
This week we cook Matty Matheson's Bavette Steak and Jay Worthy Puts You on Real Game! We talkin' player spots, 80s Boogie, G-funk, G-code, the last time we saw Prodigy and everything in between.
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All right, we on. We back. This week on the show, we are doing above at steak from the Matty Matheson Cookbook. All right. The big homie sent us this many years ago. Thank you. Matty and wifey is on hiatus for the baby. So we have a special guest co host today. This is not a guest. This is a co host. He on the level. Worthy J Worthy in the house.
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What's happening? What's happening, man?
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Come on, bro.
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It's a pleasure honor to be here. You know what I'm saying?
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There's a legend in the house.
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Oh, damn. Street legend in the building, man. Yo, we in here.
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Yup. I'm hyped. I'm hyped. This is the homies episode. We talking all kinds of things. We gonna put you on game this episode.
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That's it. Whole bunch of good shit.
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We doing all that. But you were asking me what my favorite Jordans were.
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I was.
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So I. I'm definitely nostalgic. The Fives is. Is where I picked it up. That's when I really was like, okay, I'm a Jordan, dude. Was. Was the Fives.
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The fives? Yeah.
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The 3M had me, you know? 3M.
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The 3M was it. Now, are you. Are you a typical, you know, like, New York heads really put this in my head. They were like, nah, you can't. You can't wear any other colorways. You can only wear, like, New York put me onto so much. Like, they were like. They're like, no, we only rock original colorway Jordan. Anything else they wasn't rocking with. And then, you know, they was the ones that put me on the black nasties. Like, you gotta have the gray under brim or the green under brim. Like, oh, okay.
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Like the poohong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The. The Korean hat with the. With the green under brim.
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Come on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The poo Young shit.
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This one got a blue one. But, you know, now they're getting all. Now you can get fitted like this. My boy Homicide, he put all type of shit on here for me, you know?
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No, my thing is, like, I don't really rock that many of the. Not original colors. But, like, for instance, like when the public school homies did the, like, purple, like, burgundy joint, the suede. That shit's dumb hard. I still to this day have never gotten it off on a fit, but I keep them on the shelf and, like, refuse to sell.
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Right.
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You know?
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Right.
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So I definitely rock more of just like the white and the red.
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Yeah, the white and the red. Class. Yeah, sure. Like, I'm. I'm always going with the OGs. But there is, like you said, there are exceptions where they come out with a crazy colorway and you're.
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Yeah.
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Nah, I don't give a fuck about what these rules are. I'm about to get these, you know, and this.
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The cement. The cement. Like, I feel like you got to do, like, the Oreo fours, you know, like when the Oreo 4 come out the cement 4 come out the white cements.
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Right? Yeah, Yeah. I had to get.
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You can't really hate on that. Like, so that's not original color, but I got Oreo, you know, like, feel me? Yeah. And then sometimes they do infrared. I with the infrared. Like the six. The infrared six colors on the other joints.
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I with that.
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But I'm. I really. I'm light on sneakers now, you know, I got my go tos, like, the Reebok classics. I rock the Club C, you know, I rock the ama. New Balances they be sending. And then I'm into Crocs. Crazy. Oh, you stay comfy in the Crocs.
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You gotta be cozy in the house.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Super cozy. And then it's just the old Jordans, old Air Force ones. I keep it really light now, bro.
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I love that they brought back the gel swoosh. Those were my shits. But, yeah, no, I feel you. You probably downsized.
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Hella then, I downsized. Cause I really felt like the sneaker game got a little corny, right? And I got into, like, loafers, too. So I fuck with loafers. And then someone gifted me these pair of, like, fucking Philip Lim, like, nurse orderly shoes. They kind of look like Mephistos. And I stay in those shits and mules. I fuck with mules now because mules you could rock with, like, big sweatpants, big jeans, big pants, whatever.
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You feel me?
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And so I'm in. I'm into the mule shit.
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Come on, man. Speak up for the big and baggy. You know what I'm saying? I'm double X, triple X, everything. You feel me?
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All day. That's how I feel about fashion, is, like. I don't really move with fashion the way it's going. I will just stay doing my shit.
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That's it.
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And every three years, you back in fashion.
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You know, bruh, if you go look, bro, I've always worn baggy shit.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I never switched up. It was always just.
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I stayed shopping in the husky department, you know? Always been the husky Boy, it y.
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That's it. Yeah.
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All day. You ever had a Bavette steak before?
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I have not had a Bavette steak. I'm about. This man's got Henny on the table. I don't know what he's gonna do with that Henny, but he's got Henny on the table.
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I got. I got big plans for us.
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Big plans.
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Yup.
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You know what I'm saying? No, I haven't had. What did you call it? A Bavette.
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Bavette steak. Yeah.
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Bavette steak.
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This. Yo, this Matty Matheson Cooker. I gotta tell you something. This is a beautiful book.
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Were you taking it from his recipe?
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This is his recipe. The only thing I flipped is he called out Brandy, and I. I'm doing Henny like we doing vs, you know? Cause, like, I'd rather cook with Henny than Randy. I don't really want that. E and J, you know, I'm not trying to. Fuck that. Enjoy, Rip. Prodigy. Prodigy. Love that. Enjoy.
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He love that. Enjoy.
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Yeah. Yo, that's crazy. That was the last time I seen P. Was with you.
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Damn.
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At the show.
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At the Griselda show.
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Webster Hall.
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Webster Hall. That was last night I seen you.
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With P. That was the last night I seen P. Wow.
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So listen, I forgot about that. That. That. All right, Check this out. So I had put this. This is. This is how that all came about. Ripp, bro, man, that. That was a real one. You know what I'm saying? Crazy. I remember. So we're all like. We're in a backstage in the green room of Webster, Webster Hole. And it's small. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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And this is like. You know what I'm saying? We. Gun had hit me because, you know, we had all been. We all men. Like, a lot of people don't know this, but, like, now, you know, like, people know. Yeah, I'm a part of Griselda, but I've been a part of Griselda from. From the beginning.
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Yeah. From that show.
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Yeah. Right. From the beginning. So we all met at Al's house, and Gun was like, yeah, you know, I want you on this tour. So anyways, I get to New York. It's my first show in New York. It's at Webster Hall. It's sold out. I just dropped the project with Alchemist. I'm in there, and we backstage, and I'm telling you, it's like every legend is backstage. It was Jada, Styles, Raekwon was in there.
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I seen it. Me and Paul, me and Paul, Me, Dart, Paul and Emil was all there.
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Yeah, everybody, man. Smith and Wesson, you name it. Everybody back there.
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Yeah, Tech was up in there.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I. Cp. And he just. He just posted smoking in the corner or whatever. And then, you know, he see me and he nodded to me. I'm like, yo, what up? And he came and gave me my props, bro. He like, yo, I, I, I. With that. You did with Al and. And. And my. And asap. P. We did a joint called Pee on the Drugs.
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Yup.
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But, man, real dude, man, he gave me his number there and, like, was like, yo, tap in. And then he had. We had a. We had a break on tour, like, for a few days, so we're still in New York. And he called me to pull up to the school and work, and then he. Then whatever. Whatever happened.
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He died three days later.
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Three days later, dog. So.
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Bro, that was crazy.
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Yeah. The only time. Only time I met him, you know, and it was love, you know, because.
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I pulled up to the show late, and I go to the green room where y' all was all in, and I. I see you in there. I seen Tech, I seen Pete. I just wave him like, yo, what up? Because I wasn't smoking that heavy at the time. This was crazy. I was like, yo, I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna see you, P. Yeah. And then I never seen him again until the funeral.
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Crazy, man. Yeah, man, we losing a lot of legends out here, man. That. That wicked, but.
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But that's crazy. Yo, I run into you a lot in New York. I got hyped when I. Because we ran into you there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That Chinatown night was crazy. Up in the billiard spot.
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Yeah.
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Like, we used to be running around.
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Oh, yeah, for sure. That. And then, like. And back then, I would just always be out there, like. And just, you know, that was like my second home. And then I actually moved to New York January 2020, right when Covid kicked off. Really? Yeah. What it was. I remember that. It was just like. Everything was just falling apart. Kobe passed. Covid kicked off. It was like. I'm like, damn, man.
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You got stuck in New York for Covid?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. I was there in Harlem.
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Of all the years to not to. To be in you, that's the worst year to be in New York, bro.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Did you pop out to, like, Times Square and all that?
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I've seen all of that. Empty. That was wild. You know what I'm saying? But then I came back out here. I Was like, nah, I gotta. You know what I mean?
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Like, yeah, you came home.
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I came home. But, yeah, man, I love New York, bro. Like, the New York, I think helped me level up in my career because just the hustle out there and the drive and the way y' all move, you know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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Out here we more chill, laid back, relaxed. Like I said earlier, people, you know, in la, you could meet somebody and it's. I hate to say it, but it's on that Hollywood shit, they'd be like, yeah, yeah, man, we're gonna link, we're gonna do this and nothing ever happens. And yeah, in New York, like, for example, Body brings me over to Harry Frauds, I'm like, let's do. Let's make an ep. The next day we're in there and we starting on the ep.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's done. Like, we're.
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If we say we gonna do it.
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We do it real shit.
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And then, like, you know what's funny? Out here in la, I love having you on the show because I do. I do be complaining about LA with YP a lot on the show, but when we get legends like you or Roy Choi and then like, RIP spot that, you know, always a good interaction when it's like somebody who follows G code.
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Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, like, you know, like I was saying earlier, there's not a lot of, you know, it's a lot of people out here that aren't from the streets. But, you know, like, these Hollywood is just filled with weirdos, bro.
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Yeah.
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And most of these motherfuckers don't have any.
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I even get in trouble in business because, like, I'll say what I'm doing, but then when I be like, yo, that dude is not doing what he said he was gonna do.
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Yeah.
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Everyone else is like, that's kind of the culture. Like, don't be getting mad. Like, yeah.
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You're like, what? Yeah, but you're like, but when I say it, I'm gonna do something. It's for real.
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Yeah.
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So what you're telling me I can't call him out for being fake? Basically. And they're like, well, out here in the industry, and that's the thing that me up.
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Because people started looking at me like I was the crazy one. I'm like, I'm not crazy.
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No.
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I just have a standard. But what I learned with the Hollywood business types out here is like, they're not going to be of their word, so don't Expect it.
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They're. They're going to. With you when you're hot.
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Yeah.
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If you're. Whatever. Oh, he's hot. He's booming. Contact him right now. We need him on this and that or whatever.
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Exactly.
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As soon as you got some downtime and you're not. You know what I'm saying?
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Yup.
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It's dead. You know what I'm saying? Some bullshit. But that's the industry. That's why I stayed away from it and kind of created my own lane.
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Yeah.
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And I never felt that I had to fit into that because when I came into it, like, when I. Like you said you were. As a fan of the London drug stuff. When we did that, the people that were fans of my music were producers. Like, I was getting hit up by Alchemist and Cardo and Dame Funk and that. And I loved that. I was like, damn. I'm like.
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It was classic. It felt like you were rapping over boogie shit.
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Boogie, 80s boogie shit. And I would always tell people too, that they'd be like, oh, this is G Funk. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no respect what Dre and Warren G and Snoop created and cocaine and above the law. That's G Funk.
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Yeah.
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What I'm doing is something different. I'm actually just taking boogie loops.
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Yeah.
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And rapping over them.
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Exactly.
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This is like real 80s raw gang bangers. This is what the big homies were smoking serve to. With Jerry curls pulling up in. In low riders and. And this is like real house party music. Yeah, Yeah.
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I like that you make the differentiation is kind of like, you know, there are. It's like jazz samples in New York. You know what I mean? Like, the west coast had the G Funk samples. New York had ski beats, evil D Q tip with the jazz samples. But then people went on that, the soul tip, and it moved. And it wasn't the same shit. But a lot of people kind of like, they don't see. They think it's all the same shit. We all just sample it. It's like, nah, these dudes are being very particular, putting you on to like, specific boogie loops. Yes, Specific jazz loops. And like, is a big difference.
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It's a big difference.
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How would you explain the difference?
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I think you. You broke it down pretty good there, you know, like, a lot of. A lot of the west coast stuff was like, you know, heavily. Heavily based on Parliament. You know what I mean? And that, you know, Parliament had the. It was a cat named, I think Bernie Worrell. He was on the keys. I think he the one that did the Funky Worm and. And records like that. And those were, like the. You know, those. What I remember as a kid, you know, Dre was when he. When he came out with doggy style, like, a lot of that was, you know, people.
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Yeah.
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You know, all of it.
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People.
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Yeah. And then when you go back to, like, for example, like, the. The temperatures rising, the mob, you know, that was Patrice Rushing. It was like some soul shit. You know what I mean? And, yeah, you know, it. Definitely. I feel like the west kind of catered more to sampling funk. But we could debate this all day, because if you go back and you go listen to Compton's Most Wanted, they were sampling soul and all of that, too. And if you go to King T. Yeah. King T was rapping on Boom Bap.
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Yeah.
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But you know what I'm saying, being from the west, so, you know, it's. It's. It's still all around ep. Look at epmd. They were sampling funk.
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Yeah.
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You know, so it can go either way. Really.
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Yeah, the EPMD was hard. The back of business was funky, man.
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Funky, man.
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Yeah. You know, nice and smooth. Kind of like a little bit.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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You know, but, like, what's it like? What are you into these days? Like, I know. I love the two peas in a pod shit you did with Larry June. That shit hard. You was in your pocket. But I'm kind of curious, what do you listen to outside of, like, your. Your kind of zone?
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So, look, man, let's pull out my phone, man, because I'm gonna tell you this. I don't really listen to a lot of rap. So if you. If you jump in my car.
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I'm hyped to hear this because I don't listen to that much rap now, either.
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Look, right now, for a rap album, what I got right now, I got the dog father.
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Okay.
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All right. I'm gonna go to Snoop's second album because I also realized that O.J. it's the man. This one particularly.
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Yeah.
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Is almost like he did an album with Charlie Wilson.
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Yeah.
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He took a lot of Gap Band samples, and he got Charlie on all the hooks.
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It's an underrated album. He got vapors on that. The Vapors. Crazy.
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The group song was crazy. Oh, you know what? I just start and. All right, so I'm bullshitting. I say I don't. Cause, look, most of the time, I'm just listening to Gap Band, Stylistics, Isleys.
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Okay. You got the Quentin Tarantino playlist over there?
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Yeah, straight. I got the Delphonics. Yeah, I got the Jackie Brown playlist. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
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But Bobby Womack, 110th Street.
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Come on. But you know what? I just went back into.
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I'm stuck with this.
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I went back into Boyz N the Hood. You remember Jeezy's group, Boyz N the Hood? It was. They, like.
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Wait, whose group?
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Young Jeezy. He came out in, like, 2005. He had a group called Boyz N the Hood? No, the album was hard, bro.
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I remember usda. Yes, he had that USDA shit.
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Yes, he had a group called Boyz N the Hood. It was a cat named Jody Breeze. He used to have a record called With Jazzy Faye called All the Players do is Stay Fresh. I remember in those early. Those early 2000s, the south was killing it, bro.
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I remember Jeezy was telling me a story because when he first came and moved to Malibu, we used to kick it.
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For real.
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Yeah. Me and him would kick it, watch basketball. Like, I love kicking it with Jizzle. And he was telling me, he was like, bro, I started rapping because I opened a studio to, you know, like, expand his business, right? You know? And he was like, rappers weren't showing up and they were like, yo, you gotta pay these bills. So I just turned on the mic and started doing it. I'm like, that's crazy.
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It's like some easy E type shit. Like, rapper turned rapper.
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Yeah. Didn't even mean to do it.
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Yeah. So, yeah, that's crazy. But, yeah, I don't know, man. I mean, shout outs to all the homies out here doing this. I think, you know, all. Everybody out here doing their thing. I support everybody, you know, from. From Schoolboy to Tyler to Kendrick to, You know, I listen to so much.
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Disco now and, like, lo fi. Like synth pop.
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Yeah.
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Talk about Pet Shop Boys, Laura Brannigan. Like that song, Small Town Boy, you.
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Gotta put me on.
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Oh, yeah, I'll send you that. Because I. I feel like it would be ill for somebody to do future type scissor music over those kind of, like, depressing synth pop beats. Like, minor key synth pop.
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Yeah.
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You know, I feel like that could be an ill evolution for rap music.
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Right? For sure. Like, I always like to be, like. I always wanted to be known as the one to, like, talk some real gutter street shit, some P shit, but over some. Some of the samples we have, they. They are funky and dancy, but the other ones are actually kind of like mystic and soulful and, like, kind of experimental too, so. Yeah, I love that. Like, you know what I'm saying? The contrast of kicking hard over some. That sounds like. You know what I'm saying? Some. That hipsters or whatever gonna.
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Yeah.
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Listen to. But you talking about the set.
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All I want from rap music is basically like a Pulp Fiction novel set to, like, timeless samples.
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Basically.
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That's it. Give me a Walter Mosley album on top of this or top of that, you know, like, just kick.
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Speaking of Pulp Fiction, I just watched that, like, a week ago. I hadn't seen it in years, bro. Still to be the best.
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Still the best.
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It's still the best. Yeah.
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People who hate on him. I got a friend, Omid, he hates on. He hates on Quentin Tarantino. He's like. He's. I. I don't think he's a good director. And I'm just like, bro, yeah, you tripping. You're tripping. You're crazy tripping.
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Spike, though, is my favorite. I'm not Spike.
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Spike Jones. Your favorite.
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Spike Lee.
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Okay. Like, that's his favorite too.
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Yeah, from. From. I' ma say, from. You know, the first movie. What was it? She's got to have it all the way up until like.
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Or do the Right Thing. He got. He had Bed Stuy Barbershop is the student film. That's the first one.
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Yeah.
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And then. And then he goes.
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Yeah, then do the right thing. Yeah, but that. Do the right thing. Clocker, like, Clockers is like, come on.
A
Crazy. Yeah, he really same DP as Belly Malik said.
B
Oh, is that who did that?
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Yeah, Crazy. Spike had him first, bro.
B
That was the. And then he got game. Is like, man, that's crazy. What?
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One of those Rosario.
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Come on out of here. Under. Underneath the. Underneath the dock. Man, that crazy, yo.
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I mean, I watched that shit mad times. Like, honest, like writing Boogie. I was just watching Belly. I was watching. He got game. Watching above the Rim, you know?
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Like, I went to go see that movie in the theaters. Oh, word. At Magic Johnson on 125th.
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My man. Oh, in New York.
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Yep.
A
That's what's up.
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Took. Took Shorty to the movies and went to go see boogie.
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My man.
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Come on, man.
A
That's love. That's love, bro.
B
Yeah.
A
We're going to have to get you on the next soundtrack.
B
Come on.
A
That's real love.
B
Yeah, that's real.
A
So what. What made you. I mean, not made you, but what got you to move back to L. A?
B
Yeah, I'm going to be honest. I. I told somebody this story. Actually. I was at Hit Boys a Couple of days ago, and I was telling them the story of what. Do you remember that scene in Home Alone when he's got the two grocery bags and he's walking and they break?
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Yeah.
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All right, so look, I. On Sugar Hill in Harlem, and we. It was this one blizzard, like a storm. And they're like, well, you're gonna be snowed in. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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And you gotta go stock up. And I was like, oh, you know, we're already dealing with the COVID You gotta stock up on toilet paper, canned food, all this. So now we got the blizzard coming, we gotta go stock up more. So I go, you know, and living in New York, I didn't have a car, you know what I'm saying? So I remember going to the grocery store, getting a gang of groceries, and I'm walking up this steep ass hill. It's icy everything, and the bags break like Macaulay Culkin. And I was like, you know what? I'm done.
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It's a wrap.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. It was that. And then, like, shit, my building in Harlem, it was cool until I started seeing mice in that motherfucker. And then I was like, hell, no, I'm not built for this. I need to go back. You know what I'm saying? I miss driving. I miss going to the ocean. And, you know, at this age, it's.
A
Hard to come do the la. It's hard to move to New York at your age because you've been comfortable in la. You've been getting money out here. Yeah, money don't go as far out there.
B
Nah, man.
A
Speaking about money. All right, I'm gonna do a free ad from Magic Mind today, all right? Ad today. But I do really fuck with this shit, all right? Magic Mind. Drink this. Magic. I'm gonna gift you some of this Magic, all right?
B
What's that little ginger shot type shit?
A
It's like an adaptogen. It's for your, like, brain and, like, to kind of just get you productive. I feel like it's a really good supplement to coffee because it keeps me from crashing on coffee.
B
This is amazing, bro.
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Yeah.
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I got Eddie Wong right here.
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Yeah.
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Cooking me steak and eggs. You feel me? It's lit. Skull is dead. Oh, first bite.
A
I feel like LA right now is a rich person scene, and that's what's whack. Like, you know, Fairfax was like the lower, like, Rivington. It was like Lafayette. You know what I mean? Just post up, be out there.
B
Yeah.
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The thing for me now with LA is Like, everyone want to hang out at Erewhon. And look, I with Erewhon, I drink the juice, but I'm not posting up there.
B
That's crazy. People do that. I didn't even know that.
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Yeah, dude. People be like posting. I'm taking multiple back to back meetings out there and it's like, that's like the spot. And then, you know, no disrespect, but it's like, people be like, yo, let's meet at Horses. And I'm like, this doesn't feel like the spot, B.
B
Urban, you had me meet you at Horses the other day. I'd never been there. I never been there.
A
People Urban doing work in there.
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Yeah, he likes it.
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He with it.
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They were over there. You know, I don't. I don't be known of a lot of like that, bro. Like, yeah, I'm not in the know of a lot of.
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But look, I with the owner light, I with you. Great, dude. The owner's great. It's just for me. And I don't even think he meant to curate that scene, but that's just a weird scene up in there.
B
Well, you know me, I'm all right. Speak. I'm like old school. Like, I go to the Bel Air Hotel or the Beverly Hills Hotel. I like doing.
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I'll do the Sunset Tower.
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Yeah. Or I'll go to. I'll go to the Palisades. I got my little spots out there that I like to go hit. But like, yeah, I like my. I like my fancy shit.
A
Yeah, I like fancy.
B
I don't like.
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Yeah, the fake fancy. Like, if I'm a pay and we're going to do this, like, let's do it right. Let's not do it on some like, oh, we in the mix shit and then bang you over the head. Because it's like, if we in the mix, this should be affordable. That's how I feel.
B
Mm.
A
I gotta say, I think the flavor of Matty steak. This is fire.
B
This is fire.
A
Yeah. Because this is meant to be like a fast frying, tougher steak.
B
It's a tougher steak.
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Yeah.
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It's not like it's a breakfast steak. That's what it is.
A
The thing in this cookbook, all of his dishes, they're really good, but super hard to make. Like, if you're gonna cook out of this cookbook, you gotta go to like three grocery stores for each recipe. I hit three stores yesterday for real, but it bangs.
B
Yeah, this is fine.
A
This shit bangs.
B
Maddie, Matty, we fucking with it. We're Loving it.
A
Yo, so what's. What's the shorty situation these days, you know, because if wifey was here, that's what she would be asking.
B
That's what she'd be on right now.
A
Who it is?
B
Well, I'm currently a single man, you know, and I've been. I've been single for some time, you know?
A
Yo, so what are. What are your days? If you're gonna take a shorty out, that's a big deal. You know what I'm saying? It's not just coming to the crib. Where are you. Where are you taking them out?
B
I'm gonna give y' all good game, man.
A
Give us that game.
B
See, like, I'm like. I'm on my old school player.
A
So give us spots that you burnt out. You know what I'm saying? You don't give us the one that's still the closest spot, because I know.
B
I know I'm gonna have to give you some fly, though. I can't give you no bullshit. So if I really like you, I'm gonna bring you the vibrato. I don't know if y' all know about vibrato, but it's in Bel Air, and it's. It's literally, you gotta go. Have you been to the Bel Air Hotel?
A
Yeah.
B
So I loved how you gotta go. It's in a residential street.
A
Yeah. When a producer's really trying to fuck me, they take me there.
B
They're like, the deal is going to go like this. You got your room here, the one with the hot tub in it. Good. Drinks on us.
A
We're not giving you your residuals. Check out this truffle fry.
B
Yeah, it's really good. I go to Vibrato. It's Herb Albert's Jazz and Steakhouse. It feels like you walked into the movie the Mask. Like, that's what it feels like. I'm not, like, playing and then, like. Yeah, they always have, like, guest acts, and it's cool.
A
Fly.
B
So that's where I go. If I really like you. If I. If it's.
A
He really put you on game. Vibrato. People be flying in from Iowa taking their shorties of vibrato.
B
Now, it'll be hot, though. If it's. If it's. If I see you motherfuckers in there, I know y' all, but. Yeah, that's one of my spots. I know I got a little Italian spot I go to in the Palisades, but it ain't the Palisades that y' all know about. It's the Highland Palisades. You gotta really know about the Highland Palisades. Not too many people know about that. I know. You know, because you lived up in that area.
A
Oh, you. You talking about Giorgio Baldi.
B
Wherever you go up, like, say you're going up Sunset.
A
Yeah.
B
Then you go left and you go up that canyon and it's all townhomes.
A
Yeah.
B
But then on the very left, it's the only thing there. I'm like, there's just this little plaza up there. I'm like, damn. This is if you lived up there.
A
Yeah, but which. Which Italian spot?
B
I don't even know the name of it. I really know. Yeah, it's fire.
A
Because Giorgio Baldi is the Italian joint I go to. They got the little raviolis.
B
For real?
A
Yeah. It's like where Palisades meets the pch. I feel it's next to where Osama lives. You know where Osama lives? Like, he lives behind that bar. What's that. What's that bar by the pch. I just know Osama live behind it.
B
The. The. Like Beckers or. Or something like that. It's called something like that.
A
But Giorgio Baldi, a fire. Fire. Italian restaurant. The shorty's, like the raviolis there. When I was on the west side, that was.
B
That was getting.
A
That was.
B
That was. That was it. That was a. All right, all right, I'm. I'm going to take that. I'm going to take that in. I'm going try that out. You feel me? Because vibrato be hitting my pockets sometimes.
A
Yeah. Georgia will hit it. But, like, the shorty get, like the baby raviolis. They're happy, you know, Baby ravioli. Okay. You know, my first day with wifey was zenu chicken, because she curved me.
B
Fire, though.
A
Yeah.
B
It's the best, yo. That's one of the best places that people don't talk about. But go ahead, yo.
A
So this is my opinion, right? The. The player joints that we'd be taking shorties out to on dates or whatever, they're great. I feel like for me, my. My journey has been. When it was the one, she was like, yo, don't try none of that game on me. And like, Aaron will say, you know, Aaron will say this shit to me sometimes because I'll be gassing a Ron. When I talk to him, he's like, yo, yo, stop gassing me, dog. My game too tight for that. My girl is the same way. Same way. She was just like, you know, I set up a couple dates at nice places and she just didn't show up.
B
Wow.
A
And when I was like, yo, let's box. She's like, all right, cool. And then Zenku, she's like, I like your flow. She was like, I thought. She was like, I peeped your Instagram. I thought you might have been too sceny. So when you came with the not seen shit, she was like, that's what I want. I wanted to see who you are. And I was like, oh, but the player shit is fun when it's not wifey.
B
That part. And sometimes I just want to do player shit. Sometimes I want to go, I just.
A
Need a plus one.
B
I just need a plus one to go do player. And I don't want to go with the homie. Yeah. I'm more. You know what I'm saying?
A
Let me show you. Yeah, come on. I'm not trying to smell the homie.
B
Exactly. I'm doing this for me. So you know what I mean? But yeah, and then, you know. Yeah. I mean, I'm with you with Shorty too.
A
It's like, it's not even trying to do nothing. It's like, yo, this companionship.
B
I got a question for you. What's your favorite smash burger in la?
A
My favorite smash burger. Okay. If. If I'm a support with my money, I'm a support Nudes with burgers, she wrote. Because that's fam. You know what I mean? Like, I with nudes and I with burgers, she wrote. But my favorite is actually for the win. Two bills.
B
Me too.
A
My man.
B
Come on. That's the one. That's the one.
A
That's the naughty one.
B
Yeah, that's the one, bro.
A
The pabils. That one is the one.
B
Oh, my God. That one was fire again.
A
Yo, see this waiting for him.
B
I was like, I'm gonna hit him with the. For the win.
A
Yup. But, you know, wifey is the smash burger, like, scientist. She knows all this. She put me on the Pabils for the win. And then she likes America. She likes. What's the one that tastes like McDonald's burgers? Never say die. She liked that.
B
Speaking of smash burgers, we got to give a shout out to our bro Bun B Trill Burgers, also an excellent burger. And if you in la, they actually have a trail burger at his business partner spot in Long Beach. You can go get the trailburger out here.
A
Get that trail burger, bro.
B
Go get it.
A
Yeah, Support the homies.
B
That's really what it's all about.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, that's for me.
A
Too is like even though I'm a chef and every chefs is all competitive.
B
Yeah.
A
For me, I'm not choosing the spot based just off the food. Unless I'm eating like Chinese food or Mexican food. Then I'm like, it was just the food, but it's like the community. I'm really picking off the community vibe.
B
Chinese food. Congee village in the lower Crazy. The best.
A
That's where I shot the final scene of Boogie up in there.
B
For real?
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, I didn't know that because their.
A
Their Cantonese food is so good. So home style. And then like Sandy too. Sandy Ling, that, that fashion designer, that's her parents restaurant.
B
Really?
A
Her and her brother Ricky. Yeah.
B
I didn't know that. I fuck with Kanji village. That's where Mike Rapping bar would take me.
A
Yeah. I would say noodle town for me is the champ. But if you're gonna sit down and you like bring in your fam, like, I don't wanna bring my mom to noodletown. I'd bring her to congee. You know, congee is more upscale. It's good.
B
Mm.
A
And then Chinese in New York, the one it was slept on for like many years. And it was an old chef, an old owner from Taiwan, and they came out to East Broadway. It's called Hua Yuan. And that, that spot people have discovered lately, that one bangs, that's the one. They actually have a pecking duck that's like very, very good.
B
I'm gonna hit that next time. I'm on it. I'm on it. I don't even really know. Yo, you got to put me actually on where the good Chinese spots are out here. I just been, you know, we just, we just hit the hood spots in the hood. But like, I want to know where the good like sit down ones are in Chinatown that like have the fire.
A
I actually really like hood Chinese food.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, I'll even up city walk like on the way to the airport or if I've been out of LA for a minute, I don't do the in and I'll hit the city the way back from lax.
B
Yeah.
A
But the other one is. All right, breakfast. Let's. Let's do the whole day. If you're waking up and it's breakfast, I would send you the huge tree pastry. There's a lady named Lillian out there. She makes the best Taiwanese breakfast. And like rice balls, all that hot soy milk. My favorite, like pan fried dumpling pot sticker is Huay TOU Xiang. You can actually order if you live in la, because they got one in Hollywood now, so you can order it and then what else? Newport Seafood. If you want like Cantonese seafood, I go Newport Seafood, get the lobster.
B
Newport Seafood, Yeah.
A
If I want crab or lobster, I'm going to Newport Seafood. If I want Shanghainese food and it's the holidays, I go to Shanghai number one and that one is like in Monterey Park. Two. Then what? This is a good question because I got bangers. Oh, Hunan Chili king. Like if I want spicy food, I gotta be pregnant.
B
I'm send you the whole joint after.
A
Chili King, you know.
B
Yeah, yeah. That's fire then. That's fire.
A
If I'm gonna eat beef noodle soup, I usually make it in the house, but if I'm gonna pay money, the only place I'm pay money to eat beef noodle soup is daiho.
B
Really?
A
They do it right.
B
And these are all downtown.
A
Oh, like Monterey Park.
B
Monterey park, yeah.
A
Heights, Arcadia.
B
Oh yeah, Monterey park on all the Ill. Asia, Asian spots. I forgot about that.
A
Bangers.
B
Bangers, yeah, for sure.
A
The only Asian I'm eating pause in LA proper in the city. The only Asian food I'm eating in LA proper.
B
Yeah.
A
Is Thai food in Hollywood.
B
Yep.
A
Or like an Anna Jack and then Korean food.
B
Oh yeah. Korean barbecue. Crazy. Yeah, that shit's off the chain.
A
Like Suwon, you know, they got really good banchan Agashi Gok chunk, they known for intestines. They give you like intestines.
B
I'm not opposed to that though. Like, you know what I mean? Like I, I, I'll go, I, I do have a weak stomach though. Like when we were just out in Thailand, I stayed away from the street food. But I'm kind of mad that I did because I heard the street food is like the best to hit.
A
Yeah. But after doing a food show, I'll tell you, yo, take care of your stomach, bro. Yeah, because it took me years to rebuild my stomach. Like I was up off Long's World, dog.
B
Really?
A
And like.
B
Yeah, because you're just eating whatever the you were like going to travel to go do.
A
Yeah.
B
And this just tearing you up inside, but you're like, well, it's part of the job and cutting the checks.
A
Yeah, man, I swear to God, that mongolia episode took 10 years off my life because, yo, they had me eating crazy home cooked food in the yurt.
B
Yeah.
A
And, and in the yurt, the goat and the, the kid was running in and out of the yurt and there's no division between like the yurt and the outside. There's goat inside, there's goat outside. And the lady was really nice. Made, like, a meat and potato and carrot stew. Tasted delicious.
B
Wow.
A
But when she gave me the fork, the fork had a little moisture on it, and she meant well.
B
Yeah.
A
She dried it off on the carpet.
B
Yeah.
A
Gave it back. And I just seen goat fur on it.
B
Yeah.
A
And I was like, oh, nah. Because that carpet, the goat shit was on it. The kid was walking all over. The goats was in and out. I was like, yo, I'm literally eating off the bottom of a goat pen. But I didn't want to disrespect.
B
Yeah.
A
Because you can't. I just don't disrespect. I'd rather die than disrespect somebody's culture.
B
Come on.
A
So I ate it immediately. I was just like, yo, my stomach.
B
Was, like, inside out.
A
Inside out right away, though, bro. And I told. I told Laven at the time. Because, no, it wasn't leaving. I told CV at the time. Yeah. Because Laven wasn't on this. This one. Me and Laven was beefing. We beef every three years, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
So I tell.
B
Worked on your show with you, la. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
And so I'm telling cv. I'm like, yo, cv, like, my stomach is a wrap. I tell the producer. I'm like, yo, we got to get to the plane, like. So we had to ride a motorcycle to the plane. So I rode a motorcycle to a Volkswagen to the plane. Get on this, like, propeller plane. We land, and I'm in the plane, just shaking, like, shivering.
B
Food poisoning.
A
And I go to CV Who's. Who's the same. I go, yo, you gotta take my luggage, bro. I gotta go do in the bathroom.
B
Yeah, go to the bathroom.
A
None of the stalls have doors.
B
Oh, so you're just in there violating, yo? No violating. This man violated every single one nightmare ever. Are you serious?
A
And every stall looked like the Shining. It was just brown. So, yo, I get up on this toilet, you standing. I Romper stomped it. I had to fucking Romper stomp this shit, dog.
B
Crazy.
A
And I came up and I get my. And. And the producer was like, yo, why you got one sock on? I'm like, yo, you already know they ain't got no toilet paper. I had to, like, Muppet my, bro.
B
I've had.
A
I was Jim Henson.
B
Yeah, he said I was Jim Henson in that, man. That's that. Yeah, man. I. I got. Unfortunately, I got really sick when I went to India. That was that. Me up. I feel like I'M still paying for that, so. Yeah, we gotta. We gotta know what we're. We gotta know how our bodies react to whatever we put in it. You know what I'm saying?
A
India, Southeast Asia, West Africa. I just feel like, yo, you gotta take care.
B
Yeah, you got. You can't think that you can go be a local and just get down with their. When they get down, it's gonna hit you upside the head. Yeah, it's gonna hit you.
A
You know, we're not built like that. That's like when Bane said to Batman, like. Like, you found the dark. I was born in the.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Real. I'm not ready for that, man. Vice, though, the good old days, man. We used to be in there running, y' all. Running. Running the show, man. That was. That was the time.
A
Did I meet you in the office or did I meet you outside, like, partying, maybe?
B
Could have been in the office, though. Yeah, could have been in the office.
A
It might have been. I might.
B
Because I know I pushed up there with, like, 10 bloods and just be like, yeah, we're in. We're doing this today and that. And then Andy would be like, oh, there's Eddie. I'd be like, yeah, I know who Eddie is. What up? Yeah, that was. Back then. The company was run great.
A
Yeah, it was amazing, bro. It was so much fucking fun up in there. It was a playground. The people. Free alcohol people was giving us free weed every day.
B
Oh, man. I had, like. Oh, it was the best.
A
I showed up to the office. I didn't even need to be there because I would just know.
B
You go there to go kick it.
A
I would kick it.
B
I would go there to kick it, get free.
A
Shit. When Sosa was hot, they dropped all the Glow Gang gear. I was like, I came up on a whole fucking set of Glow Gangs.
B
Come on. Come on. All type of shit, man. Yeah, I loved it up there. That was the shit. I remember Capra gave me the code. Like, I wasn't an employee there. I was just the one that produced Noisy Bompton with him. And I'd like, boom, boom, boom. The code. Like, we'd come in there at night. I remember we shot a music video in the movie theater. We had. Yeah, we were blowing dro we had in. Oh, man, it was great, bro.
A
I have to say, when Vice was popping, LA was mad fun to live on the west side.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Because that's where I posted up. Yeah. I would just leave my car in the parking lot and then Uber around the City just get faded and come back the next day.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Because I could sleep in the office if I needed to.
B
Is it still there? The.
A
The office is there, but it's bankrupt. Bankruptcy.
B
Next. I was dying. You're like, yeah. You said something to your mom. You're like, yeah, they spent it on powder.
A
Yeah.
B
Something funny like that.
A
I was like, cocaine is a hell of a.
B
Hell of a drug. Yeah. But, man, it's crazy because that, like, you know, at the time, I don't think I would have wanted to be with any other company. Like, as far as, like, the content they were putting out, who was affiliated with the brand? It was you. It was action. I had this going on with Kendrick. They had. Man, rest in peace. What's our. The Laven worked with.
A
Oh, Michael K. Come on. Come on.
B
Michael Koh. The Goat. The Goat. And. And it was just, you know, like. Yeah, it was cool. I don't know what happened. It went court. They got super corporate and then they. Yeah, then you couldn't. I couldn't just pull up and tell people to do this and that. And it was. Then I was like, oh, shit. It's a whole whole other ball game.
A
Listen, I didn't tell Worthy to plant this, but we are doing the Vice documentary. So please, you come to the theater.
B
You might find out.
A
Yeah. You might be in people. You. You will find out why everybody went broke.
B
Yes.
A
Why I'm fighting with Fortress to do with this.
B
Hot plates. Hot plates and Ziploc bags and credit cards in this sound right here.
A
Chopping it.
B
Yeah.
A
But did you ever hear the story of that Falslava P? He was the one. He was pushing mad coke out of the Toronto office with the Mexican cartel.
B
No, that's. That's legendary, bro.
A
Legend. Like, so much legendary advice.
B
Like so much ill. Great, great, great Canadian content right here. We got Vice, Maddie.
A
Oh, come on.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
You have one of the all time episodes is the Noisy episode. Shit, man, that was peak Vice. Like Trevor, too. Trevor similar.
B
Oh, yeah. Trevor was. Yeah.
A
The boss of Noisy. Justin. Baby. Babyman. Big shout out, Babyman.
B
I used to muscle my shit in there. I'd be like, all right. No, y' all are writing this up for me today. I need it now. I need my video premiere. No, I said no. I don't have a YouTube channel. It's going on. It's going on. The Noisy. You.
A
Did they premiere use a trick?
B
Yeah, they did.
A
Wow.
B
But that was. That was before I got with Vice. That was actually them just finding the Music and being like, who's this kid? Like, and I'd. Like, I was doing some legendary shit. And, like, I brought. All right, so we shot that in the Broadways, and my. My. My boy, B.G. pariko Hood. And he was like, bro, like, you know, we shot it on 112th and Broadway. There was no bloods, like, coming over there like that. I had all my homies come over there. I had Freeway Rick come over there. And then I brought all the ASAP mob there. Yeah, I had Yams there. And, like, you know what I'm saying? In the trenches.
A
And, like, we thought it was a yam song for a second.
B
Yeah, a lot of people found out about me because they would play it in supreme, like, all the time. And, like, that was very helpful. And then the vice. Yams was like, a huge part of my, you know, like, actually taking music seriously because I just really only dropped, like, that song. And then he's like, all right, we got to. You gotta follow up with the album. And then, like, you know what I'm saying? I went in there with Sean and we, like, really locked in. And then by the time the album was ready, bro, it passed. Yeah, it was crazy. That was my dog. And like I said, we lost a lot of good people, man. Like, Yams, Prodigy, Sponto Big Y. Like, this goes.
A
We just mentioned Michael. I was with Michael K two weeks before he passed partying in Mexico City. Dude was doing a dance off with my homie, like, crazy shit.
B
It's crazy, dog. It's crazy. Yeah. So we gotta just keep going up for them and. And keep the division alive and just. You know what I'm saying? That's all. That's what keeps me going, so.
A
Cause the thing about. We like about those dudes is, too, they follow the code. You know what I mean?
B
Follow the code, man. Yams was real. Like, yeah, he didn't give a fuck. I remember him bringing me to like, like, Jeremy Scott parties. And I didn't know nothing about that. Like, he's like. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, all type of. And it was like, nah, come on. Bring the homies. It's good. Don't. Don't trip.
A
Like, that's how all of us got down, you know? It's like, you mean somebody.
B
You were like, yo, that night that we were in Chinatown at that, you were like. I'm like, I got like, 10, 12 homies. Like, don't trip. They good. Come in here. Yeah, Mobbed in there. That was a movie.
A
We Just ran that up. Movies, we ran that.
B
Yeah, those were good years. That I feel like 2012 to like 2018 was like. It was 2012. Maybe 2012 to 2017.
A
Yep, that was it.
B
That five years right there was ill. Popping. It was popping.
A
And that's when I had the crib in Malibu with the patio and we just dropped like 60 people there on the weekend. Yeah, Barbecue.
B
That was fire.
A
Go fucking crazy. Lean and barbecue.
B
Yeah. Oh, my God. I had it all so lean. I can't with no more that myself.
A
Yeah, I had a bad. I had a bad situation. I'd like passed out.
B
Oh, really?
A
No, I. I just passed out and.
B
Like, you know, that had my bro like. I'm rocks, basically. You know what I'm saying?
A
Don't drink lean. Yo, I'm gonna just say that for real. Don't drink lean.
B
I drank lean for 10, 12 years straight.
A
Yeah.
B
My stomach ain't. Ain't recovered since. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I love that shit. And I wasn't ever had a problem with it either. I just loved it. I loved the taste of it. I didn't. I stopped. I don't smoke weed. So, like, that was my, like, oh, wow. Yeah, that was my, like, you know, my. I stopped smoking weed. I remember one time I was with the homie. Rest in peace. He. I crashed. I got out of jail. The weed was stronger. I had crashed the car and I knew, like, I'm like, I made a dumbass left turn. I remember I was in the 20s. I made this dumb ass turn and the homie JJ was like, blood. He's like, you gotta stop smoking weed, blood. You like a turtle. I totaled my. I was like, I'm like, man, I'm like, hell no. I'm like, I'm good. That's really. A car accident is what made me stop smoking weed. That's how, like, I guess like, you know, when you stop, like, you go. I was gone for a month and I came back and hit it and I was like, ooh, this shit is strong. Strong. So I left it alone. And as soon as I left it alone, I got way more productive in my career. Music. I felt like it was holding me back. You know what I'm saying?
A
Drink that. Magic mind.
B
Come on. Magic mind.
A
Magic mind, baby.
B
Product placement.
A
No, man. Cause I definitely, like, I found a few strains of weed that I do really well with to write on. So I do it to write, but try not to smoke different or other people's when I'm out Cuz you never know. Like, these strains different now. They different.
B
Crazy, dog. I could do mushrooms and be less high than weed.
A
Yeah, no, the lean. The Lean with the Mango Fanta was just so del. It was delicious.
B
The pineapple, you mean?
A
I. I like the mango.
B
Mango.
A
The pineapple, C. I like the Mango Fanta.
B
Why have I not had the mango?
A
Cuz I had to used to go to this.
B
This.
A
This gas station. It was an Arco by the airport that had the mango. Yeah, damn.
B
I know the one. The one on Century.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Me and my boy Vic would go there just for Mango Fanta because everyone else had the pineapple. And I was like, you know, it was kind of fly if you got.
B
The different mix, you know, you always had this stunt. Lean was all about the sodas. Like, you ain't got this. Yeah, bro. Like, I. I was the first one with, like, the cranberry Sprite. I remember that. That was a big one.
A
Oh, come on. You know. You know who St. Rick is, dog. I had the cranberry Sprite commercial.
B
Wow. Dang.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's a zero, though. Healthy boys. You feel me?
A
This was. This was the peak. When I was really breaking bread. Sprite had me do this really cranberry Sprite holiday commercial.
B
These are crazy.
A
Yeah, The St. Rick's.
B
Wow.
A
They call them the St. Rick's.
B
Wow. That's nuts. I didn't know that.
A
But that was the fire Lean. Lean was cranberry.
B
Oh, my God.
A
I was a fanta dude, though. I really like fans.
B
I love Fanta, too.
A
Yeah.
B
I would love. I love the pineapple.
A
Yo.
B
But then when they came with the. When they started coming with these. With these clear cream. So, like, when Faygo did the clear cream soda, the bubble gum. I love that.
A
Yeah. Yeah. The movie theater shit, too. The freestyle. The freestyle machine. That's the best machine ever.
B
Oh. Cause they got all the zeros.
A
Yeah.
B
For the. For us. For us. Trying to keep this down.
A
Yeah. But the AMC was the best place to sip because you could just freestyle that shit.
B
Oh, yeah. You could be like, I'm gonna go with.
A
And then bloop.
B
Yeah. Boom, boom. And they had the Fanta. Like, every.
A
Every Fanta. Yeah.
B
Every Fanta.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, that was the truth.
A
But don't drink it, you know?
B
Sorry. Sorry.
A
Yeah, for real. The movie theater with the fifth, though. You still do drink? Yeah.
B
Oh, yeah, I still drink.
A
Yeah. The Freestyle Soda machine with the fifth. That's the move, bro. That's the move for all y' all kids. That's the move.
B
Stay away from me.
A
Yeah, but, yo, I feel like. I feel like we did. We're gonna have to have you as a co host more often, man.
B
I would love to, man. I had fun. I had a great meal, great conversation, you know what I'm saying? So come on, man.
A
Anytime my guy legend worthy.
B
Do it.
A
Thank you, bro.
B
Yeah. All right.
A
We're get high and make some money now.
B
Yeah, that's it.
Podcast Summary: Canal Street Dreams - Episode 27: Jay Worthy sits down for Matty Matheson's Bavette Steak
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Release Date: October 4, 2023
The episode kicks off with Eddie Huang introducing the theme: cooking Bavette steak from Matty Matheson's cookbook. Due to Matty and his wife’s hiatus for their new baby, Jay Worthy steps in as a special co-host, bringing his street legend status to the conversation.
Eddie Huang [00:04]: "This is the homies episode. We talking all kinds of things. We gonna put you on game this episode."
Jay Worthy [00:32]: "There's a legend in the house."
Eddie and Jay delve into their favorite Jordan sneakers, reminiscing about original colorways and their cultural significance. They discuss the influence of New York street culture on sneaker choices and express a preference for classic styles over trendy releases.
Jay Worthy [01:45]: "My boy Homicide, he put all type of shit on here for me."
Eddie Huang [02:24]: "I keep them on the shelf and, like, refuse to sell."
The conversation highlights a nostalgic appreciation for sneaker heritage while acknowledging a shift towards comfort and practicality in their current footwear choices.
Jay shares poignant memories from his time in New York, particularly backstage at a sold-out Griselda concert at Webster Hall. He recounts his brief but meaningful interaction with Prodigy, which tragically preceded Prodigy's untimely death.
Jay Worthy [07:38]: "Prodigy gave me his number there and, like, was like, yo, tap in."
Jay Worthy [07:56]: "He died three days later."
This segment serves as a heartfelt tribute to lost legends and underscores the impact these figures had on their lives and careers.
The hosts contrast the genuine, hustle-driven environment of New York with the often superficial and unreliable nature of Hollywood. Jay emphasizes his commitment to authenticity, highlighting the importance of keeping promises and building trust within the industry.
Jay Worthy [11:16]: "They were like, we're gonna link, we're gonna do this and nothing ever happens."
Eddie Huang [11:43]: "Out here in LA, I do be complaining... when we get legends like you or Roy Choi... it's always a good interaction."
This discussion highlights the challenges of maintaining integrity in a competitive and often deceptive industry landscape.
Jay delves into his musical tastes, expressing a preference for boogie loops and soulful, experimental beats over traditional G-Funk. He articulates his vision for rap music's future, advocating for storytelling akin to a "Pulp Fiction novel set to timeless samples."
Jay Worthy [12:51]: "This is like real 80s raw gang bangers... some are mystic and soulful and experimental."
Eddie Huang [19:22]: "All I want from rap music is basically like a Pulp Fiction novel set to, like, timeless samples."
Their conversation underscores a desire for depth and authenticity in musical expression, pushing against genre constraints.
Eddie and Jay discuss their favorite films and directors, highlighting Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction and Spike Lee's early works like She's Gotta Have It and Do the Right Thing. They praise these directors for their storytelling and cultural impact.
Eddie Huang [19:40]: "Pulp Fiction is still the best."
Jay Worthy [20:05]: "Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing is phenomenal."
This segment celebrates influential cinema that has shaped their artistic perspectives.
Reflecting on their time with Vice, Eddie and Jay share anecdotes about the vibrant party scene, including experiences with free alcohol and weed, and the camaraderie with artists like Kendrick Lamar. They reminisce about the creative energy and friendships forged during this period.
Jay Worthy [41:03]: "I would kick it, get free weed every day."
Eddie Huang [41:14]: "When Vice was popping, LA was mad fun to live on the west side."
These memories paint a picture of a dynamic and influential chapter in their careers, marked by both creativity and excess.
The hosts passionately discuss their top dining spots, particularly within the Chinese cuisine scene. They recommend establishments like Congee Village, Hua Yuan, Vibrato, and Giorgio Baldi, highlighting their exceptional dishes and ambiance.
Eddie Huang [33:24]: "Their Cantonese food is so good. So home style."
Jay Worthy [28:03]: "Vibrato is Herb Albert's Jazz and Steakhouse. It feels like you walked into the movie The Mask."
Their shared enthusiasm for quality food underscores the importance of culinary experiences in their lives.
Eddie and Jay touch on their approaches to relationships, juxtaposing "player" behaviors with more meaningful connections. They discuss the challenges of maintaining authenticity in dating and the balance between fun and commitment.
Jay Worthy [26:48]: "Sometimes I just want to do player shit. I just need a plus one."
Eddie Huang [30:14]: "The player joints that we'd be taking shorties out to on dates... they're great."
This segment explores the dynamics of personal relationships amidst their professional lifestyles.
The conversation takes a sobering turn as they discuss their experiences with substances like lean and weed. Eddie recounts severe food poisoning from a cooking episode, while Jay shares his long-term use of lean and subsequent health issues, emphasizing the importance of self-care.
Eddie Huang [38:08]: "I was literally eating off the bottom of a goat pen."
Jay Worthy [48:01]: "I drank lean for 10, 12 years straight. My stomach ain't recovered since."
Their candid discussions highlight the physical and emotional toll of substance use, advocating for awareness and moderation.
Wrapping up, Eddie and Jay express mutual respect and appreciation for each other's contributions. They hint at future collaborations, with Eddie mentioning an upcoming Vice documentary featuring Jay.
Eddie Huang [43:40]: "We are doing the Vice documentary. So please, you come to the theater."
Jay Worthy [52:10]: "I would love to, man. I had fun. Great conversation."
Their closing remarks reinforce the strong bond and collaborative spirit that define their partnership.
This episode of Canal Street Dreams offers an unfiltered glimpse into the lives of Eddie Huang and Jay Worthy, blending discussions on fashion, music, food, and personal experiences with authenticity and candidness. Their rich storytelling and mutual respect create an engaging narrative that resonates with listeners new and old.
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