Lane Kiffin, Three Six Mafia, and the NFL Contenders as Christmas Songs

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan — Episode Summary

Episode: Lane Kiffin, Three Six Mafia, and the NFL Contenders as Christmas Songs
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan (SiriusXM)

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Overview

This episode of Casuals with Katie Nolan delivers a festive, irreverent blend of sports banter, pop culture, and off-the-wall analogies. The team digs into one of college football's juiciest offseason stories—Lane Kiffin’s controversial move, scrutinized through a tongue-in-cheek “hoe vs. not-a-hoe” debate. The squad also matches NFL playoff contenders to Christmas songs, delivers chef and holiday anecdotes, and recaps Thanksgiving football chaos—complete with crabs, turkey arm-gauntlets, and notable halftime show debates.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Pod Squad Check-in & Holiday Recap

[02:12–07:40]

• Cast: Katie (host), Isabella (sports newbie), Chris (editor), Brady (producer & stats guy)
• The team exchanges Thanksgiving stories: Katie excels at "corn casserole," Isabella confesses to skipping football in favor of Austin Powers, and Chris and Brady recount their family traditions.
• Humorous riffing about feeling obligated to bring dishes to gatherings: "Any recipe that involves two different types of canned corn cannot possibly be something that you need to write a whole ode to me about." — Katie [05:57]
  • Isabella notes how nice it is to "just show up" and enjoy a cocktail while others do the work.
• Sports-watching habits on Thanksgiving are debated, with Katie noting, "Famous Thanksgiving movie, Austin Powers." [07:05]
• The squad laments college basketball’s lack of mainstream Turkey Day appeal.

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2. Lane Kiffin Drama: Hoe or Not-a-Hoe?

[10:18–34:20]

The Move That Sparked Outrage

• Lane Kiffin leaves Ole Miss, where he's led a successful season, to accept the LSU job—before the playoff, sparking controversy.
  • "He has the opportunity to win a national championship in front of him, but has to do it now because of that January 2nd date." — Brady [11:45]

Explaining the Timing

• Key factor: the NCAA's transfer portal window (opens Jan 2), making it essential for programs to have a new head coach in place early for recruiting.

The Kiffin "Hoe Review"

• Katie frames Kiffin’s coaching moves as a retrospective of “hoe” behavior, inspired by a Three Six Mafia lyric cited by podcaster Ben Garrett: "You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Hoes don't act right." [15:05]
• The group defines "hoe" loosely as a selfish, commitment-phobic, showy figure who repeatedly bounces for self-serving reasons in relationships (or, here, coaching jobs) [18:06].

Lane Kiffin’s Greatest (or Most Heinous) Hits

• Raiders: Hired young, fired by Al Davis in a dramatic news conference complete with an overhead projector (funny audio clip included). Called “lazy” and “untruthful” by Davis; first question after firing: "Are you going to pay me?" [22:42]
  • "That's ho behavior." — Katie [22:51]
• Tennessee: Left after a single season for USC, despite signing a 6-year deal—students rioted and set fires. [26:28]
  • "Does that feel like hoe behavior?" — Katie
  • "Yeah, I don't like that." — Isabella [25:34]
• USC: Fired midseason—famously left at the airport at 3 a.m. by the team [27:52]
  • "You would not do to somebody who wasn't kind of being a hoe..." — Katie [28:32]
• Alabama/FAU/Ole Miss: Multiple incidents of juggling commitments, late exits, and prioritizing new deals over loyalty.

Verdict

• "Nah, he's a hoe. Damn, that's messed up. Ho Miss." — Isabella [30:33]
• Kiffin’s penchant for drama and making everything about himself on social media is also critiqued [31:05]:
  • "He turned what could have been an email... into an entire birthday week." — Brady
• Katie sums it up: “He said Ole Miss really changed him... then he just kind of did the same thing.” [32:25]
• Final straw: anecdote of Kiffin's rude behavior on a talk-show interview—a linguistic slight, quickly cementing his "hoe" status.

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3. Thanksgiving NFL Recap: Good, Bad, & Weird

[36:57–46:35]

Game Highlights

• Packers beat the Lions; Cowboys beat the Chiefs; Bengals game discussed later.
  • “Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson proceeded to pick up the entire turkey by shoving his fist into it and gnawing away.” — Katie [37:44]
  • "It was aggressive and terrifying." — Brady
  • "Eco-friendly. Because your napkin could be the one that causes global warming…” — Isabella [38:06]
• Joe Burrow, perplexed by a crab at the postgame meal, requires basic crab-eating instruction from sideline reporter Melissa Stark.
  • "Why are they the dumbest at the simplest things?" — Katie [44:37]

Halftime Shows & Family Hijinks

• Eminem and Jack White’s Detroit halftime show gets the millennial un-mute: “This was on mute... as soon as Eminem came out, we were scrambling for a remote.” — Katie [39:55]
• Brief digressions about movie posters, 90s nostalgia, and an aunt’s spectacular fall down the stairs (everyone's OK, but the comedian witnessing the scene struggles not to laugh) [45:15].

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4. NFL Playoff Contenders as Christmas Songs

[47:01–66:27]

A sprawling, silly segment in which each playoff football team is assigned a Christmas song that matches their season’s "vibe."
Standout Matchups & Analysis:

• Broncos: "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time"
  • "Because they're really good and that song’s really good." — Isabella [48:03]
  • Brady notes both are hotly debated and misunderstood.
• Patriots: "All I Want for Christmas is You" (Mariah Carey) — the clear #1 seed [49:49]
• Ravens: "Do They Know It’s Christmas?"
  • "It's a gigantic mess of famous people." — Brady [50:37]
  • The squad critiques the song's outdated and problematic lyrics in sync with the "all-star" dynamic of the Ravens.
• Jaguars: "Go, Santa, Go" by the Wiggles (unknown, sneaky-good team nobody is watching) [51:34]
• Chiefs: "Baby, It’s Cold Outside"
  • "No team makes you less comfortable... They were once great but really don’t belong here anymore." — Brady [54:21]
• Bills: "Last Christmas" (heartbreak, always almost there) — proposed by Isabella [54:51]
• Chargers: "Let It Snow" (fine, but forgettable attendance)
• Packers: "Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays" by NSYNC (young, energetic, something for everyone) [65:40]
• Rams: "The Christmas Song" by Nat King Cole (old reliable, still a classic)
• Eagles: "O Holy Night" (intense, zero chill fans) [59:01]
  • Brady: "There is absolutely zero chill right now among Eagles fans… like listening to O Holy Night."
• Cowboys: "Santa Baby" (Ariana Grande version—"they don't deserve Eartha Kitt's Santa Baby" [65:07])
• Seahawks: "I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas" (Chris’ personal favorite, much to everyone else’s horror) [62:52]

Notable moment:
Brady attempts to maintain the bit, but Katie frequently questions audience buy-in:

• "I don't know where we are in it..." — Katie [65:09]

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5. Chef & Food Corner

[67:33–75:14]

Yes, Chef: Holiday Food Gossip

• Megan Thee Stallion cooks Thanksgiving for Klay Thompson’s family ("Perfect 10/10," says Klay; Katie: "These two are just pissing me off at this point. Like, we get it, you're in love." [68:39])
• Guy Fieri suffers a major quad injury falling down stairs on Flavortown Food Fight set, described with both horror and deep affection ("Guy Fiefi" nickname ensues, and the team jokingly links the incident with Katie’s aunt’s own stair mishap).
• Martha Stewart replaces Sydney Sweeney as the face of American Eagle’s denim, leading to some bemused discussion of jeans branding, and allusions to Supermarket Sweep’s “homemaker” days. [72:58]
  • "If I have to pick one of the two of them as having good genes, I'm like: Martha." — Brady [74:28]

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6. What to Watch: Sports Picks with Chris

[76:58–79:40]

Brief rundown of the top sporting events to watch this week:

• MLS Cup Final: Inter Miami vs. Vancouver, Sat. Dec 6, 2:30pm ET on Fox
  • Lionel Messi watch!
• Formula 1 Finale: Sun. Dec 7, 8am ET on ESPN
  • Three drivers have a chance at the title in Abu Dhabi.
• NCAA Women’s Soccer Final Four: Friday, Dec 5 (TCU vs. Florida State at 6pm ET; Stanford vs. Duke at 8:45pm ET; all on ESPNU), National Championship: Mon Dec 8, 7pm ET [79:10]

Note: These recommendations will be listed in the show notes for convenience.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Are you going to pay me?" — Lane Kiffin (via Al Davis) [22:42]
• “You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife. Hoes don’t act right.” — Ben Garrett quoting Three Six Mafia [15:05]
• "Famous Thanksgiving movie, Austin Powers." — Katie [07:05]
• "Joe Burrow is missing next week because he has pierced his cheek with a crab shell." — Brady [44:52]
• “He turned what could have been an email... into an entire birthday week.” — Brady on Lane Kiffin's social media antics [31:05]
• “You would not do [get left at an airport] to somebody who wasn't kind of being a hoe.” — Katie [28:32]
• "Nah, he's a hoe. Damn, that's messed up. Ho Miss." — Isabella [30:33]
• "Aunt launched herself down the stairs... Dan wanted to laugh so bad." — Katie [45:15]
• “They are, 'Do they know it’s Christmas?' because the Ravens are a gigantic mess of famous people." — Brady [50:37]
• “The objectively worst Christmas song ever.” — Isabella, about "I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas" [63:44]
• "We got a full playlist of the NFL Playoffs. I think people understand them better now." — Katie [66:27]

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Tone & Style

• Light, comedic, and playful, with running gags, affectionate ribbing, and a blend of sports fandom and pop culture references.
• The squad does deep dives, but always with the “fun not homework” energy, aiming to keep newcomers welcome while indulging in outlandish comparisons and asides.

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

• 03:46: International listener feedback and Thanksgiving rituals.
• 10:18: Lane Kiffin story introduction, college football transfer window, and insurance policy on wild coaching moves.
• 13:26: Lane Kiffin’s history and the “hoe/not-a-hoe” framework.
• 39:55: Thanksgiving halftime show discussion.
• 44:05: Joe Burrow’s crab confusion.
• 47:01: Christmas song comparisons for NFL playoff teams.
• 67:33: Celebrity chef stories & Martha Stewart jeans.
• 76:58: Chris’s “What to Watch” recommendations.

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For the Uninitiated

This episode is a wild, relatable ride through sports headlines, team gossip, and holiday traditions. You’ll come away with a working knowledge of why Lane Kiffin is college football’s most notorious “hoe,” a playlist that translates NFL contenders to Christmas bangers, and plenty of laughs about crabs, corn, and celebrity chefs.

To get the full context on any segment, refer to the timestamps for deep dives and memorable gags.

Transcript

[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Brady]

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[Isabella]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

Well, it's better than socks.

[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

No, AT T mobile. There's no trade ins needed when you switch. Keep your old phone or give it as a gift.

[Brady]

Incredible.

[Katie Nolan]

In fact, wrap up my old phone too for my aunt Rosa. Forget that. Aunt Liz will be jealous.

[Brady]

Sounds like my family drama.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, I got it. I'll give it to my abuela. I'll take reindeer paper with. Hey, where are you going?

[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

When it comes to gifting, everyone on your list deserves something special. Luckily, Marshall's buyers travel far and wide, hustling for great deals on amazing gifts so you don't have to. That means your mom gets that cashmere sweater, your best friend, that Italian leather bag. Your co workers unwrap their favorite beauty brands, and your nephews the coolest new toys.

[Isabella]

Go ahead.

[Katie Nolan]

At prices this good, you can grab something for yourself too. Marshalls, we get the deals. You gift the good stuff. Shop [e-mail] or find a store near you. Hey Isabella, did you see that? They picked the Oxford word of the year for 2025.

[Isabella]

Okay, and what is it?

[Katie Nolan]

Rage bait.

[Isabella]

I feel like them choosing that was rage bait. Like that annoyed me. And how do you feel about that?

[Katie Nolan]

I feel like I. I could have sworn it was going to be Aura farm.

[Isabella]

Oh, no. Because it's like two words. I think.

[Katie Nolan]

So is rage bait rage bait's two words? I think. I think so. The phrase meaning to get angry scrolling through social media, which is not what it means. Rage bait is. Well, I guess. Yeah, it's made to make you angry. But getting angry while scrolling is doom scrolling. Those are two very different things.

[Brady]

So then it works. This is what they've done.

[Katie Nolan]

They've Rage baited me. It's a self aware word of the year. I'm pissed about it. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that aims to get you caught up on everything happening in sports without losing you to minutia like numbers and stats and boring stuff. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Joined today as it is a Tuesday by my casualties, our production team. We have Isabella, our sports newbie.

[Brady]

Hello.

[Katie Nolan]

Chris, our masterful editor.

[Chris]

Oh, what's up?

[Katie Nolan]

And. And Br and Brady's here.

[Brady]

Hello. Can't melodically.

[Katie Nolan]

Hello. Hello, Brady. Thanks for being here. If you want to reach out to us, as always, you can. We encourage it. Our email is Casual with Katie nolan gmail.com our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. We're going to do an email. We'll check our email inbox and then we'll do. We got a yap. But it's an. It's a interactive one today, folks. We're going to do Lane Kiffin in the yap and then we'll get into NFL and Thanksgiving and wider NFL season stuff. And then I believe we've got some stuff about chefs coming up later in the show. Does that. Is that a good preview?

[Isabella]

Yes, chef.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, Chef. Yes, chef. Behind. And so we'll get into all of that. Let's start with, I guess the emails. Chris, did we get anything good during this holiday break?

[Chris]

We did. We got a great email.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Isabella]

Wow.

[Chris]

From Sarah from Australia.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

And Sarah's gonna keep it short and sweet. And she says 1. Chris says slalom correctly.

[Katie Nolan]

Slalom.

[Chris]

2. Meat pie is the best.

[Katie Nolan]

Pie.

[Brady]

Meat. Not even a pie.

[Katie Nolan]

What is this?

[Isabella]

I do Love meat pie.

[Katie Nolan]

3.

[Chris]

Love you. Mean it. Awww. Thank you. Sarah from Australia.

[Katie Nolan]

Sarah, love you. Mean it too. So she. So that. So it's confirmed. Your kind says slalom down under. That's wild. Why so far off from what we say? You know what we should do is look up what they say in like Norway Slalom.

[Isabella]

Why is that like the Switzerland in this?

[Katie Nolan]

I just feel like they are the cold. They love the cold Olympics. We gotta go to one of those cold countries that dominates in the Olympics and see how they say it. And that's gotta be the right way.

[Isabella]

As someone who had no idea what this was. So to me, it's slalom. I'll take that on. I'll take that on, you guys.

[Katie Nolan]

Are you informing her? You're making her between this and which score goes first the higher score or the winning score or whatever is. You're screwing her up in sports, social circles in America. She'll be great if she ever goes to Australia on a day long flight.

[Chris]

I'm just. I'm just teaching world cultures. That's all I'm doing.

[Brady]

You are my kids learning things from Bluey and Peppa Pig before they learn them in America. And like, going to daycare and telling the teachers that they were going on holiday. Like, this is a vacation. It's called a vacation.

[Katie Nolan]

Holiday is. People get it, though. Mostly. How was everybody's holiday? Was your Thanksgiving good?

[Isabella]

It was. It was really.

[Chris]

It was low key. It was fine. A lot of kids.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

On my own, but just a lot of. Damn, that's seeing a lot of them four days in a row.

[Katie Nolan]

Sounds brutal. Brady.

[Brady]

Good, good. Stressful hosting. It's a lot.

[Katie Nolan]

Did you make the corn?

[Brady]

Made the corn.

[Katie Nolan]

So did I.

[Brady]

Made the turkey. Made a good tenderloin. Tenderloin was a little overcooked.

[Chris]

Brady, stop talking. Katie, how was your corn?

[Katie Nolan]

It was okay. It was good. It was. I got profuse compliments from my family members. Aw.

[Chris]

Before or after they.

[Katie Nolan]

After they ate it? After they ate it.

[Chris]

Okay, good, good.

[Katie Nolan]

Which made me feel like everybody was like. Felt like they had to do that. It was just a corn casserole. It was very easy. Any recipe that involves two different types of canned corn cannot possibly be something that you need to write a whole ode to me about. It was easy to do. It was buttery and salty, which is all I ever care about. And I didn't burn it, so it was fine. I do think I've signed myself up now for, like, a lifetime of bringing a dish, but I think I can find one dish a year. It really wasn't hard. It was nice to be a part of it all.

[Isabella]

Hey, I was actually you this year. I actually just showed up.

[Katie Nolan]

And what was that like?

[Isabella]

It was honestly kind of nice. And I don't know what it was, but everyone, like, when they would ask me to do something, I'd be like, yeah, sure. But then someone else would want to be like, no, no, no, don't worry, I'll do it. I'm like, okay, yeah, it's really nice. I got to sip on, like, my little cocktail. It was good.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Dude, you're supposed to say, no, I'll take it.

[Katie Nolan]

No, no. She did it. Exactly.

[Brady]

You broke the cycle of rejection.

[Katie Nolan]

Did it? Exactly. Did you watch any football, Isabella?

[Isabella]

No. I'm so sorry.

[Katie Nolan]

Not even a little. On Thanksgiving.

[Isabella]

There was no one else. I watched Austin Powers.

[Katie Nolan]

Famous Thanksgiving movie, Austin Powers.

[Isabella]

Everyone was like, yo, let's turn on.

[Katie Nolan]

No interest at all in a single game.

[Isabella]

I don't. I will say failing you guys. Sorry, I didn't. I didn't know what to.

[Chris]

Was it because you were watching UNC in Michigan State?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, of course.

[Isabella]

Absolutely.

[Katie Nolan]

I brought that up, Chris. At family Thanksgiving, I was like, you know, a friend of mine says we should be watching NCAA men's basketball today. And before I had even finished the sentence, everybody was looking at me with a face of like, we will not be doing that. So.

[Chris]

So once the UNC game started on Thursday, that's what was on the television at the house that I was at.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And everyone was watching the UNC fans. And how did it go?

[Chris]

Everyone a UNC fan. Like, we live in the South. North Carolina. Is college basketball.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Chris]

So it's not really that.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, the game. Chris, who won the game?

[Chris]

Not so good for unc.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

Michigan State won.

[Brady]

You Miss Post Malone.

[Isabella]

Mm.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Oh, how did we feel about the halftime shows? Oh, we're gonna get into this later. Yes. In Thanksgiving football.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Let's hold this.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, we'll hold this. I just wanted everyone to know I cooked something, so.

[Chris]

Good job, Katie.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm proud of you. Thank you guys so much.

[Isabella]

And you cook here every day on the mic.

[Chris]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

That'S exactly right. Isabelle makes a really great point.

[Chris]

Sick.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, the big news from the weekend is college football related. Here's the deal. I've always said I'm not a big college football gal. I'm from the Northeast. I envy people who love college football because it seems fun. It seems like religion to people who are really into it. It seems really closely tied to family, and people go nuts. And I love the culture and the tradition. I'm just on the outside of it. So usually we shy away a bit from college football topics just because it's a deep universe, and I am so far on the outside of it now. That being said, this week was rivalry week. A lot of big games. Ohio State beat Michigan huge. Isabella, are you aware of that at all? Has that ever touched you? Have you ever heard about this rivalry? Well, it's a big one in Ohio State, even after they. They would win a national championship. But they just couldn't seem to beat Michigan, and they did. So it was great. That was big. But the big story, I think, is Lane Kiffin, and he is the current coach of Ole Miss. Or was, I guess, the coach of Ole Miss. He's been there for this was his Brady fifth, sixth, sixth season there. They've been doing great. They're 111 on the season. They are all but assured to be in the 12 team College football Playoff which Isabella is there postseason. So he's coached this team well. They are about to go into the playoff and Lane Kiffin has announced as was rumored to be announced over the last what week or two. He has announced he is leaving Ole Miss before the playoff playoff and that he's going to be the new head coach at lsu. Kiffin says that he was denied his request to finish out the season with Ole Miss by the athletic director Keith Carter, who did not want a coach for another team in the sec. LSU to be just their head coach, talking to the players, potentially recruiting them to come to his new program, etc. His new deal with LSU is for seven years and is worth approximately $12 million annually with the potential for bonuses, a source told ESPN. Which would make Kiffin one of the highest paid coaches in college football. So not great. A lot of different opinions on this. Now look, one of the things to understand and I don't fully so it's the way the college football calendar is, is that this decision, if Lane Kiffin were going to make it, if he wanted to be the head coach of lsu, had to be made now. Brady, can you help people understand why that is?

[Brady]

They have a transfer portal window that opens on January 2 and the transfer portal is as important as recruiting now because players can just move freely between programs. So you can't go to that window without a head coach. Like you need to have a program in place to be able to recruit players from other schools that want to move to be able to come to your school.

[Katie Nolan]

Now why Isabella? Isabella, such a big part of why you would leave schools is if there's a great coach at the program and you'd want to like you would not want to enter a transfer portal from where you currently are to go to another school if they didn't even have a head coach. So you have to have your head coach by then.

[Isabella]

Gotcha.

[Brady]

So that date is a mess. Putting it there in the middle of the playoff is an absolute mess because you still have teams competing for the title and it means that you have to have a coach in place ahead of time, which means now you have guys like Lane Kiffin jumping for big paychecks while they are still in the middle of trying to win a national championship. He's jumping. He can say all he wants that he is moving to try to win a national championship at lsu. But he has the opportunity to win a national championship in front of him, but has to do it now because of that January 2nd date.

[Isabella]

And he can't, like, finish the season well.

[Katie Nolan]

So he says that he wanted to. He says, I would have wanted to stay coaching them for the rest of the season. The problem is, and there were reports that he denies that he told their coaching staff at Ole Miss, if those assistants wanted to come with me, they had to make that decision now as well. The fear is that the coach would be. Could potentially, because of this transfer portal and because of how easy it is now for athletes to move between schools, that the coach could, like, really bond with these kids in a way that then he clears out the program next year when he goes to. And would they. Would that keep them from competing in the national championship if they. Right. So they. He could gut the team, essentially. And I think the argument that you would make there is that Lane Kiffin's reputation precedes him and that maybe it wouldn't be the best idea to trust a guy like that to do the right thing and not gut the program of its coaching staff and athletes because of just who. What he. Decisions he's made in the past.

[Brady]

He has already tried to do this coaching thing while coaching another team. When he was leaving Alabama, he was the offensive coordinator at Alabama, took the job with Florida Atlantic and said, all right, I'm going to coach the bowl game still. And Nick in the playoffs and Nick Saban, like, days before that bowl game was like, your head's not in this. Sarkeesian's running the offense. So he's tried this before and failed because you cannot run that offense while simultaneously trying to recruit for another school.

[Katie Nolan]

Which actually, I'm glad, Isabella, that you asked. This leads us to a sort of retrospective on Lane Kiffin. I thought we could give you and let you know who he is, where he's been and what he's done.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

To frame this, I figured we would use something that happened this weekend that was like a different headline. So there's this podcaster named Ben Garrett who works for. What's it called? On three or something on.

[Brady]

Yep.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And he's. He's covered the team for a while, the Rebels. And he said of him, do we have this clip? We do have this, right?

[Isabella]

Yes, we do have it.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, cool. Let's play what Ben Garrett said about Lane Kiffin before this weekend.

[Chris]

You know, this whole situation reminds me.

[Katie Nolan]

Of a project Pat Line.

[Brady]

Do you Know what that Project Patlon was?

[Chris]

Do you even know who Project Pat is? I know who it is. I don't know. Project Pata from 36 Mafia, right up in the road, from here, in New Albany, in Memphis, 10 and Key. He said, you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. Hoes don't act right. And I'm just. I feel it's appropriate because, I mean, tell me it's right. Like, dude, it is what it is. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

[Katie Nolan]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Is that. Is that Three Six Mafia? I thought that was ludicrous.

[Brady]

Three Six Mafia is attributed to saying in 2001 on the track don't save her, whereas Ludacris used it in 2003.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh.

[Brady]

So I think Ben Garrett maybe the edge on lore here.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my bad. That sentence, to me, this is where you tell on yourself and you don't realize it. Where you go like, yeah, that's a ludicrous lyric. And like, well, no, they were actually referencing a cooler thing that you in suburban Framingham, Massachusetts, were not plugged into in any type of way. So, anyway, this podcaster told Lane Kiffin he can't. He's a. He basically said he's a hoe. Not to treat him like a housewife. Cause he's a hoe. So Kiffin, this weekend after Ole Miss beat Mississippi State, approached Garrett at the stadium and said, you want to walk in here and call me a hoe? We'll see how it goes. So I thought we could show Isabella the things Lane Kiffin has done throughout his career, and Isabella could help us determine if Lane Kiffin is a hoe. Okay, now, obviously, before we begin, we would have to define ho.

[Isabella]

Yes. How are we defining this?

[Katie Nolan]

I would like to first say that ho is, of course, rooted in misogyny and outdated gender norms that vilify women for sexual promiscuity that would otherwise garner men respect. That being said, I think we all know he's trying to say something like very specific. So maybe we can define some characteristics of a hoe that could help us, help guide us in this journey. It's a tough term to define. Ken Jennings, the now host of Jeopardy, Once famously struggled with this when he was a contestant on the show. Do we have that clue?

[Brady]

Tool time for 200. This term for a long handled gardening.

[Chris]

Tool can also mean an immoral pleasure seeker.

[Brady]

Ken, what's a hoe?

[Chris]

No.

[Ad]

Whoa.

[Brady]

Where's the lie, Alex?

[Isabella]

Whoa.

[Brady]

They teach you that in School in Utah, huh?

[Katie Nolan]

Al, what's a rake? A rake is rake, was the correct answer.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God. Damn.

[Katie Nolan]

Classic Ken Jennings clip. But so I think, Isabella, how would you define again, knowing that it's obviously not a term that we would recommend everybody use and not something that we're encouraging in any way. What would you say are, like, defining characteristics of a hoe?

[Isabella]

Okay, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of some hoes.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm just kidding. Well, okay.

[Isabella]

With the context of this story, I could see why you want to call him a hoe. Because it's like, damn. Like, why'd you do them like that?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. All right, then let's just get into the stuff he's done, and then we can decide if you believe that this is hoe behavior or not. Does that sound good?

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Sounds good. Okay, so let's go. Let's go all the way back to the, I guess, beginning of his head coaching career. Okay, so he was an offensive coordinator at USC for two years, I believe, and then was hired very young, in his early 30s, by Al Davis and the Raiders to be the head coach. Al Davis has a history of. Of. Of liking him young, I guess, when it comes to a head coach. He hired a lot of head coaches in their 30s. John Madden, John Gruden, Mike Shanahan, I believe he's. He's. That's kind of what he tended to do. He liked to take a chance on a younger guy. So he hires Lane Kiffin. And then after one season, one and change or one? I think it's one and change. Doesn't he get a little bit into the second season?

[Brady]

Yeah, 20 games. Right.

[Katie Nolan]

He fires him. He fires him and calls a kind of unprecedented news conference the day after firing him to. It's Isabella. It's very dramatic. He brought an overhead projector. And you know what that is. Do they still use those?

[Isabella]

I doubt they didn't when I was.

[Katie Nolan]

In elementary school, but they tried. He wanted to put on there a letter that he had sent to Lane Kiffin earlier in the season and have reporters take a look at it. I watched the clip. I don't think they ever get the overhead projector to work. He keeps asking if they're looking at it. Let's play a quick clip of it just to give Isabella a sense of how dramatic he is. Al Davis is being in this press conference. He's listing all the things he doesn't like about him, and then this moment happens.

[Al Davis]

But I never dreamt that you would be Untruthful in attempts and in statements in the press, as well as so many other issues. Your actions are those of a coach looking to make excuses for not winning rather than a coach focused on winning. Let's go to the second page.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh.

[Isabella]

There'S more.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so, okay, in. In that actual clip, the only criticism you're hearing there is that he's focused more on excuses for not winning rather than focused on winning. I would say that's bum behavior. I don't know if I'd call that action specifically hoe behavior focused on not wanting to work and just having the work done is like a bum. But I wouldn't necessarily say a hoe.

[Isabella]

No, I'd just be like, he just wants to relax.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he's just lazy. You can call him lazy, but not necessarily a ho.

[Isabella]

Yeah, no, no, no.

[Katie Nolan]

So he continues in this press conference. He calls him a liar. He criticizes his clock management. He really. He really crashes out Al Davis. He, like, gets. I don't know, the tone of it changes as he's discussing Lane Kiffin. Let's listen. This is further. This is about 19 minutes into the press conference when Al is just. You know what? I'll just let him do the talking. Here's what he had to say then.

[Al Davis]

Yesterday, I think it was yesterday, some. One of you asked him, have you talked to Al? And all of a sudden he said, I'm not going to tell you if I talk to Al after having denied talking to me, after having denied communication. I'm not going to tell you what goes on between Al and I. But in the past, ho, ho, ho. He couldn't wait to talk about what goes on between Al and I.

[Katie Nolan]

But in the past, Talk about what's going on with Al and I. That man's crashing out. Which hoes do be doing to guys. Sometimes hoes can make a guy crash out. What do you mean? We don't talk? We talk all the time. You don't want to tell them if we talk? You used to tell them that we talked.

[Isabella]

You don't want to post to me on your story?

[Katie Nolan]

Does that not sound like a man who's being guiled, beguiled by a hoe? I think the best piece of evidence we have from this press conference is this final bit.

[Al Davis]

The first question he asked me when I said, you're going to be fired or you're being relieved for cause. Are you going to pay me? First question.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, that's. That's ho behavior.

[Isabella]

Wait, hold on. So he. He's asking If I'm. If I'm.

[Katie Nolan]

Al Davis fires Lane Kiffin. Uh huh. And he says, according to Al Davis, that Lane Kiffin's first question when he was like, listen, we're gonna be letting you go with. Cause I love how they say that in the press conference. Like he needs to make sure that everyone knows I'm gonna. We're gonna fire you. And Lane Kiffin says, are you gonna pay me? So based off of that, do you feel like his time at Oakland is proof that he is hoe or no Isabella?

[Isabella]

Ho or no? Ho or no? Hoe or no.

[Katie Nolan]

We're gonna keep deciding throughout. You don't have to know for sure.

[Isabella]

I know. I don't know this information.

[Katie Nolan]

Did you feel as though he was behaving in ways that are hoe esque?

[Isabella]

Hoe adjacent.

[Katie Nolan]

Hoe adjacent.

[Isabella]

That could sound like it. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Isabella]

Wait, this is particularly. Oh, this is with Oakland. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't like it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he left. They had Tom Cable took over. Lane Kiffin took with him his assistant James Craig with two weeks left in the NFL season and he stole the coach and brought him with him. When he left to go to where he's going, Tom Cable said that that is wrong in the business of coaching and that he was. He had lost respect for him because he did that and that he was going to confront him about it. Then we never heard about it again. So hopefully he did confront him about it and fought him. But would you say that. That stealing your coach is that hoe.

[Isabella]

Behavior, actively trying to steal the coach?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Isabella]

That's not nice.

[Katie Nolan]

It doesn't look good. That's for sure. So, okay, after this. This is after. While he's at the Raiders, Isabella Lane Kiffin continuously says, I know there's rumors that I want to coach a college team. There's no truth to those. I'm happy where I am. November 28th of 2008, multiple outlets report that he's going to go to Tennessee in 2009. November 30th, he's fired and he signs the memorandum of understanding with Tennessee. And December 1st, he's formally intro at 2:00pm at a press conference as the head coach of Tennessee to help that hit. I will remind you 30 days in November. So the day after he's fired, they announce he's the head coach of Tennessee. Does that sound like relationship overlap?

[Isabella]

Yeah. What were you doing behind closed doors?

[Katie Nolan]

Does that feel like hoe behavior?

[Isabella]

Yeah, I don't like that.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not great. It's not great. Okay, so 2009, he coaches at Tennessee, has a 7, 6 record. Previously they were 5 and 7. So that's better. They did better under him in his first year than they did there. I believe he was on a six year deal that he signed when he went to Tennessee. So they said, we want you for six years. And he said, I'll sign right here. Okay. Then in 2010, preseason. So in between, he just coached his first season at Tennessee. Now we're in the recruiting season for the next year. 2010, Pete Carroll, the head coach of USC, leaves to become the head coach of the Seahawks, which means that there's a head coaching vacancy at usc. And Lane Kiffin leaves to become the head coach of usc.

[Isabella]

What's up with this guy? Wait, so I'm assuming this sounds like he's making backdoor deals, right? While he's.

[Katie Nolan]

It sounds like he's looking out for one guy, and that guy's Lane Kiffin.

[Isabella]

Gotcha. Okay, so then now with this news coming out, it's like, damn, what the hell?

[Katie Nolan]

Again? Uh huh. The Tennessee athletic director, Mike Hamilton, when asked to describe Lane Kiffin's tenure at Tennessee, said one word, brief. And hundreds of Tennessee students rioted on campus and started several small fires.

[Brady]

To be fair, they just want to set small fires.

[Katie Nolan]

Very true.

[Isabella]

I was gonna say. Damn. All of this over this, this guy.

[Katie Nolan]

That's very, very true.

[Isabella]

Wait, so just to be clear, the times, the previous times where he got hired by a different school, was it followed by him specifically being fired from the previous school or just him being let go?

[Katie Nolan]

So the Raiders fired him, but it was, I think, because they felt like he was going to leave and he also wasn't. You know, they felt he was a liar. Then he went to Tennessee. Tennessee. He signed a big deal and then he sort of snuck. He didn't get fired. Right.

[Brady]

He left on his own.

[Katie Nolan]

Then usc, he gets fired. Usc, they left him at the airport. They. They lost to Arizona State, 62 to 41. And then they got on a plane, flew home, landed at LAX at 3am and they left him at the airport and took his bags and the team bus and drove away.

[Isabella]

Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Which you would not do to somebody.

[Isabella]

Who wasn't fucking you over and being a.

[Katie Nolan]

Who wasn't kind of being a hoe. Do you know what I mean?

[Isabella]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brady]

Mom, it's Lane. Mom, it's Lane. Yeah, I need you. Yeah, I'm at the airport. Yeah, yeah, I got fired again. Yeah, yeah, they have my bags.

[Isabella]

This time it seems like this guy just like, try out different schools. Like, I don't get it.

[Katie Nolan]

Then he goes to Alabama. This is the thing Brady was talking about. Then he goes to Alabama. He's the offensive coordinator there. Eventually, in 2017, he accepts the job as the head coach at Florida Atlantic, but he elects to stay the offensive coordinator through the playoffs for Alabama. And then instead he gets relieved of his duties because his head coach was like, you are not focused. You're thinking too much about fau. You're too much out the door already. So you're out. We will not let you. We're not going to let you coach here. They said he was late for several meetings ahead of the semifinals against Washington. And then right after that game, they fired him and replaced him with Steve Sarkeesian again. Because he was replaced by Steve eventually at USC as well. Jesus.

[Isabella]

Damn. This guy has commitment issues. Serious.

[Katie Nolan]

And that leaves us to this year. He. Well, actually, I guess first he went. Reports were that he was going to go to Ole Miss as their head coach on December 6th of 2019. Then on the 7th, Florida Atlantic beat UAB in the Conference USA Championships. And then that night, Lane Kiffin was confirmed to Ole Miss. He left before they went to the Boca Raton bowl to go to Ole Miss. Coached there until now. And now they're poised to go into the playoffs and he is leaving to become the head coach of lsu. So, Isabella, now that you know all about Lane Chiffon and I skipped some chapters.

[Isabella]

Damn. Skipped chapters.

[Katie Nolan]

I did. Do you feel that Lane Kiffin is a ho or no?

[Isabella]

Nah, he's a hoe. Damn, that's messed up. Ho Miss.

[Katie Nolan]

Ho Miss Ol. Ho Brady. That covers most of it, right?

[Brady]

That covers it.

[Isabella]

I'm glad you gave me that context, though, because I could just from reading the headline and like, a little bit of details, I could see how you could immediately think of like, the take is like, oh, this is just a guy that just wants like a lot of money.

[Brady]

And, well, what you. The one thing you left out was just the fact that Lane Kiffin did all of this over social media for as long as possible.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And just he turned what could have been an email. Who could have been, you know, let the. Let LSU put out their press release. Let Ole Miss put out their press release. Turned into an entire birthday week. Birthday week celebration with Evites where he needed everyone to know all of his moves. He's then announced it like, hey, we will come to a decision on Saturday. Everyone sat around on Their ass on Saturday waiting for something. Didn't have an announcement until Sunday, then came out and had to push on social media that, hey, I want to coach this team and they're not letting me. Trying to get out in front of the narrative, but just, you're the only one who does it. You don't need to troll. You don't need to be on social. You don't need this attention. Just let it play out. But it's got to be about him. It's a tough existence to be a fan of a team where Lane Kiffin is the head coach.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't. Even if I'm lsu, am I excited? I mean, he's a good offensive coach. He wasn't. I mean, as the head coach of a giant program, I would say he didn't. The, the, the. You gotta do it quicker. He needs to find success very quickly at lsu. I feel like the spotlight's going to be very, very bright and maybe he can do it. He did. What frustrated me is he'd said that Ole Miss really changed him as a person. He stopped drinking, he slowed down. He adapted to their lifestyle and sort of became closer again with his family.

[Isabella]

And he's a cheater. And you fucking played them.

[Katie Nolan]

And then he just kind of did the same thing.

[Isabella]

He's like, I'm pissed. I don't like him.

[Chris]

I love how committed you are now to hating on Link.

[Isabella]

Oh, you think that they changed you?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Isabella]

And act like they were the one. Yeah, well, you fucking left.

[Katie Nolan]

So hoe behavior.

[Isabella]

I'm looking at photos of him right now. Whatever. Get your fucking visor off, bro.

[Katie Nolan]

Ugh. Isabelle. This will also. This will also. This will help. Bomani told a story about how Dan Lebatard's father used to co host on a show that we did called Highly Questionable. His father's older and Cuban, and so he speaks with an accent. And he was asking Lane Kiffin a question. He always got one silly question to ask any guest. And guests played along with him as a lovable character on the show.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Halfway through Poppy's question, according to Bomani's story, Lane Kiffin, on a. On a zoom or whatever, a two way a talk back, stopped and said, speak English.

[Chris]

What?

[Isabella]

Oh, fuck this guy. What the fuck?

[Katie Nolan]

Ew.

[Isabella]

Get this guy's face off my tab. I don't like it.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right.

[Isabella]

Let's move on.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

1905. Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Thanksgiving football. The good and the bad. It was mostly all, I think, kind of good. The Cowboys beat the Chiefs in the second game of the day. That was surpri. Was it all underdogs on Thanksgiving? I believe it was the first time the packers were the underdog all season and they beat the Lions, the Cowboys beat the Chiefs, and then we'll get to the Bengals and what happened with them. So the Cowboys beat the Chiefs. They are now 6 5, 1 on the season, which means we get to keep talking for the rest of the season about how they might just be making a playoff push. And boy do I love that. Boy do I love talking about the six five one Cowboys as if they're really, really.

[Isabella]

Good. The six seven.

[Katie Nolan]

Cowboys. Isabella, get out. Get out. Don't come back. Okay? I'm really sorry. Get out. Don't come back. After the game, Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson proceeded to pick up the entire turkey by shoving his fist into it and gnawing.

[Brady]

Away. It was aggressive and terrifying and also just he had his whole arm intimately inside a.

[Katie Nolan]

Turkey. I don't like that it was.

[Brady]

Four. Holding it up and having his teammates take full mouthed bites off of the turkey that was replacing his lower.

[Isabella]

Arm. And he's saving utensils, you.

[Katie Nolan]

Know. So true. Eco friendly. Really important because your napkin could be the one that causes global warming. It couldn't be the dumping of all of the chemicals by all of these factories. No, no, no, I get.

[Brady]

It. It's a tough guy move because if the outside of that turkey is warm enough to eat, then the inside is scalding.

[Katie Nolan]

Hot. And also, you know, the outside's not warm enough to eat. You know, that stuff is cold and has been sitting there just stewing. And I. Look, I get it. I get the visual. I understand the. The. The fun of it. I don't need the meat play on Thanksgiving. There is so much, like, over the. Like, the big legs and the. And the carcasses. I. Is anyone liking.

[Chris]

This? Well, we're going to get to him in a little bit. But Joe Burrow essentially said that he's. He didn't touch the turkey. He's like, I don't know who made it. I don't know where it came from. I'm not touching.

[Katie Nolan]

It. It's the.

[Chris]

Correct. Fair call. Joe.

[Brady]

Burrow. Justin Jefferson had the best play a couple years ago. He said, I can't eat this because he had his grill in nice. Sorry, man. Just. I got diamonds in my teeth. I can't eat this right.

[Katie Nolan]

Now. Everybody knows that you can't eat with your grill in. Eminem joined Jack White for the first halftime for the halftime show in Detroit. Listen, this was on mute in our house when Jack White was not out of offense to Jack White. We were, like, getting ready to sit down. I feel like when this happened, as soon as Eminem came out, we were scrambling, the millennials were scrambling for a remote to be like, hold on, hold on. They're doing this for us. We must unmute. We must unmute and hear what song it was. Did he only do one? Because we heard it was Till I Collapsed, but we don't.

[Brady]

Know. It was. It was hello Operator into Till I.

[Katie Nolan]

Collapse.

[Brady]

Yeah. Going White Stripes into.

[Katie Nolan]

Eminem.

[Brady]

Yeah. And then came back with Seven Nation army, which was the most me halftime show I think they could have.

[Katie Nolan]

Done. Really? That's it. That's peak.

[Brady]

Brady. That's pretty. That's.

[Katie Nolan]

Peak. That's great. So were you.

[Brady]

Happy? Thank you. Cbs. Yeah, it was. Or Fox as the Fox game. Hell, yeah. I was happy. Yeah, I was happy. My family was happy. My dad asked me if that was Bad Bunny, and I was like, no, but.

[Katie Nolan]

Why? Wait, wait.

[Isabella]

Wait. Which one was he curious.

[Brady]

About? When Eminem came out, to be fair, my dad saw halftime show. He saw a rapper he wasn't familiar.

[Chris]

With.

[Brady]

Okay. He remembered a lot of news stories, and it all started to connect, and I was like, no.

[Katie Nolan]

That'S. Stay tuned to be fair. But too generous. He should know that's not Bad Bunny. Don't you love Eminem? Didn't your childhood have Eminem in.

[Brady]

It? It had a lot of it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. He was there for that.

[Brady]

Right? He.

[Katie Nolan]

Was. So it feels like you had.

[Isabella]

An Eminem poster on your.

[Brady]

Wall. I. I didn't have the poster, no. No. But I had the. The Jewel sitting on my.

[Katie Nolan]

Truck. That's how I feel. Whenever somebody asked me about posters, I'm like, my mom didn't let me hang posters on my.

[Isabella]

Wall. That's how I.

[Brady]

Feel. With magazines, of course. You got movie posters.

[Katie Nolan]

New?

[Chris]

Yeah. I would go to the local video store, and they would, like, have the old movie posters that they wouldn't, you know, that they're just gonna throw out. Just get them bringing.

[Katie Nolan]

Back. Did you have a Boondock.

[Brady]

Saints? I was just gonna ask, did Chris have a Boondock.

[Chris]

Saint? I don't think I did have a Boondock.

[Katie Nolan]

Saint. Did you have a Pulp.

[Al Davis]

Fiction?

[Chris]

No. I wanted one, but I had, like, newer movies because I didn't have, like, Pulp Fiction.

[Katie Nolan]

Posters. Can we guess one movie that Chris had a poster of? Hung Up.

[Brady]

Brady. Okay, Chris, you had a poster on your wall of.

[Isabella]

Memento. Oh, that's a good.

[Katie Nolan]

One. That's a good one. That's a really good.

[Chris]

One. No, I don't think I did. That is a good.

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[Chris]

Huh? That is a good.

[Katie Nolan]

One.

[Isabella]

Interstellar. No, that's too new, I think, for him to.

[Katie Nolan]

Want. Oh, yeah. As a kid. Right, right, right. Did.

[Isabella]

You. My thought was, did you have something like Seven.

[Chris]

Samurai? No. See, like, I wanted to go.

[Isabella]

Like a Kurosawa poster or.

[Chris]

Something. Hey, Seven Samurai is one of my favorite movies of all time. Pulp Fiction is one of my favorite movies of all time. But I didn't go those classic movie posters. I looked at getting them at one stage. They're gonna be too expensive, so just got the free ones from the video store that were just, like, newer movies. No, one of the ones I would take was, like. It was like the Last House on the Left remake poster I.

[Isabella]

Had. Oh, that one was actually really.

[Katie Nolan]

Scary. Operation Dumbo.

[Isabella]

Drop.

[Brady]

Oh, Everything that Blockbuster was thrown away in 1995, Chris.

[Chris]

Had. This is like.

[Katie Nolan]

07.

[Brady]

Ew. He's just got wrinkly copies of what's Eating Gilbert Grape? Just up there on the.

[Katie Nolan]

Wall. Oh, shout out. What's Eating Gilbert.

[Isabella]

Grape? Yeah, that.

[Katie Nolan]

Movie. Come.

[Isabella]

On. It's so Shout.

[Katie Nolan]

Out. Arnie. What are you giving them to us? Have you said them.

[Chris]

Yet? Yeah, like the. The Last House on the Left remake. There was probably. I think I spilled on your.

[Brady]

Grave. Oh.

[Chris]

God. Make cover.

[Brady]

Also. What.

[Katie Nolan]

The. This is what I say about Chris all the time is he's our movie guy. And when you ask him about a movie, he doesn't know it, but then he'll bring out the most obscure.

[Chris]

And you're like, what is a spirit in your grave is.

[Katie Nolan]

Obscure? I don't.

[Brady]

Know. It's obscure. In the sacred. Do not put that on your.

[Katie Nolan]

Wall poster on your.

[Brady]

Wall. It's up there with, like, put the Serbian film on your wall. Like, what the hell is.

[Katie Nolan]

Wrong? There will be.

[Chris]

Blood. You know what? That might have actually been one of.

[Katie Nolan]

Them. I.

[Chris]

Win. I think I had that.

[Katie Nolan]

One. I win. Game over. I win. Sorry, everybody. I win. Joe Burrow had to ask Melissa Stark what a crab was. This is fascinating. In his first game back since turf toe surgery, Burrow led the Cincinnati Bengals to a 3214 win over the Ravens. I did not see that coming. After the game, he and his fellow teammates gathered for a customary on field Thanksgiving meal along with NBC sideline reporter Melissa Stark. While one of Burrow's teammates was being interviewed, he looked quizzically at one of the crowds on the table and asked Melissa Stark, what is.

[Isabella]

This? Oh.

[Chris]

Buddy. I thought of Brady straight away. I'm like, what is Brady gonna.

[Brady]

Think? Thank God Melissa is from Baltimore, which you don't even need to be from Baltimore. Like, 99 of humans could be like, joe, that is crab. That is a whole crab. It was a big.

[Katie Nolan]

Crab. A whole.

[Isabella]

Crab. That's a crazy thing to call it. Like, that's just the.

[Katie Nolan]

Crabs. You don't know about a hole.

[Isabella]

Crab. It's really.

[Brady]

Tasty. Tasty, Joe. So Joe picks it up. What is this? And then like, when Melissa says, it's a crab, it's a Maryland crab. Joe starts to lean in, and Melissa goes, you don't bite it. It's a hard.

[Katie Nolan]

Shell. Why are they the dumbest at the simplest.

[Isabella]

Things? He's not gonna bite into the turkey, but he's gonna bite into a hard shell.

[Brady]

Crab.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. He's like, this feels hard, and I'm unfamiliar with.

[Chris]

It.

[Katie Nolan]

Why? In what.

[Brady]

World? Joe Burrow is missing next week because he has pierced his cheek with a crab.

[Katie Nolan]

Shot. Oh, my God. Just disgusting. An interesting day of football on Thanksgiving. Now, somewhere in that third game is when my aunt launched herself down the stairs. So I missed the. She's fine. It did not look that way for a little.

[Isabella]

Bit. Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

Man. The problem is only one person in the whole family saw it, and it was Dan. And it was. He was he couldn't. He wanted to laugh so.

[Brady]

Bad. It's the downside with having a comedian alert you about emergencies in the.

[Katie Nolan]

House. Well, so we were all. We all heard it. Everybody reacted. I ran away. I thought somebody would maybe had died. Dan was trying to hold in laughter. Cause you gotta wait to see if the person's.

[Brady]

Okay. Yeah. Tragedy plus time. I get.

[Katie Nolan]

It. But the way that she launched was apparently, according to him, very. He said top five funniest things he's ever seen in his.

[Brady]

Life. Did it have the sound effect from Uncle Phil throwing Jazz out of the.

[Katie Nolan]

House? Oh, my God. It's all fine. Because she is fine. But it was. He had to go into the bathroom and laugh alone while everybody tried to make sure that she was maniacally laughing. Okay. I've never seen him laugh like that. I've never seen him. I've never seen. Was something else. So we missed.

[Brady]

The. A lot of tour dates to work.

[Katie Nolan]

Days. Holy cow. It's the worst possible person to have to take a huge tumble in front of. And she did it. All right, we have this bit here that I feel like you guys drew up on your own. We're gonna tell the audience the production crew has come up with the famous. Bill Parcells once said that the football season begins after Thanksgiving. Here we are after Thanksgiving. So the football season must be beginning. A lot of people also say that Christmas season begins after Thanksgiving. Is everybody's decorations.

[Chris]

Up? I put my mind sue it as up on Saturday, November.

[Katie Nolan]

1St. November.

[Brady]

1St. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Halloween comes down. Christmas goes up. No gap.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh? Wow. Well, mine's half up. I'm mostly up. Here's what I did. I put them up early. Ish. Before Thanksgiving. And then. And it was okay that I wasn't done. And then now I've just like. Now everything's just like open and all over the place. And I have not finished. I have to just finish it so that it'll be over. Because it's Christmas time. It's Christmas time now. So what we wanted to do, we thought would be a good idea is to go through the NFL playoff hopeful teams and compare them to a Christmas song to sort of get us in both seasons. The football season, which has just begun per Bill Parcells, and the Christmas season, which has also just begun per Mariah Carey. So you guys came up with some and you're gonna pitch them, and I'll just tell you if it's bad or not. Who wants to go.

[Brady]

First? First song is up to.

[Isabella]

Isabella. Okay. So wonderful. Christmas time. One of my favorites, Paul McCartney. You like that.

[Katie Nolan]

One? Yeah. Simply Heaven. And then stop. We can't sing anymore. We'll get in.

[Isabella]

Trouble. Okay. So I chose the Broncos because they're really good and that song's really.

[Katie Nolan]

Good. I can't believe we made Isabella choose a football team. That's like a Christmas song. Feels.

[Isabella]

Advanced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they. They look good. And as I see here, they are first in the AFC.

[Katie Nolan]

West.

[Isabella]

Right. You.

[Katie Nolan]

Know. Right. Simply having a wonderful Christmas.

[Chris]

Time.

[Brady]

Yeah. So much like simply having a wonderful Christmas time. They don't look good to everybody. You know, they came out on Sunday Night Football, squeaked by the.

[Katie Nolan]

Commanders. Are you saying people don't like this.

[Brady]

Song? I'm saying this is a hotly debated.

[Isabella]

Christmas. Yeah. There's a. I just found an NPR article that came out.

[Katie Nolan]

Today. Wow. On the Pulse.

[Isabella]

That. It's horrible. Like, is it horrible? Yeah. They're like, is it not a good song? Which I'm kind of like.

[Katie Nolan]

Really? Well, because if you think about it musically, it's really just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Isabella]

Boom. And it sounds.

[Katie Nolan]

Cool. It's very.

[Isabella]

Basic.

[Brady]

Yeah. But also seven Nation army.

[Katie Nolan]

So. Yes, but can you chant this one at a sporting.

[Brady]

Event? I think people should. So number two, we took the second two loss team in the afc. Broncos with two losses. Patriots with two.

[Chris]

Losses. Excuse.

[Brady]

Me. The first place.

[Katie Nolan]

Pace. That's.

[Brady]

Right. With two losses. Seem like the most unstoppable team in the NFL right now. Now, granted, we're recording this Monday. They're playing Monday night against the.

[Katie Nolan]

Giants. They really.

[Brady]

Could. I'm feeling good about.

[Katie Nolan]

Them. Right, right, right. They could. And now that I've said it, they.

[Isabella]

Will. Okay, and what other song is like the Big.

[Katie Nolan]

Dog? It's gotta be Mariah.

[Isabella]

Carey. All I want for Christmas All.

[Katie Nolan]

I want for Christmas is.

[Brady]

You. That's your one seed. Yeah, it's your absolute one.

[Katie Nolan]

Seed. You guys just did that to make me happy. And it.

[Brady]

Worked. AFC Division Leader. Sitting at 6. 6, the Ravens are a roster full of phenomenal players. Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins, Mark Andrews. Household names, all pros. Yet all together, it never quite feels like they are playing at the same pace in the same direction with the same goal. It is a gigantic mess of famous people. The Baltimore Ravens are. Do they know it's Christmas? The Baltimore Ravens right now, Every now, every week, someone different. It's Bono screaming over top of everybody and sarcastically asking, thank God it's them instead of.

[Katie Nolan]

You. Oh, my God. So Tonight, thank God it's them instead of you. Is crazy.

[Brady]

Rapano. You're just a.

[Katie Nolan]

Dick. It's.

[Isabella]

Crazy. That's so.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy. That's one of the most gift they'll get this year is.

[Brady]

Life. There won't be snow in Africa. There never fucking is, dude. That's not because they're. It's just that's the climate. It's on the.

[Isabella]

Equator. This is one of those songs where it was like when I was a kid, I loved it and then at some point I like.

[Katie Nolan]

Learned. It's catchy, there's a lot of talent. And then you go, what are we doing.

[Isabella]

Here? What are we.

[Katie Nolan]

Saying? What is this? Good? That's a good. That to me is what necessitated the segment was that let's see if Brady can get through the rest of.

[Brady]

It. Chris, I'm going to give you the AFC south.

[Chris]

Leaders. Yeah, AFC South. The leader of that at the moment are the Jags and the Colts. So the Jags currently are at 8 and 4 on the.

[Katie Nolan]

Season.

[Chris]

Sneaky. Doing pretty well. Not a lot of people have been watching them. Not a lot of people know about how good they have been. So they are Go, Santa, Go by the Wiggles. No one in this country literally never heard of it. Really knows a.

[Brady]

Lot. Have you seen a Jaguars.

[Chris]

Game? Go.

[Katie Nolan]

Santa. I have one, I.

[Brady]

Think. I.

[Katie Nolan]

Guess. Good point, good point. Go, Santa, go. Could you give us a little. Can we get a little, you.

[Chris]

Know. Go, Santa, go. You've got such a long way to go. And.

[Katie Nolan]

Then. That's true. Okay.

[Isabella]

Great. He has to stop at every.

[Chris]

House.

[Katie Nolan]

Exactly. Doesn't have a lot of time. Go, go, go. All right.

[Chris]

Great. The Colts and the Colts, they're looking pretty good this year. So we thought that we could do. War is over for them because finally they're getting some peace, they're getting some, some success. They're looking.

[Isabella]

Good. Another great Christmas.

[Katie Nolan]

Song. I feel like they look good at the beginning but are starting to not look as good anymore in a different light. So I almost feel like I don't want to steal from future songs you might be.

[Isabella]

Using. That's.

[Brady]

Fine. Jump.

[Katie Nolan]

In. I would say this, they almost feel like a zoomed out version of how we all reacted to Baby, It's Cold Outside. You know, it almost feels like everybody's like into it and then all of a sudden they're like, oh, in this light. I actually don't think the cults look that.

[Isabella]

Good. Say that.

[Katie Nolan]

Again. Kind of weird, but maybe not. We don't know. They might not Be collapsing. I just know they are on their way. They seem to be on a down slope at the. At the moment. Not that Carly or say Gordon doesn't look.

[Brady]

Cool. She looked so goddamn cool on the sideline.

[Katie Nolan]

Yesterday.

[Brady]

Yeah. In her Balenciaga.

[Katie Nolan]

Balenciaga. I hate when he does that. Brady has insisted on doing that anytime we've discussed this story. He says Balenciaga from a trip.

[Brady]

To Barcelona, looking cool as hell in her custom Balenciaga sneakers that are supporting their, like, mental health awareness.

[Katie Nolan]

Cause.

[Brady]

Yeah. In support of her dad and his struggles and what he went through. Just looking cool as hell. And even though the team may be tanking right now and on their way out.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe. Maybe they could still be. They might be fine. Daniel Jones has a fibula that.

[Brady]

Hurts. And they spent a lot of time on the cast he was wearing on.

[Katie Nolan]

His. Yeah, Isabella and I looked that up today on the radio because I was like, that's your shin. Right. And everybody looked panicked. Nobody knew which bone your fibula was. Everybody googled it. No one in the room with an awareness of our own body. Okay, let's move on to the next.

[Brady]

One. So for the team, the most famous team that was sitting on the outside of the AFC playoffs, the Kansas City Chiefs. That was my pick for Baby, it's cold.

[Katie Nolan]

Outside.

[Brady]

Okay. Because the Kansas City Chiefs. No team makes you less comfortable. No team invites more bad takes from people you don't want to hear takes.

[Katie Nolan]

From.

[Brady]

True. No team has more Harrison Butlers assigning hard stances on gender roles. They were once great, but they really don't belong here anymore in the playoff picture. Damn, the Chiefs are. Baby, it's Cold.

[Katie Nolan]

Outside. Damn. Okay, fine. Fair enough. Fair enough. Who else? What about the.

[Isabella]

Bills? Okay, so I actually came up with this one. I got no help. No.

[Katie Nolan]

Help. Let's hear.

[Isabella]

It. Okay, so last Christmas, the song, it's about heartbreak, basically. And so I was thinking, well, the Bills, they're always almost there, and then they don't, so. And they're.

[Katie Nolan]

Fancy. Last Christmas I gave you my heart and the very next day you gave it.

[Brady]

Away.

[Isabella]

Yeah. And so Bills fans are always.

[Katie Nolan]

Depressed. So there feels like Elaine. Like Elaine Griffin. Lane Griffin. Elaine Kiffin. Christmas song. Now that you know, right? Isabella that.

[Isabella]

Lands. That does.

[Brady]

Land. Why do you have heartbreak songs about.

[Katie Nolan]

Christmas? Well, because sometimes people get their heartbreak breaking around.

[Brady]

Christmas. Last one I had for the afc, is it currently in the playoff picture? The Los Angeles Chargers. And goddamn, I almost said San.

[Isabella]

Diego.

[Brady]

Go. The Los Angeles Chargers are fine. Their quarterback is good. But not great. He's dating a good but not great pop singer. They're two offensive tackles or their best players, and they're hurt. Their running backs hurt. Defense is good, but not great. They'll show up in the postseason. You'll see them there. It'll make sense. They'll lose. It'll make sense. And then you won't think about them again because you don't know any Chargers fans. They are. Let it snow. You'll hear let it snow, and you'd be like, that's cool. And then you won't hear it again. And you won't notice. You won't relapse. You won't be. You won't turn it on voluntarily. It's just.

[Katie Nolan]

There. I would say. See, for me, this is a little specific, but I would actually say they are the 12 days of Christmas because looking at their uniforms this weekend, much like the song, completely ruined by all the numbers. Why are there numbers on their helmets? Get that out of here. I hate.

[Brady]

That. Huh? I like the number on the.

[Katie Nolan]

Helmet. You.

[Chris]

Do?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I don't. It ruined the look for me. And so that's how I feel about the 12 days of Christmas. The numbers ruin it because you're like, I can't. What? I gotta keep track of how many. How many ladies dancing are there.

[Brady]

Brady?

[Katie Nolan]

Eight. I would have said nine. How many maids of milking are.

[Brady]

There? Nine maids of.

[Katie Nolan]

Milking. How many.

[Brady]

Swans? A swimming sevens. That one I'm definitely sure about because that one is.

[Katie Nolan]

Illiterate.

[Isabella]

Okay. Oh, yeah. How many golden.

[Katie Nolan]

Rings? Five. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that. Okay. What.

[Brady]

Else? Top seed in the nfc, the Chicago Bears. For some reason, they're all over your tv. And they specifically, they suspiciously look like something we've seen before. The Ben Johnson Lions of old. But the Ben Johnson Lions kind of looked better. Look like they did this better. I think I've seen a better version of this team. This one's not quite as good. It doesn't make as much sense, but damn it, they're trying. They're giving it the full effort. They're out there having fun. This is Leanne Rimes version of Rocking around the Christmas Tree. Or as Leann Rimes would sing it, rocking around the Christmas. No one rolls that R.

[Katie Nolan]

Harder. So you're saying it's a bad version of a good.

[Brady]

Song. It's a bad version of a good song, but damn it, the effort is.

[Katie Nolan]

There. This is so.

[Brady]

Disrespectful. Are you feeling like they're a Super Bowl.

[Katie Nolan]

Contender. I don't.

[Brady]

Know. Maybe you feel good about the.

[Katie Nolan]

Bears. I don't know who any of these teams are anymore. I'm very. This season of the NFL has me very confused. But I guess I could see them as LeAnn Rimes cover. No disrespect from me to LeAnn Rimes, who was a pivotal part of my coming of age thanks to Coyote Ugly and her contributions to that soundtrack. Dancing on that bar she cannot fight the moonlight. Okay, what else? This is going well, I.

[Brady]

Think. Los Angeles Rams leading their division, currently in the playoff picture in the NFC, led by Matthew Stafford, 37 years old, graying beard, hairline's kind of going wherever the hell. And he's cool with it. Mvp. Front runner right now. Like, he is the betting favorite to win the mvp. Old reliable. Absolutely. Still dominant. The Los Angeles Rams are. Nat King Cole's the Christmas Song. That thing slaps.

[Isabella]

Forever.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a great, a fantastic song. I'm just trying to compare it to Matthew Stafford in the Rams, who lost this.

[Brady]

Week. Still the betting favorite. Still. I checked it. It's like him, and it's him and Drake May and then everybody.

[Katie Nolan]

Else. That's.

[Brady]

Right. Front runners for it sure is. NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

Mvp. Okay, cool. What.

[Brady]

Else? Chris, you got the NFC East.

[Chris]

Eagles. I legitimately can't remember why we assigned oh Holy.

[Brady]

Night. I can tell you why we assigned O. Holy.

[Chris]

Night. That one. I was. I'm like, oh, God, I gotta remember, gotta remember, gotta remember. And we kept going down.

[Brady]

My. And I.

[Chris]

Gotta.

[Brady]

Nothing. They are with. They're leading the nfc, they're in the playoff picture. There is absolutely zero chill right now among Eagles fans. They are not having a good time. They are the most intense people on the planet. You listen to oh Holy Night. It is so goddamn on edge and intense. I feel.

[Katie Nolan]

Like. What do you.

[Brady]

Mean? I feel like Josh Groan is just.

[Katie Nolan]

Angry. Lightly shining. It is the.

[Brady]

Night. It's.

[Isabella]

Intense. It.

[Katie Nolan]

Is. It.

[Brady]

Is. Rogan's, like, on his, like, muscles tensed on his.

[Katie Nolan]

Toes. Yeah. All right. I would say like. Carol. Is that Carol of the.

[Brady]

Bells? I'd say if I could remember the name of that.

[Katie Nolan]

Song. I think it's Carol of the Bells. Trans Siberian Orchestra version of Carol of the.

[Brady]

Bells. I can tell you where Kevin McAllister is running, but I can't tell.

[Chris]

You the name of the.

[Katie Nolan]

Song. Yeah, but it has to be the Trans Siberian Orchestra version. That's like that, like, really loud one. That could be.

[Isabella]

The. Okay, so when I look up D, I think it's Ms. It says Carol of the.

[Katie Nolan]

Bells.

[Isabella]

Great. So I.

[Katie Nolan]

Think. I cannot believe that.

[Brady]

Worked. Quick story on Trans Siberian Orchestra. My wife and I went, like, 10 years ago. She had never heard of Trans Siberian Orchestra. I got tickets, and I failed to tell her at any point that this was not just an orchestra and it was actually going to be like a hair metal.

[Katie Nolan]

Show.

[Brady]

Wow. Did she kind of caught off guard, had a good time. Did not know what she was.

[Katie Nolan]

Getting. What is their big hit other than that Christmas.

[Brady]

Song? There's that one. There's Wizards. It's all Christmas.

[Katie Nolan]

Song. Like, I think they only Christmas. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know if it was.

[Brady]

Like, they only exist for two months a year, and then. I don't.

[Katie Nolan]

Know. They're probably just like a spirit Halloween. Yeah, pretty.

[Brady]

Much. The guys, I guess, have day.

[Katie Nolan]

Jobs. All right, let's do. Let's do the.

[Brady]

Buccaneers.

[Isabella]

Isabella. Okay, so I. This is what I needed help with Brady on. So I.

[Katie Nolan]

Was. It feels like maybe Brady wrote the whole segment and then told you guys what to say. Working theory that I'm working.

[Brady]

On. I did not. How dare you? No, this is a joint.

[Katie Nolan]

Venture. No, no. Totally. Totally. And so, Isabella, the Buccaneers are Charlie Brown Christmas. Why is.

[Isabella]

That? So? I think Charlie Brown Christmas is just good vibes. Okay. Every time it's there, it's like, I'm happy to hear it, you know, and nothing more, nothing less. And Brady said that the Buccaneers fit that, and that is because. Send it.

[Brady]

Over. Mayfield just constantly looks like he's having a good.

[Katie Nolan]

Time. Yeah, I love the Charlie Brown Christmas. Like, I think it's up there, higher up on my list than it is on most people's. It's perfect Christmas party music because it's same, like, background, but it sets a good vibe. But it's jazz, but it's Christmas. It's great.

[Isabella]

Actually. That's what I listen to on Christmas morning when we open.

[Katie Nolan]

Presents. Yeah, good. Yeah, it's a good. It's a really good one. And the Buccaneers are. Are.

[Brady]

Good. I said, chris, what's your favorite? What's your sneakiest NFC contender? And he took.

[Chris]

This. And Chris said, the Seahawks. I like the Seahawks. I think they. Their defense is phenomenal. I don't know if you saw what they did to Minnesota this weekend. Just looked dominant. They've got one of the best wide receivers in the league in Jackson, Smith and Jigba. He's been balling out this season. Sam Darnold's looking good. They're just a fun team that I think have enough power on both sides of the ball to really do a lot of damage. Right. And so they are one of my favorite teams not named the.

[Ad]

Patriots.

[Chris]

Thanks. Left in contention. And so the song that I chose for that was I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas. Because that's my favorite Christmas.

[Isabella]

Song. I'm sorry, I don't even know how that song.

[Katie Nolan]

Goes. Did you? I want a.

[Isabella]

Hippopotamus. Oh, my God, that's.

[Katie Nolan]

Christmas. I will say only a hippopotamus will do.

[Brady]

Perfect. Actually. Katie's.

[Katie Nolan]

Voice. Don't need rhinoceroses. Hippopotamuses. That's your favorite.

[Chris]

Song. I honestly believe most Christmas songs For me, five out of 10, I'm not a big Christmas music type of guy. I didn't really listen to Christmas music up until I started dating my wife. And then it got to December and she just religiously listens to Christmas music. Right. So I've sort of started getting into a little bit. I only really care for I Want a Hippopotamus for.

[Katie Nolan]

Christmas. The objectively worst Christmas song.

[Isabella]

Ever. It's.

[Katie Nolan]

Annoying. You can hear it once and then you're like, I'm.

[Chris]

Good. I.

[Katie Nolan]

Disagree. Oh, my.

[Chris]

God. That's the one. I will.

[Katie Nolan]

Actively. The kid is literally whining the.

[Chris]

Whole. I think she's got a great.

[Brady]

Place. It's not even a realistic ask. You cannot acquire this.

[Chris]

Legally. That's what's.

[Brady]

Fun. Where are you gonna put it, kid? You got a mud pit. You got a fenced in.

[Katie Nolan]

Enclosure. And so just to go back to the bit that I've really wavered on, you're saying that the Seahawks are this song because you like the Seahawks and you like.

[Chris]

This. You know, they are the team other than the pets, other than the first place pets that I want to spend the most amount of time with.

[Katie Nolan]

And you want to spend just one last time here. You want to spend the most amount of.

[Chris]

Time. It is my favorite Christmas.

[Brady]

Song. All right, Katie, I'm going to offer you this opportunity for a Yankee swap right now with the last NFC playoff contender. Would you like to swap I want a hippopotamus for Christmas with the Dallas Cowboys who have been assigned Ariana Grande's Santa.

[Katie Nolan]

Baby. Oh, why Ariana Grande's Santa.

[Brady]

Baby? Cause they don't deserve Eartha Kitt's Santa.

[Katie Nolan]

Baby. Oh, okay. Well, sure. Brady. This bit, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where we are in it. I don't know if you got buy in from anyone else. Participating in it. I want to believe in it. Let's do the rest of them. Are there any. Let's do. What's the packers.

[Brady]

Song? Brady packers song. They are the youngest team in the NFL. Average age of 25.1. Damn. They get it done. Little something for everyone. Little upbeat, little poppy. And if you told me they were the best team in the NFL at the end, I'd be like.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Alvin and.

[Brady]

Chipmunks. Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays by.

[Katie Nolan]

NSync. Oh.

[Brady]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Okay. Great. Great. Do you want to take the 49ers too, or should we pretend Chris did.

[Chris]

It? I did this.

[Isabella]

One. Chris did do that one.

[Chris]

Actually. I'll be home for Christmas because it seems like, you know, it's somewhere where they belong. They belong in the playoffs. They've been so good over the past, you know, handful of years. They've gone through a lot of adversity. They've gone through all these injuries, but they're still somehow getting it done. They'll be home. They're promising they'll be home for Christmas. That is where they belong. Despite all this adversity. They will.

[Katie Nolan]

Be. Doesn't that sound like they'd be not at the.

[Al Davis]

Playoffs? They'd be.

[Brady]

Home. Yeah. They'll be home in February.

[Chris]

Too. Good.

[Katie Nolan]

Point. Is that all the.

[Brady]

Teams. That was all the.

[Katie Nolan]

Teams.

[Brady]

Wow. Guys, we got a full playlist of the NFL.

[Katie Nolan]

Playoffs. I think people understand them better now, now that they've seen how they're all so clearly just like these Christmas.

[Brady]

Songs. And I think Chris understands Christmas songs better.

[Chris]

Now. We are going to get emails just about how I was correct about slalom. We're going to get people emailing.

[Katie Nolan]

Now. Here's the thing, Chris, as our email checker, we could be getting emails about how absolutely wrong you are. They're never making it into the.

[Brady]

Now. Is this cultural? Are there no Christmas songs in Australia.

[Chris]

Or. I don't think it's as.

[Katie Nolan]

Big.

[Chris]

Really? It's definitely not as big because only H. Every now and then, like, when you go to the shops, like, if you're wandering around the shops and you'll hear it.

[Katie Nolan]

The. The Christmas music. Why do you resent it so much? You have so much.

[Chris]

Anger. I honestly don't. I just think it's fine. I don't need to see the way he said.

[Isabella]

That. He's like, I just think it's a.

[Katie Nolan]

Season. I just think it's.

[Chris]

Fine. I love Christmas movies, but don't.

[Katie Nolan]

Really. Dare I ask one way or the other, I'm. We'll move on after this. Chris, what's your favorite Christmas.

[Chris]

Movie? Oh, Tokyo.

[Isabella]

Godfathers. Wait.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait. We have three chef stories. This segment's called yes, Chef. I'm taking back the reins. This segment's called yes, Chef. First one's loosely related. Megan Thee, stallion. I don't know if anybody saw this on Thanksgiving. She cooked a full Thanksgiving dinner for Klay Thompson's family this year, and how dare she? If I may so myself, posted a video of her doing the cooking. Now, maybe she had a sous chef or two, but doing the cooking, like, on the. At the stove, and then doing her makeup and getting ready, and it was just like, okay, so spaghetti, you're perfect. All the little lies I tell myself that make me feel a little better to be technically the same as Megan Thee stallion, when it comes to, like, type of, like, a human, adult human woman. We're supposed to have things in common. And I go, well, she's probably got chefs and she's got makeup artists. It's not like she's out.

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[Katie Nolan]

Oh. Cooking the Thanksgiving meal and also doing her own makeup and looking perfect and beautiful and being a.

[Brady]

Chef. Even made an herb compound butter for the turkey instead of just putting pats on it like a lazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Man. Clay said that she was a perfect 10 out of 10, which we all know and agree. And she said that she. Her motivation was that she's got to show them that she loves their son. These two are just pissing me off at this point. Like, we get it, you know, you're in love. God damn. My God, what a. By pissing me off and being sorry. I love them. They're. I love her. It's just mostly her. And he's been nice, and he went to bat for her in, like, Instagram comments about one thing. And. And that's fine. He's been fine. The bar's low. She's perfect again. I cooked corn casserole this year, so I. Who's to say that next year I'm not the Megan, the stallion of my family's Thanksgiving? You know what I.

[Isabella]

Mean? Who's to say that you're not already.

[Katie Nolan]

Now? Me, because I only cooked one.

[Isabella]

Thing. No, but just aside from Thanksgiving, right? In.

[Katie Nolan]

General.

[Isabella]

Yeah. You are the Megan Thee stallion of your.

[Katie Nolan]

Family. Oh, yeah, yeah. Totally. Wouldn't be my brother. I mean, I guess it could, but probably not. Next Chef story. Guy Fieri. Guy Fieri. I don't like saying Fieri aga. It doesn't. We're not doing Balenciaga. Okay. But I think we do have to do Fieri, it seems what we're supposed to say, he's in a wheelchair right now because he slipped down a set of stairs. Shout out.

[Chris]

Tracy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is this the Tracy that you mentioned? Like a. Oh, who's like two.

[Isabella]

Ago in the show Gets.

[Katie Nolan]

Wild? Oh, yeah, yeah. My uncle's.

[Chris]

Wife. Now it's starting to. It's the whole.

[Katie Nolan]

Picture. The whole thing is adding up. Isn't.

[Chris]

It? So.

[Katie Nolan]

Hilarious. I know, I know. He slipped down a set of steps while filming Flavortown Food Fight, which I assume is a.

[Chris]

Show.

[Brady]

Yes. I think it's an organized competition, like a food.

[Katie Nolan]

Network. He explained on Monday that, quote, one foot went forward and the other foot got caught on the threshold during his fall, which tore his quad muscle in half. When the 57 year old was rushed to the hospital, the doctor told Fieri he hadn't seen a comparable injury in the quote, biggest, thickest part of the leg through his 20 years on the.

[Isabella]

Job. Dude, Flavortown Food Fight gets.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy. I mean, a food fight. You shouldn't be going downstairs in a food fight. There's too much sauce to be accounted for. Yeah. At any given.

[Brady]

Moment. I love. They still referred to Guy Fieri's leg as like a turkey leg. Like the biggest, meatiest, juiciest. Guy Fieri.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Guy Fiefi. That's how it's gonna be from now on, is Guy Fiefi. Also just goes to show if Guy Fiefi had been hammered, drunk and loose when he fell down the stairs, less likely to tear stuff. That's what I learned from this is if you. If your body's just kind of unable to hold any tension in it because it's holding so much wine, you won't hurt yourself. You'll actually bounce physically right back from it into the wall, but you'll bounce right back and then you'll. I think sprained ankle was all she ended up actually having to deal with the next, next day. Although put her in the.

[Brady]

Tent. I also imagine that Guy Fieri falling and tearing a muscle sounds exactly the same as him eating a brisket. Just the guttural sounds that come out of his mouth. Having heard them so many.

[Katie Nolan]

Times, man, that's wild. Ripped his quad muscle in half. Absolutely brutal. Absolutely on the pup list. And then our last chef story is about Martha Stewart, famously a chef and I guess homemaker, though that feels like an outdated term I'm only using because when I go home for the holidays, we watch game. Like old game shows, we watched a lot of Supermarket Sweep this Time. And in it, when they go, what do you do for a living? 90% of the women were like, I'm a homemaker. And I was like, that's.

[Brady]

Wild. My favorite part of Supermarket Sweep is watching the gymnastics they do to describe lesbian.

[Katie Nolan]

Relationships. Oh, yeah, she's my neighbor and close, close.

[Brady]

Friend. She's my roommate of 19.

[Katie Nolan]

Years. We have roommates. Yeah, yeah. It's very true. Anyway, Martha Stewart is replacing Sydney Sweeney. She is the new face of American Eagle's latest denim campaign. The lifestyle icon, that's how you say homemaker in 2025 is in the company's new seasonal ads appearing in Head to toe denim and wearing diamonds as part of its Give great Jeans holiday campaign. Can I just ask, poll the crowd here. When have. Have you ever owned a pair of American Eagle.

[Brady]

Jeans? No, no, I.

[Katie Nolan]

Have. If I have, it was in seventh.

[Brady]

Grade.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I haven't thought about American Eagle jeans since. It's just crazy to me how much money is being spent trying to get me to think of American Eagle as a. As a place I go for jeans. And instead it's just making me go. It's making it a place I go to be confused by their ad.

[Brady]

Campaigns.

[Katie Nolan]

But. Yeah, but. All right, so she. And now is it. Is it her? Is the commercial her with vocal fry buttoning her pants and talking about white supremacy, or is it something else a little different? Little.

[Isabella]

Different. It's in a.

[Chris]

Kitchen. I think.

[Isabella]

It'S. Or.

[Brady]

Something. Look how Martha is the convicted felon here and she's still the one coming out looking.

[Katie Nolan]

Better. So true.

[Chris]

Okay. It's more focusing on how it's. It's a good product to share and to gift to people for the holidays. That's more the focus of this.

[Brady]

Campaign. And let's be honest, Martha Stewart at 84, if I have to point to one of the two of them as having good genes, I'm.

[Katie Nolan]

Like. Right, Good point. Same. It's actually a pretty good point. Did you say few? Like P H E W. Like few? Is that what you just said?

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[Katie Nolan]

Martha. Sounds like me.

[Isabella]

Crazy. Like.

[Katie Nolan]

Phew. Phew.

[Brady]

Yeesh.

[Katie Nolan]

Sheesh. Martha Stewart. Hot. Hotchymachi. Been doing it for.

[Isabella]

Me. Jesus.

[Katie Nolan]

Brady. Give great jeans is crazy. Given the, I don't know, controversy about the first one. That just really sounds like if you're giving somebody your jeans, you know what I mean? You're kind of just like a Martha Stewart cream pie. Okay. Do we have other. Do we. You know, like that you'd.

[Isabella]

Cook.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. You know, like that you'd cook. What did you guys think? I meant.

[Chris]

That. That exact.

[Katie Nolan]

Thing. Okay, let's let this feels like a good time for a break. When we come back, Chris is going to walk us through what to watch. If we want to watch some sports this week. Don't go anywhere. It's casuals. We'll be right.

[Isabella]

Back. It's the season to come together.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Isabella]

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[Chris]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Chris]

ETFs. Oh, that sounds easier than I.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

Details. And we're back. It's Tuesday, so Chris does me a huge favor here and he gathers all the sports that you can watch. If you wanted to watch some sports this week and you didn't know what to watch, Chris, I know you usually pull three. Is that what we this week as.

[Chris]

Well? We got.

[Katie Nolan]

Three. Great. Let's start with the first.

[Chris]

One. First one is the MLS cup final this weekend between Inter, Miami and.

[Katie Nolan]

Vancouver. We're at the.

[Chris]

Final. We're at the final. It's on Saturday, December 6th at 2:30pm Eastern. That game will be on Fox. You can watch that. Both teams are making their first MLS cup appearance. Now for casual soccer fans, the biggest reason I think to watch this matchup is Lionel Messi who plays for Into Miami. He has an MLS cup playoff record 13 goal contributions. And that also follows up from his performance in the regular season, where he won the MLS Golden Boot. So he is still performing at an incredibly high level. So this is a game that even casual soccer fans should tune in and check.

[Katie Nolan]

Out. Yes, especially because I. Just to make up for the fact I'm so embarrassed. Another MLS season over without me noticing it happened. What else do we have.

[Chris]

Chris? Formula One, the final race of the season is this Sunday, December 7th at 8:00am Eastern on ESPN. Three drivers still have a chance to win the championship. This is the closest race in a long while. Lando Norris is currently at first position in 408 points. Then Max Verstappen, who won this past weekend, he's on 396 points. And then Oscar Piastri in third with 392 points. It's going to come down to one of those three drivers is going to be a fascinating performance based on how Max is looking. So in the last, you know, couple of months, though, it's going to be. It's going to be tough to. To bet against him, I think. But that's going to be a huge race and it's just fun that we get to the final race of the season and there's still three guys who can. Who can win it. So check.

[Katie Nolan]

That. Where is that.

[Chris]

One? It's in Abu Dhabi, I.

[Katie Nolan]

Think. Oh, 8am I'll do it. I can do it. I can do 8am I can wake up and watch F1. And I'm gonna watch me. I will. I'm gonna do it. All.

[Chris]

Right. I bet you.

[Katie Nolan]

Will. What else? Last.

[Chris]

One. The Women's Collegiate Soccer Final Four is this week. So we got the Final Four games on Friday, the 5th of December. We've got the first game against between TCU and Florida State at 6pm and they can follow that up with Stanford versus Duke. That game will be at 8:45pm Eastern. And then. And we'll have the National Championship game on Monday, the 8th at 7pm Eastern. All of these games will be available on ESPNU. So if you want some women's collegiate soccer, make sure to check out those.

[Katie Nolan]

Games. Amazing. And we heard you. I believe we got an email or something that somebody said they listened in the car and then afterwards they want to go back and watch whatever Chris told them to watch, but they didn't, you know, write it down. So we're gonna put those in the description notes so that if you wanna go back and check those, you can. Because we hear you and we love you and we mean it. And on that note, that's it for the podcast this day, not this week, because clearly we've got another one coming on Thursday. But for your Tuesday pod folks, that's it. Thank you for listening. If you want to email us casuals with Katie nolanmail.com you can leave us a voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok, we are at Casuals the podcast. We love you, we mean it, and we'll see you back here on Thursday.

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