
With World Cup 2026 underway, hear again how Jude Bellingham became a global brand
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Matt Lyons
Welcome to Business Daily from the BBC World Service. I'm Matt Lines and with the Football World cup taking place at, a star has emerged through the tournament. England's Jude Bellingham. Two years ago during the Euros, I looked into how much his star could rise and just how much his brand could be worth. So the numbers you'll hear mentioned are accurate up to July 2024. Take a listen. Those were the scenes at the Green Duck Brewery here in Stourbridge near Birmingham. It's as Jude Bellingham opened the scoring in England's first game at the Euros this summer. Now that's just a short walk from where I'm stood now, opposite a giant mural to the footballer who was born and raised right here in front of me. I can see Jude painted, looking out in his England kit, surrounded by images from his career, from playing football as a boy to holding up a jersey with his number 22 on it. So what do people here make of how he's done?
Local Resident
You look at players, you think their quality. That is weird thinking. Oh, they're just from around here, aren't they? I don't know what to word, to be honest with you, but I would say I'm very proud of him. I have mates that know him and used to play like Xbox and that of him during COVID Just weird thinking about it. But yeah, he was. He always seems so polite. He's a lovely fellow, really. It is nice to know he's from earlier. So like saying look where he's playing and what he's doing. So, I mean the kid's got, obviously got talent. I think it's good for the area. The more he progresses, the more he's going to look even better for the area. So just wish him all the best and I hope he carries on and hope he gets the, the nurturing he should have. You know, it's always good to see, you know, Stavage getting mentioned on the TV and things like that. So, yeah, I think it's good, it's quite inspiring for young kids and stuff and who are going to, you know, hopefully see his name and try and live up to those kind of like, you know, probably just shows that you can make it. It doesn't matter where you're from, if you're from a small town and that. So, yeah, it's a positive thing. Obviously very jealous. I didn't make it myself but, you know, but no, no, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a great, great thing for us to have.
Matt Lyons
Jude played his first professional game at his boyhood club and full disclosure, the team I support Birmingham City at the age of just 16. We all knew he could be something very special even at that age and it's gone very well since then.
Mina Ruzicki
Today we heard another young English player has signed for Borussia Dortmund. 17 year old Jude Belling will join the German giants at the end of the season.
Scott Smith
Elsewhere, young English superstar Jude Bellingham scored and made a goal as Borussia Dortmund beat Sevilla 4 1.
Mina Ruzicki
Jude Bellingham is now a Real Madrid player. The 19 year old has agreed a
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6 year deal for 88 million pounds.
Matt Lyons
Jude Bellingham continues to impress in La Liga and what a stage to score an injury time winner in the first El Clasico of the season. 13 goals in 13 games now for Bellingham with Real Madrid. Real Madrid's Jude Bellingham has been voted La Liga's player of the season in just his first year in Spain.
Mina Ruzicki
Honestly, I don't think it could have gone any better.
Matt Lyons
Mina Ruzicki European football journalist what it
Mina Ruzicki
really is, is authenticity and I think that's what makes Bellingham so special. He arrives, they ask him about, you know, all the British players that came before him and he managed to list all of them. It's almost like he had come, come in and prepared for the press conferences, prepared for the interviews and that was seen as a huge thing, like, look how much he knows about the history of Real Madrid. He looked like a man who had come in that was determined to learn, that was determined to be part of this club that was so grateful for the opportunity, as opposed to coming in and saying, well, listen, I'm Jude Bellingham. He didn't have any of that. That's what's so nice about him. That and for Spain and I think for continental Europe, is how often he speaks to about his parents. It's something that is so. It's so lovely to see in this new generation. There isn't a moment in which he doesn't refer to his mother as the Queen and talks about how his father was his first hero. Watching him play, all of that just combines to create this, you know, most promising talent, but on top of that, the nicest guy. And you want the nicest guy to be playing for your club.
Matt Lyons
Talk to me about Real Madrid. Just how beneficial has his signing been for them?
Mina Ruzicki
One of the things that they had noticed is that it always pays to have an English speaking talent. Even better if he's actually English, because one of the things they want to target is a bigger audience in Africa. Africa is much more obsessed with the Premier League. They don't really watch La Liga. They don't care for it as much as they care for the Premier League. And I think bringing in an English player, especially one that is considered to be, you know, a breakout star, the future of the English national team, that's helped increase eyeballs when it comes to Real Madrid play playing. There's also Bellingham mania going on in China and LaLiga is obsessed with getting as many Chinese fans as possible, of appealing to different markets as possible. And the great thing about Jude is that he played in Germany, which is the third largest economy. He speaks German because his father encouraged him to learn German while he was in Germany and to try to take his opportunities to continue rounding him out as sort of this perfect package player. Then he moves to Spain, moves to the biggest club in the world. Learning Spanish now, and he already speaks one of the most widely spoken languages the world, the English language. And then that can also increase his appeal in America. So we're hitting all the biggest economies, right. When he was signing on as a player for them last summer, he had around 10 million followers. As of today, he's got 33 million followers. He gained 1 million alone from scoring two goals in the Classico in October. Which just goes to show you how sporting success can also help your brand. It is incredible how merging those two brands helps to elevate both, because Real Madrid want this player so that they can appeal to a wider market. And he also needs Real Madrid to appeal to a wider market because winning helps him grow his brand.
Matt Lyons
So we have a recently turned 21 year old hitting the peak of his career so far. People, brands and sponsors will all want a piece of him. So how do you manage that whilst focusing on your game? One man who knows is John Smith, former super agent turned sports investor who looked after the likes of Maradona.
John Smith
What has to happen is, for a while anyway, it's all about the focus of what happens on the pitch because it very quickly unravels and I'll give you a very good example of that in the current era, really talented tennis player called Emma Raducano, she probably peaked too soon. She won the US Open and everyone thought she was going to be the next Navratilova. Then she got injured. But unfortunately, in the middle of all of this came a raft of very profiled sponsors and a lot of people looked at her and said, yeah, she's just gone for the money now, so. And they switched off, they switched off from her and she's got a mountain to climb to come back, unless she keeps doing it on the tennis court. So Fast forward to 2024 and Jude Bellingham got everything in front of him. He's got good family around him. You've got to be careful that the competitive side of your nature, that is what you do on the field isn't overshadowed by what you are sponsored by off the field.
Matt Lyons
So what does he need around him to make sure that doesn't happen?
John Smith
I think it's Team Bellingham. I think that's the most important thing when you get to be of his status, of his stature. He needs a great lawyer for his contractual work. He needs a good man manager, which I'm guessing is his dad or is certainly his. His family, I still believe, and I guess I would say this, wouldn't I? He needs a good agent with the commercial expertise of knowing how to navigate the football market, the football commercial market. He needs a marketing manager, he needs a very, very good tax accountant and he needs probably a couple of real organizers around him who have connections into the corporate sector and in the banking sector. So beyond that, they need people who will invest that money for long term gain. And that's where he's going to need good advice, particularly good advice.
Matt Lyons
You're listening to Business Daily from the BBC World Service with me, Matt Lynes. Today we're giving you another chance to hear a show from two years ago looking at footballer Jude Bellingham and the value of his personal brand recorded during Euro 2024.
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Matt Lyons
Let's take a look at who's on board the Jude train. Already he's got a deal with Adidas.
Scott Smith
Hello. Yeah, I'm all good, man.
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Scott Smith
I'm chilling at home, relaxing. Nah, nah, I'm staying at home today. Nah, I'm chilling.
Matt Lyons
In fact, they've just launched his very own signature clothing collection with a JB logo based on Jude's own signature. They also paid the Beatles to use hey Jude as part of their Euros campaign, so they're very much behind him. And before that tournament, Jude was seen modeling a pair of skims, Kim Kardashian's underwear brand.
Scott Smith
I'm Jude Bellingham. Everybody's wearing skims.
Matt Lyons
And then there's the likes of Lucas aid and McDonald's, who he's a face for, too. In order to build your portfolio of endorsements, you'll need someone who can gatekeep the requests. That's where someone like Scott Smith, son of John, steps in. He's managing director of Raps Management, who manage the lives and careers of media personalities and sports stars, including Premier League footballers.
Scott Smith
There's always the obvious one, so you can look at boot deals, you can look at fashion deals, music deals, those sorts of things that cross over quite nicely in sport as well. But I think one of the most important things, especially with someone like Jude, is that given the fact that he is a superstar, he will certainly have the pick of brands he wants to work from. And I always think it's important to partner people with things and brands that they're interested in because that's where you'll get the best crossovers and the best activations. I think One of the most important things for someone like Jude is you don't want to be chopping and changing partners throughout his career. You want to be focused on building the relationships you've got very much like David Beckham did with Adidas and a few others. And I think that can be quite a similar pathway for someone like Jude.
Matt Lyons
And so how do you make sure you're only bringing him the right deals? Will he have been given offers from Nike, from Adidas, from Puma, say? Or do you take that decision?
Scott Smith
I would like to think that he would have been shown the offers because presumably every single brand deal would have been at the table. From a boot perspective, going back to your initial question, in terms of how you vet a brand coming through or make the right decisions, the simple answer is sitting down and having conversations with them, making sure it partners up with what he's interested in and what he wants to do, and making sure that they have a long term plan for him. Ultimately, if they're sitting there and creating a vision that isn't right for the player or for Jude in this instance, then it wouldn't be right. But if they're creating something that the player, and again, Jude in this instance buys into and has something that attracts him and, and makes him think, do you know what this is something that I can get involved in, something that I want to be part of and help evolve, then you know, you've got a good catch there.
Matt Lyons
And what are the challenges of managing a young player whose family are so involved?
Scott Smith
I think across sport in general, not just football, but I think across sport in general, we've certainly seen the good and bad of having families involved, we've seen the good and bad of having friends involved. But I think ultimately the biggest challenge is ensuring that the player is happy, the, the player is comfortable, the player feels like they're in a position where they're able to vocalise how they're feeling and what they're doing. If a player is fortunate enough to have that set up on the first bounce, which it does look like Jude has with his family involved, to be fair, then they're in a very positive place. But ultimately, in any walk of life, when there's the opportunity to earn good money across the board, there's always going to be challenges because people want to get involved, people feel like they're entitled to get involved. And ultimately it's up to the player in any walk of life, whether you're of a part footballer, a cricketer, a tennis player, whatever you might be, to make good decisions and have good people around them.
Matt Lyons
And are you helping them build their brand, their Persona and how they come across?
Scott Smith
I think it's more natural to work out who someone is and then give them the opportunity to push that as far as they want to. I think it's very difficult to change someone's personality and to change the way that they are. And I think ultimately if you do that, you might have short term success, but someone can't pretend who they're going to be for a longer period of time. And I think that from a personality perspective, I think it's great that people, you look at the American side of sports, for example, in the NBA and the NFL, people show off their personalities like beyond anything that is even would be considered to be extreme in the uk.
Matt Lyons
And it's not just those in the football industry who are paying attention to Jude. Stuart Dogood is the agent of tennis superstar Naomi Osaka.
Stuart Dogood
You really don't see that many other guys develop businesses like you've seen the LeBron James developer business in the US for example. I would love to see Jude Bellingham be the next guy. I think he's an athlete that could build a LeBron James style business if interested. I think he's the best footballer in the world, so ipso facto the best and biggest athlete in the world at the moment. He speaks well, he seems very humble, seems like a good person, looks like he's well managed. I think his parents do that. He's a good looking boy, so that's good for sponsors. I think he has the whole package. He seems very smart, articulate, extremely impressive to me that he would go and play at Real Madrid rather than a Man City or a Man United or Liverpool. You know, English based players that go off to Europe and kind of learn their trade and experience different cultures seem to be much more rich in their personality than others. So yeah, looks like he has everything if he put it all together.
Matt Lyons
And all this means he's getting the attention of people outside of the world of sports, including a reported deal with luxury fashion brand Louis Vuitton. So why would they be looking at a young sports star as an ambassador? Pauline Brown is a professor at Columbia Business School teaching the business of aesthetics. She's also formerly head of North America for lvmh.
Pauline Brown
The reason that they're going to somebody who's so early in his career is as those stars become more and more global phenomena, they become unaffordable. And a brand like a Louis Vuitton or Chanel or Christian Dior will never be able to, to outbid a Nike, for example, or a big car company. So if they can catch these people before they're megastars, then they're, they're basically getting them, getting them early. The reason that the management teams of those athletes are quick to sign on is because it's us. It actually propels the celebrity brand or the athletic brand much further to align with a brand like Louis Vuitton than a, say a more mass marketed brand like Gillette. So it's really a win, win on both sides. I think David Beckham was probably a forerunner of taking what we hear in the States called soccer and you know, making it something that was as aspirational was more than a sport. All of a sudden it was about who this guy is dating, it was about what he's wearing, what color his hair is this week. Maybe before him it was Agassi who went there as well, broke some rules. But I think we're still in the early stages of bringing athletic prowess and sort of fashion credentials together and looking at sports stars as tastemakers.
Matt Lyons
21 years old, brands clamoring for him, the world at his feet. What should he do next?
Scott Smith
There is a sweet spot with, with any footballer or any sportsman or woman, but any sports person in general where you can go from this superstar who is earning X amount to potentially being this superstar that has then got brands built around them. But I think what has to come first is that you have to have five, six, seven years of really, really solid elite level football behind you.
John Smith
It's not for me to say, it's, you know, the people around him know what they're doing. But from an outsider looking in with a little bit of experience, I would say that he's done extremely well both on and off the pitch at the moment. Personally, I would draw breath now, breathe a bit of oxygen, play a lot of football. He's got a lot of time in front of him. You know, this is just the beginning of the journey.
Matt Lyons
That's it from this special edition written and produced by me, Matt Lyons. It was originally recorded two years ago for the 2024 Football Euros. Thanks again to my contributors. Why not check out our recent episode, FIFA's Billions, which follows the money from ticket sales to host cities for the the 2026 World Cup. You can find that by searching for BBC Business Daily@BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for listening.
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Podcast: BBC World Service
Host: Matt Lyons
This episode of Business Daily explores the meteoric rise of England footballer Jude Bellingham—not just on the pitch but as a modern brand and global superstar. Host Matt Lyons revisits a special feature initially recorded during the Euro 2024 tournament, dissecting Bellingham’s appeal, the ecosystem behind building his brand, and how his journey offers lessons on balancing athletic prowess with commercial opportunity.
This episode offers an in-depth, multifaceted look at how sports stardom, savvy management, and commercial strategy intermingle to create not just a top footballer, but a global brand capable of transcending sport. The advice from agents, managers, and industry experts underscores the essential balance between performance and business—and that Bellingham’s greatest achievements may still lie ahead.