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For thousands of years people have looked at places like Stonehenge and the pyramids of Giza and asked the same questions. How did the ancient world know so much? How did they do this? Because the deeper you go into the mathematics hidden inside these structures, the stranger it gets. Ratios connected to the earth and the moon. Geometric patterns that repeat across civilizations that should have never had contact. Massive stones moved the level of precision that we still can't explain to this day. And according to Randall Carlson, this may all connect to an ancient body of hidden knowled passed through secret traditions for thousands of years. From the legend of Hiram Abiff in Freemasonry to Kabbalah to theories involving plasma, the mysterious fourth state of matter that is said to be 99% of our known universe. At one point, Randall even shares his own UFO experience that happened just a few weeks ago. He tries to answer the strangest questions in this entire story when looking at all of these megaliths. Where did this knowledge come from? How did they understand Sacred Geometry to such a precise level? Well, today Randall Carlson is going to explain everything from sacred geometry to Freemasonry to hidden mysteries and the possibility that all human beings have forgotten something so fundamental about the nature of reality itself. This episode is absolutely fascinating and Randall Carlson is an absolute legend. So without further ado, sit back, relax and welcome to camp. Randall, thank you so much for joining me. My pleasure, Mark, I'm very excited. As I was telling you before, I've seen many of your appearances on Joe Rogan's podcast as well as your YouTube channel, which is fantastic. Oh thanks. Has been the topic of many of my late night YouTube deep dives. So to have you before me is truly an honor. So thank you so much for being here.
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Well, thanks for having me, Mark.
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This is fantastic.
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Yeah.
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And you got the computer set up. This makes me so excited. This lets me know we're about to go on an adventure.
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Yeah, I thought we'd look at a few things. I would love that. I've been tracking down some mysteries for a while, and I've got some graphics and some images and even, well, even some video clips if I can find them here.
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But that's what the campsite's all about. It is going on an adventure through the mysterious. So you're in the right place. Hey, real quick, most people who watch this channel aren't subscribed. And when you subscribe, you help the channel grow and you stay in the loop with every new drop. Religion, camp, history camp, and Camp Gagnon. Now, let's get back to it. I mean, this begs the question, how advanced were the civilizations pre. Younger Dryas?
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Well, that's a, that's a, A very interesting question. And I think that they were very advanced, but not in a way that looks like our modern civilization.
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What could it have looked like?
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Well, I think we see some of the wreckage of it and some of the attempts to restore pieces of the civilization when we look at these, the ancient structures and monuments. Just think Stonehenge. Okay, Everybody's puzzled over Stonehenge for years. What is it and what was it originally? Well, okay, why? Oh, well, they had some religious belief, some barbaric religious belief, whoever they were. And in the old versions, slaves did this, just like in Egypt and this and that. Well, we've come away since then, but you see, we're faced with something like Stonehenge. There's so much more to that story. I think I have this one open here. Okay, so here we go. A Scottish provenance for the altar stone of Stonehenge. Now, we don't necessarily need to read this other than fact. Let's see.
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This is pretty recent. This is published in 2024.
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Yeah, very recent. Okay, so this is brand new, cutting edge stuff here. Okay, so looking at Stonehenge, the conception was always that there are two types of stone in Stonehenge. A rhyolitic bluestone, which is an igneous rock that made up like the bluestone circle and the bluestone horseshoe and the sarsen stones, which are predominantly a quartzitic sandstone. So two different kinds of stone there they made out the big ones you mostly see that you associate with Stonehenge. And I should have a. Let's see. Should have a. Okay, so in this, these are the sarsen stones. So you have uprights, and then you have the lintels, which are the horizontals, and they formed a circle. Right. And this is the sarsen stone. Sandstones, quartzidic rocks. And then let's see if I've got a. Okay, we're doing an analysis, a geometric analysis there. Yeah, there we go. So those are the ones. And then inside there, you can see behind them, that's the horseshoe trilithons. Right. Which are the same type of stone, and there's two different types of stone. Okay. There's not many of the blue stones left. You can kind of see right here. These are some of the blue stones, and they're the rhyolitic igneous, primarily in igneous rock. So here we know that our astronomical alignment is built into Stonehenge, Right? We can come over here to North America, and we can find the same astronomical alignments encoded into the monumental earthworks that were here before the Europeans arrived. We can find the same astronomical alignments, say, in Chaco Canyon out in New Mexico. If you go summer solstice sunrise in Casa Rinconada, it's a ringed structure, and there's an aperture. And the summer solstice sunrise, when it's far north as it gets during its yearly cycle, will shine a ray of light through that aperture across to the other side of the ring. And then there's a niche in the wall that obviously held something, an effigy of some kind. And that beam of sunlight illuminates that niche. So. And so they were clearly having this observation. There's some kind of a ceremony, some kind of a. You know. But so here in Chaco, the point is, in Chaco Canyon in New Mexico, and this is presumably going back a couple of thousand years ago, they're making the same observation as whoever built Stonehenge. Right? Now, when the sun rose, passed over the heel stone, passed through an aperture in the uprights, and it illuminated the altar stone, which was a stone that was sitting more or less in the middle. Okay, so. Here's where this is going with this. Now, this is just a geometric analysis of the sacred geometry in Stonehenge. Let's see what this says. Okay, Lunar stands still. Let's keep going. Okay, so now this is Newark in Ohio, and this was one of the monumental earthworks that I refer to quite frequently. And it has exactly the same lunar and solar alignments as Stonehenge.
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I mean, the most obvious explanation would be this is some type of ancient record keeping and that they're able to have the solstice alignment. And then when they see the sun goes right through these uprights and falls into an effigy, then they know that it is officially the time to start summer or the time to start winter.
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However, you can also tell that just by putting some sticks in the ground, you don't have to move a whole bunch of 10 ton stones and quarry them and move them 20, 30 miles or 200 miles like the blue stones. But what this is about, this new weirk work, is about the altar stone. Okay, there we can see up here. You see where it says the altar stone. It's laying down now, it probably stood on this axis. You see, this is the summer solstice sunrise axis. So morning of summer solstice, as the sun's coming up, it's illuminating this stone, the altar stone. Okay, so let's just skip past all of this for now. Okay, here we go. So Stonehenge, the Neolithic standing stone circle located on Salisbury plain in Wiltshire, England, offers valuable insight into prehistoric Britain. Construction at Stonehenge began as early as 3000 BC with subsequent modifications during the following two millennia. The megaliths of Stonehenge are divided into two major categories, Sarsen stones and bluestones. The larger sarsens comprise duracrust silcrete, predominantly sourced from the west woods, Marlboro, approximately 25 kilometers north. So it'd be quarried and then hauled over. Right. Thus we posit. Okay, so now, but here's the thing. I'm going to back up a little bit. Let's see if maybe, maybe I can. Yeah, here we go. Let's see. So the central megalith of Stonehenge, the altar stone, is the largest of the bluestones, measuring 4.9 by 1.0 by 0.5 meters. Now, 4.9 meters will be about 15ft. So it's a pretty good sized stone, right? Yeah. And it is a recumbent stone now weighing what is that, six tons and composed of pale green micaceous sandstone with distinctive mineralogy. Now that clue right there, distinctive mineralogy containing barite, calcite and clay minerals with a notable absence of potassium feldspar. Previous petrographic work on the altar stone has implied an association to the old red sandstone or the ors, a late silurian to Devonian sedimentary red rock assemblage that crops out widely throughout Great Britain and Ireland. But then here we go up here. This says constraining the provenance of the altar stone could give insights into the connectivity of Neolithic people who left no Written record when the altar stone arrived at Stonehenge is uncertain. However, it may have been placed within the central Trilithon HorseShoe during the second construction phase around say, 2500 BC or 4500 years ago. Which is interesting because that's the date for the old kingdom of Egypt and the primary period during which the Ziggurats in Samaria were being built. And it's also precisely the date of the first monumental earthworks in America in Louisiana, Poverty Point, Watson Break and several others. Okay, so an early proposed source for the altar stone from Mill Bay, Pembrokeshire, close to the Minid. I have a hard time saying that Minid Preseli, the source of the doleritic and rhyolitic bluestones. So basically what it's saying there is that they always thought that the altar stone came from this place in Wales where the rest of the bluestones came from.
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Different place.
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Different place. That's right, different places. However, inconsistencies in petrography and detrital zircon ages between the altar stone and the Koshaesthen subgroup have ruled this source out. So where did it come from? Well, I think I've got a map here to show that and go to the next slide. Here we go. So here's Stonehenge at the bottom, up at the very top. See if I can get my, get my cursor back. But you can see right up at the very top of Scotland.
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That little red.
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That little red. Yeah, that's where it came from.
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Wow.
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So they went way up there. And so then. Okay, so then it says the BBC reports that this discovery that it came from up there shows the construction of Stonehenge was a far greater collaborative effort than scientists realized. It also means that the ancient monument near Salisbury in southwest England was built with stones from all parts of Great Britain. So here's quoting some of the archaeologists or geologists, I'm not sure which they were that realized this. He says it blew our socks off when we discovered it was from northeast Scotland. Professor Pearce, who was also involved in the current discovery, told BBC News it was a shock to say the least. Coming from that distance, more than 700 kilometers was remarkable. The Neolithic people must have been pretty well connected. Far more connected than people give them credit for. They must have been very well organized. Stonehenge seems to be this great British endeavor involving all the different people from all over the land.
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I mean, a six ton, 15 foot stone getting brought from the most northern part of the island.
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Yes.
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All the way down to the south where Stonehenge is.
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And they had to cross mountain barriers through thick forests, rivers, rivers. So somebody said, oh, well, they took it by sea. Well, if you look at the North Sea. North Sea is famous for its storms, its gales, you know, fierce, the number of ships that have been lost. No, it would not have been any easier to take it by the North Sea by boat. Right, well, so another participant in the altar stone study was Dr. Robert Eicher Escher, I don't know, from University College London, who was quoted by the BBC as saying this work prompts two important how was the altar stone transported from the very north of Scotland, a distance of more than 700 kilometers or 435 miles, to Stonehenge? And more intriguing, why? There are obvious physical barriers to transporting by land and an equally daunting journey if going by sea. These findings will have huge ramifications for understanding communities in Neolithic times, their levels of connectivity and their transport system systems. One of the senior curators working for English Heritage, which oversees and monitors Stonehenge, Heather Sebayer, was compelled to comment that it is phenomenal that the people of the time brought such a large stone all this way. They must have had a compelling reason to do it. In an interview with Phys.org, sibyer speculates that Stonehenge isn't a settlement site, but a place of ceremony or ritual. But what does that mean? What kind of ceremonies? What kind of rituals? Okay, yes, they must have had a compelling reason for doing so. And we might ask, what is the nature of a ceremony or ritual that Requires transporting a 6 ton stone over 460 miles? To simply say it had a ritualistic or, and this is me writing here, to simply say it had a ritualistic or ceremonial function tells us nothing. I would submit that it was the unique mineralogical properties that compelled these megalithic builders to undertake such a daunting task, whether by land or sea. But this opens a can of worms most archaeologists are loath to acknowledge. It has been demonstrated convincingly that these builders were also astronomers, and it is undeniable that they were highly capable engineers. It is now appearing, likely with evidence like this, that they were geologists as well. But this reasonable conjecture carries some seriously thought provoking implications. Perhaps it is time to expand our thinking and realize that the ancient ritualistic functions of these forgotten people were not predicated upon superstitious or groundless beliefs, but had, in fact, a scientific purpose. This leads us to a conjecture I've been proposing for decades. The sacred structures found all over the ancient World, whether temples, pyramids, earthworks, megalithic structures or cathedrals exhibiting such striking parallels in design and function, reaching across time and space, were components of an archaic technology, a technology that has been lost for centuries, if not millennia, and is now on the verge of being rediscovered.
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Hmm. So what is it about that stone, specifically, when you mentioned this mint, this material property, as also noted in the paper, this distinct material property, barite, high concentrations of barite. And what does barite do?
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Yeah, we better ask Tristos.
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He knows as good as any of us.
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Yeah, I mean, barite, what do we. I've looked up. I've done some research on barite, for sure.
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Does it have, like, magnetic properties? Does it have electrical properties? I mean, what is it about this material that is so striking?
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That's the question.
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So barite concentrations vary widely depending on the geological setting. Trace amounts exist in many environments. Major commercial deposits occur as bedded sedimentary deposits, often comprising 50 to 90% of Barite by weight. Embedded deposits like those in Nevada, Arkansas and China account for the vast majority of the global reserves. It acts as a gauge. Material concentrations are highly localized in veins. What an interesting.
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See, and I don't have the answer to that because, I mean, this came out in 2024. I said, okay, so how the archaeologists and geologists realized it was not from Wales was because the mineralogy did not match that. So they began to look. There's a whole database now that covers large parts of the world that identifies what types of rocks, the petrology of different kinds of rocks, and where they're found. And so by looking at that database, they found. Well, the only place we're finding rocks with this particular mineralogy is like, the Orkneys and the very northern tip of Scotland, right? So here. And what was the distinctive mineralogy was this high concentration of barite. Now, then I looked and I thought, okay, so now let's suppose that for whatever reason, it's this unique mineralogy that made it so compelling to get this type of rock. Well, just like the archaeologist said, there must have been a reason. Right? Now the question is, okay, let's think of the function. The altar stone is there. The sunlight comes through and illuminates it on a certain special day of the year. Well, is there something that happens? See, this is where my own research right at this time is asking this question, and I don't have the answer to it, but it fits a whole lot of other research that would suggest that we're seeing a piece of some kind of an ancient technology. They didn't go all the way up almost 500 miles, quarry this rock and haul it all the way back. Why not just go over where you got the sarsen stones 20 miles away and get the altar stone there? No, they didn't do that. Well, so if they had a very compelling reason, well, they also must have known, okay, where is the stone that has this unique property? Well, they knew where to find it, which tells me, okay, so they're looking, they're not only astronomers, they're looking at
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the geology and finding specific types of
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stones, finding specific types of stone to create this structure. Right. So you see, I skimmed through some stuff showing the, the geometry, and it's part of this corpus of sacred geometry that we find prevalent in ancient structures all over the world. So I've gone into great detail on the similarities and parallels between sacred structures, what we call sacred structures, going back to the dawn of recorded history, potentially now with places like Gobekli Tepe way beyond recorded history, but coming all the way down really through the Middle Ages and at a wide geographic range around the planet, showing that there's commonality, that we find a common geometry amongst these structures. We find common orientations over and over again, the same orientation to the celestial movements and we find other things as well. And we won't have time to get into all of that today because we're going to probably have to do at some point of follow up.
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I think so, yeah. Also a similar timeline as well. You pointed that out.
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Yeah.
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That you said, I think this was 4,600 years ago, which is roughly the time of the old kingdom in Egypt. The creation of the great pyramids of Giza as well, as you said, the mound structures that are found throughout North America.
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Yeah. Yes. All right, so this is basically a reconstructed ground plan and you've got an outer circle and then you've got. So the outer circle would be the sarsen stones. Then you've got the next circle inside, which is the bluestone circle. Then you've got the sarsen horseshoe, which are the big trilithons or the biggest stones, big uprights with a lintel on top. Then inside that you have another horseshoe, smaller stones, those are also blue stones. Then you've got the altar stone. Right. And they're laid out in a very concise geometry. Let's see if we can go to the next one. And these, if you can see there, that's showing the relationship of the two circles. Well, and here is some of the dimensions. Now these dimensions, you know, you can split hairs over these dimensions, but it doesn't really matter. What matters is that they're very close. In other words, the dimensions I've got here. If we were to reproduce Stonehenge and use the dimensions I've got here, you wouldn't be able to tell really the difference. One analogy I use is. Suppose we know there are different tuning systems in music, right? The Dorian system uses 430 cycles. 432 cycles per second. Our modern system is 440. Right. Now, there's a difference there. I mean, we could calculate what the percentage difference is, but most people, unless you're a trained musician, you're not going to detect that eight cycle per second difference. Right? So these measurements might, sure, you might be talking 100.7 or 100.9, but it doesn't change the overall relationship. That is critical to bring things, patterns, frequencies into phase. Okay, so what I've done here is I've gone through some of the various numbers and ratios. So you've got the Bluestone Circle 79.2ft inside the Sarsen Circle of 100.8. And when you take the ratio of those two, it works out to 1.272727. And, you know, again, within a margin of error of, you know, a few inches. A few inches up to maybe 3 or 4 inches, 5 inches. But it doesn't negate the significance of the geometry. Right. And we wouldn't expect to find precision geometry after all of this time anyway.
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Were they trying to achieve 1.25 as a perfect ratio, maybe making it 100ft and 80ft, or do you think they were trying to make it this specific number?
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I think they were trying to make it this specific. This specific ratio right here. And let's see. Do I have my calculator here? Okay, let's see. Ah, there it is. Okay. You ever use this calculator?
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Sure.
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Okay, so check out, let's do 100.8 divided by 79.2 and see, just let's check my numbers there, make sure 1.27 is correct.
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1.27. 27273.
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Yeah.
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Okay, 2.7 a couple times. And then three.
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Yeah, and then it's rounding off. Okay. What's the difference between 100.8 and 79.2? What's the difference between the two? So subtract 79.2 from 100.8.
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20. Wait, wait, wait. Which one?
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You said I'll put in 100.8 and subtract 79.2.
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I need to reset this oh, here we go. 100.8 minus 79.2.
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What? You get
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21.6.
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Okay, 21.6. And we've got 79.2. Okay, so now do the ratio of this number to this. Let me put it. 79.2 to 21.6.
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Three point six, repeating.
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Three point six. Okay. All right. Now, let's see. Put in. Let's. We're trying something here. Put in 79.2. No, let's get rid of the decimal, put in 7920 and divide by 3.6. What'd you get?
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2,200.
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2,200.
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Did I do that right?
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Yeah, you're very close, very close. But we've rounded off some numbers here. Let me see the calculator for a second here.
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Sure.
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Okay, so we got 79.2 divided by 21.6. 3.6 repeating. Okay. Okay. So virtually what you've done here, this ratio here. Okay, so Christos, look up there and tell me what in miles, or tell me what the diameter of the moon is.
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2159. 2159 miles.
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Round numbers. What would that be?
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2159.
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2160. Right.
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Yes. Sorry.
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What is the mean diameter of the Earth?
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12,742 kilometers. Or in miles, it would be 7,918.
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So Earth Moon ratio, right there. That's what that is within, you know, a few miles.
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Right.
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But on astronomical.
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Negligible.
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Negligible. Yeah. So, yeah. So now the question we need to ask, is that coincidence, is it? Coincidence? So here we have a square that's enclosing the inner circle. You see that its diameter, its side length is 79.2. Right. Okay. So that encloses the circle. Now, 79.2 times four gives us the perimeter of that square. So 79.2 times four gives us THE perimeter of the square, and it's this number right here. Now, I'm not going to get into that number because this number here is going to take us really down a deep rabbit hole.
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316.8.
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Yeah, yeah, 316.8. So if you were to take the Earth at 7920 and enclose it in a square like that, the geometry would then give you that that square has 31,680 miles around its perimeter. Right? So now if we take the outer circle, which was 100.8, so we're going to take the outer circle, 100.8, and we're going to use builder's pie, which is 22 over 7. So here's what you can do. You're going to put. In fact, you could do it put 100.8 times 22, Divide by 7. What'd you get?
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316.8.
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Yeah. So what we have here is the solution to the Squaring of the Circle exercise, which was the preeminent geological problem of antiquity, but it's built right here into the proportions of Stonehenge to within a high degree of accuracy. Now, again, is this coincidence that we have the solution to a geometric problem that has deep symbolism to it, the squaring of the Circle. That's why I'm calling my podcast the Squaring of the Circle, because it was like the problem that was considered to be impossible to solve mathematically. However, there were ways to approximate it to such a high degree of precision that it didn't matter for practical purposes. Now, this is just the first level of diving into this geometry here that appears to have provided the template for Stonehenge. Now, we can split hairs, and people do, and that's. Well, this doesn't matter, because it was really. This survey over here says it was four inches different. Well, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because I think what we're doing here is we're dealing with frequencies, and frequencies don't have to be exactly precise to get constructive interference or destructive interference. You know, in other words, constructive interference means that one frequency will amplify another frequency rather than causing destructive interference. But it goes more than this.
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All right. And Ultra just dropped something that is going to change the game. It's already changed my life. So the way that I would think about this is whenever I'm tired and I'm sleepy and I'm not sleeping well, I am a worse person. Like, I'll literally, I'll sleep bad three days in a row and everything starts to break down. I make worse decisions. I'm less good on stage. I feel like I'm less good on the pod. Like, I eat poorly, I don't work out as much. And as I get older, I'm realizing more and more sleep is like the only thing that really matters. If I sleep well, I'm in a better mood, I'm a better husband, I'm a better dad, I work out better, I feel better. I mean, everything stems from sleep. Here's the thing, you take like melatonin gummies or something, they're dosed with so much melatonin, it actually will make your sleep worse. Sometimes you'll be too sleepy to wake up. You get like an over the counter sleep med. Like, yeah, that's gonna completely nuke your sleep. 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You know, we can add in, oh, so the so called Seal of Solomon and that has very unique geometries. And one of those geometries fits very nicely into the geometry of Stonehenge. And it gives us the radius of the bluestone horseshoe, the small stones inside. Now we fast forward 2000 years, same latitude almost exactly. East of Stonehenge we find Glastonbury Chapel or Glastonbury, England. Glastonbury Abbey, which was traditionally and through legends associated as one of the resting places of the Holy Grail. And on the east end of St Mary's Chapel of Glastonbury Abbey is St Mary's Chapel. And the ratio of the length to width is 68.6 long to 39.6 in width. Go ahead and put that in. 68.6 divided by 39.6. 68.6 divided by 39 point6. Think about something very close to 1.73.
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Exactly.
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Okay, now if you square that, hit the little squaring button, you'll see what they're actually striving for.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I just lost it. Okay, say it one more time.
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Okay, so 68.6. 68.6 divided by 39.6 and then square that and you're going to see it's almost three. Should be a little X squared button there.
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I lost this one right there.
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Okay, so there's your squared button.
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Yep.
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Oh yeah, there it is. 1.732. Now I'll square it and you see what it is. The square root of three. That was one of the key geometric numbers we find embedded in ancient architecture all over the world. That particular ratio. Now if the earth's diameter mean diameter is virtually 7,920 miles, the radius of that circle would be half of that. Put 7920 and divide it by 2. 3960. Divide that by 100. And what do you got there? You've got the, the side length, the width. Now the legend is that this chapel sits on the site of the very first Christian church ever established by Joseph of arimathea and his 12 disciples who left the Holy Land post crucifixion carrying the chalice. Carrying the chalice to England. And they presented themselves to the pagan chieftain Arviragos. And arviragos gave them 12 hides of land for him to establish the sacred precinct for the first Christian Church. And at the center of this square of land, he built a small round chapel. And that chapel was dedicated. The monks there that then inhabited this site for generations, dedicated themselves to the upkeep of this chapel. Eventually, it wore out and they replaced it with another chapel, but carried the dimensions of the original over into the replica. It existed for more centuries, and it finally fell into decay, and they built a stone chapel, and they preserved the diameter of the original circular chapel in the width of that. Now, is it Saint Mary, the Virgin Mary, or is it Saint Mary, Mary Magdalene? Good question. I don't know, but there's some evidence which suggests possibly Mary Magdalene. Now, what's interesting about this, as we go here, there's the ground plan of St. Mary's Chapel. Okay. And here's Stonehenge and the ground plan. And you'll notice the star here. Right? And you have this. And then we'll juxtapose it exactly the same scale. St. Mary's Chapel. St. Mary's Chapel.
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That's the exact scale of Stonehenge, of the original?
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Absolutely. This is Stonehenge and St. Mary's Chapel at exactly the same scale. So 2,000 years later, they carried over some of the same geometry that we find, forming the template of Stonehenge.
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Hmm.
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Now, 12 hides of land, how much was a hide? Well, it was 120 acres. So if you have 120 acres and you go times 12, what do you get?
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1440.
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1440. Ever run across that biblical number? There was 144 cubits in the wall of the holy Jerusalem, the holy city. There was 144,000 redeemed of the earth. In other words, survivors of the catastrophe. Okay, so you got 100. What was it? 1440-1440 acres. Okay, now, how many square feet in an acre? 43,560. Christos, you better check my numbers there. Square feet and an acre. 43,560.
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That's correct.
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And there were 1,440 of them. So go. Yeah. Still got one. Four. Four times 43,560. 43,560 equals a big number, right?
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Yeah.
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Okay, what's the square root of that number? Hit this. You got a square root button right next to your X squared button.
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This one?
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Push it. What'd you get?
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Seven thousand, nine hundred and twenty.
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The mean diameter of the Earth. Coincidence? Now, we could go on and on and on with this.
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I imagine these similar types of numbers would be recurring with the pyramids of Giza that.
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What now?
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Like these same Numbers would be recurring with the pyramids of Giza.
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Oh, yeah. Yes, we can find, yes. The correlations. Yeah. Yes, most certainly.
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And I'm sure with every other great
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megalithic structure, we find these numbers. This is part of a corpus of what I call the cosmological numbers. And these cosmological numbers are found in all these ancient structures.
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And what is your working theory as to why these are so?
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Because I think certain geometric proportions were critical to the functioning of this technology. Because I think, again, we're dealing with frequencies, we're dealing with wavelengths, and I think we're dealing with energies within the Earth. We're dealing with cosmic energies, we're dealing with the interface of terrestrial energies related to geomagnetism and cosmic energies, which could be related primarily to the heliosphere and the sun. But it goes more than that. I think we're dealing with right here. I think we're getting up dangerously close to the question of what was this ancient technology. And I see when I look at the monumental earthworks of North America, or I look at the stepped pyramids of the Yucatan, or the temples of even Greece, which we'll find the same proportions embedded. When we look at the temples and sacred structures of Indochina, Angkor Wat, Angkor Thom, we find the same ratios and proportions embedded there. I've got whole slideshows where I've got the analysis of the ground plans, the elevations, the Gothic cathedrals, for example, we find the same types of orientation. Why would you orient a cathedral to the rising of the sun on a certain day of the year? Why were whoever built the earthworks of North America, why were they interested in the positions of the relationships between the sun and the Earth? But not only that, the cycles of the moon. 18.6 year cycle is a recurring period for the lunar cycle between its maximum and minimum rising positions. Yet you can look at Angkor Wat, you can look at in Cambodia, you can look at the Newark earthworks up in the Ohio River Valley. The same alignments. You can look at Chaco. You can look at Chimney Rock in southern Colorado. Those alignments are enshrined in two natural pillars and a kiva that was built with an observation point where you could track that 18.6 year cycle of the moon? And it goes on. Why? Why now are you going to tell me that all of these disparate cultures scattered throughout the ages and scattered around the world, are using the same geometry, the same astronomical alignments? And as we're now seeing evidence of an understanding of geology, the work of Paul Devereux going way back to the late 70s and in the 80s, he was a British researcher who began to study the placement of all of the structures around the British Isles. The circles, the menhers, the standing stones. What he found was that there was a geological component. He documented this in three or four different books. He found that there was not only a concern with the patterns in the sky and the heavens, they were also concerned with what was going on below. In a sense, we've got the alchemical principle of as above, so below. And I think that these structures, Stonehenge, Newark Earthworks, the temples in Central America and the Yucatan, the temples in Peru, Bolivia, the structures even in Greece, because we find in a lot of them Parthenon is geometrically designed. Why are they doing this? I think that there is a compelling, to use that word from why they moved that stone almost 500 miles. There was a compelling reason. And I think the compelling reason is the secret of what they were doing is contained in the legend of the Holy Grail. Remember, Joseph of Arimathea traveled. He left the Holy Land and went to Glastonbury, presumably taking the Holy Grail, whatever that was. And now the legends associated with Glastonbury. Yes. That it was repository for some period of time of the Holy Grail. Well, what was the Holy Grail? Well, we weren't going to have time to get into the details of the whole corpus of dozens of writings of what the Holy Grail may have been, because every author describes it very differently, Right. No two authors describe it the same. Now, in the Christianized version, yes, it's the chalice of the Last Supper. Christ drank from this chalice and he passed it around amongst his disciples. They all drank from it. And he said, this represents my blood. Right. In the story, Joseph of Arimathea takes that same cup and when he is given permission from Pontius Pilate to remove Jesus from the cross after only six hours. Because Pilate first of all didn't believe that Jesus was really dead after only six hours because he said the Romans were masters of being able to prolong the agony of crucifixion. So he didn't believe it. So he sent the centurion Longinus out with his lance, pierced Jesus in the side, didn't get a response, came back, said, yeah, he's dead. Pilate said, yeah, go ahead and take the body. So what is Joseph of Arimathea? He goes and he captures the blood and the fluids coming out of Jesus sight, seals it up and it's that. Now we go From Bible to legend now, and according to legend, and he went with his 12 disciples to England, and hence the story and the establishment of the sacred precinct of 101,440 acres.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Now, I guess my question is, do you believe that these frequencies and this sacred geometry in these megalithic constructions has some type of material bearing on their ability to communicate with the divine?
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Yes. Yes. And I think that's really a component of the technology, and I think we're on the threshold of kind of right now rediscovering through the properties of the fourth state of matter, which I think is the. Which is sort of, you might think of the interdimensional phase between the material world and the spiritual world, the world of plasma. And that we know now from studies that plasma is very strange. And when subjected to certain frequencies, it can self organize into coherent geometric patterns. And it turns out that some of those frequencies are exactly the numbers and proportions we're getting from the ancient structures.
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What can you tell me about the geometry of the CERN Particle collider? Have you looked into that at all?
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No, I better. I guess I'd need to now, huh?
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I'd be so curious to know. It's this massive circular.
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Right. I know what it is. And I have not looked into the geometry of that. No, I haven't.
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I'd be so curious to know if there's some type of correlation there.
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Well, maybe there is. I'm going to recommend a book, if you want to read it, called the New Science of the Heavens by Robert K. Temple. It's about some of these emerging discoveries of plasma and plasma physics and some of the. Okay, so all for years, literally since I was a teenager and read books on UFOs, I wanted to see a UFO. Oh, I want to see a UFO. Years go by, I grow up, people tell me, yeah, you know, I saw this thing. So I said, wow, that's interesting. But, you know, from everything. From things. Yeah. My mother and I, we were driving along and we saw this ship and blah, blah. Or, you know, I saw these strange lights hovering, or, you know, I get these stories. And I said, why haven't I ever seen anything like that? What day is this? So a week ago Sunday, I saw my first something in the sky.
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What was it?
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I don't know.
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What did it look like? How could you describe it?
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Well, okay, it was spheres of light. Okay, so I'm at this Quest Ranch and Civilizations conference out in Sedona, Arizona, and there's a lady there, a young lady, who's been doing Sheila. I can't remember her last name. Beckett knows Sheila. Very, very, very interesting young lady. Very intelligent. She's doing work with frequencies, right? And some of the amazing associations with frequencies. She would be an interesting person to interview. And she could come on here and show you with her oscilloscope and put things up on the screen, just incoherent, and then subject it to certain frequencies, which same numbers, and suddenly you see them cohere into these beautiful geometries.
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I've seen this with like, sand and a subwoofer.
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It's like that.
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And you can play sound in the subwoofer and it creates a pattern.
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Yeah, it's like that. Okay. So she came in and she said, look what I've got on my phone. And I said, well, oh, okay. So I see these lights up in the clouds. She says, watch this. And she pushes it and these lights are doing this. Wow. So when did you take that? And she said, just now. What? She says, you want to see? I said, yeah, let's go out on the balcony. We walk out on the balcony, she pulls out, she's got these military grade night vision goggle binoculars. And she says, I'm not even supposed to have these. They aren't legal. But here's what I want you to do. Look up there. See that pole out there? Look to the right to just above that pole. Okay, I'm not seeing anything. I see the clouds and stuff. She says, keep watching. All of a sudden, this ball of light emerges from the cloud. A second or two later, a second one comes behind it. Second or two later, a third one comes behind it. I'm going, what is this? And I'm looking. And then pretty soon there's five of them. And they start doing this dance. And I go, what the am I looking at here? You know, I still don't know, but I have a suspicion what I was looking at, you know, what ball lightning is. Okay, well, whatever I was seeing, if it was ball lightning. Now, ball lightning is plasma. It's coherent plasma. That's all it is. It's coherent plasma. But whatever I'm looking at is not like ball lightning. You would see, you know, like some depictions of a show actually coming into a room. Or, you know, these things would have been very large because I could see them against the clouds. And they looked to me like huge globular balls of. Of ball lightning. But they're doing this very. Almost like an organized, coherent dance. And I'm looking. Okay, am I seeing something that's just totally natural. I don't have any concept for anything like this. That's natural, or am I looking at something that's intelligent? And I still don't have an answer, but I saw something that I'd never seen before. I couldn't explain what I was seeing, and it was very, very impressive.
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What was her explanation?
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Well, she didn't really give me any kind of, you know, I don't know. Then at that point, a couple of other people came up and what are you looking at? And I said, you got to see this. Look at this. So there's about four or five of us ultimately standing there, passing these things. And then I took down, while somebody else has got the goggles, I'm looking up there. And then I could actually see him with the naked eye. So that confirmed. Well, yeah, there's something up there. I'm now seeing it with the naked eye. But my takeaway is that I think I was seeing some kind of coherent manifestation of plasmas. But I don't know. I am still two weeks later, I'm mystified over what the hell I saw
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and why did you see it? And what ultimately was the frequency of the force that created the plasma to be so coherent?
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Yeah, I don't have answers yet, but I hopefully, yes, I'm going to ask Sheila what, Sheila, is your explanation for what, what we just saw up there in the sky. Because I've never seen anything like that.
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Bizarre.
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It was bizarre.
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Did you have a feeling come over you? Were you excited?
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Oh, yeah, I was excited. I mean, I got. I mean, I was. Yeah. I mean, I had goosebumps from head to foot. Like what? Because it surprised me. It's one thing to see little lights dancing around on her phone. Now I'm looking at this thing and I'm seeing, you know, this array of clouds up there. And these things are coming forth from the clouds and then they start doing this dance. They're whirling around each other in spiral like, motions.
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And it might sound strange, but did you feel as though you were observing something that was happening sort of ontologically, or did you feel like it was for you?
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No, I didn't really feel like it was happening for me. But, yeah, I think that it was. I mean, it was clearly happening because other people were seeing it then, too. And she had been out there and had seen it and actually photographed, videoed it on her phone and then came in and showed it to me.
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And it went on for probably 10 or 15 minutes.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Bizarre.
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And then they disappeared for a while. Somebody else is looking and I don't see them. I said, just keep watching. Pretty soon, here, they emerge from the clouds again.
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Again.
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Again. Yeah, yeah.
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And what time of day was this?
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This is like probably 11 o' clock at night. Maybe I should have marked it down what time it was. I was so flabbergasted by what I was seeing that I didn't even think of that.
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That is fascinating.
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I know.
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I would love to see the video afterwards, if you're able to get in touch with. You said her name was Sheila.
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Yeah.
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I would love to know if she still has a video. I would love to see.
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Oh, I'm sure she wouldn't have deleted it. I'm sure she still has it.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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And does that fit into your broader theory of how all of this works?
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Well, maybe. Because, really, going back to the book, I recommended, A New Science of the Heavens. One of the things that he's postulating in there is that under certain circumstances, plasmas can cohere into forms and exhibit signs of intelligence.
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I see.
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Yeah.
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And in some way, these frequencies can procure this plasmic intelligence. Perhaps.
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Perhaps, yes.
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I mean, now, I know I'm making some leaps here, but it just. It's striking to me that you have pyramids of Giza, churches in Glastonbury, Freemasonic lodges all adhering to the same sacred geometry.
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Yes.
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Perhaps they're all touching different parts of the elephant. Trying to understand what they're.
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Different parts of the. I've used that analogy frequently and trying to come up with some kind of a. And see, there brings us right back to the question of the Grail again, because my take on that is all these different authors. You can read the anonymous author of Parlevue, you can read Cretins de Trois, you can read Robert de Baron, you can read Wolfram von Aschenbach and any number of the others, and every single one. It's almost like you're reading about something
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different in the way they describe it physically. And the properties of it.
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And the properties of it, yes. And Kretjan, he was the one who really cast it into the Christianized version. But there are variances on the story that precede Christianity by at least a millennia. And like Christianity, appropriated so much of the earlier traditions, what we would call the pagan traditions, over and over again. Like Chartres Cathedral. I recommend going there.
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Where is it?
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What?
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Where is the cathedral Chartres?
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It's south of Paris, maybe 50 to 75 miles. And it's on A knoll in a little village. Pull up. Let's look at some pictures of Chartres Cathedral.
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I'm actually going to be going to Paris in three weeks.
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Well, you need to divert south and go to Chartres because Chartres. Yeah. It's one of the most important sacred sites on the earth on the planet, bar none. And we'll look at a couple of quick things here if. Okay, there it is. Yeah. The Chartres Cathedral is built at the crossing of several major fault lines that have water flowing through them. And in pagan times, there was a deep seated spring there that was considered holy. And that spring is now flowing into bedrock. And there's a crypt you can go down into. And you'll see a well down. You go down into crypt. I've got photos of it in my PowerPoint show here somewhere. But you go down into the crypt, you can look down in the water table. You'll see the water at the bottom of this well. And that's the water table. Now, if you go into the nave, which is the main channel of it, there's a labyrinth. Let's see if we've got pictures of that. There's the crypt. Yes, that's it. Yep. So you go down in there and you can see the well, and it looks down at the water table. Now, when you're up on the floor of the nave, the height of the vault is the same distance above the floor as the water table is below. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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As above.
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Again, as above. So below put in Chartres labyrinth. You know, this is great to have
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you just yell at him. It's great he figures it out.
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What a. What an awesome guy.
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A
He's the best.
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B
Yeah.
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A
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Okay, so take a good look at that. Now put in chart rose window, the great rose window. Now, this is as you're walking in the entrance in the west, you're coming in to. And this labyrinth on the floor is in front of you. There it is. Now, that rose window has the same diameter as the labyrinth. And at the threshold of the door, you look at the rose window up at the top above the door, the threshold where you walk in. If you could hinge that and fold it down, the rose window with its 12 petals juxtaposes right on top of the labyrinth. Same diameter, same position. Again, coincidence? I don't think so. I think all this is carefully planned out, right? Yeah. So put that on top of that.
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Perfect.
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And you've got a labyrinth winding its way through. And of course, the 12 petals represent the zodiacal signs. So if anybody out there listening has a solution to what the intentions. Here we go. Yeah, There we go. Good one.
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Hmm. Interesting. So is the idea that they're building these structures and perhaps along with ritual in order to uncover some type of wisdom information.
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Yeah. And the ritual is not just meaningless, I think. See, here's. Okay, I got another story to tell. When I was, what was I, 24, 23, it was about 1975, I was. I contracted to build a barn on next to a river out in Georgia. And so I'd never built a barn before. I'd built. I was a carpenter and built a lot of things, but I never built a barn. And then the owner of the property somewhere, he bought some used telephone poles. He had 15 of them. And he said, do you think could you somehow use these telephone poles to build a barn? And I said, yeah, I tell you what I could do. I could take those telephone poles and I could set them in the ground. I'll do Three rows of five each. And then I'll frame, I'll hang the barn structure on these 15 poles, which I ended up doing. And it worked very nicely. But so my first thing that I had to do was we had a level plot of land there next to this beautiful Chattahoochee river flowing by. And on this level ground, I figured out how big to make the barn, the width, the length of it. And I had, like I said, 15 poles. So what I did was I took stakes, grade stakes, and every place that I wanted to have a pole, I drove a stake into the ground. So I had three rows of stakes, five each. We then called the telephone company because they had a deal. They would come out with their auger truck, and I think it was some ridiculously cheap price. Like for $8 per hole, they would drill the hole, then they would use their boom to set the pole. Right. So what I did was I, like I said, I put three rows of grade stakes in. We called the phone company. Their truck comes out and parks up on the road. It was a gravel road. This was in the country at the time. It's pretty much grown up now in suburbia. But this is, you know, 75, I think. So. Okay. So the truck pulls up and there's two guys in the telephone company uniform sitting in the main cab. And it was kind of like a crew cab set up. And then they parked. And then the back door opens and this guy gets out. And he was like, very archetypal. He was tall and skinny, and he was wearing overalls, and he had an old hat on, and he was carrying what looked like a violin case. Okay, who's this guy, you know, and he comes walking down and something, you know, with a southern rise here, you want to. You want to drill here at these stakes? I said, that's the idea. Okay. He looks up, signals to the guys up in the truck, takes and opens his violin case. He takes out a water dowser. Yes.
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Dowsing rod he was using.
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I'll tell you what, he used old fashioned telescoping antennas, like on old cars, with the little ball at the end. So you pull them out. He had about a six inch sleeve he could hold, and then they were bent at 90 degrees. So he goes over and he walks over each of the stakes, and, you know, they're doing this like this. Then all of us, nothing happens. He walks over each one, and then he shouts up to the guys at the truck. Clear. Goes on the next one, Claire. All 15 of them, they're all clear. Now at first I'm like, I'm like feeling really self conscious because these guys are, they're doing something. They see some dumb long haired kid down here and whatever. Well, then he starts walking over like, we're here. The main house was 50 yards down. Then there was like a garage and a driveway coming in from the gravel road. And I knew that the water main had come in from across the road and across the driveway somewhere because one of the things we'd previously built is he had bought an above ground pool. And then me and my brother built a deck around it, right. Four or five feet off the ground. And then I knew that the water came in from somewhere across the road. So he. I was walking across the driveway and I'm watching and I'm like 20, 25ft away watching all of a sudden like. But like this, it looked almost like. I mean, it did look like somebody had grabbed the ends of the rods, yanked them into an X shape and literally put them under stress so they were like bending. And I'm looking like, what in the hell? Then he steps a couple of steps across and what do they do? They relax and they start doing like this. Then he walks in a zigzag pattern. And each time you could see this reaction in the dowsing rods. And so he was able to trace out perfectly where the water main was coming into the property. I was pretty impressed by that. Then he turns to me and he goes, hey, son, you want to try it? Well, sure. Okay. He gives them to me and I'm standing. Okay. And I'm feeling kind of self conscious. I step across that point and it was like getting shocked. It literally, if I had my eyes shut, I would have thought somebody grabbed the ends of those dousing rods and jerked him into that X pattern. And I was able to trace out that water main. Now, I've tried dousing a whole lot since then with, you know, some success, but nothing even like that first time. And I've thought about it a lot. Why did I get such a strong response that one time, the first time I ever did it? And what I've concluded was that it was the presence of this dowsing master right there that somehow facilitated that response in my own nervous system. And when I tried it on my own, he wasn't there. I didn't get that powerful of a response. That's the only thing I can think of that makes sense. And I've read a lot about dowsing since then and there've been reports, others have reported the same thing. Somehow there must be some kind of subtle connection, see, on the nervous system level, whatever it is. But I'm convinced to this day that we're looking at a plasma phenomena that water moving under the earth or even certain minerals and things creates fluctuations in the geomagnetic field that manifest as coherent plasma.
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I mean, as above.
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Again, as above, so below. Now, if we look at some of the ancient traditions, like look at Egyptian rituals, what they're doing, you see, over and over again, they're doing things with their hands. Right? Let me pull up one more thing here. This might. And I think that if you're trained and you've cultivated this level of sensitivity, I think you can detect these subtle changes in the ambient fields just using your hands, using your limbs. And I've seen evidence of that. Well, let's see. Here we go. This is a very interesting plaque of one particular pharaoh in gold from the 21st Dynasty. You have the four sons of Horus in adoration of the Wadjet eye, the left eye of Horus. Now that in itself is interesting, but notice the tail coming off there to the right and it curls into that volute. That's one of the primary manifestations of a coherent plasma right there in that tail.
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Fibonacci esque.
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It is Fibonacci esque, yes. And you'll notice the hands, right? What are they doing? They're performing some kind of a ritual. Their hands are like this. And I would say that what they're doing is somehow they are controlling the subtle energies, the plasmas, by virtue of knowing that these rituals aren't just some meaningless superstition, but they are literally scientific processes by which you can use the bioenergetic field of the human organism to control subtle energies and plasmas in the world at large, in various levels of reality. Let's look at this next one, which is the raising of Osiris. And you see the bird hovering over, which represents the. What's the Egyptian word? I don't remember the Egyptian word, but it's the life force of Osiris. See? And look at the figure on the left holding their hands a certain way. Look at the figure on the right. Same as you see in this one. Right.
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It's interesting. The one on the left is almost doing a baphomet esque. Pointing above and pointing below.
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Yes, also very mithraic. Same thing. Point pointing above and below.
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Would the Egyptian word be Ka?
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What did he say?
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Ka.
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Ka. Thank you. Ka. The ka is the same thing as the chi, the ki. What Wilhelm Reich called the orgone, what Carl Rickenbachter called the odic force. I think it's all the same. And I'm not the only one. I didn't originate that. I mean, other researchers have come to the same conclusion. The prana, the life force, the, the, the, the kundalini that moves through the human spine, etc. Okay, look at this one. Same thing, right? Look at the hands. Here we go. Look at this one. Now look at this one.
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Hmm. A very particular apron he has on. An energetic master, perhaps
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father of our country, performing an ancient Egyptian ritual. How many people know that? And see, it's too bad now that Freemasonry has got this totally ignorant, bad, conspiratorial rap, because the Masons, unbeknownst to most Masons, they're the custodians, I think, of the ancient knowledge, and it's encoded into the Masonic ceremonies, into the rituals, and it's profoundly complex. That's why there's 33 degrees within Freemasonry. But all of the symbolism of those 33 degrees is summarized and condensed into the first 3 degrees of what is called the Blue Lodge. And it is the Freemasons who have been the custodians and caretakers of sacred geometry without the Masons operating in secret. Why? Because Masonry was declared to be heretical by the organized, authoritarian church. And it was also considered to be not only heretical by the theological establishment, but also a lot of the kings and so on saw that any organization like this was a potential threat to the hierarchy of their authority. So there was centuries of oppression between the Middle Ages, the building of the Gothic cathedrals where this knowledge was encoded, and the final, the scientific enlightenment that we see emerging in the late 1600s and early 1700s.
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I see.
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And when the Freemasons came out of the closet, so to speak, in the early 1700s, there were four lodges in Great Britain that consolidated into a single lodge. They became the Grand Lodge of Britain, and they're the ones who oversee most of the lodges in the world today. That's where most lodges get their charters.
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Even the Scottish Rite?
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Even the Scottish Rite. Well, the Scottish Rite is a subdivision of the greater Masonic bodies. And in order to go through the Scottish Rite, which carries you from the 4th degree up to the 32nd degree, you have to be a Master Mason. You have to have successfully completed those first three degrees. The first three degrees is kind of the corpus of the whole thing. Then the degrees, the higher degrees, basically take parts of that and break them down and take them into greater detail I see, is how basically the system works. So you got the Scottish Rite, you got the York Rite, you got the Shrine, you got the Grotto. Those are called the Affiliated Bodies.
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So someone like Hiram Abiff would be an energetic master that understands the sacred geometry of how to construct.
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Yes, he was the architect of the Temple according to the Masonic legend, and he was prematurely murdered. And each of the three masters, King Solomon, King Hiram of Tyre, the King of Phoenicia, basically, and Hiram Abiff, who was the architect, they each had one third, one component of the word of the holy formula that when the Temple was complete, it was the utterance of this word that essentially activated the Temple.
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The tetragrammaton.
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Could be. Could be. Could be the tetragrammaton or some variant. In any case, as the legend goes, Hiram Abiff was murdered on the eve of the completion of the Temple. And so his part of the formula, the sacred formula, was lost. So one of the things that you learn in the Masonic ritual to this day, as an entered apprentice Mason, whence come you? From the west, traveling toward the East. Why leave the west and travel toward the east in search of that which was lost? And it's tied, I think, intimately into the legends of the Holy Grail. Again, because if we look at this time, between roughly 1175, 1150 to 1175, up to the early 1200s, a half a century, right in there, we see the release, you will, the declassification, if you will, of all of the Grail literature, mostly in French, a lot of it in German, some of it in Dutch, a few other languages, most of it was in French. And the release of this, the legends of the Grail, Chreton de Trois, almost certainly the three known authors, Wolfram von Eschenbach, Robert de Baron and Chreton de Troyes, were Templars, right? I think the Templars were also the custodians of this lost body of knowledge. And you have this period lasted about, at its peak, about 50 years. But if you stretch it out, if you look at the bell curve, you had a long tail at the beginning, a long tail at the end, and the whole historical range was about 150 years. You see the Templars, the rise of the Templars, the Cathars, which were, in a sense, a throwback and a recovery of the early pre Constantine Gnostic traditions of Christianity. And because of that is why the Cathars had to be exterminated by the authoritarian Church, which they were for the most part, until some of them went underground and you had the first schools of Kabbalah or Kabbalah. Kabbalah is, I think, the correct pronunciation in the mystical dimensions of Judaism. You also had the rise of Sufism. You also had the troubadours, which were, in a way, kind of like the Internet of the day, because on the outer surface, they were musicians, they were dancers, they were poets, they were acrobats. But behind that facade, they were also carriers of the sacred wisdom.
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They were mystics.
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They were mystics, yes. You had the troubadours. You had the first appearance of the tarot deck. The Tarot deck is a potent scientific exposition on cosmology and the origin of life and the origin of the earth. It's way beyond what anybody thinks it is. It's encoded in there.
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The Rosicrucians, would they fall in this as well?
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I think the Rosicrucians were a revival that came later, came during the 1600s, because there was a revival that pretty much is associated with the first appearance of Freemasonry coming forth from its underground where it was hiding for three or four centuries in order to preserve this knowledge. And the building of the Gothic cathedrals in Europe, you had the final phase of the classical sacred architecture. In Cambodia and Thailand and Vietnam, you had the final phase of the great earthworks. In North America, you had the final phase of the Mayan sacred structures. In Central America, the list goes on. But all of this stuff is happening at precisely the same time. It's almost as if you've got these people ready to go to work. I mean, when you look at a Gothic cathedral and I mean, go to France, you got to go, you know, in fact, I would recommend Reims, Amiens and Chartres. If you go to those three, you're going to just come away completely mind blown. You're going to go, my God, how did they pull this off? You look at the geometry, you look at the stonework, you look at the. And then you begin to ponder like the structures are like a complete departure from what came earlier in terms of sophistication. There are structures where the vaults are literally under tension rather than just compression. Well, you know, you got to have tension. If you're going to pluck a string that has no tension, there's no vibration, it's got to be under tension. Gothic cathedrals, the vaults are under tension. The mortar that bonds the stones of the vaults together is as strong as the stone itself, and that makes a coherent, singular, unified structural system. In fact, I've read some places that the exact Recipe for the mortar is not known, but I think it was Schwaller Delubitsch who wrote, who was the first man, by the way, to suggest that the Sphinx was water eroded. Wrote a two volume tome called the Temple of Man. And he is considered to be possibly the only man in the 20th century that was able to reproduce the unique refractive properties of the stained glass windows. Right. I think he was the one that conjectured that both the formula for the unique properties of the glass and the windows and the mortar was alchemically based.
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Interesting.
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Yeah.
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Now, one of the last questions I'll ask, and I don't know if you even have an answer for this, okay, but all of these structures, with all of these types of rituals, with all of this perfect sacred geometry at the exact right time, whether it's a Gothic cathedral or a Masonic lodge and a high ranking Freemason performing some type of act, what type of information could they ascertain?
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Well, see if you read the legends of the Grail, so whether whoever it is, Parlevu or Percivale, Galahad, whoever is the hero of the story, out seeking the Grail, there could be king. Now there's an ailing king, could be King Arthur. He's also called Bran or Bran. He's also called the Fisher King, he's also called Anfortas. Different names in each of the different ones, but in each case he's suffering an illness which has him debilitated or a wound that won't heal, something like that. Interestingly, in the story, in one of the stories, and I think this was in Thomas Mallory's version, you know, Lancelot, you know, part of the whole story was Lancelot was the best knight. You know, nobody could ever best him in a joust. He was like almost divine, he was so powerful. Well, you know, in the story then he has this affair with Guinevere, King Arthur's wife, and they've been out sleeping in the woods or somewhere like that. And he has this dream that Arthur, he's totally devoted to Arthur and he has this dream that Arthur has discovered this affair between him and Guinevere and he wakes up in a panic and he falls over on his own sword and the sword pierces him in the side in the exact place where Longinus speared Jesus, which happens to be the same place on the side where Jehovah opened up Adam's side and removed the rib to create Eve. So it's highly symbolical. Right. Now there's more that we could get into on that, but again we're probably getting close to our wrap up time.
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Sure.
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But.
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But I guess are they talking to God? Are they receiving information?
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I think that. Yeah, I mean, I think what's happening, I think is each of. See now, interesting conjecture within Robert Temple's book. He says, I think now we might be able to actually come to a scientific description of the soul. And it's a subtle body that everybody has that's composed of the four state of matter in a coherent type form. And he cites how many times during death you see, just like in the Ka, leaving the body of Osiris, something visible is seen leaving the body. And he says that he thinks, and you'll have to read the book and I need to reread it, it came out a couple of years ago, but the idea was that there may be this body within us composed of this very subtle material that stands halfway between the material and the spiritual. And under certain conditions, this body can be somehow cohered into this organized form, which then would allow, like the masters of yoga, who presumably can project outside their bodies, travel out to the shamans in Siberia that are. They can travel outside their bodies and come back again. Right. Well, so what Temple is proposing in his book is that, no, this is an actual science and it involves being able to manipulate that very subtle form of intermediary matter between the etheric realm, or maybe it is the etheric realm, the material realm, and the spiritual realm. Now, when you learn yoga and meditation, when you meditate, how do you meditate? Well, you're given a mantra. A mantra is a thing you recite over and over and over to yourself again. Right. It's usually considered a certain number of syllables. Oftentimes those syllables in a mantra will be six or seven, but you take six and the idea is you coordinate it with rhythmical breathing. Right. I studied yoga for a couple of years under a Himalayan master, and he could control his heartbeat by using his mantra. And this was tested, I think, at the Menninger Foundation. They scientifically wired him up and he then demonstrated he could slow his heartbeat down, speed it up at will. And he's doing this by setting up some kind of a frequency. Right. And it comes through the mantra and the breathing. So the breathing and the mantram work together. And now we can take for example, the numbers, like if you have six syllables and what is the average number of heartbeats, say in a minute?
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60 to 100. For average healthy human being, 160 to 100.
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60 to 100. Yes. So, okay, so when you're in A state of meditation, your heart rate slows down and 60 is the number that is often cited as when you're in the state of meditation, about one per second. Right. So if you've got 60 and let's say how many breaths you're doing, What will happen then? I would have done. If I was thinking I was going to get into this, I would have shown you the numbers. I would have done the numbers beforehand. The point is that when you do this controlled breathing and you're repeating this mantra, the ratios work out to be exactly the same as these numbers we're looking at. See? So that suggests something to me. And we could work through that in our next meeting. I'll have that worked out. But 60 repetitions per minute and 6. Let's see how many average number of breaths.
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Okay, so 12 and 60, those are magic numbers. 12 breaths per minute, Which is then 5 to 1 ratio. So then, yeah, you can work with the numbers of that and what you'll see is that you end up same ratios, same numbers. So like I have a mantra, it's six syllables, right? So when I would coordinate my breath and okay, so typically you have meditation beads, they're called mala beads, and there's 108 of them. And typically the way you do it is you have your beads. Let's see. Oh, some beads here.
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Yes, this is my rosary.
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This is your rosary. How many beads on here?
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Let me think. It's four. I think it's 40. And then the ones on the top, I think it's 40 around.
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Okay. Mala beads are a little bigger, but you took them. When you're meditating, you hold between your thumb and your middle finger. And each time you do a mantra repetition, you roll one bead. There's 108 of them. And so one bead is larger or distinct from the others. So that if you're sitting there in meditation and you're rolling, you know that you've done 108 repetitions one time through. If you do two repetitions, you've done 216, 216. If you've done four, you've done 432. And I would typically do four repetitions.
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432, which is, again, the frequency.
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Yes.
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Yeah, I see.
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So it seems like the meditation, you're creating the. You're restructuring or reforming the inner energetics, which I think then that Robert Temple is onto the thing there, that we're literally getting into the realm of plasmas. And the fact that these frequencies can cause these spontaneous self coherence, self organizations into these patterns, often the volute, often the vortex. And I think that. Now, this is conjecture, but I have good reason to get into all this. But I would conjecture that this was the basis of the lost technology and it's hidden in the symbolism of the Grail. Now, in all of the quests, they go out on the quest because they know that the Grail is the antidote that's going to heal the king, the alien king. And if you understand the symbolism of the original royal king and queen, it wasn't just. And why the bloodline was important was because there was a special property of the royal blood. And in fact, one of the translations of the original French versions, French name for the Grail is Sangreal, which literally translates as royal blood. The secret of the Grail is in the royal blood. And what was special about royalty? What was it that conferred upon the royalty the status that allowed them to be in that exalted position? It was because they could serve as the mediator between us mere mortals and the gods. They could interact with the gods. They could interact with us. And what was the key element that allowed that? It was in the blood.
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They had the divine right of kings from God transposed down through the physical blood that was from their fathers to them.
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Yes, yes. And coincidentally, what do we call the fluid of the blood plasma? Right. Why that? Well, anyhow, there's a lot of stuff here that we still haven't talked about because. But the last thing I'll say is that I'm working with Beckett on this, because I think what's happening today is that we've got this. It's like we see there's this decline in people's consciousness. I saw this tremendous activation of consciousness back in the late 60s and early 70s, and it got sidelined. I mean, there were people, a couple of million young people, mainly in America, but around the world, who were, like, suddenly asking really existential questions and looking, knowing that there was something deeper and questing. Well, you know, it's so easy to get distracted. I'VE been distracted many times.
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David McGowan would say that the hippies were created in a way in order to distract.
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In order to distract. Well, in a way, kind of. But you know, I mean, look how
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you know that this movement got co opted to become about drugs and sex and rock and roll and not about actual deeper meaning.
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Well, true, yes, I agree with that. Interestingly though, ironically, I mean the hippie movie was launched inadvertently by the CIA, you know, by testing LSD on unsuspecting students who then, you know, of course it didn't, wasn't working for a mind control drug. It was having just the opposite effect. You take LSD and then you started questioning authority. And I think LSD is sort of just the chemical incarnation of everything we've, you know, from the, from the plants world of plant medicine, you know, psilocybin, ayahuasca, peyote, et cetera. There's a bunch of plants that have those properties of somehow changing temporarily the chemistry of your brain so it becomes receptive to these higher vibrations. But so anyways, I guess what I'm getting at is I think we need a revival of authentic learning because what's passing for education now is really more accurately called indoctrination. Don't ask questions, just accept what you're being spoon fed, accept authority, et cetera. And I've been involved with education for many years. I organized classes for homeschools when I discovered the homeschool movement in the early 90s. Then I realized, okay, there are alternatives and they work. And so I was participating actively in helping to organize outside the authoritarian educational structure classes. And I had maybe 100, 150 students coming through there.
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I was a product of the homeschool environment.
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Were you?
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Yeah, up until six years here you
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are living proof perhaps you're obviously superior in every way. Your public school counterparts.
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Exactly that.
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Well, I wasn't. But at least when I was coming up in the 60s, it wasn't quite as bad and woke as it is now. But so, you know, I think that, you know, we've got in my, I think if we can go five more minutes, pull up one last thing and we'll look at. I was going to say though, the last thing about the Grail is that as it was the antidote to the ailing king part of the story is. And an important part of the story is it wasn't just the king that was ailing, it was the land. Like if you read, you know, Robert Deburon, he talks about when Percival, I think it was. Percival goes out in search of the Grail. He describes the wasteland. He goes out into the wasteland. The land has been laid waste. And the Grail heals the land as well as the king. And I think that's an important clue there as to what the Grail really is. And without having gone into any of the specifics of it, hardly at all. I can show you very briefly, you'll see what I've got here. And this is. If you look at this, I'm just going to roll through this so you can see. This is part one of my analysis of the Grail stories. This is part one. And this is. I go into extreme detail in depth. And, you know, there's your volume right there. Right. The mounds, the structures, the work of Wilhelm Reich of Tesla. The. This is very interesting. I wish we had more time, but we'll do this again and we can dive into this. This is my first part. As you can see here, it's pretty extensive and we don't have time to get into that now. I wish we did. I wish we had more time.
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Round two.
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We'll do that in round two. Yeah. But where we'll end it, I think, is if I've got this here, we'll pull it up, otherwise we're going to have to sit. But my thoughts for revising the educational system and I'm calling it Cosmogonia. I've laid out entire plan here for building an infrastructure that utilizes all the sacred principles, but in a 21st century manifestation or incarnation, if you will.
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And how can people access this to
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find out more about this?
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Yeah. Where will these resources be? How can they learn about this?
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This is what Beckett's working on right now. Yeah. So this is all material that I've put together, from the esoteric and the spiritual down to the practical. And, you know, I was part of a lot of the movements back in the 60s and 70s that, you know, I learned why some worked and why some didn't work. So I've incorporated all of that into these, into this thing that I put together here. So like it says here, this is the parameters of sacred architecture and building. First is the symbol, which is encoding the mythical and archetypal meaning. That's what it starts with. Then you go from there to the number and measure, which is the modulus of the plan. For example, there was a modulus used in Stonehenge. There was one used in Chartres Cathedral. There was one used in Rheims. And I can show you, for example, the Difference between the two. And the difference between Chartres and Reams has to do with the different locations on the Earth that they were built. The orientation, cosmic, astronomical alignments. Then the sighting. Sacred geography, which is the association with geological and geomantic structures and patterns. Sacred geometry, which is the harmonic design, form pattern and dynamic symmetry. And finally the alchemy, which is the preparing and processing of raw materials. So those are all of the separate parameters that you find consistently in sacred architecture. And this is sort of what it's about. Restoration of the ancient hermetic science of uniting earth and cosmos. Because we're out of sync. And it manifests every day we see it. It's the source of war and conflict and discord and disharmony in the world. Is the fact that that is the indication that we've fallen out of sync. The harmonic patterns are out of phase. And they're producing discordant energies that encompass the entire Earth. And they're affecting human psychology, human perception, human spirituality. And if we can begin just piecemeal, even establishing prototypes that can serve as models. I think this is how it worked throughout history. You had to create, going there and creating the little circular 39.6 foot chapel right in England. That's how it began. Of course, I'm thinking a little bit more ambitious than that, but so I've gone through, you can see sacred center, the ancient art of locating sanctuaries, Archaeoastronomy, linking heaven and earth. And the idea is to apply these principles. And then the manifestation of these principles in an actual infrastructure is the school. You bring people out and, you know, we have a ceremony and we're doing what those Borneo tribesmen are doing. We're showing how it begins with just putting a staff in the earth. And now we can track the motions of the sun, right? Starting with that. And that will give us the cosmic orientations. It can give us the key angles that are unique to where this structure is going to manifest on the Earth. See?
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So you don't build the structure. The structure tells you how to be built.
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That's right. That's right. That's right. So, you know, then I'm showing this. You know, look at this. So here's Stonehenge. Summer solstice, sunrise. Go to Ohio, to Fort Ancient. You have winter solstice sunrise. You stand just right at the center of this huge Earthen structure. And on the winter solstice, shortest day of the year, the sun rises right in that aperture. That's not coincidence. Medicine wheel. We can go through all of this.
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So where will your structure be?
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Well, you know, I'm looking in my backyard, I think. You know, again, my goal is to establish a prototype that can then be applied to anywhere. But I'm looking at Tennessee as a potential. I like the climate of Tennessee, the political climate there. And it seems to be a state that's beginning to really re. Embrace concepts of freedom. And of course, here, mapping the energy fields of the Earth.
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Dousing rods.
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Yep. Oh, okay, here we go. This is the pole. This is the pole. Barn, is that you? That's me up there.
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Oh, wow.
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That's me right up there. What am I, 24, 25 years old? 24, I think I was there.
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Wow.
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Yeah. And this was my assistant and my younger brother took the picture.
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Right.
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It was the three of us building this thing. Wow. Alchemy. Sacred sites of the Ninth Templar. Seed of knowledge. Stone of plenty. This is understanding the lost technology of the ancient megalithic builders. This is key stuff here, showing literally what can happen when plants are subject to these fields of energy. Right. Like, look at this example here. As it says, this is Iroquois blue flint corn. The top row is the control sample, harvested from 40 seeds treated under ordinary conditions, while the lower two rows were harvested from 40 seeds placed inside an ancient rock chamber in Ninham Mountain State park in New York for 75 minutes prior to planting. The chamber is located over a magnetic anomaly. The treated seeds produce three times as much corn as the untreated. And there you have it right there. That's treated in the rock chamber below. That's the control group above.
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Hmm. You got to wonder what that's. What that's doing to us.
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Yeah. This is. I was in a newspaper article in 1980. This was my company at the time, Tecton, Using ancient principles and renovations.
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Wow.
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See here? Just my. My version of patriotism. America, land of liberty, independence, self reliance, opportunity, enterprise, and unlimited potential.
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You get the Washington Monument up there too?
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Well, you mean that giant obelisk?
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Yep.
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Yeah. Okay, so there I am. Okay, so there's teaching sacred geometry to my first homeschool group in 1997. And this was the first group. There was about 120 to 150 kids by the time I got through with all of this. This group of three boys, we entered a science fair contest and let's see, 13,355 public, private and homeschool students, and we got second place nationally.
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Wow.
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And this is something else I did for my homeschool group. I took them out on nature hikes and geology field trips. And we'll leave it with this. The importance of kids being exposed to nature. Yeah, very important. Critically important. And so these are some of the ideas that we're weaving into this. First, it's going to be a digital online school where we're putting together a sacred geometry course, hands on. And then we're going to go from there, hopefully, ultimately, to a brick and mortar manifestation. But we'll start with the digital school online. We're calling it Cosmogonia.
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Well, I wish you the best. I'll be one of your first students.
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That's awesome, man.
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Okay, I'll include the link in the description for anyone that wants to check out this landing page so they can learn more.
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More. Great. Beckett can give you all of the specifics.
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Amazing.
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Wherever. We've lost Beckett, he's been banished.
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He's been exiled.
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He's banished. I saw a plasma plume kind of floating.
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Randall. God bless you, bro. This has been awesome. Truly, everything I hope for. Thank you so much. I'm excited to do it again soon.