
Hello! It's the podcast that never feels like a plastic bag drifting in the wind. On today's episode, Katie breaks down the extraterrestrial cringe of Katy Perry's brief trip to the suburbs of space, then comedian Jon Gabrus [14:11] joins to talk about rugby, darts, and how he could benefit the LA Olympics, Rory McIlroy's Masters win and what that means to all of your father-in-laws, cell phone etiquette in 2025, the Islanders selling the same tickets twice, the Savannah Bananas, the Harlem Globetrotters and whether Yankee Stadium does indeed suck, JD Vance, suggestive football trophies, and couch lore, a deep dive on Temptation Island and the multiple Wahlbergs, Shedeur Sanders, the Giants, and the NFL Draft, and some final thoughts from Wendy's on the Katstronaut.
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Isabella
Hey Isabella, did you see we got a call back from your boy Bro from Austin.
Bro/Ambrosio
Hey, it's Bro from Austin calling back. Started listening to today's EP and Isabella's out sick, so I decided I'd just call in instead. Couple things. One, I got drugged for my name. My name is Ambrosio. I coach a bunch of youth sports, so I usually go by bro or coach Bro. It's easier for the kids. Okay, so that's where bro comes from. And funnily enough, Isabella is my sister's name as well. I was spot on. The gap from Isabella was incredible. Where are we at with magic? I mean, come on, who's given that take on a sports spot? And finally, to answer Isabella's question about getting into football, I would strongly recommend looking at some local sports. So going to high school games or college games nearby, watching amateurs do it make it a lot more impressive when you see the pros do it. So definitely piece of advice there. Also, happily married. So Isabella, good luck on your future endeavors.
Isabella
Did that come up?
Bro/Ambrosio
Is not on the list for that. So last time I got drugged, but I guess I'll say it again. Love you. Bye.
Isabella
No, we love you. We love you. We love you. I love the etymology of bro. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Katie Nolan
You know, I kept thinking about you afterwards and I was like, maybe bro is sp spelled like B, R, E.
Isabella
A, U. I thought the same thing. Oh, the X. Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Like yeah, maybe. What is that, French?
Isabella
Sure, bro. Tigers.
Katie Nolan
I love that. He said, he said his sister's name is Isabella, Right.
Isabella
Yeah. This feels like an inside job. I feel like this is.
Katie Nolan
Maybe we're like. What is that called? Like, karmic soulmates.
Isabella
Sure.
Katie Nolan
Maybe platonic, though.
Isabella
I.
Katie Nolan
Because, I mean, sure, I'm glad you're married, but I'm also taken, so I.
Isabella
Don'T remember if that came up, but I also have a really short memory. Here's my thing. I'm trying to picture you at a high school football game.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Having a tough love.
Katie Nolan
That suggestion. I would feel a little weird being at a high school. Unless it's like, a family member's.
Isabella
Yeah. Byok. Bring your own kid.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. College. I don't really care for it too much actually, though, I was thinking that maybe Madden might get me into football.
Isabella
Okay. So wait, are you. Do you play video games?
Katie Nolan
I sometimes. Like, not. Like, I'm not like a gamer. I play like, maybe like one or two games here and there.
Isabella
Like what?
Katie Nolan
Okay. I play fall guys.
Isabella
Okay.
Katie Nolan
I love that game. I haven't played in a while, though. The current game, though, that I am playing, it's taking a while just because it's like my attention span. Like, Tik Tok's really messing with my brain.
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Is Stray. You know that one with the cat?
Isabella
I loved Stray. I tell people to play Stray, folks. It's a cat. You're a cat. You play as a cat with a little backpack on that lets you talk to the little robot.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. As soon as I discovered that game, I was like, this is. This is getting me into video games. Like, this is the vibe that I really like. But yeah, Madden, I'm like, maybe I could get into the game.
Isabella
Okay, yeah, maybe that's not a bad idea. Much better than going to a middle school football game.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, bro.
Isabella
Can't suggest. Hey, bro. It's not going to happen. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that's only a little bit about sports. So if you don't like it, it's okay. Stick around. This is how you'll. This is how you learn about what's going on sports without having to be bored. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host, joined today by an incredible guest who will be here in just a moment, John Gabris. He is. You may know him from Guy Code on mtv, which also Dan was on a bunch of stuff. He's ucb. He was the first. My experience with John Gabris. He was the first person I saw do improv well. And if you've had that experience, it's transformative. So in my eyes, one of the funniest people I've ever met. And he's here today and we're gonna make him talk about sports. So I'm excited for that. If you want to reach us, our email is casual Katie nolan gmail.com DID YOU KNOW. Did you know that Our voicemail is 646-801-0043? And on IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. We start off every pod where we just let me yap. I've invited the gang to sort of join in on this one today if they want to, because I think we all. I think we were all very excited yesterday when girls finally went to space. Life's different now. The ladies have gone to the wild Blue Blue yond, um, for what I believe is the first time. I don't know, Sally Ride didn't exist. And now we have girls doing it. Sisters are doing it for themselves. And by it, I mean going up to space for 10 minutes. Blue Origin. We talked about this previously on this podcast. The Amazon company has sent a crew, quote, unquote, crew of passengers, women, all into space. Among them we had Katy Perry, Gail King and and Lauren Sanchez, who we've also previously discussed on this podcast, engaged to Jeff Bezos and previously made a child, I don't remember if they were married or not, with Tony Gonzalez. So the. The listen, Dan and I put on BBC for Myrtle when we leave the house because she likes to be informed, but not. She doesn't know which news to trust. So we put on that b international news. And yesterday as we were getting ready to leave for the respective things we had to do, we saw we were going to catch live the Blue Origin launch, sending Katy Perry up into space. And it was a quite a spectacle, I will say. On a personal note, tough look for my girl, Karissa Thompson, a woman that has worked in sports. I love Carissa Thompson. She currently hosts Thursday Night Football. She's on that panel on Amazon. And so, of course, with that relationship, I believe she was tapped to basically be the sideline reporter of this launch. And I didn't love that. For her, it seemed like a pretty tough gig, especially for a woman Chris said does not like sidelining. We've discussed this at length. It's not a thing that she's into. She's more of a host. And this was sidelining a gig of, you know, I don't know what she was told to say or what she had to say. I'm not going to make any sort Of. I just will say that at one point to Lauren Sanchez, she said this adds to your already long list of accomplishments or something about like your long list of. You can add astronaut to the long list of titles on your resume. And I struggled to think of one. I don't know, maybe she has done a lot of things. I don't think that when we think of Lauren Sanchez, we're like, yes, author, you know, a professor. I don't, I can't think of the. I think of. I think of her being engaged to Jeff Bezos. I, again, that's not saying she hasn't done things. It's just, I don't think we're going Long resume. Gayle King looked scared the whole time. I'm glad they made it down just for the sake of. That this was, this felt. Did this feel to you guys, like just the most out of touch with what's going on in the world. Look, I know publicity stunts aren't new, but this one felt very.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it was like very random. On the agenda.
Isabella
Who's this for? It's tax day. Like, can we. Maybe we got other stuff to worry about.
Katie Nolan
I filed my taxes yesterday. Guys.
Isabella
I can't be looking at you going up into space telling me your set list for your tour. Katy Perry. I don't.
Katie Nolan
Can I just say I've been dying to say this. The video of them like kissing the earth when they came out of the aircraft. I couldn't help but think of like, they're definitely wearing either lipstick or lip gloss and they kissed a sandy ground.
Isabella
And I don't even like going outside when it's windy with lip gloss or.
Katie Nolan
Having the windows open. So they were definitely like, yeah, you know?
Isabella
Yeah. And Katy Perry getting down to the ground and then holding up into the sky a tiny flower. You. You were as close as you were going to get up there when you were up there. Don't do that on the ground. You can't reach that high. Now it's about. She said she feels closer to love than ever before. And I just hope love is a neighbor of like truth and reality so that she can walk next door and. And see that this is ridiculous. Look, there were other women on the flight that I believe were closer to being qualified to being on a flight like this. That whose names I'm not saying that's out of respect for them. I don't want them associated with the farce. That was a 10 minute draw uber ride. The world's most expensive Uber to the edge of space. I don't know, man, I bet it is cool to look down at earth and see that like blue glow or to look over at the moon and see it closer than you've ever seen it. I'm not saying that's not probably really a cool experience. It. Did it need to be on the news? Did Oprah need to be there? Did we have to drag out Kris Jenner from whatever coffin she sleeps in to be here at this event? What was this? What was this? Hello. What was this? And why was this? And, and, and I imagine it was expensive and that it used a lot of gasoline. So I guess I'm glad it gave us Katy Perry saying science related words in an interview. She was just tossing out stem phrases, talking about, I don't know, theories and pythagoras. And you're like, Katie, I don't think any of this has to. She said she was most looking forward to learning about the math. I don't think. I don't think they teach you much of that.
Katie Nolan
That's really what this was. It gave us content.
Isabella
I wanted someone to puke. Can I be honest? I wanted the door to open when they got back down to Earth. The fuck. And just have. Yes. And have. I just wanted like, I want Gail to come out ashamed and look down and go, it was a great ride. I'm. It was very scary and just to be covered in vomit. I just wanted there to be some element that made that grounded this in reality because it felt so strange. Just like it feels so strange that like, Em, Rada and I are on the same page on this, which is that it was silly and dumb and I. And I hated it. I hated it. And I won't be treat. And look, I. I'll. It doesn't even take a lot to get me to go like, this isn't a cool accomplishment for women. This isn't that I won't be doing that. I don't think this was a cool accomplishment for us at all. I think it was. I think they're going to be made fun of for a while. I think as with most things on the Internet, it will get too misogynistic and it won't be fun anymore. But while we're still here in this early period, I just want to say that was ridiculous. And what a time. What a time to be alive. That's your yap. I'm also gonna absolutely, at some point ask Gabris about this as well, because surely he has thoughts on Katy Perry becoming. Making herself a firework. Our state has changed a lot in the last 140 years. We know because Multicare has been here guided by a single purpose, making our communities healthier. That comes from making courageous decisions, partnering with local communities to grow programs and services, and expanding healthcare access to those who need it most. Together, we're building a healthier future. Learn more@mycare.org.
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John Gabris
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John Gabris
That's correct. That is the name. You got it correct. I'm so proud of you.
Isabella
Thank you.
John Gabris
Yeah, I'm officially in the Serious fam. Welcome. Me, you, Howard. We're living the dream over here.
Isabella
Yeah, just the three of us. That's what people think when they we're at the top.
John Gabris
Where are the three headshots when you walk into the studio?
Isabella
Yes, you and I may be two of the newest people that are Exactly.
John Gabris
My podcast as of today isn't even out.
Isabella
Oh good. But it is live.
John Gabris
It's live. The feed is live.
Isabella
So you can go subscribe and leave the 15 because I'm gonna drop one. The 15th five star review that you.
John Gabris
Honestly just review it in any way. I can't believe it's got five stars and no one's even listened to anything but the trailer. But I still am here for it.
Isabella
It's worth it though because you are consistently funny. Unless you've stopped, which we will find out today.
John Gabris
Oh yeah, no. You're gonna be here for a rude awakening. You haven't seen me in a while. No, I lost it.
Isabella
They say you can't turn it off. Found the button.
John Gabris
Yeah, I found the button. Can't figure out to turn it back on. The world has brought me down.
Isabella
Let's lead off this podcast letting people know your fandoms. What is your where do you stand with sports? Letting you know that it is. You're totally welcome to not like them at all. We've had people who don't watch sports at all on this podcast.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
So don't feel any sort of pressure to claim anything. But you're from Long Island.
John Gabris
I'm from Long Island. I'm a casual. I'm a perfect guest for this podcast because I have opinions and we'll talk about them. But also I am very much a casual sports fan. With the exception I would say is like I watch a lot of New York Giants games. I get boo. I'm more of. Yeah, sorry, it's a quiet little boo. Yeah. I can't help but notice you're a patriot and that's a little point of pride for your boy here based on how many Cape Cod ass hammer neck friends I have.
Isabella
All you have beating us twice.
John Gabris
I married a Boston guy. I married a Boston guy. I officiated a Boston friend's wedding and I wore a tie that I had custom made of the helmet. Catch. Everyone at the wedding was pissed and when they got drunk, like the uncles were real mad.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And I'm like, sorry, oops. We barely win except against you guys.
Isabella
I can't be mad. I'm a man of the cloth.
John Gabris
Universal Unitarian Life Church minister Jonathan Gabris. So yeah, I'm a Giants fan. And much like it's, it's. It gets complicated on Long island because a lot of people are Jets, Mets, a lot of people are Giants Yankees.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
I'm a Giants Yankees family. In. In my anecdotal experience growing up on Long island, it was Jewish kids were Jets, Mets, and the Italian kids were Giants Yankees. And I don't know if that's actually if I'm being if I'm redlining Sports or something like that. Islanders fan, of course, but never, like, I don't fully follow hockey. And then I'm a. I support the Knicks, but I. Basketball is, for me, one of the hardest sports to watch. And all of my friends are big basketball heads and they're constantly trying to get me into it.
Isabella
Same. And they're all like, it's the easiest sport to watch. And I'm like, something's not clicking.
John Gabris
I do like the ability of seeing everyone's face. It's a little bit more character y and interesting. But for me, I have a hard time watching sports because I like to watch, like, TV and movies, too. And sports became such a burden to watch the game and then also watch the highlights and the feedback and know more. It got to be. I was making it overwhelming for myself. And then as a Giants fan, if you. For the last five years, if you spent four hours on a Sunday seeing what your boys were up to, your Sunday night and Monday sucked pretty hard. I had to, like, build, like, a barrier for myself where I'm like, you know what? How about White Lotus and Righteous Gemstones as my Sunday night.
Isabella
Yeah, that's my football.
John Gabris
Yeah, that works much better for me.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And then also, I've been since I was like, 18 now. Jesus Christ. Like, 25 years ago, I started playing rugby. Yeah, I know. I just made myself nauseous trying to remember that. I've been a rugby player for a long time, and I've been a fan of that sport.
Isabella
That's cool.
John Gabris
Yeah, I'm a huge fan of watching the sport of sevens, which is like kind of a new.
Isabella
Yeah, yeah.
John Gabris
The Olympics.
Isabella
We all watch the Olympics.
John Gabris
Yeah, that. That is a culture I've been a big fan of for. Because you can go to a weekend. There's actually one coming up in LA May 3rd and 4th. But the sevens weekend tournaments are some of the most fun. It's men and women, and by Sunday, you're getting the championships. And it's new. It's not only new teams every 15 minutes. It's new. It's new. Full on cultures like crazy. You're just. I'm like, at Candlestick park or whatever. I'm in Petco park in San Francisco. Is that the one in San Francisco?
Isabella
San Diego's Petco, which is the one.
John Gabris
In San Francisco where you hit the water into.
Isabella
Is it still called Oracle, where the.
John Gabris
Kayakers hang out to catch baseballs? Yeah, I saw.
Isabella
Shoot, I should know that.
John Gabris
I saw a rugby tournament there one weekend and I was like, wow, There are so many Fijians in norcal. And, like, you just get to experience these. And people dress up for them, like in, like, weird. Not. Some people wear, like, traditional clothing of their country. And then some people are like, here's 20 white guys dressed as wrestlers. Yeah, Sick. And it's wild culture. The culture around it is so fun. Culture for players is really fun. And then the culture around being a fan of rugby is awesome. And here's my little tidbit. I'm not just saying this because present company is a woman, but that one of the favorite things about rugby is it's the only sport that changes zero rules for the women.
Isabella
Oh, that is sick.
John Gabris
No, no different size pitch, no different time, no different positions, no different gear. Everything is exactly the same.
Isabella
Girls go do it.
John Gabris
And even the girls even call. Being frequently called. Being the MVP is called man of the match. They still use that, which I think is badass.
Isabella
That is. That's interesting.
John Gabris
Yeah, take that title, but we'll take it.
Isabella
That's fun. We're trying to get into some more obscure sports. We're getting. We're on a darts kick.
John Gabris
Oh, okay.
Isabella
There's this kid in darts, Luke Litler, who's, I guess, really blowing up the scene. He's, like, young, and that's the.
John Gabris
Like, I don't give a. About darts. But you just tell me there's something like competency porn. You just tell me there's someone who's really good at it. And I'm like, I gotta check this guy out, you know?
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
All of a sudden. And. And then especially darts or like, bowling or something you've done before or that.
Isabella
You think could convince yourself that, like, if you gave me a month, I could get really good at this. Which is not true.
John Gabris
It's not true at all. But even if you've just thrown darts once, you can, like, watch the person do darts and go like, oh, yeah, that's really fucking hard. It's time to. You, like, try something, you know?
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
Like, I forget who said it, but someone once said, like, there should just be a normal guy in the laps in the Olympics just to see, like, that's how fast you would actually.
Isabella
You're picturing that you'd be the guy in fifth. You wouldn't.
John Gabris
You'd be this guy over. Exactly.
Isabella
And you have no idea. Yeah, they should bring that. They should make that. That a thing. Just have one regular in every sport. It'd be pretty dangerous in some sports, I think.
John Gabris
You know what? I would like to offer myself up if anyone from the NBC Universal family is watching, I will come to la. You don't have to pay for my travel. I'll be at the LA Olympics.
Isabella
That's right.
John Gabris
I live over there.
Isabella
Be a mess.
John Gabris
Yeah, it's a disaster. I can't believe you guys are still coming.
Isabella
I can't believe that's happening.
John Gabris
Please bring fire trucks, and I bring fire trucks and open and affordable housing, and then we should be okay.
Isabella
I'm sure they will. That's what the Olympics are known to do. They really bring a lot of people.
John Gabris
They don't hollow out a city where you now, oh, great, now we have nine pools.
Isabella
They don't hide the homeless somewhere for a few weeks and then. And then bring them back.
John Gabris
They don't bury the fucking underpaid workers who died building stadiums. No, no, that's never happened.
Isabella
That's never happened.
John Gabris
But I would like the volunteer to be like, hey, look, here's our resident Joe, Average Joe doing the pole vault. Okay? Now here are the people who are good at it, so shut up.
Isabella
I'll do the Winter Olympics. You can do the summer, I'll do the winter. I'll die on a ski jump.
John Gabris
Just so people know it, Katie's here.
Isabella
To tell you it's difficult because she broke her neck on her first attempt.
John Gabris
Pulls through your neck after it. It's actually really hard.
Isabella
I wouldn't try it.
John Gabris
Good luck out there. Eddie the Eagle.
Isabella
Are you a golf guy?
John Gabris
I am.
Isabella
Because you have golf energy.
John Gabris
I have big golf energy.
Isabella
Like fun golf energy.
John Gabris
Yes, I. It's funny that I don't golf.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
I actually hate it.
Isabella
Me too.
John Gabris
And I actually kind of hate the entire premise of it. The conceit of it, everything. It's like, fundamentally, like maybe an explainer of what's wrong with American society, but at the same time, I'm around people who love golf so much that, you know, it's hard not to get a little osmosis. Yeah, I'm staying with my cousin out here, and he's like a golf freak. And the Masters have been on all week long.
Isabella
Matt. It's golf freak week. This is their thing.
John Gabris
It's freak week at the 19th hole. Put your Rory visor on and come on out. Half price. John Daly's in the fucking whatever.
Isabella
Whatever it is. What do they call the.
John Gabris
I was gonna say commissary, but that is cannot be the right thing.
Isabella
So they are very specific terms for things, and they usually are not jail adjacent. So I think that they probably call it the food Court, I don't know.
John Gabris
I would say watching golf, while I cannot give a fuck about the results, very peaceful viewing process.
Isabella
Very soothing. It's a good nap watch.
John Gabris
It's a good hangover. Like, I gotta lay here and look at my phone and, you know, watch women deadlift on my for you page.
Isabella
While that's what your for your page is.
John Gabris
If I showed you my for your page, you would be legally allowed to arrest me.
Isabella
I love that.
John Gabris
Yeah. I don't know what I did. I think I've been away from home for a little too long. And my for you page is like. Like, we know what you like. You like rock climbing and titties.
Isabella
Oh, my God. Amazing.
John Gabris
But watching the Masters, first of all, I think golf coverage, like, not to be the TV media nut here, but golf coverage is awesome. Yeah, they do a really good job because of. You can always just see someone going for a hit. Like, it's always just like, oh, so and so's up. He's great. Look at this. Okay. While he walks that ball, here, let me show you three other people killing it.
Isabella
Which always makes me go, which of this is live? Is any of this that happened and I missed it? That's what I hate, the fomo.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah, the time.
Isabella
Like, am I watching? Am I at a music festival watching the wrong band? Should I be over watching this?
John Gabris
Oh, watching it live I think would give me too much anxiety. You gotta, like, follow. But I really, like, I enjoy the kind of energy of, you know, like. And wow, he got a real chipper on that one, you know, like the vibe asmr. Yeah, like, watching it is very peaceful. And then when you try to watch football, it's like Cletus is like dancing in the front. There's like, we brought. Brought to you BY the Navy SEALs who killed Osama bin Laden. It's the Navy flyover of the Minnesota. And it's like, everything is like. Watching football feels so, like, assaultive in a way. And then when you put on golf, it's like. And they have, like. They have, like, weird vocab, too. It's like, ooh, we got a real nanny poo here. And you're like, oh, that's beautiful.
Isabella
Oh, a nanny poo on nine.
John Gabris
Nine on.
Isabella
Never seen a nanny.
John Gabris
Rory got a nanny poo on nine. That's gonna be big news.
Isabella
But since we are responsible for telling people the sports news, Rory McElroy did win the Masters. This was his 16th attempt. I mean, what a way to phrase it. After 16 failed attempts at winning The Masters? Yeah.
John Gabris
It's all. She didn't. Is it one of those things? I don't know how the golf rankings work, but going to the Masters is a victory in and of itself.
Isabella
I would think.
John Gabris
Yeah. It's not like I can.
Isabella
Right.
John Gabris
I learned this weekend. My mom is in the lpg. Lpga.
Isabella
What?
John Gabris
And I was like, mom, how are you? She's like, you kind of have to join to be in this league. I'm like, but isn't it the Professional Golfers Association? She's like, yeah. I'm like, mom, there's no way you're in the lpga. Can she be. She's not a good golfer. She just started taking lessons, like, a year ago. But she tells me she's. And maybe she's joined some organization to be able to golf or something like that, but I can't imagine it's the lpga.
Isabella
Can you. Can somebody be background Googling this while we continue to talk? Because that is. Your mom's either getting scammed, and I'd like us to figure it out.
John Gabris
That is the most likely. Katie, it's so funny you say that. The frequency in which I text my brothers. I have two younger brothers, and they live on. On the island of my mom. So a frequency in which we're texting. I go, hey, did mom tell you about the iPad she bought? And they were like, yeah, I think it's a scam. Or, like, you know, like, she bought. Bought it at the nail salon off a guy. It's like, oh, no. She's like, my mom keeps going. It's. He said it was jailbroke. I'm like, mom, you don't know what that means.
Isabella
Oh, this means we have an answer.
G
It could be the LPGA images.
John Gabris
Ooh.
Isabella
So you have. It's like, something that you have to join in order to. Was she saying in order to play wherever she plays?
John Gabris
I couldn't imagine my mom would pay for something she didn't have to ever.
Isabella
That's interesting.
G
Interesting wrinkle, because according to the LPGA Amateur website, it says. Are you looking for a community of women to play golf with? Would you like to belong to the LPGA family?
Isabella
Okay.
G
You can do that through the LPGA amateurs.
John Gabris
Okay. That's probably, like, what she might be. Yeah. This is where I find out. My mom's, like, sponsored by Pig.
Isabella
Actually, she's on the tour.
John Gabris
She's got. She's got the long ball. Yeah.
Isabella
She does the Happy Gilmore swing like. Mom, I didn't know you even. What is that. So Rory McElroy wins the Masters. He almost blew it. That was kind of the big story that he was. Which I guess he's done before. In 2011. He lost a four shot lead on the final day with a 43 on the back nine. These numbers mean something to someone somewhere?
John Gabris
Oh, yeah, no, it's some numerology freak is going off. Yeah, the, the, the level of familiarity I have with golf and I'm staying with a golf fan right now. It's just the only way I'm getting anything is that he's like, rory had a hell of a day. How is he? Minus 12 is what I remember hearing a lot. He must have had said one hell of a. So if I was talking to like a father in law or something, that's what golf is.
Isabella
Father in law conversation material.
John Gabris
Oh, dude, I am, I am such a pro at like, yeah, Rory had a day, huh? And it's like, I know. And then I'm good enough liar and improviser to just go balls in your court.
Isabella
I never even thought, let it go. Being good at improv means you can just start the convo with one nugget and then work off.
John Gabris
I had millions of conversations I didn't want to have in my life on stage and off. So like I'm just, oh, I'm so good with like, like a person whose energy is off putting to most people. I'm like, well, I'll just straight man this conversation till it ends. Yeah.
Isabella
What a useful guy. Oh, what a guy to know and have around.
John Gabris
It really is helpful for me. It like protects me in a way where I, I can like not have to get too deep with, you know, like, yeah, my, my wife has like no boundaries. So like she'll be talking to someone. She's like, I get that the cash register from Target needs to sleep in our house. And I'm like, what the. Like, how did this happen? Meanwhile, she's like, you talked to that guy for like six hours. What'd you talk about? I'm like, no idea. I'm just all superficial.
Isabella
Is it John or Jack? I don' I don't even think I was sure of that.
John Gabris
He had a little spit in the corner of his mouth.
Isabella
That's all I remember the worst. Can you guys please, if you're talking for a long time, just check. Just everybody should every now and then check the corners of your mouth.
John Gabris
I'm begging you, stay hydrated. I don't need to give you another neuroses. But yeah, that, that little chalky mouth corner is, is for the birds.
Isabella
Brutal. Because no one wants to. What are you gonna say? You've got a little bit of chalkiness in the corner of your mouth. There's no way to say it.
John Gabris
You're like talking to someone.
Isabella
Go, do this, do this, go like this, go like this, go like this.
John Gabris
Yeah. Take a sip of water and come back.
Isabella
Oh, God. Embarrassing. McElroy set a misters. A misters. He set a Misters record. When the girls do it, it's the Mrs.
John Gabris
I. I would love to. I'm competing in the misters. What is that? Well, we're all guys who are having affairs and golfing.
Isabella
He set a master's record as the first champion to make four double bogeys. I imagine that's a record you don't wanna make, right?
John Gabris
Because double bogey is a bad one, right?
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
That's double over, two over par or.
Isabella
Some shit, something like that. It's many over par. I've scored a lot of them in we golf.
John Gabris
I can tell you that my familiar with, my familiarity with golf stems from Sony PlayStation's Hotshots Golf in 2002.
Isabella
So one of the premier golf video games. I do think the conversation around the Masters that interested me was, did you know they're not allowed to have their phones? No. At the Masters.
John Gabris
Yes.
Isabella
I love that they have a phone.
John Gabris
I love that.
Isabella
See, I don't know.
John Gabris
David Chappelle rules.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
They gotta put them in the yonder bag.
Isabella
Exactly. It's like, you're not gonna. I wonder if they do. I think they tell them not to bring them. And Brady, our producer's argument was that it's because people can't be trusted to silence their phones.
John Gabris
It's one brother, Brady, you are correct. I went to a Broadway show.
Isabella
Oh, no.
John Gabris
And five different people's phones, full on, rang.
Isabella
Embarrassing.
John Gabris
And one of them rang all the way through while he was looking for it. He didn't find it. And then the person called again and that's this.
Isabella
Almost somebody died.
John Gabris
I, I, you almost hope. Yeah.
Isabella
You can't be mad. It was a death.
John Gabris
I don't even think it registered to these people that what they were doing was rude. And to me it's like the craziest thing in the world.
Isabella
I don't understand ever turning the volume on on my phone. I don't think I had the volume on on my phone unless it's like waiting for a really important call or if I have to go do something and I don't want to be Checking my phone.
John Gabris
I'll turn 5:30am flight. It's like, let me make sure the volume's turned.
Isabella
Else is the volume of your phone. These are the people who, when they type a text message, it's going click, click, click, click.
John Gabris
My mom has that on her phone and I'm like, ma, turn that off. She's like, jesus, Jonathan, I don't know how I'm like this. I've turned it off like four times. I, I, I visit like every couple of months.
Isabella
Yeah. You must know how, cuz you keep.
John Gabris
Figuring out how to someone I put it back on. Yeah. Oh man. This is where I feel like an old man is when people can't just put their phones away. Can't put them on silent. A guy. I went to go see the Minecraft movie with my nephews.
Isabella
Oh boy.
John Gabris
I am a big movie fan. I don't give a about Minecraft.
Isabella
Right.
John Gabris
But I was very exc. My two young nephews and I could go to the movies together because that's like, I'm like, I love this experience. I'd love to teach these young kids to have enough attention span to watch. And I'm like, Minecraft will do it.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And then in front of me is like three dads and their kids are sitting in front of them and one of the dads is just watching Formula one on his phone and then the movie starts and he just keeps it on and it's like the brightness is like too much. And I'm also, and I'm, I'm giving him that. If it was like, you know, another movie and it was all adults there, I would say something to the person because it was distracting. But because kids are screaming chicken jockey and shit at the top of their lungs, it's totally manageable.
Isabella
But I was also like, turn your brightness down. Put it on your lap. Be ashamed a little bit.
John Gabris
Be ashamed a little bit. Or I was even, I was so deep on hating this guy that I was like, connect with your fucking kid.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
Watch the movie and talk to him about it on the car ride home rather than like, take a break from Formula one. Yeah, it's a fucking car. There's a.
Isabella
Was it eight in the morning? What time?
John Gabris
I know, dude. And I'm just like, I'm, I kept looking at his phone and I was getting so worked up and it's just like every time you look over, it's just a car driver and it is.
Isabella
Just a car driving. And that's no offense. I know Formula one's pretty Popular. Popular. And it's not nascar. They're not going in a circle. But it is just a car driving that you're watching. You could probably catch those highlights.
John Gabris
That's when I start to feel like an old man is when I'm like, Jesus Christ. It's two hours out of the day. Can't you just shut your phone off and watch? Your son is here. Spend time with your son. And that's. I was, like, so proud of my nephews for, like, almost.
Isabella
Did they put their phones away?
John Gabris
They don't have phones. But yes.
Isabella
Good.
John Gabris
They. They were able to focus. They. My one. The younger nephew doesn't fully understand movie theater etiquette, obviously, because he's like six.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
But what he. What I did.
Isabella
Movie theaters were basically just invented to him. They didn't exist for the first six years of his life anyway.
John Gabris
Couldn't go anywhere safely. He does this thing where if I laugh at something, he realizes, like, and then he, like, repeats it or, like, does a bit on it. And I'm like, Joseph, you are a smart one.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
He's like. Can tell. He's like.
Isabella
He's like. I don't quite understand why he's laughing, but I want more because he's laughing. I'm gonna go farm that.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Elsewhere. Swear I. I will say I did. Like, when you see the shots of the crowd at the Masters that no one's on their phone looking. That is cool.
John Gabris
Ken Griffey Jr. Is out there with a DS, like a Nikon or whatever.
Isabella
Crazy. When it was like, a picture of the winner, and it was like, take a photo courtesy of Ken Griffey Jr. Like, what?
John Gabris
So awesome. That's like one of my favorite second half of a career moves besides Kareem Abdul Jabbar being in the writer's room for the Veronica Mars reboot.
Isabella
Oh, yeah.
John Gabris
That to me is. I'm like, you're sitting in the writer's room and Lou Al Cinder has his feet up on. What do you want to order? Legend. Bruce Lee's training partner. Yeah.
Isabella
Didn't Randy Johnson also do photography? I think.
John Gabris
I think you're right. I think you're right.
Isabella
I think so. So that's fun.
John Gabris
He should take pictures of birds as penance for killing them.
Isabella
Yes. He owes them the apiary community.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Swing.
John Gabris
That might be bees.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
Well, we need to worry about Randy Johnson. The Big Year unit. Take care of the bees.
Isabella
I mean, so many ways his name means penis. It's just like, are you big?
John Gabris
I mean, Randy Johnson. Horny.
Isabella
Penis.
John Gabris
Austin Powers undercover name.
Isabella
Yeah, it's wild. Certainly not the first to point that out. NBA, you just said you didn't really care that much. But we are going to say it's the playoff pictures set it. The season's over. The Cleveland, Cleveland Cavaliers and then the Oklahoma City Thunder. Those are the two best records in the east and west respectively. The play in tournament. This is where what fascinates me doing this play in tournament that starts Tuesday night and then the opening round of the postseason starts on Saturday. The play in tournament started in 2020 as cuz, you know, it was weird. Everything was weird.
John Gabris
Times were weird. Yeah, we were trying things.
Isabella
Yeah. We were like let's we'll do it this way. And then it, it changed to what it is now. What fascinates me about the play in tournament is it doesn't count as postseason and it does not count as regular season. Statistically, it is just like, like a purgatory.
John Gabris
Right. So your buckets and your season stats.
Isabella
They are not season stats. They're just nothing.
John Gabris
Now talk me or walk me through this a little bit. It's a chance for player teams that didn't make the playoffs to potentially make.
Isabella
It's just like figure out the last couple kind of. It's to figure out who the last couple teams are. So instead of just saying it's these teams based on their records or whatever ever, they say it's these teams and then these last teams get to duke it out for a chance to be the last ones to make it in.
John Gabris
Oof. Brutal. You finally win to get in, then you got to win through all the playoffs too.
Isabella
That's sounds hard like if you win. So there's one game, one team will have to win twice to get into the chance to play in the tournament against the number one seed. I believe or no, you, you can lose and I, I don't know. It's very complicated.
John Gabris
Yeah, no, that's another thing too. Like it's complicated and then trying to be a basketball fan. There are so many games even like and the playoffs are so many games.
Isabella
Well, you're talking to a baseball fan. So I can't even be like yeah, too many games. Because baseball has. It's every day.
John Gabris
Baseball has too many games. But it doesn't feel like you have to watch them.
Isabella
Yes. It's sort of like hey, we're going to play this game. Don't worry about it.
John Gabris
It's like, it's like the marathon. It's like check in every mile.
Isabella
Yeah, we're Going to get this out. We're going to actually get this out of the way during the day.
John Gabris
Yeah. We're going to do these while you're at work, and then ye can watch the highlights tonight.
Isabella
You can about it when you see that the. Your team, the Red sox lost, what, 16 to 1 yesterday. I mean, brutal. An absolutely brutal score. A brutal score for a lady just publicly said she was super into baseball. I was like, I think I'm back.
John Gabris
And then I don't follow baseball. But it does feel good to hear the Red Sox are losing.
Isabella
Yes. I'm happy to have given that to you. Okay, this is my big story of the week. And you are from Long Island Island.
John Gabris
Correct.
Isabella
And you publicly stated you were an Islanders fan. So this. This is relevant to you. Oh, so Alexander Ovechkin broke Gretzky's record at the Islanders. I don't know what their home arena.
John Gabris
It used to be the National Coliseum.
Isabella
Remember what it's called now? So that's where he did it. They put a QR code on the screen for attendees to basically say, if you would like a physical ticket of today to commemorate it, so you don't have to have a printout that says like, Ticketmaster and all the ads on it. With your printer paper, you can scan this QR code and we'll give you.
John Gabris
A ticket as, like, memorabilia. Because you were there when this record was broken.
Isabella
You were there when the record was broken. Come to find out, $45 they were charging no way to send you the physical copy of a ticket.
John Gabris
You paid. Paid for again. I don't want to. Let me put on my old man hat and say, the smartphone ification of sports and, like, concerts and stuff is also a disaster.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And makes it. I have, like 21 apps on my phone just to go see Modest mouse or something.
Isabella
They're like, make sure you have our app or else your ticket won't work. And you're like, what if you just gave me a piece of paper that had the ticket on it? Yeah.
John Gabris
And then it's like a screenshot of. That doesn't work. You have to log in. No.
Isabella
Turn your brightness up.
John Gabris
Yeah. Not Ticketmaster. You bought your ticket Ticketmaster. But this is an axs, you idiot.
Isabella
How don't you know this?
John Gabris
And then you're just like, in line at the metal detector. They're like, I. I gave you $400. Let me see the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please get me in there.
Isabella
Please.
John Gabris
Don't you have a lit.
Isabella
Can you just look at a list $45.
John Gabris
That's so twisted to print up a piece of paper. Oh, my God. I fucking.
Isabella
It makes me so mad. I already paid for the ticket. This should be illegal. You should not be allowed to charge me twice for a ticket to an event. Especially the event has already party happened.
John Gabris
You should be. They should mail you a copy of your ticket. Naturally, when you order one online, you should just get one in the mail. It's like, you don't even need to bring this. This is not legal tender or whatever, but this can go in your little book.
Isabella
Here's the ticket you paid for.
John Gabris
I miss movie stubs and I miss. I miss having my. Oh in my wallet. Oh, I still have this Weezer and Dashboard Confessional tickets. Yeah.
Isabella
I'm hearing us and I'm like, we're old.
John Gabris
I know listeners of the POD are probably like, this old. But I'm. I'm an analog boy living in a local media. Yeah.
Isabella
Like, if something were to happen to my PlayStation tomorrow, I have no video games. Like, if the network is down, which it was for like three days, it was unacceptable a couple months ago. I have no access to my game. Like, because they don't sell them to you physically anymore. You just download it. Same with my music is all on my phone.
John Gabris
I have so upsetting. Like, I can't deal with this. I'm going back full physical media. I have like a couple. Couple of containers, like Rubbermaid containers of DVDs and Blu Rays that are making their way back into the apartment.
Isabella
I'm thinking, I'm like, it's tough in New York. It is tough with no space to make space.
John Gabris
We don't have much space in LA either. And, you know, you run the risk of it just collapsing.
Isabella
Yeah. Being on fire.
John Gabris
You know, at any point, I'll load my. I got to get my Blu Rays into my car. My Blu Rays in my dog.
Isabella
Honestly, though, I feel like when the world ends, you guys are going to come want to hang out out with us because we will have records to play for you.
John Gabris
I'll be pedaling my little generator to play so we can play Sifu on my PlayStation.
Isabella
Dan played Sifu.
John Gabris
That's why it made me say it.
Isabella
Yeah. I wish I. It's. I like the conceit of it. I like that, like, every time you die, you get a little older and.
John Gabris
Get a little better and kind of neat. I was terrible at it.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
I think I would be bad at it. Too much requires too much fun. I need one layer more passivity. Passivity. No. Passiveness, passivity. That can't be true.
Isabella
Well, it is now.
John Gabris
Wait, they're in my ear saying I'm having a stroke. Okay, yeah, fair enough. Thank you.
Isabella
We. I will say we lost an IKEA table to Sifu, I believe. And now an IKEA table is very.
John Gabris
Yeah, I mean, that's like a seize on it. Yeah.
Isabella
It was made to be broken. There's a reason they're in that room.
John Gabris
Supposed to throw the ultimate warrior through it.
Isabella
Yes. But so I think the official statement here of the podcast and of you, Islanders fan, is like, fuck them for this, right?
John Gabris
Yeah. Get fucked. That's crazy. Did you not have enough money? Like, how much money do you need? You fucking.
Isabella
Also, a flurry of Ovechkin commemorative apparel and collectibles have already hit the market, of course, with offerings like trading cards from Upper Deck, including a set with pieces of the ceremonial carpet fabricated into them. Did you happen to be watching the game when this happened? No, I was, because I'm crazy and I love hockey. But they stopped the second period. It happened in, like, the middle of the second period. I want to. To say they stopped the game. They brought down Gretzky Ovechkin and his family. Well, he was on the ice. He scored the goal, but his family, they had to roll a carpet out because you can't walk on ice with your sneakers. And it was like, 20 minutes.
John Gabris
I don't. Like.
Isabella
Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the league, felt he should speak in the middle of the second period.
John Gabris
Did they have a concert coming in after? How does this not happen at the end of the game?
Isabella
I don't know.
John Gabris
That's too special of treatment. I'm so sorry.
Isabella
I agree. I'm cr.
John Gabris
If I'm Ovechkin in this moment, I want to be like, guys, I go, this is hockey player. Yes, please.
Isabella
I'm embarrassed.
John Gabris
Like, literally, like, your mom is coming out like, you did. You scored. Jonathan, my son.
Isabella
I have to, like, keep my son focused because he's a child and it's the middle of a hockey game and he's on the ice.
John Gabris
That you can do it right at the end.
Isabella
I know, but maybe it's because they thought it wasn't at home, so I thought people wouldn't stick around, but it's like, it's hockey history.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
If you care enough to be at the game and to have spent however much money it was. They were charging for tickets before the 40s. The whole thing is upsetting to me.
John Gabris
Yeah. And we haven't even Touched on the fact that, oh, it cost me extra to have this playing card with carpet stitched into it. Get, man. Yeah, get out of here. I'd much rather walk outside and buy, like, a shirt that has Oveskin's name spelled wrong from, like, a West Indian guy who, like, printed up a ton.
Isabella
To make some money more authentic.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
He needed this money.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
This didn't come from fanatics, which. Which, by the way, I should mention, because I don't think we have yet. I don't know the beginning of this podcast is going to happen after the middle of it, but I've got my hands on a tata's hat.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. You. This is good, right?
Isabella
I think it looks.
John Gabris
I think that's how you're supposed to wear.
Isabella
This is actually how my fiance wears hats. He has the largest head you've ever seen.
John Gabris
Yes, I'm familiar with your fiance. We used to work together. Enormous head.
Isabella
Yeah, enormous head. But this is the Texas Rangers. They thought it would be a good idea to put the logo in the middle of the word Texas Texas, which made a new word. Which means boobs.
John Gabris
Yeah. Which is also crazy because, like, Dodgers and Tex. Texans. Fandom. Probably the most bilingual fandom out there.
Isabella
Right? We know exactly.
John Gabris
This is. Oh, oops. Did we accidentally print a booby hat? Oopsies. Do we sell a ton of them and then have to make a fake apology?
Isabella
Oopsies. Savannah Bananas. You ever heard of them?
John Gabris
Yes. They are all over my TikTok.
Isabella
Yeah, they're, like, fun. Oh, good. Something in your algorithm that's isn't.
John Gabris
Yeah, it shows up. I actually. I specifically like it to try to rattle my. If I'm like, I don't need any more, like, Busty MILF Dumbbell Press.
Isabella
I will say they are Savannah Bananas. Could be the Busty MILF Dumbbell Press. For girls that are.
John Gabris
I mean, they're all, like, hunky guys. They're doing dances.
Isabella
A lot of dancing.
John Gabris
The one I saw today had a insane first base, like, out at first base move where the umpire did a front flip and went, you're out of here. And I'm like. The umpire is, like, jazzing. It's awesome. Yeah.
Isabella
So it's basically. It's basically the Harlem Globetrotters, I guess, for baseball.
John Gabris
Yeah. Way wider, right?
Isabella
Yes. Yes. By a large margin.
John Gabris
It's almost as if the Harlem Globetrotters crossed with the Washington Generals.
Isabella
Exactly. They have. They play, I think, three. I think there's, like, three possible teams they play. So it's A little. Almost like a league, but barely. They're known mostly for just being fun. It's like a minor league baseball game, but turned up to a thousand.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
If the. If a fan catches a foul ball, it counts as an out. They have like fun little rules.
John Gabris
I love that kind of shit.
Isabella
To just basically like jazz up the game.
John Gabris
Minor league games is one of like, life's. Going to watch a minor league game live is one of life's like true beauties.
Isabella
Underrated.
John Gabris
And I'm bare. I barely like baseball. But the vibes at a minor league stadium are unheard of. Like, the person next to you has like a fudgeing chocolate lab with them.
Isabella
They're like, you're just like a well behaved.
John Gabris
Yeah, there's like. And it's like, yeah, my son is playing. You know, like you're sitting next to like the dad. There's always some reason to try to get you there. It's like, I remember I went to go see. I think it's. It was a Yankees farm team in Albany during a bachelor party. Of course. Great minor league sports weekend. We went to go see some Albany team and it was like, it's $3 barbecue sandwich night. I was like, get.
Isabella
Barbecue. What?
John Gabris
Yeah. I'm like, I'm blood tomorrow.
Isabella
Yeah. Savannah Bananas. Fun. They've started to receive backlash because people can't have anything fun. If there's something on the Internet that everybody likes, people are like, it actually sucks.
John Gabris
Yeah. Hold on. There's a reason why you shouldn't like this. It's like, of course there is.
Isabella
Sure there's a reason to not like anything.
John Gabris
Yeah. It's not. Tobacco companies in the 70s and 80s. We can like this kind of bananas.
Isabella
Okay. But this summer, this is where you.
John Gabris
Find out that they've raped 12 underage girls. And I'm like, I'm sitting here defending.
Isabella
Them before Savannah Bananas. Funded by Saudi money. Don't know if you know, but actually that's fine. We have a whole golf league that does that. No, the announcement with the Savannah bananas is that ESPN is going to air 10 games live on ESPN and Disney's linear TV and streaming platforms. Whatever that fucking sentence means at this point. Two will be on ESPN. Eight will they clarify. Eight will be on ESPN two and all 10 will stream on ESPN and Disney, the network announced on Monday.
John Gabris
Oh, sick.
Isabella
This made me curious if they ever broadcast Harlem Globetrotters games.
John Gabris
They definitely did.
Isabella
I looked it up and what I saw and this is not necessarily the truth, because that's how the Internet Works now you can look something up. It'll give you an answer and then you'll find out that was AI generated.
John Gabris
For hours and find out it's not true.
Isabella
But it was something from 2024 that said this is the first time they're broadcasting a Globetrotters game in something like 40 years.
John Gabris
I believe that. I remember it was in free. I remember seeing it on TV before I ever saw him live.
Isabella
Yeah, I feel like it was one of those morning when they would do the like, morning Saturday morning basketball cartoon.
John Gabris
I think I first saw them either on Gilligan's island or Scooby Doo or something like that. And I said, dad, what are the Harlem Globe Tribes?
Isabella
What is this?
John Gabris
Yeah. And he was like, oh, they're like a fun basketball team that, like does pranks and stuff. And I was like, what's that? And then he was like, hey, they're coming to msg. We should go see it. And we rode the train in and I was like, I thought it was like the coolest thing ever.
Isabella
It's like tricks.
John Gabris
It's tricks. There's like an element of bullying, like where they bully the Generals in like a fun way that you like. And then it's also like, holy, it's. He's not shooting the basketball.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And it just. To me as like a young kid, I was like, this rules. Rules. It's so much more entertaining, so much more entertaining than the Knicks.
Isabella
I know. I wonder if it'll be. If it's. If, if. I wonder if I would watch a Savannah Bananas game on tv.
John Gabris
I. I think I would because I feel like that crew is going to know to step it up because their games, they're going to. They're going to be bringing like a 10 episode storyline, I think, to their live games.
Isabella
Yeah, I could see that. They're. They are good with their, like, forward thinking about their. Their social videos are great.
John Gabris
It would be so funny, like, as a comedy person, to be hired as a writer for the Savannah Bananas.
Isabella
What they should do for the commentators is they should not use their baseball people. They should be using comedians.
John Gabris
I got two right here who are very. I can't speak to your availability, but I can tell you, I can tell.
Isabella
You that I'm incredibly free. And he's banking all of his podcast episodes, so he's gonna have plenty of time.
John Gabris
Let's head down to Savannah, Drive through daiquiris.
Isabella
I don't see why not. It does seem kind of like. And they're going to good parks. They're doing One at Fenway. They're doing one at Camden Yards.
John Gabris
Okay.
Isabella
Yeah. Shut up.
John Gabris
No, Fenway's a amazing park.
Isabella
Yeah. And Yankee Stadium sucks.
John Gabris
It does.
Isabella
It's a mausoleum.
John Gabris
I hate.
Isabella
It's a big memorial to old being good a while ago.
John Gabris
You want to talk. You want to talk about being an old. An old Yorker, if you will.
Isabella
Yes, please.
John Gabris
Me saying, yeah, the new Yankee Stadium sucks. They've been there for, like, 30 years.
Isabella
No, it's new to me.
John Gabris
Yeah, it's still new.
Isabella
It hasn't been 30 years. Don't do that to me.
John Gabris
No, it's got to 20.
Isabella
I just felt an ovary shrivel up when you said that. It's got. I would say 10. It's got to be more than. Than 10. 15. I'm comfortable with 15. Anything higher than that, I'm doing the.
John Gabris
This is a classic dead dad thing. I'm like, was my dad alive when it happened?
Isabella
Oh, man.
John Gabris
We got expert login confirmation.
Isabella
He knew. He knew your dad, Chris.
G
2009. So what's that, 16 years?
John Gabris
Okay. Yeah. My dad was alive because we did go together. That's what I remembered. Yeah. I think he killed himself right after he saw it.
Isabella
I don't know. So I don't know how to react to that.
John Gabris
I'm like, dad, are you still in the bathroom at the Yankee stadium? Also in 2009? I'm 27, so it is funny to be like, papa, Daddy, I'm worried.
Isabella
Daddy, are you going to the bathroom still?
John Gabris
Daddy, I need another barbecue sandwich.
Isabella
Next. Where do we go next? Let's do WNBA draft. That happened last night. Crazy. If you're not paying attention to the timeline for women, it is the NCAA tournament. And then a week later, the WNBA draft. And then I believe a month or so later, WNBA season starts. It's like, this is a whirlwind time.
John Gabris
It's March, right? It's women's month. We gotta get it all done.
Isabella
That's right. Before we stop caring.
John Gabris
Yeah. Before April Fools and we take away all the women's rights here.
Isabella
So, Paige Beckers, how much women's basketball are you paying attention to?
John Gabris
I'm. I'm familiar with the big names. You know, your Caitlin Clarks and Paige Beckers.
Isabella
You know Paige Becker.
John Gabris
I know Paige Becker.
Isabella
You do now? You can pretend now. Yeah, she went number one on overall. She was kind of the big name in this draft, in the tournament, but in this draft, because they are. Their CBA is up for renegotiation soon. So I think a lot of if you had an extra year of eligibility, you stayed in college for this year. And then they're going to probably get a big influx of talent in the next year.
John Gabris
Why would they stay another year?
Isabella
Because you can make NIL money. So the.
John Gabris
Oh, so it's like, rather than jump to be a rookie, let me do one year of dominating at. At Kansas.
Isabella
To me, the more interesting thing about nil and its effects on sports is that in the women's game, it's like you can make a lot more money before you get to the pros now.
John Gabris
Yeah. Where you also have to go vape in Russia to like keep your money alive.
Isabella
Well, so now and then the women invented. This year was the inaugural season of the off season league, the 3v3 league, called Unrivaled. It's run by the players and it has like a. I don't have the information in front of me. I don't want to get any of it wrong. But basically they're like radically rethinking the way the pay structure works to try to make sure that the women become like, they have like a stake in the ownership of the league and that way they won't have to go to Russia and get stuck with a vape pen and not able to come back.
John Gabris
Right. That's awesome.
Isabella
Which is going to have an effect on the wnba, you hope. You know.
John Gabris
Right. Keep your talent homegrown. Keep where? If you can make a living playing basketball in just America, you can only make your team better by in the off season being able to train and not have to like, fucking.
Isabella
And we don't have to worry. Yeah. That they might not come back.
John Gabris
Right. Yeah. Especially. Especially as immigration stuff is being rapidly sorted out here in America.
Isabella
Certainly not getting easier to go in and out of the country. So I think that, yes, it is probably best for us to come up with our own. Our take care of our gals, if you will.
John Gabris
3V3 league. I really like that.
Isabella
Yeah, yeah. And they did a 1v1 tournament within the 3v3 league. So they're like radically rethinking, you know, how to do the sport, which I find pretty interesting.
John Gabris
It's a fun way to be able to do the sport year round, keep some attention on it, make some extra money, sell some ads against it, get sponsorships. That's, that's. I like that. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of people doing it for themselves.
Isabella
You know, it like makes immediate, obvious sense. And I'm like, of course a men's league is so deep in it. And there's so much money.
John Gabris
Yeah. And they're in year 80 of existing.
Isabella
So they're like, what? We're not going to change this. But for a women's league to be like, you know what? What if we made it so that when you join the league, you get a stake in the.
John Gabris
Yeah. The rules haven't been written yet. Yeah. And you're like, you get 0.001% of your team and for every year you put.
Isabella
Whatever the numbers come up. My eyes glaze over. But someone else would figure it out.
John Gabris
As an actor, formerly of the world of residuals, I'm always curious about that stuff. But they don't exist anymore because we hollowed out TV and made non union TV here. And we call it podcasting. And I participated in it too. So I am totally.
Isabella
I never thought of it that way.
John Gabris
Yeah. We have a full on talk show here with zero paid camera people. Zero paid underpaid hosts.
Isabella
This is a. This audio. It's a audio podcast that has clips.
John Gabris
Oh, okay. Okay.
Isabella
Awesome.
John Gabris
Yeah. No, I'm doing it too. We record in this studio.
Isabella
Katie. Yeah. I've been meaning to talk to you about that.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Do you want these shelves around? You can have them. I can leave the bago tampons if you need it.
John Gabris
If you're going to leave anything I say tatas and bag of tampons is more our energy.
Isabella
I could. I could have. I knew that. I knew that's what you would have requested. J.D. vance.
John Gabris
Love him.
Isabella
I know, I know you're a big fan.
John Gabris
Big fan.
Isabella
Big fan of the way he cosplays where he's from.
John Gabris
Yeah. You know, I just love. I think it's very interesting when a 40 year old man becomes a Catholic because anyone who was raised Catholic is as far away from Catholicism as possible in there. Once they hit 18 or whatever. And then someone to go back into it. Bad sign.
Isabella
Bad sign. And also to have invented so many things about your personality that are brand new to you. To you right before you're vice president to me is like, well, that's not.
John Gabris
I'm a Catholic right wing.
Isabella
Years ago.
John Gabris
Where's this hillbilly elegy I heard so much about?
Isabella
A lot of written down proof you didn't feel this way recently.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
You need to walk me there. But we're sticking to sports. He broke the national championship trophy. Did you see this?
John Gabris
Yes.
Isabella
It's. I would love us to watch it if we can, just because of how much joy it brings me. This trophy in general, I already. When they debuted a few years ago, I was like, what a. A weird looking trophy.
John Gabris
Yeah, no, it feels like it would be in, like, the waiting room at, like, CAA or some shit.
Isabella
Yeah, it's very much giving a birth canal that's giving birth to a trophy. But the trophy's not out yet. It's only crowning. That's what it looks like to me. And to see JD Vance pick it up already in two pieces.
John Gabris
Oh, yes. You love to see that piece of shit.
Isabella
Just two pieces. The base has fallen off. And, you know, he's blaming the guy. Guy who was in the tan suit to his left. You know, he's.
John Gabris
What you do. You.
Isabella
You moved it. You moved it. Yeah. So that was break one. I believe there was a second break, but you should everybody go check that tape out for yourself.
John Gabris
Oh, man.
Isabella
Big Ohio State fan. J.D.
John Gabris
Vance, of course.
Isabella
And that was him giving them their trophy to celebrate their national championship. They. They.
John Gabris
He.
Isabella
Yeah. So it's broken. Not the worst thing. I think he's broken in the year.
John Gabris
No, I think the concept of democracy is a little higher up than that trophy. I think blowing the back out of his couch was probably another. Right? That's him.
Isabella
It's one of those bits of misinformation that's like, can't we have this one? All the other ones. Okay. Misinformation is back bad.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
But this one was tasty.
John Gabris
For the record, I didn't. My couch. I. A Ziploc bag full of mayonnaise that I put in between two couch cushions.
Isabella
After microwaving it for 35 seconds.
John Gabris
Oh, Katie is familiar with the prison recipe.
Isabella
I just feel like you wouldn't want to do it with the cold mayo. No, but 35 might be too much. You don't want to be hot mayo.
John Gabris
Oh, I'll tell you something. As real sex and Dr. Drew up a whole generation of. Of millennials, I definitely tried to masturbate with a microwave tomato because I had heard and like a.
Isabella
Like a. Like a beef steak tomato.
John Gabris
I sliced it and it was so hot inside, I heard my burn my dick.
Isabella
How long did you microwave it for?
John Gabris
I don't remember. But whatever it was was too long. I should have let it cool. I was like, oh, it's more like room temp that you want than, like, true.
Isabella
You want 98.6 supposed. I think you're supposed to leave your tomatoes on the counter. I don't think they go in the fridge.
John Gabris
Yeah, well, this one, I was too hot. To handle.
Isabella
Oh, my God. That's crazy.
John Gabris
I give it a 4% on the rotten Tomatoes score.
Isabella
That's very upsetting.
John Gabris
Yeah. No, it was. And it's not something you could like tell your parents about. You just suffer with like a little burnt pecker. I mean, average size burnt.
Isabella
The NFL draft is a week away. Are you a draft guy? I just, I. The drafts bore me in general.
John Gabris
I can't do it. I'm three days. I love watching highlights of big mouth breathing linemen getting drafted. And then you like, they cut to their family and it's like heart disease on a couch. It's just like 12 thick necked, like Iowans. Like, I'm so excited to be playing ball. That's my favorite. And I love seeing outfits on rich, young, hip, cool, athletic people and their.
Isabella
Cell phones coming out of their pockets because that's what every year they've got these T pants on and you're like, cool. I can see the three cell phones in your car keys in your front pockets. Give them.
John Gabris
I can see your vas deference. The I, I. But I really love to just like look at the draft after the fact.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And. And know what happened. I'm also a huge fan of physical feats of fitness and strength. So like the combine and like hearing like, I'm obsessed and I'm gonna not know the guy's name, but I'm obsessed with that D tackle who is at the combine who weighs 460 pounds.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And he like ran a 5, 6, 40, which is like insane. Like that's like a car speeding at you. And it's like I'm obsessed with like physical freaks like that. So I'm always excited to be like, the Giants got that guy, that big lineman that could do a front flip. You know, I like saying shit like that all the time.
Isabella
But not watching it live, I cannot.
John Gabris
I can. No.
Isabella
An amazing production. I am amazed from like a sports television production standpoint the way they have to have a highlights package for of.
John Gabris
These people and maybe cameras in their family's houses frequently ready to cue those.
Isabella
Up when they, when the little do do do do do do. I get it. I think it's beautifully run. I just, there's too many other things I could be doing with my hand. I just am like, I can't sit here and watch the, the draft.
John Gabris
There's too many episodes of the Pit to watch.
Isabella
Yes. I have to get. That's my next one.
John Gabris
I just watched it all this weekend with my mom, who's a Nurse. So she. It hit extra hard for her.
Isabella
And this is. Yeah, this is. They're saying it's like the best. The best one since er because it was ER adjacent.
John Gabris
I flew through it. It's.
Isabella
It's real good.
John Gabris
It's throwback tv. It's melodramatic. I cried a bunch. It's sappy. It's over the top. It's intense.
Isabella
It's like old school tv.
John Gabris
Yeah. And it. It powered like you power through. It's one day at a hospital.
Isabella
I was gonna say it's like 24 meets er, right, exactly.
John Gabris
It's cool.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And all the characters are. I'm like, protect Mel at all costs. I'm like, in love with like eight characters now. It's awesome.
Isabella
Dan and I are watching what is the Temptation Island.
John Gabris
Okay. Yeah.
Isabella
New season of Temptation island. And I'm gonna make the same pitch to you. Brilliant television.
John Gabris
Okay.
Isabella
It is our best reality show. I am not a reality TV person. It takes couples, dumb couples. Couples that you're like, these two aren't gonna make it. And then they split them up. They split them up and put them in a house full of hotties. Hotties that want to. To hotties that want to and want to be famous. And on tv.
John Gabris
I want to ruin marriages.
Isabella
And they all go into it by making their little pacts of like, we're going to get through this. No kissing. Okay? Our line is kissing, don't kiss anybody. And he's like, baby, you don't kiss anybody. We're going to get through this. Day one, you see, the guys just start kissing everybody. And the girls are like, oh, what's he doing? I hope he's not doing anything. Then they make them. They show them videos of what the other ones are doing.
John Gabris
Okay.
Isabella
And then.
John Gabris
This is a very specific fetish. Yeah.
Isabella
Crazy, because you get to watch them psychologically torture each other. And then the host is. Mark Wahlberg is his name, but it's not the guy you're thinking, of course, different. Mark Wahlberg.
John Gabris
Hey, we're back here on Temptation Island. All right. Tell you.
Isabella
Tell your side girlfriend I said hi.
John Gabris
Okay. Well, here we are. We're doing some Temptations. Municipal hat. Municipal shoes. Looking good. Pray up. Stay prayed. Hello, Happy.
Isabella
Oh, my God. Stay prayed up.
John Gabris
Happy Palm Sunday. It's 3:05am we're lifting weights before I go to Temptation Plantation Island. Stay prayed up. Let's go.
Isabella
Then at one point, they introduced the wrinkle. There's a tent that you can in where there's no Cameras. But if you in that tent, an alarm is gonna go off in the other house and it's like the whole house is like. It flashes. They know someone's wakes them up in the middle of the night. They don't know who's and they know they're not gonna be able to see video of it, but somebody's. Someone in the tent alone. This show, I swear, not enough people are talking about it. It is. They take a dumb couple and by the end they've gone through something and they like grow. You watch them grow as people.
John Gabris
That's crazy.
Isabella
Incredible.
John Gabris
Oh, man. The type of person who would choose. The type of couple that would choose to go on that show is something special.
Isabella
It's so special because they. They're doing us a service.
John Gabris
Well, there's this power of like this, this. Even the self selection of these reality shows is like the type of people who would choose to do this. This are the type of people who you want to watch fall apart.
Isabella
Yes. This guy, one of the guys is in a relationship. She's in another house. They just got split. We just watched them be dating. And he won't stop talking about a threesome. He's immediately trying to recruit girls to have a threesome with him. And then after he gets the threesome, spoiler alert. He says that he still thinks he's being a good boyfriend to his girl because he's being honest. And he thinks that a lot. Lot of women feel that's respectful if he's just honest.
John Gabris
Yeah. I didn't cheat on you with one girl. No, it was two girls.
Isabella
Two girls didn't even go to the tent. I did it in the room with a camera. The end of the scene where he has the threesome, he opens the door to the bathroom and goes, oh, shit, it's light out, guys. The sun's out. They fucked all night in the shower. And he thinks he's being respectful of his girlfriend.
John Gabris
That's fucking. What do you. Sorry to harp on temptation. No, but what do the. The like interlopers get out of it? Like, what are the guys who want to.
Isabella
They can leave with the. I don't know. I've alleged that they should be getting paid. Yeah, they must be. The way some of them are acting and angling to like, get the guy. I'm like, well, these guys aren't really prizes and they all have girlfriends. So what's in it for you?
John Gabris
Does anyone leave for a reason?
Isabella
They. They get rid of some of the. They do an early culling of the herd.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Where the girls and guys, the singles that aren't getting a lot of attention, get kicked out. Then they do another diabolical thing where they introduce two new people. But it's like the girls and the guys that are in couples go out on, like, a guys night. And the waitresses, the two hot waitresses that they're hitting on, surprise, they're coming back to the house. They're cast members now. So then now there's infighting between the new girls and the old girls.
John Gabris
The show is perfect, okay? So I think with my limited knowledge of unscripted television, my bet is those people get paid for however many days they stay. There's probably a day.
Isabella
A day, Right.
John Gabris
So it behooves them to get.
Isabella
Stick around.
John Gabris
Yeah. And if you're getting yourself on, if you're threesome in the shower on camera, you're gonna get invited back the next day.
Isabella
And then you get to watch the dynamics of those girls. When he takes a girl, because right after he has the threesome, he takes another girl out on a date.
John Gabris
You have to.
Isabella
And you watch those two girls go like, oh, he's gonna go out on that date and not have any fun with her. And realize that parties back at home. And you're like, the party is, he.
John Gabris
Has another girl in the other house is his girlfriend. Yeah. He's met her mom. Yeah.
Isabella
Oh, my God. It's fascinating. It's so many layers of disrespectful. And then they confront them with it. They, like, show them video of the they've done, and then they have to, like, reckon with it, which society is lacking any sort of accountability. You watch these men reckon, rack up receipts. I mean, the women could be doing it too, but theoretically, it's usually the men that are just, like, racking up a bill, thinking they're never gonna have to pay it.
John Gabris
Right.
Isabella
And then it comes to the scene.
John Gabris
Where they go, everything.
Isabella
This is a television show, you idiot. This is on tv.
John Gabris
You spoke to it briefly there, but that was going to be my last question is, are. Do the women be like.
Isabella
So once they see. Sometimes the best is when they'll watch. They go to the bonfire. That's where Mark Wahlberg presents them with the footage of what has happened. And then they.
John Gabris
It's a burning bush.
Isabella
The best. They leave that after watching their, you know, boyfriend, somebody. They leave that. And then they're like, men line up. Sometimes you'll just see the girls come back and they're like, oh, they're gonna.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
And you're happy for them, cuz you're like, good girl. Go get yours.
John Gabris
He's getting it.
Isabella
Go get yours. Yeah.
John Gabris
I mean, imagine if you're like a poly or ethically non monogamous couple. You're like, want to go on Temptation Island? Like crazy.
Isabella
Get famous. And just everybody. So that was our talk about the draft, I think.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
That was the segment.
John Gabris
There was the Temptation island casting process.
Isabella
This. The reason I left this in is because it's Giants related, but I guess Shador Sanders draft stock seems to be tumbling. The Giants have the third pick. They have. They're holding one final private workout with Sanders this week to.
John Gabris
To potentially be like their fifth quarterback.
Isabella
Yeah, they got a lot going on.
John Gabris
Yeah. They went from almost having none with Danny Dimes and Tommy Cutlets. Now they got rid of Danny Dimes. Tommy Cutlets still there, but they just keep bringing.
Isabella
And Russell Wilson, right, is a Giant.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
And James Jameis Winston, who has been. Has had his image completely rehabbed.
John Gabris
I guess I'm no fan, but what's his backstory?
Isabella
We can talk about it later. It's not good. Oh, no, it's not good.
John Gabris
Of course he.
Isabella
But he. But he's. Why, he's your favorite. You just said he's your favorite.
John Gabris
No, I said, of course he ends up being a Giant.
Isabella
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, everyone's forgotten about it, so it's not the Giants fault, I guess.
John Gabris
Giants are starting Aaron Hernandez, brought him back from the dead, reanimated Bill Cosby as linebacker coach.
Isabella
People forget he had skills. He was really good. He was a good tight end. On Monday, Colorado announced they're going to retire the jersey numbers of both Sanders and Travis Hunter. Now, Travis Hunter won the Heisman, but I still feel you played two seasons there.
John Gabris
You don't get to retire.
Isabella
Retire the number.
John Gabris
No.
Isabella
I don't know.
John Gabris
It must. I mean, obviously, it's like a recruiting ploy and.
Isabella
Yeah. Because, you know.
John Gabris
Yeah. And it's. It's blatant nepotism.
Isabella
In two seasons, Colorado went 13 and 12 and didn't win a bowl game. So I don't know why we're retiring.
John Gabris
Well, he should just be retired in general. No, that's crazy. I hope the Giants don't sign him because I feel like we're a little thick in the quarterback department.
Isabella
You do have your top heavy. You're a little top heavy.
John Gabris
But it is. It is a little crazy. Like, for the longest time, Giants have never had a black quarterback. And now we have like, two, maybe.
Isabella
Three oh yeah, I didn't even think about that. I don't see color personally.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah. I'll tell you who does. Old New Yorkers. You know who's a hell of a ballplayer? That Ed McCaffrey. Oh, the one white wide receiver on the 91 team. Okay.
Isabella
Yeah, I do feel like they would like. He would love to be in New York though, like that. Oh yeah, Would be.
John Gabris
I remember a long time ago watching some hard knocks where a guy got traded to like Buffalo and he's like a millionaire who went to like the University of Miami and he's like, I'm just at Applebee's every weekend. I'm like, yeah, that must kind of suck if you're in like, yeah, you got to go party at the Buffalo Applebee's. Whereas people who live in New York, Miami, in Los Angeles and like that. So much access to so much.
Isabella
It's funny. Like we, we. You think about it, it comes up every now and then, but it's like that is such a huge part of where you get drafted that we all just go like, ah, deal with it. You're in the league, but it's like.
John Gabris
Well, you should be happy to be part of the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Isabella
Really different place.
John Gabris
You are a 20 year old millionaire and you get to move to Oklahoma City.
Isabella
Well, they've got an up and coming culture.
John Gabris
Yeah. Well, you create it, right? You like build your fucking.
Isabella
Yeah, you're like full center of attention. Attention.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
You're not blending in at all.
John Gabris
You're just Luca Lucas hookahs. You build your own hookah bar and go. That's why I love like LA is so fun like that. It's like he's. Dallas is mad because he's smoking hookah and drinking beers. And LA is like, you like hookah? We're the capital of that.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
There's an Armenian hookah plays every eight feet. A Persian hookah plays every 10ft. You're gonna go apesh.
Isabella
I think you're gonna like it.
John Gabris
I think we're gonna like Los Angeles.
Isabella
You're gonna want to come over. And then, because it is sports, I think we should round out this podcast by discussing how those girls went to space yesterday. How we had lady space.
John Gabris
Yes, lady space.
Isabella
We made lady space.
John Gabris
We make space for women.
Isabella
Blue Origin's all female crew. It's an interesting use of the word crew, as I believe they were passengers. They took a very brief trip to space yesterday. The entire trip lasted 10 minutes and 21 seconds. Four minutes in microgravity just above the Carmen line, which I'm sure Katy Perry knows. What's that is in that? She. She took a. A picture with a daisy. She kept having this little daisy she was holding. I don't know what.
John Gabris
We'll find out what that means shortly after. It's like some marketing ploy. Of course.
Isabella
She promoted the set list for her upcoming tour that we won't be attending.
John Gabris
With my girl Rebecca Black. Right? She's touring with Rebecca Black of Friday fame? Yeah.
Isabella
Oh, I like. Doesn't she.
John Gabris
She's great.
Isabella
She like had a renaissance.
John Gabris
Yeah. We were on an episode of Is it Cake together and she's a little.
Isabella
Was it cake? It.
John Gabris
At times it was and at times it wasn't. Wow. But she's. She's a little grown up now. She's not a little grown up. She's a. Hell yes.
Isabella
That was. Is she from Long Island?
John Gabris
Oh, maybe. I don't know.
Isabella
Because that feels like one of those Long island esque businesses where you can. If you want to film a music.
John Gabris
Video famous for her bar mitzvah, they.
Isabella
Like put together the video for you.
John Gabris
From your sweet 16. We can make a music video.
Isabella
It just happened to get out online and we didn't go easy on her.
John Gabris
No. And it's funny cuz it's like it wasn't like it was a catchy song. It was bad.
Isabella
But I still sing it when it's Friday. It just is.
John Gabris
You said Katy Perry's promoting a new tour. I went in my head. I went with Rebecca Black, I think. And then my head went Friday.
Isabella
Down on Friday.
John Gabris
Look, I'm a heterosexual man. Katy Perry's got some bops. She came onto the scene. She's hot. Like she was very hot. But her vibes have been off for like eight to 10 years. And this is like peak bad vibes. It just seems so out of touch with reality.
Isabella
And it seems so out of touch.
John Gabris
Such poor timing. And then also she wasn't she quoted as saying something. Something of like, we have to protect our mother, like in reference to Earth. But it's like you just burned like 6, 000 gallons of fossil fuel.
Isabella
And like to edge space.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
To look at the moon at one point they, they turn their like mics on or something. And listen, I. We all talk this way. I'm not trying to be. But the only reaction, they all went, oh my God, oh my God, the moon. Oh my God. Which is like, all right.
John Gabris
Yeah. I'd like to have one scientist or one astrophysicist or astronomer to go like, look at the moon is in this phase. Instead of just like Katy Perry going.
Isabella
Like cupcakes to take a moment and go like, this really has made me feel insignificant. I just would love one of those moments of like, oh, she's really.
John Gabris
I'd love her to come down and be like saving the redwood.
Isabella
This is. I am a strong woman. She said she feels so in touch with love. And I just. That's got to be the only thing you're in touch with. Because the amount of money they had to spend on this little vanity project.
John Gabris
Jesus.
Isabella
So that Jeff Bezos's fiance. Which I will say shout out to fiance visibility. Those two clearly have the money to have gotten the wedding over with by now. And as somebody, we're just. We're not in a rush. We go nice and slow. So I like that. And that's about it. Also, you might not know this because I just learned this. Lauren Sanchez, Jeff Bezos, fiance, formerly was with Tony Gonzalez.
John Gabris
Tight end, vegan tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah. NCAA basketball player turned professional football player. Love those vibes.
Isabella
Love that. Love a two sport athlete.
John Gabris
Yeah. Just. Oh, yeah, I'll go pro as this, like, you know, growing up, being a Dave Winfield, Deion Sanders fan. You know, you like, love all that.
Isabella
Yeah. Katy Perry. Lauren Sanchez said she was visibly emotional after exiting the capsule, saying she didn't have the words to describe her experience, which. So little is expected of you. I do feel like you could have prepped some words to say.
John Gabris
I don't have any words, but I kissed the girl and I like.
Isabella
And yes. And Lauren Sanchez also said she. It made how quiet and really alive the earth looked. Made her think about how we're all in this together. And if by this you mean Jeff Bezos's super yacht, I'm happy to have accepted the invitation.
John Gabris
Katy Perry's like, we're all in this together. Except, of course, those nuns who live in the convent that I'm converting into a real estate project.
Isabella
Wendy's got a little spicy pop. Crave tweeted. Katy Perry has returned from space. And Wendy's official account replied, can we send her back?
John Gabris
Wow. Well, I love the Sassy brands show. I'm a fan here.
Isabella
I love a redheaded fast food wench just being like, get out of here.
John Gabris
Get bent.
Isabella
We liked you gone firework.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Isabella
Shoot you off into the sky and then shout out, out, Kesha. Then later that night posted a selfie of herself, like, drinking a frosty because Kesha has reason to strongly dislike Katy Perry. Are you aware of this drama?
John Gabris
No. Please.
Isabella
Katy Perry worked with Dr. Luke, the disgraced producer.
John Gabris
Yes. Who we all.
Isabella
Who we all hate for good reason. And Katy Perry made a what she wanted to see as a feminist anthem produced by Dr. Luke and didn't see her herself.
John Gabris
Oh.
Isabella
Didn't anticipate that criticism would be coming. And when it did, she was like, well, that's not fair. I'm a woman and I'm supposed to be supported by you.
John Gabris
Yeah. It's a lot of pretty egregious on self awareness coming from the Katy Perry camp these days.
Isabella
And I just, you know what? If I'm trying to give it a generous read, I'm jealous. I would love to be so out of touch that I could just go pay money to go to space for two seconds and think that it being covered on the BBC and CNN and having a sideline reporter there to hype it all up was worth it and cool and good.
John Gabris
This is not even just to gas you up, but I care so much more what you think of outer space than what Katy Perry thinks. You know what I mean? Like, I'd much rather hear from a realistic Almost anybody.
Isabella
Almost anyone.
John Gabris
Yeah. There are like 12 pop stars that I would rather have go up. Katie. Yeah.
Isabella
And it just feels so corporate. Jeff Bezos looked like a baseball manager walking them to the rocket. He had the full outfit on to the point where the lower third said all female crew. And I was like, I'm already taking issue with the word crew. Bezos. Don't make me take issue with all female. You're not getting on that.
John Gabris
You're not bringing your little trt, bald little Lex Luther ass on this. When you stay home and do crunches, you old rich with terrible taste.
Isabella
It's like, where's our rich guy with good taste?
John Gabris
The Sacklers bought museum wings. Those garbage people. Like we. These guys are shooting celebrities into space. Now. I say this a lot and so I just want to keep it up. If I had like $180,000, no one would hear from me. And no less, if I had hundred million dollars, you would never see me on camera.
Isabella
I'm telling. I took some years off the last few years because I was like, I've got. We're okay. I don't have to do anything. Maybe I should just go away for a little. And I just. Why is that not in a lot of people when you have that much money that you could just go away with it forever? Why are you out here if I.
John Gabris
Was if I was 1/100 as rich as these guys, the only time you would ever see me is if paparazzi snapped a shirtless sandwich boat a la Nicholson. Like, that's all. I would just be eating cured meat.
Isabella
You wouldn't need the three dollar barbecue sandwiches anymore. You could get these.
John Gabris
I'd be at the top shelf. Give me the gabagool, the super sat. Give me the full whammy. I'll sit on a boat, tits out, eating that thing, smoking a fat. You would literally like, I dream of the day. Of having enough money to disappear.
Isabella
Yeah.
John Gabris
And all. And.
Isabella
Or send your fiance into space, I guess. Oh, yeah.
John Gabris
To make her disappear.
Isabella
Just a strange. An all around strange.
John Gabris
And did Gayle King go too?
Isabella
She did. And I will say to her credit, question mark. She looked very uncomfortable. She looked very scared. This looked like a personal overcoming of a fear. And Oprah was there on the ground, along with Kris Jenner and Khloe, which Dan, my fiance, pointed out. He's like, oh, that I got Ringo. I couldn't even get one of the Beatles. They were all there on the ground. And I think Oprah. Oprah said, this is the most proud she's ever been of Gayle.
John Gabris
Which, oh, my God, that's cute.
Isabella
Is crazy. She's an accomplished journalist.
John Gabris
Yeah. I think she'd be more proud of Gayle if she opened up the airlock and sucked KP out of her.
Isabella
That's what I was kind of hoping Gayle would get up there and go, now that you can't back out of it, I'm gonna ask you the tough questions. What's up with Dr. Luke? Why? But no, instead they all said, oh, my God. And then they put their hands in for, you know, one of those, like, Disney Channel movies. And what they said was, take up space.
John Gabris
Oh, my God, I'm upset. I'm so. I feel like I'm not allowed to be upset about that as a giant straight white male. But space. Get the.
Isabella
The news of whatever's going on with our economy and whatever's going on in the Middle east was reduced to a lower scroll while these women, women took up space in the news broadcast.
John Gabris
Just on the bottom is just the Dow Jones red lines plummeting.
Isabella
No more. You're like, okay, Katy Perry. Not now War. Katy Perry.
John Gabris
I'm sorry. They said take up space. Get. Get lost. Oh, God, that's so a nightmare. I think I almost. I think I've said get bent maybe for the first time today. Now I've said it like, 12 times, three times.
Isabella
I think it's your new thing.
John Gabris
Yeah, it's getting, like, in my. It's in my head. It's becoming a bit of a worm.
Isabella
I don't dislike it.
John Gabris
I don't hate it either. And I'm trying to less.
Isabella
Where'd it come from?
John Gabris
Because I was gonna say get and switch it to get bent. And then I've now been saying it's. It's gonna be one of those things where it's like, for three weeks I say it. And all the podcasts I. That week are like, this guy says.
Isabella
Get bent, and then someone's gonna bring it up to you and you're gonna go, what? I don't say that. It's gonna be. Yeah.
John Gabris
Or like when you batch record podcasts. And then everyone's like, wow, you really obsessed with the word proprioception? And it's like, I know, I'm sorry.
Isabella
Over the course of one day. Because we're all back to back. How do you not? The hardest thing about batch recording is callbacks is you can't make a callback. Cause you go, that might be a callback to an episode that's gonna air in three weeks.
John Gabris
It's so complicated.
Isabella
It's so hard to keep track.
John Gabris
And, I mean, we're luckily not a topical podcast where Evergreen Health, you know, so, like, it's a little easier. But, like, especially with, like, sports, you're like, oh, and tune in next week to talk about the thing we just talked about. It's too confused, too much.
Isabella
And the podcast is called let's Get Physical. It's not.
John Gabris
It's not another song title.
Isabella
Stay Alive.
John Gabris
Yes.
Isabella
That's what it is. My brain's trying to find the song. Staying Alive, the podcast is. And you can get it what? Wherever you get your podcast.
John Gabris
Wherever you get podcast, wherever you're listening to this, you could just pop it open and hit subscribe. And we're. We're serious, fam.
Isabella
Yeah, you can get it in the SiriusXM app. They like it when you say that.
John Gabris
Yeah. I think if you. If you do SiriusXM plus, you can get it, like, a couple of days early or something with no ads. I don't know what that is either is. But I'll tell you what, it's just another cash grab. And I'm so thankful Uncle Serious for you hiding.
Isabella
Thank you so much, Daddy Serious.
John Gabris
Yes, we're here. See you at the meeting, Howard.
Isabella
Yeah. So that you can get it wherever. What days of the week is it.
John Gabris
Going to be coming out Thursdays. We premiere April 24th, couple eps then and then every week.
Isabella
April 24th.
John Gabris
When is this episode?
Isabella
What day is it today?
John Gabris
April 15th. Tax day.
Isabella
April's going slow.
John Gabris
Slow month.
Isabella
Slow month.
John Gabris
Well, cuz March was so heavy with women stuff, you know, we had so.
Isabella
Much to get to, so much motorboating to do.
John Gabris
That's how I celebrate. Women's History month is motor.
Isabella
This is breast cancer awareness.
John Gabris
Well, I wear a pink do rag while I do it. You're welcome. Susan G. Komen.
Isabella
John Gabris, thank you for being here. This was very, very fun and you are officially a casual and we will, we're happy to have you and we'll take you whenever you want to discuss sports.
John Gabris
Katie, I'm so happy to be here. I'm so glad we got to chop it up in person. Thank you so much. The best.
Isabella
The best. All right. That was fun. God, I love him. But because it is Tuesday, we have to let you know, thanks to our producer Chris, what you can watch this week if you wanted to catch a little bit of sports. Chris, what do we got?
G
First thing, the Kansas City Royals are in New York this week. They got a series against the Yankees. They play tonight at 7:05pm Eastern on FuboTV MLB TV or SiriusXM channel 180. You can listen to the game there. We've spoken about the Royals before. They're a very fun young team. Vinnie Pasquintino is one of our favorites. So you know what, you should probably just do a little bit of research for no specific reason about Vinnie Pasquintino and see what type of player he is. Just so you, you have an understanding as to. As to who the Pasquatch is.
Isabella
Yeah, just get to know the Pasquatch for no reason other than he's our guest on Thursday. So he's you. You should know him so you can watch him in this series. Hopefully they take down the big bad, evil Yankees. I believe they lost last night, but that's okay. They're not going to lose tonight. What else, Chris?
G
NBA postseason all day Saturday beginning at 1:00pm this is sort of cheating because it's four games in one. But this is another one of my favorite days of the year because you get four games back to back to back to back. You got bucks at paces at 1:00pm on ESPN, Clippers at Nuggets, 3:30pm Eastern on ESPN, Pistons at Knicks, 6:00pm Eastern on ESPN and Tim Wolves at Lakers at 8:30pm eastern on ABC. So if you're a basketball Fan, you can legit, legitimately just sit on the couch all day and watch high quality basketball.
Isabella
And that's what sports are all about, isn't it? Finding an excuse to sit on the couch all day and watch something. So thank you for giving us that, Chris. What else?
G
The women's elite rugby, the new semi professional women's rugby league that has started this season is on this weekend. It's the Boston Banshees versus the New York Exiles. So we've got a Boston versus New York matchup. That game is going to be on Saturday, April 19th at 2pm Eastern. You can watch that on Dazn and Boston. You'll be happy to know, Katie, they are undefeated on the season so far. They are on top of the table. Let's hope that streak continues against the New York Exiles. And, and yeah, let's hope that they. That we can go into next Tuesday's show with them still being undefeated.
Isabella
The names are scary in that league. Exiles and Banshees. That is like real danger. Yeah.
G
Yeah. That's what we like from the rugby.
Isabella
Yeah. I do love always feeling as though I'm on the brink of peril. And then, as I always do at the last minute, I'm going to toss in something here because last week I mentioned that we were rooting for the Columbus Blue Jackets to make it into the NHL postseason because they lost Johnny Hockey at the beginning of the season. And this felt like a story we could all root for. And I told you it was a, a a needed to be threaded in order to get this team into the postseason. But I'm here to say, and I'm not going to say too much because I don't want to jinx it, their chances are still alive. They need a number of things to happen, but one of those things I believe is that they need to win out. They have a game tonight at 7pm against the Flyers that you can watch on ESPN Plus. So if you're on the Johnny Hockey support train, I think we all just need to look, I said it on the podcast. If we all just send our positive thoughts and keep them in our hearts, maybe this will work. And so far it kind of has been. So let's all just keep thinking those positive thoughts and keep them in our hearts because that would be a very cool story and it would give me somebody to root for in the postseason because I've stopped watching hockey. Bruins suck so bad. Um, that's it for your podcast though, guys. That's a Tuesday pod in the books. A good one. If I do say so myself. Um, I'll say it again if you want to reach us Casuals with katienolanmail.com our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok. We are at CasualsThePodcast. Thank you so much for listening. We're having so much fun making this little podcast. I hope it's getting you guys fired up about sports, even just in a little bit, in a little way. We're just stoking a little fire in you, and that fire is called sports. We love you. We mean it. We'll see you on Thursday at the Home Depot.
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Isabella
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Katie Nolan
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Casuals with Katie Nolan: Golf, Space, The NFL Draft, and Sexy Microwaved Tomatoes | with Jon Gabrus Release Date: April 15, 2025
Introduction
In this lively episode of Casuals with Katie Nolan, host Katie Nolan welcomes comedian and podcaster Jon Gabrus as her guest. The duo dives into a variety of topics ranging from recent space ventures to the intricacies of the NFL Draft, all while infusing their characteristic humor and candid banter.
Blue Origin's All-Female Spaceflight
The conversation kicks off with excitement over Blue Origin's recent space mission, which included high-profile women like Katy Perry, Gail King, and Lauren Sanchez. Katie shares her disappointment in having her friend Carissa Thompson serve as the sideline reporter for the launch, feeling it was a sidelining role contrary to Carissa's preferences.
Isaabella: "I have a really short memory... trying to picture you at a high school football game." [03:03]
Katie Nolan: "Katy Perry's like, we're all in this together." [72:35]
Katie criticizes the mission as a publicity stunt rather than a genuine scientific endeavor, highlighting the superficial aspects of the participants' experiences.
Isabella: "It deserved to be on the news? Did Oprah need to be there? Did we have to drag out Kris Jenner?" [07:54]
Jon echoes these sentiments, expressing skepticism about the authenticity and necessity of celebrity involvement in such missions.
Jon Gabrus: "It felt so strange. I just care more about what you think of outer space than what Katy Perry thinks." [76:45]
Golf: A Love-Hate Relationship
The duo transitions to discussing golf, with Jon admitting his complicated feelings towards the sport. While he appreciates its peaceful viewing experience, he can't help but critique the overall premise and cultural aspects surrounding it.
Jon Gabrus: "I have big golf energy... I actually kind of hate the entire premise of it." [22:00]
Katie shares her own attempts to get into football through video games like Madden, contrasting her casual gaming habits with Jon's obsession with rugby.
Katie Nolan: "Madden, I'm like, maybe I could get into the game." [03:15]
Rugby and the Appeal of Less Mainstream Sports
Jon delves into his passion for rugby, particularly the sevens format featured in the Olympics. He appreciates the sport's cultural diversity and the unchanged rules between men's and women's games, praising its inclusivity.
Jon Gabrus: "The only sport that changes zero rules for the women... Everything is exactly the same." [19:22]
He also touches upon emerging leagues like Unrivaled, a 3v3 semi-professional women's rugby league, lauding its innovative approach to pay structures and ownership stakes.
Jon Gabrus: "They're radically rethinking the pay structure to ensure women have ownership stakes." [52:27]
The Intricacies of the NFL Draft and Play-In Tournaments
Katie and Jon explore the complexities of the NFL Draft and the NBA's play-in tournaments. Jon humorously admits his limited interest in drafts but appreciates the spectacle of physical performances during combines.
Jon Gabrus: "I'm obsessed with that D tackle who is at the combine who weighs 460 pounds." [59:19]
They discuss the challenges of keeping up with multiple sports seasons, highlighting the overwhelming number of games and the strategic nature of player selection.
Katie Nolan: "This is where the WNBA draft and NCAA tournament create a whirlwind time." [50:30]
Temptation Island: A Dive into Reality TV
Shifting gears, the hosts critique the reality show Temptation Island, dissecting its format of testing relationships by introducing attractive singles. They comment on the psychological dynamics and the lack of accountability portrayed on the show.
Isabella: "It's a service they're doing by watching these men rack up receipts." [66:56]
Jon emphasizes the performative aspect of reality TV, suggesting that participants are incentivized to create drama for the cameras.
Jon Gabrus: "It's the type of people who would choose to watch their marriages fall apart." [63:07]
Katy Perry's Space Adventure and Public Backlash
Returning to the space discussion, the hosts critique Katy Perry's brief 10-minute flight orchestrated by Blue Origin. They express frustration over the commercialization and lack of genuine accomplishment in such ventures.
Isabella: "She feels closer to love than ever before... but it's a ridiculous vanity project." [73:29]
Jon mocks the marketing tactics and the superficial messages conveyed by the celebrities involved.
Jon Gabrus: "Katy Perry's promoting a new tour while blasting off to space? It just seems so out of touch with reality." [76:10]
Conclusion and Upcoming Events
Wrapping up the episode, Katie and Jon highlight upcoming sports events, including a series between the Kansas City Royals and the New York Yankees, the NBA postseason schedule, and women's elite rugby matches. They encourage listeners to engage with various sports, emphasizing the diverse and entertaining aspects of each.
Jon Gabrus: "If you're a basketball fan, you can sit on the couch all day and watch high-quality basketball." [84:28]
Katie closes with a heartfelt message, expressing gratitude to their audience and promoting their next episode's availability.
Katie Nolan: "We hope it's getting you guys fired up about sports, even just in a little way." [82:38]
Notable Quotes
Isabella: "You can't be mad. It was a death." [09:14]
Jon Gabrus: "I'm obsessed with physical freaks like that." [59:19]
Katie Nolan: "It felt like this was getting me into video games." [03:42]
Isabella: "She feels closer to love than ever before." [73:29]
Key Takeaways
Celebrity Involvement in Space: The episode critiques the superficiality of celebrity-led space missions, questioning their authenticity and relevance.
Diverse Sports Interests: Jon Gabrus and Katie Nolan showcase their varied interests in sports beyond mainstream offerings, highlighting rugby and golf's unique appeals.
Reality TV Critique: A segment focused on reality shows like Temptation Island reveals skepticism about their portrayal of relationships and accountability.
Upcoming Sports Events: The hosts provide listeners with insights into forthcoming sports events, encouraging engagement with different leagues and tournaments.
This episode of Casuals with Katie Nolan offers a blend of humor, critical analysis, and personal anecdotes, making it a compelling listen for both sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.