Merry Christmas! Two Truths and a Lie for Every NBA Franchise

Summary

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Casuals with Katie Nolan

Episode: Merry Christmas! Two Truths and a Lie for Every NBA Franchise
Date: December 25, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan, with Isabella, Chris, Brady, and others
Theme: A festive, basketball-themed Christmas episode featuring a massive NBA "Two Truths and a Lie" challenge

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Episode Overview

Katie Nolan and the Casuals crew throw a holiday party for the ears, taking listeners on a hilarious, trivia-packed journey through NBA lore. With Christmas famously belonging to the NBA (while Thanksgiving is for football), this episode forgoes news to play an epic game: for each NBA franchise, Katie, Chris, and Brady present Isabella with two real and one fake outrageous story—her job is to spot the lie. Along the way, the team shares laughs, wild facts, and memorable NBA moments, achieving exactly what Casuals is all about: making sports fandom feel like recess, not homework.

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Episode Breakdown

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[03:41] – Email Bag and Warm-Up

• Chris reads a listener email from “McKinley” about how listening to Isabella changed his fantasy football fortunes. The group celebrates Casuals helping fans embrace sports in non-intimidating ways.
• Katie, energized for Christmas, reaffirms the show’s core value: “It’s proof of the concept of the show—that a casual sports fan is leaning into it more and going to a women’s professional hockey game…this is exactly—oh, I’m so excited.”
  (05:11)

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[06:17] – NBA Christmas Day Game Schedule

Chris, the NBA expert, announces the Christmas Day NBA lineup for listeners, setting the festive sports agenda:

• 12pm ET: Cavs at Knicks
• 2:30pm ET: Spurs at Thunder
• 5pm ET: Mavericks at Warriors
• 8pm ET: Rockets at Lakers
• 10:30pm ET: Timberwolves at Nuggets

[06:41]
Chris: “First game of the day, Cavs at the Knicks. That game is at 12pm Eastern on ABC, which means—can pop a noona.”

Katie: “Hopefully you guys are already a couple nooners deep by…”
[06:27–06:32]

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[10:41] – The Game: Two Truths and a Lie, NBA Edition

Katie introduces the premise:
“For Christmas, as our gift to you, Isabella, we are going to tell you three of the funniest, weirdest, most absurd things that have ever happened to each and every team around the league. But there’s one catch. One of the three stories is completely made up.”
(11:25)

Goal: Isabella must spot the lie for all 30 franchises.
Brady tracks her score. She aims for 16/30 correct.

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[13:02] – The Challenge Begins: Highlights by Teams

Detroit Pistons

• Lie: “Had to forfeit a game because a Model T got stuck on the court” (Katie’s fake)
• Real: “A player (Isaiah Thomas) broke his own hand punching a teammate” [14:25];
• Real: “Fans so quiet, the team had to have a meeting about Jumbotron etiquette”

Toronto Raptors

• Truth: Rapper Master P did play in a preseason game for the team [15:09]
• Lie: Bouncy castle seating for fans (Brady’s fake)
• Truth: Two players discovered they were cousins

Isabella nails it: “It has to be the bouncy castle one.”
(15:28)

New York Knicks

• Truth: A player chased the team bus after Honey Nut Cheerios trash talk;
• Truth: Coach quit via fax (Pat Riley);
• Lie: First NBA team to use a three-point line in 1964 (Katie’s fake)

Katie on the Cheerio incident:
“So... Carmelo Anthony at the time was engaged to Lala. Kevin Garnett... his trash talk was telling Carmelo that Lala tasted like honey nut Cheerios.”
(16:37)

Miami Heat

• Truth: Cardboard cutout of the owner during COVID bubble (Brady)
• Truth: Player (Tyler Herro) “doesn’t believe in history before 1950”; [18:41]
• Lie: Player/dentist
• Quote:
  Chris: “I don’t believe in anything that happened before 1950. I don’t believe in history.” (18:59)

Orlando Magic

• Truth: Mascot almost drowned during unveiling (Katie)
• Lie: Player traded for appearing on Scooby-Doo
• Truth: Drafted a Spanish player who never came to the NBA

Boston Celtics

• Truth: Coach known for lighting cigars on the sideline;
• Truth: Paul Pierce left in a wheelchair during Finals and “pooped his pants” conspiracy [23:04]
• Lie: “Boston Tea Party” ejection game (Brady's fake with alliteration)

Katie: “It's just crazy to have like an amazing story and then have the running narrative be that, no, actually, you just pooped your pants...” (23:42)

Cleveland Cavaliers

• Truth: Player (Andrew Bynum) shot every time he touched the ball in practice;
• Truth: Soup throwing incident (J.R. Smith, tortilla soup) [25:55]
• Lie: Player swap with the Browns

Brady: “I thought this was Damon Jones. All right... Damon Jones was the assistant coach at the time.” (25:58)

Atlanta Hawks

• Truth: Slam Dunk Contest winner at 5'7" (Spud Webb);
• Lie: First ever 10-year contract, player retired after 65 games (Chris fake);
• Truth: Players fined $500 for rooting for Larry Bird on opposing team (1985) (28:31)

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[29:08–36:25] – Deep Dive: Philadelphia 76ers Burner Account Scandal

• Lie: Hosted NBA “Furry Night”
• Truth: Hired a coach via help wanted ad
• Truth & Main Discussion: GM’s wife ran Twitter burner accounts, criticizing players and defending GM Brian Colangelo [Dramatic reading of burner tweets ensues]
• Great Quote:
  Katie: “Just so funny... these burner accounts also retweeted something about Matiah Colangelo... only ever defending the gm. Who else would possibly retweet that?” (34:42)
• Brady: “The one that really slipped him up was when he tweeted directly at Gabrielle Union: ‘I sat next to you and Dwyane Wade at Beijing Olympics and saw you both being rude...’ Maybe don't put yourself physically in places where only you would be.” (36:35)
• Chris: “Easily the best night on Twitter that I've ever had.” (36:09)

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[39:43] – More Notable Team Highlights

Milwaukee Bucks

• Truth: Sam Cassell’s “giant balls” NBA celebration, fined $25k [37:43]
• Truth: Giannis’s “sex bell” for Valentine’s Day
• Lie: Cheese championship rings

Chicago Bulls

• Truth: Human vs. bear wrestling match as a promo event—in 1975 (bear was muzzled) (41:48-41:59)
• Truth: Carlos Boozer’s infamous “shoe polish hair”
• Lie: Built with Al Capone family money

Brooklyn Nets

• Truth: Traded superstar for cash, which bought a copy machine
• Lie: Signed an openly communist player
• Truth: Almost rebranded to “Swamp Dragons"—voted on and only vetoed by their own owner last minute

San Antonio Spurs

• Truth: Star point guard’s affair with a teammate’s wife (Tony Parker)
• Truth: Released a draft pick for exposing himself to a therapist
• Lie: Karaoke/Evanescence suspension

Golden State Warriors

• Truth: Player (Latrell Sprewell) choked his coach and was suspended for the season [69:05]
• Truth: Player parked car in front of team bus to fight opponent
• Lie: Steve Kerr drunkenly admitting “I stopped drawing up plays two years ago”

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[81:43] – The Finish Line: The Final Teams

Sacramento Kings

• Truth: Purple laser beam after every victory [80:30]
• Lie: Center court “starfish” protest by a player
• Truth: Player developed tendonitis from Game Boy overuse

New Orleans Pelicans

• Lie: Past minority owners included the creator of Magic School Bus (Joanna Cole)
• Truth: Fan sneaked onto the court to warm up with the team [82:22]
• Truth: Mascot is “King Cake Baby”—giant, topless, scary baby with crown and bib

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[84:03] – Isabella Hits Her Goal

Katie: “She got 16 of them correct. Yay. Shout out Isabella. Also the baby—I never want to see that dude.”
Chris: “Great job. At the buzzer, five of six for the winner.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Christmas and Fandom:

• Katie: “Whatever you celebrate, I hope you’re celebrating it hard. The Casualties, of course, are here with us.” (02:59)

On The 76ers Burner Scandal:

• Katie: “He is too classy to even engage. Worked with him. He’s a class act.” (37:14) (mocking a burner)

On Paul Pierce “pants pooping” legend:

• Katie: “It’s just crazy to have like an amazing story and then have the running narrative be that, no, actually, you just pooped your pants…” (23:42)

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Important Timestamps

• [03:41] – Emails and show’s proof of concept
• [06:17] – NBA Christmas game schedule
• [10:41] – “Two Truths and a Lie” segment begins
• [29:08–36:25] – Deep dive: 76ers burner account story
• [54:09] – Start of Western Conference teams
• [80:30] – Final two teams, the suspense for Isabella’s score
• [84:03] – Isabella reaches goal, celebratory wrap-up

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Tone and Vibe

• Warm, goofy, quick-witted, and friendly—Holiday cheer infuses the competition and banter.
• The group leans into the “casual” in “Casuals,” with jokes and genuine curiosity: “You know, sometimes athletes have weird nicknames...” (71:10)
• Playful skepticism (“That has to be the lie!”/“No, it is not.”) keeps the game sharp.
• Educational but never pedantic—a fun sports history crash course for listeners of all knowledge levels.

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Listener Takeaways

For NBA diehards:

• A deep cut tour of league oddities (from Honey Nut Cheerios to burner accounts, a suspended mascot to “King Cake Baby”)

For the new or casual fan:

• You don’t have to know it all to join in. The NBA is as weird, funny, and unpredictable as any sitcom, and this episode proves it.

Holiday message:

• No matter what you celebrate, the joy comes from being together, laughing together, and being part of the story—even if you don’t know every detail.

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Episode Wrap-Up

• Personal Christmas traditions are shared: road trips, pajama parties, Italian-American feasts, Charlie Brown soundtracks ([89:25]).
• Katie closes with:
  “Happy holidays, happy everything. Thank you for spending some of it with us. We love you, we mean it, and we will see you...on Tuesday.”

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Contact:

• Email: [e-mail]
• Voicemail: 646-801-0043
• IG/TikTok: @casualsthepodcast

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Happy Holidays from the Casuals crew!

Transcript

[Katie]

Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.

[Chris]

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[Dan]

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[Katie]

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[Chris]

He's talking to you britches.

[Dan]

I'm not.

[Katie]

Of course he did.

[Dan]

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[Katie]

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[Katie]

Merry Christmas.

[Isabella]

Merry Christmas.

[Katie]

Ho ho ho, ho ho ho. And Jingle bells. And well, and Brady and Chris, you too, I guess.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Oh, thank you. Merry Christmas to both of you.

[Katie]

Okay, I don't like the boys in the cold open. Let's start the podcast. Hello and welcome to a very special edition, a Christmas edition of casuals, the sports podcast that usually aims to get you caught up on everything happening in sports without boring you to death. Today, less about the news, you guys, because should I give away the magic? It's not Christmas where we are. I mean, it's Christmas time. But we're pre taping this to you so that we too can today be with our families for a little and then scroll our phones for the rest of it. We are here today to celebrate Christmas. We put Together a special episode for you that I think you're really gonna like. It's basketball themed as, as you know, Thanksgiving is like the football holiday. Christmas, of course, is the NBA holiday and so we're doing a fun basketball game today. I hope everybody out there is enjoying their holiday. Whatever they celebrate, I hope you're celebrating it hard. The casualties of course are here with us. We have Isabella, our sports new Ho ho ho. Wow, she's a girl. Chris, our editor.

[Brady]

Hi.

[Katie]

Who is Australian. And Brady.

[Brady]

Hello.

[Katie]

And we're all dressed very festive because it's Christmas. Not that that matters. It's an audio medium. Our email [e-mail] our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok we are casuals the podcast. I just wanted to say Merry Christmas first everybody. Merry Christmas casualties.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Merry Christmas.

[Katie]

Yeah, this is exciting. I'm very happy that we're spending this lovely holiday together. Did you want to start with do we have any emails? I don't want to just dive right into. We got. It's a big game that we're playing. We're going through the entire league. But do we have any like emails we can get to first?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Well, because Christmas is all about giving thanks. I that's Thanksgiving, Chris. You can also do it at Christmas. We don't have Thanksgiving in Australia so.

[Katie]

It'S all about it.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That's the only throughout the year that we can give thanks in Australia during Christmas.

[Katie]

That's Great point. Great point. And we are the number one Australian podcast. So that's why we always pronounce things funny.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

So because of that reason, I'm going to read out an email that we got from McKinley who says hey guys, after starting my fantasy season 03, I started listening to Isabella and started Caleb Williams and I'm now on an 11 week winning streak with first place and a playoff by clinched going into the last regular season week in my league. Thanks Isabella. I just found your podcast a few months ago. You can react now if you want.

[Isabella]

I was gonna say you're really welcome. I wanted to say that this is amazing.

[Katie]

You are. Your sphere of influence grows.

[Isabella]

I just have a feeling.

[Katie]

Yeah, you're a tastemaker in the space. First year in fantasy football already a tastemaker in the space.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Matthew Berry. Isabelle is coming for your Joe buddy.

[Katie]

For real? For real.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Anyway, McKinley wanted to say. McKinley went on to say, I just found your podcast a few months ago and it's so refreshing to feel so welcome as a casual Sports fan. I am leaning into being a casual fan of more sports, thanks to you. And I'm even going to my first PWHL game over Christmas, even though I'm not a big hockey fan. Love you. Mean it, McKinley.

[Katie]

Love you. Mean it. This is so exciting. This is. I say this every time. I feel bad that I say this every time. I mean it every time. It's like proof of the. Of the concept of the show that, like, a casual sports fan is leaning into it more and going, even though they don't like hockey, they're going to a women's professional hockey game. This is exactly. Oh, I'm so excited. Merry Christmas to me. That's a. This is really.

[Isabella]

Merry Christmas, Katie.

[Katie]

Thanks, guys. I'm so excited. Oh, we also wanted to say thank you to Zach in Seattle for your email. We love you and we mean it and we read it and we love you. All right, let's. Before we jump into this bit, because I was saying that the. That Christmas is basically the end is the NBA's Thanksgiving. That makes sense, right? It makes logical sense.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Sure.

[Katie]

Let's go over what the schedule is for the games today. We, of course, are before they're happening, so we're not going to like, break them down because God only knows what could happen between now and then. But let's just go through what the games are, the schedule for today. And Chris, I'm going to let you do it, A, because you're our NBA guy, but B, you're always the one who tells us what to watch and when to watch it. So let's run through the schedule for the day.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

First game of the day, Cavs at the Knicks. That game is on at 12pm Eastern on ABC, which means can pop a noona. Pop a Christmas noona.

[Katie]

Yeah. Hopefully you guys have already. You're already a couple nooners deep by.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The time we're listening to this nooner. Nog.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Second game of the day, spurs at Thunder. That'll be at 2:30pm Eastern. All these games are on ABC and ESPN, by the way.

[Katie]

Great.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Throughout the day. Third game, Mavericks at the Warriors, 5pm Eastern. Then you got the Rockets at the Lakers at 8pm Eastern. And then we finish off the day with the Timberwolves at the Nuggets at 10:30pm Eastern.

[Katie]

And that I'm sure I will be watching because I'll be. I am. What I'm saying is I am currently in Denver, so that's where we. That's where our rooting interests are. Okay, cool. So that's what's happening today on tv. Go watch some basketball now. We've got a a fun game we're going to play where we're going to take Isabella through the some of the craziest stories in the NBA throughout each team's history. So we're going to take a quick break here and when we come back, two truths and a lie for every NBA team's weird story History. Before I knew about Vuori, I really struggled with stuff that was comfort and also looks good and makes me feel good. And then I found Vuori. They make incredibly versatile, insanely comfortable clothes. They move with me. I can go from like lounging at home to layering up for my commute to then looking cute on camera as we head into fall and winter. Viori's loungewear is designed to keep up with your life because we all do a lot of things. Sure, I like to do a lot of sitting, but then I also have to get up and go outside and do stuff. And I can wear Vori for both of those things. The Performance Jogger and Halo Essential Wide Leg Pant are made with the Ori's Signature Dream Knit fabric. It's super soft, it's stretchy, it's lightweight, it's moisture wicking. Truly, it's effortless. And I love my Halo Wide leg pants. That's my errand pant. Fiori is an investment in your happiness for our listeners. They're offering 20 off your first purchase. Everybody say thank you. Viori get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on The Planet at viori.comcasuals that's V U-O-R-I.comcasuals exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. There's nothing like finding the gift, the one that feels personal, thoughtful and just right. Macy's Free Personal Stylists can help you find it. They're your personal gift guides, curating perfect presents across every category, brand, price, point or budget. Think a Le Creuset Dutch oven for the home chef, an Hermes lipstick set for the beauty minimalist, or a barber jacket for the effortlessly cool guy. They'll even handle shipping, and you'll get 20% off your first session purchase. Book your free styling session today@macy's.com running out of contact lenses can be stressful, especially when relying on old glasses, especially if you don't particularly like your glasses and you're embarrassed to be wearing them. 1-800-contacts offers an easy online prescription renewal process, ensuring fast access to replacement lenses with free shipping. The company delivers doctor prescribed contacts directly to customers doors without the need to leave home. For over 30 years, 1-800-contacts has been the leader in online contact lens delivery with millions of contacts in stock and their 24,7 customer support is there if you ever need help, day or night. I like 1-800-contacts because I often run out of contacts and need new ones and they deliver them right to my house. And it's so easy and I barely have to talk to anyone. I'm ashamed of not wanting to talk to anyone, but sometimes you just want to push a couple buttons and get your contacts. And 1-800-contacts allows for that. Getting contacts does not have to be a hassle. Let 1, 800 contacts get you the contact lenses you need right now. Order online at 1-800-contacts.com or download the free 1-800-contacts app today.

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[Katie]

Okay, we're back. This is a huge endeavor we're hoping to undertake here. For a podcast that always runs long, our goal today is to get through the entire League, all 30 teams. Isabella has missed a lot of chapters, and it's tough to be a fan if you don't know any of the history. She has missed so many crazy, wacky, weird stories throughout NBA history. So for Christmas, as our gift to you, Isabella, we are going to tell you the three funniest, weirdest, most absurd things that have ever happened to each and every team around the league. But there's one catch. One of the three stories is completely made up.

[Isabella]

Ooh, this is fun.

[Katie]

So we. I, I think you'll be. Surely you'll be able to spot the lie. Surely the stories can't be that.

[Isabella]

I don't know. Some of the weird stories you guys share don't sound even real.

[Katie]

So, I mean, I'm winking as I say, surely you'll be able to find them. The NBA is a very funny, wacky.

[Brady]

League, and we've got one a week. You don't even notice.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah.

[Katie]

All right, so we're going to start. I mean, I had them I didn't. I should have put them in a better order. But I kind of just this at the time of making this. This is the order that they're in in the standings. We've got the east and then the west. That's. But whatever. We'll just go through them, right in this random order. I shouldn't stress over this. I should just start the way we ended.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That's fine.

[Brady]

Yeah. The order doesn't matter.

[Katie]

Okay. Oh, and we. You wanted us to set a goal for Isabella's score.

[Brady]

30 teams is 32 team 30 team 30 teams. Isabella, how many do you think you can do here?

[Isabella]

Maybe like 10?

[Brady]

No, no, no. Flipping a coin. Is 10 some sort of three sided coin?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That's the wrong answer, Isabella.

[Isabella]

Oh, I don't know. 22.

[Katie]

Okay. What the hell was the thought process there? I don't know. Okay, the thought process there.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Give a correct answer as well.

[Katie]

The. Just say 12. Why go up by 12? You went up by 12.

[Isabella]

Well, you guys are asking how many you think I would get? I would get right?

[Katie]

Yes. How many do you think lies. And why is it bad if I think I'm gonna do well? I don't think. But you. Because you had just said 10 and then you said 22 and I'm just. It doesn't matter.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

It doesn't work.

[Isabella]

All right, so I'll meet in the middle and I say 16.

[Brady]

Great.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

We're aiming for 16. Here we go. Let's start with the Pistons.

[Brady]

The Detroit Pistons once had to forfeit a game because a Ford model T driven onto the court for a halftime promotion stalled out and couldn't get off the court and also couldn't be towed for risk of damaging it.

[Isabella]

Oh. So.

[Katie]

Okay, you got that?

[Isabella]

Yep. Okay.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Next second story. A former player punched his own teammate in the face and broke his own hand.

[Katie]

Okay. All right. And then the third one. The fans were so quiet, the front office had to have a meeting about best practices for using the jumbotron.

[Isabella]

Oh, that sounds believable, but so does the second one. But I could also see you guys making that one up to sound. So I think that's the lie. The middle one, the breaking the hand.

[Katie]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Incorrect.

[Katie]

We're.

[Brady]

Oh, for one. The model T was your made up story.

[Isabella]

Really? Okay, so it was. It was the easier one. Okay. I thought. I was like, I could imagine. I don't know. Maybe there was an ad.

[Katie]

She's like, that's really detailed. There's no way somebody would make up such a stupid detail.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Paragraph.

[Katie]

Chris, I think here's how we should do it. If she guesses a story and that story is not the lie, you tell the story quickly, as quickly as possible. But some of these will be longer. So what was the story there?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

In 1993, Isaiah Thomas, one of the Pistons best players got into a fight with Bill Lane beer during a practice where Thomas break his hand while punching him resulting in a three to eight week absence. I don't know why it says three to eight, but he was out for a while because he broke his hand after punching Bill Lambier.

[Katie]

Be out for he's day to day. 1993.

[Brady]

The density of Bill Lambert's head has to be incredible.

[Katie]

Gotta be tough. Tough thing to punch. Okay, next we gotta move. We got the Toronto Raptors. Are you ready, Isabella? Yep.

[Brady]

Okay, fact number one for the Toronto rapper. Raptors rapper Master P, at the height of his popularity once scored eight points in a preseason game for the Raptors in an effort to make the team.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Okay, the first, the Raptors were the first NBA team to allow fans to watch the game from an in arena bouncy castle.

[Katie]

Okay, and then your third fact here. Two players discovered that they were actually cousins.

[Isabella]

It has to be the bouncy Castle one.

[Paul Scheer]

Damn.

[Katie]

Yeah, you got that? Okay, who's keeping track of how many she gets? Right?

[Brady]

I got it. We're one on the board.

[Katie]

Okay, thank you. One point on the board for Isabella. All right, moving on to a team you may have heard of, the New York Knicks.

[Isabella]

Okay, okay.

[Brady]

The New York Knicks once had their star player suspended for going after an opponent's team bus because their star player allegedly said that his fiance quote, tasted like Honey Nut Cheerios.

[Isabella]

I hope that's true because I would chase that bus as well. Anyway, next, next.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Knicks once had a head coach quit via facts.

[Isabella]

Oh, that does sound believable. Okay, next.

[Katie]

The New York Knicks became the first NBA team to use a three point line in 1964.

[Isabella]

I don't. Is that a lie? That doesn't sound true.

[Brady]

Damn.

[Katie]

Damn, she's good.

[Brady]

Rolling.

[Katie]

What's happening so far?

[Isabella]

I don't.

[Katie]

Okay, wait. But we do have to tell you about Honey Nut Cheerios.

[Isabella]

Yeah, please tell me. Please tell me. I want to know about that one.

[Brady]

Carmelo Anthony at the time was engaged to Lala Vasquez. Nay. Lala.

[Isabella]

Oh, it was him that did it.

[Brady]

Yeah. Kevin Garnett on the court. Allegedly, as the story goes. Allegedly. They've all denied it because probably nobody comes out looking this well. But his trash talk Was telling Carmelo that Lala tasted like honey nut Cheerios. Carmelo didn't like it, got tossed from the game, and then went after the team bus afterwards.

[Katie]

So he.

[Isabella]

Wait, was he just. Wait, was he driving or was he running on foot?

[Katie]

I don't.

[Brady]

He was running on foot.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

A high speed chase.

[Brady]

Coming out of the Garden. The highest speed you can get.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That would be huge.

[Katie]

Chasing him in the bus lane. And the head coach that quit via fax was Pat Riley. He faxed and said, no, thanks. So it's pretty fun. Okay. The Miami Heat.

[Brady]

The Miami Heat once featured a cardboard cutout of their team owner sitting courtside when the team was quarantined due to Covid during the bubble season.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Miami Heat once had a player say on a podcast that he doesn't believe history before 1950.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

From 1985 to 1988, the Heat had the only player in NBA history who was also a working dentist.

[Isabella]

This one's a little tough because the cardboard cutout. We were doing some weird shit during class.

[Katie]

Yeah. So it's kind of believable.

[Isabella]

Oh, man. Okay. And I'm sorry, Chris, can you say yours again?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Miami Heat once had a player say on a podcast that he doesn't believe in history before 1950.

[Isabella]

No way. Is that the lie.

[Katie]

No, it is not.

[Brady]

No, it is not.

[Katie]

Mine is the lie. The lie is that they had a player who was also a dentist. That's not true.

[Isabella]

Oh, that would have been sick, though.

[Katie]

Chris talked to us about the player saying he doesn't believe in history.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

This was actually earlier this year. This was Miami Heat guard Tyler Hero, who expressed on a Twitch livestream that he debated the validity of a lot of historical facts, such as the moon.

[Katie]

Landing 1969, by the way, the moon landing 1969, post 1950.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Good point. And Christopher Columbus's discovery of America. He says, I don't believe in anything that happened before 1950. I don't believe in history. And then when the topic, topic shifted to Christopher Columbus, Hero said, for real? Like, how do we know? When did he come to the land? Or whatever they said 1492. Very confused.

[Katie]

How did he know?

[Brady]

Man's gonna be so confused when World War three comes around.

[Katie]

For real. How do we know? Yeah. When that happens? Whenever that is. Also, I love that at one point he was like, no, I am dead ass. I'm not joking. I mean, this. No history before 1950. Sure. You know, when writing was invented, when jotting things down was invented. All right. Moving on we have the Orlando Magic.

[Brady]

The Orlando Magic once allegedly traded away a player for making a guest appearance on Scooby Doo, which is a Hanna Barbera cartoon, and angered local sponsors at Disney.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Orlando Magic once drafted a Spanish player with the 11th overall pick, but the player opted to stay in Spain for a year or two and never ended up signing with the team or playing a single minute in the NBA.

[Isabella]

That's so detailed. Okay.

[Katie]

And mine is that they had their mascot almost drowned once.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God. I want to pick that one as a lie.

[Katie]

No. Is that a lie? No, it is not.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

At the unveiling of the team's mascot stuff, the Magic Dragon In 1989, the man inside the costume, Dave Raymond, who was the original Philly fanatic.

[Brady]

Oh, big deal.

[Katie]

Nearly drowned as part of the grand entrance. Stuff was supposed to emerge from a giant egg in an inflatable pond. However, the egg malfunctioned, and the heavy costume started sinking in the water.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

Requiring a quick rescue.

[Isabella]

That sounds like my big. I have another biggest fear now is to be the Orlando Magic's mascot and almost drown.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

I like that you tried to save him by praying, essentially, that it was fake.

[Katie]

I was like, no, no, it can't be. That must be the lie. Which one was the lie? Are we making sure we say that at all of them? Which one was the lie?

[Brady]

We are trying. The lie is that they once traded a player for guest appearing on Scooby Doo. Anybody can appear on Scooby Doo. This is a free country.

[Isabella]

That's what I'm saying. I was like, if they did get traded, that's messed up.

[Katie]

Those meddling kids. What? How. What are we at? How many does she have?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Two.

[Katie]

Okay. Wow.

[Brady]

Two for five.

[Katie]

I love that you're both keeping score. I appreciate that. Okay, next up, you may have heard of this team, the Boston Celtics.

[Isabella]

I have indeed.

[Brady]

The Boston Celtics won a 1998 game that ended with just four players playing against five. After 14 total players in that game were ejected due to technical fouls. A game now known as the Boston Tea Party.

[Katie]

Tea like a. Like, tech tea. Wait, Tech the boss. Like a technical foul? A tea party. It's like they got teed up. So the Boston Tea.

[Isabella]

Oh, that sounds cool. I hope that's true.

[Katie]

Okay, Chris.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Boston Celtics once had a coach who would light up a cigar on the sidelines the moment he became confident his team would win.

[Isabella]

That sounds real.

[Katie]

And the Boston Celtics had a star player who was taken off the court in a wheelchair during a finals game, then later returned burned and led the team to victory. People widely believe that he just pooped his pants.

[Isabella]

I think. I think I want this one to be real, but I think the Boston Tea Party is a lie.

[Katie]

Damn. How'd she get that? How'd she get. That Was such a detailed line. I was like, it's like, there's that allowed.

[Isabella]

Four against five.

[Brady]

I don't believe it is. Believe. That would be a complete perversion.

[Katie]

But don't we deserve to find out?

[Brady]

I think we deserve to find out more about the NBA Finals pants pooper.

[Katie]

I mean, really, truly, he has said that's not what it was, but Paul Pierce left the court during a finals game in a wheelchair, and everybody was worried that, like, oh, my God, he's hurt. And then when he came back out and they won, then people were like, wait, so maybe he just pooped his pants?

[Isabella]

That sounds so believable.

[Katie]

And, like, wasn't able to run down the tunnel without it, you know? And so they put him in a wheelchair and took him. It's just crazy to have, like, an amazing story and then have the running narrative be that, no, actually, you just pooped your pants, where you're like, no, I was taken off in a wheelchair. I came back triumphant. We win. And it's like, no, you pooped. We all know that you pooped.

[Brady]

In Paul's defense, the last thing you would want to do is sit in a wheelchair.

[Katie]

Yeah, but I do think the last thing you'd want to do is walk out and have everybody go, I guess.

[Brady]

At that point, there is nothing you want to do.

[Katie]

Is that poop in his pants?

[Isabella]

Yeah, like, I'd rather get shit all over a wheelchair than down the leg.

[Katie]

Damn. Isabella just wanted to say the S word. Damn. She just wanted to be on the naughty list.

[Brady]

Merry Christmas.

[Katie]

Isabella's got coal in her stocking. Okay, let's move on. We're going to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Brady]

The Cleveland Cavaliers once suspended and then traded a player after a team practice where he shot the ball every single time he touched it, no matter where he was standing or how impractical it was to do so.

[Isabella]

I hope that's true. That's so funny. Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Cleveland Cavaliers famously swapped players with the Cleveland Browns in 1995 with two players on each team playing the other's sport for a weekend. Neither Cavaliers player made it onto the field for the Browns, while the two Browns players shot 0 for 7 from the field for the Cavaliers and committed three fouls. This was never attempted Again.

[Isabella]

No way. Okay, Katie.

[Katie]

A player was suspended for one game for throwing soup at an assistant coach during a practice.

[Isabella]

Mm. Okay. I think it's the sports swap.

[Katie]

Damn it.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Good job.

[Katie]

Good job. Good job, Isabella on fire. Good job, Isabella. I mean, that would be crazy.

[Isabella]

Wouldn't that be crazy?

[Katie]

That would be crazy. I love. This was never. They didn't try it. They didn't run it back. That was.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

She was never attempted again.

[Brady]

But I would enjoy seeing Miles Garrett play basketball.

[Katie]

Yeah, me too. Also, we should just say that's Andrew Bynum was the one who shot every time the ball touched his hands. And then they traded him away so.

[Isabella]

Happy that that was in 22.

[Katie]

Shot the ball immediately every time it touched his hands, no matter how absurd the shot happened to be or where he was on the floor. He was traded to the Bulls one week later.

[Brady]

And also, that's Damon Jones, who just got arrested in the NBA's gambling scandal, who threw a bowl of soup at a coach.

[Isabella]

No, it wasn't.

[Katie]

I thought it was. I thought it was J.L.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Smith.

[Katie]

It was J.R. smith.

[Isabella]

Oh, really?

[Brady]

I thought this was Damon Jones. All right.

[Isabella]

I have his jersey, but I have him on when he was on the Knicks.

[Katie]

I believe it was somebody did probably Pablo find out.

[Brady]

I'm sorry. Damon Jones was the assistant coach at the time.

[Katie]

Exactly.

[Brady]

I thought this was Damon Jones while he's still playing.

[Katie]

No, this is when he was coaching and he. This was. I believe we found out that it was chicken tortilla soup.

[Brady]

Oh.

[Katie]

If my memory serves me correctly, Wait.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That'S not actually type of soup.

[Brady]

This is one of many honorable mentions that got cut that involved J.R. smith.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

That is so true.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

We.

[Katie]

Because to do this, we had to pick all the craziest stories and then narrow them down, and a lot of them had to go. And. And that was. He's featured. Yeah. Hot chicken tortilla soup.

[Isabella]

Oh, I'd rather have that than, like, clam chowder, though.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Brady]

The red or the white?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Well, I think you'd always rather have that.

[Isabella]

The red isn't real.

[Katie]

Thank you. I was gonna say, if I acknowledged it as real, I would rather the red, because milk on anything, any creamy product, you do not want to get anywhere because it's just. It sours. But again, that's Manhattan. Clam chowder is a psyop, and I'll die on that hill.

[Isabella]

I've never seen it.

[Katie]

I've never heard of it. Never want to meet it in the wild. Let's go to the Atlanta Hawks. Wow.

[Brady]

The Atlanta Hawks featured the shortest ever winner of the NBA slam dunk contest at five foot seven.

[Katie]

Okay, okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Atlanta Hawks once gave the Sport's first ever 10 year contract to a player who then retired after just 65 games.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

The Atlanta Hawks once fined their own players 500 each for visibly rooting for a player on the team they were playing against. Because he was absolutely going off.

[Isabella]

Wait, what do you mean absolutely going off?

[Katie]

Like he was playing really, really well.

[Isabella]

Oh.

[Katie]

Against their team. And they were rooting for him visibly on the bench. And so they were fined 500 each.

[Isabella]

You said that like it was real.

[Katie]

Isn't that crazy?

[Isabella]

I'm so sorry. My memory. Brady. Can you say yours again?

[Brady]

They had the shortest ever winner of the slam dunk contest. Okay. Five foot seven.

[Isabella]

I think that's the lie.

[Brady]

Nah, you would have loved Spud Web. Tiny little dude dunking the ball.

[Isabella]

Damn. Okay, wait, so, $500?

[Katie]

Yeah. I mean, this was a long time ago. This was in 1985. Larry Bird had an incredible 60 point performance. And they were fined by their coach because players like Doc Rivers, Eddie Johnson and Cliff Levingston were seen on the bench cheering, high fiving and reacting in awe.

[Isabella]

Wait, so the lie was. Oh, the six.

[Brady]

The lie was the ten year contract.

[Katie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that one. I think we tried to just bore you into thinking it was real.

[Isabella]

No, that one sounded real because I.

[Katie]

Was like, I don't know. Athletes like. Athletes do that all the time. Now that she knows about Lane Kiffin, all the doors are open. Yeah, she now knows a 10 year contract means you could be there 30 days exactly.

[Isabella]

Everywhere.

[Katie]

Ho, ho, ho. You know what I'm saying? Okay, moving on. We've got. Okay. This is so hard. This. It was so hard to narrow these ones down for the Philadelphia 76ers.

[Brady]

The Philadelphia 76ers hosted the first ever official furry night at an NBA home game. No.

[Isabella]

No way.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Sick. In fact, the 76ers once got a head coach through a help wanted ad.

[Katie]

Do you know what that is?

[Isabella]

Yeah, like through like a classified ad or something.

[Katie]

Like an ad in the paper that's like we're hiring. Okay, you know what the paper is when I say that that means something to you? Just making sure. Just making sure.

[Brady]

You used to print newspaper.

[Isabella]

Hundred dollar bills, you mean.

[Katie]

It was like a book people would bring to your house every day and it had other stuff in it. Okay. And then mine is a former gm resigned after it was found out that his wife was using multiple burner accounts on Twitter to defend him.

[Isabella]

That sounds believable. I could see a wife going, like, really hard for their husband like that. So I'm going to choose. I just can't believe the furry night. Like, no way. That's the fucking lie. Please tell me that's the lie.

[Katie]

Ok. Man. I didn't even really want it to be real until I saw how badly she needed it to be a lie. I was like, come on, let's give her this. Let's let her know. So one team did once do, like a Tinder night. I remember that. That's the closest I think we've gotten to having a furry night.

[Brady]

That's a terrible idea.

[Katie]

Isabel, we do have to tell you about this. About the Twitter accounts, though. This was a story you would have really love.

[Isabella]

How long ago was this?

[Katie]

Not that long ago. It's 2018. So the. The Sixers had just recently parted ways with a GM that they had for a while. And we thought him leaving was gonna be the craziest story because he wrote a 7,000 word manifesto in which he quoted philosophers and Abraham Lincoln, and then he compared himself to an extinct bird in New Zealand.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Okay.

[Katie]

And so we thought that was gonna be the wacky GM leaving story from the 76ers was this guy, Brian Colangelo, who was a Nepo hire. He. His dad did something important with the Sixers. And. And so the ringer, which is like a. A, a. I don't want to say a blog. It's a website that talks about sports.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Did a story where they said, we found a bunch. There's a bunch of Twitter accounts in the replies to people that only ever defends the gm, which is not the coach. It's not players. It's the gm. A guy that nobody liked.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

But he wasn't really doing anything wrong. You know when you're in a relationship where you're like, I can't really break up. You're not doing anything wrong. I just don't.

[Isabella]

Yeah, it's like you.

[Katie]

So they were like. The team was doing okay, so they were like letting him stay and then. But they found this account where they. Or a bunch of accounts that were only ever defending the gm. And it was like throwing star players under the bus. And they launched an investigation that then they published because Brian Colangelo knew the article was going to be published, but didn't tell anybody. The team, when they found out, they were so mad that he didn't give them a heads up that they were like, we're launching our own investigation. And what they found in the investigation was that, yes, those accounts all traced back to an email that was registered to his wife. One of the accounts traced back to him, but that account had not tweeted anything. So the accounts basically either his wife was the fall guy, which is my deepest NBA conspiracy theory, that he was doing it himself and he blamed his wife, but that's the fact is they traced it back to his wife. I just want to read you some of these tweets.

[Isabella]

That's crazy. Okay, go ahead.

[Katie]

Okay, hold on. I have them open in their own tab. So somebody tweeted an article saying, Brian Colangelo has been misleading, untrustworthy on injuries as Sixers gm. Someone replied, this clown gonna ruin everything Hinky built, which was the GM before him. And the Burner account replied, clown? Why? What did Hinky build? My gosh, the biased insanity. Jesus. Okay, so somebody had replied to an article and said, this dude just love collars. And? And, well, no, because the reply is to Brian Seltzer. It's not to Dartmouth Matt. So I wish we had what Brian Seltzer said. Somebody must have made a comment about how he wears big collars, how he wears weird, strange collars on his shirt. Okay, and one of these burner accounts tweeted, that is a normal caller. Move on, find a new slant.

[Isabella]

Oh, it's definitely him. It's not his wife. His wife does not give that much.

[Katie]

Of a fuck a normal caller. He also. These burner accounts also retweeted something about Matiah Colangelo and also a quote from DeMar DeRozan about his quote unquote mentor, Brian Colangelo, always the smoothest, clean cut, stand up type of guy. His swag was always on 100. Retweeted by one of these burner accounts. Who else would possibly retweet that? Somebody tweeted, colangelo just wanted to make the playoffs before Fultz could play again, blah, blah, blah. He had zero faith that the kid, I'm ready to get rid of B.C. that's disrespectful. And a burner account replied, why are you making a pinocchio emoji and a poop emoji up? This is a blatant lie and you should be ashamed to be spreading it. Putting more hate in the world instead of being happy. The kid is back and Brian Colangelo and BB nursed him back with patience and support. Shame on you, big fat liar. L, I E R. I hope your TV breaks tonight. This is deranged.

[Isabella]

This is deranged. I'm scared. And also, I'm sorry. Those collars look crazy. I'm looking at it right now.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

It's a normal sized collar. Isabella.

[Katie]

Find a new slant. Someone said, I have full respect for everything Rocco has done to get where he is. Suggesting that Hinky. Remember that former GM saw that greatness in him. Takes nothing away from the sheer hard work. Burner account replies, but he didn't and you know it. He brought him here to lose the other guy. Replies, again, that's not true. He brought him here because he saw something special in him. He spent an entire paragraph speaking about it. Specifically in his resignation letter. Burner account said, funny how you remember his resignation letter down to its paragraph. I could not get past the first page. How. Why would you point out that it's funny somebody remembers something that specific about a GM when you Burner account are remembering everything. Everything specific about this GM anyway, they're pretty crazy. Another Burner account tweet, I have no respect for Hinky's martyrdom because it is orchestrated by him behind the curtains via all the bloggers he cultivated with leaks. Brian Colangelo has done nothing but clean up Hinky's mess. Hinky got great pieces but could not make the puzzle work.

[Isabella]

Jesus.

[Brady]

So this is good.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

This is. It's obviously a running bit on the show so far that I am off social media, but at this time I was heavily still on Twitter and it was easily the best night on Twitter that I've ever had.

[Katie]

The best. Aww.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

I'm feeling so much fun.

[Katie]

When the ringer was like, hey, we think we have something here. And people were like, wait, what? Because there's always rumors that somebody is a Burner, right? But this was like, these were real. They were all linked to the same. Just so funny.

[Isabella]

I'm sorry, remind me what team this is.

[Katie]

The Sixers. Anytime there's something happening that's crazy and embarrassing, you can probably just assume. Assume that it's the Sixers.

[Brady]

Gotta believe they really slipped up. The one that really slipped him up was when he tweeted directly at Gabrielle Union. Says, I sat next to you and Dwyane Wade at Beijing Olympics and saw you both being rude, nasty to little kid fan. Had to eat your pizza. What? Boy, maybe don't put yourself physically in places where only you would be.

[Katie]

At some point. Somebody retweeted a tweet by the Burner account. So it was before they knew they retweeted it and Said, this you, Brian? And that burner account replied and said, no, but thanks for the compliment. He is too classy to even engage. Worked with him. He's a class act.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

No, that's not me. But he. I did work with him, and he rules really hard and has the biggest penis I've ever seen in my life.

[Brady]

This is Big Trump's fake secretary from years back that would answer all of his calls. Oh, this is John Barry. Hold on. I will get you down on.

[Katie]

You sound just like Trump. Okay, moving on. We have the Milwaukee Bucks.

[Brady]

Milwaukee Bucks. The NBA had to ban the gigantic balls celebration of one of the Bucs best players, Sam cassell, mandating a $25,000 fine for it.

[Isabella]

What? Can I ask what the ball celebration looked like? Like, or what it is?

[Brady]

So if you were to hold your hands, like, extend your arms downward and hold your hands like you were, like, holding two sacks of flour as low as possible, and then gently right around.

[Katie]

Where your balls would be, and then.

[Isabella]

Just kind of go like that.

[Brady]

Yes.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Oh, okay.

[Katie]

If it's real.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Hypothetically, the Milwaukee Bucks once had a player who posted about receiving a sex bell as a gift for Valentine's Day.

[Isabella]

Wait, a sex bell or a sex spell Bell bell.

[Katie]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I'm ready to have sex now. Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Isabella]

Wait, and they received this from who?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

They received it from a partner.

[Isabella]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

From Valentine's Day.

[Katie]

From a partner, as one does. Okay. And then the Milwaukee Bucks caused a controversy by presenting their players with championship rings made of cheese at their first home game after their most recent championship without making it abundantly clear to all players that real valuable rings would also still be coming later.

[Isabella]

This one's interesting.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

You know, because Milwaukee and Cheese.

[Katie]

Right.

[Isabella]

You know, maybe they were just trying to be cutesy, but is the NBA cutesy Sometimes? I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say the sex bell one is a lie. It is a. Yeah, it's a lie.

[Katie]

Yeah. No, it's not. It's real.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Oh, that was Giannis.

[Brady]

That's Giannis's sex bell.

[Isabella]

Oh, interesting. Okay.

[Katie]

He posted about it, saying that he. What was it? The freak. He can be a freak on the court and on the sheets. You know what I'm saying? Woo. When posted a video.

[Brady]

It's like one of those things people would tweet when, like, Twitter was first invented. You don't want to go back that. Oh, that's way too.

[Katie]

We were just logging on, being, like, had a Sandwich and just, like, stuff that you would never think to say to anybody today.

[Isabella]

So what was the lie?

[Katie]

The lie was that they did not give them a cheese ring. There was no cheese ring. They.

[Isabella]

I thought you were gonna say the.

[Katie]

Ball he did get behind.

[Isabella]

That's crazy. 25k.

[Katie]

Yeah. For having giant balls.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Almost discriminatory, right? What's it his fault? No.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Taken from Major League 2, by the way, a scene from Major League 2. Sam Cassell was watching that movie, thought it was hilarious, and then decided to implement the. That in game.

[Katie]

Brady, you broke containment. You broke our rules. You gave a proper noun. I know you didn't mean to, but watch it. Don't give away the truth. Sam Cassell is to say later, not. Not during the. Saying it in. That's right. Okay, let's go to the Chicago Bulls.

[Isabella]

Fun.

[Brady]

The Chicago Bulls, before basketball was well established in Chicago in the days of yore, hosted wild promotions to sell tickets, including having a human versus bear wrestling match on their grounds.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Chicago Bulls were originally funded by the family of Al Capone, a fact that was not revealed for nearly 40 years.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

And you know who Al Capone is? Okay, good. A player once tried out an experimental hair treatment before a game that made him look like he had shoe polish on his head.

[Isabella]

Mm. I think the. I think the. The. The. The bear and human fight is a lie.

[Katie]

No, ma'. Am.

[Brady]

The bear won. But that did happen.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God. Really?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

And why?

[Brady]

No, I think the bear followed the rules. It was. It was.

[Katie]

It was on the up and up.

[Brady]

Merely a pinfall.

[Isabella]

What the heck? Okay, so then what was the lie?

[Brady]

The lie was the family of Al Capone funding the Chicago Bulls.

[Katie]

Oh, and thank God for that. You know, that would be pretty brutal.

[Isabella]

I don't know what it is. I was like, oh, that sounds, like, kind of interesting. So I want it to keep. Keep it real, you know?

[Katie]

What year was the bear fight?

[Brady]

So when Chris told me the story, I thought, all right, 1948. They were like, post war, America can do anything. 1975. This is a human wrestling a brown bear at a Chicago Bulls game.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God.

[Katie]

And so did anybody die?

[Brady]

I don't think so. They have this. Bear is muzzled.

[Katie]

Okay, that's still. There's still a lot they could do.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

So he's not going to talk, but he might. Might still swipe at you. All right, cool. Oh, I did want to show you that. Carlos Boozer. You should look up Carlos Boozer. I guess if you just googled shoe polish or versus Celtics. So you can see what it looked like.

[Isabella]

Shoe polish. Like hair fiasco.

[Katie]

Oh, it was tough.

[Isabella]

Let's move on.

[Katie]

Okay. Well, he was. I. What? No, this will make her feel better. Maybe we should play her the clip they had him on. Dan Levitard had him on. Highly questionable a few years ago. It was. He was so charming, the way he took it in stride. Chris, can you play that clip?

[Chris]

Yo, I tried to shampoo that thing about seven, eight times, man.

[Brady]

Listen.

[Chris]

So I was in the mirror. You know how you get a cut? You think of you looking.

[Isabella]

I.

[Chris]

Right? So I go in the back, I go to the mirror, I'm thinking I'm gonna look fresh. I said, mommy, get this out of my head. I shampooed like seven times and it still wouldn't come out, bro.

[Brady]

Man.

[Chris]

And then I go to practice, right? Because it happened at night. So I go to the shoot around the next day.

[Brady]

Oh, no.

[Chris]

And all my teammates are like, booze.

[Katie]

What did you do? And then.

[Chris]

And even more funny than that, we're at Boston, you know, kg, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, ESPN games, You know what I mean? And this is when they started putting a little camera through the middle of the court.

[Brady]

So there's like.

[Chris]

It's like the extra HD just popped out on every channel. And I had a hell of a game. I had like 22 points, so the camera was on me anyway.

[Katie]

So funny when he's like. And I had a hell of a game. I had to go off that night. So everybody just kept looking at my stupid hair.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God. That's like when. When you get like those like, eyebrows. Yes, those like eyebrow tattoos or something.

[Katie]

Or like when they get them, we get micro needled or whatever it is that.

[Isabella]

That's called something like that. And then it's like, too dark.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie]

He was like, I'm just scrubbing in the shower, going like, no, I can't go like this. Okay. Moving on to the Charlotte Hornets.

[Brady]

The Charlotte Hornets made the playoffs in four consecutive seasons with four different coaches before going back to the first coach and Then winning only 15 games the following year. Year.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Charlotte Hornets once had a star player who in the mid-90s, had an ad campaign for Converse in which he played a basketball, dressed a basketball, addressed as a. In which he played a basketball. Just basketball.

[Katie]

In which he played basketball.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

I don't know why this one was. So let me start this again. I don't know why this is so difficult.

[Katie]

So funny.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

They once had a star player in the mid-90s who had an ad campaign for Converse in which he played basketball dressed as a 75 year old woman.

[Isabella]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Katie]

And then the Charlotte Horner's name was chosen by a public vote, then taken to New Orleans and then eventually given back.

[Isabella]

These ones sound like. So.

[Katie]

Like it's one of the more boring ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Isabella]

That one was quite exciting, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say the Brady's is a lie.

[Brady]

Mine was a lie. Mine was a lie.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Good job.

[Katie]

Good job. Really good job. Is a lie.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

We're up to six now. Is your Brady.

[Brady]

One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. Six right.

[Katie]

Six right.

[Isabella]

Just ten more.

[Katie]

Keep going, girl. Don't stop. Okay. Moving on to the Brooklyn Nets.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Brady]

The Brooklyn Nets in 1972 signed the NBA's first ever openly communist player.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Nets once traded the draft rights to a future NBA superstar for cash, which was then used to buy a new copy machine.

[Isabella]

No way. Okay, go ahead.

[Katie]

The Brooklyn Nets, I guess at the time were the New Jersey Nets tried to rebrand to the Swamp Dragons in the early 90s.

[Isabella]

Please tell me that's a lie.

[Katie]

Mine. Yeah, that is.

[Brady]

You want them to have signed a communist. Mine was the lie.

[Katie]

Yeah. Brady's was the lie.

[Isabella]

I just thought like Swamp Dragons. I was like, that's.

[Katie]

So in the early 1990s, team executives, in a desperate attempt to boost the franchise's brand, seriously considered changing the team's name to the New Jersey Swamp Dragons. The idea was a full fledged marketing plan, complete with potential new logos and uniform designs. The proposal actually made it to a vote by the NBA Board of governors. The result was 26 to 1 in favor of changing the name. And the only dissenting vote was the owner of the Nets, who got cold feet at the last minute and decided that he did not want to be the Swamp Dragon.

[Isabella]

That's so funny.

[Katie]

Fucking wild story. It got all the way to the vote. Everyone was like, fine, go for it. And he was like, I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna do this.

[Isabella]

Actually, never mind.

[Katie]

Actually, never mind.

[Isabella]

Sorry.

[Katie]

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.

[Isabella]

That was such a stupid idea.

[Katie]

That also does mean that cash was spent on a copy machine. Cash that was acquired. That's right.

[Isabella]

That's crazy.

[Katie]

Crazy, crazy, guys. Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

It was called Korva, by the way, that they.

[Katie]

Yes.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Traded away the draft rights for.

[Brady]

They use this definition of superstar to.

[Katie]

Pay summer league fees and also buy a new copy machine.

[Isabella]

Because sometimes you just need their budgeting team sounds.

[Katie]

Sometimes you just need copies. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Isabella]

I do.

[Katie]

Okay. Okay. Let's move on to the Indiana Pacers.

[Brady]

The Indiana Pacers once had a player ask for a month off so he could go promote his rap album.

[Isabella]

Okay. Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Indiana Pacers once traded one of their players for a marketing executive.

[Isabella]

Ooh. Okay.

[Katie]

The Indiana Pacers impossibly went over six years without a player on their roster with the letter J in their name.

[Isabella]

I think that's the lie.

[Katie]

Damn it. I thought I sold it really well, too, because I'm like. I mean, J's tough. We probably should have picked, like, J. In basketball, there's. Everybody has a J in there. It's. There's a ton of J's.

[Brady]

Well, now there's. It's all Jalen's.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Brady]

All the way down.

[Katie]

All the way down. Jalen's. All the way down. Yeah. That's the. So what did we. Which one do we zoom in on? I feel like the player who asked for the month off has to. Is Meta World Peace.

[Isabella]

Oh, really?

[Brady]

Friend of the program. Meta World Peace, who you have met.

[Katie]

Who we weren't allowed to bring a lot of stuff up with.

[Isabella]

And was it granted?

[Katie]

No, no, no. I actually think he might have gotten his way. Cuz didn't they bench him, like, for asking for it? I think they were like, no. And you can't play for a couple weeks, so it kind of worked out. But not. Not in the same way.

[Isabella]

He's like. That was.

[Katie]

Yeah, be careful what you wish for type of a deal.

[Isabella]

Yeah, yeah.

[Katie]

And they got Eric Spoelstra in a tr. Or. No, his dad. Right. John's Bolstra in a train.

[Isabella]

Isn't that the guy who coaches the Heat?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Wow.

[Katie]

Bella, are you faking it? Are you a basketball expert and you've been faking?

[Isabella]

I just know him because I think he's half Filipino.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Oh, that makes a lot of sense.

[Isabella]

I do know of him.

[Katie]

It's just in your brain, you know? You can't help it. Okay, let's move on to the Washington Wizards.

[Brady]

The Washington Wizards once had Michael Jordan on the team.

[Katie]

That can't be true. Chris.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Washington Wizards once apologized to fans for booking a Smokey Robinson impersonator by accident to play a halftime show instead of the real Smokey Robinson. The team has not won a playoff series since, so that's now known as Smokey's Curse.

[Isabella]

Oh, my. Okay, okay.

[Katie]

And the Washington Wizards once had a player Bring four unloaded guns to the locker room and leave them in front of the locker of a teammate with whom he'd had a disagreement over a card game debt with a note that said, pick one. That player responded by pulling out his own loaded gun.

[Isabella]

That's the lie.

[Katie]

You wish.

[Isabella]

Oh, no.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

No.

[Isabella]

Don't you wish? Was it Smokey?

[Katie]

Smokey was the lie. Yes. Oh, the. The guns incident is real. Gilbert Arenas, who we have talked about before.

[Isabella]

The lunch bag, right?

[Katie]

Yes.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Who cannot guarantee will be alive by the time this airs. So just in case he's lasted longer.

[Katie]

Than Gilbert, I will snitch. Arenas.

[Isabella]

That's what it said on his bag, right? Or something.

[Katie]

Yeah, something. Something like informant or something. Whatever it was that he did, giving.

[Brady]

A heads up to the mob that he will be snitching on them just.

[Katie]

So they're cool with it. Yeah. In 2009, he was in a spat with his teammate Javerius Crittenton.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie]

And. And they pulled guns on each other. Coming in with four unloaded guns and saying, pick one is crazy. Pulling out a gun and being like, I choose this one is even crazier.

[Isabella]

They, like, matched each other's, like, crazy energy.

[Katie]

Yes. Yes. Okay. Amazing and incredible. The Oklahoma City. Oh, wait. Should we take a break now? Is this a good time for a break?

[Brady]

Sure.

[Katie]

Or do we. Are we not doing breaks today?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

We could do another break.

[Katie]

You know, we might as well. Halfway through as we start the western conference here, we might as well take a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna keep going. Where's she at? Let's. Where's she at? With lies.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Seven.

[Katie]

She's got seven. Which means that if she were to get seven in the next conference, then she'd be at four. What did you say you were gonna get?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Sixteen.

[Katie]

Okay, so it wouldn't be enough. So you gotta step it up here, Isabella.

[Isabella]

God damn it.

[Katie]

Any. Any halftime adjustments.

[Isabella]

Just gotta lock in.

[Katie]

That's absolutely right. And we will lock in right after this.

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[Katie]

Welcome back. We're gonna fly through these because I believe we're already around an hour on this podcast and we knew this would happen. But it's Christmas. Christmas. It's Christmas and we're goofing. Let's go to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

[Brady]

The Oklahoma City Thunder formerly played in Seattle as the Supersonics, where they were led by the Rain Man, Sean Kemp.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Thunder once had a player find $25,000 for wearing a T shirt to a post game press conference with the words fuck art, let's dance.

[Isabella]

Wait. Okay.

[Katie]

The Oklahoma City Thunder introduced a failed team branded lingerie line in 2018 called Thunderwear, including marketing language about thunder wire bras.

[Isabella]

That has to. That's the lie.

[Katie]

It is? Yes. Damn it. She always knows when I'M lying. I'm a bad liar.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Well, actually, because it's the last one probably whenever you're reading it.

[Isabella]

Yeah, I know that. The. This. They were the Supersonic, so.

[Katie]

Okay. See, we couldn't get that past her. We did try to sneak some by you that, like. I'm proud of you for. For knowing.

[Isabella]

Wait, I just want to know really quickly, who was the player with the T shirt?

[Katie]

Jalen Williams.

[Brady]

One of the Jalen Williams's?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Ah, okay.

[Brady]

I believe it was Jalen Williams. Good.

[Katie]

That was this year, right? That was against the earlier this year. Yeah. Also, dance is an art.

[Isabella]

That's what I was saying.

[Katie]

I was like, please. And I know Chris knows that. Chris knows that more than anybody. Chris loves to dance. He loves scrolling social media and shaking his ass. Those are the two things Chris loves. And bad movies or movies that are really obscure and probably very good, but that no one has ever heard of. Okay, moving on to. Is that the. The Lackers. How do you say? The Los Angeles Lakers. You may have heard of them since.

[Brady]

There'S no lakes in Los Angeles.

[Katie]

Isabella. Here we go. Los Angeles Lakers.

[Brady]

The Los Angeles Lakers had a star player miss the first quarter of a game in 1990 because he was being booked for solicitation of a prostitute. He returned, scored 24 points in the final three quarters, and the Lakers won. The player had been calling the number of an escort service that had closed, and the number was being answered by police in the easiest sting ever.

[Katie]

Okay, okay, that's one.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The second fact. Instead of his standard rate for 1997's the Bucket List, Jack Nicholson reportedly negotiated a small ownership stake in the lake. And on the contingency that the movie earned $200 million at the box office. Domestically, it fell $25 million short. Nicholson got nothing.

[Katie]

Okay, does that make sense? Okay. The Lakers won three championships with a pair of star players who then feuded and split, culminating in one freestyling a diss track on the other at a club four years later titled tell me how my ass tastes.

[Isabella]

Damn. That one's actually kind of hard. I was gonna say, wait, have the Lakers won that many times? I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, Brady's is the lie now.

[Brady]

Now James Worthy wishes it would, but that is very much true.

[Katie]

If it's all about winning is so funny. The cops are like, no one's going to call this. What a waste of a sting. Phone rings. They're like, what?

[Brady]

Hello? Hey, is this the hookers? Yeah, come on down. The.

[Katie]

The lie there Was the Jack Nicholson contract.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Which means that. Tell me how my ass taste. Very real. Very much a real.

[Isabella]

I'll look it up.

[Katie]

Shaq and Kobe, Two names you may have heard of.

[Isabella]

Of.

[Katie]

Yeah, dude, I don't. We won't. We can't probably afford the rights to play it, right?

[Isabella]

So, you know, with the Jack Nicholson one, there was numbers going on, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katie]

Even me who was reading it was like, I'm lost in this. I don't know what we're talking about.

[Isabella]

People just be gambling or whatever, doing whatever.

[Katie]

Money just be crazy. Money do be like that sometimes. So much of it. All right, moving on to the Houston Rockets.

[Brady]

The Houston Rockets once had their general manager cost the NBA an estimated $200 million in business just by tweeting the words, quote, stand with Hong Kong.

[Isabella]

Okay?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Houston Rockets once simultaneously employed both the world's tallest basketball player and the world's shortest security guard.

[Isabella]

Okay?

[Katie]

The Houston Rockets had a player who was kicked out of the 2020 NBA bubble for having a girl in his room. Only made more interesting by the fact he had a whole wife. She wanted to come to the bubble with him, and he said no.

[Isabella]

Ooh, I'm gonna say the security guard one is a lie. Damn you.

[Brady]

Is a lie.

[Katie]

You got it. You got it.

[Isabella]

I was like, how do they even keep track of that?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

This guy is officially the world's shortest security guard.

[Katie]

Believable. Right up until the last two words.

[Isabella]

Like, who was that interested to know.

[Katie]

How tall the security guard was in comparison? Sort of is inventory. Why are we checking this? Why the security guard's like. And why are you weighing me again? What is this for?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Isabelle, you're up to nine, by the way.

[Katie]

Oh, nice job. Good job, Isabelle. By the way, the. The player, Daniel House, who was kicked out of the bubble for. He denies having a girl in his room. But the girl was a. One of the COVID test takers.

[Brady]

She's very thorough.

[Katie]

I mean, she got up in him. Why didn't he get to do the. He should only be able to reciprocate. You know what I mean? Remember when they were still shoving those things up into your nose?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah.

[Katie]

All the way up to your brain.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Yeah. You know what I meant. Okay, moving on. Let's go to the San Antonio Spurs.

[Brady]

The San Antonio spurs nearly traded their star point guard in 2010 because the team found out he was having an affair with the wife of a beloved former teammate while he was still married to the star of desperate Housewives.

[Isabella]

Ooh, this is messy.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The San Antonio spurs once released a top draft pick just a year into his career after discovering he was repeatedly exposing himself to the team therapist during sessions.

[Isabella]

Wait, exposing physically or exposing himself emotionally?

[Katie]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. He wasn't baring his soul. He was in this scenario. Was it a crime to be vulnerable?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Good point, Isabella.

[Isabella]

I was like, I'm kind of forbid.

[Katie]

A man let his walls down. It's therapy. God damn, that's funny. But we don't know if it's real because I still have to say mine.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

The San Antonio spurs had a player once miss a game due to personal reasons, only to be suspended later when video was discovered of him singing karaoke of Evanescence's My Immortal at a bachelor party.

[Isabella]

That has to be. That's a lie.

[Katie]

Yeah, you. Why do you keep doing that? Let me lie convincingly. Come on.

[Isabella]

Come on.

[Katie]

You're an innocent son.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

What gave that one away?

[Katie]

I know. Was it the song? Was it the specificity? No, the fact that we didn't say what he was suspended for. But why?

[Brady]

Was it Bring Me to Life? She would have bought it.

[Katie]

Yeah, I think you would have. I think in this situation, it was that he was suspended because he acted like he said it was.

[Brady]

Personal reasons.

[Katie]

Had to miss the game because of something personal.

[Isabella]

Oh, I forgot that part.

[Katie]

But it turned. Yeah, the key part. I should have. Okay, that's a good note. And I'll emphasize that part next time we run back this exact same thing.

[Isabella]

Yeah, because after you said personal reasons, I forgot about it once. You said for karaoke, and I was like, what's wrong with singing your heart out?

[Katie]

God, is there anything better than singing My Immortal at karaoke? It really is. You just got to let it out. All right, let's move on to the Denver Nuggets.

[Brady]

The Denver Nuggets once had a general manager show up to a press conference in a Hawaiian shirt where he announced his own firing and served up a champagne toast with his wife to celebrate getting paid to not work for the next three years.

[Isabella]

I want it to be true. Okay, next.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Denver Nuggets once wore red and green jerseys. They did this exactly once before discovering that they rendered the ball invisible to colorblind opponents. The Nuggets won that game by 20.

[Isabella]

Oh, okay.

[Katie]

The Denver Nuggets accidentally appeared to publicly hang their mascot from the rafters during a pre game ceremony in 2013.

[Isabella]

Sorry, say that again.

[Katie]

The Denver Nuggets accidentally appeared to publicly hang their mascot from the rafters during A pre game ceremony in 2013.

[Isabella]

That's the lie.

[Katie]

No, it is not. What again, you're trying to.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Will be wild for us to make that one up.

[Katie]

I do feel like we should show you video, but I do know we don't have the ability to do that and it would be bad for the audio listener. Rocky the mountain lion was being lowered down from the rafters to do his big pregame ceremony. And while he was coming down, he passed out. The guy inside the suit. Sorry, spoiler alert. There's a guy inside the suit. He passed out. And so he was just hanging. Oh. But he was still above the court, so they had to keep lowering him to the court.

[Brady]

And when he Limp mountain lion body.

[Katie]

When he gets down to the court, you just see his legs hit and crumble and he just sort of folds into a pile or.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God. And was he okay?

[Katie]

He was okay.

[Isabella]

He.

[Katie]

We wouldn't be saying it if he didn't end up okay.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Really good. Really good stuff.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

So which one? Isabella then?

[Isabella]

Didn't I already second guess?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

She got a second guess.

[Isabella]

Oh, which one is.

[Katie]

Oh, no, she. I thought you picked that. It was mine and I said that it wasn't a lie. Yeah, so what do you mean? Chris, what are you doing?

[Brady]

Oh, we tell her what the lie is. The lie is the red and green jerseys fooling colorblind opponents. They really did have a general manager, Doug Moe, who, when the team got sold, they let him go with three years on his con left on his contract. And he was just psyched about. About it.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

It's so funny.

[Brady]

Three years of salary, I was going.

[Isabella]

To say that sounds believable, right?

[Katie]

Okay, let's go to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

[Brady]

The Minnesota Timberwolves in 2002 played the postseason using Lou Vegas Mambo number five as their theme song. Re recorded to include the names of each player, replacing the women and using Kevin Garnett's. Kevin Garnett's name seven times.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Minnesota. The. The Timberwolves name was selected over the polar.

[Katie]

Like polar bear Polar is what he's saying just to help out.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

As I was saying, I'm like, this is gonna understand via fan vote. In 1986, following former pro teams in Minnesota named the Lakers the Pipers and the Muskies.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

The Minnesota Timberwolves mascot is named after a candy bar.

[Isabella]

And the mascot's name is.

[Katie]

That's why I don't have to. Why would I tell you that? Okay.

[Isabella]

I'm gonna say the candy bar.

[Katie]

No, that's real. His name is Crunch the wolf and he's named after the A Crunch bar. Really not all that creative.

[Brady]

I really wish we had the opportunity to play you the Minnesota Timberwolves mambo number five, but it does not exist.

[Isabella]

If it sounded believable, I was like, yeah, it sounds like something a team would do for fun.

[Katie]

You know, my favorite part of that story is that I know that Brady the lie was written, that Kevin Garnett's name was in there eight times and live. Brady decided to edit that down to seven. And I'm so curious to know what made you think that made the lie.

[Brady]

More believable in real time.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

8.

[Katie]

Too much 7, though. 7's doable.

[Brady]

There's no laughs in a perfect cube.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

If. If Brady said 8, I'm sure Isabella would have sniffed.

[Katie]

She would have gone, oh, no way.

[Brady]

Seven garnets never ate.

[Katie]

Seven garnets dancing. All right, let's move on to the Phoenix Suns.

[Isabella]

Oh, my favorite.

[Katie]

Wait, what are we at? Actually, how many does she have? Right?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

10 according to my count. Do you have the same, Brady? I've got 10. Cool.

[Katie]

10. But you've got a number of teams remaining, so don't get nervous yet.

[Isabella]

Okay?

[Katie]

Okay. What did I say? The Phoenix Suns.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yes.

[Katie]

Okay, here we go.

[Brady]

The Phoenix Suns in 1987 had three current players and two former players indicted for cocaine trafficking in the same drug bust. An investigation known as White Heat. They would go on to miss the playoffs.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Phoenix Suns once made headlines when the team's mascot, the gorilla, dunked off of a trampoline at halftime and removed his head, revealing himself to be a 51 year old David Hasselhoff.

[Katie]

Okay, do you know who that is? You know who that is? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The Phoenix Suns, one of the greatest point guards in team history, went on to become the mayor of Sacramento, where he would eventually punch a man at a charity event for pying him in the face.

[Isabella]

I think that David Hasselhoff is a lie.

[Katie]

Yeah, she's right.

[Isabella]

No way.

[Katie]

It wasn't Hasselhoff.

[Isabella]

And you know, people love to become a mayor.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

That I did not expect.

[Katie]

Right?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

So true love to become.

[Katie]

So people do be out here loving becoming the mayor. They're like, I'm gonna be a mayor.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Telling that Isabella out here, I'm gonna be a mayor.

[Isabella]

I'm gonna be a mayor, too. Why not?

[Katie]

It was a coconut cream pie. Somebody unexpectedly hit him in the face with a coconut cream pie.

[Isabella]

That's a good one. To pie someone.

[Katie]

Which. Right. But it. It was people Thought it was a bit, and then it wasn't. And so the mayor punched the pie. He punched him. And the pie thrower was charged with assault. Oh, and then unrelated, semi related, the mayor would later step down due to sexual assault allegations. Yay. So that's. So that's fun.

[Brady]

Next, the Golden State Warriors.

[Katie]

That's right, the Golden State Warriors.

[Brady]

After their third championship of the 2010s, the warriors had a coach drunkenly admit at their post game celebration, quote, I stopped drawing up plays two years ago. This isn't that hard. They then won one more championship.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Golden State warriors once suspended their star player for a whole season after he choked his coach and threatened to kill him when the coach told him to put a little mustard on his passes.

[Katie]

Okay, okay. And then, I mean, we really kind of went with a theme here. A player on the warriors once drove his car and parked it in front of the opposing team's bus as it was trying to leave the area so that he could fight somebody on the bus.

[Isabella]

I think it was. I think it was Chris's. That's a lie.

[Katie]

Which is the Chris. Which was yours?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The star player choking his coach and threatening to kill him. You're wrong, Isabelle. Latrell Sprewell choked out PJ Calissimo.

[Isabella]

Oh, shit.

[Brady]

Former Nick Latrell Sprewell.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Brady]

The Knicks saw this, and we're like, all right, come play for us.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

After he choked Carlissimo and his teammates got him away from him.

[Isabella]

Him.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Latrell Sprewell left practice, but returned 20 minutes later and landed a glancing blow on Carlissimo's face before having to be pulled away again.

[Katie]

And another thing. Punch. And then they're like, okay, you really have to go.

[Isabella]

So what was the lie?

[Katie]

You have got to get out of here.

[Brady]

The lie was Steve Kerr did not say, I stopped drawing up plays two years ago.

[Katie]

This isn't that hard.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

It sounds very Steve Kerr, Though, to.

[Katie]

Be honest, it also just sounds so possible to go like, hey, they won another champion after that. Yeah, entirely possible. All right, let's move on.

[Isabella]

That's what I would do. I would just stop doing plays and, like, writing them up. Just be like, yeah, we win.

[Katie]

Unless you're looking to hire her as coach, then she'll. She'd never stop. She's just joking. She's just joking. She is still the number one candidate who remains without a job in the NBA. But they're coming for you, Isabella. I just know it, okay? With promises like shooting 90% from the field, they have to come for You. Eventually.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Isabella. We've only got seven teams left, so you're gonna have to.

[Katie]

How many does she have?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

A pretty good strike. She's got 11 at the moment with seven teams left.

[Katie]

Seven teams left. And you need to. In order to hit your own goal, you need five more.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Okay, five out of seven.

[Katie]

Five out of seven. So let's go. You got this. Let's do the Memphis Grizzlies.

[Brady]

The Memphis Grizzlies in 2022 had their home scorekeeper accused of falsifying scoring results to increase the defensive stats of one of their best players and boost his candidacy for Defensive Player of the Year.

[Katie]

Okay, that makes sense to you? You don't have any. That makes sense. Okay, great.

[Isabella]

That sounds real cool.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Memphis Grizzlies had to suspend its star player twice for a total of 33 games for playing with guns on Instagram.

[Isabella]

Ooh. Okay.

[Katie]

The Memphis Grizzlies first star, Bryant Reeves played under the nicknames Dunky Brewster, the Mad Cantaloupe, and Big Bri Bricky Brack.

[Isabella]

I. Ooh, that's hard because sometimes athletes have weird nicknames that. I like. Playing with guns on Instagram Live, though. I don't know. People just do stuff. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say that one's the lie.

[Katie]

Which one?

[Isabella]

The. The gun buttons on Instagram Live.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Incorrect.

[Isabella]

No.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Ja Morant just continues to flaunt his obsession with firearms when he shouldn't be.

[Brady]

The lie was that Bryant Reeves never went by Dunkie Brewster, the Mad Cantaloupe, or Big Bri Bricky Brack. He was Big Country Bryant Reeves nowhere.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Near as good as the Mad Cantaloupe.

[Katie]

Big Bry Bricky Brack is. I could not say with a straight face. I was like, shit, I'm gonna give this away again. I just want the record to reflect I l. She bought it.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Finally.

[Katie]

Finally. Right? There's no Did. We give.

[Isabella]

So that means I have to get the next. The next one.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

You've only got room for one more error.

[Katie]

Yeah. You still control your own destiny, though.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Okay. Let's go to the Portland Trailblazers.

[Brady]

The Portland Trailblazers once had a 7 foot 4 inch man threaten to sue a 7 foot 3 inch teammate after a fight in practice. He then subsequently went to the locker room and attacked him with a wooden pole.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Portland Trailblazers were unofficially nicknamed the Jailblazers for a period of time due to run ins with the law, including when they once had a player get caught stealing a set of team issued luggage from a Rookie player that had been placed directly in front of his locker in the locker room.

[Isabella]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Katie]

The Portland Trailblazers once had a player retire to focus on a run for Serbian prime minister, only to lose and return a year later to post his career high in rebounds.

[Isabella]

Like deciding between yours and Chris's. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with yours, Katie. Yours is the lie.

[Katie]

And then she's right back at it.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

She's right back sniffing me.

[Katie]

You better hope I'm telling lies for the rest of the. So you can get him. All right.

[Brady]

Although I'm convinced if Jokic wanted to run for Serbian prime minister, the man could just get.

[Katie]

Yeah, but there's no way. He wants to. He barely wants to play basketball.

[Brady]

Just wants to ride his horse.

[Katie]

Just wants to ride his horse. And he love parade. I do love parade. Okay, great. Let's move on to the Utah Jazz.

[Brady]

The Utah Jazz had a previous owner before their current owner sat courtside while eating an entire rotisserie chicken with just his hands.

[Katie]

Sick. Respect. Next.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

In 1977, the Utah Jays became the first NBA team to officially draft a female player, although she could not participate in training camp because she immediately found out she was pregnant.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

In a fact that everyone constantly sweeps under the rug, the most prolific scorer in Utah Jazz history impregnated a 13 year old girl when he was 20. And when a court ordered him to pay $125 a week in child support in 1986, he told the judge that was, quote, excessive.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Isabella's face.

[Isabella]

I think it's the. The hiring the female player is a lie.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Incorrect.

[Katie]

Incorrect.

[Brady]

Rotisserie chicken was the lie.

[Isabella]

Damn. Oh, I kind of forgot about that one. I just loved it so much. I moved on.

[Katie]

She's like normal. Next. I would do that. I would absolutely do that. Second thought, what's weird about that?

[Isabella]

Oh, okay.

[Katie]

Shout out. Is it Lucia Harris?

[Brady]

Lucia Harris.

[Katie]

Yeah, Shout out Lucia Harris.

[Brady]

Really? This is a long exercise to just remind people that Carl.

[Katie]

About Carl Malone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine if I made that up, Isabella. Imagine if the lie was that a guy on the team impregnate. That would be a pretty brutal lie.

[Isabella]

I was like, what the.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Crazy.

[Isabella]

Crazy. Yeah.

[Katie]

But 125 bucks a week? Pretty excessive. Let's move on to the Dallas Mavericks.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Brady]

The Dallas Mavericks once had a player go viral for leaving the locker room at halftime to go get a hot dog in the media cafeteria.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The Dallas Mavericks once lost to the Harlem Globetrotters in an exhibition game and later issued an Official statement calling the results invalid and that they will not recognize games that permit buckets of confetti on the court as official.

[Isabella]

Okay, okay.

[Katie]

The Dallas Mavericks once had their owner call out a reporter who claimed he was, quote, driving around downtown Dallas begging DeAndre Jordan's family for an address to DeAndre's home, end quote, so they could negotiate a new free agent contract. The owner, citing that he would know his own player's address, tweeted back. That's the dumbest I've ever heard.

[Isabella]

Okay. I think the lie is because I could low key leaving halftime and getting a hot dog. Why not? I think it's.

[Katie]

Wait. Oh, yeah, he did say that. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Keep going. Yeah.

[Isabella]

Is the. I think it's the confetti one. That's a lie.

[Brady]

It is the confetti one. Good job, confetti one. We're getting there.

[Katie]

Yes. I mean, Chris did mention that your. It was one of your favorite nights on Twitter was when the Brian Colangelo thing was happening. One of my favorite days on Twitter was the DeAndre George Jordan situation that was happening. He was in free. He was in free agency, Isabella. This was in 2015. He had verbally committed to the Mavs, but then he got wooed back to the Clippers by his teammates who, like, locked him. Did they lock him in his house?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah, and they.

[Katie]

His, like, teammates came in and locked him in his house and then were like all tweeting emojis at each other. They call it emoji gate because they were all using emojis like the airplane and a rocket and a basketball to try to persuade him to stay in la. I specifically remember Paul Pierce tweeting a PNG image or like a JPG image of an emoji, which was like, dude, Paul, so old. It was fantastic. The whole thing really unfolded. Absolutely ridiculous. Hard to believe now, but I do love Mark Cuban being like, obviously, I know where my player lives. Very funny defense of what was a raucous, wild night in the NBA. Okay, moving on. I mean, not that it's unrelated, but to the LA Clippers.

[Brady]

The LA Clippers were originally owned by Martin Fluor, the founder of Hair Cuttery. And even after multiple sales of the team, they have continued to offer fans free haircuts on game day.

[Isabella]

Interesting.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Okay, the LA Clippers released a franchise legend in the early hours of the morning because of a feud that he had with his head coach.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

A player who was excused from the 2020 NBA bubble for a funeral. Because remember in the in Covid season they made them all quarantine together and stay in the bubble bubble for. For. So they could keep playing basketball. Feels important. They let him leave for a funeral. And then he got caught partying at a strip club because Jack Harlow posted a picture on his Instagram story.

[Isabella]

Oh.

[Katie]

Do you want us to review what those were? So you have them?

[Isabella]

Yeah, yeah, let's review them.

[Brady]

The team was originally owned by the founder of Haircutter and offers free haircuts on game day.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Okay, maybe Chris the Clippers once released a franchise legend in the early hours of the morning because he had a feud with the head coach.

[Isabella]

That sounds true.

[Katie]

And then Jack Harlow posting a picture on Instagram that showed a player who was supposed to be at a funeral was actually at a strip club.

[Isabella]

I think it's the haircuts.

[Katie]

She got it.

[Brady]

I did a comeback here.

[Isabella]

Chris sounded. That one sounded like what just happened with Paul Pierce. Not right. Is it Paul?

[Katie]

No.

[Isabella]

Chris.

[Katie]

Paul.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

You don't want to. Good job.

[Katie]

Good job, Isabella.

[Brady]

Paul Knower.

[Katie]

Good job. And Paul Knower. She knows all the.

[Isabella]

What's his name? Isn't it, like. Is it Lawrence? What's the. Or not Lawrence. Sorry, I'm mixing names. What's the coach's name right now? Or the owner?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Ty Lou.

[Katie]

Ty Lou's the coach. Who are you thinking of?

[Isabella]

No, no, no. Who made the announcement with. With the Clippers that. That Chris Paul's not on the team right now?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Yeah, Lawrence Frank.

[Katie]

Oh, Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank. The president. The pobo. You know, the Clippers.

[Isabella]

It was so my boyfriend sat me down and was like, I need you to watch, and I need to explain to you what just happened. So that's why. I know what's. What happened.

[Katie]

That's really funny.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

I'm impressed by the way two teams left. Isabella is on 14.

[Katie]

Okay? So if you. Isabella, you got this.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Okay, here we go. Let's go to the. I almost just said LA Kings. Let's go to the Sacramento Kings.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Brady]

The Sacramento Kings shoot a purple laser beam into the sky from their stadium after every victory.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Angered by an egregious foul call, the Sacramento Kings once had a player lay down on his stomach in a starfish pose at center court and would not move until four security guards had to pick him up and take him away.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

The Kings had a player who developed a severe case of tendonitis from excessive use of a Nintendo Game Boy.

[Isabella]

Ooh. You know, sometimes you can really get caught up on those games.

[Katie]

So true.

[Isabella]

You know, but tendinitis, maybe arthritis. I Think.

[Katie]

I think there's so much riding on this. Just to review. Purple laser beam after every win. Guy laying down as a starfish in the center of the core. And a guy getting tendonitis from excessive use of a Game Boy.

[Isabella]

I think it's the starfish.

[Katie]

It is the starfish. This is goodness.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

This is perfect. Perfectly crafted up.

[Katie]

I'm so excited.

[Brady]

Come back for the ages.

[Katie]

Throw up.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

I also feel like you were about to say the Game Boy until I reviewed and reminded you about the starfish. So I'll take the assist on that.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie]

Okay, okay. Our last team, the New Orleans Pelicans. Here we go.

[Brady]

The New Orleans Pelicans need, like, that Regis Philbin music. Like, the real intense behind it. The New Orleans Pelicans. Past minority owners of the Pelicans include Harry Connick Jr. Chef Paul Prudhomme, and Joanna Cole, the creator of the Magic School Bus children series.

[Isabella]

Okay, that one's gonna be hard. All right, next.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

The New Orleans Pelicans once had a fan sneak his way onto the court and pretend to be a player during the team warm ups. For 21 seconds, he stretched, took a shot, got away with it.

[Katie]

Okay, okay. The New Orleans Pelicans have multiple mascots. One of them is King Cake Baby, a giant, topless, scary baby with a crown and a bib.

[Isabella]

God damn it. I wish I paid attention to the Pelicans because I have no idea.

[Katie]

So to review. And Isabella, if she gets this meets the most important goal ever set by herself at the beginning of this podcast, it's either past minority owners include Harry Connick Jr. A chef, and the lady who created Magic School Bus. The Pelicans had a fan sneak his way onto the court and pretend to be a player during warmups. He took a shot and got away with it. Or a mascot named King Cake Baby, who is a giant, topless, scary baby with a crown and a bib.

[Isabella]

I think it's that one. The. The baby.

[Katie]

You think that the lie.

[Isabella]

The lie is the baby.

[Katie]

Are you sure?

[Isabella]

Are you helping me out?

[Katie]

Are you sure? Is it.

[Isabella]

Is it the player that walked onto the corner?

[Katie]

Are you.

[Brady]

Oh, wait.

[Isabella]

Actually, you know what? It might be the magic School Bus 1.

[Brady]

Whoa.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Isabella, great job, dude.

[Isabella]

I'm so good.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

How did you guess that one?

[Katie]

She's so smart.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Thanks.

[Isabella]

Oh, my God.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Great job. At the buzzer, five of six for the winner.

[Katie]

Incredible.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Out of all, I bought a court shot.

[Katie]

She got 16 of them. Correct. Yay.

[Isabella]

Shout out me.

[Katie]

Shout out Isabella.

[Isabella]

Also the baby. I never want to see that dude.

[Katie]

Please pull it up. It's the ug. Ugliest, scariest, most terrifying thing you've ever seen. Is it still. Do they still use this mascot? When they announced everybody be like, uniformly. Isabella was like, oh, my God, it's haunted.

[Isabella]

It's haunted for sure.

[Katie]

Imagine it coming up to your child. Get the away from my baby.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Kids are scared enough about mascots. My goodness, that one sucks.

[Brady]

It is serious. Five nights at Freddy thing.

[Katie]

I get the culture. I understand. King cake, baby. You hide it in a king cake and they find it. Isn't that a Mardi Gras tradition? Yeah, but to. But to have the baby look like that is crazy.

[Brady]

That's more offensive than a furry night at an NBA. That's more terrifying.

[Katie]

Truly. Oh, Isabella, how do you feel?

[Isabella]

I feel so good. I feel so good.

[Katie]

Aw.

[Isabella]

And I learned a lot. Little bit more about the teams.

[Katie]

Each team. You now know at least one crazy thing that has happened in their past.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Let's just hope that you can remember which ones were real and which ones were fake.

[Katie]

That's so true. I was thinking about that while we were recording, where I'm like, we've really got to be clear which ones are fake? So nobody goes. You know, I heard on a podcast that the lady who wrote Magic School Bus was actually a minority owner of the Pelicans at one point. She's not even from there. Is she from there?

[Brady]

She's not. The other two are.

[Isabella]

I just made. That's why I was like, I don't know where she's from.

[Katie]

Maybe. No, that's brilliant. What a fun. That's so, so fun. I also imagine we must have missed some. So if your team has an ins. An incredibly crazy story that you can't believe was not brought up here, feel free to email that to us. It's casuals with katienolangmail.com or what you could do that we'd really love is you could call and leave us a voicemail about it. 646-810-0043 and if you feel like I don't. I mean, I wouldn't recommend you go to IG or TikTok and comment about it. We're not going to find that most likely, but if you do want to do that, it's at Casuals, the podcast. I didn't write anything in the doc for how to wrap this up, but I. I do feel like we should say something Christmassy before we let everybody go. Do we want to say our favorite Christmas? God, Chris, you make me so nervous. Because if I say favorite Christmas movie and you're like, you know, we already know what yours is.

[Isabella]

Tradition, remember?

[Katie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Christmas tradition. So we'll share a quick Christmas. What I'm doing right now, theoretically, as you guys are listening to this, is driving across the country, a new Christmas tradition that Dan and I started a couple years ago, where we put ourselves and Myrtle and pretty much everything we own into a car. We drive it to Chicago, stopping halfway in between, and then we. Where my brother lives in Chicago with his wife and baby, and my parents meet us out there. We do Christmas early, and then we drive further, stopping halfway in between, we drive out to Denver. Denver, where his mom lives. And we spend Christmas out there. And then we come all the way back, we stop in Chicago again, and then we come. It's a whole thing. And you'll hear about it. Actually, at this point, they will have heard it, at least an episode of it. Because, Dan, everything went well. I know.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Hopefully.

[Katie]

Fingers crossed. Dan and I, the last two years, have recorded for his podcast. And so I told him this year he owes me. And so that's what we have already done and you've listened to earlier this week. What about you, Brady?

[Brady]

Brady, my wife's brother and his husband are coming up from South Carolina. We're gonna get the family here together at our house. We're gonna hang around for the entirety of Christmas Eve in some pajamas and eat and drink and be merry, and we'll rip open some Christmas presents and go see my side of the family on Christmas Day. It's a lot of travel, a lot of family, and I'm just usually exhausted by the middle of Christmas.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Christmas Day.

[Katie]

Hell yeah.

[Brady]

Fun.

[Katie]

Hell, yeah.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Chris, we're traveling.

[Katie]

You do Christmas where you're from?

[Brady]

Usually surf on Christmas.

[Katie]

Oh, you're coming up here sucks. It doesn't suck, like, for your family or whatever. It sucks because I'm not gonna be. I'm leaving.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Finally. I know. Finally. Coming up.

[Katie]

Damn, that stinks.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Didn't plan it well. But, yeah, we'll be. We'll be in Jersey for a nice Italian American Christmas.

[Katie]

So do you guys do the fish on Christmas Eve?

[Chris (NBA expert)]

We don't actually.

[Katie]

Italian American because it's very Italian.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

That is very Italian. For some reason. They don't do that specifically.

[Katie]

Yeah, us either. I don't. We're not a big fish family. We don't really know how to cook. And you got to be pretty skilled to make the fish not suck.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

I feel it's a great point. Thankfully, My wife's family are all great cooks. They've all owned a bunch of different restaurants like that. So we, we are surrounded by good cooks. But I guess fish just isn't the go to for them, which is fine because what we do get is delicious and I don't want them to change anything.

[Katie]

What's your big thing on Christmas day? Like what's the big. Is it a ham? Yeah, yeah, I think we do that too. I don't remember. Oh no, because now we do it with Dan's mom and she is my God, can she cook. Holy cow. She makes like a. I should remember. I think it's called like a five pepper roast. Five something roast spetzel and green beans and oh my God, so tasty. She does a fantastic job. I'm really salivating thinking about eating at her house for a couple days. Isabella, what do you do on Christmas?

[Isabella]

Usually me and my siblings sleep over like our childhood home and then we wake up and it's cute cuz my sister has her kids. So it's like we're all just there. We wake up still and have Christmas morning like how we always have since we were kids. And then we always, when we open up presents, we always have Charlie Brown Christmas album playing.

[Katie]

Yeah. Hell yeah. That's exactly the soundtrack of that. It's a perfect soundtrack for that or for like if you're doing like a cocktail party as people are arriving. That Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack is the best. All right, everybody. Well, Merry Christmas and happy holidays. When is Hanukkah this year? I believe it's like the 14th through the 26th.

[Brady]

Yeah, I think by the.

[Katie]

So it will have happened.

[Brady]

It's over.

[Katie]

So happy past Hanukkah. When's Kwanzaa? Come on, Brady, Google it. You should know off the top of your head.

[Brady]

Holiday dates. I'm supposed to know.

[Katie]

Of course.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

26Th. Oh, through to the first.

[Katie]

Oh, I definitely knew before just now that that's a multiple day thing. So Happy Kwanzaa and happy truly, whatever you celebrate. Happy holidays, happy everything. Thank you for spending some of it with us. There's no way you're actually listening to this on Christmas. You're probably listening to it maybe the day after or whatever. But if you did, special thanks to you. We love you, we mean it and we will see you. Is it we see them again before January 1st, right? So we don't have to wish them a happy new Year yet, Brady. Correct. Great. I don't know how good it is now.

[Brady]

We have not planned what that episode will be.

[Katie]

Oh, good. Oh, good. And you have no idea when we're recording this? It could be. We could be closer to the date than we are. Or it could have been months ago. How would you know? Well, I guess actually the Chris Paul stuff.

[Chris (NBA expert)]

Chris Paul?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Katie]

Sort of puts us right around when it happened. Okay, cool. We love you so much. Happy Christmas and we'll see you back here on Tuesday. We love you. We mean it. Bye. Merry Christmas.

[Dan]

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