Mailbag! Red Sox Drama, Sports Crimes, and Baristas on Moral High Ground

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan: Mailbag! Red Sox Drama, Sports Crimes, and Baristas on Moral High Ground
Release Date: February 20, 2025

Casuals with Katie Nolan delivers a vibrant mix of sports discussions, humor, and listener interactions. In this special mailbag episode, host Katie Nolan and her team delve into a variety of topics ranging from Red Sox roster moves to bizarre sports-related crimes. Below is a detailed summary capturing the essence of the episode, complete with notable quotes and timestamps.

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Introduction to the Mailbag Episode

Katie Nolan kicks off the episode by introducing the mailbag format, explaining that the show has accumulated a plethora of listener questions waiting to be addressed.

Katie Nolan [00:00]: "We are doing a Mailbag episode today. There's so many good questions and I want to get to all of them."

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News Highlights

Before diving into listener questions, the team provides a quick rundown of the week's significant sports headlines.

1. Asia Wilson and Bam Adebayo Officially Dating

Celebratory news as two prominent figures in the sports world confirm their romantic relationship.

Katie Nolan [02:34]: "A round of applause for love. We love love and I love love that we can finally officially talk about."

2. Peter Mangione Joins FC Cincinnati Soccer

Peter Mangione, cousin of Luigi Mangione, secures a spot with FC Cincinnati, continuing the family’s athletic legacy.

3. Arrests Linked to Burglaries Targeting Athletes

Seven Chilean men were apprehended for orchestrating a series of high-profile burglaries aimed at the residences of professional athletes.

Brady [02:37]: "I offered to house sit for famous athletes. No one's Taking me up on it yet?"

4. Denver NWSL Team Name Vote Opens

The Denver NWSL team allows fans and the community to vote on their new team name, presenting options like Denver Gold FC, Denver Peak FC, and Colorado 14ers FC.

Katie Nolan [04:22]: "Some of them include your options... Colorado 14ers FC... Are we just tossing it at the end of any two words now?"

5. Dustin May's Unusual Injury

Dodgers pitcher Dustin May suffered a serious injury after swallowing a piece of lettuce wrong, resulting in a sliced esophagus.

Katie Nolan [08:09]: "Dustin May almost died eating a salad. He's a pitcher... swallowed a piece of lettuce wrong."

6. Justin Tucker Faces Sexual Misconduct Allegations

Baltimore Ravens kicker Justin Tucker is accused of inappropriate sexual behavior with multiple massage therapists, with allegations currently totaling sixteen.

Katie Nolan [08:52]: "Athletes are nuts about their bodies... any athlete seeing multiple massage therapists is a red flag."

7. Victor Wembanyama Out for the Season due to DVT

Spurs superstar Victor Wembanyama is sidelined for the remainder of the season after being diagnosed with deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder.

Katie Nolan [10:29]: "Victor Wembanyama... out for the season with deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder."

8. Boston Red Sox Sign Alex Bregman Amid Red Sox Drama

The Boston Red Sox secured Alex Bregman from the Houston Astros on a three-year contract. This move has sparked debates regarding the impact on Raphael Devers, the team's existing third baseman.

Katie Nolan [12:51]: "The Boston Red Sox signed Alex Bregman, which has stirred conversations about Raphael Devers' position and future with the team."

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Mailbag: Listener Questions and Discussions

The heart of the episode revolves around answering listener-submitted questions. The following sections encapsulate the main inquiries and the team's insightful responses.

1. Rooting for New Teams After Relocating

Question: Should you continue supporting your original team after moving to a new city, or should you pledge allegiance to a local team?

Katie Nolan [25:01]: "I think it's okay to be cautiously non-committal... you don't have to be a loud front-running fan. You can just root for them and see how it feels."

Discussion:
Listeners Elle and Ellie shared their dilemmas about supporting WNBA teams after relocation. The consensus suggests maintaining flexibility in fandom, possibly supporting multiple teams until establishing a strong connection with a new local team.

2. Understanding a Pick-Six in Football

Question: What is a pick-six in the Super Bowl context?

Katie Nolan [40:38]: "It's when you intercept a pass and take it all the way to the end zone for six points."

Discussion:
Katie breaks down the term "pick-six" to clarify its meaning, emphasizing its significance in scoring and game dynamics.

3. Championship Hope for Minnesota Sports Fans

Question: As a Minnesota fan, will I ever see my teams win a championship?

Katie Nolan [43:42]: "In your lifetime, I do think Minnesota's got it in them to pull it out... as long as the world continues, so long as every sport we currently root for continues successfully and remains legal."

Discussion:
Brady echoes optimism, drawing parallels with personal anecdotes and highlighting the importance of belief and team loyalty.

4. Pump-Up Songs: Personal Favorites

Question: What songs get you pumped up?

Katie Nolan [70:15]: "Plan B by Megan Thee Stallion is a personal favorite. Lately, I've been on a kick of Redman and Missy Elliott's 'That Bitch.'"

Brady [72:12]: "Hair metal like Kickstart My Heart by Mötley Crüe gets the blood pumping."

Discussion:
The team shares diverse musical tastes, ranging from hip-hop to hair metal and shoegaze, illustrating how music fuels their passion for sports and daily activities.

5. The Left vs. Right Side of the Bed Debate

Question: Which side is considered the left side of the bed—when looking from the foot or while lying in it?

Katie Nolan [77:34]: "If you're standing up looking at the bed, that's the left side. When you're lying in the bed, it's based on your position."

Brady [79:25]: "It's the left side when you're looking at the foot of the bed."

Discussion:
The team humorously navigates this common household debate, highlighting how personal habits and perspectives influence such perceptions.

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Conclusion

Katie Nolan wraps up the episode by expressing gratitude to listeners for their engaging questions and hinting at future mailbag sessions. She also addresses the absence of a former co-host, Ashley, clarifying the situation while maintaining an upbeat tone.

Katie Nolan [81:03]: "Thank you all for sending in your questions. This is the podcast called Casuals, and you can get it wherever you get your podcasts. We'll see you on Tuesday. Bye."

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This episode of Casuals with Katie Nolan masterfully blends current sports news with heartfelt and humorous listener interactions, making it a must-listen for both casual and ardent sports fans alike.

Transcript

[Katie Nolan]

Foreign. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that's like kind of about sports, but not in a way that's annoying. You know, it's like a little bit about sports, mostly just about being entertaining. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. Today on the show. It's a mailbag. Now, listen, listen. I wanted to wait until we were like an older podcast to dive into a mailbag. It just felt like you got to accumulate the audience, tell them what the show is, and then you can take a little break and do a mailbag. Here's the thing. Our mailbag was beyond full. Our email inbox. Our voicemail inbox. You guys have so many questions, and I think it's probably because, you know, we used to. I used to have a podcast where we would use a question every day. And then I went away for a couple years and I think a lot of people had questions just like saved up. And so it actually felt kind of mean of me to not do a mailbag. You guys have forced my hand. We are doing a Mailbag episode today. There's so many good questions and I want to get to all of them. As a reminder, if you have a question, you can email it to Casuals with Katie nolan gmail.com or you can leave us a voicemail at 646-801-0043. If you're on socials and you want to say nice things to us, we are at Casuals, the podcast. So those are all the ways you can reach us. Before we get to the mailbag, we're going to do kind of a hybrid yap meets, like a news rundown because there are a couple headlines that I think it is our duty as your sports podcast to let you know they're very quick. First and foremost, we have Asia Wilson and Bam Adebayo have officially confirmed that they are dating. So a round of applause for love. We love love and, and I love love that we can finally officially talk about. So shout out to them who seem like two very cool people who are very attractive and very talented at basketball. We look forward to seeing what's happening there. This one, Luigi Mangion's cousin, right? Peter Mangione, is. Has been called up to FC Cincinnati Soccer. So families got shooters. People were arrested for. They arrested seven Chilean men for their alleged roles in a string of high profile burglaries targeting the homes of professional athletes. Did you guys see this? Producers of mine, dear friends of mine.

[Brady]

I offered to house sit for famous athletes. No one's Taking me up on it yet?

[Katie Nolan]

That's a good idea. It is crazy. You know, when they talk about cyber security, one of the things they always say is like, you know, don't tell people when you're going on vacation. Don't post about it because then any robbers will know that your house is empty. And true. Truly. The first thing I always thought of when I heard that was like, well, then what do athletes and famous people do? Because we know when there's an away game, it's pretty famously announced and often televised. So turns out I was right. And, and. And gangs are. Are focusing on. Or crime rings are focusing on athletes when they're away and. And stealing stuff. Didn't they get caught because they were like, taking selfies of themselves? I mean, guys, we gotta stop doing that. You have to stop doing that. You can't. I get it. Pixar. It didn't happen. But like, as far as the official record goes, when. When what it is, is a crime, you need it to seem like it didn't happen. So the, the pics are a bad. I. It's actually called evidence. And I wouldn't. I don't think you should take them. I think that's a hilarious way to get caught, though, to just be so proud of yourself and want to take a picture with. Whose was it that they took a picture with?

[Brady]

Bobby Portis's stuff from the. From the Milwaukee Bucks.

[Katie Nolan]

They were like, gotta take a picture with this. And then we gotcha so bad. Stop doing that. Denver NWSL team. They're opening it up to a vote. So if you live in Denver or if you have an opinion on the Internet. So that covers everybody. You can go vote on the new NWSL team name for. For Denver. Some of them include your options. Denver Gold FC, Denver Peak FC, CO 14ers FC. Anyone have an explainer on what that is?

[Brady]

Yeah, I think it's 14,000ft. I think that's like the top of like the Colorado mountains. I think it's 14,000ft.

[Katie Nolan]

That's. But I don't. But that's. I mean, we call it mile high, right? And that's 5,280ft. So you're telling me that actually that's.

[Brady]

Like the Bush league mountains in Denver.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, they keep going, oh, you're so. Okay.

[Brady]

Do we have a Colorado? And we can.

[Katie Nolan]

14Ers is a terrible name. We can all just agree before I move on to the next one.

[Brady]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Denver fc. Wow, that's. There's that. Colorado Summit fc. I don't Hate and Denver Elevate fc. Are we just. Okay, I get it. That FC sounds cool. Okay. I love it. I love that. I love it so much. I famously told Chapel Roan that she should. She's Pink Pony fc. But I think that. Are we just tossing it at the end of any two words now? Nobody's not an fc. It's like, you could just be, like, Colorado Summit. You don't have to be Colorado Summit fc. Are we just.

[Brady]

I just think, like, there are six options here, and five of them are just about mountains.

[Katie Nolan]

That's kind of Colorado Bag.

[Brady]

It's like, we do. Can we get, like, a second thing?

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Brady]

We get a new plant.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And as the guy proposing this idea, what would that be? Brady, I have been out there.

[Brady]

I know when you fly into Denver, you don't see mountains until you leave the airport.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, I thought I saw them.

[Brady]

You know, it's. It's like, not in the mountains. So you fly in, you're like, all right, great.

[Katie Nolan]

What else do you have here? So number one thing about Denver is mountains. And then you would say, brady, the number two thing about Denver is number two thing.

[Brady]

I recognize there are so many bike lanes.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe that doesn't. Bike Lane FC soccer team. Yeah. I don't think Bike Lane FC is going to hit.

[Brady]

The number three thing they were recognized for is kind of legal everywhere.

[Katie Nolan]

Really?

[Brady]

Their thing anymore.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. So the Denver smoke, I think of these options, I think Colorado Summit, I don't hate. Is that crazy of me to not hate that? I just don't hate it. Denver, I don't know. These are fine. Does anybody feel enthused by any of these?

[Brady]

I don't think they're different enough. Like, it's hard to vote on them. Like, it's hard to vote one or the other. You've given us six options and five more. The same.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Like, I could do really with most of them because they're all. Except Colorado 14ers FC. That's a sentence. It's a clunky sentence. It's not. It doesn't. That doesn't do it for me. Colorado 14ers FC.

[Chris]

What about going back to the weed suggestion? Colorado Grass fc. Because at least grass marijuana, grass soccer, you play on a pitch with grass. So you've still got that soccer terminology sort of.

[Katie Nolan]

Great. Okay, and then. And then.

[Isabella]

Okay, and then grass is weed.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, good. Isabella, thank you for the connection. Thank. I was. I couldn't put two or two together, but you've made it four for me. That's The. I could see that happening. That could make sense. But, you know, okay, so go vote.

[Chris]

That's a no from you. Let's be honest.

[Katie Nolan]

That's a no from you. Just no. It's fine. I just know people will be pearl clutchy about it. I don't know. We live in this weird society where you can do a lot of crazy stuff and everyone's like, you have to let them do that. That's fine. But for some reason, if you bring up weed, everybody's like, nah, that's not gonna name a team after weed. It's like, at this point, why not? What else, what else, what else? Dustin May did. We want to talk about how Dustin May almost died eating a salad. He's. He's on what, the Dodgers? Brady, right? Dustin May. He's a pitcher. Redhead, Right. And he apparently was eating a salad and he swallowed a piece of lettuce wrong. And it sliced his esophagus. He said it hurt at first, and then he had to, like, go. He thought he was fine when it stopped hurting. Turns out he wasn't. It was, like, really bad. Am I summing this up well, Brady?

[Brady]

Yeah. Yeah. Salads can kill you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. That is my takeaway, and I'm sorry that it is. But that's why you won't catch me eating salad, because I don't.

[Brady]

It's like, a serious esophageal surgery this man had to undergo cost him most of last year as he was, like, coming back from elbow surgery.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Isn't that nuts to come back from a surgery on the thing? You use a lot in your sport and be, like, ready to go, and then all of a sudden you get sidelined by a salad. That would upset me a lot because it's like, I knew I should have gotten the burger.

[Brady]

Pitchers used to be fat guys with mustaches and you never heard about salad related injuries?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, we never had. We never had to worry about this. They had never seen a green in their lives.

[Brady]

Goose Gossage did not get taken down by a piece of romaine.

[Katie Nolan]

Look, Justin Tucker's name has been on this doc for, like, five episodes in a row. Justin Tucker, the longtime kicker of the Baltimore Ravens, who has now been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior with massage therapists in the Baltimore area. More therapists have since come forward. The total allegations currently stand at 16. I just want to say athletes are nuts about their bodies. We know that. It's one of the only things we know is that, like, athletes take their bodies really, really seriously to the point where like, when they find a guy who helps or a woman who helps them figure out their body, they, like, hold on to that person, often to the detriment of their relationship with their own team, because they really know that this person knows their body and will take care of it. So knowing that, just hearing that any athlete is seeing multiple massage therapists makes me go, hmm. It's like an obvious red flag to me. And I'm just saying that to people who go, belle, the women lie, okay? There. In any other context, you'd go, why would an athlete need that many different massage therapists? Normally, you find one, and then you don't trust anybody else with your body. So that's all I'm going to say about that. Okay. This breaking right now. Chris just said Wemby out for the season. Chris, what's. What is up?

[Chris]

Yeah, Victor Wembanyama, the Spurs superstar, the alien is out for the season with deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a thing I've only ever heard about if I'm honest, when I'm flying. And funny enough, Chris, I really only learned about it when I first flew to Australia. Because they say if you are on a flight for a really long time, something about the way your blood moves through your veins. Question mark. You gotta, like, keep getting up and, like, massaging your legs and moving around, because it's, like, not good for your body to be up that high for that long. This is. I'm. This isn't because he's tall, right?

[Chris]

I have no idea whether there's any correlation between being tall and getting deep vein thrombosis. I'm not even gonna pretend I understand, but that's scary. Seemed to have come out of nowhere. The condition was diagnosed this week after Wemby returned from the All Star Game.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh. So maybe that's why he didn't take any shots. Maybe something they should have thought about before they disqualified him for following the letter of the law.

[Chris]

There we go.

[Katie Nolan]

Also, as a. As a woman marrying a hypochondriac who flies a lot, I do hate whenever DVT comes up in the news, because now I know for the next four weeks, every time Dan takes a flight, he's gonna go, my legs are. And funny. I. I think I've got that dvt. And he does. He doesn't. He doesn't. But then one day, he. He will. And then I'll be like, see? I told you. But he doesn't. You don't, babe. You don't. Also get up and walk around then. Anyway, Wemby, that's a bummer. That's a real bummer. And yeah, it sucks. Very sorry to hear that. Okay, the real thing I wanted to yap about, but again, we have a lot of stuff to get to, so I do not think we have like yap time is the Alex Bregman, Raphael Devers situation in Boston. So to give a quick treetops of this story, the Boston Red Sox signed Alex Bregman, former Houston Astro third baseman, one of the most coveted free agents on the market. This off season, the Boston Red Sox signed him. Right. Cool. Three year contract. He plays third base. So does the Red Sox best player, Raphael Devers. Devers, who the Sox only a year or two ago paid a bunch of money to. Now, as a Red Sox fan, let me give you just a quick background. Mookie Betts, what year was that?

[Brady]

Brady, he's been there five years. Let's do the math. Bet this is the sixth year for Mookie, so 2020.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that feels right. A lot went on that year. Mookie Betts was like a beloved star of the Red Sox who left to go to the Dodgers to get more money. And a lot, a lot of Red Sox fans were really devastated by this. We thought Mookie was going to be ours forever. He was such a rising star. He was always good. As you can see, he's still good for the Dodgers. So that was like a real problem within the. For a lot of Red Sox fans, the Mookie situation. Then you had Xander Bogarts, another player that we really loved and wanted to keep around. And the Red Sox sort of didn't want to pay him. He left and went to the Padres. Then Des, our third baseman, one of the lone bright spots on the team over the last few seasons, like consistently great, more offensively than defense. Right. He's a better hitter than he was a third baseman. But he had gotten better. I know he had led the league in errors a couple times and he led third baseman in errors a couple times. But he had gotten better. And couple years ago people were like, now Des is going to leave. Devers is going to be the next to leave. They're not going to pay Devers. To everyone's surprise, they did pay Devers a lot of money. A 10 year contract and a lot of money. And I believe because it was an extension, it kicked in with the 2024 season. So that's one year of that. Right. So he's got nine more years left on this contract. And then the Red Sox sign Alex Bregman. And most of the reaction I saw was everybody being like, hell yeah, let's go. The Red Sox sign a top free agent. And I get that. And I do love that. I want to be clear, I love the Red Sox spending money and getting a guy that everybody wanted. I think that's fantastic. Now, I am not a huge fan of the Houston Astros. Let's not get into that. But I got beef with that team. It stems from when I worked in baseball and just I saw the mean fans of every fan base and their mean fans are the meanest. And so I do not like them. And I'm sorry, but that's just how it is. So I already had pause because this guy's from the Astros, but I'm willing to look past that. But the first thing I said was like, well, wait, he's a third baseman and the only position we know we have is a third baseman. And I watched as a lot of people pulled the numbers and said, you know, Devers isn't a good third baseman. So obviously we're going to put Bregman at third base. And Brady, would you say that's like the general consensus is that everybody thought when Bregman signed, Bregman will start at third base and Devers will move to dh.

[Brady]

Yeah. So it comes down to who's better on defense because ultimately they're both going to be in the lineup. So if we're talking about defense, Bregman won the Gold Glove last year as the best defensive third baseman in baseball. First base is easier than third base. DH is easier than first base. You don't even have to, you don't have to field if you're dh. So yeah, it makes sense that if you have the best third base in the American League, everybody's kind of assumed, yeah, let's bring him in to play third base. Like, let's, let's bring him in to do the thing that we know he's the best at.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure, that makes sense to you now. Speaking through an interpreter, the three time allstar Raphael Des said on Monday, third base is my position. It's what I play. I don't know what their plans are. We had a conversation. I made it clear on what my desires were. Whatever happens from here, I don't know. Then when asked whether he would be willing to become a designated hitter. Sorry, by the way, that's what DH is, designated hitter. Which means they don't play the field, they just hit. Devers said no. Without waiting for his interpreter to relay the question. So, as Brady said, the general consensus has been like, dude, Devers kind of sucks at third base. So obviously you let the Gold Glove guy play third base. And I have to say, I'm on Dever's side, like, fully on Dever's side. I understand that the numbers say that this is a better third baseman, but like you just told this guy one year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, let's call it two years ago, that he's good enough to be their third baseman for 10 years, you paid him a lot of money to be your third baseman. For a sport where I can't call the guy in charge of the players, the coach, I have to call him a manager. This feels like pretty poor management of a situation. You have an employee who, again, and this is where I come from as a fan, that I think everything has shifted to numbers. And I know obviously numbers don't lie, but, like, I'm not the manager. I'm a fan. And as a fan, I love Raphael Devers. That's why I was happy to see us sign him for 10 years. And as a fan, I would like my team to do a better job of keeping Rafael Des happy. Because now everybody's talking about Devers being open to going somewhere else. And I understand why he feels that way because, like, go get a second basement, Go get a right field, Go get a position. You didn't just, he was the highest paid player on our team. And then you go and pay more for a guy who plays the same position. Of course he's going to be demotivated by that. And for him to say, I don't know what their plans are, that he had a conversation and they made their desires clear. To me, it's like, this seems like such an obvious thing to say to him. Like, hey, look, you'll start the season at third base. Here are clear benchmarks, here are numbers we need you to hit. And if defensively you're not living up to this by clear date that we set, I don't know when that is. Again, I'm not the manager, but you'd say, like, look, dude, we want to keep you at third base. You've been great to us, but this guy's really good at third base, you can, we're going to give you a shot, but if you don't hit these numbers by this time, you got to go, you got, we got to pull you. You're going to be dh, but we want you on the team. We love you. You know, we love you. We're paying you all this money for all these years. And I'm just. Everybody's like, des is being difficult. He's got to be dh. And I'm like, what? Where. What happened to, like, the fans? The fans who like Raphael, Des, we just don't care anymore. We're just like, yeah, the boss can tell him you suck at this. He's gotten better. I. Test wise, I'm not like, watching socks games and going like, God, Devers sucks. I've never had that thought within the last few years. I've never been like, oh, my God, Devers. I mean, I've had it about literally everybody else on the team at some point, but, like, this was supposed to be our guy. We love this guy. And now we're just going to tell him to move over because a new guy's here. Doesn't sit right with me. Brady, does that make no sense to you?

[Brady]

There's a couple things in play. The Red Sox, yeah, fans have been pissed that they haven't spent money. You know, you went through bets and bogarts. They had a shot to, you know, spend some money and. And become a better team this off season. They have good, young players. They had some available budget. The thing is, like, Bregman just signed two weeks ago. Bregman was kind of, you know, that's late in the off season, like spring training, starting Red Sox basically. Like, Bregman was there when the lights came on at the bar. Like, Bregman was the guy who's like, oh, we've struck out on everybody else. We haven't signed anybody. I guess we can throw a ton of money at Alex Bregman, and it kind of. It's just not. It's not a puzzle piece that fits. So you can hang that on Red Sox management even above, like, not having a conversation with Devers. It's just like, you didn't get the guy that fit. You didn't get the guy that really fits your team. Now you have to try to make all these things fit because, you know, you didn't think this through or struck out with, you know, the first 12 free agents you hit on. I also think that, like, there's. There is a lot of underlying resentment here with the Astros still, like, the players who are on the Red Sox still, like, can't get over eight years ago that Alex Bregman cheated to win the World Series. Like, that's. That's really a hard thing for ballplayers to get over, and especially if it's like the new guy that's showing up. It's like we brought in Alex Bregman. Ignore the fact that, like, he was a part of the Astros. Shows that, you know, part the anybody from the Astros gets painted with that now. Like, you bring in the guy that was a part of, you know, in 2017, the Astros were had a camera on the catcher and were on the other team's catcher. And we're banging a trash can loudly to tell their own batters whether a fast.

[Katie Nolan]

They're gonna be mad at you. They're gonna be mad at you for bringing this up. They do not like when you bring this up. And they're gonna be there.

[Brady]

They're gonna take a generation for this to wash away.

[Katie Nolan]

They're gonna bring up even the Red Sox cheated and that the Yankees cheated and that Cora's got dir and they're gonna bring all that up. And I don't want to get into any of that. And it's my podcast. I just want to say, Raphael Devers, I love you. I love you.

[Brady]

Players change positions all the time.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Brady]

Something that happens all the time. There's another reason. There has to be something else that is like, Devers is like, all right, maybe, but not for that guy.

[Katie Nolan]

Manage his expectations. Manage the expectations of your star player. Do not devalue your second highest paid player for the sake of your number one highest paid player. That's terrible planning. That's like, I get it. You needed to make a splash. This was the only splash that you were able to make. You made it at the last minute. It doesn't fit right. But like, don't immediately go like, what a dick. This guy won't stop playing the position he's been working hard at getting better at and was named the starting all star third baseman a couple times. Don't now go like, well, you can't do that anymore because you suck at it. Like, even if that's where we're ultimately going to go, give him numbers to hit and if he doesn't hit him, then do it. But like, this is. This seems nuts to me, but what do I know? Let's get into this mailbag. Guys, you have so many good questions. You have so much to talk to us about. We're going to go through this as a team. As a reminder, the team, you haven't really got to like, meet them a ton. But we have Isabella. Isabella, say hi.

[Isabella]

Hi.

[Katie Nolan]

We have Brady, who you just heard from. He's like, you know, baseball guy.

[Brady]

That's me. Baseball guy.

[Katie Nolan]

And then. And then, of course, our favorite accent to listen to. We have Chris.

[Chris]

Hello, everyone.

[Katie Nolan]

That's Chris. Chris is gonna. Chris, do you feel like we have some voicemails, some emails. I thought it would be good that for the emails, you know, I could read them, but I think we'd all rather you read them. Do you feel objectified if I say that to you, or are you comfortable filling that role?

[Chris]

No, I know that's the only reason I got this job was because of my voice felt.

[Katie Nolan]

So the only reason.

[Chris]

That's the only reason.

[Katie Nolan]

The only reason I was gonna make an inappropriate joke and I chose not to. And so I want everyone to recognize personal growth before we get into the mailbag. I know I've said that 15 times, but this one's genuinely quick and it's mailbag related. We have some honorable mentions. Brianna and Jack. Congratulations. And I hope your wedding is everybody's favorite party. Your email made me cry, and I just wanted to say congratulations. I'm so happy to hear you guys are getting married. And then also Jack. And now I'm realizing this might be the same Jack, but Jack emailed a great question about volleyball having three leagues. And the answer is I don't really have a good answer for it. So I did want to say shout out to Jack for your really good question. It was really insightful, and I'm not feeling particularly insightful today. So thank you for asking it, but I don't have a good answer for you. And so we skip it. One topic that we get we got a lot of mail about was sort of the idea of rooting for a team and moving to a new place. Do you root for a team where the new. Where your new home is? Are you required to root for your old team? Let's start with Chris. Why don't you play the voicemail from Elle?

[Nick]

Hey, Katie and company. This is Elle calling from Massachusetts. I am a die hard basketball fan. I'm obviously a die hard Celtics fan. But my whole life, even though I have followed women's basketball, I have felt no real connection to any WNBA team. So growing up, the sun weren't even in Connecticut, so I was a Liberty fan. Which feels wrong to cheer for a team from New York. Like it feels morally corrupt. And then I started cheering for the sun. But with this past week where they got rid of all of the players, I'm just not feeling so good about it. So I'm wondering, what's your take? Should I just totally jump ship and cheer for the Valkyrie? Should I Stick with the sun and hope that they get a great draft pick. Do I keep my fingers crossed that Boston actually get to WNBA team because we all want one here. I don't know. What do you think? Would love your. Would love your thoughts. So glad that you're back. Love you.

[Katie Nolan]

Mean it, Elle. I love you and I mean it. Thank you for calling. We also got an email from an Ellie about the same thing. I'm from Philadelphia. There's no PWHL team yet. She lives in Boston now and she's rooting for the Boston fleet. She said, do I. Is that okay? We also got one from Kyle who was a big San Diego Wave fan, but he doesn't live in San Diego anymore, lives in Utah and wants to switch allegiances and wondered if it was a good enough excuse because the waves former front office had all those problems. Here's my thing. And. And I'll. I specifically relate to L from Massachusetts because she's from Massachusetts and I'm not die hard Celtics. But I. I celebrate the Liberty like they're my team. This most recent, like that's. I. I felt like it would connect me to New York. I have no New York teams I root for. I live here, so I felt like that's my New York team. But she makes a good point. It does feel weird to be from Massachusetts and root for anything New York. And it specifically feels weird because the Liberty are good and bandwagoning a New York team as a person who represents Boston feels wicked icky. So when I met Natalie Nakase, the new coach of the Valkyrie Golden State Valkyrie, she made a really good sales pitch. She like pitched me pretty hard on being a Valkyrie fan and she gave me merch. And I feel like, I hate to admit this, but if you're gonna give me merch, that's like half the battle. I don't even have to go acquire that myself. Plus, your colors are purple and black. Those are cool colors. So here's what I. Here's what I think. And I think this replies to anybody who asked this question. I think it's okay to be like cautiously non committal to sort of be in like our situationship era with teams that you're like, look, I can root for the Liberty and the Valkyrie and let them know about each other. Like, I'm not exclusive. And then if and when hopefully Boston gets their own W WNBA team, we all know that's where I'm going, right? It's like I'm waiting for this, for this to arrive, but until then, let's have some fun. You know, that makes sense to me. I think you can like root for a team that's around you without making it your whole personality. You can just root for them. You just go to games. You can be interested in their fandom. And maybe if in the time before Boston gets their WNBA team or whatever sport it is you're thinking about, if you become like really committed and into the fan base, if you're like, wow, I really like the way these people are, then then fine, you, you fall in love with you go marry them. But like, I, I think it's okay to be like kind of non committal and just root for the teams and, and give everybody sort of a, a chance. You know, date teams for a second. Why is that? Let's normalize that. Does anybody disagree with me?

[Brady]

I don't disagree with you, but I do dis. I do disagree with the concept of jumping ship frequently. So I think, yes, date, but don't serial date.

[Katie Nolan]

Did I say be a slut? I don't think I did. We're not. You know what?

[Isabella]

Just, just, just team hop. Why not?

[Katie Nolan]

Who cares, right?

[Isabella]

You're trying to figure it out. You won't know who you like.

[Katie Nolan]

You got to learn you. Learn you.

[Brady]

The problem is that if you're right only riding the highs of a team, then you're not doing the full fan.

[Katie Nolan]

No one said to ride highs for the team. Is that what I said? Did I say that I loved rooting for the Liberty because they just won, or did I actively say that it's uncomfortable to feel like you're bandwagoning a team? I'm saying you don't have to be like a loud front running fan. You can just like root for them and see how it feels. And if you like the way it feels, cool. And if you don't root for somebody else, you are your own person and you're allowed to do whatever you want to do and don't let anybody shame you. Find what resonates with you and that's your team. Let's Chris hear our next email.

[Chris]

All right, this is from Emily. And Emily says, I have a funny story for you. I once ran into a bachelor party in Newport, Rhode island, where the entire group was wearing matching T shirts featuring the bride to be's mugshot. Naturally, I had to ask the groom what happened. His response in the most New England way possible. Do you want to say this, Katie? In the most New England way possible?

[Katie Nolan]

She was arrested for streaking at Fenway.

[Chris]

There you Go. So that got me thinking. If you had to get arrested for doing something wild in support of your favorite sports team, what would it be? Personally, I think mine would be sneaking out a stadium seat from a venue about to be demolished or helping carry off a goal post and tossing it in a river.

[Katie Nolan]

Fantastic question. A fantastic question that immediately draws to mind a lot of imagery for me. It's tough. Those are really good answers. I also. This is an adorable pet peeve. Like, I'm not mad. I think it's funny when people email or call a question and then they give the two best answers to it and you're like, well, now, could you. Would it have killed you to give one answer, Emily. So that maybe we could have the other one? Both fantastic answers. I think it would be. I want to get, like, dragged away in a paddy wagon. I don't. Oh. As I'm saying that, I just realized, like, is that an offensive term? It's just what you. What we call when the cops have, like, a van and they have to.

[Chris]

Like, call it a divvy van.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Is. Can somebody Google to make sure that what I'm saying isn't some sort of a slur of some type? I just. It's. Sometimes in Boston, you call something something, and then you learn where it came from and you're like, oh, well, sick. I didn't even mean to be hateful. But the, The. You know, those.

[Brady]

Yes, correct. It is a slur against the Irish damage.

[Katie Nolan]

But I'm Irish. Right. But I'm Irish, so I feel like. Do I get a pass?

[Brady]

You can say it.

[Katie Nolan]

Whatever. The. Bleep it if you must.

[Nick]

Whatever.

[Katie Nolan]

The giant. Whatever. We're supposed to call those giant vans that haul off, like, massive amounts of people at once because of the fact that they've flipped a car over or they've, you know, they're rioting in the streets from a win. I remember when the. The Bruins won the Stanley cup, the people were climbing, like, outside of the bar that I was bartending at, people were climbing up on, like, the. The lamp posts. And I feel like that I'd want to get, like, pulled off one of those and put into a. Like a. Imagine the communal experience. Experience of a BLEEP wagon. The communal experience of, like, you and a bunch of people who are also, like, having a sports high at the moment. Imagine the songs you sing, the stories you tell, the friendships, the lifelong bonds you form in the back of a BLEEP wagon. To me, I think seems like a really fun time.

[Brady]

The communal Experience of a good old fashioned college basketball riot is a special one.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, that is true. Like a court storming.

[Brady]

No court storming, but then one that just takes it all the way through campus. When I was at the University of Maryland, we won the ACC championship, and that was good enough for us. There was lots of taking to the streets because it wasn't even a home game, like this is. We're off of the tournament. But there was taking to the streets. There were people who are heavily intoxicated, committing minor crimes together in unison, chanting at the intersection of Route 1 and Knox Road. There was a burning effigy of a cardboard Dick. Vital at one point because Dick had been a Duke supporter that year. There are people on roofs, people on light posts. There was a wall of police slowly moving down the street and then fans holding fast and chanting, defense, defense. And it was. It was very unifying as people, because we were like, they can't arrest us.

[Katie Nolan]

All right?

[Brady]

They'll arrest some of us and those people won't have a good time. But it really, really was one that cemented fanhood. It really brings people together, you know, the. The ones that didn't make it into the bleep wagon.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, I think that would be. I mean, I certainly don't want to get in trouble for, like, eating horse poop, you know? Certainly. Certainly not. I mean, remember in Philly when they ate when. I don't think he got arrested, but he certainly ate. I was gonna say.

[Brady]

Is that a crime? I don't know enough punishment on its own.

[Isabella]

It's a crime against yourself.

[Katie Nolan]

Exactly. As a whole, I just think. And maybe the horse, that feels a little bit like a violation, but I just is, you know, it should be a crime. Make horse poop illegal again. A great question, Emily, and thank you for asking it. Let's move on to our next one. Chris, what do we got?

[Nick]

Hi, Katie Nolan and the Casuals crew. This is Luke from Texas. Loving the podcast. Here's my question. So I'm getting into the NFL and I don't want to choose Texas teams because I've had to deal with their annoying fans my whole life. I'm going out of state. My dad raised me partially as a Dolphins fan. He's a fan from the 70s. So I'm reclaiming the Dolphins partly because I think it's funny to choose a team that hasn't won a Super bowl in 50 years or a championship in 40. I like McDaniel as the coach. I think it's cool that he's the first Madden coach. But what do I say back to all the people who are giving me tons and tons of grief? Goodness, it's hard not to curse tons and tons of grief about choosing such a terrible team. I'm simple. I like the colors of the mascot.

[Brady]

Help me out here.

[Nick]

Give me some ammunition to talk back to the haters. Go Dolphins.

[Brady]

Love y'all.

[Nick]

And looking forward to the podcast.

[Katie Nolan]

Thanks, Luke. I really appreciate that you didn't curse. And you're right, it is hard because tons and tons of grief is something I think I've heard my grandparents say, but have never in fact said myself. But I do. I think that's the best substitution for the word that you wanted to say and I appreciate it. I'm gonna say something controversial and I. And don't use this against all women. I'm speaking for myself. There is no problem with liking a team first, like your entry point, because you like their colors and their mascot. Like, sports merch is a huge part of sports fandom. And if you're going to be wearing this merch and you're choosing anyway, I don't think that's that crazy of an entry point. Now, don't just like them and not watch the team or like eng age with the sport itself. That's where you fail as a fan. But if that was what got you in, if you picked because you liked the way it looked, I don't think that's that nuts because I know a lot of people who like, you know, sometimes you'll enviously look at teams like, like Dan. I mean, Dan really loves Pat Patriot merch, and he's very jealous of the fact that that's not his team, that's my team. And, and I think, like, yeah, you can pick based off of merch. I mean, how come fashion matters so much that people, you know, but it doesn't matter when it comes to sports? I think that's silly. That being said, you're not just picking them because of that. You said my dad raised me partially as a Dolphins fan. So you do have, like, lineage to this. And I also think anybody giving you grief for rooting for a terrible team and choosing a terrible team, I would say fundamentally does not understand what it is about sports fandom that makes sports fandom great. Get in at the bottom level. Now's the time. Like, if you picked a team that was winning, that was great. I'd hope you're. That's when your friend should give you grief. You know, like, think back to the people who Are like Cowboys, Duke fan. And you're like, oh, you just like everybody. That's good. Oh, you like the Yankees and the Cowboys and Duke. Okay. What an interesting person you are. Make fun of that person. Don't make fun of somebody who's like, yeah, I have a moderate connection through my family to the Dolphins. I like Mike McDaniel. He's a young head coach who got caught vaping on the sidelines, allegedly. You know, he's like a, like you said, first Madden coach. And I, I know that because I'm marrying a guy who played video football, video games against the coach of the Dolphins. They were friends in middle school and I like their colors and I like their mess. You have nothing to. You do not have to explain yourself to me, Luke. And if your friends need you to explain yourselves to them, maybe it's time for new friends. Especially if they're, if they're Texas, if they're any sort of Texas team fan.

[Chris]

The only reason I am a San Jose Sharks fan is because I got a hand me down T shirt from my cousin when I was probably six and loved the colors and wore that shirt a lot. Yeah, didn't know much about it, didn't have access to NHL games, but they were the first team that I knew of and so grew up being a Sharks fan. And finally when we had access to games, I was able to get into them and thankfully at that time they were quite good. They were making the playoffs regularly and they were a fun team to root for. And it all came because my cousin gave me a cool looking, hand me down shirt with the teal and, and, and the Shark on the front. Like it looked awesome. That was, that was the, that was the only reason why I started going for the Sharks. And it's been a bit rough the last few years and I haven't enjoyed being a Sharks fan in the last, what, three, four, five years. But that's what started it for me.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I don't think anybody has. Nobody's entitled to know your origin story. That's for you. And you can share it with them or you don't have to, but it does not matter what it is to me that like sparks your connection with a team. It matters that you like, foster the connection and, and let it grow into something. So I think, Luke, you've got to stay strong. And hopefully for you and again for that man that I'm marrying, the Dolphins will be better soon. But then like, not for me. You know, like, I would love if McDaniel actually would leave the Dolphins so the Dolphins could suck. And maybe he would come to either, you know, a different division, or maybe he could coach the Patriots at some point. I don't know. Is that so crazy? Let's go to our next question.

[Chris]

He's another voicemail. Let's see who it is.

[Nick]

Hey, Katie and everyone else listening, my name is Tanya. I'm calling in from Portland, Oregon. I'm calling because I am definitely sports casual. I'm much more of a basketball girly and a soccer girly than anything else. But the super bowl yesterday, I think kept coming up, and I had no idea what they were talking about, so I thought this was the right people to ask. That kid got a big six. It was his birthday. He. It was his first touchdown on his birthday, and he won Super Bowl. Everyone keeps saying pick six. What's a pick six? I could Google it. But I thought getting an answer from you guys would be so much cooler. Anyway, thanks in advance. Love the podcast, and I love all of you guys. Thanks. Bye.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, I love you, too. And I mean it, Tanya. I mean, first of all, you guys, I'm looking at my producers. You guys just got told that she loved you. That might have been the first explicitly to you. I love you, and I just want you to emotionally prepare for those. Okay. Brady's making a heart with his hands. Okay. But so is Isabella, and hers is cuter for being honest. I thought this was the new one. I thought this was how we do it now. You're right. Sorry. But you could clip this. Clip this. I've seen. This is the one that the Mormon girl did next to her baby while it was in the nicu. Remember that video? Remember when she did remember that? Anyone remember? Anyone watch that Mormon show? No?

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Just me.

[Chris]

I don't think so.

[Katie Nolan]

Guys, come on.

[Isabella]

So I need to. I want to know what a Pixix is.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so it's. I included this question a. Because I like to think that I feel bad that Tanya asked this and we never got back to her. And she's like, wow, guess I'll just never know what a pick six is she's referring to. I also picked it because I want you to know there's no level of lack of sports knowledge that matters to me. This is a perfectly fair question, and I'm happy we're the ones to answer it for you. It's when you pick. You know, you catch the. You intercept a pass, and then you take it all the way to the end zone for six points. Points. Pick six. It's a. It's a touchdown resulting from a pick. So pick six. It's fun, it rhymes, and it's about the. The number of points that you can get. It's Cooper. It's Dejean. Or did you want to say Dejon? Right. Because that's what it looks like. Yeah, but it's. It's. It's like De Jean, but with a soft Iowa pronunciation. Yeah, yeah. And that's who she's referring to. Who had a pick six. It was his birthday. So there it is. Pick six. It's. You pick. A pick is an interception, and then the six is because you took it all. He didn't, like, get tackled or run out of bounds. He took it all the way to the end zone. They scored six points. So sorry we kept you waiting on that answer, and thank you for not googling it. Next.

[Chris]

All right, we've got another voicemail. Who we got?

[Brady]

Hi, Katie and Casuals crew. My Name's Charlie, I'm 23, and I'm from Minnesota. And my question to you is from an outside looking in, will I ever see a championship in my life? Out of the four major teams in my area, the Twins, Vikings, Wild, and Timberwolves, we've never touched a championship. It's been 34 years now since one of our teams won. Obviously, I wasn't around for that one. We've had countless stars like Randy Moss, Joe Maurer, Kevin Garnett, now Kirill Kaprizov, Anthony Edwards, and Justin Jefferson. And I'm starting to get nervous that I'll never see a championship in my life. The closest we've gotten is some conference championship games like Timberwolves and the Vikings. Two times NFC championship, and they blew it. So will I ever see a championship?

[Nick]

That's my question. Thank you.

[Brady]

Love the show.

[Katie Nolan]

Love you guys. Charlie, love you. Mean it. Thank you for your emotionally vulnerable question. I'd like to walk you through the stages of my response to this. When I heard it first, I felt, wow, I am so selfish because I have never once considered how that must feel to root for teams and never get a championship. Of course, as a Boston fan, I can die whenever I'm good. But you, you've got all these teams, all these stars. You've mentioned all these chances, and it hasn't happened for you. And to look at your life and go, what if it never happens for me? Must be really scary. Second thought I had, I went back and I looked at how old you are. You're 23. That is an insane thought to have at 23 to be as downtrodden as you are. I got to the end of the voicemail, I was like, wow, absolutely. And this guy's in his 50s. No, 23 now. Third thought was, in Charlie's defense, things do feel kind of bleak right now. So the. In my lifetime, I could see how somebody might be like, we're running out of time. We need to give me a championship. So I get that. Um, do I think that you're. That Charlie will ever see a championship? I do. I think so. I think so long as the world continues, so long as every sport we currently root for continues successfully and remains legal, I think that Minnesota's got it in him to pull it out. I think a main component of it is that you just have to believe this. And then in, like, kind of a sad way, this question also made me think about a friend of mine who's like an Internet friend. I've known him for a really, really long time, since I started my career when I worked at a website called Guyism that I beg you not to look into at all. It's. It's just not worth it. But what was worth it, it. One of the guys I worked with there, his name was Andy. His name is Andy Isaac. He's World of Isaac on what was formerly known as Twitter. He's like a very popular sports Twitter guy. Very loudly pro Detroit. The guy I think of anytime Detroit does anything. And when Detroit was starting to get good, I was like, oh, Andy's gonna get his championship. Andy has been battling cancer, and he just actually recently, like this week, tweeted that he's entering into hospice care. So it's a real bummer to consider that Andy might not see the Lions do what he deserves to see the Lions do. But I will tell you what, when the Lions do do that, he's the first guy I'm going to think of. I'm going to raise a glass to Andy Isaac, a friend of mine, a Detroit sports icon, and people will remember him and tell stories about him. And so I think even if you go out of this life without seeing your teams win the championship, your fandom is not forgotten. It will actually be the thing that keeps you alive in the hearts of people who loved you. When your team does finally win a championship, and what a cool, an exciting way to be remembered and celebrated, you will always be a part of that team. So I think, yes, Charlie, as a 23 year old, I do think you will have plenty of time to see your teams win a championship. But if it ends up that life is cruel and you don't take a little bit of. Of solace in the fact that you'll be remembered along with your team and you'll be celebrated by all of your friends and family and the fans of that team because of how much you loved them. Let's go to the next question.

[Nick]

Hi, Katie, it is Kaylee calling from New York. And in your latest episode of Casuals, you were talking about Swifties and how they are struggling with accepting defeat in the chief loss. And there is one part of the episode where you started to say, what is this feeling? And it really sounded like you were about to break out in song from that song from Wicked called what is this Feeling? What is this feeling so sudden in new anyway, that made me wonder. You are someone who has lived in or near New York for a long time now. Are you a musical theater girly? Where do you fall in that spectrum? There seems to be a Venn diagram of Broadway girlies and sports girlies, and I fall directly in the middle. I love both very passionately. That seems to be a slim Venn diagram. It seems to just be me and Daryl Morey and a couple of others. Anyways, what are your thoughts on usable theater? Okay. Love you, Venus. Bye.

[Katie Nolan]

Kaylee. I love this question because when I worked on Garbage Time, a show I used to have On Fox Sports 1, we had a producer named Ashley, and she was firmly in the middle of this Venn diagram. She loved musical theater. I actually think that's what she does now. I think she's like a musical theater influencer. She goes to more musicals than anybody I've ever met in my life. And she loved hockey, and those were her two things. And I had never met anybody with that combination. And I loved her. I love her. But, you know, we're not as we don't work together anymore. But I love her. And so I love you, Kaylee. Here's what I will say about musicals. I love them, as with most things, and I guess this is kind of the concept of casuals. I feel like I don't love them enough to say I'm like a musical girly. You know, I feel like there is a rich culture of people who are, like, devoted to Broadway, who know the ins and outs of every song. I remember I watched a video of a guy who could. You could blindfold him and play a video of anybody who has ever played Elphaba in Wicked, and he could tell you who it was based off of the way they did a Certain riff in a song. And I was like, that is just incredible to me. The same way I look at how a lot of people who are like stats crazy about sports can name, you know, like Bomani Jones, when he talks about draft, he can go like through draft classes all the way back and you're like, that's incredible knowledge. I don't have that. But I love and appreciate musicals. I don't leave the house a lot, but. But I have. I. Dan and I had a conversation recently where I was like, look, we might not live here that much longer. The rent keeps going up. So while we live in Manhattan, we really should be taking advantage of the fact that like we can hop on a train and go a couple stops and we're at Broadway. So this year I. I have seen, well, I guess like last year, calendar year, but within a year of today, I saw the Back to the Future musical and I loved it. And I saw Dan took me to see Book of Mormon because I'd never seen it it and I loved it. So like, I am musical receptive. I'm open to it. I will say there can get to be a level of musicalness that's too much for me. There are sometimes a little too much sing songy and not enough like I can't follow what's happening. I'm too add. I do need there to be some talking that isn't singing. But I think in general, yeah, I love musicals. I haven't seen Wicked yet. I've heard it's really good. I want to see it in the theater and I don't like going to theaters by myself. So I've been trying to recru a girlfriend to go see Wicked with me. Here's the thing, most of them have gone already, so I'll probably just end up seeing it at home and that's fine. But I love musical theater. Not as much as you and don't hate me for that, but I appreciate it. Is anybody on our staff super into musical theater?

[Brady]

I'm not, but I have this take on sports and art.

[Katie Nolan]

Great. Let's hear it, Brady.

[Brady]

Sports fans with an art background are my favorite types of sports fans. They're the ones that I want to talk sports about with the most. Sports fans tend to think of every sports. Sports fans tend to think of everything as a zero sum. You have a winner, you have a loser. If one person's good at something, someone else has to suck. If one person wins a game, the other one has to lose. If there's a good team, there's a bad team. Art fans compare everything in sports. The way they view athletes and teams is just against a standard of greatness. So if I want to talk to somebody with an art background about LeBron James, it doesn't have to become, well, yeah, he's better than mj. MJ can never do what he does.

[Katie Nolan]

Isabel, do you like musicals?

[Isabella]

I do. I do like musicals. I wouldn't say I'm like a, like a full on obsessed musical theater person, but I think I just have, like, select musicals that I like. I won't, like, turn away watching them. Like, I know some people were like, oh, I won't watch that show or that movie because it's like, musical. Yeah. Like, I'm not like that. I like it. Yeah. I really love, like, west side Story. I've seen a few musicals in person. Like Mamma Mia. Mary Poppins. That was really cool because she flies over you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that is cool. I do love, like, a little stunt.

[Isabella]

Yeah. I wish I saw Phantom of the Opera because I want to experience the, you know, chandelier.

[Katie Nolan]

That's Dan's favorite musical. Yeah, he loves Phantom of the Opera. He loves it so much.

[Chris]

What's your favorite?

[Katie Nolan]

Katie? Okay, I'm thinking through the ones I've seen live, so. I saw Mamma Mia. I saw. I think I saw Phantom, but it was like, so long ago. I would need to see it again. I've seen Rent. I saw the Cats movie. Funny. Just very funny. I went to one of those theaters where you can, like, drink while you watch a movie. And we got hammered in the middle of the day and watched the Cats movie, me and my friend Andrea, and it was quite a blast. In college, I. We went on a field trip to see Spring Awakening. And I will say, loved Spring Awakening. Love the music, love all of it. Didn't love the watching most of, like, the masturbation scene next to my professor. I will say that was a pretty tough. A pretty tough type of musical to watch with your class and your teacher. But I liked it, you know, Like, I liked the music. I don't know if I have a favorite, and I feel like I might be leaving out one that I've seen. But I just, you know, I like. I like musicals. I like musicals. I like Greece. I've never seen Grease, but the movie I've watched a million times. I watch Greece too, a million times. I fuck with musicals.

[Isabella]

Watch Wicked when you get home.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, I will. I'll do that today. I got. Dan's gonna be away all weekend, so I'll just do that. That gives me something to do. Yeah.

[Brady]

Sneaky long. Like pushing three hours for half of the musical.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. All right.

[Isabella]

Get some snacks.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Get high. Take a break.

[Katie Nolan]

I'll take a little break. You know, I'll. I'll get on my Denver grass. I'll play for Denver Grass fc.

[Isabella]

Yeah, there you go.

[Katie Nolan]

And then I'll watch it. All right, next.

[Chris]

All right, so we have an email from Rich and Rich asks, or Rich says, so I'm a long suffering jets fan who has moved to and live in greater Philly for the last 15 years. This past Super Bowl, I was at a Super, super bowl party and was asked what I would do if the jets ever made a Super Bowl. Would I, A, want to go to the game, B, have a big party or C, go to a bar viewing party? And I chose D, alone in the dark with no distractions. Am I the weird one? I'm not a good lose. I know that. And I couldn't deal with people talking during the game.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, Rich, I. It it. I. Oh, hi. Thank you for writing an email. I almost don't want to say something positive to you because you're a Jets fan, but I think you're not weird at all. I don't think that's weird at all. Why? Because the older I get, the more I realize knowing yourself is powerful. And if what you know is that you're not going to be fun to be around at a party when your team is playing in the super bowl, if you're going to be the guy who's telling everybody to shut up and you're getting annoyed and everything they do, you're on like a short fuse and you snap at them. If you know that you're going to be antisocial and potentially lose friends because of the stress you're feeling during the super bowl, then, baby, stay home. You, you know yourself. That's powerful. No need to get in arguments with your friends and then watch the jets lose the super bowl because we both know that's what's going to happen, so might as well just stay home. You get to control the food you want. You get to control the volume. You get to. All of it is in your control. Maybe turn a light on. You know, I don't know that you got to be in the dark, but I understand no distractions. I understand being stressed out and wanting to watch your team. Now when your team's really good and you've gotten to watch them at a bunch of Super Bowls, like, let's say the. I guess like the Patriots, for example, you. You evolve to a point where you're like, okay, I watched them win in a car. I watched them win in a bar. I watched them win. So I can go do these other things. But, yeah, for your first and potentially only one. I totally understand that, Rich. If you want to stay home alone by your yourself, I think going to the game, the odds of it being a bad experience are much higher. Football in general, I've always said this, not my favorite sport to watch live. And if you're watching the super bowl live and you lose and they drop that confetti, that sucks. And then you got to leave the super bowl, which is like a packed. I don't know if you saw the pictures from New Orleans, but it's like not a chill situation leaving a Super Bowl. It's a lot of people. So I. I think staying home alone is fine and fair.

[Chris]

I agree 100%. My Australian football team, they are my most beloved sporting team that I root for. They haven't won A championship for 30 years. I can't remember that game. I was only 4 at the time. But if I ever had the opportunity to watch them in, we call it the Grand Final, I'd want to watch it alone. I'd want to watch with my dad. Really, that's what I'd want to do. I wouldn't want anyone else over, just me and my dad sitting down. Wouldn't want to watch it with friends, because especially over here, I don't want to watch it with people who don't have a rooted interest in the team or don't know about the sport, who might be asking questions about what the fuck they're watching during the game. Because it's such a complicated sport. I don't want any of that, but I would absolutely just want to watch it with dad. Because I grew up watching these games with dad every single week. When I was living in Australia, we'd either go to the game or watch it together. So that's. That's absolutely the right call. Don't want to watch with anyone else except my dad. Bad.

[Brady]

My brain just can't handle watching football games from any kind of diagonal.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, it just doesn't process the best seat in the house. You're saying.

[Brady]

Well, just so used to, like, you know, when you watch on tv, it goes left to right. When you play Madden, you're straight behind, but as soon as you go like five degrees off to one angle. No idea what I'm looking at? No, just 22 dudes standing around a field.

[Katie Nolan]

I also go like, he's wide open. Throw it to him. Because I'm not thinking of like, yeah, well, he can't see that guy because to him he's not. It's like you're at a weird angle. I agree. I just think, like, like, there's a lot of bad seats in the house of football. And also, like, I take for granted when I'm watching it on TV how much easier it is when they remind you of, like, down in distance and like, oh, this guy isn't in right now. He left with an injury. Like, I'm not noticing that live the way that I'm hearing about it on tv. So, yeah, I think when it's your team in the super bowl, if. I'll say if Rich, cuz God only knows. But if it's ever your team in the Super Bowl, I think it's totally up to you what you want to do. And nothing you could possibly say is weird because it's you. It's you knowing yourself and doing what you want to do. And I believe in that.

[Chris]

All right, so the next one is from Jake. Jake says, I find myself in a conundrum that the Patriots fan could certainly help me with. I was born into a Chiefs family in Texas and have been a fan since the early 2000s, when I could really understand football. Great memories of Priest Holmes, Tony Gonzalez, blah, blah, blah. After 2019, people were happy for me. However, my problem began in the last two years. Cowboys friends now look at me with anger as they promote little Shoddy, hoping that he, like his dad, can maybe win a wild card round or two. My bank account is drained from sending money to our ref bribing fund. Every week I have to pretend that I'm guilty, that my team is killing it instead of cackling on the inside while Darth Kermit throws touchdowns to America's first boyfriend. As a Patriots fan, how did you react to other fans and Troy Aikman's hatred during the reign of their evil empire? I feel like I paid my dues from 93 to 13 when we got up.

[Katie Nolan]

Big Red Jake, this is a very funny email. Darth Kermit to America's first boyfriend. Made me chuckle out loud. And thank you for highlighting Troy Amman's part in all of it. I. You have to learn to let it fuel you. You got to just like let people hating you fuel you. I think is where I got to. I remember when the Patriots used to always get yelled at for, oh, they get the calls. Brady gets all the calls. And that used to, like, genuinely personally upset me. Like, I think I, I think it made me a more like a better watcher of football because I was like, well, let me pay closer attention and like, better understand the calls so that I can defend Brady and say that that's not what he. I mean, being a Patriots fan certainly made me better understand football, but also, you know, the court of appeals process, I had to learn all that through Deflategate. I think, like, eventually I was just like, like, oh, let the hate flow through you. Like, oh, they hate us, cuz they ain't us. You just kind of have to be like, everybody's mad. Everybody's mad. And I love that. For me, I think that's truly where you have to end up. That's funny, because the last Chiefs fan I spoke to was the absolute sweetest human to ever walk the earth, Heidi Gardner. So, like, I have now in my mind, she really, she really, like, unmoored me in my understanding of Chiefs fans. It was fun to be annoyed by them. And I, I, I know she's just one, right? So I'm not saying she represents everybody, but my, she like, rattled my base when it comes to cheat. And now this with a funny email. Don't make me like you guys. That'll make me uncomfortable. Like, let, let us. It's good for everybody to have somewhere to put their hatred. And, and right now it's on you. And I think, like, soak it in, Soak it up, because you're gonna suck at some point. You will also suck soon. As a Patriots fan. Eat all you can, you know, all you can eat buffet because you're gonna be very hungry in the future and you're gonna miss it. You will have. It's, it's, you know, you'll have known what it's like to eat good and you won't have any food. Okay? So just eat up, Enjoy it while you can. Okay, let's. We got more, right?

[Chris]

We do. Next email is from Dakota.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

If you could make one drink as healthy as water, what would it be? Same taste and everything. But drinking a gallon of it would have the same health effects as drinking a gallon of water.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. What a question, Dakota. That's. I think we, I don't want to assume that's a. We would all guess a woman.

[Chris]

No idea.

[Katie Nolan]

Nobody knows. Everybody thinks so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I guess.

[Brady]

Dad, Prescott is Dakota Prescott. I'm not making assumptions.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, good point. Okay, so Dakota, I like Your question. I think. I think it's Dr. Pepper. I think. Don't answer. Yeah. What? That's not crazy.

[Chris]

Oh, okay. If you say so.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you have against Dr. Pepper?

[Chris]

The taste.

[Brady]

Is this a cultural thing again?

[Isabella]

I like Dr. Pepper.

[Katie Nolan]

Dr. Pepper is the. Really is the best soda.

[Isabella]

It's like, no, I mean, Coke is the best soda, but. Yeah, but if I were to choose Dr. Pepper and, like, root beer, for example, Dr. Pepper's better.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, now you're just getting personal for no reason. I feel like Coke is. Is obviously better than Pepsi. I think we can all.

[Isabella]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And so as far as, like, a cola goes. Yeah, I like Coke. I like Coke a lot. I'd say my top two are like, it's like Coke and Dr. Pepper and Sprite. But if I could. If you're telling me I could drink as much as I want and it's water, it's Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper, famously, where it came from was like somebody was trying to capture the taste of a memory of a soda fountain in an old school, like, pharmacy. And they were like, the smell and the way all the flavors mix makes this unique flavor. And that's the flavor of Dr. Pepper. So to say Dr. Pepper sucks is ignorant. It's ignorant.

[Brady]

And you hate college football.

[Katie Nolan]

It's ignorant. It's wrong. And you hate college football.

[Chris]

Don't really care about college football. So that part's accurate.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, same under this hypothetical.

[Brady]

Am I still getting drunk or is it just water?

[Katie Nolan]

It's water. Why would you get drunk?

[Isabella]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

Cause I was gonna say, if it's.

[Isabella]

Beer, I would choose beer.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Chris]

It's gotta be the answer. Beer's gotta be the answer.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, but you would still be. You'd be drunk, so that's the perk of it.

[Chris]

But that's good. The drunk pot is good.

[Katie Nolan]

But if you're getting health effects. But if it were like water, I feel like you'd be.

[Isabella]

I don't think she's asking. I think the drunk properties will still come, you know, But I think.

[Chris]

But as healthy as water, so it.

[Katie Nolan]

Just wouldn't have any negative health effects then.

[Brady]

I think clearly here, the answer is mojito.

[Katie Nolan]

A mojito.

[Brady]

Because, like, I love a mojito, but a mojito, the way you say it.

[Katie Nolan]

Is so funny the way you're saying it. I think we do have to slow down and analyze. Say it again.

[Brady]

Mojito.

[Katie Nolan]

Say it one more time.

[Brady]

Mojito.

[Katie Nolan]

Isabella, you say it.

[Isabella]

Mojito.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. Chris, you say it.

[Chris]

I don't even know what you're saying.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, the first time he said it, he said it. L O J I T O Mojito.

[Chris]

Whoa.

[Katie Nolan]

You do it too? Yeah, it's a mojito. You have to. It's like a mojito. It's not a mojito. It's not a mojito.

[Isabella]

I feel like the first time Brady said it, he was excited, so came out as, like, mojito.

[Katie Nolan]

But then he continued. He called it mojito a bunch of times. A mojito for those aren't who aren't in the mojit. No, is. What is it? Limes and sugar muddled with mint mint and rum and soda water.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. So it's like a lime mint rum mix. Somebody orders it when the bar is packed because you have to smash and smush. And then it's just a lot of work.

[Isabella]

My brother bartends, and he tells me that whenever someone orders a mojito, it's like, his, like, least favorite thing are we ca.

[Katie Nolan]

We're calling it a mojito. I am feeling numb.

[Brady]

But now you're making yourself kindly.

[Katie Nolan]

No, it's me. I'm ruled out. I don't think it does rhyme with burrito, but that's. I'm ruled out. And I'm. Look, I'm almost 40 now.

[Brady]

I sound too Baltimorean.

[Katie Nolan]

If I say at this period of my life, I'm willing to accept that maybe sometimes I'm wrong. Don't want to shock anybody out there, but it's possible that there are times in tiny little ways that I'm not right. I think we all just have to accept that. And this may be one of them. A mojito. It's Dr. Pepper. You know what else? I thought at first of saying I ordered something at Starbucks recently that I think might be wildly unhealthy. And it just came out. It just was something I said. And I haven't Googled it, but I'm gonna admit to it here. So I had a friend who used to work at Starbucks back when I first graduated college and moved into New York City. It was awesome because at the end of the night, they used to take all of their pastries or whatever, and they would. Awesome. And she would bring them to our house, our apartment, and so we could just eat these, like, kind of stale, free Starbucks pastries. I lived off of that and cereal out of a bag because I didn't realize how expensive groceries were in New York. And it was a big mistake and an oversight on my part. Point is, she taught me that if you like a chai at Starbucks, you should order it as a no water chai. I never investigated what that meant. I just said, I love a grande soy no water chai. I tasted it and I was like, ooh, this is exactly what I was looking for. Now what I think it is is that instead of using tea, they actually use a powder that they then mix with water that makes it the tea and then they add the milk. So if you get a no water chai, it's just like the chai flavoring powder and soy milk, and it takes out the middleman and waters it down less. Now, if you are familiar with a chai, you know there's a such thing as a dirty chai, and that's when you take a chai tea and you put a shot of espresso in it. The other day, unprovoked, I went into a Starbucks and I was like, I don't even know what I'm going to order. Just whatever comes out of my mouth, I'm going to say. And I said, a grande soy no water chai with two shots of espresso. Is that the most unhealthy thing anyone's ever ordered? I truly think as I was drinking it, I was like, this might be really bad for me as someone who.

[Isabella]

Also works as a barista and has, like, for years, I've had people get like seven shots or like, like, like 10 packets of sugar.

[Katie Nolan]

So, like, truly, they say those words to you? They say 10 packets of sugar when.

[Isabella]

I used to work at Starbucks years ago. Yeah, I've had that before. Or like when they just want something extra milky or extra caramelly. And then when you actually make the drink, it's like a fourth of coffee.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Isabella]

So no, you're fine.

[Katie Nolan]

That's not bad.

[Isabella]

No.

[Brady]

At what point do you feel, like, responsible, like, you can't. Sir, I can't do this.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, sir.

[Isabella]

Thank you for asking me. Because I am notoriously known for, like, under syruping. Like, I'm very light handed. And then they always come back to me and are like, they've got.

[Katie Nolan]

You want to get more sweeter.

[Isabella]

And I'm like, I'm doing this.

[Katie Nolan]

That's so funny. You just know there's like a local community that's like, if you get Isabella, be sure to ask for extra extra, because she's very stingy with the syrups.

[Isabella]

I am. And I have no problem because I'm looking out for you, man.

[Katie Nolan]

I knew I should have Known we had a problem with this stuff when I spice had that Dunkin Donuts drink come out and it had munchkins in it and I was like, what's this? What's this? That's food.

[Brady]

Well, you don't like the Bloody Mary that has the whole meal on a stick in it?

[Katie Nolan]

I like it more than a couple years ago when they started doing those milkshakes at brunch that had a slice of cake on the side. I'm like, how do I eat this? What is this? It's cool for the Instagram picture and I get it if that's all it's for, but I do not know how to consume this. But I wish it was as healthy as drinking water. Dr. Pepper is my final answer. All right, we got a couple more. All right.

[Chris]

All right, here we go. Next.

[Nick]

Hey, it's Kelsey from Rhode Island. I am currently driving into work right now and I just listened to Nissan Altima by Jochi I don't know, 10 times in a row and I am hyped for my day now. So my question is, is there. What is your current, I don't know, pre hype up song or what song are you walking around the city with to get pumped to? I don't know what I'm saying. What song gets you pumped these days? Love you mean it.

[Katie Nolan]

Goodbye, Kelsey. Fantastic question. You did a great job. I love you and I mean it. And Goodbye Dochi is a great. Let me apologize to anybody, any of these musicians I'm about to name if me naming them as a pump up song in any way damages their credibility. I'm sorry for loving you, but I do. I think Nissan Altima is a great pick. I also think. What's the bullfrog on that album? I also love. There's another one. I mean her song with Teller, the creator was that balloon?

[Isabella]

Balloon, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Love that song. A staple in my hype up music. Strutting through the city, walking my dog Music is Plan B by Megan Thee Stallion, a personal fave of mine. What else? Lately I've been on a kick of Redman and Missy Elliott. That bitch. I love that song. That's a good one. Surely there's more, but as I think of them. Anyone else have things that they're currently using as their pump up song?

[Chris]

One of my favorites is from a band called the Forces of Evil. Have you heard of the Forces of Evil? They're a.

[Katie Nolan]

In the world? Yes. As a band. No.

[Chris]

They're a Scar super band. The lead singer of Forces of Evil is also the lead singer of Real Big Fish. And they had an album come out years ago. It would have been 2003, I think it was. And they had a song called Angry anthem that for some reason just popped into my mind again about a month ago and has been high on repeat. And it's a lot of fun and lyrics that you can really belt out and. And. And get a lot of energy from. So I'd say probably Angry Anthem from Friend or Foe.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

From. From Forces of Evil on the album Friend or Foe.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. All right. Right, Brady. This could be interesting. Brady's music tastes. I don't know, but if I had to guess them, I bet they don't align with mine.

[Brady]

Yeah, cuz you just. You pressured me and just sound uncool.

[Katie Nolan]

No, Brady, I'm encouraging you to sound uncool. We need hair metal.

[Brady]

Gets me. Hair metal gets the blood pumping.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Brady]

Like, absolutely.

[Katie Nolan]

Like who?

[Brady]

So, like, kickstart My heart's the all time number one. Like mly Crew Vince Neil writing a song about Nikki Six, like dying and was brought back to life, and they're like, hell yeah. Let's put some riffs to this.

[Katie Nolan]

I love that.

[Brady]

Just. It gets you. Gets you going.

[Katie Nolan]

Gets you going.

[Brady]

Yeah. Quiet riot. Mental health.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure. And for the. Just for the record, please, if you could state your age.

[Brady]

I am 40.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Well, it's. It's. You might be thinking 60. You'd be wrong. He's 40. Isabella, what do you got? Representative represent the young people on our podcast.

[Isabella]

It's either something like lately on gnx Kendrick's album, Something like from there or Sexyy Red. I could go to that route. Or sometimes music like this pumps him up too. Is like Cocteau Twins. That's like a pump up.

[Katie Nolan]

Look at Brady's face.

[Isabella]

You do what's a popular song?

[Brady]

Yeah, that was me voicing. What the hell is that? I don't.

[Isabella]

They're like a indie band from, like, 90s.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And their name is what again?

[Isabella]

Cocktotwins.

[Katie Nolan]

Cocteau Twins.

[Isabella]

Spelled C O, C, T E A.

[Katie Nolan]

U, T E. Cocktoe Twins.

[Isabella]

Yep.

[Katie Nolan]

Not to be confused with the Yin Yang twins.

[Isabella]

Nope.

[Brady]

Scottish rock band, active from 79 to 97. Okay. This feels like something I have a better chance at.

[Katie Nolan]

I didn't feel. I did not see this coming.

[Isabella]

Yeah, I like. I like this one album. I think it's literally called Heaven or Lassie Vegas.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I'm writing it down. When I get home, I'm gonna listen to these things.

[Chris]

Shoegaze they're shoegaze.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Isabella]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Chris]

Shoegaze. Nice.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Chris]

All right. I like some shoegaze.

[Isabella]

Yeah. So sometimes that's like kind of a. You know, it's not, you know. You know, you have music where it's not necessarily upbeat, but it, like, it gets you going for some reason.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Isabella]

Speaks to your soul.

[Katie Nolan]

That's like that. There's a band from Boston. They're, I think, technically no longer a band, but they are doing a reunion show in March, and I got tickets, and I'm very excited. They're called the Receiving End of Siren Friends, and they had a. An album that was, like, the soundtrack of my college experience. And most of the stuff on that is my, like, Pump up song that no one's ever heard of. And I was on a Red Sox broadcast and somebody asked, who would you like to see do a concert at Fenway? And I was too, like, not embarrassed, but I was too, like, I'll sound like a certain type of person if I say, and I regret to this day not saying the Receiving End of Sirens, because it would be very cool to see them at Fenway. But I'm seeing them next month in Boston, and I will surely give you guys a full review. You. Because I'm very excited. I also. Okay, so I. You mentioned gnx, and I. I want to be respectful of an artist's music that they put out, right? So, like, Squabble up is on that album, and. Great. Fantastic. I happened to run into a Twitter account that mashes songs together so it'll take the beat of Squabble up and, like, the. The song, like, lyrics and everything else of another song and put them together, and I ran into one that I'm obsessed with. The reason I bring up respecting the. The album is because, like, you just put out Squabble Up. It's almost disrespectful to me if I listen to the beat of Squabble up to somebody else's song right away. So I didn't let myself listen to this song for a couple months. Once I ran into it because I liked it too much, and I wanted to, again, be respectful of Kendrick's album and the art that he put out. But if you happen to run across the Twitter account that took Corso by Tyler, the creator, and put it over the beat from Squabble Up.

[Isabella]

That sounds interesting.

[Katie Nolan]

It's perfect.

[Isabella]

Wait, it's.

[Katie Nolan]

It's.

[Isabella]

It's his. It's. Tyler creator is rapping over the beat of Squabble Up.

[Katie Nolan]

It is so Good. That I had to Google how to put a song that I ripped from YouTube into my music library so that I could listen to it on my phone. And now that I've allowed myself to do that, I have it and I listen to it. It, like, first on any sort of expedition out of my apartment. It's so catchy. But then I also, as a penance, listen to Squabble up, the actual song, because. Thank you for giving us that, Kendrick. We appreciate you very much.

[Isabella]

You're, like, repenting.

[Katie Nolan]

I feel bad. I feel someone's like, I made this thing. And I'm like, I really like this part of it. And I'm going to replace this. Like, it's. Squabble up is a great song. I. I just. I almost wish I had never encountered. Encountered this mix mashup, because I'm like, I feel very guilty about it, but it fucking rules. Okay. I feel like we're at our last one.

[Chris]

Yeah, we got one more. One more voicemail. Let's see who made the cut.

[Katie Nolan]

Better be good.

[Nick]

Hey, Katie and the gang, this is Nick from Massachusetts. Previous caller from the previous podcast era, calling in from work right now. Just listening to the last episode. Had a quick question that's been quite controversial. In the group chat shots. The left versus the right side of the bed. Which side is which? Is the left side when you're looking at it from the foot of the bed, or is the left side when you're laying in the bed and facing towards the foot of the bed? Very controversial. It's been so evenly split everywhere I've asked it. I need opinions. All right, love you.

[Chris]

Mean it.

[Nick]

Bye, Nick.

[Katie Nolan]

Love you. Mean it. I feel like as soon as he said, previous caller from a previous podcast, there was. We had a guy who used to call and ask some wild questions, and I feel like somebody put mustard on something and it was a big debate. I gotta go back and look now and see. But if you're that. Nick. Hi. I missed you. This is blowing my mind, this question, because I don't know that I've ever even considered or thought about it. I'm trying to read the faces of my producers to see if you guys have, like, immediately, like, oh, it's obviously this. This.

[Chris]

Well, I. I did have the initial thought that it's this side where you're sitting up in bed facing the. The foot of the bed. Right. So if you're sitting up against your.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the headboard.

[Chris]

Yeah, the headboard. The left side would be right.

[Katie Nolan]

Your left, and the right Is your.

[Chris]

Right your left and right side would be your right.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

But after sort of. That was my initial thought. But then the more I think about it, the less confident I am.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. See, my initial thought was it's the. When you're looking at the bed, that's the left side and the right side. And then the more I think about it, I'm like, well actually why wouldn't you do it based off of where you are in the bed?

[Chris]

It's a great question.

[Isabella]

Yeah, it's definitely. For me, left side is going to be facing. When I'm facing the foot of the bed. I would never consider ever when I'm.

[Katie Nolan]

So when you're in the bed.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

You're on the left side.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Of the bed. I'm on the. If we're going by that metric, I'm a right side of the bed bed person. If it's when you're in the bed.

[Brady]

I thought like, what side do I sleep on? They immediately said left. And then I was like, look at the bed. What does that mean? And yeah, it's the sitting in bed looking at the feet that is the right side. But I also thought, like, I acknowledge it, I sleep like a vampire, like a psychopath. So like maybe that's not the opinion of the, of the public. But yeah, I would agree that just like looking at the foot on the left.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I sleep actually on my stomach. So that would make it the right side.

[Katie Nolan]

No, it wouldn't. Yeah, because you're facing now you're. Oh wait, actually that's the toilet flushes the other even more. That's true.

[Chris]

I, I changed my mind. It's. It's when you're facing towards the headboard.

[Katie Nolan]

So if you're looking upon the bed, you've entered the hotel, you look at the bed. Whatever side you see there is the side.

[Chris]

So because I lie on my stomach when I sleep.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Chris]

And so I sort of upwards.

[Katie Nolan]

So do I. I'm full legged. I have to sleep in the same position every night. It's like this. It's really bad for you. And it has affected my neck. Uncertain if I do it this way. I got to do this.

[Isabella]

I always do this.

[Brady]

It's very like hieroglyphics of you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I, I'm very specific. But it's funny, I've really never thought about what side of the bed, what, what it is. I think it makes sense that if it's in your. You're in the bed looking at the foot. But I think the way I'VE always treated it is you're standing up looking at the bed. That's the left side. Is the left side.

[Brady]

If the bed were a sentient being, like Peewee Herman style, okay. It would be facing outwards. Word. So like the bed's left would be its left side.

[Katie Nolan]

It's funny you mention this because whenever I have to take my dog to the vet or if she's having a problem with a paw that I have to communicate to my to Dan, I'll be like, it's her, right? Like you have to like. Cuz I'm looking at her and I'm like, it's her. The paw that's on the left of her. But if I'm her, it's her right paw. And that screws me up in my brain.

[Brady]

And so I think the bed needs to have agency in this conversation.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. But then also I hope it can't talk. I don't want to have to keep my bed quiet. You know what I'm saying?

[Chris]

Great point.

[Katie Nolan]

A great. And a great question. All really fantastic questions. It was incredibly difficult to get these down to a reasonable amount of questions to answer. And there's still a bunch left that like if your question didn't get answered, please don't think it was bad. It was good. We just live in a world where we're not trying to put out about four hour podcasts. I know, strange for me, but we had to pick a couple and leave a couple. So we'll do another mailbag if this has inspired you to ask a question. The the phone number to call us is 646-801-0043. Our email is casualswithkatynolangmail.com so you can send us correspondence there. A quick note because a lot of obviously these voicemails mentioned past podcasts that I've done or past podcast hosts and a lot of people have been clamoring to have my past podcast producer slash co host slash best friend Ashley on the podcast. It is. I've. I'm trying. She is, she now has, you know, an actual job that isn't this. She doesn't host podcasts for a living. She's a, an accomplished woman with a desk job. She works at Omaha. She's like very high up. She's very important and for some reason there's some sort of like embargo on her being allowed to do podcasts now. Yeah, I feel like that's personal. I feel like that's that company not wanting me to have my best podcast And I've got enough. I. I already am against the Mannings, and so now I'm against him even more. But I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you and not trying to get Ashley on the podcast. I wanted to have her on the episode before the super bowl because she's my Eagles fan friend who has been to the super bowl to watch the Eagles win because I took her and she beat my team. I thought it would have been great content, but she's not allowed to do any podcasts, so we're working on it. You'll probably see her soon. Until then, this is. This is. We got this. And this is good. And. And Brady's a lot like Ashley and Chris has some Ashley like tendencies. And Isabella is. Is also similar. She lives in Jersey just like Ashley does. So, you know, it's not the same, but it's all so good, right? Everything. Everything has to move on. We can't always be remaking stuff that we made in the past. This is the podcast. We love it. It's called Casuals, and you can get it wherever you get your podcasts. We're not on YouTube yet. Please stop yelling at me. It's coming. It's just, this is the way things are gonna go and we just have to deal with it. This has been very fun. Thank you all for sending in your questions. And I don't have anything random to say about an actress that I think has kissed my husband here at the end. So I do think this is just the end of the podcast cast. And I love you and I mean it, and we'll enjoy your weekend. We'll see you on Tuesday. Bye.