
Bubba recaps the death of Hulk Hogan, sits down with Jax State Head Football Coach Charles Kelly, and gets a studio visit from Betty.
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Coach Charles Kelly
Let's go.
Bubba
Well, hello, hello, everybody, and welcome to Bubba on the Lake. I'm your semi retired, mostly washed up host, formerly of the Rick and Bubba show, and we want to welcome you. What a beautiful day it is. At least I hope it's beautiful where you are. I'm feeling very blessed today. Every day is a blessing, we all know that. But some days just feel a little extra and I'm kind of in that mood today. We're broadcasting from the Melayella Studio, I should say, and of course, our web. Y' all quit. Y' all are messing me up. Our website is bubbaonthelake.com bubbaonthelake.com you can drop me an email. Bubbaonthelake.com and of course our message line, which is always entertaining and insightful. 308 Big Lake. That's 308-244-5253 or easier to remember 308 Big Lake. Well, folks, don't forget we need you to subscribe, turn on notifications, all that. We don't want you to miss anything and we always want you to follow us, subscribe. All of that stuff we have to ask you to do now in the podcast world, it's just part of the gig. We appreciate all of you that have done that. We appreciate all of you that are listening, we appreciate all of you that are hanging in there with us. We have a great podcast. We have spoken with Jack State head football coach Charles Kelly. Charles Kelly is an amazing man. He has done a lot of things. He has a well of information. Jack State is his first opportunity to be a head coach, but he has won two national championships, one with Florida State, one with Alabama. He's going to talk about those and a lot of other things. I had a small window to sit down with Coach Kelly because he was about to go to practice, but I could have talked to him for three hours. Been very fortunate to get to know him a little bit better. We share the same lunch table several days and he just, he's just a lot of fun and I know that the Jack State folks are excited about having him and they're looking forward to It. And I tell you, he's got some really good looking football players on campus, so we'll see how that plays out. But we're going to talk to him. We're trying to run down the lovely Betty Lou. She's been strangely absent from the last few podcasts. She's been in the kitchen rattling them pots and pans, and we haven't seen much of her. I know. That's. I know, I know. I'm just. I'm just playing. She does cook a lot, but I'm. I'm joking. That's. That's kind of a joke. She could come in here anytime she wants to, but she. She keeps a very busy schedule. Between hair, nails, whatever exercise thing she does, it sounds like yogurt and, let's see, pickleball. She plays a lot of pickleball. And the guys, I know I shouldn't phrase it this way, but the guys here that play a lot tell me she's getting really good. Now, strangely absent is me playing pickleball. But, you know, some of us got to work. Some of us got to get out here and rub two nickels together, make it happen. So, you know, one of these days, baby. One of these days. Now. Betty's a great athlete. She was not an athlete in high school. She was a cheerleader, but she took up tennis and she's very fast and she's still in great shape. And I'm amazed by her. I really am. I come in every day and I look and I go, so I'm married to that. I can't believe it. She is a special lady, that is for sure, on a lot of fronts. And many of you know that you enjoy hearing her here on the podcast. So we'll try to scare her up for her comments and thoughts a little bit later. Several of you have sent emails and asked questions, things that only she can answer. And we'll try to get to that. I did want to note before we got going, we've had a couple of pretty famous deaths here the last few weeks. One I wanted to touch on briefly. Hulk Hogan. Now, I'm not a big wrestling fan. Professional wrestling, WWE or whatever it's called now, but even if you're not and I look, some of y' all love that, and that's fine. It just never was my cup of tea. Even if you were not a professional wrestling fan, you knew who Hulk Hogan was. He trans. What am I trying to say? He, he, he. Y', all, please quit. You are distracting me. Hulk Hogan. He, he, he just Covered a lot of venues. I mean, he got into acting. I mean, everybody knows who that giant blond haired man wearing a bandana was. Okay, everybody. He was transcendent. There you go. I was trying to get to that. Thank you. He led a life that was wide open, much of it. I was very happy to hear him in a video talking about his life and the mistakes he made and the fact that he got back into church, gave his life to Christ and was a professed Christian. Now, he's had some deals along the way. Now we all know that, but it did my heart good to see that toward the end of his life, what a physical specimen he was. Do you remember how much bigger he looked than Rocky in the movies? You remember when Sylvester Stallone was next to him? I mean, he looked like a midget. Oh, you can't say that. I'm sorry. A small person. You know what I mean? He was a huge hunk of a man and, you know, he will be missed in entertainment circles. But good to hear that he got his life together. All right, we're going to go ahead and take a quick break here. I want to get back with Coach Kelly and try to round Betty up. We got a lot going on here, some other things we got to tell you about. And guys, we're up to podcast 24. We thank all of you for allowing us to do that. Our plan was to get 40 podcasts in the first calendar year. We started in March, so we're ahead of schedule. 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Coach Charles Kelly
Thank you. It's good to be back. I've enjoyed my time since I've been here, but now it's time to start playing.
Bubba
Coach, you just come off media days. You've been asked every question under the sun. Was there any that was really stupid that I should avoid in this interview?
Coach Charles Kelly
No. I mean, I think most people, I think the biggest thing is people want to know, hey, can you match the success that Jack Staig's had the last couple of years? And that's a valid question. But every year in college football, especially the way college football is now, you're rebuilding a team every year so it wouldn't matter who the coach was, you're going to have a new team every year. And now the thing is, can we make a team out of the guys that we have?
Bubba
Coach, tell us a little bit for those that may not be familiar with your past, about your high school and how you ended up playing at Auburn?
Coach Charles Kelly
So, you know, I went to high school at G.W. long Southeast Alabama. My dad was a high school football coach and, you know, grew up around it. This is my 52nd fall camp. I started going to fall camp with my dad when I was five years old. So I grew up around it. I knew at a young age I wanted to be a coach. You know, played four sports in high school. And then, you know, when I got ready to go to college, you know, I had some, some offers from some schools. But, you know, I always wanted to play, you know, for Coach Dye. Coach Dye was kind of the guy I looked up to when I was growing up as a coach. And so I walked on at Auburn, which was one of the toughest things, you know, that I probably could have ever chosen to do. But I'm glad I did it because I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. I wanted to be around the best football coaches in the country. And at that time, I felt like, you know, Auburn had the best. I was very fortunate to play under defensive coordinator Wayne hall, who, you know, at the time was probably the top DC in the country. So I learned a lot of football, you know, from him, Coach Dye, the other assistant coaches. And, you know, I knew I wanted to coach now. I wanted to be a high school, you know, head football coach like my dad. That was my goal when I. When I graduated from school and I started to work at Central Phoenix City with Wayne Trawick. He was one of the top coaches in the, you know, high school football at that time. And coach there with him three years. And then Coach hall came back to me and said, listen, I want you to come be a graduate assistant. And I remember wrestling with it and thinking, you know, I don't know if that's what I want to do, but I did. I knew I'd learned a lot of football and I went back, did that. We were fortunate.
Bubba
We.
Coach Charles Kelly
That was the 93 season. Terry Bowden was the head coach at Auburn. Wayne was the defensive coordinator. We went 11. And oh, and then, you know, I was one of those guys. I didn't have enough money to be a GA more than one year, so I had to find me a job. And just so happened that Coach Burgess had a running back job come open, it was late in the summer, and came up and interviewed with him. And I'd been working on the defensive side of the ball, but, you know, I told coach, I said, I can coach anything. And so that's what got me started. And then, you know, in college football, it's just a lot of it's who you're around. I had the fortune of working for Coach Burgess, and then later on I went on and I worked with Jay Thomas at Nicholls State. I worked with Patrick Nix at Henderson State, then I worked with Chan Gailey at Georgia Tech, then Paul Johnson. Both those guys had won national championships just like Coach Burgess. And then I went on to Florida State, was with Jimbo. We won a national championship there and went with Jeremy Pruitt to Tennessee. Pruitt and I had coached together at Florida State, so I knew what kind of, you know, coach he was. And from there I went with Coach Saban to Alabama, probably learned as much football, you know, in four and a half years, as you could possibly learn. Went on and worked with Coach prime at Colorado. And then I had a chance to come back to Auburn last year with Coach Freeze, and Coach Freeze gave me the opportunity. And honestly I thought that was the first time I'd had a chance to coach at my alma mater since I'd been in coaching. And I thought, that's probably where I'll retire. And then when the Jack State job came open, Greg Sites called me and said, would you be interested in coaching there? And I said, well, I'll walk up there to be the head coach. So that's how it worked out.
Bubba
Coach, you, you. Quite a laundry list of great coaches you've worked with, who were some of the contemporary players at Auburn that you played with. Just so everybody can of set the time frame of when you were there.
Coach Charles Kelly
You know, when I was there early in my career, Jeff Berger was our starting quarterback. Tracy Rocker was a defensive lineman.
Bubba
You didn't have to fight Jeff Berger at any point, did you not?
Coach Charles Kelly
No, I tried to avoid that at all cost.
Bubba
He liked the brawl a little bit, didn't he?
Coach Charles Kelly
He did. And he was as competitive a guy as I've ever been on a team with.
Bubba
He's here with us now, Jack State, helping to raise money.
Coach Charles Kelly
Absolutely. And he, he does. He's as competitive a person as I've ever been around.
Bubba
Yeah, I wouldn't want to tell him no. I played half a round of golf with him. I saw how competitive he was. We were in Clay county and he was playing like we were at the Masters.
Coach Charles Kelly
You know, he. Anything he does, he does it wide open. But, you know, he, he led us to the first SEC championship in a long time. And. And then of course, you know, was good friends with Tracy Rocker. He and I have had a chance to coach together. Stacy Searles is one of my best friends in the whole world. He and Rodney Garner. So there were a lot of guys, you know, and I had a lot of great teammates, you know, after Jeff left, Reggie Slack was our quarterback. Lawyer Tillman was a wide receiver. I mean, I can't. I mean, I could go on and on about the great players that, you know, we had at that time. But more than great players, they're great people and they were great teammates. And, you know, even all those championships we won down there, you look at those rings and you go back, you think about the people that were made up those teams and that that was what was special.
Bubba
You coached here with Coach Burgess, one of your first coaching Jobs. Tell us about Coach Burgess. I heard you tell a recruiting story the other day. You may or may not want to share that at this point, but what was it like coaching with Coach Burgess here?
Coach Charles Kelly
You know, and I honestly, looking back after coaching with Coach Saban and being around him, and in retrospect, looking back, working for Coach Burgess, they were so similar, you know, in how they ran things. The personalities might have been a little bit different, but Coach Burgess was as organized guys I've ever been around, and he knew exactly what he wanted, and he knew exactly how he wanted it. We were, you know, very. He was a very tough. He's one of the toughest men that I've ever been around, and everybody around him that was successful had to be tough. He was a really good recruiter. He was great. And you could take him on a home visit, and he did a great job because he was genuine. He was authentic. And people, you know, believed in what his vision for this place was. And, you know, there's no arguing what he did for this university and bringing the, you know, the national championship here. I mean, that.
Bubba
Now, you never got in trouble for stepping out on a scholarship offer or anything, did you? Just by chance, just wondering.
Coach Charles Kelly
Well, coach was. I'm telling you now, Coach was about evaluating the right kind of people. And I will tell this. He, you know, one time, it was my first year, and he knew I was gung ho about recruiting. And we were recruiting a defensive back named Delvin Hughley, who was a great player for us here. And we couldn't really see Delvin on. Back then, you didn't have all these highlight tapes, so you had to go watch them. So I went down to watch him play, and he told, you know, he said, go watch him. See what you think. So I watched him play, and I was watching him play basketball, you know, you could see how he could move. I can tell if a corner can play man to man in about four minutes in a basketball game. So it was obviously he could. Obvious he could play, but there was another guy playing for him. And, you know, I kept watching him and I'm like, he is some kind of athlete now, big power forward. And I'm thinking, you know, so I'm sitting with Rodney Bivens, and I was like, you know, I said, coach, we gonna offer Delvin? I said, we need to go ahead and offer this other guy, too. So anyway, then that was on a Friday night. We get back Saturday morning, and Coach Burgess is going through his list and he goes around the table and he gets to me and he said, hi. He said, you watched Delvin? And. And I said, yes, sir. He said, what'd you think? And I said, coach, he's quick. He's got ball skills. He can, you know, he can play man to man. And you could see that he'd tackle on tape. That. That was a thing that Coach Burgess could see. He knew he could tackle people. He knew his physical. He just wanted to know if he could cover somebody. I said, yeah, he can. So Coach started going around the table, and I said, coach. And he just looked up above those glasses and he said, what? And I said, coach, they got a big old power forward down there that plays. And I said, coach, we ain't got. I mean, I don't know if we got anybody that looks like him on the team. And he said. And. And I said, well, I went ahead and offered him, too. And. And. And his comment was. He just reminded me that we weren't recruiting a basketball team. We were recruiting football players. So we get done with the meeting, and he got. I'm a little whooped, you know, and he walks around and he says, you think he's that good a player? And I said, yes, sir. I said, coach, he's some kind of athlete. And I had not. Honestly, I had not seen him play on the football field, but I knew people were recruiting him. And, you know, he said, well, if we're going to offer him, let's, you know, let's try to get him. And I think that guy wound up, you know, playing in the NFL for about eight or nine years.
Bubba
But did you get him, or did he go somewhere else?
Coach Charles Kelly
No. Joe Pate from Arkansas came in here. Joe Pate, he. They stole him. Coach Pate always did a great job in this area of evaluating, and when he got that SEC offer, it was a little too much for us to handle.
Bubba
Coach, you. You coached against your alma mater in a national championship game that you won at Florida State. What did that feel like? And what does it feel like to be on a team? You've done all the recruiting, you've done the spring, you've done the summer, and it all comes together. You win a national championship, you're at the top of your profession. That has to be outstanding.
Coach Charles Kelly
It was. That was as surreal a moment for me as anything that's ever happened in coaching. I was. That was the first time I had ever played against Auburn in the entire time I'd been in Coach. And at that time, that was 2013, I'd, you know, I'd been coaching what, 23 years, you know, it was. It was crazy. I can remember walking on the field and when we, when I came out of the tunnel, I remember hearing the fight song and I remember that hit me. And you know, of course, I had one of my best friends, Rodney Garner, was coaching D line for Auburn. We met in the middle of the field going through warmups. I can remember everything was. Our guys were so excited. I was excited. I remember the night before, I couldn't sleep, but I had a calmness the next day. I do remember this, though. When that ball kicked off in the Rose bowl, when, when, when it, we kicked it off, it was like nobody was in the stands. I mean, I could hear the players, you know, talking on the field, I mean, grunting. I mean, it was just like nobody. It was like. It was like coaching at Central Phoenix City. It was like nobody was in the stands. And it was a great football game. They had great players, great coaches. And I can just remember when we won that game at the end, it was, you know, it was just like when the game ended, then I heard everything. It was crazy. And then we went in the locker room. It was just. It was one of those surreal moments. And I knew I was lucky enough to be around a lot of good players and a lot of good coaches that now I had an opportunity to say I'd been a part of a national championship team. I can remember that bus ride on the way back to the hotel. Getting on the bus, it's just like, I can't, you know, can't believe this is happening. And then waking up the next day before we flew back to Tallahassee, that was, that was something. And you never take that for granted.
Bubba
Your bus ride back was better than mine because we were on a bus with Auburn fans. It was kind of quiet.
Coach Charles Kelly
It was a. I mean, it was a back and forth game. There were so many plays in that. I say so many plays. You know, there are always four or five plays in the game that are going to affect the outcome of the game. You just don't ever know when those plays are going to occur.
Bubba
You didn't call the fake punt, did you? That really turned the momentum around in that game.
Coach Charles Kelly
Well, Jimbo asked me, you know, we had worked. It's crazy because we had worked this fake punt and we had faked like three punts during the season. I was a special teams coordinator. And, you know, when you work for an offensive head coach, the thing you learn is they. The thing that they love most, more than Anything is calling plays. They want to call play, so they want the ball back. So if you're the defensive coordinator, they don't care how you get the ball back. Just get the ball back.
Bubba
If you get me on the headset.
Coach Charles Kelly
Get me the ball back. So Jimbo, you know, he. We had worked this fake punt, and I had changed the formation. We'd worked it for a while, a little reverse, and we had worked it for a while. I changed the formation when I'd done the breakdown, and he walks out there one day, and he said, why don't we change the form formation? I said, coach, I said, because even if they figure it out, I said, this guy over here on the other side, he ain't going to tackle Carlos Williams. And Carlos was the guy. You know, we always thought, even on offense, we thought players first, plays second. So we were thinking how to get in our best guy's hand. We actually had three fakes that we'd worked, you know, going in. We had a lot of time to work, but we went with that fake first. We actually had another one planned for later in the game. We were going, because nobody ever fakes two in a game. So we were like, all right, if we need this again, we got another one. But when, you know, he. He. We were struggling the first half, and offensive. We were struggling on both sides. They were moving the ball. We couldn't move the ball. And it was just a point in the game. Jimbo was like, hey, you got this thing ready? And I was like, yes, sir. And we went with it. And, you know, it. It did. We. We went on to score on that drive. And then later on, we. You know, it was crazy how these games work. It's like we were on kickoff return, and I can remember breaking them down thinking, why are we working these kickoff returns? They kick it out of the back of the end zone every time. But we were like, okay, if it's not deeper than five yards, we're bringing it out.
Bubba
And because that works against them, too, they're not used to tackling.
Coach Charles Kelly
They're not used. That's exactly what we thought. And we were over on the sideline, and we. We had. We'd been running this one return. Jay Graham was our running backs coach. He'd helped me with kickoff return. And I just asked. I asked Jay, I said, what do you think right here? And he said, you like counter? And I said, let's run it. And we ran the counter left return. And, oh, Kermit, he hit that thing running. And I mean, that was, those were two big plays in the gap, but there were a lot of big plays. I mean, Nick Marshall made a lot of plays in that game. Their running back, you know, unbelievable. Trey Mason, Trey Mason, he, he was really good. They had a good offensive line. And then defensively, I mean, they caused us a lot of problems. But you know, I give Jimbo a lot of credit too. We, we had, we won that game in a two minute situation at the end of the game. And people think, well, it's, you know, we had good players, don't get me wrong. But we had done that two minute situation when we had been back in Tallahassee. And I'm telling you now, Jimbo was not happy with it at all. I mean, he, I mean he, he just went off and then, you know, when we got to California and started practicing that last day of practice when we did that two minute drill, I mean, it went just like it was supposed to. I can remember every coach on the sideline when we got that ball, I think minute and 30 something seconds left.
Bubba
Tre Mason could have took a knee and made it a little more difficult. But who thinks to do that when you wide open, right?
Coach Charles Kelly
And then, you know, analytics, we try to look at that now and say, all right, hey, when we do this, just get down. But we felt like when we got the ball, everybody on that sideline was confident because of what we had done, the preparation. And that's one thing I learned from Jimbo is it's all the situations. He was a great situation coach. You know, whether it be third down or two minute or end of the game, you know, he taught us a lot about that. We played, we just played that night. Auburn played better than we did. We just played the situations better and that's how we won the game.
Bubba
Coach, we're just minutes away from practice. I want to be respectful of your time, but tell us a little bit about coaching for Coach Saban. I mean, there hasn't been. He's the goat.
Coach Charles Kelly
He is. And you know, I tell everybody, coaching for Coach Saban, they said, what was he good at? He was good at everything. Everything. I mean, he was as knowledgeable. And I said earlier, you know, about, he and coach, Coach Burgess knew everything that was going on in the building. Everything. Special teams, defense, offense, he knew it. Coach Saban was masterful at everything. He understood what he wanted and he had a knack for making everybody in the building push in that same direction. He was a fabulous evaluator of talent. Everybody, you know, everybody thought, well, we Just got all the five stars? Well, no, not necessarily, because a lot of those guys that he recruited were not five stars when he first started recruiting them. In fact, there have been a lot of guys that only have one or two offers that, you know, he made a decision to recruit. They wound up being really good football players.
Bubba
And not all five stars end up playing like five stars, but it appeared that Alabama had a skill for when they got a five star. They played like it, right?
Coach Charles Kelly
And that came to the development. So I always feel like. And I want it to be like this in our program. I always felt like coach did a great job. There was three things that we did every day in our building. We evaluated, number one, we evaluated players, we evaluated what we were doing. He evaluated personnel. He evaluated coaches. He evaluated support staff. And then we recruited. We evaluate and look, okay, this is what we need, or this is what he needed in a coach, and he recruited that guy. But this is what separates the great coaches from the good coaches, is when you do that now, you got to develop. You got to develop your coaches, you got to develop your support staff, you got to develop your players. And he was a master at that. And that's what made him so successful for so long. And again, we had great players when I was there and, you know, before I was there, but he. Everybody in that building had something to do with us being successful, and there was nobody on a different page than he was.
Bubba
We see now, and we hear stories about his sense of humor. Did you see that coming out a lot then, or was that kind of stuck in the background?
Coach Charles Kelly
No, I mean, coach like to listen when it was time to work, he worked. But, I mean, he. He would. I mean, he was. He was always funny. I mean, he. You know, he. He would say things that, I mean, I probably shouldn't say on here, but he's. You know, there was a lot of times, for me personally, the. My favorite times were when we were, you know, when we were out recruiting, when we would go, you know, to. To visit schools and do home visits and things like that. He. You know, he. I wanted to show him how hard I could work. You know, I'm not very talented, but I always felt like I could outwork people. And I remember one day I. We were in Atlanta somewhere. And, you know, I've said this before. God blessed him with a lot of things, all right, but patience ain't one of them. But anyway, I wanted, you know, we're working, we're working, we're working. And he finally said, hey, man, you gotta stop. He said, I mean, let me get a pack of peanuts or something, because I know you guys, you act like you don't eat when you're out recruiting. He said, I mean, man's gotta eat sometime. But anyway, so we stop, get something to eat, and we went and did this home visit. And I'm looking at my watch, and we get through with the home visit pretty good. And I got about an hour and 40 minutes before our next home visit. And I'm thinking, oh, boy. I said, he ain't gonna want to sit around now. I said, this is gonna be bad. So I told him. I was like, listen, we. We got a little bit of a drive right here, Coach. And I said, I know it's been a long day, so I'm gonna stop up here, get us something to eat, and then we'll. We'll go for a ways. He goes, all right. So I was only. About the home visit we were at. It was only about 10 minutes to the other house. I'll never forget. I drove from. It was over in Gwinnett county, and I drove all the way to Dawsonville, Georgia, and back to Gwinnett County.
Bubba
Did he ever realize what you were doing?
Coach Charles Kelly
I don't know if he did or not. I don't think he did. But I was like, I am not going to sit over in this parking lot and be parked, you know, and. But it's just. You just made things work out. But he. He had a great sense of humor, you know, because, listen, the thing I learned from Coach, too, you. He was very demanding, but it wasn't demeaning. And he demanded the most. And, I mean, if he told you, you know, if he expected you to do something or ask you to do something, he meant for it to be done. And if it wasn't done, he was going to confront you or confront the player or anybody else at that time. If he never. If he didn't ask you or didn't tell you, he just went on about his business. And I just think that's what made him so successful. I know he got a lot from his mom and his dad. He talked about them a lot, how they influenced him. The stories about his dad, you know, as a Pop Warner coach and the influences he had. And then his mom was such an influence. And, of course, Ms. Terry, his wife, was. You know, I tell people a lot. She had a lot to do with the success he had over the years.
Bubba
Coach, you've played in bigger venues with more seats, but what's it Going to feel like when you hit this field, the marching Southerners are playing, the crowds cheering, and you're the head coach first time out.
Coach Charles Kelly
Well, first thing is with the, with the Southerners here, there's nobody in America that can touch them. I mean, my, that's the. My daughter was born here in Jacksonville and you know that the one thing that they still remember is how good the Southerners were, you know, even when they were, you know, when she was small. And then our fans, you know, we got fans that love football. I mean, we're in a great location in a five hour radius where we get, we can recruit a lot of good football players. Their people can come see them play and then just to, you know, to be the head coach. DeShawn Davis asked me the other day, he's like, coach, he said, you nervous? You. I wouldn't call it nervous. I just, I want to make sure that we're prepared. And I said, you know, I've been working for this all my life. So just go out there and do, do what you've been trained to do. Lean on the things that you learned from these other coaches and you know, your past and you make decisions based off of all the information that you got. So we try to gather as much information as we can and make the best decisions.
Bubba
Coach, one more question. I'll let you get to practice. What's the Gamecocks gonna look like this year? Offense and defense, what can we expect?
Coach Charles Kelly
Well, on offense, you know, I think, I think Rich Rod and you know, of course I'm glad to have coach Trickett back. That was our top recruit that we got last year. I thought they did a good job of running the football and being fast on offense. We want to do that. We want to be a fundamentally sound, fast offense now. We want to be able to change tempos. We want to be able to run the ball to win, but we got to throw the ball to score. I just think in today's football, to have a chance in every game, you got to be able to do both. But we got to be able to run on defense. This is what we want to make sure. We want to have a ball out mentality. We want to play with relentless effort. We want to be violent tacklers and we want to be able to execute elite. So when we get in those situations, we got to be able to execute. Because I don't care how much college football has changed in the last five years, what it takes to win hasn't changed. It's going to people that People that can execute, people that can take care of the football and they get the football on defense and then on special teams, who. I'm excited to have Maxwell Thurman back. You know, we want to be the difference. We want to be, you know, we want to be attacking, we want to be aggressive, we want to be able to block punts, we won't be able to return punts. We want to be able to fake punts. We want to be. We don't want to sit back and be conservative. We want to make. Create plays in the game that can help us win the game. So. And when people watch us play, I want them to say, man, these guys are fast, they're physical, they're tough, they are disciplined, and they will compete. If you do all of those things, you'll win all the games you're supposed to and some of them that you're.
Bubba
Not supposed to coach. Thank you. We're so excited to have you at Jack State and we're looking forward to a great season. I could sit here and talk to you for three hours, but you got work to do.
Coach Charles Kelly
We can do that, but I'm ready to go to work.
Bubba
And of course, you can come out and see Coach Kelly live at the Apothecary Drafthouse on the square in Jacksonville. Every Monday night, we have a show called Jack State Live, where we reflect on other sports and things going on on campus for 30 minutes. Then we have the Coach Charles Kelly show, which is an hour, all of it hosted by Eli Gold. It's going to be on radio and tv. Check your local listings for that. Coach Kelly, thank you very much.
Coach Charles Kelly
Thank you. It's Bubba on the Lake. Bubba on the Lake.
Bubba
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Coach Charles Kelly
You know one thing I love about Buffalo Wild Wings?
Bubba
You can get wings with any of.
Coach Charles Kelly
Their 26 sauces and dry rubs for takeout and delivery.
Bubba
That's like bringing an entire B dubs.
Coach Charles Kelly
Home with you, which you can't do. I tried. I've knocked down so many walls only to then be told to halt construction because I'm not zoned to be a sports bar.
Bubba
Kind of just looks like a big pergola or something. Because of the lack of walls, at.
Coach Charles Kelly
Least these 26 sauces and dry rubs are available.
Bubba
To go. Buffalo Wild Wings. Let's go, Sports bar. Hello again, everybody. This is Herb Wenches, owner of the Landing at Parker Creek and the Landing at Harper Point. You are listening to my dear friend.
Coach Charles Kelly
Bubba on the Lake.
Bubba
Well, she's back by popular demand. The one and only Betty Lou Bussy. Honey, how are you?
Betty Lou Bussy
I'm doing good. Not sitting on the back porch this time, but I'm doing great.
Bubba
Yeah. Got to point that mic right.
Betty Lou Bussy
Got to point it right here in the mouth.
Bubba
Yep.
Betty Lou Bussy
You.
Bubba
You have not got used to the microphone yet. The proper distance, you'd have it up in your eye or under your chin or pointing. You'll get to talking in. The mic just falls away, going like a compass going in an opposite direction.
Betty Lou Bussy
It's like my hand. I move my hands when I talk.
Bubba
Well, you're free to do that.
Betty Lou Bussy
Move the microphone with the microphones in my hand is the problem here. So anyway. But hey, well, how about that podcast here?
Bubba
I'm glad to have you back on the podcast. You haven't been on the last few. You are looking hotter than ever, by the way. Thank you for coming into the studio here. And I tell you, I had to.
Betty Lou Bussy
Pause Holiday Hotline in there. You know, it's Christmas in July.
Bubba
Now, what channel is that on?
Betty Lou Bussy
That be. Am I supposed to advertise for them or what? Holiday hotline.
Bubba
I cannot get you to hold the microphone. Right. But no, what channel?
Betty Lou Bussy
Hotline on Hallmark. It's all the ages. For some reason. That's just coincidence.
Bubba
But, you know, I feel better about watching shows with you since Bo Jackson admitted us to one time. That's all he does is watch Lifetime.
Betty Lou Bussy
Watch Lifetime with his wife.
Bubba
Isn't that the same thing?
Coach Charles Kelly
No.
Bubba
No, it's not.
Betty Lou Bussy
Well, might be the odds. Not to me. You know, Hallmark, they usually don't kill anybody unless you're, you know, watching some mystery you know, and they all have cookies at the end, you know, even though somebody got killed.
Bubba
So, you know, this is terribly inside. But I realize now why the headset worked better for you because it held the microph phone and you couldn't mess with it.
Betty Lou Bussy
Well, can you not hear me?
Bubba
Yeah. I mean, you do, but you still don't. You don't really speak out. You talk internally and, you know, that's kind of something you have to learn to do. Okay, you want. You want the sound happening out here, not back up.
Betty Lou Bussy
Read that.
Bubba
Not that I have a great voice, but I can. I can get the volume.
Betty Lou Bussy
Read what's on it. And I'm going to pronounce it really big.
Bubba
All right, go ahead.
Betty Lou Bussy
I love the smell of rocket fuel in the morning, y'.
Bubba
All.
Betty Lou Bussy
This is the cup he has up here along with his JSU Golden Eagles and his Jack State. Little cocky that we got last week. And also his bobblehead, the Bubba bobblehead.
Bubba
I noticed the matching one of that disappeared.
Betty Lou Bussy
That was a therapeutic moment.
Bubba
Oh, well, you know, so you go into that. You mentioned the. It was called Lunch with the Gamecocks in Montgomery. We went to and we met a lot of nice alumni that work downtown there in the Montgomery area. It was. It was a good get together. The high school athletic association was having a coaching clinic across the street, so we had several former athletes come. But it was good to meet all those folks.
Betty Lou Bussy
Yeah, yeah, there was some kind of something going on across the street. Is that what you just said?
Bubba
Yes, I just. I just said. That just came out of my mouth like 2 seconds ago, not 10. 2 seconds ago I said that exact thing. Well, are you okay?
Betty Lou Bussy
I did not hear it is because I'm trying to concentrate on holding this and pronouncing my words out.
Bubba
Are you okay?
Betty Lou Bussy
I'm great, yeah. Sitting here in Bubba on the Lake, the mellow yellow studio. I'm doing great.
Bubba
It's. It's after dinner because that's when we do most of the recording. And I don't know, I thought maybe the. The red wine had been flowing in there at dinner or something.
Betty Lou Bussy
I've been to.
Bubba
If it was. We're going to end this podcast pretty quick and get back in there to Hallmark.
Betty Lou Bussy
No, no, I am listening to the dogs bark because apparently there's deer in the yard.
Coach Charles Kelly
Yeah.
Bubba
They started recording and they have been barking non stop. I mean, not, not the normal. Hey, something's wrong. It's non stop. Well, and I don't know if you can hear them or Not I can.
Betty Lou Bussy
But they were watching the holiday hotline with me and fast asleep until you wanted me to come in here. So here I am.
Bubba
The people have been asking that you come back. You've been. And look, we've had some great long form interviews. We just had coach Charles Kelly on which by the way, is he love.
Betty Lou Bussy
Coach Kelly, one of the nicest guys.
Bubba
And I'm not just saying that because of the Jack State connection, but he, he is, you know, we've dealt with a lot of coaches and they're all great, but he is one of the nicest coach as far as making time for things I've ever met. Now he may grow out of that.
Betty Lou Bussy
He might. Yeah. And I don't have, you know what I mean? I love Jack State, but I just met him, you know, not that long ago and I don't work at Jack State, you do. So he has no reason to be nice to me necessarily. But he is always very nice, very nice guy.
Bubba
And I met his wife, she's extremely nice and she was a big fan of the radio show for many years and good deal. Very, very, very nice to meet her. So, yeah, we're looking forward to that. I hope he has a wonderful run there at Jack State. He, he's got some great athletes on campus now if they can pull it together, we'll see. But you never know about that. But it'll be exciting. I mean, it's going to be very interesting. Football season and the very first game he goes to Central Florida, who has a new coach, Scott Frost, who is now back at Central Florida after leaving to go to Nebraska. Kind of bombed out there. He's back at Central Florida and it's interesting to see if he will be able to recreate the success he had there. You know, he beat Auburn in a bowl game. They claimed they were number one in the country that year because Auburn had just beat number one Georgia and number one Alabama lost to Georgia in the SEC championship game and then lost to Central Florida. So we'll see. I mean there's, there's more storylines out there this year and you shake a stick at.
Betty Lou Bussy
Oh yeah, and I know you had a comeback.
Bubba
I know you're excited about that since we're talking with your phone.
Betty Lou Bussy
Well, we're about to talk about sports apparently. And I wanted to read this because apparently Harvard University study finds that you need at least two pickleball nights a week to remain healthy. Did you know that, you know, I.
Bubba
Was going to bring up your pickleball habit and I think I mentioned that earlier in the show. You probably didn't hear that, and it's probably best you didn't. But you. You devote a lot of time to pickleball.
Betty Lou Bussy
Do not devote a lot of time. One, sometimes two days a week.
Bubba
I know this when I go out to eat, and men from the area will stop me and go, your wife's really getting good at pickleball.
Betty Lou Bussy
Okay. That's because we played last Friday and we saw him Friday night. That's who you were talking to.
Bubba
Well, that's. Then what I said is true, though.
Betty Lou Bussy
But I mean, I usually play on Mondays and sometimes Fridays. Sometimes it's just Monday. It's called the Laid Back Pickleball ladies.
Bubba
Now, you. You.
Betty Lou Bussy
You're all laid back.
Bubba
You have quite a schedule now. What else do you do? Let's. Let's talk about your schedule a bit, because everybody wants to know about your life and what you do.
Betty Lou Bussy
You mean my schedule? Today I drove to Birmingham to help our son. Tomorrow I'm driving to Jacksonville to visit with my mom. So every now and then we do that.
Bubba
The sweet.
Betty Lou Bussy
Sometimes I drive with you.
Bubba
Mama Walker.
Betty Lou Bussy
That's right. She is turning 94 August 12, so that is amazing. Yep. And we will be married 36 years Aug. 12. And she's still asking me, why do y' all keep planning things on my birthday? I said, well, mom, we were trying to plan it around your foot Bill's football schedule back when we got married, and now we're still doing that.
Bubba
I know, I know. To figure, it's like it never goes away. I feel like we've come full circle in a lot of ways, you know?
Betty Lou Bussy
Yeah.
Bubba
And it's. It's been quite a little haul. So, Betty, tell me this. You. We've talked about you doing a podcast. Well, let me. Let me back up. You said you went to help Hunter and you brought in and you were very disgusted when you got home and aggravated and I understand for the day. Well, this is a good question, though. How do you navigate this? You've got a situation where our son, he has just purchased a house. Starter home for him. Good for him. He's out of the rental business and, you know, he's building a little equity. I think that's extremely wise thing to do. You know, we. We did that when we first got married. We bought a house. We lived in Jacksonville, but we had to because rent was 600amonth. We couldn't afford it, and our house payment was 325. So, I mean, it just made sense. We had to move out of town a little bit. Couldn't be on the prime drive where everybody lived. You know, we got out in Cedar Springs, out in the country. But Hunter. And we deal with this somewhat here, but because there's two of us, we can usually navigate it. Hunter has ordered a kitchen table on Amazon.
Betty Lou Bussy
Right.
Bubba
Terry Crutchfield, who was our realtor in that and a good friend of yours and ours. Family friend. She gave Hunter a gift card and he used it to buy kitchen table that he'll have to put together. Well, guess what? It requires a signature.
Betty Lou Bussy
Yeah. Which.
Bubba
And you can't. You can't just sign and leave it on the door. Not that kind of signature. It requires somebody to sign for it. Well, he works nine to five every day and they won't deliver on Saturday. So how in the Hades are you supposed to ever get your dang table?
Betty Lou Bussy
I don't know. But had I known they were going to try to bring it today, I would have put off what I was helping him with, which was in town. I could have been in there and retrieved the table or whatever. We just didn't know. They don't let you know that either? Well, now they did let him know. Supposed to be there, you know, on a certain day. Well, he's not going to be there, and I can't be there either this time. So I don't know. I'm not sure what we're doing. So anyway. Yeah, it's a little frustrating, a little aggravating. So anyway.
Bubba
Well, Betty, well, let's.
Betty Lou Bussy
Nothing that the holiday hotline could solve. Come on.
Bubba
Yeah, really, all we need is a town get together where everybody kisses at.
Betty Lou Bussy
Midnight and like the tree and it's all good.
Bubba
All is good. All right, we're going to take a quick break and come back. We've got one more topic to talk about and we're going to wade into that just a little bit. We want to share with everybody because we need your prayers in this. And we will be right back.
Betty Lou Bussy
1, 2, 3.
Coach Charles Kelly
We'll be right back.
Betty Lou Bussy
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Foreign.
Bubba
We'Re back and I am joined in the studio by my better half. And I mean that with exclamation points. The lovely Betty Lou Hun. How are you?
Betty Lou Bussy
I'm great. How are y'?
Bubba
All? Well, we. I wanted to talk about something else too while I had you. Here we are. The podcast is going great and I want to thank all of you for being a part of it. You are doing great and we want to keep spreading the word. You know, the podcast world has a lot of, I wish we could just, you know, worry about entertaining and doing things, but you know, there's clicks and there's algorithms and there's likes and there's, hey, social media and you got to have all that stuff going. So we're always asking everybody to do that to help us out and we appreciate that. We need everybody that listens to this podcast to tell somebody else about it and try to bring somebody else into the loop. We need to keep those, those numbers growing. But we're, we're on podcast 24 now. Our plan was to get in 40 for the year. Calendar year. I mean, a whole year, not a calendar year because we started in March. So we're a little bit ahead of schedule. And we had some weeks in there that we knew we were going to be gone. Are going to be holidays or something. One of the things we haven't done yet is do a podcast on the boat. Part of that has to do with the weather because every time we go out it rains. Don't really want to get the equipment wet. And like I said, we've got some built in brakes. And I also wanted to take the podcast on the road some. We're not a road show or a travel show, but you know, if we, if we do that when we go on vacation, I think we get to write it off on our taxes. So I think that's important.
Betty Lou Bussy
We're definitely taking this thing then. Yeah, Cayman Islands.
Bubba
Here we come, here we come back. So. But one of the things, and I wanted to let everybody know about this so you could put us on your prayer list coming up in the next few weeks, we may miss a podcast or two because I have scheduled to have a knee replaced. And this is something we've known about since I was 40 years old when I first started taking up tennis. You got me into that. The very first tennis lesson I had, I had stitches in my knee for my first knee scope.
Betty Lou Bussy
Right.
Bubba
And Dr. Lee Mack, I remember that. Yeah. Dr. Lemak told me then he said, enjoy the next few years because you're going to have to have a knee replacement. You don't have much cartilage left then. Well, bouncing around on Tennis Court at 260 will go ahead and grind the rest of that off for sure. And we're at the point now that we've been bone on bone for several years, can't play tennis, can't play pickleball, can't walk through an airport. Okay.
Betty Lou Bussy
It's just not very fast.
Bubba
It's not. Yeah. And I got to stop, you know, and then when you, you can't be active, then you get out of shape, your breath, you know, and it just causes all kind of problems. So we got to get that fixed. And I had put it off and I told you, I said my goal is to put it off till I'm 60, because I figured at 60, you're about dead anyway. You're old and it doesn't matter.
Betty Lou Bussy
So you succeeded. You're now 61.
Bubba
I am. I've made it to 61. So I'm old. I'm almost dead. I'm over the hill. So there's no need to put this off. So we in the next few weeks are going to get a knee replacement. And so we will probably not have a podcast that week or maybe the week after. It just depends how good the drugs are. And we may have a really good podcast. Yeah, yeah, we may. You know, in talking to the doctors and all, it looks like we're going to be on some, some pretty strong stuff there for a week and then they'll kind of taper you off, but. So I may be out of it, but you're going to get to be my nurse again. Nurse.
Betty Lou Bussy
Can't wait.
Bubba
It is great.
Betty Lou Bussy
Four years of nursing school, it is.
Bubba
Great to have a nurse in the family because you always have that medical expert to go to. And honestly, you know, I don't want to be. I'm not an hypochondriac by any stretch. If I, if I was, I would not have had five knee surgeries going on. Six two foot surgeries, a gallbladder removed A tumor on my liver removed. I mean, I've had my. My spill of going to the operating room. Okay, yeah.
Betty Lou Bussy
Yes, you have.
Bubba
I'm not freaked out by that, especially if they knock me out ahead of time. But it is good that. That you're a medical professional, because, like, last time or one of the times, they started giving me an IV with some antibiotic in it. And I told you, I said, hey, Betty, something's wrong. Something's wrong here. And they were like, oh, you're fine. You're fine. And you came over and looked, and I had whips on my face.
Betty Lou Bussy
Yeah, you kind of look like that Fantastic Four guy that turns into that monster guy.
Coach Charles Kelly
Yeah, that looked good.
Betty Lou Bussy
Yep.
Bubba
So, you know, Betty can then go and talk to the nurses, and, you know, she talks the nursing language where they wouldn't. I mean, they didn't believe me that something's right.
Betty Lou Bussy
Hey, we got to get something in here. Some Benadryl or something.
Bubba
And it was on the side away from the door where it started, so they didn't see it.
Betty Lou Bussy
They didn't walk around to that side. I mean, you were, like, normal on one side, fantastic Four on the other.
Bubba
What is that about? How can you be allergic on one side of your body? How does that even work?
Betty Lou Bussy
I don't know. Leave it to you. You can figure it out, though.
Bubba
So, anyway, you're gonna have to put up with me for a few days, and we're gonna take a week off work, and my goal, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna state this publicly, so I will. I will put myself out there, and I have to honor my goal. My goal is to be back up, moving around, be semi normal in seven to 10 days.
Betty Lou Bussy
Okay.
Bubba
That's an aggressive goal, but I think I can do it.
Betty Lou Bussy
You're not going to like me very much because I'm carrying you to therapy and making you do it and things like that. So. Yeah, you know, that'll be here, precious.
Bubba
Yeah. Yeah. Because you don't want to do anything on all those drugs. You know, the one thing. And. And I've been through this with an E. Scopes before. You know, they're real big on how you can bend your knee. Oh, we got to have the little protractor and tell you how many degrees. You know, I want them to check it before they do it and see what my range of motion is, because I have rather large calves and I have large thighs, and they run into each other. I can't move my knee as much as some people can.
Betty Lou Bussy
Large calves and large thighs.
Bubba
Well, look at them. You know, that's true. Look, you know, and if I was skinny, I had long skinny, like, sure, you fold them up under you like nobody's business, but mine run into each other. It's like me trying to bend over with a gun.
Betty Lou Bussy
The fat. You know what I mean? If that's what you're saying, or whatever.
Bubba
You know, it folds fat and fold.
Betty Lou Bussy
Well, I don't know.
Bubba
It's like trying to cram two pillows together.
Betty Lou Bussy
You sit on your legs, you know what I mean, with your feet up under you, it would all fold.
Bubba
Yeah, but you should. But not all of them would fold the same. That's what I'm saying. You're exactly right. If I had long skinny legs, they would fold up more than if I had big, powerful thighs. Like, I have legs of a dancer. Some people say that my legs.
Betty Lou Bussy
I'm not sure what type of dancer, but anyway, yeah, all right.
Bubba
My legs are what got you to begin with. Can you tell me that one time?
Betty Lou Bussy
Those legs.
Bubba
Well, I'll be honest, yours got me.
Betty Lou Bussy
All three foot of them.
Bubba
Well, they're a pretty three foot.
Betty Lou Bussy
Oh, oh, I hear the puppy now.
Bubba
Sounds like somebody's breaking in the house here is.
Betty Lou Bussy
Must be prancing around the front yard because they are like, come look at this.
Bubba
So anyway, long story long, we're going to be getting a knee replacement. Please keep me on your prayer list. I believe in that prayer. I mean, I know when I've been in the hospital before and we were on the radio and the guys would come on and say something at 6:00'. Clock, I mean, I. It was like an IV started. I could tell it.
Betty Lou Bussy
It is a peace that transcends all understanding.
Bubba
You are certainly correct. You are so correct, you great Christian woman and godly w life. Proverbs 31. You are correct. And I could just feel it, you know. So I need that again. And we'll be updating you on that as we go. Maybe we can get a few podcasts in the can. Nobody will ever know the difference, but maybe so. We'll see.
Betty Lou Bussy
I'll come up with something to talk about, you know.
Bubba
Yeah, people are still wanting Betty. Say what?
Betty Lou Bussy
And, well, y' all are keeping me busy over here. Over it is lake.
Bubba
And can I tell you, it's been a busy year. We got a lot going on at Jack State. We got a lot going on the podcast. Jack State fills up the day, the podcast fills up the night. And of course, your busy schedule with pickleball telling you all the things got.
Betty Lou Bussy
To clean up around here every now and then. Take care of the dogs, the pups.
Bubba
What is that exercise class you go to? It's got a funny Tabata. Tabata. Tabata.
Betty Lou Bussy
And it's basically what that sounds like to me.
Bubba
Some new offering from Taco Bell right now to Taco Bell. Drive through Tabaca or what is tabata?
Betty Lou Bussy
Sounds like a Star Wars. Yeah, we get no Tabata. There you go.
Bubba
All right.
Betty Lou Bussy
Two, three. Tabata.
Bubba
Thank all of you for being part of bubba on the lake. We've enjoyed it. We hope you did. And lord willing, we'll be back with another episode soon. Thank you for coming in, honey.
Betty Lou Bussy
You're welcome. Good to be here.
Bubba
Remember, being on the lake is not necessarily a location, but a state of mind. God bless and thank you.
Coach Charles Kelly
You're listening to Bubba on the lake.
Bubba
Hit me bad. A production of intergalactic pants and tees.
Betty Lou Bussy
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Bubba
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Betty Lou Bussy
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Podcast Title: Bubba On the Lake
Episode: #24 Coach Charles Kelly, and a New Knee
Release Date: July 31, 2025
Host: Bill "Bubba" Bussey
In the 24th installment of "Bubba On the Lake," host Bill "Bubba" Bussey welcomes Coach Charles Kelly, the newly appointed head coach of the Jack State Gamecocks. This episode offers an in-depth exploration of Coach Kelly's illustrious career, his coaching philosophies, and his aspirations for the Jack State football program. Interspersed with engaging dialogues and personal anecdotes, Bubba provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of what Coach Kelly brings to the table.
Early Influences and Auburn Beginnings
Coach Kelly begins by detailing his roots in Southeast Alabama, where his father served as a high school football coach. Growing up amidst the rigors of football seasons, Kelly developed an early passion for coaching. This passion led him to Auburn University, where he walked on to the football team under the mentorship of Coach Terry Bowden and Defensive Coordinator Wayne Hall.
Coach Charles Kelly [10:53]:
"I walked on at Auburn, which was one of the toughest things, but I'm glad I did it because I wouldn't be where I am right now."
His tenure at Auburn was marked by significant achievements, including winning two national championships—one with Florida State and another with Alabama—before embarking on his current role at Jack State.
Learning from the Best
Throughout the conversation, Coach Kelly elaborates on his diverse coaching experiences across various institutions and under renowned coaches. He emphasizes the invaluable lessons learned from each stint, shaping his holistic approach to coaching.
Coach Charles Kelly [28:27]:
“Coaching for Coach Saban, they said, what was he good at? He was good at everything. Everything.”
Working under legends like Nick Saban at Alabama and Jimbo Fisher at Florida State, Kelly absorbed strategies and leadership qualities that have defined his coaching methodology. His roles ranged from defensive coordinator to special teams coordinator, providing him with a well-rounded perspective on the game.
Focused Recruitment Strategies
A significant portion of the episode delves into Coach Kelly’s approach to recruiting. He shares a pivotal story illustrating the importance of aligning recruitment efforts strictly with football talent, rather than deviating into other sports disciplines.
Coach Charles Kelly [17:53]:
“He reminded me that we weren't recruiting a basketball team. We were recruiting football players.”
This anecdote underscores his commitment to maintaining a clear and focused recruitment strategy, ensuring that every player brought into the program is dedicated to excelling in football.
Emphasis on Player Development
Beyond recruitment, Coach Kelly highlights the necessity of continuous player development. He believes that nurturing talent and fostering discipline are paramount to building a successful team.
Coach Charles Kelly [30:56]:
“What separates the great coaches from the good coaches, is when you do that now, you got to develop. You got to develop your coaches, you got to develop your support staff, you got to develop your players.”
A Personal Victory
One of the most riveting segments of the podcast is Coach Kelly’s recounting of leading his team to a national championship victory against Auburn, his alma mater. This game symbolizes both professional achievement and personal fulfillment.
Coach Charles Kelly [21:18]:
“It was a surreal moment for me as anything that's ever happened in coaching.”
He describes the intense preparation, the strategic execution—including a crucial fake punt that shifted the game’s momentum—and the overwhelming emotion felt upon securing the championship.
Strategic Decisions Under Pressure
Coach Kelly provides a deep dive into the tactical decisions made during the game, particularly focusing on special teams' plays that proved instrumental in their victory.
Coach Charles Kelly [24:18]:
“We went with the fake punt first. We actually had another one planned for later in the game because nobody ever fakes two in a game.”
These decisions, he explains, were a testament to the meticulous planning and adaptability of his coaching staff, ensuring their team remained unpredictable and resilient under pressure.
Building a Competitive Program
As the new head coach of Jack State, Coach Kelly outlines his strategic vision aimed at transforming the Gamecocks into a formidable force in college football. His plan encompasses both offensive and defensive enhancements, emphasizing speed, discipline, and aggressive play.
Coach Charles Kelly [35:59]:
“When people watch us play, I want them to say, man, these guys are fast, they're physical, they're tough, they are disciplined, and they will compete.”
Balancing Traditional Strategies with Modern Football
Acknowledging the evolution of college football, Coach Kelly balances traditional strategies with modern innovations to keep the team competitive. He stresses the importance of a well-rounded offense that can both run and pass effectively, complemented by a stout defense capable of relentless pressure.
Coach Charles Kelly [37:50]:
“If you do all of those things, you'll win all the games you're supposed to and some of them that you're not supposed to coach.”
Influence of Coaching Legends
Coach Kelly attributes much of his leadership style to the influences of his predecessors, particularly emphasizing the comprehensive knowledge and adaptability he learned from Nick Saban.
Coach Charles Kelly [30:56]:
“Coach Saban was a master at everything. He understood what he wanted and had a knack for making everybody in the building push in that same direction.”
Fostering a Collaborative Environment
He believes in creating a collaborative environment where every team member, from players to support staff, is aligned with the program’s goals. This approach ensures that the team operates seamlessly, maximizing their collective potential.
Navigating Personal Health
Towards the end of the episode, Bubba discusses personal matters, notably his impending knee replacement surgery. This segment adds a personal touch to the podcast, showcasing the camaraderie between Bubba and Coach Kelly.
Bubba [54:36]:
“We're going to be getting a knee replacement. Please keep me on your prayer list.”
This candid conversation highlights the human aspect behind the professional facade, resonating with listeners who may be facing similar challenges.
Episode #24 of "Bubba On the Lake" offers a compelling blend of professional insights and personal anecdotes, painting a vivid picture of Coach Charles Kelly’s journey and vision. From his grassroots beginnings in Alabama to leading a national championship team, Kelly’s story is one of dedication, strategic brilliance, and unwavering passion for football. As he steps into his role at Jack State, listeners are left with a sense of anticipation and excitement for the future of the Gamecocks under his leadership.
Notable Quotes:
Coach Charles Kelly [10:46]:
“I walked on at Auburn, which was one of the toughest things, but I'm glad I did it because I wouldn't be where I am right now.”
Coach Charles Kelly [17:53]:
“He reminded me that we weren't recruiting a basketball team. We were recruiting football players.”
Coach Charles Kelly [21:18]:
“It was a surreal moment for me as anything that's ever happened in coaching.”
Coach Charles Kelly [28:27]:
“Coaching for Coach Saban, they said, what was he good at? He was good at everything. Everything.”
Coach Charles Kelly [35:59]:
“When people watch us play, I want them to say, man, these guys are fast, they're physical, they're tough, they are disciplined, and they will compete.”
Bubba [54:36]:
“We're going to be getting a knee replacement. Please keep me on your prayer list.”
"Bubba On the Lake" continues to deliver engaging and insightful content, with Episode #24 serving as a testament to the podcast’s commitment to showcasing diverse perspectives. Coach Charles Kelly’s interview not only sheds light on his impressive career but also offers listeners valuable lessons in leadership, strategy, and personal growth. As Bubba navigates his own personal challenges, the episode beautifully balances professional discourse with heartfelt conversations, making it a memorable addition to the series.