Ayesha Curry: Marriage, Motherhood & My Identity

Summary

Call Her Daddy — Ayesha Curry: Marriage, Motherhood & My Identity

Host: Alex Cooper
Guest: Ayesha Curry
Date: August 20, 2025

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Main Theme and Purpose

In this episode, Alex Cooper welcomes Ayesha Curry for an open, honest, and relatable conversation. The discussion centers on Ayesha’s unexpected journey from aspiring actress to culinary entrepreneur, her marriage to NBA star Steph Curry, motherhood, and the challenges of forging her own identity in the public eye. Through candid anecdotes and real talk about career pivots, love, self-worth, and societal expectations, Ayesha offers invaluable insights for women navigating changing life plans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Growing Up & Early Ambition

• Early Career Start:

  • Ayesha started working in the entertainment industry at age three after being scouted in a grocery store ([12:43], Ayesha Curry).
  • Grew up in a strict household in North Carolina; limited social life but parents supported her move to LA at 17 to pursue acting ([12:21–13:14], Ayesha Curry).

• Rejection & Self-Discovery:

  • LA was a wake-up call—"every single person in here looks exactly like me" ([14:00], Ayesha Curry).
  • Learned the need to diversify herself to stand out.

2. Meeting Steph Curry & Early Relationship

• Origin Story:

  • Met Steph as teens at church after moving from Canada. Reconnected at 19 when Steph messaged her on Facebook while in LA for basketball ([16:22–18:53], Ayesha Curry).

• First Date Memories:

  • Their initial date was filled with innocent, young love—"one of the best days of my life, honestly" ([20:53], Ayesha Curry).
  • No kiss on the first date; funny, awkward stories about first moves and miscommunication ([22:06–23:19], Ayesha and Alex).

• Long Distance & Commitment:

  • Their relationship was long-distance while Steph finished college. Ayesha describes the heartache and lack of clear plans—“I don't even think I was thinking of how it could work. We were just going through the motions" ([23:52], Ayesha Curry).

3. Navigating Family, Marriage, and Motherhood

• Unexpected Life Changes:

  • Never envisioned herself married or with kids, yet life changed rapidly: married at 22, pregnant three months later ([05:04], [30:47], Ayesha Curry).
  • On finding out she was pregnant: “I was confused…my OB said expect it to take up to a year. In my head, I heard at least a year. I was thinking we were gonna be like bar hopping. Nope, you're pregnant" ([32:53], Ayesha Curry).

• Advice on Changing Timelines:

  • “There's no such thing as a timeline...life is ebbs and flows and you just kind of have to roll with the punches” ([33:43], Ayesha Curry).

• Identity and ‘Mom Guilt’:

  • Struggle between entrepreneurial spirit and being a mom: “not being able to call the shots for myself was just freaking weird” ([34:41], Ayesha Curry).
  • “If you lose all of those things that were interesting about you...then what? Like, what are you doing?” ([35:44], Ayesha Curry).

Notable Quotes

• “You can do more. Not that it’s easy, but it’s an option.” – Alex Cooper ([37:11])
• “‘When men do it, they’re 'multifaceted'—why can’t women do the same thing?’” – Ayesha Curry ([37:13])

4. Building a Career Beyond ‘NBA Wife’

• Culinary Career Genesis:

  • Turned passion for food into a blog, encouraged by Steph. Grew into video content, TV, cookbook, and Food Network shows ([47:58–49:58], Ayesha Curry).

• Barriers as a Woman and as “Steph Curry’s Wife”:

  • Faced nos for being too young and for a lack of representation.
  • “Instead of being like, you don't have a demographic here, let's create one, it was like, no, you don't have a demographic here” ([50:09], Ayesha Curry).

• Scrutiny and Double Standards:

  • Social media brought tough criticism and objectification—both for her looks and her ambitions ([41:47–44:12]).
  • Misogyny of being told “she needs to sit there and look pretty like other people” ([51:40], Ayesha Curry).

• Male-Dominated Industries:

  • Learned to advocate for herself partly through support from other women. Appreciates the impact of ‘paying it forward’—now uses her Sweet July brand to platform other women’s stories ([54:56], Ayesha Curry).

Notable Quote

• “When you lock arms with strong, creative, outspoken women, it’s so much more powerful than doing it alone.” – Ayesha Curry ([55:47])

5. Spotlight, Fame, and Relationship Dynamics

• Spotlight Stress:

  • Early fame felt overwhelming: “I did not sign up for that...I thought I was gonna be the girl out there getting it” ([39:34], Ayesha Curry).
  • Sports fans are “ruthless”—shared a story of a woman intruding while she was breastfeeding ([39:34–41:14]).

• Coping & Partnership:

  • Steph is supportive but sometimes “just can’t resonate” with the particular pressures Ayesha faces as a woman ([42:39–43:16]).
  • Experience of public scrutiny around her appearance and her role—being compared to cartoon characters, and assumptions about her place ([44:12–45:45], Ayesha and Alex).

6. Family & Business

• Balance & Priorities:

  • Candidly discusses family quirks—kids embarrassing her in public, marital dynamics, and who’s more likely to call a family meeting or splurge ([06:10], [46:10–47:18]).

• Eat. Learn. Play. Foundation:

  • Describes the impact of their charity: “The single most important thing we'll do in our careers...is Eat. Learn. Play.” Focuses on nutrition, education, and play for Oakland kids ([56:27–58:07]).

7. Sweet July Brand and Skin Care

• Building Sweet July:

  • Named for the month significant family events pile up—the “heightened gratefulness” needed to continue throughout the year ([58:40], Ayesha Curry).
  • Sweet July Skin developed to provide clean, effective skincare, particularly influenced by Caribbean remedies, and born from Ayesha’s own skin struggles ([59:53–61:38]).

• On Imperfection & Authenticity:

  • “The confidence of being like, I own a skincare brand, and this [breakout] being out of my control right now is crazy...there's just some things you cannot control” ([61:01], Ayesha Curry).

8. Legacy & Lessons for Her Kids

• Values for Children:
  • Wants her children to see both parents’ successes and tribulations, and to always remember “the most important thing was still family” ([63:40], Ayesha Curry).
  • Focuses on “impact over legacy...as long as my kids are nice people...I will feel like I’d done a great job” ([64:12], Ayesha Curry).

Notable Quote

• “As long as what I've done and what I've offered to the world or things that I've tried to change have been impactful, then that will be good enough for me.” – Ayesha Curry ([64:12])

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On adapting to change:
  • “There's no such thing as a timeline...you just kind of have to roll with the punches.” – Ayesha Curry ([33:43])
• On gender expectations:
  • “‘When men do it, they're so multifaceted. Wow, what a renaissance man. Why can't women do the same thing?’” – Ayesha Curry ([37:13])
• On career and ambition:
  • “If you lose all of those things that were interesting about you...what are you doing?” – Ayesha Curry ([35:44])
• On spotlight and criticism:
  • “I did not sign up for that…I thought I was going to be the girl out there getting it.” – Ayesha Curry ([39:34])
  • “A reporter actually literally said on live television, she needs to sit there and look pretty like other people.” – Ayesha Curry ([51:40])
• On collaborating with other women:
  • “When you lock arms with strong, creative, outspoken women, it just…It’s so much more powerful than doing it alone.” – Ayesha Curry ([55:47])
• On imperfection and authenticity:
  • “My skin ebbs and flows and that’s okay.” – Ayesha Curry ([61:01])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Career dreams and moving to LA: [10:55–14:30]
• Meeting Steph and early romance: [16:14–23:35]
• Marriage & motherhood, timeline shifting: [30:47–34:41]
• Entrepreneurial identity, career frustration: [34:41–37:40]
• Being in the sports spotlight: [39:34–41:21]
• Scrutiny, double standards, misogyny: [41:31–46:02]
• Starting and scaling her food career: [47:57–49:58]
• Facing barriers as a businesswoman: [50:09–54:00]
• Giving back and uplifting women: [54:48–58:07]
• Building the Sweet July brand, launching skin care: [58:36–61:38]
• Hopes for kids, legacy: [63:40–64:52]

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Conclusion

Ayesha Curry’s episode of Call Her Daddy is a deeply engaging account of what it means to evolve, adapt, and assert your identity as a woman, wife, mother, and entrepreneur—often in the face of public scrutiny and outdated expectations. Her honesty about self-doubt, working through setbacks and judgment, and finding passion in unexpected places is both refreshing and inspiring. The episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking a rich mix of vulnerability, humor, and wisdom about love, life, and self-worth.

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End of summary

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Thank you for having me.

[A]

I am so excited to meet you. How are you doing today?

[B]

I'm hanging in there right now. I'm really nervous to be here.

[A]

Wait, why?

[B]

I'm so excited. Excited? Oh, my God. Yeah. So I'm. I'm just grateful. I'm excited. Hoping I don't get in trouble for the things that I say.

[A]

I feel like we're gonna have good girl talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not gonna put. You're not in the hot seat like you.

[B]

I know, I know.

[A]

Is it good that I'm catching you in the off season or.

[B]

Okay, good, Great.

[A]

So you're more chill during the off season?

[B]

Super chill, yeah. I mean, it's still chaotic. It's always chaotic, but we're like learning to live in that.

[A]

What do you guys usually do during this time of year? Are you traveling? Are you staying at home?

[B]

Well, right now, because it's July. It's always the most chaotic of the year, actually of the whole calendar year because three of our kids birthdays are in July. Our anniversary is at the end of July. And it's like if you do, if you play well, like for my husband, if you Play well. You play until June.

[A]

And he usually plays well.

[B]

He usually plays well. This year we had a little bit more time, which was nice, but usually it's just two months and that's it.

[A]

Okay. Four kids. Did you always knew you wanted a big family?

[B]

No. So I. I didn't want kids. I. I didn't want to get married. I thought I was gonna be career girl, and that's it. And I had my eyes set on my goals, and I was never the little girl that, like, dreamt about the wedding dress and all of that. And then it happened so early in my life. So it's like, it's one of those things, like, you don't. You don't know what you. You actually don't know what you want.

[A]

Well, it's so interesting you say that, because I want to talk a lot about that today because I relate to you in that way. Like, I really, really never thought I was gonna get married. I'm like, there is actually no way that's ever gonna happen. And then it happens, and you're like, maybe I didn't know myself that well. And it's like, no, you knew yourself when you were young. And then life happens and then you grow up, and then you have different wants and needs. And that's okay to change your mind.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But it's still shocking.

[B]

It's still shocking.

[A]

Okay, wait, quickly back to parenting. I'm gonna ask you a couple random, like, parenting manual questions. Okay. What is the time one of your kids embarrassed you in public?

[B]

My daughter, Ryan. We were in a very public place. I'm trying to remember where. I'm blanking because I think this just like overshadowed the whole thing. But she yelled out like, mommy, do you have weaves? Is that a weaves? Like, with an s?

[A]

Do you have weaves in your hair?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You're like, ryan, thank you so much. Mommy loves you. Kids will humble you every fucking day. Okay, what's a bribe you used recently to get your kids to do something?

[B]

Oh, I paid my daughter, my 13 year old Riley, and my niece Ava. I paid them to $20 to clean up the kitchen and the living room. Back in my day, I wouldn't have had that opportunity. I would have just had to do it.

[A]

Okay, what is the weirdest thing you found in your kid's backpack or pocket?

[B]

So I just found. Okay, I found my nipple covers in my son's pocket. He cheeky. He must have found my purse or on the counter and he's like, you could always tell, like, what he's and then he walked in and he goes, mommy, do you know what's under here? And I. I had forgotten that fast that he had put them in his pocket. He's like, do you know what's under here? And I'm like, no, Canon, what are you doing? And he goes, I said, take them off. And he's just like, smiling ear to ear. He thinks it's hysterical. Oh, my God.

[A]

God, that is. That is actually, though, hysterical.

[B]

You have to leave the room.

[A]

Like, this is not happening.

[B]

You don't want to laugh too hard because then they'll just keep doing it.

[A]

He was like, Steph is like, I am leaving. You're like, mortified.

[B]

It's so bad. Foreign.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To move to L. A. To start your acting career.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tell me about like coming out to la. What early ambitions did you have for yourself and like, what did you want?

[B]

It's interesting because I don't ever, I think, get the opportunity to kind of talk about my life before my life now. And so yeah, I graduated high school a year early. At the time was living in North Carolina and I'd been in the industry since I was three years old. I was always working, I commercial print, like doing TV stuff, always. So other kids were at like soccer, doing the extra curriculars and I was on a set working. And so it was second nature for me. And quite honestly, growing up, the only thing that I thought I could do. And so I would enter all of these competitions, I entered this one in North Carolina and they were like, hey, move to la. And I grew up. I think it's really important to preface, I grew up in like the most strict environment. Like didn't get to go to high school football games, didn't get to really hang out with my friends. Damn sure couldn't like walk around the mall by myself. But when these people were like, hey, you want to move to la? They were like, yeah, go.

[A]

Your parents were like, have fun, honey. You're like, go.

[B]

Like you're going to do it. And I, I appreciate it because that means they believed in me so much. But at the same time, our entire family was like, this is crazy. Like you can't even carpool.

[A]

Okay, wait, you starting at 3, did was it. Cause like your mom just saw something in you. Like we, we.

[B]

The story is. Because obviously I have no recollection. We were in a grocery store and a talent Agent said, oh, she should be in commercials. And so it started from there and then kept going. And.

[A]

And when you started working that young and then kind of became aware of it, like, did you love it?

[B]

Like, I loved it. I. I loved it. Eat, sleep, breathe.

[A]

Okay, so you come from the strict family, then you get on a plane after graduating high school early. So you're what, 17?

[B]

Yeah, I was 17. My dad set me up for, like a month. I got an apartment ridiculously expensive, so I was shocked. Had to pick up three jobs. I worked at a frozen yogurt shop. I worked at Abercrombie and Fitch Farmer's Market on the weekends to, like, just to be able to make that happen.

[A]

And I feel like when you have the dream of LA and acting or modeling or getting into this industry, like, naturally rejection comes with that.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

When you came out to la, what was your self confidence like before you started? Like, really getting maybe some nos?

[B]

I think because I came from the small town, I was like, oh, I got this. And then I got out. I got out here. I remember the first couple of, like, cattle call auditions being like, every single person in here looks exactly like me. Like, there's these, like, we're carbon copies of each other. Like, what's going to set you apart? And so I think early on, I was like, wow, I've got to diversify my portfolio a little bit, right?

[A]

Because in North Carolina, you're like, there's like, three of us in theater that are crushing. And then you get to LA and they're like, bitch, this is your first audition. Like, this is my 900th. Like, get in the back of the line.

[B]

You're like, I'm walking in and I'm like, hello. And they're all like, why is this girl talking to us?

[A]

Okay, but like, Aisha, you have, like, a huge flex. I found out that you were on an episode of Hannah Montana. Yeah, girl, that was my favorite show growing up. So you know what? I would put that, if I was you, I would put that on my resume. I would put that as my Instagram.

[B]

Instagram bio.

[A]

I was on Hannah Montana. You.

[B]

Actually, I have a good story. I have a good story about that. Hopefully you find this funny.

[A]

Okay. Okay. I'm dead.

[B]

The one little episode, I was so excited. I remember calling 7 like, I got.

[A]

It, I got it.

[B]

He was so excited for me. I. I remember going to set and there was this lovely girl who was like, in some of the scenes with me, and Billy Ray walks up and he's like, we're like, oh, hello sir. Like, so nice to meet you. And he's like, you know, you guys, it was actually so sweet. He was like, you know, you guys can really do this. You can really do this. And we're just looking at him like, do what? And he's like, miley puts her pants on the same way you do every day and. But it stuck with me.

[A]

It's kind of true. You're like, I could be.

[B]

He's right, he's right.

[A]

You know, you're literally like, what are you talking about, sir? Then you're like, oh, you're talking big picture here. I got it.

[B]

Picture.

[A]

This is like a little metaphor. I see where you're going with this, Billy. Right. So during that time, you and Steph were already dating with the Hannah.

[B]

We were dating.

[A]

Okay, let's go back. Let's talk about how you met Mr. Steph Curry. You met him in high school.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm Canadian. Okay. So I grew up in Markham, Ontario and I moved to the states at 14 to North Carolina. And that's actually where we met. He's one of the first people that I met in the States, but just friends, obviously. We were 14, went to the same church, shared the same friend groups at church. And then when I moved to la, he Facebooked me.

[A]

Did he write on your wall or was it like a private message?

[B]

No, it was a private message, but he was like, hey, do you still live in la? That's a lie. The first message was I was in this music video and he was like, hey, who is that in the music video in the picture that you're in? And I'm like, oh, it's young Berg. And he goes, oh, I should have known. He always has all the sexy ladies. And I was like, what is happening right now?

[A]

You're like, steph, I knew you're 14. I was 14. What are you trying to do right.

[B]

Now at this time? So at this time now we're 19. Okay, 18. 19. And so he goes, do you still live in LA? I'm here for a camp. Do you want to hang out? And I'm like freaking out because this guy, he was like the guy at church, like all the girls loved him.

[A]

I thought you were gonna say in high school. On the court you're like, at church. He was the guy at church. Was he the basketball guy in high school or no?

[B]

Apparently he was. But I genuinely didn't pay attention to that. Cause I grew up in such an arts driven family that sports outside of Doug Flutie playing for the Buffalo Bills wasn't a thing. It just wasn't a thing in my. In my house. And so he said. So we made plans to hang out. And then I said, where are you staying? And he said, anaheim. And I was like.

[A]

I was like, you're like, so you're coming to me? Cause I'm not at this point.

[B]

I still have the other jobs, like, trying to pay the rent. Gas is expensive. So I was like, I'm sorry. I can't this time, but if you're ever back, let me know and we'll go hang out. And he's like, oh, I'm back in two weeks. And I'm like, oh, my God, you still in Anaheim? And so, no, this time he was in Hollywood, so he stuck with it. He hit me up two weeks later, we hung out, and we've literally been together since that day.

[A]

Okay, hold on. You go and you hang out with him. What is your headspace? Are you seeing him in, like, a. Could this be something kind of way, or are you like.

[B]

No, No, I was. And this was, like, my first real date, so I was just nervous. I was nervous. It was, like, years of having a crush, and then years. Like, I just never thought that he would like someone like me. I just didn't think it was going to be a thing. Friends? Yeah.

[A]

Did you ever have any thing in high school at all or. It was legit? Just friends?

[B]

No, just friends. Just friends, Yeah.

[A]

I get what you're saying. Like, you never saw him as something. But I'm like, when you look back, is there any memory that you're like, maybe there was something, or.

[B]

No. No, never. I. I had a friend over who had a crush on his brother at the time, and she decided to call him, and they were giggling, and then they put. We're maybe, like, 15 at this time, and they put Stefan on the phone, and somebody said something about Canada, and so I was like, oh, I'm Canadian. And he's like, oh, do you like Canadian candy? And I'm like, I love Canadian candy. And so my aunt was coming into town from Canada, and so she brought some for me. And so I was like, oh, I'll bring you a bag to church the next time we're at church. So I.

[A]

It was meant to be.

[B]

I bring the bag, and I. Literally, everybody's watching. I hand it to him, and I don't say anything to him. I just, like, shove it and walk away. Like, that's how shy.

[A]

Aisha. And did you like him at all like, in your heart. You're like, oh, I wish.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. It just wasn't. It was high school.

[B]

I thought he was so cute.

[A]

Okay, so fast forward. You go on this first date.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What are the vibes?

[B]

It was the. It was one of the best days of my life, honestly. It was so innocent and young and like, I wish I could relive that or at least watch it from, like, a bird's eye view. It was so cute. We did Hollywood Boulevard, put our. Put our hands in the. In the Maryland hands and, like, got chai tea. Chai lattes. We went over to the Grove and, like, walked around and they were filming some Eddie Murphy movie that we like. I don't think it ever ended up coming out. And just had checking cop cars to see if they had donuts. Like, just like real young love. I don't know. I remember it like it was yesterday.

[A]

I feel like when you have one of those first dates, though, like, I feel that way about my husband. I always say that to him. I'm like, oh, my God, what I would give to relive that night. Or at least I say the same thing. Just watch it. Like, I wish I could just. Yeah. Because it's so romantic and cute to know then what comes from that story. So that's really cute because it is so innocent. You had no idea what it was going to lead to.

[B]

And nobody could predict, like, what the future.

[A]

No.

[B]

Held holds.

[A]

Did you guys kiss first date?

[B]

No.

[A]

Did he try?

[B]

No, he tried. So shortly after that, I got a really bad bout of laryngitis.

[A]

Stop. This is so random.

[B]

My throat was so swollen, it was like. And I panicked and I was like, mom, dad, I want to come home. And so I went home and he was like, I'm home.

[A]

And so you're laid up with laryngitis.

[B]

I got a little bit better. And then we, like, continued dating from there, obviously. And like, I want to say it was maybe like the fourth date. He came like, I was mid sentence and he came flying at my face and I turned to the side. I'm still nervous at this point. It's like butterflies. And he's like, oh, oh. And I just look at him and I'm like, I didn't know that's what we were doing. I didn't know you liked me like that. And he was like, yeah, I've just been coming over to your house for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers.

[A]

I was like, I feel like, oh.

[B]

Try again, try again.

[A]

One More time. Wait. And so did he try again?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, you. Okay, so you did okay. Cute, cute. I'm like, this poor man gets rejected.

[B]

No, no, it was fine. It was like a split second.

[A]

But it's cute too, because, like, in that moment, you're still the girl with the candy, like, handing it to him and running away. And meanwhile, he's like, I like you. Can you sit there and like, accept it for a second? That's really, really cute. Okay, so when you're living in la, you guys reconnect. He didn't live in LA at the time, right?

[B]

No.

[A]

So this is like a light long distance situation.

[B]

It's a light long distance. Yeah. He still had a year of college left, so it was pretty long distance.

[A]

When you were in that beginning stage, did you have interest in a long distance? Like, how did you think this was even going to work?

[B]

Ironically, I don't even think I was thinking of how it could work. We were just going through the motions, really. And it seemed like the people around us too, like, our families were into it and so they were like a really good support system through it. I don't know. It sucked, now that I'm thinking about it. I remember I drove back to LA after he started his junior year of college and the season had started for him, but I had to go back for something. I don't remember what it was for. And at the time, you could get his college games on the radio and it was a big game. And so I'm like listening, sobbing, like, I'm not there to support.

[A]

You're literally driving home, like the classic girl looking out the window, like, so sad. You're like, fuck my life. Oh, my God. But then it obviously ended up working out. Tell me about the moment that he gets drafted to the Golden State warriors, because now he's coming full time west coast near you.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So he had, like a big decision to make because he had a year, he had a senior year left. So it was like, do I stay? Do I go? And like, I think what a lot of people don't know is he really, like, he really thought about, like, it was like a torment for him. He called me, like, crying behind a tree, like, I don't know what to do. And I. And I'll stand like 10 toes down on this. Like, I don't. I'm not. It's not a secret. I was like, stay in school.

[A]

Wait. And why? Because then he was going to be far away from you still.

[B]

Why? So the why is I didn't grow up surrounded by people who went to college. That, for me, was like, wow, what a blessing. Like, you. You get to go to college. You get to get. Have an education. Like, why would you leave? So. And then not coming from that sports background and understanding how, like, rare the opportunity he had was, I was like, yeah, stay in school.

[A]

Really? College is so much cooler than the NBA.

[B]

But I am glad.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

That was really the sentiment. Kind of love that for you, but I'm glad. I'm glad he. I'm glad he decided to leave. And then he ended up finishing anyway and has gone on to do tremendous, incredible, cool shit that we never thought would happen. So it's great.

[A]

So he comes to the west coast, and at this point, when he gets, like, drafted, like, are you guys, like, official boyfriend? Girlfriend?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Who said I love you first?

[B]

Me.

[A]

What? Help. Take me. Tell me everything.

[B]

I 100% said I love you first. I was visiting him at school and getting ready to leave to go back to my mom's house. And I said it, and he didn't say it back. And he just stared at me, and my eyes started to well up, and he was like, can I please explain? And I'm like, okay.

[A]

And he said, oh, my. Okay. I immediately now know what you're like in those moments of relationships. You literally go stone cold. Just like, okay, let me know.

[B]

He's like. I said. He's like, I said I love you to somebody in the past, and I didn't mean it. He's like, and I regret it. And he's like, I just want to be sure that when I say it again, you know, that it's. That I mean it. And in the moment, I was like, bullshit. But now, obviously, I realize he was serious. And a few, like, a month later, we're sitting watching seven pounds. And when they say, like, the human heart, seven pounds, he literally. My Whole family's in the room, by the way, sitting, watching this movie. He leans over in my ear, and he's like, I love you. And I'm, like, happy. But I'm also like, what, like, are.

[A]

You doing sitting next to my uncle? What? Do we not step in that moment thinking, like, this is gonna be so romantic. And you're literally like.

[B]

I mean, if he's gonna do one thing, he's gonna make it memorable.

[A]

So then you. Did you just not talk the rest of the movie?

[B]

I had to get up and take a lap, yeah.

[A]

Did he follow you?

[B]

No. And then after the movie was over, we, like, went in My uncle's elevator, and we're, like, making out in there. It was great.

[A]

That's what needed to happen. Picturing him whispering that to you and you just, like. Stone called me. You're like, uncle Jerry. Just close your ears. What?

[B]

I do have an Uncle Jerry. It wasn't Uncle Jerry.

[A]

Which uncle was it?

[B]

My Uncle Carl.

[A]

Uncle Carl? Yes, Jerry and Carl. Good names for uncles, right?

[B]

Okay, classic.

[A]

You end up moving to the Bay Area with Seth. Talk to me about for you, what went into that decision.

[B]

It was exciting. I think initially when they called his name, we were, like, kicking each other under the table because nobody really knew where that was. But then the next morning, we. We got on the plane to fly out to the bay and have never looked back. And the vibes. The vibes in the bay are high. Yes. It's so good. Everybody's so creative. The culture is, like, rich.

[A]

Pausing on you guys as a couple now. Let's talk about you as an individual, though, because you had this dream, and did you feel like in moving with him, did you feel like you had to pick between your career and your relationship at that point?

[B]

Yes, to an extent that was never presented in front of me that way. It just kind of had to be that way. And because when we. After we got married, we found out we were pregnant with our daughters so quickly, it. I didn't even have time to think about what I wanted anymore. It's so interesting. I spent my entire life, like, trying to work towards something, and then it kind of just disappeared. And I didn't think twice about it. But after my daughter turned one, I remember there being a shift and being like, I have goals for myself. Like, this doesn't feel right. I love being a mom, but I love doing other things too, and I need to get my shit together and figure out what that looks like for myself now.

[A]

Okay, rewind. Two steps.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Married at 22.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How did you know you were ready for that?

[B]

I didn't. I just knew that I loved him. And I'd never, like, experienced anything else. I'd never felt any differently than, like, this is who I want to spend the rest of my life with. And so we kind of just dove.

[A]

In and did anyone or any you or Steph or anyone have any hesitations about, like, oh, we're getting married in our early 20s, or no, no.

[B]

And I say this all the time to our family. I'm like, you guys, like, 22. I'm like, you guys.

[A]

I'm like, not one.

[B]

Not a single parent. Nobody Was like, hey guys, are you sure? Everybody was like, no, this is what's happening. And we love you and we love you and it's gonna be great. It's just like, wow. Like, when I really look at it well.

[A]

And again, because there are so many people that may watch this that are like, oh, 22. For them, whether it's because, like they watched their parents get married young or whatever, it was normal. But you, in the beginning of this interview, started by being like, girl, I didn't even think I wanted to get married.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

So it is a big deal that at 22, it was.

[B]

It's a mixture of that and a mixture of like, there are levels to 22. Like there's different styles of 22 year olds. But I was like the naive, like, very young, unpolished 22 year old. Like, I didn't have very much life experience. And so it's just interesting.

[A]

It is, but it's again, I think, like, why I'm, I was excited to talk to you is because as women, there's just like so many things that happen in our life that we want to plan for. And then obviously life just doesn't go as planned. And to hear you at a young age, getting married, I think, like, and knowing it was such a success, but it doesn't mean the whole ride was easy. Like, that's what I'm excited to get into. Yeah, so what, like a few months after getting married?

[B]

You just said three months.

[A]

Okay. What was going through your head when you found out that news?

[B]

I was confused because. How are you confused? Because my OB said expect it to take up to a year. And so I'm like, oh, if in my head I heard at least a year, I was thinking we were gonna be like bar hopping. Like, it's like, it's like, nope, you're pregnant and you're gonna be very, very sick. But I'm so grateful. I wouldn't change a thing, of course, but it was not on my bingo card.

[A]

And when all this went down, like, I guess now looking back, what advice would you give to someone listening who of like, how to embrace when your timeline suddenly changes.

[B]

Oh, there's no such thing as a timeline. I think is the bottom line. Things are going to shift. Like, life is ebbs and flows and. And you just kind of have to roll with the punches sometimes stuff's gonna suck, but you can always recover. And I think it's important also, like, sometimes you can feel like you're in your own bubble or feel isolated or like, you're the only person experiencing that thing. But there's always a resource or there's always a community of people who are experiencing similar things.

[A]

Did you have, like, any friends who were in similar life stages to you at that point?

[B]

No.

[A]

They're like, babe, we're at one.

[B]

No.

[A]

What are you doing?

[B]

No, actually, all of our friends are, like, just now having babies, like, the past four or five years. So we were the trailblazers.

[A]

What was the hardest part of being a young mom?

[B]

I think my identity. So because I have such an entrepreneurial spirit, not being able to call the shots all the time for myself was just freaking weird. And. And then learning how to kind of reset myself to make it all work while still having a family was weird, too. But it's made me really resilient and, like, a little gritty, so I'm grateful for it.

[A]

Yeah. Like, even thinking about how you said earlier, like, once my daughter turned about one, I was kind of looking around like, I love being a mom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I also have this other side of me that I can feel kind of wanting to come back up. And I think a lot of times women can experience, like, or so I've read, because I'm obviously not a mother yet, hopefully. But, like, women can experience this, like, mom guilt of, like, if I have a career and I'm not home. Like, did you experience that?

[B]

I still experience that. I still experience that. I'm almost like, I'm always in therapy talking about this, but what I realized is, like, if you lose. If you lose, like, for me being married and, like, with my husband, if you lose all of those things that were interesting about you, even for yourself, like, even the things that made me feel confident and cool, then what? Like, what are you doing? And so for me, it's always been important. I mean, I'm a little adhd, so I have a million and five ideas. I have a million interests. I'm very creative, and I like to explore those sides of me. And I think it keeps me who I am to my family and the people that I love, but it also allows me to have a certain level of confidence that I don't think I would have otherwise. Right.

[A]

It's like you grew up, like, we've talked about, like, having this thing that you were so passionate about, and to lose that creative side of yourself would just mean that you're almost, like, doing a disservice to yourself. And then, therefore, to your kids and to your husband, to your relationships, like, that's who you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you don't have to be. As women, we're always told, like. Or at least it feels like people just try to have us be one dimensional and you can do more. Not that it's easy.

[B]

No.

[A]

But it's an option.

[B]

It's an option. Like I say all the time, I'm like, when men do it, they're like, oh, my God, you're so multifaceted. Wow.

[A]

So talented.

[B]

What a renaissance man. And I'm like, what? Why can't women do the same thing? Like, what is. What is giving you the ick so bad that you feel like, I can't do these separate things, be good at them, or at least try to.

[A]

Like, what?

[B]

Like, what is the problem?

[A]

It is really frustrating. And then I think, thankfully, I feel like there's just been an uptick of people being like, you know what? I don't care anymore. I'm just gonna do it. Even if it pisses all of you off so much and it makes you uncomfortable to see a woman succeeding. Deal with that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On your own side, because I'm gonna keep pushing.

[B]

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[B]

It's a double edged sword because parts of it have afforded me doors to be open. I obviously have to walk through them and then put in the work to stay in the room. Um, but that I think would be the elephant in the room is like, I'm grateful for that side of things. But on the flip side, I. I, in the beginning, hated it so much. I, like, did not sign up for that. I also always thought, like, I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing basketball. Like, I. He said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach. Like, I thought I was gonna be, like, the girl out there getting it. So I didn't know. And so it just, like, it was weird. And sports fans are so different than, like, maybe entertainment world fans. And oftentimes it's, like, very ruthless. And so I think I wasn't expecting that either. I remember, like, one time right after my first was born, she was whiny, so I was like, let me just nurse her in the backseat. And Stefan was putting a bike or something in the trunk, and this woman, like, opens the car door and she sticks her head in, and she's like, I just wanted to see the baby. And I'm like, oh, excuse me. And she looks me dead in my face and goes, oh, honey, you know what you signed up for. And then, like, shuts the door on me. And I was just crying because I was like, postpartum. I was just bawling my eyes out, and I'm like, what? Like, is this what it's going to be like?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And so that the beginning phases were kind of scary for me.

[A]

And as a woman, like, did you ever experience any type of, like, direct scrutiny over just, like, you or what you looked like or how you were acting?

[B]

Oh, all the time. I feel like I still do, and that's okay.

[A]

But how did that impact you, though, early on when you were like, I. I'm still not equipped to handle this because now you're, like, seasoned. Yes, it affects you, but you now have the tools of, like, I've been here before. I know exactly how to handle this moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Doesn't mean it doesn't still hurt.

[B]

It was so depressing. And also, it was during that time when this, like, social media thing was just ramping up. And so people were going buck wild and just spewing opinions on things that didn't warrant opinions. And so I. I think for a while, yeah, I was very critical of myself because of the things that I was seeing.

[A]

It's so hard also to be the woman in a situation where you're like, men just don't get as much scrutiny. Like, they can maybe tell him, like, your shots suck tonight. But, like, the looks and all of that is just, like, not A factor of conversation as much?

[B]

No.

[A]

Did you talk to Steph about it, like, or did you kind of keep it within yourself? So it didn't.

[B]

I have. I do not have a bone in my body that can keep anything to myself. So if it comes to mind, it's coming out. And he. He's so gracious. Like, he tries to resonate with me, but he just can't. And he also comes from a place of, like, it's effing stupid. Like, it's not true, so why. And I'm like, but wait, like, listen.

[A]

To how it makes me feel.

[B]

And he's like, but why does it.

[A]

Make you feel like that?

[B]

It's not real.

[A]

I mean, that's so men. Where you're like, no, wait, But I want to talk about it for four more hours. Can you just sit down? And they're like, do you want me to solve it for you? It's not real. We both know it's not real. Blah, blah. He's like, no, go to bed. Go to sleep. You're like, in the bathroom, brushing your teeth, you're like, another thing. You, like, pop out. He's like, quite literally. Can you share, like, something that was said about you in the early days to just, like, paint the picture?

[B]

No one knows me on the spot. Okay, this one's kind of funny.

[A]

Now it's funny.

[B]

This one's kind of funny because at a certain point, like, I do have a round face. So, like, at a certain point, this was true because I was a little weightier, but there was this thing going around that said there's two things. It was like, that I look like spongebob's mom. Just look it up after. Okay, I. I felt that way. So then seeing it, I was like, damn, damn.

[A]

No.

[B]

What else? I think because he's, like, known for shooting threes, people will say something all the time. Like, oh, he shoots threes on and off the, like, come on.

[A]

Well, first of all, three, plus, like, a million. Like, you were, like, so fucking stunning and gorgeous. Like, I. I don't need to say that to you, but I have to say it because it's also, like, the people that are writing it are probably threes, but not you. But also, I feel like it's funny to see any athlete's wife. Everyone just first goes for their looks and. And they compare it.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

It's so strange that online conversation is so tired. Like, immediately just judging a wife of, like, a man that is well known and famous, doesn't even have to be sports. It can be entertainment, actors, whatever it be. It's always at the looks. And it's like, aren't we tired just a little bit?

[B]

I've also gotten the, like, and I've gotten this in person a lot. Is the, like, the stigma of being a wife of somebody that plays professional sports or girlfriend, Whatever, whatever. Oh, how does it feel to be said person's wife and also work? And I'm like, what? So I think there's a stigma out there that people don't do. These women aren't doing anything. That's not true. There's so many women doing incredible things a lot. Just, like, they do it under the radar, which is great.

[A]

Like, no. It's so misogynistic.

[B]

It's, like, so crazy.

[A]

Well, your husband makes so much money. Like, why would you ever want to work? And it's like, God forbid. I also have individual interests and needs and wants and goals in my life.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

It's all projection. Okay, wait. I want to play a game then, between you and Steph of who is more likely to. Okay. Who is more likely to take a work call during date night?

[B]

Stefan.

[A]

Do you guys have boundaries of like, no, we're done with work food.

[B]

I do. Where is the game?

[A]

You're like, do not disturb. Okay, who is more likely to call a family meeting?

[B]

Me.

[A]

What was the topic of the most recent, like, curry family meeting these days?

[B]

And I'm sorry, you guys, is this the camera I look at? Yeah, I'm sorry, you guys. It's just true. These days, it's calling meetings about our parents to discuss our parents.

[A]

When you become an adult and then you realize, like, oh, my parents. How did I get through an airport when I was younger? Like, how did you get me through to terminal B? Like, you start looking at your parents like, I love you more than life. Like, hello. What is going on? Who is more likely to splurge on a big purchase?

[B]

Me. That is not even a conversation.

[A]

Good for you.

[B]

Gonna be so proud of me for being honest too.

[A]

He's gonna be watching this, like, yes, babe, thank you for taking accountability. What is like, one of your splurges that you're like, I'm really actually proud of that one, actually.

[B]

My ring. So I. I reset my ring.

[A]

I've been staring at it. So that's a good answer, but I.

[B]

Feel like I'll have it forever.

[A]

Let's talk about your business now, because I really wanted to get to individually driven at a young age. You meet Steph, you have this like, oh, my Gosh, we didn't anticipate we were going to fall in love and then have babies and all the things. And then one day you woke up pretty quickly into having a kid, being like, wait, wait, I got to get myself back on track. Steph has his career. I want my career to get back on track.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What was the hardest part, early days of, like, really trying to start your business?

[B]

I think early days, it was just starting, so I. I basically started. So I figured I wasn't gonna transition back into acting yet. I was gonna try to figure out something for myself where I could kind of stay in one place. I've loved food my entire life. Like, I've cooked for my family since I was 11 years old, and people would often ask me for recipes and things like that. And so because we were the only people at the time in our family on the west coast. Everybody was on the East Coast. I was like, oh, I'll start, like, for the family. Like, I'm just gonna launch a blog. Blogs were the thing at the time. And Stefan's actually the one that encouraged it. Cause I would start and stop, start and stop. He was like, just do it. So I did it. Other people took notice. And then someone said, hey, people like to see these things, like, make a video. And so I started making videos. And from there it just. It grew. And I went to San Francisco cooking school for a little bit. And then the. The. The station that broadcasts the warriors games at the time, they reached out and they were like, hey, we really like your videos. Like, what if we gave you a 30 minute slot before every game locally and we did a cooking segment? And I was like, yeah. And so that was like my first TV cooking direct to camera. And then from there it grew to the book, and then the book to Food Network. And so it was like I had this robust, like, food television career very quickly that happened pretty organically, and I. I've, like, enjoyed every minute of it.

[A]

What has been, do you think, the hardest situation that you've had to navigate as a female business owner?

[B]

I.

[A]

Why are you laughing?

[B]

Sorry, I. Cause I don't know if I can say this, but I'll just say it anyway. The hardest. There's two. The first is. Was hearing the no's as a woman in food. So I didn't realize how many barriers at the time. Now it's very different. I was either too young or too young of a woman, or there was nobody that looked like me. So instead of being like, you don't have a demographic Here, let's create one. It was like, no, you don't have a demographic here. And so I think that was shocking to me, getting people to take me seriously. Cause at the time, I think I was now 24 or 25. And so getting people to see me and realize that I had talent outside of what people were assuming, I think has been really difficult.

[A]

I think also what you were kind of alluding to when you were saying that people were looking to see if you actually had talent outside of maybe what people were expecting you to be known for. And kind of what we were talking about with the money thing earlier, it's like, yes. I think there's a lot of people that, like, you're Steph Curry's wife, like, go sit in the stands. And, like, he makes so much money. Just be happy. And so there's the one, why are you working? Question. And then there's the two. Now that you're bringing up of, like, people maybe assuming, oh, is she getting what she's getting? Just because she is. This guy's right. How does that make you feel when you hear those comments?

[B]

It feels crazy. And actually, what you just said, like, I recall, like, sitting there, you said in the stands, a reporter actually literally said on live television, she needs to sit there and look pretty like other people. I think people just don't realize that there is a life outside of where we are now in our adulthood. I think people can't see. See past, like, the surface one sheet.

[A]

Yep. Or you know what? They don't want to.

[B]

They don't want to. They don't want to.

[A]

Which sucks.

[B]

It sucks so bad. But I'm gonna keep trying.

[A]

Yeah, we're gonna keep going.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even if you guys don't like it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Women are just gonna keep on coming, and they're gonna be like, oh, my God, here they come again. Throughout your career.

[B]

Sorry, that's crazy.

[A]

Well, we may also come again, hopefully, if you can make us. If not, we'll do it ourselves. Okay, here we go. Talking about, you know, these industries that you were trying to break into, having people look at you being like, we haven't seen someone like you do it before. Or also you being too young, all these things. A lot of these industries that you were trying to break into were heavily male dominated, Very male dominated, also probably controlled by white men. Like, how did you get the confidence in moments to advocate for yourself?

[B]

I didn't. I didn't. At the time, I didn't have that. I kind of was just going where I was Told. But it took for somebody to advocate for me. So it took somebody at the network who was a woman who just so happened to have their first child to be like, no, she's not too young. And I see it, and we're gonna do it. And I'm like, forever grateful. But I think now in my 30s, I've gotten pretty good at advocating for myself or just living in that vulnerability of what that means. So even if it's not well received, at least I'm satisfied. And I know that I've spoken up for myself because I have in the past tended to be very timid and shy and reserved for the most part.

[A]

So you saying that a woman kind of, like, paid it forward to you and was like, no, let's give this girl a chance. That makes me so hopeful because I feel like even you saying that it. The fact that there's. She was probably the only woman in the room and then she saw something in you, I think it's a great message to. There's so many women that will be listening to this, and it's like, I know sometimes it can feel like, as the only woman, just be, like, grateful that you are at least a woman in the room, but like, to lift other women up with you is how we're gonna stop feeling so isolated and alone in those rooms with men. So, like, what a beautiful moment for you now, you being kind of maybe more in the position of power.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How have you been able to uplift and kind of advocate for more women in your industry?

[B]

So through all of this, through my culinary background and hospitality and all of that, we've really, like, realized the power of storytelling. And so we had Sweet July magazine for a while. We have Sweet July productions and Sweet July books now. And so the way that I feel like I pay it forward is by finding badass women in all of those spaces and giving them the platform to tell their stories. It's so much more rewarding. It's like what you're doing, it's so much more rewarding than trying to go around for yourself. You know, when you lock arms with strong, creative, outspoken women, it just. It's so much more powerful than doing it alone. No.

[A]

Changes everything. Like, you're like, oh, my God. And. And we all usually start alone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, that's the thing that's so. It's so exciting and eye opening when you start to work with more women who are like minded, and you're like, oh, my God, why was it this hard to get to this place where I finally get to work with women because a lot of times it takes you being in a position of privilege to then create that around environment around you in a work setting. And it's incredible that you are doing that. Your foundation that you have with Steph, Eat, Learn, Play. Can you talk about, like, what is the most rewarding part of being able to do that together?

[B]

I think the single most important thing we'll. We'll do in our careers for sure, is Eat, Learn, Play. So basically, we provide access to quality nutrition, quality education, and safe places to play for kids in the Oakland Unified School District. The statistics are devastating when you look at how kids are learning within the school system. But then when you pan out and you look from a bird's eye view at why that is, and you realize it's those three simple things. Like, it's heartbreaking and no child should have to be without that. And so we partnered with the school district and founded Eat, Learn, Play, like, right before the pandemic started and have been able to make some pretty impactful change so far. There's literally so much more to do, but I think it's so important to us because we're gonna start to see a shift for the future generations. And if we lay the foundation now, it'll be smooth sailing down the road. And like, a lot of people ask us why we're so siphoned into just Oakland, and it's because you gotta crawl before you walk. And if we can solve the problems there and create a really robust, foolproof model for other communities to take it and run with it, we don't have to be attached to it. That's not why we're doing it. And so if they can just take the model and implement it there, I feel like that's how we'll see the most, most impactful change.

[A]

I mean, it's incredible to even hear you talk about it more because you can tell how passionate you are about it. But also it's like, yeah, it doesn't. I love that you're saying, like, the goal isn't for Steph and I to have our faces on this. Like, it's literally like we're trying to use what we have to make change. It's incredible you're doing that. Okay, you. Obviously, we were earlier talking about Sweet July and how you've had all of these moments, but now you have sweet July skin.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Talk to me about. Well, first of all, talk to me about where did that name come from?

[B]

So Sweet July started because I realized that a Lot of the, like, high endorphin excitement, happy moments in my life happen at one time, and that was in July because of the kids being born, our anniversary, having my man home in the off season. And I realized, like, after the gratefulness would kind of taper off. Like there was this like heightened gratefulness during that. Like, I'm so grateful. Thank you, God. And then it would kind of, I'm just being honest, it would taper off and I was like, no, no, no, that's not okay. Like, you can find so much joy in like the smallest of things. Like, I'm sure you get joy when you drink. You're unwell.

[A]

I do, right?

[B]

It's like a cup of coffee, putting on a lip gloss. Like, what are those small things that you can just pause for a second and be like, no, I can have gratitude in this moment and just appreciate it a little bit more and find the beauty in the small things. And so it came about that way. But yeah, we launched Sweet July Skin. We just celebrated our second birthday. Congrats and thank you.

[A]

What made you want to get into the skincare industry?

[B]

Well, I struggle. And obviously to this day with my skin, I always have, like my mom and my grandma do not. So I must have got the other side of the genetics. It's fine. But I started to remember all of these, like traditional island remedies that they would speak to to help them with their skin. And so I started to do some research and it was really science backed and so. And I'm just a skincare junkie, honestly. So we started working with a lab and a chemist and formulating Sweet July Skin based off of these, like, Caribbean superfoods backed by science. And so that's kind of how it was born. It's so ironic though. There's like, things you can, can control and there's things you just can't. So, like, even right now, like, I'm having this crazy hormonal breakout. And so the confidence of being like, I own a skincare brand and this being out of my control right now is crazy. I know there's so many women dealing with like, pcos and like different things, and there's just some things that you cannot control. And I think what's been so great about these products is they're clean, vegan for the most part, and you don't. These aren't products that you're going to use on your skin and it's going to add to the problem. It's going to help keep them at bay. It's anti inflammatory. It's not going to irritate you. And so I think I love it for that reason and I'm kind of like a walking spokesperson right now because my skin ebbs and flows and that's okay.

[A]

I really think it's incredible though that you're just saying it how it is. Because let's be real. Like so much goes into marketing of certain quote unquote celebrity brands, whether it's makeup or skin care or clothing or whatever. And like my frustration in the skincare industry, especially with celebrities is like, girl, some of us don't have the most perfect skill skin. And so to act like you got that skin from this line, even though I've seen your skin has been perfect forever, like real. But I'm not saying you're never going to break out cuz that's just your body a lie.

[B]

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[B]

And I think I can speak on both of our behalf when I say I think we would want them to see all of the successes and failures, triumphs, tribulations, but see one, that the most important thing was still family. And then two, see that we were better in all of it regardless of which one of us it was doing it together.

[A]

What do you hope your personal legacy is?

[B]

So I'm big on like impact over legacy and so I think, you know, like at the end of the day, I guess it doesn't matter what anybody has to think or say, like, what did I do while I was Here. And so as long as what I've done and what I've offered to the world or things that I've tried to change have been impactful, then that will be good enough for me. And as long as my kids are nice people, I could care less what they do for a living when they get older or what path they choose to take if they're. If they're nice people who care about their neighbor. Like, I will feel like I'd done a great job.

[A]

I am so happy I got to sit down with you because you have such a warm, kind energy.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

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[B]

No. I mean, it was at first.

[A]

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