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Brooke and Jeffrey and this is the Second Date podcast. And I don't know if the best part of Textual Healing is the actual help or just the intro song. It's so good. It's my favorite show open that we have Love it so it is Jeff singing Just so you know. It's coming up in just a minute, but first comment. Yeah, Amanda Nichols said, I'm a full time college student majoring in computer science. I never thought I would find myself getting addicted to a random morning radio show the way I have with this one. I've definitely developed a parasocial relationship with these guys and never fail to brighten up my morning commute to class. So happy I found this show. God, I love when our listeners use big words we don't understand. I know I'm gonna have to google that later. I love our paranormal relationship. Parasocial. Oh shoot. Dang it. Okay, let's just get into it. The Textual healing starts now.
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I don't know about you guys, but I've never been caught doing weird stuff at work. You?
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I don't have people.
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I mean, I definitely do it and whoever sees it usually wants to join in. So technically I'm not being caught.
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I mean, you're just not told on, right? Yeah, I see.
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For one of our listeners, she said she was coming home to her apartment the other day and came across her landlord in a very compromising position. And what she decided to do next could be either the smartest or dumbest move of her entire life. She reached out to us, hoping to use the information to her advantage. Wait, so we're gonna try and help her in a textual healing? Okay, coming up next. Textual healing. Textual. You Know you have a clogged toilet, you call a plumber, you have a flat tire, you call aaa.
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Sure.
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If text message that you need to send and you don't want to screw
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it up, who do you call? Jeffrey.
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You call 15 other people and ask their answers and, well, if they all suck, then you can come to us for a little textual healing.
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We got there and one of our
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listeners has gone through her entire friend group, came up with nothing. So now she wants our help. Her name is Cali. Cali, welcome to the show.
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Hi. Thank you so much. Please help.
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I'm glad we're your last resort, Kelly.
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Yeah, I'm glad you're your real friends. Don't answer.
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Yeah, well, tell us about your situation a little bit and how we can help heal you textually.
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Okay. So I'm living in this apartment. It's the best apartment that I've ever lived in. It's like a great location. You know, I have like the most amazing view. The apartment complex has a pool. I know.
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Do they have any availability right now?
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Doesn't sound like we can afford to live there.
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Why do you call Cali?
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That's the thing. So I can't even afford to live here, like barely right now. And I'm afraid they're going to increase my rent in a couple of months when my rent is supposed to be renewed.
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So are we going to negotiate your rent via text message? I think we can do it. I think we could. I can talk anybody down.
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I'm telling you, landlords hate me.
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Your lease is coming up here. How long?
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Yeah, in a couple of months. About two months.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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But low key. I need them to reduce the rent by at least $100 or I'm going to have to move.
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Oh, we're going to get a rent reduction. Does that happen anymore? It does. I'm going to copy exactly what we do today.
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Okay. How are you going to get your rent knocked down?
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The only thought that I have in terms of how I can do this, and I really think I can, is the fact that we have a new property manager and he's super cute and he's about my age, and I just have a feeling like if I them a little bit, massage them a little bit via text message. Okay.
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Are you saying real life?
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You're going to start hitting on your new property manager?
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I like it.
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I don't want to hit on him, but I have a feeling that just like, you know, I want to put a vibe out.
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You want to create a rapport.
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Exactly. I need to create a rapport. I need to, like, get in there and just figure out a way to get Dave the property manager to sign off on a. A rent renewal that is preferably less.
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I was joking about negotiating rent prices. I don't actually know that we're the best people for that.
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I think. I think it's possible.
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Have you texted with Dave yet? Like, have you met him at all?
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We've had one interaction.
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Okay.
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Okay. That's something to work with.
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Yeah. He's scooping a rat, a dead rat, out of the pool.
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You made it sound like this awesome new place, but it's actually run down.
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Is the pool like an above ground, like, tarp that they set up?
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It's just in the city.
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I'm guessing a rat in the pool.
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I know. And I saw what he was doing and just like, was like, ew. And then he kind of, like, laughed and was like, yeah, you know, my job sucks, but hi, how you doing?
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Wow, what a fun interaction.
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But that could almost be blackmail, right? Because she's the only one that saw the rat in the pool. If she told other people. I mean, if we're going to get dirty with this guy and we want to, like, get a rent reduction, I
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don't know if blackmailing your apartment manager is the best way to go.
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Okay, I like where you're headed.
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I agree. I think we could have, like a friendly agreement to, like, keep that between us, you know, but, like, the other option is obviously, like, should I flirt with them? Should I throw them a smile?
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Well, we have to do this over a text message.
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Yes.
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So I'm going to Google tricks to make strangers do stuff for you.
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Okay. I feel over text is the hard part. AI is really going to take over our jobs here.
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This is a 21 and over website. This isn't going to work.
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I was going to say, I don't think.
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Seven ways to make a stranger help you out. Number one says smile.
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That. Can't do that.
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Over tag a smile emoji. So we can start with a smiley emoji. Number two is use their name a few times. Dave.
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Dave. Dave.
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So, yeah, Dave. Hey, Dave. What's up, Dave?
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Well, I mean, you have to start with, hey, Dave. It's Cali from, you know, whatever your apartment number is.
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Remember? I'm. I'm the. The girl that saw you fish the rat out of the pool and shouted, gross.
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We have to wait on that.
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Maybe just be like, I think that's actually perfect.
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Right?
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How you like that?
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You're Gonna use the rest of the rat.
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At least it'll help him put a face to the name.
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I could be like, I'm the blonde who said ew while you were fishing the rat out of the pool.
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Are there other people with other hair colors?
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Well, she said gross to him, and they had a one sentence conversation, so that's good. Number three says use humor.
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Yeah, okay, so maybe.
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Maybe telling a joke, it says, even if it doesn't land, it shows you're trying to be fun and polite.
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I'd hire you to be my cabana boy any day of the week.
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That's a.
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You know, these apartments, we have a pool for rats. That's how fancy it is.
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Maybe a ratatouille.
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Joe.
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That's gonna be funny.
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You have to do the little rat emoji, though.
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So here's my idea to incorporate everything that we've learned here. Hey, Dave. Dave. I'm that blonde girl who said gross when you pulled the rat out of the pool. And later, maybe you can come by and we can have some ratatouille. What do you think, Dave? Smiley face.
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That sounds awful to me, but if
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I was the landlord, I wouldn't be fine.
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It's going off of the Internet. Suggestions here. The Internet is smarter than any of us.
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Sound like a computer. Sure. What if the ratatouille joke is, I haven't been able to cook anything all week because that rat was the one teaching me? No, hey, emphasis on the.
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Didn't land.
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They said there was no bad jokes, but I think we just proved them wrong. I don't know, Callie. I mean, the final decision is yours. It's your text message, so you get to decide what you want to write.
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I mean, I. I definitely feel like something along the lines, like, hey, Dave, Nice. It's Kelly from apartment the blond who said gross when you fish the rat out of the pool.
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Just wanted to welcome you to the building.
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Oh, yeah, I wanted to welcome you to the building. Ratatouille at my place.
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That actually sounds pretty solid.
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Rat emoji.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. Rat emoji. Yeah.
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Okay.
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Only one.
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Only one said sense.
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I mean, we started off on kind of rocky ground there, but I feel like we ended up with a pretty solid text.
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I mean, at least I'm sure we're gonna get a response. He may be like, what are you on, lady?
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You might be evicted.
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Maybe he'll be like, I want some of whatever you're on.
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Yeah, you know?
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Yeah, he'll respond. That's for sure.
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Let's find Out. We're gonna continue and see if Dave, the apartment manager, is gonna lower your rent when we do textual healing.
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Thank you.
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Right after this, one of our listeners, Cali, is on the phone right now. She loves her apartment, but her lease is coming up, and if she wants to stay, which she desperately does, she's gonna need to get a rent reduction or she won't be able to afford it anymore. Now, a younger, single guy has apparently taken over managing her building. His name is Dave, and he is
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cute from what we hear. That's.
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That's what she says.
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And good with dead rats, because their
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only interaction in person has been while she was watching him take a drowned rat out of their pool with a net, and she screamed, ew, gross.
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Yeah.
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And he acknowledged it and was like, yeah, my job is terrible. So essentially, he's basically a stranger to her at this point. That's why I googled the top seven ways to make a stranger like you and want to help you instantly, which
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I feel like has already been in your Google search history.
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Yeah, it did auto fill the rest of it, but. So her first text incorporated three points that I came across. It said, one, you should smile. So we used smile emoji to use their name a few times. So we repeated Dave at least three times in the first text.
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I think we just went with once,
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but okay, well, maybe that was our mistake. And number three, break the ice with some levity or a joke. So we referenced the dead rat, saying that we could do something with ratatouille as a meal over at her apartment. Cali, has he responded?
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He did.
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Why? You sound sad. What did he say? Oh, no.
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Okay. He said what? So you're the tenant who saw me pull the rat out of the pool. You're joking about the ratatouille, right?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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No, but this is good, though. This is good because he's nervous. He's nervous that you caught him. He's nervous you're gonna rat him out. Okay. This has to be our next. No, it doesn't. It really doesn't have to be.
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Don't worry.
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I won't rat you out.
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Lock it in.
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Scream 70 listeners just tuned away.
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Yeah, I need. I need some real advice. Gu.
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That was real.
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Let's do the damsel in distress angle where it says, hey, Dave, I'm in a situation and I could really use your help.
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So we're saying, hey, Dave again.
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I'm sticking with the suggestions you need to continue using his name.
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I need you to rescue me from the pool of Life.
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First you say, yes, it was a joke.
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Okay, that's a. That's a fair point.
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And then you move into, I need your help with something.
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I like that.
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Callie, I'm like a financial rat drowning in a pool of rent.
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Wait, you laugh at him?
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That was funny.
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Okay, come on.
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The delivery was rat.
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They expect dumb from me. Bro, no one expects dumb from you.
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Just tell him, like, I seriously need a way to figure out how to lower my rent by $100.
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Let's wait till the next text for that. Slow your roll, Jeffrey. Yeah, ask for the favor.
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I can't believe you pointed out my rolls. That's really offensive.
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Okay, I got it. I got it. So. Hey, Dave. Yes? Ratatouille was a joke. I'm actually in a situation. I could use your help. My lease is coming up, and I need to find a way to reduce it by at least $100. Any ideas?
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We went from, like, silly to, like, very.
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I know it's direct.
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Direct.
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But you want an answer, so go for it. And it's a business relationship right now.
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And from his last attacks, it's clear he remembers you, so.
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Okay, I sent it.
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He's.
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Okay, I sent it.
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Did you put a smiley emoji on it, though?
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I did not.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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I just said one now. I said one now.
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Follow up, now.
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It's gonna be, like, a big smiley face.
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She's really happy.
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I mean, that's interesting. We're just. We're just throwing.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God. He's responding. He's responding.
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He's responding.
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I mean, I see dots. I see dots. Hold on.
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Wait.
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Okay.
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Dots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots, dots. I'm sorry. It's something they started doing.
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Don't apologize. Fun.
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I just forgot.
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Sorry. What did he. What did he write? Tally.
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He wrote, well, you could get a roommate. That would reduce it by a lot more than $100. Or we could see if we can move you into a smaller unit facing the back alley.
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Look at the rats even more now.
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Room with the
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what if you write back and say, ah, Dave, I don't think a view of the. Of more rats is in my wheelhouse.
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Yes, that's funny. Let's go with that.
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That is funny.
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Well, it's what Jose said. I just reset it.
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Oh, well, yeah, but they take it
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seriously when you say it. Yeah, I just gotta whisper to you.
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Wait. Ooh.
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I'm gonna make it sound like he made a joke. Like, ha, ha. Dave, I don't need a view of more Rats.
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That's great.
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Men like it when they feel funny. Isn't that right, Jose?
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We love it.
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But we need to to ask a question to keep him responding. So let's add something to it. Like, is there any way I could stay in my same apartment and pay less?
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Okay. Okay, it's sent.
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All right.
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I mean, honestly, what about this? What if you volunteer to be on rat patrol at the pool and they could pay you $100? You want to do it, though?
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Yeah, you know, like, yeah. Gross. That's a lot.
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Everybody wants the money without working for it.
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I see.
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If you said, hey, I'm willing to sign a 3 to maybe 4 year lease if this will help me.
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Screw that 100 year lease.
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I was on a lifetime contract.
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I want to die in this building like that rat. Yeah, there we go. Scooping me out of the pool.
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I think rat patrol is much better than this.
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I like death by rat. I think that's somewhere we go.
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This is going to be the last time anybody ask.
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He wrote back.
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He said, I don't think there's any way you can stay here and pay less. Unless you want to help me get rid of the rats. How did this inside joke turn into me becoming like the rat patrol? I can't. I can't.
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My dad uses these poison traps that.
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They aren't really that bad.
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You don't even barely have to deal with a carcass.
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Are we seriously doing a breakdown of how to kill rats now?
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They have like, the new stuff they have is amazing. Although a good old fashioned.
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Let's just ask. I am so sorry. Are you willing to kill rats?
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I don't even want to talk about it, but I just asked them. Are you sure? Dave, Is there anything else?
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Okay, you could be the rat queen. He could be the rat king.
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Me?
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Put a smiley face after those texts.
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Don't forget that last one. I definitely did not.
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Okay, well, maybe this is time to compromise. And then he says, if you do this, then you can get $200 off your rent.
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Say you're gonna do it, then start dating an exterminator and get him to come in and do the work for you.
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Stop trying to live out your fantasies to our listeners.
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It's not a bad idea.
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Most people dream of a pizza boy.
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She's already an exterminator.
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You got a rat.
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I bet they don't have a lot of options in the dating world.
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Let's get back to the texts. Is there. So we said, is there anything else that you can do?
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Are you sure, Dave? Is there anything else? And he is typing.
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Oh, he's typing it.
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Okay.
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Yeah. He says we have an ant problem in the northwest part of the building.
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What? Isn't living in your apartment building now?
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You work there too?
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First he wanted me to deal with the rats, and now he wants me to get rid of the ants.
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Yeah.
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Are you open to that?
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No, that is silly, because I'll jump
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in there in a second. I can't wait to kill a bunch of ants.
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Okay, well, you. I think if you knock off. If you knock off. 200. 200. Yeah.
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I'll do the rat negotiations. You're gonna get it, girl.
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That's good, girl.
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I'll do the rat thing.
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Okay.
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Can you send me a link for, like, the poison traps that your dad.
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Oh, yeah, I definitely can. I'll text my dad right now. He loves this stuff. Are you kidding me?
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Brooke will do a whole podcast about it.
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Exterminate Properly cast with my dad.
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We've. We've textually healed you now at this point, right, Cali.
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Oh, gosh. Dave. Dave, Dave just texted back. Deal.
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Y so much.
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What's so good?
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Oh, my gosh.
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Now you're the rat lady in the building.
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Are there any snakes in there too? Man, we get it for free.
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It's probably more likely raccoons.
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Thanks, Brooke.
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Well, I'll let you know if I end up with the bubonic plague. But anyway, I think. I think I get to keep the apartment.
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All right, well, yeah, if you ever want textual healing, please email someone else.
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Yeah.
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Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
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Hey, it's Erin Andrews and Carissa Thompson,
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To hear more of how we opened up during our live episode from San Fran, check out the full episode now. Wherever you get your podcasts,
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we won't do for cheaper rent. No, for real. I mean, obviously. Rats.
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Rats.
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Would you. Would you hunt down some rats for 200 bucks off your rent? Alexis just. I hate rats so much. I don't know that I could do it with spiders. Yes. I always think if you think of rats just as little big mice. I still don't like that. No, you don't.
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It doesn't help.
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I like how you added little, like little bigger mice.
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Yeah.
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Can you say ginormous mice?
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Yeah. Add the little baby voice when you say rats.
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No.
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Brooks or gross. Okay, okay. But spiders you can handle. Yeah, I could do that for somebody.
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Yeah.
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What about you, Joseph?
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What do you.
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What do you think you could take down?
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I would never kill an animal because I'm a saint.
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Oh, we don't have to kill it. You could capture it and bring it to a new home.
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No, to be honest, I'm scared of all animals.
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Sorry, nobody captures rats and brings them to new home. Yeah, I'm not petting it.
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Wait.
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Come on.
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What?
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Let's take you back to the sewer, little guy.
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Wow.
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My life's changed.
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Please don't tell me you have like seven pet rats at your house. You're saving.
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Alexis, thank you so much for being here. This is the Brooke and Jeffrey Second Day podcast and it's the official one, so we'd love you to see subscribe. It'd mean the world to us. And do what you need to do to get that $200 off your R. Yeah, let us know what you end up doing. Yeah, totally.
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Episode: Textual Healing: Take A Dip In Rent
Date: February 19, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode of the Second Date Update series, specifically the "Textual Healing" segment, centers on helping a listener named Cali navigate a tricky situation with her apartment manager. Cali wants to stay in her beloved (but expensive) apartment, but a looming rent increase threatens her plans. The twist? She recently witnessed her new property manager in an awkward and less-than-glamorous moment. The team—Brooke, Jeffrey, and their co-hosts—guide Cali through crafting the perfect text message to secure a rent break, infusing the discussion with their signature humor, listener banter, and playful advice.
Resolution:
Cali ends up agreeing to help with pest control (rats and possibly ants) in exchange for reduced rent, humorously crowned the “rat lady” of the apartment building.
Memorable Moment:
The segment showcases the lengths people will go for affordable housing—and the eccentric twists negotiation can take (especially with a supportive, mischief-loving team).