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Casuals with Katie Nolan
Holy Paige Bueckers, The Masters, and Is Ovechkin Hot? | with Rae Sanni
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Hello! It's the podcast that isn't afraid to still be on fleek in 2025. Today, Katie breaks down her most joyful weekend of sports since the time before times, then comedian Rae Sanni [12:33] stops by to talk March Madness, Paige Bueckers, Duke White Lotus memes, Jaylen Brown and angry gamblers, Pro Stars, hockey stars, Alexander Ovechkin and Juicy J, Chelsea Handler's hygiene reveals, why you might care about The Masters, Stephen A. Smith's current polling numbers, and Young Money Bill Belichick.
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Katie Nolan
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Brady
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Chris
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Ray Sani
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Chris
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Brady
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Chris
Bring it on.
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Katie Nolan
Hey, Isabella, did you hear that the Blue Jays signed Vlad Guerrero Jr. To an extension. $500 million for 14 years. Isabella, hello. Oh, she's out sick. Okay. Podcast. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the podcast that gets you caught up on everything happening in sports, but isn't, like, boring about it. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Isabella is out sitting sick today. Devastating. Or she's saying she's sick and she's actually just fielding offers from all across the media landscape as she has. She could be big timing us and it would be deserved. But we do have Brady and Chris here and we have a great guest. Ray Sonny, a friend of mine, very funny stand up comic and television writer will be joining us in just a little bit. As always, if you want to reach us, our email address is casuals@katienolangmail.com. our voicemail 646-800-010043. And on IG and TikTok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. Before we get into all the news, which is going to be like March Madness and Ovechkin breaking the record, we talk about Bill Belichick and Lil Wayne and Stephen A. Smith for president comes back up. The masters are this weekend. Before we get to all that, let me yap a bit. I wrote this out yesterday and normally I don't. And I was like, let me just get this on paper. And I don't really remember what I, what I wrote, but we're gonna read it together because, look, this weekend I had like a transformative sports experience. I had a very fun sports weekend and I just feel like it, it reaffirmed for me why I want this podcast to exist. I think we can all agree the world's kind of scary right now. Like, I don't. That's not political. I'm not trying to take any side I don't want. It's just like things are a little Unsure and scary. Right now, like, Internet sources are a mess. You used to be able to go and read something on the Internet and be like, that is true, or you could go like, that's obviously false. Now it's just sort of like. I mean, AI is getting better every day. We make jokes about people getting got by AI, but like, if we're. If we're honest with ourselves, it's like kind of improving as a technology at a rapid pace. It's very alarming. And then of course, the people in power are aware of how social media can be used to, like, affect people psychologically. And they're also in control of that social media, some of them, and incentivized by money to divide us. The economy's may be crashing. I don't understand it. I don't want to understand it, so please don't explain it to me. But I. I'm hearing a lot about it and so I feel like bad. I feel like a lot of bad is happening. I know a lot of people who are unemployed right now, so, like, unemployment is up. The world is just scary. Climate change. What happened with those drones? Did we ever find out what was going on with those drones? I feel like we started do and then that too much other stuff happened. Just basically, if you're zooming out and looking at life right now compared to life at other times that you've been alive, this feels like one of the scarier time. We have a. We've made a family, a family famous for singing about Costco food items and reviewing them. They have a child that travels with them that isn't part of their family. The Rizzler, you know, he's from a completely separate other family. Those are. Those are celebrities. It's not. That's not a sign of things going well. Meme coins. I've tried to understand meme coins quite a bit, and I've. The understanding I've come to is zero. I have no understanding of how you can just tweet something and then everybody can make a coin and you can. And then it doesn't. It's not worth anything. But you can make a bunch of money and then you can rug pull. There's a phrase I learned. And then a bunch of people lose their money, but you keep their. I don't understand how that's allowed at all. But my point is this weekend, amongst all of that, I felt joy, I found hope, I found community, wonderment, empathy. And it was all in sports. This is why this podcast should exist, because everybody needs access to this right now. There is. A couple years ago, there was this, like, debate about, like, keep, keep, stick to sports. Keep politics out of my sports. And that was, like, misinformed because it was people wanting athletes to not be people. It was basically wanting athletes to shut up and dribble. It was trying to strip people of their beliefs when they enter sports. And that's not possible. But what sports can provide and what I think is sort of like the. If I were to be generous to people who said I want politics out of my sports, what I think they're trying to get at is that, like, you want a place that isn't infected by all of it, and you're never going to get completely separate from it, but you can still find these little moments of joy. Pure joy, pure human spectacle in sports. It's unfolding live in front of us. Anything can happen at any moment. Ovechkin beats a record. A player makes an incredible play. There's these little moments that I think a lot of people that think they don't like sports or that don't, quote, unquote, know enough about sports right now. They must just be going through life getting ragdolled by everything happening in the news cycle. And I just want to make this space, except accessible to people who are like, where can I find a little spark of joy? Jose Ramirez, a very fun player on the Guardians, had a three home run game this weekend. That's cool. Three home runs in one game. The. The Rockies turned a triple play. You never see a triple play. We saw one. Very cool. Raphael Devers, who's been struggling in Boston with hitting. He's a DH now. I've talked about it a lot. Hit a home run on opening day at Fenway. It put a smile on my face in it reinvigorated. Well, what it did was it woke me up as a Red Sox fan. And we can get into this on a different day, but I really think Red Sox fan Katie is back. I hate to say it. I hate to say I'm all the way back in, but opening day fired me up. Back to back home runs. It was just an electric. I don't even know what. The final score ended up being an electric game. I'm. I think I'm all the way back in. We'll save that for another day. The Dodgers lost. That's joy right there. The Phillies beat the Dodgers. Loved that. Robles, the right fielder from the Mariners, had an insane catch that was then immediately devastating because he, like, broke his body in half. But watching Somebody sell out for a catch like that was like, man, what an athlete. Man, what an achievement. Paige Becker set a new record for tournament points. Sue Bird, my friend Sue Bird has got named to the hall of Fame. Like there are. We even got a story. We had a gender reveal story. Who's it? Bryson Stott on the Phillies. His friend had him do help him with his gender reveal. He wore a pink wristband during an at bat, revealing to his friends at home that like, oh, your baby's a girl. I'm not even a gender reveal person. Okay. But that was sweet. It was like a nice moment of community. We also got a, A, a sad moment, but an important moment. A story about Jaron Duran that's coming out of this new Netflix documentary that they did about the sock season last year. It's been revealed that in it Jaron Duran admits that he's attempted suicide. That he had a gun and the gun just didn't go off. An incredibly difficult thing to obviously go through, but share. In the world of sports, that has not always been been such a. A welcoming place to conversations about mental health. But watching people discuss it this week, I'm seeing growth in that space. People are being empathetic to struggles that other people are going to through. Apparently the amount of texts and phone calls that suicide helpline has received from teens has gone up since hearing this story from Duran. A number that you can reach out and get help from. So I just, I don't know. This weekend I was like, it was like the juxtaposition of this awesome feeling with like every time I would stop watching sports and go back to life was like, oh, God, oh my God. And then I could just kind of disappear back into this little sport. And I'm not saying use sports to ignore everything going on in the world. I think that's foolish. But I think a balanced diet has to have a little bit of joy and excitement and like pure, just, I don't know, human experience of happiness in it. And I think that it can be tough to find, especially if you're depressed at this current juncture. But it exists in sports and it's for everybody. And I hope that we can make this podcast a little bit, can make things, can make sports a little bit more accessible to everybody so that we can cheer up. Because again, things vague, things bad, feel bad, scary and bad. But sports, good, exciting, fun and for everybody.
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Chris
I get those goosebumps every time in.
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Katie Nolan
The Champions League quarterfinals on Paramount.
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Chris
Plus it's do or die, kill or be killed.
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Katie Nolan
Every decisive moment gives you goosebumps. Arsenal have been ruthless. I get those goosebumps every time. It's now or never. Survive and advance in the ultimate club soccer competition.
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Brady
Real Madrid are through to the quarterfinal.
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Katie Nolan
I get those goosebumps every time. The UEFA Champions League quarterfinals. Stream every match live exclusively on Paramount. Plus if you've been having your McDonald's sausage McMuffin with an iced coffee from.
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Katie Nolan
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Are you sad?
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Chris
No.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, me neither. I just. I wanted to leave space in case you were. Did you do a bracket this year?
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Chris
No, I don't. So I don't know anything about college ball. Really.
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Katie Nolan
Nobody does.
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Chris
But also, I'm scared of gambling because I have an addictive personality.
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Katie Nolan
Yes.
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Chris
And so then you know that if my bracket starts to do well, then I'm going to put more money on it, then I'm going to be watching the games all day, and then I'm not going to be a person for two, three weeks, and we can't afford that.
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Katie Nolan
It's a woman who knows herself. A woman who knows and understands and knows that she cannot be tempted to gamble.
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Chris
No, no.
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Katie Nolan
The more exciting tournament for me, the women's tournament, of course. UConn beat South Carolina. Blew him out. Surprising, I know. 82, 59 UConn over South Carolina. The defending champion, coached by Dawn Staley. That ends a nine year title drought for UConn. That sentence makes me feel old because I feel like UConn stays winning.
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Chris
Yeah, all the time.
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Katie Nolan
A nine year title drought.
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Chris
That number sounds alarming. But when I think about who's been, like, getting busy the last couple of years, I mean, I only recently just got back into the women's college basketball thing because, you know, I was. I'm black. I was rooting for Dawn Staley and the girls. You know, you just get in whenever there's like a. Or LSU even. Whenever there's a team of black women doing anything. I don't care what it is, I'm suddenly the biggest fan. So I got in there with like LSU and then, and then Dawn Staley. It was dope. So I was surprised. I was sad for Dawn. I even remember dawn did like a press conference before the game. Like, can we stop just talking about Paige? My girls are dope, too. And then I was like, nah, we gotta keep talking about Paige.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, she's so good.
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Chris
She's so good.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, not even the. I mean, she only had 17 points in the title game, but 477 tournament points throughout her career, which actually was enough to break the UConn tourney record held by Meyer Moore of 476. But the big star of this game was Az Fudge. She had 24 points. Most outstanding player. She's a great story because she's been hurt. She was hurt last year. She only played, I think, two games. She had to watch her team do it without her. The year, I think the two years before that, I think she was also hurt. So this was awesome to watch her come back, go off. And then now she's not going to the draft. She's staying for One more year. She had a conversation with Gino, the head coach of UConn, about it.
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Chris
You can be a super senior now.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Chris
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
And so she's gonna stick around, which has people wondering, do you think Gino does one more year with AZ and then leaves? Retires.
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Chris
Right. He's like 70 something. Right.
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Katie Nolan
He's getting up there. How old is Geno Brady? Let's guess. 76.
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Chris
Okay, I'm gonna go. Because he has this like, hard New York Italian thing. I don't even know if he's New York, but. So I'm going to think that he appears older but is younger than we think. So I'm going to go 69. 70.
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Brady
Gino Auriemma is a grizzled 71.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, so you were closer. You win. 71. Still 71. You cannot catch me working at 71.
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Chris
No. And to, like, have to stand all the time, that's crazy. And to be 71 still working, standing all the time and talking to 18 year olds. I don't know that I would want to do that ever. I wouldn't. No.
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Katie Nolan
At all.
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Chris
No. I don't want to talk to 18 year olds now.
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Katie Nolan
And just to have them constantly making fun of how old you are, just all the time.
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Chris
And they need you. He's their father figure. They need him. He has to be emotionally available. That's terrible.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. That would be a real end of an era, though, if he left.
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Chris
Oh, yeah, of course.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, what a. What a legacy. I guess we have to talk about the men's tournament. Florida beat Houston. I gotta say, this year, it really highlighted it for me. March Madness is all about that first weekend.
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Chris
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Katie Nolan
And then once that first weekend's over, everything peters out. It's kind of like March ish.
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Chris
It's March midness, March sadness, Okayness. It's March.
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Katie Nolan
I think it's March midness of just like, okay, I'll watch a game. Like there's nothing else on. But I have to say that break when they do the first weekend Thursday through Sunday, and then the Monday through Thursday that they're off, and then they come back on the Friday.
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Chris
I didn't even notice that that was a thing.
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Katie Nolan
That kills the momentum.
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Chris
Absolutely.
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Katie Nolan
For me. And I meant to look this up. So, Brady, you can help. Or maybe Chris even. I don't know. Do they go to class? Is that why they make them take the Monday? Do they go to class during the tournament? Like, is the. Is the mystique the reason that they can't just keep Doing the tournament, like on a Monday. Is it because, like, we're supposed to believe that they're going back to school and going to class?
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Chris
You would think, though, they would be doing remote classes now.
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Katie Nolan
Athletes, I would think they would just go. We're taking four weeks off. It's the tournament.
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Chris
It's the illusion.
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Katie Nolan
I know. But now, now that we've stopped with the student athlete of it all, I feel like just play the tournament in one big chunk so I don't lose interest. Think about me. Somebody think about me.
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Chris
We don't worry about their education. We worry about Katie's preferences.
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Katie Nolan
Do we think that they're getting an education?
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Chris
Some of them are, yeah. There's. There's a lot of kids, especially at the schools that are like Harvard, where they won't.
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Katie Nolan
They don't care if you're a student athlete at all.
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Chris
Exactly. And, and, and I found that. That a lot of these athletes are going back to school after they complete their professional careers.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Chris
So I think if you're one of those athletes, like, if you're a J.R. smith or somebody who plans to go back later, then.
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Katie Nolan
Then go to class.
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Chris
Then you go to class.
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Katie Nolan
Go to class. Don't. I'm not saying don't go to class. I'm saying if you're not gonna go to class, let's not pretend you're going to class so that we don't have basketball games.
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Chris
Okay?
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Katie Nolan
Let's just play the basketball game.
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Chris
So maybe the ones who don't wanna go to class should be playing Monday through Thursday. And then all the kids who do wanna be doctors later should go on Thursday.
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Katie Nolan
You see that? That's a proposal that's a little more controversial. Chris, do you have intel?
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Chris
Yeah.
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Producer Chris
In 2017, there was the story about Luke May from UNC. After hitting a buzzer beater in the Elite Eight to take the tie heels to the Final Four, he showed up to a Monday morning class, 8am after that Elite Eight game.
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Chris
What?
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Katie Nolan
How so they do. So they are going to school.
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Chris
What year was he? Because everybody knows you do not put an 8am class on your schedule. And certainly not a Monday one.
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Katie Nolan
That's so true. He's probably a freshman.
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Chris
Unless it's like a psych lab that you can't get out of.
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Katie Nolan
I had a 9am class and here's what I did my freshman year. So stupid.
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Chris
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
I thought, I don't want to do class. I've been sitting my whole life. I've gone to school in the morning and I stay at School all day and then school's over. What if I spread it out? What if I do a morning and a noon and that was the dumbest idea on earth. I didn't think through it.
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Chris
Oh, my God.
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Katie Nolan
I was in school all day.
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Producer Chris
He was a sophomore.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. Yeah, that's a. You should know better. Maybe it's one of those classes that, like, you can only take.
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Chris
Yeah, like. Like, it's the one, like, French language class where you're, like, on his level. Yeah, that's crazy. On a Monday. Horrendous. And if I, like, have a buzzer beater, like, you're supposed to just let me.
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Katie Nolan
I'm not gonna go to class for the rest of the year.
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Chris
Yeah, you're supposed to let me have that one.
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Katie Nolan
I'm gonna graduate with honors because of my buzzer beater.
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Chris
He's a sophomore. Cum laude.
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Katie Nolan
Let me out. I'm done. I'm done.
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Chris
I will say, though, I do feel bad for the Houston guys. Yeah, they were sobbing. They were sobbing. And seeing boys cry really does bother me.
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Katie Nolan
I don't like it. I want them to feel free to do it. Let's be clear. Men need to cry.
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Chris
I just. It makes me sad for them.
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Katie Nolan
I need to spin on it.
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Chris
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
I don't need to watch it. Yeah.
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Chris
Like, the camera's in this poor kid's face and he's just awful, sobbing. It feels terrible.
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Katie Nolan
Awful for them.
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Chris
And it was nice, I will say, as a Nigerian girl, it was nice to see Akima Lajuan just moving about. I'll do the Houston story. Just because he. My parents are obsessed with him. They're about his age. It's a Nigerian Muslim thing to be obsessed with. He's like, God. Yeah. So it was just nice to see him on TV again. He's got a cool, like, Nigerian demeanor.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Chris
Yeah, it was nice.
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Katie Nolan
Sick. I feel like the story of the men's tournament, at least that towards the end, here was Duke kind of blowing it, and that White Lotus meme that was floating around. Fellas, are you watching White Lotus?
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Chris
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
I'm not.
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Chris
Why?
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Katie Nolan
I don't know. I just didn't. What was I just watching? I was just watching something.
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Chris
Severance maybe.
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Katie Nolan
And so that was my thing.
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Chris
I wasn't watching Severance.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, really?
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Chris
Yeah. You know, I'm just not gonna pay for Apple tv.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's fair.
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Chris
I just feel strongly about that.
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Katie Nolan
Although there's that new one that I really think you would like that I've been hearing about the studio.
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Chris
Oh, yeah. I keep Hearing about it.
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Katie Nolan
I'll give you my login.
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Chris
Oh, thank you. I have a friend's login too. This is Principles.
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Katie Nolan
Have mine if you need it. But tell me about what, because all I've seen is a picture of the guy with the Duke shirt.
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Chris
All right.
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Katie Nolan
But I don't know the context.
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Chris
Okay, so spoiler alert. So there is a rich family from North Carolina. One of the kids is Tar Heel, and then the rest of them are Duke. And the father is a legacy Duke alum who is an investment banker. I think he definitely works in finance. And they're on a resort in Thailand. And he has just been indicted back home, or at least his business partner has. Has been caught for money laundering. And the business partner's about to sell him out. Like, they have a quick phone call, and so the entire season is him spiraling because he's too cowardly to tell his family that they're broke now and he's going to prison. And so he's contemplating suicide over and over and. And over again. And he even wants to kill his family because he knows they can't survive without money. Like, they're just so obsessed with wealth and image and all of that. So I think that meme is him in his Duke T shirt, like, staring out the window like, oh, shit, I blew it. My life is over. Our lives are over, and I might have to take us all out.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. So I was hoping the context would make it less applicable to Duke. Unfortunately, if you're a Duke and you see that, especially the timing of it around the tournament, you had to be like, come on, we're cursed. You're cursing us. This is gonna. This meme is gonna follow us.
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Chris
Absolutely. Especially when it's like, finance Nepo, baby. Insider trading. Yeah. It's all.
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Katie Nolan
It's like, very.
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Chris
It's very on the nose.
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Katie Nolan
Very on the nose for Duke. And Duke fans, well, they're having a hard time. So at least there's that. With everything going wrong in the world.
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Chris
At least there's that. I can enjoy that.
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Katie Nolan
The story of the tournament for me was a commercial.
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Chris
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
I don't know if you saw this commercial. It's not very visual, so audio listeners, don't worry. You're not really missing anything. We're gonna play it for you. Now. This is an NCAA psa, okay. That aired during the turn.
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Chris
Oh, dear. I'm nervous.
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Katie Nolan
There's losing, but then there's being the loser. Game time comes with enough pressure. Way too often, people are betting on sports losing and taking it out on the athletes. Only a loser will harass college athletes.
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Chris
After losing a bet.
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Katie Nolan
But it happens almost every day. Root for your team. Get crazy when the buzzer silence. But don't harass anyone because you lost the bet. It's time we draw the line and put an end to the abuse brought to you by the ncaa.
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Chris
Okay, on the one hand, it is a. It's a. It's a perfectly reasonable message, right? On the one hand, sure.
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Katie Nolan
Don't tweet at athletes when they cost you. Your parlay is basically the message.
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Chris
Yeah. Because it is crazy to be like a 45 year old man on your couch in like Minnesota. You tweeting at an 18 year old. You fucked up my parlay, you little bitch.
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Katie Nolan
It is crazy. It has been crazy. To be clear, fans have been like this for a while. We did a segment on always late when I was at ESPN of fans that would tweet at college kickers when.
- [25:21]
Chris
They would, they would actually do that.
- [25:22]
Katie Nolan
They would lose their mind. They would say things like, my grandmother could have made that kick. Or like, I could have made that kick. So we flew them out, tried to make them make the kick. One of them, we actually, he said, my mom could have made that kick. And we flew his mom out too, but she ended up being sick, so she couldn't do it. But it would have been fantastic. Tv but like, this has been happening in sports in a while, but now obviously with gambling being legal, it seems to be getting worse. Bad enough that they had to put out that AI slop of a.
- [25:50]
Chris
It's just a terrible.
- [25:51]
Katie Nolan
I mean, it's just terrible, truly. AI generated images of like people looking at their phones and it's. It felt to me like, remember when. Sorry to bring this up. Remember when Covid hit and we were all at home and you started to see those PSAs that were clearly made. They couldn't have people come in. So they were just like, they looked like PowerPoint presentations that were like, wear a mask, stay six feet apart. And they were very. They felt like it was like bleak. It felt like, oh, this is.
- [26:18]
Chris
We're not people anymore.
- [26:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, this is freaky. This just gave me that feeling of.
- [26:24]
Chris
Like, I don't, I don't know that. I don't know that it was effective in that way because it's like, I think it would be more effective to see an asshole being an asshole.
- [26:33]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [26:33]
Chris
And like have somebody that reminded you of yourself so that you would take the message away as opposed to these like dark gray, you know, random Things and random swear words and X's and.
- [26:44]
Katie Nolan
O's and, like, don't be a loser. It's like, well, I just lost 16 grand on a parlay. I am a loser.
- [26:52]
Chris
I did, in fact, lose.
- [26:53]
Katie Nolan
Now that I've lost, I'll go be loser. I'm gonna go be more loser. Yeah. It was a completely ineffective.
- [26:59]
Chris
Right. I. And the message is important, but so important. But also, here's the thing that I have been struggling with, though. I do think, and far be it for me to say that, you know, the NBA should dictate my vices. But I do think it's so weird that all of these sports leagues are embracing gambling. I do. Yeah.
- [27:21]
Katie Nolan
So my thing was, especially if you've.
- [27:22]
Chris
Gotta make a PSA like this.
- [27:24]
Katie Nolan
I know it does seem like it's like, barreling towards a cliff. All of it. My thing was, like, I didn't, like, when I started to see athletes and gambling. Gambling commercials.
- [27:33]
Chris
Yes.
- [27:33]
Katie Nolan
And I thought, like, well, that shouldn't be allowed. And then somebody explained it to me that, like, if the. As long as the league is allowed to profit off of the money being made, the players should also be allowed to profit. So, like, in that way, I get it. But I think I would go back and go, well, then the league shouldn't be allowed.
- [27:51]
Chris
Like, I honestly don't.
- [27:52]
Katie Nolan
I don't understand how it's possible that they can go. The official betting partner of the NBA. The NBA should not have a partner.
- [27:58]
Chris
I agree. I totally agree. It's so. It's so bizarre. And then you have to be like. And guys, don't be maniacs about it either. It's just like, okay, well, if you see the active harm that it's causing, whether it be, you know, people accosting athletes because they've lost money or even just, I don't know, the risk of. There's too many people working for an organization like the NFL for you to be absolutely sure nobody's doing bad things with Gamma.
- [28:25]
Katie Nolan
Like, I can't.
- [28:26]
Chris
How many people are in an. On an NFL. NFL team? I know.
- [28:30]
Katie Nolan
English NFLT A lot of ends on an NFL team. A lot. There's a lot. They've caught some. I believe they've caught some employees doing nefarious things.
- [28:41]
Chris
And wasn't there. Wasn't there just Michael Porter, jr's little brother? Yeah, like, you know, messing around. I just think it's too. I just think it's too dangerous if you want to keep the sport fair. You know, we could have a debate about that. Word, too. But I just think, you know, it's too tempting, I think, for everybody.
- [28:58]
Katie Nolan
It also reminded me there was a clip. I don't know if you saw this on the. I mean, I. I hate. There's so many podcasts now, and when you want to show a clip of one of them and you have to say the name of it. So Jaylen Brown was on the million dollars worth of game pod, and, you know. Rolls right off my tongue.
- [29:15]
Chris
And he. He said, wallow and Gilly.
- [29:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, exactly.
- [29:20]
Chris
If I do happen to just scroll.
- [29:22]
Ray Sani
Like the comments, be like you.
- [29:25]
Chris
Like, if I see you in the.
- [29:26]
Katie Nolan
Street, I'm.
- [29:31]
Chris
A point.
- [29:31]
Katie Nolan
That was their parlay when they had eight teams on it for 60 2005.
- [29:36]
Chris
And I'm gonna say this to the.
- [29:37]
Katie Nolan
Camera, if one of you parlay run.
- [29:39]
Chris
Up on me, you up. I'm telling you. Martial arts, they call parley gloves. Try it if you want to. I love this energy because. And it's also kind of why I like Russell Westbrook a lot, too, because these normal people keep thinking they could talk crazy to people paid millions of dollars a year to have the best bodies on the planet run up. Let's see what happens now. Jalen, I don't want you to get shot by one of these. Crazy.
- [30:10]
Katie Nolan
I was gonna say there is one wrinkle in that, which is a gun. And I just feel like at some point someone could just. Just have one of those.
- [30:18]
Chris
Yeah.
- [30:19]
Katie Nolan
And use it. Yeah. I just. I feel like, first of all, why do we know why he was doing that interview in gloves and a hat? That was like a real look. A real look he had.
- [30:28]
Chris
You know, I think Jalen is one of these, like, he's. He's one of your guys.
- [30:32]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [30:32]
Chris
You know him to be like a. You know, the type. The purposeful contrarian.
- [30:36]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [30:37]
Chris
The one who's, like, always going against type and common opinion, kind of what.
- [30:42]
Katie Nolan
We thought Kyrie was. And then Kyrie went a little. A little too far. He went a little too far. He went a little. But before that, he was like, oh. And then it was like, oh, okay, the earth isn't flat. We can't relitigate that.
- [30:55]
Chris
I do distinctly remember, also speaking of Kyrie, who was in the finals against the Celtics last year, I do remember Kyrie had, like, moccasin sneakers on because he's lost his Nike deal, so.
- [31:06]
Katie Nolan
That's very funny.
- [31:07]
Chris
But Jaylen. Yeah.
- [31:08]
Katie Nolan
Jaylin.
- [31:09]
Chris
Likes to be different, I find.
- [31:11]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [31:11]
Chris
I don't know if I'm charmed or, you know.
- [31:13]
Katie Nolan
Oh, well, see, I'm charmed, but I think it's because of the name on the front. I'll look past.
- [31:18]
Chris
I don't think he's my kind of guy.
- [31:21]
Katie Nolan
But I do feel like, first of all, I love when an athlete admits to scrolling through their mentions.
- [31:26]
Chris
Yeah, of course.
- [31:27]
Katie Nolan
Stop ruining that for us by saying things that are mean to them so they stop coming onto social media.
- [31:31]
Chris
Absolutely.
- [31:32]
Katie Nolan
But I also feel like, you know, social media right now is at its. I want to say worse.
- [31:38]
Chris
I would totally agree.
- [31:39]
Katie Nolan
It could probably get worse. I don't think it's ever been, as it's always been, abusive. I don't think it's as abusive as it's right now.
- [31:47]
Chris
Well, I think it depends on the platform. Right. Because I don't know that people are seeing that clip on Blue Sky BlueSKI.
- [31:56]
Katie Nolan
Feels like a work retreat.
- [31:57]
Chris
Yes.
- [31:58]
Katie Nolan
It's feels like LinkedIn Lite kind of.
- [32:00]
Chris
And Threads is like all of your bougie black aunties. Yeah, it's bougie black aunties talking nicely about things.
- [32:06]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [32:07]
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
- [32:07]
Katie Nolan
You know, that was actually a good sales pitch.
- [32:09]
Chris
Go for it. I love it.
- [32:11]
Katie Nolan
Turned me off from Threads is when they said once you sign up for it, you can't ever change it again. Delete it, or something like that.
- [32:17]
Chris
You would have to delete, I think, your Instagram and your Facebook.
- [32:20]
Katie Nolan
Well, I don't wanna do that.
- [32:21]
Chris
And also I was talking to a friend yesterday and she mentioned this, that like Twitter, when it was fun, you used to be able to be like, Katie Nolan's eyebrows. And that would be an account. You can't do that on Threads because it has to be associated with a meta account where they do care about your identity.
- [32:39]
Katie Nolan
What's wrong with my eyebrows?
- [32:40]
Chris
No, I was just looking for things.
- [32:42]
Katie Nolan
I promise I'm gonna think about those for the. I'm gonna go home, take my makeup off and start over as soon as this is done.
- [32:48]
Chris
No, no, no, no, no.
- [32:49]
Katie Nolan
Katie. I tried something new. I tried something new and it wasn't the move. And it's fine.
- [32:53]
Chris
No, no, Katie, your eyebrows are perfect. I was just looking at your face and I was like, okay, eyebrows. Katie has those.
- [33:00]
Katie Nolan
Clip it, clip it.
- [33:04]
Chris
Oh, my God, I'm the worst friend on the planet. Katie's eyebrows are beautif.
- [33:10]
Katie Nolan
Figure something out. I found a glue that I like that keeps them glued the way I like them. But then when I get warm as we are in the studio, they melt and then they fall and then I have these crazy looking eyebrows.
- [33:21]
Chris
Well, your eyebrows have not melted yet.
- [33:23]
Katie Nolan
Thank you.
- [33:23]
Chris
They look great.
- [33:24]
Katie Nolan
Thank you. Are they still on the fleek? Are we still. Are the kids still.
- [33:28]
Chris
No, the kids have left fleek behind. I think maybe 10 years ago.
- [33:32]
Katie Nolan
Damn, I'm almost 40. Let's move on. Speaking of old people, Alexander Ovechkin, we talked about this before. I asked you if you were a hockey fan and you were like, no, but I know about a record being broken, so. Alexander ovechkin scored his 894th goal of his career to tie Wayne Gretzky on Friday at home. And then he scored number 895 to set the new record on Sunday at the Islanders against, mind you, a goalie who he had never scored on before.
- [34:00]
Chris
Oh, really?
- [34:00]
Katie Nolan
So it's a fascinating little wrinkle.
- [34:02]
Chris
That's cool. That's weird that I didn't know that it was at the Islanders game, because I'm around. I'm here.
- [34:08]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Where are they now? They're not still Coliseum coleum, are they? I feel like they must have. I went to Hofstra, which was right next to the National Coliseum. I went to a lot of Islanders games. They were the first place where I saw the technology of you could have a little blimp inside that would fly around with your little.
- [34:25]
Chris
I did not know that this is a technology that exists.
- [34:27]
Katie Nolan
I'm fascinated by it. I would eat my little pretzel braid and look up at the remax blimp and watch it buzz around the inside. I thought it was the coolest thing on earth.
- [34:38]
Brady
The Islanders are at UBS arena in Elmont, New York, on the Long Island.
- [34:42]
Katie Nolan
So it's not in Hempstead anymore or.
- [34:44]
Brady
Union, wherever that they moved out of the Nassau Coliseum.
- [34:47]
Katie Nolan
Damn. Rip to those pretzel. Are there.
- [34:49]
Chris
Are there any other, like, Long island based sports teams? I can't think.
- [34:54]
Katie Nolan
No.
- [34:55]
Chris
Oh, it has to be.
- [34:55]
Katie Nolan
Unless you consider Queens, Long island, which unfortunately, folks, technically on the same island.
- [35:01]
Chris
So is Brooklyn, but we don't mention that.
- [35:03]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it feel. But Queens feels a little bit more.
- [35:06]
Chris
Yeah, it is. It's more suburban.
- [35:07]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [35:08]
Chris
I would would say that it's interesting that the whitest professional sport is the only team with a Long island team. Like the only league with a Long island team that I can think of.
- [35:17]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [35:17]
Chris
Because. Yeah. I don't know any folks who would drive to Long island to watch hockey.
- [35:22]
Katie Nolan
You got to take the. The Lear. Also. L R is the. Is the worst. Because you. It should be sayable.
- [35:28]
Chris
Right.
- [35:28]
Katie Nolan
But Lear is wrong.
- [35:30]
Chris
No, you're not supposed to Say Lir. You say L, I, R. Either way, it's too much.
- [35:35]
Katie Nolan
You should be able to say like, oh, it's the path. Okay, gotcha. Like, you say it like a Lear. You can't. Nobody says that.
- [35:41]
Chris
No, that sounds gross. Lir. I don't know. Probably has a similar amount of syllables as Long Island Railroad.
- [35:49]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it's like, it's not shortening anything. And also it's expensive as fuck.
- [35:53]
Chris
Yeah, it is. You know, I live in Bed Stuy, and there's a stop above ground outside of my window and it is very noisy at night. And I have lived in this apartment for like a year now. And so I've learned to forget it. But then every time I'm leaving somebody voice notes or I'm on the phone, I remember that there's this massive loud train full of drunk Long Islanders.
- [36:16]
Katie Nolan
Damn.
- [36:17]
Chris
Going by drinking.
- [36:18]
Katie Nolan
You can drink on them out of a paper bag. They'll let you do that. So Ovechkin, he's been kind of like a fun story.
- [36:26]
Chris
Is he hot? I don't know.
- [36:28]
Katie Nolan
No.
- [36:28]
Chris
Okay.
- [36:29]
Katie Nolan
He's for someone, I'm sure. I'm sorry to immediately say no. Know what I know of your type. Not your type.
- [36:36]
Chris
Okay.
- [36:37]
Katie Nolan
Okay. 39 years old. Started out this season. He broke his leg this season.
- [36:42]
Chris
Oh, wow.
- [36:43]
Katie Nolan
Came back.
- [36:43]
Chris
Do 39 year old bones heal?
- [36:45]
Katie Nolan
No, you wouldn't think this was also a record that, I mean, I'm. Where I come from a hockey family, grew up with hockey. This record has stood for 26 years. Yeah, my whole life, Gretzky. Yeah, but my whole life, it's been like, no one's going to ever do it.
- [37:00]
Chris
Okay.
- [37:00]
Katie Nolan
No one's going to.
- [37:01]
Chris
That why he looked like, upset, sad.
- [37:03]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, he gave his little, like, I'm happy for him. But you could tell by his facial expression, like, he wasn't thrilled about it.
- [37:11]
Chris
Well, like, Wayne Gretzky is like, you know, like, I. I don't even think I've ever seen a Wayne Gretzky game. But I think I know the teams he's played for and I think. Right, like the Oilers. Right. And then is there Pirates?
- [37:27]
Katie Nolan
No, but. But there could be.
- [37:29]
Chris
There could be.
- [37:30]
Katie Nolan
Perhaps maybe his Little League.
- [37:31]
Chris
Wait, there was a Canadian team he played for.
- [37:33]
Katie Nolan
The Oilers are a Canadian team.
- [37:34]
Chris
Okay, and then. Oh, Edmonton. Right.
- [37:36]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [37:36]
Chris
And then. But there was another team that he was a legend on. Wasn't there a second team?
- [37:41]
Katie Nolan
The Kings. I don't know his team.
- [37:42]
Chris
I just remember that cartoon.
- [37:45]
Brady
Two though, it was the Kings and then the Blues.
- [37:48]
Katie Nolan
The Blues.
- [37:49]
Chris
I remember.
- [37:49]
Producer Chris
And then the Rangers.
- [37:51]
Chris
The Rangers.
- [37:52]
Katie Nolan
Oh, how many seasons was that?
- [37:54]
Chris
Was it. Is it like. Did he. Did he do, like, a Shaq? Kind of like, when he got older, he was bouncing around from team to team.
- [38:02]
Brady
No, Gretzky never had, like, Shaq body years.
- [38:04]
Chris
Okay.
- [38:05]
Brady
He had three. Three seasons with the Rangers.
- [38:07]
Katie Nolan
Three seasons. I have memory hold his three seasons with the Rangers. Completely.
- [38:11]
Chris
Wow. So I just remember him because there was, when I was a kid, a cartoon called Pro Stars, and it was like, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Bo Jackson, and I can't remember who the fourth one was, but it was like, the greats of the time. And that's the only reason I, in my African household, had heard anything about hockey.
- [38:31]
Katie Nolan
As good a reason as any.
- [38:32]
Brady
Yeah, it was the three of them. Beau was both the baseball player and the football player.
- [38:36]
Chris
Yeah, there we go.
- [38:37]
Katie Nolan
That makes sense.
- [38:38]
Brady
They were not only elite athletes, they solved crimes.
- [38:40]
Chris
Yes, that was it.
- [38:41]
Katie Nolan
That makes sense.
- [38:42]
Chris
Pro Stars, which was basically. Yes. It's like. Wasn't it. No, no, no. Wasn't it, like, basically the Queen song? Never. The theme song.
- [38:54]
Brady
We Will Rock youk.
- [38:55]
Chris
Yeah, We Will Rock youk. And the Pro stars, like, theme song were basically the same thing. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah. But I like that cartoon because none of them sounded anything like the real athletes either, which is crazy. They got, like, voice actors, obviously.
- [39:09]
Katie Nolan
Did you know that he's made it. Ovechkin has made it. His song. A Juicy J song.
- [39:16]
Chris
Okay. What's. Okay. Is he Russian?
- [39:19]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [39:19]
Chris
Oh, boy, here we go.
- [39:20]
Katie Nolan
He's super Russian.
- [39:21]
Chris
Okay.
- [39:22]
Katie Nolan
But he's very into Bandsamaker dance.
- [39:24]
Chris
I actually. That might be my favorite Juicy J song. Yeah, it's a good one. I used to be a stripper, so, you know, I feel a connection to it. Yeah.
- [39:34]
Katie Nolan
Did I know that?
- [39:35]
Chris
I don't know. You're looking at me like you didn't.
- [39:37]
Katie Nolan
I know.
- [39:39]
Chris
Brief, brief stint, I think maybe, like, on and off for three years. I never made it a good money, so.
- [39:44]
Katie Nolan
Well, I mean, I. You have to immediately make a little bit of good money. Right? There's no, like.
- [39:50]
Chris
No, because it takes a lot of, like, charm and, like, which you have. Oh. Not the kind that sells ass to men.
- [39:58]
Katie Nolan
Which, you know, in hindsight, a charm you don't need to have.
- [40:02]
Chris
Yeah, I'm glad I don't have it.
- [40:04]
Katie Nolan
I don't have that.
- [40:05]
Chris
Although, you know, it'd be nice to get people to buy me stuff every so often.
- [40:08]
Katie Nolan
Fans would make her days if you.
- [40:10]
Chris
If anyone had it was more like band to would make me do this. Is that a dollar? Yeah. Why did he. Why does he pick that song? Why is he.
- [40:21]
Katie Nolan
I don't know if we know a reason. I just know that it is the first time most of the people around him have heard a juicy J song. You can tell by the way his wife. His very attractive wife. I mean, the way that she reacts when it plays. You're just like, oh, this is the one. You've heard the uncomfortable thing. As I was going through these stories, I literally wrote. I was like, I feel like Ray is gonna bring me back down to earth on this story because Ovechkin's been a fun rooting for him to break the record. And then he did. And then he has this. And then Putin came out and congratulated him.
- [40:56]
Chris
Oh, boy. Boy, oh, boy, boy.
- [40:58]
Katie Nolan
And, like, they basically said, like, we are so proud of him.
- [41:02]
Chris
And then were they holding a gun to his family back home and saying, you have to agree that this is an automatic enough for us to acknowledge.
- [41:10]
Katie Nolan
This is what's crazy. So in 2022, when he was asked about Ukraine, he said, please, no more war. And then he said, I'm. He's my president. And then he said, I'm not a politician. I'm an athlete, which is kind of giving Chapel Ron color. Daddy. When she said, I'm just an artist, by the way. Stop going on call her daddy. And saying wild stuff. Chelsea Handler saying she only washes her hot, hot spots.
- [41:35]
Chris
Wait, what? What?
- [41:37]
Katie Nolan
Chelsea Handler went on call her daddy.
- [41:38]
Chris
Oh, boy.
- [41:39]
Katie Nolan
And said, I believe this is the second interview Chelsea Handler has divulged this information. Okay, Sometimes when she showers, she only washes her hot spots.
- [41:47]
Chris
Okay, So I just want to know what she calls her hot spot.
- [41:50]
Katie Nolan
She said, there's four of them, and you know what they are.
- [41:53]
Chris
Okay? So I'm thinking, oh, but vagina, armpits, V. Yeah, peasants.
- [42:00]
Katie Nolan
But are you counting each armpit? Maybe under the beat?
- [42:03]
Chris
No.
- [42:03]
Katie Nolan
You can. I just was for the sake of us, not both screaming women's body parts. But I. But then what's Alex Cooper said? You know, same.
- [42:13]
Chris
What?
- [42:13]
Katie Nolan
And I was like, what are we doing?
- [42:15]
Chris
No, no.
- [42:16]
Katie Nolan
How do women right now currently have to exist in a world simultaneously where you'll scroll your TikTok feed and see people show you their everything shower with 55 steps right where you're like, that's too much. And then the next scroll down is like, two attractive, successful women talking about how they only they don't wash their legs.
- [42:36]
Chris
Okay, I'm gonna make this too deep for a second, but I've been thinking about this a lot. I think that feminism looks very different on not saying that Chelsea and Alex are calling themselves feminists, but I think feminism looks very different on black women versus white women. And I think because in this country, white women are the standard of beauty. They're desirable for them to sort of shake off the patriarchy. It's to purposely reject desirability versus black women who have never been afforded the luxury of being desirable to society in general. So we don't go out of our way to reject desirability in the same ways. So it's like, there's a thing about being a hot girl who's also gross. That's like a stick it to the man kind of thing, even if they don't mean it sincerely, where you're very rarely. And I think also because stereotypes of black people are that we're unclean and we're ratchet or whatever, so we don't do the, like, hey, I don't shower thing. It's not our thing.
- [43:37]
Katie Nolan
It does come up a lot. Don't you feel like white people are always out here admitting we don't wash our legs?
- [43:43]
Chris
Yeah, there was a not washing their legs? Wasn't it? Like, was it Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, like, really proud that they don't bathe their kids and stuff?
- [43:51]
Katie Nolan
And I will be my disgusting, honest self right now and say, I hate showering. I hate it. I loathe it.
- [43:58]
Chris
Are you depressed?
- [43:59]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [44:00]
Chris
Okay.
- [44:00]
Katie Nolan
And so that's part of the reason. The other part of the reason is that, like, I. It's very complicated. There's a lot of steps.
- [44:07]
Chris
There's a lot to do.
- [44:08]
Katie Nolan
It's a lot.
- [44:09]
Chris
Well, see, I like to shower only because I get my best standup writing in there.
- [44:14]
Katie Nolan
Oh, that's.
- [44:14]
Chris
So I talk to myself.
- [44:15]
Katie Nolan
Do you have, like, a shower? A place you can write stuff down?
- [44:18]
Chris
I just talk to myself.
- [44:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Yeah.
- [44:20]
Chris
And it's less embarrassing to talk to yourself in a place where your neighbors can't overhear you.
- [44:24]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, that makes sense. You know, Thin Wire, I try to make myself like it by, like, listening to music.
- [44:29]
Chris
Oh, yeah, that helps. I listen to a lot of podcasts in the shower as well.
- [44:32]
Katie Nolan
I can't deal with the echo of a podcast. I can't understand what anyone's saying, but I can listen to music.
- [44:36]
Chris
Oh, so you have, like, good stereo in your wireless.
- [44:42]
Katie Nolan
Famously from Dan's standup. I have a wireless shower Speaker.
- [44:46]
Chris
Okay, so that makes sense.
- [44:48]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [44:49]
Chris
I do not.
- [44:49]
Katie Nolan
You just do it on your phone.
- [44:50]
Chris
I just do it on my phone.
- [44:51]
Katie Nolan
Do you put your phone in a cup like you do at a hotel to make it.
- [44:53]
Chris
Wait, you're giving me all these things?
- [44:55]
Katie Nolan
You never done that?
- [44:56]
Chris
No, I literally just put it on the same thing.
- [44:59]
Katie Nolan
I go for broke in a hotel. If you don't have a speaker, you take the cup. This is a tip for all at home. You take the cups that they give you, and you turn it and you put the phone in it. And then for some reason, the way the sound hits the.
- [45:08]
Chris
Yeah, the acoustics, it lit. Okay. What kind of cup, though? Is it like a.
- [45:12]
Katie Nolan
Whatever they give you.
- [45:13]
Chris
Okay.
- [45:14]
Katie Nolan
Like a pipe, Ideally a glass one, I think.
- [45:16]
Chris
Oh, glass one. Okay, okay, okay.
- [45:17]
Katie Nolan
But you can do whatever. I've done it with an ice bucket. That was my ice bucket challenge. So. Yeah, the whole point of that tangent was that Ovechkin and Putin are, like, friends.
- [45:30]
Chris
Yeah.
- [45:30]
Katie Nolan
And then this political scientist, Sergei Markov, who's linked to the Kremlin, said, I loved this quote. Ovechkin has shown many times he's not afraid and not ashamed of being Russian, even when Russians have been bullied for being Russian.
- [45:44]
Chris
Oh, is that what was happening?
- [45:46]
Katie Nolan
Being bullied?
- [45:47]
Chris
Is that what was happening?
- [45:48]
Katie Nolan
Stop bullying Russians, you guys. They're. Jeez. Just Russian.
- [45:53]
Chris
So I have a question. I'm not saying that I'm shooting him bail, but I might be shooting him a little bail.
- [45:59]
Katie Nolan
What happens if he condemns it? What could he have possibly done? And I know that he's rich, of course he has to like Putin, but it's like, if he condemned Putin, what have we seen happens to people who do that?
- [46:12]
Chris
And even if he is a wealthy NHL star, like, he does have family back there. And I can't imagine Putin would not do something about them if he were to be vocal. This is not saying that he necessarily is. I'm just saying the stakes are different than for me to say something about Trump.
- [46:29]
Katie Nolan
I hate to also maybe potentially ruin Gretzky for you, but have you heard that he's loudly pro are Putin. He's pro. He's a big Trump fan.
- [46:38]
Chris
I'm actually not surprised by that. His daughter is a professional golf player, so those things link for me. That's that I just associate golf with Republican kids and, you know, so she got to get. She had to have learned it somewhere. Right?
- [46:53]
Katie Nolan
Fair enough. Speaking of which, the Masters.
- [46:56]
Brady
You want to back up one step? Oh, yeah. I just dropped a Text to the Capitals team dj. I can get you an answer on Juicy J and the Bantamaker.
- [47:05]
Chris
Wonderful.
- [47:06]
Katie Nolan
Oh, great. Thanks. You have a great connection. See the Capital team.
- [47:09]
Brady
I'm connected.
- [47:10]
Katie Nolan
DJ White guy.
- [47:13]
Brady
White as hell.
- [47:14]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hockey team dj.
- [47:18]
Brady
So Ovechkin, big Juicy J fan. The Capital's new off season acquisition was Jacob Chikrin, who had long hair and would wear hair bands for warm ups. And Ovechkin would only refer to him as bands of make her dance.
- [47:31]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [47:32]
Brady
Chickren then changed his goal song to it, surprised the team with it. And Ovechkin has been dancing after every time Chikrin scores a goal and now was on video with their top prospect last week singing Banza, make her dance at a bar with Ryan Leonard. The man's all in on Juicy J in his thick Russian accent.
- [47:52]
Katie Nolan
This is.
- [47:53]
Chris
You know what? I'm so glad I never played team sports because the inside jokes are too complicated and take too long.
- [48:01]
Katie Nolan
They've got a lot of layers.
- [48:02]
Chris
Like what? Like what in Alex Ovechkin's mind sees a guy tie his hair in a ponytail and he's like, hair band bands will make her dance. Juicy. There's too much. There's too much.
- [48:13]
Katie Nolan
My thing is that if you're. As a sports fan, if you don't know that you don't like the team and you're like, I don't know, man. I just. I just like to watch the games. I go outside. I like to watch. I watch. Call her daddy to learn about washing your bits. The Masters. Brady, I'm glad you're here. We. I. They're this weekend. The Masters.
- [48:34]
Chris
Okay. You could not have told me that.
- [48:36]
Katie Nolan
I know. And I. And I fear same. I just. The Masters is an old white, white thing the old whites love. Yeah, Brady, a tough task for you here, but if you could sell us on it, if you could get us. How could we care about the Masters?
- [48:59]
Chris
And don't say Tiger woods because that won't work on me, okay?
- [49:02]
Katie Nolan
He's hurting. He's out. You know, he's dating.
- [49:04]
Chris
Yeah, I know.
- [49:05]
Katie Nolan
But please respect their privacy at this time.
- [49:07]
Brady
If you could Loudly calling press conferences.
- [49:11]
Katie Nolan
To declare your own request, but please don't ask any questions about it. It. About this weird match.
- [49:15]
Chris
Come on, tiger. Mar you.
- [49:18]
Brady
5 reasons to maybe care about 5. 5. The first one is that this is the pinnacle of golf tournaments, but it is still one that anyone can get hot and win. Case in point, Englishman Danny Willett is just kind of a British guy. Won the Masters in 2016. Danny Willett.
- [49:42]
Katie Nolan
With Danny Willett, he got hot for.
- [49:44]
Brady
Four days and won the Masters in 2016. He has not finished in a top five in a major since then. He's missed the cut the next three Masters after that.
- [49:53]
Chris
Is that common in golf that you can be hot and then go cold or is consistency a thing as well?
- [49:58]
Brady
Like what you can win a tournament usually for the majors, the best players are all playing and the best players are all, you know, they're at their peak. These are the courses they've been scouting out.
- [50:10]
Chris
Okay, gotcha.
- [50:11]
Brady
They have the best strategy for this. It is hard, but it is still possible for somebody like Danny Willet to play out of his mind for four weeks. You get these Cinderella runs.
- [50:19]
Katie Nolan
Will it or won't it? You know, so the right use of.
- [50:25]
Brady
Sports gambling is throw five bucks on a guy like Danny Willet, cheer your ass off.
- [50:30]
Katie Nolan
You know, one, the one year I cared about the Masters or tried to cuz I was dating someone who did. His theory was if you pick, you pick somebody who's a long shot, you pick somebody who's middle of the pack and you pick somebody who's one of the favorites.
- [50:44]
Chris
Okay.
- [50:44]
Katie Nolan
And you put $5 or something on each of them. You don't. You just.
- [50:48]
Chris
Yeah.
- [50:49]
Katie Nolan
Root for them with your brain.
- [50:50]
Chris
No.
- [50:50]
Katie Nolan
No money for you. And then you get to like you. It's. You get invested because you're in the early rounds and then in the later rounds you still usually have like a guy that makes it. So that. That's a. Okay, that's one strategy. Brady, what else?
- [51:02]
Brady
Old guys.
- [51:03]
Katie Nolan
No.
- [51:06]
Brady
If you win the Masters, you are invited back to play every year that you want for the rest of your life.
- [51:12]
Katie Nolan
Kind of cool.
- [51:12]
Brady
So these are peak golfers. No, but Jack Nicklaus played forever. Arnold Palmer played forever. Nicklaus won his six Masters in 1986 at like 46 years old.
- [51:23]
Chris
Okay.
- [51:24]
Brady
Fred Couples is playing this year. Fred Couples is 65.
- [51:27]
Chris
Okay, so, but here's, here's the question though. See, when. When a guy like LeBron loses a step, he's going to leave, Kobe's going to leave. You know, it's not going to get sad. Is it gonna get sad with these men?
- [51:42]
Brady
I think if you invited LeBron back to play the All Star game at 60.
- [51:47]
Chris
Yeah, I'd watch it. I'd watch, I'd watch it. But then it would be like fun for the first two minutes and then it would get sassed.
- [51:54]
Katie Nolan
Listen, let's have a meal. Let's all just sit and have a meal. And some hard candies.
- [51:59]
Chris
Exactly. Like some Werther's original in the middle.
- [52:04]
Brady
The difference is that Fred Couples is not catching Wembignon his elbow.
- [52:10]
Katie Nolan
Golf is kind of what all of our dads retire to do anyway.
- [52:13]
Chris
Or, you know, our president leaves you. Oh, God. Leaves.
- [52:18]
Katie Nolan
Oh, the economy's plummeting. But I shot. I shot three under.
- [52:23]
Chris
Did you hear that? I won. Did you hear that? I won.
- [52:25]
Katie Nolan
Good. Oh, wait.
- [52:28]
Chris
Is winning the second round in a golf tournament worth bragging to a reporter about?
- [52:32]
Katie Nolan
Like.
- [52:33]
Chris
Like, is that a thing?
- [52:34]
Katie Nolan
Follow up question, Brady answer.
- [52:37]
Brady
Is it worth bragging to if I won a golf tournament? At a golf tournament I own, where everyone risks employment if they're not putting my name on the plaque?
- [52:47]
Chris
Probably not.
- [52:48]
Brady
Point number three.
- [52:49]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [52:50]
Brady
The young guys, I think are worth watching.
- [52:52]
Katie Nolan
How young?
- [52:53]
Brady
Down to 21, I think, is the youngest competitor. There are five amateurs, mostly kids.
- [53:00]
Katie Nolan
You have to say in golf. You have to say amateurs. That's how they say it.
- [53:03]
Chris
Oh, is that so?
- [53:04]
Katie Nolan
Yes. And I. They don't like it, but they get loud about it.
- [53:07]
Chris
Oh, excuse me.
- [53:08]
Katie Nolan
They get loud about it. It's amateur.
- [53:10]
Chris
Oh, wow. You better loudly mispronounce this word so that you.
- [53:15]
Brady
You just wait until you try to call somebody at Augusta a fan. They get very offensive.
- [53:20]
Katie Nolan
They don't have fans.
- [53:21]
Brady
Patrons.
- [53:22]
Chris
Patrons.
- [53:23]
Brady
They only let you refer to them as patrons.
- [53:25]
Chris
The sport sounds as expensive as it is. And I don't. I don't know that I like this. See, the thing about a 21 year old golfer is that your daddy had money. Like, that's it. That's all. Like, you are playing the sport that you could buy the best. That is very, like, frustrating to me. I don't know, it obviously takes skill, but I remember in college. This is embarrassing. I went to Princeton and there was a no big deal, you guys. I didn't finish. There was so smallest deal, but there was like, there was this really cool girl. Like, I really liked her, but she was on the golf team and I just couldn't reconcile that. So, like, something about her, I was like, mm, you're probably an asshole. Deep down inside. Why are you excellent at Golf at 19?
- [54:12]
Katie Nolan
19. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like you've been playing this for a long time, which means you've been in those circles for a long time, which some of it has to have gotten on you a little bit.
- [54:20]
Chris
You've got a little calling Tiger woods fried chicken, you know, on you. You know what I mean? I just, it just seems Weird.
- [54:28]
Katie Nolan
It gives you pause. It gives me pause, which I think is fair.
- [54:30]
Chris
And. And I just. I don't know that if I were a kid and I like, I understand what Tiger's dad was doing. It's similar to what Serena's dad was doing. So I get that. But I just can't imagine being a kid and like all the fun things you could go outside and do a skill game is the one that you choose to like, specialize in. That seems very strange. Yeah.
- [54:51]
Katie Nolan
You wanna run around. You wanna go for a long walk?
- [54:53]
Chris
Yes, exactly.
- [54:54]
Katie Nolan
Carrying a bag.
- [54:57]
Chris
With. Really interesting hike.
- [54:59]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it's wild. Like.
- [55:01]
Chris
Exactly.
- [55:03]
Katie Nolan
We're close. Keep trying.
- [55:04]
Brady
There's 5am so there's five amateurs.
- [55:07]
Katie Nolan
Thank you.
- [55:07]
Brady
In this tournament. Four of them are college kids. One of them is named Evan Beck. Evan Beck is an amateur golfer, not a professional Golfer. He's a 34 year old portfolio manager from Baltimore. He is just a dude. And he has qualified for the Masters by winning local tournaments and just making his way up to the US Amateur ranks competing in tournaments. But he is not a pro. He's just a dude.
- [55:31]
Katie Nolan
I kind of like Masters.
- [55:32]
Brady
He's gonna go back and be a portfolio manager in Baltimore.
- [55:36]
Katie Nolan
Portfolio manager. One of those. One of those titles that I'm like, they have all been portfolio managers. It's like, it feels like the, the. I have no idea what that does, but I think everybody does it. I don't know.
- [55:48]
Chris
I don't know much about Baltimore, but a person who chooses to go to Baltimore and watch work and then go play golf and then go back to Baltimore. He's a brave guy. He's a brave guy.
- [55:57]
Brady
You know, point number five might be the oldest white man thing about me that is. There is that Augusta and the Masters is the super bowl of groundskeeping.
- [56:07]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I can't.
- [56:07]
Brady
There is no lawn that is more well mowed. There are more. No, no Aelas that are more well kept. It is just a beautiful. You could just put the Masters on as a screensaver if you don't have to. People playing.
- [56:18]
Chris
I would.
- [56:19]
Katie Nolan
I could.
- [56:19]
Chris
It is.
- [56:20]
Katie Nolan
It's a screensaver. I don't need to watch it.
- [56:23]
Chris
I'm from the ghettos of Brooklyn, New York. You cannot convince me about no trees.
- [56:30]
Katie Nolan
Ray, don't you want to see the flyover with the perfectly manicured trap?
- [56:35]
Chris
I've ever seen a tree. Have I seen a water hazard?
- [56:38]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. When we say touch grass, we mean pavement. We go outside, we go outside. There's not really any grass out there for us. You'd have to look.
- [56:45]
Chris
Touch dirt.
- [56:46]
Katie Nolan
Touch pavement. Smoke grass, I think is mostly.
- [56:50]
Chris
That's it. Smoke the grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm. I, you know, I'm glad that there's somebody who cares about manicuring lawns.
- [56:58]
Katie Nolan
There's something for everybody.
- [57:00]
Chris
Yeah.
- [57:00]
Katie Nolan
You like it? I love it.
- [57:02]
Chris
Yes.
- [57:03]
Katie Nolan
Is there a favorite? Who's the favorite to win the Masters this weekend?
- [57:06]
Brady
Scotty Scheffler is. Is still the.
- [57:08]
Chris
Oh, I've heard that name same.
- [57:10]
Brady
Because he has been arrested at Augusta.
- [57:12]
Chris
Oh, yeah. That was just stories. I actually heard his name listening to a wrestling podcast because it happened, I like, last year. Right. In Kentucky. Was it in Kentucky? Georgia.
- [57:24]
Katie Nolan
It's in Georgia. It was at Augusta.
- [57:26]
Chris
Yeah.
- [57:27]
Brady
Yeah. Just trying to make a left turn into the parking lot at the wrong time with the wrong cop and pulling the wrong. Do you know who I am? I have to go win this thing.
- [57:35]
Katie Nolan
Well, then.
- [57:35]
Brady
Remember the cop getting arrested that morning and playing.
- [57:37]
Katie Nolan
Remember the cop was like, he. We. He dragged me. And you're like, no, he didn't drag you. It wasn't as dramatic as you're making it sound.
- [57:48]
Chris
Is he. Is. Is. Is Scotty, like, a likable guy?
- [57:52]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I think so, right?
- [57:53]
Brady
He's fine.
- [57:54]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Okay.
- [57:54]
Brady
It's not a very dynamic personality, a guy who plays golf.
- [58:00]
Chris
I'm very curious now. This is. I would be curious to hear about this. Is there, like, a bad boy of golf?
- [58:06]
Katie Nolan
Oh, it's. What's his face? The.
- [58:09]
Brady
Bryson dechambeau.
- [58:10]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, Bryson dechambeau.
- [58:11]
Chris
He was like, dechambeau sounds like a bad boy. Big.
- [58:14]
Katie Nolan
He's, like, muscly.
- [58:15]
Chris
Oh, okay.
- [58:16]
Brady
Burly.
- [58:16]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [58:17]
Chris
Okay.
- [58:17]
Katie Nolan
So he drives the ball instead of it being about.
- [58:21]
Chris
So it's a gritty. It's an uglier version of the game.
- [58:24]
Katie Nolan
Some would say. His critics would say. Right. That it's not as finesse.
- [58:29]
Chris
Okay.
- [58:30]
Brady
Yeah, It's.
- [58:31]
Chris
What about his personality? Like, is there a.
- [58:34]
Katie Nolan
It matches.
- [58:35]
Chris
Is there a Johnny McEnroe of Gollum Golf?
- [58:41]
Brady
Don't necessarily have a John McEnroe of golf. No. 1 that is full. Like the Shooter McGavin, Happy Gilmore Dynamic. Kind of spoiled us all.
- [58:49]
Chris
Okay, okay.
- [58:51]
Katie Nolan
But Happy Gilmore 2 coming out?
- [58:53]
Chris
No, there's no you. Yeah.
- [58:55]
Katie Nolan
I bet some of your friends are in it. It's like, all.
- [58:57]
Chris
Oh, really?
- [58:58]
Katie Nolan
Or, you know, friends. The way you comics are, where you're like, yeah. And then behind closed doors, you're like, no, that guy. Absolutely not.
- [59:07]
Chris
You could not have told me that there was a need for a happy gift and no shade.
- [59:11]
Katie Nolan
No shade.
- [59:12]
Chris
Just I. You know, I just didn't know that we needed that.
- [59:15]
Katie Nolan
Well, we. We're getting it whether we need it.
- [59:17]
Chris
Sometimes you get things you need.
- [59:19]
Brady
Patrick Cantlay, if anything. Maybe.
- [59:21]
Chris
Oh, I've heard that name too.
- [59:22]
Brady
The baddest boy. He makes a lot of enemies just because he plays extremely slow.
- [59:28]
Chris
Is he being a douchebag when he's doing.
- [59:30]
Katie Nolan
Reclaiming his time?
- [59:31]
Chris
Yeah.
- [59:31]
Brady
Just gonna take his time and everybody just sits like, waiting for him to finish the.
- [59:35]
Katie Nolan
Imagine growing up with the last name. Can't lay. That would.
- [59:39]
Chris
Sixth grade must have been terrible being like.
- [59:41]
Katie Nolan
Well, he can't lay.
- [59:42]
Chris
But what if he got smashed a lot, though?
- [59:45]
Katie Nolan
That'd be crazy. If he just overcorrected.
- [59:48]
Chris
Yeah.
- [59:51]
Katie Nolan
All right. I have so many other things I want to talk to you about, but I always do this and I run over, so I don't want to do. Maybe we should have you choose.
- [59:57]
Chris
Okay.
- [59:59]
Katie Nolan
Bill Belichick brought Lil Wayne to the Tar Heels spring practice. Pablo Torre commissioned a Rasmussen poll of 1,000 likely American voters about Stephen A. Smith's odds for president. Oh, And Fyre Festival 2 is coming back.
- [60:22]
Chris
That one does itself. I'm interested in the Stephen A. Smith for President poll.
- [60:26]
Katie Nolan
Okay, so Pablo Torres. They literally commissioned a poll of 1021 likely American voters. If the 2028. Here the. I'll just read the numbers. If the 2028 Democratic primary happened today.
- [60:39]
Chris
Is Stephen A. Smith even a Democrat?
- [60:41]
Katie Nolan
No, I'll tell you right now, as somebody who's interacted with him, no. He's very black conservative, but he's.
- [60:49]
Chris
He's black. So they said he's.
- [60:52]
Katie Nolan
I truly think the jersey you can't take off type of a situation. So if it was Kamala Harris and Stephen A. Smith for a Democratic primary, 45% would vote for Kamala and 24% for Stephen Smith.
- [61:08]
Chris
You're lying.
- [61:09]
Katie Nolan
This is again, of only 1021 voters.
- [61:11]
Chris
But there are these likely Democrats.
- [61:15]
Katie Nolan
The voters I don't know. Okay, if the Democratic primary was today and it was AOC and Stephen A. Smith, 32% AOC, 28% percent. Stephen A. Smith. Did that go up other. And yes. Oh, no. Down, down, down, down. KAMALA Harris was 45.
- [61:31]
Chris
No, I mean, go up for Stephen A.
- [61:33]
Katie Nolan
Yes. 4% more.
- [61:34]
Chris
That is disgusting.
- [61:35]
Katie Nolan
Other and not sure combined for 33%. So they still are both losing to the people that go like, I don't know. I'd probably opt out. Gavin Newsom and Stephen A. Smith. 31% for Newsom. 28% for Stephen A. Smith.
- [61:48]
Chris
Wow.
- [61:48]
Katie Nolan
If the presidential election was today and it was J.D. vance versus Stephen A. Smith.
- [61:54]
Chris
I'm voting for Stephen A. I choose.
- [61:57]
Katie Nolan
Okay, honestly, I'm out. Just let the record reflect I'm out. 38% Vance. 34% Stephen A. Smith. And then they did. What if he ran as an independent and it was Vance AOC and Stephen A. Smith.
- [62:12]
Chris
Oh boy.
- [62:13]
Katie Nolan
40% Vance, 37. 37% AOC, 11% Stephen A. Smith. So he, the pollster themselves said, based on what I see in these numbers, he should run.
- [62:26]
Chris
No, that's not a thing. That's not a thing. So when are we gonna learn that you can't just make people who talk loud on TV president? Cuz we've had, we've had several iterations of this and it's not working out. And Americans are just so malleable in the brain. I mean, this guy's not even, I don't want to say he's not good at what he does because he is good at what he does, but he's wrong a lot on the thing he's the expert at. So why would we suddenly like, put in office a man who can't admit that LeBron is the best and expect him to like, be in charge of everything, literally the entire world?
- [63:13]
Katie Nolan
I, I growing up, I fear making this compare. It's not even a comparison. Let me just say this sentence and then we'll get to the point. Growing up, I remember always hearing what a convincing speaker Hitler was. I remember going like, so what?
- [63:31]
Chris
Yeah.
- [63:31]
Katie Nolan
And now I realize why they told us that, because that really seems to matter to people.
- [63:38]
Chris
He just talks loud.
- [63:38]
Katie Nolan
You just talk and you talk entertainingly and loudly and repetition give off the air of confidence in that you know what you're talking about. So that even if someone goes, but that's wrong and that's wrong, and that's wrong and that's wrong and that's wrong. It, those people aren't, they're, the talking has stopped and they've moved on, they've gone back to their lives. No one's doing the follow up of the fact. And so I just think, Stephen, I said a long time ago that people, a lot of kids who go to school and think they want to be lawyers, what they really want is just to be Stephen A. Smith.
- [64:07]
Chris
Yeah.
- [64:08]
Katie Nolan
And I, and now I'm like, like.
- [64:10]
Chris
Feeling like, well, Stephen A. Smith wants to be.
- [64:15]
Katie Nolan
It would be a huge mistake.
- [64:16]
Chris
It would be the worst mistake.
- [64:17]
Katie Nolan
It would be a huge mistake.
- [64:19]
Chris
So one I think two, the one thing that I think is really anxiety inducing about that for me is the presumption that he would be liberal because he's black, because he has very Fox News views. He's on Fox News all the time. He's really good friends with what's his name. Name. The main one.
- [64:38]
Katie Nolan
Oh, Sean Hannity.
- [64:39]
Chris
Yeah, there we go. So, like, you know, he even said that he would. He would vote for Nikki Haley or so he said something like this. So this presumption that he's liberal or that he has progressive views. He's. He's very anti black sometimes. I don't mean to get this. My views, not Katie's, but he's very black. Anti black sometimes on just discussing sports. So I would not trust him. Him with race relations. He's not a Democrat.
- [65:05]
Katie Nolan
He's not a Democrat to say he's not a Democrat.
- [65:06]
Chris
No, he's not at all. And. And even he was lamenting having voted for Kamala because he felt cheated after he went. He was making rounds doing this, which I think is. Is not. I don't know. I any. And I'm nervous about any man who likes to bully and bluster. But the thing that I'm confused about with this poll.
- [65:25]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [65:26]
Chris
Is I would think that after the back and forth with LeBron, he would have lost some of his sheen.
- [65:33]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [65:33]
Chris
He looked really lame in that.
- [65:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. That's it. Was that a. I agree. I don't feel like that's a unanimous opinion. I feel like I saw people thinking.
- [65:45]
Chris
He handled LeBron, liking that he got messy.
- [65:49]
Katie Nolan
The Internet. Here's the thing. The Internet being bots now.
- [65:53]
Chris
Okay.
- [65:53]
Katie Nolan
Makes me immediately go, this probably isn't true. Like, I used. I felt like I used to be able to take a temperature of the public opinion on something. Yeah.
- [66:02]
Chris
I would go to Twitter.
- [66:03]
Katie Nolan
Varied and nuanced. But you could go like, okay, it feels like most people are thinking this. And now you're just like, it feels like most people are thinking this and this feels wrong.
- [66:11]
Chris
Yeah.
- [66:12]
Katie Nolan
So are these bots? Are this. Is this amplified by the fact that you get making. Make money off of your tweets?
- [66:18]
Chris
Exactly.
- [66:18]
Katie Nolan
The most controversial tweets.
- [66:20]
Chris
And then when you go to Reddit, it's siloed in different communities, so you never get a sense. But I thought, I don't know. He looked like a dweeb to me. Yeah.
- [66:27]
Katie Nolan
He seemed DY to me as well.
- [66:29]
Chris
Like. Like, why are you arguing with LeBron? And. And also, see, Trump's whole thing is that he done Back down. You know, he's a big, strong guy like we saw on live TV. LeBron James son, Stephen A. Smith, like I would think. He looks like a soft guy now.
- [66:45]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Sunned him so hard, he's on the Lakers.
- [66:47]
Chris
Hey, hey, that's good, Katie. I like that. I take back my previous boo. I give you two. Cheers. Yes.
- [66:57]
Katie Nolan
I'm throwing money at you.
- [66:58]
Chris
Van's makeup dance.
- [67:01]
Katie Nolan
All right, so we won't talk about Bill Belichick bringing Lil Wayne to spring practice.
- [67:06]
Chris
My theory is he just doesn't know how to talk to black kids, so he has to bring in somebody he thinks they like. I just think he doesn't know that Lil Wayne is like, I don't know, 43. So I don't know. That's the guy he should have brought in like Sexyy Red or somebody like this. Boston. No, no. Boston Richie just beat a woman. Oh, Boss Mandelo. Metro Boomin. 21 Savage. Lil Wayne.
- [67:34]
Katie Nolan
Because you have a crush on.
- [67:35]
Chris
Getting out of here with that. That's the thing. That's why it's so shocking that he's fine. Cuz he lays low. Future's the one always in the front of the pictures and stuff. And then, and then metro booming. I just saw a picture. I saw a video of him DJing on Tik to said, How did we not know this?
- [67:55]
Katie Nolan
How did you get away with this for this long?
- [67:58]
Chris
Yeah.
- [67:59]
Katie Nolan
Bill Belichick and his 24 year old girlfriend showed rapper Lil Wayne the ropes in Chapel Hill. This is from the New York Post. So I guess take it with a grain of salt. Where the trio posed for a photo and spent time together at the indoor UNC practice facility.
- [68:11]
Chris
Aren't they friends?
- [68:12]
Katie Nolan
Captioning her Instagram post, quote, I didn't realize this was a bucket list item until I did. Which, no offense, and you're 24, so you have a lot to learn, but that's not how bucket lists work. The whole point is it's a list of things you want to do before you die so you don't get to do something and go, I didn't even realize I wanted to do this before I die, but I did it.
- [68:31]
Chris
But she's probably heard a lot of the term bucket list because her husband.
- [68:34]
Katie Nolan
Because he's on his way out. Oh, no. She's like helping him format his on Microsoft Word.
- [68:41]
Chris
But also, I think from my understanding, Bill Belichick and Lil Wayne are good homies.
- [68:46]
Katie Nolan
I think Lil Wayne's friends with a lot of people in sports. Skip Bayless.
- [68:50]
Chris
He's another weirdly like conservative rapper.
- [68:55]
Katie Nolan
They have to do something with the rich when they get rich.
- [68:57]
Chris
When they get rich.
- [68:58]
Katie Nolan
The money is very.
- [68:58]
Chris
Yeah, so I'm like. Of all the sports personalities to get super tight with, Skip Bayless seems like the oddest one to me. But he, I mean, do you remember when he would be on ESPN like every day, didn't he do like the first tape for himself first? He did the.
- [69:12]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, the. What was the, what's the Fox Sports first take? What was it called? First Things. No, that's Nick. Yeah, that's Nick Wright. But the Undisputed.
- [69:25]
Chris
Undisputed.
- [69:26]
Katie Nolan
Undisputed theme song. Hudson stood beside the 42 year old rapper in the Tar Heels. New football coach, 72. So that's a 24 year old girlfriend, a 42 year old rapper and 72 year old Bill Belichick.
- [69:40]
Chris
Genuine question. Do you think, like, and I'm genuinely asking because I've never been around rich old men for that long, you think I have? I don't know.
- [69:49]
Katie Nolan
What does that mean?
- [69:49]
Chris
I know I just read. I don't know. You worked in sports. You know, they're around. But like, are his peers laughing at him? Like when he walks into the, the, the facility with this little girl and he means for us to take him seriously? Are there people snickering like, I know he's the Bill Belichick, but like even still, like, I would laugh in your face if you were like, I'm 84 and this is my fiance and she's younger than my younger sister. I'm laughing at you.
- [70:21]
Katie Nolan
He's younger than his daughter by a lot.
- [70:23]
Chris
Serious.
- [70:24]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Here's my thing, and let me preface this by saying I'm depressed and I've all but given up. Okay. I have all but it's like I'm holding on by a thread. I think that I'm at the point where I'm like, well, that's, they're all, they all want that. Like when you, when I make fun of like Bill Belichick and his 24 year old girlfriend, they're like, that's aspirational.
- [70:45]
Chris
That's crazy.
- [70:46]
Katie Nolan
And I'm like, that's. But don't you want somebody you can talk.
- [70:49]
Chris
No, they don't. They don't. They don't even want women that talk back, even if they are age appropriate.
- [70:55]
Katie Nolan
They're just, they make very convincing dolls. Now you could just get one of those.
- [70:59]
Chris
I'm, I'm just. And like, maybe it's because my mom is like really involved in my life, my mom would not let me date. She would find a way to keep me from dating a 70 something year old man. If I were 24, she would be like, in my life.
- [71:13]
Katie Nolan
Even if he was like, I will take care of your entire family for the rest of.
- [71:16]
Chris
My mom would not have it. And. And I'm actually surprised more often that.
- [71:20]
Katie Nolan
Parents don't interfere with their, like, they like it.
- [71:24]
Chris
They let their.
- [71:24]
Katie Nolan
A lot of parents, usually the rapper.
- [71:26]
Chris
Broker, it almost the rapper Boston Richie, like I was just talking about. He's his girlfriend that he just assaulted. Apparently he got arrested for. I didn't. I'm not saying things that are unfounded. She was. She's 19 right now. He's 27. She'd been dating him since high school with her mom's permit. And you'd be surprised by how they.
- [71:44]
Katie Nolan
Wouldn'T even let me go on dates. Not that anybody was really asking back then, but my parents, I remember being embarrassed. They used to make the person picking me up for the date come to the front door and like ring the doorbell. And I remember that, like, being a deal breaker for the two men. Boys who might have been interested, but.
- [72:02]
Chris
Not even like, just economically speaking. Like, okay, fine, hypergamy. You want your daughter to have a good life. Okay. But I'm talking about the psychological effects of being like, not even at a quarter life crisis. And you're dating a person who has lived and lived everything and has so much power over you in terms of that dynamic. And like, and like, what, what are you supposed to do? And like, if your husband dies and you're only 30, like, what is that like, I mean, this is crazy.
- [72:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [72:36]
Chris
Sorry. I know she's. She's probably having the time of her life. I just. I just find that really disappointing.
- [72:42]
Katie Nolan
She's very involved. She's on the emails. They're ccing her on emails. At least we have confirmed that she is cc'd. Bill has asked for her to be cc'd on email.
- [72:53]
Chris
Oh, social media.
- [72:54]
Katie Nolan
So I think she runs. We think he runs. She runs the social media account. She's making him more like, you know, because Bill belgic. Before this, we knew nothing. He was like, never letting us into his personal life.
- [73:06]
Chris
But I liked it that way.
- [73:07]
Katie Nolan
Me too. It made it a lot easier to go grateful football coach. I don't know about the rest. And now the more I learn about the rest, the more I guess I'm happy he's not my football coach.
- [73:16]
Chris
That reminds me of the Eddie Murphy joke from Raw where He's talking about how the. How the wife who doesn't make $100 million gets a side job to feel like she's contributing. So she makes $70 at the boutique, so now we're worth $100 million $70. So that's what her being cc'd on the emails feels like to me. Her $70.
- [73:43]
Katie Nolan
I just hope that they're all happy. I hope they have what they need in each other. I hope that love is what is all around. I hope they're just holding hands and skipping and laughing at all of us going off. Only they knew how rich and deep this love runs. Oh, Bill, if only they knew what a generous lover you were.
- [74:06]
Chris
You deserve to have good sex when you're 24.
- [74:09]
Katie Nolan
Have it now, Jordan. Have it now. Yeah.
- [74:12]
Chris
Do you think he lets her have her fun on the side?
- [74:15]
Katie Nolan
No, but I don't know. But I don't know. But I would say no.
- [74:18]
Chris
Yeah, I would imagine he doesn't want to humiliate. He doesn't want to be humiliated.
- [74:22]
Katie Nolan
I mean, if he doesn't want to be humiliated, he should not dress up as a fisherman and pose with her as a mermaid on a beach. He should stop doing yoga with her on the beach and letting us all see the pictures. That is crazy. It's like watching a guy have to go through the motions that you're like, damn, that's not me.
- [74:39]
Chris
That's crazy.
- [74:40]
Katie Nolan
I would have bailed at that. At that request.
- [74:42]
Chris
Can you imagine being 70 something and pleasing your 24 year old girlfriend with Instagram photos? That is an absurdity.
- [74:52]
Katie Nolan
Hopefully that's all she has to do. Oh my gosh, Raisani, I have to let you go. I could talk to you for another. I have so much I could.
- [74:59]
Chris
No, no, no, it's okay.
- [75:00]
Katie Nolan
Thank you for, for coming.
- [75:01]
Chris
I had fun.
- [75:01]
Katie Nolan
Anybody who wants to find you, where.
- [75:03]
Chris
Should they look for you on Instagram @raisoni87. Don't tell anyone. I'm back on Twitter. So it's. I'm not. I never left.
- [75:10]
Katie Nolan
But I'm trying to leave.
- [75:11]
Chris
I'm trying to leave, but there's too much Real Housewives stuff to talk about and I'm obsessed with that stuff. Raisoni on Twitter, on threads. I think I'm raisoni87 and I have a TikTok, but I'll never make a video. So just follow me there to see me in the comments when I'm cussing somebody out.
- [75:29]
Katie Nolan
And if you're in New York City, come watch her do stand up. She's all over.
- [75:32]
Chris
I'm around. Yeah. It'll be fun.
- [75:33]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I'm getting happy to see you back up there.
- [75:35]
Chris
I know. I'm having fun. It feels good. It feels good. And, you know, it's scratching that, like, middle child, narcissist daddy itch.
- [75:42]
Katie Nolan
So I love that we all have a way to associate it with our identity where I'm like, I'm the baby of the family, so I've got that narcissist itch. The middle child has the. We all have it. Thank you for being here.
- [75:52]
Chris
Thanks.
- [75:52]
Katie Nolan
Really.
- [75:53]
Chris
I've had a good time.
- [75:54]
Katie Nolan
This is great.
- [75:54]
Chris
Great, great, great, great.
- [75:59]
Katie Nolan
Okay. And now since it is Tuesday, we have to let you know what you can watch. If you wanted to watch some sports this week that's brought to us by our fearless producer, Chris. Chris, what do we got this week?
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Producer Chris
The first is the NBA matchup between the Lakers and the Thunder. That is on tonight at 8pm Eastern. You can watch that game on FUBO or NBA League Pass. The Thunder had the best record in the league at the moment. We'll probably finish off the regular season with the best record in the league. But Shay Gilders Alexander over the weekend just passed Michael Jordan with his 70th consecutive 20 point game. Anytime that a player can pass Michael Jordan for some sort of scoring feat, I think it's worth highlighting. And Shay's been on a tear this season and he's probably the front front runner for the mvp. So if you haven't had a chance to check out Shay Gil just Alexander this season so far. Far a good opportunity is to watch him against LeBron and against Luca. Again, that's tonight at 8:00pm Eastern.
- [76:53]
Katie Nolan
You know, sometimes when people are talking about Kevin Durant and they call him kd, it like triggers my brain to think that they're saying, Katie and I like look up and then I'm like, oh, they're talking about Katie. I wonder if Shane Gillis has that with Shay Gilgis Alexander, like, I wonder if he hears it and goes like, oh, they're not talking about me.
- [77:08]
Brady
I confuse the two of them all the time.
- [77:10]
Katie Nolan
They look a lot alike. What else, Chris?
- [77:13]
Producer Chris
The women's ice hockey world championship champs start this week and USA play against Finland on Wednesday at 9am Eastern. You can watch that game on NHL Network. So you got some morning beers to crack open for Papa Dog. Women's ice hockey world champs. Yeah, exactly. So Team USA will be will compete in group A alongside Canada, Czech, Finland and Switzerland.
- [77:38]
Katie Nolan
It's Czechia Chris, come on now. All right.
- [77:44]
Producer Chris
My apologies to all the kitchens.
- [77:45]
Katie Nolan
They said it's okay. All right, 9am Wednesday. We got to commit. So I'll see you guys there. And then what else?
- [77:52]
Producer Chris
Got another hockey one to round us out. The men's NCAA Frozen Four. What do you. What do you call it? Not tip off. What do you call the face off?
- [78:03]
Katie Nolan
Puck drop. Face off. I don't know.
- [78:05]
Producer Chris
The puck drop.
- [78:06]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [78:06]
Producer Chris
Puck drops. Puck drops. On April 10th, we got Western Michigan versus Denver at 5:00pm Eastern. That game's on ESPN. And then you've got Boston University versus Penn State at 8:30pm Also on ESPN too. And then the championship game is on April 12th at 7:30pm On ESPN too. So if. If you want to start watching some, some college hockey or if you've been watching all season, that is when you should be watching. I will be checking it out. I haven't watched so far. College hockey.
- [78:35]
Katie Nolan
College hockey.
- [78:36]
Producer Chris
Let's go.
- [78:36]
Katie Nolan
Bu. Go Bu. Go Terriers. And then not to over hockey, you guys, but I did want to say I looked it up. There is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny slim chance that the Columbus Blue Jackets make it into the postseason. I'm pulling for them because Johnny Hockey at the beginning of this year, we tragically lost him and his brother. His. I don't know if you saw this. His wife just had the baby. It's a very. But it's. I was really hoping that the Blue Jackets could do this for him. It was supposed to be the. The sort of topic of focus during Four nations and that got sort sort of over trumped. And so I was really hoping that this would be a big year for the Blue Jackets. There a lot would have to go wrong for other teams and I think they would have to completely win out. So again, very, very slim chance. But I think if we all really hope for it and like set our hearts on it, maybe the good energy will carry them into the playoffs. They play tonight at 7pm against the Senators. So it's possible. You're saying there's a chance. So let's root for the Blue Jay Jackets. That's it, folks. That's a podcast. It was a fun one today. Thank you for listening. If you want to reach out to us with any sort of questions or comments, you can do that. Email Casuals with Katie nolan gmail.com Our voicemail is 646-801-0043. On IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. Yeah, we love you. We mean it. We'll see you on Thursday. Bye.
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