Autoblow 5000 on Canal Street Dreams

Summary

Canal Street Dreams

Episode: Autoblow 5000 on Canal Street Dreams
Hosts: Eddie Huang and Natashia Perrotti
Date: September 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this unique and highly candid episode of Canal Street Dreams, Eddie Huang and Natashia Perrotti invite an unusual "guest" into their conversation: the Autoblow 5000, an automated male sex toy. Drawing from their personal experiences, relationship dynamics, and broader cultural trends, Eddie and Natashia explore the evolution, impact, and controversies surrounding male sex toys—especially as technology and sexuality intersect. The discussion ranges from the humor and awkwardness of receiving such devices, to vulnerable insight into gender, intimacy, and societal shame around sexual pleasure.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Arrival of the Autoblow 5000

• Opening Banter & Discovery:
  Eddie recounts hearing about the Autoblow 5000 through their friend Kareem Rama and jokes about the rapidly escalating naming conventions for these machines. Discussion quickly veers into irreverent territory about sex toys as gifts for Father's Day.

  • "I'll be wearing that on my back in the bathroom just getting sucked all day. I'll make the coffee in 10 minutes." – Eddie (00:34)

• Initial Reactions at Home:
  Natashia shares feelings of surprise and a tinge of jealousy when the Autoblow 5000 arrives at their house, likening it to "a new pussy" showing up in the bedroom (01:54).

  • "It's always an interesting day when a new pussy shows up in your bedroom that's not yours." – Natashia (01:54)

2. Gender, Sex Toys, and Internal Bias

• Natashia’s Reflections on Double Standards:
  She unpacks her gut reaction, noting she's never judged women's use of toys, yet felt odd about Eddie using a device. This leads to a wider conversation on how society (and herself) often judges male sexuality more harshly, and the expectation that men always orgasm during sex.

  • "I guess I was feeling like a bit of a misandrist... I thought it was weird... But that’s just total internalized sexism on my part." – Natashia (02:11)

• Addiction, Porn, and Relationship Boundaries:
  Natashia expresses trust regarding Eddie’s habits, pointing out concerns only arise when such devices are symptoms of larger issues like porn addiction or sexual disconnection.

• "It’s like self-care to me."
  Natashia frames masturbation as healthy and part of most people's lives, unless it becomes compulsive and harms intimacy (05:13).

3. Exploring Technology, Sexual Experience, and New Norms

• Eddie’s History with Sex Toys:
  Eddie traces the evolution from blow-up dolls in pop culture to realistic molds and finally to sophisticated machines like the Autoblow. He shares amazement at its video synchronization capabilities.

  • "This machine can literally mimic what’s going on in the video... This thing is complete insanity." – Eddie (07:13)

• Comparative Analysis:
  Eddie ranks the Autoblow 5000 versus traditional hand, Fleshlight, and even "sock" masturbation methods. He finds the Autoblow 5000 significantly better than manual methods, but still only partially as satisfying as sex with a partner.

  • "Fleshlight is whack... Hand, great... This [Autoblow] is much better than hand." – Eddie (11:02)

  • On the sensation: "It feels like rough sex... It’s never going to be as good as it is with you and I, because we hit the corners... It’s like jackhammer sex." – Eddie (12:34, 13:18)

• Discussion of Women’s Sex Toys:
  Natashia talks about breakthrough devices like the Rabbit and the Rose, and muses on how design and cultural acceptance differ between men’s and women’s toys.

4. Social Implications and Dangers of Sex Tech

• Potential for Isolation & Dehumanization:
  Natashia and Eddie discuss societal risks as technology simulates intimacy, warning of further social isolation and blurring lines between consuming content and connecting with real people.

  • "Where’s the line between like doing whatever you want to do with a silicone sex doll and doing whatever you want to do with women?" – Natashia (17:10)

• Creator Responsibility & Harm Reduction:
  Eddie shares that Autoblow’s inventor, Brian Sloan, is aware of the dangers, particularly combining such tech with AI or exploitative content.

  • "He’s fully aware that the worst version of this ... is people hooking up snuff films to this. That’s bad." – Eddie (20:12)

• Necessity for Evolved Sex Ed:
  Both agree that as the landscape of sexual technology changes, so should sex education—shifting discussions to include porn, consent, and mental health (21:12).

5. Relationship Openness, Shame, and Personal Growth

• The Power of Honest Conversation:
  Eddie and Natashia attribute the health of their sexual relationship to honest, shame-free dialogue about desires, kinks, and boundaries.

  • "So much of people’s kinks and sexual releases are literally tied to shame." – Eddie (23:57)

  • Eddie recounts a childhood story about developing a boot fetish, tying it to a specific memory with his mother—a humorous, vulnerable exploration to demonstrate how kinks form (24:03).

• Advice for Listeners:
  They encourage listeners not to be ashamed, to talk openly, and to normalize conversations about sex and pleasure.

  • "You got to let it out. You got to laugh at it, and you got to, like, express and enjoy." – Eddie (25:52)
  • "There’s nothing somebody could tell me... We speak so openly about sex in our relationship... it’s such a cool part of our relationship." – Natashia (25:57)

• Celebration of Sex Positivity:
  The couple reflect on both the “vanilla” and the adventurous aspects of their sex life, urging others to find their own balance and comfort (27:48).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Societal Shame:
  "The United States is largely still very Puritan, very Christian... It’s like sex everywhere, but if you’re having it, you’re naughty or bad." – Natashia (22:59)

• On Technology’s Cultural Leap:
  "This is the biggest leap in sex toys for men I’ve ever seen, which is cool." – Eddie (28:35)

• Gift Ideas:
  "It’s a fun gag gift... But I got to say, this is the biggest leap in sex toys for men I’ve ever seen, which is cool." – Eddie (28:35)

• Episode’s Tone:
  The episode blends raunchy, irreverent humor with real vulnerability and social critique, maintaining the open, affectionate, and frank style that defines Eddie and Natashia’s rapport.

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Important Timestamps

• 00:32–01:54 – Discovery and first impressions of the Autoblow 5000
• 02:09–03:53 – Natashia unpacks bias and initiates convo on gender and toys
• 05:12 – “It’s just like self-care to me” discussion on masturbation and relationships
• 07:13–12:34 – Eddie reviews the Autoblow vs. other sex toys and methods
• 14:08–15:24 – Innovations in sex tech and synchronization with video
• 17:05–20:12 – Social isolation, dehumanization and risks of evolving sex tech
• 22:59–25:52 – On shame, societal conditioning, and the importance of communication
• 28:17–28:44 – The Autoblow as a gag gift, gendered gifting, and boundaries

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Conclusion

This episode delves well beyond mere product review—using the arrival of the Autoblow 5000 as a springboard for a nuanced, intimate, and riotously funny conversation on intimacy in the era of sex tech. Eddie and Natashia’s willingness to interrogate double standards, confront shame, and communicate about sex with candor makes the discussion a valuable listen for anyone interested in relationships, technology, and the ways we can grow through honest dialogue.

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Transcript

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's always a special episode, but this is a unique episode because we have an electronic device as the guest today. And if you've been following the show, you know that we discovered the auto blow 5000 talking to Kareem Rama. I saw a new thing though. It's called the auto suck 5000. It's a penis sucker. An automated penis sucker. Like an automated superhead. A blue. A blowjob machine.

[A]

Why do they have to call it 5,000?

[B]

Father's Day is coming up. I'll be wearing that on my back in the bathroom just getting sucked all day. I'll make the coffee in 10 minutes.

[A]

You know what? I'm right now.

[B]

It's only 120 bucks, bro. That is the number one Father's Day.

[A]

Gift I got you for all the.

[B]

Moms and dads watching. Definitely get the auto. I think it's a great Father's Day.

[A]

I think it is it the Gok Gawk 5000.

[B]

Auto blow. Yes. Auto Blow.

[A]

Auto Blow.

[B]

Shadow Chris, the producer with the Auto Blow. Have you tried it? Have you tried it? How many do you own? Okay, okay. That's cuz they do a lot of advertising.

[A]

Is anyone giving them out for free?

[B]

No, but they low 5,000. Yeah. Could I test one and give it back? And we asked for it for Father's Day. I specifically asked for it for Father's Day. Did not receive it, but shout out. Brian Sloan, the owner, the inventor of the Auto Blow hit me up on our sub stack and sent me the Auto Blow. And today the Auto Blow is the guest on Canal Street Dreams. Well, welcome the Auto Blow. Natasha, talk to me. You. You didn't really give it the warmest reception when it showed up at the house.

[A]

No, I mean it's always an interesting day when a new pussy shows up in your bedroom that's not yours. So yeah, I think maybe there's like a little jealousy going on.

[B]

You were jealous of the Auto Blow?

[A]

I wouldn't say jealous. I would say I've sat with the thought. And here, here's what I think. I've really thought about this because I wanted to come in, say my whole piece. I mean, she's popping her pussy, so maybe. I think I had some, I guess what would be the version of internalized misogyny. I guess I was feeling like a bit of a misandris where I was judging you and I thought that it was weird, but I think that that's my own internalized, almost like sexist feelings towards men because I don't feel that way, when women use any type of toy in the bedroom, I'm totally welcome and open to that. But something about this just made me feel like, that's weird. And I think what I'm gonna get back to, like, what I. What I felt like was men come every time. I'm like, every time you have sex, you orgasm, that's just a given. That's. That's just. That's like the. That's a standard sexual experience for men. And so I guess I'm like, yeah, okay. Greedy, gluttonous, need to come more with a robotic pussy. Crazy. Where I'm like, women don't reach orgasm every time they have sex. So it feels to me like women's toys are less offensive. But. But I was like, that's just total internalized sexism on my part. Like, I don't know, maybe there's something that you're getting from this that I don't understand, which I would like for you to explain to me.

[B]

I also think in an interesting way, it's like the debate that's about to go on and has been going on in the economy, in the workforces, in the most simplest terms, besides all of that, which I'm interested to hear, you just didn't want to lose your job. Because the thing you said when it showed up was you were like, I'll just suck your dick. And I was like, no, yeah, that's great. But sometimes at the gym.

[A]

Yeah, no, I don't think it's about not wanting to lose my job. I think it's kind of similar to, like, I don't want to job either, but definitely not, like, lose my job. Because, like, honestly. But I think, like, if you were just, like. I think that there's levels to this, right? Like, there's very real instances in relationships where people are, like, addicted to porn and they have no sexual interest in their partner because they're so addicted to porn. And they're, like, in their into things. Like. And it's just a whole nother level where I think then, yeah, that could be psychologically damaging for a relationship. I think it doesn't bother me because you're not that guy. Like, you're not. I don't care. Like, I'm like, when you're watching porn and jacking off, like, it has never. Like, it has just never bothered me. I know some women don't like that. They're like, I don't like when my husband watches porn. I don't like when my husband's, like, cranking it cranking hog in the bedroom. I don't care. I. So I like encourage that because I think it's just like, it's like self care to me.

[B]

Like self care.

[A]

I also do the same and I think most women do and most men do. And I think until it's a problem where you're like unattracted or in a sexless relationship because of this third party thing, which is like a porn addiction or something like this, but I'm like, this is self care to me. Sometimes you got to take care of it yourself.

[B]

To me, sometimes jerking off is just like doing 50 push ups or going for a run where I'm like, yeah, frustrating. Zoom. I might just go lay on the bathroom floor and jerk off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Slow. Starting the day, I might wait for you to like go cook breakfast. Lay down and jerk off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's kind of how I.

[A]

Okay. I have to say that's the only time it pisses me off. Oh, in the morning, I'm awake with our son cooking breakfast and you're jerking off in the bed. I'm just like, fudge, get the fuck up. Like that pisses me off. Find 15 minutes in the, in the day where I like.

[B]

But honestly, it makes me a better version of me. It like it really gets, but it.

[A]

Makes me a worse version.

[B]

It's like Dunkin Donuts.

[A]

Exhausted, making Eddie runs on jerking off. It would make me a better version if you found any other 15 minutes. Yeah, Eddie runs on jerking. I run on fumes because I'm in the, in the kitchen cooking for our kid. Which, like, you could do it. That's the only time it pisses me off. Any other time of the day, I'm like, I don't give a go. Do it wherever you want to do it.

[B]

I will say this about the auto blow too. Now that we've addressed some of the issues of me jerking off at home and at the times I've selected to jerk off. Noted.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's my, that's my complaint one noted thing.

[B]

All right. Maybe I will jerk off after making your coffee and making breakfast.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

I could do that.

[A]

Then you take 45 minutes, hit it twice. Oh, can you hit it twice? Do to.

[B]

Probably once. Probably.

[A]

Whatever. But I'm like, if you make my coffee, you make breakfast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This. Do whatever you want with this.

[B]

Okay. When I was a kid, I was just like, yo, this is going to be crazy because there were always like ideas on the Internet or like in movies where it's like the cyborg girl Right. Like the blow up doll. And I was like, this is so odd. Like, I don't want robot sex. I don't want to blow up. I was never a blow up doll guy. I would just, like, watch Fran Drescher on the nanny and hump the couch. Like, that's how I started off doing this thing. But as I got older, I remember like, around college, they started to do molds, like latex molds of porn stars vaginas. And then it was like they would do, like, latex molds of, like, dudes penises, like Lexington Steel, whatever. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. It's like the signature joint. Like the signature Fleshlight. It's like a trading card. Right? But I had no idea it would ever come to this. And the thing about the Auto Blow that is really wild is they sync it to porn videos that they license from amateurs on pornhub. And this machine can literally mimic what's going on in the video. And they train the machine to do that. Like, look at. Look at this thing. This thing is complete insanity. Like, complete insanity. And usually with a Fleshlight, you're just like, oh, like manually going like this. This thing, like, hits the corners. It's. It's wild. Like, what was it? You know, the Rabbit. Like the rabbit machine that, like, Samantha would use on Sex and the City. Right. Was that like a. Would you say what were the breakthrough toys for women? Because this is like the breakthrough toy.

[A]

For men, I think. The Rose.

[B]

Oh, what's that?

[A]

It's like a smaller, more compact vibrator that kind of just like focuses on the clit.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So I would say the rose. Yeah, the rose. There's been a couple. I mean, the Rabbit's cool because it's like penetration and clit stimulation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's a cool. You're, like, getting, you know, two forms of stimulation. And a lot of women, like, orgasm different ways. Like some orgasm through penetration, some clit stimulation. Some. Both. Some. None at all. I don't know. But yeah, I think. You know what? I will say the thing about women's toys and not just not to even, like, the rose. I'm like, a guy could use the rose. A guy could use the Rabbit. It's not exclusively for women only. Right. Whereas I think this maybe is exclusively for men.

[B]

This is for men.

[A]

And I would say aesthetically, I'm just, like, less shocked by, like, a cute dildo called the Rabbit with, like, little bunny ears. Like, this is just.

[B]

I think this is such a dude thing. This is the male Gazed thing ever. It's like you sit there like this.

[A]

Yeah. Like, but. And can I ask you, when you're sitting there like that, do you have a post nut clarity? Do you feel at all like. I just. Damn. I just. A roll of paper towels.

[B]

Okay, this is the thing. No, it does not feel like you. A roll of paper towels.

[A]

Does it feel that way? But when you're looking at that, you've just. You've just come. So you're having post nut clarity. You're like, okay, I just blew a nut to, like, Jessica Jenkins and now I have this, like, I have this like a big piece of technology, like, on me. How does that. I just been wondering from a male's perspective.

[B]

Okay, I'll give you the post nut feelings after. Right? It's like, okay, so hand watching video. Great. I would say the worst is like, Fleshlight is whack. Like, Fleshlight I don't find interesting at all.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Right. And like, I got sent a few Fleshlights. Like the pizza slime guys. I tried it once. I'm like, bro, I feel like I'm fucking a can of Arizona iced tea. Like, I love them, but Fleshlight's not for me. Hand. Great. Like, hand. I just know it and I can crank it out and I do my shit. Fantastic. So the worst, Fleshlight, then hand. And then I would say this is better than. Much better than hand.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like, significantly better than hand. You hit the corners. Like having a penis. You just like, when it's like real sex, like, with you. Yeah, right. There's like a tingling sensation when you climax. And at the end you're just like, oh, that's satisfying. That's like human touch. There's something like that. This kind of has 30% of that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But as soon as you finish nutting, you do. You do. Or. It doesn't confuse me at all because I'm like, I'm holding like a Terra drive.

[A]

Yeah. Like, it's kind of. It's giving. It's giving like early. You know, with like, cell phones sometime.

[B]

It was just fall out because you didn't lock it properly. But, like, I didn't lock it properly.

[A]

Like early cell phone brick vibes. Like, I'm sure we'll get like, there. There will be iterations of this that are different. But. And then I have to ask where.

[B]

Yeah, I. I agree. This is like the Gordon Gecko cell phone.

[A]

But it's.

[B]

But the idea is good. Yeah, it's there. It's getting close, and I have to ask.

[A]

I have two Questions. So where is there an option to insert, like, lube?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They send you a bottle of lube.

[A]

With it in the little.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You put it on yourself. You put it on the thing.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's fantastic. And you take out. It's very easy to like, wash with soap and water.

[A]

And then my second question is. So it's called auto blow, and if I could use this myself, I would like. I would like to try it. It's just, like, interesting to me. Does it feel like a blow job or does it feel like sex? Does it feel like penetrative sex?

[B]

Yeah. I will say this. It does not feel like a blow job at all, which is interesting because I've synced it to the job videos. I'm like, that's weird. It feels like sex. And it feels. It feels. Here's the thing. It feels like rough sex.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know when there's just like, rough sex where it's like the. It's not totally hitting the corner, like we've all had sex, where you're just like, all right. This person's kind of just like jamming it. Right. It's kind of like that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So it's never going to be as good as it is with you and I because we, like, we hit the corners.

[A]

We know how to like saying all.

[B]

The right things, you know, like, she.

[A]

Can'T compete with me.

[B]

She can't. Cuz she can just kind of like squeeze and go up and down and things like that.

[A]

But the squeezing is nice. That's a nice touch.

[B]

It's like jackhammer sex.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But it's nice. It's better than the hand.

[A]

She could do a Kegel on you. Just a little.

[B]

A little. Does a light. Does a light keel.

[A]

That's good to know.

[B]

Better than a sock. Better than a hand.

[A]

Is a sock real? Is that a teenage thing?

[B]

No, sometimes you.

[A]

But as an adult.

[B]

Like, as an adult man. No, as a teenager.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Because sometimes it's like you don't know.

[A]

Where to put it. You're, like, embarrassed. You're like, where do I put my knife?

[B]

I think. Yeah. I think the main thing is, is like the tissue is like, crazy. And then like, let's say you don't have a bathroom connected to your bedroom as a kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're like, I got to ruin a pack of socks and then go like, wash my hands.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[B]

Yeah. Then your mom washes your socks and is like, there's some crispy joints in Here.

[A]

It's. Yeah, yeah, that's. I totally get that.

[B]

But is, like, clean. This is incredible.

[A]

Like, and there's, like, a larger version as well.

[B]

There. There's the Vacu Glide. The Vacu Glide doesn't use the latex nylon fleshlight. It uses air. The thing about the Vacu Glide, it feels better, but it's not synced to video yet. So I like. I like this because you could watch video.

[A]

Well, I feel like men, too, are. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I feel more visual or visually stimulated sexually. Like, I think more so than women. It's like, w. Having it sync to something while you're watching it is probably a good experience as a man, instead of just, like, watching porn and using your hand, it's like, now you really do feel like there's, like, a third party.

[B]

Yeah. I would say this. I would never use this with my imagination.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If that makes sense. Like, my. I can sometimes just imagination do shit. Like you. I'm sure you like laying the Ben and just use your imagination. This is purely a cinematic experience thing for me. This, like, watch the video, sync it up. Whoa. It's like when Nighthawk opened in Williamsburg and you could watch a movie and get food.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does this.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

This. This is the dine in theater.

[A]

Okay. I like that.

[B]

But if there could be an innovation for women's toys, what do you think it would be? Like, Would you want to sync the rabbit up to video, or is that, like, way too much?

[A]

Not really. I mean, it's just not something that I am craving. Like, I think men are really interested in these innovations and sex toys, and I don't know if women are. I personally am not. Like, I'm. I'm cool with what we got, and I think it's great and it's satisfying, but there's no. Like, I don't think I would need it to be synced up. Like, I don't think I would want that.

[B]

I was not interested in sex toys for about 15 years. Like, since college. Not interested.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then when we got together, we introduced a few things. It was fun early on, but then, like, once your relationship's serious, it's just kind of, like, funny, like, to not. It's like the toys and whips and all that stuff. Like, it. We became. It became comical to us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, we're way too locked in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then they sent me this, and I was just like, yo, even me, when I saw it, I was like, feel sophomoric. Feels a little Bit like Dooner shit. Yeah, I had no idea. It's sync to video. I'm going to like continue to say it's the syncing the video that's insane to me. And I think there's just like an interest and fascination in technology and there's also some danger to it. Like. Yeah, I do know. I mean like for sure. People are spending so much money on only fans. Imagine when they sync this thing to the only fans.

[A]

What I was gonna say. I mean, I think I love that opportunity for people in porn to have an avenue to make more money doing stuff like this. You can sync your videos. I'm sure you could license your own videos out to this company or you license your own videos out to whoever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or people can pay the Only fans creator to do something like this. Right. But yeah, I think it does. I think there is like a danger in it when I see especially not so much something like this, but when I see things on the Internet. I don't have that much information, but I've seen things where it's like a very lifelike silicone doll and I just. And I've seen discourse. It's not popped up into my mind immediately. Again, I'm like, not in this world. So it's just kind of things that I pass by on the Internet. But like people point out that there is danger to women in these things because there's a huge part of society, young men that don't really treat women like people already. So then you introduce these like silicone dolls that they can do whatever to. And it's like where's the line between like doing whatever you want to do with a silicone sex doll and doing whatever you want to do with women. And I think that's where that gets tricky. But something like this you don't like, this isn't a woman. This is just a tool to pleasure.

[B]

I'm a 43 year old man who has not used sex toys in a long, long, long time. We have a kid, it got sent to us. It did feel like blast from the past. Like I was back in a college dorm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's been funny. But like as I think about it, I'm just like, I think this technology is incredible. And for like younger dudes go off, enjoy. Like there's a time and place in your life where like you should be doing things like this and gooning.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do think that there is a social thing we gotta pay attention to is that there are gonna be people that get hooked on this and Hooked on the videos and cannot separate like a woman's actual identity or even a guy's actual identity because you can sync gay sex to this.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

The avatar that is being used in videos for the machine, when you put your dick into the machine, is different than the human being that's creating that content, so to speak. And I think the machine Auto Blow has me thinking about just this societal problem of like the separation and the parasocial relationship you have with people that's not real. Cause you have a relationship to the content being created, not them. And I think people are gonna get confused.

[A]

Yeah, I think people will get confused. I also think there's an aspect of this where just this is where we're heading as a society. We are becoming more insular and isolated. Everyone is, it's just, that's the direction we're going. Everything is set up that way. Social media, these like, I don't know, the 15 minute cities where like, they're just like, you don't have to leave your two block radius, like your grocery store and your pharmacy are going to be in the building you live in. You're not going to own anything, you're going to pay rent. Like we're all becoming more isolated in that sense. And I think something like this, or just something like a silicone doll is a, is a tool to I guess help people in those situations. Do you know, I mean like this is great if you're an isolated person and you don't have much contact with people in the outside world. But I, and I think that's like where we're heading as a society.

[B]

Yeah. And the thing I'll say about this, the, the founder, Brian, like when I spoke to him, he actually sent me some emails about the dangers of things like this in conjunction with AI, in conjunction with content. I like him because he thinks about it because he is fully aware that the worst version of this is like that Kathryn Bigelow film Strange Days where like people are hooking up snuff films to this. That's bad. Yeah, like that. But I think the issue then isn't like ban the machine. It's the same thing that comes up every generation. People try to hook up to really up parts of our society.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like those things have existed in every version of civilization and it's just this is a new technological vehicle and it's, I think the lesson in all of these films and all of these stories we read is that you have to deal with the sordid parts of Human nature, every single generation in a different new way.

[A]

Absolutely. And I think you have to approach education differently. Like, we should probably be educating young people on things like this, and the safer practices on things like this. Like, this didn't exist in the 90s. So educating kids in the 90s on their sex ed has to look different than our sex ed today. It has to include. Include things like this. And we have to talk about, like, porn. It's pervasive in our culture and in our lives. So I think it's like you're saying there are dangers, but it's really about educating people and teaching them how to use something like this safely and for good.

[B]

Yeah. And not to be corny, but I am a dad. I'm 43, I'm a husband. It's like, it is important to think about these things because when you're young, you just have kinks and you have urges and you're puberty. But I think we have to give society the psychological tools to unpack kinks. Because I think the question is to ask, why are you into something naughty like this that society looks down upon? Right. Like, I remember when that no Effects album, Heavy Petting Zoo, came out as kid. Oh, my God. Beastiality. That's wild. And, like, there's always, like, one kid in every state that's like, fucked a donkey. Right. Like.

[A]

Or show you the video. You know what I mean? Like, we all had that, like, one person we knew that was like, you have to watch the video of the horse, like, fucking the guy. Yeah. And then you're like, I don't know, but I kind of have to watch it now.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, I think we need to just acknowledge this stuff exists.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

Unpack it. And, like, for the people that are into this stuff, unpacking for them, like, yo, you might not actually like this. Something may have happened in your childhood. Or if you do like it, if you. If it's what you like, fine. But, like, be self aware. Be self aware of that.

[A]

I absolutely agree with this. I think, you know, I think sometimes we forget it, but I think the United States is largely still very Puritan, very Christian. And I think people deal with a lot of that guilt that comes with, like, Catholic guilt. Right. Like, you're told all of these things about sex. Well, you're actually told nothing about sex. Don't have it until you're married. So there is a lot of guilt associated and shame associated with the topic. And I think that is really, while we do live in an over sexualized country, it's also very shameful. So it's like sex everywhere, but if you're having it, like you're naughty or bad. And I think even subconsciously, we kind of have all been conditioned with that in this country. But that's why I also think, like, talk to your local sex worker. Like, talk to a stripper if you have a weird kink. Like I.

[B]

And I don't be ashamed. That's the big thing. Don't feel bad.

[A]

I think you just like, talk more open. If people can have a more open conversation about these things, it's just better for everybody.

[B]

I think so much of people's kinks and sexual releases are literally tied to shame. And we know this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I am always like, yo, put the boots on. Like, I love boots, right? I know exactly why I like boots. And it's childhood. My mom, we lived in Northern Virginia. When it was cold or whatever, she would put on boots and go to work. And I was like, whoa, she looks like taller and more powerful. And my mom looks like kind of hot in boots. And one day, my aunt, and I was only like five or six years old, she's like, what'd your mom. Where'd your mom go today? And I was like, I don't know, but I think she's doing something. Cause she put boots on. And my aunt's like, oh, my God, hilarious. And went and told my mom. And my mom was like, wait, are you snitching on me? Like, what do you think I'm doing? I was like, oh, no. I just know that, like, when you put boots on, it seems like a special day. Like you're going to do like you want something, like you're going to do something. And I kind of got in trouble with my mom because she thought I was snitching to her sister. I don't know where she went. And I think that shame and embarrassment of like, oh, my God, I snitched on my mom on accident, mentioning the boots. I like boots. This is it now. It's tied to that one emotion and one singular moment I had as a kid. And it's insane. And I think if people can start to talk about shit like this because we all have it. Yeah, it's going to be a better, less angry, more loving society.

[A]

I agree. I think you do weird shit when you're suppressed. I think it comes out everywhere in your life sexually, not sexually, platonic. It will come out and it will spew into every aspect of your life. If you are suppressed sexually, mentally. If you have shame around something, like, it's just not healthy. It's not good if you keep the poison, you're going to poison yourself.

[B]

Yeah. You got to let it out. You got to laugh at it, and you got to, like, express and enjoy the.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I support all. Like, there's nothing somebody could tell me. And. And this is why I really, like. We speak so openly about sex in our relationship. Sex. We've had sex, we want to have things we like to do things we don't like to do. Like, I feel like the conversation has always been so open, and I've never felt any shame. I hope you've never felt any shame. But I think that it's such a cool part of our relationship.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. I really, like, admire that about us. And I realize sometimes not everyone's like that because we'll start talking about something at a dinner or just something. I'm like, oh, this person is not there. But I hope people could get there.

[B]

No, it's important. Like, we have guests that come on the show, and we start to get horny. They're like, oh, my God, they're getting horny, you know? And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. We're so sex positive. We're so open. And it's made me a happier person because from the moment I met you, you were like, I'm delaying pleasure. And then it took me forever to make a move because I was nervous. I liked you, and you were like, dude, I never thought you were gonna make the move. I was like, ah. You know, and then the first couple times we got after it, like, I wasn't, like, the hardest, you know, and you were cool. You were just sweet about it. And you didn't be like, you need to perform. Because there are some women where, like, you know, like, everyone's had moments where they're nervous or they can't perform. And I've had a couple women that were like, do you not like me? Like, what's this? Like, you don't think I'm hot or what? I'm like, yo, it's. It's not that. This is, like, really complicated. And then I was just like, I'm not into that. I'm not into that kind of feedback. Like, I need to be in a place where I'm just like, we're both having fun. And you were always cool. And that's why when we're in the bedroom now, I have the confidence and I just feel Good about doing whatever we want to do.

[A]

Same.

[B]

Like, we do all kinds of weird. It's fun.

[A]

We do. We also keep a vanilla, too. Vanilla. Vanilla's. Yeah. I feel like there's a range.

[B]

Missionary soak and watch a movie is, like, really cute.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

It doesn't have to be like, you.

[A]

Know what I do like about this, though, And I like, in a way, like, I like that there's kind of this, like, cheeky men's toy that you could, like, send to your friend. Like, it gives me, like, bachelorette vibes when, you know, like, the. The bride is out there. Just, like, there's a little dildos everywhere.

[B]

It is a great gift.

[A]

It's a great gift for, like, I feel like it's. It's a way to connect with your, like, guy friends instead of being like, sports. Like, send an auto blow. Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Like, I would Father's Day.

[A]

Yeah. Like, send this to your homie for his birthday. You don't know what's happening in at home. Send him. Send him this and send him this podcast and be like, talk to your wife.

[B]

It's a fun gag gift. Needs boundaries around it. Needs everything we spoke about. But I got to say, this is. This is the biggest leap in sex toys for men I've ever seen, which is cool.

[A]

I'm happy.

[B]

Fantastic. Shout out Kareem for bringing it up. Shout out Chris for identifying.

[A]

Yes, Chris. Chris.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out. Thank you, Brian Sloan. This is incredible. Incredible.

[A]

Come on, Canal Street Dreams, and use our auto blow.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, Yo.