Bill Belichick, Super Bowl Gummies, and Hot Sports Takes | with Adam Schein

Summary

Podcast Summary: Casuals with Katie Nolan

Episode: Bill Belichick, Super Bowl Gummies, and Hot Sports Takes | with Adam Schein
Date: January 29, 2026
Host: Katie Nolan
Guest: Adam Schein (Mad Dog Sports Radio)

---

Overview

This lively episode of Casuals with Katie Nolan features veteran sports broadcaster Adam Schein ahead of Super Bowl week. Together, they dissect NFL coaching drama (especially the Hall of Fame Belichick snub), reminisce about playoff heartbreaks, predict Super Bowl outcomes, discuss edible-fueled travel tales, and play a raucous new game of "Take It or Leave It." The episode highlights the spirit of Casuals: sports talk for fans at every level—fun, honest, irreverent, and accessible.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Housekeeping and Emails (07:36–19:00)

• Fenway Park tips: Katie suggests fans get sausage & peppers outside Fenway, visit Cask ‘n Flagon and Bleacher Bar, and enjoy the stadium's old-school magic ([08:33]).
• Survivor shoutout: Past contestant Sophie Segretti ("Yellow Sophie") writes in; Katie fangirls and pledges to rewatch ([12:31]).
• Australian English lessons: Chris, the master editor from Australia, amends his use of "rugby," and explains “rooting” means sex down under ([17:07]):

  "In Australia, ‘rooting’ means sex… That’s why we say 'barrack for the Patriots.'" —Chris ([17:49])

2. Adam Schein Joins: Hall of Fame Outrage & Belichick Discussion (23:43–37:10)

• Belichick’s Hall of Fame 'Snub': Adam and Katie are appalled at reports that Bill Belichick won’t be a first-ballot Hall of Famer due to "personal feelings" and the Spygate fallout:

  “Bill Belichick, to me, is the single greatest coach in the history of North American professional sports.” —Adam Schein ([26:47]) “If you didn't vote for Belichick, you need to lose your vote, because clearly it wasn’t based on results.” —Adam Schein ([29:45])

• Voting transparency: Both emphasize that voters should be publicly accountable:

  “If you want a clandestine approach, give up your vote.” —Adam Schein ([29:45])

• Spygate/Deflategate fatigue: Both dismiss these “scandals” as overblown:

  “Deflategate was a uniform violation, $25,000 fine, and just move on.”—Adam Schein ([31:09])

3. Super Bowl Anticipation & Patriots Talk (37:12–42:41)

• Katie is both anxious and excited for her Patriots’ surprising return to the Super Bowl. Adam: “It’s a charmed, awesome run… I still don’t believe in the Patriots, but I respect the hell out of who Vrabel is.” ([41:12])
• The duo recall Super Bowl heartbreaks, notably the helmet catch and the Patriots’ losses to the Giants:

  "In moment, the helmet catch—I was in New York, surrounded by Giants fans. I was upset." —Katie ([43:34])

4. Super Bowl Travel, Edible Gummies, and Mad Dog Stories (44:38–47:05)

• Katie and Adam recount their plans to travel to San Francisco on Mad Dog Russo’s private plane, including the show tradition of splitting edibles ("gummies") en route:

  “I split a gummy with Dog. I feel like that’s the equivalent of having a hot dog with Babe Ruth.” —Adam Schein ([45:17]) “I can’t wait to see him cut the gummy in half with a butter knife.” —Katie ([45:55])

• Katie brings a hiccup-curing straw for Mad Dog, revealing a wholesome side to her sports travel rituals.

5. NFL Coaching Carousel & Hiring Trends (47:30–55:33)

• Adam breaks down this season’s head coach firings and hires, e.g., McDermott’s exit in Buffalo, Tomlin leaving Pittsburgh, and the surprising steadiness of McCarthy.

  “The Steelers, to me, made a decision… they could still be really good. Mike [McCarthy] loves Pittsburgh.” —Adam Schein ([51:56])

• Joe Brady as Bills head coach: "He’s not Sean McDermott. That’s a positive." —Adam Schein ([54:45])

6. Accessibility and New Fan Challenges (56:10–59:09)

• The struggle for new fans to distinguish between LA Rams/Chargers due to similar colors and the confusion with streaming/replays is highlighted by Isabella’s experience:

  “The LA teams having similar color schemes—don’t like it. I could see it being very confusing for a new fan.” —Katie ([57:01])

7. Sports Parenting & Fan Identity (59:09–62:51)

• Adam and Katie riff about raising sports-obsessed kids, how suffering builds fandom, and the cyclical nature of being a Boston (or New York) fan.

  "You were Theo. When I was your age, it was torturous... Yankees fans were the worst." —Katie ([60:14])

8. Pro Bowl & All-Star Game Irrelevance (63:14–66:50)

• Both declare the Pro Bowl “dead”—players and fans no longer care, and the skills events are random at best.

  “The Pro Bowl is dead. I don’t even know who’s in it.” —Adam Schein ([65:03]) “All-Star games are dead—except maybe for baseball.” —Katie ([65:19])

• Both advocate for wild challenges: “I'd rather see them play dodgeball or capture the flag.” —Katie ([66:10])

9. Call-in Culture and Why They Love Radio (67:05–68:56)

• Katie and Adam extol the value of taking fan calls, maintaining that it keeps hosts sharp and connected to real sports passion.

  “Taking phone calls, interacting with people—there’s an art to it. You’re great at it.” —Adam Schein ([67:21]) “Once I came back to sports as a fan, I reconnected. I do feel strongly about it, and this is a direction sports can go.” —Katie ([68:36])

10. Sports Obsession, Content, and Staying Energized (68:56–71:10)

• Adam shares how he maintains his enthusiasm after 21 years:

  “I love the cadence of the week… I love connections with people. I try not to take myself too seriously, but I take the job seriously and it’s fun.” —Adam Schein ([68:56])

11. Super Bowl Conspiracy Theories and Modern Sports Paranoia (71:13–74:49)

• Discussion of conspiracy theories that the NFL "rigged" the Super Bowl match-up, sparked by the league’s graphic showing Darnold and May near the stadium:

  "People really believe that? That’s a sad state of affairs..." —Adam Schein ([73:58]) "Now you see a blue check, and it actually means nothing." —Katie ([74:30])

12. AI and Sports Media (75:10–77:32)

• Both lampoon ChatGPT’s (AI) inability to reliably produce good sports takes:

  “AI has a lot of work to do to catch up to Adam Schein.” —Katie ([75:34])

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bill Belichick’s Hall of Fame exclusion
  "OJ is in the Hall of Fame. He murdered people. What are we talking about here?”
  —Adam Schein ([27:13])
• On transparency in sports voting
  “If you want a clandestine approach, give up your vote.”—Adam Schein ([29:45])
• On the Patriots’ charmed Super Bowl run
  “This is a remarkable story when you look at the 2025 New England Patriots.”
  —Adam Schein ([41:35])
• Super Bowl heartbreak
  “[The helmet catch]—I was surrounded by New York fans ... I was upset.”
  —Katie ([43:34])
• On splitting edibles with Mad Dog
  “That’s the equivalent of having a hot dog with Babe Ruth.”
  —Adam Schein ([45:17])
• On the state of the Pro Bowl
  "The Pro Bowl’s dead. I didn't even know it was Tuesday this year. I don't know who's in the Pro Bowl.”
  —Adam Schein ([65:03])
• AI’s place in sports
  “AI has a lot of work to do, you know, to catch up.”
  —Adam Schein ([75:34])

---

"Take It or Leave It" Game (77:38–84:33, Select Timestamps)

New segment where Adam picks sports takes and decides to “Take” or “Leave” them, explaining his stance:

• Conference championships at neutral sites:
  “Leave it. Worst take ever.” ([78:04])
• Mike McCarthy will win a Super Bowl as Steelers coach:
  “I'm going to take it.” ([79:07])
• NBA dunk contest is dead:
  “Oh, yeah, it’s dead. It’s sad…” ([80:23])
• Lane Kiffin exemplary head coach:
  "I'm going to leave this. He Kiffin’d the whole thing…” ([81:07])
• Mike McDaniel will be an NFL head coach again:
  "Yeah, this is going to happen. Needs to fix the cold-weather thing…" ([82:14])

---

Birthday Celebration & Listener Tributes (90:51–98:48)

• The Casuals production team surprises Katie with an audio montage of birthday voicemails from listeners across the country.

  "As a woman, I don't always feel welcome in sports spaces, so I'm glad you have this space for people like me." —Listener ([91:31]) "Listening to Casuals is one of the highlights of my week..." —Listener ([93:35])

• Katie is moved and emotional:

  "I love you, and I do mean it... I don’t have the words to express how grateful that all makes me feel.” —Katie ([98:51])

---

Important Timestamps

• Belichick discussion: [26:43–37:10]
• Super Bowl nerves & heartbreak: [37:12–43:56]
• Travel/gummies/Mad Dog: [44:38–47:05]
• NFL coaching carousel: [47:30–55:33]
• Fan experience & accessibility: [56:10–59:09]
• Sports parenthood: [59:09–62:51]
• Pro Bowl/All-Star game death: [63:14–66:50]
• Game: Take It or Leave It: [77:38–84:33]
• Birthday messages & wrap up: [90:51–98:51]

---

Tone and Style

This episode was quintessential Casuals: warm, hilarious, unpretentious, and deeply knowledgeable but never intimidating. Katie’s self-deprecating humor and Adam’s energetic, passionate style keep the energy high. Listener voices are central, reinforcing a safe, all-are-welcome space—especially for those new to sports.

---

For New Listeners

Even if you’ve never followed the NFL, this episode can:

• Teach you about recent sports controversies without yelling or gatekeeping,
• Offer fun sports culture stories (travel misadventures, inside radio, edible gummies),
• Provide a model of how to approach hot takes with humor and humility,
• Showcase the warmth of sports community—on and off the field.

Miss the episode? This summary covers all the substance, laughs, and heart.

---

Transcript

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, I don't know what it is about the world now, but finding clothes that look good and actually also feel good is such a challenge. And that is where Vuori comes in. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes that move with you from lounging at home to layering up for a chilly commute. It's effortless, elevated style that you will actually want to live in. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential wide leg pant are made with Vuori's signature Dream Knit fabric. It is their softest premium stretch material. Lightweight, it's moisture wicking and it's effortless to wear anywhere. Add the Restore oversized hoodie for an easy, pulled together look. I wore my Restore oversized hoodie to work the other day and everybody was like, I love that hoodie. It's an investment in your happiness. For our listeners, they're offering 20% off of your first purchase. So get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the [e-mail] Casuals v u o r-I.com Casuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. This message is brought to you by Cottonelle. Cottonelle leaves you feeling so clean, you'll want to come clean about everything else. Like the fact that your home gym is actually just where you keep your laundry. Your booty deserves the best. And the Cottonelle toilet paper and flushable wipes duo use cleaning ripples to clean better and leave you feeling comfortably dry. It's the clean that makes you finally admit you still own a pair of cargo shorts you claim are vintage. Come clean with Cottonelle. Hey, Isabella, did you see that? A kangaroo. Two kangaroos, in fact, interrupted a cycling race on the UCI World Tour. Did they join the race? They knocked a guy off his bike. Aw. Didn't something like this happen? Not with a kangaroo, but something. Another animal. Are you suggesting that Chris finds a very specific type of story to use as our cold open and that this one closely mirrors another story? Listen, if an animal's gonna interrupt a sporting event, you're gonna hear about it in the cold open of casuals. Yeah, but the guy went on to win. He got knocked off his bike by a kangaroo, and then he. And then he won. Yeah. So the other contestants have no excuses. That's right. How are you guys? How far behind were you? That's crazy. No biggie. If an Australian cyclist gets knocked off his bike by a kangaroo and then wins, is that collusion? Do you think that they. Did they work together? I think reasonably. We do need to investigate. Hello. And welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that really doesn't think you need to know anything to love sports. You can just love it. It's not about information, it's about feeling. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Joined today here briefly at the top by my casualties. But Brady took the week before the super bowl off, so he's not here. But our sports newbie, Isabella is here. Hello. And we've got Chris, our master editor. G'. Day. Who has stepped in. G'. Day. Who has stepped in in Brady's absence. He'll be back right in time for the.

[Chris]

I hope so.

[Katie Nolan]

We hope you're having fun wherever you are, Brady, doing whatever you're doing with whoever you're doing it with. Great guest today, you guys. It's a Thursday casual, so I hang out with a guest. We got somebody in house today. Adam Sche. You may know from Mad Dog Sports radio. He has hosted Shine on Sports for 21 years. You also might know him from, from CBS. He does the. This season they had him doing those check ins on Sundays to let you know what was going on in other games around the league. So you could know him from that or you know him from just. I mean, the guy's been talking about sports professionally for a very long time. He hosts the show right before fan service on Mad Dog. He's become good friends with Isabella because of those three minutes we spend together. It's. He's a wonderful guy. He's here to give his sports takes, mostly super bowl and football stuff. And we're gonna, we're playing a new game with him called take it or leave it. So all of that coming up in just a little bit. But first we gotta do some housekeeping, answer some emails and then we'll get into that. Sound good? Don't forget, if you have a question or no stupid questions, don't ever feel dumb asking us anything. We are a podcast for you casual sports fans. So if there's anything you're not understanding that you need explained or if there's something that you're like, what is that? Casualswithkatienolanmail.com Our voicemail box is 646-801-0043. I always say save that in your phone, save it as casuals. And then when a thought occurs to you, boom, call, leave a voicemail and we'll play it on the show. Our IG and TikTok. We are at Casualsthepodcast. Anything, anything we missed, anything you wanna know what we think about it. Send it over to us. We always check that thing one somebody does. Chris, is it you?

[Chris]

It is me.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, okay. And we're gonna get to some of those emails in just a second. A quick bit of housekeeping. One friend of the show, friend of mine, Jess Smitana, who came in back in the old studio, so that had to be months ago, I guess she got engaged.

[Chris]

Oh, congratulations.

[Katie Nolan]

I saw her at least publicly announce it to Mike Gook Jr. On their podcast that they do about Notre Dame football. And very funny, because I believe the first person I told professionally on their podcast was Mike Gulch Jr. So that seems to be a trend. So, ladies, if you get engaged, book an appearance on Mike Golick Jr's podcast. And that's where you can tell the world. She looks so happy. I just love. I love love, and I love it. And then another bit of housekeeping. Chris, this was. You got the viewership numbers on the. On the. Alex Hunold climbing up that tower in Taipei did.

[Chris]

Because we sort of questioned at the end of Tuesday's episode how much money this guy should be demanding for accomplishing these feats, considering we don't know what the popularity of just climbing tall things is. He had 6.2 million live views for. For the event, which isn't bad. It was the third most viewed TV program for the week of January 19th.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so it could be a lot worse.

[Chris]

Yeah. And considering it got delayed a day, I'm sure that must have impacted some numbers as well. So maybe that would have gone into the 7. 8 million mark had he stayed with the original the day.

[Katie Nolan]

If he just sucked it up and climbed in the pouring rain. If he just got over it and braved the elements.

[Chris]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Slid up a building with no help from a rope. I don't know what in the fuck but cool that he did it. I saw a lot of people go, like, why would I tune into this? What if he dies? They were on a delay, an important.

[Chris]

And they made sure to tell you that, which is comforting. Like, okay, if he dies, at least I don't get to see it.

[Katie Nolan]

Right, Right. So they did let you know. And also, imagine being the person who's got a pull who has to react within five seconds to the death of the guy and getting it off of the live stream to have to, like, in that moment, instead of going like, that person has to go like, dump it. Hit the dump button. Oh, God. It's crazy. It's craz. But luckily, that didn't happen. And this guy climbed a build. I don't understand this. I'm impressed by it. While also I want to make sure not to encourage it. Please don't try to scale the side of a building with just a little bit of chalk. You know, please don't do this anymore. Is that okay to say?

[Chris]

I think that's good advice.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's take a look at some emails we got this year. Chris, let's start with Rob. This year? Did I say this year?

[Chris]

You did say this year and we did get it this year.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, but I meant this week. Let's start with Rob.

[Chris]

Rob says hello. All in caps. Katie and the casualties. First time writer, longtime listener at the time of writing this. Baseball is still two months away, but today my wife and I planned our last vacation before becoming parents. That's exciting. My wife decided she wanted to see our San Diego Padres play the Socks at Fenway. So I figured who better to ask for must dos than our favorite Bostonian, Katie? My wife loves baseball and the show, so a shout out to Ali, my lovely wife, who would absolutely. It would absolutely make her day. She loves the history of the game and Fenway has always been on her list of dream destinations. So I booked us a tour of the park and seats behind the first baseline in the shade. Aside from the park itself and the tour, what else would you recommend? First timers at Fenway? Absolutely do.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Rob and Ally shout out, congrats on the baby and good luck on the trip. I haven't, I mean, look, I haven't been like around the Boston area in a while and I'm sure a lot of stuff has changed, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I would say must do is on. What is it called now? What is it called? It's not Yawkey Way. They name it Jersey. Jersey. Jersey way.

[Chris]

Jersey something.

[Katie Nolan]

There's a sausage and peppers, like vendor out there. Or maybe you could find one on Lansdowne Street. That's. You gotta get a sausage and peppers on your way in. Like that's a must. Cause inside the stadium, I don't know, they're not as good. I don't know. Why take it. Argue with your mom. The other thing I would say, you gotta go to the Caskin Flagon. It's a bar right across the street from Fenway. You could go to. Is it baseball? No, not Baseball Tavern. The one that's got Bleacher Bar. You could go there. They have a big glass thing that looks out onto the field. So, like before the game you can go and watch Them. I mean, you're doing the tour, so it probably doesn't make sense. But I do always tell people to go there because it's. It's cool to be outside of the stadium, but be able to look directly inside of the stadium. That kind of stuff is very. In my wheelhouse. That's my bag, baby. I love that. And then I would say just like, yeah, it's mostly food and drinking based, so I just.

[Chris]

I don't know how much drinking she will be able to do.

[Katie Nolan]

Right, right, right. Because you can't just leave the baby at home that you're expecting.

[Chris]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm saying it's in her, so she's gotta bring it with her. It's not like a. You can't book a sitter.

[Chris]

You can't separate those two things.

[Katie Nolan]

Unfortunately. I watched a movie, a terrible movie on the plane where the concept was that you could do that, that you could separate concept leave the. The baby would happen outside of you and you had to just would like unburden the mother from having to. Yep. Very much like a plant. It's actually a thing they brought. It was. I. I finished the movie and I was like, maybe the worst thing I've ever seen.

[Chris]

It sounds.

[Katie Nolan]

It was brutal. The end made no sense. But let's not even look up what it's called. Yeah. Just spend time around the park. I mean, that's the, the best. I would tell you to go to the White Horse Tavern where I used to work. It has unfortunately closed. The avenue might still be open. That's a burger place in Austin that I also used to work at. But also entirely possible that that's closed. So most of the stuff I would recommend is kind of gone. But if you spend time in the area, I'm sure you'll bump into. Just get sausage and peppers before you go into the game. And then in the game, get a Fenway Frank. That's the, the. That's the move. I know. That's two hot dog, like food items. You just gotta prepare for that. Take whatever tums you've gotta before you get there, prepare for that because that's what you'll be eating. And get a thing in a little helmet. You know, you gotta get the little ice cream in a helmet, right? Yeah, that sounds cute. Yeah. See, Isabella's in also. I've been on the Fenway tour and it's nice. You have? I really liked it.

[Chris]

So have I.

[Katie Nolan]

You have. And so you can. Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

One of the recent times I went to Boston, I was like, let's go on the Tour de Fenway. This is maybe like a year ago or something or a little bit before that. And then they bring you to the. You sit right by. What is it? The Green Monster. Yeah. That's cool. Take a picture by that. Yeah, I signed inside of it. But I. I have a theory that they must like paint over and then let people sign again because it'd be good. Too much space. Yeah. There's no way that that's all the signatures that have ever been inside of the Green Monster. It's the oldest ballpark in the world. But yeah, have fun, man. Fenway, the magic. There is something else. It's like you walk in and you're like, this is old. And have a good time, Enjoy it. And go. Socks. Sorry. Let's go to. We've got an email now from Sophie. Chris.

[Chris]

Yes. Sophie says hi. Katie and the casualties. 1. Love you mean it. 2. Hearing Katie and Isabella talk about Survivor even though neither of them watch anymore. As a Survivor contestant and fan of Casuals made my month.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Chris]

Thank you for all that you do from Sophie Segretti, AKA yellow Sophie in the Survivor universe.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. What? I'm googling this now. I know. Me too.

[Chris]

Pretty cool.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm gonna go back and watch Survivor. I've been saying I'll do it, but now I gotta watch Sophie. This is like when Sarah Gillis, the Jeopardy contestant wrote in and I was like, oh my God, stop it. That's crazy. Um, Sophie. Yellow Sophie. Huh? What's she known for? Did she do anything crazy? A shocked Sophie Segretti reveals what led to her Survivor 49 downfall.

[Chris]

Oh, I just spoiled it for her.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry, I gotta watch your episodes. She seems like she was well liked though. I think people seem to like her so good.

[Chris]

Of course she's a Casuals fan.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, right.

[Chris]

All of her fans are nice.

[Katie Nolan]

Always good people. Yeah, Every single one of them.

[Chris]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Amazing Sophie. Once we know more, we'll have more to say. But congrats on a hard fought. Congrats on eating all that rice. Are they still eating rice? That was. Season one was like the food was just rice. All you could ever eat was rice. Let's go to. We've got an email. There's surely I'm saying this wrong. We have an email from Chim Chims.

[Chris]

Chim Chims? That's what the email said. Chim Chims.

[Katie Nolan]

What's up? Chim Chims.

[Chris]

Chim Chim says hey, Katie and the Casualties. Extra shout out to Isabella, the new superstar of the pod.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Thank you.

[Chris]

And then Chim Chips also says for me to stop calling rugby league rugby. So I apologize. Chim Chims. I'm not a rugby league guy or a rugby union guy. I just call both of them rugby. They're two different codes in Australia, and they sort of have a bit of a rivalry there. I'm just an AFL guy. I just like Aussie rules, so. I didn't know that you were upsetting. People call it rugby.

[Katie Nolan]

It's crazy because you're our rugby expert. So if you don't know, wait.

[Chris]

I've watched a solid like three or four league games total in my life.

[Katie Nolan]

In life, Chris, when you say Aussie rules, are you saying these are Aussie rules? Like a rule book? Are you saying Aussie rules.

[Chris]

Aussie rules is. Is what we call afl. Is what we call Australian football.

[Katie Nolan]

It's Australian rules football. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the first one. But yes, to be clear, Ozzy does rule. Australia does.

[Chris]

Correct. We do.

[Katie Nolan]

Perfect.

[Chris]

But. So I apologize for any rugby league fans if I offended. I can't even remember when I spoke about you, but.

[Katie Nolan]

But you've upset whenever I did extra shout out to Isabella because she's the best.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

A correction to you. Did they give anything to Brady?

[Chris]

He says, Brady, no beef, but also no extra feelings.

[Katie Nolan]

There's so many.

[Chris]

You're welcome, I guess. Chim Chims continues. Love the pod. And he has a story related to dads with their son's name tattooed on them. More specifically, son's name Brooklyn.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Because we talked about David Beckham, Jay Jordan reminded us that David Beckham has his son Brooklyn's name tattooed across the small of his back.

[Chris]

Yes. So Chim Chim says one of my friends husbands has his son Brooklyn's name tatted on his chest. So point to him. That's a better location. However, negative, to him, the tattoo is spelt Brooken, not Brooklyn. So the L has been left out of the name, which obviously he didn't realize until it was on him.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, what do you do? I mean, you've gotta. What do you do? You can't try to put an L in there. Like, it's a. Like it's me writing a sign for the football team in high school. And I spell a name, and you just slide another block.

[Chris]

Oh, you put like a carrot underneath and then put the L on top.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. It's a tattoo. Including the L. Is that free? I mean, that has to be free. If you look at the tattoo and go like, buddy, you spelled it wrong.

[Chris]

Well, in the longer email, Chim Chims did explain that three times. The tattoo artist had the design and showed the father and he still didn't notice. He didn't notice. So the tattoo designer. The tattoo artist went ahead with the approved design.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, no.

[Chris]

So it really was on the dad. Brooken's father's fault. Yes. So not ideal there and then.

[Katie Nolan]

Not ideal.

[Chris]

I'd say chim chims finishes the email by saying, P.S. chris, stop being sly and tell everyone the non sports meaning of rooting in Australia already. Love you. Mean it. Remember we had the episode couple of months ago, maybe at this stage where someone emailed in and got me to give the Australian words for certain American things and vice versa.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And one of the words was rooting. And I said, well, you know, that's what we call it, barracking in Australia. So you would say rooting. We would say barracking.

[Katie Nolan]

I barrack for the Patriots.

[Chris]

And the reason why we don't say rooting, I root for the Red Sox, I root for Carlton, whatever. In Australia is because rooting means sex.

[Katie Nolan]

Really? Wait, wait, use it. Is it because of the root chakra? Like, I don't know. Yeah, right.

[Chris]

I have no idea what you're saying.

[Katie Nolan]

That was my first thought. I mean, rooting is like, I'm rooting her pretty hard right now.

[Chris]

Yes. 100%.

[Katie Nolan]

Or like, I wish I was rooting her. Like, is it like the way you're like scared to look? It's a literal.

[Chris]

More the first one.

[Katie Nolan]

It's more like we were rooting and the phone rang and I answered it and she was mad.

[Adam Schein]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. So you don't root someone. You just are rooting. It's a state that you're in.

[Chris]

Yeah. That's probably when you would use it most.

[Katie Nolan]

You wouldn't say, like, God, I'd root the shit out of her.

[Chris]

No, you would say that too. Actually, you would.

[Katie Nolan]

I'd root the shit out of him. Okay.

[Chris]

Yeah. Yeah, you would.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh.

[Chris]

So that's why we don't say, I root for the Celtics.

[Katie Nolan]

What about. I mean, do you guys pronounce it route? When a wide receiver runs a route, you must. You have to.

[Chris]

We do. We say rap.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Correct. Wow. Okay. I also think we should leave space for chim Chims to be a woman. I don't know. I know. You never really know.

[Chris]

Good point.

[Katie Nolan]

Very true. We don't have that mentioned in there, so we'll just leave it vague. Okay. Good. Emails. Can you believe we have a famous survivor star. I know, that's really cool. Really? I feel like I'm like sparkling about it. I feel really special. Okay, you know what? Here's what we're doing. We're going to take a quick break and then when we come back, we'll be joined by my dear friend Adam Schein and we're going to have a blast talking about football and then we play a little game called take it or leave it. So this is casuals and we'll be right back. When you're choosing dinner, you want to know it's worth it every time. Gorton Seafood has been providing quality seafood for the whole family since 1849. Gorton's is the easy, dependable choice that takes the stress out of mealtime and it has been for over 175 years. You know the fisherman guy in the yellow coat? Yeah, that's Gorton's. Gorton's products are great for the main meal, for snacks or for appetizers. From classics like coconut shrimp. I mean, who doesn't love coconut shrimp? To new innovative options like taco tenders. Choose Gorton's for uncompromising quality and reliable fresh taste. I love Gorton's because it's so easy. I can toss some shrimp or a filet right into my air fryer and it's ready in minutes. It feels elevated because it's seafood and honestly it reminds me of when I was a kid and my mom would make me some fish sticks after school. Visit gortons.com to learn more, find a store and get recipe inspiration. Have you ever wished you could make something happen just by thinking about it? Well, WIX may have just answered your prayers. Wix's new Harmony editor makes it so easy to create a website exactly how you imagined it that it's almost like you're just thinking out loud. Experience the New Way to Create Websites WIX Harmony is a hybrid website editor that offers the perfect blend of AI and precise drag and drop tools, introducing the world to the next generation of website creation. Switch back and forth between AI prompts and hands on editing to build the exact website you want the way you want. WIX Harmony is packed with some of the coolest, most useful AI features and agents built specifically for small businesses, including Aria, an AI agent that helps you create your website and take care of business so you don't burn out and rest easy knowing that your WIX site is backed by 99.99% uptime and enterprise grade security, no add ons required. Check it out at wix.com/harmony. Hey, I don't know what it is about the world now, but finding clothes that look good and actually also feel good is such a challenge. And that is where Vuori comes in. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes that move with you from lounging at to layering up for a chilly commute. It's effortless, elevated style that you will actually want to live in. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential Wide Leg pant are made with Viori's signature Dream Knit fabric. It is their softest premium stretch material. Lightweight, it's moisture wicking and it's effortless to wear anywhere. Add the Restore oversized hoodie for an easy pulled together look. I wore my Restore oversized hoodie to work the other day and everybody was like I love that hoodie. It's an investment in your happiness. For our listeners, they're offering 20% off of your first purchase. So get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the [e-mail] Casuals v u o r I.com Casuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. This show is sponsored by Liquid iv. All day events like Big Game Days aren't just about the opening moments. They require superior hydration from start to finish. Just one stick and 16 ounces of water hydrates better than water alone. It's powered by live hydra science, an optimized ratio of electrolytes, essential vitamins, vitamins and clinically tested nutrients that turn ordinary water into extraordinary hydration. I like knowing that Liquid IV can help me boost my hydration better than water alone. It's super easy to keep a packet or three in my purse so it's with me wherever I go. And with sugar free flavors like strawberry watermelon and rainbow sherbet, I know I will actually drink and hydrate and be ready to go and tackle the day. Show up start to finish with hydration from Liquid IV Hydration multiplier Sugar free tear. Pour live more to liquid I.com and get 20% off your first order with Casuals at checkout. That's 20% off your first order using code casualsiquidiv.com Our guest today on Casuals Our illustrious guest on our wonderful sports show is a dear friend, a co worker, a paragon of virtue in the industry. Does that feel right?

[Adam Schein]

Wow.

[Katie Nolan]

Does that feel good?

[Adam Schein]

Paragon of virtue felt right. I've been called a lot of things. First time paragon of virtue.

[Katie Nolan]

Write it down. Adam shines here. Adam who you may Know from his Shine on spot, his show that's been.

[Adam Schein]

Running for 21 years.

[Katie Nolan]

21 years.

[Adam Schein]

Been here for 21 years.

[Katie Nolan]

That's absurd. That's disgusting.

[Adam Schein]

It's wild.

[Katie Nolan]

Or you may know him from. Was this your first year doing those little check ins in the games?

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. NFL and CBS updates.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. So in the middle of the games when you'd get those like, let's go to Adam Schein on the update desk. Adam. And he would go, hey. And bring energy. I loved it.

[Adam Schein]

Lots of energy.

[Katie Nolan]

Is that fun, that gig or are you just sitting waiting for someone to throw to you?

[Adam Schein]

I was curious to see. First of all, it's great to see you. Oh, good to see you.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi. Thanks for being here.

[Adam Schein]

I am thrilled. I'm so excited. I love having you at SiriusXM, Katie. And I love the fact that I'm doing the podcast. I loved the gig and I was excited when it was presented to me and offered. I was curious to see how much fun it would actually be. Yeah, it's so fun. Really you can appreciate this because you get like 10 to 30 seconds to kind of be spontaneous and funny and smart and sometimes it's just a random standard update. Sometimes like, nope, I got this. This is going to be hilarious. Let me play this. You know, call the Chargers Savannah Bananas. I loved every single I, you know, it's done in the regular season. I loved every single second of that.

[Katie Nolan]

Are you just sitting at that desk watching all the games?

[Adam Schein]

And then it's a really cool setup they have. In essence, there are three big screen TVs. It's like the ultimate man cave.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

So it's the big TV where we're hot. Whatever game we're going to go to Jim and Tony Ian and J.J. catalon and you know, Jason McCourty, whatever it is. So I'm listening to their game and then it goes bam, bam, bam from one to the other. The other big TV is the A game for cbs, then another big TV for the B game and then all the other games, all the Fox games and the other CBS games on monster monitors in front of me. And then to the right there's a scoreboard which is actually a big thing because, you know, oftentimes we're waiting before we do an update. Is there an extra point? Is it a two point conversion? I'd like to be right when I give an update. Right. I mean the facts should be right. I loved every single second of it. I mean it was, it was really cool. And so Many people heard it and the feedback was great. And CBS loved it. And the crews were into it. The play by play guys. Jim Nance was so into it. I mean, it was the whole thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I feel like anytime anybody threw to you or came back from you, what is it caught? You don't say you caught it from you. Right.

[Adam Schein]

You could say that you could throw.

[Katie Nolan]

It, but you catch it.

[Adam Schein]

So I guess I catch it. I guess someone has to, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Whoever caught from, they would always be like. You could tell they were happier at. After having listened to your update, I thought it was fantastic.

[Adam Schein]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

And I had a blast. So that's where you may know him from, but what we're gonna make him talk about, first and foremost is obviously the big news of the day is that they voted on the hall of Fame. And a report, we don't know yet who made it in, but a report has come out that Bill Belichick not gonna make it in on the first ballot. Absurd.

[Adam Schein]

This is the dumbest thing in the history of sports.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't believe it. It's, like, hard to believe.

[Adam Schein]

Bill Belichick, to me, is the single greatest coach in the history of North American professional sports. That not just the NFL, the greatest coach in the history of North American sports. The Patriots dynasty is the greatest dynasty in the history of North American sports. You think about what they did, your team did, salary cap parity era. Nothing will ever happen like that ever again. Yeah, Belichick to me, is the go. You can take the Lombardi trophy, stick it where the sun don't shine, name it the Belichick trophy, and I would be on board with it. And what drives me nuts. And, you know, over 21 years on China Sports, Bill would come on the show, you know, after they had the undefeated regular season. He. We. I've had a solid relationship with Belichick through the years. I get it. He could be a jerk. He could be surly. None of that matters when you're voting for the hall of Fame game. It's about what you did. And for people in that room, there are 50 voters. You need 40 votes. I mean, it's absurd. It's an embarrassment burn down. Can not literally, figuratively burn it down like, it's over. The hall of Fame has no more credibility. And like, you referenced the class. Right. I can't even celebrate Larry Fitzgerald or Drew Brees or if my guy Lou Kechley gets in. I've argued forever. You know, the Niner running back Roger Craig should be in the hall of Fame. Tori Holt should be in the hall of Fame. It's now all tainted. This is a credibility issue that voters let their personal feelings. If Bill was rude to you or you didn't like certain things that, you know, happened, you know, after he was let go by the New England patriots. I mean, OJ's in the hall of Fame. He murdered people. What are we talking about here? I mean, let's go. Enough is enough is enough. I can't even believe this is a topic for conversation either.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you say to the people who think that the people who vote on the hall of Fame shouldn't be able to be anonymous? That they should have to answer for the votes that they cast.

[Adam Schein]

So I'm glad you asked that question, because I vote for the NFL awards, right? And last year, the Detroit Free Press wrote an article and named me and the other writer who didn't have Dan Campbell on their ballot fair game. That's. That's the deal.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I take this very seriously, and I should be held accountable whether it's positive or negative, right, Wrong or indifferent. Here are my votes. I put a lot of time in. I don't take myself too seriously. But when it comes to a vote for mvp, Coach of the Year, first team, All Pro, you're stamped forever. That's attached to your name. If you're gonna do an interview with an mvp, you're interviewing the mvp, not the mvp. Runner up. It matters. Hall of Famer, you get stamped HOF forever. So, yes, you need to make the votes public. That's for the Associated Press, for the awards. Our votes are public.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Adam Schein]

If you. If you want a clandestine approach, give up your vote. I also don't think it's overreaction to say if you didn't vote for Belichick, you need to lose your vote, because clearly it wasn't based on results. And the minute it's not based on results, we're all screwed. Look, I once joked that Tio was gonna be the first guy in the history of the NFL to get inducted into Canton, and no one shows up. And that turned out to be actually ahead of the curve because he didn't even show up to Canton because nobody liked him. And I thought that was the biggest snub of all time. Tio could be a jerk, but he was an all time great. No doubt about it. First ballot, hall of Famer, right? That pissed me off. This is like I'm a Bonds hall of Fame guy, Clemens hall of Fame guy, you know, Bob Kraft should be in the Hall Of Fame. Tom Brady is a first ballad. Hall of Famer.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, but they're saying if Spygate is being tossed around as the. Which, by the way, now I have to explain what that is to Isabella. That's the worst part of Isabella is that she's like, what do you guys mean? Deflategate and Spygate? And I'm like, can we not today? I don't want to have to do this today. This has taken years off my life already. Talk about these two stupid. Send me like a red and I'll catch up. Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

But by the way, Isabella, to Katie's point, these are the most overrated scandals ever.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's. And I'm a Patriots fan, so nobody wants to hear that from me. But you're not. So that it means something.

[Adam Schein]

I always felt like the flake gate was a uniform violation, $25,000 fine, and just move on.

[Katie Nolan]

I just thought it was crazy that if we have audio of a time that, like, I think it was. Aaron Rodgers was, like, in the booth during a game, and he said, well, I like to keep my ball's a little overinflated and nobody bats an eye because nobody cared about this until the Patriots got caught, quote, unquote, doing it.

[Adam Schein]

I once did a. When I was hosting NFL Monday QB on CBS Sports Network with Phil Sims and Rich Gannon, we did a whole segment. This is before the flight gate, on how quarterbacks want the football.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Like what they would say in the room to the equipment guys on how they want the football.

[Katie Nolan]

Fascinating. A great segment.

[Adam Schein]

And now, by the way, it's all of a sudden a scandal because it's New England.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

So that I. Isabella. The fact that she doesn't know. I need a homework assignment from Isabella. I need a full Isabella report on what the flake gate actually is and if.

[Katie Nolan]

And if they made the right call. That's the best thing about presenting new information to her is I can go like, were we right about this? And she can bring fresh eyes to something that we working in sports media. I mean, how sick of Deflategate were you by the end? Oh, my goodness.

[Adam Schein]

It was every constant, every day saying the same thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Having to learn how the appeals court circuit works in the United States. I was like, I don't know how.

[Adam Schein]

Any of this is.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know what this is. That was absurd, a nightmare. But if they're saying that Spygate is part of the reason they want to make Bill Belichick wait a year, how can you not then say that they want to Make Tom Brady wait a year for Deflategate. And it's like, if that's the case, if you make Tom Brady wait a year, we're going to light the place on fire. Literal. We're going to literally light the place on fire.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. And this is what I'm. This is why this whole thing is crazy. I mean, and, you know, there's always been issues with the voting process and who gets in and who doesn't in the Pro Football hall of Fame, but, you know, it's a museum. It's a celebration of greatness. If Bill Belichick isn't in on the first try, then what are we doing here? If Tom Brady's on the first try, is the greatest quarterback, greatest player who's ever played, what are we doing here? And by the way, Bob Kraft deserves it for being the owner of the Patriots. And also what he's done in terms of broadcasting for the NFL. Now I'm afraid Kraft gets in, if he gets in, it's gonna look worse and people are gonna be thrown. Right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

You can't even celebrate Bob Kraft right now.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And also, isn't it the case that, you know, somebody is appointed the position of presenting and making your case to the voters, and I believe the person that made the case for Bob Kraft this year was Bill Polian, who didn't vote for Allegedly.

[Adam Schein]

And by the way, how about the fact that he tells Don Van Nada that, you know, he doesn't remember if he actually voted? I know. Listen, this is not your lunch order three weeks ago.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. You should remember.

[Adam Schein]

Did you vote for Bill Belichick?

[Katie Nolan]

For Bill Belichick to be a first ballot hall of Famer or not, you should know. I'm 95% sure.

[Adam Schein]

He says, and by the way, you lived it. Bill Pauline did not vote for Bill Belichick. He hates Bill Belichick.

[Katie Nolan]

Logic would dictate that he did not vote for him.

[Adam Schein]

And I also think too, as someone, again, it's not the hall of Fame, but it's all the awards which matter. You know, you always want to make sure you're not the story. Right. Seriously, like, I send my ballot to few different friends of mine in the business, just like, just take a look at this.

[Katie Nolan]

That's smart. Is there a bias of my own I'm missing?

[Adam Schein]

Am I doing something wrong? Exactly. It's good to have someone who you trust, a friend to say, you know, check the work. Right. And just make sure you didn't leave. You know, Tim Ryan used to work for Sirius xm. And there was one year. I always say, I don't want to pull a Tim Ryan. He didn't put Calvin Johnson on for a first team all Pro. He was the one 49 out of 50. You don't want to pull a Tim Ryan.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Now it's. You don't want to pull a Bill Polian.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I mean that's. And it's obviously personal. It's not professional.

[Katie Nolan]

Bill Polian, hall of Famer.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. Which deserved it. He should be in the hall of Fame.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. But just if we were looking at like, I know he's not the coach. Super bowl records. I believe he's 1 in 4.

[Adam Schein]

Also nailed it on Lamar Jackson, didn't he?

[Katie Nolan]

Ay Yai yai. He told Lamar Jackson he should become a wide receiver before coming into the league because he didn't have the skill set to be a quarterback. And he said, don't waste time. Don't waste time. Just be a wide receiver. Let's not. It's good advice, terrible advice.

[Adam Schein]

Bill Polian, bad life coach. I mean, truly horrendous and voter, apparently.

[Katie Nolan]

Truly horrendous. And just I can't believe, I cannot imagine he's doing a lot of press about this. I don't think he's coming to the front and talking about.

[Adam Schein]

And he told SI 100% voted for him.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Then he told Don Van Nada that he couldn't remember Nada in terms of the like happened.

[Katie Nolan]

And this is alleged, alleged, alleged sprinkling. I feel like he thought the article that was written by DVN and Seth Wickersham, he thought that that alleged that he had voted against it. Him. It didn't. It said, we don't know how he voted, but he was one of the voices that raised the concern that maybe he should wait a year because of Spygate. And so they didn't say how he voted. And so I think at first Bill Polian came out and was like, that report is false. That is not the way my vote went. And they were like, we didn't say how your vote went. So then people started reporting that he did vote for him. And then I think he went, I'm 95% sure I did. I don't know. The whole thing's a mess. And I'm just shocked by it. I'm just like shocked. Now, granted, he could get in next. He will get in next year. Right.

[Adam Schein]

But I'm saddened by it. I'm angry. Like this. This genuinely pisses me off because it's wrong because we're all sports fans on whatever level. And you know what? You know, and that Patriot dynasty was special. And when you see that kind of history, let's not ruin it. Like Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, first ballot, hall of Famers. And there's nothing worse when people are like, oh, is it Belichick? Is it Brady? No, no, it's Belichick and Brady.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

And Bill was up first, and he goes in on the first ballot. And to minimize anything from that dynasty really pisses me off.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, me too. Thanks. Are you just saying that because you're here?

[Adam Schein]

Obviously.

[Katie Nolan]

Are you saying that because you're here and it's my birthday?

[Adam Schein]

Happy birthday.

[Katie Nolan]

You want to appeal? Thanks.

[Adam Schein]

By the way, how about the fact that we were talking for three minutes before in the commercial between my show and your show, and I didn't know it was your birthday? I mean, why would I.

[Katie Nolan]

Why would you know that?

[Adam Schein]

But then your producer, Sean McChesney, at three minutes of the conversation, by the way, it's Katie's birthday.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. He really should have led with it.

[Adam Schein]

Jackass. I saw you this morning. Give me a heads up. Katie's birthday. Happy birthday. I mean, it's.

[Katie Nolan]

It used to be during the week before the super bowl was my birthday. It was always, oh, yeah, of course. On my way out to the Super Bowl. And so that was fun. Getting to be at, like, sports media prom and having to be like, it's my birthday. It's my birthday today. And just farming for.

[Adam Schein]

That's a tough thing to drop into conversation.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. I know.

[Adam Schein]

How you doing it? It's my birthday.

[Katie Nolan]

Happy birthday. That's how you do it. You just go, hi, it's my birthday. Be nice to me. Hi. It's my birthday. Be nice to me. We're going out to the Super Bowl.

[Adam Schein]

I can't wait.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't wait either. I haven't been back. It's been a long time.

[Adam Schein]

When was your last Super Bowl?

[Katie Nolan]

I think it might have been Houston.

[Adam Schein]

Wow.

[Katie Nolan]

When the Patriots beat the Falcons in overtime. I think that was the last Super Bowl I, like, did my show from, which was a long time ago.

[Adam Schein]

That's a long time ago.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not recent. So I'm really excited. I'm a little anxious now because the Pats are in. It was not something I even thought about. I was like, I'll just go and cover these two teams playing for a Super Bowl. Wonder who it's gonna be. Now I'm like, well, I'm really stressed out, and I'M very anxious about this. It's a different return to the Super Bowl.

[Adam Schein]

I think it's gonna play well for you, though.

[Katie Nolan]

You think?

[Adam Schein]

I thought about that, yeah. I always make this case. The super bowl is my Super Bowl. Like, I love the week of the super bowl. And in general, I don't like to travel. I'm a homebody. You know, I love Radio row. I love being out there for the Super Bowl. I love the interviews. I love seeing people. But for you this year. And SiriusXM always does a great job and blows the whole thing up. And it's awesome for you. First time for Sirius xm, and you get that Patriot feel, I think, because that's so much part of your Persona on air. I think that's gonna be all. You're gonna be nervous, right? Are you nervous about the team getting absolutely destroyed?

[Katie Nolan]

A little. But I'm. But listen, I am also. I've been saying I didn't expect us to be here, so I am not gonna hold them to some standard that I'm like, you've gotta win the super bowl or I'm gonna be embarrassed. I don't think it would be embarrassing. I think it was. They did a lot to get here. That and a lot has worked out in their favor. It feels like this year, God's a Patriots fan. I don't know if God's allegiance has changed season to season. I know everybody thanks him after they win.

[Adam Schein]

That's right.

[Katie Nolan]

Him or her or they. Whatever you think God is. But I feel like this year there's been a lot of, like, paths being cleared in ways that I'm like, someone's looking out for us.

[Adam Schein]

By the way, I think this is a phenomenal take. And I also think that this is the only take the Patriots fans should have. First of all, if you lose the super bowl, it's not the end of the world.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Adam Schein]

Let's just want to put that out there. And I expect the Patriots to lose the Super Bowl. It's also okay to be charmed because you have a great appreciation for your. Who your coaches, who your quarterback is. Look, if you look at the wins and losses, this is the easiest strength of schedule, not on a preseason, on an actual season. Since the 99 ramps. You play the Chargers don't have their offensive tackles. You play the Texans. Stroud, obviously one of the worst games you'll ever see. They don't have Nico Collins, best receiver on the team. Schultz gets hurt, top two pass catchers. You take advantage of it. The Broncos don't have their starting quarterback, Sean Payton, who I love not kicking that field goal. Going up. Two scores, then inclement weather. No one could score. Listen, you take advantage of it. It's been a charmed awesome run. I, I still don't believe in the Patriots, but I respect I voted Mike Drama coach of the year. I respect the respect the hell out of who he is. Drake May was number two for me for mvp.

[Katie Nolan]

Fair enough. I assume Stafford.

[Adam Schein]

Stafford was number one. I. I just think this story in a year where it was Buffalo and Josh Allen. The Jags march into Denver at the end of the season. They've got the look. Broncos defense is unbelievable. No one wants to deal with the Texans defense. This is a remarkable story when you look at the 2025 New England Patriots.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I mean, so far, the postseason performance has not been a flashy, exciting. It's been like you said, they've had to take advantage of whatever has happened and. And pull together wins. But they have. I'm sick of people being like, strength of schedule, strength of schedule. It's like they won football games. That's all their job is to do. What are they supposed to write in and go, hey, we were kind of hoping you could give us a more difficult schedule. This seems really easy. It is what it is. And so they play the games, they win the games. It's been fun. Yeah, they've been a fun team to watch throughout the season. The Steelers game, I keep saying, is the worst game I think of that I've seen in a long time. The five turnover game, I was miserable outside of that experience. It's been a fun season to watch.

[Adam Schein]

And you've won close games. The likability factor's terrific. May is awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

I love Vrabel. I'm glad he. He's back. I'm glad he's the coach every. I mean, we've had a defensive coordinator that had to leave to deal with health issues, and we've had people stepping up and taking the. It's been great story, an amazing season, and everybody thinks we're going to lose. You do think we're going to lose?

[Adam Schein]

I do. I don't think it's going to be 2417.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. All right. I was reminded last night that the spread for that first super bowl that the Patriots won in at the end of the 01 season.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. What was it?

[Katie Nolan]

It was the third year of the greatest show on turf. Right. The spread was 14.

[Adam Schein]

I was gonna guess 12 and a half.

[Katie Nolan]

It was so big.

[Adam Schein]

I thought the Rams were Gonna crush them.

[Katie Nolan]

Everybody did.

[Adam Schein]

Everybody did.

[Katie Nolan]

And look how that went.

[Adam Schein]

Everybody did. I also thought the Patriots gonna crush the Giants. Okay, me too.

[Katie Nolan]

Twice. Me, too, twice.

[Adam Schein]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

The second time, I'm like, no way they'll do this to me again. Right.

[Adam Schein]

Both those games. 100%. What was. What was worse? In moment, the helmet catch or Mario Mannequin? In moments.

[Katie Nolan]

In moments.

[Adam Schein]

In moments.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, it's. It's tough. Cause they're both pretty bad. I think in moment, the helmet catch, I was in New York. I was surrounded by New York fans.

[Adam Schein]

That's rough.

[Katie Nolan]

Did not think that they were gonna win. And I went into the night going like, you're not gonna win. We're gonna win. And then we just. I was upset.

[Adam Schein]

That's still the most unbelievable sporting event I've ever seen.

[Katie Nolan]

It's crazy.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Were you there?

[Adam Schein]

You were at the game, so it's funny. I never stayed for the game.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

That's the only year I stayed for the game. Funny, that game.

[Katie Nolan]

It's really funny.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. It was unbelievable.

[Katie Nolan]

Why'd you stay for that game?

[Adam Schein]

Because I convinced management that we should do a show in Hawaii for the Pro bowl, which was following.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Adam Schein]

So the Super Bowls in Arizona.

[Katie Nolan]

So short or flight?

[Adam Schein]

Short of flight. Let's do it.

[Katie Nolan]

Brilliant.

[Adam Schein]

Do the show.

[Katie Nolan]

Brilliant.

[Adam Schein]

My wife Katie and I had just gone to Hawaii for a honeymoon. I'm like, we'll go back. And, you know, she was pregnant, so we. She didn't go. I'm going. She had the flu. She's home.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm.

[Adam Schein]

I'm hanging in Hawaii, by the way. Make it full circle after the super bowl this year.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

We're going to Hawaii, taking the family.

[Katie Nolan]

So.

[Adam Schein]

How about that? So it all comes together.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait, so you're not gonna be on the plane?

[Adam Schein]

Of course I'm gonna be on the plane. I don't miss the plane.

[Katie Nolan]

Private plane.

[Adam Schein]

Private plane. With Mad Dog.

[Katie Nolan]

With Mad Dog. I've told this to everybody I know who works in sports media who are like, when are you leaving? I was like, Friday. On Mad Dog's plane. We're going to eat an edible and get on Mad Dog's plane.

[Adam Schein]

So I think this is the equivalent here. Right? And, you know, I don't know if it's his plane.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know if he, like, rents it. I don't want to.

[Adam Schein]

We'll go with his plane. It's Mad Dog's plane.

[Katie Nolan]

He's the reason we're getting on the right plane.

[Adam Schein]

How are we getting home? Air Dog. Yeah. That's. That's how we're getting home.

[Katie Nolan]

Air, bud.

[Adam Schein]

So last year on the plane, and, you know, Dog has been on your podcast. He loves his gummies. Right? That's. Yeah. Listen, Kenny. Gotta have the gummies.

[Katie Nolan]

So very good.

[Adam Schein]

I split a gummy with dog.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy.

[Adam Schein]

I feel like that's the equivalent of, like, having a hot dog with Babe Ruth.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

[Adam Schein]

Like their second thing they're known for. Yeah. Like maybe batting practice with Michael Jordan. Right. Or playing poker with Michael Jordan. And, you know, I have a couple of friends who are dog obsessed, also partake in gummy. I'm like, I'm about to have a gummy with Mad Dog.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

Like, that's the greatest thing of all time.

[Chris]

Time.

[Adam Schein]

Not doing a show with Mad Dog. Not being on his channel, which is phenomenal. A gummy with Mad Dog as he flies us home from the super bowl just for the story.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't wait.

[Adam Schein]

It's gonna be great.

[Katie Nolan]

I also can't wait to see the size of the gummy. And I would also like to see him cut it in half. I want him with the little butter knife. I want to see him going at the gummy and cutting it.

[Adam Schein]

And the best was at one point when he's like, you want to. He offered it to me. He's like, do you want to split it? I'm. I'm like, sure. Anybody have a knife? I'm gonna be gummy with Adam right here.

[Katie Nolan]

Everybody has such a good. I gotta get a mad dog.

[Adam Schein]

You need a mad dog. Impressive.

[Katie Nolan]

I have a gift. I'm gonna bring him. I heard that hiccups are a thing that happened to him sometimes. That really is debilitating.

[Adam Schein]

I didn't know that, but apparently it's like, a real thing, I guess.

[Katie Nolan]

And I found out recently we've cured hiccups. People aren't talking about this enough.

[Adam Schein]

Oh, is that true?

[Katie Nolan]

The cure has been invented and found. It's, like, 98. 8% effective.

[Adam Schein]

Water.

[Katie Nolan]

A straw. A specifically designed straw that you take, like, three quick sips through and it solves them. I've used it. I bought a bunch of them. And then when I heard that he's been having an issue with hiccups, I was like, I'm gonna change his life. I'm gonna.

[Adam Schein]

Shouldn't he know about this?

[Katie Nolan]

Everybody should, but we don't share people's accomplishments anymore. How annoying are hiccups? They're like, the worst.

[Adam Schein]

The worst.

[Katie Nolan]

The least consequential, but worst thing, Chop off my pinky.

[Adam Schein]

I don't want any hiccups, please.

[Katie Nolan]

It's so like I'm trying to talk and I keep interrupting myself.

[Adam Schein]

There's nothing you could do. It's not like, you know, have a lawsuit, have some tea.

[Katie Nolan]

And God forbid somebody's trying to listen to you say something. You have to keep going. Sorry. I know this is annoying to listen to.

[Adam Schein]

And on every single hiccup, you have to say sorry, right?

[Katie Nolan]

And then at that point, it's like when somebody sneezes a lot and you keep saying bless you, and you're like, okay, at some point. Moratorium on the bless yous and the sorrys.

[Chris]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

What else should we talk about? Should we talk about the head coaching carousel in the NFL? A lot of shake up this year.

[Adam Schein]

What do you think so far?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know.

[Adam Schein]

So let me give you a take. I think that when you look at the pressure and your Patriots are part of this, on your Patriots are part of this. The last cycle for the coaching carousel is part of this.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay?

[Adam Schein]

When you have instant success, when Ben Johnson steps in and instantly changes the culture, you're going to have more coaches for fired. When you have Liam Cohen step in and the Jags are for real and you look at them and say they can go to the super bowl this year, you're going to have more coaches fired. We could talk about pressure. We could talk about social media, we could talk about sports radio, whatever it is. Look, John Harbaugh was fired and I get it, and it's a phenomenal hire for the Giants. But that to me made a lot of sense. Mike Tomlin obviously wasn't fired, but I kind of get the sense that they were on board with him saying it's time. And I love Mike Tomlin. It was time. I think that for the Buffalo Bills, it was a no brainer to fire Sean McDermott.

[Katie Nolan]

No brainer.

[Adam Schein]

No brainer.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Adam Schein]

He should always get credit to me, Katie, for changing the culture. The Rex Ryan clown show. Everything needed to change. And he won a lot of games. I think with the minute you minimize that, we're all like, you know, just not doing our jobs. But there was no evidence they could win a Super bowl with him. None. Zero since the 13 second game.

[Katie Nolan]

That really was the thing.

[Adam Schein]

It changed.

[Katie Nolan]

Everything was the thing.

[Adam Schein]

And I actually thought. And, you know, I know there's an element of what I'm about to say, which, like, you know, how Was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? But other than the line about Keon Coleman, the Terry Pegula press conference was actually Great.

[Katie Nolan]

Really?

[Adam Schein]

If you listened carefully, I heard your take on it. Yeah. If you listen carefully, he's basically saying, I fired him because we lost. And I just. Let's start there. There was an expectation we were going to win that game. Coaching mattered. I think we hit the wall on getting to the Super Bowl. Josh Allen, you can make the case. Last two years combined, has been the best player in the NFL. There's an easy one. The MVP was third on my ballot this year. He. There's an easy case to be made. Last two years, best player in the NFL. NFL. Sean McDermott's defense in big spots never got it done. For all we could talk about Josh missing a wide open. Dawson Knox, we could talk about, you know, Brandon Cook's catch, whatever it is, you know, third and 11, Bo Nix makes a play. Where was the pass rush? There have been so many examples of that. Plus, there's no Burrow, there's no Mahomes, there's no Lamar.

[Katie Nolan]

The path was clear. Essentially have a lot of help. He didn't have a lot of receiving targets to throw the ball to. I feel like Josh Allen.

[Adam Schein]

I agree.

[Katie Nolan]

But. Yeah, all right. I can. I can. I can see that take. I will say, don't you think it's interesting because I'm with you on the. Once a new guy comes in and changes the culture, that might drive people to move on from coaches they've had for a while. But don't you think it's interesting then the hires that have been made in the like since, like, if it was time to move on from Tomlin, I get it. But like to Mike McCarthy.

[Adam Schein]

I like McCarthy.

[Katie Nolan]

You do?

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. All right, see, here's. Here's the thing with McCarthy. To me, I think actually what he did in Dallas deserves more love and respect. You don't win with Jerry Jones. And for three years, three straight years, 12 wins. Now, you could rip him if you want or be critical for the Green Bay playoff game. That was bad, but he maximized. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott's best years in the NFL were with. With Mike McCarthy. I mean, go back to. I mean, Joe Montana, Rich Gannon, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Alex Smith, Dak Prescott have all raved about playing quarterback. And what they've Learned from Mike McCarthy, whether he was the quarterback coach, the play caller, the head coach. And the Steelers, to me, made a decision and I could at least wrap my brain around this. They like their team and they think as is, they've got some really good pieces and they could be. Should Be better. So they bring in a coach to win 10, 11, 12 games, are not going to rebuild. They have a lot of money tied up to the defense. Mike loves Pittsburgh. He's from Pittsburgh.

[Katie Nolan]

He really does.

[Adam Schein]

He was. I've talked to him about that. Very emotional. Would you cry like that about your hometown?

[Katie Nolan]

If I were coaching, like the Framingham, Yeah. Yeah. Maybe If I got to go back to it. I mean, after having beaten them in a Super bowl too. Like, that's a.

[Adam Schein]

By the way, for Mike, that's a full circle moment. Like, I've talked to him about that. Like, he's literally. He sounds Pittsburgh. He looks Pittsburgh. Also, if you coach the packers, you coach the Cowboys, you could handle the pressure of being the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, maybe I'm counting them out. I just feel like it was a little bit. I was expecting more of like a splash, more of like a new something. And it felt like a yawning assistant. Yeah. Just like. Yeah. Something exciting. But I. Maybe it's not exciting, but it'll be good. I don't know. We'll see. How do you feel about Joe Brady?

[Adam Schein]

Eh. And I'm obviously pro Bills and I'm pro Josh Allen. I felt like they were 100% going to go in the Josh Allen bucket. Again, I'm on team. Get rid of Sean McDermott.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

So again, I don't think my take is great on this because I wanted them to hire Brian Davis ball like you did if they were going to go in the Josh Allen bucket.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I thought Day Ball, who's his offensive coordinator, was the guy. Okay. So it's not going to be day ball. So there are three names. It was Day Ball. It was Davis Webb, who's like Josh's best friend. They were on the same quarterback room together. Like that.

[Katie Nolan]

That's a too blurry of a line.

[Adam Schein]

Exactly. I think it'll be great eventually. Maybe he's a Raiders coach. Maybe it takes another coaching carousel cycle. And there was Joe Brady. And like, I never felt like Joe Brady was like the next great head coach, but he's interviewed everywhere. Was the architect of the greatest offense in the history of college football. 2019. Joe Burrow, LSU. By the way, Zach Taylor ended up getting fired. I could see a scenario where he would have been the next coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. Just to throw that out there and just to stay consistent. And I also liked the Pegula press conference. It's clear. They basically said. And I could wrap my brain around this, Sean McDermott's fault. Like, they've actually been very consistent in the message. They gotta hire a good defensive coordinator. I don't think this is an A higher. John Harbaugh, a higher. I think McCarthy was an A higher. Jesse Minter in Baltimore, a higher. He's a B minus. Like, I don't. I don't think this is the best hire ever. But what they're saying is, Josh Allen's that great. We think Joe Brady will be better in game. James Cook just led the league in rushing. Joe Brady deserves credit for that. And the key is he's not Sean McDermott. And, you know, if that's, you know, on the back of your, you know, bubblegum card, it's on your, you know, email signature. You know, Joe Brady, not Sean McDermott. That's a positive to me. I guess he should do that for his email signature.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't think it would go over well given all the signatures that the petition to get shot all about. It doesn't.

[Adam Schein]

What are we doing?

[Katie Nolan]

I think I get the sentiment, but you're like, you can't go back. You can't go and do it again. You can't fire the guy and bring him back. It wouldn't. It doesn't.

[Adam Schein]

The people who signed the petition, are they the same people who wanted them run out of town after 13 seconds?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, probably. Maybe. I don't know. I. That's. The whole situation's just kind of a mess. I'm just really glad that Mike McDaniel is not the head coach of the Buffalo Bill Bills. I was hard enough with the Dolphins where I was like, just please don't let him go within my division. And then he did. If he went from the Dolphins to the Bills, I would have killed somebody. I would have been like, dan, if you bring merch into this house, I swear to God. If you start wearing Bill's stuff, I swear to God. But luckily, that didn't.

[Adam Schein]

You can wear Chargers gear.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. Chargers are cool colors. Great logo.

[Katie Nolan]

Here's the thing. I was. Isabella helps me look at the league with fresh eyes and look at a lot of sports with fresh eyes.

[Adam Schein]

I love Isabella.

[Katie Nolan]

Isabella and Shine have a great relationship. It's actually one of my favorite things.

[Adam Schein]

She's the rookie of the year, the mvp. Serious xm.

[Katie Nolan]

She's just an unreal addition to my life, but also to this podcast. Serious as a company. But it's been helpful for me to go like, okay, how is Isabella? You know, how would she see this? As somebody who has not been entrenched in it for so long. And one thing that we ran into during this postseason was that she went to find the Bears packers playoff game and checked on T. She saw it on TV on NFL Network. Because NFL game. Where do I find it? I'm gonna go to NFL Network, obviously. And she's watching this game during like the. At like 4:00'. Clock. And then it took her a while and she said, I'm watching a replay of a game from earlier in the season or something. And she was like, I've been watching it this whole time thinking I was watching the game. And I. First reaction is like, what? Second reaction is. Of course she went to NFL Network and she didn't. They didn't make it clear enough. So one thing I've learned is make it clearer if you're showing a replay, especially if those two teams play that night. And the second thing is that both the LA teams having a similar color coordination, color scheme.

[Adam Schein]

I don't like it.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't like it.

[Adam Schein]

It bothers me. It confuses me.

[Katie Nolan]

Dodge Cars, Chargers and Rams. They're both blue and yellow.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And it's just like a. They're both la. I could see it being very confusing for a new fan trying to go like, which LA team is this?

[Adam Schein]

I'm confused every time I see it. By the way, I happen to love the color pattern. I'm a big, casual. Look at you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I mean, blue and yellow.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I mean, that's a perfect combo for a logo.

[Katie Nolan]

Totally.

[Adam Schein]

But you can't have two in the same city.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you think they did it that.

[Adam Schein]

Way to just a little California dreaming.

[Katie Nolan]

Or like, ease of the stadium having a uniformity? I don't know what the.

[Adam Schein]

I don't like it.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't like it either.

[Adam Schein]

I don't like it. Can we go back to Isabella for a second? So she's watching the wrong game?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Adam Schein]

Why?

[Katie Nolan]

Because I was really excited. I was like, oh, I'm gonna root for the Bears. And they're gonna play today against the Packers. And why. I see the first Bears. Packers thing on TV and so I'm gonna watch it and then 15 minutes go by and I'm like, damn, they're not doing.

[Adam Schein]

What time was this?

[Katie Nolan]

It was during the first game. I think it was during the Panthers game.

[Adam Schein]

So that Saturday afternoon.

[Katie Nolan]

I think so. Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

The Packers Bears playing Saturday night on Amazon exclusively. Right.

[Katie Nolan]

So it would have been hard for her to find anyway.

[Adam Schein]

Do you have Amazon?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

But you can't just like, click your way too you gotta catch.

[Adam Schein]

Have you turned on Amazon for an NFL game?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, I have. I turned on that right game that night. She corrected her mistake because she loves. And I didn't know until a commercial came on for that game saying watch Bears, Packers. Oh, that's how she knew. That's how she knew. On NFL Network they said tune in tonight. And she was like, what? I'm watching you right now.

[Adam Schein]

I've wasted the last 60 minutes of my life.

[Katie Nolan]

So funny.

[Adam Schein]

I was watching, I was flipping the channels with Theo, my 10 year old son, and we were on a Mets Classic and I was just flipping the channels. We were on it for like 30 seconds and I flipped it and I go up to msg, he goes, dad, put that back. I want to see how it ends. I'm like, it's a Mets Classic on sny. I'm gonna give you a spoiler alert. The Mets win. That's how it works. They're not gonna lose on a Mets Classic. I'm gonna tell you. Do you know what happened if there.

[Katie Nolan]

Was ever a team, one of the.

[Adam Schein]

Best Mets games ever and they lost?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

If there was ever a team, it would be the Mets.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out. Theo, by the way, I talked a lot of, talked a lot of shit to him this year and he was right. I was, he said that Aaron Judge was going to get the MVP and he was right.

[Adam Schein]

So the Theo Katie Nolan dynamic when I brought him in was, was fun.

[Katie Nolan]

He was like, no, we're not going to give it to Big Dumper. Big Dumper stinks or whatever he said to me.

[Adam Schein]

But the best is for you. Now as a cocky, arrogant Boston sports fan, you, you made this point to me and to him and I've explained this to him. You were Theo. Yeah, like he's 10. His three teams, he's nicks, Yankees, Buffalo, Buffalo Bills, Syracuse. So he's never seen a championship. He's 10.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

Two of his three coaches, McDermott and Thibodeau just got fired. So like he, and he's a psychotic die hard sports fan obviously. So he's going through it. But I remember, you know, when I went to Syracuse and I had so many Boston sports fans, I would just laugh at them.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

Just make fun of them.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Constant.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

In my years, at my age that he's at, when I was that age, it was tor, it was like torturous. It was, people were hahaha, you guys never win.

[Adam Schein]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

And so I, and Yankees fans were the worst.

[Adam Schein]

The worst, the worst.

[Katie Nolan]

So I, I should, if I Haven't yet apologized to Theo. No.

[Adam Schein]

He loved it.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm taking it out on you because it was taken out on me by people like you when I was your age.

[Adam Schein]

The first thing he did when Aaron Judge won the MVP is like, screw Katie.

[Katie Nolan]

No, I love having beef with a 10 year old. What would you have done if he didn't take to sports? If he didn't like sports?

[Adam Schein]

You know, it's funny. My oldest, Jolie, likes to have this conversation all the time. And I'll tell you why. Because she's like, stuck in a time warp where she has no sports knowledge. Her words from 2020 on. And she says it's because, you know, and I have Jolie, who's a senior in high school, Maya who's a sophomore in high school, and Theo, who's 10 years old.

[Katie Nolan]

Maya came in for.

[Adam Schein]

Yes. You met Maya?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Yep. And. And they're all. They're great kids. We're very lucky. And the girls would watch sports with me all the time. And it wasn't that, you know, they like to be. Oh, dad got a son. No, no, no. Not even remotely. Covid happened. And so Theo. That Theo did not like sports up until that point.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Adam Schein]

2020 hit. And it was like, all sports all the time. He's in fantasy leagues, making money on dfs. He's like, like, just obsessed with all sports. Wants to put on MLB network and find off season hot stove. My girls are still into it, but they're, you know, like, stuck. On what? Like, Maya's watching championship Sunday with us. She's like, wait, Sam Darnold's on the Seahawks? Yeah, like, well, yeah, yeah, like that. That's where her brain's at, right? But they. We love it. They love it. But Theo is obsessed. Yeah, Obsessed.

[Katie Nolan]

And if he hadn't been. If he stayed on that course of not liking sport, would you just go.

[Adam Schein]

Like, okay, we probably trade him in, get another one.

[Katie Nolan]

He's got a warranty. You're covered up to a certain age.

[Adam Schein]

We'd like one with sports.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, please. It is crucial to us.

[Adam Schein]

He's gotta have sports to make room.

[Katie Nolan]

Sports. Because otherwise it would be a waste of you as a dad.

[Adam Schein]

100.

[Katie Nolan]

If you could Adam Shine as a father. You have to let.

[Adam Schein]

You have to like, sp. And he's so into it. And it's great. He hangs on. He's watching the red zone. I'm like, buddy, you hear any of the updates? It's like, dad, I'm not watching for the updates. I'm watching Every game on. On the red zone. I am, thank you. If you're watching for the updates, Theo Shine is there.

[Katie Nolan]

I like the energy you bring.

[Adam Schein]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

It excites me. Thank you. It gets me locked in. I can process the information better. Cuz you're excited. Couple things and then I have a game I want to play with you. Pro Bowl. Yeah, they're playing the games, whatever it is that's. They're doing it Tuesday night. Is that a thing in San Francisco? I guess I. Are we.

[Adam Schein]

The Pro Bowl's dead. The Pro Bowl's been dead for a long time.

[Katie Nolan]

Feels like it.

[Adam Schein]

And also even tying it in with like the hall of Fame, like I never mentioned, and I haven't done this for like 10, 15 years. Well, this guy was in six Pro Bowls because the voting always was foolish. Even before when, like the Pro bowl, like Sean Taylor's trucking guys and you know, the players cared, they would vote for the Pro bowl for the season was over. Like, it was always flawed. And now it's like dead, dead. I. I didn't even know it was Tuesday like it used to be on, on the Sunday. I was always flying. I never talked about it, didn't care. You could have told me that it was, you know, on Mars.

[Katie Nolan]

You could tell me it's a dodgeball game now and I'd go, cool. Okay, I get it.

[Adam Schein]

By the way, if it was dodgeball, I'd watch.

[Katie Nolan]

I'd watch.

[Adam Schein]

I'd be into that.

[Katie Nolan]

It's seven on seven flag football.

[Adam Schein]

Is that what it is now?

[Katie Nolan]

I didn't even know that. A couple skills challenges and then seven on seven flag football and I think a 50 yard field. I think they play on a.

[Adam Schein]

Actually it's not bad.

[Katie Nolan]

I might watch it.

[Adam Schein]

Not bad.

[Katie Nolan]

I think moving it to the city where the super bowl is is smart for at least for our sake because now all the Pro Bowlers have to be. They have to be there at Radio Road Zoom, and we'll be seeing them. Which makes me. Also reminds me that Shadore Sanders is Pro Bowler. A Pro Bowler.

[Adam Schein]

Congratulations.

[Katie Nolan]

I agree.

[Adam Schein]

Well deserved.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, I don't know. Ten interceptions, seven touchdowns, eight total games played. Went three and four as the starter. What is that? Just nobody else wanted to go.

[Adam Schein]

Nobody wants to go. Nobody cares. And so I actually feel bad for Shador. I think there's a lot that he's earns, like how he handled the draft process like that. That was really bad. I don't think he should have fallen to, you know, the fifth round. Day three of the draft. I thought that was too much. Yeah, that was a nightmare.

[Katie Nolan]

Awful. Awful.

[Adam Schein]

I felt bad for him. The Pro bowl thing. I feel bad for him all over again.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

Cause he doesn't deserve the ridicule. The game's a joke. The process is a joke. Like, I didn't even talk this year. I don't know if you did it on your show about Pro bowl snubs, because Pro bowl snubs. I don't even know who's in the Pro Bowl.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

I don't even know. Like all these. Other than baseball. The All Star game is dead. The NBA's dead. The pro Bowl's dead. I don't know what the hell they're doing in hockey. I don't watch it.

[Katie Nolan]

Last year was awesome.

[Adam Schein]

Was it fun?

[Katie Nolan]

The four nations.

[Adam Schein]

I don't even remember. Four nations was great. Ruled was that.

[Katie Nolan]

That was the All Star replacement.

[Adam Schein]

That was great.

[Katie Nolan]

Last year.

[Adam Schein]

That was. I was on vacation. That was great.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it was great.

[Adam Schein]

I was.

[Katie Nolan]

Loved it. It was. I mean, Pro bowl is weird, but.

[Adam Schein]

Pro bowl is dead.

[Katie Nolan]

It's dead. Nobody cares.

[Adam Schein]

Nobody cares.

[Katie Nolan]

And I, and I feel bad, but it's like we're making them play too many games. So there's really no solution. I don't want to watch them play another game and then a flag football game. It's like, like it's almost too close to what they already know how to do at a high level. So it's like I'd rather watch them play dodgeball or watch them play capture the flag. I said they should do camp games like, like Red Rover, tug of war.

[Adam Schein]

Capture the flag, afc, NFC tug award.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Or like a paintball fight or something. Like something that at least is like outside of the skill set. Cuz flag football is like, how do you unlearn how to not how to hate? You know what I'm saying? How do you nominate a guy for being good at hitting and then he's not allowed to hit? What's he doing here?

[Adam Schein]

Well, let's also think about the stupidity of this conversation.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

The whole. The process is dumb. The game is dumb. And I, I genuinely felt bad for Shador.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

He didn't deserve that. Obviously he's not a pro Bowler. He's barely a starting quarterback this year. Of the NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

So what are we doing? We're just embarrassing Shador Sanders. I thought that was low hanging fruit.

[Katie Nolan]

I think one thing about opening up phone lines on the radio, on sports radio, Shador Sanders is a name that gets people to go, like, pick up their phone call. People have very strong opinions about him. I know partially it's because of.

[Adam Schein]

Let me ask you something. You like taking calls? I love taking calls.

[Katie Nolan]

I love it. It's my favorite.

[Adam Schein]

I knew you would.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the best.

[Adam Schein]

I knew you would.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the best. It's a wild card. And sometimes you get stuff where you're like, this is a huge waste of everybody's time. But I would say that's so rare. And it's actually also keeps me on my toes also.

[Adam Schein]

There's an art to it. Taking telephone calls, interacting with people. You're great at it. You know, everyone on our channel, you know, Dawg and Stephen A. I pride myself on it, like, and that's what our channel does. I love interacting with sports fans.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I love it. It's fun because they're like, they care. They care, and it's. They get really passionate. It's the best for news breaks about a team. And I'm like, you're a fan of that team. Call me.

[Chris]

Totally.

[Katie Nolan]

I want to hear from you today. I want to hear from you. Even if the way we're all characterizing you is different from how you're feeling, then I especially want to hear from you. If you're actually really happy about this crazy thing that happened, I want to hear from you. And it's been. It's been awesome. It's like, reconnecting me because when I took a couple, I don't know, years away from sports, I really was, like, had to have, like, a come to Jesus moment where I was like, am I doing this? Am I. Should I keep doing this? Or is this stupid? Should I give up on this? Like, I love sports, but my relationship with it had kind of changed because it became work. And so I had to, like, take some time away, come back to it as a fan. Like, let the fan in me, bring me back. And then once that happened, I was like, no, this is. I do feel very strongly about sports, and I do feel like this is a direction that sports can go in, which is why I'm fascinated by somebody like you, who I've never once gone. His energy. He's been doing this too long. He doesn't love it anymore. You still love it.

[Adam Schein]

Love it.

[Katie Nolan]

21 years of a radio show, how do you stay loving sports without going, like, I know what this is. I've seen this 50 times a year. This isn't interesting. How do you stay, like, passionate?

[Adam Schein]

I love that question. First of all, I love it All. And I know that almost sounds like generic or a compound, but I love the games, I love the storylines. I love the post game press conferences. I love trades. I love free agency. I love the drama. I love, like this year in the NFL, you know, we have two teams in the super bowl that nobody picked. Most people didn't pick them to ultimately go to the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. 50 to 1 or greater odds for both the Seahawks and the Patriots. Like, we spend all off season. I love this team. I love that team. They're legit, they're fraudulent. And it's Seahawks, Patriots in the Super Bowl. Like, I don't care about, you know, cold takes, hot takes. I just, I love it. I'm constantly thinking about content, like 25 hours, like in a day, you know, guests to have on. I love watching games. I love when people lose their mind on Twitter. I just, I love the cadence of the week. What a Monday show is like, what a Friday show is like, how it's different from a Wednesday show. Like, I, I love the platform on Sirius xm. You know, look, obviously, I've also learned, seriously, it's a great question, the value of vacation. Because you have two speeds in this, right? You're on or you're off. So you're on constantly. Like when you're doing a daily radio show. Like, when I'm done with a radio show, I'm exhausted, I'm tired because there's a lot of passion and emotion and intelligence, hopefully that goes into it every single day. And this, I think sometimes people on the outside don't realize it. Like when we take calls, we're getting really high level sports fans who are making a conscious decision. I'm going to call Adam, I'm going to call Katie because I. The Browns hire a coach today. Great. I want to chop it up with them on whether or not this is a good day or bad day for the franchise. So there's a trust. So I need to be ready. I need to be prepared. Sean McDermott gets fired in the middle of the monologue. Like, I love this. I try not to take myself too seriously, but I take the job seriously and it's fun and I love it and I love connecting with people and.

[Katie Nolan]

I love sports and you're so good at it.

[Adam Schein]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

I will say you mentioned that nobody saw these two teams winning. Did you see that? An NFL spokesperson had to come out.

[Adam Schein]

It's amazing.

[Katie Nolan]

And say that this super bowl conspiracy theory because there is a graph that the NFL's official Twitter account posted first day of the regular season. And in the image, there's a player from all 32 teams standing outside of Levi's Stadium, which is where the super bowl is going to happen. But Sam Darnold and Drake May were two of the players that were closest to the stadium, and those are, of course, the quarterbacks who will be in the super bowl this year. So people started to be like. Then I saw people going, well, these two are standing next to each other and there was a trade that made them play together. And then these two are such a big conspiracy theory about how the things rigged to the point where Brian McCarthy, NFL spokesperson Monday morning, had to come out and say he posted on. On X re the controversy over this image.

[Adam Schein]

No, by the way, the fact that Brian McCarthy had to issue a statement is amazing.

[Katie Nolan]

Absurd.

[Adam Schein]

It's beyond absurd. I. By the way, I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially with those kind of things. That is amazing.

[Katie Nolan]

Amazing.

[Adam Schein]

I studied the hell out of that picture. Like, Drake May and Sam Darnold are closest to the trophy. This is freaking genius.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Adam Schein]

Like, I. I couldn't get enough. And the first image you see, tell me if I'm wrong, is Saquon Barkley.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he's the back. That's right front. So because their backs are to you so that you can see their jerseys, which is smart because a lot of people would go, who's that? With faces? You just don't have the facial recognition as much with a casual fan. So they have their backs to you. So Saquon is closest to us. And technically, Drake and Sam Darnold are furthest from us. The viewer closest to the trophy. Closest to the trophy and the. In the stadium.

[Adam Schein]

I'm obsessed with that. When I saw that, that was a thing, and the whole super bowl, it's.

[Katie Nolan]

Funny, but I feel like back in the day, it used to be funny. And now, like, genuinely, I saw people online being like, all things rigged. FanDuel's in on it, the money line. And you're like, guys, it can't all be rigged.

[Adam Schein]

Do you think people really believe that?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. But I will say I got a friend who's got a kid, and that kid just turned kind of God, I think, 10. So around Theo's age.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And he. When he lost at a video game, when we were over there playing for his mom's birthday, we were all playing video games together. When he wouldn't get a perfect score, he said, it's rigged. He kept calling it rigged. And I said, oh, no. That's trickling down to kids. I hope kids aren't getting that. I've heard that language. You've seen that language online of people being like, this is rigged. It's a setup. It's a. But the way to see it in a child where I was like, no, it's not. Come on. And so, I don't know. I think. I think some people genuinely did think that was evidence that it's all rigged.

[Adam Schein]

Boy, that's. That's a sad state of affairs, isn't it? That's.

[Katie Nolan]

Isn't it, though?

[Adam Schein]

I don't live in that where. You know the for you page on. On Twitter, by the way, when noted, you called it X, which is right.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, I did, because it was written in here and I'm Ron Burgundy, But I do still Twitter, to me, and it's not. Also, X was supposed to be the everything site, and it didn't end up.

[Adam Schein]

How's that going?

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, really, now it's the nothing site. There's really used to at least have information I could verify who it was coming from. Now you see a blue check, and you go, that actually does not mean anything except that they.

[Adam Schein]

That's the toughest part.

[Katie Nolan]

There are parody accounts with blue checks.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And then their stuff gets retweeted and it spreads, and you go, how could this happen? Well, because not everybody knows that this guy tweets exclusively parody content about the Yankees. How would they know that if they're not a Yankees fan? So, of course they see it and they think it's. It's just crazy.

[Adam Schein]

I am Twitter obsessed, though. Like, you talk about preparation for the radio. I am, like, on Twitter, checking what's hot, what's breaking. Where do I need to chime in on, like, 24 hours? I used to be.

[Katie Nolan]

And now I don't trust it anymore. I don't trust it as much now. I'm like, I have no North Star. I'm just out here in a room with the lights off going, what are we talking about today? Cause I just don't know. But now.

[Adam Schein]

Now you have to verify everything, especially.

[Katie Nolan]

AI you got to Google it. And then go past the AI Summary, especially with sports. AI just guesses at sports numbers. And I go, that's not true. I know that's not true. It's wrong a lot of the time. And it makes me so. Makes me so angry.

[Adam Schein]

That's why I don't worry. People are like, how is AI going to impact your world? I'm like, AI, it's got a lot.

[Katie Nolan]

Of work to do, you know, catch up. AI, it's got a lot of work.

[Adam Schein]

You know, Adam Shine. AI.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. And I don't think AI can give 10 takes like Adam Shine can, by the way.

[Adam Schein]

You know what's scary?

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Adam Schein]

They can not like us.

[Katie Nolan]

Not good.

[Adam Schein]

But if you put in, oh, no, you can do that.

[Katie Nolan]

Get them to argue a take.

[Adam Schein]

I'll take you a step further. I happen to have a take that is not popular. That Clayton Kershaw is actually the Goat. Like, I. I think he is the best pitcher playing in the World Baseball.

[Katie Nolan]

Classic, by the way. Right? Isn't he?

[Adam Schein]

Do we like that?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Adam Schein]

I think that the way you phrase that is perfect, because I want to have a take on everything. I don't on Clayton. First of all, the World Baseball Classic is fun. It's cool.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm excited.

[Adam Schein]

I'm into it if Clayton Kershaw is on the team. Not on the team. I don't care. Like, it just. It doesn't matter. It's cool, right? He wanted to be involved in the baseball grade. I want. I put in a friend of mine, couldn't believe that I never used ChatGPT. I can't even say it.

[Katie Nolan]

Good.

[Adam Schein]

GPT. Yeah. In fact, I thought forever was ChatGPT. That's how on GPT is it G.

[Katie Nolan]

It's P. It's a GB. I was saying everybody else I know.

[Adam Schein]

Like, it's not even on my radar.

[Katie Nolan]

Isn't GBT like a club drug? Maybe that's gbt.

[Adam Schein]

Well, you know, I'm into that, obviously. I mean, you think of me, you think of club drugs. I mean, that's, you know, first and foremost. So I typed something in about Clayton Kershaw, the case for him to be the Goat. And I'm literally looking at this, right? And then this is like 30 minutes before air. I was with a buddy, out to dinner with him and his wife on a Saturday, and it was a Monday show. And I'm like. I felt like it was the only time I was on the air. And I'm like. I don't even like the way I sound right now. Like, I feel like I'm chatgpt talking about Clayton Kershaw.

[Katie Nolan]

He's not just a pitcher. He's also.

[Adam Schein]

I was like, never again am I ever going to chat.

[Katie Nolan]

Cause it gets in your brain, and.

[Adam Schein]

Then you go, I didn't like it. I didn't like it, Cody.

[Katie Nolan]

Which is why We've come up with a game and we want to test run it with you. Okay. Okay.

[Adam Schein]

I'm in.

[Katie Nolan]

This game is called Take it or leave it. In front of you are cards. On those cards are written a sports take. You will pick the card, read the take, and then you'll either choose to take it, which means you agree with it, you'll argue for it, or leave it, you disagree with it, and we move on to the next one.

[Adam Schein]

Great. Okay if I pick it up?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, go for it.

[Adam Schein]

Got to lean over here.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry, I didn't. It's not. You can put them in your lap if that's easier. Whatever.

[Adam Schein]

One at a time.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, one at a time.

[Adam Schein]

NFL conference championship games should take place at a neutral site. Leave it.

[Katie Nolan]

Leave it.

[Adam Schein]

This is the single worst take in the history of takes. Like, you've officially on casuals played this game for about eight seconds. And I think this is the worst thing I've ever heard.

[Katie Nolan]

I also hate that take, but I wanted to make sure you hated it, too. I saw it floating around on Twitter.

[Adam Schein]

There are. You learn a lot about people on certain things. This is one of them.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Like if you actually think that this is where we should go because it snowed and the offense was bad and the Broncos and the Patriots game, then you hate sports, you hate life, you hate Mother Nature, and she never did anything wrong. And by the way, I'm not anti dome stadiums, but you're not gonna go to a neutral site. Yeah, right. Come on. I mean, you play in Denver. They got the one. See, it snows in January. It's fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it was a blast.

[Adam Schein]

There were so many smart people that I respect who had this take. It's the worst take I've ever heard.

[Katie Nolan]

I agree.

[Adam Schein]

Worst take.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, leave it.

[Adam Schein]

All right, next one. This is fun. Mike McCarthy will win a Super bowl as the head coach of the Steelers. I'm going to take it. I'm going to take the tech. I will take the take. That's how much I love Mike McCarthy. I think there's obviously work to do on the roster. Sounds like they want to bring Aaron Rodgers back. I get it. Sounds like he likes Will Howard. I'm still trying to figure if that's like press conference speak, he's on the roster. I didn't love Will Howard as an NFL prospect, but some smart people did, so maybe he can work with him, you know? So Rich Gannon always gives McCarthy credit for being the guy that took him from, you know, Washington. He was cut, fourth round pick and he became what he became because in Kansas City, gannon always gives McCarthy credit for that. So I think that Dak Prescott was a fourth round pick. It's not crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay?

[Adam Schein]

Joe Burrow being back is a problem. Lamar Jackson having a new great head coach is a problem. AFC's got a lot of really good teams. I'm a big Mike McCarthy fan.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay? He took it. He took the take.

[Adam Schein]

This is fun. The NBA dunk contest is dead. Oh, yeah, you're this.

[Chris]

It's dead.

[Adam Schein]

It's been. It's sad. I really, I want the dunk contest and the three point contest to be back. Yeah, I don't care about the game. I, I would love. Just give me Steph and Caitlin Clark shooting threes. Give me Larry Bird. Give me, you know, give me the throwback players. Like, I used to love the dunk contest back in the day, you know, whether it was Said Sabalos or D. Brown or Michael Jordan. I mean, I don't even know who's in it. Do you know who's in it?

[Katie Nolan]

Even Mac McClung, a G League player, said, I'm done.

[Adam Schein]

I'm good.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't do it anymore. I'm out of ideas. You guys keep putting this on me. I barely play in the league.

[Adam Schein]

Lane Kiffin is an exemplary head coach. Yeah, I'm going to leave this.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. The adjective was important. I wasn't going to say great head coach. I'm like, I want to back shine into a corner. Is he a shining example of what a head coach should be?

[Adam Schein]

No, no. And look, I think he's a good head coach. I think he wins games. Right? We talked about that earlier. Sean McDermott. But I mean, what he did this year was so wrong and so slimy and so self serving.

[Katie Nolan]

So Kiffin. We could just say it's Kiffin.

[Adam Schein]

He Kiffin the whole thing. That's what he did. It was like right out of central casting. It's like, how could I be more Lane Kiffin? I've got it. I'm going to take a job to make the playoffs and leave my team that's in the playoffs because they have a better shot to win the championship. Oh, wait, Ole Miss can actually win.

[Katie Nolan]

The whole thing was bad. Oh, I was rooting for him so bad. Tough school to root for, but I did root for them for a minute. And so.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Adam Schein]

That's tough.

[Katie Nolan]

That's tough. All right, Last 1.

[Adam Schein]

Mike McDaniel will be a head coach again in the NFL. Yeah, this is going to happen.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, this is going to happen. He's taking it.

[Adam Schein]

I also think, and here's what's interesting about Mike. Obviously I know your relationship. Mike needs to, you need to tell him this, the cold weather thing, it's dead on arrival. Now, today I actually joked, I felt like Mike McDaniel because I'm coming in from Westchester, I'm on the train, you know, and I love my winter coat. It's great. My wife got me this stylish, great winter coat. It's terrific. I don't have it today. I got my Canada goose.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I got the scarf and I got, you know, I can't mess around with the hair, so I got the earmuffs. I brought boots.

[Katie Nolan]

Earmuffs.

[Adam Schein]

I mean, the whole. I get cold. It's 8 degrees.

[Katie Nolan]

I wore a hat. I need earmuffs.

[Adam Schein]

I can't do. I can't do that.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. Because the whole time I was going, I'm ruining my hat.

[Adam Schein]

But I look like a schmuck. I'm dead on arrival. Right. And Mike McDaniel just, I need him to just not be dead on arrival in the cold. He's going to get another head coaching job. His win loss record, especially when you consider what he had to deal with in Miami, was impressive. I mean, how the general manager, this is me talking, held his job for as long as he did. I have no idea. Idea. You know, the whole Tua thing. I'm, I'm on team McDaniel there. He also picked a perfect situation. Look, I'm a big Justin Herbert fan. Herbert has not played well in the playoffs. Herbert plays well in the playoffs. Mike McDaniel is going to get a ton of offers. This. Now, I will say this, McDaniel, obviously, and this is coming from me. I'm, I'm an odd guy. Odd duck.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

Leads the league in odd duck.

[Katie Nolan]

And we need that.

[Adam Schein]

We need. And here's Jim Harbaugh. What, what are they, what are they going to talk about?

[Katie Nolan]

They should. I've seen people say they should do their press conferences together. They should make them have to do the post game stuff together.

[Adam Schein]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

As like a buddy cop situation.

[Adam Schein]

And by the way, because, you know, we don't always get the assistant coaches speaking during the week.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

I need McDaniel to speaker four.

[Katie Nolan]

All the time.

[Adam Schein]

All the time.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

I need McDaniel to speak. I need Harbaugh to speak. I need them to speak about each other. I need them to speak about their outfits. I need them to speak about their, you know, what would they order for locker? Like, I need. I need a reality show, a Mike McDaniel, Jim Harbaugh reality.

[Katie Nolan]

A live stream, a live cam.

[Adam Schein]

We need a live stream of the dog plane, by the way. Yeah, maybe.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, maybe. We'll see.

[Adam Schein]

Dog. The first time we did this, it was in la, and we're all excited, and he had the gummy and he was asleep.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, See, that's the thing.

[Adam Schein]

He was asleep.

[Katie Nolan]

Sometimes make you go to sleep.

[Adam Schein]

That does for me, it's almost like I had like a couple of vodka sodas. Like, that's. That's how I. I also. I'm not a big drinking on the plane guy in general. Right. This is the exception to the rule.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. We gotta drink on the plane.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I don't usually mix drinking and drugs and kids. PSA for the kids, but I usually. Because I had a bad experience visiting my cousin when she went to usc. See? And. And thank you to the. To the two kind gentlemen on the baseball team who sat with me while I puked my effing brains out because I thought it would be a good idea after. After pregaming at a. At a house party and getting drunk off of, like, a keg or whatever we were drinking to, then take a bong rip and try to play Guitar Hero. And I got. So I was like, what's going on? What's going on? The way the screen was moving, I like, was like, I'm a puke. And I puked for the rest of the day. So I don't usually mix the two, but I will on this plane because it's. It's the dog plane.

[Adam Schein]

It's the story.

[Katie Nolan]

We gotta do it.

[Adam Schein]

It's the story. There's always. There's there's plenty of alcohol.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

And there's, you know, someone who's giving you the alcohol, so you don't say no.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

So it's like, would you like, you know, a tequila? Sure. Obviously. And, you know, if. If again, to me, the whole gummy thing, it's dog. It's the story.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Adam Schein]

Like you said, the text message, how am I getting home from the Super Bowl? I'm on Mad Dog's plane.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. It's the story.

[Adam Schein]

It's the story.

[Katie Nolan]

You don't go, yeah, I could have done an edible with Mad Dog back in my 30s. I just. I wasn't really feeling it that day. You. That's a horrendous story to tell your family and friends later in life. Right now, it's.

[Adam Schein]

My friends and family were laughing at me the first time. I was like, I don't think I'm gonna have a gummy with dog. Like, what the hell is wrong with you? This isn't about you. It's about us. It's about every.

[Katie Nolan]

It's about the story, what happened.

[Adam Schein]

That's it.

[Katie Nolan]

Now, then again, I would say the story might be better in terms of me remembering it to tell it. If I don't take the gummy, but for the sake of the. I'm taking the gummy. It's gonna be half of a 5 milligram. I can tell you right now, it's not gonna do shit to me.

[Adam Schein]

See, half of a five for me.

[Katie Nolan]

No way.

[Adam Schein]

I'll feel it a little way. A little bit.

[Katie Nolan]

But your mouth will get a little dry.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. I'll have that. I'll have a drink. I'll feel it.

[Katie Nolan]

Two and a half milligrams. It's different during football. We're doing a lot. I think more than that in my house. I'm not really an edibles gal. That's not my way of consuming it. But I would imagine it's working out to more than that.

[Adam Schein]

Yeah. See, for me, during the football season, I can't with an edible. I know how that sounds, but working six days a week, you can't.

[Katie Nolan]

It would. You'd get all the things confused. Of course not.

[Adam Schein]

I can't.

[Katie Nolan]

Of course not. Your brain needs.

[Adam Schein]

Football season is different.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And that's why the World Needs yous and the World Needs Me.

[Adam Schein]

That's right.

[Katie Nolan]

We serve different. I couldn't go without it for the football season. But you have to. And that makes perfect sense. Adam Schein, thank you for doing our series.

[Adam Schein]

This was amazing. Are you kidding?

[Katie Nolan]

So fun. Listen to Shine on Sports. When does your show start? I know when it ends.

[Adam Schein]

9 o'. Clock. 9am you need to know what it is.

[Katie Nolan]

9Am on met dog Sports Radio. And look for him everywhere else on all the.

[Adam Schein]

All the stuff.

[Katie Nolan]

You're just at shine, right?

[Adam Schein]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

On Social.

[Katie Nolan]

Find him. He's the best. He's Isabella's best friend.

[Adam Schein]

I do love Isabella.

[Katie Nolan]

And she loves you.

[Adam Schein]

I talk about Isabella a lot. Probably more than I should.

[Katie Nolan]

No, she talks about you probably just as much.

[Adam Schein]

I really like Isabella. She's the coolest person I've ever met.

[Katie Nolan]

She's the best. The heart of the show. Heart of the show. We always say the heart of the company. Yeah.

[Adam Schein]

She does the hearts yes, she's just the heart.

[Katie Nolan]

Lift her up. Up. This message is brought to you by Cottonell. Cottonell leaves you feeling so clean you'll want to come clean about everything else. Like the fact that your home gym is actually just where you keep your laundry. Your booty deserves the best. And the Cottonell toilet paper and flushable wipes duo use cleaning ripples to clean better and leave you feeling comfortably dry. It's the clean that makes you finally admit you still own a pair of cargo shorts you claim are vintage. Come clean with Cottonelle this Valentine's Day. Let Edible help you share the love with. Same day and next day delivery or local pickup, we make it easy to be the hero of the holiday. Choose from our signature fresh fruit arrangements, indulgent dessert boards or baked treats that arrive ready to wow. Whether it's for a new flame or your forever sweetheart, let Edible arrange the details so you can can focus on the moment. Order [e-mail] or visit your local store today to find the perfect gift.

[Adam Schein]

Everyone deserves to be connected. That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T mobile is in US cellular stores. Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the cost of optional benefits, plan features and taxes and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third.

[Katie Nolan]

Line free via monthly bill credits.

[Adam Schein]

Credit stop if you cancel any lines.

[Katie Nolan]

Qualifying credit required. There's about a bajillion ways to get fit from take this to don't eat that. It can be a lot. At Anytime Fitness, we keep it simple. It starts with a body scan and your coach builds a custom plan just for you. No fads, just real results. Join Anytime Fitness today. Okay. Welcome back. What a blast. Thank you to Adam Schein, Isabella's best friend, for coming by and entertaining us. I think that game works. I think so too. I think that was fun. I think it's fun. I think it's fun. We could come up with crazy takes. He was a good sport about it. I love that. It says here in my rundown surprise segment. So I don't know what to do here. Who wants to take the lead?

[Chris]

I can. So in honor of today being your birthday, Katie, Happy birthday to you guys. Hey, thanks guys.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Chris]

Very exciting. We thought we'd put together a little package, a little birthday package for you. So I've been working on this for most of the morning. And I just wanted to play it for you now. So let's have a listen.

[Adam Schein]

Hey Katie, it's Austin from Milwaukee. I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday. Thank you for everything.

[Katie Nolan]

We love you and we mean it. Hey Katie, it's Kelsey from New Hampshire. I'm just calling to say happy birthday. Thank you for everything you do. I love you and I mean it. Hi Katie, this is Michael from Seattle.

[Adam Schein]

And I just wanted to say happy birthday. You've been so meaningful in my life since the pandemic. Even though we've never met.

[Katie Nolan]

That's all I've got.

[Adam Schein]

Love you.

[Katie Nolan]

Mean it. Hey Katie. And the casualties, this is Erin from New York. I just wanted to call in and wish you a happy birthday. Katie. Hey Katie, this is Regina calling from Minneapolis. I'm just calling to say happy birthday. Give Myrtle a squeeze from me.

[Adam Schein]

Love you, Mina.

[Katie Nolan]

Have a great day. Hi Katie, this is Laura from Maryland. Love you. Mean it. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that at the end or if I can say that now, but anyway, I am calling to wish you a happy birthday. As a woman, I don't necessarily always feel welcome in sports spaces, so I'm glad you have this space for people like me. Hi Katie, this is Andrew from Chicago.

[Adam Schein]

I want to wish you a very happy birthday. Full of trips to the gym, stressful arc rating and plenty of quality time with those two hairy but lovable animals.

[Katie Nolan]

That you live with.

[Adam Schein]

Hi, this is Kush in Atlanta, Georgia. Just wanted to say happy, happy birthday. I've been listening for a long time and you've always been inspiring and amazing. So thank you so much for being awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi Katie, it's Brianna, your resident Houston, big fan, living in Colorado. You brought me so much joy and entertainment and I wish you the absolute best birthday. Hi Katie, happy birthday. We love you and we mean it. I'm Maddie from Florida. I was part of your casuals fantasy league this year. I was Caleb Williams nail salon. And because of that league I've met some other casuals fans who are truly awesome people. I just want to thank you for bringing those awesome people into my life. My name is Brittany, I'm calling from Jersey and I just want to say happy birthday.

[Adam Schein]

Hi, this is Sierra from Oakland, California and I just wanted to call to wish Katie a happy birthday.

[Katie Nolan]

I love Katie because she's so honest.

[Adam Schein]

And so naturally funny and such an.

[Katie Nolan]

Approachable voice in sports.

[Adam Schein]

And listening cudgels is like one of the highlights of my week.

[Katie Nolan]

Happy birthday, Katie. Going to say how Much appreciate the work you do and your wonderful show and making sports fans of all levels feel included and bringing the joy to watching sports. Hey Katie, Happy birthday. Thanks for being a bright spot in the trash fire of the world right now. I always appreciate your takes and love listening to you and the casualties.

[Adam Schein]

Hey, this is Vishu from Philadelphia. Hope you have a great birthday and love you.

[Chris]

Mean it.

[Adam Schein]

Hey, Happy birthday Katie. It's Anthony from Michigan. One of my of my absolute favorite things about Katie Nolan lately is that you're speaking about a little bit more and more where you can, when you can and showing us that we're all on the same side.

[Katie Nolan]

We love you.

[Adam Schein]

We mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

Jen from Virginia. Katie, happy birthday.

[Adam Schein]

Love you.

[Katie Nolan]

Mean it.

[Adam Schein]

Hey Katie, this is Al from Jacksonville. Just wanted to say happy birthday. So thankful for you and the community you've created and making sports accessible.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi Katie, Happy birthday. This is Maria from the Wisconsin. I hope this upcoming year brings you as much joy and happiness as you bring all of your listeners. Hi Katie, it's Megan from Pittsburgh. I just wanted to call in and say happy birthday. Love you. Mean it.

[Adam Schein]

And go Kate. Happy birthday Katie from Mike in Oregon. Love you. Mean it. Hi Katie, Jason from South Bend. Just going to wish you a happy birthday. Love you. Mean it. This is your birthday song. It is very long. Hey Katie, this is Daniel in Seattle. Love you.

[Katie Nolan]

Mean it.

[Adam Schein]

And happy birthday. Wanted to also take an opportunity to get mushy here on the voicemail and just say like not just how great you are but also how great your fans are. And I think that really says something about you and the direction that you take your show and how you interact with with the world because it's been such a joy the last few years being on the Casuals Discord in a time where community is hard to find sometimes. Love you. Mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

Happy birthday you guys. That was so long. That was so many people.

[Chris]

Let me just say, Katie, we had 14 minutes worth of voicemails that I had to pass through and get down to a four and a half hours minute package. This was something. So kudos to the Discord by the way. So I reached out to the Discord yesterday late afternoon and said if anyone wants to wish Katie a happy birthday, get in your messages now because I'm going to start editing up a package for her in the morning. And we had that many people between yesterday afternoon and this morning called to wish you a happy birthday which shows how loved you are. That's making me very Kudos to the Discord.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out Damn, dude, that was. And I recognize so many of those voices.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, thanks, everybody. It's so silly. It's just a birthday. I don't know why I feel so silly.

[Chris]

That's special. You have to make it.

[Katie Nolan]

That means so much to me. It also just made me, like, really grateful for doing fan service this year because I think before, while I would recognize some of the names, I don't know that I would recognize their voices. And it's kind of really nice to like, to be like, oh, I know that name. I know that voice. I know who that is. I talk to them. You guys, That's. Wow. Okay. I'm a little emotional and overwhelmed. Thanks for doing that, Chris. That's really sweet. And thank you. Thank you, everybody, for calling in. And I really. We're not doing. I got no plans for tonight. I should have thought ahead and made some sort of a dinner plan, but I think we're just gonna go to the gym, which is parlance from an old podcast, and then we'll play some arc raiders. Although I got ratted by a guy yesterday. That really upset me. I had a nice gun, and he killed me, and he took it, and I was upset. It's not nice. I know it's not. And I went, it's my birthday. It wasn't yet, but.

[Chris]

Your Australian birthday. It was your Australian birthday.

[Katie Nolan]

My friend Inez in Australia texted me around that time and said, happy Australian birthday. And I said, thank you, Inez.

[Chris]

Did I. Did I wish you an Australian birthday before your friend or after your friend? Surely I was the first.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's check. Let's actually check, because I don't want to be wrong.

[Chris]

I feel like I got it, like, 3am Melbourne to time.

[Katie Nolan]

I got from Inez, happy birthday. Happy Australian birthday was 6:35 yesterday.

[Chris]

I beat your friend.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, you did say happy Australian birthday before her. Yes. Fair enough. Fair enough. You were officially the first my dad called into the radio show. Obviously. My dad texted me this morning, happy birthday, Katie. And I'm sure he'll call me later and he'll sing happy birthday to me. He. I get a text from Nate Lee, the producer of Fan service, on the air today, and he said, what's your dad's name? And I was like, Mike. Assuming I'm like, somebody must have called in, said they were my dad. He wanted to confirm. And then I just get a text in the show thread from Nate that says, special message. Your dad says, happy birthday. And I'm like, put him on the air. Why would you call A radio show, I guess. He said to Nate, just let her know I called and wished her a happy birthday. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Chris]

He's got to talk to his financial advisor. He can't be on hold.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm on hold with Verizon, and I don't have time to do this, but can you let her know that Mike in Framingham says happy birthday? Absurd. Thank you, guys, so much. That was amazing. And I don't. I don't. Sometimes I feel like in these moments, I. I don't have the words to express how grateful that all makes me feel. So I just want you to know I love you, and I do mean it. And I'm. And I'm really happy because the. I got a bunch of texts in the morning, and then, you know, on your birthday, you go through that little lull where you're like, am I not gonna hear from anybody else? I got a text, and it was from my dentist, and I was like, don't think I. I don't think I want that. I would rather nobody text me for the rest of the day than for it to be my dentist who thinks of me last. But anyway, thank you, everybody. That's really, really heartwarming, and it means the world to me. I'm really excited to go to the super bowl next week and to bring you guys some wacky content. You gotta bear with us. If it's crazy format, if it's just five minutes with 18 famous people smushed back to back into a podcast, that might just be what it is, but we're gonna have a lot of fun with it. We're gonna miss you, Isabella. Chris, you're not coming either, are you? No, just Brady, who, again, is off this week. He's away. But we're gonna make it work. It's gonna be great. And. And I'm gonna figure out a way to involve Isabella in all this, because the. It's. It's crazy there. Listen, send me your individualized tiktoks. Get ready with me for Radio Row. Only if your name is Isabella.

[Chris]

We've had a bunch of emails asking to make that public because people want to see that content.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Get ready with me, though. I'm not cute when I'm putting my makeup on. And I also don't need a. Exactly. And I don't need a million people going, that is not how you're supposed to use concealer. And although. Well, it's what I. I got it all on my own here, folks. Thank you so much for Listening casuals with Katie nolanmail.com if you want to email us 646-801-0043 for our voicemail on IG and TikTok we are at CasualsThePodcast. We will see you guys from San Francisco. Don't forget we're gonna put out our first episode on Wednesday next week. So it's gonna be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday episodes instead of our usual because we don't get out there till Tuesday. So just give us bear with us for that. But we're giving you three episodes next week. We will see you then. We love you. We mean it. Go Patriots. Bye. This Valentine's Day, let Edible help you share the love with same day and next day delivery or local pickup, we make it easy to be the hero of the holiday. Choose from our signature fresh fruit arrangements, indulgent dessert boards, or baked treats that arrive ready to wow. Whether it's for a new flame or your forever sweetheart, let Edible arrange the details so you can focus on the moment. Order [e-mail] or visit your local store today to find the perfect gift.

[Adam Schein]

Low Carb, no carb Anti Inflammatory There's a diet for every buzzword at Anytime Fitness. Our coaches use your body scan to help take the guesswork out of eating right so you can forget the fads and stick to the science. Join Anytime Fitness.