Field Hockey, Bleaching It, and End-of-the-World Smokes | with Beth Stelling

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan

Episode: Field Hockey, Bleaching It, and End-of-the-World Smokes | with Beth Stelling
Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan
Guest: Beth Stelling

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Casuals centers on the intersection of sports and comedy, with an emphasis on women’s field hockey through the lens of comedian (and surprisingly competitive player) Beth Stelling. Katie, Beth, and friends explore competitiveness later in life, authenticity in sports (and in comedy), the peculiarities of sports fandom, and moments of cultural oddity from the week in sports and beyond. The conversation bounces between serious discussion and irreverent banter—delivering both laughs and thoughtful takes on what it means to be a fan, an athlete, or just someone trying to keep up with it all.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sports World Oddities & Hot Takes (00:41–16:13)

• Guinness World Record in Sweden: The crew jokes about a man who shoved 81 matches up his nose, sparking confessions about childhood shenanigans.
  • “Just 'cause you can do it doesn’t mean you should.” – Isabella (01:46)
  • Katie shares a story about shoving a bead up her nose as a kid, setting the “laugh so you don’t cry” tone for the show.
• Upcoming Holiday Episode: Katie announces a Thanksgiving episode featuring stars of the new Hallmark football romance, Holiday Touchdown: A Bills Love Story (05:00–05:08).
  • Fun clip: the cast shares about Buffalo tailgates and bowling ball shots.
  • “It’s fun when rom-coms look over at sports and acknowledge that we’re here too.” – Katie (05:25)
• Luis Rubiales “Egged” Scandal: Katie revisits the controversy over the ex–Spanish Soccer Federation head and his public humiliation—“His own uncle threw an egg at him” (06:36).
• Rapid-fire Sports & Culture Updates: Brief mentions of Bryce Harper’s new look (“he was a raw milk guy”), Justin Herbert’s surprise brother, fake Matthew McConaughey-for-governor rumors, and odd viral moments.
• NFLPA Report Cards Debate: Katie gets fired up about the NFL trying to halt player “report cards” rating team facilities (15:57–16:14).
  • “Get your effing facilities up to snuff ... quit bitching, get good!” – Katie (16:14)

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2. Guest Deep Dive: Beth Stelling (22:15–60:57)

Comedy, Career, & Relatability

• Beth’s Comedy Specials: Landlord Special (YouTube), Girl Daddy (HBO), If You Didn’t Want Me Then (releasing on YouTube, Dec 18).
  • “If you follow me and I reach millions of followers, maybe I’ll get another special someday … that I don’t have to pay for and put on YouTube.” – Beth (72:19)
• The State of Standup: Both lament the pressure on comedians to create crowdwork clips for social media, burning material, and the tricky transition of “short clip funny” to full-hour acts (34:08–37:14).
  • “I personally don’t love crowd work … but I get why people do it for the internet.” – Beth (37:14)
  • “Every set is a wave over a rock … it’s getting smoother and smoother.” – Beth (62:00)

Field Hockey - New Beginnings and Lifelong Competition

• Beth as Athlete: Surprising to many, Beth plays field hockey competitively in her late 30s for the US Women’s Masters—while balancing her comedy career.
  • “I could get popped in the face and then have to perform.” – Beth (25:46)
  • “I started in 3rd grade … now playing for the US Women’s Masters.” (27:00–28:17)
  • “Ideally into my 60s and 70s.” (38:22) on how long she’ll keep playing
• On Not Playing D1: Beth chose theatre over college field hockey, but acknowledges her skills might have carried her; she was all-Ohio in high school (29:23–30:02).
  • “I think you’re probably good. I think you could probably do it.” – Katie (29:23)
• Field Hockey 101: Explains the game's similarities to soccer over ice hockey, re: field positions, sticks, and physicality (29:54–32:01).
• Team Experience vs. Youth: Insights on how experience and mental acuity can, at times, outplay youth and speed in sports (44:07–45:47).
  • “Sometimes that can win over youth and strength and speed.” – Beth (45:40)
• Watching Tape: Beth reflects on how watching herself play is “brutal,” but also invaluable for self-improvement (57:58–60:13).
  • “This is a good advertisement for watching tape.” – Katie (60:09)
  • “I’m a pinball machine in a lot of ways … but if I was able to maybe watch more and see myself, I would have fixed things sooner.” – Beth (59:15)

Late-Blooming Competitiveness (42:12–45:47)

• Beth and Katie discuss the phenomenon of athletes peaking and intensely competing well into their thirties and forties, with Beth describing how she achieved her “best shape of [her] life” just last year at 40.

The Matson Controversy: Team USA Field Hockey (54:57–60:33)

• UNC’s Erin Matson was denied a late tryout for Team USA before the 2024 Olympics. Beth, surprised by the story, feels it's likely the right call for chemistry, fairness, and team prep.
  • “You can drop a star in, but if the team’s been training together, it matters.” – Beth (60:34)

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Bonus Segments & Pop Culture

Sports Fan Life, Tickets, & Parking Woes

• Story about throwing out a first pitch with her mom—leading to classic family fights over parking (52:19–53:39).
  • “It shouldn’t be that way … kids should go free to a baseball game.” – Katie (53:49)

Dodgers and Baseball Fandom

(48:28–50:56)

• Beth is a casual but real Dodgers fan, stayed up for an 18-inning World Series classic.
  • “You stayed up for all the innings… and you’re gonna say you’re not a fan.” – Katie (49:15)

Smoking, Soda, and End-of-the-World Smokes (40:40–42:07)

• Beth and Katie joke about old vices making a comeback, specifically Camel Crushes and soda, and what cigarettes might mean at the end of the world.
  • “If we’re both finding out we only have a few [days], I just want to make sure we got cigarettes.” – Katie (41:53)

Bill Belichick's New Girlfriend and Cheerleading (64:19–70:09)

• Katie recounts Belichick, post-NFL, dating a 27-year-old competitive cheerleader and attending her adult cheer competition, resulting in anecdotal jokes and a critique of modern cheerleading aesthetics.
  • “It’s uncanny valley because it’s adult cheer, but they look like toddlers in tiaras.” – Katie (66:49)
  • “Could be her dad. Could be her grandpa.” – Beth (69:18)

“Bleaching It” & The State of Reality TV (75:56–76:21)

• The pair riff on the pressure women face on reality TV to appear flawless, pushing extreme beauty standards.
  • “When you have a microscope in your anus, yeah, you’d start bleaching your butt too.” – Beth (75:57)

Reality TV & Representation (73:20–75:00)

• Beth highlights themes from reality TV: skin journeys, trauma expression, and LGBTQ+ inclusion in Utah.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On crowdwork and internet comedy:
  “There’s a lot of people that show up that don’t have an act because they're popular for their short videos … I’m not trying to put value on one or the other.” — Beth, (35:17)

• On field hockey and aging:
  “Ideally into my 60s and 70s.” — Beth, on how long she hopes to keep playing (38:24)

• On parking at games:
  “It should all be free. Let people take their family. Kids should go free to a baseball game.” — Katie (53:49)

• On competitive drive in later life:
  “There’s something to be said about brain power as you get older … sometimes that can win over youth and speed.” — Beth (43:53–45:40)

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Important Timestamps & Sections

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:41 | Kicking off with Guinness World Records oddity | | 05:00 | Hallmark “Bills Love Story” movie preview; Buffalo tailgating | | 06:36 | The Luis Rubiales “egged” incident & family conflict at holidays | | 09:32 | Heated Rivals: Spicy hockey romance novel, crossover fandom | | 16:14 | NFL vs. Players’ Report Cards Rant | | 22:22 | Beth Stelling joins: comedy specials & credits | | 27:00 | Beth’s field hockey trajectory, club life, Masters competition | | 38:22 | Competing at 40+: Inspiration and concerns | | 44:07 | Wisdom/experience vs. youth in sports | | 54:57 | Erin Matson/Team USA Olympics “snub” controversy discussion | | 62:00 | On crafting comedy and the pain of watching yourself perform | | 66:02 | Belichick’s cheerleader girlfriend “adult cheer” segment | | 73:20 | Reality TV, representation, and “skin journeys” | | 75:56 | Pressure on appearance in reality TV, “bleaching it” |

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Summary Table: Beth Stelling “Cheat Sheet”

• Field Hockey: Started in 3rd grade, US Masters, defender (loves “flow state”), best shape ever in her 40s.
• Comedy: Landlord Special (YouTube), Girl Daddy (HBO), If You Didn’t Want Me Then (YouTube Dec 18), Standups (Netflix).
• Hot Takes: Kids should go free to ballgames, crowdwork is overrated, experience sometimes beats youth in sports, and “End-of-the-world cigarettes” are real.
• Pop Culture: Watches Mormon Housewives, comments on real-life and reality TV controversies
• Socials: @BethStelling

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For New Listeners: Why Tune In?

This episode delivers a perfect mix of genuine sports passion and comic relief—whether you’re a lifelong fan or a genuine “casual.” Beth Stelling is a revelation as both a comic and a late-blooming athlete; you’ll learn about field hockey’s quirks, reminisce about tailgates gone wrong, and laugh at how the sports world overlaps, sometimes awkwardly, with real life. Plus: cheeky (and sometimes profound) takes on the NFL, Hallmark movies, and the pain of self-perfection in comedy and sport.

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Further Listening

• Beth's picks: Look up "Beth Stelling Melbourne International Comedy Festival" or her 2017 Netflix Standups half hour for a definitive intro.
• Upcoming: If You Didn’t Want Me Then (YouTube, Dec. 18), live at Bell House in Brooklyn.

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Final Word

Beth’s blend of candor, humility, and humor makes for a highly relatable and inspiring episode, no matter your relationship with sports. Katie and Beth together are a reminder that sometimes the best sports podcast is barely about sports at all—but about the joy and weirdness of living, competing, and laughing all the way through.

Transcript

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[Beth Stelling]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Beth Stelling]

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[Katie Nolan]

That means Italian leather bag. Your co workers unwrap their favorite beauty.

[Beth Stelling]

Brands, and your nephews the coolest new toys.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Beth Stelling]

At prices this good, you can grab something for yourself too.

[Katie Nolan]

Marshalls, we get the deals.

[Beth Stelling]

You gift the good stuff.

[Katie Nolan]

Shop [e-mail] or find a store near you. Hey, Isabella, did you see a man in Sweden inspired by his children, shoved eight matches up his nostrils? No. And earned a Guinness World Records title in the process. That's 81, Katie. What? Did I say eight. I only said eight. Who says eight when it's 81?

[Isabella]

81 matches.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry. He shoved 81 matches in his nose.

[Isabella]

Did he light something up?

[Beth Stelling]

I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

Did he? He didn't light him.

[Isabella]

Did he say his nostrils?

[Katie Nolan]

Can you imagine it smelling like hair? Because it's your nose. God, the smell of hair is the worst. Inspired by his children.

[Isabella]

What does that mean?

[Katie Nolan]

Does that do it too? I don't know. When I was a kid, I shoved a red bead up my nose. And it didn't inspire anybody, but made everybody mad at me. Because then I was trying to get it out, but my nose was bleeding. And so there was a lot of little red things coming out of my nose. And so we were trying to dig out. I had to go to the hospital. My grandmother was upset with me.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm scared.

[Katie Nolan]

But this guy got a Guinness World record.

[Isabella]

Just cause you can do it doesn't mean you should.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, who knows? Maybe he just likes the way it smells.

[Isabella]

Ew.

[Katie Nolan]

Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that does its best to keep you entertained. We talk a little bit about sports, but mostly we're just here to laugh and have a good time. Cause everything's on fire, you know? Doesn't it sometimes feel like everything's on fire?

[Isabella]

Like that man's nose.

[Katie Nolan]

That's exactly. With that many matches, all eight to 81. Which honestly, if you could get eight in there and it sticks, that's impressive. I got small nose holes. I'm a little insecure. About them. I don't think I could get 81 in there. There'd be a lot of. I hate to say it, folks, but gaping necessary.

[Isabella]

Can you.

[Beth Stelling]

Can you show your.

[Isabella]

Can you widen your nostrils right now? Let me see.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't do the thing where I do that on command, but if I were. No. What. Why are you making me so insecure? I'm about to host a podcast.

[Isabella]

I mean, don't worry. That's not something you need to be confident about.

[Katie Nolan]

Nope. Now I don't think I can do it. I didn't realize I struck a nerve with this story.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, gosh.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I'm sorry. It's the. It's really staying with me. That's the. Those are the casualties. We're not gonna. We got a guest today. Beth Stelling is here. We're gonna get to her in a little bit. We're gonna keep it quick. Up top. I know, I know. I say that all the time, but we're really gonna do that this time. If you want to reach us Casuals with katie [e-mail], our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. A quick bit of housekeeping as an announcement. I know other podcasts, some would say lesser podcasts, but not me. All podcasts are equal in my eyes. Some podcasts don't put out episodes on a holiday. We are. Now, we understand you as a listener are busy on Thanksgiving and you might not have anything. You might have stuff to do and not have time to listen. So that's okay. But we will be dropping a brand new episode on Thanksgiving. On Thanksgiving. So make sure that you download and listen on your drive to or from seeing the family. We're going to help you survive the holidays or just make a holiday you're already enjoying. Like, that's. It's already great. We're gonna make it even better. We just recorded it. It's a fun. Sit down. We got the two stars of the new. Remember last year they did a Hallmark football NFL football Christmas movie. It was Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, but not really. It was like kind of their story, but dramatized or whatever. Now they're doing another holiday touchdown movie. This one's called A Bill's Love Story. It comes out this weekend. It comes out this weekend, Brady. Yes. Saturday. Right. So it'll be out on Saturday, but we recorded with them yesterday. Here's a little snippet we talked to them about. It's A story of Bill's fans falling in love. It's not about. So don't think it's about Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld, which is what we originally thought. But it's a cute little holiday movie. It's a Hallmark movie. If you know the genre, then you know what I mean. But it's about Bill's fans that. That fall in love with each other. Their names were Holland and Matthew. They came by. They're the stars. Matthew Daddario and Holland Roden. Here is a quick clip from that interview. So there's a catch a mustard guy. And right next to the catch a mustard guy is a bowling ball shot at the. At the tailgate, which is normal for the Buffalo Bills. A shot out of a buff. Out of a bowling ball.

[Beth Stelling]

Every time you take the shot.

[Katie Nolan]

Cuz it's the same bowling ball.

[Brady]

Throw the bowling ball on the ground.

[Beth Stelling]

Into the mud and the next person.

[Katie Nolan]

Takes the shot off and there's no.

[Beth Stelling]

Cleaning process so you got to wipe out your mouth. There's a mud. And then some lovely people told me.

[Brady]

That they got strep from it.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean. And that's the clip we chose. It's. I didn't know about the bowling ball shot. I knew about, you know, the tables, the ketchup, the mustard, all of the Bills pre game. But they became intimately familiar with it. And. And it's just fun. It's fun when like romance rom coms. It's fun when it looks over at sports and acknowledges that we're here too. I think that's sweet.

[Beth Stelling]

Brady.

[Katie Nolan]

What you wanted to say something.

[Brady]

Just pissed off at how handsome that guy was.

[Katie Nolan]

He's very.

[Brady]

And then I saw like the photo today Isabella sends and he's like, oh, and he's also like 6 foot 8. Like go to hell.

[Katie Nolan]

But yeah, he's tall and he's handsome. She's also very pretty. It's a sweet story. It's called Holiday Touchdown. A Bill's Love story. Premiere Saturday, November 22nd on Hallmark Channel. And then afterwards you can stream it on Hallmark Plus. So that will be coming on Thursday. We also did a little casualties thing up top. But if I were being honest with myself in the, in the true nature of, you know, Beth Stelling today, she's also like this. I don't love how the beginning of the episode. I don't know that I brought my best so. But there is. We talk about Thanksgiving. I made Isabella choose which pie she likes the most without realizing that like pies are very near and dear to her heart. And it was basically like making her choose between her children. Yeah, so it was. But look, we made you something so that you have something so that you know if you can't get home or if you've got spare time or if your family's just driving you up a GD wall and you need a break. We made a little show. So that will be coming your way down the pike, as they say on Thursday.

[Beth Stelling]

Thursday.

[Katie Nolan]

What else? I have a list of stuff here that's called stuff to write that isn't yet written. It's been a busy week, as you can tell. We've pre taped things. We've got a lot going on at Pat Noswal on the radio show today, which was absolutely awesome and so much fun. But these are like little ideas that have been coming to me. I just want to make sure we're getting these stories out here in the world. I realized we never talked about Luis Rubialis getting egged. Now, he was the. I don't know his official title. He was like the head of the Spanish soccer federation that was fired and actually found guilty in court after he kissed Jenny Hermoso. After the women, the Spanish women's team won the World Cup. If you didn't know this story. They won the World Cup. And then, you know, they always have the guys and the women, but mostly the guys who work in like the federation are up on the stage to handle the trophy and give the speeches, et cetera, et cetera. And this man planted a kiss on a woman who had just won the World Cup, a kiss she didn't ask for. And everybody asked him about it. And he was like, yeah, that's a thing we do. We're always kissing each other. And Jenny was like, it's actually not a thing we do. And I hated it. It actually made me really uncomfortable. I don't know how the Spanish courts work, but I know this went to it. And he was found guilty of it and is. And now he's doing his whole I'm canceled tour. He has written a book. He was unfairly treated by the system. And while he was doing his little book tour, his little book promo, telling us about the little story that he wrote about how life's not fair to him. He got egged. Is very satisfying. Now, please, I'm not advocating for any sort of violence. Please don't throw projectiles at people who are out on book tours. But it turns out the guy who threw the egg was his own uncle. Oh, shit. And so that I do want to Encourage. As we're on the eve of a holiday known for family conflict. I guess what I'm saying. If you could post your family conflict on Maine like that for us. If we weren't into your. If your uncle happened to be somebody who sexually harassed a World cup champion as she accepted her trophy. Throw an egg at him in public for us. If you could pass the egg. What else has happened that I wanted to make sure we. I'm reading this. There was a story in the cut about women who date men who gamble. I have it printed out. I want to read it so badly, but I have not read it yet, so we'll be. We should be talking about that. And then a quick update on heated rivalry. A. A gay novel. Erotic novel is what it's called.

[Isabella]

Maybe.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. I think she actually describes it on the tie, on the COVID as a spicy novel. I don't know if that's what we're calling it. It. I'm reading it. I'm reading it. It's not my usual genre, and I have to go slowly. Don't judge me for that. It's.

[Brady]

Can you read it on a train? That's where we start to change.

[Katie Nolan]

I got to make the font small enough that nobody else could accidentally read what I'm reading if I'm gonna read it on train. It's just how I feel. It's just how I am. I' Everybody needs to be this way. And I'm not shaming you if you're into this type of literature. It's not a book I'm used to reading, but when I heard there was a crossover between a very traditionally female audience and hockey, I'm like, I need to get in on this. I need to better understand an influx of fans that may be coming in now. Hockey is having a difficult time right now. I would say it has. Maybe we're in a fraught period for female fans, given some stuff that's happened. And also a bit of a fraught period for any LGBTQIA plus fans. Things are a little fraught. And so the collision of these cultures is fascinating to me. But I need to be taking a detailed and responsible look at it. So I think I'm probably not gonna finish reading the book. Cause I'm finding that's not gonna make me better at getting whatever point I'm trying to make across. But I'm trying not to bail just because I can't hear a cock described to me any more times. You know what I mean? It's just And I love cock. It's just I've.

[Isabella]

Was the hawk stick used as a comparison?

[Katie Nolan]

Not yet. Not yet. I'm early, though. It's early days. And how long is the book? It's longer than you would think it. And so I don't know how many pages. I have a Kindle. I'm reading it on a Kindle, so I'm not like dealing with its heft all the time. But it was cheaper. Ish. Cheaper than a book usually is for me on my Kindle. But I do believe it's more pages than you would think.

[Brady]

I feel like they break out penalty box as a metaphor, like at an important time.

[Katie Nolan]

They may. They may. I just have a lot of descriptions of the various ways that hair falls on a man's body on the different parts that it tends to fall. So once I get through all of.

[Brady]

That, it's very Doc Emmerich. Like all the. All the montages of how many ways Doc Emmerich can talk about how to pass a puck. Passes it, shovels it shuffles it sends it delivers enough.

[Katie Nolan]

I do think many people would read this book and think it's very Doc Emmerich. Especially because I think I famously had the only sports media co host who once put Doc Emmerich in her hall passes. And we won't be revisiting that, as I know it's something that embarrasses Ashley very much, but she did technically say if she could have sex with someone outside of her marriage. Doc Emmerich was in the. We were only doing three. We weren't deep into a list. We were in the top three, I think. And she said Doc Emmerich. By the way, she's getting honored if you did listen to sports. My old podcast, I try not to bring it up. I don't want you guys to get upset. My new. My new loves.

[Brady]

But tattooed it on herself.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm seeing Ashley this weekend because she's being. She got. She's being awarded with like a 40 under 40 and there's like a whole big award ceremony for her black tie. So I had to rent a GD dress and see a bunch of people I probably don't want to see who work at sports media, but for Ashley, I would do anything. So shout out to all of our former sports listeners. I will be seeing Ashley this week. I'll try to. I've been trying to get her on the podcast since we had the podcast and I don't want to push because if I push, she'll bail. So I Just keep reminding her that the door is open and the seat is empty and that she can come back whenever she wants to. Very busy and important. She works at Omaha now. Other things that have come up. Bryce Harper looks different. I didn't know he was a raw milk guy. And that's been coming up a bit in. In discussions of this in his off season. He looks very different. He. I saw a picture of him that made me go, that's Bryce Harper. Has anyone else of the casualties bumped into a Bryce Harper picture recently? Different, right?

[Brady]

Yeah, he's a giant mustache, so.

[Katie Nolan]

Right, right. But he just looks a little different, body type wise. I don't know. Just looks different. Just something I flagged on a list called little stuff with a number of check marks next to it. What else? I've got Justin Herbert's unknown brother, Mandela effect. Turns out Justin Herbert has a brother who plays football who also plays football in the NFL that no one had ever heard of until this week because they were playing his team. What team does he play for?

[Brady]

Jacksonville.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. And they were playing him and they got his opinion, and we all saw his face on video and went, he looks just like Justin Herbert. When did this happen? Sounds like Justin Herbert. And he sounds. How has this not come up? We are being Mandela affected. I also wrote Matthew McConaughey for governor, but turns out that was a hoax. It was a viral campaign for some sort of a. Something that he's working on. Somebody took a picture of a stage set up that had, like, him running for governor.

[Brady]

You can't fake gubernatorial runs in 2025, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Can you? Guber, update me on Fine Bomb. Is he actually running? Because I heard it mentioned on sports. I heard it mentioned somewhere recently.

[Brady]

It's because Paul says he won't make a decision until the end of college football season.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, what does that mean? Wouldn't that be too late? When is the seat being decided? When's the.

[Brady]

Nothing makes sense. There's no rules for anything.

[Katie Nolan]

I know Hitler has a micro penis. That's also on my list. It's on my list. It was a tweet. Look, I barely interact on Twitter anymore, but I ran into a tweet so moving. I had to retweet it. It was from.

[Brady]

Oh, that one time you run into a tweet about Hitler.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Well, it was CBS News, and they said, hey. New researchers from a documentary that they're working on called I Believe Hitler's DNA found that he may have had a syndrome that has led him to Have a micro penis. And I just thought if there was ever information everybody needed to know about the guy, that's it. So just wanted everyone to have that. Now, what else is on this list? That maybe people with Disney and YouTube TV came to an agreement. We never. We never updated that. That worked. Has everybody gotten their. Their stuff back?

[Beth Stelling]

Yep. Got everything back.

[Katie Nolan]

Got my $20 as well.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, wow.

[Katie Nolan]

Good job. You guys. Take them for everything they'll offer. You gotta do it. Those kids. That ACC hoops were tough. That's right. You got it. That's right. That's what we all were thinking. Those two weeks without ACC hoops were really tough, but we got through them, and we're better because of it. All right. That's mostly it. I think those are all of our updates. There's a lot on here. It's not mostly it, but I'm looking at Brady's face and I'm knowing we're trying to hit times on these things. So those are my big. Right. Those are my big news stories. There's nothing else that I haven't gotten to. We got the egged. He got egged. Will do the cut. Gambling.

[Brady]

That's it. That's all events that have occurred, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, the NFL trying to get rid of report cards. They want the NFLPA to stop putting out. Remember how we covered those? Where, like, the players are asked and they get to say, like. They get to say, like, oh, the facilities at this place suck. Well, now the NFL is trying to petition. He. It says that he. I just said the NFL.

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He.

[Katie Nolan]

He says that the NFL. That it's a violation of their collective bargaining agreement where it allows players to publicly disparage the league, which they're not supposed to be allowed to do. So don't. We're not allowed to put these out anymore. And that is the most soft BS I've ever heard in my life. Get your effing facilities up to snuff for these professional athletes, and then they won't have to tell people that you're. That you don't offer any sort of childcare. Like, get good is what we would say in video game language. Quit bitching. Get good. Fix it. That's super. I wrote down. That's super embarrassing to me, which is funny. If you had told me when I was younger that I would be against that, I would be pro report card. I'd be like, no chance. I hate that. That's the worst day of the year. I bring it home. I got to figure out how to tell my mom that they're not all a pluses. I used to get in trouble for bees. Also, if you told me that I would grow up and being like, guys, we have to be getting our vaccines. Another stance I would never have believed. Fearful of needles, Katie was taking up. And I really resent the world for making me come out here and advocate for report cards and vaccines because adults can't handle doing it themselves. But anyway, that's everything we needed to get to. Let's get to our guests today. Beth Stelling is one of the first guests we booked on this podcast. She just wasn't gonna be in New York for a while. So this name has been circled on the calendar. We've been counting down to this day with a bit of fear in the back of our minds, if we're being honest, casualties that something would come up because she's a very funny woman who was also still in her 30s playing field hockey. She's an athlete. She's got more than one thing she's gotta do. And anything could have come up, but it didn't. She's here. We're so excited. She is a comedian. She's a writer. She wrote on HBO's Crashing. I know a lot of people really love that. I'm one of those people. I am people. She also wrote for Prime Videos, Red Oaks. She's got a bunch of comedy specials. I think we get into this a little bit. So I won't drown you in all of it, but the Landlord special is available on YouTube. And if you didn't want me then, which is her Netflix special that is off of Netflix now, will be up on her YouTube in December, she said. So if you go to her YouTube, you can find that. Also if you're in town this weekend, she's at the Bell House in Brooklyn on the 21st and the 22nd.

[Isabella]

And.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's. Those are all her credits. Right? I'm checking all of her boxes. I just love her so much. She's so funny. She's such a good comic. And she's really good at field hockey, which I think she might be that the comic that is good at field hockey. I don't want to discount everybody else. And I've never seen Dan on the field, honestly, and I don't want to count him out. But this is her niche and we love her for it. Okay, so we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, Beth Stelling. We talk about the Dodgers, we talk about field hockey, all of it, but a quick break. And we'll be right back. As the air turns crisp and the holidays draw near, comfort becomes the best gift of all. Quint delivers layers that last sweaters, outerwear and everyday essentials that feel luxurious, look timeless and make holiday dressing and gifting effortless. They have it all. Quints $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters made for everyday wear. They've got denim that never goes out of style and down outerwear built to take on the season. I have gotten from Quint a number of things that I like, but the that probably makes the most sense to tell you about right now is that 100% organic cotton fisherman crew sweater. I love that sweater. It's like a multi season sweater. You can make it a fall sweater or a winter sweater. It could even be a like summer nights sweater. So step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished and last. From Quint. You can gift them or you can just keep them for yourself. Go to quint.comcasuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. It's available in Canada now too. Q-U-I-N C E.comcasuals to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quint.com Most holiday gifts end up in a drawer, let's be honest, or the back of your closet or, I don't know, accidentally left at your cousin's house. But not this one. Mint Mobile is offering unlimited premium wireless for 15amonth. That's their best deal of the year, aka the only holiday gift you'll actually use every single day. All Mint plans come with high speed data in unlimited talk and text on the nation's largest 5G network. Don't get them socks. They don't want those. Get them premium wireless for 15amonth. Shop Mint Unlimited [e-mail] casuals that's mintmobile.com casuals. There's an e on the end of mobile, in case you didn't know that. Limited time offer upfront payment of 45 for 3 months, $90 for 6 months or 180 for 12 months. Plan required 15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra initial plan term Only greater than 35 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. Capable device required availability, speed and coverage varies. See mintmobile.com for details. Our HBCUs have a legacy that's straight up golden, and McDonald's is proud to help keep it that way. Since 2021, the Golden Arches has connected with the Thurgood Marshall College fund to provide $1 million in scholarships for students headed to our HBCUs. That kind of cash helps keep bright minds on the yard dreams within reach and the future golden. Learn more about McDonald's Black and Positively Golden Scholarships at mcdblackscholars.com Bob Evans Creamy.

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[Katie Nolan]

Beth Stelling, an amazing comedian. What should I direct people to of yours that they can experience?

[Beth Stelling]

I'm actually Bruce Valanche on Hollywood Squares. I just. Okay. I have a YouTube special that I put out a couple months ago called the Landlord Special.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Beth Stelling]

And then December 18th is when I'm re releasing my Netflix special, if youf Didn't Want me then on YouTube, which is so good.

[Katie Nolan]

I had a chance to watch it when it was on Netflix. It just, it really speaks to where your industry. I don't know what's going on and we won't spend a lot of time talking about it, but I do experience it from the passenger seat and a lot of times I'm like, what is going on? But it was on Netflix for whatever reason and now it's yours and you get to put it up and get views. So that comes when? December 18th. Okay. So head on a swivel, everybody. Put it in your calendar. That's less. That's exactly a month out. Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

Right. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So keep an eye out.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm sorry, I'm still laughing at me. I took a clip out and as I was taking the clip out of my hair, Katie goes, no, because.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And it's mostly an audio podcast. But just to explain, she had a clip that was like, I could never pull it off. You have voluminous, very curly, very beautiful hair. There's a clip on the top of her head that was given a cute little almost like a pigtail vibe, like a ponytail y vibe.

[Beth Stelling]

It's too late.

[Katie Nolan]

And then she took it out, but it was just sort of your hair stayed in the pile and that. I was like, well, we can't do that. We've got to either go put the clip in or the. But it looks cute now. It's cute now. Can you put her solo in here. Isabella. So she can see up close what she looks like. So she can fix. There we go. And then you can however you want to. Just. I think it's nice. You don't like it. You hate it.

[Beth Stelling]

I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

We can cut this part out audio wise.

[Beth Stelling]

You don't have to cut anything.

[Katie Nolan]

Just leave it.

[Beth Stelling]

Except for my hair.

[Katie Nolan]

I've needed a haircut so bad.

[Beth Stelling]

Here's the thing. I always come up. I get a lot of men calling me Carrot Top when I do a podcast, but I don't really have red hair.

[Katie Nolan]

No. I think they mean more.

[Beth Stelling]

I think they're just trying to hurt me.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I think so. I think so. They find new and different ways on the Internet.

[Beth Stelling]

Does it matter?

[Katie Nolan]

Not to me. I think it looks nice. I envy this.

[Beth Stelling]

Let's go.

[Katie Nolan]

I want to be a curly girl. I'm on curly girl hair TikTok. Just because I'm fascinated by the steps.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. I just think, well, the steps are zero. But that's the nice part about it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I could never.

[Beth Stelling]

It depends on where you are in the shower cycle. Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Yeah. And where are you?

[Beth Stelling]

I did shower yesterday.

[Katie Nolan]

Congrats.

[Beth Stelling]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

I think I did, too. But it may have been two days.

[Beth Stelling]

Ago, but I flew here, so I had to shower. I had to get that plain sloth off.

[Katie Nolan]

You're here for comedy or you're here for.

[Beth Stelling]

You're here for you. Yes, of course.

[Katie Nolan]

And she. And we're covering that flight.

[Beth Stelling]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

Brady's gonna write a check.

[Beth Stelling]

Thank you so much.

[Katie Nolan]

Out of his personal. But you have show in Brooklyn.

[Beth Stelling]

That's right. The Bell House. Friday and Saturday.

[Katie Nolan]

And everybody should go to that because. Great venue, great comic.

[Beth Stelling]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

But you also are here doing field hockey. So which came first?

[Beth Stelling]

Well, no, I'm not playing here.

[Katie Nolan]

You're not?

[Beth Stelling]

Brady.

[Katie Nolan]

Brady said she's playing field hockey and then doing comedy at night.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, I guess I missed it if it was last. Cause there's a pickup game and Greenwich field hockey has a pickup game. But it's like Tuesdays, I think, maybe Thursdays.

[Katie Nolan]

And that will be taken care of.

[Beth Stelling]

There are times where I do go to a city and I play hockey and then I do comedy at night.

[Katie Nolan]

That's wild to me. That's a full day of two very disparate talents that you carry. Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

It comes with a risk. I could get popped in the face and then have to perform. It does. There's no way to avoid some, like, you know, stupid joke about, like, if you see a woman with a black eye. We can't have anything else other than like a guy hit us. It's not fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

I should come up with something better. Well, it was actually a woman that hit me.

[Katie Nolan]

And so actually you're being bigoted. What is, energy wise, is where I go. I could not play a sporting event. And then probably period at the end of that, a full sentence. And then also. But go and do comedy at night. Aren't you tired? Question number one, Beth Stelling. Aren't you tired?

[Beth Stelling]

I'm always tired. Here's the thing about me and field hockey and sports. I don't love. I'm not someone who, like, loves to run. Never have field hockey. To me, it's like the carrot dangling in front of the horse around the track. I have to have a game or a competitive situation.

[Katie Nolan]

Or your own exercise.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, yeah. And playing for the US Women's Masters team the last two years and touring, you have to try out every year. This year was difficult for me to try out because I had booked so much standup.

[Katie Nolan]

Because your success was getting in the way.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, I was choosing field hockey over standup for a while.

[Katie Nolan]

Actually.

[Beth Stelling]

The pickup games around LA are at night and standup is obviously at night. So I could play Tuesday nights and Thursday nights pickup games. And then a couple times I would be able to fit both in. I'd be showing up to the show, sweaty, wild, in biker shorts. That's actually a new bit of mine that came out of that. Some girls were heckling me because I was in biker shorts and I have a tank ass and I love my butt. But yeah, a nice little bit came out of that. Me performing in biker shorts.

[Katie Nolan]

Did they say tank ass or did you say.

[Beth Stelling]

That was actually my. It runs the family. That was my sister's nickname in high school.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy wild to be so blessed. You've played field hockey your whole life?

[Beth Stelling]

I started in third grade.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Beth Stelling]

And that was on the gym floor of the West Gym, the one they didn't care about. But it was. Yeah, third grade. And that makes it very, like indoor. Makes a very quick game. So then we moved to grass. Because I'm a witch. I started with a wooden stick.

[Katie Nolan]

Now they're not wooden sticks anymore.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, I feel you could probably purchase one. Yes. I think that's. And then around it is like a composite situation. There was a break.

[Katie Nolan]

It's probably like golf clubs in the sense it's like evolved a lot since I last touched them type of a deal.

[Beth Stelling]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

Like when I First showed up. So I played in third grade. Wooden stick. Played in junior high. On grass. High school on grass. And then I went to Miami University in Ohio. It was a D1 school. I've actually visited the team and been in touch, like, since I've got back into the master's program. I've gone back and watched them. They just made it to the Elite Eight. They were the Mac champions. Yes. Anyway. Sorry. They just. I was just watching them.

[Katie Nolan]

No good. What are you sorry for? We're talking about field games. That's okay. So you played in college?

[Beth Stelling]

I didn't.

[Katie Nolan]

No.

[Beth Stelling]

No. So I brought them up because that's where I was. I went D1 school, but I was also a theater major. So it was either like, wow. I couldn't really. It would have been very difficult to do both. Right. Waking up so early, rehearsals at night for theater.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a full time commitment to be.

[Beth Stelling]

And I'm not even saying I would've. I would've had to walk on. There would've been a lot of factors. I didn't plan on playing. Right. There was probably. We. I actually was the. We were the. We took our team in high school to state for the first time in, like, 26 years or something. So we had a great team and I was a good player. But I think there was definitely parts of me that doubted being able to make a D1 team.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm trying to figure out how much of it is you being humble and how much of it is like, you actually aren't as good. I think you're probably good. I think you could probably do it.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

But you. The comic in you is like, but me, who am I? I just stink. I'm just a girl.

[Beth Stelling]

I think it was part.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm just out here trying my best. Meanwhile, you're, like, leading league.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Beth Stelling]

I was in all Ohio, and I think there was part of me that, like.

[Katie Nolan]

Were you, like, a leading goal scorer?

[Beth Stelling]

What was your gender? I was gonna say, what's your fielder? In high school, actually. Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

And now if I. If I didn't fully know field hockey as well as I. I probably should.

[Beth Stelling]

Comparable to soccer.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. But not hockey. Right. So it's not similar to me.

[Beth Stelling]

It's more comparable to soccer, like, the mindset of the game than to ice hockey or something like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Because there's no, like, lines.

[Beth Stelling]

And of course, they have the same name. People only refer to ice hockey as, like, the real hockey. But ice hockey, you know, you play with.

[Katie Nolan]

It's upsetting. Evil voice. You're doing for ice hockey fans?

[Beth Stelling]

No, I. I like ice hockey.

[Katie Nolan]

Me too.

[Beth Stelling]

Living in Chicago when the Blackhawks were.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

Winning the Stanley cup was incredible. Very cool to watch those games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anywho, ice hockey, flat stick. You can play with both sides. It's puck. We're on ice. Right. I tried to play ice hockey in college, just intramural, just to see. Yeah, check it out.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so you were like an elite athlete because no one just tries to play hockey in college.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, it was like, you know, intramural.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Okay. I never tried. I enjoyed the game very much. And I was like, no, obviously.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, there was a thing called broom ball at Miami that was very popular. Miami University in Ohio. People love to.

[Katie Nolan]

It's insane. It is insane. It's called Miami and it's in Ohio. It's like, clearly very famous Miami, they're.

[Beth Stelling]

Very defensive about it because they have shirts that say, Miami was a university.

[Katie Nolan]

Before Florida was a state. I know. They get in my mentions and go, you should know that we did it. And that's great, but somebody else did it better. It's like when people do. And I'm sorry, but when they go. A swastika was traditionally a sign of peace. You go, right. And then something happened, and then it.

[Beth Stelling]

Took many left to death, and now.

[Katie Nolan]

We don't use it anymore. You know what I mean? So you're not the Miami anymore. But it is the way that it went. Wrong. But right.

[Beth Stelling]

Wrong turns.

[Katie Nolan]

You know what I mean? What were we even talking about to go back to? Okay. Either way, field hockey, how it works. So you're a defender. Is that very physical?

[Beth Stelling]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

You guys hit.

[Beth Stelling]

Here's the thing. We don't. It's not like a physical checking sport. Like ice hockey would be up against the.

[Katie Nolan]

But you bump into each other.

[Beth Stelling]

There's some bumping. Like there's moving people with your hip at of the circle. If you're a defender, that's a possibility.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't really have a tank ass. It feels like something you could use it to do.

[Beth Stelling]

I get. Yes. I'm very tall. I get very low.

[Katie Nolan]

Her resume, she's reading.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

And you like doing it?

[Beth Stelling]

I love it.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, do you get into a flow state?

[Beth Stelling]

I love it. There's definitely times where I'm the. I'm kind of. I'm. Is it an amnesiac? A word?

[Katie Nolan]

Probably.

[Beth Stelling]

There's things that happen in the game where I'm like, I don't know what happened.

[Katie Nolan]

You Blacked out.

[Beth Stelling]

You tell me.

[Katie Nolan]

You know who has told me this before? I don't know how big of a baseball fan you are, but Hunter Pence, who's like a. He was on the Giants. He's in their hall of Fame, the Ring of Fame. He's very popular. People like him. He's very good. He said he, like, when he plays, he'll just, like, kind of black out and just go. He, like, lets his body do it and his mind kind of deactivates and he's like, I'm very confused by this. I don't know if this is common and it seems like among elite athletes.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, I'm not an elite. I don't know. I'm like the only one on my master's team that didn't play in college.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, but you just said it's cause you didn't want to.

[Beth Stelling]

Well, I played.

[Katie Nolan]

It wasn't in your club.

[Beth Stelling]

I played club, so that was my first time really playing on turf. Right. And I only played a few games because of theater stuff. But I did get to play my sister who was at ou.

[Katie Nolan]

But it wasn't. Are you hearing me? It wasn't because you, like, tried and they said, not good enough. It was cause you went like, I'm so talented in two different ways, and this one's gonna be more important to me. You made a decision before most people had to hyping me up every day. You just have a lot going for you, and you opted for something else. And you're saying it like it discounts your talent, but I'm noticing that it doesn't. I think you're a good athlete who also happens to be not athlete funny, but funny, because there's a difference. And the difference drives me a little mad. And I wonder if it ever drives you.

[Beth Stelling]

I guess we're seeing the crossover now lately. What, with the rope?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, the roasts.

[Beth Stelling]

Although they have comics writing for them.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, they do, but they take all the credit, don't they? They just get right. And some people go like, look how funny they are. And you go, right, look how funny Nikki Glaser is through that person's mouth. But I don't know, there's, like, been a lot of people that are like, wow, he's so funny. And you're like, for an athlete, can we do that? Can we do, like, fur an athlete? Because I feel like. I don't know, sometimes I just get annoyed with the things that get propped up as comedy in sports when I'm.

[Beth Stelling]

Like, that's True, there is that. I think there's. I do like watching improv, but there is that aspect to it where you go, well, it's funny because they're coming up with it right now. That's impressive.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

Whereas I think stand up, like, it should be more harshly criticized because the truth is we're not typically. I mean, obviously there's this huge shift with crowd work, but typically we are writing.

[Katie Nolan]

We could definitely talk about that if you wanted, but it wasn't in the.

[Beth Stelling]

Mike Kaplan posted something pretty funny that was like, I guess a college he's performing at in their contract, or they just wrote him and said, hey, you don't do question and answer in your act, do you? Because we'd really rather you not do question and answer. And I haven't replied to him yet, but I'm been thinking about it since I saw it. He interpreted it as like, please don't do crowd work. I'm interpreting it as. There's a lot of people that show up that don't have an act because they're popular for their short videos and I don't want to, like, discredit them. They're still funny, but like this TikTok idea of being very funny in short clips or even vine versus a standup that is going to show up with an hour act. I'm not trying to put value on one or the other. I'm the other guy. The second one.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one who shows up with an hour act.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes, I have the.

[Katie Nolan]

That you've honed over time.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes, you can come. And ideally, the goal would be to enjoy me for an hour.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, please have your way with me.

[Beth Stelling]

I prepared something for you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, please sit and enjoy.

[Beth Stelling]

That's how I interpreted it. And it could be either one. I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

But to me it's like, hey, we're hiring you because we think you're funny and you're gonna come up, you're gonna be funny. Right. For an hour and not do like, you know, not make our. And then be like, any questions.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And that does seem to be a. But that's happened a lot trend that's happening. And I. I understand the, you know, environmental factors that led to that being the thing because in order to. I mean, now again, we said we weren't gonna get into. But I do feel like a lot of what the opportunities you can get. And this is true for TV stuff as well. I'm pointing like I'm on it. I'm not anymore. But like, you have to almost bring your own audience in order to book the gig. Whereas it used to be like you book the gig, or at least used to. Who knows if it really was? But the idea was you booked the gig based on the talent, or I guess maybe you could say connections some people would have. And then you would provide the service that would bring in the views. And now it's like you've got have your own. And the best way to have your own is to have short, digestible clips that you put online that can go far and people can go, this person's funny when they come to my town, I'm going to buy tickets. The problem for a standup, I imagine, is if you are doing the traditional way, which is honing an hour over a period of time, you don't want to burn, quote, unquote, one of your jokes. Because then why would somebody watch the hour that you eventually film and put on in its final form? Because they've already seen that joke circulate on TikTok. And so crowd work could be something you could do instead. That's like, shows people I'm funny without burning one of my jokes. But then what it leads to is people watching crowd work, comedians and then are like, I could do that. And then they do just that. And not the craft. I'm just talking at you. Let me find.

[Beth Stelling]

No, no, I was on thoughts. No, I think that, that also, like, as someone, I personally don't love crowd work. I've had times, of course, in my act, in 18 years of doing standup, where I've reacted in a funny way, in the moment to something that's happening. People, you know, I can't think of a specific example, but like, well, I don't know. I've definitely had someone pass out in my crowd. Not just alcohol, but like. And we've had to deal with it. And later I've had people come up and be like, I remember that time when you came to Denver and you handled that so well. And I'm like, I have no recollection of it whatsoever, but thank goodness I did. And I'm sure it was funny, but I didn't then post it online for you to enjoy. I don't know, I just, I get overwhelmed when someone sends me photos, like a Dropbox of photos after a festival. And I, you know, so I would love to be like, thank you for the fest and then post these cool pictures and then tag the right person. But it's exhausting.

[Katie Nolan]

It's just a little exhausting. And you Have a field hockey game to go play. You gotta go play. I gotta go get some aggression. I am late. If I miss practice, I gotta run suicides. And I can't be doing that as I age. How long are you gonna be playing field hockey for, you think?

[Isabella]

What's the.

[Beth Stelling]

Ideally into my 60s and 70s.

[Katie Nolan]

Are you being serious?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

That's insane. No.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm worried a little bit about my knee lately.

[Katie Nolan]

Just the one. Couldn't be both?

[Beth Stelling]

No.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

I don't know if I don't think anything happened, but yeah, I just. The brief period of time that I did have health insurance through my job.

[Katie Nolan]

What a time.

[Beth Stelling]

I probably could have used it better.

[Katie Nolan]

You think that after. And you go, wow, I really should have been seeing a dog.

[Beth Stelling]

But I wasn't used to it.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Beth Stelling]

And so then I didn't. I still.

[Katie Nolan]

And then you lose it and you.

[Beth Stelling]

Go, it's even me with, like, earning, like, points and status on an airline. I'm like, well, I don't deserve to be in the lounge. I have all kinds of issues.

[Katie Nolan]

Who am I? And now you go to a lounge and they're like, we're actually full. Well, that's crazy because my flight's not for two hours. Why would I have gotten here any earlier?

[Beth Stelling]

Is that happening?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, Every time. I even. I don't even have. Also, I fly a lot. They don't include that anymore in a lot of tiers of. A lot of. It's like, oh, no, you gotta buy a membership to the club. I'm like, why would I do that?

[Beth Stelling]

Or there's a credit card thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Why would I do that?

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. We know that you're really high status with us, but you're not flying to a different country, so you can't come in here.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. That's the only time I've ever gone. You're absolutely right. It's the international flights that are like, you can come in. I'm like, why? To encourage me to get here early. It worked. It did work. I didn't have to fight for an outlet. And there's a free soda. Am I the only lady on earth still drinking soda?

[Beth Stelling]

I actually just started recently. It's good. I think probably as a kid, it was hard to kick.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

And then I moved to. I still like sparkling waters. Of course. I understand. Right.

[Katie Nolan]

That's what I'm drinking most of the time.

[Beth Stelling]

I understand people's issue with them tasting like nothing or whatever, but whatever.

[Katie Nolan]

You're, I believe, the best tweet I saw. And I don't remember who did it. So I wish I could give him credit. But I will say it's not mine. Is that it tastes like somebody's in the other room yelling the name of a fruit while you take a sip of some soda water. And it's like, that's exactly it. But it works.

[Beth Stelling]

But I've started.

[Katie Nolan]

But a good soda.

[Beth Stelling]

I've taken some. A couple of dips into Diet Coke lately.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I was gonna say. See, I went back full sugar. I was like, if I'm coming back, you're gonna go, yeah, I'm gonna go. Like a full sugar Coke when you haven't had one in a while is like, are we fucking doing this? It's like I'm being so bad. And then you go, it's just soda. There's not even any alcohol in it. But it's taste. It's a tasty little treat.

[Beth Stelling]

I know I'm going back to all kinds. Yeah, I think I. Cigarettes.

[Isabella]

I'm going back.

[Beth Stelling]

I was gonna say that.

[Katie Nolan]

I do think soon I will be back.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, I started smoking again for sure. That's actually.

[Katie Nolan]

Don't do it, kids. Feels important to say.

[Beth Stelling]

I had a couple different going just to figure out what I was into, so.

[Katie Nolan]

And where'd you land?

[Beth Stelling]

I love a Camel Crush. Just to have a.

[Katie Nolan]

Every. It always comes up. It feels like a niche cigarette. And yet every old smoker who's thinking about coming back that I talk to brings up Camel Crush.

[Beth Stelling]

We could have a couple sips of the regular tobacco and then.

[Katie Nolan]

And then let's really party and then hit it. And then let's really party with some menthol.

[Beth Stelling]

Then if you're worried about your breath, you know, just snap that menthol.

[Katie Nolan]

So true. My fear is that the world will begin to end and we will have forgotten we being Dan and I. To acquire an amount of cigarettes to ride through, like to be able to go like commerce is down.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The stores are empty. Did we get a carton of cigarettes? But I also don't want to go too early and then have Dan's, you know, know an addict. He has that in his blood.

[Beth Stelling]

It is going to come back.

[Katie Nolan]

If he comes back, he's coming back. So we can't do it until we're at the end and he can go out smoking. You know what I mean? I don't want to actually. I don't want to harm him.

[Beth Stelling]

But be relatively fresh.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. I would like him to stay around as long as possible. But if we're both finding out that. That's only. We all only have a few. Whatever. I just want to make sure we got cigarettes. Okay. Here's the thing we were going to talk about. You are. We want to talk about going full throttle in competition in your late 30s.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Because you. As you just said. I haven't even thought about saying the sentence. I was just in the best shape of my life. And you said it about last year. So it's recent and fresh in your mind, regardless of how you feel at the current moment.

[Beth Stelling]

Current moment. I'm off.

[Katie Nolan]

Fair enough.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm off the rails.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm so far off the rails that I am worried about the lack of muscle in my leg. I wore a heavy shoe yesterday, and going down the stairs of this building, I was like, the shoe is doing the work. I couldn't slow down if I wanted to. It was like my leg can't lift my shoes.

[Beth Stelling]

Picture is like one of those like little lambs that's like. It's like a toy that was created to tumble with the hard shoe.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, oh, once you put it down, it's kind of like a slinky. It just goes on its own by the. Its own motion. But you were just in your best shape of your life. Matthew Stafford. I don't know how much sports you're following, but I've got all the information. All you need is to react to the thing itself. Matthew Stafford, 37 years old, is having a great season. He is the leading MVP candidate. He plays quarterback. So, like, an important position, takes hits.37. And we know Tom Brady played until he was, what, 42, 43. I'm hiding because I should know this, but it was something like that. But he's. And he's 37 and he's a leading MVP candidate.

[Beth Stelling]

How long did he play? He felt like he went long.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he went a little too long, if you ask me.

[Isabella]

But that's the thing.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm like these guys. I guess quarterback's the only position you could go pretty long.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, we just said I'm not a huge football player. That's okay. We just heard a story about a defensive lineman who's in his 50s or 60s that went back and is playing college.

[Beth Stelling]

Okay, there is something to be said about brain power.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, talk to me as you get older.

[Beth Stelling]

You're saying, yeah, we'll play the. Sometimes in my Santa Monica field Hockey club will play. Why am I brain dead? Defined.

[Katie Nolan]

That's okay.

[Beth Stelling]

Let's brain. Let's brain.

[Katie Nolan]

I think it's because I'm just staring at you. I'll look over there.

[Beth Stelling]

No, no, no. But sometimes we'll play, like, uc, David. We'll play some of the club teams that are college girls, and sometimes we win. Like. But I think there's something to be said about, like, experience and hours spent doing it. Does the games beat meat?

[Katie Nolan]

No, as they say. They say as you get older, it's like. Like you're not as.

[Beth Stelling]

So when we play in these tournaments, the Masters tournaments, there's. It's by fiveyear increments. So there's the.035 team, the 40 team. 45. 50. You get it?

[Katie Nolan]

So why don't they just call it U40 and U45 to focus on the fact that you're still young? You know what I mean?

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, that's nice.

[Katie Nolan]

Couldn't they. Couldn't they spin it to make you not feel like an O and instead feel like a U?

[Beth Stelling]

To be honest with you, I never even considered the. Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

Mm. I'm just used to hearing, like, oh, the United States U16 World cup, you know?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

But it's funny, when they. What year do they switch to O? Where they go, like, you're not you. Nothing over 30 is O. 35. The first one. Is that the first?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, 35. You have to beat a. You're the Masters.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

And then. And obviously you can. You can play down, but you can't play up. So. I forget where I was going with this. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Experience. There's a lot to be said for experience. So you come back into the game, you have this almost like you can at least have sort of a bird's eye view on the game or just. I'm sure some of it's muscle memory, but, yeah, sometimes that can win over youth and strength and speed.

[Katie Nolan]

Sometimes not every time, but enough times that gambling is still. The odds are for a reason, you know, you can defy them.

[Beth Stelling]

I, obviously, because I didn't play in college, I never watched tape or anything like that. And this last year.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn, you skipped the homework.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. Well, it's interesting. Like, my first year making the team would have been, I guess, two years ago playing in the Pan Am cup in Buenos Aires. And our coach was Steffi, who's an Olympian with mini caps. And I was insecure, like. Like we've obviously discussed, and I was like, do I deserve to be here? And, you know, and again, I was the only person who didn't play in college. But she said to me, she's like, you owe Your. Your field high coach in high school. A lot of credit. She taught you such the basics and you use those still. And of course there's room for improvement. Always.

[Katie Nolan]

Always.

[Beth Stelling]

And I did train one other time with Steph to learn some of the more advanced skills. Aerials and things like that would help me as a defender, which our coach actually wouldn't allow us to do because.

[Katie Nolan]

It was too advanced at the time.

[Beth Stelling]

I still did reversal. Like, I remember scoring on a reverse stick in high school. And of course she couldn't be mad because I scored, but we weren't really allowed to use it.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

She would rather us play on the strong side of our stick just to.

[Katie Nolan]

Get the fundamentals into your body and.

[Beth Stelling]

Even just always the strong side of your stick, because why not right now? The girls are. The game is very different in a lot of ways, and it's cool to see. And I don't think any girl I know very few people still playing on grass, at least. Like, my high school even plays on turf now, which is crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Is it dangerous? Is it as dangerous?

[Beth Stelling]

It makes a game faster.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Beth Stelling]

You could argue, maybe even safer, actually.

[Katie Nolan]

Really?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. Cause, like, there's no, like, divots and bumps and.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Cause I know in other sports it's like the. That is a hotly contested debate about if it's like, better for a player. Cause in football, it's like a. You know, not as soft or natural of a surface. So like for hits and stuff. But I think in field hockey, it's.

[Beth Stelling]

Probably Astroturf is better, like for the game. But field turf with the little.

[Katie Nolan]

With the pellets.

[Beth Stelling]

The little pellets I hate. I mean, obviously those get in your shoes.

[Katie Nolan]

Literally tiny plastics, microplastics. It's like, not what we're trying.

[Isabella]

I don't love it.

[Katie Nolan]

Not fucking with those. Just mentioning a couple other over 30s for you. So if you're looking for people to root for in mainstream sports, LeBron James just played his first game of the season. He's 40.

[Beth Stelling]

Wow.

[Katie Nolan]

He missed the first 14 games. He has sciatica. Aww. Which it doesn't often affect. It can affect young people. But you hear sciatica and you go.

[Beth Stelling]

Like, yeah, that's an old.

[Katie Nolan]

An older person thing, I feel.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. Gout.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And again, I think a kid could get gout, I'm sure. But it's just not the most common thing you think of. And he played, and so did his son. His son came off the bench, and so they played on the same team. Being the Lakers Wow. Yeah. In a game, which is. They've done that a couple times.

[Beth Stelling]

What about Kershaw?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he's just finished. Retired. He was 40 or 41. Got to. Came in and pitched. His last appearance was in the World Series. He pitched that. He got one out, but it was an. A high leverage out. It was an important situation. Bases were loaded when he came in, and he delivered, and he got his moment. And then he immediately was like, and I'm done. I will not be coming back out next inning. You're a Dodgers fan, question mark? Question mark?

[Beth Stelling]

I am. I don't want to be overrated.

[Katie Nolan]

Look, the name of the show. You don't have to know everything. Did you root for the Dodgers in the World Series?

[Beth Stelling]

I did.

[Katie Nolan]

Then, hell, yeah. Congratulations.

[Beth Stelling]

It was very fun to watch.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I mean, one of the best World Series of our lifetime.

[Beth Stelling]

It really was so amazing.

[Katie Nolan]

Every moment, every game. I mean, especially those last two games. Oh, my gosh.

[Beth Stelling]

We stayed up till midnight watching my projector in my room.

[Katie Nolan]

You stayed up for all the innings of the 18 inning?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And you're gonna say you're not a fan of the. It's a full thing to do. What an experience. Dan fell asleep.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, my God.

[Katie Nolan]

Dan fell fast asleep before the regulation amount of innings went. He was asleep in the eighth inning.

[Beth Stelling]

Did he do a show that night?

[Katie Nolan]

No, we were on vacation. I think he was just comfortable, and he doesn't sleep well. That's what happens to me. He's, like, knocked out. And I was like.

[Beth Stelling]

I went on a little trip with my boyfriend and I, like, and his friends. So it was like one of those. It was a camping thing, and they're, like, hanging by the beach during the day, drinking. And I'm, like, on a towel under the tent, like. And everyone's like, is she. Does she want to come have a beer with us? And he's like, she's tired.

[Katie Nolan]

Spiritually, yes, but she fears she won't be able to bring the Beth you most deserve unless this happens first. And I get it. I woke him up every time something happened. Not on purpose, but I went like, oh, my God. He would sit up and go, like, amazing, and then go right back to sleep. And I knew that none of it registered. I wrote it all down and regurgitated it to him the next day. It was so cool, so fun. What a fun World Series.

[Beth Stelling]

I was also screaming. I mean, yes.

[Katie Nolan]

It's so much. Shohei Ohtani. What an incredible specimen. What a guy. What an athlete.

[Beth Stelling]

We're seeing that at Unreal.

[Katie Nolan]

And that we might lock out and not see him. So did you catch, like, a fever from watching. Will you be watching more Dodgers baseball next year? This is me focus grouping to see if baseball worked on you in the postseason.

[Beth Stelling]

I also know that if my family and one of my nibblings read, he loves the Dodgers, so if they came to visit me from Ohio, I would love to take them to a game.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh. So the best.

[Beth Stelling]

We went for Father's Day and it was extremely hot.

[Katie Nolan]

But if they work on that.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, if we could work on the.

[Katie Nolan]

Sun more than that. It really is the best. It is the best. Third place in the summer. I feel like it's unfortunately incredibly expensive now.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. That was another fun part of it.

[Katie Nolan]

Unfortunately limited an hour and a half.

[Beth Stelling]

To get in there.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Dodgy stadium is.

[Beth Stelling]

It took us a long time to get into the parking lot. And then the security guy was. Was.

[Katie Nolan]

Was lovely. I'm sure was. The end of that sentence is that he was nice and kind and helpful.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah, it was bad.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I will say the best. The most baseball I went to in a year was when I obviously worked in baseball for a year and every Friday went to a different game. A little difficult because they were all on the west coast and I had to fly. I live on the East Coast. But the best part was obviously the seat. We sit right behind the. Whatever behind the plate. But getting there before way before the game, just either we're at a hotel where we walked right to the game, or would you drive in no traffic? Cause I gotta get there way before it even starts to get set up. And then we would leave after, so there was no traffic. And then I was like, this is not the experience for the average person where you just have to clock, like, add into your timing.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Sitting in your car. The amount of times going to a Bruins game as a child or a Red Sox game with my two parents. And like, I feel like when my brother went to college where they would just scream about parking and I was. It was scarring to me. I was like, I don't. This ends relationships. And yet they stayed together.

[Beth Stelling]

My mom and I got in a huge. I threw out the first pitch of the Dayton Dragons game a couple months ago, maybe September.

[Katie Nolan]

How did it go?

[Beth Stelling]

I had to do a little. I did a little bit, you know, like, I fake threw it behind me. I dropped it behind me as a fun bit.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. So you didn't even try.

[Beth Stelling]

And then I did throw it to home. Yeah. Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

I was a little nervous. I Did a pretty good job. Yeah. Good.

[Beth Stelling]

Then say that I did a pretty good job.

[Katie Nolan]

Shoulders back. I did. Was it a strike? Close enough?

[Beth Stelling]

I don't know. Yeah, I think so.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. We could probably pull up.

[Beth Stelling]

I shuffled a little closer to him before I threw it.

[Katie Nolan]

That's okay. No one's expecting you to throw. She's like, I didn't put enough spin on it. I was trying to throw a curve, and I threw more of a drop curve. And so for that reason, I guess I suck.

[Beth Stelling]

Could you imagine?

[Katie Nolan]

I guess I'm the worst. I guess I'm the worst lady alive because I didn't do it perfect. But you know what? That's what motivates her, and that's what she does.

[Beth Stelling]

But we did get in a fight over parking because we had to get there early. And then she wanted to go pay for a cheaper lot farther away.

[Katie Nolan]

There's always that.

[Beth Stelling]

Then we're walking around.

[Katie Nolan]

Right, right, right. Where you go, look, I've got the money. I'm gonna spend it. I want to make this less. And that's bad. It shouldn't be that way. Shouldn't be like, you can pay $100 and park somewhere reasonable, or you can pay like 200 or, like, pay $30 and park somewhere that's so far away you'd have to get there. It should not be that way.

[Beth Stelling]

I would love it if sometimes when.

[Katie Nolan]

It is that way, you just pay the hundred dollars. And I'm sorry, I'm contributing to the system that's keeping people from going to the games.

[Beth Stelling]

Should be $5 to park anyway.

[Katie Nolan]

It should all be free.

[Beth Stelling]

Freeze. Would be.

[Katie Nolan]

Let people take their family. Kids should go free to a baseball game. You are indoctrinating them. If you want to look at it as pessimistically as possible to indoctrinate them with the love of this sport, that then they will be financially obligated to fork over all their money to you four for the rest of their lives. Yeah, don't even look if you don't even want to. Look at the sunshine brightness of Kids should get to go to ball games for free. Look at the pessimistic side where it's like, well, then they'll have to pay you for the rest of their lives. Maybe that'll make it work. But kids should go, and they're locked in for free. Now, I hear there's a controversy in field hockey, and if there is, that you're aware of and you have a take on, I'd like to give you a space to air it out, UNC head coach Aaron Matson, I'm sure a name that needs no introduction to you, One of the greatest player players in American field hockey history, turned down an opportunity to try out for the U.S. olympic team in 2023 because she was preparing for her first season as the head coach at UNC at just the age of 23. She ended up being the youngest head coach to ever win a national championship. And then in spring of 2024, came back and requested a chance to try out and she was rejected. As USA Field Hockey said they already had their pool of candidates established and they would not bend. Is that a mistake? Do you feel like, or do you understand it or third option? Do you not want to talk about it?

[Beth Stelling]

No. I would say the only thing that comes to my mind, because I actually wasn't aware of that controversy is yes, I think they made a mistake. But when did she ask was it too late? Is my question like, I'm not trying to blame her, but it's like, sure. Did she tell them too late? I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

Spring of 2024 and then the Olympics of 2024 were in the summer. Right. So. So it was. Right, it might be late. Yeah. Usually they'll have picked a team by then.

[Beth Stelling]

Right. So that feels like if she was like, yeah, you're not gonna get preferential treatment, but shouldn't you? I don't know. I think there's something to be said about a team sport. Playing together, practicing together even. And of course, I'd love to parallel it to my own 40 year old career. And let's. Because I had to start touring again. I missed all the trainings to try out. I played in one tournament with the master this August. That's the only time the new coaches saw me play. And I, let's be real, I had already started smoking cigs for fun after that last shoot.

[Katie Nolan]

So you did all right.

[Beth Stelling]

I knew I had three months to prepare, so I started slowly walking, biking, like. But was I in the best shape for that tournament? No, it would have been great if I just stayed in shape. So they saw me play in one tournament, then they said we. Then there was like three trainings I missed because I had weekends in comedy class.

[Katie Nolan]

Because you had to murder. Yeah, you just had to go murder.

[Beth Stelling]

And they said, why don't you put together some tape if you have it? Which made me go back and watch like Buenos Aires, I think I was in. I trained with the program they sent, which was more distance and that I didn't feel like I was in good enough shape for that. But we got second to Argentina. They're very good.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

Then I came back in the World Cup. We had a very bad tournament. I shouldn't say very, very bad. Well, we lost every game in the World Cup.

[Katie Nolan]

That sounds very bad.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And.

[Beth Stelling]

But I trained. It's okay. Yeah. I trained through sprinting, and so I was in much better shape.

[Katie Nolan]

Interesting.

[Beth Stelling]

For the game. I felt right again. I realize I'm like an athlete, but I'm telling you, I don't consider myself that.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't care what I do compared to me.

[Beth Stelling]

So I was in better shape. But we lost every game. And I would say that was due to the fact that we really did. We didn't practice together because we couldn't because we're all living in different states.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, really good point. So you're saying you can be in the best shape of your life and have all of the best collection of people who feel good about themselves individually, but they don't have chemistry as a team.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. So this year they can train more together to prepare themselves better for 2026 World cup in Netherlands. So I couldn't make them, but I had. I went back to force myself to watch tape from World Cup Cape Town, where we had a bad showing. Everybody make mistakes. I'm watching it. It's brutal to watch. I've never watched myself play ever. All these years.

[Katie Nolan]

Because you skipped tape.

[Beth Stelling]

Because why would I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wouldn't.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Beth Stelling]

And my first tournament as an adult in a. Well, you know, I've been playing club in la, but we don't tape those games. And I have bad habits, actually.

[Katie Nolan]

I say, sure. And then I'm like, if anybody was gonna tape them, I feel like LA would tape their club, put him on social.

[Beth Stelling]

But I don't. I don't have. I don't see myself play. I've had people reflect back to me that I, like, fold over halfway as a tall person. But making myself do that. That was literally just September, I think it was, that my boyfriend cut together a reel.

[Katie Nolan]

So sweet.

[Beth Stelling]

It was very sweet.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. That's love. That's him performing. Love to you.

[Beth Stelling]

That is so sweet. It was.

[Katie Nolan]

Because he does film stuff.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. He's a director.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. That's so cute.

[Beth Stelling]

And he does. He's like. He does everything. He's very impressive. He actually directed and edited my special on YouTube, the Landlord Special.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, hell yeah. Sick.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. Anyway, he shot. He did everything in that. We had one other Camera op named Lincoln. But anyway, point is, I was forced to watch myself. Many heirs. The only thing that made me feel better is that other people, of course, had also many airs. But when I'm watching myself as his defender, I. I'm like, oh, these are, like, really avoidable things. And if I was able to maybe watch more and see myself, I would have fixed them sooner. Can you teach an old dog new tricks? I don't know. It's gonna be hard to correct somebody's hair.

[Katie Nolan]

It's harder. Bad habits there are. Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm a pinball machine in a lot of ways. I can hear my high school coach saying, carry it out on your stick. Instead of, like, for example, there's one clip where I stop a ball at the top of the circle as a fly, and just instead of carrying it out on my stick and passing it to someone who's running back from the half, I bat it out. I stop it, and then go bat it out directly to the other team. They shoot again. I stop it again.

[Katie Nolan]

Great job again.

[Beth Stelling]

Bat it out.

[Katie Nolan]

Bad job again.

[Beth Stelling]

Another. I hated to shoot on us three times.

[Katie Nolan]

Not great.

[Beth Stelling]

Brutal to watch.

[Katie Nolan]

Not great. But now that you've watched it, Brutal to watch, you're at least like, oh. And I. I hear in my voice, in my head, the. The voice of my coach telling me to do it a certain way.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, my gosh. But that's in high school. So, anyway, I hadn't seen myself make these errors.

[Katie Nolan]

This is a good advertisement for watching tape.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. There's some good moves, which, of course, we compiled.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, of course.

[Beth Stelling]

Good.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a highlight reel. If you're gonna go through the footage, you have to make a highlight reel. Of course.

[Beth Stelling]

So, anyway, point being, I wasn't able to train with the team this year. I won't be surprised if I don't make it this year.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Beth Stelling]

And that's okay.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's okay. It's not part of your journey. You weren. And you just.

[Beth Stelling]

I would love to go, but let's be real, right? And so, anyway, to the Matson thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. She's excellent. Perhaps they could drop her in anywhere, and she's gonna be a scoring machine. Who knows? But if the team's playing together, training together, there is an issue of, you know, gelling as a team. Incompatibility and even just, like, a level of fairness. As much as I don't know how the team feels. Would they be, like, mad at you.

[Katie Nolan]

That you came in at the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Exactly.

[Beth Stelling]

You never know why don't you get to do it? I came to everything.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Or would they be like, oh, my God, it's such an honor. It's. You're a legend or whatever. You never know. Do you watch yourself comedy wise? Do you watch back your comedy or listen back to you roll your eyes at me? I saw that. Do you listen back to your. Is that cuz you're supposed to, but you don't like to?

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. I mean, look, I tape, I record every set you all do.

[Katie Nolan]

And do all your phones run very slowly because you've all got hours and hours and hours of comedy.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. Minimal amount of listening.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

There's tags. I've gone back and listened and go, oh, my gosh, I just dropped that tag. But the special's already done.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

I can't believe I forgot that tag. But then again, you have to say, I always, you know, not to make it too. Make it bigger than it is. But like, you know, like, every set is a wave over a rock, and it's getting smoother and smoother, and if it went. If a little edge went away, it was gone for a purpose. So, you know, I think it's waves crashing on a beach every set. And the jokes are hard rocks that you're smoothing into beautiful stones.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's actually what they named the cafe after. It's the Hard Rock Cafe because the waves hit the stones.

[Beth Stelling]

So. Yeah, I don't.

[Katie Nolan]

I hate watching myself. Next time you can ask the poor people who produce this podcast with me. They'll be like, hey, can you approve this clip? And I'm like, I really don't feel like watching TV. 10 minutes, I know of me yapping about nothing. And just because I'll watch it and go, like, could have said that better. Could have said that differently. Could have gotten the booger out of your nose. But that's not what you're watching a clip for. You're watching to go, like, edit points or, like, do we need to add or lose? And it's just like, watching yourself critically is, like, exhausting.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

It requires me to, like, shift to a part of my brain where it's like, don't take any of this personal. Yeah. You have to make it.

[Beth Stelling]

Yep. I mean, I wanted to scrap that whole special, to be honest. The one that you like, that last one. What?

[Katie Nolan]

Why?

[Beth Stelling]

I hated it.

[Katie Nolan]

I feel like you all do this too.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

At least with at least one of your. How many hours do you have? Three, four out that have existed?

[Beth Stelling]

Probably three or so. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

How many of them? Are you like. Yeah, about.

[Beth Stelling]

I'd say an hour and a half.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. That feels like you're in the right spot. That's where you should be. Cause if you're going all four absolute bangers. I'm like, this lady's delusional.

[Beth Stelling]

There's no.

[Katie Nolan]

No way. There's just no way I have one.

[Beth Stelling]

In the can that I'm having a tough time watching or wanting to put anywhere.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you leave room for the fact that you not liking it? You can be wrong.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. And I did with that last one.

[Katie Nolan]

Good. Because that's most times. What it is, is people find that, like, you're. It's your way too close to it. And then once you remove from it and then when other people perceive it.

[Beth Stelling]

They go like, there's times where I've shot something and go, I'm proud of myself. I freaking did great. I nailed that.

[Katie Nolan]

I. I can vaguely recall having that feeling as well. It does. It comes.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah. I was like, dang, I did a good job.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Beth Stelling]

And that would be for sure. Solid hour and a half of stuff. I've put.

[Katie Nolan]

Have you ever had. Have you ever had that feeling about something and then watched it back and gone like, wow, that sucked. Now I have no idea what's good. That's the worst. When you go, oh, I killed it today. And then you watch it back and you go, I was manic. Okay. Because that was not good at all. It was really hard to follow. I wanted to get your opinion on not too many sports things, but this one feels like it could use Beth Stelling perspective lent to it. Are you aware that of who Bill Belichick is?

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Former head coach of the New England Patriots. Very storied, respected coach who has since experienced a bit of a fall from grace. He has switched to. After not being able to get a job in the NFL.

[Beth Stelling]

Really?

[Katie Nolan]

He switched to college, which is a completely different game.

[Beth Stelling]

Wait, so he. He was where again he was New.

[Katie Nolan]

England Patriots got all of those championships to get the rose. Tom Brady left and to Tampa Bay and ended his career, won a Super bowl there. Bill Belichick at the Patriots without Brady didn't have the same sauce. And then he couldn't get a job elsewhere when they. The Patriots moved on from him. And then he went. Now he works at UNC and he brought in a bunch of his friends who have question marks around how much they're qualified to be in the jobs that they're in. And he like changed the whole program. And he started famously dating a very Young, young woman, I believe is 27 and he is 72. Or maybe she's 26, 25 and he's 72.

[Beth Stelling]

Right. I thought she was responsible for cutting off the sleeves of his, of his sweatshirt.

[Katie Nolan]

No, she actually, she came in after that.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

I heard she wears her jackets like off her shoulder. I saw somebody say it's crazy to be his age and date a person who wears their jacket that way. It's just not a way that you often see.

[Beth Stelling]

It's like put your backpack on all the way. Right.

[Katie Nolan]

And it's not because it's sliding off because they, their like frame is diminishing. He was spotted at. She's trying to find the way to say this the plainest without injecting any sort of editorializing. She's a co ed adult cheerleader. She competes in co ed adult cheerleading. And he went to her competition over.

[Beth Stelling]

The weekend just to make sure the male cheerleaders weren't feeling around too much up there.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe. North Carolina lost to Wake Forest on Saturday. So that's his team. They lost 28 to 12. They're not having a good season. They are four. The season's winding down. He, they, they weren't a football school, so it's not really the, the, the stakes weren't as high as they could have been, but it's still not great. Um, and then on Sunday he went and supported his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, who was in an adult co ed cheerleading competition in Rally North Carolina. He was spotted off to the side at Cheer Extreme All Stars X Evolution, which is of course what it's named. And she and her team, Code Black performed. I believe we have a photo that they were going to put of, of. There he is.

[Beth Stelling]

Wow. My hair might look better than hers.

[Katie Nolan]

What is that now?

[Beth Stelling]

Truly a beaver tail on the left.

[Katie Nolan]

The most off putting part of this photo for me. It's almost uncanny.

[Beth Stelling]

JonBenet Ramsey here.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, it's uncanny Valley because it is adult cheerleading, but they look like toddlers in tiaras. So. And when you zoom in on a toddlers and tiaras, the goal is it's like little girls dressing up as what they think older girls look like. And so this is older girls dressing up as girls think older girls look like. And it's very off putting to me.

[Beth Stelling]

Wow. An interesting take here too with the male outfits. It's like a baseball tee, but I'm pretty sure that's see through. Right?

[Katie Nolan]

I think so. I think they are the exact, almost exact same except for the maybe sweetheart neckline on the women almost the exact same sparkly see through panel costumes on both.

[Beth Stelling]

It's like it's giving more ice skating than cheers.

[Isabella]

It is.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I again, this is sort of like the way you opened my eyes to field hockey sticks no longer being wood and now probably being some sort of composite. I didn't. I haven't checked in with cheerleading in a while. And what's happening in the hair space is very different from my time now. I was a competitive dance. I wasn't a cheerleader. I did competitive dance, but it was very, it was very similar. They were like cousins of each other. We were the neglected cousin. Nobody cared about competitive dance as much as cheerleading was the big sell. But it was mostly curls. These are teased straight ponytail buns is my best attempt at explaining it. A beaver tail is truly what it's like, thick and flat.

[Beth Stelling]

But her, her little. She's in the back, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, that's her with the. She doesn't look thrilled to be there, but maybe she's saving all her cheer for the floor.

[Beth Stelling]

She's in. She's on faith Rest.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Beth Stelling]

It looks like her hair thing is like a Christmas bow. I I Or like a curly present. Whereas they have the pink bows. Then there's roses and other people. Oh, hers is not looking like a rose.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

It's looking like a present. Or like, you know when you take scissors to ribbon and you.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure. What's that called? Shear or something. When you shear a ribbon or something.

[Beth Stelling]

I mean, that's one of the coolest things to learn how to do as a kid.

[Katie Nolan]

Remember Feeling like magic.

[Beth Stelling]

I thought it was incredible.

[Katie Nolan]

I did that.

[Beth Stelling]

Watch this.

[Katie Nolan]

And then you would do it too much and go like, I'm shredding the cheap ribbon that my mom bought.

[Beth Stelling]

And then you have some. Is this a judge here on the left. Hunger Games style on the blue suit.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe. But I know that the guy in the hoodie in the back with sleeves is her boyfriend. I wish we got also a picture of it.

[Beth Stelling]

Could be her dad.

[Katie Nolan]

Could be her grandpa. Beth. Yeah, it could literally be her grandpa. Her dad splits the difference in age between the two of them. Her dad's in his 50s. She's her 20s. He's in his 70s.

[Beth Stelling]

No. Ew. Ew. I just feel weird shaking. Like 50 year old guy's got to shake Bill's hand.

[Katie Nolan]

And what if he's like a fan? What if he respects him as a fan? And now you're like complicated. So inside of her is where you go.

[Beth Stelling]

He's like, well, when we plan it, I'm inside of her. But we do have to plan.

[Katie Nolan]

We do. I need notice.

[Beth Stelling]

I gotta take a Cialis, I think.

[Katie Nolan]

Isn't everybody on them now?

[Beth Stelling]

I think Cialis like the young.

[Katie Nolan]

I think the younger. Younger than usual. Really getting on those. I think something about porn. We really don't have to get into it. I think it's just the abundance and availability of porn.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, yes, I've dated a porn addict.

[Katie Nolan]

Has dysfunctioned. Yeah, I think it was bad. Oh, like it was really bad. Have they?

[Beth Stelling]

Really bad.

[Katie Nolan]

Cotton.

[Beth Stelling]

I think. I mean, they did. They. They entered a 12 step program and then wrote me an amends letter like two weeks later. I was like. Seems quick.

[Katie Nolan]

Very.

[Beth Stelling]

Almost like you're addicted to aa.

[Katie Nolan]

You love recovering.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm really snorting this AA program.

[Katie Nolan]

You sure love to recover. You get off on apologizing to everybody in step instead of seven, six, whichever step that is. I've gotten two.

[Beth Stelling]

But I.

[Katie Nolan]

As a recipient of. And I've never gone through a. I was like, hey, that's all right. I wasn't mad. Hey, actually, I wasn't mad. I was, but I wasn't anymore.

[Beth Stelling]

That's good.

[Katie Nolan]

Can I ask you something? We can cut out if it's a dumb question.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh, my God.

[Katie Nolan]

That I want to start asking all of my. If somebody had never heard of you when they come to this podcast, first of all, what the hell? But we forgive you. What would you recommend if they needed to get a sense of you? They Google Beth Stelling plus what words to get something that they'll go. You're like, that's the representation of me. I want them to have.

[Beth Stelling]

I used to say I really liked this Melbourne International Comedy Festival set. Cause it was just like a. To me, it's similar to a late night set that I would have liked. And I don't dislike it anymore. But try that.

[Katie Nolan]

Start there. Yeah, that's selling Melbourne.

[Beth Stelling]

Yes. A lot of people really like my half hour on Netflix. The same season that Dan and I were on the standups in 2017. A lot of people really love that half hour. That's one of the ones I would consider like, you know what? I did a good job and I'm really happy with that.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And now I hate to have to do this, but on his behalf, because I love him so much. Not one of Dan's favorites of his, really. So if you're going there to look for Beth and you're like, oh, watch Dan's. And if you don't like it, neither Is Dan. So I love it. I think everything he's ever done is brilliant.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

But just to represent him. He's probably going like, damn, why'd she have to pick that one?

[Beth Stelling]

Don't follow him there.

[Katie Nolan]

But I think he's nuts. I think it's good.

[Beth Stelling]

Dan has Son of a Gary on hbo. I have Girl Daddy on hbo.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Beth Stelling]

Great. So go there to watch both of them. Those are both proud of those.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. That's. Dan and I started dating. Our second date was the taping of that. His special. I know. I was like, this better be fun. This really better be good. Or I gotta go.

[Beth Stelling]

And it was.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank God. And thank God for that. Beth Stelling, you are incredible. Do you want to plug your socials? Do you care?

[Beth Stelling]

Find me at BethStelling.

[Katie Nolan]

Look at that.

[Beth Stelling]

And if you follow me and I. And I reach millions of followers. And maybe I'll get another special someday.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

That I don't have to pay for and put on YouTube.

[Katie Nolan]

Or maybe I'll just have to just put them on.

[Beth Stelling]

Yay. Fuck.

[Katie Nolan]

I guess everything's changing.

[Beth Stelling]

I think. Yeah. I think that I want to change with the times. The Landlord special is a really. It's like a long story that I decided to put on YouTube and just sort of be able to move on from.

[Katie Nolan]

Get it on wax and move on from it. Yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

I think it's got a hundred thousand or so views and I've made around $2. Oh, my God.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Then don't take that bottle of water. You're doing well enough. You don't need that. I'll drink it. Thank you for coming and for doing this.

[Beth Stelling]

Thanks for having me.

[Katie Nolan]

We love you. We made this plan to have Beth on so long ago. Cause she was like, top of my list of people I wanted. She just is never in New York.

[Beth Stelling]

So I was so happy to be here. Was. You know, I'd give myself a C. I didn't sleep enough. I stayed up till three watching. Oh, maybe five.

[Katie Nolan]

You stayed up till five?

[Beth Stelling]

I think it was five watching the Mormon Housewives show. Oh, okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Is it good?

[Beth Stelling]

But that's technically 2am for me, if you think about it.

[Katie Nolan]

I just got here, of course. Is it good? Are you on the new season?

[Beth Stelling]

I am on the new season and I've watched all of them. I was.

[Katie Nolan]

It's Slow Burn. I watched season one. Yeah. I heard season two was really good. I never went back season one.

[Beth Stelling]

I was like, what are we doing here?

[Katie Nolan]

Season one pissed me off. They kept talking about a thing that was interesting, but nobody ever actually addressed whether or not they did the interesting thing.

[Beth Stelling]

That kind of happens again.

[Katie Nolan]

It bugs me. I feel like they're dangling and I never get to eat the carrot.

[Beth Stelling]

I would say a couple of positive things that I really like I about it are two of the women, particularly Mikayla. She's showcasing in real time. She has some skin issues. And another person who's brilliantly written about this is Laura Chin. Very good writer and she did some acting too. But she has a book called Acne. But both of them to me are fascinating because I've dealt with that in my life. And what I'm getting at is shedding light on this idea that any trauma or. Or things that have happened to us can sometimes express themselves in your skin. And when you face them and get them out, you can heal yourself. And it's really not so like hippy dippy. It's just kind of fascinating and true and I think it's cool to shed light on that. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Hell yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

So yeah, there's some great things they're doing also. Macy has, I believe it's a gay cousin or brother in law's brother. And they're doing their best. Cause Utah was facing like, you know, laws being passed where you couldn't fly the pride flag and stuff. So she was basically. They put one in the front yard. They're doing their best to say like radical. Yeah, exactly. But you have a place here.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Beth Stelling]

And we support you. And we're out.

[Katie Nolan]

That's amazing.

[Beth Stelling]

So they're doing some cool stuff.

[Katie Nolan]

I would say that's really nice of you and fair of you. All I was gonna bring up was that Whitney just got voted off of Dancing with the Stars. And I saw everybody was in an uproar about it.

[Beth Stelling]

Oh yeah, she's my least favorite, but she's a.

[Katie Nolan]

A lot. And I. People are saying the reason she was voted off was because she. They premiered the show and she didn't do well this season. She had a bad season. And that the voting is fan voting for Dancing with the Stars and that they were voting based off not liking her on that show. Which is why I'm like, why are you on two reality shows at the same time? Taylor, Frankie, Paul, same thing. She's like the Bachelorette.

[Beth Stelling]

Has that started?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't think so, but I don't know.

[Beth Stelling]

Wow, that one's gonna be wild.

[Katie Nolan]

What a weird crossover. It doesn't seem. But hey, interesting.

[Beth Stelling]

I'm also like. It's also. They're shooting these people in like, what is it, 5K2 inches from their face? I mean, my goodness, it's a huge ad for filler and Botox.

[Katie Nolan]

It really is.

[Beth Stelling]

I don't want it. I'm not doing it. But you can see why they would. When you have like a microscope in your anus. Yeah, you'd start bleaching your butt too. If you're a custodial supervisor at a local high school, you know that cleanliness is key and that the best place to get cleaning supplies is from Grainger. Grainger helps you stay fully stocked on the products you trust, from paper towels and disinfectants to floor scrubbers. Plus, you can rely on Grainger for easy reordering, so you never run out.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Beth Stelling]

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[Katie Nolan]

Fun. Wasn't that fun? I just love her so much. I just love when my friends can come by and chat. They're just the best. So check out Beth Stelling across everything because she is great and it's just so fun. I love when you have to go like, hey, Beth, you're really good at this. You can just say you're really good at this. That's. You don't have to be sorry for being really good at this, Isabella. Speaking of not having to be sorry for being really good at at something, we've reached the part of the show where we talk about your fantasy team. Did you win again this week?

[Isabella]

Yes, I did.

[Katie Nolan]

So you have lost once all season.

[Isabella]

Once only.

[Katie Nolan]

Once only once all season. What was the margin of victory this week for you?

[Isabella]

Okay, so you're asking me to subtract with, like decimal points, so I can't do that. But I won by 107.92 and the loser got 88.34.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so quite a bit. I mean, it's quite a bit. We could run round that up to what, 30? Yeah. Oh, sorry, 20. I meant whatever, math. Just edit that. So I said what you said, Chris. Make it sound like I said the right answer. All right, so how do. I mean, I don't know what to ask you in these segments anymore, because in my mind they were going to be like, where could we have improved? What mistakes did we make? And every single week, you, except for one, you win.

[Isabella]

Okay, so I did win, but I did did make a mistake in terms of, like, I could have gotten even more points, right, if I put George Pickens in because he had, he was on my bench and he had 29 points. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he did have a very good game. Now this week, are you, are you going to learn? Do you want to learn from that mistake? Are you thinking about taking Pickens off the bench or are you feeling like, well, the matchup this week isn't the same as last week. He might not go off again. I'm going to leave him on my bench. Take us inside the mind of the Giant gm.

[Isabella]

I don't know. I mean, they're, they're playing Dallas is playing Philadelphia.

[Katie Nolan]

They're really good. They are. They're pretty good. Yeah. Pretty Good defense. Yeah. Yeah.

[Isabella]

Oh, damn. So maybe not.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Isabella]

I have to keep. Okay, so I. I get sad whenever I put Caleb on the bench, so I'm gonna keep him in still. Daniel Jones can stay there. He can hang out.

[Katie Nolan]

They're playing the Chiefs, so. Yeah, that or they did. They did play the Chiefs. Or they are playing the Chiefs. They are, because. Right. The Chiefs played. So. Yeah, you could. That's probably a good idea.

[Isabella]

Right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's. I'm fine. I think everything you do is a good idea.

[Isabella]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

Because when I say it's a bad idea based off of anything, I think it's you. I'm wrong. So history has proven all of your ideas are good ones.

[Isabella]

Someone did say something funny in the. In the league chat, though. They were like, where is it? Where is it? Oh, I don't know what Etsy wish, which Isabella went to before the season to win, but this is insane.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

And my thought is maybe I am the Etsy witch.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. You don't need Etsy.

[Isabella]

I don't. I'm just a witch.

[Katie Nolan]

When you're already the witch. You know what I mean? Let's not. She doesn't outsource. She does it all in house.

[Isabella]

Yes, exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

So she's also put a spell on this podcast and that's why it's doing so well. Because she said bibbidi boppity boo. Exactly. And that's how you get. That's how you get your subs up, folks. You just need a witch to go bibbidi bobbidi boo. All right, things we're looking for this week in the NFL is that Chiefs Colts game. Very. The Chiefs are five and five. Not great. The Colts are like, really looking like a good team, so we'll see how that goes. And then the first place pates. Dude, they keep it rolling. Bengals. Jamar Chase is suspended. Isabella, did you see there was more spitting?

[Isabella]

More?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Cuz remember game one of the year? We had a spit gate. Jamar Chase of the season. Yeah. Beginning of the game, Jamar Chase from the Bengals spit and then say he didn't. And everybody was like, buddy, we can see you. And it was just kind of nuts. He appealed the suspension and they were like, no. I said on the radio that if I. If they appealed the suspension to me and he had lied and said, nobody even spit on me. I didn't even get punched. I'd go, okay, now you're suspended for two games. Because not only she was acting like my four year old daughter, it's like, we can see it. So you now it's the lying is the bigger issue. Two games, you're out.

[Beth Stelling]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Yeah. It's like you're extending the grounding.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. If you had just said, like, said anything else, then I'd be like, fine, uphold one game. But anyway, they uphold. Absolutely parenting what I want. Thank you. So. But that's not what they did. So he's out for one game, but luckily that one game is against those first place pates. So sorry to see it. Hate to see any sort of suspension come down. But what I love to see is not having to play against Jamar Chase as the pates try to keep it helps their incredible win streak going. We're really doing it, Chris. We back in a big way, maybe potentially.

[Isabella]

I'm happy for you guys.

[Katie Nolan]

Are you, Isabella? I am. Thank you. I really appreciate that.

[Isabella]

I told you one of the. I want to know why I think I had it's. I. I'm a witch. It's another spell. I told you that. The reason why they're doing well.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Is because I was wearing for like a week.

[Katie Nolan]

You did tell me this.

[Isabella]

The sweatshirt that I have, that's a Super bowl sweatshirt.

[Katie Nolan]

Isabella has like an old super bowl sweatshirt of the Patriots.

[Isabella]

Yeah, it's Patriots against.

[Katie Nolan]

Where did it come from?

[Isabella]

My uncle, like, it was like one year, I was like, I. I needed a sweatshirt or something and he let me borrow it, and I've just had it ever since.

[Katie Nolan]

She has no ide. Yeah, she's got, like, adorable or like, really probably valuable merch. The part of the story that. That caused me the most pause is that she said, oh, yeah, I wear a pat sweatshirt to bed. And I was like, bro, you wearing a sweatshirt to bed? And she said, sometimes I do. And then I end up taking it off, I imagine.

[Isabella]

Yeah. End up taking off in the middle of the night.

[Katie Nolan]

And I get that they can be.

[Isabella]

Snuggly, but I will say that sweatshirt, this. That one is like, it's old. So, like, it's really thinned out. You know how, like, sweatshirts always over time, like, get thinner? So it's not really like a hot sweatshirt.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Yeah. I still don't think I could wear a sweatshirt to bed.

[Isabella]

Okay, well, then that's you.

[Katie Nolan]

That is me. And that's why God makes all the individual special flowers. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you to Beth Stelling for coming by. Wonderful. All the things I said about her. Go find her specials. Go to the Bell house this weekend if you're in town and just look for her in general because she really is so great, so funny, so smart, so wonderful. And that's it, right? I don't have to say anything, anything else. I always forget what I'm supposed to say at the end here. But I think we've, I really think we've covered it all. So we'll see you back here next week again on Tuesday. And then we'll have that fun Thanksgiving episode that we told you about dropping on Thursday. So we love you. We mean it. Have a good weekend. We'll see you next week.

[Beth Stelling]

Bye.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Beth Stelling]

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