#43 Sit down interview with Kathrine Robertson, Hunter recaps the Natty

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bubba On the Lake #43 – Sit Down Interview with Kathrine Robertson, Hunter Recaps the Natty

Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Bill "Bubba" Bussey
Guests: Kathrine Robertson (Attorney General candidate), Hunter Bussey (Sports Contributor)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Bubba On the Lake" weaves together local flavor and in-depth discussion. Bubba sits down for an engaging and candid interview with Kathrine Robertson, candidate for Alabama Attorney General, delving into her background, campaign, key political issues, and the core values shaping her run. The episode then pivots to sports as Hunter Bussey joins to recap Indiana Hoosiers’ historic national championship victory and break down other sports news in Bubba’s signature light-hearted, conversational style.

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Key Segments & Timings

1. Opening: Bubba’s Anecdotes and Lake Life [00:00–07:37]
2. Interview: Kathrine Robertson, AG Candidate [09:34–41:10]
3. Sports Recap: National Championship and More with Hunter Bussey [43:39–51:53]
4. NBA, Auburn Players in the Pros & Indoor Golf [53:07–60:35]
5. NFL Injury Update & Closing Banter [60:43–63:44]

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Bubba’s Lake Life and Recent Happenings ([00:00–07:37])

• Personal Stories and Lake Observations:
  • Bubba opens with gratitude, listener emails, and a lighthearted debate about calling the show "The People’s Podcast”.
  • He shares hunting stories, including narrowly avoiding taking down a nine-point buck and a humorous retelling of a deer–truck collision:

    “My truck looks like a big mouth bass. All the sensors are screwed up...I’m shocked the airbag didn’t go off, honestly.” (Bubba, [04:01])

  • Bubba recounts spotting a buck standing out in the shallow lake, musing about deer behavior and local wildlife drama—complete with a Loch Ness Monster joke.

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Sit Down Interview: Kathrine Robertson, Attorney General Candidate ([09:34–41:10])

Background and Motivation

• On Entering the AG Race:
  • “It wasn’t in my ten-year plan, my five-year plan, and barely my one-year plan, but...I know how to run this place. Why not?” ([10:48])
• Career Highlights:
  • Chief of Staff to the current AG for nearly a decade.
  • Deep Alabama roots:

    “My family’s been in Alabama for 200 years. Longer than Alabama’s been a state.” (Robertson, [11:36])

Personal Side: Selma, Sports, and Pickleball

• School Days:
  • Attended Morgan Academy (“Go Senators!”) and went on to Auburn, then Alabama for law school ([12:01–12:17]).
• Athletics:
  • Played basketball, tennis, track (“Benefits of a small school, you got to do a little bit of everything.” [12:34])
  • Claims tennis left her “decent” at pickleball:

    “My tennis background, I can normally dominate...I’m pretty decent at pickleball.” ([13:45])

Legal Philosophy & Major Issues

• Role of AG:

  • The office handles everything from criminal justice to constitutional defense, with public safety always at the fore ([17:09]).
  • Describes herself as “addicted to it” due to the fast pace and impact ([17:01]).

• Governance and Law Interpretation:

  • AG “states the state’s legal position in court documents, in federal court, at the United States Supreme Court—there’s not a whole lot of room for rhetoric and talking points.” ([18:49])
  • On unpopular laws:

    “There are times where people don’t like the way you read laws and you say, well, that’s why you got to go to the legislature and get it changed. That’s not our job.” ([19:58])

• Supreme Court & Ideology:

  • Notes increasing partisanship:

    “What you’ve seen in the last decade is that...it’s just become a lot more ideological...By and large, you know how cases are going to break down...” ([21:35])

  • Anticipates SCOTUS decision on gender and sports:

    “There’s just no way an intellectually honest person could believe our laws or our Constitution were ever meant to permit that...” ([21:55])

Women’s Sports and Cultural Topics

• Transgender Athletes in Women’s Sports:

  • “Sometimes you have to take a step back and just go, what are we doing?” (Bubba, [22:58])
  • Robertson sees it as “the virtue signal that went too far...[Democrats] never even meant for it to go this far because it’s such a losing issue for them.” ([24:32])

• On the State’s Civic Identity:

  • Warns of becoming politically complacent:

    “Alabama is one of the last states in the country that really has a truly conservative constituency...We’ve got to be vigilant in making sure we don’t become Georgia.” ([38:39])

  • Advocates for new generational leadership, emphasizing the importance of “the best of the best” serving in government.

Family and Sacrifice

• Personal Sacrifices:

  • “At least at the time I left my house, I still have a husband. Campaign is rough.” (Robertson, [28:48])
  • Candid about balancing family and political life, viewing public service as a calling:

    “The Lord gives you a set of skills for a reason...It’s a difficult season for a young family, but it’ll be over in six months.” ([29:29])

• Comparisons to Pam Bondi:

  • “I have been called Alabama’s Pam Bondi, and that ain’t...Not a bad thing at all.” ([31:39])

National Issues: Law Enforcement and Foreign Policy

• ICE Controversy:

  • Critiques Democratic pushes to defund ICE:

    “There’s a group of people in America that have a loud platform that just fundamentally don’t understand what our country was even built on...When you don’t believe in the rule of law, everything falls apart.” ([27:08])

• Venezuela Drug Cartel “Capture”:

  • “Venezuela under his leadership has been a huge problem for the United States...I completely support the President.” ([32:50], referencing recent events)
  • Defends legal authority and extradition as standard for criminal indictments, regardless of international borders ([34:26])

Closing Pitch to Voters

“If you have an opportunity to vote for somebody that has no need for on the job training and can just take that baton and run with it on day one, then I’d suggest that’s what you ought to do.” (Robertson, [40:39])

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Sports Recap with Hunter Bussey ([43:39–51:53])

College Football National Championship

• Indiana Hoosiers’ Storybook Season:

  • “Congratulations to the Indiana Hoosiers. What a great championship game... in this current era of college football.” (Bubba, [43:39])
  • Hunter highlights the improbability and scale of Indiana’s 16-0 season:

    “He [Texas coach Sarkisian] said he doesn’t see anyone going 16-0 in this current era...Then Indiana turns around and proves him wrong. It aged like milk.” (Hunter, [44:08])

• Cinderella Narrative:

  • Indiana previously the losingest team in D1, but under Kurt Signetti, they experienced a stunning reversal—no five-star recruits, just “five-star mentality.” (Bubba, [48:37])
  • Quarterback Mendoza’s story: denied by Miami, his hometown school, but led Indiana to a title in Miami—“It’s unbelievable, it couldn’t get any better...” (Bubba, [47:04])

• Game Analysis:

  • Defensive standoff early, explosive plays in the fourth.
  • Discussion of fandom, ticket costs, and the surging Indiana fanbase.

NCAA Format and Parity

• On Playoff Expansion:
  • Bubba suggests that “conference championship should be the first round,” making regular season games more meaningful ([50:05]).

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NBA Updates and Auburn Stars ([53:07–56:53])

• Current NBA Landscape:

  • Thunder pegged as the best team; Warriors struggling without injured stars ([53:07]).
  • Steph Curry as a generational talent, but hindered by aging support.

• Auburn Alumni in the NBA:

  • “Dylan Cardwell showing out for the Sacramento Kings... Jabari Smith playing with KD...” (Hunter, [55:50])
  • Janai Broom’s breakout 50-point night in the G League ([56:14])

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Unique Sports and Fun Segments ([57:35–60:35])

• Indoor Golf/TGL League:

  • Bubba’s introduction to “tgl”—indoor golf played in a football stadium with simulators and real greens:

    “Tiger Woods played in it. He is one of the coaches-slash-players...” (Bubba, [59:07])

  • Hunter describes teams, format, and merch: “If you want that merch, shout out Joe Stevens, he can hook you up.” ([59:35])

• Putt Putt Nostalgia:

  • Anecdotes about family championship traditions and the hope to see televised putt putt’s return.

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NFL Update: Bo Nix Injury & Auburn QB Lineage ([60:43–63:06])

• Bo Nix Injury:

  • “What a terrible, terrible injury…we wish him a quick and strong recovery. And his backup quarterback is another Auburn QB, Jarrett Stidham.” (Bubba, [61:19])

• Auburn Connections:

  • Hunter’s good-humored offer to loan his ankle to Bo Nix:

    “You can have my ankle, I’m not doing anything important with it...” (Hunter, [62:19])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Modern Law and Politics:

  “It’s a little more serious of a role, because…you are stating the state’s legal position in court documents, in federal court, at the United States Supreme Court—there’s not a whole lot of room for rhetoric and talking points.” (Kathrine Robertson, [18:49])

• On NCAA Cinderella Story:

  “They did not have any five-star players. No, but they had five-star mentality. They had a five-star work ethic.” (Bubba, [48:37])

• On Women’s Sports Controversies:

  “Sometimes you have to take a step back and just go, what are we doing?” (Bubba, [22:58])

• Personal Humility:

  “At least at the time I left my house, I still have a husband. Campaign is rough.” (Kathrine Robertson, [28:48])

• Sports Humor:

  “My dad spent my college fund to be here!” [Hunter describing a fan sign, [52:16]]

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Closing & Contact ([64:43])

• Bubba wraps with gratitude, encouragement to subscribe, and excitement for upcoming boat show events.

“Until we sail into port again, remember: God loves you and we do too. Thank you for being a part of Bubba on the Lake.” (Bubba)

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Transcript

[A]

This podcast is brought to you in part by Russell Lands Coke, Buffalo Wild Wings, Southern Immediate Care Guaranteed Labels, Central State Bank, Sunrise docks, bankers Bounty, Dr. Thomas Dudney and the Green Monster Fishing Light. Now back to Bubba on the Lake. Hey, it's Bubba. Hey, Bubba. Bubba. Bubba on the lake. Bubba, Bubba on the lake. Yay's got it going on. Gotta come and check this. Talking people, talking places, Bubba's perspective. Bubba, Bubba, Bubba on the lake Ain't Bubba, Bubba, Bubba, Bubba on the lake. Let's go. Hello again everybody, and welcome to Bubba on the Lake. I'm your semi retired, mostly washed up host, formerly of the Rick and Bubba show, and I want to welcome you to Bubba on the Lake, man. We're broadcasting here from the Meliella studio and we have got a great show for you today. We're going to. We always say this program is about people, places and perspectives and we're going to introduce you to a person today that you may or may not know. Her name is Katherine Roberson. She is a candidate for Attorney General of the state of Alabama. And I met her and invited her on the podcast and we're going to have a conversation with her and you'll get to know a little more about her. Want to thank everybody for your emails. We've, we got a, we got a funny email I wanted to, to read to you. It's, I'm going to paraphrase some of it here, but it's from Whitney in Huntsville, Alabama and she says, Bubba, basically I had doubts about you hosting the show. I know that you've been part of a team for a long time, but you're doing a great job. I appreciate that, Whitney. Thank you very much. She said she's really enjoying the podcast, she said, and it's grown on her. She, she says that she really is looking forward to each week till it to it coming out. And she had a suggestion. We need to call it the People's Podcast. And I thought that was great, by the way, Whitney. Thank you. So maybe we should call it Bubba on the Lake. Subtitle the People's Podcast. I kind of like that. I really do. So we'll, we'll keep that in mind. We've had a crazy week. Got to go hunting for the first time this year. Got out and I really wasn't, you know, all fired up to harvest anything. I just wanted to see if I could get out there and get in it again and boy, we saw a lot of stuff. It's the rut here where we live this Time of year and boy deer were just running everywhere. I saw a big nine point chasing does and had him in the scope, had the safety off. And I thought, you know, do I really want to mess dinner up by having to go and, and bring this in and, you know, carry it to the processor and all that stuff. And I was more hungry than I was after the deer that day. So I let him go. He was busy helping the population, so we let him go on that. But it was just great to be out there again. Now I did get a buck. Some of y' all saw that on social media. I was coming down a road going about 45 miles an hour in a stream of cars, some in front of me, some behind me. And first thing that. So I was, I was really paying attention to the cars in front of me, as you should when you're driving. And the first thing I saw was horns sticking up above the hood of my truck. Now I'm driving a Ram 3500 dually. So this is a big truck for horns to be sticking up above the, you know, the hood. That's a big deer. And of course he ran right into me. And I don't. People say, well, did you stop? I said, no, I couldn't. I had cars behind me. There wasn't a place in the road to stop. It's just a two lane road. So I had to go up a little ways and pull over and I got out to inspect the front of my truck, you know, with fingers crossed and oh my goodness, just tore it a good one. My truck looks like a big mouth bass. All the sensors are screwed up. They were going off. I had to cut them off. And I'm shocked the airbag didn't go off, honestly. And I'm afraid to drive it now. Some of my friends have told me, said you, you could hit a bump and airbag go off because all that stuff's damaged on there. So, you know, you can't win. Some days you just can't. So we're going to have to get that fixed. And we're going to call Boss Motors, one of our sponsors here that's also a Ram dealer. So that come in handy and we'll try to get that fixed. And then I come in here and I'm, I'm working in my little studio. I look out the window and I see a big buck standing out in the middle of the lake. And I thought, well, that's odd. When I first saw it, I thought it was a bush because of the horns. You know, something sticking out. And I went closer and looked at it and I put some of those pictures on social media. You may have seen those. But it just looks strange. He was out there in a shallow part where there's buoys and you know, the water's seven foot down right now, so those things wouldn't be an issue when it's, you know, the lake's full. But it was, it was just strange because, I mean, it was 100, 150 yards from shore. And you know, we knew the deer were in the rut. So I don't know if he chased a doe out there. He thought he saw a doe, he smelled the dough. I don't know what he was doing in the middle of the lake. So I took some pictures, actually took some video too. And I came back in to text some of my neighbors and I went back out and he wasn't there. So I don't know if he swam off, he drowned. I don't know what, what happened. But deer are very good swimmers, by the way. They are not intimidated by a lake at all. But we live on kind of an island with limited access land wise. So some of them here become pretty good swimmers if they won't leave. But I just thought that was weird. And then some of the pictures as you guys started commenting on it, it does kind of look like a lock. That's monster shot. Oh me. So we've had a lot of fun with that. Don't know where he went. I hadn't seen him on any cameras around the house here. So we'll, we'll keep looking for him. I'm sure he's out there somewhere, but just a strange week. Very strange. Great show coming up. Catherine Robertson is going to be with us. Hunter Buss. He's going to check in to talk sports. We had a national championship game Monday night and he's, he also was showing me a new sport that I had never seen before called indoor golf. And we're not just talking about a bunch of ragtags. Tiger Wood is in this though. It's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's the real deal. So we got that. And we'll have some other things coming up too. So we're going to get started without any more delay. Thank you for being part of Bubba on the Lake and I think you'll enjoy our show. We'll be right back in just a minute with Catherine Robertson.

[B]

One, two, three.

[A]

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[B]

Hey, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.

[A]

Well, we're glad to have. It's a pleasure. I met you at a Jack State game not too long ago and we talked about getting together and trying to visit a little bit and talk about your campaign and hey, you made it out today.

[B]

Here we are. Here we are. Not much of a sacrifice to come to Lake Martin, I'll say.

[A]

Well, it's, you know, there's better days to be here when it's a lot warmer and you can get on the boat and do the, do the podcast on the pontoon. I always like that. We did have a little excitement this morning. We had a deer out in the water out here and it got out as a big buck and got out to a shallow point and just stood there and I saw it this morning. I thought, well, I wonder what his plan is. I don't, I don't know if he was chasing a doe or just went for a swim or what.

[B]

We need to go out there and check on it.

[A]

Well, I came back in for a minute and I was texting some people the picture and I went back to the window and he was gone. So I guess he swam back. You know, they, they'll do that every now and then.

[B]

Well, let's go back to one thing you just said there. You inviting me back for a pontoon ride when it gets.

[A]

Yes, absolutely. I'm gonna put it on my co. Absolutely. So I met you at a Jack State game and you told me you were running for office.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

So tell us about your campaign a little bit.

[B]

Yeah, well, I like to say that it wasn't in my ten year plan, my five year plan, and barely in my one year plan, but I have served as chief of staff to the current Attorney general for almost 10 years now. And so as our time started to come to a close, he's term limited out. And I thought, you know what, I know how to run this place. I've been around a little bit. Why not? So just been out there working hard and just telling people about, you know, what I've accomplished and kind of what my vision is. And you know, for the most part, I've enjoyed it.

[A]

Well, campaigning is, is tough. That's. I mean, you got a lot of places to go, right?

[B]

Yeah, Alabama's big. You know, people say that, oh, you don't know how big the state is. I kind of thought I did, but you know, there's no straight shot to anywhere really. You know, But I'm a small town girl, so I will say I have very much enjoyed just getting to go places that, that I've never been in Alabama before. My family's been in Alabama for 200 years. Longer. Well, more than that, longer than. Alabama has been a State since 1818. And so I kind of thought I knew everything about our state and turns out there's always something new to learn, so that part of it really is pretty enjoyable.

[A]

So you, you told me you're from Selma originally?

[B]

I'm from Selma, yep.

[A]

So tell me about high school.

[B]

Yeah, I went to Morgan Academy. Go Senators. Great place to grow up. Really enjoyed it. Went to Auburn from there with a lot of my high school classmates and then strangely enough, ended up at Alabama for law school. So I've covered the gamut on the teams.

[A]

So when you were in high school, were you going into law? I guess you're pretty good at school to start with. But were you an athlete? Did you cheer? Did you, were you a band person? What did you do?

[B]

Yeah, I played sports despite my stature at 5 foot 4 maybe. I did play basketball, was a tennis player, ran track and loved it. You know, benefits of a small school. You got to do a little bit of everything.

[A]

Yeah, I knew you were a tennis player when I saw you. I said, that girl's got to be a tennis player. Yeah, she just looks the part. How are you? Pretty good.

[B]

Decent. Yeah, we came in second in the state championship. I won my seed and yeah, I still love it and I don't get to do much tennis these days, but looking forward to get back to it.

[A]

Yeah, my, my joints are not really up. Been able to keep up with tennis, but I love, I started late life. I didn't start Till I was 40.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I sure did enjoy it and we really got into it and ended up coaching a few years. So we had a lot of fun with it. It's a fun sport. I wish it was a little more popular in the US than it is now.

[B]

Everybody's into pickleball.

[A]

Well, and I resisted pickleball for a while and now I've kind of got into it a little bit with my joints wearing out, not having to run so far. And plus, if you want to see anybody here where we live, you better play pickleball or you better have a good car because you're not going to see anybody much because it's a big part of the society here.

[B]

I take a lot of pride in the fact that I don't play pickleball much, but my tennis background, I can normally dominate. I'm just, you know, with all humility. I'm pretty, I'm pretty decent at pickleball.

[A]

So I bet you take somebody out at the net when you.

[B]

Yeah. Take them out the net. And I still got a little speed on me, which is definitely an advantage for people that are used to standing in one place.

[A]

You know, Betty is a real good pickleball player and she played tennis. She's the one who got me into it. But the tennis stuff does translate very well. Special playing doubles, you know, if you know how to do that good and can get in. It's, it's, it's a big advantage.

[B]

My backhand has been my advantage. I do a two handed pickleball backhand.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I don't know if that's the thing, but it works.

[A]

Yeah, well, I think whatever it takes. I mean, if you. Yeah, whatever you need to get it back. So in college, when did you decide you wanted to go into law and do that as opposed to. Because I know we need lawyers and I'm not trying to be lawyer. Negative. Okay. But it just. All that paperwork and judges and court, all that is stuff that most of us want to stay away from.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's fair. My father was a lawyer, so I had a little bit in that, you know, in my background. But. But really there's so much you can do with a law degree. You have kind of the typical route, law firm life, that kind of thing. That was never really what drew me in. But right after college, I moved up to D.C. to work at the United States Department of Justice, just to make sure that I was, you know, picking the right career. And I loved it.

[A]

That was jumping in.

[B]

That was a big jumped right in. So I loved it. And it affirmed to me that I did want to go to law school and, you know, rest is history, I guess.

[A]

So tell us a little bit about working in the Attorney General's office. I know Wes, and, you know, great guy, and he's going to be hopefully moving on to another position. And you guys have done a great job. And I love the fact that he's always very vocal on a lot of these issues and files briefs, and I think reflects the values of most Alabamians. So I always enjoyed that. And I hope you would do that, too, you know, really be active in all that.

[B]

Absolutely. I mean, so Steve came into the AG's office the beginning of 2017. I had been there a little while longer than him, but not much. And, you know, when I think back on the things that we went through as an office, I mean, we were fighting kind of the holdover effects of the Obama administration. Trump won, you know, had a really rocky first term, went into a pandemic, then turned around and had Biden. I mean, you know, you've seen a lot, and that's just the national landscape, not even talking about what's going on in the state. So the AG's office is a fascinating place to practice law, and you can do everything from criminal to civil to constitutional defense, and everything in between. We're the. We're the people's law firm. We're also the state's chief law enforcement officer. And so when you think about the mundane life of some lawyers, you will not find that at the AG's office. So I'm a. I'm an adrenaline junkie, admittedly, and it has been by far the best job I could ever have for myself. Always something new, always something where you feel like you've actually accomplished something. You're not just pushing paper around. And so I love it. I think I'm addicted to it.

[A]

So, like, what are some of the big issues that you have had to deal with and you anticipate dealing with if you're the Attorney general?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, look, public safety is always going to fall to the attorney General. So whether things are good or whether things are bad on the criminal justice front, it kind of falls to you to be the spokesperson on that. And so that will always be, you know, a priority of the office. And then kind of, when you look outside of Alabama, what our role is in the national conversation, the AG's job is to make sure that Alabama maintains its sovereignty over the issues that we're, you know, given to the people from the. From the day our country was founded. And so there's a lot of conflict with Washington. Sometimes even with a friendly administration, there's still a lot of bureaucrats in Washington that want to kind of own the states and emboss us around. And so, you know, those two big picture things will always be, you know, at bottom of what you do as ag, and then the rest is kind of what's going on in the world. You know, is there an opioid crisis? Is there a pandemic where constitutional rights are in jeopardy? Is there. I mean, you know, you just never know, are there going to be boys and girls, sports, you know, you never know what may pop up. So you kind of have the things, you know, you've got to prioritize, and then you got to leave a lot of bandwidth to react appropriately for things that come up.

[A]

How do you balance what the law says or how you inter. Obviously, the law is written and we want to follow the law, but people interpret it very different at times.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And how do you. How do you work that and balance that with what the constituents who voted you in? Obviously, you have a position on it and they support you is the way you get in there.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

But do you ever run into a position where you go, gosh, the law says this, I know it means that, but people are not going to be happy with it. How do you. How do you balance that out that.

[B]

Well, that's. That's a. It's an insightful question, because I think in most political offices, you can pretty much get away with saying anything because, I mean, you know, you're there to represent the people. If they're mad about it, you're mad about it. And you say that the AG's job is very. Because if my boss gets out there and says the wrong thing, he could end up being Cross examined. He could end up being deposed. He could. I mean, and so it is a, it's a little more serious of a role because of that. Because you were stating the state's legal position in court documents, in federal court, at the United States Supreme Court, there not a whole lot of room for rhetoric and talking points. So one thing we try to do at the state level at least, is if there's a law that we know we're going to enforce that's going to cause issues for the people, or there's going to be an interpretation problem, we try to go over there and engage the legislature as they're writing the laws and get ahead of it to the, to a lesser degree. We do that with Congress. I think where the real, the vagueness comes in is when you're interpreting the Constitution and there's a lot of room. You know, you see the Supreme Court, they're all over the map trying to interpret things. And so we just try to take the most conservative, honest interpretation we can. But yeah, there are times where people don't like the way you read laws and you say, well, that's why you got to go to the legislature and get it changed. That's not our job.

[A]

Right. Fix it. You know, And I think for the average American, it is disturbing when they see the Supreme Court always 5, 4 on everything, because these are supposed to be the highest, well trained lawyers we have in the country. They've, they've gone through scrutiny, they've gone through Senate confirmation. And how can they sit there and read the same sentence and see it absolutely opposite? It's, to me, it's like English class.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, in English they would say, this is the rule, but here are the exceptions. So. And I used to make some of my teachers mad. I know you can't believe that, but Catherine. But I would, I would say, well, if it's a rule and there are exceptions, then it's really not a rule. It's just the average. So why are we calling the rule? You know, I bet that used to drive me crazy.

[B]

You know, I think, I mean, I think if we're being honest, there's been a big shift in the federal judiciary all the way down to federal district judges, but certainly all the way up to the United States Supreme Court. And I think, you know, 20, 30, 40, certainly years ago, it was an academic intellectual exercise for the United States Supreme Court to reach an outcome. And you didn't see these wide disparities in the way they were reading law. Certainly they'd have disagreements, but it wasn't all the time. I think what you've seen, especially in the last decade, is that whether we want to admit it or not, just become a lot more ideological.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I mean, you've got Kagan and Sotomayor right now in the United States Supreme Court that wouldn't agree on much of anything that the state of Alabama put before them. Now, there are exceptions to that, but by and large, you know how cases are going to break down based on the topic. And I think. I think this girl sports case that they heard last week is going to be fascinating because there's just no way an intellectually honest person could believe that our laws or our Constitution were ever meant to permit that or to take the power away from the states to be able to prohibit it. But yet I think very few people expect that to be a 9o decision. Now, maybe I'll be wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I just don't think they can bring themselves to taking the right position because they were so ideological. But that's what you get when you have a president, you know, Biden, who put Jackson on the court, who says, you know, we're going to have the first black woman. And, like, I don't care that, you know, this is what I want. And that tells you, you know, he's. He's directing exactly what he wants out of that vote. And, you know, it's not surprising that we're just all over the map when it comes to the United States Supreme Court.

[A]

Let's talk about the women in sports a little bit. To me, see, this is one of those things. I can't even believe we're having this discussion is absolutely. Is it not just silly?

[B]

It is. Sometimes you have to take a step back and just go, what. What are we doing?

[A]

We all are created equal. But men and women are. Have. Have different roles. We're built different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Emotionally and physically. And you can go into surgery and you can fix and add and take away and do whatever you want to do, but it doesn't change the DNA. It's still XX and X, Y. And there's no fix for that. I don't understand why one, a guy would want to play and beat a lot of females and then be proud of it. Now you play tennis. I did, too. We play mixed doubles. I mean, we play men against women and whatever. And it's competitive and you try to win and. And that's a great. It's a great competition. I've been beat by a lot of very talented Females. Okay. That just.

[B]

And I've been beat by some 90 year old men backsp that I can't follow. So. Yeah.

[A]

So I mean it's great competition, but I wouldn't want to line up in a race and, and beat females and then go, well, look what I did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I don't understand it now if you, you know, again, I think that God designed you and, and that's the way it should be. But we live in a free society and if you feel like you need to change or do, fine, but that doesn't allow you to go back and compete.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Against.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What would be a weaker physical person. I mean that's just, that's like letting a grown up go play in the Little League World Series. You know, what am I missing about this?

[B]

You know what I think is the virtue signal that went too far.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's the virtue sick. And I think this issue ran away from the left. Like, I think it just snowballed out of control and then they just couldn't.

[A]

Stop, they couldn't go back.

[B]

It's almost like they never even meant for it to go this far because it's such a losing issue for them, such a losing position. And I got to speak at a rally last week in D.C. and I went back and looked at all these quotes from all these prominent Democrats, you know, five years ago where they were saying, oh, we would never allow this. This sports issue is a red herring. This would never happen, you know, whatever. And it's almost like it got away from them and now they're just having to own it. And, and you see that on a lot of issues, whether it's crime or immigration or now the sports issue, it's almost like maybe we never meant to take it this far, but here we are, we've just own it. And it, it is a such a loser issue.

[A]

And a lot of them, the, like you said, the issues that get out, it gets out of control and if Trump ever takes a position, then they're, they're galvanized and they got to be the opposite. No way around.

[B]

There for crime, there for disease, they're for, I mean, you name it. Yeah, it's a, it's a mess. But this issue is horrible for them. And, and it's, it's fascinating that really almost no prominent Democrats have stepped up and said, you know what, I really just cannot go along with this.

[A]

Yeah. I mean I have a wife that plays sports. I had a daughter that played sports. And, and they're very good at what they do and how they do it. But, you know, again, if you play a mixed sport, that's fine, but it's just. I don't want.

[B]

I don't want basketball, swimming.

[A]

I don't want a guy coming down and playing singles against my daughter in tennis. I mean, there's just. It's just two different things. And women's sport is great. It's competitive, fun to watch. I'd much rather watch the ladies play than I had the men and some of the protests. But it's just. It's just crazy. Let me. Let me ask you about this other issue. And I saw it on the news this morning. Now the Dems are pushing get rid of ice. Oh, yeah, I saw Swartech, the congressman from California, you know, famous for Fang Fang or whatever. Swalwell.

[C]

Yeah, His.

[A]

His little Chinese girlfriend. It was a spy. And he. He's won't. He says he's going to take away their driver's license, take away their protection, immunity for their job, Basically make anybody that works for us a criminal. Now, how do you even stand? I mean, 20 years ago, that guy would have been run out of town.

[B]

They just get away with saying so much. I mean, it reminds me of that video they made recently about, you know, pushing back on their military commanders. You know, it's like. Like there's no bridge that's too far. Eric Swalwell, you know, talks a big game on Twitter or whatever. I'd like to see how that goes down. But, I mean, it's. It does show. If that's what his constituents support, then it shows just this. I mean, I hate it, but it just shows this widening just. There's a group of people in America that have a loud platform that just fundamentally don't understand what our country was even built on and how, or our constitutional system of government. And they don't believe in the rule of law. And when you don't believe in the rule of law, everything falls apart.

[A]

I mean, that's what we're based on. Yeah, I mean, we. We all stand up. They stand up and say, look, nobody's above the law. We don't want any kings this. But then they make themselves kings that are above the law, wanting to break the law and punish law enforcement officers. I just do not get that.

[B]

Well, I mean, this is a guy who's been in the lawmaking body of our federal government and. And has never attempted to, you know, probably get rid of ice or, I mean, you know, like, those conversations would be had in Congress. He Obviously didn't have the votes for that. So he can't just announce that. You know, in California they're not welcome. Federal laws apply across the board.

[A]

Yeah, I mean they just, it's total disregard for the law and I just, I just don't follow that. But. Well, let me, let me ask you another personal question. Tell me about your family. Married, you got kids? How did you make your husband?

[B]

At least as the time I left my house, I still have a husband. Campaign is rough. I met my husband at Auburn. He's an Auburn guy, old football player guy. He has, you know, been great to support me throughout my career. It's been always been wild. But he's a good one, a good country boy. We've got two children. I have a second grade son and a four year old, now almost five year old daughter and you know is. Life is very full.

[A]

Yeah, you, you got all that. You, you could say grace over right.

[B]

Now, but no question. But you know, are you going to.

[A]

Regret this, you think down the line?

[B]

No, I don't think I will. You know, obviously we, you know, sometimes I hate when people run for office, say we prayed about it, but we really did, you know, seek a lot of godly counsel and whether to get into this and, and you know, it was a very slow and deliberate decision and we knew that there are going to be moments where our, for our family, we thought what normal person does this to themselves? But I believe that the Lord gives you a set of skills for a reason, whatever that be, whether that to use them at home or use them out in the workplace or whatever. And my job I think is to try to follow where the Lord has called me. And it's not my job to determine the outcome. That's up to him. But this is a finite period of time. It is a difficult season for a young family, but it'll be over in six months. And so, you know, just doing my best and they're showing me a lot of grace and brought my son with me today. You know, we just fit in family time where we can.

[A]

Well, I appreciate you willing to sacrifice to serve because I really do think that we, a lot of times in our elected officials we don't get the best of the best.

[B]

No.

[A]

Because most people will go pass on that. They don't want to be ragged out on political commercials and your opponents can say anything about you, it doesn't have to be true and just wear you out on tv.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

And so it's, you know, sometimes it's just a no Win situation. But we appreciate people wanting to serve. And I've got to mention this because I almost called you Pam a minute ago. You are a young lady. You have blonde hair, you're very attractive, and you probably get compared to Pam Bondi a lot, who was the Attorney General in Florida. And I didn't mean to say that, but I wrote in my notes that be sure to mention it, and I called you Pam. Do you get a lot of connections with her? Have you met her before?

[B]

Yeah. So Pam was the Florida Attorney General early in my tenure at the Alabama AG's office. And so we've crossed paths a lot. She's been, you know, really great to stay in touch with our group, and we still feel a close connection with her. I have been called Alabama's Pam Bondi, and that ain't.

[A]

I don't think it's a bad thing.

[B]

Not a bad thing at all. I mean, you know, Pam Bondi's around own person. She does not, you know, I feel like she doesn't always wear a black suit and try to be, you know, she is who she is. She's got a fun personality. She's, she's smart, she's spunky, and so certainly not offended by the comparison at all.

[A]

Let me ask you about one other legal issue that I thought was interesting. And when we had first booked you, it had just happened and I was want to get your take on it. The United States went in and got the leader of Venezuela literally in the middle of the night in his pajamas. Him and his wife, they were under conviction for drug laundering and a whole, you know, long laundry list of drug offenses.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I heard a lot of people screaming, that's illegal. You can't do that. He is not the, he is not the correct legal president of Venezuela. He lost the last election and just stayed because he had the guns and nobody else did. So legally. What would you say to somebody that said that was an overstep or that was ill? Do you have an opinion on that?

[B]

I think, you know, first of all, I think anything that Trump does, as we've discussed, you know, there's a, you know, everybody's going to scream and clutch their pearls if they're. They didn't vote for him. I don't think most Americans are bothered by that at all. Venezuela under his leadership has been a huge problem for the United States. And I know that there are lots of different reasons that the administration made that decision, but the drug issue alone, it just cannot be overstated what that has done to Our country. And it is very, very calculated to weaken America. And it has. And when we're sitting here in Alabama, we don't really feel like that affects us in a very direct way, but it really does. If you at our drug threat assessment across the Gulf coast region, and especially Alabama, we live Alabama, the I20 corridor is on the drug trafficking superhighway. And those drugs come from somewhere and they're facilitated through other countries. And so I completely support the President. He is surrounded by good lawyers. You know, whatever he tweets or whatever there are, there are real strategies, multi layer strategies and legal assessments of the things that he does. And I think he's totally in the right.

[A]

So when you just look at it at a legal standpoint, we have a court that puts out an indictment for somebody which gives our government the legal authority to go get them. But if they're in another country, does that matter? Or if they're the leader of the country, are we on any kind of gray area there? Or do you think it's.

[B]

If he's committed crimes against our country and in our country, which his activities certainly have, then there's an extradition process and he'll be treated like any other common criminal that. That's hiding out somewhere else. So I think we're in good shape. I mean, this doj, you know, Pam's at the helm for sure, but I mean, you've got decades and decades of experience. This ain't this in their first rodeo. So I'm very comfortable with what they've done and what they're doing.

[A]

I know some people were upset with this interdiction of the bass boats out in the water, but when you have four big motors like they have, and you have packages covered in plastic and I don't think we're just out there shooting up everybody. I mean, we had, we had intel of where those boats left the dock, what was on there.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Obviously we had a lot of intel inside Venezuela or we couldn't have gone in and got him in his pajamas one night.

[B]

No question. I was in New Orleans a couple weeks ago for the Marine Corps Ball and had an opportunity to just get in conversation with some of the high ranking folks over there. And they said, God, the one thing we just want Americans to know is that we know what we're doing, we know who we're going after, we know why. This is not some shot in the dark. And so, you know, I walked away being like, exactly.

[A]

Let me ask you, after Trump, he's in his final term, J.D. vance, do you think he's going to be our next candidate supporting our conservative values? And can he win? What's your take on him?

[B]

I think he can. I think it's going to be interesting to watch Rubio and Vance kind of, you know, they're working together in the administration, and I think they in some ways maybe appeal to two different groups. I mean, all conservatives, but, you know, JD's a little more populous, Rubio is a little more statesman, and so it'll be interesting to see what happens. But all I'm excited about is just that we're not going to be looking in the wilderness for the next guy. I mean, there's obviously some good talent in the pipeline, some young people in the pipeline, and. But I'll tell you this, I want to see Trump maximize the rest of his term. I mean, it's going to be a fight for the next guy or girl to get there. And, you know, the left just tries every way they can, especially using federal courts to slow his agenda down. And, you know, that's one of the things I thought about when I decided to run, is that, you know, Alabama is going to have a huge regime change in our state. I mean, we're going to have a governor who's brand new to state government, which is not a bad thing. But we are electing a whole new slate of constitutional officers. But our work, you know, at the national level, those lawsuits and those fights, that can't slow down, that can't slow down for a transition. And so I really, I really do believe that the state would be well served by having an AG that could just walk in on day one and just switch desks and keep going, because time is going to be of the essence. I mean, when this election's over, Trump's going to be, you know, halfway through, and there's just a lot more we want to help him accomplish.

[A]

And in our state, it's going to be a generational change. I mean, you know, we. Kay Ivey has been there. I mean, I think I voted for her, like, when I was 18. I mean, you know, she's been in the government a long time. And honestly, it's time for a change. We need the new faces. We need, we do the young ladies and the young men to get involved. And I think there's a lot of them out there. A lot of them may not even have decided to run for an office yet. But, you know, it doesn't matter if it's county clerk or city council or mayor, you Know, we need those people that make those decisions, because school boards, you see some of the crazy things that go on there. That's driving people to the private schools. We've just got to get back to what the basics, you know, what we believe as Christians, as Alabamians. We don't hate anybody. We ain't trying to push anybody down, but we don't want people acting crazy. We want to have safe streets. You know, we want to pay our fair share in taxes, but not somebody else's.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

You know, we. We want to get out and enjoy life, enjoy our football games, our concerts, and not be worried about being killed while we're doing it. I mean, is that too much to ask?

[B]

No, not too much to ask. But sometimes it feels like, I think when I look at our state and sort of the position that we hold. So we. We coordinate a lot with the other Republican attorneys general, so you start to get a pretty good idea of the feel for every state and, you know, whether they have the support of their constituents to take on different issues. And I've started to realize that, you know, Alabama is one of the last states in the country that really has a truly conservative constituency, meaning that whatever the fight is that we need to take on, we can take it on because our people still believe in those things. And the number of states that can take those issues on is. I mean, you see Georgia. I mean, we've more or less lost Georgia's ability to fight hard fights because the politics have changed there so much. And so then when I come back to Alabama after being with that group and I sort of assess where we are, you know, we've got to be vigilant. We have got to be vigilant in making sure that we don't become Georgia. You know, we. We sometimes see Tennessee being a little more moderate. I mean, Alabama can't be that. And it's just what you said. I mean, that means that at every level, local, all the way up to governor, all the way up to senator, you've got to elect people that don't just talk but really get it and are really up for the fight. Because I think Alabama doesn't just stay Alabama on its own. You can't have all this leftist stuff creeping into the schools and the universities and state government and think it's just going to stay the same. You really have to have people that. That really get the moment that you're in. And. And so, I mean, again, that's kind of one of the things that's drawn me into this fight is like I just cannot sit back and watch this happen. I don't think people are paying attention enough.

[A]

Well, we appreciate you taking time to visit with us and we, we probably want to have you back again and hopefully as attorney general have too to talk about issues that are going on. But in closing, what do you want to tell the voters? Why should they pull the lever for you?

[B]

Yeah, look, I think the attorney general's office is one of the most important positions that you'll vote for. Whether you realize it or not, the work we do touches so many aspects of just everyday life. And so if you have an opportunity to vote for somebody that that has no need for on the job training and can just take that baton and run with it on day one, then I'd suggest that's what you ought to do.

[A]

So, Katherine Robertson, you know, that says it all. Thank you so much for being with us.

[B]

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[A]

Hope you'll come back visit again.

[B]

You can count on it. Where's Bubba?

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[A]

Well, we're back, everybody, and we have a new national champion, champion of college football. They wanted on the field. Congratulations to the Indiana Hoosiers. What a great championship game. And to cover that and talk about it, our very own Hunter Bussey on Sports Hunter, how are you doing?

[C]

Hey. Oh, and for the sake of them winning. We got to do it, dad. We got to do it. Three, two, one.

[A]

Oh, was it three? I messed it up. Here we go.

[C]

Three, two, one. Who, who, who, who's yours? Yeah, that was, that was a heck of a game. And the fact they were able to go 16 and oh in this current era. And what's funny, you, it's funny because I saw an actually sent it to a friend of ours, Ryan Brown. It got put on freezing cold takes of Sarkeesian talking to the next round or being interviewed by him. It was on a post that they had saying that he doesn't see anyone going 16, you know, in this current era of college football. Said it at SEC media days this year. Well, then Indiana turns around and proves them wrong. It aged like milk.

[A]

Well, I, you know, I would tend to agree with him at the first of the year. This has been such a unbelievable year for the Hoosiers. And you know, prior to this year, they were one of the most, if not the most losing team in division one football.

[C]

Yeah, they had nothing.

[A]

And they have turned it around under Kurt Signetti. He's only lost two games in two years. Of course, that was last year, but I mean, wow, you talking about a Cinderella story. This is unbelievable. But what a good game. I mean, you had Miami, who barely got in. They were hot though. They had beat some of the best teams in the country to get there. They were playing on their home field. It wasn't a home field advantage because the Indiana fans really became the 12th man. And I know Texas A and M gets kind of of rub raw when you say that, but, but that's what it was. It was a home field crowd for Indiana, it was a tough game. It wasn't a pushover.

[C]

No.

[A]

And it went right down to the last minutes.

[C]

Yeah. And you know, we were watching it. You ended up watching a little bit of in bed. And it was one of those things.

[A]

Where I was trying to stay awake. It was a good game, but I fell asleep.

[C]

Well, the first, the first half, I mean let's say not sugarcoated. It was, I mean it was like 10 to 0, 10 to 3. It wasn't really doing.

[A]

It was a defensive battle. Yeah.

[C]

And then fourth quarter and they started uncorking it. They start taking tops off the defense. They started like doing some gamble plays. Like there was a particular fourth down play that Indiana got and then like turned around like the next possession did almost a mirror play. Same person, same throw. Like it was crazy. And the Mendoza at the end just decided, you know what, I'm going to take it myself and put the team on my back. And he had a Heisman moment, like almost like a, like a confirmed confirmation of like, yeah, I won the Heisman, here's why I won the Heisman.

[A]

Well, you know, so many times the Heisman winner does not do good in the bowl games. People, you know, put target on their back and they're under a lot of pressure and. But he's come through time and time again and what a story. So he's from Miami, his dad played with the Miami coach. He won. I mean he literally just a few miles from the stadium, I think wanted three last wanted to play at Miami and they wouldn't let him walk up own. So he goes to Cal, then he goes to Indiana and he becomes the poster child for the kid who is told, no, you don't have it. And I've told you and I've told other athletes over the years, a coach can tell you anything they want to tell you. But the decision to take that advice is yours. And he made a point that I'm just not going to quit. He had, it was under his control when he quit and he said I'm not quitting because I think I have it in me to do better and do bigger things. And he did and he made good on it. And then what a storybook in you get to go back to play the team that would not give you a chance in your hometown and you make this incredible run to win the game. And I mean we've compared it to a movie, but I've seen people put movie music on that run. I mean it's unbelievable. I mean I mean, it couldn't get any better for that.

[C]

They were, you know, talking to Signetti after the game was over at the trophy presentation. You know, it would make a hell of a movie. It would, it would make hell of a movie. I mean, you went from being one of the biggest loser programs in college football history. He comes from JMU where he had them, you know, winning all the time and then comes to Indiana. I mean, Signetti is doing what, you know, kids my age are doing in college football and dynasty mode. He's taking these nobody schools to the national title game and winning. It's crazy.

[A]

They made it, they made a point of this. They did not have any five star players. No, but they had five star mentality. They had a five star work ethic. So many of the five stars read their own headlines and think they don't have to put in the work. So it can be done with two and three star players and they can be developed. And you know, we're comparing this to a movie. So I'll say this, you know, the Rocky series showed us something that we knew in real life. It's a Cinderella story to become the chains champion. But it's even harder to stay there. Give you clever lane. Okay, Rocky 3. It's, it's going to be interesting to see how that coach Sig bounces back next year when he doesn't have the same quarterback, when he doesn't have the same line and can he continue this? Is this going to be a one and done or is this going to be a five? Stands a song, who knows.

[C]

That's why it's college football. And there's a lot of parody now with this playoff and there talks about expanding it. I don't think they should. They were talking about that before the game even kicked off. If you all watch the whole coverage, they're like talking about how it's being held up right now because of Sankey and the Big Ten.

[A]

Well, what they need to do is make the conference championship the first round. That, that would take care of, of it. Yeah, you would, you would weed out a lot of this eye candy. You know, I, you know, the test they call it when it on the field and that makes the games important during the season, makes a conference championship important. Let's face it, several of the conference championship games meant nothing. No meant nothing. And you go, well, Ole Miss went, you know, to the final four and they wouldn't have got to go to the final Four, right? They wouldn't. Yeah, because you got to win it. On the field. But I will say this for Indiana, they were number one most of the season, and they just carried it right on in. Incredible run. Congratulations to them and their fans. I mean, it was. It was fun to watch.

[C]

Yeah. And we were talking about their fans earlier. Like, it. It wasn't as evident last night as it was in their semifinal game against Oregon in Atlanta. I mean, they were talking on TV, it was like 99 to 1, Indiana, Oregon fans. It was crazy. And then last night, I think they said it was about out. Like, I think it was 80, 20, which is still pretty over, especially in the home stadium. But Indiana travels well. Their president, who they've interviewed several times, great job. She. She has the great mentality of, you know, that you want to have as a president of a university, so.

[A]

Well, she made the point. They have over 800,000 alumni living.

[C]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

That's almost a million for those of you that didn't go to Indiana. And so that. That's. That's a big fan base. And they drove the prices up, no doubt, on those tickets.

[C]

Oh, that's what they were. They were talking about. The average ticket price was what, $4,000? Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think the nosebleeds were 3,600.

[C]

That's insane. That's insane.

[A]

It's stupid. And here's the thing. Can you. Again, can you keep that up? It was a real new thing this year, and people spent their vacation money for next summer going to football games. Well, will they do that again next year? Will they do that? I mean, mean, they run you to the Rose bowl, they run you to Atlanta, you go to Miami. I mean, you're traveling the country every week. It's a. It's a burden.

[C]

The best was the sign I saw of the kid holding up verse like, my dad spent my college fund to be here.

[A]

Something like that was good.

[C]

Oh, man, they need to figure out, though, these dates. Like, they. I saw a post on X this morning saying that the next national championship game will be on January 25th of 2027. That's too late. I'm sorry. You need to have it at least, like New Year's Day.

[A]

Well, we're. We're sitting here on the, you know, on the 20th. I know that's talking about it today after. So it's already pretty late. Well, college athletics, we love it. We can't get enough of it. And, you know, congratulations to the Hoosiers. Incredible year. So let me ask you this. You follow the NBA? What's going on with the NBA. I really don't. Until it gets playoff time, and then I'm. I'm kind of, you know, I kind of wave it at it.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, there hadn't really. The. Probably the best team right now is, to me, is the Thunder. They won it last year. The youngest team in the NBA. I haven't kept up with it as much this year because they just. They've done a kind of a really bad job of promoting it, per usual. All I know is that the team that I follow, the warriors, they lost their secondary star player to ACL terror. So. Yeah. And you're wasting the back end of a career for Steph Curry, which is kind of driving me crazy. But, you know, it's what happened with Kobe Bryant in la. They wouldn't surround him with anybody, and they're like, hey, we got somebody. Who'd you get? Oh, we got Jeremy Lynn. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, you know, it's one of those things that, you know, I hate to see that happen to Steph, but he got a couple rings along the way. That's what someone was talking about.

[A]

They were one of the most exciting teams. I mean, they redefined basketball. Shooting the 3 3. And they probably held on to Greymond.

[C]

Draymond.

[A]

Draymond Green. Spit it out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A little bit longer than they should have because he's been trouble.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, they. They lost some folks along the way, and, you know, you can't. Steph can't do it all by himself.

[C]

No.

[A]

He's an incredible athlete, incredible basketball player.

[C]

But he's a point guard. He's not a center. There's a different level of dominance.

[A]

You go back Michael Jordan, and I do think Michael Jordan's been the greatest NBA player we've ever had.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was fortunate to get to see him play and come into the league play in college. But he had. The thing that made the Bulls so good is he had a support staff around him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he didn't mind giving the ball up because Scottie Pippen, even when he was gone, the Bulls went to the conference championship game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, you know, they had, you know, a lot. They had some really good rebounders. You know, Rodman later on and. And Scotty Pippen was awesome. Yeah.

[C]

Tony Ku coach.

[A]

So, you know, he had help, which made the job easier for sure. And they all stayed together for many years. As opposed to, like, what you see with Kevin Durant, who's jumped all over the place, or LeBron. I mean, I think if LeBron had stayed at either Cleveland Or Miami. He would probably have many more rings and he's got.

[C]

Yeah, I know, I agree. But we are talking about the NBA and we mentioned it some on the. The Barn social hour, which you can find me on Monday through Friday.

[A]

Yeah, we're gonna let you play that.

[C]

And we were talking about the other day how some of the Auburn, former Auburn basketball players are. Especially one particular that no one really saw coming, and that's Dylan Cardwell showing out for The Sacramento Kings.

[A]

Mr. Excitement.

[C]

Yeah. Which I. It's so funny to me watching him on the Kings. And you have some of these players that are kind of the back end of their career, but I'm sitting there watching SportsCenter and Russell Westbrook is throwing off the backboard lobster. Dylan Cardwell. I watched play at Auburn for four years, and I'm watching Westbrook on the Thunder in 2016, which was 10 years ago. I'm like, that just doesn't look right to me. But it's just funny.

[A]

He.

[C]

I mean, I'm happy for him. He's, you know, Dylan's a good guy. I've met him a couple times through church in Auburn, and he's great and glad he's doing well. Jabari Smith is doing really well. He's playing with who we were mentioning before, kd. That's the one he looked up to. And, you know, he calls him his hero. And the draft comparisons, when he was going in the NBA, everyone said he played like him. So, you know, it's working out. Janai had a Janai broom, who y' all remember from Last year's Final Four team, had a 50 burger is what they're calling it in the G League for the Philadelphia Blue Coats, which, by the way, way better name than the actual NBA franchise. I know the 76 years is a legendary.

[A]

I like the seven.

[C]

I know. But like, the Philadelphia Blue Coats is.

[A]

Such a cool blue coat. What does that mean?

[C]

Revolutionary War era stuff? I don't know.

[A]

We were fighting the red Coat.

[C]

Well, we were the Blue Coats. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I've never heard that in history. We were the Blue Coats.

[C]

That's how they depicted movies. I don't know.

[A]

Here's the true measure, I think, of any sports team is the number of guys that go on to the pros and our success. Successful. Yeah. And that shows you the level of recruiting. You saw that with Bruce Pearl and basketball at Auburn. You saw that in football with Nick Saban at Alabama. And that's. That's why they have good college Teams, because those guys can play at the next level. So.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So one other thing before I let you go. I was watching TV here a minute ago, and you introduced me to indoor golf.

[C]

Yeah. The tgl.

[A]

What in the heck is that? Tg. What does that stand for? I don't know.

[C]

I couldn't tell you, but you're my sports guy.

[A]

I need.

[C]

I need to keep up with it more because it looks fun. It's just always on. On a night. Robin has a basketball game or there's always a football game on Monday Night Football, or you never know how long.

[A]

How has this been around? And I never saw it. That's why.

[C]

It's been around for, I think, at least two years now.

[A]

So for people who have not seen it, explain. They. They're on a semi. They're in a.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

They're in a football stadium.

[C]

So just. Yeah, they're in, like, it's in SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles.

[A]

All the matches, as far as I.

[C]

Know, it's sponsored by SO5. And they're always in the arena, and it always has SoFi branding. So I'm assuming. Yes. It's the Los Angeles so 5.

[A]

They start out with a simulator for their drives.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then they work. Yeah.

[C]

They go back to their bag, get their, you know, the clubs that they would need, and then the course flips into, like, what looks like a putt. Putt course.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Which is really cool to me. I like the concept of this.

[A]

This.

[C]

It's like basically 3v3. It's like, almost like. I guess you would call it a scramble. Is that what that would be?

[A]

So, I mean, they were chipping, though. It wasn't just no putt.

[C]

No.

[A]

They had to get up on the green.

[C]

Yeah. Like, wherever the ball lands in the simulator, they place the ball on the green that flips. And then from there, you try to. Yeah. Do the normal, you know, shebang.

[A]

But what do you call this league?

[C]

The tgl.

[A]

But you don't know what it's saying.

[C]

No.

[A]

Tiger woods played in it.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

He.

[C]

He is one of the coaches, slash.

[A]

Players for what team? Because they were different teams.

[C]

It's like the Jupiter, which I'm assuming is florid.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So. Yeah.

[A]

How many teams are in this league?

[C]

I want to say it's six, because they have. If you go to the PGA store for those that listen in Birmingham, the PGA store, they have a booth that, like, has all their merch and everything right there. Yeah. And if you want. And if you want that merch, shout out Joe Stevens, he can hook you up. So.

[A]

Well, you know what I want them to bring back is the putt putt league.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So we used to have that every Saturday. Saturday.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they would play, and these guys never missed. If anybody ever did not get a hole in one, they lost. That's. I mean, it was great. And it was the same crazy things we played. Yeah. You know, with the orange bumpers and, you know, you had to go down and loop de loop and, you know, three levels and. I mean, it was crazy.

[C]

I miss our putt putt championship. Fourth of July trips to the beach at. What was it, Pirates Cove. And then we do it over at the track, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Over there.

[A]

The world championship of putt putt. And so that was. It was like. When we picked that up again, it.

[C]

Was like, me, you. I think the Walkers were with us. Ryan Walker, Travis. Yeah, Travis. And I can't remember who else it would. Whoever's with us on the trip, we'd be like, hey, I want to participate in the world championship. What's that? It's like we just go play putt putt.

[A]

That's right. And the winner gets his meal bought for him.

[C]

Yeah. We'd go to Lulu's or something like that.

[A]

That hunter. Thank you very much for that update. College football is over. It'll be back in August, Lord willing. Won't take long. Real quick, too.

[C]

I'd be remiss if we don't talk about it. The Denver Broncos. Oh, yeah.

[A]

What a terrible, terrible injury that.

[C]

I know. We hate it. It made me sick watching that game. What was crazy is they won and everyone was in good spirits, you know, and they. In. Bo just had this look on his face like, oh, crap. And I'm thinking, what is he like? Nervous? Which he doesn't. That doesn't really happen often for Bo Nicks. If you watch them play.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And you're thinking, what is up with that? And then, like, not even five minutes later, after the game's over, Adam Scheffer puts out. He's out for the year with a broken ankle. And I'm thinking, what the heck happened?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it.

[A]

Second last play of the game.

[C]

I guess they think it was either when he kneeled or whenever he was scrambling to try to get down closer to the, you know, well, field goal.

[A]

It looked like he was trying to line up the kick and kneel down. And it looked like one of the defensive guys pushed the offensive guy back into him. Well, it looked awkward.

[C]

If you go back and watch it.

[A]

Normal yeah, it didn't. And. And he was limping when he came off, but he wasn't in. You know, it didn't look like extreme pain, so it kind of caught everybody off guard. But tough break for Beau. We wish him a quick and strong recovery. And his backup quarterback is another Auburn quarterback, Jared Star at him, which is. He was a quarterback there when they were recruiting both.

[C]

I know, which is just funny. All the pitchers and the parallels with that. It's great. And I hope they. He capitalizes on this opportunity. I think it will be a good opportunity for him and both. You're listening. You can have my ankle. I'm not doing anything important with it, but, you know, I don't know if it'll be as good as what you had, but I'll let you rent it for two games and get a. Get a Super bowl if you need it, buddy.

[A]

But he'll be back. He's a competitor.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And probably back sooner than anybody expects him to be. Yeah. Anyway, we have the AFC NFC Championship winners will go to the super bowl this weekend. And we'll update you on all of that again next week. Hunter Bussey on Sports Hunter. Tell everybody where you. You could be heard.

[C]

Yeah, so I help out now with a show on the Born Auburn. You can find that on YouTube. It is called the Barn Social Hour. It is every Monday through Friday at 7pm Also have my personal YouTube channel. If y' all don't watch me, just mess around on there with some friends. Just look up my name. Hunter Bussy. But other than that, you can go back and listen to the old tailgate. Tailgate show reruns. We'll be back soon, hopefully. Maybe talk basketball, who knows?

[A]

And you're helping produce Bubba on the Light.

[C]

Yeah, so I'm. I got a full plate right now, so, yeah. Found my niche and Dad's, you know, behind me 100%, so it's. It's been a lot of fun. And, you know, we're only almost. I can't believe January is almost over, too. But my birthday is next month. Like, that's SC getting away, so. Yeah. By the way, 28. I turned 28 and I'm terrified.

[A]

Well, we'd like to see you go ahead and, you know, get a cheer.

[C]

I know where you're going with this girlfriend. All right, there it is. There it is. Good night, folks. Y' all have a great night. Y' all enjoy the podcast.

[A]

You're doing a great job. Keep up. Good work, Hunter, and thank you for being with us on Bubba on the lake. We'll be right back in June. Just a moment. It's Bubba on the lake.

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