College Football Villains, plus Naughty, Nice, & Matty Ice | with Matt Ryan

Summary

Podcast Summary: College Football Villains, plus Naughty, Nice, & Matty Ice | with Matt Ryan

Podcast: Casuals with Katie Nolan (SiriusXM)
Date: December 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively, joke-filled episode opens with Katie and her co-hosts bantering over current sports headlines, including college football scandal fallout, Heisman drama, and NFL chaos. The main event is a fun, candid interview with former NFL MVP Matt Ryan—“Matty Ice”—who drops insights on aging QBs, NFL rivalries, quarterback “gifts,” and participates in a quickfire “Naughty or Nice” segment. The team closes out with a grab bag of pop culture, NBA, NHL news, and their trademark irreverent sports analysis, making this a welcoming listen for casual fans and sports obsessives alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Lighthearted Banter & Casual Headlines (01:27–12:18)

• Opening Banter: The crew (Katie, Isabella, Chris, Brady) riff on a viral story about a woman giving birth in a Waymo self-driving car. This quickly devolves into jokes about Google, privacy, and hypothetical customer support (“Can you turn off the car’s eyes?” — Katie, 02:07).
• Listener Engagement: Katie reads and reacts to listener emails/voicemails about ski racing (Lindsey Vonn’s comeback), Pat McAfee’s “AI-sounding” song, outdated Grinch movies, and embarrassing home videos.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “If you can’t be alone in an elevator with a woman because of your faith, that’s not faith, my guy.” (Katie, 18:35)

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2. College Football Scandal & Media Fallout (12:19–21:53)

• Sharon Moore Story:
  • The group breaks down the Michigan head coach’s firing for an affair and subsequent legal trouble.
  • Katie laments media misinformation and how quickly narratives spiral online (“You had to take it upon yourself...I’m not saying that until that is verified by somebody.” – Katie, 15:44).
• Gender Dynamics:
  • They discuss how quickly blame shifted to the woman involved and critique takes like “never be alone with a woman,” describing it as “absurd” (Katie, 18:35).
• Dark Humor:
  • “You don’t get to be a good man if you literally can’t be alone with a woman…let’s grow up, okay?” (Katie, 20:49)

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3. Interview: Matt Ryan (Matty Ice) Joins the Show (25:58–41:50)

NFL Quarterbacks: Age, Comebacks, and Physical Toll

• On Coming Out of Retirement:

  • “I could be really hard for me to do it right now. I can’t imagine an additional four years from now…” (Matt Ryan, 27:18)
  • Tells a story about throwing with Matthew Stafford and realizing he’s done with “full speed” throws (27:41).
  • Confirms Colts didn’t call him to come back: “I’m officially no longer in the Rolodex of teams looking for 40 year old quarterbacks.” (Matt Ryan, 29:21)

• Playbook Complexity:

  • Explains that Philip Rivers was able to return at 44 due to deep ties with the Colts’ system and remaining in the coaching loop.

NFL Insight: Teams, Dynasties, and Surprises

• On the Chiefs’ Collapse:
  • “I think there’s a lot of reasons why it didn’t go well for the Chiefs…Patrick [Mahomes] is one of the all-time best…but you need pieces around you.” (Matt Ryan, 32:15)
• Patriots Surprise Season:
  • Credits their “good vibes” and team unity, calls a recent loss “a good little reset before heading into the playoffs.” (35:39)
• Best Team in the NFL:
  • Picks the Rams: “I think they’re the most complete team in the NFL.” (Matt Ryan, 36:35)

NFL Traditions & Fun: Gifts, Rivalries, and Quick Takes

• Best O-Line Gift:
  • “I think one year I got them drones…But I think the one they used the most was the Big Green Egg grills.” (Matt, 38:12)
• Favorite Rivalry:
  • “Falcons-Saints” to play in; “Bears-Packers” is NFL’s best (37:28).

Naughty or Nice Segment (39:33–41:04)

Quick opinions on NFL hot takes:

• Buccaneers should always wear Creamsicles – “Nice.”
• Jaguars can win the Super Bowl – “Naughty.”
• Pats nickname (“The Pates”) better than “Pats” – “Naughty.”
• Drake May is Patriots’ second-best QB ever – “Nice.”
• Eagles offense back? – “Naughty.”
• Stafford for MVP? “Nice”—over Josh Allen.

Fatherhood & Super Bowl Wounds

• Jokes about “6 and 7” age of his twin boys and old “28-3” Falcons-Patriots loss (41:23)
  • “I think I still hate 28-3 more than I hate 6-7.” (Matt Ryan, 41:47)

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4. NFL News Roundup & Banter (41:54–55:14)

• Hailee Steinfeld Pregnancy News (Josh Allen’s partner).
• Patriots’ Meltdown: Katie and Dan’s “vibes” as fans.
• Gardner Minshew’s Lore: Mustache legacy, nickname “Jockstrap King,” and explanation of jock straps for the sports-newbie audience.
• Tom Brady’s Gift Expose: Only leased luxury SUVs for his O-line (52:46).
  • “Tom’s gotta look out for Tom…is it cheaper to lease a car for a year than to just buy?” (52:53)

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5. College Football: Heisman Drama (55:14–62:08)

• Heisman awarded to Fernando Mendoza (Indiana QB)—first for the school and first Cuban American.
• Heartfelt Speech:
  • “I was you. I was that kid too…You just need discipline, heart, and people who believe in you.” (Fernando Mendoza, 57:44)
• Runner-Up Diego Pavia’s Meltdown:
  • “F all the voters, but family for life” – mocked by the crew as “loser behavior.” (58:49)
  • Follow-up: Pavia apologizes publicly.

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6. NBA Cup, NHL Blockbuster, and Pop Culture (62:13–81:04)

• NBA Cup Roundup:
  • Spurs–Thunder, Wembanyama’s dominance, confusion on the tournament’s record-keeping (64:12).
  • “If they ate a sentient Pop-Tart after winning the cup, then I’m in.” (Brady, 68:47)
• Trinity Rodman & NWSL’s “High Impact Player” Rule:
  • Explains attempts to keep stars in the U.S. vs. higher European pay (69:00)
• NHL Trade:
  • Quinn Hughes to the Wild—a shock considering brothers, family, stats (72:06)
• Fast & Furious 12: Cristiano Ronaldo cameo teased (76:06).
• Lakeith Stanfield as Dennis Rodman: In “48 Hours in Vegas” (79:32).
• Hugh Jackman: Peed himself hitting an F-sharp onstage (81:24).

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7. Fan Reactions & International Sports (83:02–90:28)

• Messi in India Disappoints Fans: Paid a week’s wage for a 20 min stroll; no apology (“A spokesperson for Messi said they fulfilled the commitment.” – 84:33).
• Finnish Soccer Stadium Fire: Set by an under-15 fan after relegation (86:35).
• John Cena’s Retirement: Tapped out in his final WWE match, fans upset, but panel supports his exit “putting over” new stars (87:31).

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8. What’s On This Week: Viewing Guide (95:48–101:13)

Curated by Chris:

• Women's college volleyball Final Four & championship.
• Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua boxing match.
• World Darts Championship on Peacock.
• Luke Littler update and notable Americans/Australians.

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9. Housekeeping: Holiday Schedule (93:30–95:37)

• Details on upcoming special episodes:
  • Ashton Battuso
  • Katie & Dan Soder’s “road trip” podcasts
  • Casuals’ Christmas episode
  • Charlotte Wilder on New Year's recap

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Notable Quotes

• “If you can’t be alone in an elevator with a woman because of your faith, that’s not faith, my guy.” (Katie, 18:35)
• “I’m officially no longer in the Rolodex of teams looking for 40 year old quarterbacks.” (Matt Ryan, 29:21)
• “You don’t get to be a good man if you literally can’t be alone with a woman. Let’s grow up, okay?” (Katie, 20:49)
• “It’s loser behavior, so I guess it adds up.” (Chris, on Diego Pavia’s Heisman meltdown, 63:26)
• “I think I still hate 28-3 more than I hate 6-7.” (Matt Ryan, 41:47, referencing his Super Bowl heartbreak vs. parenting twin boys)

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Memorable Moments & Jokes

• Isabella’s very real confusion over jock straps (49:06–50:34)
• Katie confides she submitted a song for the Jim Carrey Grinch movie as a kid—her mom thought she was talking to Jim Carrey online (10:26)
• The show invents “Bonnie Blue Challenge: F all the voters” — joking about Diego Pavia’s Instagram post (58:49)
• “If the NBA champions ate a sentient Pop-Tart after winning, then I’m in.” (Brady, 68:47)
• “Did you ever think you’d hate a combination of two numbers more than 28 and 3?” (Katie, 41:40)

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Important Timestamps

• Listener Mail & Voicemails: 04:51–12:18
• Sharon Moore/Michigan Scandal: 12:19–21:53
• Matt Ryan Interview: 25:58–41:50
• NFL News (Minshew, Brady, Steinfeld): 41:54–55:14
• Heisman Drama: 55:14–62:08
• NBA Cup, NHL & Pop Culture: 62:13–81:04
• Fans & Int’l Sports: 83:02–90:28
• What to Watch: 95:48–101:13

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Episode Tone & Style

• Fun, irreverent, welcoming: The podcast invites both “sports-curious” and seasoned fans, mixing humor, pop culture, and deep concern for how sports narratives form online.
• Original speaker language: Casual, sarcastic, and smart—never shying away from calling out “absurd” media or sports takes.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a fantastic showcase of the show’s mix: accessible sports news, relatable confessions, pop-culture tie-ins, and inside-perspective interviews, all with a “No Old Men Yelling” guarantee.

Transcript

[Katie Nolan]

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[Isabella]

I knew it was gonna be a Waymox. And did the. Did the Waymo drive her to the hospital?

[Katie Nolan]

I would hope so. That was way mo than she bargained for fo. That was way more than she bargained fo. Let me see. The mother was on her way to the medical center when she delivered inside the robo taxi, said a Waymo spokesperson. Imagine having somebody do press about your birth canal. It's just a crazy, like, you don't know me.

[Isabella]

I would be in the Waymill giving birth, and I'd be like, I know you're not a real person, but can you not look at me? Like, can you please, like, close the.

[Katie Nolan]

Car'S eyes in whatever way that happens? Can you turn off the cameras, please? Please? The company said its rider support team detected unusual activity inside the vehicle. And it makes you wonder, how did it smell it? Like, there's no way. How did it know? Crazy. Declined. Okay, weirder. Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company, Alphabet, declined to elaborate on how the vehicle knew something was amiss.

[Isabella]

Oh, I don't like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Tell me why Google.

[Isabella]

I don't like that.

[Katie Nolan]

The company said it has cameras and microphones inside as well as outside the cars.

[Isabella]

So there is someone looking at you?

[Katie Nolan]

I think so. Crazy. Cuz I'd be picking my nose and wiping it all up in that place. Like, what do you mean? It's. Nobody's in this car. This is nobody's car. What are you. Is a voice gonna go, Ma', am, please stop doing that. That's fucking scary. We can see you.

[Chris]

Hello.

[Katie Nolan]

Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast. That's like getting really excited. Cause this is about to go on vacation. But don't worry, we're gonna give you episodes. Don't freak. It's just gonna. They'll be on the road. We'll get to all of this in a little. It's a sports podcast. I'm your host, Katie Nolan, joined today by my casualties. Isabella, our sports newbie is here.

[Isabella]

Hello.

[Katie Nolan]

We've got Chris, our master editor.

[Chris]

Hi.

[Katie Nolan]

And then say what's up to Brady.

[Brady]

Hey.

[Katie Nolan]

Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Lots of good stuff coming up on the show today. Matt Ryan is here. What a legit. We put on our best clothes. I made sure I had real pants on. Because Matt Ryan is here. We're going to talk to him about what it would be like to be old and in the NFL because as we all know, Philip Rivers, 44 years old, a grandpa, played quarterback in the NFL this weekend. We also talked to him about a bunch of other stuff. So that'll be coming up in a little bit. We're also going to get to the drama around the Heisman. There was a big trade in the NHL. Honestly, so much stuff to get to today. We're gonna start up top with a couple of listener emails and voicemails. We usually call that housekeeping. Usually pertains to old stuff that we've talked about. And then we're gonna get into this Sharon Moore thing that has been developing since over the weekend. And there's a lot more details now than we had before. And then we'll just. You know what? I'll stop telling you what we're gonna do and let's just do it first. I gotta let you know how to reach me and the gang if you wanna talk to us. Casuals with Katie nolanmail.com our voicemail is 646810 43. And on IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. Chris, get us started with an email.

[Chris]

The first email that we have is From Audrey from Massachusetts, shout out. You might remember when Audrey emo in talking about slalom a couple of months back or a month back, however long.

[Katie Nolan]

Ago, and then you thought that it was slalom, but go ahead. Yes, continue.

[Chris]

Audrey said. I'm back with some more ski racing news. This time the disciplines are hopefully less controversial. To Chris. For Chris to pronounce. We'll see about that. On Friday, Lindsey Vaughn won the downhill race in San Morris. I actually had a look at how to pronounce that because I was worried. I read through this email and I wanted to make sure that I got everything correct. So San Moritz. This is her first victory since 2018. Before she retired. On Saturday, she placed second in the downhill. On Sunday, in Super G, she placed fourth, which is still incredibly impressive. New Zealand skier Alice Robinson was won the Super G. She's been having a fantastic season so far, and this was her first ever Super G win. All in all, Lindsey Vonn appears to be back and a huge force to be reckoned with at the Olympics.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Wow. What a big comeback from Lindsey Vonn. How old is she? I mean, she's coming back from a massive injury. That's exciting and interesting. And good job saying downhill race. That was exactly right.

[Chris]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

And Super G, that's how we say.

[Chris]

It in Australia too. So I didn't know if in Australia.

[Katie Nolan]

They call it Super Jed or something.

[Chris]

We have a voice on 41, by the way.

[Katie Nolan]

41 man shout out.

[Brady]

Over 40 athletes this week.

[Katie Nolan]

For real. I love all of them. I truly do. Let's listen to a voicemail. Do we have one?

[Chris]

Yes, we have one from Jake from Ottawa. Let's have a listen.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Matt Ryan]

I do love you guys and I mean it. I'm also kind of mad because I just listened to Pat McAfee's song and I wouldn't know he even had a.

[Chris]

Song if it wasn't for your podcast.

[Matt Ryan]

And I would have had to know that there were lyrics to this awful, awful song if it wasn't for your podcast. And I'm pretty upset about it. Love you.

[Chris]

Mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

I love you. I mean it too. Love you. Mean it too, Jake. And I am sorry. I Am sorry lyrics, by the way. I've been keeping my tabs on this updated over the weekend. They were before they were just like written in the Apple music, but they weren't dynamic. You know how if you turn lyrics on for Apple music and it'll like, move with the song and now they're all corrected. They're the right words and they move with the song. So clearly he, you know, had somebody on that. I'm working up conspiracy theories about this at this point, because when I first heard it, I'm like, gotta be AI generated. So then to hear all the people involved in it, I'm like, but it gives very much gives AI generated, doesn't it?

[Isabella]

I thought you were just gonna end the sentence there. I was like, katie, it very much does.

[Katie Nolan]

It doesn't give. It does not give. It does not give. Usually on stuff like this, Isabella, you can tell. She's like, I don't really know the context. I'm not trying to upset anybody. She has been like, I will talk to you about this song. This is the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. She is. It has upset her in a way that. Thank you. I needed to see people upset about it because I only saw people going, like, hell, yeah, Boogeyman is spooky. And I just don't get it. I don't understand how you have seven or eight songs coming that you don't know how many there are. And I don't understand that you said they're going to be rolled out over the course of the next few weeks or months. What is this release schedule? Is this an album? Whose fault is this, and why is it happening?

[Chris]

I also like how calmly Jake delivered his anger and frustration to us. He wasn't yelling. It was a matter of fact.

[Katie Nolan]

He's so right. He's so right.

[Chris]

It was hilarious.

[Katie Nolan]

And I guess we reserve space for the rest of this album because the way Pat talks about it on his show is that it's gon. He wants to leave his kids something, so if he dies young, his kids will know exactly who their father was. So I'm gonna leave room for these next few songs to be good. But if this is the level that they're at, I don't know what to do with that. I feel bad, but I don't know what to do with that. You didn't have to make an album. Why?

[Brady]

Pat worried there was gonna be no recordings of him at all, anywhere, doing anything for real.

[Katie Nolan]

They'll know who you were just by all the sleeveless footage that we have. They can watch plenty, plenty of tape. All right, and then we have another email before we hop into this crazy story in college football.

[Chris]

Yeah. Our final email for today is from Lindsay in an email that was titled Just to Upset Katie.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, good.

[Chris]

I love in the body of the email, Lindsay said sending this because in the last week's episode, Katie called it the new Grinch with Jim Carrey. And that movie definitely came out 25 years ago. Okay. Love you mean it. 25 years ago. Which means that movie came around before Drake May was born.

[Katie Nolan]

Shut up.

[Chris]

Before Marcelo Meyer was born. Before Anthony Edwards was born.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Isabella]

That is the new Grinch, though.

[Chris]

25 years.

[Katie Nolan]

Is there a newer Grinch? Hasn't. Has another Grinch happened? Of the Grinches. That's the new one.

[Chris]

It might be.

[Isabella]

And the worst one. Sorry.

[Brady]

The song. That movie came out so long ago that Cindy Lou, who had a rock career and then also now has a post rock career where she's making Taylor Momson.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. At least she's got her. She knows what her makeup look is. I just do wish it would change a little bit. Like she's been rocking that exact same look.

[Brady]

She was like pre Smokey Eye and past post Smokey Eye.

[Katie Nolan]

I'll admit something embarrassing. That Jim Carrey movie was so long ago that they had a song contest for if you could write a song and they would use it in the movie. And my mom and I wrote. I submitted a song as however old I was. This is a really convoluted story, but basically my mom thought she was talking to Jim Carrey online. It gets really deep. There's many layers to it.

[Isabella]

No, but anyway, you need to unpack off podcast.

[Katie Nolan]

Anyway. But anyway, we wrote a song called Whose Love Grows. I vaguely remember it. Aw, sweet. And we didn't win. So that being 25 years ago, I guess does make sense.

[Isabella]

My name is Katie and I'm here to say.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you have it there in front of you? Have you heard it? How'd you get that file?

[Isabella]

How did you know I hit up your mom. She sent it to me.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, she would too, if we still had it. And I'm sure it is somewhere. Here's the crazy thing about your parents. Let me know if anyone else's parents have done this. When it comes to embarrassing home videos, it's either somewhere in the attic with no way for us to watch it, or they've accidentally uploaded it to the Internet. My parents sent our, like, home videos to a company that digitizes them. But then she was like, and look, it's just hosted on this web server. And I was like, great. So what I'm gonna need you to do is password protect that to the gods. Okay. You can't just have my home movies out on the. I mean, it's crazy. They don't understand clouds at all, these people, but neither do I. All right, let's Talk about now. We're calling this a yap, but I'm looking at my, my three casualties. I need you on this. This story gives me so much anxiety. This Sharon Moore story that broke kind of at the end of last week, over the weekend. He was the head coach of Michigan. He was fired on December 10, which is what, Wednesday?

[Brady]

Yeah. After credible afternoon.

[Katie Nolan]

Wednesday afternoon after credible evidence found he had allegedly engaged in an inappropriate with a staff member. Hours later, he was detained by police and arrested after officers responded to an alleged assault. And then on December 12, he was arraigned on charges of felony home invasion, misdemeanor stalking and entering without permission. So December 12th was Friday. The days between the Wednesday firing and the Friday 1 o'. Clock. Finding out what the actual charges were was not a shining moment for sports media. I'll say a little bit stressful to be on air, to be honest, at a time like this, when the head coach of Michigan is fired and immediately there's like rumors, a million things that we all saw online. And I've said this before on this podcast, thank God that when you're from when you're not familiar with moving around within a space, let's say college football, not my sport. I don't know all the players online in terms of like the people who participate in conversations, the reporters, the podcasters. I don't immediately recognize who are like the leading voices to trust and who is just a guy who pays $8 a month to have access to Twitter and therefore has a check mark. It's harder to suss out the truth. And it felt like a lot of people were chasing after the more sensational aspects of this story that involved things like door dashing, plan B or only fans, models. That was, it became, it suddenly became very confusing to figure out what was real and what was just people trying to guess what was happening. And I really, I don't know about everybody else here's experience, but I found myself really missing just a reporter who would come out and go like, I've talked to the local law enforcement. These are the charges. Here's the timeline as it la out. Here's what happened, here's what's being alleged. And instead it was just sort of left to like you figure out if this sounds real or not. And so that I will say a very frustrating moment. As a person who has always, I've never, I've never reported. I'm not a good, that's not my, I don't like picking up a phone and making a phone Call, ironically enough, I get too anxious. But there are people that used to do that. And then the discussions would happen based off the information. And it just felt like there was plenty of misinformation that would lead to a very interesting discussion and would lead to good content. And you had to sort of take it upon yourself to go, I'm not saying that until that is verified by somebody. And so to have a show where you got to open up to callers on a day when everybody thought that all these crazy things, it was just a lot. And then when you boil down to it, the story itself is a lot. There's a lot of elements to this. This is a coach that, from what it sounds like, everybody in college football knew this was happening. Happening has been happening for years. This is just the way this guy conducts himself with, I believe, various women. I don't know if that's been confirmed. She was promoted to his assistant, and then has it been confirmed that he fired her? And that's when she went to the school and gave them the information that they needed to confirm they were trying to investigate their relationship. According to the school, they did not find enough credible evidence to actually say that it was happening. And then he was given the opportunity to either move her to another department or fire her. He said, fire her. And then when she was fired, she went in and gave the school. Even as I'm saying that, did I get got. I don't know if that's true. What I do know is that this man, who has three daughters, very publicly cheated on his wife with his assistant. They have a morality clause or whatever in their contract, in their contract with him. So they were able to fire him for cause and they don't owe him any money. There's just a lot of aspects of the story that are a bummer. Then there's a lot of aspects of the story that are, like, deeply personal to some people. And then there's a lot of aspects of the story that people want to find funny. I don't know what to do with it. I want to say this one thing, though. First of all, as I've been saying, be careful when engaging in these discussions. There is a family involved. A lot of. I don't know. Whenever I see anything come into a headline that's already popping off and it's about only fans, I go like, that's probably pro. That's probably marketing. It's probably brilliant marketing. But in a. In a platform where it's just, you got to get your name out there, this Is it? I don't know. Just be wary, I guess, is what I'm saying. But the other thing is, I was really disappointed to see how quickly the conversation turned to. And that's why you shouldn't hire women. And it was like, wait, what do you mean by that? How could this. How could we possibly be here? A lot of people have villainized this woman who was the assistant. I. Again, it's hard to know with the information that we have just how bad of a situation this was or how much of it was, quote, unquote, her fault. We don't really know the dynamic. We don't know if it was a power situation where she didn't have any leverage. We don't know. But a lot of people were very quick to jump to conclusions, including former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who tweeted this. My college head coach had a personal rule that he would never be alone with a woman, not even in an elevator. Some people thought it was weird, unnecessary, or overly pious. He considered it a guardrail for himself to honor his wife, his faith, and his responsibility to everyone in the building. As a college athlete, I didn't fully understand. As a grown man, I get it, and I'm grateful. If you can't be alone in an elevator with a woman, an elevator for a few minutes with a woman because of your faith. That's not faith, my guy. If your faith is, the second somebody tests your loyalty, you fold. You're not loyal. That's like saying, I didn't want to betray my wife, so I killed every woman on the planet, and now we're good. No, we're not good. You're incapable of not cheating on your wife, which is absurd. We're not going to protect this. He's a good man. You don't get to be a good man if you literally can't be alone with a woman. What are you guys. Is everybody fucking okay? That's an absurd take. That sounds like. Was it Hunter Pence who said this? I won't go out to dinner with a woman or not. Hunter Pence, obviously very different.

[Chris]

I wonder where you would go with that.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm like, hang on, wait, is that the Giants guy who was on our show?

[Isabella]

Okay, okay.

[Chris]

A buddy.

[Katie Nolan]

What the fuck? Why did I come for 100 pence like that?

[Chris]

I got really worried really quickly.

[Katie Nolan]

Really nice. Crazy Hunter. I'm so sorry. Although he does call Alexis mother. And who doesn't? No, but didn't Mike Pence.

[Matt Ryan]

This is like Mike Pence did.

[Katie Nolan]

This makes me feel like I love that. He's like, you know, in college, I didn't get it, but now totally get it. It's like, well, pull his hard drive because. What are you talking about? What do you mean you totally get it. It's. Guys, it's not that hard to not cheat on your wife. Let's grow up, okay? It's not that hard to not cheat on your wife. Please stop getting married. If you'd like to cheat on your wife. If you're a guy who wants to fuck around, then go ahead and do that. But, bro, you are the head coach of Michigan, their first black head coach. This is the part that makes me so mad. It's like, how is this ending? Like this? This guy threw away all of this. The charges are that he then, after being fired, showed up at the house of the woman he was having the affair with and rummaged through a drawer and pulled out various butter knives and kitchen shears, like scissors, and threatened to kill himself and said, you're gonna watch. Like, you ruined my life. It just is like, you ruined your life, buddy. You did. It was you. All you had to do was, like, not openly cheat on your wife. All you had to do was, like, coach this team and make that giant paycheck and not cheat on your wife. You know, and then it's just hard as a woman to not immediately think of. Anytime you've had a guy have a crash out, a guy that cheats on you have a crash out. Isabella, has that ever happened to you? Have you ever been. It's brutal.

[Isabella]

I've heard some. I've heard some crazy ones.

[Katie Nolan]

It's brutal. There's just a. It's a. Actually A. A genre of content that will sometimes pop up in the stock algorithm. I'm not proud of this, but it is my. Where it's just a woman filming a man who has destroyed their relationship, like, sobbing and having, like, a full crash out where they, like, beg and beg. And it is really triggering if you've been through anything similar. And obviously, again, we don't know how this happened, but it just is. It just was a mess. And I see everybody getting their takes off on the Internet. I wanted to. We updated our listeners on what the story was and what we know, and that's basically it. And we'll keep an eye on how this goes. He's out on bail, right? Brady? He's, like, not at. He's not in jail anymore.

[Brady]

Yeah. Bail bond. One of the two.

[Katie Nolan]

And then when's the next. Do we know that I don't know the next update on it. Well, we'll check back in a month and see what happens. Just a sad, stupid story and kind of a real bummer, you know? Yeah, right. So anyway, let's go ahead and use this opportunity. We'll take a quick break and when we come back, we'll be joined by the one, the only, Matty Ice. It's Matt Ryan. This is Casuals and we'll be right back. Before I knew about Viori, I really struggled with stuff that was comfortable and also looks good and makes me feel good. And then I found Viori. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes. They move with me. I can go from like lounging at home to layering up for my commute to then looking cute on camera as we head into fall and winter. Viori's loungewear is designed to keep up with your life because we all do a lot of things. Sure, I like to do a lot of sitting, but then I also have to get up and go outside and do stuff. And I can wear Viori for both of those things. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential Wide leg pant are made with Vori's signature Dream Knit fabric. It's super soft, it's stretchy, it's lightweight, it's moisture wicking. Truly, it's effortless. And I love my Halo wide leg pants. That's my errand pant. Vori is an investment in your happiness for our listeners. They're offering 20% off your first purchase. Everybody say thank you. Vori. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the [e-mail] casuals that's V O R I.com casuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. You know you don't have to let big wireless and your overpriced phone bill suck the joy out of the holidays this year. Because right now all of Mint Mobile's Unlimited plans are 50% off. You can get 3, 6 or 12 months of unlimited premium wireless for 15 bucks a month. It's their best deal of the year and makes it real easy for you to give your expensive wireless bill the Scrooge treatment. Turn your expensive wireless present into a huge wireless savings future by switching to Mint Shop. Mint unlimited [e-mail] casuals that's mintmobile.com casuals limited time offer upfront payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six month or $180 for 12 month plan required $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra initial Plan term only over 35 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. Capable device required Availability speed and coverage varies cement mobile.com running out of contact lenses can be stressful, especially when relying on old glasses. Especially if you don't particularly like your glasses and you're embarrassed to be wearing them. 1-800-contacts offers an easy online prescription Rene ensuring fast access to replacement lenses with free shipping. The company delivers doctor prescribed contacts directly to customers doors without the need to leave home. For over 30 years, 1, 800 contacts has been the leader in online contact lens delivery with millions of contacts in stock and their 24,7 customer support is there if you ever need help, day or night. I like 1, 800 contacts because I often run out of contacts and need new ones and they deliver them right to my house and it's so easy and I barely have to talk to anyone. I'm ashamed of not wanting to talk to anyone. But sometimes you just want push a couple buttons and get your contacts and 1-800-contacts allows for that. Getting contacts does not have to be a hassle. Let 1, 800 contacts get you the contact lenses you need right now. Order online at 1800contacts.com or download the free 1-800-contacts app today.

[Matt Ryan]

The College Football Playoff is everything. Toughness, growth, sacrifices, life are focused. This is where I think everything you got all damn day. The attention to detail is like none other.

[Chris]

Be physical, be we are.

[Matt Ryan]

The Chilean takes on Ole Miss, followed by James Madison in Oregon.

[Katie Nolan]

It's time to bring it first round.

[Matt Ryan]

Coverage of the college Football playoffs presented by allstate Saturday at 3:30 Eastern on TNT and HBO. Max, are you ready? Let's go.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Welcome back. NFL Christmas game day returns to Netflix in 2025 with two marquee games that will showcase NFC division rivals facing off streaming live on Netflix. We've got Cowboys Commanders that will air at 1pm Eastern from Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland, followed by Lions Vikings at 4:30pm Eastern from the U.S. bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Pregame coverage begins at 11am Eastern. Joining us now is the man who will be on the call for that Cowboys Commanders game. He's also the 2016 NFL MVP, as well as a member of CBS's NFL Today as a studio analyst. It's the one, the only, Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan, thank you for being here.

[Matt Ryan]

Of course. Thank you for having me on.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it's good to see you. It' a It's been a minute. It's very good to see you. We wanted to talk to you about a number of things. I will remind you the point of this podcast is ideally to appeal to casual fans. So we're just trying to help people better understand. And I think one of the things people were confused by this week is we had a 44 year old starting at quarterback for the Colts. A number of questions for you on this, but I guess we'll start with how hard would it be to go back and play at the NF? I mean, you're only 40, correct?

[Matt Ryan]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

How hard would this be for you to go back and play right now?

[Matt Ryan]

I could be really hard for me to do it right now. I can't imagine an additional four years from now having to go do it. I'll be honest with you. So I am friends with the quarterback of the Los Angeles Rams, Matthew Stafford, and we were together this summer and he's, you know, it's like July and he's trying to get ready, he's throwing a little bit to get ready for training camp and he's like, hey, will you catch for me?

[Katie Nolan]

Me?

[Matt Ryan]

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course I'll come catch for you, whatever. And I'm catching and I'm throwing back and like, I work out with them for like a half hour, 45 minutes and my arm started to feel pretty good. So at the end of the workout I'm like, hey man, spot up a couple for me. Like, let me throw. I woke up the next day, my arm was like hanging down sideways and it was. I made a decision with myself that that would be the last time I ever throw, like all out, full speed. Never again. So I couldn't imagine doing not only that, but having to get hit and like, and do all of that stuff at this age. But he did it. He made it through. He survived.

[Katie Nolan]

They almost won. It was close. They.

[Matt Ryan]

He gave him a chance, which was really cool to see. I'm happy. I've known Philip for a long time and played against him a ton and know how competitive he is and I saw him make comments. I'd like tell anybody to go check out his post game interview. But talking about his kids and like the motivation and all of that stuff, I thought it was really cool.

[Katie Nolan]

I thought it was cool too. His pregame interview when he was like, you know, this is. You doubt, you doubt yourself and you wonder if it's gonna work out and you. He really sounds like a player coach. It sounds like he's out there like game managing. He knows his limitations. He knows he's not gonna be because that must be hard too. You get out there and you're like, I remember how I used to do it and you have to go. But I'm not my age, I'm 44 now. I have to play a little bit differently. We were trying to guess the order of the phone calls that the Colts made and our best guess was that they called you then Andrew Luck, then Phillip Rivers. Can you confirm or did you get a phone call asking you to come back?

[Matt Ryan]

No, they didn't call. Damn me. They must have heard about that workout I had with Matthew Stafford during the summer and said, we're good, we're done. If you can't make it through that, you can't make it through a game. Chris Ballard, the GM of the Colts, did not call me. So I'm officially no longer in the Rolodex of teams looking for 40 year old quarterbacks.

[Katie Nolan]

Does that hurt? I've aged out this at all. Does it bum you out?

[Matt Ryan]

No, no. I saw my workout. I was there with it. I get it. Yeah, I understand where they're coming from.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I, I mean, listen, from a practical standpoint, I've never seen a playbook or needed to understand one, but I know enough to know there's a lot in there and it's very complex. How, how can. I mean, taking away the physical aspect mentally at 30, I'm what, 38, almost 39. I'm already starting to slow in, in terms of picking up information. How is it possible that Philip Rivers can come back, look at that playbook and like run it? Does it not change so much since his last time there?

[Matt Ryan]

So I think one of the backstories to this, which I think the casual fan will be interested in, right, is Philip and the head coach of the Colts, Shane Steichen are like super tight. So Shane Steichen was Phillip's quarterback coach in San Diego when he was with the Chargers for like five years. And Philip was coaching high school football and running the same offense, like the same terminology for his high school football team. And I guess would he and Shane would like talk every week, you know, he'd be asking him certain questions about what coverages they were running, certain plays. And then Philip, you know, so there was a back and forth all season. And I think one of the reasons Philip made sense in this scenario, and I guess I'm justifying it, this is the reason I didn't get the call was because I had not been on those calls with Shane Steichen all year. So I think that helped because to Your point? There's a ton. There's a ton you have to learn and like a ton that you have to know just to be able to break the huddle, let alone like go play the play. And for him to be able to do that, I thought that was just as impressive as making it through the game.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, amazing. Absolutely incredible. Let's talk about the Chiefs, because bummer they're not going to be. I mean, it's not a bummer to a lot of people. A lot of people are kind of excited. But I think it is a bummer the way it happened with Pat Mahomes leaving for like basically that last play. And also just, I don't know if you feel an ounce of sympathy to a quarterback like Gardner Minshew who has to step up in that situation and basically, you know, say, like, I. There's not really anything I can do, but the thing I did is definitely not something you want to do. He threw a piss.

[Matt Ryan]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

It's just a tough, a tough end to the season. Why didn't it work for the Chiefs this year, do you think?

[Matt Ryan]

Well, I'm with you. I was. I feel awful for Patrick. You know, it's. It's hard enough they had been so consistent and to not make the playoffs, obviously that, that part is disappointing. But to, to then tear your ACL and, and to have that, you know, we'll see how the recovery is, but you know how that's going to affect next season, that just. It sucks. You know, it sucks for him. I think there's a lot of reasons why it didn't go well for the Chiefs. I think Patrick is one of the all time best to ever do it at the quarterback position. But you can't do it alone, you know, you need pieces around you. They struggled on the offensive line all year. When you're getting hit nonstop, it's just difficult to like overcome that. I think defensively, same thing. Like defensive line, not as good as they need it to be. Not that great defending the run, not that great at rushing the passer. So I think they need more pieces. Like, I think Patrick needs help and they need a more consistent in rhythm passing game and I think they need to run the football. So I think that's, it's a lot of things and I think they need some new pieces for that team moving forward. But I'm bummed, you know, because I, I think it is, it's always great. Like if you're a fan of these dynasty teams, you're, you know, you're Bummed. But I do think it's great when they're in the playoffs and you have this up and comer. Come beat them in the playoffs. Yeah, like to unseat them. Unseat them from the throne in the playoffs. So, you know, from, from the fans perspective, I would have liked to have seen that. But just a disappointing season overall for Kansas City. City.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's a really good point, actually, that, like, going out this way is sort of like, oh, does it feel like it's over? Does it feel. I know it's over for this season, but does it feel like the dynasty run is done? You're in the hot take business now, so this is. You got to serve.

[Matt Ryan]

This is like, this is super mild take. I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

Great. Really good. Really good.

[Matt Ryan]

No, I mean, how are you going to count out? Like, I think, I mean, listen, you're a Boston fan, and so like New England kind of went through this. They had those. That first run at championships and then kind of a figuring out period and then another run at championships. I feel like Kansas City could very much be like that, where it takes maybe a year or two or three to kind of retool all the pieces. But I, I for sure think Patrick Mahomes is, Is. Is. Is going to make another run at another championship or two or three.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. You heard it here first. Speaking of those Patriots, a big surprise. How much of a surprise has that been for you this season? Seeing how. Well, I know they're coming off a loss and it was a particularly annoying one for Patriots fans. But has this surprised you this year?

[Matt Ryan]

I mean, to win 10 in a row? Yeah, I think, I think that was a little surprising. I think Mike Vrabel is an awesome head coach. So that part, like, he knows how to win football games and he knows how to motivate guys and get the best out of guys. Drake May being in the MVP conversation in year two, I think that's a little bit surprising, but he's playing awesome. I actually think that loss was probably a good thing for them.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Matt Ryan]

Like, it's, you know, when you've won that many games in a row, those streaks are always bound to come to an end. End. I'd rather it come to an end in December than in, in January. And maybe it like, heightens the focus, heightens the awareness, heightens the, the level of urgency from. From that locker room. So I think it was a net. Net positive for both. Right. Like Buffalo, you. You want to stay in the mix. Maybe not for Patriots fans. But, like, you want them in the mix. And for New England, it might be a, you know, a good little reset before heading into the playoffs.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, I like that perspective. That makes me feel a lot better because they really are vibes based. It feels like they've got good vibes on that team. They come together. They say they spend their, like, off days watching tape together and, like, hanging out. So it feels like a loss could give them something to sort of bounce back from and rally against. Cause they had been rolling. On that note, who's the best team in the NFL right now?

[Matt Ryan]

I think the Rams. I think the Rams. Yeah, I think the Rams are the best team. Good offense. They run the ball well, they throw it great. Matthew Stafford's playing awesome defense. Really, really good. You got a head coach who's. Who's a Super bowl champion. Like, if they can stay healthy, and I know they took a hit yesterday. Devonte Adams out with the hamstring. But if they can stay healthy, I. I just think. I think they're the most complete team in the NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn, they really look so good. It's like, tough to watch. You're like, okay, we get it. You get it. You can catch everything. You can score every touchdown. Take a break. All right, let's talk Christmas. You are calling Commander's Cowboys on Christmas Day. Which has me wondering, what is your favorite rivalry in the NFL? If you had to pick, My favorite.

[Matt Ryan]

To play in was Falcon Saints. I feel like it's very under the radar, but it's a good rivalry. Both fan bases do not like each other, which is really good. But if you had to ask me what the best one in the NFL is, I think it's Bears. Packers. Yeah, I think that's the best rivalry in the NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

The passion, the. The vitriol between the two. That's a. Yeah, that's a really good call. I also was curious because we know that quarterbacks often give elaborate gifts to their offensive linemen as, like, a thank you for everything you've done in protecting me. And I'm wondering what the best gift is that you've ever given to your Olaf line.

[Matt Ryan]

Great question. You know, obviously, that's in the bot. Like the eye of the. The recipient. Right.

[Brady]

Like, true.

[Matt Ryan]

You'd have to ask them what the best gift was. I think one year I got them drones, like these really cool drones, which was like a completely useless gift. But. But it was kind of cool. And I remember they were like one of our. I can't remember who, but one of our guys was out there like flying this drone right away and crashed it into the top of our facility and like broke it. And I was looking at it, I was like, I just spent a lot of money on that drone and it no longer works. So the drones were pretty cool ones, I think the one that the guys like the best, like our guys were big into barbecue and like grilling and I got those like massive green eggs.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, sick.

[Matt Ryan]

For the guys, which I think that was probably the one they used the most and. And they liked the most.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's a sick gift because that's like, expensive. You would never think to buy it for yourself cuz it's too much. But if you have it, you're going to use it.

[Matt Ryan]

Yeah, it's nice.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. The drones, though, the value of a drone is like a Christmas Day gift like you want them to. So you have to have a gift that somebody opens that's a toy that everybody can play with. And yes, that drone may have died right away, but at least it lived creating that moment. You know what I mean?

[Matt Ryan]

It got 40 seconds of fly time or flight time. Yeah, it had a hell of a ride.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, I have. I'm going to let you go in one second because you've got a lot to do to prep for this game, I imagine. But I just wanted to ask. We're going to do this little segment called Naughty or Nice with Maddie. Okay.

[Matt Ryan]

All right.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm going to give you an NFL opinion and then you're going to determine if it's good or bad. So naughty. If it's a bad opinion, nice. If it's a good one. Okay. Opinion number one. The Buccaneers should just wear the Creamsicle orange at all times.

[Matt Ryan]

Nice.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, right.

[Matt Ryan]

Nice.

[Katie Nolan]

The Jaguars can win the Super Bowl.

[Matt Ryan]

I'm going to say naughty.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Did you want to say I like the Jaguars?

[Matt Ryan]

I like the Jaguars, but I had to pick one of the two. I say naughty.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. All right. The. The Pates makes more sense as a nickname than the Pats.

[Matt Ryan]

Naughty.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. I thought we'd get him on that one. I really did. Okay. Drake May will eventually be the second best quarterback in New England Patriots history.

[Matt Ryan]

Nice.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Okay. Sick. The Eagles offense is back after their 31 to nothing win against the Raiders.

[Matt Ryan]

Naughty.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, right. Good. Caleb Williams will be a top five quarterback in the NFL.

[Matt Ryan]

I'm optimistic. I'll say nice.

[Katie Nolan]

I love that Matthew Stafford should be MVP over Josh Allen.

[Isabella]

Ah.

[Matt Ryan]

Man. Josh is making a strong case. But I'm gonna say nice. I'm gonna say nice. Total body of work.

[Katie Nolan]

Sick. Gardner Minshu has the best mustache in the NFL.

[Matt Ryan]

Naughty. I actually like Mike Brables when he had it going in November.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, good point. Good point. If we're not doing players, if we're including coaches, you're. You're absolutely right. That's maybe your best take. You are in the hot take business, and you're doing a fantastic job at it. Matt, thank you so much. I hope the kids aren't driving you nuts with the 6, 7. I feel like anybody with multiple kids, now, I'm worried about them because of the 6 7.

[Matt Ryan]

I'm over it. I don't know about you. Yeah, I am. I'm over it. But it's like, every day I've got twin boys that are seven.

[Katie Nolan]

No.

[Matt Ryan]

So, yeah, it's like, the worst. It's. It's not good. It's not good. I'm coaching their youth basketball team, and it's like, every time. Every time we're down the court, we're right. It's so brutal.

[Katie Nolan]

Did you ever. Did you ever think you'd hate a combination of two numbers More than 28 and 3?

[Matt Ryan]

I think I still hate 28 and 3 more than I hate 6. 7.

[Katie Nolan]

Fair enough. Thank you, Matt.

[Matt Ryan]

Thanks, Katie.

[Katie Nolan]

All right. Big thanks to Matt Ryan. That was very fun and very cool. Isabella. Can you believe he's. He was very good.

[Isabella]

Was he really?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matt Ryan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Damn.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And 28 to 3. Does that mean anything to you?

[Isabella]

I'm assuming this was my guess. Is that a game that. Like a bad game where he lost? His team lost to score?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, they lost. It was the super bowl. And they were up 28 to 3. And then the Patriots came back and beat them in the first overtime.

[Isabella]

Oh, you're such a bitch for asking that. It's so different when it's Patriots, too.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. You know what?

[Isabella]

I'm just kidding.

[Katie Nolan]

You're not. No, no, no, I am. It was pretty rough. Damn.

[Isabella]

They were up that much?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

In the third quarter, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

First overtime. Super Bowl.

[Katie Nolan]

Did I say that? I started to say that. I said that before Brady did.

[Chris]

I heard it.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. And I was in the marketing suite for it. And you know who loves overtime time? Ad sales people. They were like, hell, yeah. More super bowl ads. Let's go. They were all rooting for it.

[Brady]

Which. Which halftime was that? That was not Justin Timberlake, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Nope. That was. Oh, I was. It was Lady Gaga. I was working. I was on Fox. Like, after Gaga went, they threw to me, and I was like, Checking in on your tweets about Lady Gaga. Patriots are getting their ass kicked at the half, so I'm miserable. And then after that hit, they were like, okay, you're done. You can do whatever you want.

[Matt Ryan]

Want.

[Katie Nolan]

You can. We can take you to the game. And I was like, I don't want to go watch the Patriots lose the Super Bowl. So I was sitting in the trailer watching it, and then they started breaking it down. And I was like, well, okay, I'm not gonna make everybody stay here so I can watch this. So I was like, fine, I'll just go. And then once we got there, I didn't see them score a single point. It was all pates, baby.

[Chris]

So it was you.

[Isabella]

Damn.

[Katie Nolan]

Could have been.

[Chris]

You're the one that won it.

[Isabella]

I'm upset, though, that he didn't agree on the pate's take.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, but you. But you get it. You know?

[Isabella]

I do get it.

[Katie Nolan]

You get it. He's. He's like, no, that was stupid. Okay, well, thought we could get.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Matt Ryan just called me stupid. He's like, okay, not chill. Super not chill. Heard this guy was ice. Not chill. Okay, let's keep talking about the NFL because we have some news that didn't make it in there. Number one. Hailee Steinfeld's pregnant.

[Chris]

Hey, congrats.

[Katie Nolan]

What's the deal with being pregnant? On Friday, actress Hailee Steinfeld shared in her weekly newsletter. Are we not Brady? Are you signed up for that?

[Brady]

No. What else am I missing? Hello?

[Katie Nolan]

Somebody should be getting this weekly newsletter. Please. It's called Bo Society. Sign up right now. She announced that she and Josh Allen are expecting their first child together. She turned 29 on Thursday and revealed the news at the end of her list of favorite moments from 2025. The list included attending her first college football game in Laramie, Wyoming, for Allen's jersey retirement ceremony, personal career moments, as well as getting married. We get it. You're checking a lot off your list. Okay.

[Brady]

Oh, Bo Society says, subscribe here for your weekly bs. Hell yeah.

[Chris]

We're in.

[Katie Nolan]

Hell yeah. Oh, okay. We love this. Congratulations to them on just that. No, congratulations on the game this week.

[Isabella]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Katie Nolan]

Man, it was pretty embarrassing. How many Patriots fans were out here tweeting at the hat about how the Patriots are back in a big way and the road to the Whatever comes through New England. And it was just like, could you shut the fuck up for a second? Could you let the game finish? Because, yeah, the Patriots were up in the first half, and then A new team came out in the second half and they sucked and they lost.

[Brady]

I like now, what did you do during this game to change the course of history?

[Katie Nolan]

That's. That's a good question. I don't.

[Brady]

I just was 21. Nothing. Patriots.

[Katie Nolan]

Look, at one point I was saying to Dan, I just kept apologizing because I've been saying, like, look, maybe they're good. I don't know. I'm not getting my hopes up. And this game, it's why people tweeted, because this game, by the half, I was going, I'm so sorry. We're back. I'm so sorry. The Pats are back. I'm so sorry. It's all pates from here on out. Dan has not known me in a rabid New England Patriots fan year. I mean, he's known me from when we did, you know, old episodes of my podcast, but we started dating, like, 29th, the end of 2019 into 2020. He watched me, like, lose Tom Brady and be upset about that. He's watched the Belichick coping that I've done. He's watched me give up on football for two years where I was like, I'm not watching any football. I don't care. He has seen and. But what he has not seen is really annoying Patriots fan Katie, and she's. She's close to being back. She was that the defensive pass interference that they called on a fourth down play. And then to give them first down when it should have been a pick, they did not catch that ball. And then on the next set of downs, on third down, another penalty call, late flag. I mean, listen, the refs just don't want us to be back.

[Isabella]

They're haters.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. Isabella gets it.

[Chris]

As Matt Ryan told us, this is a good thing for people.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a good thing. Yeah. I do like that angle of like, it's better to lose now. Get it out of the way.

[Brady]

Yeah, I don't know. As Trent Dilfer once said, you cannot lose games and still win.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, well, in that case. Also, as we said, Patrick Mahomes tore his acl. Season ending season. What? Season ending injury. Season endearing. Injy. The Chiefs will now turn to back quarterback Gardner Minshew. Isabella, have you ever heard the name Gardner? Minshew?

[Isabella]

Yes, Gardner through Brady Gardner.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, different. That is a little different.

[Isabella]

But Minshew sounds familiar.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, you have. Yeah.

[Isabella]

Yeah, Minshew.

[Katie Nolan]

He's so. He was at. Where'd he go? East Carolina?

[Brady]

East Washington. Eastern Washington.

[Katie Nolan]

Eastern Washington. He was known for he had a mustache.

[Brady]

God damn it. It was East Carolina.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Wait.

[Brady]

Or was it both?

[Isabella]

Okay, wait.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, East Carolina is the Pirates. How is he not East.

[Isabella]

Oh, Washington State.

[Brady]

It was East Carolina and then Washington State.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. East Carolina, though, is the Pirates.

[Brady]

They're the Pirates.

[Matt Ryan]

Yes.

[Isabella]

That is an intense mustache.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he had a signature mustache. And then he was in Jacksonville. He was their starting quarterback. He also had a mullet. A distinctive mullet. He cut that off after 2020. Back in. Must have been 2019. We had on always late with Katie Nolan on ESPN claws. We had a. A gardener Minshew lookalike contest.

[Isabella]

Oh, fun.

[Katie Nolan]

It was pretty exciting.

[Brady]

It's hard to find a guy with a mullet and a mustache in Jacksonville.

[Katie Nolan]

He was given the nickname Jock Strap King because Leonard Fournette, who was his running back on in Jacksonville.

[Isabella]

I'm sorry, this may be a jump question, but I don't think I've ever fully clarified in my brain what is the jock strap. Is that. Is that. What is that? That?

[Katie Nolan]

So it's what holds your cup. It's like underpants, right, boys? But it's got a whole jock strap on my work. Hey, what kind of a day.

[Brady]

It's not the underpants. It only does one thing right.

[Katie Nolan]

And it's hold the cup in place.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And then there's on the ass cheeks. There's really nothing going on.

[Brady]

Just a strap on each side.

[Isabella]

So it's like a buttless underwear almost.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like Chaps cups. But it's to hold your cup in place. But then a lot of guys don't even play with a cup anymore. Okay, I'm gonna get this off, so.

[Matt Ryan]

Really?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Cups. Are I. Sure, let's do this. Back in high school, I didn't play with a cup either.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like in high school.

[Brady]

Football is not a. It's not a sport where, like, you don't have, like, a baseball skipping off the dirt or anything. Like. It's just a very low occurrence of that kind. Somebody can punch you right in your neck.

[Katie Nolan]

Nuts.

[Chris]

Someone could.

[Brady]

That doesn't happen as frequently.

[Katie Nolan]

Anything could happen.

[Brady]

The restriction of movement was.

[Katie Nolan]

That's what they always say. And by they, I mean athletes. I don't know why I'm lumping you in with them, but are you woman.

[Brady]

Splaining the restriction of movement for.

[Katie Nolan]

I think it's wild to go like, nah, don't protect my dick. Also, because. And I'm really sorry, but we are going here sometimes, like, we can see it.

[Brady]

Okay, well, that through the pain.

[Katie Nolan]

Sometimes when you, if you're kicking and it's a slow mo. And when you're. It's like we at least a cup rounded, made y' all look like Ken dolls, you know what I mean? Sometimes when you don't wear one, it's too loose.

[Isabella]

I'm sorry for asking.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm sorry you were distracted because we.

[Brady]

Were dressed that way.

[Katie Nolan]

Anyway.

[Brady]

Isabelle Trying to do our jobs.

[Katie Nolan]

He was once offered $1 million from Cam Soda, the porn video service.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Because his name was Jockstrap King. And that's how you get people to say Cam Soda is by offering a million. That's like when pornhub would make somebody a deal and you're like, yeah, I don't think they're gonna take it. It. It's the Pope. I don't. But okay. I guess you can offer anybody you want. In 2022, as the Eagles backup, he lived in a bus outside of his gym where he focused on getting ready for the upcoming season. So he's quite a character. Isabella and on Sunday, fourth quarter, end of the game, basically chief season on the line, Patrick Mahomes goes out with an injury. Gardner Minu. The booth was like, he hasn't really done a lot of reps with this team because why would he. Because he backs up such a reliable quarterback and he stepped in there and threw a pick and I felt pretty bad right away that that's how it's gotta go when you walk in there and go, okay, here I go, Taylor Swift's watching. I guess I'll just throw a pick. It's kind of brutal. And so we feel bad for Gardner. Mine. I just wanted to say shout out to Brady Gardner Minshew.

[Isabella]

Okay. Yeah, shout out Brady Gardiner Minshew.

[Katie Nolan]

Another NFL story we didn't mention. We kind of got to we asked Matt Ryan what he got his offensive lineman. The reason for that is because seven time super bowl winning quarterback Tom Brady got exposed during Sunday's episode of Fox NFL Sunday when his colleagues Aaron Andrews and Carissa Thompson Shout out shared their top five holiday gifts given by NFL quarterbacks to their offensive linemen. The list included Matthew Stafford giving his lineman extra large plunge tubs, personalized scooters from Kyler Murray, golf carts courtesy of Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes, custom pickup trucks from Brock Purdy and last but not least, luxury SUVs from Tom Brady. The catch to all of this, Erin Andrews said the cars were on a one year lease. Okay, Tom Brady got them luxury cars for a year. Is there an option to buy.

[Isabella]

Yeah, I mean, I kind of. Whatever. Maybe they don't like it. And so then they're just. He's just like, all right, I'll let you try it out for a year.

[Brady]

Tom's gotta look out for Tom. Like, this is a yearly gift based on protection, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Is it cheaper to lease a car for a year than to just buy.

[Brady]

I would think less so for an suv. If this was. If when it was first, like luxury cars, if it was like a Lamborghini, it would make perfect sense to lease for. Because that's such a depreciating asset.

[Katie Nolan]

Right? They all are cars. They really all are.

[Brady]

Once you drive them off, like, you know. You know, you give up zero sacks, Escalade. You give up five sacks, I'm knocking you down.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's talk. Let's talk about renewing this lease after you've protected scale. Once you have become a wall and blocked me from injury, which shout out to the Colts offensive line this weekend. I think they did a really good job of protecting their grandpa quarterback. It was really. I don't know if you guys watched that whole game. I was rooting for Philip Rivers because what before it happened, I was like, is this medically scary? And then hearing him go, like, yeah, I don't know. I think I could do this. We're gonna see. And then hearing him say he talked to his. He was hoping his kids, the team that he coaches was watching so that they would hear, like, coach wasn't scared in that moment, so I'm not gonna be scared. Was like, I don't know. This really kind of hit me. And the way he fist pumped when he got his touchdown, it was such. It was so childlike.

[Isabella]

So he did well?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he did okay. They didn't win. They were winning and. And could have won, but you could just. There's moments where, like, with a different quarterback, maybe you'd go for it on fourth down, whereas they. Instead, because they had all their timeouts and they could get the ball back, they tried, they kicked, they got the points, which gave them a lead of one point. And then I think the Seahawks drove down the field and kicked a field goal and they won. So they didn't end up, you know, but he knows his limitations. He's not going to try to push it and be the. The, you know, competitor that he was five years ago when he played. But okay, he survived Seattle. And now next up, San Francisco, which is just as scary. I don't know who they have. The week after that. I Know, the last week is Houston. Houston might be Jacksonville, but I don't think it's easy either way. I mean, he's got his work cut out for him, but.

[Chris]

Yeah, so 49 is then the Jags.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Then the Texans.

[Katie Nolan]

And then the Texans. So it's a tough go. But hey, let's all root for the 45. 44 year old. My bad, my bad. He just turned 44. Because otherwise, Colt 45, how perfect would that have been? Yeah, but unfortunately, cult 45 minus one. Okay, so that's. I mean, most of the big stuff in the NFL. Correct. We'll talk about Isabella's fantasy team, obviously, on Thursday and do a look ahead to the playoffs. Let's talk about college football. The Heisman was given away this weekend. It went to Fernando Mendoza. He was the favorite and he won. How many people vote on this? Because he got 643 first place votes.

[Brady]

870 voters.

[Katie Nolan]

Who are they say.

[Brady]

It'S former winners, it's media members. It's a lot of people.

[Katie Nolan]

It's so many people.

[Brady]

More than Congress.

[Isabella]

What's the Heisman represent again?

[Katie Nolan]

Best player in college football.

[Isabella]

Okay, so is it like their mvp?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, basically. Yeah. It's like this is the, the, the guy. The best guy.

[Isabella]

Gotcha.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the best guy award. And it went to the quarterback from Indiana, Fernando Mendoza, who we've heard from him, Isabella, after a game when he was like, oh, gosh, what did he.

[Isabella]

What did he actually. We.

[Katie Nolan]

Flipping one.

[Chris]

Yeah, we're flipping.

[Katie Nolan]

We're flipping. We're flipping champions or whatever. He won 643 first place votes. This is the first Hoosier to win the most. The college football's most prestigious award since its inception in 1935. So no one from Indiana has ever done it before. Do we also have in here the stat about Latino winners? I believe he's the first Cuban American winner. Winner. And there's something about him being a Latino. Maybe it was like the second or something like that. We can maybe look for. He beat Vanderbilt quarterback. He beat a couple people. The running back from Notre Dame, the quarterback from Ohio State. But Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia. Now, Isabella, we've talked about him before because of a game where he said that if they won, his mom would date Theo von.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you remember that?

[Isabella]

Vaguely. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

That's how he has come up. And now we're gonna have a lot more to know about him. But let's start by playing. I mean, Fernando Mendoza, of course, gave a very heartwarming speech in it he mentions his mom. It was very kind, very thoughtful, but this was the moment I wanted to play for you guys. About kids who feel overlooked. Let's play that clip from Fernando Mendoza's Heisman speech.

[Matt Ryan]

I want every kid out there who feels overlooked, underestimated, to know I was you. I was that kid, too. I was in your shoes.

[Katie Nolan]

The truth is, you don't need the.

[Matt Ryan]

Most stars, hype, or rankings. You just need discipline, heart, and people who believe in you. And you need to believe in your own abilities. I hope this moment shows you that chasing your dreams are worth it, no matter how big or impossible they seem.

[Katie Nolan]

So cute, right? He's just such like a. This is what I imagine, like the. The wiggles are like, you know, where he's. He's like Miss Rachel of football. You know, where he's like, great, guys. You, good job. Do it. Which is so funny because of the stark contrast it presents to the man that he beat. And I say man because Diego Pavia is 24 years old. Old. After the vote, he posted. Actually, I guess he's 23. Sorry, he's about to be 24. My bad.

[Chris]

Almost 24.

[Katie Nolan]

He posted to his Instagram story. F all the voters, but family for life. Now, first thing I've got to note, 22% of those voters voted for him. So effing all of them is a little crazy. Also, now that we know that there's so many of them, sounds like a Bonnie Blue challenge. F all the voters, but F all the voters.

[Matt Ryan]

Every Heisman voter. That's a hell of a challenge in.

[Katie Nolan]

One day, in one 24 hour period. Bet the rooms smell crazy. F all the voters, but family for life. What even is that family for life? Life is like.

[Isabella]

Is he saying the voters that voted over him were our family? So it's like the voters, but no.

[Katie Nolan]

I think he was literally talking about his brothers who can't stop getting arrested. Oh, I truly think what he meant was his mom, who he out to Theo von and his brothers who can't stop getting arrested. Right.

[Brady]

I think he also added his offensive lineman in that post. He tagged them in that post on Instagram. I. I think this is a word salad of things he thought he was supposed to say.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, and then he was spotted partying in a nightclub after he lost again. He lost in Manhattan with a sign that read Indiana, which, like. Okay, dude, all right, Wait, clarify for.

[Isabella]

Me what that means.

[Katie Nolan]

Indiana is the school where the winner went. So Fernando Mendoza, Golly G flipping championship.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Went to Indiana. And so this Kid lost. And then and again, man, full man lost. And then partied after with a big sign that said F Indiana. Like, this was your championship, dude. This was. Apparently, this was the thing that mattered all in the world to him. And you let us know right away that you're not going to do much else because not winning this clearly shows that this was all you had and that's why you're so up, up upset. It's. I don't know if I sound like an old lady when I say that. That's embarrassing to react this way. I know that like this. I mean, the social media generation, they have been having to make brands for themselves and be and post through it their whole lives. So, like, far be it for me to tell you how to use your social after you lose an award. It just feels like at your big age, you've been playing college football for six years. You had to sue the NCAA to challenge your ability to play.

[Brady]

He has played college football for six years.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Brady]

So it's like, I'm not going to be stunned if he tries to play a seventh year.

[Katie Nolan]

At what point do you go like, I gave it my all and it still wasn't enough. I guess I just stink. Maybe instead of. Maybe instead of partying, like, go home and think about it, like. Or party and go, like, I'm just happy that, you know that this colleague won. Like, I don't know, show some sort of a. So anyway, he has since apologized. He said being a part of the Heisman ceremony last night as a finalist was such an honor. As a competitor, just like in everything I do, I wanted to win. To be so close to my dream and come up short was painful. I didn't handle those emotions well at all and did not represent myself the way I wanted to. I have much love and respect for the Heisman voters in the selection process, and I apologize for being disrespectful. It was a mistake and I am sorry.

[Brady]

Well, fine, Katie, I'll give you three things. Tell me which one bothers you the most about Diego Pavia.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's hear spirit.

[Brady]

1. Showing up to the Heisman in a turtleneck and chain and then wearing it out to the club that night.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, geez Louise.

[Brady]

2.

[Katie Nolan]

Aren't you hot?

[Brady]

Repeatedly shooting his shot at Tate McCray to no avail.

[Katie Nolan]

He did repeatedly, recently, yes.

[Brady]

So the Theo Von. Yeah, it included Theo von DMing Tate McCray to ask for a date with Diego Pavia, and then he reiterated it again in interviews with ESPN before the Heisman stage. Ceremony.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[Brady]

And number three was him listing himself at six feet.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, Yeah, I brought that up on the radio because I wanted him to feel bad about it. He says that he's six feet tall, but then when you see him next to all the other Heisman finalists who are 6ft tall, he's clearly, like, 3 inches shorter than them, at least. And this is very much giving that. Ew. What? How skewed is your understanding of women that you think Theo Von Sliding into our DM is a good ambassador for you?

[Chris]

Get your father. Stepfather. Theoborn. Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. That's crazy.

[Chris]

This guy's just wearing his L's on his sleeve. It's just insane. Like, you would go out and make that much of a fuss about losing. It's like, dude, now everyone knows.

[Katie Nolan]

Everybody knows you lost.

[Chris]

What are you talking about?

[Katie Nolan]

This is loser behavior, so I guess it adds up. Ew. Don't shoot your shot at a famous person over and over. If they ignore it, be grateful they didn't say to your face to leave. Like, they. You weren't confronted. She. She treated you with grace. Let it go.

[Brady]

Don't be greedy.

[Katie Nolan]

Don't be greedy.

[Matt Ryan]

Hey.

[Katie Nolan]

You would think we'd go to hockey here, but no NBA cup. The most important.

[Brady]

No, there's such a natural segue right here. His brother got traded.

[Katie Nolan]

The most important. I know, but it's the order that it's in. And so we must stay loyal.

[Isabella]

It's not.

[Katie Nolan]

We must stay loyal to the region. Spell I'll forget to go back. Okay, okay. The NBA Cup.

[Chris]

Just tease.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Coming up, we talk about Hughes. The NBA Cup, a series we cannot, as a podcast, decide if we're into or not. It's important. Question mark. Either way, the spurs upset the Thunder. Have you noticed that people in sports media, when talking about the San Antonio spurs, get so nervous to put the word the in front of it because of Tottenham Hotspur and how serious their fans are about. You cannot call them the Spurs. They are Spurs. And so have you noticed? I have. That whenever people write about the San Antonio spurs, they just write spurs so that nobody yells at the them. It's absurd.

[Brady]

But then we get yelled at for saying the mls, which is incorrect.

[Katie Nolan]

Which is incorrect. But they should be glad we're saying it at all. Do you know what I mean? In his first game in nearly a month, spurs superstar Victor Wembanyama scored 22 points in 21 minutes of action to hand the Thunder their second loss of the season and advance the spurs to the NBA cup final. Dude, what is up with the Thunder? They are rolling.

[Chris]

Incredible. They are on track. I know it's still very early on in the season, but they're on track to. To break the Warriors 73 single season win record.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy.

[Chris]

And they Shade came out last week. Shake, you'll just. Alexander, their star player came out last week and said that is something they are conscious of and they are trying to break. Which is awesome to hear.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Whether it happens or not, who knows. Because you know if you have like a bad month or even a few weeks span that could jeopardize it because there's not a whole lot of room for. For error.

[Katie Nolan]

Seven losses. I think they ended up with that year.

[Chris]

The Warriors 73 and 9.

[Katie Nolan]

9 losses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they. So we've got two for the Thunder. I mean man, they are. They are a problem. I'll tell you who's upset. Dan Soder. He is not happy about the Thunder. He hates that team. There's a commercial that ran during the playoffs last year that featured them all getting out of a car and walking down a red carpet. And I took Dan a long time to realize that was the team that was kicking his team's ass. Ass. He did not recognize them at all until I was like, damn, Chet. I know. I was like, damn, damn. I wish they'd stop playing this commercial. And he goes, I'll be honest, I thought those were college players getting nil money. I have no idea who these guys are. And I was like, well, you're gonna get to know him real well real soon. And here we are. But the spurs will face off against Isabella the Knicks in the NBA cup final on Tuesday night at 8:30 Eastern on Prime. And. And the. And the cup is. Good question.

[Isabella]

What exactly is that?

[Katie Nolan]

The NBA cup started two years ago, Brady.

[Chris]

This is the third one.

[Katie Nolan]

This is the third one.

[Brady]

It used to be called the in season tournament. And then they realized that was lame.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean it is basically an in season tournament and it's to mimic. I imagine international soccer does this really well. Well, you'll have like within a season there's like a separate thing. They're playing for it. I think it was just to. As it was explained to me on the radio by Alyssa, the starters play. They don't a lot an issue. One of the main complaints I think about the NBA is that in these middle of the season games they don't mean as much. And so you're not seeing the stars out there on the floor competing for something because it's like they need to save themselves up for the playoffs. So I imagine this was to get more marquee matchups and give something to pay attention to in the middle of the season.

[Chris]

Yeah. To drum up viewership, essentially in a time of the season that historically you don't get a whole lot of eyeballs. So it's just an extra reason to get people to tune in.

[Katie Nolan]

And all of these games are not extra. They are games that would have played and count towards your record. Right. Anyway.

[Chris]

Yes. Except for the final.

[Katie Nolan]

Except for the final. Which also puts us in an interesting situation. I feel like we discussed this when it came to the playin games to the playoffs last year. That game, remember, Isabella, when it was like, you play this game and if you win or you whatever, you can get into the playoffs. But you had to win a game. Game.

[Isabella]

That's like a call to play in.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Isabella]

Right. Or something.

[Katie Nolan]

Statistically, are. They're sort of like a no man's land. Like, if something happens, if you go off for, I don't know, 100 points in a game, it like doesn't have anywhere to live, Right?

[Chris]

Yeah. It doesn't count towards, like, historically the NBA single game scoring record. If Wemby went for 100 using.

[Katie Nolan]

It's very confusing to me. I don't understand that. But no, we can't wait to watch Tuesday from Vegas.

[Chris]

Yeah. Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Is that. You feel good about that?

[Chris]

None of us. None of us can wait.

[Katie Nolan]

None of us can wait. I'm beside myself about if they ate.

[Brady]

A sentient Pop Tart after winning the cup, I would be more okay, then I'm in.

[Katie Nolan]

What do they get for winning? I think they get money.

[Chris]

Money?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Well, cool.

[Brady]

Okay. Some men enjoy money more than Pop Tarts.

[Katie Nolan]

Speaking of money, the nwsl. Listen, you guys, it's the business side of things. I don't like talking about it either. But this Trinity Rodman contract situation is appearing to be some sort of like a flashpoint for the nwsl. How they handle this is going to determine a lot about this league in coming years. So Trinity Rodman, huge star, currently playing for the Washington Spirit, but her contract is up. She's renegotiating. We've seen big names in the NWSL leave to go play for the Women's Super League in Europe. Europe. Because they're paying more money, better opportunities, and so they're trying to keep Trinity Rodman here. The last we had heard was that there was an offer that had like a scaling contract to it that eventually would have her being paid more than the current salary cap. But because they thought that would be safe, because they knew that the cap is going to go up, the league rejected that. Now the league has approved high impact player roster mechanism to retain their stars. Let's try to understand what this is. The Washington spirit are one step closer to securing Trinity Rodman, ESPN reported. Late on Thursday, the NWSL Board of Governors approved a new quote high impact player roster mechanism which will allow teams to exceed the current salary cap in order to retain stars. Designed for use on players crucial to a team's competitive and commercial bottom line. The rule would permit clubs to spend up to $1 million over the camp cap with a limited hit. The change would still need approval from the NWSL Players association with the union maintaining the ability to negotiate. Any deviations from the league's compensation structure are under the current cba. So it, it sounds like an exception to the cap, but I guess not enough to call it a soft cap.

[Chris]

Yeah, essentially like it's. It's similar to like in the NBA you have the Bird exception. Right. So when you have a player that has been on your team for a certain amount of years that you consider a star player player, you can give them the Bird exemption, named after Larry Bird, and that allows you to sign them for a big contract and that doesn't really count towards your salary cap. And it's worked really well. It promotes loyalty within the. The team, the franchise. And I think could work really well for a league like the NWSL who are trying to retain stars when they don't have the salary cap that they probably need to in order to retain them. Otherwise.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, so we'll see, I guess how this goes. Is there a deadline Brady on like when the PA has to get back to him on their approval? No, we don't know. So we'll just keep our eyes on that. But I really do feel like it's a flashpoint. So what they say we're like something. This is like a. This could be a turning point in the history of the league. I hope they keep her because man, what a player she is. But we'll see. And hopefully I hope they keep her and it benefits her because you know, you can't always be asking women's stars to take a hit on behalf of a league. It reaches a point. Hey, the NHL a big trade somewhat related to Tate McCrae. Remember we talked about her shortly ago.

[Brady]

What a teaser.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, Jacques her. Do we have confirmation if they're dating or not? Ever since that we had that One picture after his injury. And I will say the picture had too many glasses on the table for my liking, considering that's how Jacques got hurt in the first place, by mishandling a glass at a dinner. But we saw one picture of him sitting with Tate McCray and we think they might be dating. We're not sure. Tate McCray, famously a hockey. Still nothing. Also, she's so famously a hockey fan that it's like, what made you think she was going to care about the Heisman Trophy finalist? You know, winner, maybe? Finalist. No chance.

[Brady]

Let me woo this Canadian woman with my college football.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, you got saucy points. Otherwise I don't want to see. Yeah, maybe she could. We'll see. I don't know what she's into, but on what day was this? Friday, out of nowhere, blockbuster trade. Quinn Hughes brother, Jacques Hughes and. Oh, shit, what's the. What's Liam, right?

[Brady]

Connor. Is there a Connor?

[Isabella]

Connor, Tom, Ben.

[Katie Nolan]

Luke is so much closer to Liam than Conor. Jack Hughes, Luke Hughes and Quinn Hughes. Now, Quinn was the only one that doesn't play on the Devils, and he still doesn't. He was traded by the Canucks to the Wild. The Minnesota Wild, who are already pretty good. Vancouver received a bunch of forwards. We're not going to make me read hockey names, right? That would be cruel and unusual. But they get three. They get two forwards and a defenseman as well as a first round pick in the 2026 NHL Draft. Quinn Hughes is 26. He's a defenseman. He was captain. He was in his eighth season with the Canucks. He was selected by them in the first round. He went seventh overall in 2018. He won the Norris Trophy as their best NHL's best defenseman for the 2324 season. Season. After posting career highs of 92.17 goals, 75 assists. He was also a finalist for the award last season. He had 76 points, 16 goals, 60 assists. If you're a numbers person. Just kind of a shock. I think though, people thought he might be going somewhere. A lot of people thought he was going to the East. So this was a big surprise and certainly something to keep an eye on. The Wilder good. Also, the Avalanche are good. Their role model one.

[Isabella]

The Wild is a cool name.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, isn't it?

[Isabella]

For a team name, that's cool.

[Brady]

You know what it doesn't have on the end of it?

[Isabella]

Brady.

[Katie Nolan]

So you know Brady hates it.

[Brady]

You know, what do you call someone who plays for the Wild? They're a Wild.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I don't know, call him Connor.

[Brady]

Connor, I realize, is the jets beat writer for SNY.

[Katie Nolan]

Conor Hughes.

[Brady]

Shout out.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I assumed McDavid. I just assumed you hockeyed too close to the on and it will melt. So you got to really be careful. Did you see last week? Don't remember the proper nouns of the story, but did you see somebody. It might have been a shark. Actually. Somebody almost got. If it weren't for their visor on their helmet, a skate went up and kicked him right in the visor. And it was like, damn, that could have been really, really bad. And it wasn't. So I love that shout out to moments like that where you go, this could.

[Isabella]

If this could have been really bad. I love that someone.

[Chris]

The shots were playing because it was Macklin celebration skate.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it almost. It just imagine. Scary imagine if that. And it didn't. So celebrate. Huzzah. Winds on earth. Right now. To go. We avoided watching a man get his face sliced in half. Yay.

[Chris]

Jackson Blake is the name of the skater that almost had his face.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, to have your face almost sliced and have your name be one letter away from the thing that almost did it to you. A blade is tough. Is so tough. But he's good and fine. So shout out to equipment. Some Hollywood news that also involves sports. We'll run through these kind of quick here. Vin Diesel says he wrote a role for Cristiano Ronaldo in Fast X part two.

[Isabella]

Wait a second.

[Brady]

Fast ten.

[Katie Nolan]

So fast eleven.

[Brady]

No, Fast ten two.

[Chris]

Fast ten.

[Isabella]

Eleven. When did we. We did nine.

[Katie Nolan]

That happened. Yeah. Fast nine was fastest and furiousest.

[Brady]

Fast nine, I think was the one with Charlize.

[Katie Nolan]

Was that the one where Statham used a baby carrier as a weapon on the plane?

[Brady]

Yes. They also jumped a car over a submarine.

[Katie Nolan]

Right, Right. That's the last one, I think.

[Isabella]

The last one, I think that's the one I think was the fifth one or sixth one.

[Brady]

What was the one when they went into space.

[Katie Nolan]

They went into space.

[Brady]

Space was in.

[Katie Nolan]

Where were we? Which one were we? Vin Diesel.

[Brady]

Fast Part 10, Part 2.

[Katie Nolan]

So nobody saw Fast X.

[Brady]

No, I saw Fast. I've seen all of them. Obviously.

[Katie Nolan]

You've seen all of them.

[Matt Ryan]

Of course.

[Chris]

And Hobbs and Shaw did.

[Katie Nolan]

You saw Hobbs and Shaw.

[Brady]

So this would be the 12th fast and the Furious movie coming out.

[Katie Nolan]

Did it? Did you. Are you excited for it?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Did X end on a cliffhanger?

[Brady]

Ended on a cliffhanger, I believe, at the base of the Hoover Dam.

[Katie Nolan]

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. What happens? What are we waiting to find Out. About. About.

[Brady]

We're waiting to find out whether or not Vin Diesel dies.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm going to guess that every movie, right? Vin Diesel seemingly confirmed that the soccer star Cristiano Ronaldo will have a cameo when he shared a snap of the two of them on his Instagram account. In the caption he wrote, everyone asked, would he be in the fast mythology. They did. Who asked? I got to tell you, he is a real one. We wrote a role for him. Okay, you don't. But that's so many words to not confirm or deny. You know what I mean to say? I gotta tell you, he's a real one, okay? And a real one that will be in your movie.

[Brady]

I mean, the problem is, like, if you're saying, trust me, we wrote a role for him, it's like you're expecting us to be like, well, how did you make that make sense? We don't care if it made sense. You've been to space. We're wondering, like, when will the dinosaurs show up? Like, are you time to traveling? There's literally nowhere else for this franchise to go.

[Katie Nolan]

Is Cristiano Ronaldo starring as Cristiano Ronaldo, or will he be making an appearance as a. Are they still racing cars? Isn't that what this is supposed to all be about? Yeah.

[Brady]

It started out as street racers who stole DVD players, but no, now they've been to space.

[Katie Nolan]

And so now they just do this professionally.

[Brady]

Yeah, pretty much. They were done, then they weren't done, then they were out, then they brought them back.

[Katie Nolan]

The Rock is no longer involved.

[Brady]

Showed up, he. I think he's back.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I can't keep up with this. This is a lot.

[Brady]

Oh, the number of people who have just died and come back to this franchise.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, and then the ones who have died and, like, for real died, they.

[Brady]

I don't think they've brought him back yet.

[Chris]

Well, they brought him back for a sequence, right?

[Brady]

A scene for a sequence. Yeah, because they put his face on like, his brother, but then they kind.

[Matt Ryan]

Of wrote him off.

[Katie Nolan]

Walker. Yeah, a walker. Rest in peace. April 2027. I feels like too much of an ad to tell you that full sentence, so I'll just say if this sounds like something you might be interested in. April 2027. I can't tell you what. That's a lot of fasts. I haven't fasted in a long time. I'm eating. Good. Next, entertainment, sportsy news. Lakeith Stanfield is going to portray Dennis Rodman in an upcoming 48 Hours invader Vegas film. The academy award nominated actor has stepped. What was he nominated for?

[Brady]

Was he for get out? Was he for. Oh no.

[Matt Ryan]

Oh God.

[Katie Nolan]

Was it the. Well, the. Thank you for.

[Isabella]

Oh, sorry to bother you.

[Katie Nolan]

That's what I. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I meant.

[Brady]

Judas and the Black Messiah.

[Katie Nolan]

That's a really good movie. Has stepped into the role of NBA legend Dennis Rodman in Lionsgate's upcoming film 48 Hours in Vegas. Per variety, the comedy is quote inspired by the untold story of Dennis Rodman's legendary trip to Las Vegas during the 1998 NBA Finals. Just as the Rodman. Just as Rodman's Chicago Bulls are on the verge of completing their second consecutive three peat championship in eight years. Is that untold?

[Chris]

They, they definitely delved into it a little bit in the last dance.

[Isabella]

What happened?

[Katie Nolan]

He just sort of left the team.

[Chris]

And he said he needed a vacation party. He just needed to go away for a little bit. And Phil Jackson essentially said to him, how's 48 hours? What if we give you 48 hours? And so he went to Vegas for 48 hours.

[Katie Nolan]

Was that when he married himself or had he done that already?

[Chris]

That's a great question.

[Katie Nolan]

It is a good question. And we're gonna find out in this movie. I'm not looking at a side by side of the two of them. You think Lakeith Stanfield can play a convincing Dennis Rodman?

[Brady]

I think if you dye your hair green.

[Katie Nolan]

Is he tall? Tall?

[Brady]

No, he's 6ft tall.

[Katie Nolan]

So you gotta make a real 6ft or like Diego Pavi.

[Brady]

I mean it is Hollywood tall.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Six feet makes him one of the taller actors on the planet.

[Katie Nolan]

True. Well, we'll see how that goes. I. I mean, I'll watch it.

[Isabella]

Yeah, I'd watch it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, Isabella, we'll learn. Maybe we'll have Isabella do like a book report on it. Okay. You know Isabella, what did she learn about sports from a movie? Okay, and then the last one, this is definitely sports, so don't even question it. Don't even worry about checking if this is sports related. So totally not.

[Isabella]

The story that Isabella contributed to the documents.

[Katie Nolan]

Hugh Jackman revealed a past time that sounds like pastime, like it's something he likes to do. But a past occurrence where he peed himself on stage. He was on the Howard Stern show shout out. SiriusXM. Hugh Jackman revealed the time he peed himself on stage while playing Gaston in a production of Beauty and the Beast. Let's take a look. Listen, as I picked Belle up And a little bit of piss came out. And I'm wearing red tights, Gaston.

[Matt Ryan]

And then at the end of the song, I had a choice. You sing that F sharp and piss my pants or I don't sing it and humiliate myself. So I sang it and I just.

[Katie Nolan]

It was just going. It was just going. I guess I didn't know about F sharp. I guess I didn't know that. Like, it's, you know, the yellow note. I know there's a brown note. They say that if you listen to it, it evacuates your bat vowels for you. I didn't know that. If you had to hit that note, you're like, well, I'm gonna piss, guys.

[Isabella]

So lesson learned. Don't ever hit an F sharp when you gotta pee on your way home.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. If there's one thing you take away from this podcast, if you're in your car and you're listening to only C.

[Isabella]

Minors, if that exists.

[Brady]

If you're Drake.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. Damn.

[Isabella]

Oh, that just. That just hit me late.

[Matt Ryan]

I feel like an unnecessary.

[Katie Nolan]

She's the lady that. As the. As the halftime show is wrapping up, she. She went A minor.

[Matt Ryan]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm hearing it now. Sorry.

[Isabella]

I was like, just so deep into.

[Katie Nolan]

The music, I didn't even fully ears. Yeah, Brady, you had prepared some things of fans going crazy. Did you want to. Do we have time to do these? I know you're the timing czar for this podcast. Oh, man.

[Brady]

What do you think that Russian fans went nuts this week?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Yes.

[Brady]

This weekend.

[Katie Nolan]

I guess he's saying, yes, we can do this part. This segment ahead. Brady.

[Brady]

Lionel Messi was on a tour of India this past week. Thousands of adoring supporters paid up to 12,000 rupees each to catch a glimpse of the football star. What's that about $133. But that is a large percentage of the average Indian wage.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn.

[Brady]

They were left disappointed. He showed up and walked around the field for 20 minutes while surrounded by his security and left. That was all you got of Messi.

[Chris]

You couldn't really tell which one one was him. It was just a crowd of people.

[Brady]

He was the smallest one in the crowd.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, of course. Did it go around the stadium a couple times or was it one slow 20 minutes around the entire stadium?

[Brady]

It was just a slow, meandering kind of through the field, not really in a defined path. Fans ripped up seats, threw them onto the field, charged the field. They were not happy.

[Chris]

Oh, because they will promise a collection of things, like, even like a charity Match. I think they were promised that he would be there for 45 minutes. He was there for 20. So they were promised a collection of things that they ultimately weren't that wasn't delivered.

[Brady]

The demand for this guy is incredible.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Brady]

The fact that people show up just to see him.

[Katie Nolan]

That really upset me. When you said that it was a significant portion of their wages to see nothing. Did he apologize?

[Chris]

No. This is the worst part. A spokesperson for Messi said that he fulfilled the time commitment that had been agreed.

[Isabella]

Advance.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait.

[Chris]

We did our 20.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait.

[Chris]

That's all we had agreed.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait. That's a spokesperson.

[Chris]

A spokesperson.

[Katie Nolan]

That's really bad. A spokesperson should at least know to say, you know, we. We didn't. Messi's in the middle of a. A tour and has a lot of stops. Would love to spend hours with every fan base but it just isn't practical. We're glad we got to see that incredible outpouring from those wonderful fans. Anything like that would have been a helpful.

[Brady]

Call it a miscommunication.

[Katie Nolan]

No, I won't. That's a huge miss, man. That's making me think differently about Messi. That's a real bummer. Did they apologize?

[Brady]

The arena folks? The. Like the. The event promoters. They had to. They had to.

[Katie Nolan]

Absolutely had to referred the BBC to the apology issued by Banerjee on social media.

[Brady]

Right. That's the best they could do.

[Katie Nolan]

They just.

[Chris]

Stadium. The organizers were apologizing to Messi. But I don't think Messi himself or his representation has apologized to things.

[Katie Nolan]

What were they apologizing to him for?

[Chris]

For the outburst from. Sorry we made you walk public.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry they tore our stadium apart because you walked around in a group of people and we couldn't see you. Ew. That's a bummer. I don't. I was always loudly pro Messi just as a means to be anti Ronaldo. Because I don't like that guy. And this is. I'm like. I don't like that at all. That stinks. That stinks and I don't like it. Okay.

[Brady]

At least that stadium still standing.

[Katie Nolan]

Kind of.

[Brady]

A teenager has confessed to starting a fire that destroyed the stadium of a storied Finnish club after the club was relegated to the second tier of Finnish soccer. The suspect cannot face criminal charges due to being under 15 years old. FC hockey was one of Finland's most storied franchises. Was recently relegated to the second tier after they finished dead last in their group Stadium burned to the goddamn wait. Pinned it on a 15 year old fan.

[Isabella]

Wait Wait, what?

[Katie Nolan]

Based off of what? He brought something into the state, into a game and started a fire or like.

[Matt Ryan]

No, no, no.

[Brady]

This was an after hours fire. They're not reporting any casualties.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, and he set the whole. I mean, stadiums are mostly like concrete.

[Chris]

Yeah. An entire stand set.

[Matt Ryan]

It's not a huge, gigantic, finished stadium.

[Brady]

Is a little more wood.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, well, it's finished, I'll tell you that much. What do they do in that situation? He has to pay for it. He's got to get a job.

[Chris]

He'll be financially liable for it.

[Katie Nolan]

Do they have paper routes in Finland? He better get one. Fifteen, dude. Yikes. And I'll tell you, and I would love to present that to my mom when I was 15 and go, yeah, less than 15.

[Chris]

He's under 15.

[Katie Nolan]

I go, got a C on my report card. Sure. At least I didn't burn down the stadium of my team. Is there another one? Brady?

[Brady]

Fans were a little more kept together stateside this weekend. 17 time WWE Champion John Cena wrestled the last match of his career on NBC. Saturday night's main event. Despite a career mantra of never give up, Cena gave up. Tapping out to a sleeper hold from former champion Guy. Fans were displeased by the outcome as they wanted Cedar to win his final match. Spoiler alert here. 3, 2, 1. Outcomes of pro wrestling matches are predetermined.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, Brady, that was what you did there. That just mean. They know that. They know that. Spoiler alert.

[Brady]

Isabella, was that a worthwhile spoiler alert to the casual pro wrestling?

[Chris]

No.

[Katie Nolan]

Everybody knows it's fake.

[Brady]

Yeah, like, they're like, not fake.

[Katie Nolan]

It's predetermined.

[Brady]

How dare you drop the F word.

[Katie Nolan]

I thought you were gonna say spoiler alert. He tapped out because a lot of people hadn't watched it yet. I don't know.

[Brady]

Among the chants from the D.C. crowd immediately following the match, we had a chorus of booze. A strong chorus of booze. We had you fucked up. You up. And we had fuck you, Hunter. Over and over again, referring to the WWE's Chief Content Officer. Pissed off fans.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

That saw John Cena go out with a loss.

[Katie Nolan]

This was crazy because I saw this spillover. I wasn't watching. Sorry. And I was like, in. I was looking at somebody else's Instagram post. And in the comments of this, that the top two comments were like, are we boycotting wwe? Or like, yeah. Or like, look what's. Look what happened. Cena taps out. Ew. Can you believe it? Like, people were spoiling the outcome all over The Internet. And they were upset. Here's my question. Hasn't this kind of always been the thing? Hasn't the thing always been you go out on your back, you put over the next generation of stars when you're done.

[Brady]

That's the writer. Lost his last match. It was a big deal. Like, Goldberg lost his last match match. Guys, you, you. That's the whole point. Like, you don't get bonus points for retiring with a winning streak.

[Katie Nolan]

And also watching it back, he. He took. He got choked like he was turning blue. He was not faking that. He really was. I don't know if you watched it too. Is the. The color of his face changes and then like a minute later, I don't know, 30 seconds later, he like taps. He. But he like let them choke him out pretty hard and then tapped. I get it. But it's also like, hey, that's how you should go out. Of course that's how he's gonna go out. Lifting up the next group and helping them succeed. Instead of going out like, no one will ever be like me.

[Brady]

You go like, yeah, their matches are fun. He's a big Austrian guy and his gimmick is like, we will really hit the out of each other for these entire matches. Like, Cena got his ass kicked.

[Katie Nolan]

He sure did. And what an amazing career he is. Is he still the most make a wifi dishes ever? Oh, he's like, I mean, what a guy. He's really got the whole thing down to a science. An incredible career. He carried that promotion on his back for a little bit there. An incredible, just amazing career. And I like that he went out on his back.

[Isabella]

Did he have like a certain character?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he was just John Cena. Oh, so you can't see him.

[Brady]

There was a riot. There was a ride to it. He started out as like just jacked guy. Jacked young guy. They didn't have a bit for him. Then he turned into the doctor of Thuganomics.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh my God, I forgot about that.

[Brady]

He would freestyle rap on his way to the ring. He wore a big chain throwback jerseys.

[Katie Nolan]

He put an album.

[Brady]

He put out albums. Yeah, yeah. He still like to this day comes out to a theme song that is him rapping. But like, eventually he dropped the freestyle rapper. And the only thing he kept was the jean shorts. So he would just wear these long ass jean shorts for all of his matches. But then he was. His whole gimmick was never give up, never quit. And he would like salute like a marine. Even though that was just because he played the Marine in a movie and.

[Katie Nolan]

Eventually, like, I can't recommend less.

[Brady]

John Cena. Never give up.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Gotcha. Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I think that's it. I think that is. Well, there's like a little. There's more that we'll get to. If that isn't everything, hold off, cuz we're probably about to get to it in a second. But mostly that's your sports news. Let's give ourselves, I mean, a quick round of applause while also a quick break. We're gonna go to break. When we come back, Chris will tell us what we can watch if we want to watch some sports. This week.

[Isabella]

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[Matt Ryan]

The College Football Playoff is everything. Toughness, growth, sacrifices. Life's your focus. Is this where I 50 everything you got all damn day? The attention to detail is like none other. Chilean takes on Ole Miss followed by James Madison in Oregon.

[Katie Nolan]

It's time to bring it first round.

[Matt Ryan]

Coverage of the college football playoffs presented by allstate Saturday at 3:30 30 Eastern on TNT and HBO. Max, are you ready? Let's go.

[Katie Nolan]

Welcome to Walgreens. Looking for a holiday gift?

[Matt Ryan]

Sort of. My cousin Freddy showed up to surprise us.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, sounds like a real nice surprise.

[Matt Ryan]

Exactly.

[Brady]

So now I have to get him.

[Matt Ryan]

A gift, but I haven't gotten my bonus yet. So if we could make it something really nice but also not break the bank, that'd be perfect.

[Katie Nolan]

How about a keurig for 50% off.

[Matt Ryan]

Bingo savings all season.

[Katie Nolan]

The holiday road is long.

[Matt Ryan]

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[Katie Nolan]

Okay, we're back. This is an exciting one. I we should also probably talk to them about our holiday schedule casualties. We should probably tell people what what to expect in these Upcoming weeks for the rest of this week. On Thursday, we've got Ashton Battuso coming in, a good friend of mine who works for Off Ball. It's a. What's the word I'm looking for? She's got like a newsletter, but it's also like a website. Whatever. She'll be in here. We're gonna talk about some fun stuff. Then next week, Tuesday's episode will be me and Dan on our road to trip. Right, Brady?

[Brady]

Yes, you and touring comedian Dan Soder.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right, Dan Soder.com for tickets. He doesn't go back on the road till February, which is fantastic. I'm excited. And then that Thursday, that's Christmas.

[Brady]

That it is.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And then on Christmas, that's a fun episode. It's just the casualties. But my God, did we have fun making it. And Chris listened to it back to edit it and said it was one of his favorites. So we're doing a special Chris Christmas NBA themed episode that'll drop on Christmas, then the week after that. That Tuesday episode again, I believe is me and touring comedian Dan Soder.

[Brady]

Correct.

[Katie Nolan]

Because we're on a road trip. We drive. For those who don't know, from here, we stop in Chicago for a little and spend time with my family. Then we go to Denver with his family and then we drive back. So in that road trip, we've usually recorded for his podcast, but this year I told him it's my turn. So those will be our Tuesday episodes. We'll do sports news and stuff just from the road. And I don't think the casualties will be there just because of logistics. We'll be in a car. I don't know how we would zoom with you, but it's just to. Is everybody mad? You're not mad at me?

[Brady]

No, we weren't planning on being there.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, great. Fantastic.

[Brady]

Sorry, we got stuff going on.

[Katie Nolan]

And then that Thursday is. What is that? New Year's.

[Brady]

That's New Year's.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

And New Year's we'll have Charlotte Wilder from the sports gossip podcast. She will be in here. We'll talk about, we'll recap the year, all of the best pieces of sports gossip from 2025. And then after that we'll be back to normal, Correct?

[Brady]

Correct.

[Katie Nolan]

So we're all caught up now that that is the case because this might be our last time to do one of these for a while. Chris, can you let the people who are listening know what they can watch if they want to watch some sports this week?

[Chris]

Of course, the first thing is the women's college volleyball final. Final Four. Now, just to set the scene as to where we're at in the the tournament, we got an email from Christina who said did you see that Texas A M going off in the playoffs? Wait, did you think I was talking about football? Nope, I'm talking about women's volleyball. Of course. The regional finals equivalent to Elite Eight this weekend were jaw dropping. Three seed Texas A M took down number one Nebraska in five thrilling sets. Nebraska was undefeated this season and were thought to be unbeaten until Sunday where they lost the first two sets in a first to three set wins format. Clinging to their season, they take the third set and we're down in the fourth until a late comeback. They battled point by point until they eked out the fourth set win with a score of 37 35. The typical winning score is 25 points. The fifth set saw Nebraska up early but Texas A and M wasn't done and they soared back to win the set and the match. A huge upset no one saw coming and the night wasn't even over there. Then later three seed Wisconsin took down one seed Texas and another big upset though I did have that one in my bracket. So congratulations to Christina.

[Katie Nolan]

Good job, good call.

[Chris]

So that sets the stage for the Final Four. We've got three seed Texas A&M against one seed Pittsburgh on Thursday 18th of December at 6:30pm Eastern. That'll be on ESPN. And then we've got Wisconsin against number one Kentucky right after that. That'll be on at about 9pm Eastern Eastern on Thursday 18th of December again also on ESPN. And then the championship game will be on Sunday afternoon at 3:30pm Eastern on ABC. The next thing Brady told me I have to include the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua 19th and people are going to talk about it. Katie Netflix didn't even know it was on this.

[Katie Nolan]

When is this? Friday.

[Chris]

Friday. The main, the main card starts at 8pm I don't know what time that means the actual fight.

[Katie Nolan]

God only knows. Brady, go ahead and tell me really quickly then what Anthony Joshua's weakness is. Why would he not be able to fight? You know what I mean? What's his.

[Brady]

I think Josh is coming back from injury. This is his first major fight back from injury but he was champion as recently as 2024. He is a prohibitive favorite to be.

[Katie Nolan]

Champion in this sport.

[Brady]

Yes, an actual heavyweight boxing champion.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Brady]

Big. He is stronger. He is more credentialed. He has a just a better track record. He is a more talented fighter than.

[Katie Nolan]

Jake Paul Are you telling me that Jake Paul is finally going to get knocked out?

[Brady]

This is why I am interested in watching this and I am fully aware.

[Katie Nolan]

That we've said this already. I've done this every time where I go, this is the time he's gonna get knocked out and I'll watch and he doesn't. I can't watch it again, Brad. I can't.

[Brady]

Anthony Joshua is only 36. He's not an old man for the earth.

[Katie Nolan]

He's a little old for the club.

[Brady]

Champion, most recently in 2021, but he's a former champion.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, we'll see, I guess. I know Chris will be glued to the tv. What else can we actually watch, Chris?

[Chris]

You know I'll be watching this one beginning. Well, it's actually already begun. But the second round is what I'm going to be touching on. It's the World Darts Championship on the Peacock.

[Katie Nolan]

A World Darts on the World Darts.

[Chris]

On the the 128 player field is competing for a share of the 5 million pound total prize fund with the winner taking home 1 million pounds. The second round begins later this week. The the day that I want to highlight is Saturday because I think this works best for all of our schedules. We've got the morning session that begins at 7:30am and rolls through until 11:30am Eastern Eastern. And then the afternoon session will be at 2pm Eastern until about 6pm Eastern. So some names we can be looking for in the second round. Luke Litlo, who already won his first round matchup. He's our guy, former former guest friend of the show, Luke Litla. We'll see how he goes.

[Katie Nolan]

He's the weren't even here that day. Think about how crazy that is. We finally get Luke Littler and you're like, I have to. I can't be here.

[Chris]

I booked these tickets before we even had.

[Isabella]

Wasn't it to see the Wiggles.

[Chris]

To see the Wiggles, yeah.

[Isabella]

That's so funny.

[Katie Nolan]

Sacrifices have to be made. Who else can we watch?

[Chris]

A couple of Americans, Leonard Gates and Adam Savada. They haven't played their first round matchups, but if you, you know, follow along with the action this week, you can see when they're playing and hopefully they get a win so we can see them in the second round as well. And then Australians Damon Heater, Joe Comido and Tim Pusey, who actually made news about a month or two ago now because he had to get rid of his nickname, the Magnet, they, they got him to, to change it. He's not allowed to have that nickname.

[Katie Nolan]

Why is that?

[Chris]

Tim Pusey no longer allowed to go with the nickname.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

The magnet. Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

Which he had for a while, but for whatever reason.

[Katie Nolan]

But they don't call it. But they're not saying the word.

[Chris]

That was his argument.

[Katie Nolan]

Can't he be a magnet?

[Chris]

That was his augment. Right.

[Katie Nolan]

And they said. Because we know what this is.

[Chris]

Exactly. Yep. Okay.

[Brady]

I just ate at him for the.

[Katie Nolan]

Longest time and now. Jesus Christ. And now he's gonna go by Tim Lips Pusey is what I heard. Okay. That's it.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's it.

[Katie Nolan]

Thanks for doing that for us, Chris. And don't forget, if you're listening to this while driving, these will be in the show notes so you can check back and go, what was I supposed to watch? And when. When were the darts gonna be on the cock? It'll be right in the show notes. You can find it. Find it there as well as I think you can find our contact information there. But I'll say it to you anyway. Guys, Casuals with Katie nolan gmail.com our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and tick tock, we are at Casuals, the podcast. If you've got any recommendations for a road trip. I mean, we take I 80 most of the way. We call it Ikati because, you know, I gotta dominate it. We switch off driving. It's a lot of driving and it always happens to snow when I'm behind the wheel. Pretty inconvenient if you ask me. But if you've got any recommendations, feel free to email those. Maybe we can have. Maybe Chris and maybe you can, like, send us emails that Dan and I can do from the car. We gotta coordinate how we're gonna do this anyway. Like, how am I doing?

[Brady]

Fantastic idea.

[Katie Nolan]

Upload this to you. Yeah, I don't know what we're gonna. But we'll figure it out and it's gonna be fun.

[Brady]

Where does Myrtle ride?

[Katie Nolan]

She gets the whole backseat. That's why the year that we had to sleep in our car, it was just so funny that she got the whole backseat and Dan and I were in the two front seats, like, trying to recline and get comfortable. Meanwhile, she's, like, sprawled out in the back, like, yeah, yeah, it's must be nice. Hopefully. Fingers crossed we don't have to sleep in the parking lot of a Motel 6. Again, it really wasn't my favorite. You know, we bonded, we got through it, but it was not my favorite. But I hope everybody has an amazing holiday season. Obviously I'll talk to you again next week and love you and mean it and we'll, we'll. Yeah, obviously. Also see you on Thursday. I'm. You guys gotta understand, I'm all over the place. We've been recording content on content. I have no idea what day of the week it is. I just want you to know I love you and I hope you have a good holiday holiday season. We'll see you on Thursday. Bye everybody. This season everyone deserves a little more and Mazda delivers with the extended driving range of the CX50 Hybrid so you can spend more time together. Standard all wheel drive in every Mazda CUV including the CX5 and room to bring everyone with three row seating in the CX90. Find more reasons to celebrate the season at the Mazda more to move you sales event.

[Brady]

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[Matt Ryan]

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[Chris]

Got all that the attention to detail.

[Matt Ryan]

Is like none other.

[Katie Nolan]

Be physical, be flat.

[Matt Ryan]

We are the winners. Tulane takes on Ole Miss followed by James Madison in Ori.

[Katie Nolan]

It it's time to bring it first.

[Matt Ryan]

Round coverage of the college football playoffs presented by allstate Saturday at 3:30 Eastern on TNT and HBO. Max, are you ready? Let's get them.