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Welcome to Brunch and Bible, where we navigate womanhood through the Word. I'm your host, Heaven, and this is more than a podcast, it's a movement. At Brunch and Bible, women gather, grow spiritually, embrace the complexities of life through work driven discussions, and find practical applications for their own journeys. College could be a place of growth, discovery and new opportunities, but it can also be the enemy's playground. In this episode, we discuss the realities of campus life. From the false freedom the enemy tries to offer to the power of voices and influence. We unpack the challenges students face in both high school and college with relatable experiences, lighthearted moments, and deep spiritual insight. This conversation is a must listen for anyone navigating faith on campus. Welcome everybody, to another episode of Brunch and Bible. And today is a very special day. Why? Because this recording is dedicated to all my college folks. If you're in university, if you're in a community college, wherever you may find yourself, I need you to tune in and share, even right now, before you finish, share to someone else who's a college student. And it's also a very special episode because I have with me my very own sister, Faith. Faith. Faith is not a stranger to brunch and Bible. And so, Faith, we're glad to have you back.
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I'm glad to be back.
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We're super excited. And today is going to be very conversational. We're going to be talking about Christ on campus, right? Having an academic experience that glorifies God. Before we get into that, I want you to introduce yourselves, you know, and just share with us, you know, your, your college, you know, what you studied and all these things like that. Go ahead.
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Hi, everyone. My name is Faith. I just graduated from college actually in December. I'm a December 2024 grad. I got my major in nursing. And yeah, that's it, really. I'm about to take my nclex.
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Where'd you go to school?
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Oh, Indian University. Okay, Boiler up, hammer down. Yeah, no, Indian University is the best for nursing.
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I don't know. I don't know about that, but that's the truth. I'll share a little bit about myself. I too am a nurse. You know, she just loves to just follow my footsteps. Nah, just joking. Yeah, I'm a nurse. I graduated from college a while ago. It's a while now.
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Yeah, it's been a few while.
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Relax, it's been a few years. But I graduated from Purdue University with my Bachelor's of science in nursing. Boiler up, hammer down. Best school in the entire Midwest.
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Delusion.
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Not so. Not quite. I also, like I said, graduated in nursing. And I wanted to first start off right by kind of sharing our college experiences. And the reason why I really wanted to invite you on this episode is that our college experiences, you know, although we're pretty close, were very different. Right. And so I want you to share college from your perspective, you know, going in. What were the kind of things you were looking forward to, you know, coming from. I'll let you share about your life, you know, and what you were looking forward to coming into college. So let's hear it.
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So I went into College in 2020. So that was around COVID lockdown, pandemic. All the things were going on at that time, you know, we weren't. They didn't know if we're going to go to school or not. And so we were just applying, but we didn't know if we were actually going to be on campus or not. But I did want to experience campus life, you know, the campus lifestyle, the parties, the enjoyment that everybody always talks about, you know. But then when we got to the campus, they shut everything down. And I think, I think now that I look back and I'm on this couch, I think that that was done for a reason. Divine orchestration I didn't get to meet anybody in my first year of school, really because we had to be in our dorms all the time and I had a roommate, but most people were about. Were by themselves. And so I, I met people through her. Like, I was, I was. She was involved in like this, you know, how they have like kayalpha and stuff like that. Yeah, like a Christian organization, Christian fellowships and Christian organizations on campus. She was involved in a lot of those, but I never followed her. And as a pk, you would think that I would want to find a community, but I was just never drawn to. I never. I wasn't ready to build that personal relationship with God. And so all my life, I feel like I wasn't far away from God. I wasn't trying to run away, but innately, when I, when she would ask me to go to church, I wouldn't want to go. And so I didn't want to make church friends. I didn't want to make any type of Christian friends. I just wanted to chill and I just wanted to be by myself. I learned a lot about myself because I was by myself a lot. And then near the end of that first semester, I found a group of friends, and I'm still friends with Them there were some good friends. We used to study together. And so I really became about my books. And I remember I just saw a journal recently. I used to journal every day. You know, I failed my first class, and I. The only person I knew to run back to was God. And I think that's, like, really big because we are taught. It was because of the way that I was trained up that I knew that nobody can help me in this class but God. And so that's what made me actually go back to God in my freshman year of college. I want to track back a little bit, though, because going into college was when I started getting really, really close to heaven. And at that time, though, I didn't care about what she had to say.
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Oh, yeah, she actually didn't give a hoot.
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She had just come into her walk with God. And, like, I would talk to her about, you know, the things, the situations I had going on, and she would, like, give me biblical advice. Good counsel. Good counsel. Great counsel. But my ears were blocked and my eyes were shut. And so I. I heard. I've heard some things. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, she's. She's told me she's given me wise advice going into college, but I knew that I still wanted to do my own thing and figure out my own path and walk my own walk. So, you know, I met some friends, and I think it all went left there.
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I want to ask you a question that I know that you'll have the answer to, being that. Oh, we also didn't say that she is the leader, right?
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Yeah.
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By God's grace, she's the leader of a Christian fellowship. Have started with that, that she's a leader of a Christian fellowship. So now, in retrospect, you know, she's able to put a lot of things together. But I want us to start at the beginning of your journey. You know, one thing I really think is that college can be the devil's playground, literally. Right. And so you see so much activity, and I think it's actually demonic activity, because college is a place of transition.
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Yeah, Right.
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And it's a place where you go from literally one phase of your life into another. And I feel like it's the enemy's last chance to get a hold on you before you become extremely stuck in your ways. Right?
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Yes.
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And so I want you to kind of talk to me about that entry point into college. Where were you? I know you had mentioned that you weren't running from God. Right. But you didn't Necessarily want him to be in your life.
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Yeah.
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So I want you to kind of bring us through that period where you were about to enter college. Do you feel like that was the thick of your. What am I trying to say? Do you believe that was the thick of your carnality, as you like the part where you were entering into college, or do you feel otherwise?
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No, I don't think it was the thick of it. I think the thick of it was in high school. Oh, yeah, you started early. No, no, no, no, no. I think the thick of it was in high school. Things were kind of dwindling down by the time I was entering college, if you remember, like, you know, I had gotten myself out of some situations. I was going to college to kind of just get a clean slate, start fresh, figure something out that was new. The only thing that I was running into that was a huge problem for me, that that kind of also had to do with my relationship with God, was trying to figure out my purpose at that time because I have to pick a major and I don't know what I want to do with my life. The only thing I knew was that I liked business. I didn't think about nursing. I didn't think about science, even though I was good in it in high school. But, like, I really didn't care for it too much. So that was the only thing that kind of, like, had me think about my relationship with God. But other than that, I. I found myself in thick and carnality in high school, and then in college, it kind of dwindled out, but I almost found myself back in it.
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Back in it. But, you know. You know what's so interesting about what you're saying as I'm listening is that, like, high school is really the prep. Like, yeah, for me, it was as well. I think my last two years of high school is when I kind of got exposed to an older crowd at that time. A lot of the people that I used to hang out when I was a freshman, like, the people I used to hang out with when I was a freshman and sophomore, you know, were in high school. They were in college now. Yeah, in high school, are now in college. So I'm a junior and a senior, and my friends are now in college.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going on these college visits. Hey, yo. I'm going on these college visits. You know, supposed to be touring, you know, the university and getting information about my major, and I'm going to chill and hang out. I'm going to kickbacks, like, and I'M a junior and senior in high school. Right. And so that means very calculated.
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Very.
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And he knows what he's. He's doing.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of times we don't.
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Yeah.
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So I realize now, in retrospect, that those were the years where he was really opening my heart to the desires of my flesh.
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Yeah.
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And then entering into college gave me the right to fulfill it.
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Yeah.
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You know, it gave me.
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Because now you're free.
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Exactly. Nobody's holding me. So now I can actually do what I've been dreaming of.
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Yeah.
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In.
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And nobody has to know.
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Hello.
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Nobody has to know.
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Talk to. Actually, let's talk about that. Let's actually talk about the fact that nobody has to know.
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Nobody.
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The role of freedom. That's huge when it comes to being in university. Let's talk about it.
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Yeah. I think that's why it's the devil's playground. Everybody has this idea of going into college and they're like, I'm free. That's where you got it wrong. That's where you got it wrong. That is where the enemy has now got you. Because it's that whole idea of I can do what I want that leads you to doing what you want, which is not what God wants. Do you get what I'm saying? And so when we go into college and we're like, oh, you know, now I have this freedom to do as I please, you find yourself in situations that you probably would have never found yourself in just because you want to try new things, because of that freedom that you think that you have. And so that's where the devil really starts, is in high school where he's playing with you. Right now you don't have that freedom, but in a year you'll have it. And guess what? You'll show your parents. Really? You're not showing your parents. You're showing yourself. In 20 years, you'll look back and you'll be sick.
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You know, you mentioned something about at a certain point in your life being, I think, deaf and numb.
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Yeah.
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To the things of God.
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Blind.
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Blinded. Absolutely. And I think there's a scripture that talks about how they were given over to the. Their minds were given over to the God of this world. They were basically entered into a state of reproach. Probacy.
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Yeah.
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Right. Which is where you no longer feel the sensitivity.
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Yeah.
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That you used to feel. At what point did you realize.
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When you. Let me tell you guys something. No, now she's going too far. I realized I did not care when heaven was begging Me.
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I don't remember me begging you, though.
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We were in a car.
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Oh, yeah, that I remember. I remember the car.
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And she was begging me, faith, leave. Faith, stop. Faith, please. And I said, nah, not doing. Not doing.
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I'm not doing it. I'm actually.
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It was right out here.
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It was right out here.
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I said, no, it's not happening.
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I think we actually were in the car for, like, two hours.
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I was crying tears about, I'm not going back. I'm not going with you. You go and figure out your relationship with God. That's fine. Me. Let me. You had your time. Let me have my time.
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Right.
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I knew that then. And now that I look back, I knew that then was it. It was. I was blind.
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You were.
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You were gone.
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But did you realize it in the moment?
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I think when I went home, you know, I was like, dang, you're reflecting. But I didn't change my mind, you know, Like, I was still gonna do what I wanted to do. I was still gonna explore. Right. The things I wanted to explore. And it'll be just fine.
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Yeah.
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And I. I just thought that's the thing is that we trick ourselves into thinking, it'll be just fine. It'll be just fine. Let me explore. You know, God is a redeeming God.
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He is.
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He is. He is. But he rather not to go through. He rather you not go through these situations because he wants to protect your purity, protect your mind, protect your heart, protect your destiny. Yeah. And even the more. Protect your heart, like, even the more, like, protect your heart from seeing and. And feeling and experiencing things that he never desired for you to experience, you know?
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Yeah, I think I can identify that with that a little bit, because there was no point in my college experience where I feel like I truly knew the Lord. I had encounters at experience. I had times where I was like, of course the Lord is real. Like, yeah, absolutely. But I didn't know him personally. And I feel like because of that, I ended up getting into so many different experiences that became baggages, especially in my young adult life that I had to really, really deal with, you know? And so I want to ask you the question, because by God's grace, she got saved during her academic experience.
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Yes.
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So she's the reference point here, not me. At what point did your eyes clear? Like, at what point did your eyes open and you say, you know what? I'm in sin and I need help to get out?
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Let me think. That's a really good question. I think my eyes cleared when I was Going into my sophomore year.
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Okay, talk to us about.
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That was my first month back. And it was actually heaven's birthday. And I was like, I'm going to this party.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
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I was like, I'm going. And I was like, I must go. Like, I will come here.
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What was compelling you? The devil himself.
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No. God is so merciful, man. What? I was like, I must go. We. I got here, I had already. I had my clothes for my party. Under my clothes that I brought to Heaven's house to wear to her part to her party. So under my outfit was another outfit that I was gonna rip off in the car and then just go to the party.
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And my house is actually on the way to her school.
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Yeah. So I came back this way, like 45 minutes. And they went back that way. I was about to leave and Heaven was like, what are you doing? Like, this is od. Like, you drove all the way here. You're only going to be here for 10 minutes just to show face. And now you're about to go back to this party. And I was like, yeah. Like, this is my f. Like, this is finally my year to live. And like, a couple months in. No, a couple weeks into the school year, I just realized, like, what am I doing? I was out every single night in September of 2021. Every single, single night. I was outside. Don't know what I was doing outside. I don't know what was looking for, what I was looking for, what was looking for me. But I just was outside and I had my eye on this guy. I put myself out there today. I had my eye on this guy. And I knew I was gonna. But it wasn't working. And so I was like, yo, what am I doing? Like, I'm actually. And you know, I introduced to things very. Not very young, but, like, I was introduced to things pretty early while I was in high school. So I, like, I was just looking for the next thrill. I was just looking for the next feel good. I was just looking for. I knew that what I was looking for was simply lust. Do you get what I'm saying? What I was looking for out there was lust, like. And it was not right. Like, I knew that I did not find myself to actually be worthy. Like, I found validation in guys at this point now. So, like, what am I doing out here? Like, it didn't make sense. And I don't think that it was like a spiritual awakening. It was just like a self reflection. And that's what stuck out to me. First was like, yo, you don't respect yourself. I don't respect myself. For real. Like, what am I doing? Like, why do I care? Why. Why do I want this so bad? Like, why do I want this to work so bad? Or what do I want to feel? Why do I want somebody to make me feel a certain way so bad? And then that's when I was like, I need to figure myself out. And then situations led to me saying, okay, you know, I'm gonna get my life together because.
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Yeah, okay, I want. I want to put a pin there. And I want us to talk about the role of your environment or, like, voices, Right?
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Yeah.
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So we talk about two different things. You talk about how at the time, I was the one that was, like, badgering you and all these things like that. I want us to talk about this in twofold.
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Yeah.
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In the good way, in the bad way. Right. The Bible says that bad company corrupts good character. Good character. And so what do you think, like, the role of friendships or voices are negatively when it comes to, you know, a person's college experience?
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Yeah.
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In your experience?
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I actually don't think I had anybody around me that was telling me I needed to do the bad thing.
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Okay.
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By the grace of God. And the thing is, even in high school, I was always around the friends. Like, No, I was around pretty good friends, but I was always around the friends that were easily influenced.
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Oh, okay.
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Like, oh, this person's losing their virginity. Oh, I want to lose my virginity. I remember one friend literally saying, like, we have to senior year. Because I remember, like, we have to.
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We all have to.
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Because, like, it's a thing.
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Yeah.
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And so, like, girl, it's our senior year. We have to, like. I remember her. I was just looking at her like, what? By the grace of God. I've never been influenced in that type of way. Do you get what I'm saying? But now, as a leader, though, what you see. What do you mean? Like, with people, Right?
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Yes.
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Yeah. But I do see how those things affect people.
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Yeah.
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Greatly, tremendously. Because, like, you might not even know who you are yet coming into college, and then people are kind of forming you and so who they think that you should be.
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Right.
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And then you're just taking on that character, but you never got to really figure out who you are. And so now when you leave from these people, you're left with the pieces that you don't even know how to put together. You do what I'm saying, and it's rough. It's really rough. I see how it can affect, even in high. It can affect, it can affect you at any age, but in college it's more dangerous just because sometimes you don't have good counsel around you. You don't have your parents who will give you wisdom in certain situations. You don't have a big sister, most likely, who you know you can, who can also be on campus and tell you, I don't think you should do this. At the end of the day, you don't. Nobody has to know, like we said, nobody has to know what you decide to do or what you decide to do with your friends. So I think that's what it was for me was that I didn't necessarily have a lot of people around me. I knew what I wanted to do inside of me, and if I wanted to do it, I was gonna do it. Even if you, even if I got on the phone with you. Sometimes I would even report myself to you before I did it.
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Just to say, actually don't remember this, though.
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Yeah, I'll be like, yeah, I'm going. And you'll be like. And I'll be like, I'm going. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm, I'm going to do it. I'm just letting you know because, you know, I'll just put myself out there. But yeah, I just think you have to have in, in whether you're in college or high school, because honestly, just it all starts in high school. Do you get what I'm saying? So I don't want this to just be for college girlies, like the high school girlies, the seniors, the juniors be watching, hear this, like, know who you're around and know, not just know who you're around. Find who you are in the midst of who you are around. Be yourself in the midst of who you are around. Because if you're not, people will form you into something that you're not and you begin to take on people's characters and you will not know who you are. And by the time that you find out, it'll be very, very tough to now uncover everything that they've already placed on you to, to start fresh.
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And you know what's really, what's really interesting that I've noticed is that college is a breeding ground of confusion. Because what I think a tactic the enemy uses is the mere fact that people are coming from different backgrounds. People are coming who are Buddhist, Islamist, there's people who are agnostic, there's people who, who are Satanists. There are all Kinds of people who are coming into one place. Yeah. For one purpose. But the enemy will never just, you know, take it as it is. He is, he always has a master plan. He's, he. He's always scheming. Right. And so when you look at that factor alone, the enemy's like, aha, I have an. I have a window here that I can use. And so now you see, I think I even mentioned this, that there's a previous episode I did on the college experience, I think, and it talks about when you come back for welcome Week and there's. What is that thing called where all the organizations in the entire university come and they literally advertise and they throw themselves at the students to join their organization. What's it called?
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Like the involvement fair.
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Involvement fairs. You know, every school has them. And you know, I look at this as an opportunity for all kinds of ideologies. I feel like it starts from there. All kinds of ideologies to be thrown at you as a college student. And like she said, if you're not firm and who you are, if you're not firm in your idea, what you know, exactly. What you know about yourself and what you know about God.
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Yeah.
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You will end up taking on the identity. You'll walk in one person and you won't even recognize yourself when you're leaving.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's talk about the moment that you got saved. You can talk if you would like a little bit about, you know, how you got there and then the actual journey or I don't want to say struggle, but challenge. It was to live righteously. Right. Amongst all kinds of stuff that was going on around you as a college student. Cuz I feel like that is one of our college girlies woes that like, I want to live right or they'll have a season when they'll have an encounter like I did and want to live right. And then you fall right back into, you know, the trap that you're trying to get out. And then at a certain time they just, they're just like, well, I tried.
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Yeah.
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You know, so, yeah, talk to us a little bit about that.
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That's so crazy. I never had. Had that experience. Thank you, Jesus. What? That's actually true. I never had that. It's very common though.
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It is very common.
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No, it's very common. And I think that's what it. That's usually how people walk goes, but by the grace of God, it didn't happen for me like that. I always tell people I feel like I had a Saw to Paul transformation overnight. Overnight. It happened in one month. Like, beginning of the month. I was singing Drake. Drake's album just came out certified. Lover boy. Oh, I knew every song on that. By the end, I was. I was a completely different person. By the end. I, I had heard that the Lord was calling me to open up a fellowship on campus. Like, it was a completely different thing. Yeah. You wanted to go there.
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No, no, I, I want you to really dwell on, on that, because that is not the typical.
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Yeah.
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Christian experience. Right. Some of us, we have time to build ourselves up.
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Yes.
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Right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So. So help me, Help me to understand.
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No, but I was built up. Okay, wait, what? How do you say no?
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No, I'm listening. You said you're built up. I'm saying. Okay.
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Yeah. So I, I, it was a, it was a quick work. So a situation happened where I realized that I was not just. We talked about this on one of the old episodes as well, about being a big sister.
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Okay. Yeah.
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I'm not just doing things for myself. I'm doing things and people are watching me like my little sisters are watching me. And the more I find myself in this path, I'm going it 10 times. I'm just leading the way for them to go a hundred times. That's good. Down this path of destruction. And I was like, yeah, I can't do this anymore. And I gave my life to Christ on October 7th, I want to say 7th or 8th of 20. 20. 2021. And I joined this fast, and I was fasting for 15 days. October 23, I believe, was the last day. I know, right? The Holy Spirit is helping me right now. October 23rd, I believe, was the last day. And that was actually a YASM event. So I was actually serving somebody in our church at the time, had pulled me to join the YASM choir. Mind you, I had not been involved in YASM that much at that point or really understood anything that was going on. I did love music. I loved worshiping God, but, like, not with, like, a agenda to do anything. It was just. I just love singing and I love praise and worship. You get what I'm saying? But he pulled me along and he was like, I think I really want you to join ASM choir and I want you to lead this song. So I was like, okay. So I was practicing for months. Up to, up to YASM event. Yeah. And October 23rd. October. So, yeah. October. What is it? What I say? October 8th, 7th. 7th or 8th. I gave my life to Christ. I got the gift of Speaking in tongues that day.
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The day you received Christ?
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Yeah, like the day after or two days after. But I was in warfare at that. So I believe that my situation had like seven heaven said it's completely different because I came in the thick of warfare. It was like. What I think was happening in the spiritual realm is that there was a fight right in the spiritual realm. And my mom, she could have. My mom is a powerful woman of God. Do you get what I'm saying? But I think she needed backup.
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Need some reinforcement.
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Yeah, I think she needed some backup. And the Lord did it. The Lord made it so that, you know, I could be there for my mom in that time.
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And one can chase a thousand, two.
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Can chase ten thousand. Exactly. And so I gave my life to Christ. Got my gift of speaking in tongues like two days later. And I believe it happened that way because the Lord knew that. Oh, no, you need some weapons.
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Yeah, he said, let's go, let's.
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Yeah, you need some weapons. So I said, okay, got it in my closet. And I would be in my closet daily. Oh, wow. I'll be my cousin daily, just seeking the face of God. Just.
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This is where your dad says you were praying.
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Yeah, 10 hours, praying all day. I didn't know nothing about prayer. I was praying my sleep. Literally praying in my sleep. Yeah, I was. It was warfare. Like, I came into my Christian walk and it was immediately warfare.
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Right.
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But I think it was like that because there was a call on my life and I. And the Lord was trying to birth it out at the time. When I hear about the prophecies now. When I hear prophecies now and they tell me that he needed somebody who was a. Who would be available. Do you get what I'm saying? It was. It was the Lord also saying that I need this to be done in this moment. I have a plan. And you are giving your life to me. You're surrendering it all. So I'm going to use you for this. So I'm going to do a quick work in you so that you can be the person I use. And so, you know, gave my life to Christ. Then 15 days later, after the 15 day fast, I was a completely different person. I was. They. In the fast that I joined, they would pray at every single watch. And we would listen to words, good words. And so I was. I was eating all of that up. I was reading my word. I was in my prayer closet. I was asking God to do a work in me. And then on October 23rd, we had a yasmin event. When we had that Yasmin event, a prophet came and he prophesied over my life, and he said that, you know, the Lord will use you to conquer your campus. At the time, I did not get it. And that was the first day I also sang and worshiped and led a.
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No, you were literally on the highway track. Like, I just want you to understand.
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That was the first day I led a. It was so funny how God did it so that I would be able to actually lead from a place by the time Yasm came, even though I had started practicing early and I was practicing out of carnality by the time it came, the Lord allowed me to actually receive from what I was doing and actually see the work that he wanted to do in me.
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Right.
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Because when I got the mic that day, I don't know if you remember Chaos. Yes. You. You have a recording.
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Was it the first Friday, the Friday night concert?
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't even know. I remember the Lord told me that day. So to walk. I was so sensitive to the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Jesus.
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To walk around the church.
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Walk around.
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You said that.
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The church a couple of times and pray. And I was like, okay, no problem. And then when I got up there, I don't even know who I became. I was getting loud. I mean, I've always been loud.
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But there was a boldness.
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Yes, there was a boldness. It was like I knew what I was talking about.
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And I'm like, I just got here.
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Literally. Literally, I just got here. I don't know what's going on. And, you know, I led worship. And then that the prophecy came that you're gonna conquer your campus. And at that time, I did not understand it, and it did not happen as quick as we're talking. I mean, after that was in October. I didn't start it until August of the next year. And it took up. It was a battle. It was a battle in between that time. It was a battle for me to start because I knew that I needed to be built up.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, I need to have that time where the Lord works on me. I can't just go in, just, you know, do. Just pick up a fellowship and say, I'm gonna leave.
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I'm leading.
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I need to know what the Lord wants to do on this campus. And so I took time, figured out. Figured out if it was true. And, you know, even when they prophesied to me, I was still trying to figure out if it was truly me true.
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Yeah.
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You know, but the Lord saw fit that I would start in August of 2022.
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Talk to me about finding a place of purpose. Right. And destiny in the middle of your academic experience. Because I do feel like there's a demographic of women who are watching or young ladies who have encountered Christ. Right. Who feel that tug.
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Yeah.
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And that pull and that call to do something for the Lord. Yours will start a fellowship. But theirs could be so many different things. So just talk to us about that experience of accepting a call. It's different. Like to be saved is one thing.
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Yeah.
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But then to accept the call of destiny in the middle of being a student is a heavy, is a heavy thing. So talk to us about, you know, some of the, the successes, the challenges of accepting your call in the middle of being a regular degular college student.
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It took a lot of assurance from the Lord. I had to go back and ask. I think like during the summer of 2022, I was crying like probably every day. Cuz I was like, there's just no way, like how, why really like those type of questions Because I just didn't understand, you know, at the time. I feel like you feel like you have to have everything together, but you don't. The Lord just needs your yes, somebody catch that. Yeah. You don't have to know anything. Just say yes, you know? Yeah, you just, I, if I, I don't want to say too, too, too much.
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Right.
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Because I feel like I'll just go down the rabbit hole. But it was really just a lot of questioning God. And if it was really, I think a lot of it also came from is now the time? Like I don't want to start early, I don't want to start late. Is now the time. And I think I had to move in faith. And that's still something I'm learning till today, is that God tells you to do something, move in faith, like continue to seek the face of God concerning it and then move in faith. And the Lord will honor you for it. He will honor your obedience. Do you like. We're not robots, right. We're humans and so we're not going to get it right every single time. But the Lord is sovereign enough to help us help us and to help us figure out the path and the way. What was your question again? The other part to your question?
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Basically like what would you say to oh, purpose.
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The purpose question. Figuring out your purpose is about having a real relationship with God first. It's not about coming into your relationship with God to figure out your purpose. When I, I I. I pre. I preface that I. In my freshman year of college, I was failing anatomy course, and that was what prompted me to actually build a relationship with God. Did I understand what I was doing in that time? No. But did the Lord see it fit to make me fill that class so that I could come back to Him? Yes, I do think so. Because then I started journaling every single day. And I would begin to ask the Lord, I would ask the Lord to help me pray, and I would begin to ask the Lord to do his will in my life. And those prayers was. What was leading me to, was really keeping me on the path to the destiny that God had for me and fulfilling the will of God at the right time and in the right season. I didn't get it then, but I understand it now. I guess I did have a time when I relapsed because when I got out of school and I passed that class that after that summer, I was back outside. But then, you know, the Lord snatched me up again right when I got back in school again. So I think that it takes a real relationship with God first.
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Yeah.
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Go to the Lord. Make him your friend. Make him your friend so that he can find use in you. And make him know that you're available to him, that you want his will to be done in your life. That's what it's about. It's about letting the Lord know that I want your will to be done in my life. People are asking God for their purpose, but they're not ready to actually surrender. What are we doing? You think your purpose is what you want to do. That's where you got it wrong. You get. You're getting it wrong because your purpose is never what you want to do. It's never what you want to do. It never is never that easy. Do you get what I'm saying? It takes surrender. It takes sacrifice. We see Abraham sacrifice. We see Noah sacrifice. We see Esther sacrifice. We see. We see a bunch of people in the Bible sacrifice. Yet we think that finding our purpose is just going to be easy work. It's not. You have to have a relationship with him. Then he has to reveal to you where he wants you. And then he'll. He'll put you there and he'll. He'll. He'll cause it so that you will walk right into it with ease.
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Wow. Amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing. That's so good. And now, by God's grace, God has built you up to be, you know, a woman of God.
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You are.
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You are a woman of God. I salute you, woman of God. You are extreme. No, for real, to be very honest, she is somebody who's very passionate about the things of God. And what's very funny is that she's always been passionate, right? But God, as she entered into a relationship with him, refined her passion for the things of his bidding and his in his doings, his promptings. So now that you are, you know, in the faith, you are actually producing fruit and your life is actually influencing others, God has called you to a ministry, right, called Faithless led. And if you so happen to watch this, and you are on IU Bloomington's campus every Monday, right?
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Every Monday, 7pm in the GISB building. We would love to see you.
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Go ahead.
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We would. We would love to see you every Monday at 7pm in the GISB building. We are a fellowship that just wants to lead by faith in Christ. Lead in every. At. Lead in every. What's the word I'm looking for? Lead in every sphere.
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Okay, yeah.
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Yes. Lead in every area. We want to raise leaders in the business place because college is where everybody's learning about different things, right? And so let's raise leaders here so that when they go out into the. Into their fields, into all their respective fields, they have Christ in them and they can take Christ into what they're doing.
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That's beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Great mission. And how does it feel now to lead college students? You know, being that, I mean, you were in college while you were doing it, right? But now you've graduated and, you know, faith LED is doing well, and it's kind of like working on a certain system and you don't have to be there all the time. And, you know, God is. God is expanding you all. How does it feel to be able to be in a place, place of influence to college students and, you know, what are some things that you love about it? What are some things that are, you know, make you kind of bang your head about it? You know, talk to us a little bit about that.
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I never actually feel like I'm leading people. I think I'm just. I've always been a people person, so I just love relationships with people. Like, I love. I'm passionate about people. I love seeing the same people do well. Do you get what I'm saying? So it's always just been that. I just. I. I never really feel. I guess I do have leadership qualities because I'm the firstborn. You know, I've always been the person to take initiative in situations and stuff like that, but never have I felt like, oh, I'm actually like, like, like, I don't know if that sounds right. Like, you have to follow me or you have to do what I say say, or you have to like, do, do it the way I ask you to. I, I just, I just feel like I'm trying to be an, an example. That's what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to be an example on my campus that you can give your life to Christ and still be on campus. You can give your life to Christ and still be fun, outgoing, not boring. You can give your life to Christ and stay in your walk with Christ while, while being on campus. Yeah, amazing.
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Yeah, it's amazing. If you had a piece of advice, you know, to give to any college or even high school student watching, what would it be even? It could be simple. It could be scripture, it could be anything. What, what would you say, say to a college student that's watching?
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Oh, the Bible talks about it in. Is it second Timothy one? No. First Timothy two, 14. Lord, help me. It might be. Let no one look down on you because of your youth, but be an example and set a pattern for the believers in speech and conduct, in love and faith, and in moral purity. So you're not too young to serve the Lord. You're not too young for people. You're not. Just because you're young, does that mean that people are not looking at you? People are looking at you and you are influencing somebody. And so if you're going to be influencing somebody, understand that you should be an example of faith, of love, of purity. That's what the Lord requires of you. That's what the Lord wants for you. That's my advice.
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Amen. Short, simple and sweet.
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Yeah.
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Well, I think we've reached the end of this episode. I'm so grateful if you joined and listened all the way through, through this and if this blessed you in any way, I want you to personally, like, share to a college student. You know, you may not be in college, but share to somebody who can benefit from, from this and also subscribe to support our works. And we will see you in the next episode of Brunch and Bible.
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Bye.