Brunch N’ Bible: “The Gift Of People” feat. Mudia Ogbeifun
Release Date: May 13, 2025
Host: Heaven Kore
Guest: Mudia Ogbeifun
Introduction
In this heartfelt episode of Brunch N’ Bible, host Heaven Kore welcomes her longtime friend and fellow servant of God, Mudia Ogbeifun. Together, they delve into the transformative power of mentorship and sound counsel, emphasizing how God strategically places the right people in our lives to guide us toward our destinies. This episode, titled “The Gift Of People”, serves as an inspiring exploration of community, growth, and the divine orchestration behind meaningful relationships.
Defining Mentorship
The conversation begins with Heaven initiating the topic by asking Mudia to define mentorship. [03:18] Mudia describes mentorship as having someone who has successfully reached a place you aspire to, offering tools, guidance, and support to help you achieve your goals. She emphasizes that mentorship isn't confined to age or hierarchy, highlighting the concept of "horizontal mentorship" where peers can also serve as mentors if they embody grace and wisdom.
Mudia [03:18]: "Mentorship will be going under their leadership, their counsel, seeking advice from them, guidance to get to that next step."
The Importance of Mentorship and Sound Counsel
Heaven underscores the necessity of viewing people as gifts, stressing that no one is an island. She connects the absence of mentorship to potential mistakes and lost destinies among women today. Mudia echoes this sentiment, pointing out that isolating oneself opens the door to negative influences and self-destruction.
Heaven [02:10]: "When we looked at people as a gift, I want us to look at it in the lens of mentorship and counsel."
Mudia [06:38]: "I would say it is costing us our destiny."
Impact of Lack of Mentorship on Women
The discussion highlights how modern cultural shifts towards self-reliance and isolation can derail women's spiritual and personal growth. Both hosts discuss the pervasive pride that prevents many women from seeking or accepting help, leading to feelings of being overwhelmed and vulnerable to the enemy's tactics.
Heaven [07:21]: "We have too much pride, especially as women. We could be drowning."
Personal Stories and Testimonies
Mudia shares her personal journey of transformation through mentorship. After accepting Christ in July 2021, she experienced a significant promotion and relocation, which led her to a supportive church community in Minnesota. Under the guidance of her mentors, Mudia discovered and pursued her passion for media, transitioning from graphic design to building websites and public relations.
Mudia [10:41]: "I was building websites I didn't even know when that started doing public relations, media communication."
Heaven adds her own experiences, detailing how mentors have pushed her beyond her perceived limitations, leading her to manage worldwide tours and organize international events.
Heaven [17:57]: "Now I'm building websites... Now I'm building websites I don't even know when that started doing public relations."
Qualities of a Good Mentor
Mudia outlines the essential qualities that make someone worthy of being a mentor. She emphasizes the fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control—as indicators of a biblically sound mentor. Additionally, she warns against mentors who lack humility or prioritize their own needs over the mentee's growth.
Mudia [24:45]: "Biblically, do they have the fruit of the Spirit?"
Heaven reinforces that mentors should align with biblical truths and be genuinely invested in the mentee's holistic well-being.
Heaven [27:38]: "The Bible says, follow me as I follow Christ."
Challenges in Receiving Counsel and Rebuke
The hosts discuss the difficulty many face in receiving correction, often mistaking it as a rejection of their identity rather than addressing specific behaviors or situations. They stress the importance of mentors delivering counsel with love, wisdom, and appropriate timing to ensure it is received constructively.
Mudia [22:27]: "I think it's hard for some people because they think I'm rebuking your identity and not the situation."
Heaven [23:50]: "You can't even receive anything that I have to say because you're like, oh, no, everybody's against me."
Biblical Examples of Mentorship
Heaven and Mudia draw parallels from the Bible, illustrating how mentorship has been pivotal throughout scripture. They reference Gideon’s affirmation, Eli and Samuel’s relationship, and Aquila and Priscilla mentoring Apollos, demonstrating that mentorship aligns with God's design for personal and spiritual development.
Heaven [14:12]: "We look at the story of Gideon... the angel of the Lord locates him and says, you mighty men of valor."
Mudia [38:03]: Refers to Aquila and Priscilla mentoring Apollos.
Impact of Mentorship on Personal Growth
The episode highlights how mentorship can accelerate personal and spiritual growth by providing guidance, accountability, and the unveiling of God’s purposes. Mudia shares how mentors helped her recognize and pursue her God-given talents, while Heaven recounts how her mentors have stretched her roles beyond her comfort zone, fostering her development into a leader.
Heaven [20:25]: "Because of who you've placed in my life, I cannot fall."
Mudia [31:49]: "It will save you time. It will collapse time."
Conclusion
Heaven and Mudia conclude by reaffirming the significance of mentorship in a believer’s life. They encourage listeners to seek out biblically sound mentors who embody the fruit of the Spirit and to remain open to receiving counsel with humility. The episode wraps up with a powerful prayer, asking God to place the right people in listeners’ lives and to protect them from the enemy’s attempts to sow distrust and isolation.
Mudia [48:12]: "Heavenly Father, we just thank you, we thank you Lord, for the gift of people."
Heaven urges listeners to share the episode with those who may benefit, emphasizing that mentorship is a divine gift designed to nurture and propel individuals toward their God-ordained destinies.
Notable Quotes
- Heaven [02:10]: "People are a gift. We just have to admit that no man is an island."
- Mudia [06:38]: "It is costing us our destiny."
- Heaven [04:22]: "One woman of God says that you can be age mates, but not grace mates."
- Mudia [24:46]: "Biblically, do they have the fruit of the Spirit?"
- Heaven [14:12]: "We look at the story of Gideon... the angel of the Lord locates him and says, you mighty men of valor."
- Mudia [31:49]: "It will save you time. It will collapse time."
- Heaven [42:23]: "Mentorship will shave years of mistakes off of your life, your destiny."
- Mudia [48:12]: "Heavenly Father, we just thank you... for the gift of people."
This episode of Brunch N’ Bible serves as a compelling reminder of the indispensable role that people play in our spiritual and personal growth. Through heartfelt dialogue and personal testimonies, Heaven Kore and Mudia Ogbeifun inspire listeners to embrace the gift of mentorship, seek out godly counsel, and cultivate meaningful relationships that honor God and advance His kingdom.
