Listen Now: OnlyFantasy

Summary

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Episode: Listen Now: OnlyFantasy
Date: May 21, 2026
Host: Wondery
Featured Voices: Leon Neyfak (A), Gracie Kanan (B), Kayla Parcells (C)

Overview

This episode features a preview of the podcast "OnlyFantasy," a show that dives into the evolving world of adult content, sex work, and human intimacy through the lens of OnlyFans. The central theme is an inside look at the business and culture surrounding OnlyFans creators, focusing especially on the operations of Creators Inc., an agency and "content house" that supports top-tier OnlyFans talent. Through the eyes of journalists and creators, listeners gain a nuanced perspective on the professionalization of online adult content, empowerment, and the new wave of entrepreneurship it has enabled.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Introduction and Context

• Leon Neyfak's Motivation:
  • Leon, a journalist and podcaster ("Slow Burn"), shares his "distant and quiet skepticism" about OnlyFans until his sister joined the platform, sparking a year-long reporting journey.
  • Quote (A, 00:00): “Who was actually using this platform? So when I found out that my own sister had started an OnlyFans account, my journalistic curiosity got the best of me.”
• Gracie Kanan's Perspective:
  • Gracie is an OnlyFans creator and comedian, offering an insider’s point of view.
  • Quote (B, 00:33): "Let's just say I had a different POV on OnlyFans and why people use it. Our podcast, OnlyFantasy is a show about the changing nature of adult content..."

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2. Arrival at the Creators Inc. Content House (Encino, Los Angeles)

• Setting the Scene:
  • The team visits a mansion in a regular neighborhood, revealing the hidden-in-plain-sight nature of digital adult content production.
  • Quote (A, 01:19): "It was the modern Playboy Mansion."
  • The house is described as a "WeWork...with photogenic lighting and a pool" (B, 02:13).

Tour with Kayla Parcells, Co-Founder and COO of Creators Inc.

• Kayla is introduced in "California casual attire" and as someone who usually stays out of the spotlight.
  • Quote (C, 01:56): “Welcome to Creators Inc. I'm Kayla Parcells, co founder and coo.”
• House designed for flexibility and creativity:
  • Quote (C, 02:30): "We can kind of do anything in this space, and just having it be that canvas for what our creators want to do and use their vision and ideas and we make that come to life for them."

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3. Exploring the Business and Amenities

• Day-to-Day Operations:
  • House serves as a professional space for creators—workouts, photo and video shoots, casual gatherings, all with highly curated aesthetics.
  • Quote (A, 02:18): “More than anything, this place was a set designed so that every corner, every room could serve as an attractive backdrop...”
• Luxury and Temptation:
  • Gracie describes the allure of prosperity for creators, shifting the narrative from mere bill-paying to real wealth.
  • Quote (B, 02:50): "...seeing those numbers made me hungry. Not just to make money so I could pay the bills, but for real wealth, like prosperity."

The Spa & Swimwear Brand Pop-Up

• Tour includes a spa (cold plunge, infrared sauna) and a pop-up shop for Creators Inc. swimwear.
• Kayla playfully invites Gracie to participate in a photo shoot, highlighting the blending of work and lifestyle.
  • Exchange (C & B, 04:15–04:45):
    • C: “I thought you were coming to shoot for CI Swimwear.”
    • B: “Oh my God. Could you tell? ...I was so embarrassed how badly I wanted it because it was like one bikini away from being a Creator's Inc. Girl.”

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4. Boundaries and Branding: The "Clean" House Rule

• Explicit Content Rules:
  • Leon bluntly asks if people film sex in the house. Kayla clarifies: sex on camera is “frowned upon,” though nudity is not outright banned.
    • Exchange (A, B, C, 04:59–05:07):
      • A: “Do people film sex here too?”
      • B: “No.”
      • C: “I prefer it that way.”
• Safety and Stigma:
  • Kayla emphasizes the importance of safety and respectability, often inviting creators’ family members to visit and dispelling stereotypes.
  • Quote (C, 05:49): “This is a really wonderful, safe, supported...Fifth wave feminism is what I like to call it.”

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5. The Broader Vision: Empowerment and Entrepreneurship

• Beyond OnlyFans:
  • Creators Inc. aids clients in launching businesses outside adult content—skincare, fashion, even trucking.
  • Quote (C, 06:40): “This is the new Hollywood and basically, you know, if you're going to set yourself up for the rest of your life, like this is your opportunity.”
• Critical Reflection:
  • Leon notes the irony in high-production “authenticity” and how the OnlyFans business culture diverges from one-on-one intimacy toward an industry model echoing Hollywood.
  • Quote (A, 06:47): “Hollywood felt like the opposite of what I thought OnlyFans was supposed to be...here was a factory churning out hyper curated and highly produced images of so called authentic living.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Personal Motivation:
  • (A, 00:00) “Who was actually using this platform? So when I found out that my own sister had started an OnlyFans account, my journalistic curiosity got the best of me.”
• Setting the Business Tone:
  • (C, 02:30) “We can kind of do anything in this space, and just having it be that canvas for what our creators want to do.”
• Creator Mindset:
  • (B, 02:50) “...seeing those numbers made me hungry...for real wealth, like prosperity.”
• On Boundaries:
  • (C, 05:07) “I prefer it that way.” (on not filming explicit sex in-house)
• Business Philosophy:
  • (C, 06:40) “This is the new Hollywood...like this is your opportunity.”
• Critical Insight:
  • (A, 06:47) “Hollywood felt like the opposite of what I thought OnlyFans was supposed to be...”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:06: Introductions: Leon’s personal connection and Gracie’s creator perspective
• 01:07–02:18: Arrival at the content house, initial impressions
• 02:19–03:35: Meeting Kayla, tour begins, day-to-day creator life
• 03:52–04:24: Amenities and pop-up swimwear shoot
• 04:59–05:07: Discussion of what is and isn’t filmed in the house (“I prefer it that way.”)
• 05:49–06:40: Emphasis on safety, respectability, and empowerment
• 06:40–06:47: Discussion of OnlyFans as a springboard for entrepreneurship, the "new Hollywood"
• 06:47–End: Leon's reflection on the nature of OnlyFans stardom

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Conclusion

This episode presents a vibrant, humanizing portrait of the modern adult creator industry—one where luxury, professional support, and entrepreneurial ambition are just as important as sexuality. Through an intimate tour and insightful commentary, listeners are invited to reconsider stereotypes about adult content creation, while also acknowledging the complex, sometimes contradictory, realities at its core.

Transcript

[A]

I'm Leon Nayfak, best known as the co creator of Slow Burn and fiasco. I'm a 41 year old writer, podcaster and dad. I had of course heard of OnlyFans, but always with a distant and quiet skepticism, a silent judgment, you could say who was actually using this platform. So when I found out that my own sister had started an OnlyFans account, my journalistic curiosity got the best of me. And to my surprise, it led me down a year long reporting journey. Luckily, I found the perfect co pilot for this wild ride.

[B]

Hi, I'm Gracie Kanan, OnlyFans creator and comedian. Not Leon's sister, I might add. Let's just say I had a different POV on OnlyFans and why people use it. Our podcast, OnlyFantasy is a show about the changing nature of adult content, sex work and human intimacy itself.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, it's definitely that house. Which is funny because it's like all the houses around it are just regular ranch homes.

[A]

Last summer, our team flew out to Los Angeles, the home of the adult entertainment industry.

[B]

Look at that.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

It's all black.

[B]

That is not discreet. And in this moment, we were pulling up to a huge house in the middle of an unassuming neighborhood in the Valley. To anyone not in the know, it might have looked like any regular old mansion, but to me, it was the modern Playboy Mansion. We're here, Creator Z.

[A]

When we walked up to the house, we were greeted at the gate by a woman in California casual attire, pink jean cutoffs, Doc Martens, and a Creators Inc. Baseball cap.

[B]

And don't forget the most important LA accessory of all, a dazzling, perfect smile.

[C]

Welcome to Creators Inc. I'm Kayla Parcells, co founder and coo.

[A]

And where are we, Kayla?

[C]

We're at our content house here in Encino, California.

[A]

Creators Inc. Is an agency that represents some of the most successful creators on OnlyFans. And this was their content house.

[B]

Imagine a wework, except it's a mansion with photogenic lighting and a pool.

[A]

A pool that no one was actually swimming in, by the way. Which was telling, because more than anything, this place was a set designed so that every corner, every room could serve as an attractive backdrop for photos and videos.

[C]

We can kind of do anything in this space, and just having it be that canvas for what our creators want to do and use their vision and ideas and we make that come to life for them.

[A]

We were here to get a glimpse of the day to day operations of elite creators and the teams of professionals who support their careers. We wanted to see how the business of OnlyFans was conducted.

[B]

I've never been one to covet the glamorous influencer life, but in the weeks leading up to this trip, we'd been reading about and talking to creators who were bringing in wheelbarrows of money each month. And seeing those numbers made me hungry. Not just to make money so I could pay the bills, but for real wealth, like prosperity. Because as an of creator, it actually felt within reach for me for the first time in my life. So stepping into this house, I was like Eve looking at the apple, which I guess made our girl Kayla the ultimate creator.

[C]

I never do interviews. I am strategically the person out of the picture. You know, I hide in the background. It's not about us, it's about our creators and letting them shine and making sure we give them the best opportunity.

[A]

Kayla, a former gymnastics coach at MIT turned entrepreneur, presided over the scene. Kind of like a benevolent ra. She gave us the grand tour of the place where on any given day you can find young women from the Creators Inc. Roster and a few men working out, shooting videos and lounging.

[C]

This is our spa. So if you're into the cold plunge and the infrared sauna, this is your place. The cold plunge is a very popular spot, especially today when it's 100 degrees.

[A]

I couldn't help but notice Gracie's eyes light up every time Kayla showed us another amenity at the house. A few feet from the cold plunge, there was a pop up shop of Creators Inc. Bikinis because apparently it was LA swim week.

[C]

I thought you were coming to shoot for CI Swimwear. I thought you were like someone from the arc.

[B]

I mean, if somewhere, if you're asking,

[C]

you want to, since you're here, we'd love to have you, but I really thought that's what I'm here for.

[B]

If my co workers weren't right here, I feel like it'd be so like, like, do you guys want to go away for 45 minutes? No, but I'll be literally like, I'm here often, so I'll hit you up. And also maybe you want to work with us.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Gracie, be honest. How badly did you want to do this photo shoot when Kayla asked you?

[B]

Oh my God. Could you tell? Yes, I was. I couldn't help it. I was so embarrassed how badly I wanted it because it was like one bikini away from being a Creator's Inc. Girl.

[A]

That's right. 10ft from stardom.

[B]

10ft pics from stardom.

[A]

Sorry, not to ask a rude question, but like, do people film sex here too?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. Is that a rule?

[C]

I prefer it that way.

[A]

It was funny how awkward it felt to bring up sex as if it wasn't at the center of the Creator's Inc. Business model. Though, honestly, walking around the house with its pastel color scheme and ample nooks, you wouldn't know porn had anything to do with it.

[B]

I mean, ample nooks sounds pretty porny to me. But to be clear, I don't think Kayla meant there was no nudity allowed in the house, just that actual sex on camera was frowned upon. They definitely keep the creators ink house clean on purpose. Kayla told us she regularly invites family members of Creators to come see the house so they can be reassured that their daughter or sister isn't being forced to work out of some shady brothel.

[C]

There is a dark, scary place that women can fall into and this is a really wonderful, safe, supported Fifth wave feminism is what I like to call it.

[B]

Fifth wave, yeah.

[C]

Where we're kind of flipping that and you are making this something much more positive.

[B]

I'm going to be honest, this house wasn't really giving me Audre Lorde vibes. And much like those parents Kayla mentioned bringing to the house, we were definitely getting the shiny, rosy version of OnlyFans. But still, I believed Kayla when she said she wants more for her clients than just being famous as OnlyFans. Creators. She told us Creators Inc. Has helped women launch skincare lines and fashion brands. She even introduced us to one woman who had used her OnlyFans income to start a trucking company back home in Texas. The way Kayla sees it of is simply the best way for these women to bankroll their ambitions, whatever they may be.

[C]

This is the new Hollywood and basically, you know, if you're going to set yourself up for the rest of your life, like this is your opportunity.

[A]

Hollywood felt like the opposite of what I thought OnlyFans was supposed to be. Instead of focusing on building one on one genuine connections between creators and subscribers, here was a factory churning out hyper curated and highly produced images of so called authentic living. Of course, that didn't mean Kayla was wrong. It just made me think OnlyFans stardom was more complicated than I'd realized. Binge all episodes of OnlyFantasy AD free right now on audible start your Audible subscription in the Audible app or on Apple Podcasts.