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A
Get the Angel Reese Special at McDonald's. Now, let's break it down. My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bun, of course. And don't forget the fries and a drink. Sound good?
B
I participate in restaurants for a limited time.
A
Hello, and welcome back to the cancelled podcast.
B
We're back in the living room, which is super easy to set up, and it's no biggie.
A
It takes so long to set up here. That's why we've been shooting at the studio. We see all of your guys's comments. To be honest with you, Aaron, close your ears. Years. I'm happy to not be shooting in that studio.
B
It's not Aaron's studio, but it's Oscar.
A
Studio, and I love them, and I love the studio, but I swear I'm Long Island Medium and somebody died there.
B
Well, also, I think canceled is just, like, we were never supposed to be.
A
In a studio, you know, as we're building a studio.
B
No, but that's different still, like, couch, like, lax vibes. Like, we're not.
A
I agree. Even Paige today was saying that something about sitting on the gray couch or even your couch evokes a completely different podcast. Like, it's just because we feel so much more comfortable and we're just not studio girls. Like, the things that come out of our mouth, and then it's like, leaving that studio. I'm like, no.
B
Yeah. Maybe that's why I feel so haunted.
A
And. Yeah, you know what? I'm so excited to podcast today. I feel like we have so much to talk about. I don't even, like, know where to start.
B
Where should. What's your favorite thing?
A
Well, I think I should apologize to Tara's world.
B
Okay.
A
Okay. Because here's the thing. I love her, and I don't know where I got off. Like, just. What the. Just, like.
B
Wait, where's this apology coming from? Like, what. What is like.
A
Because I'm sitting there being like, I'm sorry.
B
I'm sorry.
A
I'm just sitting there being like, you couldn't waterboard that out of me.
B
Well, okay, so you got clocked in the comments.
A
No, I haven't seen the comments. What do they say?
B
Well, I haven't seen the comments either, thankfully. But I did see, like, a clip of it on Tik Tok, and people were like, tana having the nerve to say that, like, somebody else is a pygmy and not acknowledge, like, her past.
A
Okay. So that's what I presumed. They say it's weird. I just feel It. I swear I'm the Long island medium. But, like, just after putting that out, I was really like, where do I get off? I mean, obviously I just thought it was funny that she was like pissing with the ur, like the thing to be in the urinal and whatever. But I think I. I came at it with an air of judgment. And the other day I was going through my closet and I came across these nocta. Are you familiar?
B
No.
A
These nocta puffers there. But I'm sorry, I have to kickle so bad. I came across these nocta puffers and it's like Drake's brand or it like was or whatever Rip and I had this we have to talk about him in that I feel broke shirt too, but I feel broke. I remember I got these puffers and like, I think someone got me one as a gift. And then I bought another one. And it's like they're very much like for the bros and the guys who love Drake. And I like, remember I bought one and I like, was like, hunter, we have to do a whole photo shoot in this where I'm hot in this. And like, I remember, like, Zach Bia loved the shoot. And I was like, oh, my God, now I have to wear my knocked up puffer everywhere. And I was like, I wanted all of his friends to like, want to date me at that time. And I would, like, be walking around Brooke like the Michelin man, like, big ass buffer. And I just saw them and I slowly moved them to my depop pile. And I was like, God, I should apologize to Tara's world.
B
It's like, yeah, because, you know, just because you didn't do it exactly like her, I feel like I try. I tried to make that point in the moment. I think the only reason I really can't come for her because, like, obviously it's embarrassing. I see that video and I'm like, that's stupid. But also, I have done so many things that she would probably even be ashamed of.
A
Yeah. And it's like, I love her. She's such a little sweet girl. And I feel like she gets so much unnecessary hate. And that's the last thing. I just thought the urinal thing was funny. But then it's like, Tana, you almost got a face tattoo. Yeah, a face tattoo. Like, you have become your environment that is male centered. Many a time, the noctop, it just set me like, I really looked like a hype beast Michelin man. I was like, getting rid of these big dunks with Jason Voorhees. On the side, like the mask, like Jason Voorhees. And I was just like, you owe Tara's world. Like flowers, like, I don't know.
B
I really had a phase too, though. You wouldn't believe some of the. Because like, you look at me now and it's like, okay, like she has four outfits. So basic. Like just a uniform that I wear all the time. But I was getting hootie with it for a second there too. Especially in like the beginning of our friendship when I was really just finding my. Finding my footing out here in la. I was a hype beast. I was emo.
A
I was all the things same, 100%.
B
And all to impress whatever guy I was trying to impress at that time.
A
And it's just like, yeah, I. I just owe her the biggest apology. Even now I'm really. I realized the other day, just even as going through my closet, I was getting rid of things and I was like, oh my God. Like, in this era I thought I was Kylie Jenner. And in this era I thought I was Billy Eilish. In this era I thought I was Kamala Harris. You know, like, just like put the blazer down, right?
B
Yeah.
A
And it's like even now, in this era of my life, don't reflect with my current outfit. But I think I'm so pure, Richie, as I have a jersey on and it's like. But anyways, I put on these big ass pants the other day, like a big men's thermal shirt. And I was like, this is how I feel the most comfortable.
B
Yeah.
A
In a fit like this. So then what does that make?
B
I like, like, aish outfit too. Yeah, that just makes you dance.
A
I'm just trying to figure out my personal style. It's not the doctor.
B
Me too. And I really struggle with it. But I think that that's just something that not everybody has. Like, I think there's a lot of shame around, like not having your own sense of like, style. And I don't think there should be because maybe that's just not my thing. Just the same way as some people can't like put a pen to paper and like write something beautiful. I cannot form a good outfit.
A
I agree. It's like Isabella that we've always been besties and she's always like, the things she wore in high school she could wear today. Like, she's always known her style and like, not really followed trends, not against them. Just like, if it was trendy and she liked it, she'd wear it. But like, so. And I'm So the opposite. Like, even, like, the skinny jeans. Like, I see Alex are on these skinny jeans, and I'm like, oh, my God, I don't want to wear skinny jeans. It's like, then don't.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, why do you feel like you have to. You don't even like them.
B
I don't know, but I so get it. But you know what? I think it's like. It's definitely like, an area of your brain that's like. There's, like, an area of responsible. Because it's like, the same way I. I can. I'm like, I'm not artistic, but I have, like, I'm able to paint well and draw well if I can. If I have a reference to copy. Nothing's coming straight from my brain at all.
A
I couldn't agree more.
B
So I'm the same way, informing an outfit, like, I. I can see this and say, oh, I like this. I don't like this. Like, I have judgment that is mine, but I can't formulate it in my head on my own. It doesn't naturally occur.
A
I couldn't agree more. Speaking of judgment, you owe me the biggest apology.
B
What? I do. Fuck the boo. I have to issue an apology to Tana Marie Mojo, because I made fun of her. The Attico boots, and then I wore them all of tour.
A
She might as well have told me, like, hey, kill yourself.
B
I did not. I just said, like, every day she's like. And like, this outfit and the Attico boots and every. You know, I was always kindly like, are you. Are you sure?
A
I love kindly. You wore them yesterday, and then she wore a pair of boots like them, and I just felt so vindicated. We know.
B
I liked them.
A
Yeah. Those are actually different, though.
B
Oh.
A
Because mine are flat, and those have a heel. So maybe those are the ones.
B
Those are the ones.
A
Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those aren't the ones. It's those, but black and leather and.
B
Like, I get it. I guess I think it just reminds me of, like, a big, like, yeti boot.
A
Yeah. No, and I don't know what it is, because I already have big, big stompers, Right? Like, I'm. I'm nearing a women's size 10 these days. And then I'm like, I still need an XL shoe. It's like, Fifi Fo Fum.
B
You know, Maybe it, like, dwarfs your foot. Big shoe, small.
A
That's what I think. I think it's like, oh, no, they're just tiny in here. They're not.
B
That's like, when I wear huge pants to show I don't have a butt.
A
It's. It does kind of. I get it. The contrast. So we have a docket of things, and I don't even know where we should begin.
B
Alphabetical order, baby. Drake wore it.
A
Made me feel broke on a T shirt.
B
I thought. When I first saw it, I thought it was fake. Is it you? Are we 100 sure it's real?
A
100 sure it's real, huh?
B
Hilarious. Whoever in his circle was like, you should wear this shirt. Like, the girlies are gonna love it.
A
No, but why do I feel like it's him? Like, he's just so.
B
I think he's, like, online.
A
I feel like Drake, like, cream contours.
B
I think Drake is too sensitive to be chronically online because he would be like me, like, just crying.
A
Yeah. He's just. Don't. Can't. You're just like. I feel like right now, Drake is somewhere, like, putting a lush bath bomb in the tub.
B
100 points. Buffing his nails.
A
It just. And imagine being Michaela. It's like, no one could tell me it made me feel. But it really just is even just beyond the Michaela, it made me feel broke. I can't stop with it this week.
B
I think it got taken out of context, for sure, but also, like, girl.
A
No, the context. What do you ever.
B
Because she was saying things that, like, were, like, broke. She was like, oh, and we couldn't afford groceries. But it's like. It's just that it made me feel broke. Like, I feel broke is such a funny concept because it's like, what? It's. You're either broke or you're not.
A
Yeah. It just. It, like, it was so funny to me because I'll forever, whenever I hear the sound, relate it to an emotion from inside out. Like, just in the corner. Like, can't get the meal.
B
Like, it's like the emotion broke.
A
Yeah, like. Like that's what I like saying. It's a feeling is so funny to me. And it's just like. I don't know. I beat that. I beat the Anna Paul situation into the ground.
B
Well, now it's Michaela versus Corinna.
A
Corinna got involved, and now people are just, like, speculating Drake being a factor.
B
Sometimes things move too fast for me to even understand what the Is going on.
A
I think the Internet is also so quick. I don't think I actually want to say what I'm gonna say.
B
Don't say it.
A
Yeah. You know what I mean? It's always Good to just not say what you want to say. I was gonna say sometimes everyone can have a truth. Right.
B
But yeah, like what? Yeah, you're right.
A
Like, everyone.
B
People or everyone in their own world believes that they are cracked.
A
Yeah. And just, like, maybe everyone has small truths in what they're saying, but it's clear that Michaela is just like. Right. So it's like, shut up, Tana. I just think Anna needs to do a little more. Like, I just want, like. Like, can she just give us the real tea one time? Like, break the character? Yeah.
B
I want her to one time use that voice to tell us, like, something horrible.
A
Like, even just voice over your day, Go get your nails done and just. Just spill it. You know? Like, it can still be voiceover style, but just say something. I don't know. I want to talk about. Well, I want to react to Ash Trevino talking about us, because I guess she did. But then I also don't want to be a part of this problem that I keep saying. Maybe we'll do it on the Patreon.
B
I think it could. I mean, it's up to you. But I was really excited to show it to you.
A
It's up to you.
B
It's, like, kind of anticlimactic. Do you want to see it? I want to react to a lot of things on the Patreon.
A
Yeah. Maybe we just have a reaction episode because you saw her in the airport, and I have to hear about that.
B
First and foremost. I saw Ash Trevino at the airport, and it was literally, like, you know, one of those things where it's like, you literally can't believe your eyes. Like, I felt like, you know, when Dave Portnoy saw that guy with no arms outside.
A
Why? How is he pulling that?
B
How is he pulling that? That's how I felt seeing Ash Trabina in the airport.
A
So just walk me. I really, like, need, like, story time. Like, walk me through every second.
B
It was a cold winter night. BB And I had just shown up to the airport. We were flying to Chicago for our club appearance. Okay. We're rushing through the airport because, of course, we are not on time for our flight. And as I'm rushing, I see a mob of people coming at me, except one person is smaller than the rest.
A
Okay.
B
And by smaller, I mean shorter.
A
Would you say they were giving stocky?
B
She was giving something.
A
I don't even know what stocky actually really means other than the man who's outside of my house right now with flowers.
B
Anyway, I saw her shuffling across the little Ground, no security guard in sight. That's important to note because you know how she goes on her rampage, about how she can't travel anywhere without a security guard because people approach her too often. But who am I really talking about? Because I got ready to approach her. In fact, I chased her down the airport. But I was like, I really had to come into like, I was, I was sprinting. Honestly, I'll insert a photo. You can see how fast my little legs are going behind Ash Trevino. And then I came to and I was like, first of all, you've been talking about her online. Probably not a good idea to approach her because honestly, I really mean it. She looks like she can get you at the knees. She looked like, you know what I mean? Like, she just looks like, like scary and having nothing to do with her actual physical appearance, but more so just.
A
Her energy, mean mugging, fake Louis bag on and all.
B
Yes. And then also I was just like, what am I going to do with like, what am I going to do? Ask her for a photo? Like, I don't want a photo with her.
A
I want to spit on her 100%. That's wild. It feels like we spoke that into existence because it was like right after we very first podcast about her.
B
It was really, I'm not going to lie, it was exciting and like not to ever like Ash Trevino sucks. But it was very much like, oh my God, I can't believe this. She doesn't live here. She feels like a fictional character.
A
I 100% agree. She's giving like, what is it, Huckleberry Finn? Like she's not, she's not real behind that phone. Like I just can't even, even just the rest of her body. Like when I first saw to the Bob house, it's to see her in the wild, I would be like jarred for sure.
B
I saw a tick tock of her today talking about how she's not friends with her two friends anymore because she could not believe that they didn't take the fall for her when she like robbed a place and stole a bag and she went to her friends and she was like, will you please just like take the blame for me? I'm. I'm in a CPS battle right now. And they were like, no, sorry, we're in a custody.
A
Why are you stealing a purse while you're. See, I was gonna immediately like be like, okay, me in 2016, right? Me in 2015. But then it's like the CPS battle brought me back to earth.
B
Yeah. Oh, I really want to tell you what she says about you.
A
I think I'm gonna crash out and I'm really trying to not.
B
We'll save it, we'll save it.
A
I'm trying not to just give her anymore. Like, even this, it's like I'm fighting because it's obviously like, this is what we do, this is what we talk about, but it's just like Astrovino for prison, Ash Trevino for solitary confinement. Yes. I'm so excited to see the Fray in concert later this year, which is why I want to give the sponsor of today's video, SeatGeek, a huge shout out. With over 28 million downloads, SeatGeek is the number one rated ticketing app. There are more than 70, 000 events listed on SeatGeek, including concerts, sports, festivals, and more. So many artists are going on tour and you can get tickets to Kendrick Lamar and sza, the Weeknd, Beyonce, Morgan Wallen, and more. I love using SeatGeek because I love attending live events like Billy Eilish and other fun concerts. Seatgeek has your back. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10, so you know you're getting a good deal. So look for the green dots. Green means good, red means bad. Plus, every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. And you know I came through for you guys. You can use code cancel 2025 for 10% off your next set of tickets at SeatGeek. That's 10% off any tickets with promo code cancelled 2025. Make sure you click the link in the description to down the app and have the code automatically added to your account so you can use it later. Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring today's episode of the canceled podcast. I'm on a diet. Okay. And it's because I have two very naked things potentially coming up. One for sure. One that I don't know, like truly naked. Do you know what I mean? And it's like, nothing crazy. No, like crazy restriction. I'm just like, really?
B
Like, can I know what they are?
A
Yes. Well, I can't. I can't put one of them in the thing. You already know one of them and then the other one is. And I just.
B
Which one's for sure, for sure? That's so fun.
A
You'll know when the. When the other thing is for sure. But it's. Both of them are very soon. And I'm just like, I want to look my best for this, obviously, and you know me with the Burger King and the Big Macs and the and we were even just talking about this in the past episode, where I'm just like, I want to look my absolute best. And I'm not going to shortcut it with Manjaro Ozempic because I think it's bad. So I'm really, for me, bad for me. I stopped it after that. And now I'm, like, really trying to eat healthy. And the other day, I'm on the way to the airport for Makoa's birthday trip. Speaking of seeing people in the airport. And I decide in the final minutes because we're flying out of jsx, I'm like, okay, I'm going to Uber eats some Starbucks food. And even in my head, I'm like, this shit is 3D printed. Wait till you get there.
B
So good.
A
Have some kale. You know, like, you're. You're being healthy. You don't need to do this. And I order that big old breakfast sandwich against everything I am trying to, you know, follow right now. And I get to the airport and I check in, and the very first person I see in line with me at JSX is Yolanda Hadid. Okay.
B
Oh, she said, put it down, Yolanda Hadid.
A
I canceled my Uber Eats order. Somebody else got that sandwich that day. It was crazy. It's funny, too, because she was like. She was just, like, sitting in the corner of the airport, and I didn't notice her. Obviously, Ari did. You know Ari. Like, he could smell Yolanda like a drug dog. Okay. And he sees her, and then I can tell she's kind of. Because we're like a group of, like, 20 people. Like, it's all of Makoa's friends and my friends. So it's like a sight to be seen, you know? And just the crossover, the Mario Selman X, like, straight Hawaii surfer boys. And I could just tell she was kind of, like, casing everybody. And then, like, Mario walks in, fur coat, so tiny. And, like, she smiles. And I was like, no.
B
Like, she was probably giddy.
A
Yeah. And you know, that just, like, made Mario's day. It was so wild. I didn't eat the breakfast sandwich, but I forget where I was going with that.
B
Dieting is wrong.
A
Well, not. No crash diet. No. Just, like, I'm eating.
B
You shouldn't call it a diet. You're. You're adopting a lifestyle change.
A
You're actually 100, right? That's literally all it is. And it's like, even last night, I was sitting there, and I'm like, as soon as this is over, I can't wait to have Bulldog Carbonara. And it's like, you know, you're changing your lifestyle.
B
You can have Bulldog Carbonara.
A
Have you ever looked up the stats?
B
Yes, I did. Because for a second there, I kept getting stomach ulcers.
A
Yeah, it's. It's nutty. And it's just like. That is the thing. I'm just trying to.
B
But I was so fabulous when I was.
A
Diet is the wrong word. I'm just trying to enact a healthier lifestyle with healthier eating habits. And it's so hard today, I had to break it for a business venture.
B
Honestly, so inspirational. Pickles aren't.
A
Pickles are healthy. I'm doing a pickle with. I mean, yeah, high in sodium, but pickles themselves aren't bad. I'm doing a pickle collab with Kaylin and Kaylin, and they are like, my favorite company on planet Earth. And I'm so, so exciting.
B
I'm so happy for you.
A
And it's been years in the making. I've been like, me and the owner have just been friends for so long and trying to figure out when it can work and, you know, what will work. But one of the things we're doing is at the Grove, having pickle boats in the farmer's market. And so today I had to go try all of the pickle boat options. And obviously, I created these with my own mind. And there I am eating chamoy, Tajin, Gushers, and taki on one, hot chili, sour cream frito on another, hot cheetos queso on another. They're insane. But, like, so I'm bubbling the house, especially because I've been eating kale all week. My body was like, wait, no.
B
Yeah. Like, what? What's going on?
A
Yeah. 100. I am so excited, though.
B
Oh, my God, I'm so excited for you. I can't wait to try them.
A
It's so funny that you and I are both, like, working on things right now that are just so us. Like, you have the cutest clothes for Coachella coming. Can we.
B
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. By the time this comes out, how excited it's.
A
They're so.
B
I'm so excited.
A
They're excited. I can't wait to wear them.
B
I'm so excited for Festival Season 2. Me and Tana literally planned our tour dates around it. Or I did, anyway.
A
No. 100. We were like, we cannot be touring during Coachella. We have to go. But just, like, how funny. Like, cute Coachella clothes, big pickle chili on top.
B
Well, with Gushers if you say it in that tone of voice, that's true. I would love a pickle collab.
A
We're just. We're on brand. What's mine is yours and what's yours is mine. I'm gonna be wearing your collab and you're gonna be eating my pickles.
B
I'm trying to think of what do I even love as much as you love pickles. Cats. I would need a cat ramen collab.
A
Bulldog.
B
True.
A
What do you make, Miles? Make you. What's it called? Bulgogi.
B
Oh, my God. I'm on. Like, I'm not kidding. I'm gonna have, like, an actual stroke. The amount of red meat that I eat is, like, so dangerous. I'm so, like, everyone's calling me Beefy Brook. Like, it's always kind of been a joke because that time I ordered beefy five layer nachos.
A
You do love you some beef. Like, even if I just say the word beef, like, oh, I'm gonna beef with someone, you'll literally to yourself.
B
I love beef. It's my favorite food. Beef in every single. In all of its states. Like, I'm. I'm always having, like, little fiesta taco bowls.
A
I would.
B
I would love to just have ground beef and. And marinara sauce every night for dinner.
A
You are that USDA cow, but just way cuter.
B
But right now, I'm in beef bulgogi.
A
Wait, I'm sorry, we have to stop. Where? I'm going to order something. And back at square one. I've already had enough talkies for a small beef.
B
Bring me beef on tour.
A
That's insane. Bring me nothing. Bring me nothing but your love and your adoration. My house is full.
B
I love beef.
A
Speaking of beef, who's beefing Bethany Frankel and Lashify? Have you been seeing this?
B
No.
A
Well, I actually. I don't know all the details. I just love Bethany Frankel, and I want to talk about her because I just love her.
B
I love her, too.
A
She's so inspirational and rich, and I'm gonna, like, probably cut corners on this. Like, I really don't know every single detail, but I guess some company sent her lashes and she was talking about them. I don't know if she was talking about the competitor or the actual Lash or talking about the Lash and then talking about how it's similar to a competitor. I don't know what it is, but the CEO of Lashify, who is very much this, like, Donatella Versace woman, threatens the out of Bethany Frankel via dm.
B
Bethany Frankel.
A
And Bethany Frankel is cooking this woman online. And then the woman's on live getting drunk, like, trying to apologize. And it's like, I feel like that has got to be Business Basics 101. Like, don't stand in the kitchen if you can't take the fire.
B
Like, the last person you come for, I think, is, like, somebody like Bethenny Frankel who is just so rambunctious and, like, she just is not afraid to say what she thinks.
A
Also just threatening legal. She threatened legal action against Bethenny Frankel. If my options were, like, threaten legal action against Bethenny Frankel or jump off this balcony like, I'm jumping fly. And she is the legal battle.
B
Like, yeah, she's too smart. She. She knows, like, every in and out, especially because she's just such a smart, like, businesswoman. I. I guarantee at least a thousand people have tried to threaten her with legal action in the. In the past.
A
And it's like, she created the Bethany Clause, like, on the. On reality television. Like, just like before Bethenny Frankel. Most reality television networks, like Bravo and Ian whatever, whenever they would have people on their shows, they would say, you're signing with us. And, like, if you ever come out with a product or a brand, you have to give us x X percent of your product, your brand. She said, no. Like, I'll walk. And that created the Bethany Claus. Like that.
B
Like, I love that she's so smart with all her Skinny girl everything.
A
Yeah. And then. Exactly. Skinny girl ended up being huge. And she's like, thank God I didn't do that. Like, imagine just being the CEO of Lashify and waking up and opening your computer. Like, that is so stupid.
B
Oh, that's your bad.
A
People are telling me I'm gonna get sued by Ash Trevino if I keep yapping. But I feel like Bethany in that situation.
B
What capital.
A
She's Lashify and I'm Bethany. Honestly, I'm not scared.
B
She's so funny. Wait. Speaking of reality television, I need to talk to you about something. I. I thought for a second that you had turned down being on Traders, but you.
A
You clarified that it was how civilian, how civil, and I honestly regret that.
B
More than anything on this planet. Okay. Actually, second, you are the person I want to see on Traders. Second most out of any person in this entire planet. And first, it's me. I want us to go on honestly together. I don't think they would allow it because it's kind of a conflict of interest. But it's so fascinating. I know, you just started it.
A
I just started it and I fell asleep, so I really don't know. And I've been meaning to watch it. I just, like, I didn't know it was kind of challenging and, like, Survivory. Like, I thought Makoa wouldn't like it, so I was putting it off, so. Do tell.
B
No, it's just so. Well, obviously I'm, you know, I love the challenge. I love Survivor. I love Big Brother. So I just, like, honestly, I was running out of shows to watch because I've flown through all those seasons and I saw that Traders was out and I saw that Gabby was on it. Gabby. Wendy, who's like, good friend of mine. And I just, like, am obsessed with her and she's so funny. I saw she was on the Bachelor and then she was the Bachelorette.
A
Oh.
B
And she's just, like, so. And hilarious.
A
What is the objective? Like, I just know it's like Tom Sandoval fighting for his life, which is.
B
Crazy, essentially like a murder mystery, except. So there's. You start out with, like, 23 people. I'm not sure if it's 23 or 24.
A
It's giving who done it.
B
Yeah. You set. You all sit at a round table and they go around and they tap you on the shoulder. And if you. They tap you on a shoulder, you're a traitor. And everybody else is a faithful. And if you're a faithful, like, I mean, you're a faithful.
A
Oh, I heard that last night. I was like, tom Sandoval has never been faithful.
B
But. Yeah, right. But everybody is supposed to pretend they're a faithful. And, like, you're trying. You're trying to convince everybody that you're faithful and most people are. But then if you're a traitor, like, you have to, like, try to get other people to point fingers at each other. And it's kind of lying and deception and it's so exciting and fascinating and fabulous. But everybody who comes in. Not everybody, but most people are from, like, other shows. They have people from the challenge. They have people from Bravo, Survivor.
A
Yeah.
B
House Housewives.
A
Like, and it's. Wow, good. I actually would love that. I did see them, like, doing a kayak for a second. Then I was like, oh, this might not.
B
There are some physical challenges, but most people are not, like, physically able or, like, super.
A
I'm a good yeller too. Like, I could just, like, I'll be the yeller.
B
You could be a yeller. And I don't know. Gabby's, like, really blowing up, though, from it And I'm loving because people just like, she's so funny.
A
We should have her on.
B
I want to have her on more than anything else. She's just like, she's naturally everything that comes to her mind. You're like, how did you think I do?
A
First Trisha, now you. Everyone's like, you need to watch Traders tonight. I will lock in. I really will. Cuz I want to see it. And I just. I love Chrishell. I always have. I've been her biggest fan, you know, I myself in front of her and that was the worst moment of my life.
B
She doesn't remember that. Did I tell you?
A
Oh, my God, he's literally real. He has.
B
Did I tell you I ran into her? So I ran into her at the Gladiator or. Yeah, the Gladiator premiere. And she called me over. We're talking to each other and I was like, you know, it's so funny. I just got off tour and we had a whole bit about you in our show. And she goes, what? Like, what do you mean? She goes. I go, yeah, Like, Tana has, like a whole story time about how, like, she was herself and like, you were in the bathroom and like, she was so embarrassed. She was so embarrassed because eight layers.
A
Of skims on waist trainer out, ass shape, wear out, nipples, looked at me.
B
Like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
A
I mean, yeah, it didn't seem like it was like a pivotal moment for her. It was just one of those ones for me where it was like, oh, my God, I. I have to crawl in a hole.
B
It's one of those, like, having like, a celebrity interaction where, like, you're like, oh, my God, they're gonna think about this forever.
A
Yeah. They're not. Yeah. At all. No, but, like, my tits were out. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it really.
B
You. It.
A
You felt it exposed and just all of the things, it was just. It was so, so bad. And oh, my God, that's another reason why I'm eating healthier. Just because the pooping. I don't. I was gonna tell you about some pooping, but no pooping. No pooping here. That's our 2025 goal. Speaking of poo. Poo. No, no. Bad. Do you see Blake Lively on snl? Sorry, I've had a long day and I'm really tired. Like, I'm in a weird mood.
B
That transition was gold. I did see Blake Lively on snl, and really it was Ryan Reynolds on SNL and Blake Lively just going, I.
A
Feel like society is Almost just transitioning into being smarter than traditional pr. Do you know what I mean? Like, that would have, like, gotten everyone 10 years ago, and, like, now it's just like, stop. Like, why are you so hard?
B
Because there's just two. There's. We have access to everything, so it's too easy to form, like, a true opinion. I don't know, but I saw a lot of people saying, like, oh, my God, there's, like. You can tell Blake had no idea that was gonna happen. And I'm like, you guys, there's. SNL is so, so, so planned.
A
And, like, you know, they were begging the PR teams to let that happen.
B
Yeah. They were probably like, this is gonna. This is gonna be a hit.
A
It's so wild how, like, once people make it to a certain caliber of traditional media in Hollywood that, like, transcend, like. Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, they can just come on SNL. Like, it.
B
You know, like, SNL's just like, okay, Sly. Yeah, that is interesting. I guess Justin Baldoni is never going to be a guest on snl.
A
Yeah. Which is just wild. Like, just, like, so wild. I'm gonna watch. See how that pans out.
B
Did you. I'm sorry, did you watch the 50th anniversary? The SNL?
A
I watched a lot of clips of it.
B
Me, too. I haven't seen the full thing, but I'm so excited, too.
A
I know. I really, really want to. It was just amazing. You know what else? I loved last night so much. Or maybe not last night could have been last week. I don't.
B
Timothy Chalamet speech.
A
Yes, it.
B
God, I'm so good.
A
You honestly ate down with that Long Island Mediums. We're Long island smalls.
B
Extra smalls.
A
So stupid.
B
I'm gonna get cooked.
A
Pick me. Pick me. I think people just never do that. And I'm. I'm really just day by day, becoming the biggest Timothee Chalamet Stan. Absolutely ever. And it's like, I'm not fully there yet. I need to see everything he's done. Like, I'm still. I'm. But I'm in that amazing stage where you're, like, becoming a super fan of someone and a complete unknown. Did that for me. Like, it was just. Have you seen it yet?
B
I haven't seen it yet, too.
A
It's. It was so good.
B
And likes one thing, though, to make you just, like.
A
It's exactly that. And, like, and then finding out he just dedicated five years of his life to the role. I think he's so, like, Elusive, like, just like his relationship with Kylie, how you don't know everything, whereas with anyone else you would like, I just love him. And then that speech. I think it's so cool. I mean, everyone has said this. I don't have the same take as, like, everyone on Tick Tock, but it has become, like, corny to say, like, I worked so hard for this and I want to be great. And I.
B
It is. Everyone wants to seem like the most humble person. And I. I can't believe this is happening to me. I don't deserve it. I love to see someone get up there and be like, it's about time. Jeez.
A
It was just so cool. Even just like, his interest in Viola Davis, like, to say that is so, like, it just like. I don't know, it just, like, all made me so happy and, like, I want him to win the Oscar so bad for it. Like, to me it was an Oscar winning performance.
B
It's so crazy how many. I've seen so many. Or like, the stats on how many awards he's been nominated for versus how many he's won. And that, like, blows me away. He. You would think he'd have, like, so many accolades.
A
And that's his whole bit, like, on snl, right, that he just, like, gets nominated and nominated. And I just feel like it's going to be his year and, like, I want it so bad. He just, like, there's something about him. I love people like that. Like, even obviously, you know, my Pete era, I don't want to go to.
B
He took his tattoos off.
A
I know. I was gonna say, like, loving the person that just feels like they're your friend, like the guy next door, like, getting the success. But, yeah, I mean, we all knew he was gonna do it. Or maybe just me because I'm so creepy.
B
Yeah, same.
A
Yeah, I miss them. I. I'm always gonna prefer the.
B
I'll let him do whatever makes him happy.
A
The. What's it called? Stick and poke. The people's names, all of it. I love when people. It's crazy.
B
Yeah, I do love him both ways.
A
It's crazy that technology is just like, that good that they're actually, like, gone like that.
B
I just, like, can't believe it doesn't scar. I guess it just doesn't really make sense to me. But like, like, the big black keyhole.
A
Though, like, I can see why he was like, maybe I don't want this anymore.
B
Well, you have to wonder what he covered that, like, what.
A
What that was covering how painful. Imagine. I, like, keep Going in to get my little young AF on my ass gone. And it's, like, so hot. It's so wild how removing something hurts so much more than, like, removing tattoos hurts so much more than getting it. I removed some filler yesterday, and I was like, oh, my God.
B
The most painful thing you could possibly do.
A
Because they're injecting, like an acid, essentially, that burns.
B
Melts it.
A
That melts away at the filler. And it was the craziest. It's crazy. I was just sitting there and it was like I was explaining to Makoa, like, this is nine years of cheek filler that has now migrated probably to my knees, and I'm, you know, reworking it and getting it all gone. And it was so painful. But I'm excited. I'm. That was my first ever. I've never removed anything really. Like, I've never dissolved filler. I've never.
B
That actually surprised me because sometimes I see, like, videos of us and, like, I'm like, wow.
A
No, my lips were like.
B
But I don't ever look at you and think you're, like, overfilled at all.
A
I'm in Los Angeles and my lips were in San Francisco.
B
Yeah.
A
And then I never dissolved them. So it's like, is that in my earlobe now? You know, like, where did it go?
B
You don't have, like, migration either. My lips, when I dissolved them, I literally. It felt like somebody took my lips, stuck them on a frying pan, held me there for a minute, and then took me away.
A
That's 100. And she put the. She put the cannula here. And at least she did cannula.
B
You know, they did no cannula for me. They just did individual injections for every single one. I was like, do you want me to die?
A
I wonder if that's because mine was face, not lip. I wonder if it's just different. I don't know. It was crazy, though. And I thought it was going to be cheap for some reason. And then twelve hundred dollars later, I regret my nine years of filler.
C
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B
Have you ever gone in for something? I saw someone just make a tick tock about this but like as a collab and they like, don't specify the details and you like think you're getting something and then you end up still having to pay a lot of money.
A
Definitely. I don't know like when and where, but like for sure.
B
Oh, I just saw it happen to somebody and I'm like, that's happened to me a few times. And then you're just like, I'm just too embarrassed to say anything. So I'll just like.
A
That's like. Did you see like all the influencers up in arms when like they found out because it changed the laws changed like how they had to pay taxes on gifted clothes. Yeah. And like I, I just can't even imagine how many influencers were probably like getting gifted. All this revolve shit. And then they had to pay like $10,000 in taxes on it at the end of the year. And it' happen to me. You know what else? They just. Law wise, money wise, influencer wise. This just like came to my mind. I am so happy but also so alarmed. They just. And I'm probably going to get this wrong. Do your research. It's a canceled podcast. Sorry in advance. Change the law in California to where families whose children are the primary entertainer in their content. So like children's content, family content. They now have to put that money into a trust for the child. And I'm. You're seeing all of these family vloggers move out of California. You want to put your kids to dance monkey work so bad that you're gonna move out of California.
B
Say her name.
A
What's her name?
B
Brittany Xavier.
A
She did that?
B
Yeah. And like she said. She says she didn't. But then she's like, yeah, and my, my oldest daughter is staying behind because she doesn't want to move for her senior year. But like we just have to get out of here. And then she says because. Because she had toxic mold in her house. Okay. She was like, I have to move. I have toxic mold.
A
I'm not just down the street when your kid's still in school.
B
But listen, this is the funniest part. She goes, I have toxic mold. I have to move. It has nothing to do with the child laws. And then someone goes, what are you going to do with your house? You just got it. And she goes, I'm selling it to somebody who lost their house in the fires. I go, with toxic mold. Have they not been through enough?
A
Oh, my God. It's. I think my new bit really is just like actively really vocalizing how much I hate these awful parents online. Like, obviously, Tick Tock has given us a whole new realm of seeing so much more. And so many people are getting caught now. Like the Ruby Franks of the world. And it's great.
B
There's a documentary coming out about it.
A
And I. I can't wait to see it. I mean, it's just like. It's wild moving out of California for that. It's. I just can't imagine. Imagine how you would feel if your child just wanted to watch Paw Patrol and hang out with their friends all day. And you're like, hold on, it's time for the boo basket trend. And like, they're probably crying now and again because children are emotional. You're forcing them to do it. Anyways. We saw the moms, you know, the Ruby Franks and the ones and so many other moms that are like, okay, cry for the thumbnail. Like, you're fucking putting your kid to Shirley Temple work. You're gonna move out of California. Why would you want them to have that money? And it's always been a thing, you know what I mean? The Jeanette McCarty's mom of the world. I've seen it with a lot of, like, people I know who were like Disney stars and. But it's like, never. Not mind blowing.
B
It's crazy. It's horrible. But I kind of love it because I, like, I'm. I'm just weird about people posting their kids anyway. Ever since that little girl, I forgot her name, but she was the really cute one.
A
And I think it's funny. I was talking about this with Ari like, yesterday, but it's like, I see Trisha and I'm like, that's so amazing. Like, post your kids.
B
But that's not the center of her content.
A
Exactly.
B
You know what I mean? Like, her kids are an accessory to her content.
A
100. That's the only way it's okay to me. I just. I understand Documenting your life. But it's like, I just get concerned when the kids are in the content every single day, because kids don't want to do that every single day. Yes, there are some, like the little girl who does her interviews and stuff, but, you know, it's like, I don't know, I just don't love it. I don't love it. And I just. As I get older and older too, I'm just like, how. Like, that's a kid, you know, I know it's.
B
It's hard.
A
I came up, but it gave me. This is actually so sad. I don't know if I need to, like, do all this on cancel because I need to make a YouTube video about it anyways.
B
What is it?
A
Well, so the other day, for some reason, I decided one night, Mokoa had fallen asleep. He's been going to bed so early. It's the bane of my existence. Because then I just sit there and I like, don't know what to do with my hands for hours. And I was going through my camera roll and I like, very much. And I've always told you this, like, I just. I pretend every version of me except for this current one does not exist. Like, you even know, reacting to my music was so hard for me. Like, I've never watched the toothbrush. I've never seen my MTV show. And I take that as far as, like, I don't even go through my camera roll. Like, I never have. And now obviously, I've been trying to kind of exposure therapy myself into my own life. Like, just like for the book, just to remember things and whatever. And I was going through my camera roll in. I was. I was like 17. So it was me dating Summer Hollingsworth. And I was watching all these vlog clips. And even just. Even just seeing that was so wild to me. Like, how much I wanted him to, like, love me and be nice. And obviously, you know, I struggled with that for, like, many years. After dating men who literally hated me, I was going through that. And then just. Even just me and Jordan, like, seeing me at like 16. And Jordan Maron is my best friend. He looks so young. It was all just like, like, so interesting to me. And then I come across these vlog clips of me going home to my grandma's house in Texas. And I was like, 17, and I don't remember this at all. And, you know, I've talked about it on H3 how I say I have no baby photos. And it's like the worst part about me going no contact because it's like just so sad. I'm like, I want baby photos. And I found these like 30 minute vlog clips of me going through all these photos of me as a baby.
B
Wait, yeah.
A
And like how exciting is that? It was like awesome. But it was like, oh, it was just so sad because I was like finding all these photos of my mom on like her wedding day and like I'd never seen a photo of my dad looking like a normal human and like young and like he just looked like such a regular guy like on the street. Like a normal, like I don't want to say handsome because it's weird but.
B
Like you can say handsome.
A
And it was like them in Cabo when they were like probably like 30 and they were just like smiling and he looked so normal and I was like, oh my God, how sad. Like she was just a girl. And it just like put me down this whole like super sad rabbit hole. But I found some baby photos.
B
Well, that's good. I've had the same like a similar issue where I haven't seen really much of anything either. But it is like when you do see something, it's so like I get emotional about it anyway, like we, the last episode when I talked about my younger self thing, which by the way I did do my homework, like what the. It just like for some reason makes me really sad to even look back on stuff like that because I, I'm like so sen about like having been younger and stuff and like same.
A
So much same. And even just in the clips my mom was like in the background talking to me and like being so nice and like we were like laughing and then seeing these photos of her on her wedding day and just thinking like, damn, she just wanted to get it right too. And then I like. And that's a hard thing with no contact too. I'm sure. You know, it's like you remember the like. Or like for me at least I don't really remember them but like I see a video of it like these good memories and it's like, oh, that sucks. That like there were good moments.
B
Yeah, you know, it's just like a talk. Like any toxic relationship, of course you're going to remember like so much of the, the, the good and it's, it's so sad. But it's also like, I don't know, I see a lot of people talk about how like it's your first parents first time living too. Like you have to think about that. But then you know, the rebuttal to that Is like, okay, well, they also had, you know, however many years on us, like, in all this time to learn what to do and what not to do, and they chose not to do it. So.
A
And I think I've sat so heavily with that that I almost block out the good. Like, I just, like, I don't really remember the good moments. Like, the badge overshadows it so much. So then, like, seeing, you know what I mean, just photos of me, like, a little. There was like this photo of us on Christmas morning, and she had on, like, sunglasses and a robe. And I was like, that's still something I would do now. Like, if I had a kid, it'd be early and I would do that. And it's just like, I can't even. I'll cry. But, like, it just made me so sad. And then I saw this tick tock too. Triple whammy after where I open up. And it was like, if you could go with a time machine and tell your mom one thing, what would you do? And I realized I would tell her not to have me. And it made me not because of anything to do with me. Like, for her, like, those two things can still exist. Like, I appreciate my life, but, like, all she wanted was a kid and she couldn't get it right. And like, the mental health. And like, I feel like that's why she, like, stayed with my dad. And, you know, it just made me so sad. I was like, how can those two things be true? You know, that like, I needed a mom. And like, you know what I mean? Like, obviously I want to be here and I love my life, but if I could tell her one thing, it would be like, girl, run. You know?
B
Yeah, I understand. I don't know.
A
I'm happy you're here, but I'm happy I'm here. I don't. I don't mean that. It's like a separate thing.
B
No, I know what you're saying. Like, just like, for her sake. And I feel like it, like maybe her life would have turned out, like, completely differently. She would have probably, you know, not been in that relationship or whatever, but.
A
Yeah, or like, stayed as hard. I don't even know. It's just wild to think, Like, I.
B
Always think about it. Like, I get. I feel like you already know how much, like, guilt I have around that. But I think about, like, because I have so many mental problems. When I think about my mom's mental problems, I'm like, I can't imagine having also had, like, being in that situation or like, how I feel like the prison in my brain. But then also having three kids and no money, you know, so I'm like, God, like, really? Like, what was she to do? Like, of course she was gonna do a bad job. But, like.
A
Yeah, and it's. It's so true. And I've accepted that, too. I think it's crazy, too. My parents were born in 1953 and 1959.
B
So crazy.
A
So their generation was also so anti mental health, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
And then especially my dad, like, going to the war and then coming back and like, all of that, like, just like.
B
That's so interesting because my grandpa and your dad were in the same war.
A
That's so wild. Not.
B
I wonder.
A
Yeah.
B
I wonder if they knew each other. Probably not, I wonder.
A
But it's just like. And then I'm imagining being with a man who's so anti mental health, and you're, like, isolated and just all the things I don't know. It's just like, so wild. She texted me the other day, too, and I was just like, oh. It's like, I just battle so hard with, like, how differently would I feel if she were to die? You know, how different, like, what I wish I said or did anything else. And I always just come to the conclusion of, like, no, you know, and that there's nothing more or less I could do. And, yeah, it would just make me even sadder, but it's like, for right now, too.
B
And, like, things change day to day. If you never want to talk to her again, that could be true. But that also, like, you could in a year be like, you know what? I am ready to.
A
And it's not even, like, holding anger to the point that I don't want to talk to her. It's just like choosing peace. I feel you never knew me and you don't know me, and it's. You know what I mean? And how much of it would be for you? And I don't even know. Just like.
B
No, I know It's. It's frustrating, too, to feel like, at least in my instance, like, my family feels very entitled to, like, know things about me and have contact with me and stuff. And I get frustrated because I'm like, for what? Like, what did you do to deserve any of that? You know what I mean?
A
Yeah. And it's just like wishing, obviously. I feel like I'm just always talking about the pros of no contact. And it's like, I'm so grateful for it. It changed my life. But it is undeniable that there's forever a hole in a void in my heart. And like, it's sad, you know, and it's like, even just like I got this crazy opportunity, the one I'm dieting for. And even just like on our last night of tour, like, I. I went back to my hotel room and I cried because it was like, I wish I had, you know, a mom and a dad who were awesome.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Like, even just when crazy things happen, it's just like so wild. And I don't feel like I vocalize the roller coaster of what? No contact is enough. I'm always just like, it's the best thing that ever happened. And it is. But it's also like, damn.
B
No, it's hard. You inspired me with it, obviously, because I was like, I was so opposed to it for so long because I have so much guilt around it. And I did it and I was successful in it for a long time. But I have recently relapsed.
A
No. And it's like because of the hope. You. You relapse because you have hope, you know? And I think my hope just got shut down so many times that I had to give up. But then even now, it's like all you'll have that, like, random glimpse of the hope and even watching myself go through the baby photos and like vlog it, like 17 year old me, that was the difference with, like, there were so many differences in our personalities. Right. And the things that we were saying. But one of the things that I think was just so prevalent was you could hear the hope I had in my voice, like, in the hope I had that it would, like, all work out in a way that I thought it would. It did all work out, but I didn't ever think they would just be out of my life, you know? And it's like you hadn't quite, like.
B
Given up on it yet.
A
Yeah. And it's just like I had to, you know?
B
But yeah, I will say, like, when you do invite like, anyone back in, like, that you're just like, setting yourself up. And at least, I mean, for me, you would set yourself up for disappointment after disappointment after disappointment. Because it's like, imagine you go through all that, you make this, like, really big and bold decision to like, finally like, reach out in olive branch and then it's like the same thing. And that's what I deal with all the time. I'm like, oh, my God, like, what did I do?
A
I just. Yeah, I think it would be like opening a huge can of worms of like, like Sadness, you know, because even if it's not like, even if it's good, I think it would still be sad to be like, you're a stranger and like, you know what I mean? Just like. And I always was like her parent, almost like I had to, you know, insert myself in that role at a very young age. I was not only my own parent, but that's how it felt with her. So it's like I. I'm assuming it would still feel the same way if she's still in a similar situation and.
B
She'S like, it's interesting to feel like you. You don't know your parent hardly at all. But like, since they like, you know, brought you into the world and like, gave birth to you, they feel so, like, like, at least my parents feel like they are so my parents and they know everything about me and stuff. And I like, I'm like, literally who.
A
That's. That was like, where do you get off? Exactly. That's. That was why I went no contact. Because I was just like, you don't know me and you never have and you never will. You know what I mean? And it's like. But then it's just so sad too, because it's like my mom was just such a weird case, I guess, because it was like she wanted a kid super bad. They tried for kids. She had six miscarriages. A bunch of went down, I'll talk about in my book. But I was their seventh try and it was like, that's all she wanted was like a baby girl and then just couldn't. So it's even. It's so sad to me because it's like, I know that's still what you want, but you couldn't so hard that you could you like heavily me up, you know, I don't know. It's just sad. So obviously that's where the entitlement comes from because it's like you did. You wanted me so bad, but then it's like, second I popped out. Yeah.
B
What if, like, Murphy just wanted to go outside one day and never talk to me again? I'd. Yeah, I'd show up at her poker tournament.
A
Exactly. And it's like, oh, and it's just so sad.
B
But I get you. And I don't think you always tell me, but I don't think you should feel guilty at all about that.
A
Don't. I just feel. Feel sad for her, if that makes sense.
B
Yeah. And you could. Two things can be true at the same time. You told me that literally exactly that like, you can feel bad for her and have empathy and, like, sympathy for her situation and what she went through, because obviously she wanted a baby so bad. She wanted that life, and she couldn't get out of the relationship that she was in. And stuff like that can be true, but you also don't have to subject yourself.
A
Yeah. And I think accountability was the biggest thing with me and with them. I don't think they ever took it. And obviously that's narcissism. You know what I mean? And duh. But, you know, I think everything would be different if they were able. And I'm. I'm aware that they're sick and they can't possess it. So it's not like I'm yearning for that or angry that they've accepted it's not coming. Yes. But that's. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, there's no accountability. And even now, it's like, yeah, I guess there always will be a part of me that's like, I appreciate your apology and I do forgive you, but. Or whatever. But, like, you know, yeah, you don't.
B
Want to have bad blood.
A
It's not like you just can't come back and say, sorry, I. You up and with you and was awful to you. Like, you know, just like, royally, like.
B
Yeah, you gotta live with it forever.
A
Because I do. And it's not like that I'm punishing. It's just like, unfortunately, there was never really a space for them in my life. Unfortunately. I don't know. And I guess it's like. Like, my biggest takeaway was, like, the other night, I kind of was, like, talking myself off a ledge because I really did just, like, sob myself to sleep, and McCall was sleeping, and I was just like. My biggest takeaway, I guess now is that it's great that this generation is so much more vocal about how people shouldn't have kids and people. Because even just her generation was very much like, the woman stays home and has the kids and has to. And whatever. Like, I'm happy that people can think twice, you know? And even that this is evoked, all of that in me to, like, think about who I'm going to be as a parent. Not just that I need a kid.
B
Yeah. And who you have a kid with, too, is so important. Chelsea Handler had a funny bit about it where she was literally, like. Like, I'm not gonna have a kid because I would be a bad parent.
A
Yeah. And she. She's hilarious about it. If I watch too much Chelsea Handler talking about not wanting A kid. I'll like, swing that way because it. Like, she eats. No, no notes. Like, she eats no notes.
B
I look at lives like her because I've always. I've always wanted kids. I've never pictured my life without kids. I want kids so badly. But all the people who I look up to the most in life do not have kids. So that's kind of like a weird. Or like the Whitney's of the world.
A
Like, Whitney just read my mind.
B
Yeah. See, she's inspirational to me, but it's like she got all that out of the way and like, I don't know if I want to be like, I don't know if I want to wait that long. But it's like, am I like, throwing a wrench in all my plans if I were to have a kid soon?
A
I'm realizing that I'm gonna be a little bit of an older parent now. I love.
B
I loved having, like, you had older parents. I had my grandparents, but I loved that they were older and I didn't. I mean, I guess I didn't carry the way. I just loved them so much. So it didn't matter that they were older.
A
But then even just like with Amari's family taking me in, Deborah and Araj are so much younger. She had Amari when she was young.
B
Like a teenager, right? Or.
A
Yeah, or like 20 or something. I don't. I mean, she's. She's young now, and it's so cool to me that, like, you know what I mean? But we're already past that, that she, like, gets it. Yeah, I guess that's true. That is really true. It's just like, oh, my God, I want to be the parent who gets it. Because my. My parents just obviously did not get it at all. And like.
B
Yeah, but you could still be a fun, cool parent.
A
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I guess that's just about caring. Don't really age so funny. Because we'll really have a conversation like that. And then it's like, okay, back to Alabama Barker and Bad Baby. But honestly, they hug from their mom, you know, so it all ties in. I took MOA on a birthday trip. Yay. And it was cute. It was really cute. Honestly, it was so funny. Just like, we've never done a trip. Like, imagine our Turks and Caicos trip. But then like, eight normal straight men are also there. And it was just like the crossovers, like, I wish. Yeah, honestly. But like, the crossovers were just so crazy. Like seeing Mario Selman X, like, dinner, you know? Like, it just like, was so funny. I. When he told me he wanted. Because I. Essentially, it came about because, like, I bring Makoa everywhere with me. And like, sometimes there are those moments where, like, we're all blasting Pink Pony Club and people are spilling and someone has a feather boa on and nine tick tocks are being made and I just pan to Mokoa, you know, chilling on the couch and I'm like, like, like, sorry. You know what I mean? And I was like. And he's so the type where he wants nothing for his birthday. Even, like, convincing him to let me do this was like a whole thing. Like, he doesn't ever want me to spend a dollar, like, do anything. But I really, like, out of my heart wanted to.
B
Of course.
A
Yeah, we took. I was like, where do you want to go? And he's like, I want to go to the snow. And just like, a part of me died because I really, like, are you sure? No. And I was pitching everywhere else to us, like, what about Cabo? And like, he just. He was like, well, I mean, yeah, I just really. We never go to the snow. Let's go to the snow, babe. Let's make snow angels. Like, oh, my God. And I'm like, obviously this is what you want for your birthday, so we're going to do it. But, like, a part of me truly died. I hate the snow. Why do people like the snow?
B
I don't know. It's cold, it's wet, and everybody gets hurt.
A
And like 17 layers. It's beautiful.
B
From the window.
A
How do I have swamp ass from my eight layers of thermals? But then my fingers are blue.
B
You hit the nail on the head with that one. The worst part about being in the cold is why I'm in. Like, the second you walk in somewhere and you go from being frigid to all of a sudden just a wave of heat because you had literally 17 coats on. Gloves, hat, beanie, glasses.
A
And it's like, oh, I need my snood. What the.
B
Who's snood?
A
Like, you know what? Just like, the, the parkas, the mittens, the. The layers. I just. I can't do it. And then I. Obviously, every single person on this trip is like, tana, you gotta come shred one day. 1 know better. The girls and the gays. Like, you're going to love it. Like, just calm. You'll. You'll love the lift in the lodge. And then you can do a bunny hill. And it's like, I'm. If I get hurt doing that it's just like the. The risk and the reward with that is not there for me. Like I keep trying surfing cuz it's like I would enjoy that. I like the water. I like being in a bikini. The. The reward of catching a wave you like I'm not doing that. I'm not wearing 90 layers. And then sitting in wall sit position. Yeah.
B
And then snapping your collar bone.
A
Yeah. And like all my. I would be like you'd actually have to 5,000 and it just like. Oh my God. It was so brutal. But was a great trip. I had no idea how expensive Tahoe was too Mokoa too was like yeah.
B
The snow in general like everywhere is. Is. You don't understand. It's like skiing and snowboarding is a major like rich people sport.
A
The thing. The trip itself. We could have been in Cabo for two weeks and even when I was like, no, we have to do Tahoe. Like the Kardashians do Tahoe. Like Tahoe. So everyone goes there. McColl was like, we can do Big Bear, we can do Mammoth. Those are the. They're cheaper. It's a. And I'm like, no babe, only the best. Best for you. Yeah. It was just a grillion dollars and not to mention the casinos nearby. Like it just whatever. I. I'm happy he was happy.
B
Like I'm happy you had fun. And it's just like. I don't know. That was probably special for all his friends too. It's like an exciting. I remember my first like when I first got here and I was like around like you and your company. I was literally like who are these people? You know what I mean? Like it's fun.
A
It was just really fun and I think think it's funny too because my friends are just so different than them. Like watching all of them watch Mario and Ari and everyone. And then they all were too like snowboarding together and like seeing them catch little moments and like it's. It's crazy because it almost gives me a glimpse into like our wedding. Like that's our wedding party, you know.
B
Like yeah, that's important.
A
Minus obviously you and other people that would be a part of it. But like it just like the crossover was so cool and I. I felt like a little cabin mom. Like I. I would. I was just taking content and like of all day and then everyone would come home and I'd be like welcome. We have snacks and it was cute. I'm back in my of era.
B
You are?
A
Yeah. I like had this coming to Jesus where I Realized like, these are the final few years where I would do that. And I like, really?
B
Benny says that she's like, get it out of your system.
A
Yeah. It's like I just like thought I was gonna stop. And like, even just like on our tour, I was like, we're comedians. I don't do it. And then I was like, you used to make a million dollars a month. Like, whip it, bend over. Yeah. Like, it's just like, I don't know. And I've been doing it lately and I'm catching so many broke allegations. Everyone's like, why is she like ramping up on this? And like, it's so funny too, because even when I do post the like of like the other day, I like, I was gonna post this lingerie photo and I wrote out the caption on my Instagram and I was gonna be like, my Instagram is a trailer. The link in my bio is the full movie. And like, I would have.
B
You would have gotten a call immediately.
A
No. Do you know that I literally only saw you in my head and I just pressed discard.
B
I even almost said something when you did one of those comment this letter by letter for a dm.
A
I know you know that one's funny because I used to do that with every single photo.
B
Hit me every time with that. And I always think, like, maybe I'll just do it.
A
It's funny because the.
B
I'll say you're so crazy for this.
A
It's. It's so ridiculous. The Paul brothers taught me that one back in the day.
B
And it, I get it for like engagement and stuff. But like, like, do you really. It's kind of like PC for PC or like.
A
No, it's, it's ridiculous. And like, obviously like most people see it and they're like, she's just doing that to heighten her engagement. But like, I gotta keep my money up. Okay. Like, it's.
B
I know, but if, if somebody looks at the comments and every comment is.
A
C O M, it's crazy because brands are so stupid.
B
Yeah.
A
I probably shouldn't be saying that. Like, please keep.
B
No, it is true though because like, sometimes you'll see, like, you'll hear what someone's getting paid and I'm like, I want to be like, to the brand. Like, did you tell her to unhide her likes?
A
No. It is wild. Like brands will be paying these mega influencers the biggest six figure bag and.
B
In reality be in your bag. Like, it's so good for you, 100%.
A
But like the brand would convert 10 times more sales with six micro influencers.
B
Yeah.
A
With Bop House members and Ash Trevino adjacents. Like, you know, like it's. It is just like so interesting. Whatever.
B
Well, congratulations. I'm happy you're back and probably so rich.
A
It's just. I just feel like, like, you know, like when the nipple ring comes out, it all dies. Right. And I've only got like two more years of the nipple ring.
B
So it's like I think I might pick one up.
A
Really? Yeah.
B
Now that I have these knockers on me.
A
Honestly, we could have a moment. We could have a moment. But it's like, I don't know. I just. I can't have kids with a nipple ring, you know? I don't know.
B
You could.
A
I could. But then it's like, I mean, I have so much to say about Bhad Bhabie, Alabama Barker, all of it. But it's like I feel like we have to react to Ash Trevino and Bhad Bhabie's music video on the Patreon. We should talk about Kaipo.
B
Kaipo. The people know Kaipo, right?
A
I don't know if the people know Kaipo. Kaipo is Makoa's cousin.
B
He's the sweetest angel on this entire planet.
A
He is one of my favorite people ever. Kaipo, if you're watching this, we absolutely love you. And they just grew up together, obviously very close. Kaipo was one of the first people in Mokoa's life that I got close with as well. Just, just. And he's just so loving and sweet and like just the way they all kind of take me in as like their own and text me on the side and like we all hang out. I just love them so much but. And I need to show you their baby photos if I never have. They look.
B
You have, you have. They look exactly the same.
A
Neither of them have aged a day. It's just like, it's so adorable and how close knit they are and like whatever and. But with all of that being said, we're talking about this man like he's a teddy bear.
B
He's a bull fighter.
A
He's a full time bull fighter. And I don't know how this conversation ever came about, but essentially Brooke and.
B
I, we were at the Cheesecake Factory.
A
Oh, were we? Oh, in Oklahoma.
B
Because you ordered buffalo bites.
A
We were in Oklahoma for a show and Kaipo was out there fighting bulls. So he came to the Cheesecake Factory with us and obviously, you know, we're exchanging stories about our day. We're like, we just performed this theater. It was amazing. And Kaipo was like, like, a bull attacked me by the horns. And the footage of it's insane. And somehow I guess the conversation turned into, like, what if we started sponsoring random things, like bull fighting? What if we put the canceled podcast on a jersey?
B
Yeah, like a ma like, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many random, like, little places that we could advertise that nobody would ever think about. And we were like, how funny would this be? And, like, I don't think he. Like, I didn't think, at least in the moment, that he took it that seriously.
A
Me either.
B
He debuted this new bullfighting jersey the other day, literally with canceled podcast across the front.
A
And it's so sweet because he did it on its on his own. Like, we were essentially just saying, like, how funny would this be? And I always. I was like, we need to cut him a check. We absolutely do. And it. You always see, like, prime sponsoring everything. And obviously that makes much more sense. It's a hydration drink. The fan bases may also sports. Duh. But for some reason, I mean, I just always want to do Logan Paul does. It made me realize, like, it would just be so if. Like, if any of you are out there and you do niche things that are on camera or just even just your workplace, like, I think canceled sponsoring niche things is, like, it's our future.
B
You know what I want to do?
A
What?
B
Open up a canceled school.
A
We absolutely should. Tessa Brooks does that, right? I've been.
B
No, I've been looking into it so much. I don't like the program that she did it through People. They don't do it anymore. But I've really been looking into it because I want to do it so bad. Bad.
A
I would literally love to. I would love to. Oh, my God. Imagine cancel school. We need to insert these videos. But first of all, we have to insert the photo.
B
It's just cr.
A
Like, like, what do you actually mean? Look at this. You guys, like, taking a bull by the horns with hot pink canceled on his back. Like, there's just. It's so iconic.
B
Photo is just crazy. Wait, I don't even know if I've seen this video. Okay, wait. Slay thunder. I just watched the DCC doc, and.
A
Bull fighting is so crazy because. What do you mean? Now you're gonna run at this bull in his canceled podcast jersey?
B
Oh, my God.
A
Because his job is to, like, distract the bull from the rider, right?
B
Make sure the rider doesn't get trampled by the bull.
A
And it's so wild too. Just the way he, like, breaks bones, as if it's like us getting a matcha. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he'll just come over like, oh, yeah, this bull just stepped on my collarbone. Like, what's up? What should we do today? And it's like, what do you mean?
B
I'm not gonna lie. The rodeo is another one of those things that I'm like, I can't believe this isn't illegal.
A
Yeah, it's. It's right up there with like, UFC of it all.
B
It's just like, just everything, like, from the human standpoint. And the animals, like, the animals are like, really not fairly treated. And then also, like, the humans are like, at risk of death in every scenario.
A
I was even just unpacking this with Moa, cuz the other day he was telling me Moa is obsessed with watching people climb Mount Everest. And he's like, always watching it. And I was like, if you really look into it. Cuz obviously now, like by proxy, I'm always like, watching people climb Mount Everest, which is just so funny. Like, it's like Kardashians, people climbing Mount Everest. Like, it. I don't know. But do you know any dead bodies? There are. And how many people die a year.
B
And you just pass by them climbing?
A
Yeah. And I. I was asking Nicole, I was like, why does anybody do this? Like, like, my brain is so. Like, yeah, that's cool. But like, so many people die. Like, what's the point? And it's like him just being the thrill seeker where he's like, no, I imagine the sense of accomplishment. Imagine the adrenaline rush. Imagine the view. And I'm like, I don't give a. If the view is literally leprechauns and rainbows. Like, actually, I'm not.
B
Probably is by the time you're up there.
A
Up. Yeah, literally. And I was. I just like. And even. Just all of Moa and his friends, like, watching them snowboard and doing all these flips and tricks and just the thrill seeking, superseding your desire for.
B
That's a drug addiction.
A
I always say that. And it's like, even like, just with Moa now I. I can tell because this is one of his, like, first more serious, long term, like, situations. He's had some. But like, he always tells me, like, you have. Have I look at life differently because of how much I love you. Like, type of thing. Like, I'm much safer now. Like, I'm not gonna jump off that cliff.
B
It's like, when you have kids and you start thinking twice about the things you do because you're like, if I die, like somebody else is affected.
A
Yeah, it's crazy. He like, was wearing a helmet snowboarding for the first time ever for me. And I was like, that's so sweet that you're like, you know what I mean, doing that. But I could tell a little, A little glimmer of his sparkle had died a bit like, you know, and she's like, I don't understand it. It.
B
Have you seen the new trend about cave divers?
A
No.
B
It'll be like cave divers when they see your butt crack or something.
A
And it's like, don't let my boy.
B
Joke, because they'll like go through the tiniest little crevices. But that is like the fact that those people exist. Like, those people are physically alive on this planet and they genuinely, like, wholehearted see the tiniest little sliver. People just get stuck and then they just suffocate to death and die. That's another fear up there with mma, which is like, if I raise a kid into adulthood and they want to be a kid cave diver and just.
A
And even just McCo's mom, like, she's so chill about it. Like she. Cuz obviously that's her son. He's always.
B
I would need the most gabapenton anyone's ever seen a person take.
A
It's insane. I like, to all the girls out there who are dating the like, adventure man, just know that I see you so hard. Because it's like every. Literally he like called me one day in Hawaii and he was like, I'm going to go surfing in the jungle. I go, pemdas, what do you mean you're surfing in the jungle? Like, that doesn't make sense. Sense. Like, what do you mean? And then he like shows me and it's obviously just Madagascar. No cell phone service, anything. And I go to check this man's location and never in my life, ever in my life have I just seen a blue dot in the middle of the ocean like that. Like, no land to be seen. He has no service. It's like that just. I'm like, how? And it's just like a panic attack. And it's like, okay, I'll talk to you in eight hours and hope you're surfing in the jungle. Goes well.
B
Well, I know. What do you do? Put headphones on and take a nap.
A
I know. And I, yeah, I just have to go about my day and just like, oh, where's makai surfing in the jungle?
B
I'm too anxious. I'm gonna have to be one of those parents who just doesn't know what my kid is up to.
A
Yeah, it's. I mean, I. I'm gonna be the opposite, I think, as a parent, like, I just want to know everything, but then I'm gonna have to be like, the cool mom, so they tell me, and it's like, oh, that panic attack.
B
No, I don't. Just not know.
A
Yeah, I have to know. I'm one of those. But it stresses me the out.
B
Do you think you'll be a gentle parent? Parent?
A
I do take pride in my, like, emotional intelligence, and I hope that by the time I have kids, it will have continued. I will have continued to grow in that department heavily. So I think I'll, like, even when I do see moms, like, understanding their kids tantrum and talking them through it, like, I think I will do all of that, like, be very emotionally.
B
I think you. I think you're very.
A
You.
B
You're not, like, temperamental. Like, you don't. I don't like, like, snap at people or get, like, super angry.
A
Yeah, I don't. And I think that I also understand the impact of that, especially with the child. So I would, like, very much walk it off and stuff. But I also, at the same time think that, like, a lot of gentle parenting raises, like, and like, it's like when your kid's chucking a toy car at a stranger on a plane and they're like, oh, Timmy's just feeling too much. Nope. Nuh. Huh?
B
No, I don't think that's what I mean. I think I just. I was in such a turbulent, like, loud, like, abusive, like, environment that now if someone so much as raises their voice, like, even, like, at like, anything, I'm literally like, oh, my God, me too.
A
I always say whenever, like, that specific type of loud, shrill yelling will forever remind me of my mother. And that's so, like, weird.
B
I just started to feel like, like, really, like, oh, my God, do not, like, be like that around me. And it's crazy because I'm. I have a, like, temper, and I like. I don't know. I feel like I'm like a, like, angry yeller.
A
But no, it's like, I don't know. It's just like, I grew up with two very big yellers, like, just always screaming in public. Always screaming, screaming, screaming. And it complet. It turned me off to that so bad. And I also think that when people say the first person to yell loses the argument, like, it's so true. Like, it's like, I don't know, it's just, like, emotionally immature. Like, it's. There's no point. But I don't know, at the same time, like, my kid's like, you know, doing. Eating a Tide pod. I'm probably going to be like, what the are you doing? You know?
B
You ate a tide pod.
A
I did eat a Tide pod. Let's move on to the Patreon. Damn. This episode was a roller coaster, but, like, so good. I feel like this was a really great episode and I'm. I'm excited for our set to get built. Me too. I'm at the point where I just want to get in there with hammers and nails myself because I'm so eager for it to be done and just the everything cost $10,000 thing. But it's.
B
Life is expensive.
A
It is coming and we will have a new set and we're so excited. And I just, I love filming your apartment until then, but I understand how setting all of this up is like a big thing. So we'll be everywhere and nowhere all at once until the set is built. But thank you guys for your patience and. And yeah, I have a lot to say still. And we're gonna go over to the Patreon and cook. But we love you guys so much and thank you.
B
We're gonna react to. Yeah, Patreon.
A
We have a lot to react to. A lot. Oh, I actually just remembered I have to be naked on our Patreon. Do you know I brought fully see.
B
Through shirts because it keeps out for the Patreon. Whoever's leaking our Patreon on YouTube, count your days.
A
Well, the thing is, is, like, obviously when people do that, you have to file claims and it takes a while and it still stays up. I'm kind of happy the Patreon got leaked because it's. It's nice for people to see that there is content on there and that we do do things for the Patreon that we don't do that we don't do anywhere else. And we go to HomeGoods and we talk our. And we are a lot freer on there. I'm. I think I'm going to be naked on the Patreon. I forgot. Are you okay with that? Okay. And it's not. It's not even a sexualized thing. I just think that it takes a while to, like, file the claims and whatnot. And, like, I could just get ahead.
B
Rather just get ahead of it. YouTube's not accepting you. You you think you're mon Monetized? Think again.
A
Yeah, so I think that my tits are going to be out while we react, but that might be wild. Let's go over there. We have a lot to say. Bad baby. Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino. I was gonna say we're coming for you, but, like, not Bad baby. We love you, Bad baby.
B
We are not coming for Bad baby.
A
We love you guys. By.
Podcast Summary: Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield – Episode 112: "Tana’s CHAOTIC Airport Run in with a Hadid…"
Release Date: March 4, 2025
Hosts: Tana Mongeau (Speaker A) & Brooke Schofield (Speaker B)
Produced by: Cancelled & Audioboom Studios
The episode kicks off with Tana and Brooke transitioning from their usual studio setup to a more relaxed living room environment. This shift is intended to create a more intimate and comfortable atmosphere for their listeners.
Brooke (B) [00:15]:
"We're back in the living room, which is super easy to set up, and it's no biggie."
Tana (A) [00:25]:
"It takes so long to set up here. That's why we've been shooting at the studio."
They discuss the differences between their studio setup and the living room, emphasizing the ease and comfort of the latter, allowing for more genuine and unfiltered conversations.
Tana initiates a heartfelt apology to Tara’s world, addressing a past incident that garnered negative attention on social media.
Tana (A) [01:18]:
"I think I should apologize to Tara's world because here's the thing. I love her, and I don't know where I got off."
She reflects on a specific comment that was perceived as judgmental, expressing regret over her words and actions.
Brooke (B) [02:25]:
"I see that video and I'm like, that's stupid. But also, I have done so many things that she would probably even be ashamed of."
Tana shares her personal journey of discovering old fashion choices, leading her to realize the need for an apology.
The conversation shifts to their struggles and experiences with personal style, highlighting their journeys toward self-acceptance.
Tana (A) [05:11]:
"I'm just trying to figure out my personal style. It's not the doctor."
Brooke (B) [05:38]:
"I think there's a lot of shame around, like not having your own sense of style."
They discuss the pressure of following trends and the importance of developing a personal sense of fashion, sharing anecdotes about their favorite and least favorite styles.
Tana recounts a chaotic encounter with fellow influencer Ash Trevino at the airport, detailing the unexpected and tense moments of the encounter.
Brooke (B) [11:17]:
"It was a cold winter night. BB and I had just shown up to the airport."
Tana (A) [16:39]:
"The very first person I see in line with me at JSX is Yolanda Hadid."
Tana describes the scene, her initial excitement, and the subsequent regret as the situation unfolds, highlighting the challenges of interacting with high-profile individuals in public spaces.
The hosts delve into the dynamics of influencer sponsorships, collaborations, and the authenticity of brand partnerships.
Tana (A) [61:07]:
"We should have her on."
Brooke (B) [62:33]:
"I want us to go on honestly together."
They explore the idea of sponsoring niche activities, such as bullfighting, and the impact of such decisions on their personal brands. This segment underscores the balance between monetization and maintaining genuine content.
Tana and Brooke open up about their personal lives, discussing topics like parenting philosophies, past relationships, and personal growth.
Tana (A) [43:07]:
"I feel like this generation is so much more vocal about how people shouldn't have kids and people."
Brooke (B) [46:14]:
"I have so much guilt around it. But I did it and I was successful in it for a long time."
They share their thoughts on gentle parenting, the struggles of maintaining relationships, and the emotional toll of past experiences, providing listeners with a deep and relatable insight into their lives.
The episode highlights interactions with friends and family members, illustrating the complexity and beauty of their personal relationships.
Tana (A) [60:16]:
"Kaipo is Makoa's cousin. He's the sweetest angel on this entire planet."
Brooke (B) [61:34]:
"He's a full-time bullfighter."
Tana shares a humorous and heartwarming story about Kaipo, her cousin, and his adventurous spirit, while Brooke discusses her aspirations to open a "Cancelled School," emphasizing their close-knit friendship and mutual support.
As the episode nears its end, Tana and Brooke discuss their future plans, including set construction and exclusive content available on Patreon.
Tana (A) [70:02]:
"We're gonna react to Bad baby. Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino. I was gonna say we're coming for you, but, like, not Bad baby."
Brooke (B) [70:28]:
"We have a lot to say. We have a lot to react to."
They tease upcoming content, including reaction episodes and behind-the-scenes glimpses, inviting listeners to support them through Patreon for more exclusive and unfiltered discussions.
Tana (A) [01:18]:
"I should apologize to Tara's world because I love her, and I don't know where I got off."
Brooke (B) [05:38]:
"I think there's a lot of shame around, like not having your own sense of style."
Tana (A) [16:39]:
"The very first person I see in line with me at JSX is Yolanda Hadid."
Brooke (B) [46:14]:
"I have so much guilt around it. But I did it and I was successful in it for a long time."
Tana (A) [43:07]:
"I feel like this generation is so much more vocal about how people shouldn't have kids and people."
Episode 112 of "Cancelled" offers listeners an intimate glimpse into Tana Mongeau and Brooke Schofield's lives, blending personal anecdotes with candid discussions about influencer culture, personal growth, and relationships. The hosts' authentic interactions and reflective conversations provide a compelling narrative that resonates with both long-time fans and new listeners alike.
Listeners are encouraged to follow their journey on Patreon for deeper dives into the topics discussed and to support the show’s ongoing evolution.
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