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Casuals with Katie Nolan
Emotional Josh Allen, Hatless Mike Vrabel, Sideline Soup, and the NFL Playoffs
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Hello! It's the podcast that's still not blaming the electromagnetic fields in San Francisco, but it's getting close. Today, Katie and the Casualties announce the latest merch sale, examine the proliferation of the "Aaron Rodgers' Wife is an AI Chatbot" conspiracy, and take a look at the somewhat-more-feasible-now scenario of Team USA winning the World Cup. Then, the team breaks down an incredible weekend in the NFL Playoffs with two all-time classics, including the Bears dropping a heartbreaker after Caleb Williams' legendary throw to end regulation, Isabella taking blame for the loss, Matthew Stafford defeating the weather, Microplane losing sponsorship of Cheese Grater Guy to Miller Lite, the Payts moving on (!), Drake Maye and Ann Maye taking over New England, Mike Vrabel and DeMeco Ryans losing way too much heat energy through their heads, whether CJ Stroud should've been benched, Azeez Al-Shaair paying fines for his anti-genocide eye black, the emotion in Josh Allen's voice a...
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Brady
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Katie Nolan
Hey, Isabella, did you see that? The Orioles announced they're going to give away a Tupac bobblehead later this season and now they're already on sale on eBay for $770.
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Isabella
Isn't that more than the parking prices for the college football playoffs?
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Katie Nolan
Look at that sports fan. Check out that sports fan we made in the lab. Right, Right. Yeah, it is $770. It doesn't. It does. How do you sell it when it. They're giving it away on May 8th?
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Isabella
Actually, yeah, that's a really great question. I was like, wait, you said it's coming out later this year.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
And they're giving it away to the.
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Katie Nolan
First 15, 000 fans when they take on the A's on May 8th. So just buy people to that game somehow. Yeah, but you got to be the first 15, 000. So you got to get there. I mean, people are gonna remember when the Yankees did the Seinfeld one. That was like, people went nuts for that.
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Brady
The Orioles Pride Day jersey tried to get there. It was like the first 10,000 that we got there a half hour before the gates open, they're like, dude, these are long gone. Sweet jersey, too, Brady.
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Katie Nolan
Not an ally.
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Brady
It's a very late ally.
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Katie Nolan
Not an ally. Tough. Tough to see. Hello, and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast. It does not care how much you know. We're just happy that you're here. We love sports and we want you to love sports, too. I'm Katie Nolan. I host this thing. It's my little show. Joined today by my casualties, the production crew here at SiriusXM, we have Isabella, our sports newbie.
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Isabella
Hello.
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Katie Nolan
We've got our master editor, Chris.
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Chris
Hi.
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Katie Nolan
And then.
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Brady
That's a way cooler intro than being a master of anything.
- [02:33]
Katie Nolan
Okay. I don't know why we had to compare. I Was feeling good and kind of cute. Yeah, I thought. I thought I was doing an okay job with these. You guys want new nicknames? We can brainstorm. I just wanna so people know who you are.
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Chris
I'm fine. I'm not greedy.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, thanks. Appreciate it. As usual. If you want to email us, you guys, you always can casuals with katynolenmail.com you can send us questions, you can send us answers. You can send us, as many of you do, corrections of things we say that you take issue with. You can send us a debate you've been having with your friends for 12 years that you would like our input on. It's Casuals with Katie Nolan. Gmail.com Same thing for our voicemail. 646-886-010043. And on IG and tick tock, we are at Casuals, the podcast. We just ask that if you, you know, if you're going the public comment route, say something nice. What do you. Don't show up in our comments and say something mean. What would that be for?
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Isabella
Yeah, because I see all of them and then I cry.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, you're hurting Isabella's feet. This is who you're mad at. Yeah, this is who you're hurting. This sweet little innocent angel with her big glasses and her beautiful red lips.
- [03:36]
Isabella
Oh, thank you so much.
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Katie Nolan
Looking nice today. We're all remote today because it's a holiday and in sports on holidays it just means you don't physically get to come to work, but you still got to do the work because stuff's still going on. Other thing that we're going to run into a little later, it's going to be a snag is that you guys, as always, are listening to this on a Tuesday, though it's being recorded on a Monday, and this just happens to be the Monday they choose to do the national championship college football game. So we don't know what happens and you do, but that's okay. In typical Casuals fashion, we're going to find our own way to talk about it and we'll get you updated on the most interesting stuff around it, minus the score. You can look that up, though. Like, it's really easy to look up. And if you didn't know it, you're just with us. We don't know it either. We also have no idea who won that game last night because it's tonight. Here, a little couple pieces of housekeeping number one. I just found this out today. I found it out today, but hopefully you've seen it already. Posted on social media. We're having a merch sale this week. So if you go to Sirius xm, if you don't know how that spelled, it's S I R I u s xm store.com sale. Not scale, but that you get it and use the promo code Casuals50. That gets you an extra 50% off, which is the. In the. The premium hoodie, I think is the word we're using. Probably not the good hoodie. They're both good hoodies.
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Brady
They're both good.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. One of them is more premium quality. A little higher price point, but 50% off with this sale. The hat that we've given to such illustrious guests as Liza Trager, I actually think she would, might maybe wear it. She's probably our best candidate for somebody wearing it who gave it back to us.
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Isabella
Isabella Lucas Zelnick.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Rich kid goes, hey, can I, would it be okay if I just didn't? And I said, you know what? Yeah. Yes, it would. So he gave it back. Colin Quinn took his.
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Brady
You might have the studio.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Damn, he wore it out of the studio. Is adorable. It's actually my favorite thing I've ever heard in my life. We didn't give one to Ben or Matt because I didn't want them to say no to. Or Joe or Joe. I'm still doing it because we, A, we didn't want him to say no. B, it was in the fishbowl. So we didn't get to actually bring them into our creepy little room and corner them with a hat. But yeah, it was, you know, everybody else has been handed one. So you'll be in good company if you buy that hat 50 off. You can also get a little p, a little enamel pin that says casuals. I have it on my bag. And you could put it on your purse. Unless you have a really nice purse. And then I wouldn't do that because it would have a hole in it from the pin. But every other purse, you can just pop that thing right on there. And. And that's. And that's that. What is this thing in here about Jalen Rose Brady?
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Brady
So casual's listeners have known for a while. Aaron Rogers is currently married to an AI Chatbot.
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Katie Nolan
Allegedly alleged by me. Pause, pause. As the on air talent professionally, I have to say you cannot say it like that. You've got to say it differently, which is that allegedly Brady has a theory that Aaron Rodgers's wife, Brittany, with an I. That's all we know about hers. That her name is Brittany and that it's spelled with an I. And it's not the I. I think before the T's. I think it's the I at the end instead of a Y. But again, I don't know if we know we have a. Brady has a theory that I wrongly attributed to Charlotte Wilder, which is that it's. It's actually an AI chat bot. Okay, now that's the backstory. Brady, what's the Jalen Rose thing?
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Brady
The Jalen Rose thing? Jalen Rose's daughter Mariah has her own. Has her own media bit going. Mariah is on board with the AI conspiracy. And that got a lot of pickup. A lot of people pointing it out and saying, man, this sounds crazy, but we can't dispute it. I'm getting confident enough to throw that allegedly at the end of the sentence now rather than the beginning.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I know, but your name's not on the podcast, so I feel comfortable I say it beforehand. Okay, I'm still not really understanding. She posted this on. Does she have a podcast or something? Is she.
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Brady
Yeah, and she posted the. But she posted just as a. As a reel, as a produced reel. All of her evidence, all of her background work as to why Aaron Rodgers seems to be the exact type of guy who would say that he's married. Never give any more detail. Like when he said he was immunized and then just let everybody assume he had been vaccinated against Covid, and then just let us all go on thinking it's a human woman. She's on board the AI Chatbot wife story. This is spreading like wildfire.
- [07:58]
Katie Nolan
Here's my issue. How is my algorithm not giving me that video? That video seems made for me times a million. How is that not being fed to me? And now, wait, now I'm realizing, is Mariah Rose Jalen Rose's daughter? How am I just finding that out now? Yeah, I didn't even know that was his daughter. That's very funny to me. I feel very ill informed. Okay, so she's on board with your theory. How do you feel about being responsible for this seed being planted?
- [08:27]
Brady
I didn't plant the seed. I merely pointed to where the seed was, just shedding light on it and letting it grow.
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Katie Nolan
Look, the unfortunate thing is we're probably not going to find out. I think if they had made it to the super bowl or maybe even deeper into the playoffs, we would have more of a corner to back Aaron Rodgers into in regards to telling us the truth on this. But as it stands, it's. I don't think we're ever going to get to the bottom of this. And it also sometimes makes me go, like, all right. And if it is, so what? I don't know, man.
- [08:57]
Brady
No, we can't let that slide.
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Katie Nolan
He can't get away with that.
- [08:59]
Brady
He can't keep getting away with it. He can't get away.
- [09:02]
Katie Nolan
He gets away with everything. He's just, you know, that's just how Aaron Rodgers is.
- [09:08]
Brady
The smartest guy in the room because he was able to claim that his wife was human. Then he was like, nope, she's an algorithm.
- [09:16]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, but hear me out. If she's human and we're all saying that she's AI, I feel like he's gonna use that as, like. And once again, the media attacking me, attacking me, a man very much in love with a human woman who they can't possibly imagine. I could have a human woman who, you know, I could just see him.
- [09:33]
Brady
Being like, give that 10 more seconds. It becomes Trump.
- [09:36]
Katie Nolan
I know. They all kind of morph into the same guy. In my head. You're just like, you. Come on. Well, okay, I guess we'll never know, but what we all learned here today is that Mariah Rose is Jalen Rose's daughter. And also that she's. That she's old enough to be.
- [09:53]
Brady
I mean, Jen was in College in 1990.
- [09:55]
Katie Nolan
I know. It just hurts. It just hurts to go. That woman that I thought maybe was like a peer of mine is actually the child of a peer of mine. Okay.
- [10:04]
Isabella
A former peer of my.
- [10:05]
Katie Nolan
It's like. It's a little. I'm a little jarred by it. But if you don't follow Mariah Rose, she's great. So find her on whatever you use and follow her there. I don't really have a yap, dude. I've just been watching football. There has been so much football being watched in this house. In fact, the only game we actually turned off early this weekend, would you believe it? Is that 49ers game?
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Chris
Yes, I believe it.
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Katie Nolan
Couldn't do it anymore. And so what stage of the game did.
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Chris
Was that turned off, by the way?
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Katie Nolan
It was. Believe it. We made it to the fourth quarter.
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Brady
Has she made it to the end zone yet before he turned it off?
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Katie Nolan
I don't think I. I there. It was a tough game, and we will get into all of that in a little bit. I was just trying to see if there was anything in here to yap about. I just don't. I don't really have anything. Did you see the. The basketball? They played a basketball game in London and the. They remember last year Isabelle, we were talking about the four nations hockey and booing during the anthem. How other like Canada was mad and they were booing during our anthem this. They did a basketball game in London on Sunday and Vanessa Williams shout out was singing the national anthem and somebody yelled out in the crowd, leave Greenland alone. And and a bunch like the crowd like cheered. It's a good feeling. It feels like. It feels like everything's really going well here and abroad, people. I think sentiments around this great nation are high. I think vibes are up and I think everything's going really well. So yeah, so that's the prediction.
- [11:42]
Brady
I also would say otherwise.
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Katie Nolan
I also. I hate the fucking prediction markets. I hate that you can gamble on like is America cooked odd. Say you're like, what do you. Isn't. Aren't we going to suffer enough and not have to like lose additional money? Dan also said. And that always. That's basically like saying allegedly. We should just establish that for this podcast. When I say Dan told me you can go. That's an alleged.
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Brady
Dan told me she is a chatbot.
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Katie Nolan
Dan told me that he saw countries were threatening that they were going to pull out of the World cup and or the Olympics if the US didn't drop this whole Greenland thing. And I was like this is would be such a silly and stupid thing to be the thing is that how we win. Like what a dumb. Oh my God. Wait, wait. It's the ultimate America first. You have the World cup here, force everybody else to drop out because of your a number of things, trying to take over other countries, kidnapping leaders of other countries, an immigration policy that changes on the way on a whim and then nobody shows up and then we win de facto the World Cup. It's a really evil way to get there. It's a really evil way to get there. But if they pull it off, we're.
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Brady
Throwing a birthday party, nobody's showing up and we're just going to sit around being like, look at how much cake we get to eat. This is great.
- [13:07]
Katie Nolan
That really. That really rocked me. Well, there's your yap. Let's go ahead and take a quick break. I'm gonna reassess my life and when we come back, we'll talk about the weekend of football. Hey, I don't know what it is about the world now, but finding clothes that look good and actually also feel good is such a challenge. And that is where Viori comes in. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes that move with you. From lounging at home to layering up for a chilly commute, it's effortless, elevated style that you will actually to live in. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential Wide Leg Pant are made with Vori's signature Dream Knit fabric. It is their softest premium stretch material. Lightweight, it's moisture wicking and it's effortless to wear anywhere. Add the Restore Oversized Hoodie for an easy pulled together look. I wore my Restore Oversized hoodie to work the other day and everybody was like I love that hoodie. It's an investment in your happiness. For our listeners, they're offering 20% off of your first purchase. So get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on The Planet at vuori.com Casuals v u o r I.com/casuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions.
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- [14:52]
Katie Nolan
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Isabella
With the bold.
- [14:59]
Katie Nolan
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- [15:34]
Katie Nolan
Okay, the divisional round of the NFL playoffs. Do we have Isabella's picks? I think I remember them, but just in case, Isabelle, do you remember who you had picked for every game?
- [15:44]
Isabella
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. And yeah, we'll go game by game. We're going to start with Rams Bears, Sunday night's game, the last game, the most recent game that's fresh in our memory. It was also what we were calling the Isabella bowl because if you'll remember and you've been following along this season in Isabella's first season as a football fan. First season running a fantasy football team. She drafted and ran our podcasts team in our league. She won. And her quarterback was Caleb Williams. And her. She had Pukinakua as her, I think, wide receiver one, I assume.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Didn't you also have Kyron Williams as your running back? Yes. So it was like a big game for. It was like Isabella versus Isabella. You also kind of picked the Bears as your team this season, but I don't remember if we decided for sure that's who you were rooting for.
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Isabella
I didn't decide for sure, but it kind of just naturally unfolded that way.
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Chris
You were doing a lot of hedging there. You weren't willing to commit 100% to.
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Katie Nolan
The Bears, and that's fair for her. You know, we were kind of backing her into a corner and being like, pick a team to root for. But you had the orange and the blue connection because you're a Mets fan and you really like Caleb, and. And so that was sort of a natural fit for you. And what a season they've had. And so this. I really regret sending a text message last night, but last night we're watching this game. It's obviously a very close game in. It's 17 to 10. The Rams are up in the final minute of regulation, and it's fourth and four, which means basically, this is the last shot. They've got to get into the end zone. They've got to get into the end zone or at least get. I mean, it was the last minute, so they had to get 4 yards, but it was a shot to the end zone was basically your only chance. Caleb dropped all the way back to the 40 and launches the ball in the air, and Dan and I are both going, oh, my God, what is he doing? What are you doing? And then all of a sudden, we realize what he's doing, and it's throwing a touchdown. He hits Kemet, who's in the. In the back of the end zone. Cole Comet. They score the tying touchdown with 18 seconds left in this game. I'm screaming. Like, I literally screamed. It was electric. Kevin Harlan's call of it was amazing. So go look that up if you haven't. It's incredible. I text the group chat that we have for casuals, and I'm like, isabella, Caleb did it. Oh, my God. Come to find out, Isabella, were you all. You were. Oh, that's right. You were away this weekend.
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Isabella
Yeah, I was in Georgia, so I, like, I just was not even paying attention. And then she didn't have that.
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Katie Nolan
She's like, I couldn't figure out the tv. I can't figure out how to get the tv. I know I kept getting this in.
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Isabella
Game, live of the game. And I'm like, why do I care about hearing someone talk about the game.
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Katie Nolan
Trying to watch the game? And so she's like, I can't get it figured out. And then what happened next was the game goes to overtime and the Bears, they stop them, they get the ball, they're driving down the field. And then Caleb threw a pick and it was next score wins. Which is a little confusing, I assume to a new NFL fan. Isabella thought there was four minutes left in the overtime period.
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Chris
I think we all agree with you, Isabella.
- [19:06]
Katie Nolan
I. Yeah, it's just a silly. I get how confusing it is. I think overtime rules in general change so often. And whenever they put him on screen and it's like a full essay, you're like, could we maybe think about a way to make this simpler? I don't think when they make the ref give the speech of like, the following rules are as follows, like, okay, it's too much. But they kick a field goal and the Rams win and beat the Bears. And Isabella broke my heart when you said, I he threw that pick because of me. You said, I got it figured out. Brady said, hope you didn't figure out your TV once he threw the pick and Isabella said he threw the interception.
- [19:41]
Isabella
The first thing I saw once I figured out the TV was the interception. And I was like, you, I now.
- [19:47]
Chris
You a true sports fan, Isabella.
- [19:49]
Katie Nolan
And now you know what it feel. I am so protective of her little sports fan heart. I'm so like, I'm treating it like a fire that we've just created. And I know that any wind or moisture could ruin this entire thing. And I'm just lightly like covering it and blowing fragile ecosystem. And so when you turned it on and watched him throw a pick, my first thought, I was like, no, they could still do it. And knowing full well that was not gonna be what happened. But I, I just am so like, scared of your fandom. But at the end of the day, it really, this is what it is.
- [20:24]
Chris
But this is what she's experienced with all of her teams. This is what happened with the Mets. This is what happened with the Knicks. This is what happened with her parley last week. Everything that Isabella puts her heart into looks like it's going to really well.
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Isabella
Damn, Chris, way to rub my salt into the wound.
- [20:42]
Chris
No, I'm, I'm, I'm sympathizing with you. I'm saying how difficult it's been for you because it wasn't just this game. It's been time and time and time again. Sports trick you into thinking you're having a lot of fun and that your teams are going to dominate. And then at the last second, at the last moment, at the last round, the last game, the last month of the season, whatever it is, the team start falling away. And I feel very, very sorry for you, Isabella. And you're handling it like a champ. The fact that you're still willing to continue on means that your skin is, is being thickened already.
- [21:16]
Brady
Get back up off the ground. You don't stay down. You don't get down yourself. Duvall. Duvall. Isabella Duvall.
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Isabella
It's so funny.
- [21:27]
Katie Nolan
I've actually technically getting paid to be a sports fan, so it does. I do think there's. I could see a little bit of a benefit, but I am also very proud of you.
- [21:35]
Isabella
Thank you.
- [21:36]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
And go Caleb.
- [21:38]
Katie Nolan
Go Caleb. Did you see him after the game? I mean, listen, he is not moved either way after he scores a big touchdown. He's cold as ice, he's focused. He's locked back in after they lose in a stunning, in a sad, devastating way like that. He's, you know, self. He's introspective. He's like examining the loss. But he, he was like, hey, we fought hard. We. He just seems so cool in every situation. Nothing really rocks him one way or the other.
- [22:05]
Brady
And he had an off season workout routine, like immediately after the game, talking to the press, he's like, here's what we're going to work on. Here's. We're going to do it. We're going to set up these off season workouts. He was ready to go. Like, he wasn't.
- [22:15]
Katie Nolan
The least relatable thing on earth is that immediately after losing a huge athletic contest, he's already like, I'm setting up my workout routine for the off season. One thing I really liked, I saw before the game is because, listen, Caleb has been. He was it. Chicago took a second to embrace him. Or I guess a section of the fan base or a subsection of NFL fans were very resistant to the idea of this quarterback leader of a franchise who paints his nails and drinks Matcha. And I think a lot of people throughout this season have come to the other side, the correct side, which is like, this guy is a baller. This guy's a dog. This guy has that dog in him. And I saw a bunch of I guess non stereotypical or I guess stereotypical Bears fans, but not stereotypical for the activity that they were doing. Going out and getting before this game as their pregame routine. Getting matcha and getting. Going to a nail salon and getting their nails painted. And they basically said it like, I've. I'm convinced this is my guy, and if this works for him, maybe it'll work for me. I can try it. And there's just something about that that made me go like, all right, the.
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Brady
Bears brought back cheese grater guy, but KitchenAid and Microplane, like, did not pay for his ticket. You know who paid for his ticket? Miller Lite paid for the guy's tickets.
- [23:32]
Katie Nolan
Huh.
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Brady
The easiest brand deal if you make cheese graters that you could ever put together and they couldn't get off their ass to get this guy tickets. Miller Lite had to do it.
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Katie Nolan
Miller Lite did it.
- [23:42]
Brady
Well, that's sold cheese graters to every single Bears fan in Chicago. Bad marketing. Microplane. Damn little handheld graders.
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Katie Nolan
Damn. Tell them, Brady.
- [23:55]
Brady
Just a opportunity lost.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, you guys. Money and cheese on the table. So the Rams win. The Rams. Matthew Stafford. Man, we gotta get me one of those vans that makes you age backwards and park it outside of my apartment. Okay, can somebody write that down? That's something we have to remember to do is get that for me because clearly it worked.
- [24:15]
Chris
Might be a good birthday present.
- [24:16]
Brady
Primer.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, good birthday present.
- [24:19]
Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Only, like, a week away. Myrtle's birthday is this week.
- [24:23]
Isabella
Your birthday's, like, what, 28th?
- [24:25]
Katie Nolan
Mm.
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Isabella
Okay.
- [24:30]
Katie Nolan
Last time it was, like, our second episode. Maybe first.
- [24:33]
Chris
No, second. Because with Dan. Right?
- [24:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Funny. Okay, did I say the Rams win? Stafford wins, and they. They move on. It's. Sorry, Isabella, but it's still. I mean, what a good team. The Rams are really good.
- [24:51]
Isabella
Yeah, whatever.
- [24:54]
Katie Nolan
Okay, well, maybe you can get excited for this one. The Patriots beat the Houston Texans, 2018.
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Isabella
Go paid. I knew it.
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Katie Nolan
Let's Go Paids. That's who you picked, right? Okay, good. And. And that was Sunday. That was the early game on Sunday. The Patriots are now going to the AFC Championship game for the first time in seven years. It's been a long drought. It's been a long time. And, boy, I know everybody has missed us. The New England pates. But we are back, so. And just in time for Isabella to be a football fan so she can experience it for the first time and not bring any of the jadedness of people who hate us from the old times. So. Right, Isabella, this is A fresh, exciting team for you.
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Isabella
This actually is a fresh team for me.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. So you're like, I don't know anything about the history. I think they look pretty cool.
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Brady
Haven't even introduced Isabella yet to Drake May's wife, who I feel like that is.
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Chris
Oh, yeah.
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Katie Nolan
And Michael.
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Brady
Gotta go.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, you gotta meet Ann, Michael. She did a bakemas. I think that's where you bake something every day, I assume for the month of December. And the fun part was watching Patriots fans in the comments of Ann Michael May's tiktoks being like, if. If Drake likes Eminem cookies and I like Eminem cookies, or like being supportive of her content in a really sweet way. Because they all love Drake May. Sweet little baby Drake May so much.
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Isabella
How old is he?
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Chris
23.
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Brady
Second year in the NFL. Probably 24, 25 somewhere in there. 23, maybe 23.
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Katie Nolan
I was right, 23. He's got a little baby face, don't he?
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, he had an okay game. Can we be honest? He had an okay game.
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Brady
I mean, compared to C.J. stroud.
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Katie Nolan
I know.
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Chris
It's like the defense on both ends. My goodness.
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Katie Nolan
C.J. stroud happened to have the exact game a quarterback on the other side of the field would have to. Have to not talk about the one that Drake May had. I think Drake May did score a touchdown. I don't know. That did CJ1, maybe. It was a mess. It was a messy game. A lot of.
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Chris
We also didn't have Nico Collins, his number one wide receiver. And then Dalton Schultz left the game early on, who's like his safety blanket. So he didn't have a lot of weapons or he didn't have his usual array of weapons.
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Katie Nolan
Not a lot of weapons. And the weather was a nightmare. It was like a good old wintry mix. You know, when they do that on the forecast, W I N T R. And then I feel like there's always like an apostrophe and then the Y. It's like wintry mix. It was like wet rain, and then it was like sleet, and then it was heavy snow. It just. I cannot imagine. It is so fascinating to me the way we expect football players to play exactly the same when the weather is entirely different. Like throwing a football and throwing a wet football aren't that similar. I feel like it's an entirely different. You have to adjust. Otherwise it's going to look crazy. And a lot of what C.J. stroud ended up doing looked crazy. Now, I saw people online saying during that game that they should bench him at the half. Did that see. Does that seem a little excessive?
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Brady
They were asking about it on the broadcast. They, they were throwing like the, like, will C.J. come back out? It's a tough. It has worked in the past. Like sometimes if you take that extreme step, it has worked. But that's like, that's like in case of fire, like break glass like you, you make that, there's no going back. It's a tough.
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Katie Nolan
You bench a guy in a playoff game and I don't, he's not going to play for you again. He has to go. He can kill his confidence.
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Brady
Nick Saban benched Jalen hurts for TUA back at Alabama and Jalen hurts transferred. It's like I'm out of here.
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Chris
And this is a team that's coming off a 10 game win streak. They'd win the last 10 games. He had a bad half because of reasons that we mentioned.
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Katie Nolan
Well, coming off of a bad game the week before, he did not have a good playoff game last week.
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Chris
Still one though.
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Katie Nolan
Technically. Yes, technically, the team did still win.
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Chris
Yeah, one one td. He, he scored over the weekend. Four interceptions though.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, it was a tough game to play. It was a tough game to watch. I still don't think I could bench my quarterback because then they, let's say they come back. Then you've got, I mean we're going to get to what happened to the quarterback in Denver. But then you would have had a crazy what, Davis Mills, Jarrett Stidham. That doesn't make any sense for a championship game. So I don't know. I think, look, I think he had a bad game. I think a lot of quarterbacks this weekend had pretty bad games. But Stroud definitely the worst one.
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Brady
It was so cold out, the teams were breaking out the, you see the, the, the vats of chicken broth. They were doing the chicken broth on the sideline next to the water cooler.
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Katie Nolan
I saw that for the Bears game. I don't know if I paid attention enough to see it for the Pats.
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Brady
Thought I saw it twice. But you were seeing. It was like, it was like water, chicken, cocoa, chicken broth.
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Katie Nolan
They were wearing scuba suits. Yeah, there was something. They did a report before that Bears game about how the Rams brought like some, some thousands of pounds of cold weather gear to prepare for how cold it was going to be. I really can't say enough. If you're the head coach of a team and it's a weather game, you don't look less manly if you put an effing hat on your head so that if you're Demo Ryan's, you don't. Your bald head doesn't just have a pile of snow accumulating at of it. The whole time I was, like, looking to see. It was like, melting down his head. I'm like, buddy, put a hat on. Okay? It. You don't have to. Same thing with Val Vrabel had hair, but he also had these, like, hoods that are right by his head. And then it's like, would it kill you to pull the thing on? We're not going to judge you if you don't want your head to be wet and covered in rain snow. Put a hat on you. Absolute freak.
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Isabella
Yeah, that's really cold.
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Katie Nolan
Yes, it is. Very. And you're gonna get sick. You're gonna get sick, Mike Frable. And we need you out here healthy, okay? Because you're our sweet, sweet man who's gonna lead our team to a Super bowl championship. Worth mentioning, and I would really like to mention last week, Aziz Al Shayer. He's a linebacker for the Texans. He was fined over $11,000 because on his eye black, he wrote, stop the genocide. Even though he was fined, that didn't stop him. He wore it again this game, and when he was asked about it, he said, I knew that was. I knew that that was a fine. I understood what I was doing. I was told that if I wore that in the game, I would be pulled out of the game. I think that was the part that I was confused about. He was not pulled out of the game.
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Chris
Well, he took it off once the game began. I think in warm ups, he might have had it on and then removed it once the game began, but. But the message still stood. He was still seen with that eye black beforehand.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, and I don't know. Something about just going like. I knew it was a fine. There's a lot worse things than money. I've got the money. I'll pay for it. Is. I respect that. So sorry that we beat you, but good message. That's nice, right? That works.
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Brady
That's perfect.
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Katie Nolan
Fair. And that fits.
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Brady
You didn't have to throw in the sorry, we beat you part.
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Katie Nolan
But we did. But didn't we? And the record must reflect. And then let's do the Bills game. Wow, we. Wow, we. The Broncos and the Bills. This one was on Saturday, but what a devastating. What a turn of events. The Broncos beat the Bills 33 to 30 in overtime on Saturday. Josh Allen had not turned the ball over in his previous six playoff appearances. Threw two interceptions and lost two fumbles. He did not have a good game. The team did not have a good game in general. There was a controversial call that I immediately was like, this is going to be a nightmare. I do not envy the NFL. And we'll get into that, Isabella. But let's first listen to the audio that everybody's talking about, which is Josh Allen's post game sound.
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Brady
It's extremely difficult.
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Katie Nolan
I feel like I, Yeah, feel like.
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Chris
I let my teammates down tonight.
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Brady
It's been a long season. I hate how it ended.
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Chris
And that's.
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Brady
That's gonna stick with me for a long time now.
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Katie Nolan
I know.
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Chris
And, dude, super sad.
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Katie Nolan
Super sad. And I wanna make sure it's. I'm clear that obviously I am pro crying. I think everybody should be crying more. I think it's an important release. I understand it. It does make me immediately go like, I don't like this. That being said, I do think that there is a bit of a difference in the way people are talking about a bad quarterback performance when it's Josh Allen versus when it's other quarterbacks. And I do want to just, like, make note of that being strange. I do feel like the way we talk about Josh Allen sometimes is a little bit like that sweet, poor baby boy. And he did make a bunch of mistakes in this game. And he'll admit that. That's why he says he feels like he let his team down. It also made me emotional to see his teammates find out that he had just said that he felt like he let his team down and his teammates got choked up. And we're like, he didn't let us down, man. Like that. I was like, oh, my God, boys. Lifting other boys up and wanting to comfort other boys, like, is just like a. Making me feel very emotional and sad for this team. But it was a messy game. The Bills, right before the half had a, like, chance to maybe do something. But instead of doing something positive for themselves, they turned the ball over and let Denver kick a field goal again right after they had just scored a touchdown. And so it was just like a. It didn't. It wasn't a good game. Um, then after the game, I mean, there. Should we talk about the big call? Okay, so a controversial call, Isabella. There was a pass. It was thrown to Brandon Cooks from the Bills. He goes to the ground. It appears to catch it, right? But Jaquan McMillan from the Broncos comes up from the ground with the ball in his hands. So they call it an interception, and then they show us the replay and it's like the ball gets caught, and as soon as he establishes that he's caught it, his knee hits the ground, which means. Would mean he's down, which means it was, you know, he caught it. But then as they're, like, rolling together and tumbling, it's like a Mobius strip of possession in which it goes from being held by the receiver to being held by the defender, and the defender comes up with it. They don't spend as much time reviewing it as I think we all thought they were going to. People feel very strongly either way that it was a catch and he should have been down when his knee hit the ground. And then other people argue that you have to make a football move after your knee. Like, even after you establish that you've got the ball and you have control of the ball, and he wasn't able to make a football move because the ball was taken from him. Chris and Brady, how did you feel when you saw it versus how do you feel now?
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Brady
So in real time, just. It depends on what side you're looking at. From. From, like, the broadcast side. From the camera, it looked like McMillan rolled away with the ball, but then for your other side, you see Cooks come down and land with the ball, and then from that side, it looks like it's definitely a catch by Cooks. And all at the same time, it's like, this sport may just be entirely impossible to adjudicate in real time. Like. Like, I. I don't know what this is supposed to be. I think the argument on both sides makes perfect sense. I think in that case, you probably rule it a catch, because that was the first thing that happened, is that he caught it and hit the ground. And let's just. Let's call it a catch. But this is, like, really, like, the most. Right down the middle, you can break down as granular of the rules as possible, and it doesn't seem to get any clearer at all.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I feel like this is. What if. This is why we have refs. They have to make a call, and this is the call that they made. I think it could have gone either way. I think there's a number of other things you could point to in this game that, like, yeah, that call can still not go your way, and you could have still won if you did these. It's like, it didn't all come down to this, but, man, I did not end with the NFL in that moment where it was like, this play is going to be debated forever, and. And it. And it's going to be one of the last plays of a team's season.
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Brady
There's no right answer on it. It just felt like there was no, like, definite answer to it whatsoever.
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Chris
Yeah, that's the thing we have to make clear to casual sports fans or people who aren't as ingrained in the world of the NFL as perhaps we are. The fact that we still don't really know what a catch is. And this sort of comes up every year whenever there's a conversation like this. NFL fans still struggle to determine, and the NFL itself really struggles to determine what a catch is. That's sort of a big narrative that's, you know, gone from season to season, not really understanding exactly what a catch is. So if you're a casual fan not understanding how a call goes one way or another, or feel bad, you don't really understand, don't feel bad, because everyone else is in the same boat. It's still so hard in the NFL to determine what a catch actually is.
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Katie Nolan
Which is such a cool selling point to a casual fan, where you're like, yeah.
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Isabella
So I'm like, okay, yeah, word, because.
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Katie Nolan
I have a casual fan, is like, yeah, at least throw and catch. I know what those are. And you're like, you think you do, but after a year of watching this, you're gonna go, wait a second. What? That's not a catch.
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Brady
Like, you can't make a rule that gets any closer to establishing one. Like, the more rules it gets. No closer. Well, make it like the Supreme Court and porn. Like, let's just call this. Someone has to say, that's a catch. Looks like a catch to me.
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Chris
Not if I see it.
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Brady
Yeah, that's a catch.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, it really is. The more words you add to a rule to try to clarify it, the more murky it gets. And so this is one of those things they're trying to make as clear as possible. And some days it's going to go your way, and some days it's not going to go your way. I will say the pass interference calling in the postseason's been very interesting. I feel like it's happened in, like, really pivotal moments for some teams. And the. There's other teams that, like, they go, well, let them. Let them get there. Let them play. And you're like, well, but in what situation then do we call it? I feel like in a. In a big moment, it better be obvious pass interference for you to make that call to give such a crucial first down. And I feel like in a couple games, I'll just say across a Couple so I don't get fined by the league for speaking out against the refs.
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Brady
Suddenly our super bowl credentials will not work. Work.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, no.
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Brady
It's felt like at the end of that game, though, Sean Payton was just like, just. What do they call spawn camping. Like, he just realized at the end, instead of trying to complete long passes, these guys are so tired, I'm just going to throw three deep balls and try to get two pass interferences. And that's how they got to the field goal. Like, just lobbing it up there and winning the game by getting penalties felt cheap as hell.
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Katie Nolan
It did. It did. And then after the game, these are kind of the big, even bigger headlines. We found out this morning, Monday morning, that the Bills fired head coach Sean McDermott. It was something. Yeah, it was something. We had been. You had. We talked about it a little bit because there was that Adam Schefter report when the coaching carousel was sort of starting to spin that there may be one more coach if their team makes an early exit from the playoffs, which we assumed meant last week that might fire their head coach. And people were thinking that might be Sean McDermott. Then obviously they won their first, I believe, road playoff win. And then this week they lose, and they did go ahead and fire him. Now, what's interesting is that their gm. Isabella, do you remember on fan service when we played the clip of a GM of a team that called into a radio station. Yeah. And was, like, talking, like, yelling at people for being like, what do you mean? We didn't sign any receivers.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That guy still has a job and got a promotion.
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Isabella
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
And he's now the president of football operations and he's going to help the team find their next head coach.
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Isabella
Oh, how long has this coach been on the team?
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Katie Nolan
Nine. Nine seasons? I believe so.
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Isabella
A good amount of time.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, Isabella, he's also got an incredible record. He just. He has a 98 and 50 record.
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Chris
And he was also in Holiday Touchdown. A Bill's Love Story. Isabella.
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Katie Nolan
That's right.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Because he loves Buffalo. And one of his last sound bites is him yelling about that call and being like, I'm standing up for Buffalo, I'm standing up for us. And then they fired him. It's kind of a bummer.
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Isabella
Well, also, wasn't the whole narrative around the Bills this season that, like, it's. They just. Just. It was just Josh Allen carrying the team kind of thing. So how is that the coach's fault?
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Katie Nolan
Right. Wouldn't that be the fault of the guy who picks the people, who supplies the people, who decides who makes up the roster. Wouldn't that be the gm? Wouldn't you not give him.
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Brady
Were you mad that after that game we did not get a sound bite of Haley outside an elevator screaming that he can't throw and catch the ball himself?
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Katie Nolan
Throw the ball and also catch it.
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Isabella
Oh, I didn't hear that.
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Katie Nolan
Giselle said that about Tom Brady back in. In the day. Oh, he can't throw the ball and also catch the ball.
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Isabella
That's funny.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, she's the best.
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Brady
Well, the problem with that is that Josh Allen last year did throw a touchdown pass to himself. So that kind of discredits that.
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Katie Nolan
The other problem with that is that, listen, I know everybody was going back and posting their 2016s. That was like a big thing this week. Unfortunately, Haley Steinfeld, wife of Josh Allen, the quarterback of the bills in 2016, was wearing a Broncos jersey, celebrating after they won the Super Bowl. And so they have, you know, Denver fans after the win were posting that quite a bit. If you can imagine his wife in Denver stuff, supporting their team who had just beaten his team. Not all blue skies for Denver and their fans, though, because after the game, like right after the game, we find out that their quarterback, Bo Nix, suffered a broken right ankle late in the game, unlike the second to last play, and he will miss the rest of the season. And so their backup quarterback, Jarrett Stidham, former New England Patriot for a second, he was our backup. I believe that was the season we brought in Cam Newton. He's only taken one snap this season. Isabella. He's appeared in only 20 total games.
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Isabella
What's a snap again?
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Katie Nolan
When you go like hike, and they give the ball to you, you have the ball in your hands and you played one point something. He did it once this year and he's only been in 20 games total in six seasons. He started four games and he won one. So tough to have to now go to the AFC championship, the next last step before the super bowl, and play the Patriots with your backup quarter.
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Isabella
That sucks. Yeah, about that, though.
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Katie Nolan
I don't. I don't. What do you mean? What. How would I possibly feel? I feel sad for Bo Nix. I think that sucks. That's a really shitty way. He was crying before the game was over on the sideline. And at first I was like, hey man, wait till the game ends before you get so overwhelmed by emotion that you're crying because you're going to an AFC. How dare you. And then like, like 60 seconds later I was like, sorry, I didn't realize you were crying because you knew that you have to go have season ending surgery. Which by the way, 9:45 on Saturday, they announced that he's already booked for surgery on Tuesday. And I'm like, that must be nice. That part, the rest of it sucks. But the like, don't worry, I'm already booked for surgery. It's next week. And the doctor picked up my call at 9:30 on a Saturday night. But yeah, kind of a bummer. But hey, he could be great. He could be great. I, I, I remember a game where they, he was, he went in because I think this was Brady. And we put him in because we were beating somebody really badly. And then they put in Stidham. Stidham, like threw a pick six. And then they put Brady back out there. They were like, okay, well let's not. We tried it. We thought. But no. So I'm not saying that's that he won't win. Anything can happen any given Sunday. Isabella.
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Brady
Philip Rivers spoiled us so much as just in terms of that story that as soon as I heard Bo Nixon's hurt, I was like, all right, old quarterbacks, who we got, who, who's running out of that 10 right now? And then I'm thinking like, all right, Philip Rivers was there because he knew that offense, who would know Sean Payton's offense? And immediately googling, how old is Drew Brees? Ken Drew Brees, quarterback, the Broncos tomorrow. And if he wanted to, he could, but he won't.
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Katie Nolan
Let's not get.
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Brady
Damn it. Did my brain immediately go to let's put Drew Brees behind center for the Broncos.
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Katie Nolan
A backup quarterback's job is to be ready for this moment. So maybe he's only taken one snap this season, but he's been there at practice. He's not just like sitting at home being like, yeah, I don't know. I guess if something happens, but nothing's gonna happen, he's there. He's like absorbing the and imagine if you didn't get to talk, right? If in this you didn't get to talk for a year and then in the biggest moment you got to do the talking. You might be like, yeah, I got a lot to say. Cause I've been not saying anything all year. So he might be out here going like, I'm excited to run this team. I don't know. I don't know. Who knows? Isabella, Anything could happen.
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Isabella
Anything could happen.
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Katie Nolan
Dan's my mother in law. Dan's mom is a Broncos fan. And she texted me. She's like a healthy, like, gentleman's bet, like a friendly wager. I was like, sure. She's like, I think we should bet dinner that the winner has to either take or the loser has to either take or make dinner for the winner. And I was like, absolutely accepted. Because if I lose, you have to eat my cooking. I would love that.
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Brady
Corn casserole for everyone.
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Katie Nolan
Trish is an incredible cook, and now she's. What she has signed herself up for is that she. She thought by writing take or make to dinner. And it's like, yeah. You thought I would be like, yeah, I would take and you would make. No, no. If I lose, I'm making you dinner. You're gonna eat it. You're gonna eat every bite. You're gonna compliment the chef, too. All right, our Niners fans. Okay, is our next topic. Guys. No is the answer. The Niners got whooped, absolutely whooped by the Seahawks, 41 to 6. Don't tell him I said that. He's just going to walk in the door at any moment, too. This really could time out perfectly. They beat the Niners. This was Saturday night's game. Right away, right away, you turn the game on, and it's seven nothing. Because 13 seconds into the game, they returned the opening kick 95 yards into the end zone. It was immediately a touchdown Isabella, which was a just a nice kick, swift kick to the chest. To anybody who has tuned in to root on their depleted roster of hurt young men, they were missing George Kittle, their tight end. They were missing Fred Warner and Nick Bosa. They've been out forever. Fred Warner was actually up in a box watching, I think maybe on like, a headset or something and whatever. And by they started getting beat so bad, Fred Warner came down to the sideline and was, like, on the sideline with the guys, trying to hype them up and get them back in the game. It did not work. As I said, 41 to 6 was the final score of this contest. Before the game, everybody was like, sam Darnold's got an oblique injury. Sam Darnold hasn't thrown a football since Thursday. Sam Darnold hasn't even been out on the field today. There was all this palace intrigue about the Sam Darnold might actually not play in this game. And then it ended up being just fine for him. And it was the Niners, obviously, who suffered and had a tough time. I think at some point, Tonis, their backup tight end, even left the game. It was a mess. Now I Know, we've. I think we've discussed briefly that there was a conspiracy theory that has since been at least struck down by medical professionals and. And the like about an electrical substation near the 49ers practice facility and the effect that that could have on their tendons and joints, ET Etc. So I. I'm willing to accept that that's not why they are the most team over and over and over and over. But I do think at this point, we got to figure out what it actually is, because something's going on. Why are they always hurt? Why are they dropping like flies? Why are their limbs snapping constantly if it's just a coincidence? My, my, my. It is one hell of a coincidence. So I feel like I know Kyle Shanahan has, like, a. A challenging practice schedule, right? Doesn't he, like, not take one of the days off? He, like, takes the day off at the wrong time. That isn't advised. Is it just that because. Stop doing that. It's like watching somebody lose a game of the team that they love because the very talented players that they have keep getting hurt is, like, one of the more frustrating sports fan experiences, I think, where you're like, we've got the guys, we've got the coach, we've got the heart. We want to do it. We just can't stay on the field because our bodies keep falling apart. I would be nuts. If I were a Niners fan, I would be, like, livid. It would have driven me insane by now because it just keeps happening.
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Chris
But at least it took till this game for Christian McCaffrey to get injured.
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Katie Nolan
Second quarter. He returned in the third quarter, and then he left the game. I mean, Christian McCaffrey, Brock Purdy, who had an injury at the beginning of this season, these, like, putting the team, like, having to drag this, like, hobbled roster. They put up a good fight. They put up a good fight and they beat the Eagles.
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Brady
And we think.
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Katie Nolan
I kept saying. That's what I kept saying. I said, you beat the Eagles, okay? You. You beat. You didn't get into the postseason and fall off. You beat. You won one game. Yes, it sucked. Sucks that you lost to Seattle. Yes, it sucks doubly that now the NFC Championship Game is between two of your division rivals, the Rams and the Seahawks, which means no matter what happens in that game, one of them's going to play a Super bowl in your house. That sucks. That sucks really, really bad because the Niners are hosting the super bowl this year. The super bowl is in San Francisco.
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Isabella
That's Right, that's right.
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Katie Nolan
So the NFC team that wins is either going to be the Rams, which is their division rival, or the Seahawks, which is their division rival. So either way, they've got to know that, like, it couldn't have been one of those other teams. It has to be these two teams playing a Super bowl in their house. So that sucks. And I feel really bad for Niners fans, and I think they deserve answers. I don't have them, and I'm not going to be the one going to get them, but I do think they deserve them, and somebody should be.
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Brady
It's the Electrons.
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Katie Nolan
Somebody should be figuring it out. Okay, so now that we know the four teams that are moving forward, we thought it would be a good idea to sort of break them down by category, to kind of rank them by likability for the casual fan who has no rooting interest. So we have some categories that we were going to go through for each of the four teams. And then, Isabella, we thought you could help be the judge of who's the most likable of the stories that we tell you, basically.
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Isabella
Okay, sounds good to me.
- [52:55]
Katie Nolan
All right, so we'll start with their quarterback. Is the quarterback interesting? For the Patriots, you have Drake May, the Broncos, Jarrett Stidham. The Rams have an old Matthew Stafford, and the Seahawks have questionably injured Sam Darnold.
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Brady
Despite knowing nothing about Jared Stidham. I'm gonna say Sam Darnold's the least interesting of the four.
- [53:19]
Katie Nolan
Wow.
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Adobe Acrobat Advertiser
Wow.
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Brady
So Sam Darnold, for everything he's done. I. I don't still, to this point, know an interesting thing about Sam Darling Darnold.
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Katie Nolan
Wasn't Sam Darnold the one that he made the mono graphic for?
- [53:33]
Brady
Yeah, the graphic. Espn. When he was out with mono, it was just him pointing to the camera.
- [53:37]
Katie Nolan
Be like, out mono, mononucleosis. And he was like, pointing. It was very strange.
- [53:43]
Isabella
I think that's interesting. Is Matthew Stafford?
- [53:47]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
Yeah, to me.
- [53:49]
Katie Nolan
Why?
- [53:50]
Isabella
I don't know. He seems like he's been doing really good, and he's older, and I like that.
- [53:55]
Katie Nolan
Okay. I'm not mad at you. I just was asking for a reason.
- [53:57]
Brady
I don't know.
- [53:58]
Katie Nolan
I was fighting.
- [53:59]
Isabella
I was scared that you were upset at.
- [54:01]
Brady
He's older. He's got a million kids. He and his wife are adorable.
- [54:04]
Katie Nolan
He went, a million kids? Isabella, they've got 11.
- [54:08]
Brady
It's a lot.
- [54:08]
Katie Nolan
It's like, that's Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers has 11, but Matthew might.
- [54:12]
Brady
Have nine somewhere in there.
- [54:14]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, yeah. You know.
- [54:17]
Isabella
Okay.
- [54:18]
Katie Nolan
So he's a busy guy.
- [54:19]
Brady
High school buddy with Clayton Kershaw, which they may mention once or twice every time he plays.
- [54:23]
Katie Nolan
You know, she doesn't care about that. You know for a fact.
- [54:26]
Isabella
You know, I'm on Kershaw talk.
- [54:29]
Katie Nolan
Kershaw as they're calling it. Okay, next category. Is their coach a psychopath or just a regular guy? The Pates have Mike Rabel, who's. I mean, kind of.
- [54:40]
Isabella
He's regular.
- [54:40]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [54:41]
Brady
Once did say he would rather he would cut off his penis if it meant he could win a Super Bowl.
- [54:45]
Katie Nolan
He did say that.
- [54:47]
Isabella
Oh, you guys did not mention that to me.
- [54:49]
Katie Nolan
He did. And now. And now that we have. Does that change? What does that change for you? A little bit.
- [54:54]
Isabella
I'm a little nervous. Okay, keep going.
- [54:56]
Katie Nolan
Okay. The Broncos have Sean Payton psychopath. And why don't you go ahead and tell her why that is.
- [55:02]
Brady
Sean Payton was suspended by the NFL for one year, two years for putting. For being responsible for putting bounties on opposing players where his pairs would get. Get paid bonuses if they injured other players.
- [55:15]
Katie Nolan
Why? It was a huge controversy in the NFL. They got in a lot of trouble, but they basically got caught putting bounties on the heads of other players.
- [55:23]
Isabella
And he still.
- [55:24]
Katie Nolan
Coach came back, we let him back in. Here he is. He's in charge now. The Broncos, then the rams have Sean McVeigh.
- [55:34]
Brady
Seems normal. Second longest tenured coach is still under 40, but I think he's kind of normal. Just has like that freak show long term like memory where he has that quirk where he can remember like every play he's ever called in his career.
- [55:48]
Katie Nolan
Crazy. It's crazy. And also when he first got here, Isabella, he was young. And when they hired him every the next year, teams that were looking for coaches, if you had ever even had like a cup of coffee with Sean McVay, you put it on your resume and it got you an interview. People were like super into Sean McVeigh. Anyone who knew him. And then the Seahawks have Mike McDonald coaching the Seahawks. Dan and I were doing this all weekend. I keep forget. Here's the thing about Michael Singer. No, it's. Michael McDonald is a singer, and this guy's name is Mike McDonald, which is kind of the same thing. Mike McDonald's eyes are all pupil to me. Sometimes I'm just like, what is the color of your eye? Is it it black? I sometimes I look at his face and I'm like, you are scaring me.
- [56:43]
Isabella
Wait, let me get a zoom in. Oh, yeah, they're very dark.
- [56:45]
Katie Nolan
You're like, hello. Are they the darkest brow? Is everything okay? Are you over dilated? What's going on?
- [56:53]
Isabella
Really? Puppy dog eyes.
- [56:54]
Katie Nolan
And so for that, I don't trust the guy. Oh, but. But I don't think he's a. I don't think I know enough to say he's a psychopath. I'll just say I don't know what's going on at that.
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Brady
But Isabella, who gets the advantage there?
- [57:08]
Katie Nolan
Wait.
- [57:08]
Isabella
Can repeat for me what Mike V. Said he would do?
- [57:11]
Katie Nolan
Cut off his penis if it meant he could win the Super Bowl.
- [57:15]
Isabella
You know, I mean.
- [57:19]
Katie Nolan
Commitment.
- [57:21]
Isabella
Yeah, right? Dedication. I don't know.
- [57:23]
Katie Nolan
Crosses one thing off your list. If you're his wife, you're like, don't worry about that anymore, all right?
- [57:26]
Isabella
I'm gonna choose my.
- [57:27]
Katie Nolan
That's right, baby. That's my coach. Okay. Is their city in their fan base easy to root for? And we measure that with who is their most enjoyable celebrity fan. That's why we have this structured this way. Or did we just mean to. Okay, so we have the Patriots, who, again, like I said, you don't really have the prior experience to think differently on this. Our team can be just as easy to root for, I would say. I guess helpful context is like, we were kind of insufferable there for a little while, but so would you be if you want all those Super Bowls. So please.
- [58:02]
Isabella
Yeah.
- [58:03]
Katie Nolan
And our most famous fans probably Ben and Matt, who are guests on this.
- [58:07]
Isabella
Podcast, and Katie Nolan.
- [58:09]
Katie Nolan
That's right. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. And probably like Bill Simmons, the Broncos. Their fans are fine.
- [58:21]
Isabella
Who are these people?
- [58:22]
Katie Nolan
The Denver Broncos?
- [58:24]
Isabella
No, these. These pants people.
- [58:26]
Katie Nolan
Oh, you don't know Trey Parker and Matt Stone?
- [58:30]
Isabella
Trey Parker? No. Well, his face kind of looks familiar.
- [58:33]
Brady
But that is a massive generational.
- [58:38]
Katie Nolan
Yes, she does. They are the creators of South Park.
- [58:40]
Brady
If she saw the award show dress.
- [58:44]
Katie Nolan
You'Ve remember when JLo wore that green. What was it? Dolce and Gabbana plunging dress?
- [58:49]
Isabella
They.
- [58:49]
Katie Nolan
I think they. One of them at least. Weren't they on drugs when they did that?
- [58:53]
Brady
Oh, yeah.
- [58:54]
Katie Nolan
They dropped acid at the Oscars. And one of them wore that dress.
- [58:57]
Isabella
Oh, okay. Oh, I see here.
- [59:00]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Oh, I see here.
- [59:03]
Chris
Okay.
- [59:03]
Katie Nolan
Then the Rams have Brenda Song. Who knows? Ball and I Do Love probably did that Disney thing that we always. Oh, yeah, you're watching.
- [59:14]
Isabella
She was London Tipton.
- [59:15]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And then the Seahawks have Kenny Maine and Kenny Maine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And immediately Kenny Maine.
- [59:27]
Isabella
Kenny Maine made a really good impression on me.
- [59:29]
Katie Nolan
I know. He really is the Best.
- [59:31]
Isabella
Ah, this is tough.
- [59:33]
Katie Nolan
Now I will say. Dan will make me say, the Seahawks did steal their whole thing from Texas A M. They call themselves the 12th Man. In fact, they now have to call themselves the 12. Themselves the twelves, because they were sued, I believe, by whoever is in charge of that at Texas A and M. And they were like, that's our thing. You can't use that. So now instead of calling themselves the 12th man, they just call themselves the Twelves. And Dan thinks that's really embarrassing. So anyway, that being said, who do you think has the better the celebrity fan and. Or fan base? Who are you picking for most? Likability.
- [60:07]
Isabella
That's hard because those are two different things.
- [60:09]
Katie Nolan
I know, but I'm gonna give. I'm gonna say. You're saying Seahawks because you like Kenny, and that's. You're allowed to do that. You can say.
- [60:16]
Isabella
Okay, I'm gonna choose. I'm gonna choose Shout Out Brenda Song. I'm gonna choose the Rams.
- [60:23]
Katie Nolan
Okay. Okay, Rams fans, all three of them, very excited by this news. How red are their red flags? Oh, I hate this category. Okay, so the Patriots, Stefan.
- [60:33]
Brady
It is a necessary category, though.
- [60:35]
Katie Nolan
Brady. I. I've. I've worked in the industry quite some time. I've spent a lot of time in this area discussing these issues. The Patriots, Stefan Diggs and Christian Barmore are both facing assault charges. The Broncos, Dre Greenlaw was suspended for one game this year because he chased a ref down the tunnel. Okay, the Rams Pukinakua. Remember, he went on Aiden Ross's stream, and then his brother also allegedly stole a Lakers player's car.
- [61:10]
Isabella
I'm gonna have to cross the Rams.
- [61:12]
Katie Nolan
It's pretty tough. Puka's making it tough stuff. I mean, man, is that guy talented, but, boy, does he do dumb stuff a lot. Quite a bit. And then the Seahawks, Derek hall was suspended for one game this season for stepping on Kevin Dotson's leg from the Rams.
- [61:28]
Isabella
Like, during the game.
- [61:29]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [61:30]
Brady
Yeah.
- [61:30]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Yes.
- [61:32]
Isabella
Intentionally.
- [61:33]
Brady
Yeah, they don't let you do that. Just.
- [61:35]
Katie Nolan
Okay, so those are the red flags. Who would you say has the most likable red flags of the bunch?
- [61:42]
Brady
Oof.
- [61:43]
Isabella
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with the guy chasing. Chasing the ref down the tunnel.
- [61:47]
Katie Nolan
And unfortunately, that is the correct answer. That is the funny. The one that's funny, I feel. The one that's kind of funny. Probably scary for the ref. Probably very scary for the ref. But I assume he didn't, like, get him and tackle him, or that would be what it says there instead of saying that they chased him down the tunnel. Okay, so that's your. There's your postseason. Maybe we should have Isabella pick the games in the C block of the Nest next episode. Does that sound good? Brady? On Thursday we'll have her give her picks because your picks haven't been that bad. This. This week was not season. No, but it was a tough week for a lot of people, you know. And you were picking with your heart and now you pick with your intuition.
- [62:30]
Isabella
Okay.
- [62:30]
Katie Nolan
Okay. Did you. Did the post it notes come out for Chicago?
- [62:34]
Isabella
No.
- [62:35]
Katie Nolan
No.
- [62:35]
Isabella
I wish you wasn't at home. I wasn't.
- [62:37]
Katie Nolan
It's a road game.
- [62:38]
Isabella
I wasn't around any of my, my, my supplies, you know.
- [62:42]
Katie Nolan
No. I'm so sorry.
- [62:44]
Isabella
It's okay.
- [62:45]
Katie Nolan
If you, if you had been, think of how different things could have gone. You know, if only you cared enough, you know.
- [62:51]
Isabella
Oh my God.
- [62:52]
Katie Nolan
I know. I won't tell Caleb.
- [62:54]
Isabella
Yeah. Please don't.
- [62:55]
Katie Nolan
I won't. Okay. Other big news, we got to kind of fly through these because it's already been about an hour but we talked last week about John Harbaugh, former Baltimore Ravens head coach was fired. He has now been named the 21st head coach of your New York football Giants. He agreed to a five year 100 million dollar contract. Harbaugh told the Athletics Ian O' Connor that he'll report directly to John. Mara. Mara. Mara. Mara. I feel like in New York they say Mara like Mario and I and I'm. And so that's why I go. I would say Mara but they all I think say Mara.
- [63:33]
Brady
Kate and Rooney are definitely Mara.
- [63:35]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [63:35]
Brady
So we're going Mara.
- [63:36]
Katie Nolan
Okay. So he won't be reporting to the. To the general manager and he is the Giants fifth head coach. 7 if you include interims since Tom Coughlin required resigned in January of 2016. So they've been through a bunch of head coaches and he was with the Ravens for 18 seasons. We talked about that mostly last week. We talked about his career. He was fired after closing out a disappointing 8 and 9 season. All time he was. He had 180 wins and 113 losses with the Ravens in the regular season and he led them to a Super bowl victory in 2013. New York from just judging off the little bit of it that I speak to on the radio show on fan service are they're very excited about this hire. They seem to think that this is going to be the thing and now they'll be returned to greatness. Now I would Say there's usually a stop between where they're at now and greatness. And it's just like being good. I think they should aim for that. But it does kind of feel like a, an adult in the room at a much needed time. And even if his experience is all that he has going for him, it's still kind of exactly what they need, at least in my opinion in New York. So I. Brady, I don't know if you had more you wanted to say.
- [64:52]
Brady
About it, but yeah, the adult in the room thing is big because they've done five different first time head coaches since Coughlin and now it's just a guy who just has his feet on the ground. Like a guy who just knows the next step towards winning and isn't trying to figure it out on the fly. I'm blown away. Five years and $100 million is a lot of money to coach football.
- [65:10]
Katie Nolan
It is, it is.
- [65:12]
Brady
It's like there's a salary cap on the players, but there's absolutely nothing on the coaches. So you mean might as well, I guess just spend all your money on coaches for a competitive advantage. I guess.
- [65:22]
Katie Nolan
Well, and I mean, good thing they got this, good thing they got this signed because you just, you know, a new head coaching job has opened up. There are so many openings across the league that, you know, clearly they wanted to get the ink dry on the paper on this. They announced it before it was even signed. Schefter was like, it's coming. They're still working things out, but it's coming. And I was like, yeah, well, that people have said that before. I would be, don't announce it till it's inked. But it's now inked. So there you have it.
- [65:52]
Brady
Great. Look for the gm, when the report just comes out that, yeah, the coach is going to report directly to the owner and not to you. Like, cool. Yeah, well, just sit over here.
- [66:00]
Katie Nolan
Like it's. It doesn't make any sense to me, but all right, so that's how that's gonna go. I saw people making a big deal about how long his meeting with Jackson Dart was. And you're like, well, as long as in that meeting he was like, hey, son, you can't play football this way anymore. You gotta update the way you do things or you're not gonna have a very long career. Because I feel like that's what he needs the most. But we'll see how that goes. You know, I love when the New York Football Giants are good. You know, I'm a huge Fan of it. Kyle Tucker signed with the Dodgers. Did you see that? Isabella? Do you happen to see that Kyle Tucker, the consensus best player available in free agency, agreed to join the Dodgers on 4 year old 240 million dollar contract which includes opt outs after the second and third season. I also saw in typical Dodger fashion, a lot of the money is like delayed. It's not right. I saw you got a signing bonus, but the 10 million of the signing bonus is deferred, which is like. That doesn't logically make any sense. A signing bonus is a bonus you get when you sign. So that's kind of crazy. Unless you're just going to make him sign something else in a couple years to get the the rest of the 10. I have no idea how any of that works. But what I do know is that they get everybody, the Dodgers get everybody and they paid this guy. After all of the math of the contract, he's making more aav, which is the average annual value per year than Juan Stto and he learned this and he's gonna bat sixth in their order. He's projected to bat sixth. It's just like what is another team supposed to do? This is the meltdown I had on the radio was that like the. The sports fan in me Mrs. When this used to be separate from the person me who knew how the world worked. But I just am looking at these conversations about salary caps and how the baseball is going to have to get a salary cap because the Dodgers can't keep getting away with this. And I'm like what they're getting away with is spending their money. I wish all of the teams would have to spend their money like this. That it wasn't just that one team could come in and spend their money and have an advantage, quote unquote. It's like these other teams should also be spending money, their money. There's a lot of teams that just want to moneyball their way into a a roster that doesn't cost any money. And they ship people away as soon as they identify them as having talent because they would rather run their team like a business than like an actual team that requires fans. And fans don't hold teams to account and make them spend their money, they show up anyway. The Red Sox, after getting rid of Mookie Betts, a generational talent who has now announced he's gonna retire at the end of his current Dodgers contract. Whenever that is, it's not very, very soon ship them out. And they kept selling out games because fans show up because they're loyal to the team, they're loyal to the experience, but instead these owners take advantage of that. And that pisses me off. And it would be crazy to me if in America's pastime, the sport that we always hold up as like the truly American thing, you put a salary cap on the players. What America doesn't do salary caps. That's kind of the whole reason we're in this, this absolute nightmare hellscape right now is because the people with all the money are allowed to bend the rules to make more money for themselves. That's how it goes. And so if you're gonna put a cap on the players, you better put a cap on the owners too. And they would not allow that. And so it's just like a. I hate that this is the way that I sound like I'm arguing in support of the Dodgers. And I'm not. I'm not. Because I'm sick of them getting every single player. I'm sick of it. I don't hate time. What? Go ahead.
- [69:30]
Brady
I don't hate the Dodgers like, and I don't think you hate the Dodgers like generally like, don't hate what they're doing. I hate the scenarios because what they're doing is spending a ton of money. Except what's different for them? Because they don't fucking miss. They don't miss. The guys they sign are good and they play well. They play well together and they win games like the Mets spend a shitload of money and it all works out in the wash because they, it falls apart. But the Dyers just make smart deals and they make this deal with Kyle Tucker, they pay him a ton of money because it's only going to be a short term deal. They're going to have him for four years at like the prime of his career and then their commitment will be over and they won't have him for any decline years and it's just all going to work. And that's the most frustrating part of it, that they spend a shitload of money smartly. If they were just dumbasses for a while, it would all work out.
- [70:21]
Katie Nolan
I do think that somebody's got to address the, the deal that they worked out from their cable. They have a special deal with baseball in regards to the money they get from their cable deal. I don't understand it because I'm not a finance business reporter, okay? And I hate having to understand this stuff. But what I do know is they're the only team with this exemption and it allows them to not have to, like, rev share some of the money that most other teams would have to rev share. And I do feel like as these problems grow and nobody knows what the real solution is, that seems like a good place to start, is like, that that was carved out in a bankruptcy settlement. And so it's like, that doesn't seem like they're still in that type of a position. I think we need to revisit that and figure that out, because people are not going to like that once they understand what it is. And again, I'm not. Not even there yet. I don't really get it yet. But what I do know is it's an advantage and they don't need it. So take it away, please.
- [71:17]
Brady
Isabella, my apologies for throwing strays at the Mets there.
- [71:21]
Isabella
It's okay.
- [71:22]
Brady
It was factually accurate, but they did not deserve that.
- [71:24]
Katie Nolan
It's true. It's true. College football. Yeah.
- [71:29]
Isabella
He's good, right?
- [71:30]
Katie Nolan
He's good. He's good.
- [71:31]
Isabella
And I like saying his name.
- [71:32]
Katie Nolan
Have you seen Bo Bichette?
- [71:34]
Isabella
I looked him up this morning, and apparently he had long hair, but he.
- [71:37]
Katie Nolan
Doesn'T anymore, which is but one of the great tragedies of our time. Bobaette. Cutting his hair was a. Was a terrible mistake. And hopefully he gets to New York and he reverses his decision because.
- [71:48]
Isabella
Yeah, the.
- [71:50]
Katie Nolan
I mean, he used to. Just. The way you shake it out, you know, and, like, run his hands through it. It was, like, really majestic and. And other words. Yeah. Boba Shet. Did we say that yet here? That the Mets signed him for $126.
- [72:08]
Brady
Million because they were the ones that had. They were in the running to get Kyle Tucker. And then out of nowhere, the Hodges is like, nope, us.
- [72:15]
Katie Nolan
And then. So the Mets were like, well, we have all this money.
- [72:18]
Brady
We'll just give it to a guy to play third base.
- [72:19]
Katie Nolan
Do you want this?
- [72:20]
Brady
Doesn't play third base.
- [72:21]
Katie Nolan
Well, you know, he can do a lot of stuff, Boba Shet. He's very, very talented. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. I don't want to talk about third base, you know, because it's like.
- [72:31]
Isabella
Yeah, I know.
- [72:32]
Chris
Okay.
- [72:32]
Brady
But the last option for the Red Sox for third base is the most likable guy you could buy. Possibly sign.
- [72:37]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Who's that? Oh, suarez.
- [72:40]
Brady
Yes.
- [72:41]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. A.O. suarez. Imagine, Isabella, after all my screaming about him, imagine if they. If he became a Red Sock. I'd be pretty happy about that. That would be fine. That'd be enough to shut me up for another season. Or however many more and ride with this team that makes me want to rip my effing hair out. College football, like we said, the national championship game. What a game. What a game. It hasn't happened yet, but I believe you when you say it was an awesome game. Google it if you want to know the score because we can't tell it to you because it again, isn't real yet. It has yet to come to fruition. I did want to touch on a quick college football story. I fear that if we discuss it, it will pull in about six other college football stories. But we'll see. We'll see how this goes. I don't know if you guys saw the Carson Beck press conference sound before the game. Somebody asked him. I don't know if the question makes it into the clip, but somebody asked if he has class after the championship game. Let's just play the the clip and hear his response. Carson, I'm curious, did you have class yesterday? If so, what class?
- [73:51]
Brady
No, class I. I graduated two years ago, so obviously I've been working towards other degrees now that I've gone to Miami, but these programs take a little longer than just a year to finish. So obviously I'm not enrolling again next semester. So I will be done after this season.
- [74:08]
Isabella
I'm dumb. I thought you meant class. Like, do you, do you even have class?
- [74:14]
Katie Nolan
Like from Parent Trap?
- [74:18]
Isabella
Like, did he do something rude or inappropriate?
- [74:24]
Brady
Classless. Classless act by Carson back.
- [74:26]
Katie Nolan
He technically is classless. It's just a different way of it, of it being. Now that you know that we mean like school, like the school that you're supposed to be going to when you play college football.
- [74:41]
Isabella
Yeah. So how is he still on this team if he doesn't go?
- [74:47]
Katie Nolan
This is what I'm saying. This is why college football is something I've always kept at arms length because it's just like every new thing I learn, I go, well, that doesn't make any sense. If you tried to explain college football to an alien and you were like, well, you can coach a team until they get to the playoffs and then leave them to go to the playoffs on their own because you have to take another coaching job. If you wanted to take another job, you would have to abandon your team before the playoffs and people do it, you'd go, that doesn't make any sense. And if they said, oh, and the quarterback from this team actually hasn't been in school, he graduated. He just still gets to be the quarterback of the college team. He graduated and then transferred and is now a quarterback after having graduated from a different school. Is the quarterback of this school. I don't.
- [75:40]
Brady
He is Matthew McConaughey outside the bowling alley now, it's like, why are you still here?
- [75:44]
Katie Nolan
He is Van Wilder. He is like, just you. This is. How is this allowed? And then a college football fan will go, you stupid idiot. It's because of this rule and this rule and this rule. And it actually makes sense if you love college football instead of ever just going like, yeah, I know. That is absolutely absurd. Yeah, I know. You're right. It doesn't make any sense. It sounds kind of broken and really needs to be fixed.
- [76:08]
Brady
He directly admits in that clip, I graduated two years ago. Obviously, I'm enrolled in a graduate program, but I have not been attending classes for the last two years, and I am obviously not going to finish this graduate program.
- [76:22]
Katie Nolan
It's crazy to just go like, yeah, thanks for asking. I don't do school. I signed up for school as is required, but nobody makes sure I go. So. Actually, it used to be such a big deal for college football to say student athlete, because it was really important that they emphasize, because they weren't being paid, that they were students first and then athletes, and that the. The scholarships and the free education were the payment. And then now we've gone so far so quickly to the other way where, like, guy's not even a student, doesn't even have to pretend to be a student, doesn't even have to, like, kind of attend class to meet some sort of a standard so that nobody calls him out on the fact that he does not go to school. He's just allowed to do that, cash a check and then head out. So that's pretty cool.
- [77:11]
Brady
I think we need to just call it something different, like calling it college football doesn't feel right. He's playing football at a college.
- [77:20]
Katie Nolan
I mean, it shouldn't be. How is that allowed, Brady? I don't understand. And then I also. I hear that my. Well, I guess if I were an Ole Miss fan, I would have said my quarterback. But I've never rooted for Ole Miss because that school has very racist path. But their quarterback, Trinidad Chambliss, is now suing the ncaa, saying he will lose millions of dollars if he's forced to go to the NFL because they told him they denied him a sixth year of college eligibility.
- [77:47]
Brady
Yeah, which everybody's hanging on to. You know, everybody's hanging on to the. The COVID rules about transfer and how many red shirts they can take for injury. He Claiming, like, surgery he had for his tonsils or something in this mess. Chambers like to say that I'm going to lose money if you make me go to the NFL is such logical insanity based on everything we've ever known about amateur athletics. Dante Moore, the quarterback from Oregon, was. Seemed like a lock to be the number two pick in the draft behind Mendoza. He is going back to school because he's going to make more money by going back to Oregon than going into the NFL. Which the fallout from that is also hilarious because Dylan Raiola had just transferred from Nebraska to Oregon. He entered the portal, went to Oregon. Also, hilariously, the week after Patrick Mahomes lost a bet and had to wear an Oregon jersey.
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Katie Nolan
Great.
- [78:48]
Brady
Went to Oregon. Now Dante Moore is coming back. So Dylan Raiola is transferring from being the starter at Nebraska to now being the backup at Oregon.
- [78:55]
Katie Nolan
Oh, my. This is broken.
- [78:58]
Brady
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Bradford, Bradley, whatever Brady's short for the long version of it. This is broken. This. Braden, this doesn't make any sense.
- [79:09]
Brady
No.
- [79:10]
Katie Nolan
Crazy. But okay, sure. Look, I'm all for. Look, I want them to be paid. I think if enough of an industry is built on the back of a college football player, like, watching how many people were making their money off of college football, knowing that none of the college football players were making any money. That was a broken system as well. Well, but what it seems like they've done now is been, like, cool, you can pay them, and then also, they can be here forever. And then also, they don't have to go to school. And then also, the coaches have to leave if they want to coach a different team. And then also, and then also. And then also.
- [79:39]
Brady
And then also, because we're paying them, we can now charge you 700 for parking.
- [79:43]
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. It's just like, is somebody gonna. Is it. Is somebody coming to fix this? Is somebody gonna go, like. And then how many kids enter the portal every year? And then they don't actually transfer schools? Do they just go back to their school's program and go, like, I'd actually like to stay? Is that. How does that work?
- [80:04]
Brady
I think. I don't think the portal makes it mandatory that you have to transfer.
- [80:08]
Katie Nolan
I don't think so either. But I imagine your team moves on from planning to have you there for the future.
- [80:12]
Brady
Tell your significant other, like, I think we should see other people and then come back, be like, I didn't find anybody.
- [80:17]
Katie Nolan
I didn't find anybody. It's like when men are like, I'd like to open our relationship. And then the Woman gets a ton of offers and the man is like, I'd like to close our relationship back up. I think I don't like the way this has worked out. It's just a mess. Everything's kind of a mess in college football. But I hope everyone enjoyed the game that happened last night. What a game. Wow. What a game. Can't believe the team that won one.
- [80:36]
Brady
Beck and or Mendoza was awesome.
- [80:38]
Katie Nolan
I really, I mean, I think I can't do it because it will jinx it. But I do feel there is one team that will win. I think is. I think, okay, that's all I'm comfortable saying. Because knowing me, they'll do the opposite and then I'll get fired. That's it really. Right. We've got. I checked in on the Turning Point Half USA halftime show just to see if anything's going on. They have removed the poll asking you who they should book. So that's a little bit of progress because a couple weeks ago they were still going, who do you guys want to see at our, at our thing we announced in October and it's was like turning 20, 26. And they were still asking you, by the way, the super bowl is February one what, fourth, eighth? So running out of time. They've removed the poll, but they are saying it is still happening. I saw an article that said it's happening. It's going to be in an arena. It's a real production here. TP USA spokesperson Andrew Colette said October 10th. So that's the last I think we've heard from a spokesperson on the event. But the words used there are really, they're just like a thing you would say if you had literally nothing else to say about it. It's real, it's happening and it's gonna be inside. It's like a. This is food, it's made of ingredients and they are edible. It's like a very vague. But I guess we will see what they can.
- [82:06]
Brady
We talk about the logistics of how it work. So you're putting on a halftime concert. You don't know when halftime's going to start, right? It's at most going to be like 12 minutes long, I guess. So you need to fill people into an arena to get them to watch the show instead of having them at home to watch the Super Bowl. These are people who would care about a Super bowl halftime show, but not the super bowl itself. Fill them in there to watch a 12 minute concert at an arena and then I guess you just, I don't know, give them more concert.
- [82:33]
Katie Nolan
You'd have to play the game. I mean, listen, I'm not trying to help them plan the thing, but you would have to play the game on whatever the jumbotron of the arena arena is for the first and second half. That way they would know when the perform. You would be able to keep track of the performance happening and people would go and watch and have like a. If they were smart, that's what they would do. Sell the communal experience of like watch the super bowl with people that also think like you do politically, I guess. And then watch this cool halftime show of Kid Rock and Nicki Minaj. Question mark. I don't know, I just. Those would be probably the two biggest names they could get right.
- [83:08]
Brady
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- [83:12]
Katie Nolan
I did. Yeah, I did like that verse for Monster.
- [83:16]
Brady
Oh, so such a large fraction of that song is problematic now.
- [83:20]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I know, it's tough. Hey, fun stuff. Hey, good way to wrap up the pod. Let's go ahead and take a quick break. Okay. And when we come back, Chris is going to tell us what we can watch if we want to watch some sports this week. We'll be right back. Back.
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Call 1-800-granger. Click granger.com or just stop by Granger for the ones who get it done. Okay, as always, this is the part of the podcast where Chris puts together for us a list of things we can watch if we wanted to watch some sports this week. Chris, I know we got some big stuff. What do we have this week?
- [85:41]
Chris
The first one's the Australian Open. The Australian Open just started this week. I know Isabella is very interested in how in how that's going every day. This week you're going to get games starting at about 7:00pm Eastern and going all night. So if you're an ID owl like Katie, you can just pretty much have it on in the background. Watch it all night until you fall asleep. It's sort of the perfect night owls schedule there.
- [86:02]
Katie Nolan
What else you got?
- [86:04]
Chris
On Saturday, June 24 at 5:30am Eastern on Peacock, we have the Kitsbool Downhill. Now let me read an email out from Craig to give you the full context of why I want to point this out. Craig says, as the husband of a former World cup skier, it's been fun hearing you guys keep up with some of the goings on in the World cup ski season this year. My wife's career at the top level was very brief, cut short due to injury. As such, she finds a lot of ski racing tough to watch these days, despite keeping up with what's going on. The exceptions to that are the Winter Olympics and the Kizball Downhill, which is this Saturday, January 24th. It's the super bowl of downhill skiing. It's the most challenging course of the season and draws in one of the biggest crowds in ski racing. We thought Chris may want to include this in the what to watch this week. As I mentioned before, it's airing on peacock in the US at 5:30am Eastern and re airing in Canada at 5:00pm Eastern on CBC. Unfortunately, this race is only for the men, though Lindsey Von has skied the course in an exhibition a few years ago. Regardless, it's a fun event and shows the craziness of downhill skiing, with races reaching speeds of over 90 miles an hour and often looking like they're trying to survive as much as they are win.
- [87:14]
Katie Nolan
Damn that. See, I spent most of that trying to figure out if the word you were saying before downhill was something that had you said it in English, I would understand. But because you speak Australian, I was just trying to. I was like, what's he saying? But turns out, no, I don't know that word.
- [87:28]
Chris
Anyway, Kit Spool or Kids Buell. I've heard both, but I think it sounds wild.
- [87:34]
Isabella
Kids.
- [87:35]
Katie Nolan
I would totally watch that. Why? No women? Don't know. Well, fix it, Chris.
- [87:41]
Chris
Sorry guys.
- [87:42]
Brady
19 mile per hour seems too goddamn fast.
- [87:45]
Katie Nolan
Just in general, I don't know. Thank you. That's crazy. What's the last thing?
- [87:52]
Chris
The final thing. And this was recommended by Herman, who emailed and asked me to mention Shout Out.
- [87:58]
Katie Nolan
Herman? I don't think I've ever met a Herman Herman.
- [88:01]
Chris
Big listener of the pod. He wanted me to mention cricket. The big Bash League, which is the Australian T20. The competition. That concludes this weekend. We have the semi finals going on this weekend. The matchup I want to highlight is the Hobart Hurricanes against the Melbourne Stars. Melbourne Stars are my second favorite team in the big Bash League after the Melbourne Renegades. I was always a renegade rather than.
- [88:21]
Katie Nolan
A star, of course.
- [88:22]
Chris
But that's all right. That matchup will be on Wednesday, January 21st at 3:30am but that's Eastern, so if you're on the West coast, it's 12:30. If you're in Australia, it's prime time. So that's fine because we have a lot of Australian listeners. You can watch that game on Willow tv, which is available with a. If you want to get Fubo, a seven day free trial of Fubo. You can watch that game with the. With the Willow TV add on there. So maybe check that out. But the winner of that match will face off against the winner of Perth Scorches and Sydney Sixes matchup. That that final will be on Saturday night slash Sunday morning our time. So make sure you check out that. And one, I just wanted to mention real quickly here, one of the bowlers for the Melbourne Stars, Peter Siddle, renowned darts fan. I've spoken to him about the darts before. When. When the darts was in Melbourne a few years back.
- [89:11]
Katie Nolan
Wow. Incredible.
- [89:12]
Chris
On our side, he's a little bit le fan, surely.
- [89:14]
Katie Nolan
And just as a little asterisk. Two big football games on Sunday.
- [89:18]
Chris
Sure. We did spend an hour talking about.
- [89:20]
Katie Nolan
Just saying two pretty big football games. I know the cricket.
- [89:22]
Brady
Let's go pace BBL news in there somehow.
- [89:25]
Chris
Exactly. Big Herman wants me to talk some bbl, so I'm going to talk some BBL names.
- [89:29]
Katie Nolan
Can we stop calling it bbl?
- [89:31]
Brady
You want to get through all the bloopers in the bbl. You just Google BBL disasters. And it's just.
- [89:36]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I wouldn't. Here's the thing. Work computer. I definitely wouldn't. Okay, that's it for the show, you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in. We will be back here on Thursday. Who's our guest this week?
- [89:47]
Brady
Jay Jordan in the house.
- [89:48]
Katie Nolan
That's right. Oh, I'm excited. Okay, Jay Jordan's gonna be here. That'll be really fun. Oh, maybe we'll talk heated rivalry and. Oh, did you finish?
- [89:57]
Isabella
I did.
- [89:58]
Katie Nolan
Okay, we have to talk. We'll save that. We'll talk about this on Thursday's episode. We love you guys. We mean it. Go, Bates. We'll see you on Thursday. Bye.
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Brady
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