113: Camilla Araújo on Bhad Bhabie, Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino and MORE..

Summary

Cancelled with Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield - Episode 113 Summary

Episode Details:

• Title: Camilla Araújo on Bhad Bhabie, Alabama Barker, Ash Trevino and MORE..
• Release Date: March 13, 2025
• Hosts: Tana Mongeau & Brooke Schofield
• Guest: Camilla Araújo from the Bop House

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1. Home Buying Challenges

Timestamp: 03:00 - 07:12

Tana Mongeau kicks off the episode by sharing her tumultuous experience purchasing her first home. Despite thorough inspections declaring the house perfect, she encounters numerous unexpected issues:

• Pool Heater Problems: Tana discovers rats have chewed through the pool heater wires, necessitating an $8,000 replacement. (04:43)

  • Tana: “But then I move in and it's just like everything keeps going wrong. Everything costs $10,000.”

• Faulty Lock Installation: She experiences frustration with Yale lock installation errors, leading to security breaches and missing items. (05:10)

  • Tana: “The lock was just given me a faulty… I can't even get in my house.”

• Exorbitant Repair Costs: From $5,000 on wallpaper removal to $300 for a button flying off her pants, Tana emphasizes the hidden costs of homeownership. (06:03)

• Podcast Studio Construction: Building her podcast studio becomes another financial strain, costing $25,000 and requiring additional fixes. (07:12)

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2. Introducing Camilla Araújo and the Bop House

Timestamp: 15:00 - 35:04

Tana introduces Camilla Araújo, a prominent member of the Bop House, who has been instrumental in the group's dynamics. Camilla delves into her journey:

• Rise to Fame: Camilla recounts how a malfunction during the filming of Mr. Beast's Squid Games led to a viral surge in her TikTok following, skyrocketing from 7,000 to 145,000 followers overnight. (29:19 - 31:08)

  • Camilla: “I woke up the next morning to 145,000 followers in one day.”

• Career Struggles and Growth: Despite initial success, Camilla faced challenges like maintaining momentum, leading her to write TV shows and eventually embrace her role in the Bop House. (32:17 - 35:36)

  • Camilla: “I did everything and I really was so broke. And I told myself, I will not go back to school.”

• Building the Bop House: Camilla explains the organic creation of the Bop House, emphasizing its foundation on mutual support and individual success without external control. (37:37 - 38:57)

  • Camilla: “We don't think it's gonna be that big. We're like, yeah, let's just do something. Let's call it the Bop House.”

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3. Navigating Toxic Relationships and Friendships

Timestamp: 57:00 - 90:00

The conversation deepens as Tana and Camilla discuss personal experiences with toxic relationships and the impact on friendships:

• Personal Struggles: Both hosts share their battles with toxic relationships, highlighting the emotional turmoil and physical manifestations like chest pain and anxiety. (57:04 - 65:06)

  • Tana: “It's like your parents are just people trying to navigate this shit.”
  • Camilla: “I'm so bad at it… I'm very emotional.”

• Conflict Resolution: They emphasize the importance of cooling down before addressing conflicts to prevent escalation, a lesson they are continually learning. (65:33 - 67:03)

  • Camilla: “I'll never attack anyone, ever. That's just not me.”
  • Tana: “We all are learning. Just be present in the moment.”

• Impact on Friendship: Tana recounts a significant fallout during a trip to Miami, illustrating the strain toxic relationships can place on close friendships. (56:37 - 65:30)

  • Brooke: “Like, I couldn't believe what was happening. I had to let her go.”

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4. Handling Online Fame and Public Perception

Timestamp: 90:00 - 115:00

Tana and Camilla transition to discussing the complexities of online fame:

• Dealing with Critics: They talk about the incessant online criticism and the pressure of maintaining a positive public image while staying true to themselves. (90:00 - 100:00)

  • Camilla: “I want to be the one that can break through that stigma.”

• Authenticity vs. Persona: Camilla expresses her commitment to being authentic in her podcasting endeavors, aiming to tell compelling stories rather than just seeking clout. (100:00 - 115:00)

  • Camilla: “I want to make someone’s life. It’s what I live for.”

• Income and Success: The hosts boast about their earnings, highlighting the financial success achieved through their influencer status.

  • Camilla: “Sophie is at 3-4 mil a month...”
  • Tana: “I don't even know how much I make me.”

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5. The Concept and Future of the Bop House Miami Experience

Timestamp: 115:00 - 124:38

Camilla elaborates on the Bop House Miami Experience, a new venture aimed at fostering authentic connections and supporting each other's growth without the typical pitfalls of content houses:

• Organic Growth: The Bop House was formed from long-standing friendships and mutual support, distinguishing it from other influencer houses that often face internal conflicts. (116:03 - 120:34)

  • Camilla: “We are our own CEOs. We have a brain to make our own decisions.”

• Private vs. Public Dynamics: They discuss maintaining privacy and handling stalkers, ensuring the safety and well-being of all members. (120:43 - 124:38)

  • Camilla: “He's convicted, but she's telling us her story. We want to protect ourselves.”

• Future Plans: Plans include hosting glamorous yet authentic events in Miami, such as yacht parties and exclusive gatherings, while maintaining their unique brand of content creation. (122:42 - 124:38)

  • Tana: “It's like, you're a powerhouse.”

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6. Mental Health and Personal Growth

Timestamp: 124:38 - End

The episode concludes with a heartfelt discussion on mental health, personal growth, and the importance of self-awareness:

• Overcoming Addiction: Both hosts touch upon their struggles with substances like vaping and the importance of self-control and personal decision-making. (77:03 - 80:25)

  • Camilla: “I genuinely think it's because I'm like, I could be spending my time doing something productive.”

• Parenting Aspirations: Camilla shares her fears and aspirations about future parenting, emphasizing protecting her child from the harsh realities she faced. (114:00 - 116:56)

  • Camilla: “I would be an overbearing mother. I would protect my daughter from the world.”

• Advice and Reflections: Tana offers advice to younger listeners about staying present and valuing their unique stories amidst the chaos of fame and social media pressures. (122:25 - 125:19)

  • Tana: “Be present in the moment because what you're doing is so special.”

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Notable Quotes:

• Tana Mongeau at 04:43:
  “But then I move in and it's just like everything keeps going wrong. Everything costs $10,000.”

• Camilla Araújo at 29:19:
  “I woke up the next morning to 145,000 followers in one day.”

• Camilla Araújo at 32:40:
  “I had to leave the real estate job because the head of the company… He gave me a settlement check.”

• Camilla Araújo at 57:00:
  “Seeing them thrive, like, bro, that's the one thing I love about the Bop House. We love watching everyone succeed.”

• Tana Mongeau at 101:24:
  “We are all one brick of knocking it down.”

• Camilla Araújo at 115:37:
  “But I love the word treesh. It's such a.”

• Both Hosts at 125:22:
  Tana: “We are all learning. Just be present in the moment.”
  Camilla: “I'm so proud of you.”

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Conclusion:

In this episode, Tana Mongeau and Brooke Schofield engage in deep and personal conversations with guest Camilla Araújo, exploring the highs and lows of influencer life, the importance of authenticity, and the challenges of maintaining mental health amidst fame. The hosts emphasize the significance of genuine connections, self-awareness, and supporting one another in their journey towards personal and professional growth.

Transcript

[Tana Mongeau]

Hello and welcome back to the canceled podcast. Oscar's gonna walk through the shot right now. We're honestly gonna leave it in. Look at that. Bts. Hi, Brookie, Cookie.

[Camilla Woo]

Hello, my queen.

[Brookie]

I'm so jealous of your outfit right now. I literally walked into the store. I wanted it so bad.

[Tana Mongeau]

Here's the thing is what I'm gonna say. We love Ms. Halsa and we love Ms. Elsa. The brand is great. These. The pants are too big for me. Way too big. And that's me and my dysmorphia. Like, why are you ordering a 2XL? You're literally a medium.

[Brookie]

You ordered a 2XXL.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just, they're too big. I don't know. And then just grabbing them today, like, in my hands, the button flew off and I was like, oh, $300.

[Brookie]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

But, you know.

[Brookie]

You know, what's the problem with an outfit like that? I wear it one time, and then it doesn't matter how I store it. I could literally store it in, like, a. A perfect little bag. It's gonna be so wrinkly, I can never wear it ever again.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, okay. I thought you were gonna say just because it's, like, kind of memorable. Like, it's like, I'm Stripe girl.

[Brookie]

I can't be wearing outfit a thousand times.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I do love these days. Honestly, with my addicted top, that is the number nine. But Isabella said it looks like the letter Y, and now I can't unsee it. But why? Also feels like a message I am constantly sending to the world.

[Camilla Woo]

Why?

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to talk about why, actually. Okay. I've debated, really debated bringing this to the podcast. Well, I should just also say that today we are having Ms. Camila Woo from the Bop House on the podcast. From lots of things. She just interviewed Ash Trevino. All the things. I mean, it's so funny. We go back and forth on if we want to be the Tick Tock Drama podcast or not. And then I just think people.

[Brookie]

Sometimes people don't want us to be an interview podcast.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree. I'm hoping. Well, the reason what sold me is I'm going to the Bop House at the end of March.

[Brookie]

That's so exciting. I cannot wait to see the content.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am so. I am so excited. But I called her, and it was supposed to be just like, a five minute call, and then we ended up being on the phone for, like, 45 minutes. And you know how sometimes you do not enjoy that and it feels as though you wish you still had minutes, and you could be like, my minutes are running Out. But it was the exact opposite with her. Like, I really enjoyed the call. It was a great conversation. I was like, oh, shit.

[Brookie]

Yeah, she's very smart.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, if it was just an interview, I feel like I wouldn't. But like, I feel like it's gonna be a kiki with the girls, hopefully. But also I'm wrong a lot.

[Brookie]

I'm wrong more than she is.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's every time I think an episode or an interview is gonna be a banger. Actually, just afterwards, I should lay on the 405.

[Brookie]

That's something we should talk about. We never really mentioned that. The fact that like almost every single episode ever, that's come out and been like a major controversy. We've sat down after and been like, that was amazing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, that's funny. That's not what I thought you're gonna say. But you're so right. Like, I think my finger's so on the pulse. Or even just I'm like, this will do so well. And then it's everyone's like, why the would you do that?

[Brookie]

Yeah, you know, it's really actually crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

So off the pulse. But I did just like love watching her interview Ash Trevino. And it's interesting. I want to know what happens at the BOP house. I want to know. She's. She's team Bad, baby. I feel like she told me some intel on the phone the other day that I'm wondering if she'll share. But as we do before our guest comes, we like to just yap a little to the girls.

[Brookie]

Absolutely. Now I want to know why.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why? Okay. I just. I don't ever like bitching about my new house that I just bought. Okay. And everyone gets so on me for constantly saying this phrase, but it's so true. Like, obviously, if you told 15 year old me with the dirty door that she would be able to do this, it's the most grateful thing on planet earth. But I was debating between two houses, okay. And I think about the one that I passed on a lot. Okay. There was mold. There was a lot wrong with it. I would have had to put like damn near a million dollars into this house, but it was cheaper, so it would have ended up being the same price, kind of. I decided in the final moments that it just wasn't the right decision for my first house to be a house that has a lot of mold.

[Brookie]

A fixer upper.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You know, like, Tana loves mold. We just, we. We need to let that die. And I. So I picked this house that everyone and I'm talking inspectors and my realtor and all the people around me. It's perfect. You know, we get all the inspections. It's perfect. Nothing is wrong with it. Even the inspectors are like, I haven't seen a house with this little problems in so long. It just, it felt so right. And then I move in and it's just like as everything keeps going wrong. Everything costs $10,000. Everything, everything costs. Like the other day, for example, we keep trying to heat the pool, right? And we're just, we're trying to heat the pool. We're using the apps, we're doing all the things and it keeps saying it is, but it isn't.

[Brookie]

How long it takes a long time, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, yeah. We're trying for days before the super bowl party. We're trying to do our thing, whatever. We go in to the pool heater and it is made known to us that this is a home for rats. The rats are. They've got a two story condo. They're. They're catching a vibe in my pool heater. Wires completely chewed through. And I'm like, okay, perfect. Let's get a new pool heater.

[Brookie]

How much?

[Tana Mongeau]

$8,000.

[Brookie]

Honestly, that sounds about right.

[Tana Mongeau]

$8,000 for a pool heater? I will rub sticks together myself. I get it. But it's just like, there's got to be a way around that. Like, what do you mean? It's $8,000 and that's everything. Like, the H vac system's kind of shitty. Like, and just like there's another 10. And then it's like, I wanted a Yale lock in the door and Yale comes to install it. And Yale is Yale lock be. Boop boop number. Oh, I like that. I lose keys, you know, And Yale is the esteemed company, it's the best in the business. They come out and the guy installs it wrong. Then he tells me to go myself. He tells me, I'm sorry, I installed it wrong. You're going to have to pay for someone else to install it. Right. Second guy, third guy. Now it's. Apparently it's a Yale problem. I have to take it up with Yale. The lock was just. They gave me a faulty fucking. I can't even get in my house. Like, and it's. I'm missing things too. I don't even know what I'm missing.

[Brookie]

Well, I think you were about to tell us about your chandelier.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, yes. Wallpaper removal was also like $5,000. And I just really thought it was going to be some guy with a Butter knife and, like, 600 bucks.

[Brookie]

It's just still upset about that, though. That was like. That was, you know, those tiktoks of people, like, taking the character away.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, here you go.

[Brookie]

That's what happened.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, that wallpaper was so Karen Maga central. Like, it was just giving. Angry, bored mom with lots of fake plants. It was just.

[Brookie]

What's maga about liking the planet? In fact, I would say it's anti Maga.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, it's not about liking the planet. That wallpaper just gives Karen galore. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, you know, the. The cursive, Karen, the cursive writing, like, live Last love. Yes.

[Brookie]

Millennial.

[Tana Mongeau]

It was so live. Laugh love, Millennial. I'm gonna lime wash it soon. We'll have character. I'll hang a painting. Don't worry. I want to talk about our podcast studio. Okay. Everyone's like, oh, we hate this studio. Me too. Sorry. I'm kidding. I don't hate the studio. It's haunted. But we're building a podcast studio, and for some reason, I think this is going to take five minutes. You know, I'm like, it'll take five minutes. Peel and stick. We'll have a studio. Boom, bing, bing, boom. Another thing that's also $25,000. Today they came and they started building, and they let us know very soon before. This is something I feel like I should have known all along that the chandelier must be removed from the room. Okay. And in my opinion, no, the fuck. It doesn't need to be removed.

[Brookie]

I'm gonna say I saw it. I told you. I was like, that's gonna have to be.

[Tana Mongeau]

It does. It's too low. People will hit their head. Tall guests.

[Brookie]

It goes down to, like, here.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's definitely supposed to be over, like, a table, 100%. And, yeah, we have to get it removed. And then last night, a task rabbit comes to remove it. A chandelier remover.

[Brookie]

Can I say something?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Brookie]

And I'm not hating on your like, but is TaskRabbit the right place to find somebody who's doing a task like that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. Really?

[Brookie]

I kind of feel like it's like.

[Tana Mongeau]

You feel like it's boof?

[Brookie]

I feel like it's a little boof. Like, I love tasks. I live and die by TaskRabbit. But it's kind of like getting, like, a groupon for something. Like, really? That you shouldn't get a groupon for. Like, a groupon for a boob job.

[Tana Mongeau]

Okay.

[Brookie]

That's Like, a really no.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm gonna. I'm gonna have to honestly agree with you after my last 24 hours. But the thing is, also, is that the second you start going through an official company, everything's $7,000, and then that you still can't get in your front door. You know, it's. It. There's just. There's no winning for me with this lately. And the guy comes, he needs a ladder, and I'm just like, dude, this is what you do. This is your bread and butter. What do you mean you don't have a ladder? It's like Alexis Oakley showing up with no brushes. Like, I literally. I can't even.

[Brookie]

Maybe he assumed that because you have, like, a big, beautiful. I feel like, a lot. Most houses have, like, a ladder on the side of the house. Like, that's like a. A house staple. But I also, like, completely understand why you don't have a lot.

[Tana Mongeau]

But that's, again, that's like Alexis Oakley assuming because I'm so beautiful that I have makeup brushes.

[Brookie]

That's a good one.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what I mean? I'm kidding. But I don't have a ladder. Okay? I have a stepping stool. It's not high enough. Okay.

[Brookie]

Could we have given him a boot? Like, was there anything that he could have stood on that was. How.

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Brookie]

I mean, if it hangs so low, how high does he have to be?

[Tana Mongeau]

The ceiling is very, very high, and it does, like, hang low. I don't know. And then my security decides that he's gonna go get a ladder, and he goes to the ladder stores, and they're sold out of ladders. So now I'm paying this TaskRabbit overtime to tell Anna Lee all about his nasal problems. And the chandelier is still hanging. It's so beautiful. And the only thing, too, that in the back of my head, I was like, you know what? Once the chandelier is down, I'm gonna put that on offer up, and I'm going to make my money back. Okay? Meanwhile, security, once again, he goes to the second ladder store. They are sold out of ladders. He comes back, tail between his legs. Nothing. We look this guy with his deviated septum, his nasal issues in the eye, and we say, can you come back in the morning before the builders come? We'll get you a ladder. He comes back in the morning. He now has assisted height. He walks into the room. He begins to unscrew the chandelier, and it falls to the ground and shatters.

[Brookie]

Next question. In what world could it have possibly been a one person job? Because, like, if you think about that.

[Tana Mongeau]

That'S a him, but that's on him.

[Camilla Woo]

That's.

[Brookie]

No, that's what I was gonna say. It's not your fault at all. But in my head, I'm like, there's no. No matter how much talent you have, how are you gonna get a chandelier out of the ceiling with just one guy?

[Tana Mongeau]

And at that point, I would have rather given Makoa an Adderall and a stool, because at least he cares, by the way.

[Brookie]

It's not like. Like, it's a bit. It's like taking this table from the ceiling, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I agree. It's just like, I don't. You know, that's not my expertise. Chandeliers, right? I'm assuming the chandelier expert knows how to remove the chandelier, and now I can't even fucking sell it. Then he's gaslighting the shit out Annelise, saying that it was just installed improperly, and if we had an earthquake, someone would have died. And maybe that means the TaskRabbit, though.

[Brookie]

I'm like, fuck. Like, that sucks that this is completely someone else's fault.

[Tana Mongeau]

And maybe it is. You know what I mean? Even the pool heater, I'm like, I was researching, like, whose fault is that? And, like, I could sue my realtor, but, like, I love her. You know, it's like, I'm just. And then that would also just cost $8,000. It. I just think that people market buying a new. A brand new home or a really new home as just, like, you're done.

[Brookie]

And, like. And like, a really smart financial decision. You'll never regret it. It's an investment. But I just had this talk with somebody else who was explaining the. To me. He was like, like, it's no longer more financially, like, smart, because by the time, like, you know, it increases, like, x amount of dollars in the time that you own it, but you put that amount in or more.

[Tana Mongeau]

So, like, oh, my God, that face is gonna get clipped, and there's gonna be another Botox tick tock.

[Brookie]

Oh, my God, that Botox tick tock was crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, 8 million views. I just want to say I'd rather have a frozen face, and then when I make that one face, it's weird. But then, like, I don't have wrinkles.

[Brookie]

I completely agree.

[Tana Mongeau]

It' Kardashian's crying face. Like, everyone made fun of it, but, like, then look at her. Kim Kardashian's face. Face.

[Brookie]

Yeah, I'm.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I don't know. Whatever.

[Brookie]

Well, I'm sorry that's happening to you. I am still proud of you for buying your house. And I hope this doesn't deter you or this doesn't make you regret your decision.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's the most champagne problem literally on planet earth. And I know that. I just think that I wish someone told me, like you're going to bleed money on the most random shit and it's not even going to be like cosmetic shit that makes the value of the house go up. Like pool heaters are $8,000. And just my luck, it's, I always say I have the, the best, worst luck. You know, like, I'm so lucky to be able to buy this house. But like, of course it's gonna happen.

[Brookie]

In like the most unfortunate way.

[Tana Mongeau]

Of course rats live in the pool heater. And of course the chandelier was hanging on with bubble gum. And of course just, I don't know, just all the things and that's like one of like a 10, 000 other things. So it's just like wild. Like even just her full time job is like a house that's so, that's.

[Brookie]

Like most people, like really rich people have like property managers like that their whole job is to handle all those things all day long.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I miss Hollywood. I know you do.

[Brookie]

But I like, I think that that's, that'll go away over time because I like really love your area so much.

[Tana Mongeau]

I do too. And I think I just thought the adjustment would take like two weeks time to be like, oh, I live further. And like I used to always in my Jake Paul era, go back and forth from Calabasas.

[Camilla Woo]

Just happened.

[Brookie]

I take, I, I'm so sorry.

[Tana Mongeau]

Teresa Caputo. I am Teresa Cudo. Because what the was that?

[Brookie]

There's.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm about to pull my hair up.

[Camilla Woo]

What are we naming it?

[Brookie]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I, I promise you. I, I, I feel so validated. I feel so seen.

[Brookie]

I'm never doubting you again. I'm, I apologize profusely.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I feel so seen. No, I feel so seen. No, I feel so seen. No, I, I'm so sorry. I'm just repeating myself. I have like a stimming issue and I'm not even scared because I knew.

[Brookie]

It'S so crazy how many times you've like drilled into my head that this place is haunted. And I'm like, oh, come on.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I promise you it's nothing. I just know it.

[Camilla Woo]

You.

[Brookie]

We need to look into that. We need to have somebody come sage you or something?

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel no, but it's like I leave here and I'm fine. Like, I just.

[Brookie]

You feel the energy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know how to.

[Brookie]

Who can tell you? Who can, like, measure you for that?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't know if. No, I'm clairvoyance. Wait.

[Brookie]

That was so crazy. I wish we could watch that back. I saw it, like, it, like, literally.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, dude, even the other day I didn't podcast about this because I thought I would just sound skits. But now here we fudgeing are. Okay, here we fudgeing are. I was walking into LAX and I have this like, extreme vision that I'm going to run into one of Mod Sun's friends. And I see it and then I think in my own head, I'm like, that wasn't my thought. And why am I having that thought? That's so weird. Like, why am I going to run into Modson's best friend Brennan right now? And I just, like, think about how weird it is and I go through tsa and sure as shit, he's there. And he's like, hi, Tana, how are you? And in my head, I'm trying to have a normal conversation with him, but I'm like, I just knew this was going to happen 10 minutes ago.

[Brookie]

That's so weird. I don't know what that is.

[Tana Mongeau]

Now I have a weird taste in my mouth that wasn't there before. Am I.

[Brookie]

That was crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

I, like, I'm having chest pain.

[Brookie]

I feel bad, but I feel like there's. There's been so many times now that I've doubted, you know, because of me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right.

[Camilla Woo]

And I'm.

[Brookie]

I regret it and I should never doubt you again. And I really do apologize about that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. I think I'm psychic and, like, maybe I'm crazy.

[Brookie]

That could be.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm excited to have Camilla on and get all the tea. Let's get her in here. I think she's here. Yeah, You. And I had like a five minute phone call because I'm coming in hot to the Bob House.

[Camilla Woo]

Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm so excited.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, the Bob House is so excited to have you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am so excited. It. I just like, feel like I randomly insert myself into certain things, certain tik tok things. And I. This one, I was like, I'm the OG Bop. I've been a bop forever. I got a bop to the top.

[Brookie]

I'm so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I just love Miami. Like, I'm just so excited. But anyways, it was supposed to be Like a five minute call. And then you and I were on the phone for like 45 minutes reading everyone to filth. The amount of tea you have in your arsenal is crazy. And it's just hard being that girl. I feel like the Ash Trevino interview also elevated you to like such a different plane. Because it's one thing, like the Bob House is insane. It's huge. It's killing it. Like, you're killing it. You're so hot. But you said I'm an interviewer too, and I'm a personality.

[Camilla Woo]

I think a lot of the times TikToks are like. They're like like 30 seconds, 60 seconds. And like, I'm like, no, no, no. Like I'm at guys. I swear I'm funny. I swear I can be funny. And so I'm like, okay, who the fuck is this Astrovino girl?

[Tana Mongeau]

So, yeah, how did that all even, like, come about? And I'm gonna ask you. I want you to. I don't know enough about her. I keep saying I don't wanna platform her, but I guess I'm not. If it's cause you are on the opposite side, the right side of history there, you know, which is good.

[Camilla Woo]

So. Gosh, she's so ancient. The whole reason this started, right? Cause I don't know if you noticed, once you start, once you see one video game over, it's a black hole. Takes over your life.

[Brookie]

Damn near never in my entire life have I seen her actual account. It's just people reposting her lives.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, it's.

[Brookie]

I don't even know if she has. I thought for a second I blocked her or something.

[Camilla Woo]

She has like two accounts with like 300k. Like, it's almost like everyone loves watching her live. No one gives a fuck what she's.

[Brookie]

Doing that actually, has she ever like, posted a video? Does Ash Trevino have any, like, videos?

[Camilla Woo]

She fully posted a video. Being like, like it's like a selfie. It's like the Bop House sucks. They're like, da, da, da, da. She made like a diss at the Bop House. I'm like, okay, period. At least I made it on the main page.

[Tana Mongeau]

And isn't she like, how old is she?

[Camilla Woo]

She claims allegedly 36, but I heard she's 43.

[Brookie]

Because she has 1981 tattooed on her body. And she's 43, I think.

[Tana Mongeau]

Doesn't she give like birth year tattooed.

[Camilla Woo]

On her 1 trillion percent? Yeah, 100. Or like maybe one of her, like, inmate, like, you know what I'm saying? Like some Inmate husbands.

[Tana Mongeau]

You see the videos. Duh. You're going down the rabbit hole. Duh. As we, as we all do, unfortunately. And then how did it.

[Camilla Woo]

I, I would say that I'm. I could re. I understood the assignment, right? I'm like, okay, she lies for clout. She does all this shit for clout. I'm like, so, shit, let's have a podcast. Let's have a little. Let's have a little fun, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

The clout trap debate.

[Camilla Woo]

You want to have a conversation? Let's have a conversation. Meaning. And I told her this in person. I said, on live, it's easy to sit on your phone and just talk. You know, you're. You can't read the comments that fast. But when it's like this, I'm like, did you or did you not sleep with blank? Like, you can't just avoid it. You can't just not. You can't just sit.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can't just, like, thank someone for a galaxy, right? And call it a day.

[Camilla Woo]

That motherfucking part.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

So I was like, I reached out to her daughters because. Because I was like, what I don't want is to give her the opportunity to continue to lie. No one would have ever known that she sold her daughter out for a fucking galaxy if her daughter wasn't there to say it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you can read.

[Camilla Woo]

And here's the thing. The truth will always be for the truth. So having her kids there, it was.

[Tana Mongeau]

Such a smart move.

[Camilla Woo]

I think when you watch a podcast, you can read body language. You can. There's so many cameras, and so it's like, you'll be able to tell from the facial expressions. And I feel like the girls told the story, maybe not verbally, but with their face. And I knew that every time her mom would say something, it was like a.

[Tana Mongeau]

The hospital sellout thing was, like, crazy. I feel like that podcast did. Cause there were so many people before, I think, supporting her, and it almost did, like, shine a whole new light on, wait, hey, ask Trevino for prison, right? And it's like, it's so funny. She's, like, suing everyone. Like, I wonder if she's gonna try me, but I'm curious.

[Brookie]

Like, how did you get her to agree to it? Like, like, what incentive did she have?

[Camilla Woo]

It was all on live. It happened on live.

[Tana Mongeau]

No shit.

[Camilla Woo]

It happened on live. I texted her. I, I, I DMed her daughter. I said, hey, I'd love to have you and your mom on the podcast, because Astrovino loves to act like she doesn't know who People fucking are be. So what's called fucking for her?

[Tana Mongeau]

She's an emojia.

[Camilla Woo]

She's like, who's Ice Spice? Oh, you were listening to her two seconds ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Anyway, so her daughter calls into, I guess on her other phone, and she was like, yo, this girl from the. From the Bop House wants you and I to go on her podcast. Like, we have to go. And she's like, obviously hits the who's that? Line. Whatever. I'll let that one go. She was like, oh, I'm gonna do this to make my daughters happy. My daughter seems so excited about this. Like, I'm.

[Tana Mongeau]

In reality. The daughters are probably just excited for some truth out there, which is also just.

[Camilla Woo]

I will say this is the first time I've talked about it. I have reached out to Haley specifically, and I asked. I did say, hey, are you okay? Is there something I can do? Are you okay? I'm sorry if I've caused you any harm. I meant nothing, but I wanted you to be there to tell your story. And she even. She was absolutely like, I'm totally fine. Me and my sister are okay. Thank you for checking in. But I truly did it, so there was no question of, you know, is she lying? Is she not? You saw it right then and there. It happened. We were there, like, all together. Like, it happened live.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

So I think where. Like, the. Where she kind of went off on me was. It was not painted in the way she thought it was.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And she was just pissed.

[Camilla Woo]

She was.

[Brookie]

That was my question.

[Camilla Woo]

Pissed.

[Brookie]

Did she think it was gonna be like.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's probably just an idiot.

[Brookie]

You were on her side.

[Camilla Woo]

Literal. Did you think was going to happen? Like, if you could be so fucking for real for a second?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

What in the. You think I'm a fan? You think I'm. But she is.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's delusional.

[Brookie]

She really does feel like people. She has fans and supporters and, like, people.

[Camilla Woo]

She sat there dead ass before the podcast started and said, I literally hate that I have to go everywhere with security. And I just feel like I miss my old life really quick.

[Brookie]

I saw her saying that on Live and then ran into her at the airport. Not a soul in sight. She's completely alone. Like, nobody's approaching her.

[Tana Mongeau]

By the way, security is also expensive. And I know she's making a lot of money.

[Brookie]

Did you see her walk around with the guy with, like, big security across his shirt?

[Tana Mongeau]

And, you know, it's just her friend.

[Brookie]

In an Amazon, he was in vans.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I've bought those security jackets off of Amazon for 39. So I don't want to hear it.

[Tana Mongeau]

For a Halloween costume with a lace bra, right?

[Camilla Woo]

And a little badge. It's like a little plastic badge you can fucking snap in half. Like, I'm over it, dude. Over.

[Tana Mongeau]

I mean, obviously, it's just over, right? Like, you're never gonna talk to her again. Duh.

[Camilla Woo]

So.

[Tana Mongeau]

But she tried.

[Camilla Woo]

Did she try to sue you?

[Tana Mongeau]

Sorry, she.

[Camilla Woo]

She. Well, she went on live and was like, she'll be hearing from my people. And then I was like, I made a joke, right? I reached first, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

People. It's so concerning.

[Camilla Woo]

And so I made a joke. I was like, I've been sent, like, three cease and desist this fucking year. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna call my fucking attorney, and we're gonna cease and desist.

[Tana Mongeau]

And good for you. Because it's like, people really do try to scare people. Like, you know, that's just her doing that. And, like, in the beginning of your career, too, like, the first couple times that. And especially so soon for you, you know what I mean? Like, right now, you're, like, catching all these cases. Like, that's enough to make someone, like, shut up and stop and be afraid and all the things. And I think it's really good that you're not, because it's just like. And you'll probably end up winning half of them if you really want to go to litigation anyways.

[Camilla Woo]

But, no, I don't think anyone wants to go there. And to be very honest with you, everyone does say, oh, Camilla's a marketing queen. Yeah. One thing I'm not is fucking stupid. I am smart. I know what I'm doing. Do I really, genuinely. Am I actually hurt over these seasons? Just. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

But what was the other one, Alabama, though?

[Camilla Woo]

Alabama, I got threatened by the blonde House. That guy. Dude, I could get.

[Tana Mongeau]

I didn't know there was House on House Beef.

[Camilla Woo]

Okay, okay, so we'll get into that. That's. That's insane. I got a call from their lawyers, their attorneys, and they're like, yo, if you don't take this shit down, like, we're gonna. They're filing a police report, but that's a whole different thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is so wild. It's like, just bring Internet beef back. Even Alabama. It's like, you want to be that serious?

[Camilla Woo]

In my opinion.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And it's like, you. You can't say that you want to be a rapper, and then the second someone is detesting you, you're running to dad and, like, Ceasing. And I. I genuinely.

[Camilla Woo]

I'd be very honest with you. I didn't think it was for real. The second she was like, I got the letter, I was like, oh, yeah, okay, cool. Like, I'll just shut up because, like, I don't care. Like, I don't need this. I don't need this. Like, to be honest with you. And, like, yeah, like, obviously, I'm a Bhad Bhabie fan. Like, to the day I die, I rock for that girl. Like, she's fucking amazing.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I. I love women in stem.

[Camilla Woo]

I just think, like, it for me, it wasn't that deep. I think I actually probably hurt her or hit a spot that kind of hurt.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just the feeling of, like, I'm losing, and then, like, you have all.

[Camilla Woo]

Those resources, and that's fine. Like, so I just shut up. Just cool. Like, I don't need it. Like, next 100 issues. Like, whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

How did that start? Or can you. Are we ceased and we're desisted?

[Camilla Woo]

I mean, nothing's a lie. It was. Someone commented under my video and was like, yo, you should add Miss Girl to the Bobhouse. And I was like, oh, I would never. Given that. The story with her and Bhad Bhabie's man Lavon. And so I was like, I would never. I just think that's kind of trashy to go after someone else's man. Then it spiraled. She answered. I was like, oh, bet.

[Tana Mongeau]

And she was kind of like, of shaming, too.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is wild. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Her mom did the original of. Right. Playboy.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. Which fire, by the way. That's great.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's like, you should be. It's in your blood. You should be nothing but supportive of this. Like.

[Camilla Woo]

And I think a lot of people around her, too, also do. Of.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mm.

[Camilla Woo]

So I thought it. I do think when she expressed that it. Everyone else in her life was kind of like, hold up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Brookie]

It'd be so strange. It's like, if I were to say, like, that's so disgusting.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's like, I'm like, you know.

[Camilla Woo]

And you're sitting there, like, Right.

[Brookie]

It's strange.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. It was just odd. So I was like, okay, like, I guess we're taking shots there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, I also think it's just. You're in a very wild position. I appreciate that you continue to say, like, no, I'm fucking smart, and like, so on and so forth, because it's like the Bop House, right? Like, people are going to immediately just want to diminish you, to like, you know what I mean? A bop and a dumb girl and you know what I mean? Just the, even, just the way people treat me, like, the second you do, people are going to immediately say, you're so stupid.

[Camilla Woo]

You know what I think is so insane? And I had this conversation earlier today. People are brands even, you know, they won't work with you if you don't. And this, that, and the third. But it's like, why we convert so fucking well. The bop house right now is on fucking fire. And if you can't, like, I almost wanna be the one that, like, can break through that, that, that stigma. And yeah, sure, I understand, like, it's not the most glamorous industry, but I feel like people also say, like, it's not horrible.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's going to continue to take people like you to slowly knock down that wall. That may take 25 years to really knock it down, but the first person.

[Camilla Woo]

That does it, I promise you, is gonna change.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, it's all of us. I think it's. We're all like one brick of knocking it down, you know, And I, I appreciate you saying not to glamorize it because I think even I did that for so long because it's like we have this amazing story and like, whatever. I'm recognizing that we are. You know what I mean? Like, Just the. Not the 1%, but it's not this.

[Camilla Woo]

It is not like this for everyone. And, and I. But at the same time, like, I feel like people talk about it in a way where it's like sex. Like, we're like, we're being like sex trafficked and we're being like, pimped out. And we're like, this is not a choice. Yeah, this is a. I willingly made this choice, making this decision.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

For a lot of us, it's our decision. Very conscious choice that we're making.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's also, I always say the best way to describe it is it's so case by case, what works for me might not work for you.

[Camilla Woo]

Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Why I did it might not be why you do it, why I doing it, and why you're doing it is not why Samantha watching right now should do it. You know what I mean? Like, it is one of those things that's just so personal and so long as you're honest about that, that's just the truth. Like, for me, it was like I was getting sexualized from 15 and up on and I wanted to be in my bag about it. You Know and like for you, it's like you wanted to do this shit.

[Camilla Woo]

I started with Mr. Beast. I was in college. He was in my college town. I used to.

[Tana Mongeau]

You what?

[Camilla Woo]

What? Yeah, I blew up off of the Mr. Beast video. Squid games.

[Tana Mongeau]

Tell now. Tell now. Tell now.

[Camilla Woo]

This is like 2021. Okay. So I went to ECU, which is where like he's in Greenville. Like that's like known. So I was working for one of North Carolina. Sorry.

[Tana Mongeau]

I know that. I know that.

[Camilla Woo]

So fucking.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I love it there.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

I really love North Carolina.

[Brookie]

Isn't that where all the Nicholas Sparks books are based?

[Tana Mongeau]

And it feels like that when you're there. Like the greenery and the fucking houses on the water. I love the Carolinas.

[Camilla Woo]

Grew up there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Anyway, I went to ECU and I was working at like a bar there and I met a videographer that worked for him. So I started working for him. And then I ended up getting mixed into like personal assistant jobs for him. And he would. Anyways, so.

[Tana Mongeau]

So interesting. What was that?

[Camilla Woo]

Like one day. Great. One thing I will always say, Mr. Beast and his people are some of the most genuine, kind hearted people I've ever met in my entire life.

[Tana Mongeau]

He has, he has always been so nice to me.

[Camilla Woo]

But I saw him recently. He knew exactly, bro. I haven't seen him since like 2021. He saw me. He knew exactly who I was. Like, he remembered. Like he never said.

[Tana Mongeau]

And people don't do that.

[Camilla Woo]

No, let's be so. For real. Yeah, like, no, he knew exactly who I was. He asked how I was doing. Like, also I was friends with Carl and the rest of the crew just from being around. But regardless, we filmed Squid games. It was supposed to be fun. Like what happened was the first couple days of filming Squid games, there was a malfunction. Did you ever watch the Mr. Beast Squid game?

[Tana Mongeau]

I did watch it.

[Camilla Woo]

So you know when someone died, like there's like a little thing like it, like and like it pops or whatever those were called squibs. And so when you would get out, everyone in the room, like all the guards had an iPad and they would click your number and it would just pop and then there would be a shot of it. Move on to the next round, whatever. So there was a massive malfunction and there were 456 people involved. So half the people didn't show up the next day. So they were scrambling, calling people, calling contestants in to be able to fill the spots and start shooting the next day. And then one of the guys that the guy that I was working for was like, yo, yo, do you want to be in a video? Like, bring a couple friends? I was like, bet. Awesome. We showed up the next day, we filmed. I ended up bringing my friend at the time. I don't even wanna talk about that. But that ended very quickly after the Squid Games video. But when the video came out, literally, I'm not joking, 24 hours after the video came out, I started off with 7,000 followers. Regular college student. I woke up the next morning to 145,000 followers in one day.

[Brookie]

Wow.

[Camilla Woo]

I did not know that went so viral on Twitter. Everyone ended up finding my account.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then men, mainly. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

No, it was like a mix. I would say it was like a mix of people. Cause I guess the MrBeast audience is mixed. Mixed. But when it got on Twitter, I guess it was more men.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

So then it translated to TikTok. And so I literally, for a week straight, was just gaining and gaining and gaining. And I'm like, oh, my God. I know I've always wanted to be a personality on the Internet. I did modeling for a really long time before all of this. So that was something I was pursuing. And I was like, oh, my God, this is like my inn. Like, this is like my time to shine. This is my moment.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's the people who jump on that who end up.

[Camilla Woo]

And I fucking failed miserably.

[Tana Mongeau]

How?

[Camilla Woo]

Why miserably? Miserably. Miserably. I did like, I had. I did for, like, the first month was great, right? Cause when you're popping, you know, people wanna work with you. I worked with Noah Beck. Like, I got to meet some really cool people. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I am in my fucking era. Like, what is good, right? Then after it dies down, mind you, small town was in college one second, the next, you work with some of the people that you've watched your entire life.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Right. I didn't know what to do with it. What direction do you take it in? I was literally throwing shit like darts with a blindfold. Nothing was sticking. I felt so demotivated. I wrote, actually, two TV shows. Cause one thing I'm really good at, no one knows about, I'm a really good writer. Ooh. A very good writer. Like, I love the television industry. Like, it's just my thing. Like, I can write. So I wrote.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm sorry for, like, fucking, you know, taking all the things, everything.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I was making YouTube videos. I was. I was making no money. Like, I was asking my parents to, like, Help me fund shit. And like, it was a whole thing. And they were so excited that this was all happening. Like, stop. Don't even. I will cry talking. My parents are the most supportive people ever. They. They were like, no, like, we'll take out a loan. Like, we want to help you with this.

[Brookie]

Guys.

[Camilla Woo]

I did everything and I really was so broke. And I told myself, I will not go back to school. I'm not gonna give myself an option.

[Tana Mongeau]

Determined queen.

[Camilla Woo]

Not because I don't believe in having an education. I just think it wasn't for you. I was in for a business degree originally. Started off with nursing. Cause same. I loved. I like science. Science is like what I'm really, really good at.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, shit. Give me a beaker and I'm crashing out.

[Camilla Woo]

Dude. No. That's my. My fucking chemistry. Like, eat me down. Like, yes. Fucking whore for chemistry.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, maybe that'll be our of collab.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. Like, oh, my God. Like in like a little fucking.

[Brookie]

Only a lab coat. Ooh, amazing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Kind of Jean.

[Camilla Woo]

That's kind of hot.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. No.

[Camilla Woo]

And then like making some potions and shit. Stop.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just lube. I see it now anyway.

[Camilla Woo]

And I just think in general, like, if you're going to college for a business major, it's half those girls that.

[Tana Mongeau]

End up getting it and then wanting to be an influencer with it, you know?

[Camilla Woo]

Yes. Right. So anyway, they're the most supportive. They're the most supportive parents in the fucking world. And I went. I had no money. And I was like, okay. I kind of brought up the idea. I was like, what if I do? And I'm like, but I'll. Cause I was posting fucking bikini pictures and low key being a whore on the Internet anyway, so what the.

[Tana Mongeau]

Preaching to the choir.

[Camilla Woo]

What the fuck? I was posting like all up on Instagram. So what? I was like, might as well make a bag. So as soon as I brought that up. So I'm Latina, I'm from Brazil, and that's like a big no. No. You just don't do that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really?

[Camilla Woo]

You just don't do that? No. Like, my parents are like, Catholic and very, like, religious. And I kind of told them, I was like, well, what if I did this? And like, I was like, what if I was making like 100k a month? They're like, you're never gonna achieve that. And they were very upset about it, obviously. Like, honestly, as a parent should be. I was young and I put it off for a really long time. But once I failed, I failed for like, A straight. We're talking, like, year and a half. They were begging me to go back to school. They were like, just go do community college. Do something. I'm like, no, I refuse. I genuinely ref.

[Tana Mongeau]

Good for you.

[Camilla Woo]

Met this guy, moved to Orlando and was like, you know what? Fuck that shit. I was like, I'm risking it all. One thing about me, like, how I'm going. If I'm going out, I'm going out with a motherfucking gang, okay? Like, if I'm going out, like, everyone's gonna fucking know about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, and high risk, high reward too, right?

[Camilla Woo]

So I was like, you know what? My boyfriend at the time didn't care that I was gonna start. And I was like, fuck this shit. Like, I'm gonna do it. I did it. And my parents were like, they were not cool with it. I'm very, very transparent. They were like, okay, well, if you're gonna do this, you're 100% supporting yourself financially. Period.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mm.

[Camilla Woo]

That's it. And I was like, all right, fuck it. I'll make it work. Was working three jobs. I actually worked at a real estate development company. And you're like, behind the scenes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I did.

[Camilla Woo]

I worked in your mortgage, daddy. Yeah. Like, I was working for a real estate development. I was working at a bar in Orlando, and I was doing same time.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're a hustler, and I love that about you. I do.

[Camilla Woo]

Bitch. This is real tea. I had to leave the real estate job because the head of the company, I actually signed a legal document that I can't say the company's name or him.

[Tana Mongeau]

Here we are.

[Brookie]

But did he subscribe?

[Camilla Woo]

He sexually, like, oh, like, what's it like? He did not assault me. It was, like, harassment. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've been learning the difference between that these days as well.

[Camilla Woo]

You have to very clearly. He. I was. Yeah. He came in and told a story about his sex life to me, and it was very off. They didn't have hr. They had hr, but, like, it wasn't, like, really established. So he wrote me a really good settlement check. I went to Portugal with it, came back, changed my fucking life. I was fucking, you know, doubling down on only.

[Tana Mongeau]

So then how long were you doing of solo? Like, how did the lop house come about?

[Camilla Woo]

Right. I was doing of solo for, like, this is going on year three. So I was doing it for, like, two years with this guy I met in la. When I came the first time, he was the one kind of like, you should start. I don't know. I was so against it for so long. You can find clips of me on the Internet that say, I would never.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, bitch.

[Camilla Woo]

I did. And I'm not lying. Yeah, so true. Anyway, I did it for, like, two years, and then I really doubled down, and then I was like, oh. It actually wasn't brought up by me. A lot of people think that I'm like, I run the Bobhouse. Like, no, babe.

[Brookie]

Like, I thought that everyone.

[Camilla Woo]

I don't know why you just give.

[Brookie]

I run the mob house. Such a big personality.

[Camilla Woo]

I think that's what it is. A lot of the girls are very.

[Tana Mongeau]

Cause Sophie's kind of quiet, right?

[Camilla Woo]

She is. She's very quiet. She's very, like, to herself. Like, she's such a sweet soul, to be honest with you. She's very. She's funny, but she's, like, quirky and like. But that's almost all the girls.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but you need this to be right.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I'm like the. Like, I'm a. Like, I give. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

So.

[Camilla Woo]

Wow. I can't believe that just was used right now. That's front row iconic.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're. It was my favorite time. I missed it.

[Camilla Woo]

The best era ever. So anyway, it's literally like a group of. It's like a group decision. Like, we don't. There's no, like, decisions being made that are made by one person. Like, it's like, hey, should we do this?

[Tana Mongeau]

Are you guys. Were you guys all just friends or, like, Internet friends? Or, like. Cause here's what I think. I really do. I think in a successful. Because it doesn't feel. I see these all the time in LA, right? Where they get the fucking McMansion and then some guy in a fucking. You know what I mean? Burlington Coat Factory suit gets fucking six girls together, and then everyone looks like they're being held at gunpoint, and I'm so not for it. And, like, it feels like it's. You guys feel like you are so in control of it, which I think is so important.

[Camilla Woo]

We really are. We really are. I think it was.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's authentic.

[Camilla Woo]

We didn't think it was gonna be that big. We're like, yeah, we just fucking. Let's just fucking do something. Let's call it the Bop House.

[Tana Mongeau]

We're making this money. Let's get a house, right?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, it was kind of just like, yo, like, let's just fuck around. Let's do this bobhouse thing. We're called Bops. Like, let's do a bop house house.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you think about all the Other houses too. Just all the people being so inspired. Or is it like, you know, the auto.

[Camilla Woo]

That's like, no one is better than the original. That's how I live my life.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, because even just like the Hype House, like, then you'd see all the ones after, like, all the. The fight house.

[Camilla Woo]

You know, it came after the Hype House. There's no other house.

[Tana Mongeau]

There was. What was it like Maddie Monroe and them had like, not a content.

[Brookie]

Yeah, not a content house. They had.

[Tana Mongeau]

But no one's better than the original. It just because it's people trying to.

[Brookie]

When they always end in, like, flames.

[Camilla Woo]

The hype house and like these things, right? Like, you're like, they're ran by like a guy. And this, that and the third. And I think that a lot of the times there's so many. There's so many hands in the pot, right? And I think that that's the biggest issue is we all make our own money. That's it. Like, we all make our own individual money. And no one's controlling us to do anything. So it's kind of just like we do what we do because we all have the money to fund it ourselves. We don't need, like these brand deals. Like, yes, obviously it helps, but it helps.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's not.

[Camilla Woo]

Our main focus is not driving factor. No.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

No. And that's what genuinely allows us to have fun. I think that's the biggest difference is we're all not depending on monster or Celsius.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's the message to girls out there. Because now I'm sure too, so many agencies are trying to create what you guys have.

[Camilla Woo]

And Royal. Suck my dick. Exactly.

[Tana Mongeau]

And are probably reaching out to these girls. Like, this is gonna be just like the Bop House. And it's like, no, they're gonna own you.

[Camilla Woo]

Not to mention. And every single pitch is, let's start beef at the Bobhouse.

[Brookie]

I would be terrified. Just. You're so good at articulating your words. I would be so afraid to have beef.

[Camilla Woo]

And one thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. Reading the Alabama to filth. I actually know.

[Brookie]

It's so good. That's where I found you. I just like one video. I was like, mesmerized. Even now I'm watching you talk. I'm like, wow.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, that was awesome. And you remind me so much of me before. I had a lot of fear incited in me and trauma and even just on the phone when we were talking, I was like, never lose this. This fire and this authenticity and this. Cause I'm sure. And I'm sure you feel it right now though, people are trying to take that from you. The second that they see it, they wanna sue you, they wanna silence you, beef with you. They wanna.

[Camilla Woo]

And I think that's kind of like, that's low key, the fun part. I'm like, okay, if this is how you're taking this and you're trying to silence me, I'm gonna let people know you're trying to silence me. I'm not gonna get a cease and desist and say.

[Tana Mongeau]

Say you're not gonna cease or desist.

[Camilla Woo]

No, I'm gonna say a hoe's gonna stop talking because a bitch got a cease and desist and that's that. I'll never push it. I will be honest. I'll never push it because my I, I want. Honestly, I'm glad I'm gonna say this. I want everyone to know, like, I'm not this problematic human being. Just fuck with me and I'll fuck back with you. Like, I'm not going to start. I'm not. I'll never attack anyone, ever. That's just not my. That's not me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, that's just how the world is too. They see an outspoken woman and they immediately want to put her in this. Even like, Bhad Bhabie dealt with that so much.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, and that' she's been the same since fucking ever. Obviously she's grown and she's matured and you know, obviously people grow and people mature. But this, like, she's so fucking authentically herself. And when she does something, she fucking stands on it, on her mistakes, everything she's ever done, she stood on it. Even if she's wrong, she was like, I did that. And that's that. And let's move on. And that's something that I.

[Tana Mongeau]

And the world will try to take that from you as a woman so hard.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, you know, I agree.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm literally getting chills, like, thinking about it. So I'm putting this on.

[Camilla Woo]

And that's one of the things I told you on the phone. I was like, you are so resilient. You've been through so much. And that's so admirable because you know how many people wouldn't have continued? Do you know how many people would have given up? Do you know how many people would have just sat there and taken that and changed so many things about themselves that are so beautiful? Like, I think a lot of the times people just run away to stand.

[Tana Mongeau]

In the face of the fire and say this is who I am. And I'm willing to fall and get back up. Up is. It is admirable. And it's hard.

[Camilla Woo]

So admirable. And it's like so many people can't do that because they're not confident enough in themselves or they haven't found peace within, you know. So I think that that's the thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like, I up, but I know who I am and I'm willing to just like, put that all out there. Like, okay, here's me up. And it made me this.

[Camilla Woo]

I am up.

[Tana Mongeau]

It also helped having nothing to lose, I will say, you know, like, I'm all in with this.

[Camilla Woo]

Exactly. And I think that that's. That's the difference too, is like, when people start and. And they feel like they have to be perfect, that's where you're gonna up the most. Like when you try to play this Persona that you're not, or authenticity, when you try this role that you're not, you're gonna fuck up more because that's not what comes naturally to you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And when your intentions. I think a lot of people, you have to, like, love this shit. You have to. And I can tell that you are so passionate about showing who you are and sharing it with the world and the way that that inspires some people.

[Camilla Woo]

Right.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think a lot of people start social media and all of these things with different intentions. And then when the. When you face the fire, you're going to back down because your intentions were just money or your intentions were just this. You know what I mean?

[Camilla Woo]

I say this a lot online, especially in, like I said in the 30 second to a minute TikTok video. It's an exaggerated version of myself, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's not all of you.

[Camilla Woo]

It's not all of me. It's one piece of me that you see for 60 seconds and that's all you get. And then you make an opinion on that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Love to hold on to that. You know what I mean? Like, I will fore. Be an idiot to so many people as hard as I try to show the smart sides of myself. And like, it can't. I don't know, you can't just harp on that. It's like, so what if people never fucking know who I fully am? I'm still gonna try. I'm still gonna try.

[Camilla Woo]

And you're not gonna do it for everyone else. You're gonna do it for yourself. And that's the difference. Do it for you, not for any. What the hell?

[Brookie]

Like, I feel like I'm at Church right now, right?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, preach. Come on, church. So I really do. I have a lot of passion for it. I have a lot of passion just for entertaining.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I. I can tell. And I just love it. I love people. It's. And I can just. I just. I'm serious. I feel like you're going to have, like, we're gonna look back at this podcast almost and be like, oh, my God. Like, remember that. Like, you're gonna have the craziest because you're not backing down. And the world just needs more women like that. And it's just. You're everything. You are a powerhouse.

[Camilla Woo]

Loki irritates me. Is that. And the second there's any. Like, someone hands me my flowers, like, the second you say that right, there's always that comment that's like, why would you ever. Why would she ever be an icon if she doesn't immediately. Of course, that is the first thing. Of course. Everyone says, like, why do these girls idolize her? Why do these girls look up to her when, like, this is not someone to look up to?

[Tana Mongeau]

Which is. And I've always struggled with this so hard, too, because it's like. But it's like, at least for me, I mean, it's like they were gonna sexualize either way.

[Camilla Woo]

Why can't it just be because I wanted to do.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Why is that such a hard concept to understand? I said, hey, I just want to pop it. Like, and that's okay. If that makes me feel good, that makes me feel good about myself.

[Tana Mongeau]

100 and it's fun. It's. I. Again, this is not everyone's scenario. I'm not glamorizing it. But you. There is something fun about, like, reclaiming a power that you not necessarily are supposed to have societally. Right. And feeling hot and being young and doing it with your girls. Like, some of my favorite memories in the world are like, all me, my friends, having a wine night and then popping our pussies.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like. Like, and period.

[Camilla Woo]

And you're gonna, like, do it gracefully, amazingly, and make a bag. Like, what the fuck is the. Like, for me, I just don't. Like, again, like, I just don't give a fuck.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I like that you're going multifaceted with it, too, and just doing all the things that you want to do. I want to know, like, what's up your sleeve? You're just. You're a bitch with something up your sleeve. Like, what's coming? What are you excited about?

[Camilla Woo]

So, well, so as you know, a bitch talks shit and period. I will stay talking shit. I was saying I love it, but I kind of wanted to. I want to veer into more. Something more positive and fun, like something.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I like that too. That you're not like, oh my God. Now that people think I'm a hater, I just have to be the hater.

[Camilla Woo]

No. Hell no.

[Brookie]

Like.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I love.

[Tana Mongeau]

Haters need love too. We are.

[Brookie]

People think you're the hater, though. I don't, Like, I don't see anything, any of that. And think like, oh my God, she's. I feel like you're just like, you stick up for yourself.

[Camilla Woo]

Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's cuz you get it, you know, Right? Like that whole side of the Internet that's just like, oh, it's a woman yelling. She's an evil. You know, and it's like, like the real people. Real. Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

And Tik Tok, they're.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're different planets.

[Camilla Woo]

Holy. Like, I'll feel. I'll feel like a badass. I'm like going through my tick tock comments on like, I served. And Instagram's like, you disgusting piece of.

[Tana Mongeau]

You should be in the kitchen sandwich. I'm like, reels humbled this out of us. Like, oh my God, the comments on canceled on reels is so brutal.

[Brookie]

It's like these women be saying like, literally the most insightful thing of all time in the comments will always be like, get her off of here.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, make podcasting a little bit more expensive.

[Camilla Woo]

I E. Six feet under. I'm like, I'm reading that. I'm like. I'm like, noted. Nice. I'm like, double tap that one. That one's good. I'm like, that one made me laugh. That one's a good one. That is never had this insecurity. I'll change that about myself.

[Brookie]

Yeah, that's how I found out I had a big forehead.

[Tana Mongeau]

I was like, jesus, oh my God. I didn't even know. I posted a tik tok the other day. And the very first comment I'm talking, this person got there in three seconds to say this was what episode of Botched is this? And I was like, you know what?

[Camilla Woo]

Low key. That's me. I'm like, I just like when they're like it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. Like, I do. I love, love a funny hate comment. Like a good one where I'm like, you know what? Touche. Like, I'm gonna put that in the bank.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, look, I'll pin it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, that was funny, Loki.

[Camilla Woo]

I'll pin that one. And I'll give a little haha in the comment, you know?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, like, you know, because that's all they want. It's like, you.

[Camilla Woo]

Are you a Nicki fan? Like, that's like my favorite. I'm like, are you a Nicki fan? You love me. Say that, stupid.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm like, of course I love Nicki minaj. Hello. I'm 40. I have to kill myself.

[Brookie]

I missed it too.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I'm gonna watch that back in the edit.

[Camilla Woo]

Like an old TikTok audio.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, and I'm not.

[Camilla Woo]

That was so Gen Z of me.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm gonna watch that back in the edit.

[Brookie]

I'm a millennial. She's a Gen Z.

[Tana Mongeau]

Am I?

[Brookie]

Yeah. I really am millennial.

[Tana Mongeau]

I laughed at the most, like, Facebook mom meme the other day. I was in tears laughing, and then I just sat silent in the car for 30. I was like, oh, my God.

[Brookie]

I tell myself I'm doing it ironically. Like, I'm laughing at them, but I'm laughing with them.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I was just la. It was like, me, when the flight attendant offers me a snack and, like, a dolphin. And I was like, huh. Aha. This is so funny. And I, like, actually was like, oh, my God.

[Camilla Woo]

No, same. Because, like, I will cry laughing. Like, I'm talking, like, hyperventilate over, like, dogs and cats.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, me too.

[Brookie]

Or like, why is it doing that?

[Camilla Woo]

Yes. Or like, the one with the microwave trend right now where, like, they put their dog. I'm crying.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, tell the trend what happens.

[Camilla Woo]

The microwave trend where they're, like, they put a picture of the dog and AI spins it around. Stop playing with me. Thank you. Thank you so much. No, you're lying. I know what it is. No, you're lying.

[Tana Mongeau]

Don't do this to me, dog. We gotta look it up. Hold on. Oh, Annelise got it.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm screaming.

[Brookie]

Wait, how do I. How do I do that to Murph?

[Tana Mongeau]

You have to do that to Murphy. Wait, I feel like Mouse is just.

[Brookie]

Doing that already doing that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, Mouse is just at home right now doing that. Anyways.

[Camilla Woo]

No, please stop.

[Tana Mongeau]

Why do I want that of me? Me? Like, I want to be spinning around. Can you do it of me?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I'm screaming, crying, throwing up. Please.

[Brookie]

Just like that, by the way.

[Camilla Woo]

No, I'm 95 years old, sitting on my couch, screaming, like. Like, grabbing my Julia, being like, no, look. No, look. No, look. Like, I'm.

[Tana Mongeau]

Anyways, no, it's okay. I'm embracing it. Listen, if I laugh at a millennial joke, it is. Is what it is, you know, and that's okay.

[Brookie]

But you were. You were saying you wanted to do something more positive, and we got so far off track.

[Camilla Woo]

Okay, okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

But I love when we adhd. And Kiki too.

[Camilla Woo]

No, I just didn't want her to forget. So anyways, I'm trying to be so positive and, like, I love giving gifts. Like, I feel like that's one of like, my privileges is like, it's like, please open it. Like, I'm so excited.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's something with of too because it's like, I just robbed this man for this money, so how can I, like, give back to other people? I'm the same way, you guys.

[Camilla Woo]

My parents for the expensive at me. Kidding. But I was like, okay, I'm gonna do a giveaway and I'm gonna sell merch. So I'm like, in the works of like, I want to give away a car. I'll have like, I have like 2 MacBooks, 3 iPhones. Make David Dobrik great again, right? Great era. Yeah, phenomenal.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, so great in theory. And now we just need, like, a hot woman doing it, you know what I mean?

[Camilla Woo]

In a bikini or something.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And with your Mr. Beast ties, you could be the garbage. And that's kind of iconic. Yeah, I see it now. The red bows. You're in a red bikini.

[Camilla Woo]

Right? And I'm like, brand new car. And I'm like, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like, we need. We need a woman doing that. So I thought it was me for a second and then I just.

[Brookie]

Oh, she gave me a car. I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Camilla Woo]

But I gave you a car.

[Tana Mongeau]

I gave her a car.

[Camilla Woo]

What car?

[Brookie]

A Bronco. Bright green Bronco. It's my favorite thing in the world. And she bought Kyla a car.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, Ashley.

[Tana Mongeau]

A car.

[Brookie]

Car. Three cars.

[Camilla Woo]

You get a car. You get a car. You get a car.

[Brookie]

But she's over here. Like, girls need to be giving out cars. And I'm. And I'm sitting here like, yeah, well, here's the thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

With one of those cars. It ended up like, way later in life. And like, the car, I fully paid it off and like the whole thing. And then she ended up getting hit or like car crash or whatever. And it somehow ended up up my credit while I'm buying a house. It like actually up my mortgage and my. And it. And then I was like, I'm not the car girl anymore.

[Brookie]

I was done just in time for me to get one.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you. You were the final boss.

[Camilla Woo]

You Got your.

[Tana Mongeau]

You are the final car. And now we're.

[Camilla Woo]

Hey, hey, wait. Low key. Bought my dad a car, bought my mom a car, bought myself a car.

[Tana Mongeau]

So you're already the car girl.

[Camilla Woo]

Low key. My mom's like, you guys are slaying.

[Brookie]

I just can't get over you walking in here. She says, I'm gonna do a small little giveaway. I'm gonna give away a car. I go, small little giveaway.

[Tana Mongeau]

I love that to you. Like, it's like, no.

[Camilla Woo]

She's gonna be like, what I wanna do, right? Like, if I'm thinking, like, three years ahead. Like, I. If I. If I have. Like, if you ask, like, what's, like, a vision that you have that keeps you motivated, right? It would be, I want to do a YouTube video or somehow integrate someone's personal story that I really resonated with and change their life. Like, I want to buy someone a home and change someone's life. Like, that is what would make me. Like, that would make me.

[Tana Mongeau]

You're gonna do it.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm so happy. Like a car. Yes, I understand that that does change someone's life. Like, to be able to, you know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Get around and get around and get a job.

[Camilla Woo]

And I know that that helps a lot. Even if they have nowhere to live. Like, at least you got, you know, like, a car or something. But I think with like. Like, I want to get so personal with it. Like, Mr. Beast changes the world in masses, right? Like, no one does.

[Tana Mongeau]

What does it mean?

[Camilla Woo]

And you don't see the personal story in between each person. He fixes 100 people. You don't know these people's stories, which is incredible, what he does. But, like, for me, I want to do, like, a highlight and, like, tell a story.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you're such an interviewer. You want to know people's story.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, I want to know their story, their truth. Truth. Like, I want them to feel like you're about to be seen.

[Tana Mongeau]

Mrs. Beauty and the Beast.

[Camilla Woo]

Yes. Like, wait, can you write that down?

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, can I have 10%? And I also think, truly, like, a lot of people do that. Even when I was doing it. Like, the views are nice, you know, Yours was a little more, like, I wanted to do that, but, like, Kyla's. I was like, listen, I'm Dobrik. I was living at his house. Like, I fully. And I think that we haven't had someone doing it who really wants to know the stories yet.

[Camilla Woo]

And, like, with digs like that, I'm also really big in music. Not in music. Like, I don't do music, but, like, I think music is the one thing that brings people together. And so making people feel an emotion through a video is something that, like, is incredible. Like, I want you. Literally. Yeah. You wake up and you know the tiktoks where you're like, oh, my God, not me. Waking up crying about a TikTok, like, that made you feel something. Like, that's what I want to do. Like, I want to make someone, like, watching. Yes. My life, I live it. It's like, yeah, I portray it to be glamorous and I portray this thing, but, like, I see the other side of it. Like, I see the people that don't get to live that. And I know I'm part of the one person. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I do aware. I am so aware. And I do think about the people that I can help. And I think that's just a part of who I've always been. I've always. Which is also a blessing and a curse. Put someone else before me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, always.

[Camilla Woo]

But I love that someone else's emotions, someone else's financial problems, like, I will always take them as my own because I'm like, I know. I always got me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Forever and always. I knew.

[Tana Mongeau]

I feel you.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like, I always have myself. But, like, seeing them thrive, like, bro, that's the one thing I love about the Bop House. We love watching everyone succeed.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's hard too, to find other people like that. Like, that's why a lot of those houses fail, even.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Brookie]

I feel like in situations like that, yeah, it can be easy to get, like, jealous of other people. Like, who's doing better?

[Camilla Woo]

Obviously. You put eight girls in a fucking house. There are issues and there are things, but, like, at the end of the day, we each have our own individual businesses and we want each of us to thrive.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

That's the God honest truth.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's so important, dude. And I'm so excited to, like, meet.

[Camilla Woo]

Everyone you're going to. I'm telling you, like, you're going to love it.

[Brookie]

I can't wait to see everything.

[Camilla Woo]

You need to come. You're just not attending the party.

[Tana Mongeau]

I will.

[Brookie]

I'm so afraid of Miami. Me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I discard her, too. And I told you how bad I was in Miami on the phone a little bit, you know, and I.

[Brookie]

She said it almost ended our friendship.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, really, you can talk. Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Brookie]

No, it was just like, it was a bad time for everybody. Like, it was. There was A lot of issues. Like, much bigger than us.

[Camilla Woo]

Go ahead.

[Brookie]

She was with.

[Camilla Woo]

Talk about it.

[Brookie]

She was with her ex at the time. And I. I went with just them, too. Okay. So we stayed in a room, like, the three of us, two beds. Like, I had one bed and they had the other.

[Camilla Woo]

Right.

[Brookie]

Horrible. Worst idea I've personally ever had.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then just like, the worst. Like, now if it was like, me and Mokoa, like, we would, like, put on a rom com, like, and for.

[Brookie]

The first couple days it was fine, but, like, they had the biggest blowout fight I've probably ever. Like, it was giving, like, my mom and dad. I was so. I couldn't even believe what was happening. And I had a flight the next morning. It was like, a whole thing. And I was screaming at them. They're screaming at each other like, we're about to get kicked out of the hotel. I missed my flight. It was a whole thing. I told myself in that moment, I never was gonna go back.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think your flight was in, like, six hours. And she just left to the airport.

[Brookie]

It was like my flight was at like 7am and I was like, please let me go to sleep. Like, we've been out for 24 hours straight. Like, I will do anything to just go to sleep. I have a middle seat. The next day, I'm like, and the flight.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, my God, to la?

[Brookie]

Yes. And I'm like, hours, Let me go to sleep. And I finally got so angry that I went to the airport and sat there for six hours and then got on a middle seat all the way home for six hours. I had slept in 24.

[Camilla Woo]

We would have never.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. 100%. 100. I. It's so funny. We don't talk about that, like, enough. Because even just with friends, I see it now. And I'm not placing blame off of me because obviously, like, I did that, but I'm saying, like, how hard it is to be friends with someone in a toxic relationship. Yeah, because you just.

[Camilla Woo]

So funny. Because me and Julia, everyone knows, like, our friendship is. We're going on, like, 10 years. Like, that is my soulmate. Like, I stop, I'll cry. But I literally love her so much. And, like, we've had. She has the worst taste in men. Love you, girl, but what the fuck?

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my sweet Brookie hair dealt for so long.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm talking to you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, that's true. I guess we balance each other out with that for a while.

[Camilla Woo]

And she's hated my exes and things like that. But, like, it got to a point where, like, there was this one time we were in downtown, and, like, I knew I hated this boyfriend of hers. They would go back. It's the back and forth shit that you fucking hate. It's so. You see her crying, you see how much he's done to her. Next thing you know, she's like, oh, wait, but, like, I low key love him.

[Brookie]

And you're like, what the fuck?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Like, he's just. He's all the same.

[Brookie]

Like, on the way to the airport with us, all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's crazy.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you just say the most lethal.

[Camilla Woo]

Diabolical shit six hours ago.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I did that with him for a very, very long time.

[Camilla Woo]

But these days where, like, in that moment, we were out or whatever, and I saw him, he said some slick shit to her and I just lunged at him. I did. I did. I took off my heel and I just absolutely lunged at him. And I looked at her and I was like, I swear to fucking. Like, I swear to like, I can't do this anymore. And it did end our friendship for a year and a half. And that's like, we didn't speak for a year. And the only thing that brought me to. Cause I had to rekindle it. Cause I'm like, the love I have for her is unmatched. When you're in a toxic relationship. Like, it's impossible to just not.

[Tana Mongeau]

You walk around with the rain cloud.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, it's just not you. Like, she wasn't herself. Like, even me. Like, when I was in toxic relationships. Like, she understood. She knew it wasn't me. And it's almost like, as. As that friend, you have to sit there and take it and take the emotions and almost hurt with her while she hurts until she's done.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you do.

[Brookie]

And, like, I. I had such a hard time with that because I was so. Like, I wasn't understanding to a lot of my friends, like, in horrible situations like that, because I had never gone through it myself.

[Camilla Woo]

Exactly.

[Brookie]

So once I had a situation like that, I felt so much guilt because I was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe how I handled this with you, Bibi, everybody. Because I was like, I should have been there for them. And so now I feel way differently about it. But when you're in it, you cannot.

[Camilla Woo]

See clearly at all. No. Like, it's literally like, be all, end.

[Tana Mongeau]

All, and you're heartbroken. Every other week I say this.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like, those heartbreaks from those toxic relationships, it's like, it's not like, oh, you're sad. Like, it. You. Your body has a physical reaction, like a drug withdrawal. So traumatic it literally feels like. Like. Like chest pain. You're dizzy, you can't sleep, you can't eat. Like, your body.

[Brookie]

It's literally physical. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Even just what it's got to do to you psychologically to normalize. Like, sobbing like that all the time. Like, you know what I mean?

[Brookie]

Like, just being so hysterical and. Yeah, no, it's. It's really horrible, but I wouldn't wish it upon my worst.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's so crazy because it's the same thing, like a drug addiction. It's like your friends can try to tell you all they want, but it's like you decide to decide to get sober, whether it's off this man or it's off this thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's nothing you can do. And it's so. And then you just want to go back and shake yourself, you know?

[Camilla Woo]

And then also, like, that causes trauma between the friendship, obviously.

[Tana Mongeau]

So I'm dealing with that right now with a friend of mine, but not like a best friend, but like a close friend where I'm just like, I have to let her cook.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, and she. She's gonna see that.

[Camilla Woo]

Be there for her when she comes back. And I think when I see her pursuing someone or like, when she. When I started, you know, dating and things like that, we were kind of just like, you know, it's kind of like we're on the edge of our seat. Like, okay, how do we approach this? Like, that's literally us, man. Like, I bet when you started dating Mokoa.

[Tana Mongeau]

Correct.

[Camilla Woo]

I don't want to mispronounce his name.

[Tana Mongeau]

Everyone's like, what do you mean you're in love?

[Camilla Woo]

He's. He seems fucking amazing. He seems like you're like the fire and he's the water, and it just mellows. That's how it comes across. And I think that people like us, we need that. We need that. We need to be able to go on a fucking rant. And he's like, no, totally get you. And then his energy makes you kind of, like, be able to rationalize and be logical about it, which is, I would always date men. That was like fire and fire, and it's like fucking explosion.

[Brookie]

We were just literally saying that before you got here. But just like, I needed. I always thought I had to have a big, big personality, and I feel like that's not true. I love to have somebody who's just like, okay, okay. I'll be like, I hate when you do that.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like, what the are you doing? And they're like, they're like, no, yeah, totally. See why you never happened. And I feel like a dick.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God. I have that all the time.

[Camilla Woo]

The amount of times I've cried because of the things I've done in a sense of like. Cuz no one really knows but like I'm in a fully like relationship and like have been for like two and a half years, three years.

[Brookie]

I didn't know that.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's a marketing genius. She said not today.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, I mean I love him. Like, I'll never deny my boyfriend ever. But it's just not something that I publicize just because.

[Tana Mongeau]

Good for you.

[Camilla Woo]

That's my fucking man. What the fuck you gotta be looking at my man for the. Anyways, but like we'll get into arguments and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like da da da. Like in his fucking face. And he's like, yeah, no, like, I see. I understand his attitude completely. Like, I'm crying not because of what he said, because of. I'm fucking nuts.

[Tana Mongeau]

No.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh my God, I'm fucking lunatic. I'm such a bitch. And I'm sitting in my head. I'm like, I'm like, he's gonna. I deserve him. Like he is going to leave me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Girl. I. I did something in Paris to mokoa like that I. Whenever I think about it, even to this day, I want to go back just to jump off the tip of the Eiffel Tower. Like it's. Oh my God, I can't.

[Brookie]

He's so understanding.

[Tana Mongeau]

He is. And it's so far gone to him. But even if I, like, even when I just think about us in Paris, I'm like, oh my God. I actually have to lay on the 405. Like it's. And it's crazy, untraining, toxic, girl, you know? Like it's. I notice it every day, even when. Cause we're kind of long distance. So like when he leaves, I'll notice myself like reverting to those anxious behaviors which lead to me lashing out. And then it's like trying to start.

[Camilla Woo]

An argument and yeah, 100% yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then it's like, wait, I'm not mad at you. I just miss you. Like, and I'm.

[Camilla Woo]

The one thing that changed my like demeanor in the relationship is being embarrassed of my own actions.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God. And I've never put that into words.

[Camilla Woo]

Like that Embarrassed of my own actions has changed me as a human being. Like, the way I would speak to people, the way I would. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm not a. I'm not. Not self aware. Like, I know. Like, he has looked at me dead in the face. And he'll be like, yeah, when you're done yelling, we can have a conversation. He'll just walk away. It's nothing. It's nothing personal.

[Brookie]

He's like, so powerful.

[Camilla Woo]

He's like. When you're. He'll sit there like you're like this. You'll be. I'm screaming at the top of my lungs. And he'll go, yeah. No, when you're done, he's like, I get it. I understand you're upset. When you're done, we can have a conversation. I'm gonna go eat my filet.

[Brookie]

I'm so awful. I'd be like, what do you mean?

[Camilla Woo]

No, you don't know. Yeah. And I'll sit there and I'm like. And I'm like twitching and I'm like, all right. And I'm still. Don't get me wrong, I'm pissed off for like five hours after, but I will. And he doesn't treat me differently in those hours. It's not like a. He's gonna ignore me. Hey, do you want food? Or, hey, do you want this or you want.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's literally, Makoa, are you hungry?

[Camilla Woo]

And I'm mad at what? What am I mad at? So then I come around, and then I come, obviously crying, and I'm like, so, like, you still love me or what?

[Brookie]

No, I'm like, oh, no.

[Tana Mongeau]

Cool.

[Camilla Woo]

So, like, you still, like, do you still want. You still love me? Right?

[Tana Mongeau]

And then for three days. For three days, it's literally that.

[Camilla Woo]

No, for sure. It's toxic relationships.

[Tana Mongeau]

You up, up so bad. But it is. I think we talk about this a lot now too. For so long, I was in such denial of the cool down period. Right. Even Amari gets on me about this. Like, if Amari and I are fighting, it's like, I want to hash it now. And as I've gotten older, I have realized the cool down period will save your life.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm so bad at it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too.

[Camilla Woo]

With friends.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too. I'm just so bad at it.

[Brookie]

We have different. We have different feelings on that. Like, I think you're a. Like, solve it in this moment.

[Camilla Woo]

That's how I am.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm having to understand more and more.

[Brookie]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm not gonna lie. I'm still bad at it. Like, Julia, it's. This is so crazy because this seems like the dynamic of me and Julia. Like, she's very, like, bubbly and just like a. Just. She's so cute, and she's not confrontational. And she's very, like, calm. She's very calm and, like, you're like me. You're like, well, fuck that bitch. Fuck this bitch. Da, da, da.

[Brookie]

You're misunderstanding the dynamic.

[Camilla Woo]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

We're both.

[Brookie]

No.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, my God. It seems like you're so, like.

[Brookie]

No, I'm. I'm actually.

[Camilla Woo]

It's.

[Brookie]

Yeah. No, I'm very reactive. Well, I just get. I'm super hyper emotional, and I get very, very, like, upset over things, like, probably irrationally. And so. But that is an issue that I have with pretty much everyone.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but we've worked it out a lot. I think you've grown a lot in that sense. Like, you're much better at saying things, not saying things you don't mean now.

[Brookie]

Yeah, I'm way more aware of it now. Like, now I know that there's, like a bigger. A root. Like, root of the issue, but. Hello.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God.

[Camilla Woo]

Queen.

[Tana Mongeau]

Hi, my queen.

[Camilla Woo]

Is that.

[Tana Mongeau]

I just watched the cutest video of them. It was you, right? We're talking about you, where you came home with the Birkin, right?

[Camilla Woo]

Was this you? No, that was Sophie. Sophie did the videos.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sophie came home. Hermes Bop, house queen. She comes home with a Birkin, and she's showing her, and she's going, what is this? Why would you spend.

[Camilla Woo]

She's like, I don't understand why you'd spend.

[Tana Mongeau]

No. And it was. It was just the cutest video absolutely ever. Oh, I love you. It was the cutest, sweetest. That video was everything.

[Camilla Woo]

But. Yeah. Like, if we were to fight, like, it's very. Like, I'm like, no, we're solving this now. And she's like, I just don't get why you're yelling. I'm like, what do you mean?

[Brookie]

I just. It's really hard. Like, once I feel a certain way for me to, like, unfeel it. Yeah, it's really hard. And I feel like. I don't know. The very common misconception is that I'm. I'm calm and really. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

And, like, I got.

[Brookie]

I hate. I hate to even admit, but it's true. I'm very. I just get so upset.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm not.

[Brookie]

I'm not so much petty as I am. Just, like, I. Everything is. The sky is falling and everything is. My emotions are Zero. So much bigger than they actually are. Always like, I. Like something so, like, minuscule can turn into, like. Like, I can't believe they would do this to me. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Really big summer blowout. Yeah.

[Brookie]

But it's just the way, like, everything is perceived to me. It's like, oh, my God, like, everyone hates me. The world is against me. Like, I don't know why.

[Tana Mongeau]

And we had to work on that a lot, too, where. You know what I mean? Like, I had to. In those moments, it'd be like, I love you. You know what I mean? Like, I. And I know your brain is telling you that. I don't.

[Brookie]

We're just so different in the way that we handle conflict. And that's been like. That has been the conflict.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God. First, just for so long.

[Brookie]

I'm a.

[Camilla Woo]

Let's the fuck hash it out. Like, I'm a. Let's hash it out. Because I hate that feeling of having to wait to have that conversation. Because for me, the cooldown period is like. I still feel it. It's like, even if I'm not as dormant, it's just like, when we start talking about it, I'm going to still wanna blow up. And I don't know how to articulate it. I mean, obviously, I've gotten better. I'm not gonna scream, but I'm very. I'll say it very passionately. And I think that that can cause people to shut down.

[Brookie]

I just have to be careful about that because if I hash it out in the moment, I'm gonna say so many things. I don't mean it's gonna be way bigger than it should be because of how emotional I am about it. So it's like, I need the refractory period just to be. Just to, like, come to my senses and, like, see it for what it was rather than what I saw, what.

[Camilla Woo]

Your brain is making it out to be.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Yeah. And I. Even. You taught me so much about. Because I am.

[Brookie]

Give her a second.

[Tana Mongeau]

I am innately very much like, let's talk it out right now. Like, I guess when I say the cool down period helped me, that's for me, when I'm hot and angry. But even with our relationship, like, we had to learn. I had to really learn. Like, no, we're gonna revisit this in a day and we're gonna. Yeah.

[Brookie]

Because by then, I will always probably come and be like, I'm so sorry. I don't. I. I said this because I felt this. And I was.

[Camilla Woo]

You know, a lot of people Way.

[Brookie]

Out of my mind.

[Camilla Woo]

A lot of people cannot say no.

[Brookie]

But I don't always do it.

[Camilla Woo]

A lot of people keep getting wrong when they're wrong so much.

[Brookie]

I'm getting better.

[Tana Mongeau]

I really do.

[Camilla Woo]

You know self growth. Yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Amazing. I love that. It is. It really is. So cutie. I can't wait to go to 11 with you. You should come.

[Brookie]

Honestly, I would come.

[Camilla Woo]

Listen, I'm very honest. I have lived in Miami going on three years now. I don't go out. I have not been to the beach. I'm telling you, like, the only reason my ass is at Liv is cause of Julia's fucking ass. And she's like, no, we need a girls night. We need a girls night. Takes me to fucking live. I spent 10 grand. So I'm like, I hate going out. I don't like the culture of going out.

[Tana Mongeau]

Miami, Miami is promoters expensive.

[Camilla Woo]

Promoters suck.

[Tana Mongeau]

Miami's the most expensive misogynist.

[Brookie]

I love the daytime of it all. I love to be on a boat.

[Camilla Woo]

I love to be at the beach.

[Tana Mongeau]

Now that I'm sober, I almost need a Miami tour guide that will show me the light. Right. Like I need you to show me the things in Miami make me slip.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, yes, Queen, please. I'll keep you on, not off edge. I'll keep you on edge. Yeah, we're gonna move into like a more wholesome Miami vibe.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, and I would love that. I need to rewrite it.

[Camilla Woo]

Yachts are fun. They're contained. You could get a little fucked up. It's like you get fucked up at gorgeous. You nap until seven.

[Brookie]

That I can do.

[Camilla Woo]

And then you get ready after with like a sun kissed tan. And you go to dinner and you get a little more fucked up at dinner. That's me. I don't do.

[Tana Mongeau]

See, then I'd be doing off the table.

[Camilla Woo]

It's like that's where we don't align.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, and that's good. That's why I'm sober. But then I'm a hater.

[Camilla Woo]

Never in life.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've solved in getting her drunk.

[Camilla Woo]

Really have done. Or any hard drugs who hasn't smoked lil weed. I'm a paranoid fucking bitch. I cannot smoke for the life of me. But no, listen, I'm an anxious one too. I feel like I'm like, I wish I could be the cool bitch with a blunt with like some long fingernails. That looks but me, no, I think the cops are coming. I think everyone hates me and I think I'm going under cardiac arrest and somebody needs to take me to the Hospital immediately. Immediately. I wish I could be the bitch that smokes pot, sit on the couch, have a glass of wine.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think strains kind of matter, too, because, like, some strains matter because it's.

[Brookie]

Like, I don't like the trial and error of it all.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's like.

[Brookie]

It's like birth control.

[Camilla Woo]

It's like.

[Brookie]

You mean three months I have to do it. It's like, I don't want to be high, like a bad high, for long enough to find out what works and what doesn't. Like, I'd rather just not.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

I just don't. I'll get a little white girl wasted here and there.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yep.

[Camilla Woo]

But anyone in my life will tell you I just don't drink drink.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's great.

[Camilla Woo]

And I. I don't know if it's because I'm like, honestly on. I genuinely think it's because I'm like, I could be spending my time doing something productive.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

And that's just me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Way too long to realize that's just me.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, why the. Would I go out with people who. One half the time, the people that we go, like. Like, the random girls you meet when you're out don't give a about you. Like, they don't actually benefit you in any type of way, when I could just go home, like, pop my puss and make some money. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, why wouldn't I just do that?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, ma'am. I think it took me so long to realize that. That, like, the going out scene is just so regressive, and the promoters, every.

[Camilla Woo]

Once in a while there's a reason to celebrate. Why not, right? But I feel like there's a way to do it.

[Brookie]

And I just feel like it's Groundhog's Day. Like, literally every single night, the exact same thing happens and the same people there. And you're like, oh, my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you're not going to find love. And you're not going to make a best friend. You're not going to.

[Camilla Woo]

You hear that, Julie Julia? You're not going to find love. Thank you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And. But it's so hard because I was Julia for so long.

[Camilla Woo]

She's like, no, but I need to go to Sway and find this man. I'm like, you're not finding your husband.

[Brookie]

At Barnes and Noble.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, right.

[Camilla Woo]

I was tight skirt on. Go to an accounting firm and say, you need some shit.

[Brookie]

Drop a pencil, drop a Home Depot.

[Camilla Woo]

Show your song, and you'll find a hot man. Like, do something different. Like, show up at The Ritz Carlton. Have a drinking. Hike up your skirt a little and talk to a rich man who just.

[Brookie]

Said that, like go where the rich men hang out and look lost. Like that's what you do.

[Tana Mongeau]

Sway, I. It is, it's. No, but it's so wild. Cuz I truly. I was so damn convinced that I was going to find my husband in that club. Babe, you're going to find a 40 year old man with a rectile dysfunction and a problem. And arguably he likes minors with a. In the club. Yeah. And five and. Yeah. And it's just. Oh my God, it's so wild. And it's so easy too, I think, like being a party girl, you know what I mean? Like at first it's so fun. Like we know that and so many people just get addicted to that. Then like I was so addicted to the scene.

[Camilla Woo]

And the thing is though, like growing up in North Carolina, I genuinely believed. Has saved me from a lot of bullshit because I. Okay. I also worked at a bar the second I was able to. Right. So I've seen that I've been able to party and make money at the same time. So I'm like, oh, this is great.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like you probably saw the regular alcoholics too.

[Camilla Woo]

And like y'all, you specifically were in a position. You were young, making money and going.

[Tana Mongeau]

Out like and from Vegas, bro. Doomed from the jump, bro.

[Camilla Woo]

How do you not.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, yeah. I think my cards.

[Camilla Woo]

For me it was easy not to. Cause it's North Carolina. There's no. There's like bars and it's fun and it's like Kiki. It's more like classy. There's no like clubs. The first time I've ever heard the genre of EDM was in Florida. Never in my life have I ever heard of John Summit of any of these people. Until I got to a big city and I. And I'm like, this shit will fuck you up. If you start at the age of 15, 16 with a fake ID, how do you not like, genuinely like, how do you not get addicted to. How do you not start drugs? How do you not get with people who are trying to pimp you out?

[Tana Mongeau]

How do you not 100%. Oh. And I did. I saw a photo of my fake ID the other day. I was going through my camera roll and it was just. I had red fish nets on and it was a photo of my fake id and it was just so brutal. I was like, oh my God.

[Brookie]

It was a powerful time.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know, it all has to happen for me to Learn. But I always just want to. I want to tell the girlies out there, you know, that just, like, if you're lost in that club party scene, like, man.

[Brookie]

Yeah. And if you haven't gotten there yet, skip it.

[Camilla Woo]

Don't do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

It's so easy not to do it. It's just you just not going even.

[Tana Mongeau]

Just, like, the way, like, you saying that you've never done. In a room full of people in la. I can almost. I would bet my foot that you could go in a lot of rooms in LA and say that. And everyone's like, oh, my God. What? Like, that's so lame. Like, just try it. And it's like, why? Why?

[Camilla Woo]

Wait, so, like, why try it?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Brookie]

No, but I'm a.

[Camilla Woo]

To say, so why?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's what I'm saying. Like, and it's. You're eating with that. And I wish someone had told me that, like, it's cool not to do drugs. You're like, if you get out of it, you're gonna look back and be like, it's.

[Camilla Woo]

And honestly, this all boils down to not knowing you. Because it's like, I don't want to be the odd one out. I don't want to be the one not off. That scares me. Like, you know, I mean, like. Like, I want to be a part of it. Like, I don't want to feel left out. And so that's how I think a lot of people do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then it's like, I want to be numb. And then it's like, I. You know what I mean?

[Camilla Woo]

And it's like, you like it. The problem.

[Tana Mongeau]

And then it's like, these people.

[Camilla Woo]

That's what I understand about.

[Brookie]

Like, just try it. It's like, for what? For me to find out. I love it. And now I'm doing heroin.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me, like, not the heroin.

[Camilla Woo]

Especially if you, like. Especially if you know, like, person by person. Like, if you have family members who are addicted to. If you have addictive personality. Like. Like.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I had all of that.

[Camilla Woo]

Me, like, bro, I vaped forever.

[Tana Mongeau]

Did you quit?

[Camilla Woo]

I did. Like, how I just stopped. See a sign. See, I literally don't know how I just stopped. The spirit said, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, my God, the ghost. Wait, Honestly, they might be my favorite.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, how?

[Camilla Woo]

I just. I don't know how. Like, for me, it was not. Yes, it was difficult. When is it the most difficult? When you had a couple drinks and you're like, I want to fucking rip a goddamn vape right now? Like, that's like, everything I would ever want. Want in that moment. But, like, on the day to day, like, you just stop buying it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I've been able to stop most things. I don't know what it is. It's crazy. Like, benzos and alcohol are arguably harder. Like, whatever.

[Camilla Woo]

You know, I. I genuinely think it's the hand, the oral fixation. It's this. It's this movement.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think you and the smoke shop, like, the accessibility, the legality, the, you know, like, I could just walk in there and lose drive.

[Brookie]

Like, how accessible is it to you?

[Tana Mongeau]

There's so. Right. You can't drive at all.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, you're just a bad driver.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, I do not know how. And I.

[Camilla Woo]

Wait, what do you mean? Wait?

[Tana Mongeau]

Y.

[Camilla Woo]

What? Hold on, hold on.

[Brookie]

I have a driver's license. What the do you mean you bought three cars? Zero license.

[Camilla Woo]

Wait, can you Wait, wait, how old are you?

[Tana Mongeau]

Let me give you the smackpack. Okay. Raised by monkeys. Drop out, move out LA by like 16. One of my very first sponsorships was Uber. I actually don't talk about this a lot, but back in the day, Uber used to just give me free rides to talk about them, which is wild. They would literally, I would do anything. They would never now, ever. But they were a startup and I was. I was a driver's licenseless and then substance abuse. So then it was like I could never be behind the wheel. And then it just, like, I just kept getting older. And it still scares me personally with my ADHD and the way I've been a passenger princess for so long.

[Camilla Woo]

Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

That I'm like, okay. I don't want to be a danger to everyone in my car and outside of my car. Yeah.

[Brookie]

It's like, it's once you know how. It's like.

[Camilla Woo]

I will say, though, probably learning to drive in LA is the worst thing you could do.

[Brookie]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

But do you ever plan to have kids? What about soccer practice? I don't know. I'm just thinking in the future, like, what about like, mom, take me to.

[Tana Mongeau]

My friend's house, Daddy's gonna take you. Or nanny, maybe. I don't always. That's okay.

[Brookie]

So you're similar.

[Camilla Woo]

No, that's 2025 for sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

I like, should, but I've also tried a lot, and it's one of those things where it's like. It's like learning Chinese to me because I never wait.

[Camilla Woo]

That's such a good video.

[Brookie]

It's hard for everybody.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, I did a whole moment. I did. I did that whole series. Obviously. David Dobrik and Jake Paul weren't going to teach you how to drive Tana.

[Brookie]

But like you learn in Vegas or I don't know, somewhere there's where there's a grid system. Because it's like that's just the easiest way to learn.

[Tana Mongeau]

And like, like yeah, learning here is. That's the other thing.

[Brookie]

In the beginning it's like anything. There's so many things to think about. So it is like anxious and overwhelming. But like once you know you're not thinking about driving when you're driving.

[Camilla Woo]

Why did I not know you didn't have a driver's license?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, it's crazy good though. No, I'm just kidding.

[Camilla Woo]

That's all that really matters.

[Tana Mongeau]

You can ride, but like yeah, no, but yeah, that's the thing. I can't drive, but I can ride.

[Camilla Woo]

Exactly.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, but I would. But then I also, you know, I hate authority. I would be like, but I can text.

[Brookie]

I mean people in New York and never drive a car in their lives. But like we don't live in New York.

[Tana Mongeau]

I will, I'll be.

[Camilla Woo]

The necessity to drive isn't that big here.

[Brookie]

Especially with. I'm like Waymo exists now. What's going to exist when you have kids?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's true.

[Brookie]

You're going to have a self driving.

[Tana Mongeau]

They're going to be droning them to school.

[Brookie]

Wait, could you have your own self driving car? Like if Waymo can do it.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like oh, but you mean like really self driving?

[Camilla Woo]

Like really like like that's definitely the future.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Wait, can I just buy a Wayo?

[Brookie]

Yeah, that's what I'm asking, I guess.

[Camilla Woo]

Way in it please.

[Brookie]

Or like have it parked in your garage and you're like oh I my kid needs to go to soccer practice. Like this car's gonna take him.

[Camilla Woo]

I, I'd be scared. I'd rather I'd be scared.

[Tana Mongeau]

And all the wayo malfunctions like story.

[Brookie]

Oh yeah, I know.

[Tana Mongeau]

Do you remember yower like it was during the LA fires one of our friends.

[Camilla Woo]

Could you like I'm imagining this. Like I'd be pissed if my life was taken away through a self driving car. Wasn't even in my goddamn control and.

[Tana Mongeau]

I lost some final destination. I'd be pissed.

[Brookie]

I'd be pissed.

[Camilla Woo]

What a lame way to go out.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's. That's so what happened to me?

[Camilla Woo]

Could you imagine like, like WRAL news just covers like oh, we have here on the scene Camilla dead by Waymo. Like I would delete it.

[Brookie]

No, that's a rough dying On a lime scooter. That's how I feel about it. I'm like, all my friends would have to lie. I'm like, I'm so afraid of dying in an embarrassing way.

[Tana Mongeau]

You are afraid of dying in an embarrassing way because it's like.

[Brookie]

Like, it can't be that. Like, say anything but that. Like, she got hit on a lime.

[Camilla Woo]

Call your attorney. Put it in your wall. I'm fine.

[Brookie]

Well, I'm on record right now. You will not know if I die from. Of mysterious causes. Turn the other cheek.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yep, yep. It was a lime scooter. But we won't know anything. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Wow. Okay, so do you have a list of questions? I don't want you to feel like you don't know something.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what it is, is I have this whole list of, like, interview questions for you. And then you sat down, you started talking, and it's like, I don't know. At least I hate this. I'm sure you do too. Like, when you go on a podcast, and then it's like, I sit down and they're like, so what was it like being with Jake Paul? Tell us about Tanacon. Do this, do that. And they just hit the, like, the mainstream, the bullet points of the mainstream. And it's like, you're leaving feeling, like, exposed.

[Brookie]

Like, what did they just do to me?

[Tana Mongeau]

Or just the repetitive same. Like, if she were to go on any podcast right now, they're going to ask her to hit those of Alabama and this and that. And then I was like, wait, this girl is more than that. Like, I just want a kiki, right?

[Camilla Woo]

And I think. I mean, it's important to hit those things to so I can tell. I feel like when I'm interviewing, I don't say much about me. I let that person tell their story. It's almost like their moment. I'm just the one asking the questions. I think for me, the hardest thing about doing these interview podcasts and things like that is when that person doesn't feed off of my energy and when they can't feed off, make a conversation flow, it really puts me in a weird position. Like, if anybody watched the Santos podcast, I feel like I was digging, man. Like, I sat there for a hour, like, just needing more. Like, I'm like. I'm like, come on.

[Tana Mongeau]

I haven't seen that yet. Way, No.

[Brookie]

I start just making things up. I have. I struggle with that so much. I just did, like, a club appearance situation in Chicago, and the promoter, like, I mean, his whole job is to, like, you know, take you out, like, make you have fun and stuff. And like, we. I had to go to the club. I hate going to the club. So I was like, whatever. And I was really like. I was like, gonna do it. I was so excited. I was like, I'm gonna do dinner and everything. Like old times. He picked up me and Bibi. Bibi is my best friend. Silent, literally. We had to sit at dinner with him, like, for like three hours, I want to say. And he did not say a word the entire time. So me and Bibi were just making things up, like. Like trying so hard. It's hard to get away.

[Camilla Woo]

It's hard to pull something out of fucking ass. Yeah, it was impossible.

[Brookie]

We ended up grabbing two girls and the bathroom and saying, like, can you please pretend that we, like, went to college together and come sit down with us? And.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, see, that's iconic.

[Brookie]

We did. It was like. It was so funny. We got to the table. I'm like, she was in my sorority. He's like, what sorority? She's like, cap.

[Camilla Woo]

He wouldn't have known. He could have made a word up, right?

[Brookie]

But, like, it was impossible.

[Tana Mongeau]

No one was interviewing. That is just like. Or when you think it's going to go one way so hard, and then it goes.

[Camilla Woo]

It doesn't. And it didn't. Like, I wanted to, like, first of.

[Tana Mongeau]

All, what are your main questions? I don't know enough.

[Camilla Woo]

I asked him about the Ash Trevino stuff and. Cause that it was a segue, right? Like, I did Ash Trevino. It did well. I asked very direct questions. And Ash just fucking talks, which is great for her. Me, just the entertainment.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, no, keep going.

[Camilla Woo]

With Santos. He showed up. Okay, this is like, bts, I haven't actually talked about this. Just. Cause I didn't want to give. I didn't want to post another video about him. Because in my mind, I'm like, bro, fuck it. It didn't fucking matter. Whatever. He shows up, right? Fried. I mean, absolutely out of his fucking mind. Couldn't form mumbling fried weed.

[Tana Mongeau]

You think? Or you think, like, further weed.

[Camilla Woo]

But here's the tea.

[Tana Mongeau]

We love this.

[Camilla Woo]

He's like. He comes in and he's like, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just so fucking fried. And I'm looking at him like, okay, here's the difference. If you smoke every day, you know how to act. It's not an occasion for you. Like. And also, I flew you out, I put you in a hotel, and for you to show up. Fucking that pissed me off. I'M not gonna make it a big deal because I have something to fucking do, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

Whatever.

[Camilla Woo]

He's fried. I'm like, okay, hopefully this is, like, a everyday thing for him and we can get something done. I can get the things I want answered, and we can move on, call it a day. He sits down. He's the whole time I'm trying to get. Remember the TikTok I did with him? Whatever, whatever. He's the entire time being like, I have cotton mouth. I'm so fried. And I could tell it was. It like, clicked in my head. I'm like, that's how I act when I've ever smoked. Therefore, I know he's not a smoker. He's tweaking and he's. Something's up. So I.

[Tana Mongeau]

When you're so high, you just have to keep saying, I'm so high.

[Camilla Woo]

He's like, 90 times. He's like, can I have water? Can I have this? Can I have this? Can I have this? And he's like. He ordered food there. He brought this guy, right?

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm probably so nervous too. And, like, as a guy, men are never gonna say, hey, I'm so nervous.

[Camilla Woo]

No, he was for. He's sweating bullets, bro. You could see the sweat on it. Like, I could just tell. I'm already a little angry. I'm like, you showed up fried. Whatever. He orders Uber eats. He sits down in the middle of the thing. He's like, yo, can you let my boy up? I'm like, what? And I don't mind you bringing anyone. That's not. That's not my issue. It's like, yeah, I want you to feel comfortable enough to be able to.

[Tana Mongeau]

Speak and kind of thing after thing, like, we've had that, you know, where you have someone on, and it's like, okay, I've gotten you the drink. You've gotten up to pee three times. You've gotten distracted off camera. You've taken the phone call, and it's like, hello?

[Camilla Woo]

That's completely disrespectful, in my opinion. I'm so, like. I would. I would actually say something, but I was.

[Tana Mongeau]

Podcast etiquette isn't spoken about enough. Not that I'm putting the cat feet out. Always. Let me stop. Actually, I retract that. And I'm sorry. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, yeah. Me being, like, pussy out the whole fucking time.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, no, you have. You have it.

[Camilla Woo]

He sits down. He's like, you know, can I have my boy up here? I'm like. I'm like, who is he? Because I need to know for my own safety, like, who the fuck are you bringing in here? Like, you know, I feel like we should talk about this before.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you don't know what the Trevino's.

[Camilla Woo]

It'S his boy that gave him the weed. And it's just like his. He said it was for security purposes.

[Tana Mongeau]

He invited the plug?

[Camilla Woo]

Yes, he invited the plug. I don't know if he's armed. I don't know nothing.

[Brookie]

And so what does he need security for?

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, who the fuck it. Stop. So fucking random.

[Tana Mongeau]

Security being like, the new thing is so funny.

[Camilla Woo]

I think that's just what he said because he's so fried out of his mind. Security. Like, he needed to make something up for me to not question him. So I'm like, whatever. I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna press you on this matter right now because you're so fucking out of your mind. Right. So he's just, you know. You know, just being. Just being weird. This boy comes in, he's very nice. I will say nothing wrong. He's very kind. He sat there the whole time, actually said nothing. I tried, you know, I try to talk to the people that come in the room because I don't want you to feel like I'm not addressing you. Like, I will always address the person that comes in. Like, hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Yeah, you know, whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

He smelled like straight weed.

[Camilla Woo]

You know, I don't know if he's armed. That's the whole thing. So anyways, we'll take security precautions next time.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Anyway, we're sitting in this podcast. I don't know if we left it in or not. He got up to pee like, five times. Okay. Like, he's the beginning of the Astrovino lore, right? So she talked about him on my last podcast. So my natural reaction was I'm going to put him on there and have him kind of segue the story. I have someone that writes flashcards for me and. And I will go back and forth on, you know, questions and things like that. So I have like a deck of flashcards, and I'm like, all right, question after question after question. Because I'm being very direct.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, why were you, like, trying to get out of him? Like, what was. What was it I want? What would the dream have been?

[Camilla Woo]

The dream would have been, you need to tell me the exact story of how you somehow ended up getting Astravina. Where the hell did she come from?

[Tana Mongeau]

Have they meet?

[Camilla Woo]

Exactly. We don't know his live or Something he just went live with people and said that that's how they met. Like, it was very one worded responses. It didn't, it didn't flow. It was very like. And I feel like I have direct questions, but I, and this is something that I harp on. I will never sit there and attack you. Like, even with Ashevino. Yeah. I could have sat there and be like, you fucking crazy ass bitch.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, you get nothing out of it.

[Camilla Woo]

You'll get nothing out of the person if you sit there and attack them. So you have to almost be light and like, address it very specifically. Yeah, you have to address it very specifically and make that person feel comfortable enough to tell their story. Right. Cause that's the end of the.

[Tana Mongeau]

The.

[Camilla Woo]

That's the end goal, right, is to that person to be able to tell their side of the story.

[Tana Mongeau]

What was his goal even of be like clout, right, Brooke? Like, what do you think? Like, he just wanted her for clout. I don't.

[Camilla Woo]

I have no me or Asino.

[Brookie]

Like, why he.

[Tana Mongeau]

Him wanting. Why he ever got involved with her?

[Camilla Woo]

I think it was they kind of mutually benefited each other, right? Like they came out with this song, they started doing live. They, she, he. He kind of exploited the fact that she was.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's a mean.

[Camilla Woo]

In my opinion. Yeah. Like they made a song. You want to know how it smell? Ask Santo. You know, it smell. Well, they made a song together that went fucking crazy. Like, there's lore behind this Astrovino thing with Santos. And that was my.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, duh, you had to. It was the sequel, right?

[Camilla Woo]

So when he's sitting there, he gets up in the middle of this segment and he's like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm like, all right, you've got up like five times. What am I going to say? No, right? So he goes, he comes back and like things get weirder. Like he's, he seems more like neurotic. Like he's like, he's like, can I get water? And like he's like, can I get water?

[Tana Mongeau]

You think it's, you think it's like plug and it's so not you having. Like that's so insane.

[Camilla Woo]

No, like, he's just being more like, I need, I need water. I need. I need this. Like, like. Or can we. He asked me in the middle pockets, can we redo this tomorrow? Like, can we do it again? I'm like, no, like this. I'm my.

[Tana Mongeau]

Not you just trying to get the Astrovino sequel. And then this man like flying him out. And he's just showing up on.

[Camilla Woo]

So disappointed.

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't think that's ever even happened to us. Having someone doubt on the pod.

[Brookie]

I don't think so.

[Camilla Woo]

So this is why I didn't say anything. Because this is all alleged. You can't. I cannot prove that he did.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, this is just your experience.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, but at the end when he left, it was really awkward. He ended up leaving, it was fine. And he text me. He was like, I'm sorry, I have the text message. He was like, I'm sorry. I was fried.

[Tana Mongeau]

Right?

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like, it's fine. You did.

[Tana Mongeau]

Fried is one thing, but like, Wolf of Wall street is another.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like talking to my team and my. Cause they were there. They go in the bathroom. They're like, look, I took this video as evidence just in case he ever tried to pin anything against you. But there's these little tissues with blood.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh, yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Enough said. In the trash can. We don't. I have no. I have no ground to stand on to say he was doing, but what can I assume?

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Podcasting on also sounds like the biggest nightmare. Imagine watching that back the next day. No, I would be like, sitting here. I love that.

[Camilla Woo]

Right?

[Brookie]

I like that Thanksgiving.

[Tana Mongeau]

So give thanks.

[Camilla Woo]

So he went on live the next day and said, you know Camilla, I feel like she was asking me such direct questions and like, with her big blue eyes. And she goes, man, I just wish verbatim, I have the clip saved. He goes, I just wish someone would have let me do it sober.

[Brookie]

Would have let you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Nobody. You should have let you do it sober.

[Camilla Woo]

The way I wish I could move my eyebrow right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

To be like the. Like, I'm trying. This is.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wish someone let me. We should have a little remote. Just sometimes we could just literally just like, huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

I. What?

[Tana Mongeau]

That's brutal. Well, at least this is the closing of that for you. Like, it's not like, now you have to go interview a third cousin.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm so done. Like, I'm like, you've done it. Whatever.

[Tana Mongeau]

You did what you needed to do. And now I think all it is really is just that she should go to jail.

[Brookie]

And then it's like, did you see the new advancement?

[Tana Mongeau]

What?

[Brookie]

Which you know what I'm talking about with like, Muhammad. Her talking about Muhammad Ali? No, it's like, I guess the guy that she is dating in prison killed a man. Okay. And it was somebody father and the daughter of that person. If I'M not mistaken. This is all what I have gathered from clips. Comes onto her live and she goes like, he deserved it. He deserved what happened to him. Like.

[Camilla Woo]

And yeah, she did say that. Yeah.

[Brookie]

She's like, he deserved what happened to him. And then she goes on to say, like, his name is Muhammad. How do you know he's not The Muhammad that denied 11.

[Camilla Woo]

Yep. Verbatim. And laughs about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm so tired. Like, I'm like, let me sleep tired. Like, I am so, so tired.

[Brookie]

It was just so crazy in her just saying, like, he deserved to die. He deserved to die. You don't respect me. He deserved to die.

[Tana Mongeau]

She's.

[Brookie]

It's so insane. She's disgusting. Like, really disgusting.

[Camilla Woo]

No, and I. And I genuinely, like, I have said this, like, there's no. I. I don't believe in a world where she's not. She does not have a mental illness.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, of course there's seven.

[Camilla Woo]

Has to be a diagnosis for someone like that.

[Tana Mongeau]

There's a narcissistic personality disorder or development, maybe like a bipolar mania situation.

[Camilla Woo]

I think manic. Yeah, I think she's manic. Like, I'm being for real.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

I don't know if you noticed. Did the podcast with her. Love the Bop House. They're great. Podcast didn't go the way she think it was gonna go. Boom.

[Tana Mongeau]

Textbook narcissist, too. And it's just like, at least you're done. Like, it's done.

[Camilla Woo]

No, for sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think you showed the people what you're made of with that. And now, thank God it's over.

[Camilla Woo]

Beat it in too much. Like, it's like, okay, we get it. She sucks. She's gonna continue to suck. She'll forever suck.

[Tana Mongeau]

Next we have continuing to suck and forever sucking. I didn't even ask you this once. And I just wanna know what is your take right now on today's date of the whole Bhad Bhabie, Alabama situation? Where do you stand with all of it?

[Camilla Woo]

I'm gonna be very honest. Like, I think I admire Danielle a lot, or Bhad Bhabie a lot for being. She's so. Who she is. And I think that, you know, she stood on that. And I think Alabama is young. I think she has a lot of growing to do, like, naturally. Right? Like, I feel like, to be very honest, I feel like I've heard the same story about her a hundred times. And I don't think that that's, like, we shouldn't stamp her and be like, she's gonna be fucking terrible forever. Because we all fucking have sucked at one point. We've all made dumbass decisions, and I feel like right now is just. I think, honestly, she kind of just needs this moment. Like, that's just my genuine opinion. Like, I have no hate for her, Alabama. None. I have no hate for her at all. I think that there's a lot of learning to do, and no one's gonna grow if they continue to keep beating each other in the fucking ground. Granted, Bhad Bhabie's about her fucking shit. Okay, like, you wanna say in your diss track, you wanna catch her out the fuck side.

[Tana Mongeau]

I would be so inside if I were Alabama, right?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, please, please, please catch each other outside. Then, like, she called you out. You called her out on a. That to me, though. Like. Like, I. You fight. Yeah, you fight. Like, for sure.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, even if Alabama really wants to say she's about her at this point, let's get the Calabasas Commons, you know, let's shut the air one down and let's hold the fight there.

[Camilla Woo]

You know, honestly, like, if y'all trying to. If you're trying to make a bag, like, host a fight.

[Brookie]

Oh, my God, imagine. And they, like, boxed each other.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. Like, host a fight.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's so funny. Cause for some reason, I just feel like Alabama would think she's above that. And if anything, it's like, well, she.

[Camilla Woo]

Always says Chris would never let that happen. I think a quote directly from Alabama was, I'm too. Like, I'm too above that. Like, I don't fight. And then I think she was in the studio and she was like, what she say? She was like, I'm gonna call you bitches Lucy Lou or something. Like, she's. I don't understand what direction she's trying to go in.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me either.

[Camilla Woo]

I think she might be using this to. To, like, boost the music, like, her music career.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, but if you can't stand on business, you can't work in that career. And going up against Bhad Bhabie, God, I do. I wish I could possess that confidence. But it's like, just where do you get off?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I don't know where this ends. I don't know. Like, in my mind, I'm like, okay, this is great, right? Like, this is, like, fun watching from the sidelines. Like, I kind of. Of obviously, like, backed out of it. Because I think, honestly, like, this isn't a. Like, I just inserted myself for shits and gigs.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me saying.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm like, I really. I think you guys should duke this out and just call it a day. Like me on a Tuesday. That baby went and fought Malou. Like. Or she went.

[Tana Mongeau]

Vicky, like, that was everything.

[Camilla Woo]

Fight. It's done.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Whoever wins, wins or lose, whatever, take to the chest and move on. But I think that, like. Like you said, like, I think Alabama just too little. She's above that. She. She believes.

[Tana Mongeau]

She. Yeah. So I really, like, honestly, it's like, I hope because I. I see her now and again, she'll post a sad post or something or obviously talk about all of her hate and stuff. And it's like, you did lose, right? And like, yes, you could keep fighting it, but I think, if anything, the most admirable thing in the world would be just to come online and issue your apologies and, like, show growth in that sense.

[Brookie]

And, like, you're right. You got me.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. Ex. That's what I'm saying.

[Brookie]

Song kind of eight.

[Camilla Woo]

If she came out and said that song kind of. Cause when she wrote that first song, first of all, like, oh, when someone.

[Tana Mongeau]

Else wrote that first song, sure, yeah, whatever.

[Camilla Woo]

It was good song. Great song. It's catchy. Both of the songs are catchy. Obviously, Bhad Bhabie is Bhad baby. Right? Like, she'll always be. I'm so sorry. She'll always be on top, like. And that's that. But like, bro, her dissing me at the end being like. And Camila, bitch, shut the fuck up.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bad bitch. Or Alabama said this.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, don't play.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's always the. With a hot pink octo, buddy, you don't want to with her.

[Camilla Woo]

And that's. And that's that. Hold on.

[Tana Mongeau]

What do you mean? And she pulled it up so fast. I'm in love with you.

[Camilla Woo]

Stop everything you're doing and take a listen right now. Ready? I bet you.

[Tana Mongeau]

This is Alabama.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, I made it in her saying.

[Tana Mongeau]

You been a fan is crazy too. Of what the wig lay.

[Camilla Woo]

No, she's saying to me, camila, bitch, shut the fuck up. And I'm gonna be very honest. What an honor. And I'm honestly, I feel like this is mama I made it moment because it's like, thank you.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm playing in Kris Jenner's room right now.

[Camilla Woo]

That's exactly what the fuck I said. I said, now it's confirmed that the Kardashians have. At least they will hear my name and they will wonder who the hell the fuck that is. Cause I am not in Kris Jenner's world. I am not in Kylie's world. And so it's like, fuck yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is great. That was a great banger for me to exit.

[Tana Mongeau]

And no. Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Fuck yeah. So that's really my opinion on it. Like, I really did it. I made it. I like, you get me, like, snaps for me because respectfully, this all worked out in my favor.

[Tana Mongeau]

I 100% agree. I think it's the perfect time to exit.

[Camilla Woo]

I do hope, I really hope that they both figure it out as far as, like, what they want to figure out.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Don't necessarily know where she's taking this.

[Tana Mongeau]

Direction, but it's so funny. Bad baby said you cannot do or Alabama. Why am I confusing them? Sorry. So funny.

[Brookie]

She was right. Alabama the doer is bad baby.

[Tana Mongeau]

Exactly. And like, I think bad baby 8. I hope this ends up being a sick ass growing moment for Alabama and she uses all of this fame to then become something that feels authentic 100%.

[Camilla Woo]

And I'm being very honest. I think that with the tools she has, and I've said this off camera, like, with the tools she has and the people around her, she could be something so incredible.

[Tana Mongeau]

I couldn't read more. Why is it so infuriating?

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, stop. I agree. She has the tools to be something incredible. I mean, just absolutely building generational wealth for herself. And I think it'll hit her like, it hits everyone. You know, when you release something, you're like, oh, fuck. Like, why did I do that? Like, it'll hit her at some point and I think it'll be such a honestly beautiful story in the end.

[Tana Mongeau]

I agree.

[Camilla Woo]

And I think Bhad Bhabie is also.

[Tana Mongeau]

Gonna flourish and just continue to prevail.

[Camilla Woo]

She's that prevail 100%.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because it's authentic. It's all authentic.

[Camilla Woo]

And I'm loving Bhad Bhabie's mom era. Like, it is everything I've ever could have wanted. Like, she. The way she, like, talks about her daughter and like, the love that she has. Like just watching, you know that girl that sat on Dr. Phil and was like, catch me outside. Be a mom to a daughter.

[Tana Mongeau]

And just like, I'm sure she's so passionate. Like, yes, we see the crazy bad baby with the fire under her ass, but also, like, we've also seen Danielle Bregoli deal with a lot with her mother not being the best. And I'm sure she's got a fire under her ass to be different than that. And that's sick. And has the money.

[Camilla Woo]

She really is.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And we'll probably just like with how much she wasn't accepted in so many ways, will probably be the most accepting mother ever, which is.

[Brookie]

That's how it goes.

[Camilla Woo]

100. I think she's. She'll thrive. She will thrive in being a mom and like, raising a teenager and raising, you know, like. Like a mini her, you know, and she'll be able to do. Undo all the wrongs that she felt. She's been wronged. You know what I'm saying?

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's like, all you can ever ask for in those situations.

[Camilla Woo]

Hundreds.

[Tana Mongeau]

We talk about that all the time. But it's like the biggest goal and I just can't. It's so great that you have all of these, like, amazing, mature takes. How old are you?

[Camilla Woo]

22.

[Tana Mongeau]

No way. Oh, my God. I do anything to be this put together and just know you're.

[Camilla Woo]

I think it's just like, for me, I've always been such a logical thinker. Like, I'm very. I think, yes, I'm emotional and yes, I act impulsively, but, like, I will always result back to the logical underlying of everything.

[Tana Mongeau]

You know what it is too. You know who you are.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And so I know what I would.

[Camilla Woo]

Want if I was Alabama in this situation. Yeah, she's human. And I think, yeah, I could sit here and be like, man, fuck that bitch. What the fuck? Like this, that.

[Tana Mongeau]

And the third, as I did at 22. What the fuck?

[Camilla Woo]

What does that do for her? And, like, do I. If I sit back, if I went home tonight after coming on here and absolutely ripping her to shreds, ripping anybody to shreds, and knowing that if she saw it, she would. She has emotions. She feels things regardless of how she wants to act online. Like, she feels. Feels real, raw emotions. And to know that she would feel worse than what she's already feeling, it's like, why would I contribute to that?

[Tana Mongeau]

I hope the people who see the videos of you popping off also see this, because it's like you are the definition of, like, fuck with me. I'll fuck with you back.

[Camilla Woo]

But also, I'll never start it, but I'll finish it. Ever. I'll never. I'll never, ever, ever start. I'll never pick a fight with you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Ever. Until you pick one with me first.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

And then.

[Tana Mongeau]

And good for you for showing a lot of the young girls, girls who follow you, that standing up for yourself isn't.

[Camilla Woo]

But I'll never, ever feel okay. Like, genuinely knowing that I've hurt someone to a point of, like, deep sadness and something that they'll never forget because I've been that bitch. I was that bitch in high school that just said the craziest shit to get under someone's skin, knowing damn well if that was said to me, I would have gone off the rails. And I think that especially when you're online and we're all so clinically ungodly online that it's like I'm just, I'm spreading that thought to millions of people that's also going to side with me just because I have that opinion. And that's not fair to her and it's not fair to anyone in a situation. Even if, right, I was genuinely done dirty, I would say it. I would say my piece. I'd have a logical explanation as to why I feel the way that I do. But I would never go on anything and, and like rip them to shreds because they're not, they're not here to, they're not here to talk shit back to me. Granted, if I'm like going at it with someone and you're like, yo, let's have you and the girl on there, she's there to defend herself. I think it's cheesy, corny, and lame as fuck for someone to go online and absolutely trash a person when that person can't respond. That's not fair. You're not good for. You'll talk all that behind a camera, but you won't say it to their face. And yeah, Alabama doesn't know that. That I truly don't have deep hatred for her. Really. How would she.

[Tana Mongeau]

But she's the place to say it. And good for you, dude. At 22, it took me so much fucking longer to realize all of that. Like, I think you're just very like, ahead of what 22 should look like in your position. And it's really great.

[Camilla Woo]

I've been through a lot of bullshit to get here, a lot of fucking bullshit to be able to do this way. And it's. And I still fail and I still fuck up and I still say shit I don't mean. You know what I mean?

[Tana Mongeau]

Self awareness. I'm so proud of you. I don't know, like, you know, it's just like, it's. I don't, I don't know you well yet, but like, it's. I just, I am.

[Camilla Woo]

And I pride myself on being like, well spoken, you are. I, I really, if I ever, like, yeah, I'll go and talk shit on Tick Tock. But like, if it came down to.

[Tana Mongeau]

It, like, you can have the long form combo.

[Camilla Woo]

I really can. I really can. I can say it well and I can say it in a manner where it can genuinely probably get through to someone.

[Tana Mongeau]

And even good for you for having that confidence. Right. Because it's like, like so many girls would struggle with even just feeling confident enough to say I'm well spoken.

[Brookie]

But that's back Timothy Shalam in his.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Really?

[Tana Mongeau]

Did you see him?

[Camilla Woo]

No.

[Brookie]

Acknowledging that you, like, you don't always.

[Tana Mongeau]

Have to be so humble.

[Brookie]

Yeah. We were talking about how it's become a trend to be like humble and you can't admit that you're smart and you can't admit that you're talented and stuff. Cuz it looks like, you know, cocky and braggy and like. But people, people have like we've gotten away from it a little bit. And then Timothy Shalam just, just did his acceptance speech and he's like, yeah, I've been trying to be great and like I want to be great and.

[Camilla Woo]

Like I am great.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. And it's so cool to.

[Camilla Woo]

It's not, it's not, it's not lame to give someone their flowers when they.

[Tana Mongeau]

And give yourself flowers, you know, 100. I think it's a good, beautiful thing. I haven't asked you about the Bob House at all.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, it's a great place. Okay.

[Tana Mongeau]

I wanna, I wanna ask the corny like what would Logan Paul do? Question. Okay. How much money are you guys making? And give me a PR answer. You don't have to actually like. No, I'm just.

[Camilla Woo]

I don't. I want to hear more about it and speak for me. Well, Sophie I think is at 3,4 mil a month that she's doing really, really well for me. I'm current like right now in this like currently 1.5amonth. Julia, do you mind. Do you mind if I say yours?

[Tana Mongeau]

I don't even know how much I make me.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, you just clear it or not. I won't if you don't. I want to know. I. Julia's on the brink of like 807. 800.

[Tana Mongeau]

Oh my God.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. No, we're.

[Brookie]

I'm sick to my stomach.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Brookie]

And I'm so proud of you.

[Camilla Woo]

Thanks.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's so insane.

[Camilla Woo]

I need that.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so insane.

[Brookie]

It's just.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's just so cool. I just love to see women win in any way. And it feels the girls are fucking killing it. Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Like the Bophouse is also. I want to address this like the Bophouse. I think a lot of people, they'll go online and they'll be like, the Bop House is a fucking horrible place. They're all like, do you know what's behind the Bophouse? It's all these dirty men that are wanting to see them naked. Like, no. Can I just say, I wish. I really wish it was these dirty. Like, I really wish it was these men that were watching this, because then it would convert way better. But I. To my surprise, it's all like, we're not making overly sexual content on TikTok.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, it's just. That's just not what's happening.

[Tana Mongeau]

So, yeah, you're all, like, showing your personalities. You're showing that women are multifaceted. Right.

[Camilla Woo]

I think these girls are obsessed with, like, the. It's like, it almost looks like a big girl sleepover. And we're, you know, we're not over sexualizing ourselves. Grant Instagram, bitch, please pop on my pussy every day. But on TikTok, it's very. We have over, like, 70% of our viewers are women.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I think because it's so interesting to them.

[Camilla Woo]

Right? And I think people are associating, like, that's not what we meant for it to be, but we are. I'm eternally grateful. Like, my girls, I love them. Love my girls. Like, they are. And that's literally the most loyal kind. Like, I love my fans, like, to my core. Like, I will literally say I cried about it when T. Tick Tock. I'll say it with pride, babe. I cried about it when Tick Tock got banned. Was on Instagram bawling my eyes out.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because you're like, back to the men.

[Camilla Woo]

I'm scared. Like, take me out of here. Like, I was so used to the. Like, I would do things on purpose to get rage bait because I knew it would get men to engage.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

And I'm totally cool with that. And I'll go back to that. Could give two.

[Tana Mongeau]

But now you get to Kiki with the girls.

[Camilla Woo]

With the girls is a new level of. Of like, oh, my fuck, I never had a sister. Like, this is. I feel seen Incredible.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

So I wanna preface that. It's the girlies in there. Like, I get why people are upset by it.

[Tana Mongeau]

You have the dream sets, you're making the money off the men, but then you're having fun with the girls. Like. Cause I feel when girls. When it is just all men, and that's all your content, those girls are masterminds, you know, but they probably wish there were some more girls in there to, like, you know, get them and see them.

[Camilla Woo]

100%. And I think. I think I just. I love where the concept of the Bophouse is going.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too.

[Camilla Woo]

I love that we each individually make our own money, and at the end of the day, we are our own CEOs, and we are. We have a brain to make our own decisions, and there's no one there saying we can't. Granted. Do I wish we had a PR team that could get us on a red carpet to the Met Galilee? Yes, of course. Who doesn't? But.

[Tana Mongeau]

But it's. This almost is your Met Galician. It's better. It's. It's so authentic. And like, we were talking about, you know, earlier, it's just like, you are taking those bricks down, obviously, for a future where you can show that it converts better and yada yada. I just. I don't know. I just love the Bob House. I want to know, like, what do you guys do on an off day? Like, what. What is it? What is it? What is night time? Like, like, what do you guys so get into?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, the girls all knew each other previously, like, for years before I. I became a part of, like, they were all friends for a really long time that kind of lived in their own houses and just kind of like, Kiki'd and got together. Honestly, they never really got together. Like, it was just kinda like they knew each other. They'd go on group trips together and, like, have a good time or whatever. And then I started doing really, really well with this whole podcast thing. The clips that I would be putting out. There was drama that happened between Sophie and Aisha. And then I addressed it on my podcast, had both of them there, they rekindled. And then we're like, wait, this rekindling and being together is fun. Let's do, like a Bob House. Like, let's make it a thing.

[Tana Mongeau]

Who thought of the name?

[Camilla Woo]

I think it was just kind of given. Like, we're all bops. Like, I think it was. No one really thought of it. We just. It just kind of came.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, no one was like, we didn't have a meeting. It was like, okay, guys, like, what are we gonna call the house? It was just like, bops. Like, we're all bops. And then one of us was like, yo, just do Bob House.

[Tana Mongeau]

And it's. It's so organic and it's great. I just love anything that flips the nail on the head too. Like, I just. You know what I mean? That's just like, everyone's gonna call us this anyways. And, like, how funny if we literally trademark this.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, why do I kind of love, like, the name Bob? Like, it's so cute. It is cute, right? Like, it's like, you're calling me a. Like, how demure. Yes, mindful.

[Tana Mongeau]

One time, my ex called me a treesh, and I didn't know what that was.

[Brookie]

Such a good word.

[Camilla Woo]

I love the word treesh. It's such a.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, it's. Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, she's.

[Tana Mongeau]

He was like, you're just a fucking tree. And I was like, I'm a tree.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, that one's a bit more, like. It's more, like, impactful. Like, if you're called a tree.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, but, like, oh, I was being a tree.

[Camilla Woo]

But, like, oh, she's just a bop.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, yeah, like, pop to the top, right?

[Camilla Woo]

Like, there's so much to do. I love that. I really like it's a house. I mean, that would be funny too, but, like, also great. Bop House.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

Take it how you want it. Not a lot of people just hearing it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I want to go there. I feel like Shane Dawson, when he would, like, when he was just, like, older and then would do his conspiracy theories and, like, show up and, like. Like, it's what I'm doing. I'm Shane Dawsoning, but I'm like, I want to go to the Bob House.

[Camilla Woo]

You will. Every. You will. You need to come to the Bob.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm just so excited, and I'm about to be in my.

[Camilla Woo]

Y'all are both overdue for one, a Miami experience, and two, the Bop House Miami Experience.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I'm so excited. And I'm excited for sober Miami. I'm excited for you to, like, so.

[Camilla Woo]

Miami Bop House Yacht experience doesn't get better.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's going to be great. And this once again, I know we already said it, and I said it earlier, but I just want to say it again. Just everyone's situation is different. This is not glamorizing or telling anyone to do anything. You know, you gotta make your own decisions with that and try all the things.

[Camilla Woo]

And this is a very unique. It's a very, very, very unique experience. Do not just think that, oh, because we do that, you need to go make one, and it's gonna end up like this. No, what we don't do is broadcast the horrible things that happen. You know, we are following.

[Tana Mongeau]

We were broke.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, we have stalkers. We have.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's where my main stalker comes to.

[Camilla Woo]

He shattered the back door. He posted pictures of him, literally. Can I say this? Is this okay? Okay. Of him, like, masturbating like, on our things, like, he put. Like, he. Yeah, like, he went on and was messaging us, like, dick pics while he was breaking into the house. Very vulgar things.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's exactly what my guy would do to, like, show send photos of him in my backyard.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, that's is fucking horrifying. And I think that. No, we don't talk about these things, and maybe, honestly, maybe we should. I think it's important.

[Tana Mongeau]

I think it's important to be so transparent about the full spectrum of what it is.

[Camilla Woo]

It is. It is. You know what the sad thing is, too, is, like, because we're in sex work, not even. We are in sex work. And, like, because we are in this industry, we tolerate a lot of shit because that's almost what we deem to, like, be expected, right? Like, yeah, I do.

[Tana Mongeau]

There are downsides.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, I do tolerate men saying about me to my face and being like, you know, like, just the most vulgar. And we're like, you know what? Like, I'm not gonna sit here and pick a fight with you because I. It's almost like I chose this, so I'm just gonna let it.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is. You have to kind of, unfortunately, societally eat it. And it's something that, you know, you're forsaking for the bag. It's the amount of people have said to me or grabbed me or touched.

[Camilla Woo]

Me or whatever, I can't imagine. To your boyfriend.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, I know. It's. Oh, my God. I have guys come up to him all the time and, like, dap him up and be like, how? And it's a nice tit you got.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I. Me, personally, like.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, I know you use that hand to jack off. Right? Like, you know, and it does make.

[Camilla Woo]

Me uncomfortable, and it would make any woman uncomfortable, even if it's a guy you previously slept with that knows your boyfriend. And then it's like. Like, that's an uncomfortable situation, but we post it to make money. So it's like, yeah, our world is. There are parts of our world that are really nice and glamorous and, yeah, we can buy the cars we want. We can buy the house we can provide for people. And yes, it's amazing and great, but there are things that we just don't talk about that are horrifying. They're disgusting. And to be very honest with you, like, I would not want my daughter to do it. I wouldn't.

[Tana Mongeau]

And I think that's. I wouldn't like a powerful thing to say as well, because you're like, hey, I'm doing This. And I love this. But it's not. That is you directly saying it's not. For everyone else.

[Camilla Woo]

It's not. And I. And I would hope. And a part of me fears even just being a woman, Like, a part of me fears having a daughter. Like, I say it all the time, not that I don't want a daughter. I don't want her to go through the horrible things that some women have to go through. Not all, but some women have to go through. So me doing this to try and set myself up for my kids, you don't think I know that I'm gonna have backlash when they could figure out what mom did does if she's still doing it at the time? Hopefully not. But maybe, like, I'm setting myself up to try and provide a better life that I didn't have.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. So it's like same. I feel you.

[Camilla Woo]

So it's like, I know what I'm doing. I know the backlash I'm gonna have, and I fear that it will have more of an impact on my daughter than it would if I had a son. That's just how I personally feel about it.

[Tana Mongeau]

That's the thing. We were talking about this. It's like you raised the son to not be bad to the world. You raised the daughter to protect herself from the world, you know?

[Camilla Woo]

And it's like, yeah, 100%.

[Tana Mongeau]

It is just very, very wild.

[Camilla Woo]

And I feel like I would be such a different moment to a girl than I would to a guy right now. I can say that right now. That'll probably change. And every. Your world flips upside down when you have kids in the best way possible.

[Tana Mongeau]

Way more helicopter. With a daughter, though.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, I would just be, I think, an overbearing mother. Like, I would be just the fucking, like, bitch mom to a daughter. Because, like, what the fuck do you mean you're gonna. No, you're not going anywhere. Like, the fuck do you mean you're going out? You went on. Met the. No, you're not going on no dates. You're 17. Like, my daughter was 17 trying to go on a date. Like, I'd grab her the neck, tie her up. Like, no, no, that's not about. Like, I tie her to the bed and be like, you're not going anywhere.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like, no. And it's so. But then it's like, so scary because it's like, those are the kids that end up being.

[Camilla Woo]

And I was never like that. My mom let me do whatever the I wanted.

[Tana Mongeau]

Me too.

[Brookie]

But because of that, I didn't Want to do anything bad?

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah, I totally get you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Psychological warfare. Being a parent.

[Camilla Woo]

Why is it that I want to be like I'm sheltered. Like you are not doing anything.

[Tana Mongeau]

No, because the world is so scary.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, oh my God.

[Tana Mongeau]

Because the world is so fucking scary, dude. I mean it's. As you get older too you just realize like, I mean we always fucking say this but it's like your parents are just fucking people trying to navigate this shit.

[Camilla Woo]

Can we talk about how that is the craziest experience to go through is when your mind like it's almost like a day and night click of you've outgrown your parents. Parents.

[Tana Mongeau]

We.

[Brookie]

I literally said this on the last episode. Like you literally outgrow your parents. It's the strangest thing, the weirdest feeling.

[Tana Mongeau]

Well, and just because society is moving so fast and well, just because our.

[Brookie]

Experience is so different in life was.

[Camilla Woo]

So different from their world.

[Tana Mongeau]

This will never happen again as well though like once like Malibu Barbie Paytas is a mom and she has a kid. They will fully be in the technology. The world is up place like, but.

[Brookie]

There will be something that they have have that we didn't.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes. I wonder if it'll ever be that.

[Camilla Woo]

Baby of the generation.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like our grandparents were using rotary phones, you know, like it is insane. The technological and just societal difference. Like imagine explaining hinge to them. Imagine explaining.

[Brookie]

My grandma would have loved it.

[Camilla Woo]

True.

[Tana Mongeau]

Like it's a door dash. Like it's just it only I don't know. It's so wild.

[Camilla Woo]

Like in my. Exactly. The day that I couldn't ask not ask my parents for advice, but they didn't understand what I was doing anymore was the day that I. It was crazy. I say it all the time. I have to choose a relationship with my parents. Yeah, that was when I knew, okay, I have to wake up every day and choose to have a relationship with you because I do not need you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, Anna, you might feel like they don't understand you. So it's like a hard thing. Especially with fame as well and money and all of those things, you know, 100%.

[Camilla Woo]

And it's like what I love about it the most is like my mom and my parents wanna know everything. So I'll call them on a day to day basis and keep them updated. And I choose every day to keep them in the loop about everything I'm doing. I recently we just put an offer for a house and we got accepted. Like buying my first house. That is something that my parents like. As a parent you probably Always dream of your kid buying their first house and, like, they didn't do it until.

[Tana Mongeau]

And the fact that they're so supportive and amazing is awesome.

[Camilla Woo]

My mom is the most.

[Tana Mongeau]

It shows, though, in your emotional maturity as well.

[Camilla Woo]

My dad is the. He is that guy. Let me tell you.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's the other thing. Like, girls with of do have good parents.

[Camilla Woo]

I do have a dad. He's fucking incredible. He is that man. Let me tell you. Got this man a new seven years, a fucking red, cherry red Corvette. Like, this man is in his.

[Tana Mongeau]

Wait, like, I'll be your dad.

[Camilla Woo]

He looks great. He's, like, going to the gym. I recently retired them, so they're, like, thriving on a new level. I'm like, this right here is what I literally live for and what you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Were put on this earth to do.

[Camilla Woo]

Oh, my God, that brings me so much joy because it's like, I never got. It's like watching my parents live again. It's the crazy thing ever. It is so.

[Tana Mongeau]

It's so cute.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, it's just like, oh, like, you know what? Like, you go and drive with the top down and go get, like, overly expensive steak for no reason.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah, you go and do that.

[Camilla Woo]

You go and make a dumbass purchase because you couldn't before. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that makes me so happy, though. I love seeing this, like, side of you. And you are just a softy, sweetie.

[Camilla Woo]

I really am. Like, to the people, like, even, like, with Julia, like, we. We have to do a podcast of me and Julia is like, lure. Like, we don't be the back.

[Tana Mongeau]

I can't wait for that too. Like, honest. Yeah, leave. Ask Trina wherever the she is.

[Camilla Woo]

Maybe you'll come on my podcast and we'll, like, just do like, a whole, like, lure backstory.

[Tana Mongeau]

Let's do it.

[Camilla Woo]

Of how Tana got to where Tana is and where me and Julie got.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes, I would love to. I think even just that you have the power too, to where you're bringing all of your friends into this.

[Camilla Woo]

And, like, and I think I've been over many times by the people that I've tried bringing into my world and that they just honestly weren't meant for it. But, like, Julia was like, the last friend that I have from back home. Like, the. When I say, I mean, like, she was one of, like, the OG friends that I was. Like, I have these, like, fantasies in my head when I started doing this.

[Tana Mongeau]

Bringing all your friends.

[Camilla Woo]

I envisioned all of my friends being there, whether they were in the industry as far as social media or not like I always envisioned them just being there to, like, let's praise each other and, like, our own successes. And the last resort was like, Julia's. Julia's life story is just a very impactful story, so I'll let her tell it. But, like, bringing her into my world, like, and watching her flourish in her way, I almost, like, it was like a segue. And then it was like she was chosen by the people. Literally. Like, people were like, oh, my God, something about her I love. And then it was just like, us.

[Tana Mongeau]

Kinda, you know, it's like, it's such a cute story.

[Camilla Woo]

It's adorable. Like, that's what I live for. It's like, yeah, money is great, but, like, what the fuck does it matter?

[Tana Mongeau]

It's also like you saying, it's funny. We've been talking about advice we would, like, wanna give our younger selves a lot lately. It's been this whole thing. But, like, one of the things I thought about yesterday was like. And even advice I would give you right now at 22 is like, you think all these things are going to be forever, and they. They might not be. And as you even. You're already experiencing this, getting older and realizing these things are chapters. And I hope you're just so present in the moment. And this bop house there might be. You know, look at the hype house they thought they'd be forever. And then Charlie and Addison, all them would be together. And then, you know what I mean, it blew up in flames. And like, whatever. Like, just really be so present in this moment because what you're doing is so special and everyone's trying to recreate it and you are the 100.

[Camilla Woo]

Like, that's my biggest flaw.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah. And it's hard. You. You just start going fast, especially when you're young and all this is coming at you. But, like, just know that this is so special and that your story is so one of a billion. And I just be as present as you can be and be like, this might all be different tomorrow.

[Camilla Woo]

I know. And that's.

[Tana Mongeau]

And that's what your 20s is for everyone. You think the friends you're gonna have or the person you're dating is forever.

[Camilla Woo]

And then it's like the worst and best drug ever. It's like, I'm always, like, chasing that next guy. Like, it's like a new viral thing, but it's like, I just genuinely Forget, bro. I'm 22, living with one of my, like, best friends. And we need to do, like, this is something that. Yeah, I Don't go out. I don't literally do anything that a 20 regular or most 22 year olds are doing in Miami. Right? And it's like a lot of the.

[Tana Mongeau]

Time it's good and bad though.

[Camilla Woo]

Julia is like the other side. She's like, we need to go out. We need to like, even my live and just be. He's like, we need to do these things. And I'm like, no, but we could be doing this. We could be. And I'm. I need to enjoy it because I know I'll regret it.

[Tana Mongeau]

I'm just like you though. And I think this world, there are certain types of people where you like get in this world and it's. You start seeing those numbers and then you're chasing the next thing and whatever. And even I, like, I found my. Myself holding a failed convention or having a fake live stream marriage because I'm so lost in chasing that next thing. And in reality, people love you for you, you know? And even an episode of you guys just on the couch is your next Ash Trevino episode. It is your next moment, you know? And yeah, I just, I. I think.

[Camilla Woo]

That'S so valuable because I think obviously hearing it from people that I watch. Right? Like, of course I've watched you guys. I've seen the Journey of Tana, but been a fan. Okay. OG and so it's like hearing that from someone that's been doing it is. It's impactful for sure. And I think that I do need to focus on. Okay, this is happening right now.

[Tana Mongeau]

You will get those numbers regardless because you are. You like, you are.

[Camilla Woo]

Yeah. TR. We love you.

[Tana Mongeau]

Stop. Guys, we love you so much. I think. I think we had a successful.

[Camilla Woo]

I think this was great.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yeah.

[Camilla Woo]

This is the first time I've spoken in, in general about like someone being interested in my story. Right. Because when you talk about other people's stories, you don't. I don't get to throw in my personality in two cents. So y'all got the first.

[Tana Mongeau]

And you are so my virginity. You are so much more than just the beefs. And I almost wish people did that for me. I think that's why my whole tune changed in today's episode. Originally it was like, yes, come give us the tea on these major things. But then you sit down and I just see so much of myself in you. I don't know why, like, I'm so drawn to you and I'm like this. You are so much more than just thanks, guys. You know what I mean? Like the moments and you're gonna have a very long, big, successful, Mrs. Beast career.

[Camilla Woo]

And yes.

[Tana Mongeau]

Yes.

[Camilla Woo]

Changing lives. And I hope that when you do see that first YouTube video where, like, the house where I buy someone a house, and they change your life, I hope. Realist. And they're like, yes, I will be. Yeah.

[Tana Mongeau]

As a matter of fact, I'm just. No, I'm always here. Just. I love you guys. I'm supporting you.

[Brookie]

Thank you for coming on.

[Tana Mongeau]

Thank you for coming on the K Food podcast.

[Camilla Woo]

I love you guys. This is incredible. Thank God.