Etsy Witches, Horse Girls, and Explaining the SEC | with Katherine Blanford

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan – Episode Summary

Episode: Etsy Witches, Horse Girls, and Explaining the SEC
Date: September 18, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan (SiriusXM)
Guest: Katherine Blanford (Comedian, “Coastal Idiots” podcast co-host)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Casuals swings from sports headlines to hilariously casual confessions, listener stories, and a feature interview with comedian Katherine Blanford. The gang dives into everything from McDonald's chicken nugget dares and Etsy witches’ baseball curses, to insider college football and the deeper, weirder corners of SEC culture—with a healthy dose of horse girl lore and sports-adjacent celebrity gossip. With plenty of signature Katie Nolan vibes—warm, roasty, inclusive, and irreverent—the episode helps make sports conversation fun and accessible, ditching any "old men in suits" gatekeeping energy.

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1. Opening Banter: Voicemails, Emails, and “Housekeeping”

Timestamps: 01:05 – 21:14

Emails from Listeners:

• Chicken Nugget Hospitalization:

  • Listener "Sigh" ate 82 McDonald’s nuggets in 2 hours on a dare (03:04). Failed to hit 100 in 12 hours due to running out of hot mustard and ended up in hospital after puking blood and passing out at a birthday party.
  • Katie: “You had 12 full hours to do a hundred. You did not have to do what you did. …You front loaded it. Sigh. That’s a rookie mistake. Yourself in front of your family is crazy.” (04:31)

• McNugget Science:

  • They discuss the advent of “all white meat” nuggets, realizing Sigh’s incident took place post-2003 transition, clearing McNuggets of suspicion (05:06).

• Chicken Nugget Preferences:

  • The group reminisces on preferences for different McNugget shapes, especially the ‘booty’ (boot) shape (05:31).

Voicemail – Celebrity Sports Gossip:

• Tennis Love Triangle:

  • Listener Sharon flags drama around model Brooks Nader allegedly dating both tennis stars Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner at the US Open (07:21).
  • Katie traces Brooks Nader’s reality show content fueling the rumors, noting it all seems sourced from her sisters—“I just get a little…” (11:46).
  • The crew muses: "Do we live in an era now where you can just say that you challengered the two guys from the US Open and everyone will go, 'whoa'?" (11:13)

• Tennis Journalism Commentary:

  • “If this happens in the NFL, Schefter’s all over it. We have no tennis Schefter. And it’s allowing a lot of bullshit.” (13:00) – Unknown Casuals member

• Taylor Townsend Update:

  • Katie expresses disappointment over tennis player Taylor Townsend’s IG story in China, citing cultural insensitivity but notes Townsend apologized (14:26).

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2. Sports, Witches & Weirdness

Timestamps: 15:26 – 22:04

Mariners Curse Lifted by Etsy Witch:

• Fan buys a spell from an Etsy witch to break Mariners’ losing slump. Mariners went on a winning tear (15:30).

• Debate erupts over how one proves their credentials as an Etsy witch, pricing/spell quality (16:38):

  "Etsy witches are having a year. ...I love that the coven has gone capitalist." – Katie Nolan & Brady (16:48; 16:50)

• Witchcraft Pricing:

  • Digital spells are cheap ($3–28), up to hundreds for “blood magic” (18:38).
  • Isabella: “I only want to buy a spell when there’s a discount clearance.” (19:07)

Mariners Baseball Update:

• “Big Dumper” Cal Raleigh breaks Mariners switch hitter homer record; Julio Rodríguez as ‘bigger dumper’ (21:14).
• "It's not like he's the only person with a big butt." – Isabella (21:57)

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3. Quick News Hits & Katie’s Casuals Crew

WNBA Awards:

• Paige Bueckers wins Rookie of the Year (22:17)
• Anxiety around TV spirit tunnels (22:35)
• Travis Kelce quote on wedding planning being easier than catching a football (23:28) — “Wedding planning will be easy compared to trying to figure out how to fucking catch a goddamn football.” – Travis Kelce (23:48)

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4. Guest Segment: Comedian Katherine Blanford

Timestamps: 28:50 – 88:04

A. Fashion & Comedy

• Matching Vibes:
  • Katie and Katherine bond over accidentally twinning in niche Dressed in Lala clothing (28:50).
• Fox NFL “Taylor Swift” Skit:
  • Katherine played Taylor Swift in a careful, risk-averse Fox sketch ("They call it a skit. It's demeaning!" – Katherine, 31:22).
  • They discuss the specificity of the Taylor Swift fandom, restrictions on using song titles, and tiny details for accuracy:

    “You realize though...I don’t do a lot of character stuff, but I...put on the wig and I tried to look like her.” – Katherine (34:47) “I had a lot...I got to go back and watch your little skit again!” – Katie (35:25)

B. Childhood, Horse Girls, and Kentucky

• Katherine’s Horse Girl Confessions:
  • Admits to pretending to be horses (and “giving birth” to friends) well into grade school because her parents wouldn’t buy lessons (37:05).
  • “My parents were like, you’re the second child. We’re not doing that. You’re a middle child. Absolutely not.” (37:44)
• Experiencing the Derby:
  • Recounts magical Derby memories; horses getting their sunrise baths – “You see them getting their bath, and like all the steam’s coming off their bodies…and you’re just like…” (44:41).
  • The dark side: Horse deaths at races and a pink hearse being banned post-scandal (45:19).
• Steeplechase Racing & Hobby Horses:
  • Both are obsessed with odd competitive events; hobby horse competitions, window-tinting championships, slippery stairs on ESPN get in-depth comedic appreciation (83:20–86:50).

C. College Football, Tailgate Culture & SEC Deep Dives

• Tailgating Culture, SEC Style:
  • Sundress-and-boot ritual, sneaking alcohol in boots, wild tailgate bands ("I saw the Yin Yang Twins!" – Katherine, 60:36).
  • SEC school fanaticism compared to politics and religion—exploring the cult of “Roll Tide” for Alabama fans:

    “Fans use Roll Tide to say congratulations, to say my condolences at a funeral…They go, rest in peace, Roll Tide.” – Katherine (65:15)

  • College head coaches as “senators” for their universities; defending even the infamous Brian Kelly LSU accent switch-up (70:20).
• Sorority Rush TikToks:
  • The over-the-top intensity and privilege on display in SEC sorority rush videos—"I don't know where you get the money to have all of this. ...You're supposed to be broke." (73:30)

D. Sports & Celebrity Gossip

• Bill Belichick’s New Relationship:
  • The crew muses whether Belichick's much-publicized young girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, is an “image play” or just fun—"Now he's in the headlines…Why not keep it going?" (75:55)
  • “You know, he was that go to the Patriots for so long, and he was just this, like, steel Matro boys club. And then all of a sudden…this young, tiny thing, like, making the place for him. I’m like, this is beautiful.” – Katherine (76:48)
• Stone Skipping Victory:
  • A Kentucky man wins the World Stone Skimming Championship in Scotland. Katie: “I love the way he goes, like, ‘You know, I’m the first American to ever do it. Not only that but...I actually set a world [record].’” (80:33)

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5. Fantasy Football & Closing Banter

Timestamps: 91:33 – End

• Isabella’s fantasy team gets a witchy blessing.
  • Bench strategy and waiver wire explained
  • Ongoing quest for a good fantasy team name ("Fuck it, let’s go to Chili’s" is suggested by Brady, 99:33).
• Katie:
  • "You're much cuter than your [fantasy team] name says that you are." (98:58)
• Casuals podcast info, follow instructions, and Katie’s sign-off: “Love you and I mean it.”

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chicken Nugget Dare:

  “You did not have to do what you did. …You front loaded it. Sigh. That’s a rookie mistake.” — Katie Nolan (04:31)

• Gossip Skepticism:

  "Do we live in an era now where you can just say that you challengered the two guys from the US Open and everyone will go, 'whoa'?" — Katie Nolan (11:13)

• Witch Sale Laughter:

  “I love a witch sale and I love a direct to consumer. I don’t have to get this shipped to me. I’m just gonna download it. Perfect.” — Katie (19:00)

• Fashion & Fandom:

  “Anything Tiger people are either like, go Tigers…or they're so mad at you.” — Katherine Blanford (30:03)

• Horse Girls Forever:

  “You had to be a horse. …You had to pretend to be a horse. …There’s something magical about a horse. I've always said…” — Katherine (37:57)

• SEC, Football & Tailgating:

  “College football culture...I wish I could participate in that, but I’m not gonna pretend I did.” — Katie Nolan (55:13)
  “The boots are important because that’s how you snuck in your booze.” — Katherine (57:20)

• Roll Tide in Every Context:

  "Fans use Roll Tide to say congratulations, to say my condolences at a funeral…rest in peace, Roll Tide." — Katherine Blanford (65:15)

• On Belichick’s May-December Romance:

  “You don’t feel gross or sad for her…She’s calling the shots for him, I’m like, hell yeah.” — Katherine (76:48)

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7. Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |---|---| | Fun Open & Chicken Nugget Story | 01:05 – 07:14 | | Tennis Gossip & Brooks Nader | 07:21 – 14:02 | | Mariners, Etsy Witches & Magic | 15:30 – 22:04 | | WNBA & Kellce Wedding Quotes | 22:04 – 23:58 | | Katherine Blanford Interview Start | 28:50 | | “Taylor Swift” Fox Skit | 31:22 – 36:16 | | Horse Girl Stories | 37:05 – 44:45 | | Kentucky Derby & Horse Racing | 44:45 – 47:00 | | SEC Tailgate & Culture Deep Dive | 55:13 – 65:49 | | Roll Tide/SEC Slogans Explained | 65:12 – 66:00 | | Belichick & Jordan Hudson | 74:49 – 78:19 | | Weird Competitions (Stone Skipping, Tintertainment, Hobby Horse) | 79:44 – 86:39 | | Fantasy Football Segment | 91:33 – 98:35 |

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8. Overall Tone & Takeaway

Warm, spirited, and peppered with both self-deprecating asides and genuine affection for sports' oddities, the episode makes sports culture—from baseball curses to esoteric Alabama rivalries—feel like accessible, open terrain. The fantasy football chat and SEC explainers help listeners feel included, while the guest interview with Katherine Blanford brings top-tier comic energy (plus horse girl secrets you will never forget).

Closing Words from Katie:
“Love you and I mean it. See you next week. Enjoy your weekend. Bye.”

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

Hey, Isabella, did you see Cardi B. Is pregnant. Wait, she is? Huh?

[Isabella]

I saw that. She was like, people were speculating because she was on the Jennifer Hudson show and was like, oh, kids, she's actually pregnant. And wait, what team is Stefan Diggs on?

[Katie Nolan]

The Patriots.

[Chris]

Oh, a little Pat's baby.

[Isabella]

I'm not even a Patriots fan.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know why I got so excited. Dress it up like a football.

[Chris]

Is that how you say it?

[Isabella]

Do you say pats?

[Chris]

Or is it pates?

[Isabella]

Because Patriots. You don't say Patriots.

[Katie Nolan]

No, it's. It's Pat. Hello, and welcome to Casuals, the sport sports podcast that loves you so much. That loves you so much. Come here, let it give you a kiss. It's that kind of sports podcast. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. I like sports and so do you. Joined today by my casualties. We got a big guest coming up a little bit later. Catherine Blandford. She's hilarious. So we're gonna try to get most of our dumb stuff out of the way so we can just get into her. But everybody say, hi, Brady. Hello, Chris. Hi, Isabella.

[Isabella]

Just kidding.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi. Go Pates. If you want to reach out to us [e-mail] or voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and tick tock, we are at Casual as the podcast and we're actually going to get into a little bit of the various mailboxes that we have right here at the top of this show. In place of, I mean, I don't know, we're calling it Housekeeping. The top of the show gives me so much anxiety because I'm like, do we go housekeeping into yap? Sometimes there isn't a yap. Sometimes the yap is the voicemails, sometimes the housekeeping is the voicemails. We don't really know. I guess I probably just should just commit to one and go for it. But not yet. So let's start with an email. Brady, you said we got some great emails.

[Chris]

Let's.

[Katie Nolan]

Chris, you want to read one? Let's go with Psy first.

[Brady]

Okay, so Psy says my name is Sigh and I've eaten 82 McDonald's chicken nuggets in two hours on a dare from a co worker. The goal was 100 nuggets in one 12 hour work shift, but I tried to do it as fast as I can, but failed because I ran out of hot mustard sauce and as they got cold, they basically turned into rubber.

[Katie Nolan]

Rubber.

[Brady]

This isn't where my story ends though. The following afternoon, I was at my best friend's grandmother's surprise 80th birthday party in the assisted living facility she lived and puked blood in a trash can in the corner. My wife rushed me to the hospital and as she was checking me in at the error, I passed out. I woke up on my side being wiped down, not knowing what happened. I looked at my wife and she said, you shit yourself. Once I had my wits about me. I told the doctor what happened in regards to the nuggets and also at the same time my wife. I spent three nights in the hospital because of this and my wife banned me from eating chicken nuggets at McDonald's. By the way, this all happened in the spring of 2012. Love the pod and the crew keep killing it. Love you, mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh my God. Love you, mean it. Sigh. That's brutal. Can somebody google when they started doing the thing where they said it was all white meat? What year? That was when they started saying the nuggets are now real meat. And everybody was like, what was it before?

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I know more details, like, were there other foods? I don't want to blame the McNuggets yet.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, this does feel like in case McDonald's wants to sponsor. We gotta say between when psy ate those 82 nuggets in two hours. Which by the way, a little bit of an overachiever. You had 12 full hours to do a hundred. You did not have to do what you did. 12 hours. You could have taken a break in the middle. Not yourself, but a toilet and then gotten back into it. You had time and you shut. You did it all. You front loaded it. Sigh. That's a rookie mistake. Yourself in front of your family is crazy. What were you gonna say, Chris?

[Brady]

It looked like 2003 was when they made the transition to 100%.

[Katie Nolan]

Well then never mind. I don't think we can blame the nuggets here because remember before they did that, when you would get that one round nugget you'd bite into and you'd look at it and go, oh, I don't know what that's about. It would be like a kind of a nice smushy, but it was definitely smushy and you were like, I'm not sure.

[Brady]

As long as you've slopped some sweet and sour sauce on, it doesn't matter.

[Katie Nolan]

You just gloop it right in.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

When I was a little kid, I was particular about. I liked the ones that were shaped like a booty.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, the boots.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

So I would get upset if I didn't get enough boot shapes.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow, that's good. Did they diagnose that or you grew out of it?

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I, I hope I grew out of it.

[Katie Nolan]

I think we all had OCD as kids and. And most grew out. I just, that's. I feel like as a child I used to always do like very. Like if I tap my right foot, I have to tap my left foot. I remember being so scared as a kid and then that's okay. So Psy ate 82 in two hours. And Chris, to be clear again, just to remind the people, you said that.

[Brady]

You could do what, 275 within a baseball game?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I don't think so. 275 is so much.

[Brady]

I may end up vomiting blood and pooping yourself. Shitting.

[Katie Nolan]

Just getting your. Having to get waking up, being wiped down.

[Brady]

Incredible. I will say though, Simon makes a good point in the sense that you have to make sure that you're getting fresh nuggets as you progress. You don't want to just start off with a batch of 275 and they're the only 275 you're working with.

[Katie Nolan]

Why would you ever do that?

[Brady]

I don't know. You have to, you know, start off.

[Isabella]

With 20, get a 20 piece finish.

[Katie Nolan]

I also want to know?

[Chris]

Sigh.

[Katie Nolan]

12 hour work shift. Dared by your co worker to eat a hundred nuggets in. In 12 hours. Where was it? At McDonald's. Where did you work?

[Unknown Casuals Member]

It's an ER nurse.

[Katie Nolan]

That'll be convenient. Thank you for writing in. Sigh. I don't. Good thing you didn't say your last name. I feel like that's one of those, like keep it a little anonymous. I pooped myself. I pooped in my pants.

[Isabella]

All good.

[Katie Nolan]

Sigh. Let's do a voicemail now. Do we have a voicemail?

[Brady]

We surely do. Let's have a listen.

[Isabella]

Va, va, va va. Voicemail.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, Katie.

[Chris]

And the casualties. This is Sharon from Portland, Oregon.

[Katie Nolan]

I have a. Did you see that?

[Chris]

Yes, that was terrible. Sorry.

[Katie Nolan]

Which is a little.

[Chris]

A little different than what you asked.

[Katie Nolan]

For, but did you see that Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Brooks Nader was apparently dating both Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner during the US Open? I don't know about you, but as a casual fan of most sports, that's the kind of stuff I love to know. So I just wanted to make sure that you all were up on the celebrity gossip slash sports slash relationship chaos slash plot of a movie that Zendaya was there.

[Chris]

Anyway, hope you all are having a.

[Katie Nolan]

Good week because I love you and I mean it.

[Chris]

Bye, Sharon.

[Katie Nolan]

I love you and I mean it. I did see this. I have to walk you guys through. I gotta. I have to approach this honestly. What the stages I went through when I saw this story. So the first one was I. I keep hearing this name, Brooks Nader, and I don't. I. She doesn't pop up in my algorithm. So I didn't know who was. I. I did my research. 2020 to 2022, she was an SI swimsuit model. She was actually. They found her in that. Like, remember when they. I don't think they still do this, but they used to do that, like swim search. I think that's how we found Camille Costek as well. But she like won that. And then in 2023, she was the COVID I don't have to tell you boys. I'm sure you know that she was the COVID of the swimsuit edition. And then she was on season 33 of Dancing with the Stars in 2024, she came in ninth place and she was married in 2019 and divorced in 2025. So she's coming off of a divorce. She's 28 years old. She's a influencer model. There was the theory that she was dating the guy that she Did Dancing with the Stars with. She was partnered with Gleb.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Everyone has that theory.

[Katie Nolan]

Right? I know, and that's kind of how I feel about this story as well. I don't want to ruin Sharon's day, but I saw this girl and her sisters doing a bunch of interviews, talking about who she was dating, and people were guessing that it was Alcaraz, and then they were guessing that it was Sinner, and then it was like, maybe it was both. And they. I guess they have a reality show. Isabella, do you know any of this?

[Isabella]

No.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm sorry. That's okay. I was sort of hoping that you'd.

[Isabella]

I was looking Brooks.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. I love her.

[Isabella]

I was looking up her name. I didn't realize her name was Brooks Nader. I thought it was Brooks Nader. I got it wrong this whole time.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I'm going to go Google whether or not she's related to Ralph. If you don't hear from me, that.

[Katie Nolan]

Probably means, no, it couldn't be. But there. What I did see is that her and her sisters have a reality show, and there's like four of them, and they all have two names. They're all like, Mary Holland Nader and Sarah Jane Nader and Grace Ann Nader. And on the show, when they're talking to each other, they always use the two name. I don't know if this is just one of those things that's funny to me where they'd be like, ugh, Mary Holland, Sarah Jane. And then she's just Katherine.

[Chris]

Beth.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

That's your middle name.

[Katie Nolan]

It is, but people don't need to know. Oh, sorry. No, it's okay. I just don't like Beth as a middle name. It's not my favorite popular, though. It's okay. So on 9, 10. On September 10, her sister Grace Ann broke news that she was dating Alcaraz, who had won at that point a sort. Before that, a source had told Page Six that Nader was dating both Alcaraz and Sinner. But then I saw this, and again, this isn't to ruin your day, Sharon, but Alberto Guzman, who is a trusted Spanish journalist who's close to Alcaraz, said they are not a couple. It is not an official relationship. So, look, what I don't know is, do we live in an era now where you can just say that you challengered the two guys from the US Open and everyone will go, whoa.

[Chris]

Or did.

[Katie Nolan]

Do we get to have any proof that this. It's an interesting story. I'm fascinated by it. She's a Beautiful woman. I just am they. I'm cautious when they haven't said anything about it. Now, not that I think Yannick Sinner would come out and be like, yeah, I had a threesome with that girl and Carlos Alcaraz. I don't think. I don't know that he would say that. But it is funny that the sources on this are all of her sisters and her kind of. She's being very coy about it, and they're promoting a reality show. I just get a little.

[Isabella]

Are there headlines on this?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, a bunch.

[Isabella]

Like, specifically with. I heard her and Alcaraz, but specifically her Alcaraz and Page Six.

[Katie Nolan]

Page Six said the thing about her and Sinner. Okay, this is Page Six one day ago. And that's exclusive. Brooks Nader's sisters. That's too many S's. Brooks Nader's sisters think she should play tennis after dating both Alcaraz and Yannick Sinner.

[Isabella]

And this is at the same time.

[Katie Nolan]

Again, Isabella, we don't really know. I just think it was, like, kind of reported in the way things are now. Someone said it on a podcast, Someone said it on a radio show. And then the world was like, damn, she did a challengers. And then instead of anybody ever confirming, we all just went like, how crazy would it be to do a Challengers. Yeah. And then that was kind of. Did you see challengers?

[Isabella]

No, I didn't.

[Katie Nolan]

Did you, Chris?

[Brady]

Yeah, I liked challenges. You haven't seen it yet, Isabella. I thought that would have been right in your wheelhouse.

[Katie Nolan]

I know you love when two boys kiss a girl.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And also each other. Oh, and then also tennis.

[Isabella]

Oh, yeah, that thing.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

This is just a state of tennis journalism. Like, if this happens in the NFL, Schefter's all over it. We have no tennis Schefter. And it's allowing a lot of bullshit.

[Katie Nolan]

So true.

[Chris]

Who's that?

[Katie Nolan]

Adam Schefter. He's the insider. The NFL insider. That's like the biggest. He's the guy that, whenever it's like, the NFL season, he knows all the tea. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. I don't know. Pablo Torre's kind of poking a hole in every insider's insideness. I don't know if anyone else is keeping up with that story. It just is. He keeps being like, keep up with.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Concurrent Pablo stories, and he's got a lot.

[Katie Nolan]

He's finding out. He's finding out, and he's letting people know.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I just caught up with Alonzo Hamburger. Like, I can't move on to Hamburger. Pablo story that fast.

[Katie Nolan]

Her sisters have revealed the Sports Illustrated alum had a little roster of suitors, which, look, I don't doubt. Like I said, she's a beautiful woman. Grace. And dropped a clue about her sister's bow, saying his name rhymes with winner, which is crazy. A source then revealed to us she was playing romance doubles with Sinner and Alcaraz. I don't know.

[Isabella]

I don't care enough.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know what's going on. I wish I could just go, like, this is fun. Let's talk about it for how fun it is. But I was like, can we get either of them on the record saying that they even know this woman? I don't. You could just go out and say you're dating somebody and everyone goes, whoa.

[Isabella]

Also, there were just, like, dating rumors.

[Katie Nolan]

About Alcaraz with Emma Raducanu. Right. A cutie pie herself.

[Isabella]

I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, while we're talking tennis, I do have to say it's not great, but I was raving about Taylor Townsend and how much I love her and stood up for it. Did you see the news yesterday? No. Wasn't great. She went on her IG story. Why? I don't know. But she's in China, and she was being very ignorant about the culture of the place where she was visiting. She has since apologized. Yeah. She came out and said she was sorry that she was. It was a mistake. She didn't mean to, but it was such a bummer. I want to see it.

[Isabella]

I gotta check it out.

[Katie Nolan]

Just for. Just. Given the context of how she kind of emerged into the. You could say the national conversation should have been addressing Taylor Townsend a while ago. That she's so talented. Yeah. But she had just kind of broke out in this moment and. And I had loved the way she handled herself and the way that she competed. And then to have her kind of just go do something ignorant in another country was like, come on, Taylor. It was a real bummer. But she did apologize. And hopefully we'll see a moment of growth from her on that. Let's do another email. Do we have one from Kevin?

[Brady]

We do.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's hear it. Read it to me now.

[Brady]

Hi, Katie and the Casualties. I'm a longtime Die Hard EMS fan, and I'm surprised this very casual story hasn't come up yet on the show, given the show's decidedly pro Mariners stance. On September 6, when the M's were reeling on a disaster of a road trip, a local fan purchased a spell from a witch on Etsy. The M's went on to beat the Braves 102 and a 100 since then. It's true that this has come against bad teams, but their run differential is 78, 28 in the stretch and they have taken over first place in the eight. There's also something about mustaches that I don't understand. But anyway, I thought you'd enjoy another weird, fun chapter in Ms.

[Katie Nolan]

Tea time. Tea time. What? There is also something about mustaches that I don't understand.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I mean, the Mariners have grown a lot of mustaches.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

A lot of them are rocking mustaches.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, same. What does that mean?

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I don't know what there is to not understand.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Do they only start growing them or have they grown quicker at a quicker rate?

[Katie Nolan]

Since the weird thing to know? What?

[Isabella]

Everyone needs a mustache.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's zoom in on the point of the email. Right. So on September 6, a fan purchased a spell. Witches. Etsy witches are having a year.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I love that the coven has gone capitalist.

[Katie Nolan]

Etsy witches are making a killing. I think we might have talked about it on fan service. I'm curious to know, kind of similar to the Brooks Nader thing, how much proof do you have to show before you get to list yourself as a witch on Etsy? You know, it's like you can't open up a crochet shop on Etsy. You don't have crocheted products. So it's like, how do you even get to show Etsy that you're able.

[Isabella]

To be intimidate yourself? You have to just believe that they.

[Katie Nolan]

Know what they're wild, which is un.

[Brady]

Just have a black hat. Anyone? Anyone with a pointy black hat is a witch.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, sure.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

So when we roll out merch, do we roll out curses as well? I mean, or am I just over capitalizing?

[Isabella]

Are we gonna. Are we gonna submit a spell?

[Katie Nolan]

Isabella, can you be a witch?

[Isabella]

Yeah, I believe I am one.

[Katie Nolan]

I think so too.

[Chris]

And I mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

I want to be clear. I mean it as a compliment.

[Chris]

Yes. You.

[Katie Nolan]

You were a witch.

[Isabella]

I am witch laughter.

[Brady]

Isabella. Let's hear it.

[Isabella]

A witch laughter.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, try it.

[Isabella]

Me.

[Katie Nolan]

Quick take.

[Isabella]

Hold on, wait.

[Brady]

That was legit. Good.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I liked it. Yeah, I was expecting more of like a. But I like the. I like.

[Chris]

Hahaha.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. All right. Etsy witches. How much can you. Can somebody. How much the going rate for a spell from an Etsy witch is. Are we talking hundreds? Are we talking 10?

[Unknown Casuals Member]

So let's. It may determine the target. Let's say if you like, say you and Aaron Boon, like how much are you willing to pay for this?

[Katie Nolan]

As I look this, me and Aaron Boon.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

If you are cursing the Yankees, how.

[Katie Nolan]

Much would I be willing to pay a witch to curse the Yankees? Oh wow.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

This is extremely cheap.

[Brady]

How much? Some of the, like a few dollars.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. But you got, you get what you pay for, right? It's like gas station sushi.

[Brady]

We should probably get up to hundreds of dollars for blood magic spells.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Says extreme bad luck curse, karmic revenge, photo proof. It is currently 50% off and there's an option for digital download.

[Katie Nolan]

I love a witch sale. I love a witch sale and I love a direct to consumer. I don't have to get this shipped to me. I'm just gonna download it. Perfect.

[Isabella]

I only want to buy a spell when there's a discount clearance.

[Brady]

Don't need to get rid of it for full price. I'm in the mood of just giving away bad juju for free.

[Katie Nolan]

Wild. You think an Etsy witch just sits there all day and like opens her email and is like, well, time to hate the chick fil A on 52nd because they.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Because they're. This one's just hex my ex. Curse your ex lover for $28.80.

[Katie Nolan]

What a steal. What a steal.

[Isabella]

What do you get? Do you think you get like a.

[Katie Nolan]

Receipt of like there has to be something? I don't think they can charge you and give you nothing.

[Isabella]

Do you think that the charge actually processes though if it doesn't come true? Like what happens if, like, I mean.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

If I work for Visa, I'm looking at this and saying, hell no.

[Brady]

Well, do they give you the recipe for the spell?

[Katie Nolan]

I think they do the spell. You know what they must do? They must like record themselves doing it and then send it to you to show that they did it. That's very cool.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I think they're going to give you the recipe for it. Like they're shipping it to you.

[Katie Nolan]

The eye of a newt.

[Chris]

They're like a mouse is head dry ice.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, Chris, you got the mouse's head all set actually. And I can grab an eye of the newt over at foods. We'll cook up a spell and get the socks to the top hair.

[Isabella]

I could cut off a piece and.

[Chris]

Send it to you.

[Katie Nolan]

We should also mention while we're talking about the Mariners, that big dumper homered twice in the win over the Royals on Tuesday. Sorry to Vinnie. Sorry to our friend Vinnie set the record for home runs in a season by a switch hitter. 50 with 56 he is tied with Ken Griffey Jr. Right, as the for the most home runs in a season by a Mariner. Also in that game. No one's really talking about this. Dom Canzone, a guy who entered the game, I think, with seven home runs on the season, hit three of them, hit three home runs last night. He went 5 for 5 with three home runs. That's sick. They lead the Astros by half a game in the AL west with 11 games to go. The Mariners do. The Astros, I think, are also half a game out of the wild card. Just get out of here. Go. Scram.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Nobody wants a team that you're kind of like. You're like, okay, they're fine. But then they are locked up with a team you hate, and suddenly you're just gas pedal to the floor on the Mariners.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I love the Mariners. I love Mariners fans. I think they deserve it. I also. We've talked about this before, but it's just funny seeing Cal Raleigh at the plate and then he leaves and Julio Rodriguez steps up to the plate and you're like, that's a bigger dumper. I like right away, dude. I'm like, that's. That dumper's bigger.

[Isabella]

Hold on. I was having like these moments a few times where I was watching like a Met game or something, and I'll be like, I'll watch with my boyfriend. I'm like, that guy's butt definitely looks bigger than Cal Rawley's. And in my head I'm like, why.

[Katie Nolan]

Does he get the title? That's right. It's not like he's the only person.

[Isabella]

With a big butt. Like, sorry. I just was like, kind of like, yeah, that's okay.

[Katie Nolan]

We should probably get out of here. We. They announced the WNBA awards. I think we should probably say those. Paige Becker's won rookie of the year. Did you see Isabella? It was at the end of the Jennifer Hudson spirit tunnel.

[Isabella]

Sorry, say that again.

[Katie Nolan]

You know, the. The way that. Sorry. It was a lot. Jennifer Hudson, you know, she has the show.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

People come down the tunnel and they dance. At the end of the tunnel was where they gave Paige Beckers her Rookie of the year award. It was like, revealed to her then that, like, she won. Isn't that cute?

[Isabella]

I like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Asia Wilson got on Victory.

[Chris]

Oh, that's.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Spirit tunnel is one of my greatest fears in the world. Like, I know there's no chance of me ever being a part of that tunnel, but I look at it, I'm like, Brady Gardner.

[Chris]

I would have so much Fun Brady Gardner.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

No, I was just like can I just walk in a straight line?

[Katie Nolan]

Well that's not. Feels like stealing Chris's valor because I know Chris would shrivel up in that tunnel.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Chris would lock.

[Katie Nolan]

Chris would pee his pants all in my face. Who was it that we talked about that went on a show and said like please don't make me do that tunnel that I think they went on her show and he asked to not be. It was whoever's the star of the. The. The Pit. So he. That's you, Chris. You wouldn't walk down that tunnel at all.

[Brady]

Absolutely not.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't wait to. For there to be a reason for me to get Chris dancing. I can't wait until some sort of a casuals party and I get to go like music's on. Chris is dancing. I can't wait.

[Isabella]

I look forward to it at your wedding.

[Brady]

That's what I'm saying.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh fuck. I gotta fucking plan that thing. Do you see? Travis Kelce said that it's easier to plan a wedding than it is to catch a. I believe his words were. I don't wanna. He's a wordsmith. A fucking goddamn. It's easier than catching a goddamn football. Let me get the quote for you.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

I mean I've planned a wedding.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

If I could catch a fucking goddamn football.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean catching a football isn't the hard part of football. Wedding planning will be easy compared to trying to figure out how to fucking catch a goddamn football. He said with a laugh.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Shakespeare.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I don't know if that's true.

[Isabella]

Then be a wedding planner.

[Katie Nolan]

Then get then monetized.

[Brady]

Let's see how he feels off Travis.

[Katie Nolan]

Kelsey, help me plan my wedding.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

If it's so easy. No, you don't think.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Do you want that?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know.

[Brady]

We'll be fine.

[Katie Nolan]

I'll pay an Etsy witch to plan my wedding.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Guy who dressed like AC DC walking into an NFL game on Monday.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

Katherine Blandford's here. I'm so excited to meet you. I love you. I my the only bone I have to pick with you is I feel like the little. The little niche clothing store I found where I bought all my cute stuff. You're the only other person who also uses it. I'll just see you doing a clip and I'm like, damn it, I almost bought those pants.

[Chris]

Is it dressed in lala?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. And you make it look so cool and good. And when I wear it, I always walk into the room and go, sorry, is this weird?

[Chris]

It is that clothing. There is some stuff that I'm like, it's like, whoa. Yeah, I wouldn't even wear it.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't go that far.

[Chris]

But I tag them at everything. I keep trying to get free stuff, and nothing yet. He don't need it.

[Katie Nolan]

Rude. That's rude.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

So cute. I bought the green tiger pants that you have. I got that in a dress just. Cause I was like, maybe this is my vibe. And I said that to my fiance. I walked into the room and I said, okay, before I come in, this isn't me right now, but maybe this is the vibe I should aspire to. And I walked in, and he burst out laughing to the point where I almost kept it out of spite.

[Chris]

No, no, no. You keep it because you go, here's my extreme. If you even get remotely used to this, Anything.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

Less extreme than this, I'll.

[Katie Nolan]

I'll get away with.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know what? I never realized? I wear those Tiger pants all the time. Anything. Tiger people are either like, go Tigers. You know, like whatever their tiger mascot is so many times, or they're so mad at you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Because I went to South Carolina Gamecock rivals Clemson Tigers.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Chris]

And so I have, you know, friends that all went. I went to school with, and I didn't even put it together because they're. They're fashion Tigers.

[Katie Nolan]

There's also, like, three or four Tigers in the sec.

[Chris]

There's so much.

[Katie Nolan]

There could really be any.

[Chris]

Tigers are.

[Katie Nolan]

They're everywhere. Everybody calls their team the Tigers.

[Chris]

I think every county's got a Tiger.

[Katie Nolan]

They got to turn that down. They got to stop letting people all call themselves. We're down the Tigers.

[Chris]

Tigers are maximized.

[Katie Nolan]

We have too many Tigers.

[Chris]

Too many cats.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Wild cats and tigers. And surely there's another Cougars.

[Chris]

Lot of cougars.

[Katie Nolan]

And bears are cats, huh? Are Panthers cats? Panthers are cats, right?

[Chris]

They are.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

They're not, but they are, I think, a bear.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. We're cute, though. We're very cute. I have so many things I want to talk to you about. Number one, we have to start with this weekend. You played Taylor Swift in the Fox. Little comedy thing they do on their football thing.

[Chris]

You know what's so annoying? I appreciate them. They. But on the breakdown on the script, everything. They call it a skit. And I'm like, stop calling it a skit. It's so demeaning. You wrote this. This is your thing. Call it a sketch now. What?

[Katie Nolan]

Explain to the layman who don't know the difference between a skit and a sketch.

[Chris]

A skit is like, what your grandma says when she doesn't understand what you're doing.

[Katie Nolan]

I love your little skits.

[Chris]

We could do a skit for us.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, put on your little recital.

[Chris]

Do that. Yeah. You wouldn't call an artist painting a doodle.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And that's the equivalent of calling a sketch a skit. It's a sketch. Yeah. And they did not take this note. They just kept calling it a skit. I assume.

[Chris]

They didn't take any of my notes.

[Katie Nolan]

What was it like getting into character as Taylor Swift?

[Chris]

It was. Oh, it was so fun. I. I had three outfit changes, and all the other dudes were just chiefs players and, you know, just the full gear.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And so I took so much more time, like, in between takes or any, you know, in between different scenes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

To get dressed. So it was fun to be the diva.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Did they give you an engagement ring?

[Chris]

It was like a. It was like, you know. Okay. Because they're so careful. Fox is so careful that they don't want to offend the royal family. So they. They have this little, like. They gave me like, a. A. A fake one that was, like, in the shape of a harp heart. That was so not obviously her ring, because they didn't want to make it look like her ring but be too big or too small. Because then Swifties would be mad because they'd be like, that's not what her ring looks like.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. She might as well get it way wrong.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So they're very careful.

[Katie Nolan]

Interesting. That's always the most. I find the easiest place to find comedy is in places where everybody's feeling very careful.

[Chris]

Very careful.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, stumble right into jokes.

[Chris]

Anything that was Taylor Swift lure. That wasn't, like, even, like. Like, I'd be like. If we were improvising and I used a song lyric or a song title, they're like, like, no.

[Katie Nolan]

They do that every week on the broadcast for the games. It's so silly.

[Chris]

They can't use song titles.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh. Okay.

[Chris]

They can it only, like, so her song is named are you ready for it? Or ready for it or something. So they had me go, coach, I'm ready for it. They have to, like, skew it a little bit, but you can't be obvious on the nose. It's. It's the, like, smp, sanity practices, whatever of it all is suffocating. I'm like, I didn't even. Why are you even doing skits?

[Katie Nolan]

These little skits. We do these little skits.

[Chris]

Skip your little skit. But they were very particular about, like, the director, the guy playing Mahomes, he was like, I think his mustache is a little bit thinner now. Should we make his mustache thinner?

[Katie Nolan]

And did they. They fly in somebody with a razor to trim it up? One of those razors I use on my face.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah. But then, but then Brett Gelman played Travis Kelce.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Which is exactly what he looks like. They look exactly the same. Didn't have to fly anybody in for that at all. He looks just like him.

[Chris]

No, they're dead ringer. We gotta find a guy between 20 and 65 years old to play Travis Kelsey.

[Katie Nolan]

We got him. Yeah, here he is.

[Chris]

You realize though, like, I. I don't do a lot of character stuff, but I, you know, I put on the wig and I tried to look like her.

[Katie Nolan]

You did.

[Chris]

I kept doing. This was the one thing I was like, here's my character choice. This is when I'm gonna choose to play Taylor. Have you noticed she does this whenever she dances? She has this like this thing with her.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Chris]

This thing with her hands even like shake it off. Or like when she was on her ERAS tour. It's like this. What is that?

[Katie Nolan]

They're like dance hands almost.

[Chris]

It's dancy. It's kind of like a fairy. Like almost I'm relaxing my hands from casting a stone.

[Katie Nolan]

If my hands were falling out of a plane gently to the ground. Yeah, that's it.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

[Katie Nolan]

And so you did that.

[Chris]

I had a lot.

[Katie Nolan]

I got to go back and watch your little skit again. Cuz I didn't even notice.

[Chris]

They cut a lot of me. That's actually, I don't. At one point he told me to put my hands down.

[Katie Nolan]

You're just putting them up in the shot and you just keep going. But see the little. Notice how I've.

[Chris]

I'm going. I'm going. That's Taylor's version. And he's like, can we do it.

[Katie Nolan]

Again without the hands?

[Chris]

Yeah, you put them behind you.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, maybe you could chop your hands off so we could get a normal take.

[Chris]

And I'm going, that's Taylor's version. It was cool. She. It was a lot of this was wild. Like I had like a jersey dress on at one point. And I mean down to here.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know, and they were like.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, like mid.

[Chris]

Mid thigh. And they were like nervous that that was too much skin.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, my God.

[Chris]

For Sunday Fox NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh my God. I mean, did you see the cheerleaders? What are we talking about?

[Chris]

I know. I'm like, I wouldn't even that would I? Would I Never would have thought it. The little.

[Katie Nolan]

As long as it's past my fingertips. That's what I learned in school. And then you shrug your shoulders up a little so that nobody notices, and you go, look, it's past my fingertips.

[Chris]

Would you have to bend? Would you have to kneel?

[Katie Nolan]

No. What's that?

[Chris]

We would. All girls Catholic High school.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, all girls Catholic high school. And you're gonna say you wore a short skirt and they made you kneel. I don't love where this is going.

[Chris]

So you kneeled. So then it was like. That's the start of Your knee was at the floor.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And then you had to bend. And they would take an index. The index card, and they'd put it on the floor there.

[Katie Nolan]

It seems like you might have been getting in trouble for this a bunch.

[Chris]

I didn't. Oh, I was disgusting.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I. I didn't get why. What am I wearing a short skirt for? Who am I wearing a short skirt for? My Spanish teacher, probably.

[Katie Nolan]

Honestly. Probably.

[Chris]

Yeah. I didn't care if I got a ketchup stand on my shirt Monday. It was there on Friday.

[Katie Nolan]

Sick. I love that. Yeah, I love that about you. Speaking of the way that you were in high school. Horse girl.

[Chris]

Now I have a. I have a clarification.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. So you. Are you gonna tell me you weren't one of the girls that pretended they were a horse?

[Chris]

No, I was that girl.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank God.

[Chris]

Because my parents didn't want to, like, pay for the horseback riding lessons.

[Katie Nolan]

Of course. Very expensive.

[Chris]

So expensive. I had friends that had horses. So, you know, you go to their barns.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But my parents were like, we're not. We're not doing that. Like, horse girl girls are equivalent to pageant girls. Like, those parents have to be involved.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You know?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And my parents were like, you're the second child. We're not doing that. You're a middle child. Absolutely not. So.

[Katie Nolan]

So you. The other option. Yeah.

[Chris]

You had to be a horse.

[Katie Nolan]

You had to pretend to be a horse.

[Chris]

You had to ride and you rode your friends.

[Katie Nolan]

This was through.

[Chris]

Keep it in. Keep it in.

[Katie Nolan]

This was through. How old. When did you start horse girling and it. When did you grow out of it?

[Chris]

It was way too old.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

I probably started young. Kindergarten.

[Katie Nolan]

Kindergarten.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Chris]

There's something magical about a horse. I've always said there's something that is so alluring about the horses. And I have a theory.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, let's hear it.

[Chris]

It's her. Horses are herd animals. And this is. You can look this up. They. In a Herd. They can. And elephants do this, too. They can, like, sense each other's heartbeats. Elephants can sense it through the ground, their pads, on their feet. And when one horse in the herd senses danger and their heartbeat's elevated, the other horses can sense it, and so then they are alerted to danger. That's why they do a lot of equestrian therapy, because horses, like, if a horse is calm and so like a. You know, they've, like, put children on horses to ride them. It's like a soothing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Therapeutic thing.

[Katie Nolan]

They're very connected to something. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

They've got good energy and spirit.

[Chris]

Imagine being around a thoroughbred.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And so you're in kindergarten.

[Chris]

I'm in kindergarten. We. I was. I was. I was around horses in Louisville all the time in Lexington.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Chris]

A lot of my cousins had farms, but they had that. They had farm horses, which were just, you know, you rode those bare back. Oh, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And they were, like, not beautiful.

[Chris]

They were. They were beautiful in the. In a wilderness sense.

[Katie Nolan]

In their own way. They were wild beautiful.

[Chris]

Yes, exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

And. But I wasn't around them, so I. You know, listen, maybe your friend's hair was their bridal.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

And you'd hold it, and if you wanted to turn left, you'd pull their left hair or their right hair. And sometimes it got. You know, you had to be committed to the bit. Like, you couldn't just have a baby horse.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You would have to give your friend a piggyback ride. And then you would. You'd ride around.

[Katie Nolan]

Yep.

[Chris]

And then you'd be like, we made a baby.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh.

[Chris]

And then somebody else would be the baby horse.

[Katie Nolan]

And then somebody else would be the baby horse and would crawl out of your legs.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And then are you maintaining that family dynamic till the end of recess that day? And then the next day, new start. Somebody else might be giving birth to a different baby.

[Chris]

Sure. And you never wanted to be the owner, but there always had to be one human, because the parking stall, you know, the parking lots, like a parking spot was your stall.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

You had.

[Katie Nolan]

Are. You had. This is recess. You had recess in a parking lot.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. All right.

[Chris]

And you know, you couldn't get out of your stall unless your human let you out.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Of course.

[Chris]

And listen, sometimes there was biting, sometimes there was bucking.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

But that's nature.

[Katie Nolan]

That's. Those are horses, baby. That is a brace. You want to get in the horse game, you're going to get nibbled on.

[Chris]

You got to accept it. And your horse names were always like, Lightning. Misty. Starlight.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, Misty.

[Chris]

Misty.

[Katie Nolan]

I feel like I wrote. I feel like I read a book about a horse named Misty. Horses featured heavily in, like, youth lit for our.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah. There was, like, a whole series that I was obsessed with.

[Katie Nolan]

A lot of horses in books.

[Chris]

A lot of horses in books. And when you're not around horses, it's very. It's mystical. It's beautiful. Once you get around horses, you're like, these are disgusting creatures.

[Katie Nolan]

This mountain horrendous. Why is it breathing like that?

[Chris]

And it's not casual with the horse dumps.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah. They sort of just lift up the tail and go for it.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

In a big pile.

[Chris]

Huge piles. And you're like, this pile could feed. Could feed a raccoon family for a year now.

[Katie Nolan]

How were the horse girls handling that aspect of things at recess? Were you dropping huge dumps in your parking space?

[Chris]

Most of us weren't actually around a lot of horses, so we didn't.

[Katie Nolan]

It was more mystical. Magical horse.

[Chris]

Yeah. That wasn't a reality for us.

[Katie Nolan]

Good. Yeah, that's good. Cause also, the birth scene would have been a lot more graphic, I think.

[Chris]

Right. We didn't know about the dropping. You know how they just kind of drop to the ground.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And then they're kind of in that sack for a little bit, and then they finally break out of the sack and they're all toothpick legs. They're trying to get up.

[Katie Nolan]

None of that. None of that in your. In your recess. But you do still love horses.

[Chris]

I love horses now. I've been. I. You know, I did grow up going to the track. I went to Churchill a lot.

[Katie Nolan]

A lot. Like, how old were you, would you say, the first time you went?

[Chris]

I would go when I was younger, but I think my memories, my favorite memories were probably, like, third or second grade. My parents would. The. The two weeks leading up to Derby. It's called. It's the Derby Festival.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

And one of my favorite. And there's. So there's always. Every day, there's a ton of stuff going on. All these different events in Louisville, but there's a thing called dawn at the Downs. So they open Churchill Downs really, really early.

[Katie Nolan]

Cool.

[Chris]

During sunrise. And my parents would pull us out of school a few mornings during those weeks, and we'd go to Churchill. And my very good friends, family friends, they were the landscapers at Churchill. So we sick. Got some. You know, we could go back to the backside a ton. And you would go, sun rising, and you would watch the horses warming up. The trainers would be out on the track, and then you'd go to the backside, and the horses be getting their bath and all these stalls and these horses are. I mean, they are the VIPs of horses. You know, they're. This is glamour. And it was. It's my favorite part of Derby time. Cause you just, like, see them getting their bass and they're. And, like, all the steam's coming off their bodies, and you're just like. You know, you're watching them, like, train and warm up, and it's. It's so pretty. It's my favorite.

[Katie Nolan]

And I believe you. It's so funny hearing you talk about it. It sounds like Donald Trump talking about being at a beauty pageant.

[Chris]

You see them getting their baths, and.

[Katie Nolan]

They let me go in the back, and I just watch them, the steam coming off their bodies.

[Chris]

I know. And they're treated so nice. We treat our girls nice while they're competing. Once they retire, you can kick rocks.

[Katie Nolan]

Were you ever. Have you ever, like, been at the track as a young girl and seen the, like, a horse get, you know, shot on the track?

[Chris]

I never have, have I? No, I don't think I have. Or sometimes they're very casual. Like, they're, like, real. Like, they. They, like. They don't draw.

[Katie Nolan]

They're in and they're out. They're like, that horse is dead. Please don't ask. Follow ups. We.

[Chris]

I did. I went this. This year. I went to Derby. I had a friend who had a horse in the Derby.

[Katie Nolan]

That's cool.

[Chris]

But it was scratched, like, two days before. And I was like, did you kill your horse? Yeah. I was like, why? Was it scratch? But they were nice. They were. They were being cautious because the horse had a crack in his hoof.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh.

[Chris]

And they couldn't. Could have ran.

[Katie Nolan]

But they didn't.

[Chris]

But they didn't because they didn't want the horse to get hurt. Imagine two derbies ago. Did you remember that Derby when they were all passing and, you know, Liquid Death people, you know, they sponsor all these comics or whatever. I have friends who are salespeople for Liquid Death. And they bring this hearse into the Enfield every year, this pink hearse. And the year after all those horses died, my friend was like, the Derby requested us not to bring the hearse.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Probably the right move.

[Chris]

It's a. It's a very. I. I love horse racing. My favorite track is in Lexington, Kentucky, called Keeneland. Yeah, it's, like, less commercial. It's very flat, and you can just see the rolling Horse parks on the outskirts of it, and it's. It's. It's really cool. It looks like you're, like, at a frat house, but it's very. It's a dark industry.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. It's like one of those ones where you, like, zoom in a little and go, like, I'm gonna zoom back out. I think y. To look into this, probably.

[Chris]

You know what I'm obsessed with is steeplechase racing.

[Katie Nolan]

That's the one where there's, like, water, and I feel like. Am I nuts? Do humans do that, too? I feel like there's a. In the Olympics, humans do the thing where they run and they jump over the thing and they land in the water.

[Chris]

Theirs is on a track. This would be called turf. It's on grass.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh.

[Chris]

But, yeah, they do. They have, like, the little pool and the jumps and everything. Yeah, I would.

[Katie Nolan]

It's an obstacle course.

[Chris]

Run it after the horses were done.

[Katie Nolan]

Fun. That's really fun. I wasn't a horse girl, but my friend. I had a friend growing up who was a horse girl.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And we used to make her dog do, like, horse tricks. Like, horse show tricks.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

We would, like, set up bars and be like, jump over it. And the dog was like, I hate this.

[Chris]

And you'd pull him with the leash, so it would be like, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The dog was like, please, can I just have treats? This is a nightmare.

[Chris]

You're like, why does Rusty have arthritis at such a young age?

[Katie Nolan]

He just wants to lay down all the time. I don't. Is it because we worked him too hard for literally no reason?

[Chris]

For our skit?

[Katie Nolan]

A thing that comes up a lot here and that I'm realizing because you told me is I was wrong. Is that Livy Dunn at the Derby doing the riders up. People online were very mean to her. But you've corrected the record. It was not at the Derby.

[Chris]

No. Because I was there, and it was Simone Biles that did the riders up for the Derby.

[Katie Nolan]

So this was at the what, Oaks? The Oaks.

[Chris]

We got. It's five days of racing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Debris week.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And this was one of those days.

[Chris]

Oaks is the day before Derby. That's when the Phillies run for the lilies. That's the girl race.

[Katie Nolan]

Girly racing.

[Chris]

And they get a blanket. The winner gets a blanket, and it's Lily's pretty. Derby is all boy. I mean, typically, it's all boy horses, 3 year olds, and then they get the blanket of roses.

[Katie Nolan]

That's a very real tree. So just be careful what you do with your Hands. Okay. It's just very real.

[Chris]

Oh, my God. Look at all this natural light in here.

[Katie Nolan]

The windows are open. Do you want to see? Do we have the video of riders up? Can we show Kathy?

[Chris]

Yeah. Why are they making fun of her?

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, it's two words, but I think, you know, is this like the.

[Chris]

Fergie national anthem of Writers up.

[Katie Nolan]

A little bit.

[Chris]

Kentucky Oaks fans, now for the annual tradition we have all been looking forward to.

[Katie Nolan]

Riders up.

[Chris]

It was so anti climatic.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it was. I think the main criticism was the looking down for the two words.

[Chris]

Oh, she. She was like.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, she. She got the Kentucky Oaks fans.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Now it's time for. She nailed that. And then you see her look down and go, writers up.

[Chris]

That would be like. It'd be like counting down to action. You'd be like, three, two, one, action.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You're like, okay, I did. Did she. Did she say go? I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

So it was a. That's. People were. But of course, the Internet people were like, so mean about it that I was like, I mean, it wasn't even the derby. She was specifically talking to Kentucky Oaks fans. She said it herself.

[Chris]

Yeah. She wore pink, which is the Oaks color. Everybody wears pinks. Everybody wears pink on Oaks. I mean, I just am happy that I. I now know that she won't beat me out of any role that I'm auditioning for.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, oh, she can't act.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

So that's actually I'm fine with.

[Chris]

Right. Like, have you ever seen those actors in movies? And you're like. So we're all pretending like, this is good.

[Katie Nolan]

So this. So we're loving. We just said to Gronk that this was good what he did, and we meant that.

[Chris]

Yeah. And Gronk's reading his lines. He's like Adam Sandler. I'm angry right now, Adam. Boy, you really riled me up.

[Katie Nolan]

My favorite thing about Gronk acting is when you notice how many of his lines he's not on camera for. And you're like, okay, so we did this in a booth.

[Chris]

And you go, oh, that's not even Gronk talking.

[Katie Nolan]

No. Yeah, that's somebody doing a very convincing Gronk impression while we're randomly talking about Livy Dunn. I do. I just want somebody to talk about this with. And you're here. So I feel like, why not? Did you see that they did a raising candle cane's fashion show at New York Fashion Week?

[Chris]

No. No.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know what that raising cane's is. That Local to you? Like, did they have that down in Kentucky?

[Chris]

They had it in Lexington first. So I always associated with college.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Chris]

You have football, and then you would go down to Athens for Georgia games. And then once I got to South Carolina, it was in Columbia, but I didn't. Wasn't really in Louisville until now. It's there now, but like. Like, it is your typical going there.

[Katie Nolan]

After a game, you go to raising canes. It's like a chicken place, right?

[Chris]

Yeah. Oh, it's so good, though. But they. The best thing is they have four items on the menu.

[Katie Nolan]

I actually love in my older age, I actually love that I'm at the point where I'm like, can you make my choice for me? I really don't want to have to look at a gigantic menu.

[Chris]

You go, do you want three rings? Three rings or one breast? Hot or mild?

[Katie Nolan]

So let's look at what Livy Dunne wore to the raising canes fashion show.

[Chris]

I hate this.

[Katie Nolan]

What is this?

[Chris]

That looks like you made a Barbie birthday cake.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. I don't understand. I'm trying to look up why they had a fashion show. What was raising canes Opened New York Fashion Week with a Runway show at the Standard High Line on Wednesday. Showcasing. This is in quotes. Chicken finger inspired couture designed by Jo ando Hirsch. Gotta give credit where it's due. Models include Livy Dunn, Olandria Carthen, Camille Kostek, Sierra Miller, and Brooks Nader. Presented custom looks rooted in the brand's signature menu and Louisiana heritage.

[Chris]

Let me tell you something. A model's never had raising kids.

[Katie Nolan]

They were like, and this is for what? Chicken fingers.

[Chris]

They go, are we raising hurricane funds? This is horrid and disgusting. And this is when you go, they're seeing if we're paying attention.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. This was the Runway finale, and it's a magnolia inspired ball gown.

[Chris]

Oh, Magnolia South.

[Katie Nolan]

Doesn't matter. No, don't say oh like it makes it okay. That's bad.

[Chris]

Well, you know what? I thought that was like a. I thought that was ketchup stain on your napkin.

[Katie Nolan]

I just ate raising canes. I didn't have a napkin. I wipe my hand on the top of my dress.

[Chris]

Yeah, this is. Yeah, you go, oh, your mom's here.

[Katie Nolan]

Hold on, hold on.

[Chris]

Let me eat raising canes after me. Your mom brought her homemade casserole. No, we didn't just have raising canes.

[Katie Nolan]

Other looks referenced menu favorites, from velvet sauce dip motifs to a red silk gown reflecting raising cane's iconic cup. What are we.

[Chris]

No, this is when we go, we are paying attention, and we won't stand for this.

[Katie Nolan]

Don't stop doing this.

[Chris]

That's disgusting. We want. We want high fashion. We want mean, mean bullies dressing models and things we could never wear and don't understand how you would even put it on.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. Right.

[Chris]

We don't want Southern fast food restaurant with four different wing options.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Chris]

That inspires some kind of.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Chris]

Bullshit gown.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. It's not fashion, like you said. It's just so. It's like, if you think about the product you sell and you think about the audience of Fashion Week, and it makes you go, like, they're not really our clientele, then you should go, let's do something else. Not. How do we shove raising canes into Fashion Week In a way that resonates with nobody.

[Chris]

Nobody. Also, the only thing you should be wearing if it's a raising canes fashion show is either jerseys or sundresses with cowboy boots on that you're shoving airplane bottles inside of so you can sneak them into the student section.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. Be true to you.

[Chris]

There is no. There's no gowns.

[Katie Nolan]

No. No. Not covered in ketchup.

[Chris]

No. Did you dress up for tailgates? Did you dress up for tailgates?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't. I never. I've never been to a college football tailgate in my life.

[Chris]

Huh.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, we're gonna get into it. It's kind of our bit that we've got coming up. Yeah. I'm from the Northeast, so we don't really have college football culture. And I'm super jealous of how much fun it looks and how much, like, culture around the actual sport there is in college sports. But I also like. It does not. It doesn't resonate with me. And I just am such an outsider that I look at it and go, I wish I could participate in that, but I'm not gonna pretend I did. So I have. No. I probably wouldn't have dressed up.

[Chris]

I bet.

[Katie Nolan]

Actually, I'm being honest. I would have for my, like, freshman, sophomore. I think by junior senior, I would have been like, I'm not dressing up for this.

[Chris]

You say it.

[Katie Nolan]

You think I still would.

[Chris]

I. And I'm. I'm the least dressy up person.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. No fashion sense.

[Chris]

You. I don't. I don't do that. But also, you realize in the south, they don't have fashion. It's. Sorry. It's not. It's plug and play. You have a. You have a cheetah print top with jeans. It's not high fashion.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Like a going out top.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

With your jeans.

[Chris]

Yeah. Yes. And you're. And you're brown booties.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But I didn't know. You know, I grew up Kentucky fan, so our NFL team was Kentucky basketball.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And that. We didn't. You didn't really dress up to go to RUP or anything. We go to Kentucky football, but it wasn't for anything, you know, and we weren't winning.

[Katie Nolan]

No.

[Chris]

So it wasn't that big of a deal when I. But then I went to South Carolina for actual college.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And I was like, what are we doing here? Why are we waking up three hours before tailgate? To get ready.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But they. It was. You do a sundress, and ours was either black or garnet, if you could find garnet. But it's not red and it's not purple. And it's a mix.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It's a hard color.

[Katie Nolan]

And if you get it wrong, people will bully you.

[Chris]

They go, are you wearing purple? Are you wearing Clemson purple? Right.

[Katie Nolan]

Bless your heart.

[Chris]

Your ticket's revoked.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn.

[Chris]

So sundress then cowboy boots. But the boots are important because that's how you snuck in your booze.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. So you were looking for something that wasn't tight on the calf, that had a little bit of space.

[Chris]

Correct.

[Katie Nolan]

And nobody figured that out. Nobody at the stadium figured out that it was in your stinky boot that you guys were keeping all of your booze.

[Chris]

They didn't care. They just didn't want to see it because they. Because I don't. Does SEC play. I don't think they. Some still don't serve alcohol.

[Katie Nolan]

That sounds right. I don't have the facts, but I know, like, they slowly, like, places were introducing it. I know. Like Notre Dame. I know that's not sec, but they just started doing alcohol in their stadium.

[Chris]

I believe this season. Yeah. It's a new thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So some. It's like a slow rollout, I think. School by school. Yeah.

[Chris]

I'm like, what are we doing? Why do we. This is. Everybody wants to have a beer when they're watching football.

[Katie Nolan]

Also, if I can't have one inside, I'm coming in blacked out.

[Chris]

That was the problem.

[Katie Nolan]

I have to do all of it in the parking lot.

[Chris]

Remember, after the third quarter.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And actually, now as we're doing this, I think I did go to one tailgate my freshman year before Hofstra got rid of its football team, which they did right away. And I think I drank something of vodka out of a bottle oh, yeah, but that's something like Devil's River. Is that a name of a. I.

[Chris]

Don'T remember that one.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know, man. I just remember going like, I'll never do this again.

[Chris]

Oh, it's so fun.

[Katie Nolan]

And then they got rid of the football team, so I didn't have to worry about.

[Chris]

Here's. Here's Trish. I'm so sad for you. This is all I know. Okay, so you wake up hours early, right? And then Williams Bryce in South Carolina was a few miles outside the stadium. Some of them like you could walk to, but I know Athens, I feel like you had to be driven to. I don't remember. Every time I went to a game in Georgia, I was blackout now. So you wake up early, you put on your sundress, you put on your boots, and then you get called a pletch pledge. You know, pledge, pledges and fraternity.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

The young guys. And they're always driving Tahoes or pickup trucks, okay? So you put on average 26 girls into that vehicle. It is dragging on the ground. They drive you to the tailgate, you know, and so the fraternities want their pledges to pick you up because then they're bringing the girls to their tailgate, right? So you're going to SAE or you're going to Kappa Alpha's tailgate and there's.

[Katie Nolan]

Signage indicating where they are. No, you're just walking up.

[Chris]

It's a Brethren kind of thing. It's kind of a vibe thing, right? Yeah, totally. And, and so they all have their little. Their different designated tailgates, right? It's all very dusty and disgusting and gross. And then they have coolers full of drinks and they have their designated entertainment. Now, pregame entertainment is different than post game entertainment, okay? Pregame is a little bit more subdued. Okay? Maybe just playing music. It might be a band. And then, and then they want to give all the girl free drinks, right? So you're doing all that. Then you got. You get wasted, you go into the game, you don't remember the game. Then you come back, the game's kind.

[Katie Nolan]

Of just like secondary. It doesn't really. You'll find out what happened later. Yeah, sure, sure.

[Chris]

But now here's the thing. If it's a big game, then the fraternities will go all out on their post game entertainment. So you go back to fraternities. I saw the yin Yang twins.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Chris]

And I say you tailgate.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Chris]

After like a South Carolina Alabama win, when like we beat Alabama one Time. But we saw Big Gigantic. We got. Who else did they get? They would get, like. They would get, like, rappers that were big.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, seven years before that. And now they're doing college appearances.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh?

[Chris]

And. And then you would. You would rock out with your Gamecock out at night.

[Katie Nolan]

That's sick. How much of that did you do in college of making fun of the fact that it's the Gamecocks?

[Chris]

Did it get old instead? If I had. He was like, you can go to South Carolina. He was mad because he's a Kentucky fan. Spurrier was the coach then, you know, beat every other team to the smithereens when he was at Florida. So he said, you can go, but he's like, if I see you on national television with Cox on your chest, I will pull you out of school immediately.

[Katie Nolan]

My dad said the same thing, so.

[Chris]

I never wore a shirt that said Cox on it.

[Katie Nolan]

Great.

[Chris]

I did. No, I wasn't on tv.

[Katie Nolan]

Never.

[Chris]

Yeah, it was a lot of. It was a lot of jokes.

[Katie Nolan]

Sounds like maybe there's a clip to be found.

[Chris]

There's. Okay. I did get in trouble. I worked. My major is called Sport and Entertainment Management.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. What?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

You majored in Sport and Entertainment Management?

[Chris]

Yes. We were like feeder programs into, like. But it was more like venue. The venue management and, like, Ticketmaster, Live Nation, all the best companies, all the good ones. So I was. I worked at our arena.

[Katie Nolan]

That's sick.

[Chris]

All of college.

[Katie Nolan]

That's very sick.

[Chris]

But I was a huge. I was still a huge Kentucky fan. And so Kentucky came. Calipari was the coach. John Wall was there. The Cousins were there. Demarcus Cousins was there. They were number one. And there was one other girl that was from Kentucky that was at South Carolina with me. So we got. We got to the game early, got front row of the student section, then ripped off our jerseys and had Kentucky shirts on. And South Carolina upset them that game and rushed the field. And so the COVID of the student news section is us in our blue shirts in front while everyone else is rushing the court.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, wow. You're such a rebel.

[Chris]

That is on. It's called the Daily Gamecock. That's somewhere on the Internet.

[Katie Nolan]

Someone will be looking it up, I'm sure, and we'll pull it up.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Well, that's a perfect lead in to the bit that I wanted to do with you. Okay. Because you grew up in Kentucky in SEC country, you went to. To University of South Carolina. You're indoctrinated. And SEC culture is the only thing I can really compare it to, in terms of, like, a culture shock for an outsider is like, I went to college on Long Island, Hofstra, and when I got to Long Island, I remember being like, it's right near New York. It's very close to Boston. It's only three or four hours away. How different can it be? And I got to Long island and found out, like, very different. It's very different. Different. And the SEC is kind of like that, too. I remember a couple years ago, you guys had that commercial where that girl was like, the sec. It just means more. And everybody loves to say that. That it just means more to you guys than it means. And I don't. It doesn't. That doesn't make sense to me.

[Chris]

Why would you go to any other college if you're a football fan? College football fan?

[Katie Nolan]

Because you could. Because there's so many. There's whole other conferences. I don't know, like, the Big 12 that has 75 schools in it, or the Big 10 that has 18 schools in it.

[Chris]

I know, but play in SEC school.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So this is what I was hoping you could do for me is explain to me the importance of some phrases or concepts that come up a lot when talking about SEC so that myself and our listeners and more casual fans who don't follow college sports at all can better understand, like, SEC culture.

[Chris]

I'm ready.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. So let's start easy and talk about Roll Tide as, like, a standard element of conversation.

[Chris]

As somebody who's so over that Roll Tide is. I'm trying to compare this. It's as political as you can get as far as college sports go.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

God, what is it like, you know, when, like, bros are like, U, S.

[Katie Nolan]

A U, S, A or like, jets fans that spell their team name? They're like J, E, T, S. Jets. Jets.

[Chris]

Jets. Yes. If you're in it, it's. It's amazing. If you hate Alabama football, it's the most annoying thing you could ever hear on the face of the planet.

[Katie Nolan]

And they use it in every context.

[Chris]

They. People have named their children. Roll Todd.

[Katie Nolan]

Roll. First name Todd. Men.

[Chris]

Right? Yes. Roll Todd. I. Fans use Roll Tide to say congratulations, to say, my condolences at a funeral. At a funeral. Yeah. They go, rest in peace. Roll Tide.

[Katie Nolan]

That's crazy.

[Chris]

It's. It's just.

[Katie Nolan]

It.

[Chris]

It's a phrase that's been. It's. It's. It needs to be buried. But it's. It's. It's how Alabama expresses any kind of emotional. Emotional. Any emotions at All. That's all they say is Roll Tide.

[Katie Nolan]

Just like there's a sad Roll Tide. Give me a sad Roll Tide. Oh, you probably don't even want to say Roll Tide.

[Chris]

I'll give it to you. It's like this Roll Tide.

[Katie Nolan]

Give me a. I just had my first baby and we're at the. You're at the. Is the baby at the baby shower? No, that's before the baby. You're meeting my new baby at the hospital.

[Chris]

Okay, Rod?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. My. I just lost my job.

[Chris]

Roll Tad.

[Katie Nolan]

Perfect. And don't clip those and make it seem like she's an Alabama fan. No, she's doing us a favor.

[Chris]

Please.

[Katie Nolan]

She's doing us a deep favor.

[Chris]

Also. They say you're, like, pumped that, you know the Chiefs are falling off.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. You're pumped about Alabama falling off because they are.

[Chris]

It just was boring after a while.

[Katie Nolan]

It was just from the outside. It was boring. It's like the same every year.

[Chris]

Mix it up. I. I don't want. I'd rather an SEC win versus anybody, but, you know, I'd rather, like, watch Oregon win over Alabama at this point.

[Katie Nolan]

Ashley Judd.

[Chris]

That's my queen. That's my girl. That's my girl. She. Kentucky basketball fan, grew up in Kentucky. There is a sexy, sexy, sexy picture of her. Oh, she's younger Ashley Judd, and she's modeling or posing in this.

[Katie Nolan]

I think it's a Kentucky raising cane's ball gown.

[Chris]

She would never. She would never. She's too cool for that. She's like, pose. It's like. It's. I think it's for a Kentucky basketball season. It's like poster or something. Or she's like in a hockey jersey. But it's Kentucky. And she's so hot.

[Katie Nolan]

She is so hot.

[Chris]

She's so hot.

[Katie Nolan]

Why are people talking about that more?

[Chris]

She. Listen, I hate to. I hate to get go here, but I'm just gonna say it. She goes to Kentucky home games all the time at rep and a lot of times we can cut this if we need to. She doesn't wear a bra. Oh, and she's cheering.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

She's jumping up and down.

[Katie Nolan]

And as she is free to do.

[Chris]

And it is a sight to see.

[Katie Nolan]

A sight to see. Did you see Theo Vaughn was on the sidelines for the Vandy?

[Chris]

He was.

[Katie Nolan]

And he had a bet with Vandy quarterback Diego Pavia, who I guess had promised him that he would set him up. Theo on a date with his mom, Antoinette, if they beat South Carolina. And then they did. I have so Many questions about that.

[Chris]

I think Theo needs to date a good mom.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't see why that's the least of my. That's like, okay, yeah, that's. That he should be so lucky.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Now, why, though, as the quarterback of a team, are you giving away a date with your mom if you will win? I don't think.

[Chris]

Well, he probably thought it was a long shot.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And I think. I think, you know, you offered your mom up to go on a date with Theo. You know, it's not gonna last.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

He's not. Theo's not gonna be your stepdad.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. That'd be tough. Yeah, that'd be tough. I just. It's just a strange, Like a. Hmm. Is Antoinette into this? I don't.

[Chris]

Her name is Antoinette?

[Katie Nolan]

I think so. That's what it says here.

[Chris]

God, Theo and Antoinette sitting in a tree. That is the new prince and princess of college football. My friend Anders is the head coach of the volleyball team at Vandy. Have you ever gone into college volleyball?

[Katie Nolan]

No, but I.

[Chris]

So fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Women's vol. Women's college volleyball, I've gotten into. It's just a.

[Chris]

It's so fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Intense.

[Chris]

It's so fun. One of my very good friends, Stephanie Cleveland, fit. Played at UK SEC player of the year, Libero Shout out. Yes, dude. So I would go to a bunch of games to go watch her, and it. Dude. When it's a close game. Oh, it is so fun.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a close game, and there's like a spike, and you're like, what?

[Chris]

Yes. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

That's crazy.

[Chris]

And it's always at, like 11am on a Saturday or Sunday or so. It's so early in the morning, and you're like.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like when you go to. You get. Yeah. And you get, like, a coffee and put, like, you make a fun, boozy coffee drink to go to the thing because it's so early.

[Chris]

Yeah. I. If you've never experienced it, that's fun.

[Katie Nolan]

I should go to that live. I would absolutely do that live.

[Chris]

So fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, talk to me about Brian Kelly's fake Southern accent.

[Chris]

Who's Brian Kelly?

[Katie Nolan]

The head coach of lsu. Have you seen this?

[Chris]

I haven't seen it, but guess what? I, I'm for it. You do what you got to do, honey.

[Katie Nolan]

I love that.

[Chris]

Okay. Because this is what I do know about college head coaches. I, I, I was in Louisville. I grew up with Patrino and Patino kids, good friends of mine.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Wow.

[Chris]

Yeah. That is a very. It's a. That is. You're under a lot of pressure and it's not, not like the NFL. You are representing a college, a university, and no matter who you are, you might be a great coach or whatever, but you have to, you're almost like a senator. You have the expectations of a senator, where you're like, I have to present. Like, this is my family.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

These are our Christian.

[Katie Nolan]

If it's a public school too, they're, that's like, that's like funded. Yeah. Publicly funded. So they're, they're government employees, essentially.

[Chris]

Yeah. So it's almost like, like, I'm not saying that these coaches had this, but I, I, I, I h, I have an understanding where the university goes. Hey, we understand. You are who you are. Here's how you need to present for our university. And you just go, okay. Yeah. And so it, so you're, it's very political. So I'm sure he's just like, you know what? I'm the head coach of LSU now. Let me play the part. And I.

[Katie Nolan]

You're for it.

[Chris]

Sometimes I got a self tape for a real southern girl and I fake an accent.

[Katie Nolan]

But you. So Brian Kelly's from Everett, Massachusetts.

[Chris]

I'm telling you, it's. You go behind closed doors with that athletic director and he's like, you could be here a long time and you could make a lot of money. I'm gonna need you to go talk to this dialect coach.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Talk to me about the bayou.

[Chris]

Yeah. You want a raising Cane's commercial.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Talk.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Okay. So you're for it. I love that. I've seen a lot of people against it.

[Chris]

No, you gotta, it's. If, if you've seen it from the other side, you get it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

All right. And then explain to me. Sorority rush videos, dude, they've gotten so intense. Intense themed. Yeah, the, the camera work.

[Chris]

Yeah, I, I know. Thank God that wasn't around when I was rushing because I was like, I just wanted to be in a fun sorority. I didn't know I had to be a world renowned hip.

[Katie Nolan]

What sorority were you in?

[Chris]

Kyo baby. Kyoto La Dio at the University of South Carolina. They had one that just went viral. But theirs are good because those are funny. They do like Ace Ventura. That's fun characters and Napoleon Dynamite characters. The rush has gotten so intense, you know, now even like, have you seen like the Alabama Rush tiktoks where they're like, they're like, it's day three and this is who I'm wearing. I got David Yurman on here. And it's like you're, like you're.

[Katie Nolan]

There's.

[Chris]

You're wearing $4,000.

[Katie Nolan]

Where'd you get that? I was on a meal card and I would try to swipe it twice in the same day and they'd go, it's still technically lunch. And you've had that already. You can't come back in here. Where are you getting the money to.

[Chris]

Have all of this? I don't.

[Katie Nolan]

Van Cleef or whatever.

[Chris]

I don't.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. You're broke. You're supposed to be broke.

[Chris]

You're supposed to be broke. You're supposed to be. This is like you're meeting your friends, right? These are the people that you're. You vibe with.

[Katie Nolan]

You live not at home for the first time. Like, you're supposed to be out there.

[Chris]

And now it's like this. And I don't know why dance was the thing, because I, I'm also like. A lot of this is. Is SEC schools.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

We're not. We're not good dancers. You know, we're. We're not. We didn't grow up in the hip hop world, right? You didn't? No.

[Katie Nolan]

You don't think it was.

[Chris]

I did it. It's very intense.

[Katie Nolan]

They are always doing like a hip hop themed. Where you're like, you could have done any type of dancing that you wanted to.

[Chris]

We swing dance.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. This. Okay. So that sums up SEC pretty much. I. The. This is a. A bonus for me because I know nobody really cares about UNC football, but I do. I am curious to know if you have any thoughts on Bill Belichick and his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.

[Chris]

I. I'm going to say the. The same thing I said about the Southern accent. I'm just like, you think it's a play?

[Katie Nolan]

Because I actually was thinking about this today again. I'm not into college football like that, but I sort of had this moment where I went like, you think like an advisor or somebody said, like, you know, the students and the recruits you're talking to will really respond well to you having a young, excited pageant girl by your side. It tests well. And he was like, great. I picked this one.

[Chris]

I think. Here's what I think. I think it originally was a. Just a fun thing for him. And then it goes, oh, boy, gee golly, are we relevant now?

[Katie Nolan]

So true. I watched their first game. Me.

[Chris]

That's what I'm saying. And they go. And you go, you're you. You know. Did he retire for a second?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

Retired For a second. Then he went, oh, I miss all this.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, he left the NFL. I actually shouldn't say did he officially. In my mind, he retired. But he couldn't get it. Nobody wanted to hire him, okay?

[Chris]

Now he's. He's in the headlines. Everybody's obsessed with them. Maybe. Maybe it was supposed to be, this is a fun, young thing. This is gonna be a fling. And now it's put him in the headlines again. He's hired. It brings excitement to the games and the school. Why not keep it going?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay?

[Chris]

I'm in the business, baby.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, you get it. You know, you're in the business, and you're from Kentucky, which basically means you are primed and prepped for any weird relationship dynamic there could possibly be.

[Chris]

I also like the gall of that woman. I'm like, hell yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. She needs an advocate on her behal. She needs somebody to say that what she's doing is awesome.

[Chris]

Screw it. Screw it. It's so funny.

[Katie Nolan]

She is.

[Chris]

You know? And, like, also, he's so intimidating.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Do you know, like, you know, he's so intended. He's so intense to watch a young woman call the shots for him. I'm like, hell, yeah. You know, she's like, we won't be answering that. We won't be doing that. And he's like, yeah, what she said. I'm like, fascinating. You know, like, he was that go to the Patriots for so long, and he was just this, like, steel Matro boys club, you know? And then all of a sudden, just, like, this young, tiny thing, like, making the place for him. I'm like, this is beautiful.

[Katie Nolan]

This is showing up to the interview in, like, matching sweatshirts together, like, what?

[Chris]

Dude, Is this so funny? And the fact that, like, his children have a problem with her, and she's like, okay, don't care.

[Katie Nolan]

Don't care.

[Chris]

I'm like, hell, yeah. This is great.

[Katie Nolan]

The fact that she got into a commercial that he was. That he had to do. She's like, what if I'm in a bikini while you shoot the commercial and you keep cutting back to me and I'm just here. Then she got in a Super bowl commercial for Dunkin Donuts.

[Chris]

You know, they're looking at Bill like, are you okay with that? And he's. He's like, yes. Yeah, I'm okay with it.

[Katie Nolan]

It's fascinating.

[Chris]

I. I love it.

[Katie Nolan]

You love it.

[Chris]

I go, why the hell not?

[Katie Nolan]

Why not? Whatever. World's ending.

[Chris]

The world is ending.

[Katie Nolan]

Let Bill Belichick, right, Have a woman who's younger. Who's younger than her dad? Is the halfway point between their ages? Cause she's in her 20s, he's in his 70s, and her dad's in this family. 50s.

[Chris]

Hilarious. Okay, here's what I like about it is it doesn't feel. You don't feel gross or. Or sad for her. Like, okay, you know, when Kanye was dating that Bianca. What's her face.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, boy. Sorry. Ironically enough, I saw her boobs all the time, and her last name sounded Italian for sensor. It was.

[Chris]

But she was always, always, like, she could never speak. Yeah, he was always. She was always next to him, always naked. Her eyes were always, like. Her eyes were begging for help. That was somebody. You're like, I feel uncomfortable.

[Katie Nolan]

Stop showing me this relationship.

[Chris]

And you're always like, you. You wanted to look at her and be like, are you okay?

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Chris]

This girl with Belichick, you're like, oh, she's.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. But then I want to look at Belichick and go, are you okay? Is this woman bothering you? Do you need something?

[Chris]

Yeah. Yeah. But that's beautiful.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, in its own way, it's awesome.

[Chris]

It's awesome. Also, like, you're like, dad, meet my boyfriend. You guys are gonna get along great.

[Katie Nolan]

You guys don't even consume the same media because he's older than you. Last bit of news here. Outside of that little bit we just did, I just wanted to be the first person to break this to you. A Kentucky man has become the first American to win the World Stone Skimming Championship this week in Scotland.

[Chris]

I love that. We've got a lot of rivers.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

We got a lot of ponds, and there's a lot of limestone. Thin rock. Good for skipping.

[Katie Nolan]

Good for skipping.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

September 6th at Easedale island in Scotland. This is a quote from him. This is from your local news. Lex6. I think it was Lex11 or something like that. I'm the first American to ever win the World Championship. The event has been happening annually since 1997. I know we've all been paying attention. Not only did I end up winning it, but my official cumulative score ended up being 177 meters, which is the record for that contest as well now.

[Chris]

Okay. You know what I'm most proud of? This guy knows how far a meter is. Yeah, I don't.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know if I do either. Is that the one? That's three feet. That's a yard.

[Chris]

Don't know, but that's awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

I love the way he goes, like. You know, I'm the first American to ever do it. Not only that, but I think I heard maybe that I actually set a world. It's like he's being humble, but he's also. But he knows, relaying the facts that he's the best.

[Chris]

Now why is America not good at skip rocking? What is the country that's good at skip rock?

[Katie Nolan]

Such a good question. That's such a good question.

[Chris]

Who else has the waterways and the rocks?

[Katie Nolan]

I would bet since it's in Scotland, I bet they're pretty good at it. Cuz what else are they doing?

[Chris]

What else are they doing? But they're so drunk.

[Katie Nolan]

And they've got a lot of locks, right? Aren't they the places with the locks?

[Chris]

Maybe a lot of fs. Yeah, that.

[Katie Nolan]

I bet like the watery countries are good at it.

[Chris]

Sweden don't know if there's water there.

[Katie Nolan]

I think so. Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

It's in between Norway and Finland. But there's water down at the bottom.

[Chris]

That water down the bottom. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. This is gonna be so off topic. I'm very proud of this man. But I just saw this last night.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Chris]

Because it's such a weird competition.

[Katie Nolan]

Skipping stones.

[Chris]

Skipping stones.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And the fact that there's an international.

[Katie Nolan]

Like an organized body that looks over. Yeah. Crazy.

[Chris]

There was this. It was a viral video and I was like, how. How is there an organized championship for this? And how are there commentators on this?

[Katie Nolan]

Is it slippery stairs?

[Chris]

No. Damn, no. Is that one? Yeah, but there's two. Wait, I'm gonna go to this one and then I'm gonna be like the one that I wanna commentate.

[Katie Nolan]

Great.

[Chris]

It was window tenting. Did you see this viral clip?

[Katie Nolan]

No.

[Chris]

There's a viral clip. I probably. I might have to send it to you afterwards. Not only is there a competition for window tinting, but there were commentators watching this guy and being like, he's so good. See how he. He's hand cutting with his own knife at this, on this window at an angle and he's. He's heating it and moistening it at the same level so that there's no bubbles on it, which you know. And you could look behind him and realize there's like hundreds of other men tinting their own windows. That's a big competition.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, as anyone who's ever put a privacy screen on their phone knows, those bubbles will fuck you up the bubble.

[Chris]

Yeah. And you're watching it as the, like you're. You're doing this though. You're like, God, he's Good God, he's good.

[Katie Nolan]

Or like, oh, this guy sucks. I love when you turn on something and first you go through the motions of, like, how is this a sport? How are they commentating on it? Wow, that guy's really good. Oh, my God. That guy's the worst I've ever seen. All of a sudden, you're invested. I'm looking. This clip window tinting championship. Yeah, man.

[Chris]

Where I wish I had my phone with me. It's.

[Katie Nolan]

He's Tinder battle.

[Chris]

Is that what it's called?

[Katie Nolan]

Tintertainment.

[Chris]

Tinter battles. That's what it's called.

[Katie Nolan]

Tintertainment is crazy.

[Chris]

Yeah. And it is.

[Katie Nolan]

This is the role that won him $40,000.

[Chris]

The competition that I want to be a commentator one day is the hobby horse competitions. Have you seen these Would be so good at that. You know what I'm obsessed with, because people send me these clips all the time. You've seen these clips, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Where they've got a little horse on a stick?

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the. The nationals are in, I think Sweden, actually.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

There's nationals. The. My favorite part is you see these clips of these girls, and, you know, there's jumping, there's cantering. All the horses form so many different. Different competitions. But these girls are, like. You know what I mean? They're, like, breathing heavy. Mom spaghetti. They're getting into it. Like one. Yeah. They don't clear a jump, and they're just. They're crying, they're devastated. Then the camera kind of zooms out into the bleachers, and it's like, four people.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, God.

[Chris]

And one is just, like, a person, like, passed out drunk, like, just in there for sure.

[Katie Nolan]

Just like, I needed somewhere to sleep. And they're like, can you just get out of the hallway of the convention center and come sit in here?

[Chris]

Yeah. And these girls are just, like, living for it. This is my life. You don't understand.

[Katie Nolan]

Amazing.

[Chris]

And they, like, have a connection with their stick horse. My get me in in there. You would be perfect for it.

[Katie Nolan]

We need to find a way to get you in there to do.

[Chris]

I will. I will. I've said it. That's my life goal.

[Katie Nolan]

You also need to watch Slippery Stairs. It is.

[Chris]

Is that a thing?

[Katie Nolan]

So it's one of those things when you're flipping through your TV on the guide and you're like, I still have cable. I just feel like I just outed myself as an old lady. But I'm flipping through and it just says slippery stairs. But it's Only half an hour and it's on ESPN in the middle of the day. And I'm like, I am. I cannot click on. Of course I want to see what the hell that is. And then you find out it's just a flight of stairs outside. A self standing flight of stairs that gets covered in this like white tarpy, slippy thing and then covered in like, I guess water or whatever, oil, whatever makes it slippery. And the people, there's like six people at a time, they start at the bottom of the stairs and their job is to climb up to the top of the stairs and ring a bell. Sometimes they throw each other into each other. Sometimes nobody can get up to the top because it's too slippery. I don't, I don't.

[Chris]

Are they wearing pads?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, sometimes. Good. One thing I noticed, I took issue with, not to immediately ruin the funny thing I just brought up, but the guys will wear like a bright color. So it's like an orange, a yellow, a pink T shirt and go up. The girls do it in a full. You know when someone like almost the ones that have like the face over them. Like a full body suit.

[Chris]

Yeah, the spandex.

[Katie Nolan]

Wacky spandex, but no face. They have their heads out, but they're in a full spandex suit. And I'm like, I don't think. Really, why are we doing that? Why don't we make the guys do that too? Then? I don't know, what's the. It's just a weird women slipping around on each other in these tight suits. You know, like, this is different. It's funnier when it's the guys because I can just go like, oh, look, I tossed him into another guy and they fell down the. But the women, you're like, I don't like the camera angle they're using. I don't like the camera angle they're using.

[Chris]

It's like tied on their butt and.

[Katie Nolan]

It'S all spandex and they're underneath it going, will she make it up the stairs? And the woman's got her ass in the air. She's not thinking about it because she's trying to get up these slippers.

[Chris]

She's trying not to die on the steps.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So it's. I don't know. It's only. That's my feminist on slippery stairs.

[Chris]

Yeah. At least they're not in bikinis.

[Katie Nolan]

True. And I bet they were when it started. So at least progress has been made.

[Chris]

You know what it was? They were like, we didn't want to See all these women bruised.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Too many. Too many bruises. Too much. And too many nip slips. We can't for sure. There is only so much fashion tape you can put on to keep your.

[Chris]

Bathing suit so they cover the whole body.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

That's fun though. That's fun. If my lover said they were getting into that, I'd say, I'm leaving you. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's your entitled to that. Me, I'd go, I'm doubling down. I love that. I love training. Training. We're training now. I should look and see if there's like ages because maybe these funny sports are the ones that you're like, you could probably do that in your 30s. Who's gonna stop you? They just need the bodies.

[Chris]

They need BO. They do. And there's not that many people.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And there's no way. It's like a, like there's no way. They have like a. Well, you gotta work your way up. I mean we saw that late. That Australian lady make it all the way to the Olympics for breakdancing. And people were like, she doesn't even know how to break dance.

[Chris]

She doesn't remember that she was an opera sing singer.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Is. Was she?

[Chris]

No.

[Katie Nolan]

She could have been. She was something that wasn't a break dancer that I know.

[Chris]

She, she said that she taught break dance.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. Or that she like studied it or something and it was like, okay to people who are blind cuz otherwise someone would go, I don't think I like the way you do it. I don't think I like the way you do it.

[Chris]

They were like, we just actually didn't know what breakdancing was.

[Katie Nolan]

You've broken dancing. I can tell you that. I can tell you that. Catherine Blandford, thank you so much for being here.

[Chris]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

Tell the people where they can find you because they're going to want to. Cuz you're the best.

[Chris]

Please come see me on tour. I am coming to. Where am I going. Minneapolis, Lexington, Tulsa. Coming up. All my tour dates are@katherine blford.com and I have a new podcast out.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right.

[Chris]

With Shane Torres shout out called Coastal Idiots.

[Katie Nolan]

And they can find it wherever they find their podcasts. No, that's the only one place we.

[Chris]

Made a very difficult decision and made it only. Only available video wise. Video form. In video form. So it's only on YouTube.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh good. That's fine. There's a lot of the literal opposite of this podcast perfect. Where people are like, please just put the whole thing on YouTube and I'm like, we can't yet, but we hopefully will eventually.

[Chris]

It's just talkies.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Good. Okay, so your little skits are on YouTube.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Thank you so much for coming in.

[Chris]

Thanks for having me. This was a hoot. Toodles.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

All right, unk.

[Chris]

Welcome to McDonald's. Can I take your order, miss?

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[Unknown Casuals Member]

You get to a tailgate.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I mean, did you see your face when I said I had? She was like, what? What? Which I guess is crazy. I've been to, like, a pro tailgate, but it's different. It's not the same tailgate like a. Before a game, what's up?

[Isabella]

But what's a pro tail like a pro football.

[Katie Nolan]

I've been to like, pro football games and tailgated before those. I've just never been to a college.

[Isabella]

I was like, is there a con?

[Katie Nolan]

No, it's when you tailgate for a. It's when you tailgate for a living. A pro tailgate. I make money from it.

[Isabella]

Like the Bills.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And I can't play in NCAA anymore. Gotcha. Like the Bills. Our girl, she warms my heart. Go pates. Let's talk about your fantasy team, Isabella. Okay.

[Isabella]

What about it?

[Katie Nolan]

How did this last week go? Week two.

[Isabella]

Guys, I want to be so honest. I didn't really pay much attention to this week, but I somehow came up. I came out on top.

[Katie Nolan]

What was the final score?

[Isabella]

Hold on. I got it right here.

[Brady]

This thing just comes too easy to use.

[Chris]

It's crazy.

[Isabella]

I'm telling you, I'm a witch.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

It's like 148, 123. She says, I didn't pay attention.

[Katie Nolan]

148 is crazy. Who was your big points getter? Who got you the most points?

[Isabella]

I can't see the last week. Oh, no, I can, I can. 148.

[Chris]

Let's see.

[Isabella]

I think it was Puka Puka. Nakua puka with 27.6 points.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow. What's.

[Brady]

Good day.

[Katie Nolan]

That is good day. What else? Who else got you a big week?

[Brady]

McCaffrey.

[Isabella]

McCaffrey with 22.7 and Brandon Aubrey.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God, I forgot you had Brandon Aubrey.

[Isabella]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Damn. From him.

[Isabella]

22.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. From a kicker is crazy.

[Isabella]

Is it okay?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Isabella]

One thing I am glad, though, because I remember last week, Brady, you were saying, like, oh, if I were to make some suggestion of like, who to swap would be to put Devonta Smith. Glad I didn't swap and didn't pay attention at all.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Your team, not mine, with creating a.

[Isabella]

Starting lineup because he only had nine points and the position that he would have been in was with Pickens. And Pickens got 17.88 points.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. So you're an idiot, Brady. In conclusion, Isabella says, I'm not going to call Brady. I know, and I was only kidding. And as I said it. What about what happened with your defense? We talked about maybe. And then I saw that Seattle had a couple. The defense played okay. Did you end up. You started them.

[Isabella]

Yeah. Seattle. I don't know what this means. 17 points allow three.

[Chris]

Sack two.

[Isabella]

Two int. Rhett, td.

[Katie Nolan]

I bet you could figure those out.

[Isabella]

Points allow 14 to 20.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

So you saw the retd.

[Katie Nolan]

How many points did they give you?

[Isabella]

14.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's good.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Did you see the Rhett TD they got? It was. They kicked off to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh's kick returner is a rookie running back. It's just standing there like the one yard line and just lets the ball go and it just stops in the end zone and.

[Katie Nolan]

And it had touched him. And if the ball touches you, it's live. Until the ball touches somebody. It's not. But the ball had touched him but he didn't fall on it or anything. And then they did. Your defense did and they got a Rhett touchdown. That's a return.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

So by not knowing the rules, he let Seattle just run in there and they just fell on the ball for six free points.

[Isabella]

Okay. Sick.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So you did. You did good. Let's talk about this upcoming week. What does it look like? What are your projections? Are we making any moves?

[Isabella]

Okay, so this is the thing is like I've won both of these week with this, with this lineup and so I get.

[Chris]

I don't know.

[Isabella]

I don't know. I mean, let me see who my matchup is. I am playing Cooking Pollard greens.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Okay.

[Isabella]

It's actually projected that they are going to win. They have Bo Nicks. Is that his first name?

[Katie Nolan]

Bo, Right.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Shortest name in history.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, Bo Nicks.

[Isabella]

And I don't know who any of these players are, so I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know.

[Isabella]

I don't know. I'm just gonna compare the numbers and then whichever is a higher number, I'm gonna swap this.

[Chris]

That's fine.

[Katie Nolan]

That's a perfectly fine strategy. It served you so far. Let's talk.

[Brady]

You've got a really strong bench right now, so you can, you'll probably. Once you make some subs based on those projections, I think you might be pretty close.

[Isabella]

So at what point, like go ahead.

[Katie Nolan]

It's okay. At what point can you just add somebody?

[Chris]

At what point point.

[Isabella]

Is there a point where I can like not trade with another team in the league but actually just get a new player?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

So after Wednesday.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Of any given week, I guess on Wednesday.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Wednesday at like midnight. Like, like Tuesday night into Wednesday is when waivers turn over.

[Katie Nolan]

So like if you wanted somebody that you thought a lot of people wanted, you could, at the beginning of the week you could submit a waiver that would be like, I would like this guy. And then it's going to go through the. Whatever the order is of your. And you might get him and you might, might not. Okay. But past Wednesday you can just add anybody who's available straight to Your team, you could just pick up a new tight end. That's one of the available ones. You would have to free up the spot on your roster. It doesn't have to be the tight end that you drop. You would just need there to be a spot to put the guy. Yeah, but you can do that freely in the second half of the week. At the beginning of the week is when, like, if you tried to add somebody, it would be like, well, hold on, we're submitting a waiver claim and then we'll see if you get him. Does that make sense? Waivers are kind of hard to explain.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

So from my understanding, it sounds like you would want to go the waiver route. If it's a player that you've been, that you want, like you've been eyeing and you want to submit.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it's basically like if it's a, a high demand person that like, let's say a running back from a team that runs the ball, a lot is injured and so this guy that nobody cared about before has now been elevated to the starting running back. So a bunch of people are going to want him.

[Chris]

Him.

[Katie Nolan]

You would submit your waiver claim.

[Isabella]

The Wavy wire.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right, baby. It's such a wavy. You gotta ride the wave. But yeah, I think you could pick up a tight end maybe just to Mark Andrews. And then of course, now Mark Andrews will go off, I'm sure, but it's not really doing anything for you tied.

[Brady]

In such a volatile position. Like, it's really shallow. Like outside of, you know, two or three guys, do tight ends ever usually.

[Isabella]

Get in any points on Fantasy?

[Brady]

Yeah, some of them, but like very, very few. You've really got three or four who you can count on pretty much week in, week out. And outside of that, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So, you know, just follow your heart. Listen to your heart. You can look at the projected points for the available tight ends and be like, this one seems like they're going to make a lot more points than my guy. And then listen to your heart. Listen to your little Etsy witch heart.

[Isabella]

I was gonna say, I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask an Essie witch. I'm gonna be like, hey, help me out.

[Katie Nolan]

But only on sale. You don't have to use like a full price. Etsy witch.

[Brady]

I will say you are sport for choice on your bench because you have both. Javante Williams on your bench who's so far this season. Granted we're only through two weeks, but he is the RB2, I think overall he scored a whole bunch of points, was really prolific over the weekend. I think a lot of people were skeptical after their opening round matchup because he had a couple of touchdowns, but that sort of inflated the amount of fantasy points that he had. But last week, he followed that up with a strong performance, ran the ball a bunch, had a lot of yards per attempt, looked really good, looked a lot like Javante Williams before all of his injuries. So he's a good option to have. And J.K. dobbins as well, has looked really good. So those two guys on your bench are going to be nice to have if you wanted to sub them in. It'd be really handy.

[Isabella]

Maybe I need to give my bench some. Some spotlight, you know?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. You know, show them some love. Yeah, why not? Here's what you definitely need to do. By the time we do this next week, next Thursday, I'd like you to have some options for a name. Okay. I don't want to put pressure on you.

[Isabella]

I was thinking, what if I just keep it?

[Katie Nolan]

Nope. No.

[Isabella]

It'd be kind of funny.

[Katie Nolan]

Kind of. But it also would be not kind of funny. Right. So I feel like, what if we just had ideas? What if we just brainstormed a couple of ideas? They don't have to be named after players on your team. They can men, be just something cute. I just think you deserve a cute team name. You're much cuter than your name says that you are.

[Isabella]

Okay, okay, fine.

[Katie Nolan]

Just some ideas.

[Isabella]

One of my friends was like. I was like, I need some advice. What should I do? And she's like, why don't you do a spin off the Casuals and call it the Casualties? And I was like, babes, girl, we do that already. I'm so sorry.

[Katie Nolan]

Every Tuesday and Thursday, wherever you get.

[Isabella]

Your podcast, I am a casualty. Like, oh, God, you clearly don't fucking listen to my job.

[Katie Nolan]

Girl, please.

[Brady]

You could, like, you could riff off some of your old sayings that you've had throughout the past few months. You could say, fuck it, let's go to Chili's, have something like that. Have an iteration of that as your team.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. You could really do anything you want with it, except leave it what it is. It's hurting my feelings. Okay. I know Brady's chomping at the bit to pitch you a couple puns you could use for your team now. Name. But I just. Just a couple ideas, and we'll pick one next week. Is that okay? Okay.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Good. All right, you guys this has been a seven hour podcast. Thank you so much for listening. We the the emails, casuals, occasional gmail.com voicemail 646-810-43 on IG Tik Tok. We are at casual as the podcast.

[Chris]

Casual.

[Katie Nolan]

Casual is the podcast. I ran out of air and then I choked on it. Okay, listen to fans service every day, noon to 1, Monday through Friday, noon to 1 on Mad Dog Sports Radio, channel 82. 888Maddog 6. You can call me, we can talk. I'm having fun. We're loving it.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Okay, I'm supposed to give you the. The link. The, the, the, the tune in link. You are going to give people a link for a free trial based on fan Service. It is SiriusXM.com Fanservice.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh my God. So hard to remember. You could see why I forgot.

[Unknown Casuals Member]

Simple as that.

[Katie Nolan]

All right. SiriusXM.com Fanservice if you want to set up a free trial or, I don't know, find. I think it gives you my home phone number. Just go there and check it out and I love you and I mean it. And we'll see you next week. Enjoy your weekend. Bye.

[Brady]

Go Pates.

[Katie Nolan]

Go Pates.

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[Katie Nolan]

All right.

[Chris]

Un. Welcome to McDonald's. Can I take your order, miss?

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[Katie Nolan]

What's a snack wrap?

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