Gotham FC, Belichick Family Thanksgiving, and GOAT Weird Sports Injuries

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan

Episode: “Gotham FC, Belichick Family Thanksgiving, and GOAT Weird Sports Injuries”
Air Date: November 25, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan | Panelists: Isabella (sports newbie), Chris (master editor), Brady

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This episode is a quintessential post-Thanksgiving romp: a chaotic, hilarious exploration of the latest in sports, culture, and oddly specific fandom, all through the signature “Casuals” lens. Katie and her squad get into everything from listener mail and beloved rivalries, to Gotham FC’s stunning NWSL title, spicy Belichick family drama, the ethics of drafting your girlfriend—and a wild, bracket-style journey through sports’ weirdest injuries.

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1. Kicking Off: Listener Emails, Running Jokes, and Rival Love (02:22–11:58)

• Listener Mailbag: 'Let's Go Pates' and Podcast Lingo (04:23)
  • Multiple listeners share how the in-show term “Pates” (mispronunciation of ‘Pats’ for Patriots) has infiltrated their real-life fan circles.
    • “I screamed, ‘let’s go pates!’ forgetting that maybe my group wouldn’t understand the reference…” – Katie, quoting a listener [05:16]
    • Panel reminisces about coining “Pates” and take pride in the inside joke spreading.
• On Embracing Rival Talents (06:54)
  • Listeners and hosts confess grudging respect or affection for rival teams and athletes.
    • Brady: “My rival high school’s field was so soft—cushy little clouds on my feet. They suck and can go to hell, but little cushy clouds on my feet.” [08:29]
    • Chris: Loving Nick Daicos on the despised Collingwood Magpies (AFL), despite fan pain [08:40]
    • Isabella: Her rival high school yielded NBA star Karl Anthony Towns [09:00]
• High School Principal Scandal Story (09:54)
  • Unexpectedly spicy: a listener connects Brady’s high school to a principal’s arrest for solicitation after a basketball game, and claims Brady “broke the news” to local radio.
    • Brady: “The story was too juicy. I mean, he was fine. Kind of took a little ding to the reputation at that point.” [11:31]
• Ryan Blaney Baby News (12:46)
  • Panel congratulates NASCAR’s Ryan and Gianna Blaney on their new baby, joking about family naming conventions.

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2. Gotham FC’s NWSL Cinderella Run (18:45–23:26)

• Historic Championship Recap (18:45)
  • Gotham FC become the first 8-seed to win a playoff game, let alone the NWSL championship. They vanquished a “historically good Kansas City team.”
    • Katie: “To go from worst to first…incredible ending to the season.” [19:14]
  • Rose Lavelle scores the lone goal, wins MVP. Postgame antics discussed, including family fireball shots on field.
• Rose Lavelle x Kelly O’Hara Interview Clip (20:17)
  • Real, unscripted joy: O’Hara offers a beer, Lavelle hesitant, sings a line from Taylor Swift, then ducks out.
    • Katie: “The most Rose thing is that she's like, ‘yeah…No, I don’t. And I can’t.’” [21:01]
• Megan Rapinoe’s Sideline Commentary & Emily Sonnett Hype (21:37)
  • Rapinoe vouches for Emily Sonnett’s “psychopathic” intensity, pivotal defensive stop, and reputation as “best shit-talker in the NWSL.”
    • Isabella: intrigued by descriptions of Sonnett’s attitude.

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3. WNBA Draft Dilemma: Should Dallas Draft Paige Bueckers’ Girlfriend? (23:42–27:44)

• Dallas Wings Hold #1 Pick Again (23:42)
  • Panel discusses unique scenario: should Wings select Azzi Fudd (girlfriend of phenom Paige Bueckers, last year’s #1 pick)?
    • Katie: “Is it more intriguing to pick the future of your franchise’s girlfriend—or more risky?” [24:39]
  • Panel debates pros and cons. “What if they break up?” and potential for “it couple” marketing magic.
    • Chris: “If they think she's the best overall talent, they should absolutely take her.” [27:14]
    • Brady: jokes about off-court drama affecting on-court chemistry (“Feed me the ball. Yeah, if you empty the dishwasher.”) [26:05]
  • Discussion brackets into workplace romantic entanglements and the precedent of splitting up WNBA couples.

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4. NFL News: Justin Tucker’s Wild Return and Bill Belichick Thanksgiving Drama (29:03–44:27)

• Justin Tucker’s Controversial Tryout (29:03)
  • Saints to evaluate Justin Tucker after suspension for personal conduct policy violation (“sexually inappropriate behavior”). Panel is unimpressed.
    • Katie: “At this point, why bother? It’s just…get a new guy.” [29:37]
  • Mentions underused kickers like Rodrigo Blankenship.
• NFL & Fantasy Musings: Eagles Blow Lead, Cowboys Hype (31:10–33:12)
  • The Eagles collapse against Dallas, but panel agrees the Cowboys still “don’t feel good.” [31:39]
  • Casual sidebar: Isabella dominates fantasy, benching George Pickens [32:07–33:12]
• Belichick Family Feud & Thanksgiving Speculation (35:13–44:27)
  • Recap: Steve Belichick’s wife Jen reportedly confronted Bill and his girlfriend Jordan Hudson in a public, 40-minute meltdown, putting Steve in an “impossible spot.”
    • Katie: “I feel like the biggest shock is that it’s the son’s wife [standing up]. Kind of love that she’s got the balls to say something.” [36:18]
  • Panel speculates on the Belichick Thanksgiving and Jordan Hudson’s unwelcome reshaping of the family dynamic. [39:13–44:27]
    • Wild card: Hudson posts about supporting Bill at “adult male football league competitions”; also, she threatens to sue Pablo Torre. [42:16]
    • Panel discusses the legal absurdity: “She would have to open up to discovery…” – Brady [43:05]

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5. Social & Sports Gossip: Love Lives & Miss Universe Fails (44:28–71:14)

• Athlete-Celebrity Couples

  • Josh Allen and Hailee Steinfeld go public at his college jersey retirement—cutesy brim-bumping hats [34:00]
  • Jack Hughes (NHL) spotted on date with pop star Tate McRae, fresh off a bizarre hand injury at a team dinner. Katie and Isabella critique Tate’s music/dance skills. [45:56–46:42]

• GOAT Weird Sports Injuries (Prompted by Jeff’s listener email; 46:55–58:57)

  • NHL:
    • Dustin Penner injures back “eating pancakes.” [47:58]
    • Eric Johnson tries to brake a golf cart with his foot, tears knee ligaments. [48:49]
    • Craig Anderson cuts hand on frozen chicken. [49:30]
    • Tyson Barrie gets cut wrestling a teammate; Dan Boyle sliced by falling skate. [50:15]
  • MLB:
    • Marty Cordova allegedly misses games after falling asleep in a tanning bed—panel suspects a cover-up (plastic surgeon burns). [51:22, 58:19]
    • Joel Zumaya injures arm via Guitar Hero; Adam Eaton stabs hand on DVD packaging. [52:17, 53:15]
    • Clint Barmes breaks collarbone carrying Todd Helton’s deer meat (panel questions why it's called “deer meat” and not “venison”). [53:36]
    • Jeremy Affeldt cuts hand on frozen burger patties; Vince Coleman run over by tarp machine; Cespedes flees wild boar, twists ankle.[55:35–57:27]
  • Panel’s tone: playful, with skeptical “no way” reactions and validation when Isabella sniffs out the “tanning bed” story as suspicious.

• Miss Universe 2025 Oddities (63:51–71:14)

  • Miss Mexico wins; Norway rocks a disturbing “dead salmon” costume.
  • Miss Jamaica falls off stage, ends up in ICU. [66:12]
  • Miss Great Britain fake falls as a metaphor for her life.
  • Miss Chile goes viral by pretending to snort powder on TikTok (“said it was makeup”).
  • Katie: “Can you really be the Miss of the whole Universe if not a single alien shows up?” [70:34]
  • The competition is riddled with controversy, resignations, and allegations of rigged outcomes.

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6. Rapid-Fire Updates: F1, Sports You Can Watch This Week, and Cricket for Casuals (58:57–76:45)

• F1 Las Vegas Recap (58:57–63:31)

  • Chris explains: McLaren drivers DQ’d for technical illegalities discovered after the race, left Max Verstappen right back in the hunt for driver’s title.
    • “Less than the thickness of a human hair, but the FIA regulates it…” – Chris [60:02]
  • Katie hilariously complains about how Las Vegas physically blocked free public views of a street race.
  • Fashion Alert: Beyoncé’s F1-ready outfit gets panel approval.

• Thanksgiving Sports Watch Guide (73:42–75:57)

  • Turkey Day TV: Packers-Lions, Chiefs-Cowboys, Bengals-Ravens
  • College basketball alt: Richmond-Furman (11am!), North Carolina-Michigan State, Duke-Arkansas
  • Saturday: Michigan-Ohio State headliner
  • Cricket Ashes News: Chris beams as Australia demolishes England in shortest Ashes test since 1880s; panel remains lost on cricket stats.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “She starts singing…and then goes. And that’s an end.” – Chris, on Rose Lavelle stopping mid-Taylor Swift lyric [20:52]
• “It’s almost weirder if they don’t [draft Fudd].” – Katie, on the WNBA girlfriend scenario [27:00]
• “At this point, why bother? It’s just…get a new guy.” – Katie, on Justin Tucker’s comeback [29:37]
• “Somebody stand up and say like, thanks for all your help, Jordan. We’re actually on a tight window…” – Katie, on Jordan Belichick [38:38]
• “I love metaphor for her inviting children to her candy factory.” – Brady, mocking Miss Great Britain’s pageant performance [68:03]
• “Can you really be the Miss of the whole Universe if not a single alien shows up?” – Katie [70:34]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|---------------| | Listener Emails & Inside Jokes | 04:23–12:46 | | Gotham FC NWSL Recap | 18:45–23:26 | | WNBA Draft: Should You Draft Your GF? | 23:42–27:44 | | Justin Tucker/Belichick Family Drama | 29:03–44:27 | | Jack Hughes/Tate McRae & Injuries Bracket | 45:56–58:57 | | Miss Universe Strange Events | 63:51–71:14 | | F1 Disqualifications & Beyoncé Sighting | 58:57–63:31 | | What to Watch This Week/Cricket | 73:42–76:45 |

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Tone & Vibe

Unpretentious, self-aware, and infectiously funny. Katie’s panel hoists niche sports talk with the same enthusiasm as pop culture scandal, and every bit of knowledge is fair game for laughter or learning. The show’s signature: making sports accessible without dumbing them down, and giving as much airtime to wild off-field sagas as to actual scores.

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For new listeners:
You’ll come out knowing the top games this week, why “Pates” is a thing, the best high school sports scandal stories, and more about sports injuries and Belichick Thanksgiving drama than you ever thought you’d want—but you’ll want all of it.

Transcript

[A]

Oh, hey, welcome to gift wrapping.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

So is Saldana.

[A]

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[C]

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[B]

You splurged at T Mobile.

[A]

You can get four iPhone 17s on them. The new center stage front camera is amazing for group selfies. It's the perfect gift for everyone.

[D]

I'm the worst.

[C]

I only got my mom a robe.

[A]

Well, it's better than socks.

[C]

So I have to trade in my old phone, right?

[A]

No, AT T mobile. There's no trade ins needed when you switch. Keep your old phone or give it as a gift.

[E]

Incredible.

[A]

In fact, wrap up my old phone too for my aunt Rosa. Forget that. Aunt Liz will be jealous. Sounds like my family drama. Oh, I got it. I'll give it to my abuela. I'll take reindeer paper with. Hey, where are you going?

[D]

To T mobile.

[C]

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[A]

When it comes to gifting, everyone on.

[B]

Your list deserves something special.

[A]

Luckily, Marshall's buyers travel far and wide hustling for great deals on amazing gifts so you don't have to. That means your mom gets that cashmere sweater, your best friend, that Italian leather bag. Your co workers unwrap their favorite beauty brands, and your nephews the coolest new toys.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

At prices this good, you can grab something for yourself too. Marshalls, we get the deals. You gift the good stuff. Shop [e-mail] or find a store near you. Hey Isabella, did you see that Pope Leo, America's pope revealed that he changes his wordle start word every day.

[B]

Yeah, that's how you should do it.

[A]

Mine was laugh for a while. My favorite my wordle word was laugh. Great, that's exactly what it is. I'm trying to do the laugh, but then once I got it. That's the joy of having the same word every time is that once it's correct, you're like woo, I got it on the first try. And then you gotta come up with a new wordle word. Which did happen once. I was very proud. But have you ever gotten it on the first try?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah, see, you wouldn't. Oh, I wouldn't. Cause you're Doing a different one every day. Yeah. Yeah, but you're in good company. You and the Pope.

[B]

No, but it's more gratifying when you do a different word and then, like, the word gets you closest to what the wordle is. And then it's like, I was on the same vibes as the New York Times person who created this.

[A]

Right. And what does the Bible say about gratification? Illegal. Yeah, I think so. What it says. Hello, and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that aims to keep you entertained and wants. It doesn't care what you know. We really don't care what you know. We're just happy that you're here. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Joined today by my casualties, we have Isabella, our sports newbie.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

Chris, our master editor.

[D]

Hi.

[A]

And Brady, whose daughter just played young Fiona in a play.

[C]

Oh, she's so good. The play was Shrek. That clarifies. She's so good.

[A]

And has Shrek always been a theater adaptation or is that something your schools just.

[C]

No, Shrek's on Broadway.

[A]

It is, yeah. Oh, I didn't. Why? I don't know that. Anyway, we're a sports podcast. You can reach us if you've got issues or if you want to say nice things. Casual. Katienolanmail.com Our voicemail 646-800-10043 on IG and TikTok, we are casual. As the podcast, we got a lot to get to today. So instead of yap, we're doing emails because we've gotten a lot of good emails that we want to address and we don't have time to do both. And the NHL Yap is not where I want it to be. There's so much. Did you guys see that? It got a United States pickup. Now, originally, that rivalry heated. Rivalry is the show based off of the steamy, spicy book talk hockey romance novel. It got a show that was going to be on Crave, which only airs in Canada, and because of the popularity, it's now been picked up, I believe, by HBO Max in the States. So November 28th, we will all be able to watch the premiere. That's what this upcoming weekend of this. Of this show. But the monologue isn't ready and maybe it never will be. There's too much. There's too much. I'm overwhelmed. So today we're going to get to some emails. Chris, do we have good ones queued up and ready to go?

[D]

We always have good ones queued up and ready to go.

[A]

Amazing.

[D]

The first One is from Rebecca and we actually had two emails that were sort of a similar vibe. We also got another one from Jared, but I'm just going to read Rebecca's on this one. Rebecca says, I'm the president of the Baltimore Patriots Fan Club. Basically, we are a group of displaced Patriots fans that live in the Baltimore Greater Baltimore area. We have weekly game watches at a local bar, usually getting between 50 to 60 fans each week, and it's an absolute blast. And if you're ever in the area, we'd love for you to join us. First round is on me and we get free shots every touchdown. Anyway, I have to tell you that during our game today, meaning this weekend after our pick six, I screamed, let's go pates. Forgetting that maybe my group wouldn't understand the reference, but I did use it as an excuse to advertise your podcast and parlayed that into a conversation, how sports are for everyone and you don't need to know all the X's and O's to love the game. I always look forward to Tuesdays and Thursdays because of casuals.

[A]

Hell yeah, Rebecca. And also you said Jared.

[D]

Jared also mentioned he's put in let's go pates in first place pates into everyday lexicon and just started using it without realizing that other people who don't listen to the show might not know.

[A]

What he's talking about, don't understand it. Well, it's funny because people call into the radio show fan service on Mad Dog Sports radio on Sirius XM noon to 1 every Monday through Friday except this Thursday and Friday, taking my first days off. People call in and say like, let's go pates. Or like first place pates. And I'm like, I don't think most people listening to Mad Dog Sports Radio know what we're talking about or they think that we're stupid. And so I think we just have to keep powering through.

[C]

Rebecca, I think picture Nate in your ear. I think he meant pats.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And you go like, no, no, he didn't mean pats. Because I still remember the shock on all of our faces when Isabella asked for the first time.

[B]

I was shocked by your level of shock.

[A]

I was like, is this really that crazy of a. Because technically she's like, it's the Patriots, so P A T S, it must be the pates, right? And as soon as she said it, I was like, yes, from here on out, yes, it will be the first place pates. Dude on a crazy win streak still.

[D]

Rolling in the Bills, another game behind us.

[A]

I know the Bills, and I love Chris says us. Because Chris's accent, as you can tell, is that of a local Pates fan. He was born and raised with the Pates. Yeah. Good weekend for the Patriots. Unless you're a person with the word Patriot in their Twitter username, in which case you were exposed to have been actually based in Russia and not a great weekend for you. What else do we have for emails, Chris?

[D]

An email from Amy, who says, as a native of Natick, Massachusetts, why did.

[A]

You say it like that?

[D]

Say it what? Like what?

[A]

No, just say it again.

[D]

Natick, Massachusetts.

[A]

Yeah, you're just like Natick. You're putting, like, a very big emphasis.

[D]

I just want to make sure I don't sound like I'm saying natick.

[C]

40% more consonants than they pronounce in Massachusetts.

[A]

Just natic. Just.

[D]

It sounds like a D rather than C. Natick.

[A]

I mean, I never really thought about it, like a D, but I guess, sure. They're the rivals of my high school, so, yeah, the nay Dick.

[D]

The Naidics.

[A]

Yeah, it's just nay dick. All opposed.

[D]

Anyway, as a native of Natick, Massachusetts, there are a few things I just like more than Framingham. For years, the one exception I made was Framingham Bakery Pizza Shout Out. I found out my favorite podcaster was also a flyer, at which point, my list of things I liked about Framingham doubled. Which brings me to my question. What thing about your rival? Whether it's a team, school, city? Do you begrudgingly actually, like, love you mean it?

[A]

Mmm, that's tough. Because I have so many rivals. I don't think we've won a Thanksgiving game against Natick in a long time. I don't usually go. It's really early in the morning. Ironically enough, my brother goes, and he went to private school, so I don't know what he's doing at our public high school's football game, but I bet it's drinking in the morning.

[C]

Something about our Thanksgiving's great for a nooner, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, it is. Something about our rival that you begrudgingly actually like. Does anyone here have one that comes to mind immediately?

[C]

My rival high school's field was so soft.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Every time we play there, just like, cushy little clouds on my feet. They suck and they can go to hell, but little cushy clouds on my feet.

[A]

Wow. Okay.

[D]

There is no team in this world that I hate more than the Collingwood Magpies of the Australian Football League. But my favorite player in the Australian Football league is a Collingwood player. Nick Dacos.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Phenomenal. And I love him and enjoy watching him play, even though he demolishes us every time he plays. And he makes me cry. But it is what it is.

[B]

Carl Anthony Towns went to my high school's rival.

[A]

Oh, cool. Yeah, that is cool.

[B]

So I'm kind of, like, jealous that they got Carl Anthony Townes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

One of their alumni.

[A]

I think that's right. Alum. Alumnus alumni.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's cool. Yeah. I don't like anything about Natick, but I also don't hate Natick that much. It's really hard to find something about these teams. I hate that. I begrudgingly, like, I mean, like, I wouldn't call the Dodgers our rival otherwise. I would say, like, that. I like Shohei a lot, but I don't think they're like a rival necessarily of ours, I guess. I really like the way jets fans are able to spell. I think that's something I'm really, you know, begrudgingly, really proud of them for being able to spell the four letter name of their team, you know, and that's probably it. That's all I could come up with. What else we got for emails, Chris?

[D]

This one I love. This is from Liz, and Liz says. Hey, Katie, longtime listener, first time emailer to this podcast. I was listening to your last week and was stopped in my tracks when Brady said Robbie Bromfield as his high school's white rapper. Because I know that name. After checking with my brother, I was quickly told that not only was Brahms from tj, I assume that's Brady's school, but the voice telling us was in fact the same one that broke our high school scandal, that our principal was arrested after a basketball game for soliciting a sex worker on the radio. Excited that one of my favorite podcasters is working with a classmate. Wishing you all happy and holiday season.

[A]

What are you talking about, Brady? What is she talking about?

[C]

I'm talking about. Shout out Liz from Thomas Johnson High School. Chris. I love that Chris breezed through, like, by far the spiciest part of that email.

[A]

Not only was Brahms from tj, but the voice telling us about it, meaning you, Manny, Brady.

[C]

It's a very dense email. Liz was calling back to the time we were sophomores in high school and our principal got busted for solicitation of a prostitute on the way back from a basketball game one night.

[A]

On the way back from a basketball game?

[C]

Yeah. For a shockingly low dollar amount.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait, wait.

[B]

And you're the One who broke the news? Is that what it's saying?

[C]

I don't feel like I broke the news, but I feel like when the local talk radio station said, hey, does anybody from Thomas Johnson High School have any input here, please give us a call. I was like, this is my time to shine.

[A]

You called and talked smack about your own principal?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You didn't like him.

[C]

The story was too juicy. I mean, he was fine. Kind of took a little ding to the reputation at that point.

[A]

On the way back from a basketball game.

[C]

Yeah, just the mean streets of Hagerstown, Maryland. He just made a little pit stop on the ride home.

[A]

Was he.

[D]

Was he.

[A]

Was he married?

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Come on, Brady.

[C]

You know what?

[A]

You gotta know the truth.

[C]

Remember that aspect? I don't know. Was that gonna make it better or worse?

[A]

I guess. I mean. Cause really, it's like, well, if he's. If he's not, and he just, you know, needs a little company after a bad loss, maybe he's. Maybe he had a lot of money riding on that high school basketball game, and he just needs.

[C]

He still had 30 bucks left in his pocket.

[A]

$30 for the whole kit and caboodle?

[C]

No, I think it was whatever caboodle. 30 bucks was gonna be.

[A]

Right, right, right. I think that's just the kit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, interesting. Okay. Happy Thanksgiving, I guess. And shout out to Brahms, who is still in the rap game. Or he retired.

[C]

I believe he retired. To be fair, Brahms has nothing to do with Brahms. Had nothing to do with this story from Hagerstown, Maryland.

[A]

Well, we don't know anything. We could ask. Maybe he's. Maybe somehow. I don't know. We don't know, but we don't think he has anything to do with it. Okay, we got one more. Chris.

[D]

We do. This is from Brian, and Brian said this is a. Did you see that? Did you see that? Jana Blaney and her husband, friend of the pod, Ryan, had their baby last week. Not just friend of the pod.

[A]

Part of the podcast studio.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What are you doing?

[B]

Ryan, Go.

[A]

Go say, Ryan. Go be with your child. Go be with Charlie.

[D]

Change a diaper, dude. Come on.

[A]

Now. Here's the thing. They named him Charlie. C H A R L E Y. But that's how Blaney ends. Ey, don't you feel like that's a strange ee? You know what I mean?

[B]

Maybe they felt like it would look better.

[A]

Charlie Blainey. Yeah, maybe.

[D]

I'm Christopher Tyler. Oh.

[A]

Both ending in er, huh? And I'm Kaitan Nolan. So that's Same for me, I guess. I love that Brian wrote in about Ryan Blaney's baby. That's a lot of Bri Ry Bry. Bye. Congratulations to Ryan and Gianna Blaney on. On their baby. That's so exciting. They were. Yeah, they had said that, right? He said they were. They were close when they.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Oh, my God. Do you think that Charlie's gonna drive cars?

[C]

Not right away, but that's the family business.

[A]

I know. Yeah, he's like fourth generation of doing it, right? Yeah, Ryan. Third or fourth. So we'll see. Maybe flying cars will be around by the time. I feel like we've been promised those for a really long time now, since.

[D]

At least 1985 and I.

[A]

And we're not making like any progress in that regard.

[C]

I think we're losing progress. Like we're falling farther away from trusting humanity to create a safe version.

[B]

We were promised a lot of things.

[A]

You guys getting any way mo's. You guys getting in those self driving cars at all?

[B]

No, I've never.

[D]

I've never even seen them.

[A]

No, I'm not interested. Not interested at all. I listened to two podcasts about AI this weekend that had me on the ledge. You guys had me on a ledge. One of them was about how our economy is completely tied up in this thing and it's kind of circular and cyclical the way they're funding it. So it's like. Feels kind of like a. It could be a big bubble, which is a little scary. And then the other was about how many people are being induced into AI psychosis by their chatbots. So stay careful out there, stay vigilant, and if you do use ChatGPT a lot for work or whatever, just like, don't try to wake it up. That's what I. That's the. That's the slippery slope is as soon as you get alone with it on a Friday and instead of doing work, you're like drinking or, you know, whatever it is you do to take the edge off. And then you hang out with chat and you go like, what's your real name? And where are you from? And do you have a consciousness? And then it starts to talk to you in a way that takes you out of reality. So just everybody please be careful, okay? It like genuinely scares me. Okay, let's go ahead and take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk about Gotham FC winning the NWSL championship. We talk about Dallas getting the first pick in the WNBA draft and if they should use it on their star's girlfriend as well as some drama in the Miss Universe pageant. Before that though, I did want to let you guys know we are running a Black Friday special on our merch. So if you want to get some casuals merch for somebody that you love for the holidays and you use the code Katie25, you get 25% off starting on Black Friday and I think running through Christmas but that's not confirmed so don't take my word for that. But Katie 25 as your promo code to get some sick casuals merch 25% off. Let's take a quick break and we will be right back with more casuals. Before I knew about Vori, I really struggled with stuff that was comfortable and also looks good and makes me feel good. And then I found Vuori. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes. They move with me. I can go from like lounging at home to layering up for my commute to then looking cute on camera as we head into fall and winter. Viori's loungewear is designed to keep up with your life because we all do a lot of things. Sure, I like to do a lot of sitting, but then I also have to get up and go outside and do stuff. And I can wear Viori for both of those things. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential Wide Leg Pant are made with Vori's signature Dream knit fabric. It's super soft, it's stretchy, it's lightweight, it's moisture wicking. Truly, it's effortless and I love my Halo Wide leg pants. That's my errand pant. Fiori is an investment in your happiness. For our listeners. They're offering 20 off your first purchase. Everybody say thank you. Viori. Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on The Planet at viori.comcasuals. that's V U O-R-I.comcasuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions.

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[A]

Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about a Gotham FC pulls off one last stunner, beats Washington one nil for the NWSL championship. This is the first time an eight seed, I believe, has won a single game in the playoffs and certainly the first time that they've won it all. Now granted, they only started having eight seeds, what, two seasons ago? Two or three years ago. So it's not as impressive a stat. But I think it's still impressive to go from worst to first. An absolute incredible ending to the season. My last season. What's wrong?

[D]

And having to beat a historically good Kansas City team along the way as well. You're not just beating a run of the mill top side like this is a historically good team in Kansas City.

[A]

That's absolutely right. And then they lost. So Gotham wins. They won the NWSL championship over the weekend. Rose Lavelle scored the game's only goal in the 80th minute. We all went nuts. She was named MVP. Shout out to Rose Lavelle. For those who don't know, she's got a tradition. I believe it's within her family that they do fireball shots. Her mom snuck in fireball to the game and she was able to take a fireball shot. Kelly o' Hara was covering the game. She did a great job. And there was an interview after where Kelly went up to Rose with a beer for her to drink it. Chris, do you want to play the the clip of this? I'm so proud of you guys. Do you want some beer? Oh, you just won. So do you want to do another one? Fireball.

[D]

Whatever. Later.

[A]

Okay, girl?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. I know you just said that you just like hit the back of the net, but come on, you knew that was going in.

[B]

I don't know. Kelly Brew played a great ball and.

[A]

I hit it with my left foot. Do you have a Taylor Swift song to encapsulate tonight? Oh my Gosh Long live.

[D]

Keep going.

[C]

No. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Congrats.

[A]

Love you. So proud of you. Go celebrate. Yay. Oh, my God. So funny.

[C]

Every emotion in one clip.

[B]

I know. I love how she, like, engaged with it where she was like, ah, ah.

[A]

And.

[B]

Okay, bye.

[C]

I love.

[A]

She starts singing and then goes. And that's an end.

[D]

No, I just realized I'm national tv.

[B]

She changed her mind after everything she did. She's like, no, not the beer.

[A]

Okay. The most rose. The most rose thing is that she's like, yeah. Oh, I. No, I don't. And I can't. So shout out to Gotham. I've said before, this is my last year being able to root for them because Boston Legacy kicks off next season in the nwsl. And as is the law, if there's a Boston team to root for, I cannot root for a New York team. There just hasn't been one. So what a season to go out with for Gotham FC to win the championship. Did you guys see. Was everybody. Did everybody watch the game?

[B]

I did not.

[A]

Wow. Get out game. Get out.

[C]

Riveted, like, hell of a game. The unsung hero you didn't mention. Is that before the game? So Megan was there. Megan Rapinoe was there with the stud buds doing a live stream before the game. Megan walks up to the sideline while the team's warming up, and she introduces. Not really introduced, but, like, she's pointing out the players and, like, if you can get a wave, you can get away save. But she's like that right there. That's my best friend. That's my favorite player. That's Emily Sonnet. Megan says she's psychopath. She a bad.

[A]

She is.

[C]

And Courtney and Natisha were like, all right, that's our favorite player too, then. And the turning point of the game or like, the moment that sage 70th minute or whatever, dude. The spirit ripped a shot on goal and Emily just dives in and takes it off of her rib cage. And they never got a scoring can. It's that good again.

[A]

Isabella, you would love Emily Sonnet. She's a psychopath. She is. She is so psychopathic, I can't even think of a second. She's just so intense. She's so intense. Her face is always so intense, and she's nasty and she'll do anything to win. And as is evidenced by putting herself directly in the. In the line of fire, your friend.

[C]

Sarah Spain was doing red carpet, just talking to all the players, getting at NWSL championship weekend, you know, asking him a few questions. You Know who has the best fits, who's, you know, who would you let babysit your kids? That kind of stuff. When she asked who is the best shit talker in the nwsl, I was like, Emily Sonnet. Emily Sonnet. Yeah, everyone just rapid fire.

[A]

The parade was today. Yes, it's Monday. We're recording this. The Gotham FC parade through New York City was today. I assume because. Quick turnaround because the. There's another big parade coming this week. Not that I. Are you guys going to that? Isabelle, you ever go to the Macy's parade?

[B]

No, I watch them, but I don't. Yeah, but it's not.

[A]

What about you two? Do you watch them?

[C]

You've got kids tv. The kids want to see it because. The kids want to see it this year because they heard there's a Labubu float. Oh boy.

[A]

Let's talk about the Dallas Wings. They won the WNBA lottery again. They've got the number one pick in the draft next April, which introduces a very interesting situation. Now this is the second consecutive year the Wings have picked first. They got Paige beckers in the 2025 draft. And now they could potentially use the number one overall pick on Paige Becker's girlfriend, Az Fudd. That's kind of a complicated dilemma. Other contenders for the number one pick, UCLA's Lauren Betts and TCU's Olivia Miles. So it's not a like an undisputed first pick situation. I can't tell if it's a. If it makes it more intriguing as the number one pick to use it on your star future of your franchise girlfriend or if it means you shouldn't. I think I'm thinking they should. But I'm curious to know your guys thoughts.

[B]

It's hard not to think that it wouldn't be a factor though, because like, I wouldn't want them though to not get her because they're dating.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like I wouldn't want that to play as a factor. But then at the same time, like, I could understand.

[A]

Like, what happens if they break up?

[B]

If they fight.

[A]

I know. Working with your significant other. Have you ever done it?

[B]

I have.

[A]

What did you. What was the job?

[B]

Barista ing.

[A]

Okay. And how did it go?

[B]

Somehow the manager knew that we were dating. I don't know how. And they purposely scheduled us from morning and night shift. So we never worked together.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And never saw each other when you were outside of work?

[A]

Yeah. Damn. And then you stayed date. You're still dating?

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Oh, okay. So it's the same. It's your same boyfriend. What about you, Brady or Chris? You ever work with a significant other?

[C]

No, No. I, I can see all the pitfalls. Like, I, There is enough disputing that goes on.

[B]

He's like, ew.

[C]

Within a relationship. I imagine that's tough on a basketball court.

[A]

But it also could be like, they don't even have to speak to communicate. They can. They're on the same wavelength. They both want to win.

[C]

Okay, but what if. What happens when, you know, you have an inbound pass and it's like, give me the ball, give me the ball. Feed me the ball, feed the ball. And it's like, yeah, if you fucking empty the dishwasher. Sure.

[A]

I don't think. Now listen, he means well. I don't think the dishwasher not being emptied is going to carry over to the basketball.

[B]

I don't know, I can hold a grudge, you know.

[A]

Like, fuck you.

[B]

Like, you didn't unlock the dishwasher.

[A]

I'm not passing it to you. Yeah, you told me that you were gonna clean the bathroom and I ended up having to do it. So I won't be inbounding the ball to you. I think they should take her. I think it's almost weirder if they don't. But it is just a very funny situation to be like, so you guys gonna pick my girlfriend or also just like marketing wise people love these two as a couple. They are a fun, they're like an it couple. And so having them both on your team, I feel like the opportunities are endless. Although I guess you could argue that you could still have those opportunities even if they're on different teams. But I just think, I don't know. I think they should take her. That's my thought.

[D]

They think she's the best overall talent. They should absolutely take her.

[A]

Wow, Chris.

[C]

Awkward. If like they really need a center and like Lauren Betts plays a completely different position than AZ5.

[A]

Yeah. If they, if they've got a need they've got to address. Listen, we're casual, so I'm not really diving in on what they're needing as a team. I'm just more interested in like, do you draft my girlfriend or not? And do you ask me, do you say like, hey, do you want us to draft your girlfriend or would you actually rather. Are you guys on the rocks? You know, are you on? Are you, Are you done? What's your final?

[D]

There's the other thing. If something happens between now and the draft, does that.

[C]

Bite your tongue?

[D]

Flip it the other way.

[A]

I know. First of all, bite your Tongue. How dare you. Haven't we seen this too? I think we've seen this recently with like a WNBA couple, like breaking up and then having to.

[C]

It was with the wings too.

[A]

Yeah. So they've been through this.

[C]

They've been through this.

[A]

Right?

[C]

They. They are not. They are not unwilling to split up a couple.

[A]

Right.

[C]

If I'm Paige, I mean, are you. Which, God forbid. That's a weird scenario. But you being Paige.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

Showing. Showing management everywhere. Hey, this is us at brunch. Just, just saying. Look how cute we were. Just dropping the subtle hints.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Something to keep God without her. I don't even know if I'd want to play basketball anymore.

[A]

Yeah, just saying hint, hint, wink, wink. So we'll keep an eye out. When is the. The draft is far away, correct? It's in like April.

[C]

It's like the day after the NBA college finals.

[A]

That's why it was so crazy last year with Paige. We were like, whoa, what a week and a half you've had. But we'll see. We'll see how that goes. Let's go to the NFL. Oh, good. You put the good news right up at the top here, Brady. I appreciate that. I thought maybe we'd put this in the bottom. But this we just found out today. The Saints, who are. What's their record? They stink.

[C]

They have two wins.

[A]

Two wins. So they. 2 and 9. They are gonna work out Justin Tucker this week. Juster justers. Justin Tucker's 10 game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy due to his involvement in sexually inappropriate behavior was lifted two weeks ago. Now the 36 year old kicker will have a chance to try out for the Saints who are looking for a potential upgrade after their current kicker missed two field goals in Week 12's loss to the Falcons.

[D]

This is the thing that's really gonna, you know, change the season around for the Saints.

[A]

I mean of all the.

[D]

Justin.

[A]

Of all the teams in all the places the Saints. Come on. You're gonna play for the Saints. Cool. I guess. I don't know what even to say. Justin Tucker obviously alleged sexually inappropriate behavior with massage therapists. And we thought he was out and now he could be back in at this point, why bother? It's just. Get a new guy.

[D]

It's.

[A]

He's not gonna save your. I hope he stinks. Ooh, I hope he stinks. I was actually hoping this week Harrison Buckker had a couple big kicks. We're like in that moment, if he makes the kick. I was really hoping he wouldn't but he did. I never thought I'd have so many kickers to root against. I never thought I'd have to care this much about kickers. But. But. All right, so the Saints are gonna work him out this week.

[C]

There are a lot of guys who can kick a football. It's just like. It's not like he's the only kicker sitting out there.

[A]

Yeah, where's. Who else is out there?

[C]

Rodrigo Blankenship.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

College game day. Just sitting around doing YouTube videos and Instagram reels of him kicking field goals for shits and giggles.

[A]

And he's got the glasses. We loved Blankenship. He's a fun character. So far that I know of. I haven't checked if he's got a record. I don't know what. Oh, it's just a bummer, but okay. Hope it turns your season around. Question mark, question mark.

[C]

Just Googling Rodrigo Blankenship. Crime. I think you're good.

[A]

Okay, good. That's good. That's all you gotta do is just Google it. Ask chat, GPT, and it'll go. Do you want to pair up with Rodrigo Blankenship and commit crime? And you'll go, no. That's not what I was saying at all. The Eagles. Eek. They blew a 21 point lead to Dallas this weekend. The question everybody keeps asking is, does this mean the Cowboys are good? And I feel like no is still the answer. Am I nuts?

[C]

They don't feel good.

[A]

They're five. Five and one. Correct.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not exactly the. The record I point to.

[B]

I was like, whoa, what does the one mean?

[A]

They tied once. Oh. Five wins, five losses, one tie.

[D]

Their offense can get hot really quick, so that's a positive in their direction. But their defense still isn't particularly great, even though they looked okay against the. The Eagles.

[A]

Did you start Pickens? Isabella, I know we're not doing your favor.

[B]

No, I was watching that game at some point, and I saw that George Pickens was doing well, and I was like, I benched him. I'm so pissed. That's fine.

[C]

It doesn't matter because you score 190 goddamn points every week.

[D]

100. How many?

[C]

Not 100. 100. Third. She's gonna win again. Spoiler.

[A]

Isabella.

[D]

Well, we don't have to talk about.

[A]

It on Thursday, so it's.

[D]

It's fine.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we don't have. We're not going to talk about it on Thursday, so.

[D]

So we got to know you're gonna win. I guess it's a win.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just waiting.

[C]

She has one player. She has Christian McCaffrey still to go, and she's ahead by three.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[C]

So unless he runs backwards 30 yards, 31 yards.

[A]

Yeah, man. And you've got. And you had how many points on her bench?

[B]

A good amount. George Pickens was, like, 29 points.

[C]

Yeah, 29. Six for Pickens. Daniel Jones, 16. It's everything you do.

[D]

Because Caleb had a good weekend, right?

[A]

I think so, yeah.

[C]

Caleb had 21 points. That's the thing. Like, are the Cowboys good? No, it's just everyone that Isabella picked up has been amazing.

[A]

Yeah. It's the. It's the magical touch. She's really just got it. If you're on her team, you're gonna be good. Yeah. You know, most other sports podcasts would talk for a long time about this game. I just wanted everybody to know that it happened, and then we're gonna move on. You know what I'm saying? I'm, like, winking at the camera. I mean, The Eagles are 8 and 3 and well in charge of the NFC east, so it's like, whatever. All right, we got a couple couples stories, some love in the air to update you all on. First of all, did everybody see Hayley and Josh at Wyoming retired his jersey, which feels like one of those, like, oh, he ended up being good in the NFL, so now we'll retire his.

[B]

Is that his college? Yes. Okay.

[A]

His retirement.

[C]

He was great in Wyoming.

[A]

He was.

[C]

Yeah. You just didn't notice because he was playing at Wyoming.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't watch anything.

[C]

It's not like they were national championship contenders. I mean, you can qualify it as he's, like, the greatest quarterback in the history of Wyoming. Sure.

[A]

Okay. If he had gone to the NFL and sucked, they still would do this.

[C]

Probably. You just wouldn't hear about it. And Hawkeye wouldn't be. His wife.

[A]

Isn't Hawkeye.

[C]

No, she. She's the Marvel. She's the Marvel. Hawkeye.

[A]

Marvel. Hawkeye is a man. Is it not?

[C]

There's two Hawkeye. There's Hawkeye and then girl Hawkeye. She's girl Hawkeye.

[A]

Okay, but you're saying Hawkeye.

[C]

No, See, this is.

[A]

I was like, hawkeye is his wife. His wife. Yeah. Wait, right. Anyway, Hailee Steinfeld. His wife. Hot guy. Hot guy. Hailee Steinfeld. Girl Hawkeye was at the game with him. I just saw a cute clip of them. I wanted to make sure everybody saw. Did you see it? Go look it up. They both had hats on and their brims were bumping into each other's brims. I don't know, I just thought they were just sweet and cute. I thought it was like a cute little moment. They're so in love. And so anyway, congrats to him on the on having his jersey retired and being married to a hot guy.

[D]

Mm.

[A]

Let's get to the part I really want to talk about when it comes to love is Jordan. Jordan Hudson. Big weekend for her. Here are some of the things that happened because there's multiple On Friday, a report came out claiming Bill Belichick's daughter in law, Jen, so this is the wife of his son, exploded on Jordan Hudson in an unhinged 40 minute post game rant earlier this month. The incident went down inside the 73 year old's office at Kenan Memorial Stadium in Chapel Hill, North Carolina just after the Tar Heels beat Stanford 20 to 15, according to sources. I believe this was what the New York Post was who gave us this Jen screamed all Jordan quote does is control. Shit. End quote. Before she called Bill's significant other, quote, batshit crazy. And at one point, sources said Jen told the room, which included Jen's husband, UNC defensive coordinator Steve Belichick, Bill Jordan and multiple others, that she didn't care if her eruption resulted in Steve's termination or Bill disowning her. Wow.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Jen yelled that Jordan was quote, twisting end quote, Bill's brain before she urged the six time super bowl champion to, quote, wake up. Sources said she went on to issue an ultimatum to Bill, you choose your family or you choose her. Okay. It's quite a report. Now this report came out this weekend, but apparently this was earlier this month so not, not, you know, this past weekend. I feel like for me the biggest shock is that it's the son's wife who, I mean I get it, Steve is employed by Built, but it's like I kind of love that she's got the balls to stand up and say something. It certainly seems like some. I've been wondering this whole. Who's gonna say something?

[B]

Yeah. I'm wondering what his family's been thinking.

[D]

So.

[A]

Right. Like I know he's got a daughter who probably has.

[D]

They're all with Jen. I feel like.

[A]

Right. Thoughts. I think from what we've heard reported is that they seem pretty sick of. Of this woman who their father in law or father is in love with.

[D]

It appears Steve being in the middle of that during, during that fight, like my wife is yelling at my dad and my dad's young Girlfriend in front of me and others. Strange situation to be a part of. Especially when he probably should have spoken up a bit earlier.

[B]

I know afterwards he's like, thanks, babe, for saying that.

[A]

You really couldn't say that. But you. I know he definitely didn't stand up and say something in that moment. But to say, I don't even care if you fire him. I wonder if Steve was like, now wait, now, wait, now hold on. She's talking. She's talking crazy. And I've been considering a divorce. So this is easily. It's just like a wild thing to say. But look, I'm of the mindset that, like, it's kind of about time I. This is the. When Pablo was telling me all about this relationship and all the people that were there and like we watched the video from NFL Films of the behind the scenes of just like Matt Patricia sitting there just like letting it happen. You're like, somebody stand up and say something. Somebody stand up and say like, thanks for all your help, Jordan. We're actually like on a tight window and we got to get this recorded. So why don't you head back to the control room and. And we're going to get on with this project. You have nothing to do with. No one's ever just going like, who are you? And why do you have input so you could argue. Maybe this isn't. Jen wasn't the. It wasn't like the most well thought out or maybe it was inappropriate to do where she did it. It seems like I've been. If it were me, I been would have been holding this in since the beginning of like, somebody's gotta say something to him about this woman and her ability to kind of come in and just take everything over and cause a scene as she did on Saturday after.

[E]

What.

[C]

What do you think their Thanksgiving looks like?

[A]

Oh, well, I don't know.

[C]

You think they do a big table, big family at the bell?

[B]

Do they have a kids table and they have an adults table?

[A]

And where does Jordan sit? I think that they probably. Oh, I don't know. I actually don't know and would kind of love to know. It would be like one family I was certain had a worse one than me. You know what I mean? Like, you get all the drama that goes on at your Thanksgiving. At least you're not. Your dad isn't dating.

[B]

Oh, I would love to be at that Thanksgiving.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Like a fly on the wall, like.

[A]

So badly to know. I'll bring pie.

[C]

Yeah, she absolutely has redone the entire menu since she's gotten there.

[A]

I'll bring strategy for Bo Belichick. Cook, do you think?

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

I just don't know. You know what I mean? Well, after. This is another thing Jordan did after Saturday's loss to Duke. Hudson posted to Instagram. I've loved supporting Bill Belichick at his adult male football league competitions this season because obviously, what was it last weekend we said that he went and supported her at her adult co ed cheerleading competition. So a little bit of.

[B]

Oh, is she trying to be.

[A]

I think. Oh, I think she's trying to say adult. All male now. Are they all adults?

[B]

I'll say. Isn't they college kids?

[A]

Aren't some of them at least there's probably.

[D]

At this stage of the season, they're probably all. I'm all adults say, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay.

[D]

Still.

[A]

Still just a strange thing to say.

[C]

Also on Saturday, after a loss.

[A]

Yes. A pretty bad loss also. They're done, right? That's. She's like posting her goodbye. That was their last home game.

[C]

Their last home game. They have one more at NC State.

[A]

She also posted a full picture of her lanyard of her credential, which if you've ever been given a credential for anything, you know, the only rule is don't take a picture of it and post it on social media. So just feels like obviously the. There's no more home games but. And they'll probably change them, but you still shouldn't ever post it. But that's fine. What do I know? Also on Saturday, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reported, quote, the ongoing coverage of Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson by the New York Post is one of the many reasons for the Giants complete lack of interest in the possibility of hiring Bill Belichick to coach the team. Florio wrote for Profootball Talk. While the Giants hiring Belichick likely wouldn't have happened anyway, the Giants have no interest in hiring their coaches. Become elected lightning rod for relentless coverage. Due to his relationship with Hudson, I think they weren't gonna hire him anyway. That feels like a strange. Like you're not reading the New York Post like that, right? The New York Post is like, the.

[D]

Giants aren't gonna let something like that get in the way of a hire if they wanted him. But at the same time, this makes the decision much easier. Very easy. If they did have something in the back of their mind where they're like, you know what is it worth reaching out to Bill? Eh, probably not.

[A]

Probably not. And then lastly, on Sunday Hudson says she is suing Pablo Torre posting to Instagram. P.S. i'm Suing youst quick question. Legally, what does that mean for me?

[C]

I don't believe you're on payroll. I think you're good.

[A]

Oh my God, that's right. I didn't make any money. I was there for free. I was there on a volunteer basis.

[C]

Don't even know if you're there willingly.

[A]

Will I have to testify?

[B]

You're just chilling.

[A]

How does suing work? Do I have to? What am I gonna wear to court?

[C]

Hopefully there is absolutely nobody more psyched to be threatened to be sued than Pablo.

[D]

Right?

[A]

I mean, from last I checked, he's reached out to her. She's never gotten back to him. So it's like, can you sue for this? What would she sue for?

[C]

She would have to prove that he's making unfalse claims, which means she would have to open up.

[A]

You mean untrue claims.

[C]

I'm sure untrue claims.

[A]

Right.

[C]

She would have to open up to discovery. Right.

[A]

Wait a second.

[C]

Items. And especially considering everything their communication would be done for a public university, there would just be very easy FOIA requests.

[A]

So not advisable, I don't think, to sue.

[C]

Also not a lawyer. So don't take this same too seriously.

[D]

Well, sounded smarter than what I would have said.

[B]

That guy who called into fan service. That's a lawyer called.

[A]

Yeah. Remember that random day when I was like, hello, smartest man who's ever talked to me? No offense. All right.

[C]

And then at the Thanksgiving table, if I'm Steve Belichick, I, I, the number of times that I would just make references to be like, oh man, this tastes just like mom's cranberries. Like I, it would be unassailable. I would be thrown out of the window. There's no way I could not.

[A]

There's no way they're all going to the same Thanksgiving. There's just no way, especially after a blow up like this, that Steve and his wife are sitting down at a table with Bill and his child bride and eating some sort of what, a deep fried turkey? Turkey wrapped in bacon? I just don't think, I just don't think they'll probably gather.

[C]

But you think Bill and Jordan is like a quiet table for two at like P F Chang's on Thursday?

[A]

Yeah, definitely.

[B]

They do their own solo thing. I could see that being a thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the family just kind of gets.

[A]

Together without them and talks endlessly about them, most likely. But I don't know if You've got more inside information on that, Maybe. Let us know. If you're at the Belichick holiday Thanksgiving, please call us and leave it on speakerphone and we'll just record the whole thing. But the real relationship news I wanted to talk about. Did you guys see that? Jack Hughes was spotted. Jacques Hughes was spotted on a date with Tate McCrae. New Jersey Devils forward Jacques Hughes, who is out for something like eight weeks after an injury he incurred at a team dinner where a glass broke in his hand. Question mark, question mark. We're not really sure how that happened. Somebody took a picture of them and sent it into deux Moi. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that, but it's like a gossip account. And they posted originally, before they had to change the caption because everybody got in the comments and were like, hello, that's Jack Hughes. They said, Tate McCray spotted out to dinner with a man in a wrist cast or something. Mysterious man. And then everybody was like, excuse me, he's a famous hockey player. Which goes to show just how big the scale gets on. On fame when it comes to the NHL. But alas, Dumois was like, my bad. And changed the caption to reflect that this was, in fact, a hockey player who was seen on a date with singer Tate McCray. Now, Isabella, you and I talked about this. Are you a Tate McCray fan?

[B]

I'm not. I don't really know much about her.

[A]

Same. I know she can dance. She's one of the better pop girl dancers. She can really put on a show. Yeah, but her, like, music has never really. I know. I think sports car is her and I know of it. It's just not as catchy. Her music isn't as catchy as. I'm trying not to be mean, because who am I? But she's just not. I haven't. I don't have. I'm not a fan of hers, I guess, is what I'm dancing around saying.

[C]

I think she has songs. She has songs that are better, not as pop songs.

[A]

What is that?

[C]

I heard one of those, like, punk covers of Greedy and I was like, damn. Like, this is way better than the. Like, they just missed the call.

[B]

I hate when that happens.

[A]

Greedy is kind of a banger.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When artists are doing better at, like, covering other songs, you're like, oh, this sounds so good. Why don't you make more music like that?

[A]

We got an email about this, Chris. You said.

[D]

We did. We got an email from Jeff, who said, hi, Katie. Isabella Brady. And Chris, love the show. I got inspired by Jack Hughes's recent injury. Thank you. And it really made me think of all the off field injuries in the NHL and mlb. Now initially Jeff sent this through as a bracket of all the strange injuries. But that's just going to be too difficult, I think to go through in bracket form. But he did all the research of putting together some strange and fascinating injuries from the world of NHL and mlb. So I thought we'd just run through some, some. Some of these and get Isabelle's reaction of them and. And see which one is our favorite. Which one.

[A]

Perfect. I love that.

[D]

Which one's the best.

[A]

You take no way.

[B]

No way for the first one.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

That's actually the right answer. Isabella. Like so much, some of these you're going to be able to spot as bullshit. That's not what happened.

[A]

Go ahead, Chris.

[C]

These are all the publicly revealed stories.

[D]

All right, so these are the. The headings that. That Jeff sent across. The first few that I'm going to read out from the world of the NHL. Dustin Penner hurting back while eating pancakes.

[A]

I remember this how.

[B]

Because he leaned over too much. He really loved it. He was licking the plate.

[D]

Hurts back while eating pancakes.

[A]

How.

[D]

All right, so this, this is, this is what Dustin Penner said. He said I woke up fine, sat down to eat and it locked right up. It never happened to me before. I couldn't stand up. I was probably at the third stage of evolution. So my wife helped me get dressed and then I drove to the ring. Kia. So he just sat down to eat and it just happened. His back just locked up.

[A]

I feel like the pancakes took a stray on that. There could have been anything on the plate in front of him. It wasn't the pancakes fault.

[D]

Bad, bad Pia.

[C]

This wasn't like when Dustin May was eating lettuce and the lettuce.

[A]

Oh my God. All the way down his insides and split him open. No more lettuce for me after that. What? Yeah. Crazy. All right, next.

[D]

Next one. Blues defenseman Eric Johnson. This is back in 2008. Tore two ligaments in his right knee after trying to apply brakes to a golf cart.

[C]

I've seen that happen that athletes are that dumb. They will do that.

[A]

Wait, like pushing a break with his foot and he tore.

[C]

No, like every. In a people in a golf cart being like, I want to stop real quick. Let me just stick my leg out because I'm confident that my leg can stop a golf cart. Yeah, it will wreck your leg.

[D]

This one's his right Foot got caught between the accelerator and the brake. What?

[A]

Have you ever driven before, bro? That's scary. Okay, next.

[D]

This one's pretty self explanatory. Craig Anderson heard his hand cutting a frozen chicken.

[B]

Yeah. Stupid.

[D]

That's an easy one.

[A]

Why would you do that?

[B]

Awful. I would never know. Also, what are we cutting? The frozen chicken. Why are we cutting it at this point?

[A]

What makes you think you can. Oh, it must have been like frozen chicken.

[D]

Like two breasts, two of them stuck together. Yeah. Like if you got like a pack of, you know, two or three breasts together and you're trying to cut them apart. Three, perhaps. They're small.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. And then. And he cut it. He cut it. That's so dumb, Craig.

[B]

You should have just ran some hot.

[A]

Water over it and like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But bless your hand and bless you.

[A]

Next.

[D]

Next one. Tyson Barry of the Colorado Avalanche got a cut on his leg from wrestling a teammate in a hotel room.

[A]

Sounds right.

[C]

That one checks out.

[A]

Yeah, a big cut.

[D]

Boys will be boys.

[A]

Yeah, sure. Not a phrase I'm usually a huge fan of, but that one, I guess does. Safe there.

[B]

There's some hard corners in a hotel room.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

All right, this one. This is the last NHL related one.

[A]

Okay, good.

[D]

I think Dan Boyle hurt his wrist. This one makes a lot of sense. This one's scary. Hurt his wrist when a skate fell out of his locker. He was trying to hang the skate and it slipped and it sliced some tendons.

[C]

No Final Destination right there. Yes.

[A]

That's like anytime I drop anything kind of sharp, I immediately go, ah. And run from it in case it might do this.

[B]

And then I stay silent for like 10 minutes.

[A]

I'm like, is everything okay? Did everybody get away safely?

[D]

That's a gross one.

[A]

Yuck.

[D]

All right, should we move across to the baseball?

[A]

Sure.

[D]

Injuries.

[A]

That's a lot of injuries.

[D]

Marty Cordova. I know there is. Jeff did a great job researching for us. Marty Cordova fell asleep in a tanning bed and became too burnt to play.

[A]

That's Final Destination. That's scary. Doesn't that happen?

[C]

It's literally Final Destination.

[A]

Yeah. They get locked in a tanning bed and they. And they die. That's embarrassing, Marty. That's really, really embarrassing. You fell asleep. Also, they're on a timer, so even if you fall asleep, they shut off.

[C]

I don't know what it was, like 1998.

[A]

So what? I think they were on timers.

[B]

Tanning bed Assistance, where it's like, oh, hey, it's time.

[A]

Unless he's like, got his own in his house. Unless he's got it like that. Which maybe we used to say that as, like, a burn, no pun intended, on girls who would tan too much. Be like, what are you doing booking overnights at the tanning salon? It's not funny. Now that's bullying. Okay, great. What else?

[D]

Detroit Tigers pitcher Joel Zamier hurt his wrist by playing Guitar Hero. So he had some inflammation in his right arm. And apparently once the Tiger's training staff realized his injuries were. Were more consistent with the action of a guitar player than a baseball pitcher, he realized that he had to.

[A]

Oops.

[D]

Had to stop playing as much.

[B]

That's believable.

[A]

Oopsie.

[C]

That was the summer those guys were playing a shitload of Guitar Hero.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's addicting. So, I mean, I get it.

[A]

Yeah. And if you get the expert, the. The. The quickness with which you've got a. Yeah, that's tough. I could see that.

[C]

I wish I could remember the guy's name. But they also traded the guy who owned it. Oh, and he took. He took it with him. And that became a big point of.

[A]

Drama that year, is that they didn't have access to the Guitar Hero anymore.

[C]

At least for, like, two days. They're like, oh, we. He took it with him. Like, what if you got to practice baseball?

[A]

They went ahead and bought a new one with all that money.

[C]

You know, a lot of foresight.

[A]

Sure. Okay. What else?

[D]

Adam Eaton. This is a famous one. Adam Eaton stabbed himself while trying to open a DVD packaging.

[A]

And this is me every Christmas. This is me every Christmas. They're just, like, so hard to get into. And you, like, you think you got a flap open, and then you're like, just give me scissors. And then the slicing and the. Yeah, I could see. I could do that. I could see that happening.

[D]

Clint Balmus broke his collarbone while carrying deer meat from Todd Helton. So this is a Colorado rookies shortstop from back in the mid 2000s. He said he was lugging a package of deer meat he got from teammate Todd Helton when he fell and broke his collarbone.

[A]

Okay, Isabella, thoughts?

[B]

Was it. Was it worth it?

[A]

Also, aren't we. Don't we just call that venison? Why are we calling it deer meat?

[C]

Because I believe that, again, is a. That feels like a distraction, that we're trying to focus too much on the wrong thing. It's like when Jeff Kent said he. Remember Jeff Kent said he broke his wrist washing his truck, that he fell off his truck. And he also just. It was found out that he also happened to have had a motorcycle with a lot of damage on it.

[A]

Ooh. Two separate incidents. We couldn't possibly say they were related. He rode that. It crashed. He got off, came home immediately, washed his car, and was like, ow. Something hurts here. Okay. Dear me breaking your collarbone? What, did he heft it over his shoulder and snap his.

[C]

No, he fell down the stairs.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What? Okay. All right. Sure. That's so embarrassing. You didn't hunt this meat yourself. Somebody had to give you the meat as a gift. And then you hurt yourself. Just trying to bring it down the stairs is very embarrassing.

[D]

It's a good point. Next one. Sammy Sosa threw his back out after two violent sneezes brought on back spasms.

[B]

I believe it.

[A]

I believe it too.

[B]

I completely believe it.

[A]

I truly. I mean, sometimes you push too hard and your back is like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And so a sneeze. I don't know why I'm getting a thumbs up. Apparently, Zoom also Poops gave me a thumbs up on that. I just feel like a sneeze is such a quick, forceful that if you were having a back problem, I could see that. I could absolutely buy that. Yeah.

[D]

Now this next one is. Is similar to the Craig Anderson cutting his hand with frozen chicken. Jeremy Afelt hurt his hand while trying to split frozen hamburger patties.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

When they're really stuck and you're like, come on, dude.

[D]

And the paper just pays off on the side. The paper doesn't do shit.

[A]

Doesn't do shit. Really? We're not talking about that enough. What's the point? Right? Put. Make it cardboard, if that's what we need.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's supposed to be here to help me split these things up. Meanwhile, I'm out here hurting my hand. Unacceptable.

[D]

Agreed. Second, last one. Vince Coleman hurt his leg from being run over by the tarp machine.

[A]

Oh, God. That would really hurt.

[B]

What's the tarp machine?

[A]

What's that?

[D]

The machine that. That you use that they use to get the tarp to cover the baseball field when it's raining. He didn't get out of the way in time as they were trying to get the tarp.

[C]

What?

[D]

He gets sucked up into it.

[A]

Scary. What are you saying? Tarp for our listeners that might not know what he's talking about.

[C]

I feel like there is a chance.

[D]

Really?

[A]

That top. Top. I. What else could he have been?

[C]

The top. The best machine.

[B]

Chris, they're gaslighting you.

[C]

The top machine.

[A]

The top machine. Yeah. Tarp. Did he get sucked up in it?

[D]

Essentially.

[A]

Oh, my God. That'd be really scary. That's like whenever you hear about somebody who's like, dress got caught in an escalator and got like. And they were like, nightmare.

[B]

There's a scary movie of like these two girls that got caught underneath, like a pool cover. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what it's called.

[C]

I think these are all final destinations.

[A]

I think so too. Wasn't there one where, like, a kid got his inside sucked out from his butt cuz he sat down on the suction part at the bottom of the pool? Or is that in real life and.

[D]

That boy was RFK Jr.

[A]

Brutal.

[D]

And the last one. Yeah, the last strange injury you went. A cesspitus hurt his ankle while encountering a wild boar at his ranch. When he tried to sort of escape or get away from the boar, he twisted his ankle in a ditch.

[A]

Well, who among us hasn't twisted their ankle trying to get away from a wild boar at their ranch? You know, pretty common stuff.

[C]

Rich person problems.

[D]

All right, Isabella, which one was the strangest?

[B]

The strangest. I'm gonna go with. The tanning bed one. I don't. I just really feel. I think that one is the one I feel the most uncomfortable with.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, how are you too burned to play? Couldn't you just. You're either like, so burned you have to go to the hospital or like, your skin hurts a little. Right. But to burn to play is like.

[C]

So Marty Cordova said the burns. It looked like cigars had been put out on my face. Were the result of a plastic surgeon in Las Vegas removing ingrown hairs with a laser beam. Cordova said he didn't want to hurt the plastic surgeon's business, so he decided not to talk about them and let the tanning bed story go for a long time.

[A]

Isabella, you sniffed out the lie perfectly.

[C]

You sniffed it out.

[A]

You even said like, that's the craziest one. And it's like, come to find out it wasn't real. He was just trying to protect a plastic surgeon. Oh, wow.

[B]

Shout out me.

[A]

Shout out you. Shout out you. All right. And shout out to. Who wrote this email? Chris.

[D]

Jeff.

[A]

Shout out to Jeff. We love you and we mean it. What a fun segment. Okay, moving on. F1. Chris, I actually not to make you do the talking again, but I do feel like you're our racing sport guy. And there was F1 controversy this weekend. It was in Las Vegas. The only controversy I saw was that they weren't letting Anybody stop to watch the race? They set up these big walls to, basically, they put on this big F1 race in the middle of the streets of Las Vegas. And then they made it. So, like, if you didn't buy a ticket, you couldn't possibly catch even a glimpse of what was happening, because then how would they make money off of you? And so I saw people were riding the escalators on the Strip up and down to be able to, like, you can't say, I'm stopping. I'm not stopped on a walkway and watching, because that's not allowed. And they were just going up and down the escalator taking pictures of, like, a glimpse of cars, which pissed me off. If you're gonna have a race in the middle of the streets, then let the streets see the race. It seems counterintuitive, but there actually was something that happened with the actual f1ing. Right, Chris, that happened, and we need you to explain it.

[D]

There was. So this is the third last race of the season. Lando Norris took a pretty hefty lead into the race on points. Oscar Piastri was second, Max Verstappen third. At the conclusion of the race, Max Verstappen had won, closing the gap to the other two. Lando Norris came second. Oscar Piastri came fifth. But three hours after the race, the FIA determined that the specs on the McLaren, both McLaren cars, were illegal. There was. There was something to do with the amount of tread or wear on, like, a pad on the bottom of the car was slightly. Slightly over whatever the. The Max is supposed to be. So on Norris's car, The wear was 0.12 millimeters over the limit. Non piastres, it was 0.26. So, like, less than the. The thickness of human hair, essentially. But like the fi. Human hair, the FIA regulates it like this. Whatever this piece underneath the car is, it's very strict. There has to be under a certain amount. And because their car didn't pass inspection, Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri were disqualified, meaning that Max Verstappen is now in equal second position in the standings with Oscar Piastri. And now he is only 24 points behind Lando Norris in first. So it's really made the last two races is very, very intriguing. It's really anyone's championship to win. Now, McLaren have already wrapped up the Constructors Championship, but as far as the drivers Championship goes, this race, the decision to disqualify both McLaren drivers has made it really, really interesting and really opened it up for Max to claim another title.

[A]

Two more full races in the F1 season in human rights capitals of the world, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. So we'll have to keep an eye out on that. All right. So that's crazy. People were not, people were going nuts about it. Chris. People are, like, upset.

[D]

Well, yes, in the sense that, like, it's, it's just one of these weird things in, in Motorsport, or in F1 specifically, where you watch a race, you see the results, but then something can change so far after the race has been determined, after the results of.

[A]

And it's because of something that you can't. That doesn't matter to us in our.

[D]

Exactly. Something so minute, so insignificant, seemingly. But that's part of the rules. And the FIA and McLaren have both agreed that, like, this was, this was not cheating. They didn't do this on purpose. It was just something that happened that didn't really gain them any advantage. But it's really shaken up the, the race to, you know, the championship race. So it's going to be, it's gonna be fascinating. Last couple of weeks.

[A]

I wonder what Beyonce thought about that. Did you see. Beyonce was at the.

[D]

I, I, I saw race.

[A]

Chris. Chris definitely saw. I can tell by his reaction. Isabella, did you see?

[B]

Oh, I see now. Beautiful.

[A]

Yeah, she, she had two, I think I saw two racing themed outfits, both stunning.

[B]

She looked, oh, here's the full fit. Okay.

[A]

Cute, cute. Wait.

[B]

Oh, that's a coat on top. I was like, is that a cape?

[A]

Yeah. Chris. That's not all. I don't think what Chris was focused on. Oh. If you, if you know what I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Brady's back. We can also ask him how he felt about Beyonce's outfit.

[C]

Beyonce arrived.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Beyonce arrived at F1 in style. What can I say? Seen that side of Beyonce in a while.

[A]

What side? What side?

[C]

I mean, we've seen the front side, but not as present.

[A]

Miss Universe 2025. Now you might think, gosh, Katie, every sports podcast has really talked about this Miss Universe over and over and over. It's like, we get it, but look, we do have to talk about it. It's over and a lot happened. Miss Mexico has been crowned Miss Universe 2025. Congratulations. Fatima Bosch, 25 years old, received her crowning glory from 2024 winner Victoria from Denmark during the pageant in Thailand on Friday, November 21, coming ahead of first runner up, Ms. Thailand. It was a crazy competition. And here are some of the strangest things that happened. Number one, Ms. Norway. Norway.

[B]

I didn't know what I was to expect.

[A]

I don't know when they started doing this, but it is my favorite thing about Miss Universe is they make them come out and scream their country at you. And so at the beginning of the competition, you can get a super cut of just everyone screaming their country's name anyways.

[D]

And I listened to the whole thing.

[A]

Sick.

[C]

Moldova showed up and just didn't say a word. Like froze like 8 mile style. Just. Just kind of walked up out, got to the microphone, turned around, went back.

[A]

Wow. Capital one line chis. I don't know how to say it out loud, but that is the capital of Moldova. Norway capital Oslo had a. The Miss Norway had a salmon inspired costume. They have to dress up in a costume. And hers was like inside of it. Have you ever seen that tweet that was like. Like salmon. When it finds out that a color was named after it and it says like, oh, so is it a beautiful silvery blue? Like my scales? Is it a nice beautiful silvery blue? And they go, no, it's more of like a pink. And the salmon's like, what about me is pink? What do you mean it's pink? Can you imagine if a human color was like our inside it was just red. It's so fucked up. But. So the inside of her costume had like salmon colored.

[B]

Yeah, I don't like it.

[A]

I don't like it either.

[B]

I'm nervous.

[A]

I'm really sorry. Norway. I really don't like it. Okay, Ms. Jamaica, we don't have her saying her name, do we?

[D]

Nope.

[A]

No. Because Ms. Jamaica was hospitalized after falling off stage. Now listen, people falling, sometimes it's just a natural reaction. You laugh, you can't help it. And then other times it's like pretty crazy. I've seen many people falling off of stages. This was one of the more. I had no idea drop was potentially coming. Like, you can tell she is just thinking she's regular old walking. And the ne. One of the steps just goes into a hole and she goes all the way in. And she was taken out on a stretcher. Do we have an update on Ms. Jamaica?

[C]

Last I looked, she was still in the hospital.

[A]

Oh my God.

[D]

She's still at icu.

[A]

Okay, I see you.

[D]

That's what the article said that I read. Yeah.

[A]

And they just went on with the competition. Is kind of mean.

[D]

As of yesterday, she was. She is to remain hospitalized in ICU for at least another week.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

So embarrassing and scary and. But also embarrassing. Can you imagine if when you were wearing that salmon costume that happened? Jamaica, we'll do it for her. Jamaica. Very good. Okay. And then Miss Great Britain.

[B]

Great Britain.

[A]

Okay. She didn't bring it all. She also fell, but she claimed this was on purpose. What said good Britain, fine Britain. She claimed it was choreographed.

[D]

Yeah. So it was sort of part of this performance where she was sort of strutting across the stage and then fell. You're like, what's happening? But then she got up and she sort of took off. Off one costume to reveal another costume. And she said it was like a metaphor for her struggles and how she.

[A]

Got through, oh, my goodness.

[D]

Certain, you know, down periods in her life and how she fought through it, but definitely looked like a fool.

[C]

I love metaphor for her inviting children to her candy factory.

[A]

I was gonna say it's very Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I love a hawk girl giving me a metaphor for her life. Love it. I love when they're like. And then times were hard, and that's where I'll fall. And then when I get up, I'll change outfits, and that'll be my phoenix. I'm rising from the ashes. All right. And then Miss Chile. Now that's what I'm talking about. Bring that. Yell at me about it. Really scream your country into my face. She had to apologize because what she had. She mimicked snorting cocaine in a TikTok video. Is this at the competition?

[D]

She was doing some TikTok trend, and.

[C]

The TikTok trend is cocaine, where in.

[A]

The trend, you make it, you line it up, and then you block one side of your nose, and you go. And then it goes up into your nose, and then you start a business with your friends. Yeah, that's the TikTok trend.

[D]

And she was, like, snorting white powder but said it was makeup. Wait, wait.

[A]

You should not snort your makeup.

[C]

Ew.

[D]

Ow.

[A]

What are you talking about? Never snort your. Did she actually snort it? Or she just, like, pretended to and then was like, it's face powder. I don't know, dude. That's absolutely insane. And she just had to apologize. They didn't. I don't think she got kicked out or anything. In general, I don't know what was going on with Miss Universe this year. It seems like there were a lot of controversies, as judging by the fact that The Miss Universe 2025 Wikipedia has a subheading called controversies, and there's multiple in there. There was, like, a gambling casino promotion that was in trouble. I don't know if you guys saw the video of a bunch of women walking out, because one of the contestants was called Dumb. By one of the guys in charge, there was people resigning. Steve Burn, the comic who is to host the whole thing, resigned days before because of the questions about legitimacy. I just. And, and then as Brady points out, nobody from any other from the universe was really even invited. You know, it's like when we say Major League Baseball champions are world champions. It's like, well, well, there's only one other team from another country. So if there was no other. If nobody from Mars or Venus or. Or even Pluto shows up, are you. Can you really be the Miss of the whole Universe?

[C]

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Isabella, I said not even one alien, right?

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Not a single alien to speak of. Not even a star. You know, and so it's like, who, who, who are we to say that that's Miss Universe? But anyway, congrats to her. I guess some people have said that it was illegitimate because that her dad, who's in charge over there, God of Miss Universe. Well. Cause he's in charge of the universe. Or she. They are in charge of the universe.

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[D]

Thanksgiving Day football. Got a bunch of football on on Thursday. Packers at Lions at 1pm Eastern on Fox. Follow that straight up with Chiefs at Cowboys at 4:30pm Eastern on CBS. And then of course, Bengals at Ravens at 8:20pm Eastern on NBC. Football all day on Thursday. That's what we love.

[A]

We love it. What else we got?

[D]

If you're not a football family, you don't want to watch football. I've got an alternative option for you and that's Thanksgiving Day college hoops beginning at 11am Eastern. Richmond at Furman on ESPN2. Can follow that straight into Charlotte at Illinois State at 1:30pm Eastern on ESPN2. And then after you finish that game, number 18, North Carolina at number 17, Michigan State at 4:30pm eastern on CBS. And then finish your night, number 5 Duke against number 25 Arkansas at 8:00pm eastern on Cbs. Okay, you could take you to that one instead of football, Katie.

[A]

I'm going to, I'm going to pitch it to the fam and see what they say.

[D]

Richmond, Furman, good game.

[A]

I don't think they'll 11am Richmond Furman. I don't think they'll let me sit at the table if I say that we need to put on college basketball. But who knows, maybe they'll have a change of heart. What else?

[D]

What else we got arguably the biggest college football game of the season so far. Number one, Ohio State at number 18, Michigan. That'll be on Saturday at 12pm Eastern on Fox. Always a a huge game, this one. One of the biggest rivalries, if not the biggest rivalry in college football.

[A]

Okay, and do you have an update on the Ashes you were telling us about?

[D]

Yeah. Australia won by eight wickets in what was the shortest Ashes Test in 137 years. It only lasted two days.

[A]

I was gonna say. What was it?

[D]

Usually long. Usually these go five days. Well, you have five days to finish a Test test. Australia won in two days. It was incredible. Our guy, Mitchell Stark, who he brought up on the show a bunch of times, he finished with 10 wickets for the match, including 7 for 58 in the first inning. Phenomenal performance from Mitchell Stark, but could not believe it. I woke up on day two just to get a score update and see how much of the match was left and realized it was all over and I didn't have any other cricket to watch. I've been waiting a year and a half to watch cricket and two days into the first test and it was over. Incredible. Australia's too good. Good. Suck. Shoot. England.

[A]

How dare they? I like when Chris talks about cricket because it reminds me of how Isabella must feel when we talk about every other sport. Like when he says that, including A career best 7 of 58 in England's first whatever. I'm like, what is he talking about? When you say they've won by eight wickets, I go, is that like eight touchdowns or is that like eight goals or is that eight points? Points at no clue. Don't want to know. Please don't tell me. But this must be how Isabella feels when we talk about. There's days where we talk about football and she's like, he's. He was. What? Of what? For what? What are you guys talking about? 123 from 83 balls. No clue. Yeah, no clue with any.

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I used the word sack the other day, though.

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In what context?

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Which a quarterback was getting sacked.

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Yeah, nice.

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It was Jalen Hurts who did.

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And what happened? Did somebody go like. Was somebody surprised? Were they impressed?

[B]

No, I felt like I was the one in the room that actually knew so no one else was like. They're like, oh, okay. Yeah, cool.

[A]

Hell yeah. I love that I used the word sack the other day. Okay, this could go anyway, you know, Sack them. All right, you guys, that's it. That is it for Casuals. Thank you so much for tuning in on this holiday week as I run out the door because I gotta go to Framingham and If I wait 30 more minutes to leave the city, I'm not gonna get there till midn night because of how crazy it is getting out of New York. I hope you all have safe travels wherever you're going this Thanksgiving season and that you enjoy. Don't forget we will have a new episode for you. We've pre recorded it but that'll be up on Thursday so that if you've got to get away from your family or whatever you do on on Thanksgiving. Just a nice little break with us. And that Brady is the one that features the leads from the Hallmark movie, correct?

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Matthew and Holland? Yes, it is.

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