Best Eats in the U.S., Food Influencers & Breakfast Casserole with West Wilson

Summary

Canal Street Dreams – “Best Eats in the U.S., Food Influencers & Breakfast Casserole” (feat. West Wilson)

Podcast: Canal Street Dreams
Hosts: Eddie Huang, Natashia Perrotti
Guest: West Wilson (Summerhouse)
Date: March 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Canal Street Dreams brings together hosts Eddie Huang and Natashia Perrotti with guest West Wilson from Summerhouse for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation on food, culture, identity in media, and the ins and outs of “making it” in creative industries. The trio dives into the power and pitfalls of being a public-facing creator, the evolution of food storytelling, deep dives into regional eats across America, and the importance of authenticity—along with some highly entertaining asides about sports allegiances, IG dating, breakfast cassserole controversies, and more. Recorded in the thick of New York at Bauhaus, the discussion is equal parts insightful, hilarious, and refreshingly real.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins: Inspiration from Food Shows & Representation

[00:45–04:11]

• West credits Eddie as a major inspiration for his own early food show, describing binge-watching Wong’s World while recovering from a college injury. He shares that Eddie’s realness on-screen shaped his own approach:

  “You were the full muse for everything, swear to God. ...I produced a food show with my homeboy…you were like, the full muse for everything.” (A, 01:23)

• Eddie reflects on breaking the mold of the typical chef or TV host:

  “Just because you have a restaurant and cook food, doesn't mean you need to act like a chef...I don't know how to not be me.” (B, 02:40)

2. Food as a Conduit for Deeper Stories

[03:12–06:39]

• West compares Eddie’s storytelling to Bourdain’s, highlighting how food can lead to conversations about politics, family, and identity.
• Eddie emphasizes that what’s often called “politics” in his work really comes from “a sense of justice,” sharing that being on the ground in different countries helped him witness rising white nationalism and recognize similar patterns back in the U.S.:

  “At that time in 2015, 16, you would look out and be like, oh my God, that country's so much worse.…And then we'd come home and be like, yo, it's kind of similar.” (B, 04:11)

3. Challenges of Speaking Up and Digital Activism

[06:39–12:13]

• Natashia discusses the pressures and pitfalls of the modern expectation that anyone with a platform must speak out:

  “If you're not saying something, you're saying something.” (B, 06:36)
  “The last thing in life I ever want to be is like, an IG infographic reposter. …But there comes a point where I will get on my IG and say: Stop killing children.” (C, 08:09)

• They discuss influencer responsibility, the dangers of uninformed statements, and the divisiveness within political discourse. Eddie critiques left-wing “elitist” tendencies:

  “As soon as somebody becomes like, woke or conscious...it's almost like they're trying to score points amongst their liberal friends by casting other people down.” (B, 11:19)

4. On Identity, Assumptions, and Responsibility

[09:36–13:43]

• West addresses being a white man with progressive politics, and the assumptions people make:

  “So many people…thought you'd be some fucking, like, MAGA dude. And so even just being, like, a contradiction to…that…” (A, 09:36)

• Eddie reflects on the possibility of embodying contradiction—being “an idiot” and still deeply engaged in ethics and critical thought:

  “That’s the point of the show. I present as the idiot that I am…And the issue…I think on the liberal left is that they don’t understand you can be both.” (B, 13:38)

5. Travel: Best States and Eats Across America

[13:50–18:35]

• West lists his U.S. favorites:
  • Montana (“the coolest place ever”)
  • The Southern coast of Oregon: “the most beautiful part of the country”
  • Eastern Tennessee and Western Carolina for mountains and BBQ.
• They riff on travel as parents and the joys/challenges of roadtripping with kids.

6. Sports, Regional Loyalty, and Dating in the Internet Era

[18:35–24:37]

• Spirited exchanges over sports loyalties (Chiefs, Red Sox, Commanders, etc.), with fun sidebars about meeting partners online:

  “I feel like you're gonna…This is how I used to think. Like, meeting your person in real…like, in person…But in a modern era…the universe is going to deliver your person to you, however.” (C, 15:45)

7. Rapid Fire: Regional Food Face-Offs

[34:21–45:33, with highlights continuing]

• Eddie runs West through a “March Madness” of regional foods, forcing him to pit favorites against each other:
  • St. Louis toasted ravioli vs. Kansas City barbecue (“Kansas City barbecue, I… unstoppable. You can’t beat it.” (A, 34:33))
  • Kansas City rib vs. Alabama white BBQ / Nashville hot chicken / Hawaiian loco moco / Philly cheesesteak / New England clam chowder
  • Ultimate winner for West? Buffalo wings. (For full food match-ups, see timestamps in detailed moments.)
• Natashia and Eddie discuss the importance of savoring "bastardized" cuisines—NY Chinese American, Italian American, Tex Mex, etc.—as authentic American food innovations:

  "What America has offered to the world is like these mutated bastardized versions." (B, 60:48)

8. Breakfast Casserole & Midwest vs. East Coast Food Disputes

[42:45–44:43]

• West details his viral breakfast casserole (eggs, hashbrowns, cheese, sausage, etc.) and the culture shock it caused among coastal friends unfamiliar with casseroles.
• Eddie analogizes:

  “For the mouth breathers from the east coast that don't know what a casserole is, it’s a lasagna. Yeah, that’s a lasagna.” (B, 44:27)

9. Food Influencers and the Impact of TikTok on Dining

[54:32–57:05]

• The group laments the saturation of food influencer content, the reservation crisis in New York, and how internet popularity is changing the dining experience:

  “The reservation culture is destroying New York.” (C, 54:59) “We're fighting it here...the reason we don't take reservations is I can...a friend can hit me up and be like, can I come to dinner? I'm like, I got you.” (B, 55:22)

10. International Dream Trips & Reflections on Creative Work

[61:38–65:13]

• The trio talk about dream food destinations (Morocco, Albania, Scandinavia, Patagonia, Brazil, Iran, Montana, Santa Fe, Oregon’s coast).
• Eddie reflects on how focus on “identity” has become “not it”—preferring showing “everybody who’s cool, ’cause it’s not about identity anymore."

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On performing authenticity:

  “I present as the idiot that I am because I’m comfortable being that idiot. And then idiots are opened up to ideas…Because, like, I'm a weirdo too. I’m an idiot that also reads court cases for fun. And, like, it’s okay, you can be both.” (Eddie, 13:38)

• On influencer responsibility:

  “When Natasha starts to…percolate and get upset about something, and it’s like in our group chats and DMs, I’m like, okay, this is starting to hit people in the heart." (Eddie, 07:49)

• On social media activism:

  “The last thing in life I ever want to be is like, an IG infographic, like, reposter…but I will get on my Instagram story and be like, stop killing children.” (Natashia, 08:09)

• On reservation culture destroying NYC food scene:

  “Now you have to have a reservation to get, like, a cup of coffee.” (Natashia, 55:11)

• On casserole culture shock:

  “The cast didn’t know what a casserole was. And they’re like, what is this?” (West, 43:21)

• On parenting & generational changes:

  “My parents had me at 24. And I’m just like, no way…in the modern world, though, I had her son at 29, and I was like, I might as well be 16.” (Natashia & West, 19:10–19:44)

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Notable Timestamps and Highlights

• Eddie’s video inspiration & food as a vehicle for identity: [00:47–04:11]
• On expectations for influencers to speak out: [06:39–09:36]
• Eddie’s “idiot” persona explanation: [13:38]
• State travel favorites & regional food recs: [13:50–15:06, 34:21–45:33]
• Sports allegiances, Chiefs & Red Sox stories: [18:35–25:44]
• Parenting as creatives—timing, “empty nesting” perks: [19:44–22:06]
• Breakfast casserole culture shock & recipe: [42:45–44:43]
• Candid sexual/relationship asides: [33:25–34:27]
• Food influencer saturation & TikTok criticism: [54:32–57:05]
• Dream destinations: [61:38–64:27]
• Reflection on identity politics fatigue: [64:27–65:13]

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The Hosts’ & Guest’s Restaurant/NYC Food Shout-outs

• Noodle Town (Eddie’s all-time favorite Chinese in NYC)
• Lugers
• Rao’s
• Minetta Tavern
• Balato’s
• Chrissy’s Pizza (Greenpoint)
• Midtown neighborhood slices (Zillions, etc.)
• Goes Awall (Murray Hill)
• Gem Saloon
• Los Tacos

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode sustains a loose, comedic, and brutally honest vibe—equal parts intellectual, off-color, and heart-on-sleeve. Whether discussing politics, food culture, or bedroom preferences, Eddie, Natashia, and West riff off each other with the easy rapport of friends and deep-dish enthusiasts, making this a must-listen for anyone interested in creative (and culinary) life in contemporary America.

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For New Listeners

If you’re looking for a deep, unpretentious look at food, identity, and what it means to “keep it real” in a hypermediated world, this episode of Canal Street Dreams is for you. The conversation is peppered with personal stories, candid social commentary, and a healthy dose of humor—plus, you’ll never see breakfast casseroles or regional barbecue the same way again.

Transcript

[A]

All right.

[B]

Yo, welcome back, Canal Street Dreams. There's a real celebrity on the fucking street today. On st. Mark's, between 1st and A. Outside of Bauhaus, we got W.W. west Wilson from Summerhouse, My guy.

[A]

Thanks, guys.

[B]

Welcome. Welcome to the pod.

[A]

We'll do one of these.

[B]

We broke out the Roseanne Sig, so you guys have a drink.

[C]

Cheers. Cheers.

[B]

Cheers proper.

[A]

I've had a drink the last eight days in a row, and today I was like, maybe I don't. I have alcohol today.

[B]

No, we need it.

[A]

It's before noon.

[B]

Yeah. So it's the weather. We're getting juicy. Rose is not even really alcohol.

[A]

No, that's true. When the sun's out, it's not.

[B]

No, this is like Capri sun for adults.

[A]

Yeah. Damn. Yeah, I kind of want to, like, just hop into it if it's not even my podcast.

[B]

This is your podcast. You're the center.

[A]

I've. I've wanted to say this forever to you. So when I was in college, I've always been. I've always been, like, kind of a video. Like, when I was a kid, I, like, would take my mom's home video camera and, like, put my ipod to it to, like, overlay music. Like, I always thought I, like, had an eye for it, but then got to college, didn't know what I was going to do. Broke my leg junior year. So I binge, like, more TV than I ever could. Already knew who Bourdain was. Already knew. Like, I kind of. I kind of fucked with guy.

[B]

Yeah, we fuck with guys so hard, guys.

[A]

And then I stumbled on also. Make sure I say it, Wong.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to be like, stumble on Wong's world, binge the whole thing. Truly, truly fell in love with it and was like, dude, so inspired. Just because you're also, like, a homie, too, you know? And the first year I moved to New York, I produced a food show with my homeboy. And you were, like, the full muse for everything, swear to God. Yeah, I just showed. It was called Napkin. Like, it. It didn't, like, go anywhere. It was like, just something like a side project to kind of, like, eventually pitch one day. But we hired a dude off Craigslist who's a trans porn videographer. Dude. And we just. And why? And we got it cracking, then kind of just climb the ladder. But, like, again, like, I. It's cool to finally meet you because I.

[B]

Funny enough, I loved it. First paid video gig ever was shooting the groupie Love to porno for Tony Yale and 50 cents. So.

[A]

Wow, that's dope.

[C]

Everybody gets a bro.

[B]

That means a lot. That means a lot.

[A]

I told my mom about you in college. I was like, I want you to watch this show that I've been ripping. Like, I also have kind of gotten into politics a little bit recently in the way you can still intertwine. Like, you talk politics, but also you still, like, it's a show for the boy. It's not a show for the boys.

[B]

But, like, I think it is.

[A]

It reads that you're just like a homie. And I, like, I just loved it. Yeah.

[B]

I think the thing that I did in life generally was, like, even though I have a restaurant and I cook food, doesn't mean I need to act like a chef. I don't eat like the side of a pig on my shoulder. Just cause, like, I, you know, have a food show doesn't mean I need to be like, a presenter, you know? And I think that translated to homies, like us men or women were just like, yo, I don't know how to not be me. Yeah. And I think that as a unknown, it means a lot that other younger homies were like, yo, you're real.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, this. This. This feels like, real to me.

[A]

Well, I think similar to also Bourdain. You can tell me if I'm wrong, but, like, you use food as, like, the vehicle to tell a zillion other different stories. And that's kind of what I always thought was important because I'm not a chef, but I knew food is a very communal vehicle that everyone can use. But then, like, you would get into politics and family and history and all of that, and I just, like, it's so perfect.

[B]

Yeah. And like, you. You're saying, like, yo, I'm into politics. For me, I. If I. I guess quantit, like, I guess, like, I definitely was into politics. But what got me into those conversations.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just like a sense of justice. Yeah. You know, like, right and wrong. And to me, that may not even be politics. I think that's just like, being a good person.

[A]

No, I agree.

[B]

I would travel around the world and see something up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, that feels wrong, bro. And end up in, like, Sicilian jail, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Do you feel like the. The DC episode was ahead of its time kind of, or just like the conversation that you're having?

[B]

I think the DC episode, the Sicily episode were ahead of its time in that because we were on the ground around the world, we were seeing these like, white nationalist movements popping up. And we were able to link them together from, like, Sicily to, like, the. The people that were throwing tear gas at the gay pride parade in Istanbul. And then coming back around to America, it was interesting because at that time in 2015, 16 in America, still, you would look out and be like, oh, my God, that country's so much worse. They treat women so much worse than us. Yeah. They treat gay people worse. And then we'd come home and be like, yo, it's kind of similar. You're seeing similar things pop up. And then that almost like, viral disease came home here. Yeah. And we were seeing it in D.C. at the inauguration.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was just very heartbreaking. And it sucks that 10 years later it's worse.

[A]

It's worse, right?

[B]

It's completely worse.

[A]

It's worse.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I kind of just. I lightly dipped my toes and I agree, like, it's. It shouldn't be politics, but obviously now it's like, it's just. Is what it is. And then the more. The more hate I read or, like, received kind of reaffirmed to me that I knew where I stood and, like, what I believed in and was, like, doing the right thing. And so it's almost like the more I speak up or talk, the. The people who contradicted or disagree, like, makes me feel more confident in, like, what I'm doing, if that makes sense. And so I think those conversations, obviously mine aren't on a show. It's more like DMs and shit like that. But, yeah, I just. Not to bring it back to the show, but, like, I like the way you can still. You had conversations. I mean, I just think of that fucking white dude in that restaurant.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And that has resurfaced. It is just so relevant right now more than ever. I think it's.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It almost feels political to not be involved in politics in any way now. Like, that in and of itself is a choice, especially if you have a platform. Especially if you're somebody who maybe anybody is looking to for, like, any type of advice at all. Yeah, it's like a little bit. I don't know. I just think that it's just so important to speak up about it now more than ever, because it is such, like. I mean, people are in danger.

[B]

Like, truly, if you're not saying something, you're saying something. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know, I was going to say, where do you stand with, like, some people like, you just. I see TikToks and Instagram stuff all the time about People being like, every influencer, every famous person, like, has to speak up. Do you think that then it would kind of dilute, like, people who actually care?

[C]

I think that's super tricky because I think that when somebody is maybe not super informed, like, handing them the mic to say something totally might cause more harm. But I do think it's important for people to just be like, hey, this is where I stand. I might not know everything, I'm still learning, but, like, I don't support this. I support women. I support these causes. Or I don't support this because I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think it's just tricky because at the same time, too, like, you are diluting people's voices who, like, I think a lot of people look to you for your opinions and what you have to say and on your substack. And there are so many strong, really just, like, informed and intelligent people. But I think it's cool. Even the people that like myself, I'm not the most informed person, but I'm always going to be like, yeah, I don't support that.

[B]

No, you're my barometer, though, because, like, you know, I. I read the news every day. But when it get. When Natasha starts to, like, percolate and get upset about something, and it's like in our group chats and DMs, I'm like, okay, this is, like, starting to hit people in the heart. Yeah. You know, at an emotional level. Because, like, Natasha, I wouldn't say follows politics, but follows human issues.

[C]

Yes. And I would say the last thing in life I ever want to be is like, an IG infographic, like, reposter.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I just think that that's so corny, but, like, it gets to a point where I will get on my Instagram story and be like, that. Stop killing children. Yeah. Okay. Like, we all have to just, like, say something at some point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, it's tricky not to hop into it.

[A]

So.

[B]

So how do you feel, though? Because, you know, you know who I really like is. I believe his name is Andrew. All gas, no brakes, homie. Andrew. Right. Like, I think he has, like, Channel 5 Andrew Callahan. Like, he, I think is one of my favorite reporters because, you know, the way he dresses and the way he moves is like, it's just like my dirtbag skater homies or stoner homies. But he's so smart and he's not afraid to ask, like, the tough questions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he's kind of, to me, like the American Louis Theroux right now. Yeah. And the guys that I really, like, were always Tony Louis Theroux, and then Andrew now. And I feel like if you do it, like, because I think the sad thing about issues and politics is at the end of the day, I think lowest common denominator, people listen to people that look like them.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They listen to people that dress like them, look like them. And your aesthetic thinking, fly. You're on bravo. Because your consciousness is different and, like, out of the box for like, what, perhaps people aesthetically gravitate towards you for.

[A]

Yeah, it's ill. No. Well, I've. I've kind of always thought I. I do have a. My responsibility comes from being a white dude from Missouri whose dad is like, a cowboy. And like so many people, I. I mean, just when I do say stuff, people like, oh, we for sure thought you'd be some fucking, like, like, MAGA dude. And so even just being, like, a contradiction to, I guess, like, the way. I mean, I don't really dress maga, but, like, I. I am a white guy.

[C]

So many ways, though, like, being a white person now is kind of like, wearing this, like, patch of, like, assumption of, oh, that dude's probably maga. I get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it be valid to be like, country strength.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I remember the first time I heard that scouting report was like, when the reds, the commanders, were drafting Ryan Carrigan and they were like, country strength. And I was like, that is such a racially coded way to describe something.

[A]

Well, that's every. Every. Yeah, there's white moisture all. There's so many sports references that are, like, the same way, but actually kind of what you're saying about, like, giving people a mic that, like, maybe aren't informed or whatever. Like, you feel strongly about certain topics but don't feel informed on everything. I would argue and, like, I wish the Democratic Party or, like, liberal people would lighten up a little bit in that sense where people felt more comfortable saying, I don't know, X or like, I'm. I'm working my way there, but I'm not all the way to, like, your level yet. And I think so many people have been kind of cut down for just, like, trying to get there. And so I think that's a huge part of the, like, distance that we need to go to get people there is, like, give people space to learn. And I don't think that necessarily exists perfectly in this moment.

[B]

I totally agree. I think there is a lot, like, when people in the center or on the right complain about the left and liberals woke people being like, elitist yeah. And like, you know, I do agree it's very elitist because it's almost like as soon as somebody becomes like woke or conscious, reads the news and is on the left, it's almost like they're trying to score points amongst their liberal friends by casting other people down. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, no, totally, yeah, totally agree.

[B]

And I'm like, if this is like a tough membership club to get into, we're not going to win. We're in a democracy. You need more people, not less people, you goofs. Correct. So I think people like you getting into people like me, like, yeah, I don't look like a, you know, cat lady with an mfa, you know, like, I got very left leaning views, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I have three felonies. But like, very liberal, you know, very conscious.

[A]

Yeah. And like again, we don't talk about this the whole time and I kind of just took it over from the jump. But like, yeah, like the DC episode was so cool for me because I was like, this guy is like, the episode wasn't about like, I'm liberal. These are fucking conservative white nationalists. It was still about like it opens up with that cool, that diner where you're like getting fucking pancakes or whatever and it's just a part of life. And you can have those conversations, but it doesn't need to be your full 247 identity. And like that I found to be like super dope.

[B]

I'll put a button on this. The New York Times, which I love and I read a lot, I love it a lot less the last two years, but I remember when they reviewed Wong's World, I believe it was a writer named Wesley Yang who I really respect. He was like, yo, Eddie wanders through Wong's World like a pot addled numb skull and then arises out of the stupidity. And it was, it was like partially critique but partially observation. And people would always on the left hammer me for like, why do you act like an idiot? Why are you telling like off color jokes? And I was like, no, that's the point of the show. Yeah, I present as the idiot that I am because I'm comfortable being that idiot. And then idiots then are opened up to ideas that they may not be into because, like, I'm a weirdo too. I'm an idiot that also reads court cases for fun. Like, I read them for fun. And like, it's okay, you can be both. And the issue, I think on the liberal left is that they don't understand you can be both.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like we can Be us and we can still know what the difference between right and wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right? Yeah. Like, so that. That's. That. The other thing we wanted to ask you about, too, is, like, you've. You've gone to all 50 states.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Any favorites, dog?

[A]

Any favorites? Okay. But, like, counting out states I've lived in, because I think super biased towards those, actually. Fuck it. Montana is, like, the coolest place ever.

[B]

Montana's beautiful. Montana's still Jackson. I mean, there's a reason he chose it.

[A]

Yeah. I would say, geographically speaking, the southern coast of Oregon is, like, the most beautiful part of the country. Like, so sick. If you can do, like, a west coast highway, little road trip for however much you want to do, I highly suggest it's just green as fuck. The highway is, like, on the beach.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you're kind of elevated because it's

[B]

still a little mountainous, like Willamette kind of area.

[A]

Yeah. And then you get those big fucking, like, rocks that are in the. Like, on the beach. So you still get terrain almost like, going out into the. It's just, like, really beautiful and cool. And then eastern Tennessee, Western Carolina is fucking sick because you get Appalachian mountains, so you get, like, mountain vibes, but, like, Southern hospitality. And it's, like, nice in the fall and, like, the trees grow because it's not, like, so elevated that, like, there's no trees.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That part of the country is dope. So, like, Asheville, North Carolina. Chattanooga.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tennessee. That part really rips.

[B]

Yeah. You get some vinegar barbecue, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That's what's up. Yeah.

[A]

We could talk barbecue as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Also, where are you from? I wanted to get Boston. From Boston.

[C]

Yes. Born and raised.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And how'd you two meet?

[C]

Raya.

[B]

We're hosts.

[C]

Our son has a Raya baby blanket from the CEO with his name.

[B]

Shout out. Daniel Gedney.

[C]

Sometimes I, like, wrap him up in it, and I'm just like, this is

[B]

foul, you Internet hoes.

[A]

No, that's better than. I mean, someone could have an Instagram blanket for their kid.

[C]

No, for sure.

[A]

Instagram inbox.

[B]

I mean, you could meet your girl on a Bravo show.

[C]

Yeah, you could. You know, I feel like you're gonna. This is how I used to think. Like, meeting your per. Your person in real. Like, in person was just like, if it wasn't that, it wasn't real. But I think that now, in a modern era, it's like the universe is going to deliver your person to you, however, by whatever means necessary, because Internet

[A]

is a big part of everyone's lives. Well, I mean, it's like, like, fully.

[B]

Do you Internet. Are you on apps?

[A]

I. I got off them, like, three years ago when I first moved to New York. Dude, I was ripping him.

[B]

Smashing. Yeah.

[A]

I might have, like, paid for the extra likes in a day once or twice. Because you know how they leave you

[C]

with, like, the men?

[A]

They cut you off.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, they do.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Cliffhanger.

[A]

Yeah, Cliffhanger Smart.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They're like, we're gonna. You have to get to all the bad wall.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know.

[B]

No, they're like, we'll show you the

[C]

baddies once you pay 6.99.

[B]

Yeah. Now it's just Instagram. Like, I don't know, but she told me. This is information Natasha gave me.

[C]

I think that Instagram is the dating app. I think it has been for a long time.

[A]

Absolutely. Well, it's like a little scrapbook of your life. Like, I think the other thing you can do, like, I'm. I don't support blindly DMing chicks or, like, pickup lines or whatever. However, if someone does anything that you can share something in common with them. If they're in your, like, they're in your home state, send them a food wreck or, like, little things or sharing, like a commonality. That's how you pull up.

[B]

Yeah, I did. You know how I pulled up on her? We matched on raya and I DM'd her damn mob spicy penne Arabiato because she had a photo in the kitchen with a knife. And I was just like, yo, you spicy pen Arabiato and it.

[A]

And look at us now.

[C]

Yeah, look at us now. We have a kid. We're out of our restaurant.

[B]

It because, like, you vaguely Mediterranean and spicy. I'm gonna just shout out a dish you remind me of.

[C]

I feel like some people have a song. They're like, that's our song. Like, that's our. That's our dish.

[B]

That's our dish that's on a menu.

[C]

I'm like, we have to get it.

[A]

Yeah, that's how you go play and share. Or you boat you double.

[C]

No, we share.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're so lady in the Tramp. We're so corny, bro. Make out over a plate of pasta.

[A]

Obsessed. Yeah, the 50 states thing. Have you. What are. What are you at? What's your number?

[B]

I'm less than you. I have not gone all 50, but I've, you know, I have been to Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida. I mean, I've gone all up the east coast except Maine. I'VE not been to Maine. Have not been to Vermont.

[C]

I didn't know you've never been to Maine.

[B]

Have not been in New Hampshire.

[C]

We should go this summer.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's really beautiful.

[A]

The best way to do it. You're have to road trip. Shit.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because, like, there's no.

[C]

I think we should. While Senna is a good age. Like when he's three or four, before we have another kid. Yeah, we do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, that'll be fun for him.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm happy to knock you up again.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

I'm happy. I'm happy to do. I enjoyed it the first time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's do it.

[B]

Yeah. Do you mind if I asked how old you are?

[A]

31 now a word.

[B]

You're just. You're just getting into like, you're, you know. Yeah. You're really. You're really coughing season of life, you know?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I guess I was kind of like your 20s. You. I feel like you can still be. You feel like a kid. Kind of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now I got to kind of buckle up, I guess.

[B]

But I had no idea what I was doing until I was 36.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

Like, seriously, my parents, dude.

[A]

Had me at 24. And I'm just like, no way.

[C]

That was a different world.

[A]

Hold this off.

[C]

That was a different world.

[A]

They're in Missouri and like, both very linear careers. And like, I get it.

[B]

But my mom had me in college. Yeah. She was like. Had just turned 21. Literally.

[C]

In the modern world, though, I had her son at 29. And I was like, I might as well be 16. Like, I might as well be like a teen bride. Like, teen mom. Because 29 now, it's like, oh, all my peers having kids at the same time as me were in their late 30s, 40s.

[A]

The one thing that's nice, though, is. And my mom has said this is like, she has friends who are still, like, parenting. Their kids are in high school, college or whatever, and they've been. They've been empty nesting now for like a minute. And they're like, it's so dope enjoying our late 40s and 50s with you guys. And like, obviously not in a. In a rude way. They just are. They're vibing, dude.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, no.

[B]

Cuz you're still horny in your 40s.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I like, like, I thought I was a teen mom. And the only thing that I wish that I did differently in life is, like, had kids in my early 20s. Oh, I just think you have. I mean, there's so many ways. Like, people always say your life ends when you have a kid. I absolutely disagree with that. I think.

[A]

Can't say that.

[C]

No, but people say that, like, people will be like, oh, my God. Yeah, your life. Like, you can't do anything fun. You can't travel, you can't do this, you can't do that. Like, you can do all of the things. Just be a responsible adult and, like, plan. But also you have so much more energy. And I think just the more time you have young with your kids and then like, being an empty nester and like, I imagine it in the way that I'm like, oh, my God, when my kid is 18 and I'm this age and we go travel in Europe,

[B]

that's going to be so, so sick.

[C]

When we're. He's an adult and we're still, like, able to, like, go get drinks with him. Like, imagine us with like, Senna, like, Scorpios and Mykonos, just, like, partying on the table. That's what I want.

[A]

No. And not to bring my parents back into this, but they've done all 50 together.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

So they ripped it like. Like, we traveled so much as. And it was so important to my dad that they did. We always went somewhere new. And like, they were. They made it fun.

[B]

I know you doing it with your kid, I feel you're gonna be a good dad. You're funny. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, I don't say it often because I don't have many friends that I'm like, you'd be a good dad. Yeah, you would be a good dad because you're fun. Like, even me, like, look, I. I'll speak for myself. I. I faced boy allegations for a period of my life.

[A]

Yeah, it's okay.

[B]

And like, yo, I feel I'm a fun dad.

[C]

You're a fun dad.

[B]

Like, Senna loves me, you know? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I almost wore a jersey today too, but I was like, what if Eddie's wearing one and then we're doubled.

[B]

Yeah. There's a like, 75% chance I'm wearing a football jersey. Yeah. This One is from 1997. Like, rookie year.

[A]

Real?

[B]

Yeah. That's.

[A]

That's sick.

[B]

Yeah, See, I understand Hermes thing because, like, I would never buy the replica jerseys. I always bought the authentic. And dudes were like, why are you spending 250? I was like, yo, it's going to be with me my whole life. This Jersey is from 1997.

[C]

Here's the thing, guys. Buy it Nice. Or it twice.

[B]

Fair.

[C]

Just spend a little bit extra. Buy it once.

[B]

Yeah. Are you a Rams fan or.

[A]

I'm all Kansas City Chiefs.

[B]

Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

[A]

Yeah. Went to my first game at Arrowhead when I was like three or four with my dad and like there's just no looking back. Really. It's crazy though.

[B]

Derek Thomas.

[A]

Derek Thomas. Derek Thomas was like I was alive but no memories. I was more like Priest Holmes, Dante Hall. Oh, do you remember those dudes?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, Tony.

[A]

Tony Gonzalez. Yeah, yeah, of course. Those type of guys. But it's crazy now being the fan of a team where people like I can visually see people get turned off when I say I'm a Chiefs fan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because my whole life that was, that was home for me and like it didn't mean anything to people.

[B]

Yeah. It's just because of Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce.

[A]

No, I agree.

[B]

I mean because there were years where you guys stunk but had led. You did have like the best back to back backs. Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson and then like to back. Yeah. Jamal Charles was after back to back 2000 yard back. I love that. Natasha just clocked out and started drinking. These dudes are talking about sports ball.

[C]

So what bag am I going to get next?

[A]

No, but it's crazy to see.

[B]

Oh, would you.

[C]

Thank you, dude.

[A]

Yeah. Guys.

[B]

Yes. Yes. Let's order. Imagine I came here, GM is here. Alex.

[A]

What up, brother West. Good to meet you, man. I mean I'll. Can I just let you fucking.

[B]

Yes. You know what, Let it fly. Let's. Let's do this. Do you eat all meats? Do you have any? Okay, let's do brisket for him. He's like a Kansas City guy. Let's do the brisket bowl, let's do the contractor noodles and let's do the mumbo bird.

[C]

Fuck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My man. Love it, love it.

[A]

That fires me.

[B]

Fed on this show.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I kind of. Yeah, this was a no brainer.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

A no brainer.

[B]

Of course. But no, we were saying sports, we were talking sports, saying it's crazy that.

[A]

So to me, Kansas City. Used to. I mean, Kansas City, that's for lack of better terminology. Like their biggest export is like the Chiefs, you know? Yeah. And I used to. If you saw chief's hat in the airport or whatever, like I knew that that was someone from the crib.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But now like that part's a little like washed out. Which makes me sad. But I was gonna say not just the Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey thing. But people do get tired of people who fucking win.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, the ref narrative. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, growing up in Boston, I'm not, like, a fan of sports, but definitely just, like, it would be. We just won so much, and everybody was like, fudge, you guys. It's like, sorry, we win.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All the time.

[A]

So I feel that way.

[B]

Boston, the Red Sox. I only like the Red Sox. I love losers.

[C]

Yeah, but they.

[A]

That's tight.

[B]

Yeah. Like, the rules are tight. Yeah. Like, yo, Granky's from my neighborhood, Orlando, and his uncle was our P.E. coach.

[A]

Yeah. You know, he's one of the weirdest dudes to ever play sports.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They said he, like, would, like. He's just the weirdest guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's crazy.

[C]

He.

[B]

He. I liked him, though. He was kind of like a bootleg. Pedro Martinez, who's a lot of arm angles.

[A]

Can I tell you my, like, since college. Sports. My claim to fame athletically. Home run off Pedro Martinez in the celebs. MLB celebs.

[B]

Stop you.

[A]

Did you. That's underhand softball. But, like, still is.

[B]

Page off a PD is crazy.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I even think that's crazy.

[B]

Is my favorite baseball player of all time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It was inside the Parker, so it's less cool. But still.

[B]

But no, that's kind of cooler, bro. You inside the park. Yeah. Our coaching four or five.

[A]

Our coach was Dion. It was a fun. That was a fun, like, thing to do.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

If you ever get the chance.

[B]

That's so nasty.

[A]

That one's tight.

[B]

Wow. Pedro Horns is great. Like, in my opinion, greatest Red Sox pitcher all time. People, people. You know, they had Babe Ruth, but, like, I think Petey.

[C]

Yeah. But that was, like, such a different era. Like, I feel like the ath. You can't even compare athletes from those two different eras. Right? Like, it's just a different, you know, ball.

[A]

You're pretending to, like, not know ball earlier, and you're, like, so dialed.

[C]

Like, he. He indulges me in my, like, leather goods, so I indul his, like, leather balls.

[A]

Okay, cool. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Okay, cool. Like, I get it.

[A]

Born in Orlando, born in D.C. born

[B]

D.C. 10 years, and then Orlando for, like, 11 years.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then New York from, like, 2004 till now.

[A]

So do you. Are you, like, Wizards and Gnats, too, or.

[B]

No, no, I'm just Commanders.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because.

[A]

Yeah, Commanders.

[B]

Yo, Commanders. Shout out to Commanders. And then I'm Knicks because I was a Patrick Ewing, Georgetown fan, so I follow Patrick to the Knicks. So It's Knicks, it's Commanders. And then I like the Red Sox because of goodwill hunting. I can't even front.

[A]

You let Matt Damon and Ben Affleck turn you to Red Sox?

[B]

Yes. And it's funny enough also because Johnny Damon went to my high school and Veritex from the neighborhood. So it's like the Orlando, like I would follow hometown guys and then they became my team.

[C]

But Orlando and Boston are not dissimilar in any way. Like I think Orlando in like, I don't know, I just think like Florida and Boston have so many.

[B]

It's similar because Boston is family, because of colleges, it's collegiate. But then junkie.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And Orlando's family because of the tourist business. But junkie. Yeah, we're doing the same drugs. Cities are tied by Oxy.

[C]

Yes, I would agree.

[A]

But Orlando has a fraction of the history that Boston has.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

But the caliber of person you're gonna encounter, I guess I would take it away from anybody that' like in academia. But if you're just like in Southy, I mean it's changed now. But I do, there is some parallels having been to both. I feel it, I see it. When I meet somebody from Orlando, I'm like, we're the same.

[B]

Oh really?

[C]

Yeah, because it's a little trashy and it's like a harder city and like it's just like a lot of culture.

[A]

Didn't you quit your ep, your Orlando episode or like walk out of something?

[B]

Oh yeah, the sausage Castle. Yeah, I left because the guy was so whack. He was so whack to people.

[C]

He was a weirdo.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That was the wor. That was the worst experience.

[A]

I I as again, someone who loyally watched all of them a few times that I, that one sticks out. Cuz I remember you like essentially canceling the whole bit.

[B]

Yeah. I was just like this isn't funny or cool. Cuz Vice, the thing was they were just such edge lords that they had no sense of moral justice.

[A]

Did you, did you, were you a part of the Vice documentary or whatever?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I directed it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were okay.

[B]

Yeah. So that was cool.

[A]

I, I, when I first moved to New York, there were like I could give you probably like four or five companies that I was like, these would be like end goals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Bleacher Report, Complex regret. Regretfully, probably like barstool at the time.

[B]

Respect. Respect. That you can say that.

[A]

Respect. And, and Vice, mostly because of your show. But I just thought Vice was like so edgy and then as time moved on, everyone was like, this company is a fucking, like, dumpster fire.

[B]

I really loved the people that worked at Vice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The stuff we were doing, the leadership just rotted. And they started off cool. That was the thing. It's just once money comes in, there's so much money to be made. Very few people can just be like, nah, it's not worth it.

[A]

There was a dude at BR who, I swear came from. From Vice. Is there a dude named Julian Patterson who worked at Vice? He might have been complex.

[B]

Fuck. I know. I mean, Vice was so big. I only know the kind of guys from 10th and 11th street over there.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

That was, like, the North 10th, North 11th street era. I can't remember which street it was at this point, but it was north 10th worth 11. And then once it went to Kent and it was like, the huge factory. I couldn't remember people anymore. Yeah.

[A]

Also, I'm still. But, like, I gotta send this to my.

[B]

Please.

[A]

It just looks so good, guys.

[B]

And then you write. You. You still write a complex.

[A]

Yeah, I. I haven't written anything. It's been a minute. Yeah, I'll still produce. So, like, I'll do interviews. We're trying to get a show off the ground right now, but I would

[B]

say I'll put an idea in your head.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think we should do a sports gambling show.

[C]

I would love that.

[A]

Oh, I. That might be.

[B]

I'm a degenerate.

[C]

See?

[A]

Okay. I lived in Las Vegas for one year.

[B]

Yeah. I.

[A]

My first.

[B]

Or, like, just fantasy football.

[A]

My. I'm like, okay. I don't want this to come between us.

[B]

Work as a football purist. Oh, you don't play.

[A]

I am, like, so anti fantasy football.

[B]

I feel you. Because I never have watched games the same since.

[A]

No, I know. I know what I've seen happen to all my family and my friends.

[B]

He just can't stay away the other

[C]

day, and he was like, I'm done. Like, I can't do this anymore. I just, like, don't enjoy it when I'm parlaying the shit out of a game.

[A]

Well, I just will have friends that I'm like, have been Chiefs fans their whole life, and they're like, like, hope the Chiefs win, but, like. Like, Amari Cooper's on my fantasy team. Like, hope he has a good game.

[B]

The reason I want to do the show is so I can say I think this is gonna happen and not gamble anymore, because I don't want to gamble.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You want to, like, validate Yourself

[B]

for, like, little Eddie, you know, I need to let people know I knew what was gonna happen. Yeah.

[A]

You know, this is gorgeous.

[B]

Yo, this is our contractor noodles.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm gonna give you sticks. Yep. And then this is just going. Yeah, go in, go in, go in.

[A]

Styling.

[B]

Yeah. Family style.

[A]

Are your recipes all you, or does it. Are they fancy?

[B]

Yeah. So this dish is cool. I found this dish in Chengdu, Sichuan, when I went to a construction site. Like, my homie had to go do some work on a construction site. And across the street, there was just mad people walking into a subterranean restaurant like this. And there was three ladies making noodles with mad peppers and pickles and just stir fried pork. And I was like, that's incredible. So this is my version of the contractor noodles, love.

[A]

Oh, wait, that's beautiful.

[B]

This is a DC sauce. So this is our birdhouse bao with a mumbo sauce, which is, like, native to D.C. migrated from Chicago.

[A]

Does D.C. have a food identity in your opinion?

[B]

Well, mumbo sauce is a big thing. The chili half smoke is a big thing from Ben's Chili Bowl. But otherwise, I would say Southeast D.C. has its stuff. Right. But otherwise, no, I, I would say those two items are the ones that stick out to me. But also, like, people could feel free to disagree. I mean, like, there's Eden center in Northern Virginia. That's like, the hub of Vietnamese food. There are a lot of, like, ill communities doing good food there. Yeah. I don't know if I'm. I, I, I'm in D.C. enough these days to say, but, like, the, the things that stick out are mambo sauce half smoke, Eden centered in me. They do have the best pecking duck in America, too.

[C]

I was going to say that spot for pecking duck.

[B]

Yeah. There's randomly really good food in D.C.

[A]

well, I, like, obviously, I'm sure a lot of people on the east Coast. I mean, most people think Kansas City's in Kansas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I. Missouri is a state like the barbecue scene, massive food profile. And like, oh, such a night, bro.

[B]

You know, we. We should just do this now because I have the rapid fire for you. I'm way into St. Louis and Kansas City food, so I have a rapid fire for you.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Yeah. The fried mumbo bow.

[C]

I was like, he's gonna. I'm gonna be fat this summer. Like, the next time everyone sees me, I'm gonna be like, oh, I love it.

[B]

Because you, like, you get it in the right spot.

[C]

Yeah. I'm just gonna thick out this summer.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna be Eating it from the back while I'm eating it. While I'm eating it all summer. Yeah, you did do that. Yo. That was the illest move she made once I was eating it from the back and then she ate food off a plate on the coffee table.

[C]

I did.

[A]

I was like sexual adventures on the pod.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

We're not like. Yeah, we're very open about all of the stuff.

[B]

Cuz we're not weirdos either. We just like. I just like, like the taste of her foot. Yeah.

[C]

You know, I'm.

[A]

I. I'm not anti foot, but I'm also. I never. It just never that part of my.

[C]

I think. I think when you really like somebody, you want to put their foot in your mouth.

[B]

Yeah. One day you're going to text me one day in like three to five years and be like, yo, Eddie, I love this girl's foot.

[A]

I'm not. I put feet in my mouth. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I also think.

[B]

Do you mind helping us get a napkin for. Sorry.

[C]

We have a napkin.

[B]

Oh, you have.

[C]

Oh, no, my bad.

[B]

We have it. We have it.

[A]

We're straight. I'm trying to keep the mic clothes.

[B]

Yo. I love it. This is fire. Rapid fire. Regional. Regional food. 50 states rapid fire. St. Louis style toasted ravioli or Kansas City barbecue rib.

[A]

Kansas City barbecue. I T RAVs in St. Louis are a big deal and they're. Yeah, they're good. And that's a fun. It's cute. It's a fun dish to like, own.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But Kansas City barbecue, did I like unstoppable. You can't beat it.

[B]

Unstoppable. It is my favorite rib.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Kansas City barbecue rib or Alabama white barbecue?

[A]

I like Alabama white barbecue. Like, it's, it's fun in theory, but KC still kc There was a there. I was trying to find good barbecue when I first moved to New York.

[B]

Also, shout out Casey masterpiece chips, dude. Yeah, Fire.

[A]

Was that a partnership with. With fucking Lays?

[B]

I think so, dude. I think it was KC barbecue rib or Nashville hot chicken.

[A]

Well, part of this now is like, my loyalty to like, I don't think I can steer away. Like, I'm not going to give Nashville the nod over kc.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But I do a good spicy chicken sandwich really hits. And you can find some in Nashville that'll like, make your head sweat. And those are good.

[B]

Casey barbecue rib. Casey barbecued rib or Hawaiian loco moco?

[A]

Tell me exactly what the local moco is.

[B]

It's the hamburger on rice with the gravy.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

You could go Casey Rib, bro.

[A]

I've just spent my whole life.

[B]

The brisket goes crazy.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

He has a big green egg outside

[B]

just, like, smoke for 12 hours.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He has, like, the biggest green egg I've ever seen. I didn't even know they made that size.

[A]

What's a green egg? Paul Rudd, Kansas City guy.

[B]

Oh, word.

[A]

He's like, a big green egg proponent guy.

[B]

I love Paul Rudd.

[A]

He's great.

[B]

Yeah. He needs to come eat some of this barbecue.

[A]

I'll see him in. In May and I'll pitch.

[B]

Tell him I'm a big fan.

[C]

Tell him to come through.

[B]

Oh, word. Okay. Kansas City barbecue or Philly cheesesteak?

[A]

Okay, this has probably been the.

[B]

This is tough.

[A]

What? Can I ask your. Your spot in Philly.

[B]

Okay. I like. I like gyms on South Street. There's a lot of other people that like other ones, but I just like Jim's on South street because it's tight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Proportions. The amoroso bread. The amount of steak to cheese to onion is just tight. That's my one.

[A]

Can I give a shout out to Max's in North Philly? No one knows about it. It's. It's a spot one. It's cash only. Two, Obviously, all the dudes chopping beef are wearing, like, Phillies fitteds. Yeah. And then only yinglings in the fridge.

[B]

And it's like, I went to school in Pittsburgh, bro.

[A]

It's so.

[B]

I got a lot of kegs at Yingling.

[A]

It's so Philly and, like, so dope. And it's the only place I've been to in Philly that you have to ask for no mayo on the cheesesteak. A lot of people don't do mayo, but they do mayo.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

You like.

[C]

I like mayo on a two steak.

[B]

Very Mexicano. That's very Mexicano. Okay, but. So cheesesteak or Kansas City rib? This is tough, bro.

[A]

I just feel like I'm ruining the game if I stick with Kansas City the whole time.

[B]

No, no, you can stick with it. She sticks with all the time. She stuck with Julia Wolf over so many Penelope Cruise.

[C]

It was Penelope Cruz. I mean, I don't know who's hotter than her.

[B]

We did rapid fire girls she wants to hook up with, and she was like, Penelope Cruz. Go Birds.

[C]

Go Birds.

[A]

I've just spent my whole life telling people, like, where to go get barbecue in Kansas City. It's like, so I can't go Kansas City. I might.

[B]

You might be. You don't know what Cheesesteak, dude.

[A]

Cheesesteak.

[B]

If you weren't from Kansas City. You may go. Cheesesteak.

[C]

Listen to your heart. What is your heart telling you?

[B]

Yeah, go with your heart.

[A]

You had Bern ends in Kansas City.

[B]

Yes. Crazy, bro. Crazy. Burn it. I just like Kansas City because it has the sweetness in the tomato, you know? That's what I want.

[A]

Ketchup and brown sugar.

[B]

Yes. If it's pulled pork, I want the Carolina vinegar pulled pork. But ribs, it's like, no question to me. Kc. Yeah. Like, no shade to Memphis, you know? But, like, I want that. That wet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tomato.

[A]

Sweet rib holds it down, too. Gets overshadowed by casey barbecue.

[B]

But St. Louis goes crazy. Okay, Kansas City rib or New England clam chowder?

[A]

I'm going ribs.

[B]

But, like, you like to go down on a bowl of chowder. You just seem like that kind of guy.

[A]

In Boston, one time, someone left their chowder on the table next to us. Left, cleared it, waitress came to get it. I said. I said, give me that, bro. Chowder rips.

[B]

You'll go down everybody else's bowl of chowder.

[A]

Yeah, I don't care who's chowder. Am I sharing these? Do you guys want in?

[C]

No, Please enjoy.

[B]

KC Or Buffalo wings. Okay.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say. I gotta say goodbye.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

It's. It's a wing. My death row meal is 12. Hot with the beer.

[C]

Oh, that's crazy.

[B]

I.

[A]

With you? Yeah, with you. I'm. Tell this guy. I'm telling you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yo, I'm such a procerous Rex, too.

[C]

It's so funny because every time you order food, you know when you're, like, with your girl and you're ordering food, and then they're like, well, what do you want? What do you want? And then you're like, okay, whatever. It gets annoying. Nobody can make a decision. You pick three places every single time. I know. In the B. I know. He just wants to get it to Wings.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I know it doesn't matter what it is. Like, it doesn't matter. Time of day, situationally. Like, I know he wants wings. Like, I know if I don't want to make a decision, I'm like, just get wings. I don't. Just, whatever. Get wings.

[A]

After this, I'm going to Buffalo Wild Wings and Queens.

[B]

I like the Buffalo Wild Wing. Boneless, too.

[C]

Yeah, they're good.

[B]

But shout out Dan and John's wings. I like Dan and John.

[A]

That's your favorite.

[C]

They're so in the city.

[B]

I like Dan and John's. And then I Don't know if it's still open, but there's a spot, a Trini spot in Brooklyn called Sugar Cane. That does a really good rib, too. Yeah.

[C]

Anyways, I'm gonna shout out Bough House because I think the wings here are the best.

[B]

We do have fire wings.

[C]

I don't know. Maybe come try our wing.

[B]

We have mumbo wings.

[C]

We have mumbo wings. We have chili.

[B]

Yeah, Chili garlic.

[C]

Yeah, Chili garlic.

[B]

And then the flower shot. We got the Szechuan lemon pepper wing. That's crazy.

[C]

Those are crazy.

[B]

Those might be the. I think the flower shot wing is the best.

[C]

Those are the best wings.

[B]

Okay. Buffalo wings or muffaletta.

[A]

That's Cajun. Yeah.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

It's a New Orleans.

[B]

Yep. It's the olives and peppers chopped up sandwich.

[A]

It's just gonna be hard to leave wings. I did. I did a New Orleans food crawl a year ago for, like, a. Like, a branded thing, and I was like. I was so beat up by the end of it, but that's a underrated food city.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

I went to Mardi Gras once, and I passed out so drunk. But I had people have a photo. My boy has a photo of me. I did not drop my hurricane.

[A]

No.

[B]

I was passed out, and the hurricane was still up.

[C]

Priorities.

[B]

Yes. And then. Okay. Buffalo wing or Maryland crab cake? This is great. I may. I may find two more, bro. I may find two more. I feel like I might be able to find two more. My.

[A]

My family says my food journey began. We were in the Chesapeake Bay, and we went to a crab shack, and I like. Like, I think that's when I, like, first realized I had free will and just, like, 12 crabs.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And it was. I loved every minute of it. And I remember that restaurant specifically.

[B]

Same. My first ever fishing trip was a crabbing trip. My dad took me on a boat, and we dropped chicken necks into the water to get crabs. And it was, like, one of my greatest childhood memories. So I'm.

[A]

I'm still singing with wings because I'm. It's just like. Yeah. I think about them once a day, but I. I have so much respect for a crab cake, dude. Okay.

[B]

Off. It's not in the rapid fire, but, like, steam. Blue crab love. Yeah. Honestly, as a woman, I don't know why more women don't test their man. Like, on a second date, a girl should be like, yo, let's go get steamed blue crabs. Because nothing tests what that mouth do. Besides the back fin of a blue crab. You could really see What a dude is about like, like. Cuz it's like it's suction plus you know you have to work it for sure. You got to work.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I have a question for you, cuz I know that ladies see what that

[B]

man does with a blue crab before you take them home.

[C]

Yeah, what is it? A little test run. You know what I mean? Trial it out before you buy it. Try it before you buy it.

[B]

Yeah, have him pay the bill. Have him eat some blue crabs.

[C]

Cuz I know you cook and I know on summer house you're like known for making this breakfast situation, but no one knows what you put in it. But apparently it's just like so love.

[A]

I. I tick tocked it like a week or two ago. Okay, well for the reason. Two things. One, every year I do something random that sticks for like a year.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

The first year I like did. I did some like meme thing and it like that was a meme for years. Last year I, I was ahead of its time with the scarf under like a hat kind of vibe.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You're babushka.

[A]

I babush good super early and that kind of stuck.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

This year it's this casserole I made. But the, the Midwest and the south are like so like have their pitchforks like behind me because the, the cast didn't know what the a casserole was. And they were like, they're like, what is this?

[C]

I didn't know what it was.

[B]

I want to try something. Green bean casserole. Green bean casserole.

[C]

Casseroles. And then once he did, I was like, this is genius.

[B]

Why? The why it's like impossible to.

[C]

Why is the northeast not doing casseroles? I'm like, oh, it's a pan full of cool stuff that you want.

[B]

You basically can make anything. A seven layer dip.

[A]

Someone, someone like like on Instagram was like, I guess I'd try it. And I go, it's eggs. It's eggs. Like what do you think?

[C]

Like you had this.

[A]

This isn't crazy. Like it's not innovative. But anyways, it was.

[B]

It's a sandwich in an oven. You just stack everything you like and put it in.

[A]

I like that carb was #Browns, 12 eggs and then sweet spicy Italian sausage. And then I do like one red bell pepper, a white onion and a jalapeno for color fire. And then southwest castle fuck load of cheese.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then you take it out and like cheese and hot. And then like I do a little paprika on top to broil it and give it, like, some color, some aesthetic

[B]

for the mouth breathers from the east coast that don't know what a casserole is. It's a lasagna. Yeah, that's a lasagna.

[A]

It's a lasagna with other.

[C]

I'm into a casserole.

[A]

Thank you for asking about that.

[C]

That's how I cook for our kid now. Everything is a casserole. Like, I'm like, I don't know what to do. It's a super casserole. Like, what do you want?

[A]

I did an interview with Good Home Good Housekeeping yesterday about the casserole.

[B]

Wow. It's like.

[A]

Like, people are just. They feel seen.

[B]

They want the recipe. Damn. You brought casseroles back.

[A]

I would like to think that I did.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Buffalo wings or key lime pie?

[A]

Buffalo wing.

[B]

Easy.

[A]

I'm not a sweets guy. We're regionally Florida. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not.

[B]

Cocaine and key lime pie is, like, crazy. Is that fun?

[C]

I know. I'm savory over sweet always. Like, if you put something so just, like, insanely good. That's savory.

[B]

I'm gonna. I'm the savory, savory chef.

[C]

I would rather eat a bowl of noodles and a cake any day.

[B]

Yeah, any day. Last one. Yep. I may get. I may get you buffalo wings or New York style pizza.

[A]

Wings win.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Those, I think, are the two greatest regional foods of all time. They're, like, in a category alone, wings and pizza.

[C]

But I think that when I'm eating pizza, like, I know people love to be like, oh, I go, here I go, here I go wherever for my pizza. My dream pizz is accompanied by wings. I want to eat pizza with wings.

[B]

Like, garlic knots.

[C]

That's why, like, a Domino's delivery. I'm so sorry. I'm a piece of, like, a Domino's delivery where I can get, like, wings.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And pizza. Like, I'm good

[B]

crispy with sausage and peppers on the pizza and their wings and a Coke.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

Game over.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

I'm on the toilet in 25 minutes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You wake up.

[B]

Yeah, bro. IBS gang op full opposite.

[A]

Can't find anything to, like, my stomach up. Like people. Yeah.

[B]

Iron Man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your stomach is country strong.

[A]

Yeah. But my dad's. God, I used to always think he was like, he had a disease when we'd leave restaurants and he'd be like, we have to go home. And then the older you get, you're like, oh, a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The Disease is ibs.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, they can't hang.

[C]

No, we're very. I'm. He's like, got a poop 24 7. And I'm just like, I have iron stomach too.

[B]

Like, I'm good.

[C]

I'll eat it and I'll be fine, bro.

[B]

I'm showering in the middle of the night to get back in bed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, like 3am she's up with the kid. All poop showers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's a bummer, dude.

[C]

You know what? I recently figured something out. We have to talk about it. I think I know the source of your issues.

[B]

What?

[C]

I was researching it and it's like just overgrowth of bacteria. It's H. Pylori. I don't even think you have ibs. I think you have a H. Pylori overgrowth of bacteria.

[B]

I know. That's what Shorty the gut health told me.

[A]

My mom is very into gut health right now. Yeah, we'll put. I'll get. We'll group text.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

And I'll see. I'll. I'll see what. I need that remedy she has for just like day to day male ibs. Yeah, I got something going.

[B]

I definitely.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like we can fix this.

[B]

I had a great doctor, Dr. Wang in California, but since I moved to Cal, New York, she can't treat me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I. If your mom got advice, I'll do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What's your favorite regional American food,

[C]

man? My favorite regional American food. I mean, just because I'm nostalgic, like, it's Boston for sure. It's a. It's a roast beef three way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's hot.

[C]

It's a recipe three way with some onion rings. I like a lobster roll. Like, I love a clam chowder. I'm. I'm an east coast, like New England girl through and through. When I was younger, I probably would have bullshitted you and been like, said some lie, but like, that's who I am.

[A]

What, what, do your parents have accents like Boston?

[C]

Well, no, my mom kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But she. Her first language is Greek, so it's like kind of Now I hear the like Boston accent a little bit, but not really. I feel like a Boston accent. It kind of is acquired when you're like, truly in the city. We're a little bit outside.

[A]

Mom is Greek, Dad's. What?

[C]

Italian?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Classic immigrant.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Smash up.

[A]

That's dope.

[C]

Yeah. There's a lot of us.

[A]

Wait, I have to say one thing because I was thinking about It. And then we got off. I had to talk about New York pizza. I feel like with New York pizza, it's such a fucking ideation or like this concept that you'll always overthink where you're getting pizza.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Even if it's a dollar slice and you're drunk, you're like, is this place as good as the one across? And like. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, can we just all, like, catch our breath?

[C]

No.

[B]

The pressure is real pressure. Anywhere. Anywhere. It's good.

[A]

Joe's overrated, I think. Can we agree?

[C]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

Okay. I just wanted to say that.

[B]

Yes, if I'm in the neighborhood by Joe's in the West Village, I'm going to John's. John's on Bleecker is better.

[A]

We. I live in hell's kitchen for four years. There's a place called zillions. It's on 42nd, and it's money.

[C]

People sleep on Midtown for the slice. So many people working around Midtown. And, like, even just like Hell's Kitchen, wherever we're in Murray Hill. There's good food in Murray Hill.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because there's a lot of working class people that are having lunch. And the food hits.

[A]

What are your cross streets in Murray Hill?

[C]

We'll tell you after.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[B]

No, don't be sorry.

[A]

No, no, no, don't be sorry.

[B]

Because we've had weird people pull up, but, like.

[C]

Yeah, but we're. Yeah, I mean, we're not far from, like, the heart of the.

[B]

I'd say. We close to the Lucia Pizza out there.

[C]

Yeah, we're close.

[A]

I live above Street Taco for, like, a hot meal.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I think it's 26th and 3rd.

[B]

Yeah, we close.

[A]

We have the old hood.

[B]

We closed.

[C]

No, but I love the food out there.

[B]

I still think. I think right now, Chrissy's pizza is my favorite.

[C]

Agreed.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I've now gone to Greenpoint four times to get Chrissy's pizza.

[B]

Oh, really?

[C]

It's so good. No, you have to go. No slices. Full pies. It's worth it.

[A]

And Midton Grove, pretty hard, too.

[B]

But we went to Ms.

[A]

Becoming, like.

[B]

Especially that.

[C]

It's becoming a little, like. It's a little, like. Yeah, I remember we went and, like, we were like, oh, my God, nobody's here. This is great. And then they were like, you have to sit at this, like, shitty table at the bar because they're like, everyone's coming. And then it was just blown.

[B]

Yeah. Do you like this, though? The contract? Construction food, bro. Chinese construction food.

[C]

It's great lunch.

[A]

And both your parents are Chinese?

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah, we're Chinese. Taiwanese by blood. Chinese. And then. But, like, they. They were born in Taiwan. All their brothers and sisters were born in China.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Do you know the Fung Bros? I did a video with them years ago called White People Food, and we basically tried to cover the, like, erasure of, like, white food in America. And it was a very interesting conversation.

[B]

What was qualified as white food?

[C]

Yeah, like a boiled dinner.

[A]

No, no. Just basically, like, how Italians still have food culture because none of them migrated west at all. They all have stayed in the Northeast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then, like, German. Like, I mean, obviously, like, mostly German, but it's. Everything is just kind of falling asleep, and there's not a lot of identity. Oh, damn, Eddie.

[B]

Yo, I nutted on myself right in the corduroy.

[A]

But also how a lot of white people, like, don't. Like, we're. People don't even know where they're from, you know? Yeah, you should.

[B]

Where are you from?

[A]

My grandma Scottish. Oma is Austrian, so I'm like, that's the closest I've got. And then my mom's dad was English, and then my dad's head is German. English.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But Austrian is, like, the closest.

[C]

Austria is cool as because you have, like, the analytical German side, but, like, the freaky Italianness of it. Like, it's like, German, Italian, freaky. Kind of, like, fun.

[A]

She was. She's very.

[C]

I love German speaking. Yeah.

[A]

I got. See the house she grew up in on a lake in Austria.

[B]

Only German. Austrian wine here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No way. Love.

[C]

I also have to say, like, for white people food, I guess. Like, I love Ukrainian food. I love German food. Like, I feel like when people think of white people food, they think, like, unseasoned and un. It's not good. And I'm like a borsch, babe. There's more flavor in a borsch.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like a pierogi with sour cream and onion just like. Or sour cream and onion. Sour cream and applesauce sauce that goes hard. A schnitzel.

[A]

Schnitzel with jelly. That's what we did in Austria when

[B]

we went just technically white food, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I hope we can claim that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Or would you say American? And at what point does American stop being white? And then, like, is it just American? Like, you know what I mean? It's just, like, very. That's all racially coded a little bit.

[B]

Yeah. But yeah, no food meal is definitely pecking. Duck and soup dumplings. I can't call one. It has to be both.

[C]

That's a good.

[B]

Right here. I like up the block. Nanshang Xiaolongbao right there. Downstairs. That's my favorite soup dumpling in New York.

[C]

My death row meal is sukiyaki.

[B]

Oh, just. That's hot. You love sukiyaki.

[C]

I love sukiyaki.

[A]

My podcast producers grandparents own Noodle Town.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

No way.

[B]

I love yo. They let me to teach me how to make charshu Char Siu pork.

[A]

I was there last week. Week.

[B]

We gotta hang. That's my favorite Chinese restaurant.

[A]

I texted him the other day because I was coming here and I was like, dude, I think you've popped up on my tick tock or something. And someone was asking you, like, all your spots and you said noodle Town.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Eddie gave you a shout out on this, like, little street interview. Yeah.

[B]

The places I always tell people to go is Lugers and Noodle Town. Yeah.

[A]

I've never been. I haven't been to be.

[B]

We're going to Lugers. Three best restaurants in New York City. It's the oldest answers. Luger's, Noodletown, Rao's. Yeah.

[A]

Do you go to the 1? Isn't the only rails upper, is it Harlem?

[C]

Harlem.

[A]

Oh, Harlem.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Harlem. Because I'm into. I'm into old food and I'm into old vibe love, you know, and like, neighborhood dude. Yeah.

[C]

I would add Minetta Tavern.

[B]

I fuck with him and Balatos shout out Emilio for sure.

[A]

Balad, what's your take on all the. The food influencer on the Internet?

[B]

It's too much like, when the food is overthought and it's like, yo, so we extracted the marrow from here and then smoked this and then put the marrow back. I was like, yo, bro, this is a science experiment. I'm in chemistry class.

[A]

The food being made itself. But, like, the amount of people that, like, are trying to, like, get cl. Like, essentially using New York's restaurants.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

For their own clout.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I. Yeah. I think the reservation culture is, like, destroying New York. And that's what's happening as a result of all these people being like, you have to go. Go here and try the da da da and the da da da and like, the same cadence in, like, monotone voice and, like, not to like, yuck anyone's yum. That's cool if that's your passion and you're, like, doing that. But I do think just like the fact you have to have a reservation to get like a cup of Coffee now is.

[B]

We're fighting it here. Like, we don't allow reservations. There's gonna be. We're gonna put eight seats up for reservation a night. Like, that's all we're gonna do. But, like, we get a lot of pressure from, like. Like, people here to, like, take reservation. I'm like, the reason we don't take reservations is I can on any night, a friend can hit me up and be like, can I come to dinner? I'm like, I got you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, of course. I always want to take care of my friends.

[A]

You're about to struggle with me. I'm hitting you up a hell of times, bro.

[B]

Please, please.

[A]

No, I almost mean, like, the conversation we're having about, like, restaurants that are, like, staples. Like, if we opened up Tik Tok right now, there would be, like, 15 people who have lived here for five years or less. Like, also listing. Yeah, I probably kind of am not even valid enough to, like, actually, like, put my foot down and be like, this is right and wrong. But it's like. It's almost like this conversation is less original because of how many people are fucking doing it on the Internet.

[B]

I'm an unk, so I just sit TikTok out. I sit out TikTok on some unk

[A]

shit and, like, some unknown shit.

[B]

Unless my friends tell me about something or, like, I know someone, I don't really go, yeah, yeah. And, like. Like, the restaurant will find me.

[C]

You know, that's very much how I am. Like, I will walk around a neighborhood and see something that looks interesting and go there. But I do think the TikTok generation, if you will, of people doing that is servicing people that. That don't actually live here. Yeah, I think it's servicing a tourist. Like, I think it's people that live here. I would like to say most New Yorkers who have been here kind of know what they like. They know where they're going. They'll try new stuff. But I don't think they're looking to that to find out where to go. I think. I think it's very much people that maybe aren't here all the time that are like, oh, when I'm in town, where should I go?

[B]

All culture is for culture vultures now. And I'd like the. That's, like, not screaming for you to come, Right?

[A]

Yeah, right, right.

[B]

Where, yo, where have you, like, recently you've gone to dinner or lunch?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know Lion's Bar in East Village? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That.

[A]

My two drinks are Guinness and a Martini.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Depending on what kind of vibe I'm chasing.

[B]

One in a martini.

[A]

Guinness. Guinness.

[B]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[A]

I love a good.

[B]

Yeah, we got Guinness on tap here.

[A]

Do you.

[B]

Yeah, because if I'm gonna drink a beer, it's Guinness or, like, Taiwan beer.

[A]

Yeah, dude, I. I respect. I was in Japan last year, and this. I. I love a Sapporo.

[B]

Like, it's fine.

[C]

Yeah, a beer in Japan.

[A]

In Japan is so good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Everything with a ramen, it's insane.

[A]

Lion's Bar for, like, they have a good baked potato. Dude. It's just a good, like, I like that, you know, Corner bistro is a good establishment that I love to just, like, camp out in, especially when it's cold.

[B]

Fantastic burger. Fantastic.

[A]

I guess I'm just kind of like, naming burgers. I do think 7th street is, like, a good. A great smash. Yeah, that dude's from my hometown, actually.

[C]

I like.

[A]

Who is running that. Have you ever been to Gin Ramen? Upper west side? Yeah. Third.

[B]

Very good.

[A]

Good. I think that's the best ramen in New York.

[B]

Very good.

[A]

It's like, most ramen places, you get, like, a miso, a spicy and a vegetarian, and maybe like, one other one off the menu at gin ramen is 60 different bowls. And, like, I.

[B]

With that, so that's hard to do. So hard.

[A]

So hard. And then wings. Blondies, Upper West. I lived in the Upper west for, like, five seconds, so I. With those. Goes awall in Murray Hill. Ever been?

[C]

I've seen it a lot. I haven't been in, but I wall.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[A]

That was my first, like, hangover bar in New York where I would go get a beer and. And, like, eat hot wings to, like.

[B]

You'll get a lot of good wings in Murray Hill.

[C]

I will also say the Gem Saloon for lunch. Don't sleep on it, baby.

[A]

Dude, I did Gem Saloon Thursdays for about two years.

[B]

It goes crazy.

[A]

Pre Covid.

[B]

Gem Saloon goes crazy.

[C]

What did they have, like, a chicken pot pie that goes like bananas there?

[B]

What.

[A]

What cuisines am I missing?

[B]

You know, New York has a lack of Mexican food. It really does. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Los Tacos has helped a lot to just have, like, a taco in every area. Yeah. And it's fine. But, like, New York really lacks Mexican food. But what we miss in Mexican food, we gain in Jamaican, Dominican, Puerto Rican food.

[A]

Food, which I prefer. The best island food is in Brooklyn or Queens.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Flatbush.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Crown Heights, Flatbush.

[A]

Yeah. Best I. This is, like, a super white hot take, but I like, I, I think I enjoy fake Mexican a little bit

[B]

better than Tex Mex.

[A]

Than I do authentic, like corn tortillas.

[B]

That's valid, that's valid. I like Texas.

[C]

I'm not mad at that. I would have multiple like planned dinners to go to like Rosa Mexicano and just get like the worst.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's so good.

[C]

Because it's so good. It's just like Mexican food, it's so hot. Like when it's great, it's amazing. But when it's like white people, it's still so good, bro.

[B]

Even my family, we know real Chinese, but we with orange chicken. Chicken, yeah. We with beef and broccoli. Those are American innovations, like Chinese American innovations are fire. Like I would say that's kind of like Chinese American cuisine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Italian American cuisine. Like that's what America has offered to the world is like these mutated bastardized versions.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Where it's like you're performing your off you. It's basically immigrants performing their culture for other people. For white people.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that has, has actually created some fire.

[A]

Yeah, totally agree.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's nice to know you don't turn your nose up.

[B]

No, I think if you turn your nose up at anything, you're whack. You know the only thing I'll probably turn my nose up is that like somebody in an all bird shoe or a vega shoe. I'm like dog, you need to take that off right now. I don't know what the that is, but you're like, yeah, the startup sneaker. I'm just like get the out of here. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Respect.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't turn my nose up at much. I'm garbage. You know, I'm like Orlando, Florida.

[A]

Damn. Are there any parts of the country that you're like dying to go to that you haven't done? If you could do, if you could do Wong's World season three or you did three or four.

[B]

Yeah, let's say three. Three.

[A]

If you could do three, five episodes. What are the locations? It could be international.

[B]

Oh, international, okay.

[A]

And you haven't been there yet.

[B]

Oh, I definitely want to go to Morocco. North Africa is like number one so far. Like Morocco to me is really, really interesting. I would like to go to like Albania cuz it's amorphous. Like there's not really an Albania but like to like Albania. Yeah. Right. Like every doorman in New York is

[A]

from Albania and my ex girlfriend's dad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is they're all Balkan.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out dua lipa it's just like, let's go see her people. Right. That. What else? Those are the first two off the top of my head. Oh. I have never been to, like, Scandinavia. So, like, Viking country. Yeah. They'll be very cool.

[A]

They say that the people are. They're beautiful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a beautiful country.

[B]

Beautiful people, different climate. Yeah. I've been reading Nasgaard, so I'm down to go to, like, Scandinavia. I would love to go to Patagonia. Argentina. Totally. Like, that's interesting to me. Argentina is like. It's just interesting. Like, there's a director, Amaya Oldman. We watched her movie Magic Farm. I was just like, you know, whatever culture that person is from, I would like to see where she's from.

[A]

I've ever been to South America.

[B]

Yes. We did Peru.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I would like to do Brazil.

[C]

I would love to go to Brazil. I'm dying to go.

[B]

I'd like to go to Brazil.

[C]

Someone bring me to Brazil.

[B]

You know, you can't cheat on me in Brazil.

[C]

I won't.

[B]

That'd be so foul.

[C]

If we go to Brazil. I just want to die my entire body. Body blonde. And I want to go to Brazil and I want to kick a soccer ball on the beach. And, like, I just want to be in Brazil.

[B]

Not even trying to be funny and weird, but, like, because it is the conflict zone. I would go to Iran.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's just, like, who I am. Like, I would want to go and report from there and just be like, this is what's going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And then.

[A]

Do you do one domestic?

[B]

One domestic. New Mexico. I'm really interested in New Mexico.

[A]

Santa Fe is sick, dude.

[C]

I've never been to Santa Fe.

[B]

Yeah. The Southwest is very interesting to me.

[C]

I agree.

[B]

And not to, like, crib your thought, but Montana. I would love to go to Montana. I've been to Wyoming. I like the area.

[C]

Dying to go to Montana.

[A]

Let's make that happen.

[B]

I would love to go to, like, the harvest in, like, the south coast of Oregon. Like, you said, like, Willamette.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And do the harvest there. But I think it would be cool to just, like, bring some attention away from politics for a moment. And in the parts of America we don't talk about or it just like good, hardworking people doing their.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because we forget about that, man. You know what?

[C]

I feel like no one

[A]

the loudest truck in New York.

[B]

Everything's just an identity. Like, when I came up, my thing was, like, I wanted to bring attention to being, like, Taiwanese Chinese in America. But now I'm just like, yo, this. Like, I'm this and I'm that. I'm like, yo, we're all fighting. Everyone is beefing. And I'm just like, everyone's cool. Yeah, I'm kind of on this. Like, everyone's cool. Let's just like show everybody who's cool. Cuz it's not about. I just don't want it to be about identity anymore. No, that's led us down the wrong road.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[B]

It's my.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that would be my answer. Sorry if I bumped you out.

[A]

No, no, no, Those are great answers.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That's fun.

[B]

Like, I'm still so pro immigrant and everything, but I'm just like, bro, we this, us versus them shit. It's not it. Yeah, it's not it. Yeah, it's not it. Cheers to that.

[A]

Were you guys together when you were filming with Vice?

[C]

Yes. Well, no, no, Not Wong's World.

[B]

The doc.

[C]

When he made the Vice doc, we were together. Cheers.

[A]

Yeah. Bang.

[B]

No, we got together once I left Vice and right after I did Boogie, and then literally the week we had Senna our son, I started pre pro on the Vice doc.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah, but yeah, I really enjoyed doing the Vice, dog.

[A]

That's dope. Were you exposing? I haven't seen it.

[B]

You know, I think you could categorize as a couple people got, like, exposed as corny. I didn't try to cancel, you know, there was no canceling. It was more because my thing. I'm not in a cancel culture. But I was like, these dudes are corny. Yep. Like, what you did was corny. Selling out the company's corny. Yep. I'm not like, you're dead. You should never do it anything again. I just. I'm not that guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm like, yo, you should know you're corny. And I hope you change from my perspective, too.

[C]

I don't think that it was a critique on any individual person per se, and it was more a critique on capitalism and private equity and how that can destroy the good and anything for sure. Like, I think it was. Your critique was not personal in any way. It was. It was.

[A]

Yeah, but you have to use faces to, like, tell the stories.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Yo, I know we've kept you for a while, but I have one last, last thing. Is, yo, I love your pod. Did you go to high school with Shorty?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, word. That's what's up. Yeah. There you go.

[A]

I want to get you Some of the.

[B]

Yeah, get in there.

[A]

Yeah. We grew up together, and then now she plays with Caitlin Clark. So, like, the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Exposure is crazy.

[B]

I like the. Where Caitlyn didn't put on the Colts jersey. That cracked me up.

[A]

Up so tight. So sick. But Sophie, they, like, Kaylin Clark was just getting bullied. Bullied, dude. Like, left and right. And one game, she took, like, three hip checks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This girl goes in for a layup, and Sophie took this girl by the back of the neck and just was giving it to her under the hoop. Got kicked out, got fined, gained like 500k Instagram followers, like, overnight for just, like, being. Yeah. A real enforcer. Like, being a real one. And, like, all of our teams were just like, you guys grew up. Like, that's crazy. Like, let's figure it out. Now we're just doing. She's dope, she's super real.

[B]

And that thing. We won't get into it, but that thing, too, it's like, it's whack. Identity politics. These are just girls playing ball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They didn't ask for this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so I. I think I just hope America can move. Start to move past the shit. Shit.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

Yeah. But, yo, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. This is incredible.

[A]

Half hour.

[B]

Yeah, no, we're chilling, we're having more wine and eating.

[A]

It's a perfect day.

[B]

I know.

[C]

It's so nice out.

[A]

Yeah, this is beautiful.

[B]

I'm going to just turn the cameras off and we chill.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Straight up.