Mike Trout, ABS Challenges, and Rocky Mountain Pizza Donuts | with Swilly

Summary

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Casuals with Katie Nolan

Episode: Mike Trout, ABS Challenges, and Rocky Mountain Pizza Donuts | with Swilly
Release Date: April 2, 2026
Podcast by SiriusXM
Guest: Sarah Wilson ("Swilly") of Jomboy Media

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, occasionally heartfelt, and always inclusive deep-dive into the world of baseball—all filtered through the welcoming, accessible style Katie Nolan is famous for. Katie’s joined by Sarah Wilson (aka “Swilly”) of Jomboy Media, focusing on the start of MLB season, ballpark food, Mike Trout’s legacy, rookie standouts, the introduction of ABS challenges, and how to cope when your team seems to be doomed early. Listeners are treated to a rich combo of banter, analysis, big-heartedness, and some deliciously weird food discussion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Clearing Up Viral Stories & Setting the Table (01:00–04:00)

• Katie opens by correcting a previous episode's viral dog rescue story, clarifying it was AI-generated and not real.
• Small talk about viral Olaf robot malfunction video at Disney.

2. Jaden Ivey Cut, Homophobia Headlines & Religion in Sports (04:00–14:00)

• Katie reviews the NBA’s Jaden Ivey story after his waiving by the Bulls for “conduct detrimental to the team.”
• Critique of media reactions focused solely on anti-gay statements instead of the broader context—namely, possible mental health issues:
  • “At this age and stage of my life, I’m really done hearing from religious people that it’s okay for them to be against gay people.” (Katie, 10:28)
  • Katie emphasizes she disagrees with homophobic statements, but also expresses empathy if this is a mental health crisis.
  • Encourages people to “click past headlines” for actual context.
• Katie’s personal take: “I didn’t come away from [Catholicism] anti-gay…My faith never taught me that.” (Katie, 11:12)
• “If your understanding of your religion is that you don’t believe in gay people? That’s not really…that’s just not how it works.” (Katie, 12:15)
• Notes the damage in people using the episode as fuel for anti-gay rhetoric.

3. Did You Really Say That Out Loud? – Weekly Weird Quotes Segment (14:00–21:00)

• Tony Vitello, new San Francisco Giants manager, quoting Kanye West at a press conference:
  • “If you try hard, you die hard. Strange fellow. But he don’t miss much on the music. Not that you asked.” (Vitello, 15:00)
  • Katie: “He’s fully committed to not thinking until the speaking has happened.” (Katie, 16:01)
• Jets Head Coach Aaron Glenn on Geno Smith:
  • “He’s the guy that’s going to lead us to the promised land. He’s the guy that’s going to touch the ball more than anybody else on offense.” (Glenn, 17:40)
• Anthony Edwards (Wolves) late for tip-off:
  • “I was taking a—” (Edwards, 19:10)
  • Katie: “You want me to drop 40? I gotta drop a couple things into the bowl first.” (Katie, 19:31)
  • “I think he absolutely should have said that out loud.” (Katie, 19:38)

4. Italy Fails to Qualify—World Cup Soccer Banter (21:00–25:00)

• Italy fails, yet again, to qualify for the World Cup despite expanded teams.
• Producer Chris (Australian) gleefully recalls 2006 “dive” by Italy eliminating Australia: “Absolute karma. 12 years in a row they haven’t made it. I love it.” (Chris, 24:07)
• “Italy’s a baseball country now.” (Katie, 24:19)

5. Professional Grade Performance (25:00–28:00)

• Katie spotlights Texas Tech star pitcher Nijaree Kennedy, recipient of the AUSL’s first "Golden Ticket" for pro softball.
• Discussion of Kennedy’s decorated career and NIL/endorsement deals.
• Fun sidebar: If Isabella had signature cleats, “I’d want the Kill Bill shoes, with a black ankle sock and a red bow—for blood.” (Isabella/Swilly, 27:23)

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[Guest Segment: Swilly from Jomboy Media Joins]

(32:30–102:41)

6. Baseball as Springtime and the WBC Electric Atmosphere (32:30–38:41)

• Katie and Swilly bond over baseball marking the end of winter.
• Swilly shares her first NYC winter experience: “If I ever have to do that again, I’ll be very mad.” (Swilly, 33:05)
• Both rave about atmosphere at the WBC (World Baseball Classic) and fans from Mexico/Miami.
  • “Team USA fans are like: ‘PCA better take a better at bat!’…It’s a different type of passion.” (Swilly, 36:22)
• Jomboy Media divided coverage by assigning teams; Swilly was all-in on Team Mexico.

7. Team Italy in Baseball – Global Game Growth (38:08–39:27)

• Debate over Italy’s role in WBC and the growth of the game: “I’m very curious to see how baseball goes in Italy in the next few years.” (Swilly, 38:30)
• “Vinny Pasquantino is like, famous in Italy.” (Katie, 38:57)

8. Mike Trout’s Legacy, Loyalty, and Social Media Scrutiny (40:00–43:26)

• Both Katie and Swilly are deeply invested in Mike Trout’s career resurgence:
  • “Every year, I’m like, this is going to be the year Mike Trout shuts up all the 12-year-old kids online.” (Swilly, 40:46)
  • “If he is healthy and on a baseball field, he’s still one of the best players.” (Swilly, 41:58)
• Discussion of double standards for loyalty vs. chasing rings; the social media microscope on Trout.

9. Shohei Ohtani’s “Betrayal” and Loyalty in Sports Fandom (43:26–46:45)

• Swilly admits to shedding tears when Ohtani left for the Dodgers:
  • “When it’s the crosstown rival, it’s kind of the worst thing to ever happen to me personally.” (Swilly, 44:05)
• Both lament “fan switching” in SoCal post-Ohtani.

10. The Angels, Artie Moreno, & The Myth of “Fans Don’t Care About Winning” (46:45–49:17)

• Swilly skewers Angels’ owner Artie Moreno for prioritizing concessions/giveaways over fielding a winner:
  • “He is a bad person. He doesn’t care about anything except making money.” (Swilly, 46:42)
  • Moreno’s “fans don’t list winning as a top priority” survey is mocked.

11. MLB’s Rookie Explosion & Standouts (49:17–51:38)

• Swilly discusses buzzworthy new rookies:
  • Chase DeLauter (Guardians): “Hit four home runs in his first three games. That’s only happened one other time.” (Swilly, 50:08)
  • Kevin McGonigle (Tigers): Four-hit debut.

12. Players Lying About Height—“Short King Summer” (51:38–52:33)

• “More than half of the league lost an inch—and some guys became three inches shorter.” (Katie, 52:08)

13. ABS Strike Zone Challenge System: Strategy, Surprises, and Umpires (52:33–62:31)

• Both relish the drama of real-time ABS challenges, describing chaotic early-szn games (esp. CB Bucknor’s infamous sequence: 55:03–55:25).
  • “Everything old feels new again…There’s all these little scenarios you wouldn’t have considered.” (Katie, 54:29)
• On umpires: “It must be weird, getting live-checked in front of a crowd and knowing people already hate you.” (Katie, 60:22)
• Katie and Swilly both feel a bit bad for exposed umps, while also recognizing greater accountability.
• Speculation on tactics: Which teammates “call” challenges? Could a catcher “bait” a hitter into wasting one?

14. Why Baseball? The Heart of Fandom (64:08–68:35)

• Swilly is a first-generation baseball fanatic—softball led her deeper into MLB.
• “You fail 70% of the time in baseball and you’re good. I love chasing getting better in something with no end in sight.” (Swilly, 66:36)

15. Ballpark Food Review Extravaganza (73:14–86:17)

• Swilly recounts tasting the new Yankees Mini Dessert Chicken Bucket: “It was nuts. But it was just so sweet…a lot going on.” (Swilly, 74:19)
• Katie: “If you’re gonna do a bucket, it should have multiple [pieces]. Otherwise, don’t make it a bucket.” (Katie, 74:47)
• Discussion/rating of new ballpark foods:
  • Red Sox: Lobster Poutine – “This looks incredible.” (Swilly, 78:01)
  • Phillies: SchwarBomb Sundae – “I look at this and think I’m already having heart palpitations.” (Swilly, 79:25)
  • Diamondbacks: 8-lb Bases Loaded Nachos – “No way the bottom nachos have anything on them.” (Katie, 80:45)
  • Rockies: Pizza Donuts – “I’m all in on this.” (Swilly, 82:01)
• Side banter: “Dude Wipes replied…Those donuts won’t be the only holes that need wiping.” (Katie, 83:00)

16. Mets “Egg Roll of the Series”—Inventive Ballpark Eats (84:05–85:24)

• Every Mets home series features an egg roll inspired by the visiting team’s city—“Incredible. I love this.” (Swilly, 84:48)

17. 999 Challenge & Ballpark Promotional Gimmick Gripes (86:18–91:41)

• Critique of Aramark’s “999 Challenge” (9 beers, 9 dogs, 9 innings for $60) as a watered-down, expensive facsimile of the original fan challenge.
• Commemorative Ohtani cup at Dodgers costs $90+.

18. Voicemail: When Should You Freak Out About Your Team? (Audrey from MA) (91:41–97:44)

• “When is it appropriate to start worrying?” (Audrey, 92:37)
• Swilly: “Maybe 6–8 weeks in is when you start to look at the standings and trade targets…But sometimes these guys are just slow starters.” (Swilly, 95:56)
• Katie’s advice: Tune into other teams if watching your own is “too painful early on”; don’t beat yourself up for not watching every pitch.

19. How to Diversify Your Fandom (97:44–101:44)

• “It’s okay to have a National League team if your team is bad, as long as it’s a ‘light affiliation’.” (Katie, 99:36)
• Swilly’s “side teams” include the early-2010s Giants: “That team was full of characters, and I loved it.” (Swilly, 101:23)

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Notable Quotes

• “He’s fully committed to not thinking until the speaking has happened.”
  — Katie on Giants manager Tony Vitello’s approach to press conferences. (16:01)
• “Every year, I’m like, this is going to be the year Mike Trout shuts up all the 12-year-old kids online.”
  — Swilly, grieving as a loyal Angels/Trout fan. (40:46)
• “The only time I properly fielded my position, somebody bunted. I sprinted and dove. Flipped over myself. Made the catch… Pitchers are athletes too, guys!”
  — Katie, on her own athletic glory. (70:52)
• “More than half of the league lost an inch—and some guys became three inches shorter. That’s not a little lie. That’s…well, it’s a little lie because it came from you, tiny man.”
  — Katie on baseball players’ height discrepancies. (52:08)
• “It’s literally who I am as a baseball fan. I could talk about our baseball teams for so long.”
  — Swilly (63:52)
• “When you fail 70% of the time, but you’re still really good…I love chasing getting better in something with no end in sight.”
  — Swilly on the poetry of baseball and softball. (66:36)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Correcting Viral Dog Rescue Story / Olaf Video – 01:00–02:30
• Jaden Ivey Mental Health & Religious Defense – 04:00–14:00
• Did You Really Say That Out Loud? (Quotes segment) – 14:00–21:00
• Italy Misses World Cup & Baseball’s Rise – 21:00–25:00
• Professional Grade Performance: Nijaree Kennedy – 25:03–28:00
• Guest Segment Begins: Baseball as Ritual, WBC – 32:33–38:41
• Italy’s WBC Role & Growth – 38:08–39:27
• Mike Trout's Legacy – 40:00–43:26
• Shohei Ohtani/Judging Fan Loyalty – 43:26–46:45
• Artie Moreno Critique – 46:45–49:17
• MLB Rookies to Watch – 49:17–51:38
• ABS Challenges & Ump Dramaturgy – 52:33–62:31
• Swilly’s Baseball Origin Story – 64:08–68:35
• Ballpark Food Reviews: Yankees Dessert Chicken Bucket, others – 73:14–86:17
• Mets: “Egg Roll of the Series” – 84:05–85:24
• 999 Challenge Gimmick, Ohtani Cup – 86:18–91:41
• Voicemail: When to Panic as a Fan – 91:41–97:44
• Diversifying Fandom/Side Teams – 97:44–101:44

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Tone & Language

The episode is warm, irreverent, honest, and welcoming to both “diehard” and “casual” fans alike. There’s a consistent emphasis on curiosity, empathy (for both struggling athletes and maligned umpires), and a deep, forgiving love for baseball—warts, weird food, and all.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode perfectly captures why baseball remains a balm, a puzzle, and a community—where even, or perhaps especially, the heartbreaks of fandom, the absurdities of the modern game, and the question of which pizza donut will destroy your insides next are best experienced together, in good company.

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(End of summary)

Transcript

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[Katie Nolan]

Hey Isabella, did you see that the. The dog story ended up being AI? No. Yeah, it wasn't real. I just saw that today and it really messed me up. Honestly, I kind of feel good that I didn't know about that story, but you guys did and you were all like, you don't know about that story. Okay, why are we bringing that up on us?

[Chris]

Yeah, sorry.

[Katie Nolan]

I wanted to believe that the dogs followed that one dog free from a meat truck when actually I think the real story was that like that was a. They didn't come out of a truck. They didn't escape anything. That. That German shepherd I think might have been in heat. And the other dogs were all just like following it for science reasons. I don't. Damn. I did question that perhaps this story could have only come from one of the dogs. Like, who are we hearing this story from where they're coming from? Yeah, well, and now. And we put. Now we are part of the problem. We put out misinformation. So I just wanted to clear that up top here. I apologize. That was fake. But the Olaf video I showed you, Isabella, that was real. Oh, thank God. Because I loved that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I loved that.

[Katie Nolan]

It was so funny and sad at the same time. Hearing the kids go, no, no, look it up. Olaf at Disney. They've got a little robot that like looks really real. He's a snowman from Frozen, but he has a. A malfunction. And he's talking and he stops, he falls backwards and his carrot nose pops off and the staff has to come out and like pick him up and they, like, take him out, like, basically on a stretcher, but he's okay. I saw another video of him walking around. Somebody tweeted like, you can tell he has no memory of what happened. And that's real. This episode is presented by gmc. We are professional grade. Hello. Hi. Welcome to Casuals. What? The sports podcast. The sports podcast that grosses Isabella out. The sports podcast doesn't care what you know. We think everybody can love sports, and we're here to talk about them in a way that everybody loves. Ooh, a fun show today. I'm Katie Nolan, your host. We got a great guest. Swilly from John Boy is here. So we're talking about baseball. We're going to dive into everything baseball related, but before that, we're going to spend a little time with the casualties going over some stuff. The casualties are the production crew, and here at Sirius xm, they help make this thing. We have Isabella, our sports newbie. Hi. Wow. Ew back. Now that it was in your court, our master editor, Chris.

[Chris]

What's up?

[Katie Nolan]

And B. Brady. Hey. Whose video is on a little bit of a delay. It's just something we're all going to have to get used to until he finally moves here, which everybody's doing. Right? It's in the plans. Everybody's going to move to New York. I must have been on a different email, if you want to. Speaking of email, if you want to reach out to us, casuals with katienolan gmail.com our voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and tick tock, we are at Casuals, the podcast. Like I said, Swilly. Coming up in a little bit, we're going to talk to her about Mike Trout. We talk about ballpark food because there's some fun new ones across Major League Baseball this year. And also we take a voicemail about when to start worrying about your baseball team because some of us, Red Sox fans included are starting early this year because they look bad and are bad. So we talk about all of that. But before that, we do a little bit of a yap here at the top of the show. And I believe. Did we discuss Jaden Ivy already on this show at all? No, I've only done it on the radio. So the Jaden Ivy story, it's. It's kind of old by now. You may have seen it. He was waived by the Chicago Bulls, the team that he was traded to this year. At the deadline from the Pistons. He's hurt. They declared that he was going to be out for the year. And then yesterday or two days ago, depending on earlier this week, they waived him. He was a former fifth overall pick in the 2022 draft by the Pistons. So, you know, just background about him as a player. They said when they dropped him that it was due to conduct detrimental to the team. I saw a lot of people writing up the headline that it was because of homophob that he expressed during a couple of social media rants. And I just wanted to say, obviously the story has been being talked about a lot and obviously at this podcast, we are not for homophobia or any anti gay statements. I do just want to say I feel like I thought we were doing a good job with mental health awareness and I feel like maybe we need to be doing a better job because the way I'm seeing a lot of people reacting to this and discussing this story makes me feel like maybe not everybody watched the video. They must not have actually watched the videos that Jaden Ivy posted in which he is talking about a number of things. Religion and God and his beliefs and of course, the thing that made the headline. But also I believe there was anti Catholic sentiment expressed in the video. My point is, if you watch the videos, these are long lives on his Instagram, it's kind of clear that that's the headline isn't really the, the thing that's being made the headline. And the, the danger there for me is that it's difficult to, to talk about. You know, I'm, I'm not a doctor. I just recognize certain patterns from being on earth for a long time and, you know, dealing with mental illness in various ways throughout the course of my life. It's just not. These aren't like he's not taking to some video to, to make some coherent statement. These are videos that are being filmed while he's boarding a plane. While he's on a plane. There are videos of it while he's driving. And these are lives where he's just sort of talking uninterrupted for long, long stretches of time. And while I'm not saying we shouldn't call attention to the hate that is being spread in some of this, I just, it's weird seeing a lot of people reacting to the pull quote and defending that based off of religion for a number of reasons. Number one, at this age and stage of my life, I'm, I'm really done hearing from religious people that it's okay for them to be against gay people. I, I, look, I don't want to insult Anybody who has a strong set of beliefs or a religion that they believe and practice. And I, I think freedom of religion for all. It's just that it keeps being tied together as like, well, you can't say anything to me because it's, it's my, these are my beliefs and like I don't think it's a secret to anybody. I'm not a practicing, currently a practicing Catholic, but that's how I was raised. As a child I went to. I'm, I'm fully through confirmed with the Catholic Church. I've got my own thoughts and this isn't my place to air those out about the Catholic Church, especially in Boston and in general the religion. I've got my own spirituality. Again, not really something I'm here to talk to you about. But like it was not a. I didn't come away from that anti gay. Like I was fully indoctrinated into Catholicism. It was what I was raised with and it did not in any way plant that in me. So watching everybody point to it as like a. Well, this is their belief, it's their faith. My faith never taught me that. And I don't know, I just feel like it. Those, there's people, there's. There are people that are gay and they are telling you their lived experience. If your religion is. Your understanding of your religion is that is that you don't believe in gay people. That's not really. It's just not how it works. And I'm sorry, I just am like fed up with hearing that as like, oh, well that's. They. You can't suppress their right to a religion. No, but I don't think you get to in your religion go, well, we don't believe that those are people. So I it to me, I'm sick of hearing it as an excuse. But more importantly, I think it's really weird the people that we saw grab on to that part of Jaden Ivy's statement and use it to say, hey, I agree with him and he should be able to say whatever he wants to Trayon Henderson, I'm kind of looking at you. There's just. Because there's just no way. You watched the video and your takeaway was that he was making some strong stance against being gay, not potentially having a, A, a bigger issue. Do you know what I'm saying? It, it is just weird to see people retweeting and, and being like, I'll fight for his. He's being lifted up as a martyr. They cut him for his beliefs and, and While I do maybe have an issue with them cutting him, if he is experiencing a mental health episode, and I don't know where team liability begins and ends in that regard, he's not being cut for his beliefs. This isn't that. And to see a number of people love the idea that he was being homophobic and to use that to say that he's the victim in all of this, for that reason, to me, is like, you got to click past the headline, dude. I don't think maybe you're engaging with this story in a way that. And then in doing so, you're telling on yourself. Trayvon Henderson, a Patriots running back who posted a Bible verse on social media that read, blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. He basically said, this guy's blessed and gonna go to heaven because he's righteous in saying that you can't be gay because God says. Which, by the way, I tried to read the Bible. I didn't get all the way back through it, but with adult eyes, have recently read the Bible, and it does not jump out the way that some of these religions or the people that teaching and preaching these religions would have you think. You know what I'm saying? Like, if this were like a top five takeaway of the Bible, it would have made it into the commandments, and it didn't. So what are we possibly. When they go like it says right here? Yeah, if you, like, read it really specifically, it also says right here, if a woman has her period, she's not allowed back in the village for a couple weeks. And that's not how we live. So I. It's just. It just feels to me. So obviously being religion is being used as a shield to push a belief system and hatred. And that's the issue. I take with all this. It's really tough to talk about religious beliefs because I know how much religion means to some people, and I know that it doesn't mean that much to me. And I don't want that to make it sound like I feel any sort of value assessment to that. You are welcome to believe in your religion, but where you're losing me is where you're using it to push hatred of literal human beings who are on earth with. With us. We all have one shot at living the life that we get to live. Now, again, certain belief systems, actually, I think, think that you get more than one shot. So I'm not trying to dismiss that, but I'm saying that my. This consciousness here. Katie Nolan I got one chance to be her. And I don't like anybody who tells people how to live their lives if they're not hurting anybody else. And the fact that people get so mad about who people love at a time when love is like nowhere to be found, I hate this is why I didn't want to talk about this because there's so many layers to it. I just feel like people might be engaging with the headline and the way that the story is being pushed and that's actually also creating more hatred towards the community that I think we should protect. I've talked to some people within the community being like, I hate that it's being reported this guy got cut for being anti gay because now it's making all of these anti gay people really, really loud and say that we are the reason that he got fired. And I that's just not what the story is. So I would just say there's a lot to be said about Jade and I' I hope that he has support around him. I hope there is a support system. There are mental health professionals. I know he has mentioned on many replies to stuff and on the live streams themselves that he people keep telling him he's having a mental issue and he's not. Again, these are things that if you're familiar with certain mental issues, this, this behavior tracks. And so I heard him say on one of these lives because I tried to watch them to do my due diligence and they are hard to watch. And in one of them, he says his wife isn't answering his text, that she's watching the Instagram live, but she won't get back to him. And then he says his family is cutting him off because of his beliefs and that he's speaking up for them. And it, it just is like I think there's more to this and I hope that he gets the help that he needs. And, and I and I disagree and disavow with the, with some of the things he said. While also I'm trying to exercise empathy for the fact that it. I don't believe that that is the there' to it. So anyway, those are my thoughts on it. Let's do Should I've said that out loud? We've got a couple. There were a lot. We had to cut this segment down, okay. Because I talk too much. There's a lot of weird quotes this week. The segment will not die because people just keep saying stuff out loud. Let's start with Tony Vitello, the manager of the San Francisco Giants. The Baseball team. The narrative coming into the season. Tony Vil is the first coach to make the jump directly from coaching in college ball to coaching in the majors. And people were like, how's this going to go? His very first press conference, he spent a little too much time talking about how people covered him making the move. And he had some issues with reporters. Red flag. But, you know, it's like a light pink flag.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Red flag.

[Katie Nolan]

But I've ignored those before. Let's say that. Red flag. But I went. I could drive past that one. Then he's had a couple other quotes this week. He said he, like, maybe got the guys too hyped up, and that's why they got swept by the Yankees. Not really sure what he meant by that. But then yesterday, I saw this quote. I saw this quote, and I said, what's up, buddy? Tony Vitello said, if you ask Kanye. If you ask Kanye, I think he's out with a new album. If you try hard, you die hard. Strange fellow. But he don't miss much on the music. Not that you asked. And what was this in relation to. He was talking about they were trying too hard. Okay, buddy. I look. And I wouldn't even say. It's not that you can't. You can quote Kanye. Some people might have an issue with it. But if you're gonna go to an old Kanye quote. Okay, I don't. It feels a little try hard to me to dig out a Kanye quote to prove that, like, trying hard isn't good for you. So kind of weird. But to go. I think he's got a new album out. Yeah. I don't know if you've been paying attention, Tony, but we're not necessarily pushing people to Kanye's socials. Do you know what I mean? We're not necessarily dropping the link to Kanye right now. And just to end it with. Not that you asked. To me, it, like, demonstrates an almost awareness of, like, why'd I bring this up?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But it's just.

[Katie Nolan]

I saw somebody say their favorite thing about him is that he's fully committed to not thinking until the speaking has happened. And it's really. Look, I know the deck is stacked again, stacked against him. I know a lot of people are like, he's gonna fail. And I'm not even. I wasn't even rooting either way. I'm actually hoping does. Well, he's on the Giants. That's Dan's team. But I just. What are we doing here? Why would you do that? Should he have said that out loud? I'M voting no.

[Chris]

Yes. Because it's funny.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. God damn. Embrace the craziness. Just like, ah, whatever. Some men just want to watch the world burn, you know?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, let's move on to Aaron Glenn and what he said about Geno Smith. So earlier this week, it's the NFL's annual meeting, which just means everybody involved in these teams is all in one place. And they keep saying stuff. It's kind of beautiful in terms of content. Aaron Glenn earlier this week said he's the head coach of the Jets. You may remember him from such hits as falling asleep at the combine. Oh, that was him. Okay. He spoke about their new old quarterback, Geno Smith. Let's hear what he had to say. Like, I just feel like. Like he's the guy that's going to lead us to the promised land. He's the guy that's going to touch the ball more than anybody else on offense. And I think a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they have their struggles. If you look at over the last five years, the guy has thrown the most interception. I mean, the top guys are up there. That's it. That is true. Top guys. Trevor Lawrence has the most. Then Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes and Jared Goff. It's a volume stat. So the guys who throw the ball a lot and who played since 2021 are the. Are gonna be up there. He's got eighth, the eighth most on that list. He's also 15th in touchdowns over that same time span. I just. To the promised land. You think Geno Smith is gonna lead you to the promised land? I'm not even saying he's like that bad. It's just that's not what jets fans want to hear, I don't think. And you should at least be a little closer to saying something that a Jets fan wants to hear. Air. I just think this guy's gonna lead us to the promised land. Then the next sentence being he's the guy that's gonna touch the ball more than anybody else on offense. Well, yeah. Well, yeah, because it starts with him. So that part's real. The rest I just don't know. And maybe I'm wrong. I'll be glad to eat my word, but I don't think Aaron Glenn should have said that out loud.

[Chris]

No, me neither.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And then our last one, unfortunately, because we have to wrap this up because we have to move on. We also have to talk about Italy. Anthony Edwards, star of the Timberwolves, was not present for tip off against their. With for Their game against the Dallas Mavericks on Monday night. Despite being listed in the starting lineup, he was supposed to start. He did eventually check into the game. One minute into the first quarter. And after the game, reporters were like, hey, what. What happened there? And here is what Ant had to say.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I was taking a. Oh, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And you know. And you know what?

[Chris]

Oh, I love ant.

[Katie Nolan]

Native sandwich, right? Like, when it comes, it comes. And what do you want me to do? What do you want me to do?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I gotta poop.

[Katie Nolan]

You want me to shoot buckets?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I gotta shoot the shit.

[Katie Nolan]

You want me to drop 40? I gotta drop a couple things into the bowl first. I gotta.

[Chris]

I gotta drop a couple of twos first.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. I gotta get it out of me. I gotta shoot these twos so I can nail these threes. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me clear it out. I think he absolutely should have said that out loud. I'm glad he didn't try to say any. Some sort of cutesy, like, oh, you know, nature called, like, because then we all have to go, did he poop or did he pee? And I don't want to do that. That, like, I'm. Thank you for telling me what it actually was. And also, he was back on the court within a minute, so, like, he almost timed it. Right. Yeah, that's actually. That's pretty impressive because the walk from the bathroom looks pretty long, right? It could be a long. It's at least one long hallway. Exactly. So, you know, I'm actually. I applaud him for this. This kind of reminded me of. At the owner's meetings, who was the coach that. That missed the photo or almost missed the photo because he was getting a haircut in preparation for the photo. It was. Was it Monkin? Yeah, yeah. Todd Monk.

[Chris]

Yes, it was.

[Katie Nolan]

Missed the head coach photo because he was getting a haircut in preparation for the. I'd much rather you be like Ant and miss the first minute of a game because you had to poop. You.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You.

[Katie Nolan]

You scheduled a haircut for a thing, and it got in the way of the thing. A thing you might never be in again, if we're being honest. You know what I'm saying? This might have been your only shot to be in that pic. Crazy. So anyway, that was technically. Did I say that out loud? Now, before we get to Swilly, you guys, did you see Italy?

[Chris]

Oh, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

I almost want to let Chris take this story as an Australian fan, and I know Australia's got beef with Italy that goes way back, but for the third consecutive World Cup, Italy, the Italian national team did not qualify. They lost their playoff on penalties to 65th ranked Bosnia and Herzegovina. Capital, by the way. Sarajevo. Sarajevo. Didn't they have an Olympics once? I think they might have. So, yeah. So they didn't look. And here's what I think. And now, you know, I'm Italian, you know, I've got that blood in 1984

[Chris]

Winter Olympics, by the way.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. The Italian team was caught on camera when they found out that Bosnia beat Wales. They got excited. They, like celebrated because they were like, oh, we got the easy team. And then they lost and now they have not qualified. Now another reason that this is crazy. You may not know this, dear listener, if you are truly a casual. They've expanded the field this year for the World Cup. So it was previously 32 teams and this year they opened it up to 48 teams. And still Italy, unable to qualify for the third World cup in a row, they've won it before. They are the first former winners to miss out on three consecutive World Cups. A horrendous look. Chris, I'd like to give you the floor to do any gloating, maybe explain to casual listeners what Australia's beef is with Italy.

[Chris]

Now, I don't know how many other Australians have continued holding this beef, but I will hold this for the rest of my life. 2006 World cup was the first World cup that I ever really got into heavily. Right. Australia had made the World cup for the first time, I think since the 80s in 2006. So it was a big deal and we actually made it out of the group stage. We're playing some really good football. Wow. I'm calling it football. That's how excited I am about this story, right? Or how, you know. Anyway, so 2006, we ended up facing Italy in, you know, whatever the round is after the group stage, the first round of the knockout stages. We were facing off against Italy and it was nil. All in the 96th minute.

[Katie Nolan]

00.

[Chris]

Nobody has 00 in the 96th minute. The ball goes into the penalty box and Lucas Neal, the, the captain for Australia, went to slide. Francisco. And who was it? Fabio Grosso. I thought it was Totty because Totty ended up actually taking the penalty and, you know, scoring the goal. But I just looked it up and it was Fabio Grosso who sort of went down like he'd been shot. Hugh, like absolute dive. Lucas Neal didn't even touch him, but he went down. Toti got the penalty scored. Australia are out. Italy. What Goes on to win the World cup. And I still remember that. And I still hate the Italian soccer team ever since then. So this is just absolute karma. 12 years in a row, they haven't made it. It's. It's fantastic. I love it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of them not making it. I think that sucks. I would have liked them to make it, but they didn't. And I think it's just time for us all to face it that Italy's a baseball country now.

[Chris]

Absolutely.

[Katie Nolan]

Italy.

[Chris]

Vinnie is the face of sports in Italy.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, he's all they have to be proud of.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The face of Italy. That's right. Crazy. That's right. I really. I was thinking about this the other day. Don't ask me why. I just randomly think about other people's lives. I was hoping that Vinnie's, like, planned a trip over to Italy. I hope he's, like, on the phone being like, I need to go over there and, like, soak some of this. I actually have a vision board for you. Yeah. I'll plan you your. Your Italy trip just so you can go over there and, like, I don't know, Soak it up. Yeah, Like a lady finger in rum. Soak it up. Tiramisu. Okay, guess what, you guys? It's time for that segment that we love so much. Time for a new segment. Chris.

[Chris]

Hey.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

to look like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. And then I saw that some cleats have kind of like an ankle sock on it. So I feel like make that black too. And then.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, like they like.

[Katie Nolan]

Like a Balenciaga.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. And then so that would be black. And then I think I would put like a red bow on it. Maybe make the laces red. Okay. Like for blood. I mean, we didn't have to. I was more so thinking of color blocking, but. Right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

That made me think we could call it the is a killer. Okay. I. Did you already put thought into this. This does not feel like something you're coming up with.

[Chris]

I totally came up with 2070s in the making.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

I was like, swilly's coming. I can be fully myself. I can wear what I want to wear, which is an oversized polo shirt and oversized jeans.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's very cute.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. The weather is warm. My body is not ready. So this is what it's. This is what we're going with. You know what I mean?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I do understand. Yeah. And the stark difference between having my winter coat on a few days ago to right now.

[Katie Nolan]

Unreal. Is too much unreal. How often we've had to pull it back out of the closet this year. And I'm hoping we're done.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I hope so because this was my first New York City winter.

[Katie Nolan]

That's insane.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And so, yeah, if I ever have to do something like that ever again, I'm gonna be very mad.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Wait, let me introduce you so we can into this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay, okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Technically, her name is Sarah Wilson, but you probably know her as Swilly. You can see her across John Boy Media programming like you do. The trivia jam, baseball trivia, the warehouse games. If it's on John Boy, you've touched it. I'm assuming that's the. That's how I function at Willy Sports on IG and TikTok. We love her. You know where you love her? Swilly is here. You moved here this year. I forgot that. From SoCal. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. So I. My first day at John Boy Media was on Cinco de Mayo last year. So we're coming up on a year, which is nuts. I can't believe it's already been a year, but, yeah, born and raised in Southern California, like Anaheim area. Nice. And then, yeah, got the job offer, which was a whole different story in and of itself. And then five weeks later, I found myself here.

[Katie Nolan]

Living the dream, actually.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Living the dream.

[Katie Nolan]

Absolutely. Except for the winter. So winter was tough for you this year?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Well, winter was. Was objectively tough for everybody. So I've heard.

[Katie Nolan]

Not a good one.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I had. I've had multiple people at work be like, swill, you got a rough one for your first one. And I was like, yeah, ok, well, that maybe makes me feel a little bit better. Maybe the next one won't be as bad. But, you know, knowing my luck, it's.

[Katie Nolan]

If you got an easy winter and then you got a hard one, you would be. It would. It would send you back. You would leave. That's right. So starting with the hard one, next winter, when it doesn't snow for the next four winters, you're gonna be like, this rules. I could do this all the time.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, this was. This was easy. And that actually happened to me when I played college ball for the first time. I played college ball in Iowa for a few years. Damn, girl. I know. And the first winter there, all my teammates were like, babe, this is the worst winter we've seen. I'm like, what is happening? It's a me thing, I guess.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. Summer is coming and it's because you're

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

in town, I guess.

[Katie Nolan]

So that's what's going on.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's crazy work.

[Katie Nolan]

Isn't it nice, though, when it's freezing cold for the winter and then what breaks us through is baseball season?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Isn't it actually so perfect when the weather starts to warm up and you go, I could be outside eating a hot dog. And then just in time, there's baseball for us.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's exactly right. And maybe I took that for Grant. I know I took it for granted when I was back home because, yeah, it's actually like a thing. The weather gets warmer and then it's like, oh, shit, like baseball season. Season is here.

[Katie Nolan]

Exactly.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And it's just kind of warm all the time back home. So I didn't really experience that before.

[Katie Nolan]

But this season we got a little pre warm baseball in that we had the WBC a little earlier than the season usually starts. So you got to do some baseball stuff. You went. I saw I was following Swilly Deportes from afar. How much fun did you have at the wbc?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I mean, so, so much fun. I mean, so. So as a collective, I think baseball fans in general that are just like baseball nerds that just love baseball cannot get enough baseball. We've been waiting for the WBC for a while and then I feel like it just blew away all of our expectations. It was so much fun. There were things that had never been done before happening left and right. And this, I mean, the final was incredible. It was. It was so much fun. And the fact that I got to go to Houston and watch pool play, that was. Was. That was insane. Oh, my gosh. I don't even know where to start.

[Katie Nolan]

The crowds were so fun. It seemed like on the broadcast.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. So the crowds in Miami were awesome. The crowds in Miami were awesome. You have the Dominican Republic out there. You have Venezuela out there. There's just a bunch of baseball fans that just go crazy. And it was so fun to watch from afar, from through, like my other co workers that were in Miami. But I will say the. The USA crowd, they're passionate. We're very passionate about our baseball, but in a different way where like fans of Team Mexico are cheering every second. They got the noisemakers, they're doing all the things. And then like Team USA fans are like, PCA better take a better at bat than that. And it's like the bottom of the second inning. I'm like, bro, we have to like. It's a different type of passion.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You know what I mean?

[Katie Nolan]

And it's not a as fun of a type of passion.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's a different type of fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe we could. Can we blame it on Houston? Can we blame it on that it being there? Because I like doing that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay, sure.

[Katie Nolan]

Great.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We can do that. That Works.

[Katie Nolan]

That was so easy. I thought I was gonna have to make an argument. Shouldn't even make me argue it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No, no, no. Absolutely not. But, yeah, Team Mexico was awesome. And Solita Portes, which. I love that you brought that up. That was my favorite bit of all time.

[Katie Nolan]

It was so fun.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It was awesome. Everybody at John Boy Media got assigned a team to root for, so that was. We could cover every team.

[Katie Nolan]

Smart.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Which was great. Yeah, I loved that. And so I got assigned Team Mexico,

[Katie Nolan]

and they had a great. A stacked team.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm so sad that they didn't make it to bracket. I was so, so sad.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But the crowd was awesome. People loved it online. The Solita Porte. So I was like, what are some cheers I can do? Like, put. Fill me in. Put me in the loop. So that was great. And then the fans are awesome. They embraced me like no other. And yeah, it was. It was awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

What a blast.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, it was a blast.

[Katie Nolan]

How about Italy? Yeah. Are you extra mad? Are you, like, mad at them for not have. Allowing Mexico through?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm not. Obviously, I would have liked to have seen team Mexico go far, but I have a couple. Well, the office, first of all, I mean, love Team Italy.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So I loved that for everybody. And, you know, I think that it's always. I mean, that's like, what the WBC is about.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right. It's. It's meant to grow the game of baseball, and that's exactly what team Italy did. I'm very curious to see how baseball goes in Italy in the next few years. So I thought it was awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

The fact that they were showing a baseball game, like, across the country, within Italy is crazy. Like, it's never would have thought that. That. And that's how it happens. You know, people. A lot of people are like, they aren't from Italy. A lot of them are. They're just Team USA light. And I was like, yeah, but this is the point.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's literally the whole point now.

[Katie Nolan]

Vinny Pasquintino is, like, famous in Italy. A young kid that's like, what's. What's this game? I'm Italian.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I can.

[Katie Nolan]

What's in this game with a ball? And it's. You know, they go out there, they play it, and they. You know, because of Vinnie Pasquintino, like, it's a cool. You know, plus, they didn't. I don't know if you saw. But they didn't qualify for the World cup. And so maybe Italy's a baseball country now.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Italy is definitely a baseball country. Italy's a baseball country, without a doubt.

[Katie Nolan]

I love it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I love it too. That's exact. That's such a good point though, what you said about Vinnie. Because that's kind of what I think is the best way to grow any sport.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You put an athlete on tv. You give an athlete an opportunity to show off their personality, to show off what they're all about, what they like, what they dislike. And then you have a kid that's like, oh my gosh, I, I love this player now because they like Pokemon or they, I like the way they dress or, oh, they're from my hometown. It like gives them an opportunity and then that's how you grow the game. Because these kids want to be these players when they grow up.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So I love that you mentioned that. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

It feels like we lose sight of it sometimes. I feel like it was. WBC was really good for this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, I agree.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I, I'm like not wanting to bring up the team that you actually root for because it's like a tough. It's not one of our better teams, I think at the moment, not one of our better storylines. But you do have Mike Trout and if you're of a certain age, Mike Trout means a lot to you. And I am of that age.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

You get it. And so I am rooting for like a Mike Trout assance. I'm wanting him to. Every year I beat this drum where I'm like, this year Mike Trout's gonna go off. He's gonna be back and he's going off and him, our king. Do you feel like twice as invested in that storyline or do you come at it from a different angle, being an Angels fan?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, man, there's so many feelings that I have when it comes to Mike Trout because I'm exactly that. That's literally like you and I are the same every year. I'm like, you know, this is going to be the year that Mike Trout stays healthy. This is going to be the year that he shuts up all of the 12 year old kids. I'm sorry if you're 12 and you're watching.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm not. I'm not. Sorry. You're 12. That are online.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. Literally go to bed that, that are online saying Mike Trout is overrated. I'm like, bro, you don't even have half of a cl. You don't even have half of a clue. And I've had this conversation recently with a couple of different people, which I find ironic because he's had a great start to the year.

[Katie Nolan]

As.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

As we're recording this. Yeah, he's hit a few home runs, made some diving plays. He's stolen a fe. I'm like, that's my boy.

[Katie Nolan]

That's it. That's my boy. My boy. We love you.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And it's something even as simple as watching him take out bats. Like, I've had a few people that are, like, actively watching all of his at bats now. Be like, swilly, this, like, Mike shouted, takes such beautiful at bats. I'm like, if you want to make money, you bet on him taking it to a full count. He did. He just. He sees so many pitches, and then he just always picks, like, just everything that he does when he plays baseball, he's just so good at it.

[Katie Nolan]

It.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So when people write him off, I'm like, no, you don't get it. If he is healthy and he is on a baseball field, he is one of the best players in baseball still, and we're seeing that right now. So I am so invested in that man. You have no idea.

[Katie Nolan]

No, I do. I mean, it's. I do know. Well, you do. You do know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You do know. You do know. But I've seen so many Mike Trout at bats. I've seen him play, you know, at the big A so many times. And anytime somebody brings him up in a bad light in any way, I want to throw hands.

[Katie Nolan]

I do throw hands. I physically fight people. There's nothing bad you can say about Mike Trout.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

He's been, okay, if you need back, let me know.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he's been stuck in a situation that maybe isn't the best, but remained loyal. Yes. There's people that. That. That claim that that matters, and then now they use it against him that,

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

like, too long, and you're like, exactly right.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't. It's just.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I don't know if anybody else, like, if you look at any other player in Major League Baseball or in. Across many sports, to be honest, that have stayed with one team, I just feel like they don't get as much flack as Mike Trout does. And I think part of it is social media, because if you turn back the clock and you look like. Like Ken Griffey or something, it's like, oh, the. Like, we look back and he.

[Katie Nolan]

He didn't do any.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Like, he. He was a great player, but, like, the Mariners wasted his talent. And it's like you. Like, there's so many players like that, and it's just. I think with social media and all the things like that, it's like he just Gets put under such a microscope and it's like, but he's being loyal. Isn't that what you want?

[Katie Nolan]

Right. Isn't that what you claim that you want?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right, Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

So take us back for just a sec and walk me through how you felt when Shohei Ohtani. It's announced he's gonna go to the Dodgers. Not a team that's very far away from your team in the standings. Kind of. Right. But not as much in, like, physical distance.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Was that like, top five worst days for you as a sports fan?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That was a tough day. I am ashamed to admit. I might have shed a tear or two.

[Katie Nolan]

It's ashamed to admit it's a little.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I mean, it's sports like it. When that's my life and everything. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's. It's just baseball. But, yeah, that was. That was a tough one. I, of course, wanted him to stay, but I was not gonna hold it against him if he left. Right. By any stretch. I totally understand. But, yeah, when it's the crosstown rival, it's kind of the worst thing to ever happen to me personally. And I never want that to happen again. And I am not happy about it still to this day.

[Katie Nolan]

What is it like being in Southern California from Southern California and not being a Dodgers fan? I feel like. Have you seen fans, like, hopping in that dirt? Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Absolutely. Yeah. I've seen multiple people on social media that used to tweet about the Angels and that now tweet about the dot, which is so interesting to me.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I don't. I'll never understand it. Yeah. My team is not very great.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But I would never, ever think about being a fan.

[Katie Nolan]

It's such a part of your identity. Right. I see myself through the lens of the God damn Red Sox. Like, I don't. I don't want this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But it is.

[Katie Nolan]

And it just is. That's the way that it is.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Literally.

[Katie Nolan]

And so the. The hopping.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I.

[Katie Nolan]

And look, the. I've said this before. The gravitational pull of a team like the Yankees clearly is very strong as it attracts all the best players.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. All of them.

[Katie Nolan]

But it. And like. And it's cool. It's a cool culture around the Dodgers. And I imagine it's fun to have a team that pays all that money and wins all those games. Yes. At the same time, you're just like, you can't abandon the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. You can't just go to another team. You've got to stick through for the shitty times. Because then that's what makes the non. Shitty times, which I assume are coming for you. Even though wasn't it earlier this year, didn't the Angels. Didn't Artie Moreno come out and say they took a poll and fans actually don't like winning?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I cannot spend more than a few minutes talking about Artie Moreno because I will spend the entire time time talking about him. He is a bad person. I don't like he's a bad person. He doesn't care about anything except making money. And I think there's a reason why. There have been reports that his family doesn't want anything to do with the team whenever he's like, not a part of it anymore. So I just, like there's there. Like it's all right there and it's just. Yeah. And. And he.

[Katie Nolan]

To blame it on moms to try to put it up. Moms don't care about women.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

What do you. What do you mean?

[Katie Nolan]

What do you mean?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

What do you mean by that?

[Katie Nolan]

Fans are saying, like, okay, I've accepted they're not going to win when I come to the game, so it's not in my top five because clearly a fan can't affect that and they don't expect the team to do anything about it. So they go, let's not even talk about winning. I'd like the parking to be affordable, the food to be affordable. They moved on to the other things. That doesn't mean that you as the owner get to go, look, they didn't even list winning. So let's not even try to do it right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I, I don't understand. And I put out a PSA on all my socials, but, you know, I don't have the biggest socials in the world. I don't have the smallest ones in the world. I said, if anyone has received this survey, let me know. I will pay you. I will send you John Boy media merch. And I got nothing because they did

[Katie Nolan]

reference a survey, but then didn't show the survey, didn't release the survey. They said it was something they had conducted and that the findings were that moms and people at the ballpark didn't actually care about winning. You'd be surprised to know that fans don't actually care if you play good baseball. They're just here for cheap curly fries.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Which is funny because then I imagine they didn't drop the prices of the food. So what was the point of the survey?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right. Well, yeah, one of the things that Arty Moreno has always Pride himself on is how cheap his concessions are. And I remember when he bought the Angels years ago, one of his first things that he did was he lowered concession prices and everyone was like, oh,

[Katie Nolan]

this guy's the best.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Beer is cheaper and all the things. So maybe, maybe it is just the cheap concessions that he cares about and he just wants people to buy things. But what I don't understand is that when the team is good, people will come. That's what I don't understand about it. Like, and that is more sustained success than being like, oh, this is our giveaway that we're doing. And it's like Star wars night. So, like, bring the family. Like, if it's a good team, people are going to want to come all the time. And then, and then you could jack the prices up and then people are still going to pay for it. Like, I just, I don't get it.

[Katie Nolan]

Imagine if a Star wars giveaway was the ancillary thing to a winning baseball game. And that kind of, you got to go to a baseball game and pick up a working lightsaber. Cool. But to go and go like, well, you guys don't care about the game because you're just here for the lightsaber. It's like, no, let it be, let it be. Your job is to do both. Both put a baseball team on the effing feel.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right? Right. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, let's talk about the actual baseball. Cuz we're like a week into the season, basically, you put out a video, I believe this week about this maybe being one of the best rookie classes that we've ever seen.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Talk us through this take and, and some of the, the guys that you've got eyes on that you like.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, that video that I put out was highlighting the opening series that was this past weekend and how some of these rookies are just hitting the ball so damn hard. And that is part of what makes baseball very fun. So I love seeing guys that people might not know about, especially coming from a team that kind of experiences that herself. Like, I'll sit here and say, Zach Netto is a top 10 shortstop in baseball all day long, but half the people don't even know who he is. Um, so I love when there's new names on the scene that people don't know about, and they're like, hey, I'm here to play too. Like, I can hit the ball hard too, even though I'm not on the Yankees or the Dodgers. So the first one that I think of Is. Is Chase dilauer. He's a Cleveland guardian. He hit four home runs in the opening series in his first three games.

[Katie Nolan]

Crazy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Which had only happened one other time. And it was Trevor Story.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh yeah. From the Red Sox.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's right. Yes, from the Red Sox. We, we love Trevor Story. He's. He's awesome. Happy that he's been healthy.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

As a recent. So he's very fun to watch. So.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Chase. Chase. The water is awesome. Has a very interesting swing. I. A swing that I haven't really seen before. I was talking to somebody about this and it's very like Brad Hop. And I also feel like it's very like Mike Trout if his hands were a little slower and if Mike Trout was a lefty.

[Katie Nolan]

Look at you.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, look at you. Yeah. Chase. Chase the lauder is really fun.

[Katie Nolan]

How about Kevin McGonagall? I mean, a name like McGonagall.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Let's go. So good. Yes, he was. He's a Tiger. He made his debut this past weekend as well. And he had a four hit game in his very first game.

[Katie Nolan]

Awesome.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Which is nuts. That's only happened a handful of times as well. A couple doubles, a couple singles. So, you know, and on a team like the Tigers, who, I mean it's been only five or six games, but they've been struggling a little bit.

[Katie Nolan]

Bit on the side of the ball.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I think they were no hit through eight innings last night, which isn't great. So having a guy like that that can just go out there and hit the ball is awesome. And I don't think that he's also like this big, huge tall guy, which I love. I love when like not smaller because he's probably like 5 11, which is like not small but like when a guy like when there's like a guy that's smaller in stature can go out there and hit the ball hard. I think that that's so sick. But yeah, Kevin McGonagall is good.

[Katie Nolan]

Speaking of smaller, how about the fact that we found out that like everybody was lying about their height this season? Everybody lost inches.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's so unserious.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, guys, hello. Short kings. Shoulders back. Yes. You do not have to add inches to how tall you are.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You don't. You let your play and your personality speak for itself.

[Katie Nolan]

It's just wild. It was like more than half of

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

the league lost inch and some of. Some of these guys became three inches shorter. I'm like, what are we talking about?

[Katie Nolan]

I just do feel like there should be some sort of a Penalty for that. Just some sort of a, like. Excuse me, three inch. I don't know, maybe it's like you start with a strike already against you and you're at bat because like three inches, babe. Three inches. That's like not a little lie. That's like a. Well, it's a little lie because it came from you, tiny man.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Tiny man.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you mean, three inches? How dare you. You thought we weren't gonna check?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait, check.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We checked. And apparently height isn't as important when it comes comes to cheating the system of abs.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. So, okay, so abs is here.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Abs is here.

[Katie Nolan]

This is obviously the big talking point.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. It's a big one.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the first time we're seeing it fully used and realized everybody gets two challenges. My first note is I would like the. You know, everybody comes out with their new score bug every year of what the it's going to look like. I wish they all had, like, an indication of how many challenges were remaining. Otherwise, it's up to the broadcaster to tell you how many are left.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Not all of them have it.

[Katie Nolan]

Not. And I think it's annoying. Or I haven't located it or I think. But I'm pretty sure I've watched a couple games where I'm like. But then whoever does it used to be Bally that did the Angels. Who does that now? Who owns that?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

They have it.

[Katie Nolan]

They have it on there.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. So Bally's. It was Bally's first, and then it was FanDuel last year and the year before. Maybe just last year. And now that whole deal with FanDuel and a few other teams.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Went to shit. So now we control our own broadcast. Yeah. I don't remember if opening the opening series we had the little tallies, but we do now. Yeah, we do now.

[Katie Nolan]

It is like one. Yeah. I like when you see them take a note where they go. Yeah. Oh, we should put these on there.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

They actually did something right.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Good job, guys.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Red Sox must have been given the note that the ad on the score bug isn't big enough. So definitely make it bigger. It's like half of the thing. I'm like, hello, move this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Your guys score bug is different now, right? Like, completely. I can't. I can't picture what it looks like in my brain, but I can picture the old one, of course, because the old one is iconic, this big, and

[Katie Nolan]

it's got a half of. It's an ad for probably wasabi.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know what that Company does, but Nessen's in their pocket. They're on everything, dude. Wasabi and not the spice. Cause I was like, are they sponsored by spiciness?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No, they are sponsored by just wasabi in general.

[Katie Nolan]

Some sort of tech company.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No. That's crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

But speaking of tech, abs, so I've kind of enjoyed that. Everything old feels new again. The abs has introduced all these little scenarios where you go, oh, I wouldn't have even considered that this is part of an issue. Like, for one, when the Sox and the Reds were playing the first series of the season.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Roman Anthony, who we were praising for having great awareness of the strike zone, used up the last challenge, and it was either the third or the fourth inning, and no more challenges for the season. And then that's that same game where we kind of all learned CB Buckner's name for the first time.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, my word.

[Katie Nolan]

Because that featured an at bat with Gino Suarez where twice he was called out on strikes and twice it was overturned. And then I think he either got a hit or walked, but either way, it was like just hearing the crowd.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The Cincinnati crowd react to the second time a strike was challenged and came back a ball.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And looking at the ump having to stand in that. Have you enjoyed this experience? It's a little cathartic. Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes, I would. I would say so.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I. I'm very interested to see how it plays out during the rest of the season and just forever, really. Because, I mean, it's here to stay, as far as we know. I think a few things. I think that umpires will get better.

[Katie Nolan]

Better.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, I think umpires will get better.

[Katie Nolan]

Can't get worse. Can't.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Can't get worse. Actually. Not allowed to get worse. I think the umpires will get better. Obviously, the players will get better at recognizing, like, what's a ball and what's a strike. And I'm just interested to see how the strategy plays out of who gets to do these challenges, when do they make them? Because there have been multiple times now where I've been watching an app at early in a game, and they don't use a challenge. And I think the immediate thought is, well, you don't want to be down one early in the game, which I get to an extent. But also, if you know it's a ball right, Then. Then I think that you should use it. And maybe not a guy that's in their first, second, third league in the year, maybe, like, Mike Trout is able to make that call. Right. Because, like, I Was saying earlier that man takes account to. This man takes account full every single at bat. And if he doesn't swing at a pitch, it's probably because it's a ball. So like I feel confident in him making those choices. But also you were mentioned Roman Anthony Nolan. Shawn. Well, is like our guy. When I was talking to some of the players of spring training, which I think we're going to talk about, a lot of them said that he had like the best eye. Like he was going to be the go to guy for abs. Like they, they trusted his stuff and he has been okay. So I just, I'm very interested to see like how things play out. And then like another thing that I brought up, like what if a catcher, which I don't know if this would ever happen, but what if a catcher like over. Over framed a pitch to try to bait the batter to like challenge a pitch?

[Katie Nolan]

Huh?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I don't know. But what if?

[Katie Nolan]

Right, but what if.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And then on, and then on top of that, the Rockies Jays the other day, the Rockies somehow scored 14 runs and won that game against the Jays. The Jays had a position player on the mound. And I found out if there's a position player on the mound, then there's no ABS Challenges. You can't challenge. Challenge it.

[Katie Nolan]

Wait, yeah. Why? Because he's not really a pitcher.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I don't. I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

I guess nobody can challenge it or just the pitcher, like the position player that's pitching.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, that's a good question. So I, as far as I know, the hitter. I don't know if it's an everybody.

[Katie Nolan]

That's wild.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, it's a weird thing, abs, but I'm. I'm intrigued to see how it plays out.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. And also to run into scenarios where I know people are going to lose their mind. Like somebody was talking to me the other day about like if it's like a strike them out, throw him out situation, full count, they strike the guy out, they throw down to second, they get the guy and then they appeal it and it's actually a walk that then the runner gets to go. So now they've. They didn't get the out and both of the. I know that's right. Have you seen that yet? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. But it's like something that if, that if the first time we see that is the playoffs, people are not going to handle it well. Yes. And so like there are a lot of. But I think it's kind of fun. There's all these little wrinkles that you're like, let's. Let's refind all these little spots where you go, oh, nobody saw that coming.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. So many wrinkles.

[Katie Nolan]

I do, I do worry, though, that again, CB Buckner just having not a great time like yesterday. I don't know if you saw when he. When he made the call, he was at first base. And her face indicates she did see this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I did.

[Katie Nolan]

Stevie Buckner made a call that somebody didn't. And this isn't Abs related even. This is the problem. We. We learned his name from Abs.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

But now that we know it, we're catching him all across the. The great diamond. He said that the. The runner didn't even touch the base. They go to replay, the runner touched the base, like, squarely center of the bat. He touched the base. But that's not all replay shows because you see CB Buckner in the replay not looking at the bass, and it's just like, hey, buddy, circle up. What's going on with you? Right? We gotta. And so I don't know, the, the other unintended consequence that I I is like, I'm feeling bad for the umps a little bit because, like, in the broadcast, they're like, and we have to look forward to him tomorrow night behind the plate in this series. And it's like, I know they've always kept reporting reports on umps and how well they do and their tendencies and such so that they can inform their hitters and their pitchers, but I feel like that it. They must be getting, like, advanced data now on. On umps so that they can know, like, okay, our challenge strategy with this umpire is different than our challenge strategy with this umpire, without a doubt. And at some point, you're just like, well, if I'm an ump, I'd be like, you can't do this to me anymore. You're live checking my work in front of a crowd of people who already has been conditioned to hate me. Nobody goes to the game and is like, hell, yeah, umps. I love umps. I'm just here to watch the officiating.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

There's some umps that I feel like, feel that way, though. They walk in and they're like, yep, everyone's here to see me, baby.

[Katie Nolan]

And that being said, I wish Joe west was around for this era. Bring me Angel Hernandez and put him on Abs, please, just so we can get some. So there is a part of it where I feel the crowd, like, it is not nice to have accountability happen live during a baseball game, because it feels like something we probably need as a society a little bit more of. Of going, look at what you did. You did it wrong.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Is that because we're women and we're empathetic?

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe it could be. Because it could be that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Let's explore. I think I agree. I think I agree that it is, like, I do objectively, like, feel bad because I do think that these guys go out and they try their best. Best.

[Katie Nolan]

It happens very fast. It does.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It happens so fast, and it's so hard. Like, I'm definitely not saying it's an easy job. I can go back there and do it. Absolutely not. Get me as far away from that job as possible. Right. But also, like, we. We have to hold them to a high standard. Like, we have to. And. And I don't. I don't think that, like, it's not anything personal against the umpire specifically. It's just that we want the rights. Right. Calls. And this is one of the only sports where there is a boundary that is invisible.

[Katie Nolan]

So I. It.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's not anything personal against the umpire, in my opinion. I mean, you know, you look at the CB situation and then you're like, all right, Pop. Like, we gotta.

[Katie Nolan]

We gotta do something, buddy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We gotta figure it out.

[Katie Nolan]

Come on, buddy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We gotta figure it out.

[Katie Nolan]

We need you here. Right?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But I do objectively think that they. That they try their best. And like I mentioned earlier, I do think that they're gonna get better. I don't think they have a choice. And that could be because they don't want to be embarrassed. That could be because they do care about the integrity of the game and they wanna make the right calls. But I think the umpires will eventually get better, and then maybe they won't have to feel so sad and small and tiny.

[Katie Nolan]

Really small and really tiny. Really brutal. Really brutal. Really brutal stuff in general, and not necessarily the greatest, but again, something about coming together as a group of fans and being able to go like, yeah, you were wrong, dude.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That crowd in Cincinnati was electric.

[Katie Nolan]

And for it to have been strike three both times, and both times it kept him alive, it's like, that's what you want. Yes. When that happens in a playoff game,

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

holy cow, that's giving me chills already.

[Katie Nolan]

Awesome.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's gonna be incredible. If you guys haven't watched. Not to, like, plug John Boy Media, but if you guys have not watched, watched Jimmy's breakdown of that CB Buckner sequence and that whole game, you have to go watch It. Because, I mean, you know, I actually haven't watched. Oh, you need to.

[Katie Nolan]

I have to watch it. I watch. I mean, I was watching it live. Now, listen, as a Red Sox fan, I wasn't necessarily in on the catharsis of the moment fair. When everybody else was really excited, I was effing pissed because the bases were loaded. And twice I thought we had struck out Gino. And I was like, hell, yeah, I forgot. But this, by the second time, I was like, I could see how this is going to be nice for us as baseball fans hate that is happening against my team, of course, while my team was literally out of challenges. And then the game ended on a check swing that they called it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

A. A nightmare.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You and I could talk about our baseball teams for so long, I feel like. And that just makes me so happy because this is literally who I am as a baseball fan.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the best. It's just the best. Do you. Because we're a show for casual fans and because I know there's probably people who don't love baseball as much as maybe we do.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Sure.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you have, like, a Hallmark moment, a thing that connected you, like, why baseball? That you. That, like, it was. I, you know, whether it was like a family member that really got you into it or if it was because you played as a child that in a way that really connected with you, like, why. What is it about baseball for you specifically?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

What a. What a great, great loaded question.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. Dig through your whole life right now in front of us.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, I mean, get to the bottom of it. So when I was a kid, the Angels were very good. So it was very easy for me to be a casual fan as a kid. I didn't have a ton of huge baseball fans in my family. So I would say that I'm a first generation, like, baseball fanatic. But it was. It was very easy. I had, you know, friends when I was in elementary school, middle school that, you know, their families had season tickets. Like, do you want to go? Yeah, sure, let's go. And I'd casually watch. But I didn't really fall incredibly in love until I started playing softball. And I started a little late, and it was only because my parents put my brothers in baseball. And I was like, well, my younger brothers. And I was like, well, what the fuck? I want to play.

[Katie Nolan]

So, like, what the hell?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So they put me in softball when I was 12, and that was like. Like, that's when I really fell in love with just like, bat to ball in general. And I decided that watching baseball would make me better at softball. So that was really. When I, like, honed in on Angels baseball in general. And this was like, 2009, 2010.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm, like, sitting here going like, yeah, I was 12. Not then. Fuck, I was with her. What? No, go ahead. Keep going.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Let me just go through this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm turning.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm turning 31 this year.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Yeah. Get out. Disgusting. Oh, my gosh. So this is, like.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm, like, trying to think of all of the play. I mean, this is when, like, Mike Trout was super young. This is, like, you know, this is. This is Garrett Anderson. This is Vladi. This is Tori Hunter. I love Tori Hunter. I could talk about him for years. This is Howie Kendrick. Like, I loved this team so much, and watching it to get better and then falling in love with the players, too, I was like, okay. I'm, like, actually. Actually obsessed with the sport. And also, I think in a weird, sick, twisted way, I'm such a perfectionist, and I hate losing. I'm probably the most competitive person that you'll ever meet in your whole life. And I pick the sport where you fail 70 of the time, and you're, like, really good.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So I think it's just one of those things where when I played, I wanted to chase getting better so much, and there was no end in sight, which I love. And then just kind of. Of falling in love with the sport because I played it. I just. I can't. I cannot get enough of it. And you were talking about wrinkles with abs. I mean, that's just wrinkles and abs.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Like, there's wrinkles in everything. Jimmy came up to me earlier this morning and was like, swilly. Did you have you ever thought about how, like, some guys pronate and some guys supinate when they catch balls? And, I mean, this is such a Jimmy conversation. But I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, well, you know, you look at some guys and they catch a ball like this. This. And then you look at some guys, and they catch a ball like this. So they're stupid. They're. They're pronating, and they're supinating, and they catch them in different ways. And, like, depending on how they catch a ball, they might be better at one position over another. And I'm like, oh, that's a. I've never thought of that, but that's a really good point. And that's just, like, again, one of 5,000 wrinkles that you find in baseball, like pitching is. Is its own animal that I've really started again getting.

[Katie Nolan]

Get obsessed pitch sequencing. Like, give me a full weekend and of. And an empty book and let me just go through. I'm like, I don't know what it is, but the fixating on it of trying to figure out the puzzle of it all, fascinating to me.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's fascinating. And then you have guys now that are throwing 98 mph sinkers. And I'm like, what do you mean? But then you also have a guy like Hobie Milner that's a lefty and throwing it down here and throwing it, you know, know 80 miles an hour. And he's still like a great reliever. And it's like, it's just, I could talk about this for so many hours. There's just so many layers, so many wrinkles. And it's just for me, the. There's nothing better than going to the ballpark with my friends and like, catching up while also watching a baseball game. Like, I don't have to be locked in every single second. And there's something about that that I just love. Like, I just, I love baseball so much. And, and it is, in my opinion, the best sport in the world.

[Katie Nolan]

I agree. There's action when you need it. There's all. You can pay close attention and zoom in on any position and go like, he's thinking, if the ball gets hit to me, what do I do? There's so much. And you can watch pitch sequencing. You can also zoom so far out that you just like, live your life while the game is happening. You're just having a lovely summer day outside with your friends with beer and some weird food. And then when you hear the crack of a bat, which is the most beautiful sound on earth, you look up and get to watch a little baseball happen. And then you go back to, like, why, what's going. Well, I was going to say a divorce thing, but you probably. Your friend's group isn't probably at that age yet. I think you guys held off longer than our group did, so I think so too. But it's just, there's like space for conversation and for like, connection. And then there's also space for the sport, which is the greatest sport. I just love it so much. On your softball teams, who were. Were you like the cheer starter?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. Yeah, you could see that I was the cheer starter. I was also sometimes the eye black person and the hair braiding person.

[Katie Nolan]

Hell yeah. You're such a valuable person on the bench.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Thank you. Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Also. And what position did you play?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I was corner, So I played first and third in high school, and then I was first basement in college. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Third base is the scariest in softball.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But it's so great because when a ball comes on my way, I don't have to think about it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So I. I also play third base when I play slow pitch, which is even more fun because when a man hits a ball to me and I feel that I'm like, yeah, sucks to suck.

[Katie Nolan]

Bye. Bye. It's.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's the best.

[Katie Nolan]

No, and I bet he loves it, too.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, he loves it. He loves it. I've. I've had a couple. A couple of those instances happen, but at third base, you don't have to think. And I'm such an overthinker. Like, if I had to play short or second, I'm like, okay, here comes the ball. Here comes the ball. Here come, like. And when you're playing third, you don't

[Katie Nolan]

have to think about even first if the ball. It's like, getting the ball or going to the bag. That would stress me out is when you're like, oh, no, am I gonna. Is the pitcher gonna remember to come over? If that's part of the. It's too stressful as a pitch. Former pitcher.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, okay.

[Katie Nolan]

I sucked at fielding. So as soon as. Like, my job was to over focus on the pitching, which I basically sucked at, was barely get. No. Barely getting by. And then when they would hit the ball to me, I'd go, I'm busy. I'm overthinking my next pitch.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

Don't give me this.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm literally busy. Oh, I'm trying. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The only time I properly fielded my position, somebody bunted. I remember. I'll never forget this. She bunted. It went right up in the air. I sprinted and dove.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Hell, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Flipped over myself, but made the catch. And that's the greatest play that I've ever made.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Pitchers are athletes too, guys.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Don't forget, sometimes you actually took an at bat against. Against a pitcher in the ausl, did you not Montana Fouts?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I did.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. It was. It was. How'd it go?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I struck out.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

On three pitches.

[Katie Nolan]

Listen. Okay. And it's. We couldn't have done four. We couldn't have fouled one off.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No, against Montana Fou.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. How fast is that coming in at you?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Like 75.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Montana Fouts is like it. Montana Fouts is like our Jenny Finch. Like she. She is shout out Jenny Finch. I Hope one day I get to meet her.

[Katie Nolan]

I. Oh, you have to. I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I want to. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, I would love to. Oh, my God. Are you kidding?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, she. Yeah, Jenny Finch is incredible. She did so much for the sport of softball and Montana's kind of doing the same thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I wasn't following her on social media before I met her, but obviously I knew who she was. And now I'm like, so locked in on her socials that she's like the first thing I. That I see when I open up Instagram.

[Katie Nolan]

I love that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And she is just doing all of the camps, all of the motivational, all the motivational speaking. Just, I'm watching her coach and instruct these young girls on how to pitch. And it's like, that's exactly what softball needs is like another Jenny Finch. And my. And she's just like, so badass. She's so good at softball. When she was in our warehouse and she was making content with us, she was. She was talking through every pitch that she was throwing. She was chirping the guys a little bit. It was, was. It was awesome. I love her. And if you don't want to be her when you grow up, I don't know who else.

[Katie Nolan]

You must not be paying attention.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

You're not paying attention. Yeah. Montana's awesome. And I. It was an honor to be struck out by her. On three pitch.

[Katie Nolan]

Did you swing at him?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I did.

[Katie Nolan]

Good for you.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I swung at two of them. Two of them. All of them. I don't remember. But I. I went down swinging and that's all that matters.

[Katie Nolan]

At the end of it. I repressed it. It's not, it's not for me to remember, you know what I mean?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

A little bit. But still an honor at the end of the day.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And still you had the balls to do it, which, you know, not everybody

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

can say, yes, I had the balls, but it was also. I also had to.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, right. Of course.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Mixture of both.

[Katie Nolan]

Something else you had to do. You took a little tour of the Yankee Stadium food.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes, for this season I did.

[Katie Nolan]

I watched a video of you yesterday eating the mini dessert chicken bucket. Now this is. It was a little bucket.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

With one piece of what was made to look like chicken. Like fried chicken. Yes, Like a, Like a drumstick, I believe is what it was supposed to be. And. But what it actually was was a soft serve vanilla ice cream. I think inside of it was like a chocolate covered cone piece or something.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Chocolate covered cookie bone.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure. Yeah. And then on the outside was like Was it corn flakes?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Corn flakes, yes. And the ice cream was. Was in this white chocolate mold, which is how I think they make it look. So it's the. The chocolate covered cookie bone, the soft serve ice cream, white chocolate over it, and then the corn flakes on top. It was nuts.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And you did a really good job of making it seem like you liked it, but. Yeah, but you didn't. Right. I mean, it was like. It was good. It was good. Sure.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I probably wouldn't have it.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It was just so sweet. I mean, you got chocolate, you got cookie, you got ice cream, you got white chocolate. Chocolate, which I like.

[Katie Nolan]

White chocolate, which is butter. Can we call it what it is? White chocolate's butter. It's not chocolate. So. Yeah, we don't need it there.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's. But. But I mean, how else are you gonna have it be in the shape of.

[Katie Nolan]

You just aren't really. That's how. Because it actually. It. What? What pissed me off. Yes. Let's go. And it's not just because you have thought. I love it. It's that they tried to make it handheld.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

But in the end, if you're gonna do a bucket, it should have multiple. There should be a bunch of them. Does it come in multiple? But they only gave you one.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I think it does come in multiple.

[Katie Nolan]

Then I'll get rid of that. No, I think two. Two's absurd. Two's not a bucket.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I think two. Don't pull me on that.

[Katie Nolan]

Barely a combo.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, that's true.

[Katie Nolan]

So two is crazy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

But if you're gonna make it handheld, then it. The. The point is that when you take one bite of it, it shouldn't fully fall apart. That you have to, like, eat it over a bucket. It should be easy to eat in your hand. And that's the whole point.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We're at a baseball game.

[Katie Nolan]

So at this point, you're just making it look like something that's easy to eat handheld but actually isn't. And now I feel like you've tricked me into thinking I can eat this at my seat, and I can't. So actually, get this out of my face. You gave it like a seven and a half. And I was like, she's being too nice.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I. Okay, so I will. I will say this. When you go to any of these types of events where you're, like, trying food, or there's just food sitting out.

[Katie Nolan]

Out.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

The food is sitting out. And I think it was a little bit more melted than it should have been.

[Katie Nolan]

All right. Which she's being fair. I am.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'd like to try to be fair.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. But I. I think to the Yankees.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Come on and see, it's so interesting, this whole, like, Yankees hatred thing.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, here we go.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Because.

[Katie Nolan]

Because.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Because your Yankees is my. Is like my dog Dodgers.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And so to me, that's how. How I speak about the Dodgers. Whereas, like. Yeah. Back in the day, you don't care.

[Katie Nolan]

My fiance is a San Francisco Giants fan.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

So he's like me, where he can go like, oh, the Yankees. And I go like. And I go, oh, the Dodgers. But even though I hate him, but he's like, exactly. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I mean, the Yankees are like. They're not my favorite. They're not my favorite. I know.

[Katie Nolan]

Suck.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. Right?

[Katie Nolan]

They suck.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Well, I do think it's really funny how over the last few years, the Yankees aren't this team that just goes and gets every free agent anymore. And so I find it so funny. I brought up Zach Netto for a sec earlier. Everybody in my office thinks that they're going to get Zach Netto because he's a good shortstop and because. But, but, but see, they have the next Jeter. They have Anthony Volpe. So I don't know why you would want a new shortstop, but it's like, even. Even if you guys wanted him, you're not going to trade for him, because that's just not the destination that all of the players want to go to anymore. So just because you're the Yankees, that doesn't have. Mean that you get my shortstop.

[Katie Nolan]

She said you suck, is what she said.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

If that's how you want to.

[Katie Nolan]

You suck. New York Yankees. We have a couple of selections of food that are new this year across the league that we wanted to get your culinary opinion on. Love. Yes. Because I know you're a real expert.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

So we're gonna start with the Red Sox, because. Why not? They've got lobster poutine. This is crispy fries, lobster meat, meat, clam chowder, crispy bacon, all served in a custom lobster boat.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Katie Nolan]

There's got to be some sort of a liquid on. Must be. Oh, that's a clam chowder, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking of, like, the great, like, the gravy of it all, but okay. Clam chowder is the gravy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

The gravy. Yeah, that would make sense, because I think clam chowder has flour in it, Right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So, yeah, that's like, maybe a gravy.

[Katie Nolan]

Right?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

This looks. Looks incredible.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it kind of Does.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I just released a video earlier today reviewing the Yankees. Sorry to bring them up again.

[Katie Nolan]

Why are you doing this to me?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I know. Because they came out with a King's Hawaiian angry lobster roll. It was my favorite thing, though.

[Katie Nolan]

Angry meaning it was spicy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I mean, spicy, right? Yeah, but it was.

[Katie Nolan]

It was very good. Spicy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yankee spicy. And it was so good. And I said anything seafood. I'm like. So this is like right up my alley. This looks incredible.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And I like that it's lobster poutine, not lobster.

[Katie Nolan]

Same.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And now here's my thing. I don't like lobster.

[Chris]

Whoa.

[Katie Nolan]

I know, I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Why not?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. Whoa. I don't know. But I do like clam chowder. Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But not lobster. No.

[Katie Nolan]

Interesting. I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know what's wrong with me. Nothing. I'm cheap, I guess. You know, it is cheaper.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, that's true. That's a.

[Katie Nolan]

Cheaper, I feel like, than lobster.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's a good point.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, let's do the Phillies. They've got the Schwar bomb sundae. Have you seen this? It's a mini helmet filled with soft serve ice cream topped with funnel cake fried strawberry uncrustable.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Wow.

[Katie Nolan]

Fresh strawberry sauce and fruity. Let's call it what it is. Fruity Pebbles. They can't say that, but we can. Fruity cereal pieces.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

A funnel cake fried strawberry uncrustable is where I'm getting hung up. That is. That sounds delicious.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, it sounds delicious. But I look at this and I think that I'm already having heart palpitations. No, this is. This is a lot. I thought that the mini dessert chicken bucket was a lot. This, to me is.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a lot.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So much. And it's so many different flavors. You have the fruity and then you have.

[Katie Nolan]

Have the.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

The vanilla and you.

[Katie Nolan]

It's also wet and cold. It's also hot and sticky. It's like a lot. It's too many competing adjectives, I feel.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I agree.

[Katie Nolan]

But I do want.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's in the helmet.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Everything should be in a helmet. You should. Everybody who goes to a ball game should leave with a tiny version of their team's helmet. I don't see why that's so difficult

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

for us to do. I agree.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. So we probably wouldn't eat this. Sorry, Kyle. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's just.

[Katie Nolan]

It.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It. I think. Think it's. Yeah. I think I would have heart palpitations if I.

[Katie Nolan]

It's just too much. This would be all I'd eat. And I Would also need to get home right after the game, if you know what I'm saying.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's go to the Diamondbacks. They've got the bases loaded. Nachos. Now, this is an 8 pound bucket of nachos. Classic nachos, with your choice of barbacoa, beef, pork, carnitas or vegetarian fajita. 128 ounces in a bucket, not on a plate. No chance the bottom nachos have anything on them. Right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That was my first thought. There's no way it's a bucket of chips. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And with a top layer of nachos.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes. If anyone can. Can let us know if there's stuff in the middle or on the bottom, please, because that was my. That's my first thought is there's stuff on the top and it looks great. I love that you get an option of what type of meat that you want. There's a vegetarian option. That's awesome. But yeah, when you're halfway through, it's just. It's just tortilla chips. And nobody wants to eat naked tortilla chips.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. So except me. If I'm drunk and it's late at night and I've gotten home from something and it's all I have and it's too. I know I won't be able to stay awake to order food. I'll be asleep before the food gets there. So I go, I love Tostitos. Actually. Actually, I love plain Tostitos. And then I fall asleep eating them. I've done that too, that specific scenario.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But only when that's all that I have in my bag. Then, yes. Torcitos are the best. Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

But please, I don't want to be at a game going, I paid for

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

them, I have to eat them.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my gosh, the Rockies have pizza. Yes, yes. Donuts covered in garlic butter. I'm already in. Grated parmesan cheese, mozzarella cheese, pepperoni, marinara sauce, pesto sauce, Italian sauce, seasoning.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm all in on this.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I am, too. Why hasn't anyone done this before?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I don't know. I'm. I'm curious as to how it's served to you. Is it in, like a little sleeve? Is it on a plate? Like, how do you eat it? Because this could be very messy if you don't have, like, a napkin or a sleeve to, like, eat it with. But this, this looks great.

[Katie Nolan]

It does. When pizza's on a donut, you can eat pizza anytime. That's what they say.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's exactly Right.

[Katie Nolan]

That's what they say. That's right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And you don't need.

[Katie Nolan]

Need.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm assuming, any utensils. So it's easy to eat at a ball, like, at a game. Like, I. I want it to be easy to eat. And I don't need a fork to eat this.

[Katie Nolan]

Now, I don't know why anybody told me this, but it says here that dude wipes replied to a picture of these on Twitter.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay. As they do.

[Katie Nolan]

And said, those donuts won't be the only holes that need wiping. I. Why do I know that? Why did anybody tell me that that happened?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Are you kidding me?

[Katie Nolan]

Get out of here.

[Ad Voice]

Here.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

What are you doing here? Dude wipes.

[Katie Nolan]

What? Go away. Dude wipes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Read it one more time for me.

[Katie Nolan]

Those donuts won't be the only holes that need wiping. It doesn't even make sense. Doesn't make any sense.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's why I had you read it again.

[Katie Nolan]

Not wiping that hole.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Like, is there even a hole?

[Katie Nolan]

Right? It's covered by cheese. Cheese. There's a hole. Dude wipes. And then dude wipes replies to this and says, that's not the only hole I'd like to cover. And cheese, like, get. Dude wipes. Please, please leave my. Me and my family alone.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Please leave us alone. We just want to watch baseball donuts. That's crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's go to the Mets. They. They once again will have a new egg roll at walk and roll for every series based on the local cuisine of the visiting teams. We actually got an email from a listener about this. Her name was Nisha. She said, hey, Katie. And the casuals. And mostly Isabella. But I also bet if you. She knew you were here, she would have said, and also swilly. Did you see that the Mets have a new egg roll for each opponent? Minnesota hot dish egg roll, Boston clam chowder, egg roll. Detroit coney dog egg roll, Cincinnati skyline chili egg roll. I need Isabella to get season tickets and review them for us all, which actually sounds really fun. Do you. Are you familiar with the Minnesota hot dish?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No, not familiar, unfortunately.

[Katie Nolan]

Would you like to become familiar? I can tell you what it is.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I. Katie, I would love nothing more.

[Katie Nolan]

It's a layered casserole featuring ground beef, cream of mushroom soup.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Fro, mixed frozen vegetables.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

And a crispy top layer of tater tots.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So as.

[Katie Nolan]

As the child of a bartender, I can tell you that's mom cooking dinner on her way out the door, that is. I toss these things in a casserole dish. I put them in the oven Take them out when it's time to eat it. I won't be here. But it sounds fine enough. I eat that I'm.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I'm on board. I'd give it a try.

[Katie Nolan]

Fine.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

All of these. I actually didn't know. I knew that they had egg rolls, but I didn't know that they were different based on the opponent. A fake baseball fan.

[Katie Nolan]

No, no. But you're still good. This is incredible. Isn't it cute?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I love this. And I am mad that I don't think I'm going to be able to try every single one because Pittsburgh is already gone.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So I don't get to.

[Katie Nolan]

And a pierogi egg roll. I'm so interested. I'm so interested now. San Francisco Burger. What happened there? San Francisco burger. 94 bottom, right?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. Maybe it's just like burger.

[Katie Nolan]

Is it where it was invented? I don't. Oh, I don't feel like that's true.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, that's a good point.

[Katie Nolan]

1. Give me a. Give me a rice. A roni egg roll.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That makes more sense to me.

[Katie Nolan]

You know, I think. I think. I don't know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I have to look at some more of these because they all.

[Katie Nolan]

Fried ravioli.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Take me there. I want to go there.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. And I immediately gravitate to the al pastor and the carne asada.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Chimichanga. All in. All in on that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So good. Good. Wow. This is incredible.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

They all kind of make sense.

[Katie Nolan]

And it's cute. It's a lot of effort they have to put in, and I like that they did that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Except with San Francisco, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, except. And. But I guess at some point you do have to use a burger. You're like, I got a great cheeseburger egg roll. Who can I give it to? They're like, yeah, just give it to San Francisco. They don't really have a lot of other stuff, I guess. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Maybe this is me being ignorant, but I don't know if I can think of, like, a signature Ghirardell.

[Katie Nolan]

That's San Francisco, right? Yeah. The chocolate egg roll I'd eat.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Do they have any dessert ones?

[Katie Nolan]

No. And that's. And I'm sorry for pointing out their only shortcoming, but that is something I'd need them to address for next season.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, I agree. We need dessert ones.

[Katie Nolan]

We need a dessert one.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I agree.

[Katie Nolan]

The Mets are also one of six teams doing this 999 challenge for $60. You did this in Philly last year.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I did. Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Give really strong opinions on this that I don't feel are cute for tv.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay, wait, but I want to hear them.

[Katie Nolan]

How did it. How was that for you? Did you complete the challenge?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I did. I did complete the challenge. I don't have a gluten allergy.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But I try to avoid it.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

When I can. Cuz it kind of like gluten sensitive a little.

[Katie Nolan]

It. It.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It makes my tummy feel like there's a balloon inside of it. So I try to avoid it. So that actually was kind of how.

[Katie Nolan]

Hell yeah. And we had to do the Kobayashi where you're just taking out the. The buns and dipping them in the. And just getting that part. Just eating raw hot dog a little bit.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, it was.

[Katie Nolan]

It was.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It was tough. I'm really proud of myself that I persevered and I did it though. One of my bigger accomplishments. One thing that they don't talk about, though, is that, you know, when you have. If you're doing a real 999, that means that you are eating a hot dog and drinking a beer in the. The first. And then you are eating a hot dog and drinking a beer in the second.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, is that true?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I think so. That's what I've always thought.

[Katie Nolan]

So when I. So when I did it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

I didn't complete it, but I did.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

But.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But if you do a real one. I don't. I said to them, I'm like, hey,

[Katie Nolan]

are we allowed to pace ourselves or do we have to do one per. And they. This was also before the pitch clock. At this point, I imagine it's. It's more difficult to do this in that span of time.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

But at the time, they were like, no, you just. In the span of nine innings, have to get it done.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

Was what I was told it could be bad intel.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Interesting.

[Katie Nolan]

Who knows? It came from whatever website guy. Website I was working for at the time. It's not the greatest source.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

But interesting. My issue with this Aramark version.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Is that it's tiny hot dogs.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And the beer. They give you like a beer, right? It's a tall boy. And you. And they give you these little glasses. Are they glass or are they. I assume they're plastic.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

They give you these little glasses and you have. Have to pour. And if you were to pour the beers.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The beer does not fill them. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

If you're trying to fill it up to the top.

[Katie Nolan]

So you'd have to just give yourself like half of a glass of already not big enough beer. And they're selling this for 60 bucks. And I feel like if I spend 60 bucks on something just to finish and have someone go, like, that wasn't even the real challenge. Now you've just eaten a little too much and drank, like, a little too little.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

A little too little.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like, at least make it two. Give them. It just gets away with. Like, they want the. The. It's the given of it, but they don't actually go through with it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

It makes me mad. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

No, that's. That's so valid. And it isn't.

[Katie Nolan]

It's stupid. So mad. No, I think it is stolen valor.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I think it is because, you know, we say this all the time. Like, oh, oh, you know, of course they're gonna. They're gonna charge that much. It's a ballpark. And I'm like, okay, I don't care. That's expensive. Like, just, like. I don't think that that's. I don't think it's fair. You're already charging all this for parking. You're like, whatever. I think that concessions in general are just insanely priced.

[Katie Nolan]

Insanely priced. Yeah, but.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But I think it. They just want the gimmick of it all. They want people to post about on social media. And maybe I fed into that.

[Katie Nolan]

No, don't blame me, because when I

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

did it in Philly, it was a hot topic. I know it was a hot topic. And I had such a good time. Such a good time doing it. And we were getting inning updates via me and Ryan. Shout out Ryan. He was recording the whole thing. I'm like, this poor man has to record me trying to force feed myself a hot dog and drink a beer. And it was awful.

[Katie Nolan]

But yeah, it's.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's interesting.

[Katie Nolan]

But I wish they would just go, if you want to attempt the 999 challenge and you, like, let them know that they would give you, like, your eighth beer for free or something. Obviously, I don't think they can actually even legally serve you nine.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay. I was gonna. I was gonna say, I think part of it too, is that they just don't want these people to be and,

[Katie Nolan]

like, liable for the actual. But it just makes me go like, well, then don't participate in the thing. It's like when basketball was like, we're doing a magic city night. And then everybody was like, you can't participate in that because then you would have. It's like, don't half act. Pass it. Just go, right? Don't just pass it. So anyway, that bothered me. But actually, I think probably more offensive is that. That Dodgers Shohei Ohtani commemorative cup. Do you see that? That's going for, like, $90.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And they were like, yeah, but every time you come here, it's free refills. And you're like, yeah, but they do that at other ballparks, and it's like a 12 cup.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right?

[Katie Nolan]

It doesn't need to be $90.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Well, wasn't it originally just you get free refills at that game and then they changed it. It or something like that? I don't remember exactly what the original verbiage was. I think it was you get free refills for the day or for that series or something. And then somebody took a picture of the same menu, like, the next day, and it said for the whole.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Season. Which in my head, unfortunately, the marketing got me because I'm like, oh, that's way better of a deal. But then you just said, ballparks do this all the time for, like, 25% of the price.

[Katie Nolan]

90.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

90 bucks is crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Is crazy.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But it's the Dodgers, and they can get away with it, and people will buy it, and.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And that's that.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So good for them, I guess. I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

We got a. We got a voicemail. We usually do voicemails at the end of our show, and we got one that I actually thought would be really interesting to answer with you, if you would be open to doing so.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Sure, let's hear it.

[Katie Nolan]

So let's go ahead and take a listen. This is a voicemail we got from Audrey in Massachusetts. Hi, Katie. And the casualties.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's Audrey from Massachusetts. And I have a baseball question, which is funny for me because I'm a really big baseball fan. Specifically Red Sox, obviously. Who else?

[Katie Nolan]

But here's the thing.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

The Red Sox have had a stinker of a start. We don't look good.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's not been fun to watch these games. So my question is, when is it appropriate to start worrying? Because I know it's March or it's April now, and everyone tells me it's only four games. There's only five games, still 157 to go. So I'm like, okay, okay. We can't worry yet. When is the right time?

[Katie Nolan]

I would love to know when it's

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

appropriate to crash out over how poorly the Red Sox are doing.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you. I love you, and I mean it. Bye, Audrey. We love you and we mean it. That was. That's the perfect voicemail. She's all of us. She is truly I. Because for me, the answer was like, this weekend. I lost my mind this weekend watching us. And then this week watching us start losing to the Astros, a team that I would punch in its face if I could. It just was like, what the. Why do I like this sport? What am I doing here? Get me out of here. I hate it every time they bring out another guy whose name I have to learn, who's going to play. Play third base.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

A position that we very recently had two great names at. What happened there? And every time this guy steps up to the plate, it's in an important moment. And every time, he's either hitting into a double player, striking out, and it's not his fault, but I'm like, get him off my cheese. And so I was hoping, Swilly, that you could talk us. Those of us who have had a bad start to our season. Okay. Help remind us that, like, it is not time to carry yet. And how do you get yourself to stop caring so much while still caring? Jeez.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That. That last question I don't know if I can answer because I am on the edge of my seat in August watching Angel games. So don't ask me about how to not care as much. That's. I cannot answer that. But, you know, yes. As a. As a fan of a team that is 3 and 3.

[Katie Nolan]

Nice.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

3 and 3.

[Katie Nolan]

Not bad.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I can take it, Katie.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the regular. Yeah. Honestly.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And, you know, this is me looking at it from an outside perspective. This is me not having watched baseball today. This is me where my team won last night. Genuinely. I think that you can go a couple. I would say maybe like, six to eight weeks of the season, and then just be like, something has got to change. Some of these players. Players. And I don't know the case with the third baseman, because. Yeah, you're right. You guys had two.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, what the.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Hey, you're. You're preaching to the choir with third base. You want to talk about Anthony Rendone? Yeah. That's a whole different concept. I mean, you're preaching to the choir about third base, man.

[Katie Nolan]

Fair.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So, you know, like, sometimes it takes these guys a long time to get it going. Like, you look at a guy like Julio Rodriguez, like, we were. I was just talking about him earlier. Earlier today. He, notoriously, is bad, like, the first half of the season. And. And maybe if I wanted to be a little less harsh, I could say the first, like, two months. And then after the first two months are done, Julio is. Is Julio, like, he is hitting the ball hard. He's running, he's stealing bases, he is driving guys in. And. And that's. That's the Julio that we know.

[Katie Nolan]

It.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It can take some of these guys weeks before they are like, okay, I actually feel like I can hit a baseball again. So I feel like a good point of being like, okay, I can actually maybe look at how some other teams are doing, maybe look at the standings, maybe look and see, oh, what teams are going to have these players on the trading block. What. What teams might acquire a new player or two. Yeah, I feel good about that. Maybe, like, six to eight weeks into the season.

[Katie Nolan]

All right.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That would probably be my, like, happy zone.

[Katie Nolan]

That's good. Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Smart.

[Katie Nolan]

I think where I'm at is I've started to try to tell myself that, like, listen, you tune into your team if it starts to become too painful doing.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, I mean, we've been losing to the Astros, like, by a lot. And it's like, if that's. If it's not enjoyable in the early weeks, you are allowed to go. Who else is playing right now? Maybe I go watch a different game and then check the socks score. And you go, okay, they lost this one. You don't have to watch every pitch if your team is pissing you off. It's very true. I think that helps me because I don't. Like I said, I don't want to be mad at, like, Caleb Durbin. I don't. I don't know the guy. I don't know if he's our. Gonna be our first forever third baseman or we're just trying him out, like, and it's not his fault, and it's not fair. And so I can acknowledge that, like, maybe I don't have to watch all of his at bats. Yeah, maybe I go watch a different game for a little get. Keep my finger on the pulse.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

But by the time we hit the All Star break and we start coming out the other side, if we're not hitting the ground running, it's like, you know, that's when things get like, okay, now. Now I'm openly angry.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Without a doubt. Without a doubt. And I think. I mean, the playoffs in general are always about who's the hottest team going into it. So, like, yeah, these games matter, but there are 162.

[Katie Nolan]

So many. But it's. What I don't ever make it less. Please. I. Like, it's too many. It's too many. And I go, I can't. It's.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's still, my favorite thing is speaking of him again. Again.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, he said he didn't even like playing. And you guys were like, do you want a ton of money?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right? Do you want so much money that you're going to have, like, a top five biggest contract in all of Major League Baseball? Actually.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, I know you said that. It's, like, really a job for you out there. Could we pay you the most?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Can we just give you 40 mil a year? Would you like that?

[Katie Nolan]

Absurd. I just, you know, I love. I love it. I love it being every day. I love when you tell somebody that, like, isn't paying close attention to baseball. When you go, like, you know, it's every day. Yeah. Like, it's every day. And then there's like an off day, and then it's every day.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And there. It's like, you know, they practice the day of the game. It's like. It is. The watching people go like, whoa. Really is awesome. Because it's the. It's the only game like this where it's just constant. And so that's what I try to remind myself. Audrey. And anybody listening when I'm watching my team is that, like, it really is a marathon, not a sprint.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

And the guy in first place in those first few miles is just the guy that's gonna be burnt out by the time you're at the end. Yeah. And so there is pacing to all of it. And the beauty of it is in the crawl.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, that's exactly right.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. I just love it. I just love baseball so much.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's the best. And I think that's another part of, you know, the reason why I love baseball so much is because it is routine. It is. It is part of my routine. And then when it poof. Disappears in October, I'm like, okay, I go, now what? So now what do I do?

[Katie Nolan]

What am I doing every night?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Right.

[Katie Nolan]

I gotta decide on my own every night. No.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. I like having it decided for me already.

[Katie Nolan]

Me too. I like having. It's like checking in with your stories, you know, I like knowing what's going on.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

I have to.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

And we also have such an awful off season. Baseball. It's the worst.

[Katie Nolan]

Worst.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

It's so boring for all of the weeks, except for, like, two of them. I know. It's the worst.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But that's a whole different discussion.

[Katie Nolan]

It's over and we're back in it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's right.

[Katie Nolan]

And I'm so excited.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Me, too.

[Katie Nolan]

I also think it's Important that you have secondary teams.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

If your team is not doing well, you can check in on your other teams. Now, these are just light. Light affiliations.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not like keeping a full roster. Not cheating on the Red Sox.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Of course not.

[Katie Nolan]

But I think it's safe to have a National League team.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

That I go, like, I root for them. And that changes based off of my mood and free agency and such.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

I would say it's been the Phillies for a while.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, that. I feel like that makes a lot of sense.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. What does that mean? What happened with you there when you did that?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Because Phillies fans are super passionate and so are Red Sox fans.

[Katie Nolan]

I love Phillies fans.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. Like, if you. If I met you for the first time and I found out you're a baseball fan and you told me you were Phillies fan, I totally believe it. Oh, yeah. I feel like that makes a lot of sense.

[Katie Nolan]

That's cute.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. You know, and I love Philly. I love intense fans. Like, I love it because if my team was good, I would be insufferable. Yeah, I'd be insufferable.

[Katie Nolan]

I'd actually really like to see that.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Thank you, everybody.

[Katie Nolan]

You put in a lot of time.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Thank you, babe.

[Katie Nolan]

You appreciate it to be insufferable. In all this time, you've never started rooting for another team. It's Angels all the way. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

The. So I will say the team that really got me into to baseball as a whole, as opposed to just Angels baseball, were those early 2000s giants teams.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, what a team. I love them. Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I loved Buster Posey. I love Brandon Crawford. I love Hunter Pence, Pablo Sandoval.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out. Hunter Pence.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, I loved him. And, you know, there was something about watching a guy like Brian Wilson take the mound with his big old black beard and. And. And doing interviews with Chris Rose, which, by the way, Chris Rose is the best person I've ever met in my entire life. And I watched him on TV in high school and now he's like my friend.

[Katie Nolan]

It's.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Chris Rose is the best.

[Katie Nolan]

How cool is that?

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Have you met him?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

But, like, it was a long time ago.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. He's awesome.

[Katie Nolan]

Hell, yeah.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. So, like, just, I love, like, the person. Again, going back to how important I think it is for personalities to be on display in baseball, because I think they're doing a better job. But in the past, I don't think Major League Baseball has done a great job of showcasing these guys, like, as individuals that Team was a full of a bunch of characters, and I loved it.

[Katie Nolan]

Really was.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out to that Giants team.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah. So I. I like to tune into the Giants every once in a while.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. And I do that, too, but that's just because I'm marrying into it.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's fair.

[Katie Nolan]

So you got to support the.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

The teams of your significant other.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

What if I told you that my boyfriend was a Rockies fan?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. I'd say you got. It's an uphill battle. You know, it is a mountain to climb.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Mountain to climb. Beautiful, beautiful stadium.

[Katie Nolan]

Gorgeous. One of my favorite stadiums.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I love. Course. And now they have pizza donuts, so.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah. I do still hold it against them that when I went to Coors Field, a field famously known for home runs. Yes. Because of the altitude.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Of course.

[Katie Nolan]

I saw a pitcher's duel. It went to extra innings tied at zero, and they, I think, won it one nothing. And it was like, are you.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That's crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

Kidding me.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

But you. You did sweep them at the World Series, though, so.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's fine.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

So you take what you can get.

[Katie Nolan]

That part is fine.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Katie Nolan]

All right, Swilly, this has been really fun.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much for having me. I had such a blast. And anytime you want to talk baseball, I'm very close.

[Katie Nolan]

Yay. We'll just have you come back all the time then, and we can talk about whatever you want to.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

That sounds great. Sign me up.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

I forget if I yell at this part or not. I don't think I do sometimes do, sometimes not. Yeah, big shout out to Swilly. I mean, I don't think I called her Sarah once. Is that bad? Same thing with when John Boy was here. I think I called him John Boy the whole time. I don't know. I feel like that's allowed.

[Chris]

Yeah, of course.

[Katie Nolan]

Great. Fantastic. Look, it's the end of the show, which means we got to check our inbox. We already managed to do some with Swilly, but let's go ahead and listen to maybe a voicemail. Chris, you got a voicemail for me?

[Chris]

I surely do. Let's play the voicemail from Elliot from New York. Let's have a listen.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, Katie.

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Katie Nolan]

All right. Elliot and I love. Look, while I love the idea of a Katy Nolan Darby, I do also feel like we're already in the hole. Correct. Did not Gotham beat Boston in the first. Wasn't it the first game of the season? So it's a good idea. It's just like. Feels like filling out a March Madness bracket right now where it's like it's. They already have a lead. I feel like we would have had to come up with this sooner because this is unfair, but it's. I don't hate the idea. I just hate it because it's got me still on every week. I feel like we discuss this at some point. I'm gonna have to come up with a solution.

[Chris]

Yep. People are getting creative. They're emailing in. They're calling in with some ideas. We're gonna get you guys call in

[Katie Nolan]

to just shame her into picking one so that she doesn't take so long to pick one. Yeah. Okay. Hey, Isabella's going to a Dodgers game and getting a Dodgers Hey. Sweatshirt. Don't. Don't get rid of context. Don't get rid of context. It's a Dodgers Mets game, but they're giving away a hello Kitty Dodgers sweatshirt.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

And I did not know that until afterwards.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

All right. She's still gonna wear it, though.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

We think.

[Katie Nolan]

No. Why are you being a. Because you started. You went first. Okay, just end it. I'm taking my head. We have one more email. Give me Haley.

[Chris]

Haley writes in and says I need to hear the casualties thoughts on something. I went to the Denver summit game last weekend, and they were. And they were trying to get the chant sum it up to happen. How do you feel about this, Matthew chant?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Well, how do we feel?

[Chris]

Sum it up.

[Katie Nolan]

Summit up, I assume, is the cadence. Yes, it could be.

[Chris]

I would say so.

[Katie Nolan]

Anything else but sum it up? I like it. I like it for a number of reasons. There's like, the double entendre of, like, sum it up and summit a mountain. And up, which is good. You want them to be up as a team and up a mountain. I like all of that, but the actual math sum it up unfortunately, doesn't mean anything that helps motivate in sports. Sum up.

[Chris]

What if. What if you only chant it after you win? So you're summing up the scores and then you're of pointing to the numbers and saying, hey, we won.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure. Listen, there's been worse chance. I don't. I don't hate it. I wish Haley would have told us how she felt, that she liked it or disliked it. But I. I feel like it's. What else. What's the better thing they could say, you know, like Mountain. Mountain. Like either way. Mountain Mountain Dew. But do. It's kind of the same. Kind of the same idea.

[Chris]

We'll see if they can catch on.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, right.

[Chris]

Haley can report back for sure.

[Katie Nolan]

Whatever. You guys, Isabelle is kind of bullying me, so I think I'm gonna wrap up. Actually, can I apologize? Yeah. And I'm sorry too. I was only mean in retaliation and I've been feeling bad about it since.

[Sarah Wilson (Swilly)]

I know.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry too. Let's never fight again. It's really not good for the podcast boys. You can leave. Honestly, I. Just kidding. That's it, guys. For the show. For the week of shows. Honestly. Honestly, I thought it was a good one. Thanks for all of your emails and your calls. Big thanks to Swilly and. And the casualties for all the. I don't know, I feel like we discussed a lot of heavy stuff this week and every time we do this, I just go home and go, did I accidentally say the wrong thing? And I stress about it. So I'm gonna head off to go do that now. Thank you for listening. I love you. I'm Mina and we'll see you back here next week. Bye. This episode is presented by gmc. We are professional grade.

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