Miles McCreary (8:31)

No, but James comes from Jacob.

Host (8:34)

I don't even. I don't even. Now we're completely. I don't even know what to believe anymore. James comes from Jacob. Like the name.

Miles McCreary (8:40)

Yeah, like all the J. A names in originally in Hebrew were Jakob.

Host (8:46)

So James is like a version of Jacob?

Miles McCreary (8:48)

Yep.

Host (8:49)

I don't believe that. The pilgrimage route known as the Camino de Santiago literally means the Way of St. James. This leads to the cathedral of Santiago de Compostela in Galicia. And this is where the relics of St. James are believed to be held. What's crazy about his relics is that they're said to have been miraculously transported to this cathedral after his death, making the cathedral a major pilgrimage site that continues to draw thousands of people each year. Imagine this. You're 30ft underground, digging through frozen earth with spoons and mess hall plates. Nazi guards patrol overhead when one wrong move, one loose pebble, and it's over. But on this night in 1944, 76 Allied prisoners would attempt the impossible, tunneling their way to freedom in the largest prisoner of war escape of World War II. And centuries earlier, in a cold stone chamber, a teenage girl in armor stood before her accusers. Her crime. Leading armies, speaking to angels, and daring to challenge the most powerful men in Europe. Joan of Arc's trial would become one of history's most infamous moments. These are just two stories from Today in History, the newsletter that brings you the most fascinating events from the past, delivered fresh to your inbox. From epic wars to religious rebellions, ancient mysteries to modern marvels, don't miss another piece of history. Scan the QR code now or click the link in the description to sign up. For today in history.

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Host (10:47)

Then Andrew is the next one to go. That's right. His name means manly or brave. Andrew was the brother of Peter, who we're going to mention later. He's got an absolutely brutal death coming up. He was one of Jesus first disciples and played a crucial role in the early spread of Christianity. He was born in Bethsaidia. Bethsaida. And was a fisherman by trade. But he was initially a disciple of John the Baptist. Yes, the wild man himself. However, his life changed profoundly when John pointed to Jesus and said, look, Lamb of God. Causing Andrew to follow Jesus. So in John 1:35, 40, he says when the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus. Turning around, Jesus saw them and he asked, what do you want? They said, rabbi, where are you staying? And he says, come and you'll see. So then they went and saw where he was staying and they spent the day with him. It was about 4 in the afternoon. Andrew, Simon, Peter's brother, was one of the two who heard what John had said and who had followed Jesus. So there you go. That's when he became a follower. And the Bible doesn't explicitly state who the other disciple is that was with Andrew at the time. You think that they would have thrown that in there. But many scholars believe it was John, the son of Zebedee, who as we mentioned earlier, was James's brother. This, it gets a little confusing, but just track with me here. Andrew's super stoked on Jesus and you know he loves John's message, so you can imagine he loves Jesus message even more. And yeah, he's immediately brought, he immediately brings Peter in to meet the Messiah. He's like, dude, you're not going to believe who I kicked it with today. The Messiah, the homie, the main dog. And this act of introducing Peter to Jesus reflects Andrew's role as the connector and the evangelist within the early church. That off rip he's like, dude, I'm getting the Whole family involved. So after Jesus goes to heaven, Andrew embarks on a missionary journey to spread the Gospel. Historical and traditional accounts indicate that he preached in regions such as Greece, Scythia and Asia Minor, AKA Ukraine, and like southern Russia and parts of Turkey. Ezebius, an early church historian, mentions Andrew's work in Scythia, where he's believed to have introduced Christianity to local populations. He's also mentioned in the Greek traditions, proving that Andrew's Christian teachings extended all the way to the cities of Petrus and Byzantium, which later becomes Constantinople, you know, the hub of Christianity within the Holy Roman Empire. While in Patras, Andrew's preaching led to the conversion of many, including the wife of a local proconsul named Agius. Now, this part is, you know, a little off the record. Perhaps it's a little apocryphal, but the story comes from the Acts of Andrew, which is a non canonical book in the Bible. So some people dispute the verisimilitude or the truthfulness of the actual text, but the details of the account sort of explain Andrew's death. Andrew is said to have traveled to the region of Patras and preached the Gospel. But his message captivates Maximilia, the wife of Aegeus. She then decides to embrace Christianity and live her life as a virgin. And guess who is pissed about this? That's right. The old ball and chain. The old blue balls and chain Back home. Her husband is pissed and orders Andrew's execution by crucifixion. That's tough. Oof. I mean, that's. That's brutal. I mean, you gotta wonder, like, I don't. I feel like Jesus didn't talk that much about, you know, if you're married, being a virgin again. Also can. She can't be a virgin if she's already married, right? I figure if she's a virgin, she's. Or if she's married, she's not a virgin. So I guess this is like when girls will do, like, the recycled virginity thing. She's like, I'm a virgin now. It's like, you got dogged out on your wedding night. No, no, no. But now I am. All right. Just seems a little convenient. And then you get this guy killed. I swear, if she stopped at this point, it's the biggest bitch of all time, right? Like, she gets this guy killed, and then out of nowhere she's like, no, I'm actually, I'm not. I was never a Christian. I was just joking around. That's wild. I mean, yeah, it just goes to show if you're going to convert someone to Christianity, don't make them a virgin on top of that. I mean, that's wild.

Miles McCreary (15:06)

So how did Andrew die?

Host (15:08)

He converts this girl who's married to the guy to Christianity.

Miles McCreary (15:12)

Yeah.

Host (15:14)

And then she becomes a virgin and. Or celibate rather.

Miles McCreary (15:18)

Yeah.

Host (15:18)

And then the guy who's like a pro consul, like high up in the middle in the government gets him killed and crucifies him.

Miles McCreary (15:25)

Oh, wow.

Host (15:26)

All right.

Miles McCreary (15:27)

So the first one was also. How did the first guy die?

Host (15:30)

Beheading.

Miles McCreary (15:31)

Beheading. Okay.

Host (15:32)

Yeah. This is like King Henry's wives.

Miles McCreary (15:34)

Got it.

Host (15:34)

Beheading, first beheaded, crucified, survived. Got it. Type vibe. But according to the tradition, Andrew requested to be crucified on an X shaped cross rather than the standard Roman cross. He felt unworthy to die in the same manner as Jesus Christo. This distinct cross is now known as St. Andrew's Cross and has become an iconic symbol associated with him. But Andrew's story doesn't stop there. Uh, he continued to preach his message while still on the cross. In the Acts of Andrew, he's quoted as saying, oh, cross, most welcome and long anticipated, I come to youo with a willing and joyful heart. Receive me, the disciple of him who hung upon youn, for I've always loved you and desired to embrace you. Damn, that shit is kind of hardcore, to be honest with you, bro. Imagine you see a guy get crucified and you're like, oh man, this guy fucked up. And he's like, oh, I love the cross. I'm so grateful to be embraced by this wooden cross that I'm getting my hands like nailed into. That's insane. As he hangs on the cross, a crowd of witnesses were there to watch him. And so he began to talk to the witnesses and goes, men and women who are here present and witness my suffering, do not think of this punishment as a cruel end. It is not a punishment to die for Christ, but rather a gateway to eternal life. According to the book, the crowd is moved by Andrew's faith and words and said, this man is righteous. Why does he suffer such torment? Release him, for he has done nothing wrong. And obviously the guards and the council of the region of Greece for sure listen to some random people. They don't. Andrew then begins to pray and beg God to allow him to die, saying, Lord Jesus Christ, do not allow me to be taken down from this cross alive. Let me join you in glory, for you have allowed me to share in your suffering. Here we can see that Andrew is Thankful and practically finds it to be an honor to die in the same way as Jesus. It said that he took his final breaths. Andrew said, receive me, O Lord, my shepherd, so that I may rejoice eternally in your presence. I mean, that's hardcore, to be honest with you. Again, I brought up Alex O'Connor before shout out to him and he made a reference that it is used by many, I guess you could say, religious or Christian theologians in support of this account of Christ's death and resurrection. That one element that you could point to as proof of the resurrection of Christ is that so many of his ardent followers were willing to literally die and rejoiced in their death because of what this guy did. So it kind of leads credence to perhaps there was something supernatural or interesting happening. I'm shocked at how stoked Andrew is to have died, allegedly. I mean, that's like an insane story. Archaeological and historical evidence support some of the elements of Andrew's story in Petras. The Cathedral of St Andrew in Petra stands as a testament to his legacy. People from all around the world visit the site every year and it's even believed to house relics of the apostle, including a portion of the cross he was crucified on. But that's not all it is said to hold. The church even has what is believed to be a part of St Andrew's skull and one of his fingers. So there you have it. Now let's go on to Peter, also known as Simon Peter, which is a whole. There's a whole name change thing that goes on here, which I shall explain. This guy Peter, right, holds a foundational place in Christian history. He's one of Jesus's closest homies. He's like the leader basically of the apostles. He's also. He denies Jesus three times. But, you know, why do we gotta dwell on old shit, right? He's again born in Bethsaida, just like his brother Andrew. It's like a small little fishing village on the shores of the Sea of Galilee. Ever heard of it? The Bible says that Peter was a fisherman by trade. But his life took a dramatic turn when he was called by Jesus to become his follower. We can look to the Gospel of Matthew, which it says, come follow me and I will make you fishers of men. Peter's impulsive and passionate nature often place him at the forefront of the disciples. He was instrumental in many key events recorded in the Gospels. For instance, Peter is famously remembered for declaring Jesus as the Messiah, to which Jesus responds, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church. It's a pretty solid trade. Hey, you're the Messiah. Oh, hey, you get to be the first pope. It's pretty chill and fun fact. Peter actually comes directly from the Greek word petros, which means rock or stone. So again, the reference in the translation of the New Testament makes sense. It's like, yo, you're Peter, you're Petros, you're the rock. I'm building my church on this rock.

Miles McCreary (20:35)

So this is not Simon the Zealot?

Host (20:38)

I don't know if I'd call him.

Miles McCreary (20:39)

A zealot, but isn't there another one named Simon?

Host (20:42)

I think so. Let's find out. According to this, Simon the Zealot is not the same as Simon Peter. Both are named Simon of the Bible. Simon the Zealot is a distinct disciple of Jesus, differentiating from Simon Peter by the additional title the Zealot. So that's who Peter is. And then after Jesus, crucifixion and resurrection, Peter begins to emerge as a pivotal leader in the early church, kind of, kind of following through on Jesus. Whole thing. You're going to become a fisher of men, which is sort of a funny little. I mean, it's kind of linguistically, it's crazy. I wonder if. Does it work in Greek the same way? Like, you're not going to be a fisherman. That's like a Jay Z lyric. I'm not a fisherman. I'm a fisher of man. You know what I mean? But, like, what are the odds that works in English and Greek? Can we figure that out? So what does Peter do? He's a missionary. He starts going around Jerusalem where he's talking about Jesus, you know, a guy that just got murdered by the people of the region, and he's facing persecution from some of the Jewish authorities. Acts 2, 1441 recounts Peter's powerful sermon during Pentecost, which led to the conversion of about 3,000 people. Yeah, on the day of Pentecost, the apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit. And the Bible says suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from the heavens, filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then they saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. The tongues, in this sense means that they were able to speak different languages potentially so that they could spread the word of God to other people. Other people suggest that maybe they were just speaking in an unknown language and they were possessed by the power of the spirit. It kind of depends on what church in the south you go to once this happens. The people of the city heard their language being spoken and came to see what was going on. Some of the people were intrigued, while others claimed that they were just drunk and rambling. But the Bible states that. Then Peter stood up with the 11, raised his voice and addressed the crowd. Fellow Jews, and all of you who live in Jerusalem, which is how I'm going to be addressing just anyone ever again. Fellow Jews, hello, Jews. Let me explain this to you. Listen carefully to what I say. I mean, the Bible is just fire. Let me just translate that first sentence. What's up, Jews? Listen, and listen close, all right? These people are not drunk, as you guys are all saying. It's only nine in the morning. They're not gonna be hammered at night. What are we, Irish? We're Jews. We're not gonna be drinking that early. We're gonna get a tummy ache and be have a headache by fucking noon. And no, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel. Then Peter goes on to explain the prophecy of Joel in the last days. Go say, I'll pour my spirit into the people. Everyone's going to see visions, and there's going to be prophecy. Old men will dream dreams, yada, yada, yada. There's going to be fire. It's a whole thing. All right? This marks the beginning of a rapidly growing church movement, and Peter's kind of on the forefront of evangelizing all the people in Antioch, which is, you know, a major center of early Christianity. But historical records and the church tradition assert that Peter spent his final years in Rome. That's right. Rome is not a great place to be if you're a Christian. Right after the death of Jesus. As you can imagine, it's controlled, obviously, by a strong military presence. At this point, there is an emperor that has taken over. The Republic of Rome no longer stands and is ruled by strict military force. The emperor is deified in certain ways as a God. And it's, you know, if you're coming in there saying that, oh, you're not the God, and all of this pantheon of all of your polytheistic gods, those aren't gods either. There's only one true God, and his name is Jesus. And he got murdered in Judea a couple decades ago, it's not going to be a popular opinion. So his life in Rome is documented by an early church father, a couple of them. Ignatius of Antioch and Clement of Rome, Tertullian a prominent theologian of the second century, explicitly mentions Peter's death in his work Prescription against Heretics. It's a nice prescription. If you ever meet a heretic, toss him that book. And he says, at Rome, Nero was the first who stained with blood. The rising faith then is Peter girt by another when he is made fast to the cross. So there you have it. Another one down, beheaded, crucified on an X, and then crucified, but this time upside down. That's right. We can see from this that Peter was crucified under Nero. And according to tradition, Peter requested to be crucified upside down as he felt unworthy to die in the same manner of Jesus, just like his brother did. Shout out to Andrew. This extraordinary act of humility has been immortalized in Christian art and literature for a while. Again, archaeological evidence continues to support Peter's connection to Rome. The Vatican necropolis beneath St. Peter's Basilica contains a tomb believed to house Peter's remains. But it wasn't until 1950, when Pope Pius XII announced in his Christmas radio message that the tomb of St. Peter had officially been found. The tomb's inscriptions and artifacts align with early Christian veneration of Peter's burial site, giving legitimacy to the claims. But the tomb isn't the only thing related to Peter at the at the spot. It's believed that his skull is on display at the arch Basilica of St. John Lateran, including the skull of St. Paul. While these skulls haven't been scientifically proven to belong to saints, they're sort of honored and venerated by many Catholics as if they were. So there you have it. If you ever see an upside down cross, it might not necessarily be only satanic, as many people like to point out. You might just be a hardcore Christian, but maybe the hardest core, maybe you're like, I'm not even, you know, comfortable venerating Christ because he's so deified, he's so, so pure and so divine. I'd rather, you know, have Peter's cross.

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Host (27:19)

It's interesting all Right, let's move on to Philip, spelled with one L, which annoys me. I don't. Like. It just seems. Visually, it just bothers me. Philip with one L. But he's one of the twelve apostles, and he holds a significant place in the early Christian narrative as one of Jesus's first followers. It's just so funny to me that all of Jesus follows have such, like, normal names, because they're normal to us. Like, you know, people named James and, you know, people named Philip, you know, Andrews, like, you know, the whole. The whole litany of the apostles. But when you think about it, like, these are ancient names, like, it's like, as ancient as Zebedee or Bethsaida. You just don't know. People name those names.

Miles McCreary (27:58)

I never met a Zebedee who wasn't just a big pot smoker, you know.

Host (28:01)

Zeb, you've met, you know, someone named Zebedee? Yeah.

Miles McCreary (28:03)

You didn't. One in, like, in my high school, one in my middle school. Zeb. They're like skater kids who always smoked weed.

Host (28:10)

They're white kids. Yeah. Zebedee.

Miles McCreary (28:12)

Yeah.

Host (28:13)

They're not running backs for, like, Alabama.

Miles McCreary (28:15)

No. Two white kids.

Host (28:16)

I'm shocked by this. So I knew a couple Phillips, though, again, one of Jesus's first followers. Also born in Bethsaida, same city as Peter and Andrew. Big town for being one of the OG Jesus freaks. Shout out to them. Philip's calling is described in the Gospel of John where it says, the next day, Jesus decided to leave for Galilee, finding Philip. He said to him, follow me. It was easy to get followers back in the day, right? Jesus just pulls up and goes, follow me. Bang. Best friends for life. That's awesome. Philip then found Nathanael and told him, we have found the one Moses wrote about in the law and about whom the prophets also wrote. Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Nazareth. Can anything good come from there? Crazy diss from Nathaniel, right? I mean, that's. That's hilarious. It'd be the equivalent of being like, dude, we found the Messiah, the one people have been talking about Jesus of Hoboken. And I was like, what? What has come from Hoboken? Sorry, Jersey. But it is a funny concept that Nathaniel's like, dissing an entire region. He's like a local comic. Like, Nazareth wouldn't be caught dead in Nazareth. They have potholes. But Philip says, how about you just pull up and just see it for yourself? Jesus had personally invited Philip to follow him. And in turn, Philip brought Nathaniel, who's also known as Bartholomew. We'll talk more about him later. Following Jesus, resurrection and ascension, Philip took on the mission of preaching the gospel in distant lands. Historical and apocryphal sources indicate that Philip traveled extensively, focusing much of his missionary work in the regions of Phrygia and Harapolis. Located in modern day Turkey, Herapolis in particular becomes a significant site of Philip's ministry, where he reportedly performs miracles and converts many to Christianity. Seems pretty chill. Kick it with Jesus for a while and then you start going on tour. You're hitting the road, living like a real comic life. According to church tradition, Philip's preaching often brought him into conflict with pagan practices and authorities. Again, this whole idea of monotheism is, you know, pretty crazy if you're, you know, a pagan follower of the dark arts. So what makes Philip interesting is that his martyrdom is actually like a key element of his legacy. While the details of his death vary between, you know, which primary sources you're reading, the most widely accepted accounts suggest that Philip was crucified or stoned to death in Hieropolis. I feel like we probably could have seen that coming, right? I mean, we're three out of four on crucifixions. The apocryphal book Acts of Philip, which again is not included in the traditional canon, but can be looked at to understand the idea of the early church at the time. It's a 4th century text that provides a detailed narrative of his martyrdom. It describes Philip's opposition to the worship of idols, which ultimately leads to his arrest and execution. Chapter 34 of the Acts of Philip state, when the proconsul saw that Philip was firm and would not obey his orders to sacrifice to the idols, he commanded that he should be hanged downward and his ankles and thighs pierced with iron hooks. Not ideal, but once again crucified, seems to be upside down, hanging head downward, while on the cross, Philip began to pray. He says again, according to the Acts of Philip, Philip cries out in a loud voice saying, o Lord Jesus Christ, the light of my soul, the brightness of my life, in whom I have believed, whom I have loved, in whom I dwell, do not leave me alone, but send your angel to receive my soul and bring me into your kingdom. As Philip prayed, there was a great earthquake and the earth split open, swallowing up the proconsul and anyone who had crucified him. But Philip, still hanging, commended his spirit to the Lord and gave up his soul in peace. And the heavens opened and they saw the glory of God. And the angels descended to receive the soul of Philip, who is taken up to the eternal light of the Lord. I mean, that's awesome, right? The people that crucify you immediately get swallowed up in the earth by an earthquake. But if we're gonna do anything, we don't gotta kill those guys. Just maybe get me off this cross. That would have been wish number one from ya boy. I would just been like, hey, we can call fair. Fair. I came in, messed up their whole religious tradition. I was trying to save them, but I was messing around with what they were doing and then they tried to kill me. How about we just get me off the cross, I'll kick it back to Mykonos or something. I'll chill on the beach for a while, talk about religion there, spread the gospel, you know, near some open water. And then we don't gotta kill, you know what I mean? Like, it just seems like you do this whole earthquake thing just to kill the people. But I guess, I don't know, maybe going to heaven is like the ultimate prize. So maybe that's really what he wanted. Like, kill me, kill them. And I bet you they both go to the afterworld together. And one's going upstairs and one's going downstairs and they're like, ah, fuck, this whole thing is real. Damn it. And again, at this spot, Hieropolis, there is some archeological evidence that is typically venerated and supported the martyrdom of of Philip and kind of cemented his legacy. Excavations have uncovered a 5th century martyrdom believed to be dedicated to Philip. The structure is located near the ancient city's theater and is thought to mark the site of his execution and burial. The martyrdom significance as a pilgrimage destination underscores Philip's enduring influence on Christian history. All right, let's talk about Matthew, shall we? Matthew, also known as Levi, he's a tax collector before he became one of Jesus disciples, one of his main homies. His profession was often associated with corruption and collaboration with the Roman authorities, making him an unlikely candidate to become a disciple. Like, people hated the tax collectors. These guys were scumbags. I mean, they're kind of scumbags now, to be honest. Like, it's not like people love the irs, right? Miles is nodding his head. You are Miles Anonymous. DG Republican taxation is theft. My right, Miles, am I right? What are the odds that even back then people hated taxes? Is that not weird to you? That all 2000 years ago people were like, yeah, fuck the tax man.

Miles McCreary (34:47)

Yeah, I think they were probably out of hand and levied by a king.

Host (34:53)

Here we are. Yeah, so.

Miles McCreary (34:55)

But also they had good roads they.

Host (34:57)

Had better roads than us. Yeah, think about that.

Miles McCreary (35:00)

That's true.

Host (35:00)

And we're paying more in taxes than they are, and we can't even get a road that'll last more than two decades.

Miles McCreary (35:06)

Yeah, I wonder what the percentage was.

Host (35:08)

Their roads work perfectly. Yeah. And they all lead to the same place.

Miles McCreary (35:13)

That is true. There's a great grid system.

Host (35:15)

Right. And we're trying to keep our roads going for a week. And there's a pothole. It's, like, insane. Anyway, taxation without representation. Yada, yada, yada. You got what I'm saying? So he's a tax collector. No one likes him. Yet Jesus calls him and says the same old words. The two words that everyone knows follow me. Matthew immediately leaves his position. I mean, it's basically Wolf of Wall Street. Matthew's like, hey, if you can promise me a spot in heaven, I'll quit my job right now. He shows him a receipt. He's like, boss, I've quit. I'm not a tax collector anymore. I'm following Jesus. So Matthew leaves his position and he hosts a banquet for Jesus and other tax collectors to hear his teaching. A seminar, so to speak. Matthew is depicted as having some form of. This is honestly wild. If you've seen the Chosen, the TV show, some people depict Matthew as having autism in the series the Chosen. And many people have gained a deeper respect for him considering his challenges that he may have faced in ancient times. Being tizzed out. I don't know where this comes from. There's no evidence for that even being true. They just put it in the shell. They just. In the cho. Look it up. In the Chosen, they said Matthew is tizzed out. Some people have come to this conclusion due to the fact that he's good with numbers and has a fascination with numbers. I mean, it might. Did you look it up?

Miles McCreary (36:43)

Yeah. And there's no, like, there's no biblical standing for him having autism, but in.

Host (36:50)

The Chosen, he's autistic, right?

Miles McCreary (36:52)

Yeah. In a 2021 article, it says, Matthew reminds us that Jesus even calls the disabled to lead and uniquely participate in his mission.

Host (37:01)

I wouldn't say they're disabled, but Jesus said it. His words, not mine. By the way, that is Miles, if anyone's just tuning in midway through this podcast. So let's drop an F Miles in the chat. So, yeah, Matthew's story begins after Jesus heals a man who's paralyzed. Luke chapter 5 states, after this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting in his tax Booth. Jesus pulls up, says, yo, hop in. We're going to save the world. Levi got up, left everything, followed him. Then they go to this banquet and there's a large crowd of tax collectors who are eating with them. But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, who belonged to their sect, complained to the disciples. Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners? So honestly, a good question. Yo, Jesus, why are you hanging over these scumbags? Jesus answers them, it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. So just remember that if your wife's ever like, why are you at the strip club? Be like, hey, babe, it's not the healthy who need a doctor. It's not the women with dads who need a daddy. You know what I mean? Wait, what? Yeah, you get what I'm saying? I'm just saying if you need to. Those are the words of Christ himself, a true bar. I mean, it's regardless of if you think Jesus is Lord. Like, there's many people probably listening to this. Miles himself, the apostates of the church that don't necessarily see Jesus as the true messiah. You got to acknowledge the guy has insane bars. It just like the message is like impeccable and is just all one of the all time chillest bros ever. At the very least, you got to give me that. So this act of, you know, meeting all the Pharisees at this big banquet leads the beginning of the transformative journey for Matthew, AKA Levi. As one of the apostles after Jesus's resurrection and ascension, Matthew dedicates his life to spreading the gospel. Much like all the other ones, he goes all around. But Matthew's story gets a little crazy. Early church tradition suggests that he traveled extensively, preaching in regions such as Ethiopia, Persia, and possibly parts of the Mediterranean. I don't know how they drew straws for this, but if you tell me, hey, you're going to Ethiopia, I'm like, are you sure there's nothing in the Mediterranean? I feel like Amalfi could really use the word in Jesus Christ, but that's what he did. Ethiopia, Persia and the Mediterranean. His missionary work focused on converting both Jews and Gentiles, emphasizing the universality of Jesus message. Historical accounts attribute several miracles to Matthew, including healing and exorcisms, which helped establish Christianity in the region which he ministered. But the miracles are for another episode. This is for, unfortunately, the demise.

Miles McCreary (39:49)

Oh, so tax collectors back in the day. I just looked this up. Were like crooked.

Host (39:53)

Yeah. They were stealing. They would go and be like, hey, you owe a thousand dollars. And they'd be like, oh, here you go. But they actually owed 700. They were just pocketing extra money.

Miles McCreary (40:00)

Got it, got it, got it.

Host (40:01)

Because there was no rule system.

Miles McCreary (40:02)

Yeah.

Host (40:03)

They would just show up, be like, hey, here's what you owe.

Miles McCreary (40:04)

Yeah. And it's signed by this guy. And if you don't, we'll come. Okay.

Host (40:07)

And we'll murder you.

Miles McCreary (40:08)

Yeah.

Host (40:09)

And then they'll say, I'll be like, hey, this guy wouldn't give me the $700. And they go, you said it was a thousand. Oh, it was a thousand.

Miles McCreary (40:15)

That's why it was wild. Jesus was hanging with him.

Host (40:18)

Yeah.

Miles McCreary (40:18)

This guy was, like, crooked for a long time. Probably like, caused the worst.

Host (40:21)

It'd be like hanging with like the.

Miles McCreary (40:22)

Mafia, literally the mob.

Host (40:24)

Like a racket.

Miles McCreary (40:25)

Yeah.

Host (40:25)

So when Jesus comes back, he's gonna be kicking it with old, you know, Tommy Rigatoni. Yeah.

Miles McCreary (40:31)

Okay.

Host (40:32)

He's gonna be with the worst of the worst. Keep an eye out.

Miles McCreary (40:34)

Because in my head I was like, why are people mad? Jesus hanging with, like, a suit. Like, just like a, you know, an IRS suit.

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Mobile.Com According to Ethiopian tradition, he was stabbed to death while performing missionary work. It's just such a shame none of these guys make it just to retire. Like I don't know really what the pension system is for me and one of the early church fathers, but yeah, we're I think six for six right now on just getting merked. Shout out to Matthew, man. Pour one out. If you're listening at home, just pour one out for one of the homies. These accounts suggest that his preaching and miracles provoked opposition from local authorities and religious leaders, of course, as they do everywhere, leading to his arrest and execution. Although the specifics of his death are not detailed in canonical texts, there are some texts that do depict his death. There's a Coptic text known as the Martyrdom of Matthew. What is that about? That is a cooking. That is a cooking book. No, it's obviously about Matthew's death. It's an apocryphal text. Again, when I say apocryphal, I don't mean that it's necessarily wrong or historically inaccurate. I just mean that it's not included in the original canon as it was sort of set up at the Council of Nature. Nica in the main books that we sort of acknowledge are, you know, true and divinely inspired. They are just other historical books which again can be looked at to give us an idea of what the early church believed and maybe even draw some type of, you know, try to be able to draw some type of connection between the gospel text or the canonical text to draw some type of inference as to what is actually true. So according to the Martyrdom of Matthew, Matthew is martyred in Ethiopia after confronting a king who had taken a wife unlawfully. The king orders Matthew's death after he refuses to renounce his faith. The text describes a dramatic sequence of events, including Matthew's prayer before his execution. The prayer goes as follows. And as the executioners approach, Matthew lifted his eyes to heaven and said, quote, lord Jesus Christ, do not forsake your servant in this hour, but strengthen me to bear witness to your truth, even unto death. I mean, just bars. These guys were just about that life. Like you gotta respect it at a certain point, right? Like you meet a guy, you hang with him for four or five years and Then you go, I'm going to go around the world and preach the message of this man. And if people tell me to renounce it, I would rather die. You kind of got to respect it, dude. I mean, this guy, shout out to him again. There's also mentions of Matthew in other non canonical works, such as the Acts of Matthew. According to this text, Matthew is martyred by being staked to the ground and beheaded. I feel like similar to being stabbed. But again, this aligns with later traditions of Matthew being killed for refusing to worship idols or condone immoral acts. Ethiopia in particular, holds a special place in honoring Matthew's memory. Churches and communities in the region revere him as a founding figure of their Christian heritage. One of the most popular places associated with Matthew's ministry is the Ethiopian Orthodox Taedo Church, which attracts pilgrims from all over the world, underscoring his influence in the region. All right, next we got Thomas, also known as Didymus, which isn't really technically a name. His name just means twin. But the Bible never even really says who his twin was or whether or not he was even a twin. Some people actually suspect that he was the twin of Jesus Christ. Yeah, that's a whole different thing. I did an episode about the apocryphal books of the Bible, the Gospel of Thomas, which sort of discusses this in greater detail. But again, Thomas Didymus, who was this guy? He's famously remembered as being Doubting Thomas. Not a great. I mean, you'd rather be Simon the Zealot, right, Than Doubting Thomas. He's basically the dude that doubted Jesus resurrection. And Jesus showed up and was like, yo, I came back from the dead. And Thomas was like, I don't believe it. However, because of this moment, you know, his later faith and dedication to spreading the Gospel cemented his place as a significant figure in Christian history. Thomas's initial skepticism is documented in John, where he declares that he will not believe in Jesus resurrection unless he can see and touch the wounds from his crucifixion. He does touch the wounds, and he's like, all right, my bad. So then Jesus ascends into heaven after his resurrection. And Thomas is believed to have traveled extensively to fulfill his missionary calling, much like the rest of the apostles. Early Christian traditions say that he went to India. That's right. He made it all the way to India, making him one of the first apostles to take the gospel beyond Rome in the Acts of Thomas, which is, again, another apocryphal text not included in the Bible, provides a detailed, although not completely historically verified account of his journey to India. According to the text, Thomas arrives at the Malabar coast, which is in Kerala today, and began his ministry by converting local communities and including some, you know, people even in like upper ranking castes, which pissed off the king. This guy, Ms. Deus. This king sees Thomas influence as a threat to establish a religious tradition outside of the power of the government at the time and orders his execution. The text says, quote, mastaeus, filled with rage, commanded his soldiers to seize Thomas and lead him to the mountain outside the city where they were to execute him. The story continues with the death of Thomas in which he is depicted as being killed by having spears thrust into him. That sucks. It says, quote, they led him out to the city, took him to a hill and they thrust him with spears. I feel like I didn't need to read that twice. You get what I'm saying? So he basically gets stabbed and he lays there and his last words are such a prayer to God. Much like many of the other apostles we've looked at. Lord, I commit my spirit to your hands. Do not let your word fail, but make it bear fruit in those who have not heard it. Receive me now into your light where I may see you forever. It's beautiful. Again, another one of these apostles after Thomas's death. The text recounts miraculous events that followed, such as conversion amongst those who witnessed his martyrdom and his tomb becoming a site of veneration. But there are other accounts of the story in which Thomas is depicted as praying in a cave when soldiers come to him and then spear him while he's inside the cave. And it's sort of strange that there's two different settings, but that the change, you know, some people think the change in setting is just perhaps the oral tradition kind of deviating slightly and depending on where you lived, some people blamed the king and other people did not. Now Thomas's legacy lives on in India to this day. The Syrian Christian community in Kerala, known as the St. Thomas Christians trace its origin all the way to his ministry. There are even ancient churches in the region such as St. Thomas Syrio Malabar Church, which are dedicated to his memory to this day. All right, now it's time for James the Lesser. That's right, we talked about James the Greater. And now it's time for James son of Alphaeus. He's recognized as one of the original 12 apostles of Jesus. His description of the lesser isn't necessarily who he is or anything about his size, not that size, but his physical like height. And just mainly to distinguish him from James the Greater, another one of Jesus's disciples that we have already mentioned. Throughout the New Testament, there are, you know, a lot of descriptions and information about James the Lesser's background. Early Christian tradition identifies him as a prominent leader in the church of Jerusalem. James plays a pivotal role in the formative years of the Christian faith. And he's also thought to be potentially related to Jesus. Again, look, as a Catholic, I don't really believe this, but some people believe that it was. He was his brother. It says here in Mark 15, some women were watching from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the Younger, and of Joseph and Salome. Again, some people believe that just means brother. But let pylons be pylons. Right? Is that the quote? After Jesus, resurrection and ascension, James assumed a leadership position in the church that served as an epicenter of early Christianity. He got to stay home court. Known for his respect and adherence to Jewish customs, James sought to, I guess you could say, bridge the gap between the Jewish and gentile believers. In the Book of Acts, it records his significant involvement in the Council of Jerusalem, in which he advocates for, you know, gentile inclusion in the church without the requirement of circumcision. Yeah, shout out to old James the Lesser, James the Greater. If you ask me, he's like, yo, they can be in. They don't gotta chop their dicks off. Shout out to him. James's leadership in Jerusalem placed him at a position of prominence, but it also exposed him to opposition from various factions. His unwavering commitment to the teachings of Jesus and his role in the early church made him a target from religious authorities at the time. Early church historian Hegesippus is quoted in Esibus Ecclesiastical History. James's martyrdom occurred during a period of heightened tension between Christians and the Jewish leadership at the time. It begins by saying the scribes and Pharisees placed James upon the pinnacle of the temple and began to cry out to him and said, o you just one to whom all were ought to listen. For as much as the people were led astray after Jesus the crucified one, declare to us, what is the door of Jesus? Then James responds, why do you ask me concerning Jesus the Son of Man? He himself sits in heaven at the right hand of the great power and is about to come upon the clouds of heaven. At this point, the scribes and Pharisees began to cry out, hosanna. To the Son of David, Hosanna means save us or worship. But the leaders responded, oh, just one is also in error. And they fulfilled the scripture written in Isaiah, Let us take away the just man, because he is troublesome to us. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings. So they went up and threw down the Just man. Let us stone James the Just. And they began to stone him, for he was not killed by the fall. But he turned and knelt down and said, I beseech you, Lord God our Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. So while they're stoning him to death, one of the priests of the Son of the Rechabites, known as the Jehonadav, began to cry aloud, saying, cease what you're doing. The Just One prays for you. But then it states, one of them, who was a fuller, took a club with which he beat out clothes and struck the Just One in the head. And thus he suffered martyrdom. So, as you can see in the historical record, it describes James's death in pretty vivid detail, even recounting how he's thrown from the pinnacle of the temple and he's not killed by the fall. And then his attackers stone him and he's not really killed by the stoning. And then they take a club for a rug and then just like crack him in the head one time. And that series of events leads to his execution. And again, goes to show the early persecution that the church leaders were having at the time. James's martyrdom is believed to have occurred around, like, 62 A.D. during the high priesthood of Anunnis. Yes, can we pull that name up, by the way? Can we get a. Just a visual of what that looks like? Anunas, also pronounced an anus. That is actually how it's spelled. A N, A, N, U, S. What a good name for the guy that killed James. One of Jesus's main homies, Ananus James's legacy as a leader and a martyr is still commemorated in Christian tradition. He's venerated as a saint, celebrated to, you know, be one of the early church homies and remembered for the lasting impact and matter of fact, the Epistle of James reflects his deep concern for the practical faith and moral integrity of the people.

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Now let's move on to Bartholomew, AKA Nathaniel. Now, this guy, we mentioned him earlier in Peter's story. He's one of the 12 apostles mentioned in the New Testament. And his introduction to Jesus is recorded in the Gospel of John where we saw Philip say, yo, Nathaniel, come meet Jesus. And this is the guy that's like, yo, what's good in Hoboken? And he's like, just come and check out the vibe. After meeting Jesus and hearing him reveal intimate knowledge about his character, Nathaniel declares, rabbi, you are the Son of God. You are the King of Israel. This encounter reflects Bartholomew's honesty and openness to the truth, traits that would ultimately define his ministry. So then, when Jesus ascends into heaven, Bartholomew embarked on missionary journeys to spread the Gospel. It is believed that he traveled extensively to Armenia, Mesopotamia and India as well. However, his work in Armenia is particularly well documented as he is credited with helping to establish Christianity in the region. Armenian tradition regards Bartholomew as one of the founding figures of their Christian heritage. Now, Bartholomew's ministry in Armenia is both successful and staunchly opposed, as you can imagine, by many of the people there. Again, his life and sort of teaching to the pagan authorities of the region is denoted in the Acts of Bartholomew, another apocryphal text. It's said that he confronts a demon inhabiting an idol, and the demon confesses the power of Christ and pleads for mercy. Quote, I am one of the angels of Satan who fell from the height, and I enticed the first man to eat the forbidden tree. Yes, we're talking about that one. The guy that tricked Adam and Eve. Mostly tricked Eve. Eve tricked Adam. Anyway, I made idols for men so that I might be glorified through them. But now I am tormented by the angels of God, bound with fiery chains and tortured. You chose wrong, stupid demon. Right? You could have been kicking it with all the angels in heaven, having a great time, but instead, now you're in an idol getting tortured by angels. Bartholomew then rebukes the demon and orders it to leave, leading to the destruction of the idol and the conversion of many. Now, you would think this is great. Then the text describes Bartholomew's suffering and martyrdom, which was Ordered by King Astyages after Bartholomew had made his brother Palmus change his faith. That's right. Before his execution, Bartholomew prays for the people who believe in Christ and for his executioners. O Lord Jesus Christ, who has shown me the way of life, receive my spirit and grant those who take up this testimony of your name may find eternal life. The text then says that the king, pissed off and angry, commanded that Bartholomew be beaten with rods. And after being flayed alive, he was beheaded and his body was buried by the faithful. Yeah, that's tough. The brutal martyrdom underscores the intense persecution faced by early Christian missionaries. And if you know we're going to do an episode on some of the Aztec sacrifices, you'll understand. Being flayed alive is insane. It's like the most brutal way to die, maybe ever. They tear your skin from your body while you're alive, causing you to slowly. And, you know, you basically bleed out. I don't even know. You die of shock. I don't even know how you die if you lose all your skin. Maybe the most painful way to die. And despite the gruesome nature of his death, Bartholomew, his commitment to spreading the gospel left an undeniable mark on the region that he evangelized. The acts of Bartholomew described his miraculous healing and exorcisms and many other miracles that make him integral to the early church. Matter of fact, if you actually look up a lot of different sculptures and statues of Bartholomew to this day, you'll actually see images of him holding his own skin. Whoa. It's pretty badass, actually.

Miles McCreary (59:20)

In Game of Thrones, the Boltons are one of the major houses, and they're The. Their sigil is a man being flayed because they were, like, known to flay all of their enemies on the battlefield.

Host (59:34)

Whoa. Yeah, that's pretty badass. I mean, look at this sculpture.

Miles McCreary (59:38)

Oh, that's wild.

Host (59:39)

That's a badass sculpture, right? Yeah. I mean, that's like. Just show, like, one. The technicality of, like, sculpting that is insane. But then also being like, we're gonna put this in a church.

Miles McCreary (59:50)

Yeah.

Host (59:51)

A guy that's been skinned alive, and you see his internal organs, basically, and then he's wearing his skin as a robe. I mean, badass. And then along the way, just, like, praying for the people murdering you. Bartholomew is a real one. I'm going to say he. Of all the. All the apostles. So far, that's number one for me in terms of just taking it on the chin, like a G. Right. Let's talk about John, the beloved disciple. He's one of Jesus closest homies and a central figure among the 12. Guess where he's born. Bethsaida, son of Zebedee and the brother of James the Greater. John is a fisherman working alongside his brother and their dad when Jesus calls upon him. And this comes right after Jesus calls upon Peter and Andrew in the Book of Mark. The verse right after this event states, when he'd gone a little farther, he saw James, son of Zebedee, and his brother John preparing their nets. Without delay, he calls them. And they left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hired men and followed Christ. Which, if you're the dad, you'd have to be like, guys, we have, we have a business. And they're like, no, we gotta go follow Jesus. And if I'm him, I think he should be allowed to be like, a little pissed off, like, for a little, until he understands what's going on, you know. As a member of Jesus inner circle, he sees many of Jesus's, you know, sickest things that he does. The transfiguration, Jesus, agony in the Garden of Gethsemane. He's one of Jesus's closest homies. As a matter of fact, he's referred to as, quote, the disciple whom Jesus loved. That's right. That title underscores his unique role amongst the apostles. The disciple who Jesus loves, loved. That's like. I feel like that's what parents say, right? Like, you are the child I loved. It's like you love him the most. Like, no, I don't. I don't love him the most. I just. That's the one I love. It's like, I feel like we know what you're actually saying. John was even present at the crucifixion, some people believe, standing at the foot of the cross alongside Mary, the mother of Jesus. In a poignant moment, Jesus entrusted Mary to John's care, saying, woman, here is your son, and to John, here is your mother. This act signifies the deep trust that Jesus placed in John and highlights his compassionate character. John is said to have gone all around the world, but mostly settled in Ephesus, a major city in Asia Minor, AKA Turkey, where he preached and established a Christian community. And John is typically credited with authoring the Gospel of John, you know, three epistles, John 1, John 2, John 3, and the book of Revelation. These writings reflect his theological depth and his focus on themes such as, you know, love, truth, eternal life. The Gospel of John in particular provides a unique perspective on Jesus Life and ministry, emphasizing his divinity and the importance of the belief in him. According to early church tradition, John was exiled to Patmos. That's right, little Greek island during the reign of Emperor Domitian around like 81 AD where he received the visions recorded in the book of Revelation. That's right. If you've ever read Revelation or maybe you listened to my episode. I did my buddy Joey about the book of Revelation. John writes this wild tale, this like divine revelation from God about end times that he received while in exile in Patmos. Following the death of Domitian, John was released and returned to Ephesus where he continued his ministry until his death. That's pretty good. We got one that made it all the way. The circumstances of John's death set him apart. While most of the disciples were martyred for their faith, John's died of natural causes. At a certain point you gotta be like, what did I do wrong if everyone else got murdered? Am I just soft? Like, why didn't they come for me? Some of the early church fathers, such as Polycarp. Yeah, that's a real church father. Polycarp, yeah, that's not a Pokemon. He's the disciple of John. And Irenaeus attested to John's long life and his role as a teacher and a leader in the early church. Polycarp wrote and provided insights into John's character and teachings. Emphasizes, you know, his love and faithfulness to Jesus message and. Okay, while we don't have Poly Carp's specific writing about John, we do have Irenaeus writings which mention how Polycarp followed the teachings of the apostles. John's longevity allowed him to mentor the next generation of Christian leaders, ensuring the continue continuity of the church's mission. And yeah, John was just the homie. And God just seemed like he lived a pretty chill life. Yeah. And John's got a church and Ephesus to this day. And one legend suggests that John actually didn't die, but was taken by God after entering into a cave. According to legend, before he died, Christ along with the other apostles visited St. John and said to him, come my beloved one, and join me and all other brethren of thine at my table. The time has finally come to do so. The Sunday next thou wilt come to stay henceforth with me. As the story unfolds the following Sunday, St. John continued with his preaching of Christianity before finally informing his disciples of his time. Then he entered the cave of his church, whereupon an intense light shone, preventing his disciples from entering any farther. When the light dissipated so Did John. His legend was extended when the opening of his tomb during Constantine's reign yielded no body and no relics. It was also said that St. John was not dead, but sleeping beneath his tomb. And each time he breathed, there'd be dust around the altar to stir, which in turn made them holy. Because of this, the dust called manna was said to be able to cure the sick. That's right. You've heard of manna before. Talked about in ancient times, Right. This is in the Bible. It's also in a bunch of Egyptian texts. The Templars believed manna is the result of alchemy and some sort of conductive material. John's writing continues to inspire believers. And, yeah, he offers insight and seems to have, like, the best time of all the disciples, it seems like. Shout out to John. Figured it out. All right, couple more. Let's check out Thaddeus, AKA Jude.

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You know that's short for Thaddeus. Oh, your name's Jude. What's that short for? Thaddeus. Oh, okay, that makes complete sense. He's also known as Judas, the son of James, one of the 12 apostles. A lot of times he gets confused with Judas Iscariot. That's the guy who betrayed Jesus Iscariot literally meeting traitor. He's not that one. He's a different. He's a different Jude. Tough name to have at the time of Jesus, but he wore it well. And that's why he was Jude, not Judas. Anyway, Thad, he's a distinct figure. He plays a crucial role in the early Christian days. Known for his humility and dedication. He's mentioned the Gospel of Luke as being a part of the apostolic group, but it's not specifically mentioned how he met J man. So Jesus dies and goes to hell for a couple days. Resurrects Shout out. Easter goes to heaven, and Thad goes to Mesopotamia, AKA Iraq. Yes, he's the first Christian to go into Iraq. Won't be the last. Spoiler alert. Shout out. George W. Come on now. He also goes to Armenia, regions that were critical for the expansion of Christianity beyond Judea. Thad's missionary work was great. He was just doing his thing on tour, just telling people about the good word. Now, the Bible doesn't really say how he died, but we got some historical accounts in Armenian traditions. And great news. He lived to be an old age. Psych. He was beaten to death with a club. That sucks. Damn it, dude. You just like, how did 1 in 12 go the distance? That's wild. Also, there's a theory that he was beheaded in Armenia, but this idea doesn't have as much credence, and it's not really seen as an accurate depiction. There's no writings really left behind to tell us about Thaddeus's death. So these kind of just come from oral traditions. Armenian traditions hold a special place for Thad. The Armenians, they love that guy. They got the church over there in Armenia that celebrates the feast of saints of Saint Thaddeus and Bartholomew, which includes special liturgical services and hymns to their memory. There's actually a pilgrimage held at the monastery of Saint Thaddeus in Kara Kilissia in modern day Iran, and the church is said to be one of the oldest in the world. This event attracts thousands of Armenians, so Thad doesn't have the most exciting story, mostly because it wasn't really written down. However, his impact is clearly seen. I mean, just ask your Armenian friends. All right now, Miles, great news. Simon the Zealot, you're kind of jumping. You were jumping the gun a little bit, but we got to him. As always one of the 12, he's often remembered for his intense devotion and unwavering commitment, earning him the name Zealot. The epithet Zealot likely indicates his affiliation with the group the Zealots, which was a Jewish political movement opposed to the Roman rule, Or it might just refer to as fervent faith. It's sort of disputed among scholars and historians, but they do believe that there is a group known as the Zealots, which was a political movement against the Roman imperial government. Now, the New Testament doesn't really give a ton of information about Simon's life and ministry. He's sort of a, like a C storyline, maybe a D storyline. And after Jesus, resurrection, ascension, he again joins the apostles, goes around the world, and he ends up in Persia and parts of Africa. That's right. He checks out. Persia goes and, you know, it's well documented in the Eastern Christian traditions, which many of them attribute Simon as being the first Christian to make it there and establishing churches in the region. He's Often associated with Thad, AKA Jude, the guy we just talked about. And yeah, the two apostles worked together to spread the gospel. So the most widespread tradition that after evangelizing in Egypt for a little bit, Simon joined Thad in Persia and Armenia, where both were martyred in 65 AD. Another tradition states that he was crucified in Samaria, while Justice Lipsius writes that he was sawn in half in Persia. So take your pick. How is he killed? Crucifixion, club to death, or a magic trick. That's right, sawn in half. That's been an enduring image of Simon's death and the reason he's usually depicted as having a saw in his hand. It's kind of nice, right? Like, just think about that. Let's get a picture of Simon here. I mean, look at that picture right there. Simon, beautiful hair, a nice beard, holding the tool that killed him.

Miles McCreary (71:17)

Yeah, they always make him balding.

Host (71:19)

Yeah, that's not right. You would think, oh, if we're gonna remember this guy forever, we don't need to necessarily show his hairline.

Miles McCreary (71:25)

He's depicted not only black and white.

Host (71:27)

But always balding as a black guy, a white guy and bald.

Miles McCreary (71:32)

It's both in both bofa.

Host (71:34)

Whoa. I'll be honest, I feel like a black guy bald. They wear it better. Am I crazy for that?

Miles McCreary (71:40)

Look at the little. Look at like the little one wisp and everything. They give him one little wisp.

Host (71:47)

You gotta shave it, dude. You gotta shave it at a certain point. Simon, I don't know how to tell you this or get on keeps or something.

Miles McCreary (71:54)

Yeah, drop the drop.

Host (71:55)

Yeah. If we had a sponsor for this episode, it would be like hims or something like that. Simon, you got to be a little zealous about your hair and just know when to know when to go bald, my friend. So like I had mentioned before, in the art, Simon is, you know, either shown being hung upside down or sawn apart vertically down the middle, starting at the groin, probably. If you're going to get cut in half. The worst half to get cut in half of. Right. Am I crazy?

Miles McCreary (72:20)

No, you're.

Host (72:21)

He's getting to Leah Thomas in the middle of like the. Like, he's getting sawn right from the bottom.

Miles McCreary (72:26)

Well, you could go half in the middle.

Host (72:27)

If you were to go saw in half, you go in the. You'd go. Yeah, right through the belly. But that would. I don't. I mean, I don't know. Getting sawed in half in general would just be the worst. But he's depicted in many different ways. The torturers would start by sawing the crotch while all of the blood in the head would oxygenate so that in the brain, so the victim would not pass out as one normally would under such excruciating pain. Yuck. If anyone was interested in the details of maybe the worst way to die ever. And again, apparently this was done on purpose because they wasn't on accident. Well, they were intentionally cruel. Like, sometimes you see some of the stuff, you're like, wow, this is so messed up. There must be a better way to kill him. And like, no, no, the point is the pain. So that's Simon, a true father of the early church and a speaker of the truth of Christianity. That unfortunately had another dismal end when it was all said and done. There is a popular spot that people go to, you know, revere Simon the Zealot. It's a cave located in Georgia. That's right. Not the state, but the country. And when visiting the site, it's recommended to bring scarves and skirts. This is because the site enforces a dress code requiring modest attire, especially for women. And if you do visit and forget your attire, they have a change of clothes at the entrance, but it might be worn by other people. I do that. One time I went to a. Where was it? I went to a synagogue in Tunisia, and they forced us to wear kipas or yarmulkes, and they forced all my sisters to get stoned. They stoned them?

Miles McCreary (74:04)

That's awesome.

Host (74:04)

No, they put them in, like, headscarves and stuff.

Miles McCreary (74:06)

I went to a synagogue in middle America and a friend was wearing a sundress and had to take my jacket to cover her shoulders.

Host (74:15)

Ah, yeah. That's tricky. Yeah. I always wonder sometimes in these places. Not that this place in Georgia is particularly. I don't know, not particularly repressed, you know, but, you know, modest, perhaps. I always wonder if there's any places where it's like, strict Sharia law. But there's one guy that's just like, a moderate. Like, he's like, honey, just cover up. Like, it's dumb. I know.

Miles McCreary (74:38)

Yeah. He's aware, but has to play.

Host (74:41)

You got to do it. Like, we live in Sharia law, so you have to cover and that. Like, he hears at work that his wife or his daughter was trying to, like, read, and he's like, oh, my. I have to punish them.

Miles McCreary (74:52)

Yeah.

Host (74:53)

And I have to go stone my God daughters. Like, oh, my goodness. Like, on my day off, I've been working all day. I'm so tired. And Now I have to go stone my daughter.

Miles McCreary (75:05)

Honey, I'm not mad. I'm disappointed.

Host (75:06)

It's just like. It's like another thing I have to deal with. And all because you want to drive a car.

Miles McCreary (75:11)

Yeah, it's funny.

Host (75:13)

All right, last one. Best for last. And by best, I mean the worst. Judas Iscariot. That's right. Remember when I said that there were two people acknowledged in the Bible for how they died? Two of the disciples. Well, Judas Iscariot, the other one. That's right. What he did to my man JC was just. It was up, and I don't forgive him for it. And neither did the people at the time, and neither did himself. It was also. I don't know, he also got us saved in a way, so maybe we'd be grateful. Is that blasphemous? It seems like it would be blasphemous. There's. This must be a heresy somewhere. If it is, please point it out. But, like, being happy that this guy sold out Jesus so that we could all be forgiven of our sins.

Miles McCreary (75:55)

Yeah. Someone had to do it, or he.

Host (75:58)

Could have died of old age. And then if he had died of old age, would we still have been forgiven? I guess it would have taken longer. I don't know. That's interesting. Someone Google that or something later. Anyway, Jude is one of the most infamous figures in all of Christianity. That's right. You got Satan, the serpent, Lucifer, all kind of the same vibe. But then Judas becomes its own separate thing. And literally is the name becomes, you know, a term, a Judas.

Miles McCreary (76:25)

Yeah.

Host (76:26)

Judas Iscariot, meaning traitor. Traitor Judas. I mean, that's a. That's a tough. It's a tough reputation to live down. Again, he's One of the 12 apostles, one of Jesus closest homies, and he plays a significant role in the ministry of Jesus. But yet his actions led to one of the most pivotal and disastrous moments in all of the New Testament. Judas was chosen by Jesus to be amongst his closest followers, participating in the teachings, miracles, and even the last Supper. We can see Judas gripping a bag of what is most likely silver, resembling his act of selling Jesus out for payment. Despite his proximity to Jesus, Judas ultimately became the catalyst for Jesus's Jesus death and crucifixion. Yeah, it's interesting if you look at the. The image, you can see him gripping the bag of money and kind of like holding his hand, like, whoa. Some people think this is when Jesus said, one of you will betray me. And Judas is like, I don't know what you're Talking about he's holding the bag of money in his hand. Do you know that's how the whole thing went down?

Miles McCreary (77:21)

No.

Host (77:22)

The betrayal of Jesus is actually fascinating. That literally, according to Matthew, Judas agreed to betray Jesus to the chief priests in exchange for 30 pieces of silver. They didn't know exactly where Jesus was. He was preaching at the temple. He's kind of riling people up specifically around the holidays and they're like, we need to find this guy. How do we find him? Let's go to one of his boys, let's see if they can. They'll sell him out. So it was a setup. A real kind of almost like a rat beef in a way. Like to get to the guy, you got to find one of his homies and see if we'll just rat on him. And yeah, the sum fulfilled the prophecy in Zechariah where it says, I told them, if you think it best, give me pay, if not, keep it. So they paid me 30 pieces of silver. That was in the Old Testament.

Miles McCreary (78:06)

How much was that for nowadays?

Host (78:08)

Yeah, I don't know what the exchange rate on 30 pieces of silver.

Miles McCreary (78:11)

You sold it your homie. I want to know how much for.

Host (78:13)

That's an interesting question. Let's see, what is 30 pieces of silver worth today?

Miles McCreary (78:20)

Also, I would love to do just a three hour podcast where I just ask, who's this? Or what did they do? Because I don't know anything, dude. I truly know nothing. I like to understand that Judas is like a traitor, but I didn't know. I didn't know any of this.

Host (78:36)

Damn. Oh, this is fascinating. This goes very deep. Apparently people have done a lot of research to try to figure this out, but here's basically what it is. So today there's this whole thing of like, what kind of coin was it? It's disputed. So depending on the coin, the value of the silver in today's dollars. Now just for the record, this is like coins today would be like 400, $500, but they are in question. 30 Tetra Dakkms would have been equivalent to about four months wages for a skilled laborer in a major city. In the US it's not uncommon for a builder or a union Carpenter to make $75,000 a year.

Miles McCreary (79:18)

Yeah, I was gonna say, let's say make 100,000.

Host (79:20)

So it's about four months a quarter. Okay, so you could imagine that 30 pieces of silver might cost, I don't.

Miles McCreary (79:28)

Know, 15, 25 grand.

Host (79:30)

25K. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he sold out Jesus for 25,000.

Miles McCreary (79:35)

All right.

Host (79:35)

I wouldn't do it. Hundred? No, I wouldn't do it. I don't think I would do.

Miles McCreary (79:40)

There's a number.

Host (79:40)

It. There is. And that's the most fucked up part.

Miles McCreary (79:43)

It's a number.

Host (79:44)

And everyone would think I wouldn't do it.

Miles McCreary (79:46)

The cash.

Host (79:47)

A bill?

Miles McCreary (79:48)

Yeah, a bill like this. Yeah, of course.

Host (79:50)

And then I'm sure Satan's in your ear, like, no, no, it's gonna be good. Like, he'll resurrect. He's not actually gonna die. And he'll come back to life and he'll save humanity. I wouldn't do it for the rest.

Miles McCreary (80:00)

What was his life like after?

Host (80:03)

I'm glad you brought that up. So this again, this is the whole thing. On the night of the betrayal, the soldiers arrive at the Garden of Gethsemane, which is like an olive pressing like field. And Judas identifies Jesus with the kiss of death. Again, the mob uses this to this day, a gesture that has become synonymous with betrayal. That Judas, they were like, which one's Jesus? And he went up and like Jesus, how are you? Kissed him and alerted to the people. Following the arrest and the subsequent condemnation of Jesus in court under Pontius Pilate, Judas experienced profound remorse, saying, quote in Matthew, I should have asked for more money. No. He recounts how Judas attempted to return the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priest, declaring, I have sinned, for I have betrayed innocent blood. But his pleas were dismissed. What is that to us? That's your responsibility, the people said. And in despair, Judas threw the money into the temple and hung himself, as it says in the Bible. In despair, Judas threw the money and hung himself. And that was it. His tragic end is one of the few instances where the New Testament offers a glimpse into Judas internal conflicts, and also one of the few times that we actually see how a disciple died. Yeah, it's very strange, but the details surrounding his death do vary slightly. I think that's probably worth pointing out. Some of the Gospels don't always line up perfectly. You have the Synoptic Gospels, and those kind of differ from the Gospel of John, for example. So Matthew's Gospel describes the hanging. Acts, chapter one, provide an additional perspective, stating that Judas fell headfirst into a field he purchased with the betrayal money, resulting in his body bursting open. Pretty hardcore. He fell headlong, it says in the Bible. His body burst open and all of his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called the field in their language, Akeldama. That is the field of blood. It's kind of a cartoonish way to go.

Miles McCreary (82:04)

Yeah, it's a weird one. He should have just hung himself. It's way, way more like symbolic.

Host (82:11)

It's like, you know. Yeah, I feel like it captures something. Historically, Judas actions have been the subject of a lot of theological debate. Early Christian writers such as Origen and Augustine grappled with the duality of Judas both as a predestined agent of God's plan and a morally culpable individual. His betrayal also led to centuries of cultural and artistic representations portraying Judas as the embodiment of human weakness and greed. So, yeah, despite his terrible reputation, Judas, I guess you could say, serves as a cautionary tale. Perhaps the dangers of succumbing to temptation, greed, and the devastating consequences of betrayal. His actions did put into motion for Jesus crucifixion, but also his resurrection withstand as foundational moments in the theology of the Christian. So, yeah, the legacy of Judas is a complicated one. I don't know if I would name my kid Judas. Would you rather be named Judas or Adolph?

Miles McCreary (83:07)

Judas.

Host (83:09)

Yeah. I mean, modern day. Yeah. It's a dumb question. Yeah.

Miles McCreary (83:12)

And modern back in the day, which.

Host (83:14)

Is still crazy to me. That young Dolph RIP the rapper, his name is Adolf.

Miles McCreary (83:19)

Yeah.

Host (83:20)

That's wild. Yeah, that is not even Adolfo. Not like the Spanish version. Adolf.

Miles McCreary (83:24)

Yeah, that's crazy.

Host (83:25)

He was born in like the 80s.

Miles McCreary (83:26)

That's crazy.

Host (83:28)

So not a great look. And Judas would have been a cool name. So whether Judas was a part of God's plan or just a human acting upon human weakness, his name stands as a lasting icon in the realm of the Christian tradition. So there you have it, folks. All 12. Two of them in the Bible, 10 of them elsewhere, and one of them made it to the end. That is the winner of the tribal council, John. He is the survivor.

Miles McCreary (84:00)

Bring your torch.

Host (84:01)

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of just wild. I don't know. It's a. It is a good testament. If you're a Christian and you listen to this, really any religious person, I guess this road is. It's not an easy one. You know, like if you're not getting clubbed to death or getting sawed in half or, I don't know, getting flayed alive, crucified, getting crucified upside down, sideways, every other which way on an X, then maybe you're having a pretty good time. Maybe. Whatever your plight is as a Christian, despite it probably being difficult and hard on a personal, subjective level, certainly it's better than being. I don't know any one of these guys. Like I would take my my struggles over any of these guys by a mile in terms of most badass ways to go. Getting sawed in half, I would put it like 3. Getting crucified upside down or on a cross, I'd put that at 2. I think getting flayed alive, then your image is immortalized forever is just having your skin draped around you like a Balenciaga drop. I'm gonna put that as number one, one of the sickest, like most badass ways to go. So shout out to all these dudes for just keeping the faith, creating the church and yeah, just keeping it real. As always, dude. Some of the chillest guys I ever read about. Anyway, that's another episode of Religion Camp. That's right. Happens every Sunday right here in this tent. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. I appreciate you dearly and I'll see you next time. Peace be with you. If you've made it to the end of this episode, you are clearly someone who understands that beneath every historical event lies a deeper truth waiting to be uncovered. You're the type of person who knows that real history is more fascinating than any figure, and we deeply appreciate that about you. I'll be honest, that's exactly why I personally invite you to sign up for Today in History, our free newsletter that goes beyond the surface of historical events. We dive into the stories that textbooks never told you, the secrets that challenge the course of nations, and the forgotten tales that deserve to be remembered. Let's continue this journey of discovery together. Take the conversation from your headphones into your your inbox. Sign up now through the QR code or link in the Description Today in History because every day holds a secret waiting to be revealed. Thank you for being part of our historical journey, and we'll see you next time.