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Yo, this is the day that we have been waiting for, that the fans have been waiting for. The most requested guest in the history of Canal Street Dreams. The most mentioned person on this podcast, the one, the only Adrian Dizza Deucemanian is in the building.
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What up, yo?
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This. This guy, legendary DJ Liz.
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Which one do I look at?
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You can look at all of them. They're all your fans. You can. All of them.
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You talk in your face is like 4K.
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I just got to do the CV for you. Like, live Wednesday night, legendary Miami DJ True co founder Andrew Skate Shop. All right. Founder of the Versus Armor Very special watches, which we talk about every episode. The founder and most importantly, he was originally the first bot in our fantasy league, the Latrell Sprewell Invitational, and was unmasked at Art Basel 2016. And then, like, the Arab dude in UN Prophet climbed up the ranks and became the commissioner of all of our fantasy leagues after a historic coup in. Was it 2022 was the coup?
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To be honest, the details of the coup are vague to me, but I remember.
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Yeah. 2021, 2020 21, 2022. A coup was staged.
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I'm a puppet.
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I'm a puppet leader Disa became the commission, propped up. You got take the hits for you.
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Got you and Mills.
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Yeah, we were like the Corsican gang that took over. And then we propped you up. It was like, yo, we need the Lebanese king controlling this league.
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That's right.
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Yo, thank you. Thank you for coming.
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Thank you for having me.
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Guys, we are your biggest fans.
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We are. We shout you out every episode.
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That's sick.
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If an episode goes by where we don't shout you out, it's weird. I feel like the juju on the episodes off.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, just. I even just keep talking about me. It's pretty.
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I. I have to, like, you know, as a feature of being. Hosting a podcast, I have to glaze every guest. But I have to say, I really enjoyed that this time.
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I really. It's really authentic with you, though.
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Glazing is sick. Yeah, that's. I love to glaze. Yeah.
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We've never even lived in the same city, but I swear to God, like, you're just. You're just a fixture in our lives, in our home, like, at all times.
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Dude, the cheat code to being the most important person in, like, every male 25 to 40 something is to just be, like, the commissioner of your fantasy football league, which is pretty true, you know, Pretty much.
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Are you gonna fill the league?
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Yeah, I'm not even worried.
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I'm not even worried about that.
C
Still seeking your first. It was a tenth, then it was in a ninth, then it was an eighth. That it was like down to it.
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There has been like, there has been some situations in our league. Were down some people, but we'll be all right.
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People ran off on the plug. I had to pay somebody's league. League dues.
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Yeah, yeah. You know.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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People ran off. It went from a 12 team league to a 10 team league.
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I think. I think basketball makes people very emotional, you know, when it comes to the league.
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Do you think it's quality over quantity?
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Yes. I would rather be in a league where everybody is really good and nobody even talks just because I know that, you know, the league is good. The perfect scenario is like a really good league with everybody like talking all the time. But sometimes, you know, you got to take what you can get.
C
Okay. And your duties as commissioner just because, like, I still don't know. I know you're.
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Well, you're the only woman that has ever been in the chat.
C
I have removed myself from the chat. We were beefing a little bit like in the last two weeks. So I kept removing myself as like punishment to you, even though you don't care.
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Sick.
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Yeah. I was like, well, then I'm not going to be in the chat.
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But luckily Mills keeps bringing you back into the chat.
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Yeah. Because I keep seeing things that I need to send in the chat now.
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I think like my. My job as commission in this league is. Is more so to just make sure that Eric Duncan isn't doing some flagrant trades. Yes, that's really it. You know, after that, like, it's not really like my league. It is my. I'm the commissioner now, but I'm not the oldest person there.
C
Yeah.
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The oldest members. So it's like I have to kind of make sure everybody's happy.
C
You're underplaying it because you set draft day right. Like, you set the date and the time. That's a big deal.
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No, that's easy.
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There's chatter. No, but there's always chatter about, like.
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When is it like a running.
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When's the draft running?
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A ding.
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I will be out.
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Still don't know when the draft is.
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To the point where I have adopted the. This whole. To like, I'll be out with my girlfriends and I'll be like, yo, when's the draft?
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Like, y. That's pretty funny.
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And then yo, at the end of.
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Everything, do you put like weird accents on top of Your.
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Yeah, I'm so. It's.
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You're the best.
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We put Chuck in the league now. So Chuck English is in the league. And he was listening. He was watching us type yesterday. He goes, yo, how y' all got the different fonts or am I cooked? We're like, yo, you're cooked.
B
The funniest thing is we added my. My brother in law Stevie to the league like, two years ago, and he didn't really quite understand, or I don't know, maybe he did, but he thought we were doing, like a Cam Newton thing where, like, Cam writes all his captions with, like, the craziest letters possible. So he started doing that, and we're like, yo, no, it's not like, you don't have to write every message in, like, the craziest.
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How long do you think that takes doing every letter like that?
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Forever.
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It's just 10 years of inside jokes and, like, it doesn't even make sense unless you're, like, living in this chat. But I think the biggest challenge for you is. Is, like, we get like, like seeing people or cool guys in the chat. And Dinks is kind of like the dark lord, I think, of the league.
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Yeah.
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And Dinks is basically like, I'll be your friend if you trade me your best players. And so when dudes start to have whack teams, like, around the trade deadline, you can see they just try to trade Dinks. They're good players so that Dinks will, like, be friends with them.
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I think. I think Eric is so sick in that way because he's, like, ancient, right? He's old as hell. He's been through it all. Like, he doesn't even care about anything. He's seen every brand, every dj, everything that you could possibly live through, and he's just like, who are you? You want to trade me a player? Cool.
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Yeah, even. Really, he don't care. He has access to everything. But it's like, I just want wembanyama off you for nothing.
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For nothing.
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And then there's dudes that are like, yo, you think if I. One time a guy actually asked me was like, yo, you think if I trade Mills this player, he could get me passes to Felix Art Fair? I'm like, no, that's not how this works. That's collusion. So dudes are always trying to, like, trade players for, like, real life benefits. And we're like, now the fantasy has to.
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Right, Right.
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Supersede.
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You don't think, though, there's alliances.
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It's. It doesn't matter. There is.
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There was an Asian alliance.
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There was alliances, but it's very. It's just everything has to stay ethical.
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Okay, there was a Miami alliance and an Asian alliance, and then like a New York one.
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These are fabricated, but just for like, just.
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Just so I know, what are the. What are the ethics of, like, just the, The. The G code of a fantasy league?
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Think about three. I. I think. I think the. The number one thing is to, like, play the game, like your lineups, you know, like, if you're not setting your lineups, like, you're wasting our time, like, just die, you know, ruining the game for us. Don't do, like, funny trades. Come on. Like, you're ruining the game. And then that's kind of it. There's really. No, that's it. Set your lineup.
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Gets mad when I remind him that Stevie's lacing his sister.
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Right.
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Okay, that's.
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That's my brother in law, so, you know. Okay.
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I mean, I could see that not everybody's like, like, respect to him.
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You know, he made it to the fam.
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I like that.
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But there's crazy, like, in the football league, like there. The. The football league that he got me into with the Miami Football League.
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That's with like the dog breeder and. Yeah, okay, I just. I know, like, just little bits and pieces, but yeah, there's.
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Last two years ago, someone from our. I've had this like, fantasy football league since I was like, I don't know, 19 or 20, with like, all my Miami friends. And someone dropped off and I knew that he had been wanting to play fantasy football somewhere. And I was like, all right, like, here there's a league. It's just full of, like, really random regular friends of mine that are like, my actual good friends, you know, you want to join? He was like, all right. And then he came into the league and I'm like, this is probably like an element where nobody. This is probably one of the few elements where Eddie walks into, like, these types of settings and like, nobody actually really knows who he is.
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They don't give a.
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They're just like, who is this random agent dude? Like, cool.
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I. I really think it's like your favorite chat.
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And. And then it's just been like a funny balance of like, people kind of like vetting him a little bit. And then now he's. He's two years in, so it's all good now.
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But yeah, yeah, the first year was fun because it was. It is like one of the few space I went and I was just getting Roasted. Like they would all make fun of this dude, Mingo's mom. And then like I made fun of Mingo's mom and he's like, yo, you're not allowed to make fun of Mingo's mom yet. And I was like, damn, I gotta earn the right to make fun of Mingo's mom. Rip, rip, rip, rip.
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Mingo's mom, rip.
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It's like, but there. It's beautiful to be in this league.
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Like, what is this? This is deranged.
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It's beautif beautiful to be in the league.
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Cuz they've been friends for like 20 years. Everyone, they're like all like actual.
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Some, I mean like, like some of them have been friends literally their whole like since they were like three or four years old, you know. So it's. It's just like, yeah, it's very, very wholesome place. And it's cool though because like everyone in that league, like we've all known each other since teenagers and pretty much all of us have kind of like in our own past gone on to like do things. So it's like we've actually all just grown up together. Nobody's like falling off because everyone kind of has like somewhat of a stable job or like a stable life. And it's cool to see. It's like just like. And this is like good fantasy league goals.
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Yeah, yeah, it's fantasy league goals, dad goals. And it's like sometimes you like a downtown New York chat and people like flexing like, check out this G wagon. Check out this whatever in that chat.
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That's me.
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Yeah, but like some, some cats. I mean a lot of people in there are like, yo, what's the better value? Like the Jeep Grand Wagoneer or the like lucid.
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And I was like a good car advice via this chat.
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Yeah, and that's, that's the chat. I'm like, oh, people like review Costco products in this chat. Yeah, yeah, there's a dude, the Costco guys. I'm just like, this is like real life shit. I like to be around.
C
I yearn for this like just male camaraderie. Like I don't have a chat with. I mean, you have your chat with your friends, is it. I mean, I don't know, I can't gender it, but just like personally, there's nothing that bonds anybody that I've ever met to be my friend. The way that sports just like you will always have this chat. Like you said, like it's this one thing that has kept you guys together. And talking.
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My girl has this chat that she's been. It's like, same with her friends from when she was literally, like, 10 years old.
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Yeah.
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And it still goes, like, it goes off every day and, like, for forever. I was like, this is literally the same thing as my chat. But no, they're talking about this wholesome all the time.
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Yeah.
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Because, like. Like, no, it's not the same.
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Yeah. This is not. Like, nobody is, like, insulting each other. Then they're. They're like, look at what I did today. I got my nails done.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my God. Yeah. In ours. It's like, Eddie will be like, yo, like, check this out. They're like, wow, that's trash. Like, you're a dumbass. Like, this sucks.
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And you, like, need that to keep you humbled as a person.
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I feel it's, like, not the kindest, but it works.
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Yeah. That's why I, like, just getting a little glimpse of it into the other, like, you know, old chat. I'm like, oh, the boys are talking shit today.
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It's the best. And then. And then it's because you do a lot of shit. Like, you know, you'll be working with Stone Island. You'll be doing the watches. Hodinkee. Like, I went to a Hodinkee event, and I. I met, like, the editor of Hodinkee and, like, oh, you know Dizza. And I was like, oh, the Commish. And they're like, what are you talking about? And I was like, yo, ask him if he's gonna fill the league. She's like, wait, Ask Dizza if he's gonna fill the league. And I was like, ask him. Ask him. But it's just like, it's cool because I meet mad people through business that know you and work with you, and I'm just like, I do love that. I'm like, he's my commissioner.
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Yes. Shout out to Malaika.
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Yeah. Shout out Malaika from Hodinkee.
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Yeah.
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Fantastic.
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He's a legend.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean.
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But yeah.
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I mean, that segues us into the watches thing. Like, that's a great story.
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Yeah.
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Like, I read it in Hodinkee. I read it in High Snobiety. But as a customer and as your homie was funny, I like the way you did it because you didn't just, like, announce, like, oh, I got this business. Whatever. He just went in the fantasy chats and was like, boys, anyone want watches? Hit me. I was like, why would I cop a watch from you? We were all roasting him, and then the Business comes out, we're like, oh, this is like the premier brand for buying vintage watches. Like, Dizza just informed us through the fantasy chat.
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Well, I'll take that. There's a lot of, lot of important legendary vintage dealers that, you know.
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Yeah, but you're our guy, you know, so you don't got to be that humble. You're our guy.
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No, I think, I think for me, I, I, when I, like, came up on a little bit of money from DJing, I, I used to live in an apartment in Little Havana that my friend, I used to live there by myself, but then my friend Pace Rock moved in there with me, and we were just like, looking up watches because I was like, yo, I, I finally made, made some money, like, what should I buy? And then I just went to, like, the Miami jewelry district and went to this dude, and I just bought, like, the cheapest datejust like you could buy, you know, I was like, I got my Rolex and then I made, I actually, like, made a little bit more money. And I, and I remember my experience was so whack, like, dude didn't even look at me in my eyes type of thing. And then I went to these other dudes who actually really kind of were the first dealers to be nice to me. These dudes, Sam, and I'm gonna forget his name, but they had a company back in the day called Gold watchco, and they were mad cool. They, they, like, they were just, like, being nice to me, but they, they.
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Were definitely like, it's not like Hillstone that tries to make you take your hat off.
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Right? Right.
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Also hates kids. Get ready for that.
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That's whack. But long story short, I, I, I, I bought a second and third watch from them, and they were. The experience was always cool, but, But I, I think I, I was starting to kind of, like, get more into, like, rare and detailed watches and whatever, and I, and I bought this random watch, and then I, I took it to a space where I met Juan, who's now my partner, and he was kind of like the first dude to, to really, like, tell me, why do you want to buy that watch? Instead of, oh, yeah, yeah, buy that watch. He'd be like, why do you want to buy that watch? I'm like, ah. He's like, that watch is trash. Like, you don't want to buy that watch for this, this reason and not because, like, it's a whack watch financially or anything. He's like, no, that. The dial is not right. The bracelet is incorrect. It doesn't match this. And. And, like, you know, I had never really thought about that in that way, and that, like, opened my eyes to, like, oh, I can't just be buying, you know, something that costs thousands of dollars and not really, like, care about the details. And after I met Juan, that's kind of when my perspective on vintage watches, or just watches, period, changed.
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And.
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And over time, I. I started buying more watches, different watches, whatever. And eventually, yeah, we started versus, I think. I think once I started getting into watches a little more thoroughly, a lot of my friends would ask me, like, their opinion on certain watches or what, you know, and I would just give them advice or I would introduce them to Juan or whatever it might be. And then eventually, I think they kind of just trusted me to, like, help them find watches for them. And at the same time, Juan had. Maybe. Juan, I had just kind of spoken loosely about maybe doing something together, and it kind of just happened at this, at the correct time. And, yeah, that's how versus came along. And then I. And then actually Mingo, from our chat was our first customer.
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Oh, no way.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And it. That was it. After that. I mean, you know, Mike. Mike, Juan. Mike and I kind of came together with our other friend Nate, and we. We kind of just like, like, put a little plan together. And. And. And Sage was also involved with us. We all kind of were just like, in a group chat, just spitballing bullshit about watches, and we're like, yo, let's. Let's do something. Let's try something. And it kind of so far is working out. So.
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Yeah. And I have this, like, deep meta thought about this, because I'm like, I think about shit like this way too much because we all love streetwear, right? And it's interesting because I feel like streetwear, we all still celebrate. We all do the thing. Like, it's just what we are and what we wear. We're always going to be these dudes, but, you know, like, how a lot of quote unquote, streetwear basically transition to, like, dudes with loafers and socks and, like, shorts and things like that. And they're like. It's interesting how that happened to, like, kind of streetwear, men's fashion. But I like that you guys kind of took OGs from streetwear and a style and applied the ethos and all of the esthetic to watches, which I don't think, like, those two groups ever really collided like that. Besides, when supreme did the, like, fuck it watch. Yeah, Mike has to.
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Yeah. I mean, I might be mistaken, but I think actually Mike worked on that watch.
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No, it did. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He did.
B
So I think, I think the cool.
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You know what I'm saying though?
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I think, I think the cool thing about how we kind of came together is, is that Mike and I kept explaining to Juan and Juan understood it and for sure was like, yeah, that makes sense. But like we, we would go to places, whether it's Tokyo or Milan or whatever, and we would just kind of like, we'd have a hard time like having a good experience and at the same time we're like, yo, there's also so much opportunity in this, in this watch world and there's so much that we could do to kind of get our heads more into it, you know. And Mike, honestly working with him was cool because like I would have these ideas similar to when Andrew came about. I would have these ideas and press would kind of like make them happen. Mike also would make them happen. And, and Mike has so much like, he, he likes, he's a watch enthusiast already. You know, he likes watches. So his references were pretty elite. So even when we came about the branding, how we were gonna do stuff like post pictures in a certain way, talk message in a certain way, Mike kind of had like that already thought through even before I had to explain or even we had to like have conversations about it. So it was, it was, it's very easy to talk to like our customer base, which kind of is a little bit of like, you know, 25 to 45 year old people who maybe graduated from like streetwear or whatever it might be and are into like older shit, you know.
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Yeah. Just because I think men's contemporary fashion kind of like took over popular men's fashion, so to speak. I think it displaced street culture and street wear as like the go to aesthetic. But I like how the aesthetic and the culture just continues to move and shift and evolve and moving into a different space. Like watches, I think was really smart because like street culture, it's never going to go away. Like, this is, this is the people's champ type of aesthetic.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah. Watches, watches are also just like, they're so like I, they're so like unnecessarily complex sometimes in, in the collecting side of it. It's, it's it. People, people have never really rated a collector who's just like, yo, that watch is cool. I'll take it. It's like, yo, that watch is cool. This dial is this way because of and all. And these are like, everybody collects in a different way, is what I'm trying to say. And every way of collecting is important, but there's also space for people who just, like, want to collect a watch because it's sick. Yes, it looks cool.
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Yeah.
B
Diamonds are factory, and they're hard, you know, like. And I think people try. Tend to not rate that type of collector, but that's a collect.
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And.
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And I think, you know, opening the door for those types of people to feel comfortable coming to the showroom being like, y' all want it because it's hard, not because, like, you know, it's this from this era and, like.
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Or logically complex actor from the 80s.
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Wore it that, like, is like a, you know, has been an action movie. Whatever. It needs, like, the usual references as to why a vintage watch collector would collect watches. There's other references that are okay to have and okay to, like, put on too. And I think that's kind of what we are trying to help, you know.
C
But I think what you guys do really well is also, like. Like you said it was hard to find a good experience early on, and I feel like watches in the same way as art, sometimes you'll want to buy a piece or you'll want to buy a watch, and the person selling it is kind of like you.
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Yeah. Yeah.
C
It's not a good experience. And you guys offering that to just such a large group of people now, I think is really nice and invites more people into buy a watch that maybe were, like, intimidated. And then there's just, like, the whole thing. If you're buying retail, you'.
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You're.
C
You. You can't, like, walk into a Rolex and be like, I want this watch.
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I can.
C
You can. But so I think having somebody and then, like, having you guys, you're so knowledgeable, you can, like, guide somebody who maybe isn't like, I just want that one. They're like, why should I? Like, you can offer that.
B
Well, you know, I think. I think. I don't. I've never really actually, like, tried to buy a watch from the store because I've never really been interested in. In those. Um, but one thing that I will say is that the vintage space actually has a lot of people who are really good communicators about why, like, watches are important and why watches are good. Like Adam from Menta or, you know, like, Mike Nouveau is really good at communicating or explaining watches. And there's other OGs, like, like Eric Ku and. And. And, like, really important people in the world. Even in Europe like, there's just so many of them that I can't like. But I think that type of information is. Is. Is so important and dominated by these guys that are so good at explaining it. But there's also other information that hasn't really been, you know, cared for, I guess that hasn't been relevant in their type of world. And I think that's really what we're trying to speak to. So when people, like, come to our. Our showroom, it's important to let them see everything that we have and not.
A
Like, you know, but that's also what. What you do is that you select pieces from a POV of like, dudes like you or dudes like me or dudes like Mike, where, like, that's how you guys, I think, figured out that, like, AP Bamboo watch. You know, like, people had forgot about that AP Bamboo. I didn't know about that watch. I seen it on the Versus account. I'm like, you, yo, what is that? That's. I remember I called you immediately. I was driving through a hill and I barely had reception. Yeah. What is. What is this thing?
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
How much you flipping this for? And you were like, 40 for you, King. Like 39. You know, fuck you. But like, you know, you were telling me about it and like, how people had slept on it for so long and you guys had like, I think three out of like the only four available at the time or something like that. But I was just like. It was. I think what you guys are doing that you don't give yourself enough credit for is like, you are finding the watches that a guy like me from the culture we're from would like. That doesn't even know it exists.
B
Yeah, and I think. I think that's what. That's what we're trying to do is speak to that sort of customer. But also, you know, the crazy thing about these watches is, like, the customer like, okay, so you got to think about, like a person buying that watch in the 70s and 80s, like, probably the most unhinged person of their crew or like a person with like, insane swag or whatever it might be. And those types of collectors, like just his, though they kind of phased out watch it watches and collecting and what people were buying in vintage. They weren't even like, checking for those watches. A lot of those watches were just straight up melted, you know, like, they just like kind of disappeared or they're melted for gold or whatever. There were a lot of guy. A lot of dealers, guys and girls who. Who were holding on to Those who, like, kind of knew what they had, you know, like, there's. There's a guy in New York, guy, actually, Murillo55. He always has really interesting, cool, like, vintage, like, I would say jewelry pieces. And. And I think those people always existed. Those people. Those types of dealers have been here for a while. Maybe they just didn't have. They hadn't unlocked the customer that we have unlocked.
A
Yeah, that's. That's what it is.
B
And in a way, like, now, and what I love about the watch world, actually, now that I'm in it, is kind of how, like, willing to work. A lot of dealers are. You know, there's, like, super friendly with each other. Ultimately, we're all trying to break bread, you know, And Juan, obviously, who's been. Who's my partner, who's been a watcher for a really long time, he shields us from stuff, you know, sometimes, like, he's. He's doing a lot of the digging and research, but for the most part, like, people are like. Dealers are very willing to work and deal with watches as long as, you know, as long as you're not.
A
Well, what. That's. What I'm trying to say is that you guys do, and I really love watching, is that, like, you're creating a market for things that to the regular collector consumer has no value to the gatekeepers, the current gatekeepers. Certain things you guys identify don't have value, like the quartz watch, the Rolex, quartz watches. But because you come from a different culture with different values in a different pov, you're actually bringing an audience in a market to buy something that these fools thought had no value. And it's. It's fly. It's like when I wrote Fresh off the Boat for Random House. I mean, part of the reason I got the advance, I did was they told me, like, you're gonna bring an audience that doesn't read our books. And I think that's kind of what VS is doing with watch.
B
Sorry, I gotta adjust my. Nah, aging knees.
A
You know, I fed you a softball. You just whiffed. Oh, you didn't even swing it.
B
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
A
Carlos Beltran over here.
B
Yo, I'm. You know. No, honestly, I. I think. I think for us, it's been. It's been really sick to. To just get into this, into the space and learn. Like, dude, there's. I learn every day, like, watches I've never seen before, things I get, like, excited about. It's like. It's like you're you're digging for treasures, like, every day. And, like, things. Things that I literally cannot afford, that I'm like, oh, I need that. And sometimes, like, even having the business is like, a cheap way to just, like, get the watch that you want, kind of want, but can't afford, because, you know, now it's in stock, you know, justified to whoever, and it's. It's just. It's just sick, man. I really love doing it. I love what we've built. And it's. It's exciting.
A
Okay. When. When you first had bread, you got the watch that you got, but, like, when you really had money and you're like, I could go for the watch. Like, what was the penultimate, like, Holy Grail watch you could afford and got.
B
I don't. I don't. I didn't. I haven't had that yet. I think the only. The only watch that I've. That I've ever looked at and. And, like, I think about every day is a Saru gmt. Like, the first one that came out in, I believe, the 80s. Someone I know has it with a president bracelet and, like, factory diamond everything. I've never looked at a watch and been like, wow, this is like the most insane watch. Like, whoever wears this is like a cycle. And that needs to be me.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
And I think that's that. But the funny thing is, like. And it's not because, like, I want and need more things. Never satisfied. But it's just naturally, like, you get one thing and you're kind of like, all right, like, what's next? You know? No, I don't think anyone will ever be.
A
You know that customer I sent you last week, he was, like, trying to cop his friend a Daytona, right?
B
Oh, yeah.
A
And he's like, yo, he wants a Daytona. I'm like, yeah, he seemed like a Daytona guy, and he's. What's that mean? I was like, well, I mean, to me, there's just like. Like, when you're going to get that first big watch, like your 40th birthday, your 50th birthday, it's like, I feel like there's president dudes and there's Daytona dudes and then there's like, sub dudes or whatever. But I was just like. When I had paper, I was like, I'm getting the Tony Soprano all gold champagne dial. Like, I feel like you are a Prezi dude.
B
I am a Prezi dude. And I. I. Technically, we should say president, but, you know, Prezi dude. It's. I go back and forth Like, I love my favorite daily watch is a yellow gold submariner, nipple dots, a 16808 reference. And. But I. But every time I just get drawn back to presidents, my friend Liam McRae says they're the wackest watch that one could buy. And I'm like, you're so wrong. And. And it's like you have. We have these debates all the time. That's why it's so personal. He's someone that, like, I feel like, taste wise, idea wise. We're aligned on a lot of things except this one thing. And that just goes to show, like a Prezi guy or a Daytona guy or Patek or whatever. It could be anybody.
A
You know, I was reading the Heist of Bayou article and your whole crew, all of us, is like, Prezi. Like Angelo Copter watching me, Prezi. You know, like the one I saved, my brother, Prezi. It's just like it was never a thought. Like, I was never going to get the Daytona first. I was always going to get this.
B
I mean, the other thing that happened is, like, when we were going up or we were coming up, these watches were not this like, the expensive status symbol that they are now. Like a daytona, you know, 10 years ago was less, was 10,000. You know, it wasn't that much money. You know, neither was a president, I guess, but president was always seen as like a yellow gold Rolex, you know?
A
Yeah. And it was like JFK had one.
B
Yeah.
A
Tony Soprano had one. Like, if you were boss, you wanted to be the boss President. You're a president president, you know, and it's like, it's interesting now to see, like, younger dudes, you know, turning 30, turning 40. They're like, oh, I don't want to be seen as. I wanted to be the Daytona guy. I want to be the sub guy. It's just. It's interesting.
B
Yeah. I mean, look, to. To each their own. If you don't want to look hard, that's like your. That's your problem. Exactly.
A
If you beta, you beta.
B
What can I say?
A
Okay, if you could have, like, what. What's the watch that you've wanted or wanted?
C
I don't think about it this much. I think about bags. Yeah, watches are cool. I'm like, happy to have one.
A
Okay, what's the bag?
C
I mean, right now probably just like a Mini Royal Oak.
A
Oh, okay.
C
I like the mini. I think it's cute. Like, I would like that for a daily driver. Maybe the gold.
A
Sorry. I got you the 32, you know.
C
Sorry, sorry. No, but that's it. I don't lust for watches.
A
Like, tell us, what size is this? What size is the ones you don't remember? Is it 36, 4?
B
36.
A
36. Oh, 36.
B
Yeah.
A
Dang. I'm. Yeah. Oh, the mini is.
C
I have a small wrist, but the. The mini is really cute. So I think, like, if I was going to get a watch, it would be that or like a cool vintage Piaget. Like, I like sometimes how they're. They have like an emerald.
A
Like, I don't know, you guys got some good pjs. Like, just like.
C
I like, like an emerald stone. Just like cool vintage shit like that.
B
I think the. The. The coolest. The. The coolest thing that we do sometimes is like, try to play. Like, sometimes I'll literally buy a watch and. And I'll be like, oh, this is for this person. And like, maybe someone that's never even bought a watch. Like a friend that's never bought a watch before or whatever. Like, I remember I got a watch once, and I was like, this is for my friend a side. Like, this is his watch.
A
Yeah.
B
And I hit him up and he was like, this is my watch. And that was it.
C
Like that.
A
I was talking to a side at the same time I was at Emil's house for a barbecue, fourth of July, and he was talking to me about wanting a cop of Vacheron Constantine at the time. And then I think he plugged with you and then you put him onto something different.
B
Yeah, I had already sold him a vc, but he. He bought. He bought this really nice Rolex Cellini. Just very sick. But I guess sometimes, like, I'll buy a watch and I'll be like, this is for. For this specific person.
C
I really like that.
B
I like that almost more than. Than buying a watch for our stock or for myself, because I think it's just like. Like hunting for people and being right is like very rewarding.
A
You never buy me a watch.
C
I was gonna say, well, okay, if there was a watch that you could assign to him. He.
B
He doesn't like vintage. He likes to get him new out the box.
A
I only tell you that I buy. Vince, I only with you because you don't got boxes for your watch. Like, first of all, we're such good friends. I cannot give you too much credit. Like, this is the most I've ever glazed you in your life, you know? Pause.
B
Hell yeah.
A
But it's just like, I love. I love vintage. I just with you because you'll be in the chat being like, yo, boys, who wants to watch? I'm like, you don't even got boxes.
B
That's true.
A
Like, it's not a real insult. It's just a negative, you know?
B
I mean, some watches come with boxes, some don't watch.
A
You buying me, bro?
B
To be honest, I definitely. You're like. You're like a green stone dial type of dude.
C
I, you know, feel that as well.
A
That's. That's crazy.
C
The same thing. I always send him green stone dials, and I'm like, this. I do the same thing. I'm like, this is You. Like, this is a watch that you just need.
A
That's so crazy. You pulled that out of my head. Head. Because the one I want is the malachite.
C
Yeah.
A
Day date.
B
That's it.
C
Wow.
A
Damn. This really knows me. Damn. It's. The love is real.
B
Yeah, you know.
A
All right, all right, Dizzle.
B
We got.
A
I got nothing to do with the.
B
Gold with the green jade on your chain or anything.
C
It would just. But it would look good.
B
It would look good.
C
I don't know. I just think you're a gold guy. You're a green guy.
A
I'm a green. I'm a money green dude.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
You know, like, the whip was money green.
C
Yeah.
A
It's always been my. You know why? Because the first Care Bear my parents ever bought me was green.
C
You had a Care Bear?
A
Yeah.
C
That's adorable.
B
I love that.
A
And then because I'm a Pisces March.
B
No, I'm kidding.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. St. Patrick's Day. I was hitting the chat, you know.
B
Yeah, yeah. This Photoshop Eddie with the camera. This is. I don't care.
A
I got sensitive with this, and I get shot in the chat.
C
The Care Bear.
B
Yeah.
A
Never open up.
B
I like that. I like that.
A
Yeah. Message to men. Never open up to your homies. What happens?
C
The male loneliness.
A
All right, we got five questions for you. Rapid fire. Okay, this is a new segment. You're the first person I've ever done prep for. Okay, number one. What is your favorite watch to wear right now?
B
The one I have on which is this platinum day date. 1-801-18206. Reference.
A
Sure it's not stainless steel?
B
All right, you want to feel it? It's heavy.
A
Okay, you're a very intelligent man, so I'm gonna ask you this. What's the line on China versus America's economic tariff war?
B
Oh, man. China's a heavy favorite, I think.
A
Heavy favorite. What's. What's the number?
B
I don't. I can't Put a number to that. Because, like, if you were Vegas, probably like, minus 200.
A
I like that. I like that. I may take the America plus 200 money line, though, you know? All right, well, yeah, yeah, maybe. You know those trains.
B
I see how you guys build trains over there.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
I wouldn't bet against that, bro.
A
Terracotta robots.
B
This is crazy.
A
Okay, French or Lebanese food?
B
Dude, you know what? People give French food a lot of hate. French food is superior. It just is mad butter. Who doesn't like butter? Number one, steak, free. Might be, like, the best dish of all time. Number two, mushrooms. It's just. There's a lot of good French food and, like, this whole, like, eating the lean, chilling out, like. Nah, go to a brasserie, a good one, order the most exorbitant amount of butter, and tell me you have a bad meal. The problem with Lebanese food, as a Lebanese person, it can be hit or miss, and when it misses, it fucking misses, you know? But when you go to a good Lebanese restaurant or your grandma cooks it or whatever. Yeah. It's like the greatest shit. But generally, if I'm going out to eat, I'm probably going to pick a friend spot.
A
Damn, you really glazing the conqueror here.
B
What can I say?
A
Yeah, you like winners? You like winners? You like winners?
C
He likes a winner.
B
I mean, it's just.
A
I mean, that's a good hot take. That's a good hot take.
B
All right. People really hate on French food. I read somebody told me that I went to Paris, and they were like, the food was ass. I'm like, you're. You're dumb. You know? Like, how do you have a bad eating experience in Paris?
A
I will say I'm a big fan of, like, Burgundian food. Like, okay, like, country French food. That's my little stews.
B
Like, come on. They're sick.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Normandy has, like, really great ways of making veal. Yeah. The Basque Country. Come on.
A
There's good coca. Like, a real good cocaine. A real good beef bourguignon, like, and with Burgundian wine, I. I do feel wine is the penultimate thing that people have created that you put into your body. Like, did they catalog the. Lots of land? Like, I really, really do respect, like, how much attention French people pay to. To that.
B
Yeah. I don't drink, but I. I salute it.
A
Yeah. Salute. Salute. All right. Walrus rodeo or boy a day.
B
Damn. I mean, honestly, they're both great. They both have the same chef. I. The first. I mean, boy a day. Came first. It's really good. But obviously I'm a partner in walrus rodeo, so, you know, I'm a pick. But it's like, oh, I love them both. I love them both.
A
You know, both restaurants are shouted out in the new novel. They're great, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Alex and Lucci.
A
There is a Dizza character in the new novel coming out. There's a Dizza character. That's how much I love you.
B
Hell, yeah.
A
All right, Mary Kill, Ronnie Cycley, Harold Minor, Alonzo Morning.
B
Mary is. Is. Is obviously Alonzo Mourning. Dude. Kill. Is Harold Miner. Is Ronnie Cycley. Lebanese, you know, Salute.
A
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I could see you making out with Ronnie Cycling. You know.
B
Miami legend, though he's. He's still a Miami legend.
A
He is also a dj. Like, that would be a holy grail guest for us is Ronnie Cycling.
B
He's sick.
A
I love Ronnie Cycling. Yeah. I had a feeling you were gonna. You were gonna lace Ronnie Cycley and anything else you want to tell the viewers? Any final thoughts? Hot takes.
B
I don't. You know, I have one hot take that I've been testing out on people all the time that there's only one good drink on earth, and it's a Coca Cola.
A
Fruit punch, Gatorade.
C
No, it's a full sugar. It's a full sugar.
A
Cocoa.
C
When you.
B
When you sit outside at a restaurant and they bring you a Coca Cola with ice and a lemon. Yeah. There's no better drink on earth.
C
Somebody.
B
Every other drink in the world is just trying to catch up to that drink.
C
Yeah. Someone on the Internet said it was a fridge cigarette. And I was like, that me. That just spoke to me, and I was like, yes, that's. I sometimes am like, I need a Coca Cola in the way that I would eat a cigarette.
B
I mean, in a bottle. Come on.
C
In a glass bottle.
A
And then I'm such a bro. For me is lemon lime Gatorade.
B
Yo. But, like, considering Gatorade as an amazing drink is. You don't. That's Florida. Than you to, like, feed you electrolytes and, like, horrendous athletic moments.
A
When did you move to Florida? What age were you?
B
When I was six.
A
Oh, damn. You were there before me.
C
Can you imagine sitting somewhere, like. Like, paint the evening that it's like a beautiful night. You're sitting outside, you're at this, like.
B
You're like.
A
You're like.
C
The moon is. You can see the moon. The stars are. You're like, having this romantic moment, and you're like, yeah, I would love a glass of Gatorade, but, you know, this.
A
Shit true to me. Like, what do I have by the. On the nightstand?
B
Well, like, that's because you got, like, you know, stomach stuff.
C
He has, like, you're different person. If you were, like, living correct, it would be a Coca Cola.
B
I mean, I think, to be honest. And. And like, what food doesn't go well with Coca Cola?
C
Anytime I'm eating food, the first thought is, wow, I could really. A Coke would go amazing with this Chinese food.
A
Number one is Coca Cola. Chinese food. Coca Cola.
B
That's the go to drink.
A
You never been to every.
C
Every cuisine. Name one cuisine and tell me that a Coca Cola doesn't compliment.
A
Sushi.
C
Amazing.
A
With a Coca Cola.
C
Amazing.
A
The bubbles, dynamite rolls.
B
And over here, I've never had those. But I will say you go to barbecue in someone's backyard.
A
Hillstones with a crazy rainbow roll and your hat off into shining.
B
Hillstone has amazing, amazing food. Horrendous. Horrendous vibes.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
This is one of your best takes. You've been a Hillstone hater for, like, 10 years.
B
I have been. I have been. I'm the. I'm. I'm like, the original Hillstone hater. I. I just don't understand why they. Why a sports cap isn't allowed. But you could go in there with your bucket hat chilling or a stroller.
C
Well, you truly. There were, like, no strollers in the dining room.
B
It's just crazy to have, like, no hats, no jerseys policy in 2025. This is insane.
A
I agree.
C
I didn't know there was no jersey.
A
Oh, yeah. You. You can't. I don't know.
C
Are they worried about affiliated violence happening?
A
Like, no, but they always make us take our hats off. Off.
B
I just think if you're. If your aesthetic is, like, modern American dining, you know, like, modern, classic dining, like, how are you going to have a no hat policy?
C
That's weird. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Why can't I wear my Iverson jersey backwards?
C
You know, you guys have beef about the hat. I have beef about the stroller. They also told. That's a story that was told to me from, like, a friend of a friend. Whatever. They went and they brought their baby, who was, like, under a year old, like, just having a good time. The kid was just, like, making noises that kids make, and they were like, can you leave?
A
It's crazy.
C
They asked them to leave. They're like, can you make your kids stop making the noise?
B
Respect.
A
I'm just like, Hillstone hates sports caps and children.
B
Food is good.
C
The food is great. I would love. There's nothing more that I want than, like a dynamite roll and then like a Chinese chicken salad or a burger with fries or a rack of ribs. Like, I can get them together.
A
Spinach dip.
C
Spinach dip.
A
Pink. Houston's was when Jeezy was like, I'm over the stove. Like the chef at Houston's. I was just like, damn, Jeezy.
B
No, that's a great line. Yeah, I'm just. I'm just gonna say you can go to any barbecue or person's house, whatever, backyard. There's always gonna be a Coke bottle on the table. It's the greatest drink ever made.
C
You know, I think we end there because that's period.
A
There's a hot. There's a hot. Say Gatorade, lemon, lime. Thank you for listening, everybody.
C
Coca Cola.
Podcast: Canal Street Dreams
Hosts: Eddie Huang & Natashia Perrotti
Guest: Adrian "Dizza" Deucemanian
Date: October 24, 2025
Episode Title: DZA on the Holy Fantasy League Group Chat, Collecting the Illest Watches & GOAT of All Beverages
In this highly anticipated episode, Eddie and Natashia are joined by their most-requested guest, Adrian “Dizza” Deucemanian—a legend in Miami’s creative scene, co-founder of Andrew Skate Shop, founder of the influential vintage watch dealer Versus, and infamous commissioner of their inner-circle’s fantasy league. The episode dives deep into the nostalgia, hilarity, and traditions rooted in their group chats and fantasy leagues, Dizza’s journey into premium watch collecting, and, of course, heated debates about the world’s greatest beverage. The conversation is equal parts playful, insightful, and steeped in the hosts’ and guest’s signature blend of candor and inside jokes.
[00:00 – 12:55]
“My job as commission in this league is more so to just make sure that Eric Duncan isn’t doing some flagrant trades.” — Dizza, [03:56]
“Anytime I’m eating food, the first thought is, wow, I could really—a Coke would go amazing with this.” — Natashia, [41:34]
[06:54 – 13:02]
“If you’re not setting your lineups, like, you’re wasting our time—like, just die, you know, ruining the game for us.” — Dizza, [07:24]
“It’s beautiful to be in this league… some of them have been friends literally since they were like three or four.” — Dizza, [10:04]
[13:03 – 21:45]
“I had never really thought about that in that way, and that, like, opened my eyes to, like, oh, I can’t just be buying, you know, something that costs thousands of dollars and not really, like, care about the details.” — Dizza, [15:32]
“You are finding the watches that a guy like me from the culture we’re from would like that doesn’t even know it exists.” — Eddie, [24:40]
[21:45 – 27:22]
“There’s also space for people who just, like, want to collect a watch because it’s sick.” — Dizza, [21:04]
“You guys offering that to just such a large group of people now, I think is really nice and invites more people into buy a watch that maybe were, like, intimidated.” — Natashia, [21:59]
[27:22 – 35:53]
“I like that almost more than buying a watch for our stock or for myself, because I think it’s just like... hunting for people and being right is very rewarding.” — Dizza, [33:40]
[35:56 – 44:14]
“French food is superior. It just is mad butter. Who doesn’t like butter?... The problem with Lebanese food... when it misses, it fucking misses.” — Dizza, [36:50]
“There’s only one good drink on earth, and it’s a Coca Cola…Every other drink in the world is just trying to catch up to that drink.” — Dizza, [40:10]
The crew fondly debates the merits of Coke vs. Gatorade, with Natashia powerfully aligning herself with the fridge-cold Coke as the world’s most versatile and satisfying beverage.
“Anytime I’m eating food, the first thought is, wow, I could really—a Coke would go amazing with this Chinese food.” — Natashia, [41:34]
“It’s just crazy to have, like, no hats, no jerseys policy in 2025. This is insane.” — Dizza, [42:36]
On Group Chats:
“It’s just 10 years of inside jokes and, like, it doesn’t even make sense unless you’re, like, living in this chat.” — Eddie, [05:36]
On Community:
“It’s cool though because like everyone in that league, like we’ve all known each other since teenagers and pretty much all of us have kind of like in our own past gone on to like do things. So it’s like we’ve actually all just grown up together.” — Dizza, [10:04]
On Collecting:
“There’s also space for people who just, like, want to collect a watch because it’s sick.” — Dizza, [21:04]
On Personalization:
“I like that almost more than buying a watch for our stock or for myself, because I think it’s just like... hunting for people and being right is very rewarding.” — Dizza, [33:40]
On Friendship & Nostalgia:
“Damn. This really knows me. Damn. The love is real.” — Eddie, [34:53]
"Message to men. Never open up to your homies. What happens?" — Eddie, [41:41]
On Coca-Cola:
“When you sit outside at a restaurant and they bring you a Coca Cola with ice and a lemon. Yeah. There’s no better drink on earth.” — Dizza, [40:14]
Effortlessly conversational, irreverent, and rich with real-life friendship and mutual ribbing. The episode is packed with nostalgia, rapid banter, and culture critiques—all delivered in the unfiltered, affectionate tone typical of close friends who aren’t afraid to call each other out and reflect on their shared journey.
This episode is a perfect entry-point into the Canal Street Dreams universe: it’s an inside look at creative success, deep-rooted friendships, and the comedic, sometimes esoteric rituals that make up the backbone of a real creative community. Whether you care about watches, group chats, or just passionate arguments about the GOAT beverage, this episode is a clear distillation of Canal Street’s unique blend of wisdom, wit, and warmth.