He Killed 600 People LEGALLY | The Macabre Albert Pierrepoint - Camp Gagnon

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This man executed Nazi war criminals, serial killers, and even an innocent father. And then he said that the death penalty doesn't work. He executed over 400 people, possibly as many as 600. And at the end of his life,

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he wrote that capital punishment had achieved nothing.

Mark Gagnon (0:46)

His name was Albert Pierrepont. He was Britain's most prolific executioner of the 20th century. Death wasn't just his job. It was a family business. His father was a hangman, his uncle was a hangman. And as a schoolboy, when they asked him what he wanted to be when he grew up, he said, I want to be an executioner like my daddy. Albert got his wish. Then he spent the rest of his

Christos (1:06)

life wondering if the whole thing was pointless.

Mark Gagnon (1:10)

This is a fascinating episode and a really interesting deep dive onto a historical figure that you may have never heard

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of, but you will never forget.

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So sit back, relax, and welcome to History Camp. What's up, people? And welcome back to History Camp. My name is Mark Gagnon and thank you for joining me in my tent, where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from all time, from all history, forever. Yes, that's what I do in this tennis. I try to figure out everything that's

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ever happened and, oh, man, there's a

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whole bunch of stuff just been non stop stuff going on ever since I got here.

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So we got a lot of catching up to do.

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We have no time to waste.

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But before we begin, I just want to say thank you so much to

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Summary

Camp Gagnon – “He Killed 600 People LEGALLY | The Macabre Albert Pierrepoint”
April 29, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode of Camp Gagnon, Mark Gagnon and co-host Christos explore the life and legacy of Albert Pierrepoint, Britain’s most prolific executioner of the 20th century. Combining historical deep dive with philosophical reflection, the hosts dissect Pierrepont’s family origins, methodology, famous cases—including executions of both notorious criminals and the tragically innocent—and the broader implications for the morality and efficacy of capital punishment.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Albert Pierrepoint: The Reluctant Executioner

Family Business: Born into a lineage of hangmen, Pierrepont followed in his father’s and uncle’s footsteps, becoming obsessed with the craft after discovering his father’s execution diary at age 11.
[03:45] Mark Gagnon: “How do you even become an executioner? Well, for Albert Pierrepoint, he was born into it...”
Professional Rise: Despite an unremarkable working-class background, Albert trained and qualified for execution duty in the early 1930s, eventually becoming the lead executioner in 1941.
[06:22] Mark Gagnon: “Six months later, this invitation arrives and he trained for four days at Pentonville Prison in London, practicing on dummies.”
Craft and Method: Albert approached executions scientifically—adjusting lengths of drops to minimize suffering, personally inspecting prisoners, and aiming for precision and dignity with every hanging.
[09:07] Mark Gagnon: “Pierrepont basically tried to standardize this process and he refined it into what people have described as an art.”
[12:04] “From the moment Pierrepont entered the cell to the moment that he open the trap door, it was 12 seconds. That was his standard...”

2. Moral Complexity and Psychological Strain

Efficiency vs. Ethics: Pierrepont’s relentless quest for humane executions masked the deep psychological toll and existential questions about state-sanctioned killing.
[12:36] Christos: “He wanted it to be quick. By his own account, he called the execution sacred.”
The Paradox: Can killing be “good” if it’s done with care and by government mandate?
[13:11] Mark Gagnon: “Is that something you could deal with as a human being? Like, Yeah, I killed 600 people... But I was the one that did it.”

3. Historical Context: Executing War Criminals and Regular Felons

Post-WWII Hangings: Pierrepont oversaw the executions of Nazi war criminals convicted at the Bergen-Belsen trials, including Josef Kramer and Irma Grese.
[15:00] Mark Gagnon: “On some mornings, more people would be hung in a single session than Pierpont would normally execute in an entire year.”
[15:18] Christos: “Irma Graze, the 22 year old SS guard who had been convicted of selecting prisoners for the gas chambers...”
Home in England: Pierrepont’s notoriety also stemmed from controversial domestic cases, especially the wrongful execution of innocent men and emotionally charged public trials.

4. Three Landmark Miscarriages of Justice

Timothy Evans (1950)

Executed for a crime later found to be committed by his neighbor, who was also executed by Pierrepont.
[19:42] Mark Gagnon: “Timothy Evans had almost certainly been innocent, and the state killed a dude for a crime committed by his neighbor... And then Albert Pierpont killed both of them.”

Derek Bentley (1953)

A mentally challenged 19-year-old hanged for a murder committed during a burglary by his underage accomplice.
[25:32] Mark Gagnon: “The full weight of the law fell on Bentley and the case provoked enormous public outcry... Yet Pierpont carried out the execution.”

Ruth Ellis (1955)

Last woman executed in the UK; her trial and plea for mercy due to domestic abuse ignited public debate.
[27:05] Mark Gagnon: “Ellis became the last woman to be executed in Britain, and she was hanged by Pierpont...”

5. The Executioner at Home: Compartmentalization and Double Life

Ordinary Publican: Despite his work, Pierrepont ran a pub called “Help the Poor Struggler,” maintaining a warm, sociable persona unbeknownst to most of his patrons.
[29:44] Christos: “And this double life that he led... kind of as like a friendly... pub owner by night to then waking up that morning and becoming like the most notorious executioner...”
Compartmentalization: Showcases remarkable ability to separate professional duties from personal life, raising questions about the nature of moral and emotional detachment.

6. Shattering the Shell: Executing a Friend

James Corbett: Pierrepont executed an old pub friend, bringing the human cost uncomfortably close. The emotional impact of this “Tish and Tosh” moment profoundly affected him.
[33:05] “Their eyes met. And in that moment, that wall between the executioner and the victim completely collapses...”

7. Philosophical Reckoning: Did It Matter?

Following a lifetime of service, Pierrepoint publicly questioned the efficacy and morality of the death penalty:

[34:00] Mark Gagnon quoting Pierrepont: “I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out was in any way, has in any way acted as a deterrent against future murder. Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge.”
Debate remains whether his memoir’s anti-capital punishment statements were shaped by post-career reflection or context (selling books in an abolitionist climate).

8. Legacy and Abolition

Pierrepont’s actions—especially the high-profile miscarriages of justice—became central pillars in the abolition movement in Britain.
The UK ultimately abolished capital punishment for murder in 1965, with full abolition only in 2003.
[38:08] Christos: “It wasn’t until 2003 that the United Kingdom ratified... Protocol 13... which completely abolishes the death penalty in all circumstances with no exceptions.”

9. Contemporary Resonance and Reflection

The hosts draw parallels with current death penalty practices in the US, China, and elsewhere, questioning the morality and necessity of state-sanctioned executions today.
[41:05] Mark Gagnon: “But it’s like a thing that we do. That’s pretty crazy.”
Pierrepont died in relative obscurity in 1992, his life continuing to inspire debate.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Art of Execution:

“Pierrepont basically tried to standardize this process and he refined it into what people have described as an art.” – Mark Gagnon [09:07]
On the Weight of Guilt:

“Like, it’s the most intimate thing, killing another human being. Like, looking at them, putting a bag on their head, sizing them up, and then doing it and then getting it wrong and being like, you know, bad day at the office. Like, that’s crazy.” – Mark Gagnon [20:36]
Pierrepont’s Famous Reflection:

“I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out... acted as a deterrent... Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge.” – Quoting Pierrepont [34:00]
On Double Lives:

“He completely lived a full on Hannah Montana-But-I’m-a-serial-killer life, like killing by day, you know, killing Guinnesses by night.” – Christos [30:58]
On Responsibility:

“He didn’t elect for those people to die. He’s not the judge or jury. He simply elected to carry it out, to trust the system...” – Mark Gagnon [31:11]
On Moral Complexity:

“Holding all these things in tension is extremely difficult. And trying to balance them all is maybe the most human experience ever.” – Mark Gagnon [35:44]

Important Timestamps

Background & Family: 03:45–07:49
Execution Methodology: 08:00–12:36
WWII War Criminal Executions: 14:22–17:09
Notorious UK Cases: 18:08–28:19
Pub Life & Compartmentalization: 28:39–31:34
Executing a Friend, Corbett: 31:36–33:30
Pierrepont’s Ultimate Reflection: 33:35–34:17
Abolition and Legacy: 36:47–40:10
Contemporary Context & Final Thoughts: 41:04–47:44

Conclusion

Mark and Christos weave together the facts and the philosophical dilemmas of Albert Pierrepont’s extraordinary life, forcing listeners to confront uncomfortable questions about justice, revenge, and the cost of doing a “necessary” job. The story of Britain’s chief hangman is not just about the past—its echoes are felt in every modern debate about punishment, guilt, and morality.

“The legacy of Albert Pierpont is still contested now... Is he a necessary function of state violence... or a conscientious professional caught up inside a flawed system?... It’s complicated.” – Mark Gagnon [39:34, 40:03]