Camp Gagnon Podcast Summary

Episode: Hollywood's DARKEST Occult Secrets Revealed
Host: Mark Gagnon
Guest: Kurt Metzger
Date: April 7, 2026

Episode Overview

This explosive episode dives into the darkest corners of Hollywood, elite power circles, and the shadowy intersection of occultism, ritual abuse, geopolitics, and conspiracies. Comedian and commentator Kurt Metzger joins Mark Gagnon for a freewheeling, brutally candid, and often darkly humorous conversation. Metzger, with decades in the comedy and entertainment circuit and a deep knowledge of alternative history and the occult, provides both personal anecdotes and sweeping theories about everything from child abuse among elites to the manipulation of society via media, numerology, and secret societies.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Hollywood & Elite Abuse, Rituals, and Mind Control

• Metzger asserts repeatedly that elite circles, including Hollywood, are rife with ritual abuse, mind control programming (referencing MK Ultra, Monarch, etc.), and multi-generational trauma.
• He connects programs like those Paris Hilton experienced in her youth (camp-style "treatment" facilities) to broader patterns of abuse and gaslighting among the wealthy and powerful (08:35).
• The prevalence of child sexual abuse and incest among Hollywood families, citing cases like Mackenzie Phillips, the Reiner family, and others:
  • "Ain't nobody going to rehab 18 times because their dad didn't diddle them. That's what I think." (27:57 - Metzger)
• Explicit allegations and dark references to how children of influential families are "broken" for exploitation or indoctrination into these circles—"gaslight your kids so they don't remember the shit you had done…" (09:46).

2. Jeffrey Epstein, Eugenics, and Elite Networks

• Extended conversation about Jeffrey Epstein's obsession with eugenics and broader elite beliefs in "cattle humans." (10:39).
• "All these Dalton School people deep in their heart believe in cattle humans…" (10:39 - Metzger)
• Hollywood, Davos types, legacy financial families (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc.) are all implicated in this worldview.
• Discussion of whether Epstein is still alive, and links to eugenics/elite breeding projects.
• Outrage about government and media complicity in redacting the Epstein files, and the non-response from the public:
  • "We just found out our leaders eat kids and me and one black guy at the airport care." (50:29)

3. Freemasonry, The Occult, Numerology, and Secret Societies

• Metzger (and sometimes Gagnon) discuss the recurring significance of numbers like 33, the "Nine," and the prevalence of occult symbolism in pop culture.
• Hollywood, Disney, and the entertainment industry are portrayed as imbued with occult symbology and teachings—Disney as a Freemason/"dark magician" outfit with recurring number/club symbolism (e.g., Club 33) (23:44, 23:49).
• Notable mention of The Nine — a concept that appears across esoterica, entertainment, and science fiction, and its supposed origins in ancient secret societies linked to Herod Agrippa, Caligula, and the formation of what became Freemasonry (36:57, 37:51).

4. Predictive Programming, Mind Control, and Psychological Warfare

• Metzger frequently parallels conspiracy theories and real-world examples of psychological programming:
  • Casino color/light design as a form of "sissy hypno" and early predictive programming (05:13).
  • The pentagram and golden ratio in Disney media—a literal demonstration of "math magic" and hidden messaging for children (18:49–19:41).
• The conversation repeatedly cycles to MK Ultra, Monarch-style trauma, hypnosis, suggestion, and dissociative programming (e.g., Dalai Lama succession, ritual patterning) (82:59–83:55, 138:14).

5. Religion, Luciferianism, and Institutional Corruption

• Christianity's populist, anti-elite ethic is contrasted sharply with current "Luciferian" world elite behaviors (40:16).
• Discussion of Luciferian and Satanic infiltration of churches and modern "faith leaders" as scam artists and cultists (130:49–133:36).
• The Kardashians, Branham, and the international evangelical movement—direct lineage to occult/fake Christian prosperity gospels (134:16).

6. Geopolitics, Disinformation, and the American Empire

• Ongoing American conflict (Iran, Israel, Ukraine), the perpetual war machine, and elite manipulation of public opinion (30:05–45:45).
• The creation and deployment of AI avatars as government officials (see: Albania's "Diella," the AI minister "pregnant" with 83 AI offspring) as a preview of technocratic social control (59:24–62:50).
• The use of religion, race, and culture in "full spectrum dominance" models—modern soft power as a form of mass mind control.

7. Pop Culture Hypocrisy, Predictive Programming, & Magic Tricks

• The Beatles, K-pop, and pop stardom as vehicles for grooming, exploitation, and hidden psychological programming (51:16, 162:58).
• Discussion of the "Statue of Liberty" David Copperfield trick as symbolic of everyday lies/"everyday magic"—the original trick is the lie itself (108:17).

8. Notable Examples and “Proofs”

• Play-by-play breakdown of Alan Dershowitz’s 2002 defense of so-called "child pornography consumers"—Metzger implicates establishment figures in the normalization of pedophilia (67:20–73:26).
• Bob Dylan, Sammy Davis Jr., and other musicians openly discussing deals with the devil, or satanic influence in casual interviews (122:49–126:28).
• Gene Roddenberry’s "creepy" family revelations and occult references in Star Trek and other sci-fi.

9. Systemic Racism, Slavery, and Historical Hypocrisy

• The connection between Ivy League schools, generational wealth, and slave-owning roots (97:06).
• American slavery’s legal perpetuation through peonage, chain gangs, and the imprisonment loophole (98:37–100:28).

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

Mind Control and Abuse

• "Ain't nobody going to rehab 18 times because their dad didn't diddle them. That's what I think." — Metzger (27:57)
• "Look, you gotta gaslight your kids about their f***ed up life somewhere, right?" — Metzger (04:35)
• "Rob Reiner, Carl Reiner, kiss on the mouth...there's a plethora of photos. You tell me if there's a problem..." — Metzger (49:16)
• "All the normal shit. What's fucked up? Yeah, your baseball is fucked up...Baseball, it's boring for a reason." — Metzger (126:45)

Epstein & Eugenics

• "All these Dalton School people deep in their heart believe in cattle humans and eugenics." — Metzger (10:39)
• "We just found out our leaders eat kids and me and one black guy at the airport care." — Metzger (50:29)

Celebrity & Occult Connections

• "Walt Disney's real name is Artur Beak... Minnie was his sister that he used to pimp out." — Metzger (23:44)
• "Sammy Davis went to dinner with Michael Aquino... he worshiped the devil." — Metzger (122:49–124:46)

Numerology, Freemasonry, the Nine

• "Just the way Steve Bannon and Epstein came up with QAnon, Herod Agrippa and his eight friends, they called themselves the Nine." — Metzger (36:57)
• "Club 33—anytime 33 comes out, that's their secret club gang sign." — Metzger (23:44)

Geopolitics, War, and the Elite

• "We never won a war as long as I've been alive. What is everyone talking about?" — Metzger (30:48)
• "The whole world is run by Satan—is the teaching of Christianity." — Metzger (40:56)

Media and Predictive Programming

• "If you recall on tv, they're like, 'No camera trickery.' So what did you think? Mirrored. That's what I thought... but it was camera trickery." — Metzger (108:17)
• "That's predictive programming. That's what I'm talking about with magic..." (124:59)

Systemic & Institutional Malice

• "It's not incompetence. It's pure malice. They got a big plan, and the plan is to fuck America and crash it." — Metzger (58:25)
• "Modern soft power in government—A clown is a CIA agent... you live in CIA world." — Metzger (52:27)

On AI, Government Control & The Future

• "You're going to subscribe to your government like it's Hulu. They're going to put in Albanian AI Prime Minister. Here's a test market—Albania..." — Metzger (58:25–59:41)
• "That’s your future, dude. That’s what Larry Ellison, the actual president, wants…" — Metzger (63:13)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Dark Hollywood, Monarch programming, Paris Hilton abuse: 08:35 – 10:39
• Epstein, eugenics, Dalton School: 10:39 – 13:16
• Freemasonry, the Nine, occult numerology: 36:57 – 41:00
• Disney/occult symbology, Club 33, pentagrams: 17:40 – 24:27
• Gene Roddenberry, Star Trek, family abuse: 24:53 – 30:59
• MK Ultra/MK Monarch, mind control, hypnosis: 82:59 – 83:55; 138:14 – 140:47
• AI government, Albania, Diella and technocracy: 59:24 – 62:50
• Dershowitz defense of pedophile viewers: 67:20 – 73:26
• Bob Dylan/Sammy Davis Jr., "devil deals" in entertainment: 122:49 – 126:28
• Systemic racism, slavery, Ivy League hypocrisy: 97:06 – 100:28
• Project Blue Beam, predictive programming, alien psyops: 153:35 – 154:01
• Pop culture as elite magic (Copperfield, Seinfeld skits): 108:01 – 108:17; 112:23 – 114:28

Tone & Speaker Style

Kurt Metzger’s tone is irreverent, darkly comedic, often profane, and passionate. He blends deep skepticism of authority and the mainstream with anecdotes, analogies, and pop culture references to cut to the core of taboo topics. Host Mark Gagnon is both a foil and a co-conspirator—playing “normie” but clearly in tune with the themes, and is quick on jokes. Their rapport keeps the show moving rapidly despite the dense, often disturbing subject matter.

Final Notes

• This episode is extremely broad in scope, connecting disparate elements—Hollywood, politics, religion, ancient history, and modern media—into a unified grand narrative about corruption, control, and elitist malice.
• It’s best suited for listeners open to deep dives on conspiracy lore, institutional critique, and the darkest allegations against media, government, and elite circles.
• While much is anecdotal and “speculative history,” Metzger repeatedly references concrete cases, public records, and public figures' own words to support his arguments for those who wish to “do their own research.”

This dense, wild episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intertwining of power, abuse, and the occult in modern culture.