101: Jeffree Star on Dramageddon, Diddy, and making MILLIONS on Tiktok

Summary

Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield Episode 101: Jeffree Starr on Dramageddon, Diddy, and Making MILLIONS on TikTok Release Date: November 13, 2024

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1. Reunion and Nostalgia (01:24 - 03:32)

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic reunion between Tana Mongeau and guest Jeffree Star. Both hosts express immense joy in reconnecting, reminiscing about their shared past and the positive energy that characterized their early interactions.

• Tana Mongeau: "It's like just seeing you makes me really feel a type of way. It transports me to a really different time of my life having you as a guest." [02:18]

• Jeffree Star: "Every time we were together it was always positive energy. We filmed the funniest videos. All we did was laugh the entire time." [02:36]

They highlight the absence of drama in their friendship, countering public perceptions that might suggest otherwise.

2. Transition Away from LA (03:33 - 05:25)

Jeffree delves into his rapid financial growth, transitioning from having $500 in 2013 to $50 million by 2015. This meteoric rise contributed to his burnout and eventual decision to leave Los Angeles.

• Jeffree Star: "I was really burnt out. All of this is so toxic. I really want to go be at peace, away from it all." [06:16]

He explains that his move to Wyoming was primarily for mental health, seeking tranquility away from the relentless scrutiny and drama of LA's influencer culture.

3. New Life in Wyoming (05:25 - 10:26)

In Wyoming, Jeffree has redefined his lifestyle, focusing on personal well-being and new business ventures. He discusses his passion for breeding animals like yaks and camels, which has expanded significantly.

• Jeffree Star: "Wyoming is peaceful. It's beautiful... I've paid so many tax dollars in this state. It's annoying that people would think that I would move to a different state to escape tax dollars." [09:56]

Jeffree also introduces his innovative business model that merges his makeup empire with his new yak meat products, creating a unique retail experience in Wyoming.

4. Embracing TikTok and Business Growth (10:26 - 24:37)

Jeffree shares his strategic pivot to TikTok, leveraging the platform's live streaming capabilities to boost his business. He highlights how TikTok allows him to engage directly with his audience, offering real-time product reviews and exclusive deals.

• Jeffree Star: "We are a store. When I'm live selling, whether I'm with a co-host or I'm by myself, people are ordering. I give really crazy discounts that you're never going to see on my site." [24:10]

He emphasizes the effectiveness of TikTok in driving sales and building a loyal customer base, contrasting it with the more time-consuming processes of YouTube content creation.

5. Reflection on Past Drama and Cancel Culture (24:37 - 43:09)

The conversation shifts to the tumultuous period known as "Dramageddon," involving infamous YouTubers like Shane Dawson and Tati Westbrook. Jeffree expresses frustration over being wrongly portrayed as a villain in these narratives.

• Jeffree Star: "It was supposed to happen. The universe gave me that challenge and we all dealt with it differently." [42:55]

He criticizes the superficial understanding of the drama by the public, revealing that behind the scenes, the situation was much more complex and emotionally taxing.

Tana and Jeffree discuss the impact of cancel culture on their careers, acknowledging the difficulty of navigating public opinion while maintaining personal integrity.

6. Moving Forward: New Ventures and Autobiography (43:09 - 65:07)

Jeffree announces his impending autobiography, which chronicles his life up until his move to Wyoming. He describes the project as both therapeutic and inspirational, intending to share untold aspects of his personal and professional journey.

• Jeffree Star: "It's very inspirational and it's very dark... I have a lot of secrets and things from my past and childhood that I'm ready to share." [64:17]

Additionally, he discusses expanding his makeup line with new products like eyebrow pencils, emphasizing innovation and quality.

7. Friendship and Collaborations (65:07 - 78:17)

The hosts reminisce about their long-standing friendship, sharing humorous and heartfelt anecdotes. They explore potential collaborations, including live-streamed makeup tutorials and battles, blending entertainment with business.

• Tana Mongeau: "We have so many questions." [72:47]

Jeffree expresses excitement about working together again, highlighting the mutual respect and bond that has endured despite past conflicts.

8. Final Thoughts and Future Plans (78:17 - 90:16)

As the episode draws to a close, Jeffree and Tana reflect on the evolution of social media platforms from long-form YouTube content to the fast-paced nature of TikTok. They express nostalgia for the past while embracing the opportunities of the present.

Jeffree discusses his plans to continue innovating within the beauty industry, including expanding his product lines and potentially publishing his autobiography. Tana shares her enthusiasm for bringing Jeffree onto future episodes, underscoring the value of their ongoing friendship.

• Jeffree Star: "Nothing defines you, and nothing is forever. And fuck everyone." [89:59]

• Tana Mongeau: "I love you so much. We love you, Jeffree Lynn." [90:00]

Conclusion

Episode 101 of "Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield" offers an in-depth look into Jeffree Star's personal and professional transformations. From leaving the high-pressure environment of Los Angeles to building a unique business in Wyoming, Jeffree shares candid insights into his journey. The hosts navigate past controversies, celebrate enduring friendships, and discuss the shifting landscape of social media influence. This episode serves as both a reflective narrative and a forward-looking discussion on resilience, innovation, and the pursuit of personal peace.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tana Mongeau: "I had no money yet and I'm like this little make a wish child coming over to Jeffree star's house." [02:18]

• Jeffree Star: "Wyoming is peaceful. It's beautiful... I just couldn't believe that we woke up and people believed it." [05:10]

• Jeffree Star: "We are a store. When I'm live selling, people are ordering. I give really crazy discounts." [24:10]

• Jeffree Star: "It's very inspirational and it's very dark... I have a lot of secrets and things from my past and childhood that I'm ready to share." [64:17]

• Jeffree Star: "Nothing defines you, and nothing is forever. And fuck everyone." [89:59]

• Tana Mongeau: "I love you so much. We love you, Jeffree Lynn." [90:00]

Transcript

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[Tana Mongeau]

Product avail Subject to change restrictions apply. C site for details hello and welcome back to the Cancel podcast.

[Jeffree Star]

Hi Jeffrey Lynn. Hi Y How are you? Oh my God. Hi. How are you?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

I needed. We really needed this.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am so happy. It's like just seeing you makes me really feel a type of way. It transports me to a really different time of my life having you as a guest. This is so iconic.

[Jeffree Star]

I really love this one. No, so when right when she said that, it triggers really good memories. I think maybe people look at us and they may think craziness, drama right away. But when every time we were together it was always positive energy. We filmed the funniest videos. All we did was laugh the entire time. So it definitely brings me back to really good times.

[Unknown]

It brings me back to good times because I was a fan at that time. So I feel like I was like.

[Jeffree Star]

And it was so cool at the.

[Tana Mongeau]

Time, like looking like, you know, you just think you know everything when you're young like that and it's like I definitely was that. But looking back it's like I was like, I had no money yet and I'm like this little make a wish child coming over to Jeffree star's house. And Jeffree's dressing me head to toe in Gucci and I'm playing with all the pinball machines and.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Roaming around. Rest in peace. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. And all the Pomeranians and just like you really.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was saying I can't breathe. I'm sorry. Me just blazing over.

[Jeffree Star]

No, but what's crazy is in that time I was newly rich. 2013. 2013, I had $500. 2015, $50 million. So it's just like crazy. And then it just kept going and going and growing and going and going and, you know, it was a really wild ride. So Tana met me when I was in love for the very first time in a brand new house. Just figuring out who the new me was. And it was so cool to be around people that didn't give a fuck, that knew just how to have fun and didn't take me that serious because I'm so sarcastic and I think people misinterpret it all the time. Fucking idiots.

[Unknown]

We're the only two who have never had any sort of beef or anything.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. People may think that we've had drama maybe because we haven't seen each other in a while. People do get confused. No one knows the real truth about any of their. Any of the past. I had to live it. So sadly I remember it all. But me and her.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have great fresher. You never forget. And I love that because I'm so the opposite. I'll call you and just be like, wait, what happened again? Like, whose drama?

[Jeffree Star]

Photographic memory.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so great.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But like, I genuinely feel like at the time it was like a whirlwind, like drama get. And everything was happening around us and everyone had beef. You know what I mean? Except for you and me.

[Jeffree Star]

We never did it.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was a bonding point.

[Jeffree Star]

Wendy Williams, rest in peace. She's still alive, but still recipes to her show. Shoot him. Shoot Kim.

[Tana Mongeau]

Clap if. What does she say? Clap if they should die. Clap.

[Unknown]

Clap if they should suffer.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, fuck. I was close. Oh, you know what my first, like, random thought was today that I just like, genuinely want to know, like, when is the last time you spoke to Shane Dawson?

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God. I was like, I was expecting a way crazier question. I was waiting for like, I was like, what is Tana's very first question? That's a really good one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, this is the foreplay, you know, really fucking.

[Jeffree Star]

I mean, listen, right now I can't believe that the conspiracy palette is about to turn five years old this week.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just used it the other day.

[Jeffree Star]

And my hair looks like, so cool. Yes. So I don't know when this is coming out, but. Right. It's in the fall and it literally came out November 1st, and then five years just blinked. Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Me and him, we were both canceled. Can't even remember why. That time the pandemic happened. He moved to Colorado, I moved to Wyoming. We both kind of left la. He lives here again. I'm never coming back.

[Tana Mongeau]

He lives here again.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I did not know that. Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

He's raised.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

When he had his kids.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. So he became a father. I have continued to just be a makeup mogul and I have no plans to have any kids. Just more dogs and a couple more husbands and athletes. Yes. We're in la. I can't wait for this to be over so I can go get.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. I'm like, stop. What are you doing?

[Jeffree Star]

Just kidding me?

[Tana Mongeau]

What are you fucking tonight?

[Jeffree Star]

Kidding. Meaning I don't want to leave here. I'll ask him how many Super bowl season. 1.

[Tana Mongeau]

Then we'll stop and that's how many rounds you'll go.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. If there's not a Super bowl ring on the hand, I can't get hard.

[Tana Mongeau]

You are.

[Unknown]

That's so inspirational.

[Tana Mongeau]

Somebody clip that, please.

[Jeffree Star]

But we haven't seen each other probably in like 10, 11 months. Yeah, we saw each other at my birthday last year. And then he became a father. He has twins.

[Unknown]

Wait, how old are they? Have you met the twins?

[Jeffree Star]

Not yet.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is so.

[Jeffree Star]

Cuz I thought he was gonna stay in Colorado and I was like, baby, I'm about to be, you know, great aunt Jeffrey Lynn. And then he moved to LA to raise the kids here and I haven't seen him in a couple months, so.

[Unknown]

I can't imagine coming back to LA to raise kids. I feel like you leave LA to raise kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's nice. Leaving LA was the best thing you ever did. And you were so ahead of the wave. Everyone was so almost confused.

[Unknown]

And now Wyoming is a trend and it's like.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, they think it is. Oh, so Wyoming. I'm December. It's my four years of living there now. Just picture four years. Isn't that crazy?

[Tana Mongeau]

Stop. It's so crazy. You and the ax. I have so many questions.

[Jeffree Star]

LA, I was really burnt out. 20 years from. You know, I'm from Huntington Beach, California. I graduated high school at 17 and I moved here and I just figured it out. I worked at the Beverly center and I was an escort. I was a hooker. I've done. I've been a makeup artist for everybody. So it was crazy to finally leave and separate. But I think that all the drama with all the people and the crazy YouTube era was really, like, the final straw for me of, like, all this is so toxic. I really want to go be at peace, away from it all. I can work and come back whenever I want, but I don't want to be around any of that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, fuck the hair gummies.

[Jeffree Star]

Fuck it. All of it. It was all so crazy. And I think when the pandemic happened, remember that old lady Tati? Remember she uploaded a second video, which is now about to, you know, be five years old. And I.

[Tana Mongeau]

After. Bye, Sister. Bye Sister is such a diabolical title too. Like, imagine really typing that and hitting publish. It's a Bye.

[Jeffree Star]

It's a really wild journey, and I think a lot of people just know a lot of, like, half truths. And I think, you know, we lived it, so we really know the behind the scenes. And there was so many. There's so many things that people don't need to know that happened before. It's all. To me. I don't want to say it's irrelevant because so many people still talk about it. It's really wild.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was a cultural.

[Jeffree Star]

It was.

[Unknown]

I remember where I was.

[Jeffree Star]

It was like the YouTube era made on CNN. 50 million views on every. It was just. It was the craziest thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

You and everyone who loved it felt like it.

[Jeffree Star]

YouTube loved it. They loved pushing out toxicity. They loved making money off of everyone's misery. They did. The old CEO at the time really pandered to a lot of that evil energy in the dark.

[Tana Mongeau]

Susan.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. Rest in peace.

[Unknown]

Did she die?

[Jeffree Star]

She did, yeah. Probably from her James Charles Karma. But anyway. Yeah. So four.

[Tana Mongeau]

Subtract the two. Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And there's just a lot of things that people don't know that I had to really just suffer through behind the scenes. So it's crazy to be here where I am now.

[Tana Mongeau]

And. What.

[Jeffree Star]

It's very weird. I'm really mentally happy. And I moved to Wyoming. I went to therapy. I sought a lot of mental health, and I really worked on myself for years.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you're just gonna say I saw a lot.

[Jeffree Star]

So a lot of. A lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

The country boys.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God. So Wyoming is the least populated state, really? Yeah. But it's the 10th biggest.

[Tana Mongeau]

And is that what drew you? Like, did you have any roots or history in Wyoming or What was the start where you were like property value? Have you money?

[Jeffree Star]

I think so. The, the rumor is that I moved there for taxes. Like, girl, I've lived in California for salt. Yeah. And Kanye. Remember that the girl that licked the toilet seat on Tick Tock made up the biggest rumor?

[Tana Mongeau]

Ava Louise.

[Unknown]

She's so good at that.

[Jeffree Star]

So, Ava, if you are watching this, thank you for that moment. That was really great that so many millions and millions of views, dollars, followers. That was really fun. You played it and still people believe it. I've met strangers and they're like, oh, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have you ever talked to Kanye about it? No, never. That's surprising.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, but we've just. It was such a bizarre rumor and I'm like. And I wish it was about someone hotter, you know, and someone that didn't have a wife and kids.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jeffree Star]

But Wyoming is peaceful. It's beautiful. Remember, I used to do music and I do music now. We just had a whole fucking reunion a couple weeks ago. It's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

So fun.

[Jeffree Star]

It was really fun. But I used to do music and I've traveled all over the country. Right. I've been to every single state. And I passed through Wyoming a bunch. We played there once. It was just so peaceful. And I had a plan. When I was older with gray hair and like 60 years old, I was going to live on a big old farm and just be by myself. And then the pandemic and all the drama made me realize I wanted to fast track that plan. That's really what it's about. It's not about money.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I've paid so many tax dollars in this state. It's annoying that people would think that I would move to a different state to escape tax dollars.

[Tana Mongeau]

Girl, you have all the money in the world.

[Jeffree Star]

That's so silly.

[Unknown]

I didn't even think that's that offensive though.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm like, yeah, but I just hate when people always make good about financial. I think maybe because I'm.

[Unknown]

I don't think you needed really help in that department, to be honest.

[Jeffree Star]

No. And it's just I really did it for my mental health. So we're four years in. I mean, it works. Yeah. And I'm raising camels and Tibetan yaks. And it's just the craziest cool experience.

[Tana Mongeau]

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[Tana Mongeau]

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[Jeffree Star]

So different. So let's say, like, we're here or I'm. We're in Vegas last week with the Crazy Warped Tour.

[Tana Mongeau]

Real text from Jeffrey. Vegas had me.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, that was so fun.

[Unknown]

She goes, you have to hear these voice memos. And that was the first one.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was like, every time I get.

[Jeffree Star]

A voice memo from you, like it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel like I should have to pay, like a $99 for it. Like, it's. It's not real.

[Jeffree Star]

So when I'm living this crazy life and I'm on the road or I'm doing podcasts, or I'm at the Crazy Warped Tour reunion, or I'm. Whatever I'm doing, I'm. I feel like I'm doing a job, but I'm still me. And then I go to Wyoming, I just take it all off and I'm in my cowboy boots, just staring at a mountain, a thousand acres to myself, and it's just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

So is it actually just you?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, that's cool. I have a ranch manager and I have a house manager that's, you know, there's someone that watches my dogs 24. 7. You know, when I'm not in town.

[Unknown]

How many do you have now?

[Jeffree Star]

Seven? Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is it still all the D names?

[Jeffree Star]

All D's? Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

What are they?

[Jeffree Star]

Well, rest in peace. My oldest passed away last year. 15 years old. Yeah. Diva. Oh, my God, that was so hard. So currently we have Drizzle, Donatella, Drama, Dessert, Dominatrix, and Da Vinci.

[Unknown]

Those are the best names I've ever heard.

[Tana Mongeau]

Da Vinci.

[Jeffree Star]

And I'm forgetting one. And I. I just can't believe forgetting.

[Tana Mongeau]

What's so funny?

[Unknown]

I get how that could happen.

[Tana Mongeau]

If I woke up tomorrow.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, no, it's delicious. I'm not forgetting one. I was just had. I had to go through the colors of my delicious.

[Tana Mongeau]

If I woke up tomorrow as Jeffree star's Pomeranian, I wouldn't ask a single question. I would be like, bring me my caviar. Let's get it pushing.

[Jeffree Star]

I just love animals.

[Tana Mongeau]

So what's up with the camels? I didn't even know that. I'm sorry.

[Jeffree Star]

I started with yaks.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

And I think a lot of people were upset when I moved to Wyoming, and I was like, hey, these are my cute little pets. And they are. But they do grow to be very massive. And I went from three yaks to like 10. And now I have 500 and 500 and. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

To 10 to 500.

[Jeffree Star]

The problem with my brain is it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

Giving $5 to 50 million.

[Jeffree Star]

And I. And I, for some reason, always make everything to a business. And I don't mean to. I just kind of make everything business oriented. So I.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's my favorite thing about.

[Jeffree Star]

So I was traveling in Colorado, the state right below it. Right. And this lady served us yak meat. Then I was like, okay, I've heard it. Yaks great. In China and Pakistan. Yak meat is. It's the healthiest red meat you can currently have in America. Right. I didn't know anything about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

What does it taste like?

[Jeffree Star]

It's like a sweeter beef. It's so yummy. It's not gamey at all. That's our biggest question.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

And we sell jerky snack sticks like. Like crack on the TikTok shop. People are buying.

[Unknown]

Yeah, people are buying yak on TikTok shop.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, they are.

[Tana Mongeau]

The fact that, like, things. Imagine telling a Victorian child, like, I sell yak meat on TikTok with mascara.

[Jeffree Star]

So I created the concept A year ago of the Jeffree star store, makeup and meat. And we opened up a.

[Tana Mongeau]

My two favorite things. If I like. If I have to keep it a.

[Jeffree Star]

Buck, like, so if you want to try Jeffrey's meat, you can come to Casper. So our newly open location in Chatsworth. Right here.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to come to Wyoming. You and I have been talking about that for, like, five years. I want to do a video where I just.

[Jeffree Star]

It's so fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

Live the fantasy. I would love to.

[Jeffree Star]

So I wanted to do, you know, as a makeup artist and someone that used to work in the malls as well. You always see women come in the store and their husbands or boyfriends immediately want to die. They're so bored. They don't know anything, and they don't care, and they're not interested. So they usually end up waiting around the store outside or just being on their phone cheating. That part. Oh, my phone just went off. So I decided to create that's somebody's husband settings is texting me. So I created the concept to sell my entire brand. The skincare, the makeup, and all the yak meat. So we sell frozen meat, we sell jerky. We sell snack sticks. We sell summer sausage. All of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

So Hickory farms is out of business.

[Jeffree Star]

There's taxidermy to look at. There's things to play with. So when the wives are getting mascara, the husbands can go try some jerky.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so it's really cool.

[Jeffree Star]

And then I also have some of my car collection in there. It's like a Museum. It's 7,000 square feet.

[Unknown]

We have to. So I at least need to see it.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, it's really cool. It's in the heart of downtown. We have the best spot. So the husbands get to look at the cart collection, taste the jerky, and their wives can shop.

[Unknown]

And they want to come back.

[Jeffree Star]

They all have a good experience.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so smart.

[Jeffree Star]

So the yak turned into pets, and they're still my pets. And I breed them for genetics. And just.

[Tana Mongeau]

If one sassy, we might make him a burger.

[Jeffree Star]

The mean ones go to the freezer. Don't you wish that was like the beauty community? Yes, I know. I know, but you. But we wouldn't. We wouldn't even want that meat.

[Tana Mongeau]

You were at all. You were cracking me the other day when you were. And I'm so. I do I. But I have to get messy. Jeffree Star is here. I don't give a. When you were coming at Michaela saying she had a teemu spray tan. I damn near passed out I needed air like and so because I'm teemu like spray tan. So coated. But like. Yeah, but.

[Jeffree Star]

But you look like a normal human skin tone. She like she looked her. I mean literally her spray tan.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, don't.

[Unknown]

Please don't show him that.

[Jeffree Star]

It looks like you stepped in oil though. Like a. Like a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Maybe you have like a good Jeffree star remover.

[Jeffree Star]

We do our makeup removing bomb. I think my problem is is what started it is that mascara gate.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. That was a year ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I can understand because obviously we.

[Jeffree Star]

Should we get down and dirty about this because it's only happened a couple days ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I am down to talk about.

[Jeffree Star]

I haven't really.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can understand how that would piss you off though, in such a visceral way. As someone who has been. You are known for being genuinely honest about quality of product and not scamming your followers and no one else is. And like I know all of that.

[Jeffree Star]

I see these people main issue was. Is a year ago. Well, first of all, we all know that I stepped down like 10 years of doing beauty content. I basically quit YouTube. Right. I barely upload. Please come back was somewhere where I really found home. And I really think Dramageddon, whatever everyone wants to call it really was the final straw for me of like I really want to remove myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

When something makes you hate something, you love that part.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. So when I went to TikTok, I wasn't fully immersed in it because remember during the pandemic I was like, nope, we're still full YouTube everyone.

[Tana Mongeau]

You don't want to let go of that too. Such a like.

[Jeffree Star]

But I also I felt as I was getting older, I didn't want to make content that I didn't enjoy. And people were just dancing all day. The dances Renegade and I have never done the walk like babe back then. I never did a dance. I never did a little skit. I never did choreography with anyone. And I just felt like, wow, this is where social media is at. I've been online for 20 plus years, like 10th grade till right in the second.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And I was not inspired. I was so bored of the dancing. So as the app started to evolve into more beauty and more content and fun lip syncing stuff and quick beauty transitions. I was like, oh, who's on this space? And I had heard of her. Obviously. I know who she was. We had spoken before and I think it's the integrity of the app that people don't care about the integrity anymore. I think that's really to the Core of it, of what's shocking to me, the audience knows she's a liar, doesn't care, and they like watching the train wreck. And I'm sure she does have hardcore fans that do believe her and buy the stuff that she's saying is great.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Would have never slid back in the day. Like, remember when Jacqueline Hill had hair in her lipstick and people were like.

[Jeffree Star]

They wanted her to die.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

They literally wanted to cancel her forever. So it's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

And now it's like everyone can do anything.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. So when the mascara thing happened, it inspired me to get back to full time reviewing and I've never let up since that video.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I.

[Jeffree Star]

And I've just been inspired ever since. And I love TikTok. I like that I can film it myself. Remember Christian, my video guy? We love him. So we still. We're about to see him this week, finally. But I don't have a videographer anymore. I don't film YouTube videos that need to be edited for hours. You know, I film a review and I move on and I.

[Tana Mongeau]

No one will ever review product like you. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Because I feel like you're unbiased probably because very. I feel like you're not money motivated because you've got it. I feel like, like the beauty community especially, like you make so much more money and makeup videos than any other.

[Jeffree Star]

And Michaela, obviously, I don't know her exact dollar amount, but I know the brand deals I was getting and I know what it's worth now and it's astronomical. And if the typical viewer knew how much money she was making off of telling the truth or lying, they would really throw up in their mouth.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

So I was very offended by the lack of integrity and the not acknowledging it. I really think that her and L'Oreal had a deal or whether she lied or. I mean, we all know she lied. She put on a false lash Ardell whisper, but she never acknowledged it. And I think L'Oreal got a really great viral moment and they were thankful for it. Whether it was staged or not, we'll never know. I've asked her in a DM to respond to me of how it happened. She refused to respond to that. Looking back a year later, the mascara is great. She didn't need to lie and she didn't need to put on the falsie. And whether it was a marketing scheme or she actually got caught in a lie, we'll never know because she won't acknowledge it. So the other day. So I do live stream on tick Tock. Now let's talk about that. Because I've been scrolling a lot and I see a lot of people hating on other creators me.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I just have. I got to put this out on the record.

[Jeffree Star]

Let's hear it. Come on.

[Unknown]

Apologize.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, here's what I'm going to say. Okay. I. It is. And I stand on this. Seeing Jason Ash panhandle was maybe one of the highlights of my year. Hilarious. The trajectory of the. You know, cheers to the fall of the Dobrik alumni. Right.

[Jeffree Star]

It is wild as a viewer to see someone that was so far up David's ass just sit on TikTok in their kitchen.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And you know, obviously like hi. And it's just. It's all insane. And I stand on that. And I see. I just see so many people who have like flight now resorting to that.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then I opened my fucking for you page and there's Ms. Jeffrey Lynn in a battle with four people in Middle America.

[Jeffree Star]

Yep.

[Tana Mongeau]

So clearly there's something we're missing. And I need cuz now I'm like did I up. Did I go too far against this? Because you're doing it if you're doing it.

[Unknown]

Some people are.

[Tana Mongeau]

Am I missing out on a business opportunity? Like suddenly I want a galaxy.

[Jeffree Star]

So you. That's only $10.

[Tana Mongeau]

But have you seen me? I've been tipping you. It's my new bit.

[Jeffree Star]

It's. I've been going in Jeffrey R. So let's deep dive into it real fast.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

Why do you think before I answer any questions about me. Why do you think people are so triggered by Jason and make a joke of it? I feel neither way. I think it's funny. There's no. It doesn't matter. There's 60 year olds that cook on livestream and they're making a lot of money, I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that feels wholesome to me. That's no longer funny.

[Jeffree Star]

But I'm going to answer a question. Even though I asked her the question, I'm going to answer it. So fucked up. Only child and Scorpio.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I love it. I love it.

[Jeffree Star]

And 80% sociopath.

[Tana Mongeau]

And save me from answering like I love 80%.

[Jeffree Star]

80%. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like 20, 30, 40.

[Jeffree Star]

So the problem is he doesn't do anything.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

That's what I was gonna say. If you're cooking, it's one thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're begging children to swipe their parents cards and they are children and all of the things that he's done wrong over the years.

[Jeffree Star]

You legally have to be 18 or up to gift. You do whether. Yes.

[Unknown]

Can they tell though?

[Jeffree Star]

No.

[Unknown]

Well, I've been 18 since like 11 on like MySpace.

[Jeffree Star]

I can't breathe. But I think the problem is I, I am an Internet dinosaur. So my logic, because people are, you know, majority people, get it. Because I am an e commerce store. So my TikTok page, minus all the fun lip syncs and makeup reviews, I am a e commerce store. Right. So when I go live, a lot of the times I am selling products for hours. QVC is what our parents used to watch when we were little kids. They turn it on. There are some old ladies showing off a diamond bracelet. 79.99.

[Tana Mongeau]

Absolutely diamond.

[Jeffree Star]

Or the face cream and the Mar k and all that. So now it's Tick tock. And if anyone's making fun of me, they're a fucking fool. Because this is the future of beauty, 100%. So we'll get into the battling and what else the app has to offer. Yes. But I, at the core of what I do, if people don't know, because there's new people that are gonna watch that maybe don't know who I am, Tick tock is I was trying to be modest, but like, it's really. People are there. There's, I mean, 3 million people go live a day and there's millions and millions of people. Yeah. Whether they have one viewer or 10,000, that app is booming and they make so much money off these creators. But we are a store. So when I'm live selling, whether I'm with a co host or I'm by myself, I mean, people are ordering. I give really crazy discounts that you're never going to see on my site.

[Unknown]

I was in there last night.

[Jeffree Star]

Instagram.

[Unknown]

He's handing out free palettes.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. Buy a palette, get a palette free. And it's only for that five hour moment. One time a week. You got to fucking be there or you're not going to get it. And there's a lot of people that don't even watch my TikToks don't know we do deals. So it's a niche market, but it's massive. The money is there. It's huge. We sell products. We are the number one or two beauty store this week. Number one again on the number one app in the world. I'm fucking so proud of it.

[Tana Mongeau]

At the end of the day, you make the best makeup.

[Jeffree Star]

So then let's, let's, let's switch to. I'm also an Internet character. I've been around For a long time. I want to learn everything. Just like the YouTube and the beauty world. I fucking immersed myself and I took that bitch over. So I'm like, okay, what are the daily ranks? What are people doing? People will do a six hour face paint on TikTok. They'll battle for 12 hours. I have a friend.

[Tana Mongeau]

What is a battle? Should have asked that before. I. Yeah, I don't know.

[Unknown]

I completely understand.

[Jeffree Star]

So, yes. So I live for you.

[Tana Mongeau]

So uninvoiced.

[Jeffree Star]

So when people. I don't get called a panhandler because I'm a real business and I show people how to make money on the app and it's really great. You can really make a really good income. Right. My friend's mom cooks.

[Unknown]

Oh, shit.

[Jeffree Star]

And she makes money just cooking instead of working, you know, as an insurance agent. She now makes way more money. Five times the amount per month. People are watching her cook and gifting and engaging with her and her chat really loves her and people really engage and they come view you every day. I probably go live four or five times a week. People look forward to it. It's entertaining. What do I do on live? I'll make bacon in the morning and make 50,000. I mean, you're so fucking.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's money there. Yes, $50,000. $50,000 alive.

[Unknown]

Well, so.

[Jeffree Star]

So that's why I'm going to say whether people want to say I'm a. Well, I don't get called a panhandler. I think that the.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're not giving.

[Unknown]

I think if we were to do it, we might be panhandling because we don't have a business that like, we're not driving people to buy from our business the way that he is. You know what I mean? So it's like if we were to do it, we're not making $50,000.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, are you making that in sales or in gifting?

[Jeffree Star]

Both. Oh, it depends. So there's sometimes where. I don't know. No, no. There's some times where I don't sell it all and I'll just make bacon in my kitchen, in my bathrobe, in my little slippers. Mink, Louie.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I was waiting for it. I was. I knew it was going.

[Jeffree Star]

We'll just hang out and I'll just chat and I'll do a Q and A and I'll just talk about my Vegas trip and what I did and. And people will gift and support. But I'm also known as one of the biggest gifters on the app. So if you deep dive and open up the live. Everyone has a gift or badge number by their name. So I'm not. We all know I give back. And I've been giving back since the day I was blessed to ever have a dollar, right? So I support small creators. I'll go in and I'll drop $5,000 on someone that's sleeping in their car on live. And like, I love to give back, right? Always. So the battling world is really interesting. So what I'm getting is I can cook bacon. I can do a. So I also do my makeup reviews live. So all the. All the tick tocks you see, I.

[Tana Mongeau]

Film those brands, I just know they're shaking.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, they do. I tag them every time. They sit there. Yes. No, they do. Yes. Yeah, yeah, they sit there. I was reviewing rare beauty last month. Selena Gomez came in the chat and she sent me her first ever gifts. I was like, it was sickening. Yeah, it was sick. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's slamming the credit card like, please love my blood.

[Jeffree Star]

So what I do now is YouTube days, right? I would go film for a couple hours. Christian would have to drive home, edit it, show me a Preview, upload the YouTube video, do the thumbnail, do the description. Girl. We're in a different fucking time now. No one's attention spans are like that, right? So I just filmed a video and I'll do it live. So I'm live streaming on the iPad, filming it on my phone and I'll just be like trying new rare beauty powder, girl. They're all glued to the screen, like, oh my God, is he going to hate it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And it's really engaging and people gift while I'm sitting there. And I've made myself a part of the daily ranks now. Me and soldier boy are the only celebrities on there. And he makes a killing, killing it. Making money like this, Lynn. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I'm gonna be live on.

[Jeffree Star]

So fun. But you have the personality. A lot of people make no money and they sit there all day and they just kind of don't do anything. And they have like 10 viewers and I just.

[Unknown]

Me.

[Jeffree Star]

I clicked that. But you have to be in the mood, like you're entertaining. And it' you know, one of my friends, she makes, you know, six figures a month and that's her entire job is battling and being a makeup artist. So the. So TikTok created battles where you could join the screen with 1v1 or 2v2, like me and you versus two other people. I'm sure you've seen the clips of Jason with on A four way or one versus one. And essentially, and this is where a lot of people. It's a. It's not controversial to me at all, but to normal folks, you know, controversial. It is controversial that two people are sitting on a screen and strangers are throwing money at them. And whoever makes the most money that battle, you obviously both get the money. But whoever gets the most points, which essentially is dollars, you win that match. Oh, TikTok has made a human video game. They are geniuses.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

America is so threatened, they want to try to remove this app because it's whatever they saying it is. It's like, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you think I would die?

[Jeffree Star]

I don't know. That's the scary part. I really don't know. We're in a very scary time, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, the lights would go off.

[Jeffree Star]

I would kill the world's fuck.

[Unknown]

I would just be stupid. I feel like everything that I know today is because of TikTok. Like I'm learning so much and.

[Jeffree Star]

And I think the government may not want us to learn all those.

[Unknown]

Making everybody.

[Jeffree Star]

You can type it in. Here's a. Want to get really fucking wacky. People don't like this at all. All you got to do is search. Have we ever been to the moon? Why is that such a hot topic? Yeah, of course we fucking haven't.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. I agree. I don't think we've ever been to the moon. Can I say that?

[Jeffree Star]

Of course you can. Anyone with common sense could tell.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think we've ever been to the moon. Who the fuck was I can fighting?

[Jeffree Star]

So here we go. So that we have to stray away from that because we'll go down that hallway too long. But the problem is, is to America, it's not a problem. It's education. And you can now go in and see old clips that old people are finding and they're uploading to the app and old footage of things from the seven and you can really learn and see. Oh, wow. Like, this is all.

[Tana Mongeau]

And people don't want that. And they don't even this Menendez brother should I think if it wasn't for Tick Tock.

[Jeffree Star]

But same with Free Britney. Tick Tock and Twitter got that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Gypsy Rose Blanchard it is.

[Jeffree Star]

Gypsy Rose went live with me until now.

[Unknown]

Did she battle you?

[Jeffree Star]

No, we just had a good conversation. People kept being like, she wants to collab. And I'm like, jeffree Star Cosmetics is not collabing with a murderer. We're not. We're not doing it this year.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to. I need, like a list of iconic things you say on today's episode. And that's one. I want her on Canceled regardless, so bad.

[Jeffree Star]

So.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I need to. I like, do.

[Jeffree Star]

So here's my issue. I'm very sarcastic and I battle and I'm live all the time. I say really crazy, funny jokes. I should have been a comedian, right? So we go. So we go live together. We have. We have a good time. I'm not gonna collab with her. She's like. I don't know if she's hinting at it, but like. And she's also learning TikTok. And imagine you're in prison for so long and the phone is so new.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God.

[Jeffree Star]

It's like, it must be such a trick.

[Unknown]

Imagine what that even feels like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

So my issue is, is that she thought I was all great, and then a couple weeks later, someone sends her a clip of a joke I made. Unfollow. She can't handle the humor.

[Unknown]

Aw, boring.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I was talking to her on FaceTime and I was like, slay mother. And I was like, wait.

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[Jeffree Star]

But Also, like the YouTube drama era, the lie is always more entertaining than the truth. Why?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's all of the media.

[Jeffree Star]

You want to really switch and be bipolar. Why did her second video hit so hard?

[Tana Mongeau]

I loved this. I loved this transition. We went Straight from.

[Jeffree Star]

I want to ask you. Why did you woman to man when she. Yes, I want to know. I've never asked anyone this question. Because you're making Tati West. Yes. You're making me reflect on a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

What was the title of the second video? Before I speak on.

[Unknown]

In the second video, she's blaming me and Shane. Shane for influencing her to make.

[Jeffree Star]

Here's the thing, just for the record, I don't feel like I need to prove myself to anyone ever. But I don't think or talk about these things often. So when I do, a lot of memories flood in. I've put a lot of this behind me. I don't think about it. It was a very dark time. My question is all. And I've never got to ask anyone this, even as a fan or a viewer, because we're both viewers of what all happened, even though we're. I was a part of it. Why do you think her second video hit? Did they just want me and Shane to be the villain for the hundredth time?

[Tana Mongeau]

I think people, even just the viewers watching the fans of Dramageddon happening, were enamored by the idea of all of YouTube's hierarchy being even. I don't want to compare it to anything that's like happening right now in the media with, like the Diddy stuff. But people are glued to the idea of the takedown of a hierarchy of anything like all the Kardashians, everyone that's going to be taken down with Diddy. People. People love to see that.

[Jeffree Star]

I was never there. By the way, I like straight rappers. I was never there. I was never there. No bunch of fucking.

[Tana Mongeau]

Honestly. Good spot. To clarify, I was gonna ask you that.

[Jeffree Star]

I think what was bizarre is me and Shane and I've never even said this on camera before. We were busy filming the conspiracy documentary we were filming for 10, 11 months. How to create a product. Our lives, all the newness of my life, my love life, my dogs, my channel, my exponential growth of my channel. The fact that anyone believed that we were bored to try to ruin someone's life on the side. When we're living our dreams, our financial dreams are. I mean, the viewers were so crazy. It was the biggest, most exciting thing me and him have ever done career wise and the most successful. I couldn't believe I woke up and people believed I'm the villain for the hundredth time. I couldn't believe it.

[Unknown]

But I think there was like a convenience and like you guys being so powerful at that time. And like, of course, on you Guys.

[Jeffree Star]

That'S why I wanted to ask you. Let me. Let me be quiet. So what do you think?

[Tana Mongeau]

She was always threatened as well. Like, even just with the sugar bear hair, like, all of that. Like, James, my gummy this. It felt like she was insecure in her spot.

[Unknown]

I was gonna say I thought that to be strange. Like, I think about it now and, like, if I had, like, a hat brand and then Tana stepped out and, like, a different hat brand because they're sending her to Coachella. Be like, slay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, who gives?

[Unknown]

Like, I don't. I didn't understand, like, why it was such a serious thing. I guess, like, people are different. But.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but it's serious that you hold.

[Unknown]

A grudge that makes you make a bye sister video. I was, like, rooted in insecure.

[Jeffree Star]

There was a lot more to it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think you also just think she was dumb and just straight up did not know how damaging it was. Maybe the first video and then was manic.

[Jeffree Star]

And I think she's one of the worst people I've ever met. So I'm not trying to say anything for her.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know if I've ever met her.

[Jeffree Star]

But it was more than the gummies. I think when you're telling a stranger, if you were to tell a stranger the story, the gummies seemed to be, like, people's catalyst of, like, this was.

[Tana Mongeau]

The root, when in reality, it was very anecdotal.

[Jeffree Star]

It was way more than that. And we were all spending a lot of time together. We learned a lot of things about a lot of things. Yeah. And me and Tati traveled to James, and we really saw.

[Tana Mongeau]

I did it at my birthday dinner.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Were you at the birthday dinner?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, I was sat right next to him. I was here. James was there.

[Tana Mongeau]

What? What?

[Jeffree Star]

And it's funny. It's a crazy meme of this because of her. No one ever heard my version. They just hear. They saw Tati's video, the birthday dinner.

[Tana Mongeau]

What actually happened at the birthday. Birthday.

[Jeffree Star]

It was the height of. It was her birthday, so it was like her friends and family and a lot of normal people. Not YouTubers, not people with a lot of money. And to me, it was that height of James's new fame, new money, going batshit crazy and not knowing how to handle it all. And it turned him. And it turned him into a monster, or he already was that. And the money amplified it, and he really thought, I have money. You're gonna sleep with me. It was very disgusting. Doesn't matter who you were. You want him you hear that creek? That's.

[Unknown]

Loud.

[Jeffree Star]

And.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's.

[Jeffree Star]

It had been so often weeks of buildup of the ego getting so dark and crazy and just so many weird things and stories coming out to us and really bizarre things. And the dinner was him at his most disgusting. And there was a 19 year old waiter who he tricked into his room later that night. And the guy said he wanted to leave. And James is like, I. I paid for this. Yeah, you have to hook up with me. I bought the room. But everyone just makes it about sucking and the memes and her stupid ass video. But it was really as someone that was there and I'm all about shock value. I'm crazy. It was just disgusting to witness because.

[Tana Mongeau]

It'S one thing to say something family there.

[Jeffree Star]

And we all know we're shocking and we can say whatever we want, but when you're at that environment, you don't say crazy. It was all just too much and it just bubbled up crazy. And we all flew home just horrified by this person. Disgusted. And I think she really felt like in her heart that exposing him as a alleged predator and all these things was going to teach him a lesson and remove him from the platform. It really wasn't about gummies. I. I think that was the start of it because to me, the gummies was loyalty.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Expect.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm gonna speak for her stupid ass talk to you. I'm gonna say, let me say, Let me say one thing for you before you die, you old witch.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just wish more people would come on Canceled.

[Jeffree Star]

She is one of the darkest people. One of the darkest people I've ever met.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really. I don't think I've ever met her.

[Unknown]

So got me with the, like the guys of being like, you know, this like a sweet older woman, middle aged. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm only being funny because people will say I'm age shaming. We're. We're really close in age. We're not. I'm not. No. Her aesthetic was the mother of YouTube and why would she be a part of any drama? And because she found out a lot of stuff about him. She knew he was evil and she wanted to remove him.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I.

[Jeffree Star]

But the gummies was about loyalty. So I think back then it was bizarre because we all kind of had each other's backs. We were all promoting each other. We all. But it was organic. It wasn't like. It was just like, we all know she's gonna come out with a beauty line. I'm gonna be the first one to let y'all know it's fucking amazing if it is. And I just think that it was bizarre for him to take a quick check when he was raking in so much money to promote something when he's did her makeup at the wedding. So it was bizarre to switch up and not promote her products. I did think it was interesting.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Because they were.

[Tana Mongeau]

They were deep and we're different. Like, it's like, I guess they're in.

[Jeffree Star]

Hawaii and he's doing her makeup at the wedding. Like, she deeply immersed herself with this kid and then found out later on. Wow. I think he's evil, Chucky.

[Unknown]

So, yeah, I get. I guess I get, like, why she'd be her. I don't know. I experienced it, like, firsthand as a, like, completely removed, like, bystander. I was a. I. Every single video, I was like, okay, wait, maybe I believe this person. Like, now I believe.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's what it ended up becoming. Is this just cluster no one knew spider web of.

[Jeffree Star]

And we're over here. Like, we just launched the biggest makeup collection in makeup history. The most palette sold in one hour, in one day. Me and Shane Dawson. What two dudes? Like, that's so crazy and beautiful. On the documentary in the second one. Right. Both of them were such massive hits. And I couldn't believe. We're in the middle of a pandemic and it's all these crazy things happening with our culture and the planet and earth and the presidency and everyone's angry. They wanted me and Shane to be the villain.

[Unknown]

Do you think it hurt? It hurt your, like, launch, or do you think it helped it?

[Jeffree Star]

The launch had already happened.

[Unknown]

It had already happened.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. So this is so November 19th.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you believe. And then, like, too close to the sun. Like, do you believe that when people fly too close to the sun? Like, you know what I mean?

[Jeffree Star]

Like, what, we got too successful.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Do you just believe in that, like, Karmatic. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jeffree Star]

With me and Shane, specifically, from the dawn of Tumblr to MySpace to this very moment, this has been our careers for some reason. Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I feel that on a smaller ways. Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

So I feel the same. And it's the roller coaster of she's the villain. They're awful. They're this. Never mind. They're great. We were wrong. And it's just been over and over.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I feel like it's so crazy mentally. Like, I. I see why you would go to Wyoming for your mental health, because even I. I struggle with that so heavily.

[Jeffree Star]

Couldn't wake up her anymore.

[Tana Mongeau]

Trying to find a way to be calm while on that roller coaster. I always use that analogy. Like, I've learned how to, like, fall asleep on a roller coaster, like, emotionally.

[Jeffree Star]

Like, we were used to it. We woke up every day not knowing what was going to happen. That fear of, like, what's going to happen today? It was awful. So I just couldn't believe that we woke up and people believed it. It was. It was crazy to me. And then it all just got so big. And it's on the news and it's on cnn and it's everywhere.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like, I guess Shane's cancellation. He ended up having another one later. Right.

[Jeffree Star]

And, like, the cat stuff, Our situations were so different.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you hate that he left the Internet, though? Do you hate. Like. Like some people would argue that it defeated him. Do you wish it. Do you know what I mean?

[Jeffree Star]

Do you wish he and I. I partially agree. I took a few weeks off and was like, wait, what did I do? Yeah, I'm not a bad person. I didn't try to take down James Charles. I haven't talked to Tati in months. He weaseled his way back in, got her to make a video about us to try to get back at us.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, you think he was behind video two?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, that's what she's told people. Yeah. That he manipulated her. It's also. It's. These people are so twisted.

[Tana Mongeau]

But your memory is so great, and.

[Jeffree Star]

I wasn't a part of any of it. That's the problem.

[Unknown]

But you got dragged.

[Jeffree Star]

So you're. So now we're five years later, you're telling me that me and Shane called her on the phone and coerced her into me? This has to be a joke. That's what I'm like. How could anyone believe that was real?

[Tana Mongeau]

Would you ever.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm over here, like, living my rockstar dreams where I'm opening up Morphe stores around the world. There's 30,000 people coming to these malls while I'm doing the ribbon cut. I don't give a. About anyone but my empire. Everything's growing. We have. I mean, it was all so beautiful, and I couldn't believe they wanted to ruin it all. Because we got so successful, the two underdogs became the biggest. We went to Walmart. 50 million views. It was untouchable. And they were so mad that the two won. It's so crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. And yes. So to answer your question, I am upset that Shane disappeared for over a year. He. He I don't know. He couldn't handle it mentally. I don't know. I'm not. I don't want to speak for him, obviously. Obviously.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love to get him on this.

[Jeffree Star]

He's a really great speaker. Have you, have you invited him here?

[Tana Mongeau]

I've like hinted at it. I. I think I'm gonna cold open, ask him again. Maybe I'll be like, hey, Jeffrey, I.

[Unknown]

Feel like you're gonna be helpful.

[Jeffree Star]

Like people just facetime him when this is over and. But it would have. Yeah, it's. If he. But I don't think he wants to talk about any of this.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's true. And I understand.

[Jeffree Star]

I think maybe. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just there will never the good stuff and the bad stuff. I think that the way that the Internet is now. Tick tock. The short form content. There will never be a time like that again where singular YouTube videos are like.

[Jeffree Star]

I think. Why do you think people are so obsessed with all of our old clips? Even the ones with the alleged.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, with James, that Jack in the Box video. It's so funny because I want to go back and re watch that video.

[Jeffree Star]

They were really good, great times.

[Unknown]

I love that video.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't remember that night. I remember you putting the Gucci shirt on all. So like, do you like what was our vibe? Because I was reading comments the other day of people saying the tension's kind of palpable. Right. Like between all of us. I like, I just don't remember that night. But I always see clips.

[Jeffree Star]

We saw each other as mutuals and he wanted to be the star of the show and he was younger and this is all so new to him and we were just there to fucking laugh and be wild and silly. And that's why we always had the best chemistry on camera.

[Unknown]

Do you think that. Well, I was gonna ask a stupid question. I was gonna say, do you think his age has anything to do with it? Like coming into success so quickly? But you did the same thing. You were really young when you.

[Jeffree Star]

But everyone handles it differently and I think the ego is his worst enemy. And I don't want to sit here and harp about this fucking idiot.

[Tana Mongeau]

I suck my own. But I do think my leading emotion genuinely from my career from the day it started to now has always been gratitude. And I was going to say that.

[Unknown]

I feel like you didn't. You like, didn't feel any sense of like, entitlement when everything was given to you because you had had nothing.

[Jeffree Star]

And I was always very humbled and it saved Me. But a lot of times you didn't.

[Unknown]

Feel like you deserved everything that you got.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it saved my life. I was like, how the fuck did this anomaly happen to me and get me out of this? Like, he grew up with loving parents and money and.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? It's. It's very different when, yeah, I feel.

[Unknown]

Like somebody like that, like, kind of just feels like deserving when. When they find the success that they, like, wanted 50% or more times when somebody becomes super successful.

[Jeffree Star]

The city's evil.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

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[Unknown]

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[Tana Mongeau]

It's the only David I'll put in my mouth. How do you feel now walking around la?

[Jeffree Star]

Uninspired.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jeffree Star]

I used to just hit Sunset Boulevard and just be like, wow. And it was all like. It was just so many hopes and dreams here. And the city used to be so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Beautiful and so fun, Genuinely fun and.

[Unknown]

Cool to be a part of.

[Jeffree Star]

That's a Big question.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's a great question.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, it's a really great question.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you.

[Jeffree Star]

For some reason, it was like the 2020. Like 20. 2012. 2012. Yeah. That. I don't know. Remember when, like, everyone just stopped being funny? That's when the cancel culture really started to creep in and no one was allowed to say jokes anymore.

[Tana Mongeau]

And phones just like I.

[Jeffree Star]

And the phones blew up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Everyone had way more. Out in LA with Paris Hilton in a flip phone. Good God. Like, best.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, Me and Paris Hilton and Kelly Osborne at the Spider Club. And we have our T mobile sidekicks.

[Unknown]

I miss my little.

[Jeffree Star]

And it was just such a different time. It was so cool.

[Tana Mongeau]

I genuinely think that I should have been in that time.

[Jeffree Star]

It was epic. And I was really young, so that's what I was. I was her age back then. I was 19 years old. Doing Kelly Osborne's makeup and going to all the clubs with the fake ID and the pink mohawk and just like. Like, it was all so new and.

[Unknown]

Crazy about how lucky you were to experience it because so many people now, like, that's what you come to LA for. And it's just not here.

[Jeffree Star]

It's not there.

[Tana Mongeau]

I remember the last time you and I went out, we went to Bootsy Bellows. This is probably like three or four years ago. And you and I were having a night like it was 2012.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I remember you and I just looking at each other and looking around and you were like this. Like this used to be, you know.

[Jeffree Star]

Like it used to be so fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And I just. I don't know, it's just weird. So. It's weird that Tick Tock is here and I. And all those old people that we've been talking about, we've had each other blocked forever. So are they running Tick Tock? I heard Tati's trying to do live stream. It's flopping.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't.

[Unknown]

I've never seen it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And James. And James has a makeup line now, 100 years later. Oh, I guess. I guess only because I'm the queen of reviewing and so many people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have you reviewed painted?

[Jeffree Star]

I can't review.

[Unknown]

It would be so viral.

[Jeffree Star]

I really. Yes, it would. But at the end of the day, it's a Patrick TA rip off. There's nothing new or inspiring about it. The packaging of his blushes are identical to Patrick T and Tom Ford O. It's boring. It's really uninspiring from what I've seen.

[Tana Mongeau]

Who does inspire you?

[Jeffree Star]

Oh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Whose makeup lines? Tell me what you. What's Jeffree star approved. What's getting you going?

[Jeffree Star]

My favorite thing is, I love that whether it's celebrity or fashion, makeup artists have makeup lines. Pat McGrath, number one. Amazing, right? I used to be little kid opening up magazines to shoot, and she. All her makeups were there. Interview magazine, the full rainbow eye. And I'm like, oh, my God. So people like her. Patrick Ta make it by Mario. I love that artists get to have their own brands now versus all these dumb celebrities. Everyone around the corner, listen, it's worked for Gaga. She's genuine, right? Selena Gomez, huge hit. Some of these people. JLo Skincare Line.

[Unknown]

What's her heart?

[Tana Mongeau]

Jayla has a skin.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't think anyone's bought it but her assistant. No one knows about it. Selena Williams.

[Tana Mongeau]

Serena Williams.

[Jeffree Star]

Serena.

[Tana Mongeau]

I gotta go. Me correcting you is also just as if.

[Jeffree Star]

Selena Gomez. No, no. Serena Williams launched a line in Ulta. A makeup line. None of y'all have tried it or heard of it, have you?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like tennis ball packaging. Like what?

[Jeffree Star]

All hot green.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is it like tennis? Okay.

[Unknown]

She's committed to her.

[Jeffree Star]

But did you know it existed?

[Unknown]

No.

[Jeffree Star]

Exactly. But you're a consumer. Even though we get our makeup done, I'm still a consumer, and I do my own makeup all the time still. And I love buying products. I'm not on all the PR lists like the other girls. I'm on half.

[Unknown]

Do you think you just get marked off every time you say something bad about.

[Jeffree Star]

No, no, no, no. There's brands that. They love the critiques, and they can handle it. And there's a core. There's core people like ELF and Patrick Ta and people that. They're not afraid of the pretend controversy of. Oh, whatever. They just. They want to know my opinions.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's true. I think you're a. You have a makeup brand you don't want. Jeffree Star. Honestly.

[Jeffree Star]

Hello.

[Unknown]

Do you find it hard ever to, like, be innovative after everybody's done everything? It feels like.

[Jeffree Star]

I think my approach to things are always so different that it's always fun. So for the very. So we're about to turn 10 years old and on Black Friday. Not crazy. 10 years of JSC. Yeah, that's. It's wild. I know.

[Unknown]

Are you gonna do something special for your 10 years?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. You coming to the party?

[Unknown]

Absolutely.

[Jeffree Star]

It's in la, so you guys.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, and I'll come these bitches up. You know, I love it.

[Jeffree Star]

That part.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it.

[Jeffree Star]

I think my approach makes things really fun. I've never put out Eyebrow products. Right. So I grew my eyebrows back. It's been two years. Now we have eyebrow. Thank you. This is my natural eyebrows.

[Tana Mongeau]

They look great.

[Jeffree Star]

The whole time she knew me, I've had him shave since 10th grade. So we have eyebrow products next year. So it's like, well, how can you make an eyebrow pencil new? New shape, different packaging, different formulas. So, like, I love it. I'm. I feel like I started the brand yesterday, and we're 10 years in, and I'm just like a little kid. I'm just like Willy Wonka.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so fun.

[Jeffree Star]

I love it. I get really giddy. I love formulating. I love flying to the labs.

[Unknown]

That's the thing that helps is just being, like, actually so handsome with your.

[Tana Mongeau]

Personality is so prevalent in your brain. Even just because I told you. I opened my conspiracy palette the other day and I was dying.

[Jeffree Star]

It's such a good palette.

[Tana Mongeau]

You gave me a shade. Crying on the couch. Couch. It's the same color as the couch. I cried.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

To Shane Dawson on. So I was crying about Tanacon. To Shane Dawson on this tan couch. And they made an eyeshadow that was the same color as the couch. Was Hunter's couch.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I opened that the other day, and I was like. And it's a great crease color. Talk about blending with. Crying on your.

[Jeffree Star]

Talk about wearability, honey. And then popping Trisha on the list.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you and Trisha.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you know, I love Trisha. I love Trisha. The people I have made it out of that time with you, Trisha, it's. It's. It's a beautiful bond that you cannot recreate. Right. And you guys have had a roller coaster of a friendship.

[Jeffree Star]

Haven't seen her in almost five years.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're about to.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, we're about to put this out.

[Tana Mongeau]

Later because I'm not trying to compete with that moment. Or maybe before. Who knows?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

This could be, like, the build that.

[Jeffree Star]

But yeah, we haven't seen each other in a long time. I think a lot of her new fans think I'm the devil. Love that. But the OG fans that watch both of us knew that at the heart of it all, there was really no drama. It was just a lot of speculation and other people chiming in, and there's a lot of ugliness. But we had the best times together. I rewatched some of our old clips. Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I like ours.

[Jeffree Star]

They're so.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can see you guys with the damn pink Bentley right now. I can.

[Jeffree Star]

Me and Esther, the Drive. Throw at Taco Bell. Her sticking her head out the window, screaming, like, so good.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm excited as to see you guys.

[Jeffree Star]

Here's something really crazy. I haven't had Taco Bell in four years.

[Tana Mongeau]

What?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. I don't eat fast food anymore.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm about to check your polls. That's all you and me would do. That makes.

[Jeffree Star]

It's horrible.

[Unknown]

I know, but it's so good.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Now you're making yak tacos.

[Jeffree Star]

I know. I don't want to be, like, a preacher of all that. But, like, I think when you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Damn.

[Jeffree Star]

But when you step away, my brain chemistry and how I think feels better from quitting fast food.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, that's the most gag thing you said to me on this couch.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. Like, what do you eating meat from an animal that's raised outside. Eating grass only versus being pumped full of things. I mean, like, McDonald's hamburgers aren't even. It's not even real meat. It's like mealworms.

[Tana Mongeau]

And we don't know that and do it anyway.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. Because we're conditioned. Since birth, our parents have been feeding us Fruit Loops with red eye with red dye in it. Yeah, same dye.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know. Those chicken nuggets are hot pink paste. Like, and I made it funny where.

[Jeffree Star]

We don't care, Right? Yeah. The same pigments that are in the blood sugar palette are in Fruit Loops and the thing. And you want a bowl right now. You.

[Tana Mongeau]

The thing is, if you cut me open right now, I'd probably bleed red 40 like it is.

[Unknown]

I just said that. There's Twinkies in my purse right now. Like, I have.

[Jeffree Star]

You want to share one? I'll eat one. I love being filled.

[Tana Mongeau]

So Right. You are a Twinkie, babe.

[Jeffree Star]

I am. Even though I'm old, I'm not a twink. I'm a Twinkie. I love that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've always said that. But, like, wait, so what made you stop? Are you like me? I'm very, like, even with alcohol, with anything. I'm cold dinner year, and I'm colder turkey.

[Jeffree Star]

Well, I just kind of stepped away and I. And I started eating really healthy out there. And my neighbors have chickens, and we're eating eggs from the chicken. I'm making you relapse from Albertsons.

[Unknown]

I guess I've.

[Jeffree Star]

Let's go in and out right now.

[Unknown]

I've never gone without it, so I almost don't know how it would feel if I, like, never consumed anything like that. But it's like. You know how people say, like, oh, you feel better if you work out and everyone's like. And then you work out and you feel amazing. Yeah, I know I would feel better.

[Jeffree Star]

So I'm not saying I won't go have in and out right now, but I just. Just Taco bell. It's just McDonald's. I should stop McDonald's. That has the E. Coli scandal.

[Unknown]

I know, but it's only like in other states.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, like Wyoming.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, what did you say?

[Jeffree Star]

Like Wyoming.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, no way.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh. Two people in Casper, Wyoming, where I live, got from the McDonald's 20 miles from my ranch.

[Tana Mongeau]

The big mack E. Coli collab is crazy. That is crazy. Crossover. Yeah, that's crazy. I never thought I'd see the day that you were not eating fast food. Like, that's just. I associate so many memories. I want to do a yak mukbang.

[Jeffree Star]

YouTube culture is me and you eating fast food. Me and Trisha at every fast food place. And it's just the yak meat's so good. Let's do a barbecue cookout.

[Tana Mongeau]

We should try.

[Jeffree Star]

If you come to Wyoming, there's six restaurants that serve the Jeffree star yak meat.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really?

[Jeffree Star]

Isn't that cool?

[Tana Mongeau]

And I never eat. Like, that's the thing. I'll eat chicken paste. And then it's like I'm like, scared to try yak. It's like, babe, I know I have.

[Unknown]

A hard time because any animal that I haven't tried yet, I'm like, oh, I feel guilty. But then it's like, I love the little videos.

[Jeffree Star]

Do you blur this later?

[Tana Mongeau]

I should, but I'm always vaping. It's so funny. The other day she was apologizing to Britney Furlan, like, dead ass. Serious. And I'm vaping and the smoke's just crossing over and all the.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I look like I have a smoke machine on me. I don't know. I shouldn't make those jokes.

[Jeffree Star]

Why not?

[Unknown]

That's what I'm saying. I thought I was being funny.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right.

[Unknown]

It can't be funny these days.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, you can. That's a good debt for you to have Jeffree star here, I think just to. I know, show you that you can.

[Jeffree Star]

Say you can be funny. And sometimes people have orange skin, orange hands. That's a really. I just said it on a live. I didn't even do a video. I didn't do anything. I was just live streaming like I always do. I was freestyling and people were asking me questions, and I was just like, you guys, these people have me blocked. I don't know what they're doing, doing. And then I saw my friend Patrick Ta launched an eyeshadow duo. People wanted to try to drag him for the price. So silly.

[Unknown]

I did see that.

[Jeffree Star]

So Michaela, who did an Elf collab, this is what started this this week, tried to compare a four dollar moment to a 42, basically saying it's comparable when it's not. I simply reviewed it and was like, this is what it is. It's great. My review really blew up. It's just her lying again and being annoying.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

So I just said a couple funny things.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Because how can you even. Obviously elf makes amazing dupes, but like, you can't compare 42 because that wire hit. That's why. Yeah, right. From elf. You think?

[Unknown]

I feel like if it's $42, there's a reason it's 42 also.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. And the cool thing is I make makeup for a living. I know his lab. I make my highlighters there. So it's cool from a manufacturer, brand owner, creator to be able to let the audience to know about ingredients and different pearls and how things are made. So they understood it. It was just funny. And I guess I was live and people clipped it and posted it on Tick Tock and I guess it's a big thing this week. But I always stand by what I say. I think she's a liar. She has a lot of advisors and they have instructed her to never address. Never address it. It will go.

[Tana Mongeau]

I hate to never address. I always have and I always will in every capacity. I like. I just, when I see these influencers, like, I don't know, I just.

[Unknown]

Sometimes they get along better than the people.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the thing, that's the frustrating thing is it feeds people to continue to do that because you see it happen so much.

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[Jeffree Star]

So, yeah, I don't, I don't hate her. I don't know her. We've spoken before. I saw her on FaceTime. We've talked in the.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did she have the orange hands on FaceTime?

[Jeffree Star]

No, she didn't have money then. And the thing is, when you're making millions of dollars a month, I don't understand why you don't look more presentable. But I think it's the stick of I'm gonna pretend to be the girl next door forever. No, you're very wealthy. Brands are paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars to say something is great and it could be great, could not be great. I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't respect liars. And I think that's what's frustrating is that people don't care anymore. So I've had to be like, okay, the integrity of the beauty community has been compromised.

[Tana Mongeau]

People. I gotta come back on that part.

[Jeffree Star]

And if people really want the truth, they know where to find it. And my views speak for themselves and.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, and they always have. And you've been very consistent with your honesty, which I've always respected. It's. It is so good. I do just want to say like I've known you for so long and you've always been in a good spot.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Unhonest about, you know, when you go through things and stuff. But like it just feels like I am talking to a Jeffrey 7.0 like you. It feels like you were just died someone. I mean you've done everything and it's cool that you're in a place where you can do whatever the you want. But what is next for Ms. Jeffrey Lynn? Like what, what. What do you want to do? What are you passionate about? What are you doing? Who are you fucking? I.

[Jeffree Star]

What would you think about if I was sucking on camera?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's actually so funny that you say that because I was just going to ask you.

[Jeffree Star]

I can't breathe.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was just going to ask you questions in that realm.

[Jeffree Star]

You've never done that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am surprised for the.

[Jeffree Star]

For an audience.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've never fucked or sucked on camera. But I would be a liar if I said that I never will. Right. Like I'm not saying I will but I'm not saying it's fully off the top.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because I. I look at the tape in the corner of my room like the hat man every day like I'm thinking about. You know what I mean? I'm just. And it's easy. It's so easy. And you know, I'm not glorifying all. I'm just saying in our personal positions.

[Jeffree Star]

And who we are and our history of online.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

And when you're not random hookers that are just gonna hop on.

[Tana Mongeau]

I look at Makoa every day and I'm like God damn, we could just run away with the money. You know. But I. But I. Knowing you when all those celebrities did of. I remember like tiger and just whatever I Was like, damn. I could see jeffree star doing this. But you're going to put a business spin on it. Go ahead, tell me what it is.

[Jeffree Star]

Well, she asked what's Next? I am 90% done with an autobiography. Don't know when it's coming out. Someone really, a really famous writer wrote it with me, and they interviewed me for, oh, almost two years, and it's just really insane. So a book of being in my mom's stomach till right before Wyoming, like, my entire life up until Wyoming is the book. It's insane. It's very inspirational. It's very dark and wow. Shockingly, even though I showed so much on my YouTube channel, every surgery, every crazy secret, every whatever, I still have a lot of secrets and things from my past and childhood. That's literally where I'm at that I'm ready to share.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yep.

[Jeffree Star]

Not to like, oh, it's spicy to make some money.

[Tana Mongeau]

I relate to so hard.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. And there's a lot of dark things and things I went through that I have never told anyone and things that happened to my family. And I just feel like it's gonna inspire a lot of people to see what I've created from the dirt. Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

I cannot wait.

[Jeffree Star]

So that's one.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't wait for the audiobook. The audiobook is crazy. Hi.

[Jeffree Star]

How are ya?

[Tana Mongeau]

I cannot wait. I really mean that. I'm so happy for you.

[Jeffree Star]

I can't wait. It was really therapeutic, too.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I'm in the writing process right now.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

As well, though. I cry over the.

[Jeffree Star]

My mother and my mom told me things I've never heard before. And I'm in my 30s, so it's like hearing new things about my pat. It was just all so healing and a wild roller coaster. So that's one wild thing we're, you know, I'm working on.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's, like, really, like.

[Jeffree Star]

Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's. I'm so, like, moved by that.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. Second on a whole other tinge is like, I have been teaching makeup for so long. I think before I get any older, I should start teaching how to succeed.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've always said that about you. I could use some. You've actually always given me, like, I even just back in the day, you were like, girl, listen.

[Jeffree Star]

So I feel like while I still look like this.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you're talking how to.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, is it one of those things where. Here's my guess. And I'm guessing you don't have to say yes or no, but I think it's going to Be. Look how long my makeup lasts.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, I mean, that's definitely a concept. Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, look at my. What my liquid lipstick can stay with.

[Jeffree Star]

Absolutely.

[Unknown]

Like trying product or like, how does this last through.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And that's real.

[Jeffree Star]

That's fun and that's cute. Right. But also people need education on what they're doing, you know, that's my version of a who's.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's like even just crazy. You have to like. It's got to be the most.

[Jeffree Star]

Did you want to see a few?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know I do. Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God. You might know a couple in here, but so fun. You listen to their music? Music. You don't know them personally. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Love always.

[Jeffree Star]

Where are the cameras? Angled, but yeah. So I think that might be a really nice adventure for me and I'm being.

[Tana Mongeau]

How serious are you?

[Jeffree Star]

Very.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I just think it'd be really fun it doing even.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just like. I've never done like tapes and stuff, but I've always loved doing of. I took a little break this summer, but it is.

[Jeffree Star]

Did you ever show. What did you show?

[Tana Mongeau]

Just like tits and ass and like no sexy videos in that way. No vagina. Like, I think that's. That's an all in or nothing for me. Like, I wouldn't be like, here's a selfie. Right. Like, it's like taper.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, you know, and I would want to like.

[Unknown]

If you're gonna do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I don't want to say. I just think she was against that, but.

[Jeffree Star]

Right. But what? Right. Because hers was stolen.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

I just.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm at the stage in my life where I. I've never cared.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And I've done so much. I've lived 10 lives and I just think, like, it's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm surprised you never just uploaded one to YouTube. Everything.

[Jeffree Star]

Huh.

[Tana Mongeau]

Genuinely, I am surprised.

[Jeffree Star]

Twitter.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God. They have strict rules.

[Unknown]

I know they do.

[Jeffree Star]

So if you guys go live. We should go live while I'm in town in la.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would love to.

[Jeffree Star]

Because there's rules and things you can't say. And you guys would get banned in like 10 minutes. I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I need the crash course. You guys know I would eat a nickname.

[Jeffree Star]

You can't, babe. But you lean off camera. Yeah, I get high. Just lean off camera.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, yeah. We call it water the plants on my channel. On my page. Yeah. You know, autobiographies, tapes, both things.

[Tana Mongeau]

I couldn't really.

[Jeffree Star]

You think people are ready for it? Like, I Yes. I just a huge. My mouth.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I think if anything, people.

[Jeffree Star]

The magic trick of it all disappearing.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're on the edge of their seat for it.

[Jeffree Star]

She needs help. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I think we all. We all could learn a few things. Maybe. I don't know. But you also make it cool to say, like, I want to starfish. And I'm like, there are people like me and Jeffrey who want to swing from it.

[Unknown]

Like, I, I, I. It's not. I don't know. I just like to lay there.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's like, you. You know what?

[Unknown]

You. How much I care about the person. Like, right now I have.

[Jeffree Star]

You're not.

[Unknown]

So now I'll do.

[Jeffree Star]

Okay. No, no, no, no. You are not the girl that these straight dudes tell me after we. Oh, my God. These. These girls just lay there like a dead.

[Unknown]

No, there is.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's a community of the layers. It's not me, baby. I'm swinging.

[Unknown]

But I'm just saying there's a very niche me. That's what I'm hearing.

[Jeffree Star]

So you're not the girl hanging off the side of the bed upside down, getting skull.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I've got that cover.

[Unknown]

I will if I care about the person, but more often than not, I don't right now. I care about the person, so I'll do whatever he needs me to do or wants me to do.

[Tana Mongeau]

I also hit my max on that and I had to dial it back same. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, whoa, wait.

[Jeffree Star]

Well, I think can't walk. It's fun to have hoe phases on and off, whatever you're in the mood for. You go through phases in life of just having a lot of fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

And Are you in a whole phase right now?

[Jeffree Star]

No.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. So what are you looking for in. So I don't. Did you date? Can I even say his name?

[Jeffree Star]

Who?

[Tana Mongeau]

I. Can I say your ex? Your famous ex's name. Should we give him. Let's go.

[Jeffree Star]

No, I'm Voldemort. The beauty industry of that who not should be spoken.

[Tana Mongeau]

So, Nate. After dating Nate, did you get in any other serious relationships?

[Jeffree Star]

Nothing.

[Tana Mongeau]

It probably taught you about not being as public.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. So obviously that relationship was really serious. Right. He met me when I barely had any money. And the people saw the growth of everything from kind of first meeting till the end on YouTube. And I think I just showed a lot. Right. And I've always showed a lot. And I think moving forward, I probably wouldn't do that again. And I don't think it was a Negative at all. I just think the older I get, I enjoy a little bit more privacy, you know? So after that serious, amazing relationship, I never went fully in that hard with any one I dated. I've had fun with people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Probably had your guard up as well. Duh, duh.

[Unknown]

I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Probably had your guard up like. But it's just.

[Jeffree Star]

Where's that pen? You need a hit. No, you don't. You'll get mark.

[Tana Mongeau]

You see, I can't imagine what type thc is in jeffree star's pen. Like, I would see the hat man. I would go non verbal behind you.

[Jeffree Star]

We'll cut this part out. I don't give a. I could be sitting on it. Oh, thank you, Jeffrey.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm. I want to upload this raw. Like, I love everything.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, I love that we're all. We love it raw.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love it raw.

[Jeffree Star]

So, yeah, I think right now I'm really busy with my career. I am hanging out with someone. We're enjoying each other's time, but I'm not. I'm not dating anyone.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, it's probably. It was so hard for you because when someone loves you.

[Jeffree Star]

Don't believe me.

[Tana Mongeau]

When someone has like loves you when you don't have anything to offer them and then that goes crazy. And you now you, like, you're never gonna be that Jeffrey again. You have to have your guard up tenfold. What are you looking for? And do you see yourself ever settling down and marrying one person?

[Jeffree Star]

I don't know. I'm at this really weird crossroads where I'm not searching for anything. I'm not lonely and I'm having the time of my life. I'm hanging out with someone and enjoying their time. And I travel a lot, so I'm really not like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you fly commercial ever?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't imagine seeing jeffree star on like.

[Jeffree Star]

Did you see that tick tock of me in commercial?

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm gonna show it to you. It's so funny. Recently a dad filmed me because he recognized me from his. His daughter was watching me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And when you're in Casper, wyoming, let's say you're going to fly to la. You always have to stop in Denver or salt lake because Our town is 60,000 people. It's tiny. So you know those. The jumper planes where there's no first class or economy. It's just like 50 seats. So someone filmed me being like, oh, is he going through financial issues? And I'm like, what are you talking? And so I responded to it like, your dad wants to fucking me. That's why he was filming me. That's what's going on here. And I was like, Nope, there's only 50 seats in the plane. I was in 2A. But there's no. It was just so weird. But, yeah, I'm Delta360, Diamond Masallian missing. I love a good Delta moment.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so good.

[Jeffree Star]

But no, I'm not. I'm not looking for love. I think whatever is going to happen or will drop down my throat. Will and. Yeah, but I'm over the whole phase right now and I'm just chilling.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's good. Yeah, we have a lot going on.

[Jeffree Star]

But people are enamored with my tick tock crush. They are?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Wait, no way. Is it the guy that you post? You guys were like, lifting each other or something?

[Jeffree Star]

He was lifting me?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, we're. We're best friends and we have fun. What would you call that?

[Tana Mongeau]

A relationship? Yes. But that's crazy. That's good.

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[Tana Mongeau]

What makes you guys best friends? How'd you meet?

[Jeffree Star]

You're gonna. You're gonna rip your hair out.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Jeffree Star]

TikTok.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did you ever think, though?

[Jeffree Star]

So here's the thing, though. Let me say one thing. No, I did think, because I've never been on a dating app. So when me and Nathan, I felt like it was the height of. That was five years. So it was like five years ago. Four or five years. I feel like that was like the height of dating apps. I've never been on a straight or gay dating app. Never been on Grindr, never been on anything else.

[Tana Mongeau]

I couldn't even imagine. Imagine being on Grindr and just swiping.

[Jeffree Star]

And there's me. Hello.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like the.

[Jeffree Star]

I met Nate on Instagram and I met. You know, I've met a few guys on TikTok.

[Unknown]

I think Instagram.

[Tana Mongeau]

TikTok is like a dating app. When I was single, I would save the men in a folder just titled Men.

[Unknown]

There's folders like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you can make folders and collections of what you say.

[Jeffree Star]

But see, the thing is, I think when you guys were interviewing, introduced to battling in the Jason Nash world, you're like, this is so stupid. But like, when you're in Wyoming bored sometimes and you've already done your thing. You've made a lot of money. Battling is also fun and people love gifting. It's like, like I said, I do love the serotonin is a video game. It's so fun and I love playing and being live is better. Battling being live.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're doing a live after this. But. And that's the thing. If we do well, I guess it's yeah. But I do love.

[Jeffree Star]

I want to pop in on it.

[Tana Mongeau]

You should. I would love it. I would. Absolutely. We should do a battle moment or something.

[Jeffree Star]

If you go live for a little bit and I'll teach you how to do it. And I'm like, okay, I want to battle someone. And there's already a couple people in the room. Like, you know, because there's so there's like famous tick tockers that aren't doing dancing or creating content. It's only in the live stream world. There's big creators that are always at the top with me and but they're regular ass strange in their house with.

[Tana Mongeau]

Their kids and personality about their lives and so fun.

[Jeffree Star]

So I think it'd be fun. What I'm saying is this to bring you in randomly but it's planned.

[Tana Mongeau]

Uh huh.

[Jeffree Star]

Like okay, I'm going to bring in a partner because we would battle them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God.

[Jeffree Star]

And then you just pop up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Imagine just being a girl in like Tampa, Florida and then Tana Mongeau and Jeffree Star are battling you for galaxies.

[Jeffree Star]

Like that's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'd be so scared.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh no, no, no.

[Unknown]

That's unfair.

[Jeffree Star]

No, no, no. Our team throws lions, universes and Pegasus. Yeah. Unlike Jason's team. My team. My team, they go a little heavier.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Jeffree Star]

Pegasus, we don't focus on child support. We focus on real money. Yeah.

[Unknown]

I don't even know what a Pegasus is.

[Jeffree Star]

It's the highest gift you can send on the app.

[Tana Mongeau]

How much does it cost?

[Jeffree Star]

So it costs like 800. But the trick is it's a gift only for level 50s. There's only 20 level 50s in all of America and you have to spend over a million dollars on the app. And I have two accounts that are low level 50.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're so. You're 50.

[Unknown]

That's amazing.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're so like.

[Jeffree Star]

That is so about 20 people in America can send that Pegasus. Jason's never seen one. Let's be honest, no one I saw.

[Tana Mongeau]

Alyssa Violet was going live too. Now like she hopped on the train.

[Jeffree Star]

It's also really fun. I think when you look at other people, you can. Like, I have the best time.

[Tana Mongeau]

Any of the best fans. Like, the conversations.

[Unknown]

I was having a good time in there last night. I was like, oh, you know, when.

[Jeffree Star]

You'Re on Patreon, I'll go live for 10 minutes here. And people would die. Like, people just love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. It is so fun. Stop. That is. It's so exciting.

[Jeffree Star]

It's really. And the battling is really fun. It can be.

[Tana Mongeau]

I. It's just so awesome.

[Unknown]

I never spend a lot of time on the live page and I never.

[Jeffree Star]

Like, really see anything because it's all about banter. Like, people. I'm. I play a character. Like, I'm me, obviously, and I have friends on there and we all hang out in Kiki. But, like, if I'm battling other, like, dudes or people, I get vicious and they get vicious back. They go in on each other's look. So we all go like, we're fucking vicious.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so fun. You're right. I could really just.

[Jeffree Star]

People love gifting heavier because I'll see these dudes on the screen. I'm like, your hairline's fucked. That's how I start the match. Like, they'll come on the screen. I'll be like, oof. Need a lot of them already live that I'm on the screen and I'm just immediate head cut off.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, stop. That is so fun. I would absolutely love.

[Jeffree Star]

So it's just like, I love to get.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love that you're in every avenue right now of it. Like, the reinvention. It's so important.

[Unknown]

Do you think it's because you don't eat fast food that you have all this energy?

[Jeffree Star]

Maybe I'm gonna try it, or I don't know. Or it could be being happy. I think I was really miserable towards the end of my LA journey. Right. I think the pandemic ruined so much.

[Tana Mongeau]

And had you stayed, like, where would you be now? You'd probably be in a cult, like Michelle fan.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Is she actually in a cult?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Michelle Fawn's in a cult, I guess. And someone has her beauty line still. No, I've never seen anyone wear her makeup before. It's M. Beauty.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh. I've only ever known about Ipsy. I didn't even know she had a makeup line. But okay. So that she's. You just made light of this to me. But apparently she's interviewing Tati and she's still around, but all the clips I've seen, she's like, not there. It's what is the.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't know. It's like a vacant version of her and she got involved with something.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you think people are controlling her?

[Jeffree Star]

I don't know. It's bizarre. I just don't think. No offense, because she is an OG and I don't want to disrespect her. I've never said anything bad about her, and I don't want to. Is. I don't think that she's relevant anymore. Her opinion is not relevant. And that's not saying in a negative way, like, fuck her. It's just a fact.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't think anyone is seeking out to see if she approves of the new makeup by Mario palette. I don't think anyone cares because was.

[Tana Mongeau]

She ever known for, like, reviewing? She was almost known for, like, turning.

[Jeffree Star]

Herself into, like, transformation.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. So different.

[Jeffree Star]

And she was at the forefront. And to me, she was the first beauty YouTuber ever. Yeah. OG. Much respect to her. I didn't mean that in a negative way. It's just. I think her time has passed. Stop it right now. I mean, listen, I was sitting in a 25,000 square foot house by myself and my dogs, and I was like, I'm bored. I don't. I didn't want.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can only have Tana Mongeau come over and eat Jack in the Box so many times.

[Jeffree Star]

It kind of wears thin. But it's also hard to look at a stranger and be like, the glass elevator and the theater got old. It's like, no having so much and stuff that I thought I needed to fill a void got old. And then once I woke up and had an ego death and realized I didn't need anything but myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sold the pinball machines.

[Jeffree Star]

Didn't I have them all still? I do.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's really good.

[Jeffree Star]

But I sold, like 90 of my clothes. I sold a lot of stuff. I shed a lot of things.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm in that era right now as well. It's just. You realize.

[Jeffree Star]

You don't.

[Unknown]

I'm big on that. Travel light through life.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is beautiful.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And Hollywood can just get so dark, and you probably saw so much of the darkness of it, and it's. I'm just. Good for you for getting the out. You know what I want to ask you about, actually, I think Jeffrey would be a really good person to ask about this. We've been talking about it a bunch lately. Tunnels under Hollywood.

[Jeffree Star]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you believe in them? Do you think they exist? Have you been to them?

[Jeffree Star]

They're real.

[Unknown]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

I knew I would piss.

[Unknown]

I'm not invited to. Nobody's even thought to tell me about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Keep going.

[Jeffree Star]

Well, there's so many different tunnels. Because the old days, I mean, really, we built our city on top of a city that kind of already existed. So there's just a lot under there.

[Tana Mongeau]

And do you think celebrities really use them? Do you think people really use them?

[Jeffree Star]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you think it's the 1%? Like, you think it's just like the.

[Jeffree Star]

It's definitely the 1%. And the problem is, is I've been invited to these scenarios, and I've. I've felt like the sickest, most lead cancerous feeling ever, and I've never gone down those routes, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

Same with, like, Illuminati stuff. I'm sure you're gonna say the same thing. It's real. You've seen it, but you didn't want to take a part in it. There was. Because there was a while where people really thought you were Illuminati. Honestly, I was people.

[Jeffree Star]

We may still hang out sometimes. I'm just not gonna be a Hollywood puppet and entertain anything dark or illegal. They tried to blackmail and coerce me over and over and over to do horrible things, and I'm just not a horrible person.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you obviously believe all of this Diddy stuff is real and darker than it's even shown.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes, and I'm glad people are finally seeing it. I think when they saw him viciously assault Cassie, it all made sense because all we do is know his music and he's great. And then I think when you actually see someone as a monster, it's like, holy fuck. Like, yeah, horrible.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's crazy. Jeffree star.

[Jeffree Star]

That video ruined my month when I saw it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, horrible. But.

[Unknown]

So it was almost like, nothing positive about it, but I was happy that she was validated because I was reading her comments, like, right after she had sued him and got, like, pennies. But, like, comparatively. And everyone's like, you were out for a check. You're so pathetic. Disgusting, lying. And immediately after, it's funny, it's all like, go back and delete your comments. You guys are so embarrassing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but it's satisfuck.

[Unknown]

But it was, like, very weird. Like, not that I would want anybody to have a video like that, but it's.

[Jeffree Star]

It was like, I'm. I'm thankful there was proof to validate, because when women aren't heard, I think that's the worst case scenario is when someone doesn't believe someone.

[Unknown]

That is actually when someone's so Powerful. You assume that they. Or like people.

[Jeffree Star]

I mean, listen, I. I fully believe Diddy killed Tupac, so it's like, I'm sure she knew all of that. You don't think he's in bed laughing about that once that NDA ink dries?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And they're not sitting in bed one day and he's like, that was enough.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's. That's beautiful. Yeah. So, yeah, Kim Porter, right? She.

[Jeffree Star]

They offed her. Absolutely. Allegedly. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Does it ever scare you to say things like this?

[Jeffree Star]

But I guess I have no fear, which is why I don't think they've taken me out. I just didn't want to play the games or be a puppet.

[Tana Mongeau]

The devil works hard, but Jeffree Star works harder.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I've sucked the devil off. He's not bad. He's kind of boring.

[Tana Mongeau]

Third clip.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, I love you so much. Jeffree Star.

[Jeffree Star]

We all have it.

[Tana Mongeau]

What show?

[Jeffree Star]

Now we all have it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't see it. Oh, the 660. When did you get that? Did you get that during, like, your MySpace era?

[Jeffree Star]

No. So I didn't get indicted? No. The drummer of Metallica and Kat Von D actually did that on me. It's a really cool story.

[Tana Mongeau]

How are you and Ms. Von D? I forgot about.

[Jeffree Star]

We're still best friends. Shut the up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, you're. You're. No, you're lying. You're not.

[Jeffree Star]

Haven't talked in so long.

[Tana Mongeau]

I saw her on Theo Vaughn and I was like, whoa. Like, I just forgot.

[Jeffree Star]

Like, I forgot she existed. I know, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's what we need is you on the ovon. Jesus.

[Jeffree Star]

So two days ago, I just saw him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, we just hung out at a bar. He did a show in Casper, Wyoming. He had the whole arena sold out in my little hometown. And he was so fucking funny. He's also a client of ours. We. You know, we own Killer merch.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

Me and Mark and a friend, we print merch for array of UFC influencers.

[Tana Mongeau]

Always have. And you've always killed it. No pun intended.

[Jeffree Star]

Comedians.

[Unknown]

I would love to see you on this past weekend again. I feel like it'd be. He has the best. He has questions nobody would ever think.

[Jeffree Star]

To ask, and I love that. Did you watch the cat interview? Was it good?

[Tana Mongeau]

I. They were talking about, like, ghosts, and it was. I think the ovon could interview a blender.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

Isn't it bizarre? Because you guys have all had best friends for a long time, and then all of a sudden you don't talk anymore. It's bizarre that she was such a big part of my life.

[Unknown]

Was there falling out or was it just like, oh, am I dumb?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think Jeffrey's ever just peacefully walked away with anyone like, you know.

[Unknown]

And that some people you just grow apart.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jeffree Star]

This was like 2016. So you missed that, thankfully.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it was before Dramageddon. That was.

[Jeffree Star]

I remember it was way before. It was actually one of the first real big drama moments I had in my career. Because someone who is never in drama came out and tried to disparage and ruin my career and say a bunch of lies.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And someone you loved so much.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes. Best friend of 12 years went on camera all weirded out and made a weird salacious video about me.

[Unknown]

How crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so crazy how many lives you've lived. Like the MySpace era, even just one of the.

[Unknown]

That's when I first knew of you.

[Jeffree Star]

So we were just in Vegas at the When We Were Young festival with Mike Emblem Romance and Pierce the Veil and all these bands band and it's like it was the best.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've been dying to go to that festival.

[Jeffree Star]

Those were the best times. Being on the bands Warp tour, being in tour buses.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you think about all these like, tick tock boys now being like punk? Because you. You are punk. Listen, like, you know punk.

[Jeffree Star]

They're wearing a costume. It's cute. Let's see what happens.

[Tana Mongeau]

It used to be crazy Ozzy Osborne on the walls, you know, like. Yes. God. What did you. What's the craziest you saw in that time? Like, just like, oh my God.

[Jeffree Star]

Just people just being rock stars and just being outlandish and it was so fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

What's the craziest thing you ever did as a rock star?

[Jeffree Star]

What is your version of crazy?

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, when I think punk and crazy, I do think about the Motley Cruz of it all and the Ozzy Osbournes of it all. And the toilet.

[Jeffree Star]

I've never done anything. I don't know. I think people think I'm gonna say something really wild. But I don't know.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just.

[Jeffree Star]

I just like a lot of fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

You know, nothing like getting and banged out in Paris.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I've always said, yeah, in Paris specifically. That's where I had my final hurrah. Yeah.

[Unknown]

I double ended Delta.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love it.

[Jeffree Star]

I've been on Air France just sucking.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Absolutely. They have great food too.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh my God. It's a beautiful experience. The private jet just swallowing loads.

[Tana Mongeau]

Stop it now.

[Jeffree Star]

He gets it.

[Tana Mongeau]

We Just did that. So music though like. Well you. You just said you were. You just immerse yourself back.

[Jeffree Star]

We just put out a couple new songs. I haven't recorded music in 12 years and my first album just turned 15 years old. Beauty killer.

[Unknown]

So many birthdays happening.

[Jeffree Star]

I know I was one of the first people.

[Unknown]

Did it just pass or is it.

[Jeffree Star]

Coming out November 15th?

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm November 26th.

[Unknown]

Oh really?

[Jeffree Star]

Okay. So we just celebrated. It's 15 years old. It has Nicki Minaj on it and a bunch of people.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wow, that's so fun.

[Jeffree Star]

It's hot. So we re recorded a song and made it country and I recorded two new songs and one of them.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're out or they're not out.

[Jeffree Star]

They're out right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't wait to stream.

[Jeffree Star]

They're really good.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, to stream?

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, there's so there's three new songs.

[Unknown]

How exciting. Are you country now that you're in Wyoming?

[Jeffree Star]

I really love. So there is a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too.

[Jeffree Star]

And then there's two dance rappy songs. One's called hi, how are you and then. And then there's another one called Red Lipstick featuring Yellow Wolf, the amazing rapper.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is so amazing. This is so amazing. I love love to my cobain. That's beautiful.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, we re released that it's called Lollipop Killer, the little ep.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. It's so you're inspiring me in so many ways. You always have inspired.

[Jeffree Star]

She did music before people loved our. I just did music before her era.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would. I might delve back into all of it. I'm revisiting so many things that I never thought I would like do a song together. And a YouTube moment. And a YouTube moment. I. I know that long form videos are never going to do what short form does now, but I love it. I'm going to.

[Unknown]

I love it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Dive head first back to YouTube.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

For my OGs and I'm. I would love to do something with you like just play it later.

[Jeffree Star]

It's fine.

[Tana Mongeau]

What'd you say?

[Jeffree Star]

You have to play the songs later. They're fun.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am listening to all. I know your copyright strike me so I'll wait.

[Jeffree Star]

No, you can put them in here if you want. We can give you the.

[Tana Mongeau]

The go ahead.

[Jeffree Star]

The white label. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Oh my God. Stop it. But I'm serious. I do want to revisit YouTube and we gotta. I want to come to Wyoming.

[Jeffree Star]

Please.

[Tana Mongeau]

I really.

[Jeffree Star]

I think a lot of people come out and visit. You'd be surprised. A lot of tick tockers have Been out there a lot of streamers. A lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, wow. I thought it was. I thought it was more exclusive. And I had to beg. Bitch, I'm coming.

[Unknown]

Well, everyone goes. How far are you from Jackson?

[Jeffree Star]

Five hours.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love. Only because the story you said. Hold on.

[Unknown]

I just keep hearing Wyoming. That's where everyone goes on their little ranch vacation.

[Tana Mongeau]

We really should do.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, I would love to. I love it out there.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm just. Wow, Jeffrey, you're. You're killing it. And I. We've always been killing it.

[Jeffree Star]

Cockroaches.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I can't. And you can't kill us. And it's.

[Jeffree Star]

You can't. We're not going anywhere.

[Tana Mongeau]

It makes me so happy that all these years later, I've just always been able to call you a friend and like, still can. I could sit and talk to you for eight hours, but. And I would love to have you on anytime you want. And I just. I'm like, I'll be a little co host this. We would love it. I would absolutely love it. And I just love you so much. I really do. All of the things. Go watch the lives. Go buy the products. Go. You don't need any promotion from us. But I will be reading that book and watching us streaming that music and all of them.

[Unknown]

And I'm watching the tutorial that you're gonna post that part.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, yeah. Yes. Had a deep throat and I'm.

[Unknown]

God, it's so Deep Throat 101.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm so excited for you and Trisha to have your moment. Two of the three of us should do something. It just feels good to. I'm so happy that we're out of all the toxicity of those eras and we've all grown so much, but the small parts that we're able to hold on to that are we all so beautiful.

[Jeffree Star]

Great memories.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's. It really. Every time I see those. Those clips, it like it makes me so happy. And you didn't have to welcome me in and I wasn't even a beauty guru. You didn't have to remake my how to cake your face like a Pro and get 30 million views.

[Jeffree Star]

When I met her, it was just like. We really just clicked. Have you seen old clips of us?

[Unknown]

Of course. I was watching it in real time.

[Jeffree Star]

That's so cool.

[Unknown]

There's no old clips for me. I was there.

[Tana Mongeau]

But now we are in just a new era and life is beautiful.

[Unknown]

I love to see it. I feel like it's so cool. Like it's just cool to see.

[Jeffree Star]

Listen, our final Thoughts are. Nothing defines you, and nothing is forever. And fuck everyone.

[Tana Mongeau]

I could.

[Unknown]

I needed that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I couldn't agree more. I think you are the perfect guest for this time. Like, I'm genuine. I like tearing up. Like, I'm so fucking. Like, just. Wow. I'm really happy to have you. And thank you. Episodes like this also make doing this podcast feel worth.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, thank you.

[Jeffree Star]

Of course.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't think enough. And I'm coming to see the axe bitch.

[Jeffree Star]

Oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can tell you. I know Mike Snedger told you about how I showed to Jeffree star makeup brush up my ass, but that's a different story.

[Jeffree Star]

That's for a different time.

[Unknown]

It's my favorite part of the show.

[Jeffree Star]

I've been telling me I didn't obviously expect that story.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

I was like, hi.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's actually how we started talking, because, Mike, because on stage, on tour, I've been telling the story about how I shoved a Jeffree Star X Morphe makeup brush up my ass when I was tripping with tarte and Turks and Caicos and why I had to shove it up my ass. And so I think, baby, it's just so recognized. I was trying to remove something out of my ass, like a cake pop with a Jeffree Star X Morphe pointed eyeshadow brush that you carve your crease with.

[Jeffree Star]

And Morphe still owes me money.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. Well, what?

[Jeffree Star]

Let me stop the bankruptcy. I'll never get my 1.6 million. Yeah, that's how much they owed me before they filed.

[Tana Mongeau]

How does that work? You're doing a collab with Morphe. They owe you this.

[Jeffree Star]

Like, obviously, I've got. I got paid several times, and then the next payment was the 1.8, they decided, well, the new CEO fell into cancel culture. Right. That was. That was way past that. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, whatever. And at the end of the day, they owe me and a bunch of people money. Still were never gonna get it. They filed for bankruptcy and they.

[Unknown]

I can't believe that's allowed, but I guess there's nothing you can really do about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

But then it's like they're just moving forward, paying other creators.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

How did that make.

[Unknown]

I don't know, like, back pay situation?

[Tana Mongeau]

We just had the.

[Unknown]

Did you get canceled? Is that.

[Jeffree Star]

No.

[Unknown]

Well, you were saying they fell into cancel culture.

[Jeffree Star]

Culture meaning, like, they decided not to work with me over the second video.

[Unknown]

Oh.

[Jeffree Star]

When the second video came out and I got canceled and Morphe didn't want to work with me. What did I do wrong? Like to the core of it. What did people think that I did wrong? They just thought. They just thought I was a shitty person.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'll never know. But it is just nuts with canceled culture and just.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't know what did I do?

[Tana Mongeau]

Like you would.

[Jeffree Star]

I've done a lot of things wrong that. That I've apologized for. Moved past this specific moment in time was so bizarre.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you hold resentment towards what? Just that like.

[Jeffree Star]

I'm like. Like what? No, I don't.

[Tana Mongeau]

That makes me happy. That makes me.

[Jeffree Star]

I've healed them move past it. It was. It was a crazy scenario. It was obviously supposed to happen. The universe gave me that challenge and we all dealt with it differently. But looking back at Jesus. Just wish. I don't know that I think saying you wish things would have happened differently is just selfish and everything's supposed to happen how it was. But I wish people could have saw it with a different eye.

[Tana Mongeau]

It will forever be a polarizing moment in Internet pop culture history. But I agree with you that I think it needed to happen and I think that.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. And people miss that era. So with. With me and Michaela, whatever it is that's happening. All I did was speak my opinion and it's obviously turned to really massive thing on Tick Tock. Right. I think the thing is is that people in the comments are saying they miss our old era. Like they don't. There's no new rising. There's no new rising beauty stars and there's no big. There's not many creators. It's me, her and a couple girls. So it's like the beauty community is so small and lacking new blood. Cool people. The OGs all suck.

[Tana Mongeau]

Damn. Maybe I'll pop out and be a beautiful. Let's make a lip liner. If he doesn't want to.

[Jeffree Star]

That part like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like my bad. It's so.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. I don't know. It's in a weird time and I think a lot of people missed that era because it was so engaging and there was so much happening and there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Were really genuinely on YouTube maybe 25 to 30 creators that were really doing it and people were really attached to. It's just now with short form content it's so over saturated that the. It's too easy now to love and fall in love with someone in their weekly video in their life. I don't think it will ever happen again in that way. And it. It is nostalgic and almost sad. Like I even dude like as this makes. I can't even believe I'm saying this out loud, but I miss like Logan Paul's vlogs. I like I would wait on them every week like they're just yours and different entertainment.

[Jeffree Star]

And then Shane came in with the long form.

[Tana Mongeau]

The documentaries when an episode of Shane Dawson's documentary had just dropped will never be recreated again in my opinion, ever. And it, it is like it makes me sad. I don't know why, but I do have such an attachment to that era forever.

[Unknown]

I almost feel like when long form you got to know someone a lot better. So now like people are attached to you still because they know so much about your life. I feel like any beauty people like you only know that they're doing makeup and that's it. I need to know everything about your life.

[Tana Mongeau]

And people just aren't entertaining enough to make a 20 minute video. You know, going to Walmart right like now it's like it's, it's just tick tock. It's just a different time.

[Jeffree Star]

The only videos that I'm enjoying watching are the two grown men that find pedophiles and beat the out of them.

[Tana Mongeau]

Modern day Chris Hansen.

[Jeffree Star]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, I didn't know. I thought you were gonna say the Costco guys.

[Jeffree Star]

No, these dudes, they, you know, they obviously they're decoys and then they, they go to wherever it is Walmart and they're filming and they upload all the clips to Twitter beating the out of them. They don't care. The old days, people just film like, okay, Chris Hansen, you're gonna go to jail. These dudes, they start beating him on the side of the head. They start punching the.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's honestly fucking the one from yesterday.

[Jeffree Star]

I have to show you guys later, he takes a pumpkin and mashes on the guy's head and he's so fucked on the ground just like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Jeffree Star]

And he wanted an 11 year old. You should be fucking.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Oh absolutely. Damn, that's lit. That is.

[Jeffree Star]

By the way, when I lived in LA I had one gun. Now that I live in Wyoming, I have 150 firearms.

[Tana Mongeau]

How are you? I want to get one so bad.

[Jeffree Star]

Please come to a photo shoot with my Israeli AK47.

[Tana Mongeau]

I need to show you my stalker. It's actually.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah. Yes. We have 100 ars pink gold plated the and we're also allowed to have silencers on suppressors on our guns. So I have 50 of those.

[Tana Mongeau]

Holy.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like I wanted a gun because my stalker, I'm so scared. This man's gonna kill me. And it's like, yes, I have security with guns outside, but there's something about if I could sleep with it in my nightstand and should get one. We should do like a. There was an era of my life where I didn't need to have a gun. And everyone.

[Jeffree Star]

Yeah, I'll help you get one.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's so fun. We should have, like, little. Little pink.

[Jeffree Star]

You guys go live at 6.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Jeffree Star]

We have to do a couple of tick tocks. We have to.

[Tana Mongeau]

We have to. Let's do it. Jeffrey. Jeffrey.

[Jeffree Star]

Lynn, wait.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you.

[Jeffree Star]

Okay. I love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

We'll do our outro.

[Jeffree Star]

The bad lighting's coming in. No.

[Unknown]

You look gorgeous from my angle.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Because it's like, I love fish.

[Jeffree Star]

I don't.

[Tana Mongeau]

Can I just say it's funny because the second these cameras go off, I'm getting the real tea and that's like this. Like, don't tell them that. That it's just like. It's nuts.

[Jeffree Star]

Like, what's so tight? That's the real tea.

[Tana Mongeau]

That is. I've always said that about you.

[Jeffree Star]

I can't be fisted.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I've tried. I've.

[Jeffree Star]

You're looking at me like I'm a liar. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

So afraid. It's so funny that he works for this podcast because he is just so sweet. Okay, guys, we love you. We love you. Jeffree Lynn.

[Jeffree Star]

Thank you for having me, ladies. I really appreciate it. Tan. I love you, friend.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love you so much. W.

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