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Business of Architecture Podcast
Hosted by Enoch Sears & Rion Willard · EN
Discover strategies, tips and secrets for running a fun, flexible and profitable architecture practice. The focus here is simple: discussion of ways for architects to create a dream architecture practice: design what you want, when you want, and get paid well for it.
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How Architecture Firms Can Test and Adopt AI Without Losing Design Control | 693
5d ago00:50:42Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework AI is moving fast in architecture, but most firms still aren't sure how to use it without losing control of the work. In this episode, Brandon Mut shares what it looks like to bring new tools into a real practice with discipline, not hype. You'll hear how one design technology leader built standards first, then tested AI against finished projects, and only then let it into the workflow. You'll also hear the metric they used to judge results, and why "don't change anything" is harder than it sounds. Along the way, they talk about fears, liability, sustainability, training younger staff, and what might change over the next few years. The quiet mistake that makes "AI adoption" backfire inside a firm. A simple way to tell whether AI is helping—or secretly shifting your design. Why the wave won't be about tools… it'll be about who stays in charge. To learn more about Brandon, visit his website: https://fogartyfinger.com/
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From Technician to Business Owner: Rethinking Money and Value in Architecture | 692
2w ago00:41:47Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Rion digs into why "premium fees" start in your head long before they appear in a proposal. He explores how architects are trained to be exceptional technicians, but rarely prepared to think like business owners, and how that gap quietly limits growth. A simple but powerful model is introduced to reframe how time, value, and income really work. Rion also challenges several deeply held beliefs architects carry about money, responsibility, and worth. He discusses why avoiding financial conversations weakens both firms and client relationships, and how greater clarity can create freedom rather than pressure. The focus is not on tactics, but on seeing the business of architecture differently. The uncomfortable middle ground that drains architects without them noticing A subtle distinction that determines whether your firm can survive without you The mental shift that changes how clients perceive your fees
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Growing a Global Design Studio Through Leadership, Talent, and Intention | EP691
3w ago00:49:18Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Rion Willard talks with interior designer Sally O'Connor about how she grew Hesellic Design from a solo start into a small global studio. She shares how a TV job opened the door to luxury homes and how she moved forward without formal training. You'll hear hints of the quiet actions that drew in her first major clients. Sally also talks about the moment her workload broke the old way of working. She describes learning to hand off control, building a tight-knit team, and stepping into the role of creative leader. She then touches on the studio's move into Dubai and Los Angeles, and how journaling and visualising guide her biggest moves. The simple shift that helped her stop clinging to every task. The "vision exercise" she used before her first Dubai project. How one early hire quietly set the tone for her culture. To learn more about Sally, visit her website: https://www.hesellicdesign.com
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Setting Premium Fees in Architecture: From Scarcity to Agency | EP690
4w ago00:45:01Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework If you have ever felt uneasy talking about fees, you are not alone—and that silence may be costing you more than you think. In this episode, Rion Willard explores why pricing sits underneath many of the stress points in an architecture practice, from cash pressure to burnout and the wrong clients. You will hear why "doing great work" is not a pricing strategy, and how a firm can drift into a cycle of undercharging, overdelivering, and thin margins without realizing it. Rion also reframes money as a form of agency and explains what changes when you treat fees as a business system, not a guess, and why small shifts can create outsized leverage. He then lays out a practical framework for premium pricing and hints at the habits that make it work in real firms. If you want more breathing room, stronger teams, and better choices, start here right now. The quiet reason clients "suddenly" fixate on price—and how to stop that game before it starts. The one missing piece that makes fee confidence feel impossible, even when your work is strong. A simple way to tell if your firm is financially healthy—without looking at profit alone.
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Storytelling for Architects: How to Communicate Ideas That Connect and Win Work | EP689
Jun 100:47:20Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework What makes one architect memorable while another gets tuned out, even when the work is strong? In this episode, Enoch Sears talks with Lee Schneider about why storytelling is not just a nice skill, but a real business tool for architects. Lee explains why people do not connect with facts alone, and why the most effective message often starts somewhere unexpected. He also shares how small shifts in the way you present ideas can change how clients hear you, trust you, and respond to you. You will also hear why some presentations fall flat, what strong communicators do differently, and how story shape matters more than most people think. If you have ever wondered why some people win attention so naturally, this conversation gives you a fresh way to think about it. Why the thing most architects lead with may be the very reason people stop listening The overlooked shift that can make your message feel more human, clear, and persuasive What great storytellers seem to do naturally that others miss completely To learn more about Lee, visit his LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/docuguy/
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Why Architecture Firms Experience Cycles—and How to Lead Through Them | EP688
May 2500:42:17Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Enoch Sears sits down with Joost Bende, President of PACIFIC 33 Architects, to talk about what hits hardest once the drawings are done. Joost shares what it feels like when work is flowing, then suddenly isn't—and how small choices can create a dip months later. If you've ever felt "feast or famine," this will feel familiar. You'll also hear how a healthcare-focused practice stays sharp, why relationships matter more than tactics, and what changes when you watch the business engine behind the design. Joost explains how stronger systems and clearer numbers can lower stress and create freedom away from the office—without losing traction. The moment that reveals whether your pipeline is real… or just hope Why "being busy" can still set you up for a surprise slump The shift that makes clients treat you like a strategic partner To learn more about Joost, visit his website: https://pacific33architects.com/
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How to Build a Stable, People-First Firm | EP687
May 1800:50:32Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode of Business of Architecture, Enoch Sears talks with John Arnold, partner at KFA. John shares how rising from junior staff to firm leader shaped his focus on people, culture, and stability. The stories show life inside a firm that works hard not to treat staff as disposable. You'll hear how John and his partners think about staffing, money, and growth so they can protect their team when the market shifts. He also hints at a mindset that shapes how they choose clients, write proposals, and handle scope changes. And he explains why he sees his role as helping people leave the firm as "whole" humans. The routine that helps KFA spot trouble months before others feel it. The way they handle first client calls that often leads to more work. One mindset shift that changes how you lead, mentor, and profit in your firm. To learn more about John, visit his website: https://kfalosangeles.com/
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From Chaos to Clarity: Vision, Pricing, and the Next Stage of Practice Growth | EP686
May 1100:38:14Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Enoch sits down with Eariny Adams, founder of Genesis Design, to explore what really happens after the excitement of starting a firm wears off. Eariny shares what it felt like when growth brought complexity, pressure, and a quiet sense of confusion that many firm owners know well. Her story reflects a turning point that doesn't come from working harder, but from seeing differently. As the conversation unfolds, Eariny describes how clarity, vision, and support reshaped the way she leads her practice. Money, pricing, and team building show up—not as tactics, but as deeper shifts in mindset and confidence. The result is a firm that feels lighter, stronger, and more intentional. The episode ends with a look toward the future, where growth takes on a bolder, less traditional shape. The hidden signal that told her something had to change The small shift that completely altered client dynamics The growth move most firm owners never see coming To learn more about Eariny, visit her website: https://www.genesisinteriordesign.com/
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A Smarter Approach to Business Development for Architects | EP685
May 401:03:57Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Rion Willard sits down with TJ Lyons to explore a side of practice growth that many architects find unclear or uncomfortable. Instead of relying on presentations or personality, TJ shares a more focused way to approach business development—one built on clarity, intent, and better conversations. They unpack what really happens in client meetings, why so many firms sound the same without realizing it, and how a small shift in approach can change who you attract. The discussion also touches on a deeper issue inside the profession: why selling feels difficult, and how that mindset shapes results. If you have ever left a meeting unsure what happened, felt stuck competing on fees, or questioned how to reach better clients, this episode offers a fresh perspective worth hearing. Why the way architects open conversations can quietly shape the outcome The subtle difference that makes some firms stand out—without saying more What effective business development feels like when it's done right To learn more about TJ, visit his website: http://www.cubedbd.com
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How Raising Your Fees Creates Freedom in an Architecture Practice | EP684
Apr 2700:46:42Tap to summarizeEnd chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework Chris Smart didn't start out confident about money. He undercharged, worked nonstop, and felt the stress spill into his home. In this conversation with Enoch Sears, he shares the turning points that helped him move from survival mode to more space and better clients—without losing his love for design. You'll hear what changed as he moved from "be competitive" thinking to a clearer view of value, service, and faith. It's part business, part inner work, and honest about what it costs to wear every hat alone. If you run a small firm and feel stretched thin, this episode will challenge what you call "normal." On today's episode, you'll discover: The quiet belief that keeps talented architects stuck at "drafter money" The mindset shift that made higher fees feel clean—and eased pressure at home Why "more projects" can feel safer… and how that can become the trap To learn more about Chris, visit his website: https://chrissmartdesigns.com/
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