Bongos, Jersey Mike's & Tripping Ballz .. MEET THE FCUKERS on Canal Street Dreams

Summary

Canal Street Dreams: "Bongos, Jersey Mike's & Tripping Ballz .. MEET THE FCUKERS"

Podcast: Canal Street Dreams
Hosts: Eddie Huang & Natashia Perrotti
Date: February 17, 2026
Guests: The Fuckers (Jackson and unnamed bandmates from NYC’s Lower East Side scene)

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Episode Overview

This energetic, deeply local episode brings on The Fuckers, a hotly tipped dance music group with deep roots in New York’s Lower East Side creative and nightlife scene. Eddie and Natashia, as always, keep the conversation unfiltered, roaming from stories of dead-end day jobs, parties gone off-the-rails, formative musical influences, and the artist’s eternal hustle—from grimy dumpling shops to prepping for massive Harry Styles tour dates in Brazil.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Neighborhood Roots and Music Beginnings

• The Fuckers’ members have all lived, worked, and gigged at classic LES fixtures like Pianos, Mogador, and Babies All Right.

• The project was born out of mutual indie rock fatigue and a desire to make dance music “for fun” and without genre boundaries:

  • “When we first met… I was like, I kind of quit my indie band. Kinda want to make dubstep or something … He was like, ‘okay, perfect, well, like, me too — not dubstep, but I made this beat, you want to sing on it?’ I was like, ‘yes, let’s do it.’” (Jackson, 01:06)

• The group’s name was inspired by a thrifted French Connection hoodie—symbolic of their “don’t give a fuck” DIY spirit (02:02–02:45).

2. Influences and the Open Format Ethos

• The Fuckers stress the importance of open format—melding house, reggae, cumbia, dancehall, dub, and more, rather than boxing themselves into a single style (05:26–11:11).
  • “It was the combo of the two of us more than us drawing from one thing. Like, ‘I like house and you like reggae, so let’s throw, like, a dub thing into a house thing.’” (Unnamed Male Musician, 05:55)
• The hosts and guests riff on legendary DJs like Jesse Marco and Ellie Escobar; open-genre NYC parties; and how real neighborhoods, diverse friend groups, and late-night oddball sets breed unexpected, innovative music.
  • “Being one genre is whack, you know, like sticking to one thing is whack. Open format is the way.” (Eddie Huang, 10:39)

3. Gig Stories, Parties, and the Art of Repetition

• Tales of rowdy parties, questionable DJ moves, and drugged-up afters abound, from looped Gorillaz songs on mushrooms (13:36) to epic “Set It Off” marathons:

  • “This dude was DJing and he just played Strafe ‘Set it Off’ three times in a row, back to back. All right, cool, bro.” (Eddie, 11:56)
  • “I’ll listen to the same song 300 times. I love to be at a set where it’s like, let’s just hit this.” (Natashia Perrotti, 12:12)

• The Lower East Side “network” is a recurring subject: indie bands, ball games at P.S. 41, record stores, and being plugged in through unlikely city channels.

4. NYC Nostalgia: Dumplings, Subway, and Scented Streetlife

• The crew shares hardcore local opinions on dumpling spots (Prosperity Dumpling, North Dumpling), and the olfactory horrors of living above a Subway sandwich shop:

  • “Subway really does smell like an airport. It’s like airport bread.” (Eddie, 17:32)

• Hilarious sidebars arise about fast food loyalty, shameful Jersey Mike’s stanning, and bizarre airport food choices (17:47–21:17).

5. Upcoming Tours and International Adventures

• The Fuckers are opening for Harry Styles in Brazil (July), then headlining a U.S. and UK/European tour.
  • Travel hack humor: Eddie advises them to “never fly sitting up” for airline status game (24:10) and the group jokes about heading to Brazil for BBLs.
  • “When we go to Brazil, I’m getting a BBL. We both just come back with like, huge fat asses.” (Jackson, 25:02)

6. Collaborations and Creative Chemistry

• The story of working with Kenny Beats (now sometimes Kenny Bloom), a meeting born of a DM that blossomed unexpectedly into productive sessions and pushed all parties out of their comfort zones:

  • “We just thought we were gonna, like, go have a coffee, say what up and dip. And then…we were like, you guys trying to cook right now? And we were like, I mean, yeah, fuck it.” (Jackson, 26:03)
  • Analogies are made to legendary “genre-switching” producers like Emile Haynie.

• Jackson’s long history with the producer Leon Michels (Diamond Mine, Big Crown Records), foundational LES figure and stealth “secret killer” in the studio:

  • “He taught me so much. He’s such a legend.” (Jackson, 29:40)

7. Living, Parenting, and Creating in NYC

• The guests and hosts discuss balancing parenthood, late nights, and artistry in a city that can feel both nurturing and unrelenting.
  • The desire to hit more shows and re-immerse in the local scene is a recurring theme, alongside the ever-present specter of needing childcare to do it (31:28).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NYC’s “Open Format” Style:
  “The thing about New York was like, hip hop to house, to rock, to whatever.” (Unnamed Male Musician, 09:27)

• On the Sense of Community:
  “You don’t really got to know nobody else besides like dudes from your basketball run.” (Eddie, 07:26)

• On Going Beyond Genres:
  “You don’t want to be in a band with like, four people who are like, into the same thing almost, because then you’re just going to sound like that thing.” (Unnamed Male Musician, 11:39)

• On Party Chaos:
  “Five minutes later, people are playing bongos. And then I just remember Gorillaz ‘Dare’ was on for at least two hours on loop. And like, everyone was so like out of their minds...” (Unnamed Male Musician, 13:36)

• On Local Grievances:
  “The worst Subway. They’re so rude in there, by the way. I…hate them in there. They’re just mean people.” (Unnamed Female Musician, 16:17)

• On Meeting Kenny Beats / Kenny Bloom:
  “He was like, ‘You guys trying to cook right now?’…And so then we, like, made two songs on the first day, and we’re like, wait, this is fire.” (Jackson, 26:03)

• On Food on the Road:
  “Sometimes I’m like, I go to Miami and I cannot wait to just come back so I can get the food at the airport.” (Unnamed Female Musician, 22:05)

• On BBL Aspirations:
  “When we go to Brazil, I’m getting a BBL. We just come back with, like, huge fat asses.” (Jackson, 25:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:21: Artists’ work history and LES roots
• 01:06: The Fuckers’ origin story—post-indie burnout, spontaneous collaboration
• 03:12: The French Connection thrift story, band naming
• 05:26–11:11: Musical influences and the gospel of open format
• 12:08–13:55: Wild party stories (“Set It Off”, Gorillaz “Dare” marathon, tripping in London)
• 16:17: NYC food memories, dumplings, and Subway sandwich-onion trauma
• 19:07–21:17: Fast food discourse—Subway, Jersey Mike's, Panda Express, airport sushi
• 22:39–24:55: Touring plans, travel hacks, Brazil and BBL jokes
• 26:03–28:30: Collaborative chemistry with Kenny Beats/Bloom and Leon Michels
• 29:40–32:18: Leon Michels stories, LES jazz upbringing, hand of God moments in music
• 33:05–34:21: Upcoming shows, DJ sets, Bow House opening
• 34:21–end: Bow House menu plans, closing NYC love

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Final Takeaways

• The Fuckers embody a local, honest, no-rules NYC approach: scenes that blend dance music, reggae, house, and unbridled party energy.
• The city’s culture of open format—musically and socially—is at the heart of their vibe and creative process.
• Collaboration, comfort in risk, and drawing from the chaos and warmth of their Lower East Side network is what keeps their sound fresh and genuinely fun.
• Whether it’s the right bodega sandwich or the best dim sum, staying true to place and people is as central to their art as any beat or lyric.

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For show dates and more, follow The Fuckers and Canal Street Dreams on Substack and socials.

Transcript

[Host]

All right, welcome back, Canal Street Dreams. We have renowned Lower east side musicians on the pod. Fuckers. We're very excited about this. I read you guys bio, and then I read. I read the whole deck that your publicist sent. I usually never read this shit. And I was like, oh, like, they've worked at all the places I like, like, pianos. And then you just said you worked in Mogador, too.

[Jackson]

I did, yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And we're opening Bauhaus right next to Mogador. Yeah, that's what's up. So, I mean, it's. It's dope when artists come from, like, the neighborhood, you know, is how I feel. But the music is fire.

[Jackson]

Thank you.

[Host]

Yeah, I wanted to, like, do drugs. Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

But we're at the. We're at the pool table right now. You're at the cheetah print pool table?

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah. We actually are in the perfect location right now.

[Host]

Y' all should play the flower shop.

[Jackson]

Sometimes I feel things in here.

[Host]

It's too good, but. And then I. I like, too. I was reading about how you were like, yo, this indie sucks. And then you guys linked up that way. Tell us about that.

[Jackson]

Well, yeah, we. We had both been in indie bands before, like, separately, and we had both kind of quit. And, like, when we first met, Jackson was like, so, like, what's up with you and music? And I was like, I. I don't know. Kind of quit my indie band. Kind of want to make dubstep or something, but, like, I'm not really sure. And then he was like, okay, perfect. Well, like, me, too. Not dubstep, but, like, he was like, I made this beat. Do you want to sing on it? I was like, yes, let's do it.

[Host]

That's fly. And then you were. What were you at?

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I was working at pianos at the time, and then I was DJing, like, maybe, like, for the other half of my rent money. It was like, half and half, and. And I just, like, hit a wall where I was like, it'd be fun to, like, make music again. You know what I mean? But just for fun, you know? And I remember there was like. There's that little market right across from pianos. Like, not market, but you know that, like, Orleans, right?

[Host]

Is it Orleans Grocery?

[Unnamed Male Musician]

No, like the. No, the little, like, thrift market that's, like, in that little, like, building. Less divot. And I used to, like. I used to be at work, and I used to be like, I'm Go get a coffee. I'd tell, like, my boss to be like, I'm Gonna go get a coffee. And then I'd, like, go and see how long I could, like, dip until my boss would text me, like, hey, where are you? This, like, person came. But I was. I remember one of the days I went there, and it's right around the time I met her. And I got. I got a French Connection hooky hoodie, like one of the old. And I was like, man, that's exactly the vibe of what we're doing. Like, we don't really give a fuck.

[Host]

Damn. That's how you came up with. It was the French Connection era.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I had the hoodie and I was like, man, we don't give a fuck. Like, fuck this.

[Jackson]

Yeah, I literally remember. I was like. Cause we had kind of just been messing around, working on stuff for a few months. And then I was like. We were like, all right, I guess we should, like, put a song out or something. And then I was like, jackson, what are we gonna, like, call it or something? And he was like, I have this idea. And I was like, okay. He's like. I was like, okay, yeah, that sounds good. Let's do that.

[Host]

Yeah. No, Natasha loved the name when it came through.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I used to be, like, the biggest French Connection Stan when I was in middle school. And I would get kicked out of school because I would wear the shirts, but I just wouldn't stop. And my mom would just keep buying them for me and keep letting me wear them to school. And then I saw. I think I saw, like, not too far from here, like, vintage Twin. I think there was a. Like, a poster and I saw it and I was like, yo, I gotta know what that is. And that's how I found out about you guys. And then I love the music. The music by Lut is. It's like. It's genuinely genius. They're so good. I love it.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I just want to make one plea. French Connection. Bring back the old logo. That's what everyone wants. Let's bring it back.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

You guys should bring it back.

[Host]

We.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Hey, listen, you have our number call.

[Host]

You know, they really should. You guys fit too.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Let's collab. Yeah. Let's link and build.

[Host]

You remind me, y' all could be in train spotting. Five, you know?

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah, 25. Brought to you by Friends Connection.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Stop doing Marvel. Let's get back into train spot.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's watch movies. Heroin and vomit. The good old days. No, Yeah. I love it. But what's. And then. Were you at babies? All right, which one of you is at babies? Alright.

[Jackson]

Yeah. Well, we had Our first show ever there.

[Host]

That's right.

[Jackson]

We got our first single, like, ready, and we were like, if we book a show, then we'll have to finish it and put it out. So we, like, finished it literally on the Monday, and our show was on a Friday. We, like, went to the Passport place really quick, took a photo, and we're like, all right, well, I guess we'll put the song out and we'll play a show, and just, like, that'll probably be it, you know? And. And, yeah, and then the show turned out really fun, and we were like, wait, that was kind of sick.

[Host]

No, it's really fun dance music. Cause I have. I feel like dance music, like, fun dance music like this. I haven't enjoyed it this much since, like, kind of the Ed Banger era, you know? And then I was listening to your album this week in the kitchen, and I was just like, yo, I just want to party. But what would you guys say your influences are?

[Jackson]

I think we both have a lot of different influences. Yeah. Like, I think that was something kind of cool when we met. Like, I didn't really listen to a lot of house music before Fuckers. And Jackson was DJing a lot at the time. And, like, I was listening to just, like, dancehall and, like, cumbia and, like, dub and, like, that kind of stuff. And then. So, like, I feel like it was kind of cool because I didn't have any preconceived notions of, like, how I should sing house music, kind of. Yeah, sorry.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, yeah, it was sick because I think with our stuff, it's like, it was the combo of the two of us more than us drawing from one thing. It would be like, all right, well, I like house and you like reggae, so let's throw, like, a dub thing into a house thing, you know? And I feel like we always had. No, we never put, like, a strict bounds on it, you know, too. Because when I was DJing a lot at the time, I mean, for, like, you know, a lot of them for rent money, you know, for. For, like, a long time. So I think at the time I met you, I would have been. I was probably still at my residency at, like, Paul's Baby grand and, like, spot like that. Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Y' all are truly of the neighborhood. Like, all these spots are the spots, like, we would go to to hide out. Like, even our sous chef here is, like, the old one from Baby's All Right. Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah. I mean, Billy Jones is the man. Like, I worked RIP you know, but I worked at his Record store too. And, and yeah, love, love that dude.

[Host]

I used to play ball with Billy every Friday night. P.S. 41, man. Yeah, he had a good spin movie.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

He was a baller. And the short shorts.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He stayed short shorts always, man.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

He stayed free jazz.

[Host]

Yeah. And funny enough, his partner Zach, Mexico was my plug to China. Like when I went to China, he got me my housing in China and he didn't even tell me. He put me up in that by the hour love motel for a month. I was like, what? So that like downtown network is cool like that? Yeah, you know, like you don't really gotta know nobody else besides like dudes from your basketball run.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Literally.

[Host]

Yeah, fly like that. But no, you guys sound is very genuine and organic. It doesn't feel like you put rules on it or you overthink it. And I think that's why it feels like a party. You know, it's. It's. It's genuine and authentic. Just like around like the dub really comes through. Yeah, yeah. And then your vocals do feel like, like OG House, which I like a lot.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I love it. I. I live for like just that your vocals, like, we were listening to it. I love 90s house and just kind of like even when we had jubilee on, we were talking about homie Jess. Shout out Jess. We're trying, always try to get her back here. I'm like, she's the funnest.

[Host]

I want to hear you sing on a Florida breaks track like y' all with Jess and do that.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

But yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. It's like those. Oh my God, I'm blanking on the name. We talked about it when Jess was here, but it was. I'll remember it. We'll throw it in. But it like really reminded me of a lot of that Florida break stuff. Not super like referential to it, but the feeling you get when you listen to it of like, I want to party. This is a good time.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

And like you don't even have to be partying, but like I'm like a mom, like hanging out with my kid. And I was like, no, like, this is I with this. Like, this is a good vibe.

[Host]

Yeah. We had this on for like two weeks in the house. Yeah, it was. We were really banging this.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Our two year old babe, he bangs to it. He's cool.

[Host]

It's fun. But I hope you guys keep it that way. We're just like free flowing and doing what you feel and just sticking with you guys.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I think, I think like the New York style is open format, which I think people forget because they're always like, oh, what's the New York side? What's it? And I'm like, it's kind of open format. Like if you look at Ellie Escobar and stuff, like, that's the thing. It's like he'll be at, you know, I don't know if they're still doing dance, dance, dance, like on Wednesdays at Levain, but it's like he'll go from that, which is like dance hall. I'm a piano party, and then do tiki disco and then do a goth night at Gabriella.

[Host]

And.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

And it's like, you know, that was always, to me, the thing, the thing about New York was like, hip hop to house, to rock, to whatever.

[Host]

Yeah. Like, Paul's format was always my favorite. Paul's baby grand.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

And Anne lebane, because, you know, he'd have like just blaze spinning and then someone play scenes from an Italian restaurant. I'm like, this is fly, bro. Whoever did this, this shit crazy.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Well, I, I remember like back in the day because my, My. My big cousin taught me how to DJ Jesse Marco, who is like, yeah, gold.

[Host]

Gold bar. Yeah, Jesse Marco, Gold Bar Sunday night.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

And he had been like, you know. Yeah, open. He was like the open format. Like prodigal son, I feel like in New York for years. And I remember when I was like, much younger, like the first night he like brought me out and I said, and he makes. I remember it was like he makes like into Michael Jackson, into Lenny Kravitz in like three moves into a cumbia track.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

And it all worked.

[Host]

And nobody does that.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

No, no, it's hard.

[Host]

Gold Bar Sunday night was legendary. And it was like him, pj, Monty, James Cruz, like all those dudes. Like, I miss those parties. Yeah. Like, you guys got to bring this back.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

You know, because everyone's inside. I loved your quotes. We were like, indy's fucking whack. And I was like, it's just being one genre is whack, you know, like sticking to one thing is what open format is the way.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

Yeah. And I think like on our EP too, like, we have like kind of all of the songs in it are all like kind of different styles. And I think we want, like, we like being able to have that range and like have a down tempo song on our album and have like just all different kinds of vibes and not just like one thing. It's really fun and like freeing creatively.

[Host]

Yeah. And I Feel like that open format and that style of music came from people's friend groups. Like, it was a reflection of, like, having all these weird homies and kind of like I remember watching, like, major laser laser come together where it was like Jillionaire and fucking Walshy Fire were in Miami doing their thing. Then they link with Diplo, and then it became this, like, weird style of music that then became very defined. And I think it was cooler when it wasn't defined.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, 100%.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

That's why you don't want to be. I feel like you don't want to be in a band with like, four people who are like, into the same thing almost, because then you're just going to sound like that thing. If it's like four dudes who are like, I love the Arctic Monkeys. It's going to sound like the Arctic Monkeys.

[Host]

I remember one of the best parties I was at was like, around New Year's 2018. We were all on Molly and this dude was DJing and he just played strafe. Set it off three times in a row, back to back. All right, cool, bro.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You're like, let's go. You know, why not love that?

[Host]

I love it.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's how I listen to music. I'll listen to the same song 300 times. I love to be at a set where it's like, let's just hit this.

[Host]

Set it off to the left. Yes, to the right. Set it off.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's an insane choice, though.

[Host]

That's like, really.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's so severe.

[Host]

I have the video of it, too. I'm nine minutes of setting off. I just had up drinking water like this.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Sometimes you just need that one tune. Like, I remember the first time we went to London. Like, we ended up.

[Jackson]

I mean, God knows where this is.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Before we didn't, you know, this was early days, so we didn't have a tour manager or anyone to like, rein us in, you know what I mean?

[Jackson]

I didn't even know where I was staying that night after the show.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's the best suitcase.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

There was no rules on that one. And we, we. We ended up at this afters at some dude from, like, black Country New Roads house. We still don't know which one. It was a long night or whatever, and we were like. I don't know, we had taken, like, a lot of shrooms and some stuff, and we end up at this house walking, and this guy's like, hey, listen, so it's cool that all of you, like, crashed my house or whatever, but, like, this Room. No one's allowed in this room. Just so everyone's clear. Like everyone get fucked up.

[Host]

It's cool.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

No one's loud in this room.

[Jackson]

Five minutes later, I'm like, under the.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Five minutes later. Five minutes later, people are playing bongos. And then I just remember Gorillaz Dare was on for at least two hours on loop. And like everyone was so like out of their minds. Like, honestly, it was like no one even complained.

[Host]

Everyone was like, sometimes a badly djed party with everyone fucked up. Is it like I've just left. Like I do both J and J on just going at times, you know.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Just like play that shit for hours in our house. At least it landed was fucked up either. We were just sober and it was daylight.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

At least it landed on a good one. That was my vibe. I was like, all right, it's looping on a. On a banger.

[Host]

I love parties like that. Just drug dead and shit.

[Jackson]

So fun.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Bring back bongos at parties.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah, I haven't seen a set of bongos in a long time.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You need more parties.

[Jackson]

There should be more drum circles around that. You can just go to you.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I agree.

[Host]

I'm into it.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I'm trying to get our kid into drums because I just feel like that's like he like needs to get energy out.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Are you sure you want that though?

[Host]

I really do. We prefer drums. Cuz he's more into just hitting her.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Like he just me right now. And so I'm like, can you abuse a drum set? So I'm really. I'm like pushing. Like he like doesn't care. He's like, I don't want to do this. I'm like, no, you should play drums. Like, this is so sick. Like, I'm showing him like so many drum sets.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Photos of Tommy Lee straight up.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I'm like, Tommy Lee, Travis Barker. I'm like anybody. I'm like really pushing it. Like, I would rather just listen to drums all day and be punched in my face.

[Host]

Do you all still stay in the Lower east side or you live in.

[Jackson]

Yeah, yeah, I live. Like, yeah, I live right on.

[Host]

Oh word.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I live. I live above a landmark location. But it would Dox yourself.

[Host]

Don't dox.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I'm an. I'm a neighborhood guy.

[Jackson]

Like right there on Delanceian island too.

[Host]

Oh word.

[Jackson]

Like by Congi Village on the other corner. Like the northwest corner, like above the subway.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great corner.

[Jackson]

I remember like going to school. I would like be looking out the window for the M15 and then I would see it and like run downstairs and run across the street and like hop on the bus.

[Host]

Yo, the craziest thing, that corner. I never like, could see it. See it. Like, I'd always hang out at Procell or at Congi Village. And then when we shot Boogie, we shot it at Procell. So we got on the rooftop caddy corner to what Ripple Room is now and shot down. I'm like, yo, this intersection of Delancey is insane. That's an il to grow up. Except when that crab boil place moved in. That must have your up.

[Jackson]

Yeah, I mean, it was already kind of. Cuz the Subway sandwiches downstairs just smell like bread.

[Host]

Yo, that's the worst smell ever.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

And that's also the worst Subway. They're so rude in there, by the way. I really am passionate about that. I hate them in there. They're just rude and mean people. Sorry. No, I feel so passionately like, I love Subway and they're just so mean for no reason.

[Host]

No, this is what I love about the show too, is like, we very, very New York centric and like mad publicist center shit. We're like, I don't know what to talk to your people about because I'm just like, we. We can talk about blocks. Yeah. And the pot is for people that know these people.

[Jackson]

Prosperity Dumpling. For real?

[Host]

Yeah, definitely. I miss them.

[Jackson]

Me too.

[Host]

All the dumpling spots are not as good anymore. They all buy frozen.

[Jackson]

No, literally. I remember my dad would give us like $5 for like the week and be like, make it, make it, make it work. And so me and my brother would just like scrape up some quarters and go to Prosperity Dumpling. Yeah, it was always lit.

[Host]

The first article of clothing I ever bought her was a North Dumpling T shirt.

[Jackson]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I still have it.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

Yeah, I need to cop the dumpling spots.

[Host]

Yeah. North Dumpling got really good merch.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah, they're the best. And they're really cute and.

[Jackson]

Yeah, just.

[Host]

I don't know, I could see you doing a show in a North Dumpling shirt.

[Jackson]

Yeah, I should do that.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

Good call.

[Host]

Yes. That really sucks to like live on top of a Subway. Yeah, I got you, I got you, I got you. Subway really does smell like an airport. It's like airport bread.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Subway fell off. I'm going to say. I'm going to go.

[Jackson]

It's coming from the guy who loves Jersey Mike's.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

All right, well, listen, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out. When I was in high school, I thought Subway was the shit to the point where my mom at Christmas would get me a Subway gift card. I don't know who else can claim that.

[Host]

Like, that's crazy.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

This was. I once. I once went to a Subway at the time, and the person making my sandwich was like, damn, that looks fire.

[Host]

Meatball sauce. I ate a lot of Subway meatball stuff. Okay.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Did you have like a, like, your order?

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Like, blt? All the food. Peppers, like avocado, Italian herbs and cheese, no question.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Toasted.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Toasted.

[Host]

Okay.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Must I know some people don't go toasted at Subway. And that's the maker break. If you toast your at Subway, you're getting a good sandwich.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Well, if you don't toast it, you're gonna get, like, salmonella. I'm, like, looking at that.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

You have to cook it. You do.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

But then something. I don't know. It was like after the Jared, and it was just like it. But the quality dropped like crazy.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

He has a homie who looks identical from to Jared. Wouldn't that be like the worst, like, doppelganger to have?

[Host]

He gets so mad because I go, yo, you a Puerto Rican Subway Jared. And that's just usually, like, he won't text me for like, another week. Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

He needs buffer. But I've moved on. I. I think my air is over, though. But I went through this brief era this past year where I was, like, standing Jersey Mike's like, Jersey Mike guy. I was like, I was dying on the hill. Like, I was going into.

[Host]

Brother likes Jersey Mike's. You the only other person I know that.

[Jackson]

Folks, we got to Chicago and we were all like, oh, let's go get, like, a hot dog, because we're in Chicago. And he's like, all right, see you guys later. I'm going to go to Jersey Mike.

[Host]

That's fucking crazy. I like that. You dirt bag, though. You're a fucking dirt bag.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You know what? I had to go. I had to get it Mike's way. Yeah, you know, I saw it. But here's the thing. Here's what?

[Jackson]

Salt and pepper.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Exactly. But we were at the airport, like, recently. Like, was it on our way to, like, Australia or something? I think we were going to Australia and we were, like, stopping over in LA and there was a Jersey Mike's in the airport. And I was like, well, come on, you know, And I overshot it because they didn't have, like, they didn't have their usual sizing. Like, usually you can get a full or half or something. And I kind of got like, Two big sandwiches.

[Jackson]

Literally, I quote, I should have gotten a hamburger.

[Host]

I kind of want to travel with you now, though, just to see what you eat. Like, one time, like, we did an episode for. For Tony Bourdain on. He had this show called the Layover, and he's like, eddie, invite a friend and go eat somewhere and we'll shoot it. So I invited Prodigy from Mobb Deep at the time. We go to noodle town. We're eating, and he's like, yo, this Chinese food different. I was like, well, what's your favorite Chinese food? He goes, bro, the Mongolian beef at PF Chang. I was like, yo, because it really is. The Mongolian beef at PF Changs goes crazy.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I haven't thought about that front on it.

[Host]

Like, yeah, I tear up Panda Express when I'm traveling. Like, I will. I will eat that.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

But. And Subway, my order was always the grilled chicken with the bacon and the cheese and the peppers and olives and then vinegar. I would hit it with the vinegar. But I really. I tore up Subway all the way until they introduced the multigrain bread. And then I was like, yo, I feel like something's up.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Multigrain bread.

[Host]

It was.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

It was that a little bit of the pedophilia. Yeah, it was like that mixed together. It was like a bad hit.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

Jared from somewhere. That is like an island going on.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah, there's files. I'm sure.

[Host]

So what'd you eat in Chicago?

[Jackson]

So I like to roll the dice. You know, I'd be getting sushi at the airport.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's more W. To Jersey, might, I.

[Jackson]

Will say, Benito Juarez. Mexico City airport, Goated.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Wow.

[Host]

Sushi. There was fire. Fire.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You would not believe it.

[Jackson]

You would not believe how good it was.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Wow.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Okay. I'm unbelievable. I actually do think that in. When you're flying from Miami to New York, whatever that terminal is, I don't know the name of it, but they have the best Cuban food in Miami. Sandwich.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You know the one where you take the tray.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yes. Fired. It's the best Cuban food in Miami. And I'm like, why is it at the airport? Like, it's so good. Sometimes I'm like, I go to Miami and I cannot wait to just come back so I can get the food at the airport.

[Host]

I got to go early, cuz I always take a fat after going there. But it's very good.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's everywhere. They got.

[Host]

They got the fried potato balls, and it's so good.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I really will find the name of it to shout them out.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

But it's fire after a long night in. Morning at Club Space. You just want to hit that airport.

[Jackson]

Catch me at the airport. Sandwich, please.

[Host]

Y' all go on tour now, right? You're opening for Harry Styles?

[Jackson]

Is it in July?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

We're gonna do, I think, five shows with him in Brazil.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Come to Brazil.

[Host]

We really will, honestly. We should go to Brazil, Harold.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

And then we're trying to go to Brazil.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I've been trying to convince him for, like, a year because I just think.

[Host]

She'S gonna go to Brazil and never come back. Like, she's gonna find a woman in Brazil and just be fed to the mattress.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

You can, like, tap into, like, your Akashic records or, like, you have, like, a past life or something. Okay, well, you can, like, figure out, like, whatever. You're, like, born on earth in this body, but, like, maybe you had a different life before. I just feel like I was, like, supposed, like, in a different life or in this. I'm still connected.

[Host]

Yeah. I think in another life, you had a just fat ass in Brazil.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

In this life, I got no ass because my ass was so fat on.

[Host]

The front this time.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

They gave you titties?

[Jackson]

No ass.

[Host]

But I think you'd, like, find your past life self and just stay with her.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Brazil.

[Host]

So we haven't gone. But I'm down, I'm down, I'm down.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

So we're excited.

[Host]

We're in a good place in our country.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

So that's in July. That's in July, yeah.

[Jackson]

Then we have, like, our headlining tour in April in. In the U.S. and then after that, UK and Europe.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Wow. You guys have a big year.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Our agents are trying to get paid, you know.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

There's a lot of airport eating that is on the table.

[Jackson]

And I'm always going sushi wherever I go.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I like that.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

I don't know. Also, like, however it's worked out, like. Like, we still don't have enough points to, like, be in the lounge.

[Jackson]

And I'm like, how I know?

[Host]

No, you gotta. You know what you gotta do is you tell them, I do not fly sitting up. That's what I used to do on the rise. Do not fly sitting up. You'll get points so fast.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Whoa.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell them you have a herniated disc. I do not fly sitting up. I have sciatica. It hurts me.

[Jackson]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like, I got a note from my doctor. So everyone fly me. Gotta fly me laying down. Yeah, yeah. And then the points go crazy.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

And then when you ask me to go somewhere I go, me too.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Have a thorn in my ass.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

They're like, she'll be.

[Host]

She got scoliosis. Got scoliosis.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I don't have any ass.

[Jackson]

I can't sit in that chair.

[Host]

You can't sit fly sitting up.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Like, my ass is bony.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Hurts.

[Host]

You need a lot of ass to sit up straight.

[Jackson]

It's true.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

Have to get a BBL in Brazil.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Straight up. I honestly, I'm going to. I'm going to start getting fat. And then when we go to Brazil, I'm getting a bbl.

[Jackson]

We both just come back with, like, huge fat asses.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Just huge fat asses. He's going to be. I'm going to be like, oh, my.

[Host]

Going to lunch.

[Jackson]

See you later.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

And he's gonna pick me up. I'm just gonna be like. Just like a full body, like, fa.

[Host]

Okay, babe. Incredible.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

His dream come true.

[Host]

So good. And then, yo, I saw in the press release to the homie, Kenny Beats. Is he got a new name now. He's form artist, formerly known Kenneth Bloom. Yeah, Kenneth Bloom. He sounds like a literary critic now. Yeah, yeah. I was like, damn, homie, flipped the.

[Jackson]

The name Professor Bloom.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The greatest Shakespeare literary critic, this guy named Harold Bloom. Kenny.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Is Luke his real name, though? Like, is his government Kenneth.

[Host]

Oh, that's a government name. I thought it was like a, Like a literary alias.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I did think it was like Huckleberry Finn. No, I think, yeah, I think he was alias Kenny Beets. Now. He's just.

[Host]

I like that. I like that for Kenny.

[Jackson]

Me too.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah.

[Host]

How'd you guys link up?

[Jackson]

He had, like, DMed us on Instagram, like, I think the year before last. And, like, we never ended up meeting up. But then we were in LA for Coach and our managers were like, oh, like, remember that guy Kenny? He hit you up. You guys should go, like, say hi and meet him at his studio. And we were like, okay, like. And we just thought we were gonna, like, go have a coffee, say what up and dip. And then, like, we were there and he was like. We were hanging for a little, and it was chill. And he was like, you guys trying to cook right now? And we were like, I mean, yeah, fuck it. Cause we were kind of. We had been working on kind of another album here, but we were a bit stuck on it. And so we had just told the label, like, I don't think we're gonna have anything this year. Like, I don't know. We're stuck. We don't really have anything right Now. And so then we, like, made two songs on the first day, and we're like, wait, this is fire. And then we, like, literally were supposed to go to our signing party with Sony, who we had just started working with, and we called him. We were like, guys, you can't come. We're cooking right now. And then Kenny was like, yo, I'll clear my schedule next week if you guys want to, like, do this. And we were like, okay, fuck it. Yeah, let's do it.

[Host]

That's what's up.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah. The crazy thing is, like, we didn't really know that much about him going in. It was like. Because I don't even think he. Messages on Instagram. I think we didn't respond is. Or maybe we might have, but I don't remember. I kind of remember, like, maybe our manager being like, hey, you should. You should get back to this, or whatever. But. But we, like, when we. When we went to his place, her and I weren't that familiar.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

And I remember we were, like, hanging, and he had just finished the Geese album, but it, like, wasn't out yet, so that he was like, I just wrapped this record, and, like, it's kind of wild, you know? So he played the Geese album.

[Host]

I remember.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Her and I were like, well, this isn't, like, rap, you know, because we thought he was, like, rap guy. But it was. It was. It's so kismet how everything happened, because it was funny at the time, because, as I said, like, this was way before even that Geese album came out. So it wasn't even, like, he was like, top of dome for everyone.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

You know, whatever. But I think it ended up being, like, the perfect odd couple, you know, because he's such. He's an amazing producer, you know, obviously, like, he's, like, a genius. And just, like, the three of us all, I think, pushed each of us outside of our comfort zones, you know, in a way.

[Jackson]

Yeah, totally.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

He'd be like, you know, I'd be pushing for house stuff, and he'd be like, I don't know. You do the house hat thing.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah. Like.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

But I'd be like. But then on another song, I was like, all right, just give me that fire trap beat in the breakdown. You know what I mean? Like, and it's. We could feed off each other again.

[Host]

It's, like, organic. It makes sense. You're combining styles. You're not overthinking it. And it's same. I wasn't the most familiar. I met. We met him at a Korean Barbecue. Because I'm friends with Leon Michaels.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

And they were making shit together. So Leon was like, yo, yo, yo. I'm gonna bring this dude, Kenny. I was like, all right, cool. And I, like, started listening after we, like, ate Korean barbecue. Because I was like, he's a good dude. I liked him. But Kenny's arc, to me, feel, reminds me a lot of Emile. Like, I was friends with Emil. He was doing, like, D12 and did Kanye. And then once he did Lana's record, it just went banana. Like, you couldn't predict where Emil was going to go next. It just. He went. Lana. He went twigs. He's, like, doing crazy. And I think Kenny's gonna do some shit like that.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, he's doing it.

[Jackson]

Yeah, he can do anything. He's so talented.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

He can do anything.

[Jackson]

Leon's the man, too. I've known him since I was, like, 16.

[Host]

Yeah. Oh, no way.

[Jackson]

Yeah. I was like, my. Like, I literally came to his studio after school when I was, like, 16.

[Host]

The one in Queens? Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackson]

Diamond mine. And then that was how, like, my first band kind of started. I, like, sang on one of his tracks back then. And, like, yeah, he's taught me so much. He's such a legend.

[Host]

Yeah. Leon is the secret killer. Like, I feel like he, like, grew up this, like, East Village jazz project.

[Jackson]

We went to the same school.

[Host]

Oh, really?

[Jackson]

Yeah, we both went to friends, and we had the same music teacher.

[Host]

Yeah. No, Leon, one of my best friends. I've known Leon for a minute, and it's just. It's cool because he's, like the secret killer producers bring in, but they're just like, yo, I think Leon will figure this shit out. And I've seen him with so many different artists just like, shred. Just absolutely fucking shred. I mean, he's with, like. I think he did the Claro album.

[Jackson]

Yeah, he did. Recently.

[Host]

And, like, he comes to a restaurant. Leon. Leon's my guy.

[Jackson]

Yeah, he's the best.

[Host]

Funny enough. You gotta ask Leon about the time we did Molly and listen to dub. Because we. I swear, we were. We were in Jamaica on Molly, watching old dub videos, and I turn to Leon and I go, yo, bro, you ever feel like you, like, God just touched you? He goes, I feel it. I feel it. Sometimes the hand of God just touches you. And I was like, when you play music, do you even think you're conscious? Like, no, it's just a hand of God, bro. And me and him were just like, hand of God. Leon was the first person I ever Spoke to about that phenomenon where it's like, I don't even claim the shit I make because I don't think I did it. It. I just black the out. And it's just like whatever is in the universe, it's like.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

No, he's. That. That's my guy.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

I just. He did a show at Forest Hills, like, last month, and I sang with them.

[Host]

Oh, word?

[Jackson]

Yeah. It's so fun.

[Host]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Leon's the best, man.

[Jackson]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. I gotta be in the street more with you.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

I was gonna say. I feel like we need to go out.

[Host]

We need to go out, listen to more music. We just need to hit the babysitter service more because we need to go.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Host]

I'm like, missing beyond shows.

[Jackson]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That's why I'm like, finding out about it right now is a bummer to me because I'm like, we would have with that.

[Host]

I saw it and I didn't send it to you. Was it the Big Crown Records one?

[Jackson]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. It was at first, Hills. It was like Al. Michael's affair.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

I love that Michael's affairs guys are such legends, dude. They're like. I literally look up to them so much and feel like I've learned so much from them.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

Over the years.

[Host]

I haven't learn because I'm just always dumbing out with them. We got a race war. Somebody came out of a bar in Chinatown and called us all chinks. And then I was like, what? And we just got into fighting. It ended up in the ARCS video. Like, if you look at this ARCS video, there's a fight in Chinatown.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

What ARCS video is that?

[Host]

Lose My Mind.

[Jackson]

I sang on one of the songs on that album.

[Host]

Oh, which one?

[Jackson]

Nature's Child.

[Host]

No way.

[Jackson]

I'm like, mad quiet in the background. But, you.

[Host]

Know, I'm saying, when we saw your bios, like. Yeah, I think we, like, have been in all the same spaces.

[Jackson]

For sure.

[Host]

It's great. It's great. But I wish you guys the best of luck, you know? Like, when's your next show?

[Unnamed Male Musician]

It's a good question.

[Jackson]

When is our next show? I think it's the April one, right? Yeah, like, our show show. Because we do, like, DJ sets sometimes, and we're doing. We're gonna do some, like, in store stuff in the UK in March.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jackson]

But then our free. Our next, like, tour. Tour with, like, shows is April.

[Host]

Okay. Where in New York?

[Unnamed Male Musician]

No, it's like, somewhere else. I don't think we're playing New York for, like, a little minute, actually, because we just did Brooklyn Steel.

[Jackson]

I think we're gonna have a release party for.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Jackson]

On the 27th of March. You guys should come.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Wow.

[Host]

Yeah. Y' all ever. Y' all ever just do, like, a DJ set party? Like, if we wanted to do.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Oh, we run that. Yeah, we're available for weddings.

[Host]

Maybe we do the Bow House opening.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

That'd be sick.

[Host]

That'd be fly. Could. I feel like we would just set it off.

[Unnamed Male Musician]

Yeah, 100%.

[Unnamed Female Musician]

That would be a lot of fun.

[Host]

We'll call Leon.

[Jackson]

Wait, I'm hyped for Bow House. What's good with it?

[Host]

Yeah, no, we.

[Jackson]

What's the menu? What's the thing?

[Host]

I mean, it's going to be boughs a lot of, like, for lunch, bows, beef noodle soup. But at night, we're going to get a cart and push, like, sweet potato kanji around, and everyone gets unlimited kanji. And we have, like, mad small dishes, sautes, stir fries, roasted whole fishes.

[Jackson]

But, like, wait, it's on the same side of the street as Mogador. Same side, Mind to the left.

[Host]

Yeah, exactly. So we should do that. That'll be. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys for having us shout out Jersey Mike's.