeah, we're, like, assuming the worst now.

[Brooke]

You know, we just like drama.

[Jose]

But really, you know that maybe when you do get your camera back. I know. I don't want you to see anything that you don't want to see on there. So you just mail the film over to our radio station, and then we'll look at it for you and rate the pictures and then tell you if anything bad is on there that you don't want to see.

[Jeff]

Jeff will spend a lot of time in the dark room.

[Terry]

Yeah, you guys are the best. I gotta go get my roommate's phone back before she realizes.

[Jose]

Okay.

[Brooke]

Yeah, before you look like.

[Jose]

Delete all the texts that we just sent and that he sent, too.

[Terry]

Okay? Yeah, no, I will.

[Jeff]

Oh.

[Brooke]

Cause she's the Friend's gonna see it.

[Jose]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

This is only gonna be more drama. You better update us. Somebody's getting caught doing something wrong.

[Jose]

Next week, her roommate's gonna email. Like, I think my roommate's been stealing my phone.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Jose]

I want a text from her phone.

[Jeff]

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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[Jose]

So that call happened just a couple days ago?

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Jose]

Obviously it was a little bit unclear what was going on with the camera.

[Jeff]

I still felt like there was a huge possibility of him cheating.

[Jose]

Well, a little while later, we did get an update from Terry. She reach out to us. She said after that phone call, she went back upstairs to her room and confirmed her camera was missing.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jose]

So she just asked her roommate about it and the roommate confessed that her and the boyfriend accidentally broke it. Cuz they were going to make a surprise birthday scrapbook for Terry and they were using. They were trying to take photos and go through the photos and they accidentally broke the camera.

[Brooke]

So that she had a bunch of photos on there too.

[Jeff]

And they're Gen Z. So they're like, what is. What is this stuff? Is it Phil? I don't know how you do that? Do we just pull it out?

[Jose]

So do you? That's the explanation that Terry got. Not sure if she fully believes that or not. But you could probably find the photos up on only fans somewhere and draw your own conclusion.

[Jeff]

Wait, what?

[Brooke]

We're looking through the photos but they were naked.

[Jeff]

What kind of scrapbook is this anyway?

[Jose]

That's pretty exciting.

[Jeff]

Oh, that's good. That's great news. Thanks for the update.

[Jose]

I'm glad we got hear that.

[Brooke]

Me too.

[Jeff]

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