Podcast Summary: Camp Gagnon – "UFO Insider REVEALS Genetic Proof of Aliens"

Host: Mark Gagnon
Guest: Les Velez (UFO researcher, founder of OPUS)
Date: March 24, 2026

Overview

In this compelling episode, Mark Gagnon sits down with Les Velez, a former Army artillery officer, corporate executive, and leading UFO investigator, to discuss decades of direct experience, field research, and psychological analysis in the world of UFOs and close encounters. Velez shares personal stories, foundational research studies, groundbreaking theories about alien contact and human genetic manipulation, and the challenges faced by those seeking help after anomalous experiences. The episode delves deeply into the psychology, science, and sociology of UFO contact, implants, support groups, and the ongoing cultural shift toward disclosure.

Key Interview Segments & Insights

Les Velez’s Background and First Encounter

• Les' Early Life & Background
  • Raised in Connecticut, military service in the US Army, and a successful technology executive.
  • Developed interest in UFOs after a vivid sighting at age 11:

    “Off to my right is this object that's silent, oval in shape, kind of self illuminated, no sound out of this thing and it's just kind of slowly meandering over the tree line. It scared the hell out of me.” (00:30/02:20)

• Interest led to involvement with MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) and later founding OPUS (Organization for Paranormal Understanding and Support).

The Path to UFO Investigation and OPUS

• Investigation Philosophy
  • Started skeptical and “nuts and bolts” focused. Early field investigations challenged this perspective.
  • First cases consistently featured reports of abductions and onboard experiences.
  • “I was totally skeptical...but then the next case, and then the next case, and then the next case…they were talking about the same thing.” (07:46/08:13)
• Formation of OPUS
  • Following a remarkable case involving psychic phenomena (woman who communicated with treasure ship captains after NDE), Les co-founded OPUS in 1994, a global support and referral network for experiencers.

Patterns in Abductions and Experiencer Reports

• Common Phenomena
  • Most abduction cases involve being taken aboard craft, physical examinations, and then returned—often with missing time.

    “They're brought on board the craft, they're examined, they're brought back.” (08:20)

  • Physical effects include marks, rashes, and in group support, consistency of unusual symptoms (e.g., groin rash from “dipping” in sanitizing fluid).
• Support Group Value
  • Confidential online group with ~1,000 global members:

    “They understand that they’re not alone, that there are other people having these kind of experiences and that it gives them somebody to talk to.” (11:31)

  • Rigorous moderation maintains neutrality and inclusivity.

Psychological and Scientific Studies

• The Omega Study (2007)
  • 71 experiencers vs. 51 controls, analyzed by psychologists:

    “We found that they did not have a psychopathology. They were not crazy. That rules out that issue.” (17:00)

  • 100% “passed” as having normal cognitive and psychological profiles (17:19).
• Lying and Delusion
  • Most experiencers seek help, not attention or fame; rare cases identified and removed from support group (20:28).
• Skepticism & Alternate Explanations
  • False memories, sleep paralysis, psychosis, and fantasy proneness examined; majority of experiencers do not fit these models (81:38).

Physical Evidence & Implants

• Case Study: Rash & Missing Time (24:26–29:17)
  • Couple abducted, missing time, persistent rashes confirmed not to be poison oak, similarity reported by group members.
• Implants (61:02–72:03)
  • Dr. Roger Leir’s removals: implants show anomalous compositions (meteoric iron, non-terrestrial isotope ratios), emit radio waves, and resist cutting—suggesting non-Earth origin.

    “Non-terrestrial isotopic ratios indicating the involved elements do not come from Earth.” (65:52)

  • Evidence viewed by Les at conferences; most implants small, unremarkable in appearance.

Consistent Themes Among Experiencers

• Entities Described (36:39–39:21, 58:21–59:55)
  • Small and tall grays, mantids, Nordics (“look like you and I”), reptilians, interdimensionals, orbs, and light beings are commonly reported.
  • Descriptions of crafts, abduction sequences, and entities share remarkable detail across reports.
• Positive, Transformational Aftereffects
  • Emphasis on love, empathy, environmental stewardship, denuclearization among those who return from encounters (18:05–18:10).
  • “Many people come back with very positive feelings about how we should conduct ourselves, how we should love each other more, how we should be kinder…” (17:25)

Genetics, Consciousness, and Evolution

• Genetic Argument & Evolution
  • Referencing Dr. Gary Nolan:

    “He says in order for us to be where we are now, the planet would have to be 9 billion years old. Unless some, somebody somewhere manipulated what was going on with us, pushed us along.” (130:14)

• Brain Imaging
  • Experiencers show unique neural connections in the caudate and putamen, possibly underlying reported psychic or telepathic abilities (130:30).

The Disclosure Movement & Government Secrecy

• Why No Full Disclosure Yet?
  • National security, compartmentalization, military contractors immune from FOIA, and split between “let it out” and “never release” government factions (97:36, 106:49)
• Recent Shifts
  • Lou Elizondo, Congressional hearings, 2017 NYT article as turning points.

    “That really opened up the floodgates in a big way.” (50:10)

• Global Secrecy
  • Other governments keep secrets for security; consensus is the US knows the most but new pressure is building for transparency (97:36, 104:34).

Skepticism, Debunkers, and the Limits of Proof

• Skeptical Perspectives
  • Host Mark expresses uncertainty:

    “Have they visited Earth, any physical capacity? This is where I'm like, it's difficult and challenging for me to really get on board with because I've never experienced it...” (20:52)

  • Les: Most people have no “ulterior motive” and genuinely seek help (35:52).
• Physical Evidence Limitations
  • Cases of missing implants, malfunctioning cameras, and disappearing artifacts are common (30:02, 34:55–35:56, 100:28).
  • "Government just removes evidence, archives disappear, press coverage vanishes." (114:16)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Consistency of Reports:

  “But the overall thing that they, they're taken, they're brought on board the craft, they're examined, they're brought back. That's it.” – Les (08:20)

• On Abduction Studies & Normalcy of Experiencers:

  “We found that they did not have a psychopathology. They, they were not crazy. ...100% of them were passed as just regular cognition.” – Les (17:00–17:24)

• On the Challenge of Disclosure:

  “But even if you had that piece of paper, 99% of the people wouldn't care… For those who believe, no proof is necessary and for those who don't believe, no proof is enough.” – Les/Mark (124:41/128:44)

• On Implants as Evidence:

  “Non-terrestrial isotopic ratios indicating the involved elements do not come from Earth.” – Les (65:52)

• On Generational Change & Evolution:

  “Our evolution has been sped up in some way, shape or form… we’re having an evolutionary process going on where eventually we will all have that capability and the ones that don’t have it won’t be here anymore.” – Les (130:14–132:54)

• On Positive Aftereffects:

  “A lot of these people come back with very positive feelings about how we should conduct ourselves, how we should love each other more, how we should be kinder, …better stewards of the planet.” – Les (17:25/18:07)

Timestamps of Important Segments

• 00:30–02:20 — Les’s first UFO sighting as a child
• 08:15–11:31 — Early cases: abductions, support group formation
• 13:19–14:19 — Scale of OPUS, website resources
• 15:18–18:10 — Psychological analysis of experiencers
• 24:26–29:17 — Case study: Missing time, shared rashes, group recall
• 61:02–72:03 — Implant evidence and Dr. Roger Leir’s findings
• 130:14–132:54 — Genetic argument, evolution, and psychic ability
• 97:36–99:12 — Government secrecy, global disclosure challenges
• 124:41–128:44 — The futility of proof and the catch-22 of disclosure
• 17:25/18:07 — Positive messaging from experiencers

Additional Highlights & FAQs

- Are there fakes/hoaxers in the community?
Very rare among those seeking support. Most fear stigma and desire help, not notoriety. (35:52)

- Are poltergeist, demons, and abductions related?
Often coincident but usually experienced/treated separately. Poltergeist activity sometimes occurs in abductee households. (54:44–55:32)

- Are psychic abilities a result of contact?
Some experiencers display heightened psychic or telepathic skills post-contact, sometimes tied to anatomical neurological changes. (130:30, 133:08)

- What kind of physical evidence exists?
Implants with non-terrestrial characteristics, documented rashes, and x-rays. Camera and electronic failures are widespread when contact happens. (29:57, 30:02, 34:02)

- What’s the hardest part for skeptics?
No “smoking gun” — resistance remains until irrefutable disclosure, but government secrecy, ridicule, and apathy stymie progress. (124:41, 128:44, 129:53)

Conclusion / Why This Episode Matters

This episode provides a balanced, experiential, and scientifically informed look into the hidden world of close encounters, government secrecy, and the rising “disclosure” movement. Les Velez’s decades of fieldwork and direct engagement offer a rare inside look at the realities (and challenges) investigators face in supporting abductees, researching evidence, and confronting the limits of cultural belief and scientific dogma. For both skeptics and believers, it is a thought-provoking exploration of one of the most perplexing phenomena of our time.