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Casuals with Katie Nolan
No-Hitter Shenanigans, John Cena’s Head, and the Stanley Cup Water Cooler
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Hello! It's the podcast that knows the right way to pronounce Stankoven. Today, Katie breaks down the strategy of a Jeopardy! buzzer, how not to watch gory movies with a spouse, why you should care about Luka, Tatum, SGA, and the NBA Playoffs, Nico Harrison and new ways for GMs to become less self-aware, Max Friend's no-hitter and the ethics of doxxing a scorekeeper, WrestleMania 41 and believing in Joe Hendry, John Cena, Drake, and a casual's guide to water cooler talk about the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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Katie Nolan
For 140 years, MultiCare has been in Washington prioritizing long term solutions, partnering with.
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Isabella
Local communities and expanding access to care.
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Katie Nolan
Together, we're building a healthier future. Learn more@mycare.org.
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Chris
If you've been having your McDonald's sausage McMuffin with an iced coffee from somewhere else, now is a great time to reconsider.
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Katie Nolan
In the Pacific Northwest, it's never too cold for an iced coffee in the morning. Grab yourself some medium caramel, French vanilla or classic iced coffee for just $2.29. Warning. Beverage may cause craving for McMuffin or hash browns. Prices and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer or combo meal. Hey, Isabella, did you see this video of Tom Brady dancing to Travis Scott at Coachella?
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Isabella
No, I did not.
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Katie Nolan
You wanna go ahead and take a. You just pop those words into Google and take a look.
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Isabella
For me, I really love the hands in the pockets. The.
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Katie Nolan
Is he cool?
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Isabella
You know what? I don't know enough about Tom Brady to understand. That's why I ask the full spectrum. But I mean, so far, what you guys have been showing me, this guy seems kind of chill, you know.
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Katie Nolan
What have we shown you so far?
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Isabella
His shirtless photo from the combine.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, that was. She loves personal growth.
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Isabella
Yeah. You know, and I thought, you know, he's on the Patriots and that's your team, so.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, well, he's. But then before he stopped, he went somewhere else, so he's not really even. He didn't go out with us.
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Isabella
And that was the Marlins.
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Katie Nolan
Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast for people that care and they want to care and they want to know, but they don't perform, how much they care for everybody and quiz people to make sure they care as much. It's that podcast that does that. I'm your host, Katie Nolan, joined today by my producing crew. We have Isabella here in studio. Well, not like in studio, but like you're here with me in the building. And then we've got Brady and Chris over zoom the casualties. Or is that what we're calling our fans? I don't remember.
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Brady
Oh, I thought it was the fans. But I think we think we can still be cool.
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Katie Nolan
But we do need a shipping container esque word for you guys. So, you know, think on it. If you want to reach us, you can email us Casuals with katie nolan@gmail.com. our voicemail 646-810-0043 on IG and TikTok. We are at Casualsthepodcast. I am vetoing the Yap. Today, I'm replacing the Yap. Look, we have a lot of sports to get to. It is the postseason, which for a lot of casuals, as you know, this is our season. This is the season to care. You can have not watched basketball or hockey all season, and it's worth tuning in for the playoffs because this is when shit gets real. Um, and so we're going to start off with a basketball preview. Chris is going to walk us through some of the things to look for or care about in the NBA postseason. And then at the end of the episode, I'm going to give you my water cooler cheat sheet for if you want to participate in conversation, conversations about the NHL playoffs, but you don't necessarily know enough. And it's like, I'm not going to give you real information, but you'll be able to stay afloat. And then in between there in the middle, we're going to go through a bunch of the other headlines that happened this week in sports. But up top here, rather than yapping, since this is going to be a pretty yappy episode, I. I. Look, I don't want to reference my old podcast. I'm trying not to do that that much. But we used to have on the old pod, this section was called Host chat. And so I think today we're going to kind of emulate that, where the four of us are just kind of bantering about unrelated things, doing a little bit of housekeeping, getting stuff out of the way. What's wrong?
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Isabella
You talked to other people on other podcasts before, not just us.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, but it didn't mean anything.
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Isabella
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
It didn't mean anything at all. I didn't know podcasting. I didn't know podcasting until I met you guys.
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Isabella
That's what I thought.
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Katie Nolan
You're my true podcast. And then also not again to mention my ex. But we used to have a segment on there called Pope Facts, and I feel it is necessary for me to give the saddest Pope fact. But the Pope has passed away. Died. Feels mean. I don't know if that's because I've been scrolling through TikTok where they say, like, unalived, but like, the Pope died. It's like, whoa, chill. That's harsh. So I just said, the Pope has passed away. I hope that's okay with everyone. May he rest. May he rest in the most peace. But yeah, the Pope. Do you guys have any. Do you guys want to say anything about the Pope?
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Isabella
RIP.
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Katie Nolan
That's right. That's it. Wow. Nobody you heathens. No one has anything to say.
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Chris
I do enjoy the Pope selection process. Like, the puffing of the white smoke is.
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Katie Nolan
The.
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Chris
What have you.
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Katie Nolan
The white smoke. Like they're.
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Chris
The puffing of the white smoke is a thing.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Chris
Fantastic declaration of your new Pope. I look forward to that one. Not trying to replace the Pope immediately, but due time. It's a great ceremony.
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Katie Nolan
We gotta also mention, give Brady a break. He was. He just got off of a plane. He just got back from Wrestlemania. So Brady's on about an hour of sleep and just let that cover whatever mistakes happen throughout this podcast. That was for you, Brady.
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Chris
I can't understate the effects of five days in Las Vegas working will have on any human being.
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Katie Nolan
Mm. Mm. Not for me. Chris, you were talking about soccer. The Pope in soccer.
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Brady
Yeah, obviously Pope big deal in Italy and the world, but mainly Italy. The Syria, the Italian soccer league, postponed some of their games because of the news of the Pope passing.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, wow.
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Brady
So that shows the enormity of the event. And we try to tie everything back to the sports world there. So the fact that the Syria has taken a brief hiatus from competition for a couple of days so everyone can. Can mourn the loss of the Pope, who had a good innings. 88. He lived too, which is pretty impressive. I'd. I'd appreciate to live to at least 88. That'd be nice.
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Chris
Good poping.
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Brady
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
He poped. He really poped. Well. Big soccer fan too, I also think. I don't know if this is just like the way we claim Christopher Columbus, but Italy claims him as well. I think he was Italian, born in Argentina, but I believe he has Italian heritage. And if not, well, this isn't a pope podcast. So why are you getting your Pope information from me? Next item of business. I'm out of clothes. That's what I wrote here in the document. I'm out of clothes. One of the main reasons. Well, not main, but a top reason this is audio only, is cause I just don't get fits off like that. I don't. I have a closet full of clothing, and I hate all of it. And I've worn all the good stuff today. If you could see me, I'm wearing. What I have is a lot of graphic T shirts. Dan makes me graphic T shirts as gifts, and they're always funny and they're always great. But I'm also nearing 40, and I can't just be going outside in different graphic T shirts every day, especially when a lot of times the graphics are like representations of my dog or my fiance. But this one. This is one of my favorites. It says cath, because that's what some people call me. And it. But it's in the form of kith. So it looks like a kith shirt, but if you look closely, it says kath. And so I. This one is. And that's. You're gonna. Basically, I'm saying you're gonna see a lot more of this. Of just silly graphic T shirts, because it's. I'm. I can't care this much about that part. I've never cared about that part. And now people. I don't like being perceived.
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Chris
Well, until you said that you were being lazy, I assumed you were being really hip and cool and doing something I didn't understand. You just could have just, like, left that mirage there.
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Katie Nolan
I think most other people. This is no offense to where you stand in the hierarchy of coolness against the world, you versus the field. I just think they're. You're. You're. They would know. I've acquired clothes over the years sometimes from, like, you know, doing stuff on camera. They'll give you wardrobe, and then those are. No, let me finish.
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Isabella
Prada, pink pants. Don't think I forgot about that.
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Katie Nolan
Here's what I was gonna say. Most of it I'm never gonna wear again. And it's the nicest stuff I own, so I, like, don't wanna get rid of it. But it's also taken up a lot of space. So I'm just in this constant shame spiral of having too much clothing, hating most of it, and not wanting to get rid of it because it feels like something I should be grateful to have in the first place.
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Chris
I think that's exactly where that Paul Skeens turtleneck is gonna live. Like, Paul Skeenes is never wearing that turtleneck from the photo shoot again. But it's probably a 900 turtleneck that's gonna hang in his closet.
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Katie Nolan
You just don't want to get rid of it. I've donated so much clothing in my building. Thank God. They have, like, a clothing donation spot, and I use it, like, monthly.
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Isabella
That's actually really cool.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, great idea. Really nice. Because otherwise, you just acquire. You just keep accumulating the bags that you're gonna donate, and then you have to, like, figure out where to go with that. But this is, like, you can just take it down and.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Brady
Do they donate it to Goodwill or to other people within your building?
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Katie Nolan
I think it's to Goodwill. I don't think it's to That's a little. It'd be a little weird if I kept running into my graphic T shirts on the, on the elevator.
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Chris
They donated. There's a nonprofit of podcast producers that just need shirts being donated.
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Katie Nolan
Uh, two last things in housekeeping before we get into the sports news. I'm sorry this is taking so long. Mina was on Celebrity Jeopardy. We wanted to follow up on that. She lost in her semifinal. I don't want to talk about it too much because listen, I, I told Mina, watch Jeopardy. I told her the. You can prep all you want, all that's really gonna matter. Watch a bunch of Jeopardy. And based off of what happened, I can tell you she did not do that. And so I'm not saying I'm mad at Mina. I'm not. I'm proud of her. Thought she did great. Um, I think she could have done better. And it was very funny to see. Cause Dan and I watched it together. Dan took it like a 49ers loss. Dan was so mad at her like, like the way he would be at his own team for like making a. He was very up and so. But we're ultimately proud of the season she put together. Thought she did a great job. Charming as all get out. Smart as hell. That buzzer. A fickle mistress. Difficult to get in with that buzzer. But I thought she did great. It's just the wagering. It was believing in herself. At the end of the day, it was believing in herself. She didn't do that.
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Chris
Now I've always wanted to ask you, can you expand on the buzzer? Because like I see the people who the question will be asked and they are thumb up, rapid fire pressing. And it doesn't go to them and they, they look like, like they have done something wrong. Clearly they are pressing that buzzer.
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Katie Nolan
So the big screen that has the playing board on it, on the sides of it running down both sides are white lights that as soon as the buzzing is open, as in like you can ring in. Cuz you can't ring in until the question's done. As soon as that's it's go time those light up. Some people time it off of the lights, some people time it off of the cadence of the host. If you know that it's why it was difficult during the guest host run because everybody read the questions differently. But if you know Ken's cadence, you can jump in. Almost like when they hit the button for the light, you're hitting the button for the buzzer. If you buzz in too early, you get locked out, so you can't buzz in again for a couple seconds. So it's all about, like, waiting, but not waiting too long. And then if you get. If somebody gets it wrong, you're just, like, hammering the thing, trying to be the next person to jump in. It's tough. It's tough. Cause you don't want to go too early, and you definitely don't want to go too late. So Mina's issue, though, was the double jeopardies, which will always get you. But she just didn't believe in herself. She didn't make it. Or true daily double. She didn't make them daily doubles. She didn't make them true daily doubles. She ran out of. She didn't have enough money. I think one of them. She wagered a couple hundred. I was like, I've never seen. You don't go below a thousand. What do you mean, hundreds? What do we do?
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Brady
700, I think it was.
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Katie Nolan
What are we doing? Mina. But she didn't know.
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Chris
Do they specifically tell you do not wager in non multiples of a hundred?
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Katie Nolan
No, you can truly wager whatever you want to, but if you've watched enough of the show, you just, like. You're kind of at that point, you're wagering from the lead, but you want to get ahead, you go at least like 3,000. And when she gave a hundred, we were there was. It was loud. Our neighbors heard. It was shock. But I love her, and it's a good thing she didn't go further than me, because that maybe would have hurt my ego. So I'm still the reigning champion of women in sports doing celebrity Jeopardy. And I'll wear that with pride. And then the last thing I just wanted to ask. Cause I saw a lot of discourse about it, but I have not seen it. And I don't know if I'm going to because it's a scary movie. And as we've covered here, I'm too scared. But, Chris, have you seen Sinners?
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Brady
Oh, not yet, but the trailer looks awesome.
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Katie Nolan
It does. And everybody's talking about how awesome it is. Dan asked if I wanted to go see it. I said, I think I'd be too scared. And he goes, I'll be there with you. And. And I love him. I love him. But I have. When I. When there's a needle on tv. Look, make fun of me, roast me, whatever. When there's a needle on something and it's going into skin, which for some reason, society's fine with. There's commercials where they straight up show needles going into skin. And if you're me, you get really lightheaded when that happen, because it's your deepest, darkest fear, and you pass out around needles. So when there's needles on tv, I'll look at Dan if it's a TV show, and I'll look at him, and he's watching the show, and I'll be like, just tell me when it's over or if anything's hap. I'm like, oh, okay, he's going into the drawer. Now he's gonna. Don't look yet. But he's like, keep me abreast of what's going on. And Dan will just go, still needle. Oh, shoot. Oh, wow. Oh, I can't believe that. Still needle. And that's not helpful. So it was very sweet when he was like, I'll be. I was like, that's not. That doesn't assure me at all. Okay, now that I've wasted 15 minutes talking about absolutely nothing during the two peak moments in sports, let's start with one of them. It is the NBA playoffs. We have arrived in the first round of the NBA playoffs. Now, it's no mystery or secret that I'm a bigger hockey fan than I am a basketball fan, but I still make an effort to be engaged, especially in the postseason. One thing that has a little bit I. And Chris, please tell me if this is wrong. I feel like the first round in basketball is a lot of sweeps. I feel like the way everybody's talking about, like, the OKC Memphis series, the Boston Orlando series, and the Miami Cleveland series, everyone's kind of like, those are most likely sweeps, which, for. I don't know if anybody doesn't know that would be that they win all four games in a row, and the other team never gets a win. It's best of seven. So it's the first team to get to four wins moves on to the next round. And then this. I want to remind everybody, because I forget this every year, the format is 22111. So it's two home games for the best seed, and then it's two home games for the other team, and then they alternate cities for the last three if those games are necessary. But, Chris, what is the big. I think maybe you should do the give us stuff to get excited for for the NBA postseason. Give us, like, the big storylines, maybe.
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Brady
Yeah, of course.
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Katie Nolan
So great.
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Brady
I think the. The biggest storyline to look out for the OKC Thunder. They finished the regular season with the best record in the league. They had 68 wins, which is one of the best regular seasons of all time. It was only five wins less than the warriors historic 73 win season from back in the 201516 season. They are the youngest team in the league. Or coming into the season, they were the youngest team in the league. So they've got these guys. Their core group is really young, they're really fun. Hopefully we can see them grow together over the next five, 10 years. But they're going to be a really interesting story because one of the aspects of a really successful postseason team is experience. And obviously OKC don't have that. So how much is their innate skill and chemistry? How far is that going to take him in a loaded Western Conference? So they're going to provide a lot of really, really good basketball because they have fantastic basketball players. But are they going to choke on the biggest stage or are they going to just, you know, come up short on the biggest stage considering they're so young? That's going to be fascinating to watch.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Sometimes youth is a pro and sometimes it's a con.
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Brady
Exactly. And even if they don't win this year, if they get that experience in their young group, then next year they can come back looking even better. If they can manage to keep that core together.
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Katie Nolan
That's right.
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Brady
They have a playoff run in their back pockets and then they can see what they can do from there.
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Katie Nolan
That core, which of course includes Shane Gillis, Alexander.
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Brady
Someone actually emailed us a photo. I got to show you this later. A photo of the two superimposed on each other.
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Katie Nolan
I've seen it. I hate it. I never want to see it again. I've come across.
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Brady
I will not show you that.
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Katie Nolan
Not into it.
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Brady
I'll delete it.
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Katie Nolan
Say here, not into it. Okay.
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Brady
What else can the Celtics become the first back to back NBA champion since the warriors in the 201718 season. This one is close to you and I's.
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Katie Nolan
Can we talk about how funny the phrasing of that is the first to do it since like a couple years ago. Yeah, 2017 is further away than I like to admit. To me it's like three years ago and clearly that's not the case. It's like eight years ago. But it's very funny. The first to do it in eight years. But yes, close to our heart. Because you're a Celtics fan.
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Brady
I'm a Celtics fan.
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Katie Nolan
I forget this because.
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Brady
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Why would you?
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Brady
We don't talk about basketball much.
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Katie Nolan
How did you become that good Isabella?
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Brady
My dad.
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Isabella
Weren't you working in New York For a little bit. No, hold on. Why didn't you become a Knicks fan?
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Brady
I've been a Celtics fan since I was a kid because my dad's been a Celtics fan since the 80s.
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Isabella
I hear that I'm not supposed to like you. That's why.
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Brady
Oh, we can still be friends.
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Isabella
You seem pretty nice. I just met Chris today.
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Katie Nolan
By the way, this is a new Isabella. We actually swapped out our Isabella.
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Isabella
I'm AI.
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Brady
We should have said that.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, sorry. We should have just closed up. Top that. This is chat. Isabella.
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Chris
I think everyone's. I think everyone's dad was a Celtics fan in the 80s. I know my dad was a Larry Bird fan, and there's probably like a. Probably like a very lazy racial component.
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Katie Nolan
To it, but my dad is definitely love Larry Bird.
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Brady
But you know, the funny thing about my dad's association with Larry Bird and the Celtics, he was watching a series against the 76ers, and he loved both the 76ers and the Celtics. When he was watching the series, the Celtics kept coming from behind and winning. So he thought they were the underdogs. So he started rooting for the Celtics because they were the underdogs. But he loved Dr. J just as much as he loved Larry Bird. But he just was, you know.
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Katie Nolan
No, sure.
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Chris
Of course.
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Brady
Gravitated towards the upstart young Celtics team.
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Katie Nolan
Right. It was your dad who was racist, Brady. All right, so the Celtics trying to do back to back. Can they do it? Yeah.
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Brady
Oh, yeah. I think they probably have the best chance to. They.
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Isabella
I don't think they can.
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Katie Nolan
No. Isabella says no. So we should.
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Isabella
I don't know. I just. Yeah. Something about it. I don't know who's the starting lineup, but, you know, I just don't think they vibe well, you know?
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
So they're probably gonna lose, guys.
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Katie Nolan
Hey, that's. That is an opinion, and it's her right to voice it.
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Isabella
Yeah. Sorry.
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Brady
But you're wrong, Isabella. The opinion is wrong. They have the best shot, I think, to win. They have the experience. They've kept the. The same core together since the championship team last season. They have got arguably the most amount of talent out of any team with, you know, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Kristaps Porzingis being the one, two, three punch. A historic three point shooting team. They've. They hit the most amount of three pointers this season out of any team in the history of the NBA. So they know how to score really well. They're very good defensively. They have a psychotic coach. We've Spoken about him on the show before. Joe Mazzulla. I don't know if you watched Game one.
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Katie Nolan
I did.
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Brady
Jason Tatum went down with a wrist injury and a trainer was going to come up from the Celtics bench to walk over and help Jason Tatum. Joe Missoula holds the trainer back and then yells at Tatum saying, get the fuck up.
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Katie Nolan
Get the up. Get up. I did not see get the fuck up. Maybe it was get up. Get up. Which Isabella was. You don't normally see that. Usually it's.
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Brady
Especially when it's your star player.
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Isabella
It's concerned to be.
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Katie Nolan
He was basically like, get up. We gotta keep going. Like it's, you're fine. Get up. I saw it compared to like a, like fighters. Like the way somebody would say to a fighter when he goes down, like, get up. Like it's, we gotta keep going. But it was. He's so weird.
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Chris
I hear that as like a dad and a kid who walks all the way into Disney World and is suddenly too tired to continue walking. Get up.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, you will continue.
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Brady
And then along with that, we'll also get more opportunities to hear from Jayson Tatum's mum, who after that very same incident, after the game, asked her son if she, if she should go in the Orlando Magic locker room and have. Have some words with the Orlando players.
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Katie Nolan
Brady, what did you think she meant? What the hell. Did anyone catch Brady going, I didn't.
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Brady
But I don't want to know.
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Katie Nolan
Oy vey. Yeah, go Celtics, obviously. What else? What else are we looking forward to?
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Brady
The lakers? Can a 40 year old LeBron James, the oldest player in the league, and Luka Doncic win the west and then potentially set up a. I'd love to see like a Lakers Celtics final. We'll see if that happens. But that LeBron James, Luka Doncic duo being able to see what they can do in the postseason is. Will be incredible. They're the 3 seed in the West. They only won two more games than the Grizzlies who had to go through the play in. But they're going to be a dynamic duo to watch. They're going to be probably the most exciting duo out of anyone in the in the playoffs this season. So keep an eye on them for sure.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, they lost game one.
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Brady
Maybe they don't make it out of the first round, but I think they'll be okay.
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Isabella
Has Bronnie been playing? Will he play in the playoffs at all?
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Brady
Most likely not. The, the good thing about the playoffs is that you reduce the amount of players that play you probably only stick to the same seven players rather than in the regular season where you're, you know, playing nine, 10 players, because you're really. You just want to stick with the guys that, you know are gonna deliver.
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Isabella
So you're saying that Ronnie's not gonna deliver?
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Brady
He's probably not in the. The top seven in that rotation.
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Katie Nolan
I wouldn't know if he's in the top anything.
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Brady
Yeah, yeah.
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Isabella
He's still training.
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Katie Nolan
He's getting there. You know he is, but he's right. He's. If it's an X man up situation, if anything were to happen, if they.
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Brady
Get a lot of injuries. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Katie Nolan
If there's a single at the. In the player parking lot, Bronny's ready.
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Chris
It's like the Secretary of Transportation becoming president. There are a lot of things that have to happen here to get Bronnie.
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Katie Nolan
On court, and most of them very tragic and sad. Which we'd be more distracted by this.
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Brady
Yes. Let's hope it doesn't happen.
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Katie Nolan
Right? Of course, we're all looking forward to seeing LeBron and Luka Doncic go deep into the. When's Game 2 for them? Probably tonight or it already happened. Have they had two games?
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Brady
Let me look this up in real time. Today, 10pm Eastern.
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Katie Nolan
They lost 117 to 95 in the first game.
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Brady
Yeah. They're playing the Timberwolves and Edwards and the Timberwolves.
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Katie Nolan
That's right. And he looks mature. Like, at least he seems like he's more mature. I don't know. I feel like that. Yeah. I feel like the discussion around Edwards in the postseason before has been that he's like, you know, a lot and he needs. It's. But he seemed like lots of.
- [24:12]
Brady
He's had that experience. Now he knows what you need to bring to a playoffs atmosphere could be a problem.
- [24:18]
Katie Nolan
Just saying. I'm also. I feel bad for Minnesota fans because I feel like they're like everyone's looking past us and we're right here and we won. So shout out to Minnesota fans. I'm here for you.
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Isabella
What was the game that just happened where, like, someone won by, like, 50 points?
- [24:34]
Katie Nolan
Was that Memphis OKC?
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Chris
Yeah. 51 pointer.
- [24:38]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. It's the one win in NBA history. Not good. Not great. What else can we look forward to?
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Brady
Chris, we're just coming off March Madness where we were talking about how much we love Cinderella runs. Right. When a 16 seed can be to one seed or if, you know, 15 seed makes a run to the elite eight or something like that, we like the underdogs coming through and having some sort of success can sort of say the same thing with the NBA. Now that they've implemented the play in tournament, can we see a run from any of those four teams that are coming from that playing tournament? You've got the Magic, the Heat, the Grizzlies, and the Warri, the Warrior. Let's see. Maybe the Warrior is probably the one, the best bet. I think most people have most confidence in because they have Steph. And Jimmy Butler's been playing really well for him as well. The other three, probably not so much. But it'd be fascinating to. To see like a legit Cinderella run in the NBA postseason.
- [25:35]
Katie Nolan
I saw a lot of people saying, and I don't know if they're right, but they did say that, like, the Rockets will challenge the warriors but won't likely win. That series seems to be the what most people.
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Brady
Because again, Rockets are young. They don't have a lot of experience, fun. They play out of their minds. What do they finish the second seed in the. In the West. But it's such a different game once you come to the postseason. It's a lot more physical. Everyone's playing, you know, at 100%, you're not getting any players resting or on time restriction or anything like that. So it really is that different ball game. And if you're not used to playing that. That brand of basketball, it can really feel like a punch in the mouth when you experience that for the first.
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Katie Nolan
Time and then your last thing, I.
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Brady
Sort of touched on it there. But if a player is healthy, they'll. They'll play. There's no resting. I think a lot of issues that casual fans have with NBA these days is the amount of resting that goes on with star players. If they're healthy, sometimes they just need, you know, a break because they've been playing, you know, two games in three days or whatever it is. Players are trying to get their body in optimum shape for the post season. So it gets very frustrating if you're a fan who goes to their first NBA game to watch Player X and then they are actually sitting out because, you know, they just needed a break. It's been a tough couple of weeks. Their body's not 100, so they need to sit out. If. If a player is not even 100. If a player is like, at 80, 90, they are going to play because they want to make sure that they are giving their team the best opportunity to win.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's what they rest for.
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Brady
Yeah. Like Jaylen Brown, for instance. Jaylen Brown's carrying a bit of a knee issue, but because it's the postseason, he is playing. He's going to give himself the best opportunity to play as many minutes to be there for his team as he can. So that's the best thing. From a casual perspective, you will see the best teams play their best players as long as their best players are able to, you know, literally walk. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then like, just to throw in there real quick as well. It's just like, it's a lot more physical. It's faster paced. It's all that sort of stuff. The refs swallow their whistle a little bit more than they do in the regular season. So all of that just makes for a better quality of basketball as well.
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Katie Nolan
Isabella, how are you feeling about the first round matchup for your Knicks?
- [27:52]
Isabella
Oh, I've been watching each game so far. The first one was amazing. The one last night, Disappointing.
- [27:57]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it's my.
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Isabella
They were behind like 10 plus points the entire game, and then they caught up in like the last like four minutes or whatever. Timothy Chalamet learned that he's a Knicks fan. Love that.
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Katie Nolan
Love that. You guys should be best friends. We should book it. I know. He knows ball.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
This is an exciting series. I like this series. I feel like the vibes are interesting in it because, you know, last year the Knicks were that like, out, muscle out, hustle, and I feel like that's the Pistons this year. So this is like an interesting watching them. I like it.
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Isabella
Yeah. But go Nicks. Go Jalen Brunson. Go Tom Thibodeau. Go msg. You know, go Josh Hart.
- [28:41]
Katie Nolan
Not the seasoning, the venue.
- [28:45]
Isabella
Yeah, actually go to msg the seasoning.
- [28:47]
Katie Nolan
Go msg the seasoning as well. It's delicious.
- [28:49]
Isabella
Mm.
- [28:50]
Katie Nolan
What does it taste like? Delicious.
- [28:52]
Isabella
Yeah.
- [28:53]
Katie Nolan
The sound that Chris is readying is basketball related, but not post season related because the Dallas Mavericks lost in a play in game, so they aren't still here with us. And since the season ended, Nico Harrison, the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks, much maligned this season because of that Luca trade, held an end of season press conference on Monday afternoon. There was one quote in it that really stood out. Chris, you got it queued up?
- [29:22]
Brady
Yep.
- [29:23]
Katie Nolan
Let's take a listen. When you were kicking the idea of.
- [29:26]
Brady
This trade around and you had various scenarios planned in your head, did the anger and outrage from the fan base, has that exceeded what you were kind of planning for? Yeah, good question.
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Chris
I did know that Luca was important to the.
- [29:44]
Brady
To the Fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level.
- [29:50]
Katie Nolan
How is that possible?
- [29:54]
Brady
Insane.
- [29:55]
Katie Nolan
How is that possible? I know that as a fan I overestimate my importance to the team and to the game. I just know that's the way that it is, that it's. Everybody at every turn will remind me it's a business and they're trying to yada yada and make money and yada yada, yada, yada, yada. But I don't think you can fully rule out the importance of the fan, as that is ultimately your customer. And I don't think it's good business to completely ignore your customer. And you would have to completely ignore them to not know how much Luca meant to them. It wasn't like a tertiary part of their fandom. He was like the guy they were so excited to have. How could you possibly. I can't tell if he's like so full of shit that he's lying that he didn't know. How is it possible? How is it possible?
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Brady
Especially because we're not talking about a cult player here. We're talking about arguably the second greatest Dallas Mavericks player in franchise history after Dirk. Dirk Nowitzki, probably. To not realize how much he means to that support base means you just don't have your finger on the pulse whatsoever. And for a general manager to be that removed from how the fans feel is an indictment on him as a general manager, it's insane to me.
- [31:31]
Katie Nolan
If you're a Mavericks fan and you hear that, does it make you more mad?
- [31:35]
Brady
I think probably because then you're thinking, well, you know, this team isn't listening to us. We were there, we've been supporting them, we've put our hard earned money and time supporting this team. And they for some reason didn't even think of us when making this trade. Firstly, from a basketball perspective, it was bad enough as it was. Right. Like that is still probably the worst part of the trade is that you didn't get anywhere near enough bad back from that trade. Yeah, exactly. You got Anthony Davis and a couple of other pieces for a generational superstar, an aging and an injury prone Anthony.
- [32:13]
Katie Nolan
Like, even on paper, if you're not paying attention to your fan base on paper, that's a guy a fan base would be excited about. Like even like a stereotypical fan base. You put a player like Luka, if you understand what type of player and his age and all that he means to basketball, in front of any fan base and they're going to like him. So it's like, how could you possibly not know? That's like, being like, I didn't know people liked LeBron like that. What do you mean? Like, it's. How is that possible? It's. It doesn't. This guy sucks. I don't know this guy. This is brutal.
- [32:48]
Chris
That also makes it sound like he just got there.
- [32:50]
Katie Nolan
I know.
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Brady
Yeah.
- [32:51]
Chris
Like, it's something. This is four years on that job. He saw Luca.
- [32:56]
Katie Nolan
What? Level is crazy.
- [33:00]
Chris
But you know what he did before he was the general manager?
- [33:03]
Katie Nolan
Oh, I don't have Ricks. I don't, but I bet it was. Was he good at it?
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Chris
So he was appointed to be the general manager of The Mavericks in 2021 for 19 years. Before that, he was Nike's VP of basketball.
- [33:17]
Katie Nolan
Did know that. Actually did know that.
- [33:19]
Chris
So not running basketball teams.
- [33:21]
Katie Nolan
Was he on, like, the product side?
- [33:23]
Chris
He was selling sneakers. Yeah. Yeah.
- [33:26]
Katie Nolan
Well, yeah, Good sneakers. How do you not know? Especially if you come from a brand like you. It's. I don't know. That's crazy to me. This guy is. I. I envy the. The lack of awareness. I would love to walk through, stumble through life as completely unaware of everything around me as this and then go like, wow, guess I really underestimated that. Like, what do you mean? I would be like, please don't fire me. I'm so, so, so, sor. I screw up.
- [33:59]
Isabella
Maybe he's not a basketball fan.
- [34:01]
Katie Nolan
Maybe. Maybe he's not. Weird job to be in if you're not at least remotely into the sport. But you're right. It's entirely.
- [34:08]
Isabella
Maybe he's just a really, really casual fan. Maybe.
- [34:11]
Katie Nolan
Maybe he listens to this podcast. Sorry I said you suck, but you kind of suck. Like, I don't know. Can we talk about it? Come sit in this other purple chair and we'll talk about it. Look, I have to admit, I've been watching too much baseball for the post season of hockey and basketball. I know that. I know that. It's weird that I'm getting jazzed up about baseball when we have a long, long season ahead of us and two major sports in the US Are peaking. I know it's weird, but I love baseball. And I'm Red Sox fan. Katie is back in a big way, and it's already been a struggle. I've already had to keep reminding myself. And I'll remind you, casual fans, if you're also paying attention to baseball, it is a marathon, not a sprint. It is a. You have to. It's the highs and the lows. You can't care that your team keeps losing to the Chicago White Sox because it's early. Right. And you have to get through it.
- [35:06]
Isabella
So wait really quickly. You just play like the same team and for how long?
- [35:10]
Katie Nolan
So there's. It's a baseball season is a series of series. So it's like you'll play like a three game series against the White Sox and then you'll play like a three game series against Twins and a four game series against. And so it's like every.
- [35:24]
Isabella
Do you like add all the wins of those different teams you played or is it like say if they. If the Red Sox lose every single game to the White Sox, then they don't move on and they're like out?
- [35:32]
Katie Nolan
No, they're in. Still. It's so early in the season that everyone's in. You're just trying to get as many wins as possible and. And they're not doing a fantastic job of. Of that. My Red Sox, you know, but they will. Maybe they'll start clicking at the right time. Um, the reason I bring up baseball. I want to talk about what happened with this Max Freed no hitter. And Isabella, I am going to put you in like a. Maybe a bit of a tough spot. I would like to describe to you what happened and then get your opinion on it because I think once you.
- [36:04]
Isabella
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
Which it's totally fair that you wouldn't. I'm interested to know your perspective on.
- [36:09]
Isabella
Be prepared for me to ask a bunch of questions.
- [36:11]
Katie Nolan
And I'm ready. And Brady, be ready too, in case they're numbers questions or things I don't know. Okay, so Max Freed is a pitcher on the Yankees, which already I'm upset because that should not have been the case. He's. That's not the team he should have ended up with. But alas, it was. He was throwing a no hitter.
- [36:29]
Isabella
And what is that?
- [36:30]
Katie Nolan
So that means essentially that nobody has hit the ball. He's thrown it. And they've either, you know, caught every hit or they've, you know, gotten them out at first base.
- [36:42]
Isabella
Oh, after the person at bat already hit it?
- [36:44]
Katie Nolan
Well, no, in general, nobody in the entire game on the other team has hit at all.
- [36:49]
Isabella
Okay.
- [36:50]
Brady
Has. Has had a successful hit. So they might have made contact with the ball with their bat, but if someone catches it, that is not classified as a hit.
- [36:58]
Katie Nolan
It's an owl.
- [36:59]
Brady
Technically it's an owl. Hit the ball with the pitch.
- [37:01]
Isabella
Why is it on him, though? Who?
- [37:03]
Katie Nolan
The pitcher?
- [37:04]
Isabella
Yeah.
- [37:04]
Katie Nolan
No, this is a good thing. A no hitter is a good thing. You have Kept that team from getting anybody on base. Now, the exceptions to this, you can have baserunners during a no hitter. If you walk somebody, a walk does not count as a hit. So it's still a bad thing. He got a base runner, right? But it's not a hit or an error, which. That is a batter hits a ball to a fielder, right? The fielder bobbles it or makes a mistake and the runner reaches first base. And they rule that an error because it's not really the hitter's success, it's the failure of the fielder. So that does not count as a hit. It's more like this guy screwed up. It wouldn't have been a hit if this guy didn't make a huge bumbling mistake.
- [37:55]
Isabella
Wait, but if he dropped the ball or something, that should. The person who hit the ball and runs the first base, that should be their success, right?
- [38:02]
Katie Nolan
And they get to stay on the base, and they can essentially score a run, but they do not get credited with a hit if it's an error. It's just one of the things about baseball, scoring. So you're really not gonna like this. You are really, really not gonna like this.
- [38:15]
Isabella
It's just like, it's already so complicated. I'm like, guys, let's simplify, okay?
- [38:18]
Katie Nolan
Okay, we're gonna simplify right here. And if any. If you. If you need refreshing on any of it, this is the actual story. So heading into. There's nine innings in a baseball game. Okay.
- [38:26]
Isabella
Too long.
- [38:27]
Katie Nolan
We're going. No. What? We're not. We don't have time for that.
- [38:30]
Isabella
I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We don't have time for that.
- [38:32]
Katie Nolan
Heading into the eighth inning, Max Freed had a no hitter, which is a. Just like, as an aside, it's kind of like a superstition. You don't talk about it. You just kind of go look at how many hits there are as we go in his next inning. Because everybody's like, oh, my God, he could do it. It's like a real achievement to get a no hitter. So he's in the penultimate inning. He's in the 8 inn inning, still has a no hitter.
- [38:58]
Isabella
Okay?
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Katie Nolan
Before he throws the first pitch of the eighth inning, there is a stat correction. The official scorer of the game decides that a play that happened in the sixth inning, which was credited as an error.
- [39:15]
Isabella
That's like 30 minutes ago in baseball world, right? Like, isn't that like so long ago?
- [39:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
Okay, go ahead.
- [39:22]
Katie Nolan
I don't have the exact minutes, but that feels right. Maybe a Little longer. I don't know. It was ruled an error, but they're changing it to a hit. They said that Chandler Simpson, the infield single that he had had hit would have beaten out any potential throw. Now Chandler Simpson is one of the fastest guys in the league, and so he would beat out almost any throw. It feels like. I think what happened is they, they review it, they, they, they consider it, and then they make a final call. But this took away Max Freed's no hitter. So normally in a no hitter, someone will like, you'll. You'll hear the crack of the bat and you'll go, oh, no. And then like the right fielder won't get there and you'll go, okay, the no hitter is blown. But at least it was blown. Like we were all present for it. And it happened this. Max Freed thought he had a no hitter for like two innings longer than he did. And retroactively they just took away.
- [40:18]
Isabella
And you're allowed to do that?
- [40:20]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [40:22]
Isabella
I have some questions. How many scorers are there? Because why is he not paying attention to the current innings?
- [40:28]
Katie Nolan
Okay, so Brady, this is where I.
- [40:29]
Isabella
How is he able to pay attention to a hit or whatever in the six?
- [40:32]
Katie Nolan
Thank you. Good job, Chris. Not usually the ally on this podcast. Brady, where the fuck were you? He or she, the. So I think there's gotta be a committee to appeal to, but I don't know, is there somebody like the way that they've got like a command center for reviews, for replays. Is there somebody he can. What's funny is I bet that the commissioner of the league was asleep for this game. I don't even think he was.
- [41:03]
Isabella
That sounds like. So then that means what, are they examining every single hit?
- [41:07]
Katie Nolan
No, no, no, no. Forget what I just said because I don't even know if that's true. That's what I would think be the case is that in between innings he was maybe just reviewing the foot and just kept thinking and ruminating on if this was a. Was an error or not. And he came to. To the decision that it was mistakenly ruled an error and it should have been a hit. I think there should be a limit on the amount of innings before you can do that. Like it should be like you have to decide by the next.
- [41:34]
Isabella
Yeah. Once you move on to the innings statute of limitations.
- [41:37]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [41:37]
Isabella
Yeah.
- [41:37]
Katie Nolan
Once the number changes from like the seventh inning to the eighth inning, you should have to. Everything locks in the official score.
- [41:43]
Chris
Just reviewed that one on his own that he went back and looked at.
- [41:46]
Katie Nolan
It for three, two, Innings pretty much just kept looking at it, I guess.
- [41:52]
Chris
Because it is tough to make that decision in real time. Then you can sit on it. But, yeah, three innings is a long time. This is one person kind of making every scoring decision for this whole game. There's a lot going on on their plate, so I can imagine. Go back to it.
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Brady
It.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, they also. Yeah, they have to do the whole thing. They're the official scorer. They're the official record. It's a lot of work for one man or woman or any person, truly. This might make things better, Isabella. That first batter, Jake Magnum, hit anyway. He got a hit, so the. It was about to have been ruined anyway. It's not like he made it the whole game. And then we found out that one of the hits. So he would have blown a no hitter anyway.
- [42:39]
Isabella
Did they announce this, the correction during the game?
- [42:41]
Katie Nolan
So they announced it. The. The. I think the guy who does the scorekeeping announced it himself. And then this is kind of what I. And I. The less I say about the New York Yankees booth, the better, because I've been taught, if you don't have anything nice to say, try not to say anything. And I do not have anything nice to say. But they ripped the scorer apart, and then they showed his face on the broadcast and they named him. They told everybody the official scorer's name and his face on their broadcast. How do you feel about that, Isabella?
- [43:20]
Isabella
I don't like that. Like, that's just too much, in my opinion.
- [43:23]
Katie Nolan
Some people say accountability, but put your name and your face on the decision that you made.
- [43:29]
Isabella
I mean, maybe if it's during the game, like, are they. Are they out there or are they kind of like.
- [43:34]
Katie Nolan
No, they're like in the back of the.
- [43:35]
Isabella
Yeah, I don't. I think that's kind of unnecessary if they're out there. Like how?
- [43:38]
Katie Nolan
Like.
- [43:39]
Isabella
Like, you know, in basketball, you can see the people who are, like, just deliberating and stuff on certain calls and stuff. Obviously the camera's gonna be on them. But to, like, be like, let me look up his profile picture and his government name and put it on his screen.
- [43:51]
Katie Nolan
Well, they zoomed. They, like, found him and zoomed way in to show him to everybody. And then. And then, yeah, said his name and were very mean to him.
- [44:01]
Isabella
I don't like that.
- [44:03]
Chris
I don't like it. Does how much the official score gets paid go into how much accountability they.
- [44:08]
Katie Nolan
Do, you know, for this?
- [44:09]
Chris
It's like 150, 170 bucks a game.
- [44:13]
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God.
- [44:14]
Brady
Really?
- [44:14]
Chris
Yeah.
- [44:15]
Katie Nolan
Are you sure?
- [44:16]
Chris
Yeah.
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Isabella
How many games are there?
- [44:18]
Katie Nolan
A lot. But 170 bucks a game is not. That's like.
- [44:21]
Isabella
That sounds pretty.
- [44:22]
Katie Nolan
That was like working a bar mitzvah. That's what I used to get per bar mitzvah. That I would. It's like 60 bucks an hour dance at.
- [44:28]
Isabella
Yeah, I was gonna say. Can I do the math on the hourly.
- [44:30]
Katie Nolan
Well, the hourly rate went up since they made the game shorter. I guess technically.
- [44:35]
Isabella
Listen, he's just doing his job. I don't love that he made this apparent and I don't love that you're allowed to just decide this after, what was it, two or three innings? I don't think that should be allowed.
- [44:46]
Katie Nolan
But.
- [44:47]
Isabella
But to go to the extent of like, basically. What's the word? Like, doxxing him at the game is like a little too much.
- [44:55]
Katie Nolan
And that is how easy it is to come to the correct opinion in sports.
- [45:00]
Isabella
Okay. I was so glad. I was like, why are you keep asking these questions? Is this the wrong opinion?
- [45:03]
Katie Nolan
No, it's 100% the right opinion. To me. I mean, to me, obviously, opinions are opinions, but as Chris mentioned, some can be wrong and this one is correct. Success. Great, Chris. I had put in here before it happened that Liam Hendricks was returning to the Red Sox. For those who don't know Liam Hendricks, a pitcher, he is Australian, so that's the Chris connection. He was diagnosed with stage four non Hodgkin's lymphoma in December of 2020. Then he returned to the mound in 2023, made five appearances, and then went on the injured list because he had elbow inflammation. And then he had to have Tommy John surgery, which Isabella is like a famous surgery for pitchers where they have to. They're just gone for the year and then hopefully they come back from it. Most many of them have had it, so. He made his first appearance on Sunday against the White Sox. He hadn't played in 681 days. It was huge. It was a big deal. And I put this in here for you and it was. It was not good. Which. This is just the highs and lows of it, as I'm like, yes, triumphant moment. And then it took like he. I think he pitched one and it took not long for me to go. And then let's get him off the mound and then let's. Let's go ahead and send him back just for he could come back out, try again. Different day. Because this changed the course of the. It was not a good outing and he now has an era of 18. That's not 1.8. That is 18. But I but he's back and I think the human interest piece is the most important part. Who cares about an early season Red Sox game against the absolutely garbage White Sox? He's back and that's great news.
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Chris
I don't believe a word. I don't believe that you believe a word of what you said. I of course I believe it.
- [46:52]
Katie Nolan
It's great news.
- [46:53]
Chris
Who cares? Red Sox fans won't be mad.
- [46:56]
Katie Nolan
I would be very nervous my first game back after that long after my body is completely different in two really big ways. I would be very nervous. So I if it's but if it's continues, I can retract the statement. I look forward to his second appearance. How's that? Is that fair? Someone say yes.
- [47:19]
Chris
He was still throwing hard. Still throwing like 95, 96. Like so it's there.
- [47:24]
Katie Nolan
There are wins. We can finally little wins if we zoom in. Just don't zoom out because that was not good.
- [47:29]
Chris
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Katie Nolan
Nolan and I'm excited to tell you about a show from my friends Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe. It's called A Touch More. What started as a talk show on Instagram to connect with friends and discuss the issues they care about has now turned into a full podcast every episode. Sue and Megan Again, my friends deep dive into what's happening on and off the basketball court and soccer field. From the week's biggest games to the latest player moves, they break down how women's sports intersects with with everything. Pop culture, politics, fashion, you name it, and how it's all connected. Plus, you never know who's going to join them on the show to share some very hot takes to get insight into the world of sports and beyond. Follow A Touch More wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube. New episodes drop every Thursday. What else? WrestleMania Brady. You were there.
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Chris
I was there for a long time. They're not even done. They still have one final show in Vegas tonight.
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Katie Nolan
Tuesday night. Tuesday night.
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Chris
Tuesday night.
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Isabella
Tuesday night.
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Katie Nolan
Medium rare. What do they call Tuesday Night.
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Chris
It's nxt. It's like the lower level developmental, which.
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Katie Nolan
Is where that one guy came from. Right? Is he the. No, no.
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Chris
Joe Hendry.
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Katie Nolan
Trying my best.
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Chris
So Joe Hendry came from TNA Wrestling.
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Katie Nolan
Which is like a completely different ass Wrestling. Yes, yeah.
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Chris
Yes, it is. That's a completely different company that they have, like a working relationship with. He's their heavyweight champion.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, he was fun. That was a fun moment with Randy Orton in the arcade.
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Chris
Wonderful Scottish guy. We hung out for a little bit yesterday.
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Katie Nolan
Does he have an accent?
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Chris
Oh, yeah.
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Katie Nolan
That's fun.
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Chris
Yeah, he was in. He was on Busted Open yesterday in the studios.
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Katie Nolan
The name of that show. I know, but the name of that show. I don't know why I bristle against it every time. Busted Open. All right.
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Chris
It's a wrestling term. Common is a wrestling term of like, you know, you get hit in the face and you're bleeding and you're like, back out. He's busted open. I can understand to the outsider, that.
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Katie Nolan
Was him trying to do what's his face be?
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Chris
Jim Ross, by God.
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Katie Nolan
But it was bad.
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Chris
He's broken him in half.
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Katie Nolan
It was a long bad.
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Brady
It's Foghole and Link hold.
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Katie Nolan
Here's where he's losing you pretty much.
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Isabella
Me. It sounded great because I don't know who that is.
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Katie Nolan
Perfect. And that's Isabelle. That's why you're the glue guy. That's why you're around. So you keep us a family.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
I just wanted to say, my only point about WrestleMania is I noticed they're sending it over to Paris for something. They're doing, like, wrestle. They're doing WWE in Paris?
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Chris
Yeah. So they. It's. They'll have. They've been doing a couple of pay per views. It was like Clash at the Castle. It was like in Scotland, like. And they. They'll move that one around. I think the last one was in Germany. Now it's like Clash in Paris. So the name no longer makes sense.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's not it. But I just thought, what a perfect inverse of Cirque du Soleil. That feels like we're sending over our Cirque du Soleil. The wwe, which is just like the most American. It's an American circus. And they send us their little French with the acrobats in the. In the. And the gymnasts, and we send them our beautiful art, which is wrasslin.
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Chris
I think that's a fair swap.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I think so, too.
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Chris
What was the review of the show in the Nolan household?
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Katie Nolan
Well, so Dan watched most of it in his. Off. In the. In his game room. He's got his room and I have mine. We. I was. What was I watching when it was on? I don't remember. Two nights is a lot, but it's better than one night long. You know what I mean? Like, it's whatever. The highlight for me was that women's match. I don't know if it was. Was that like a tag. It wasn't a tag team, but it was three.
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Chris
It was a three way. It was iyo, Sky Rhea, Ripley, Bianca Belair on Sunday night.
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Katie Nolan
Eos Sky's. She won her. The end of that match was great. So if you look up One thing from WrestleMania, I would say look that up. I think Dan enjoyed it. I forgot to get his full review on it. I'm a bad journalist because I'm not a journalist. It was fine. At one point, Dan goes, oh, the Rock's coming out. And he does this a lot where he'll say something confidently and then it happens because he's watched so much wrestling in his life. And so I got a little too, like, oh, cool, the Rock's coming out. And then he didn't. And then Travis Scott came out. And I don't. I'm not a Travis Scott fan myself. And so I. That was. I didn't like any of that. I feel like that was like, okay.
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Chris
I think the biggest. He didn't perform in. He was. Is so the theme song to WrestleMania was his theme.
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Katie Nolan
That's been the theme song to, like, a number of WrestleMania events, you know.
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Chris
No, that's. That's like an accurate depiction of that.
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Katie Nolan
You know that song. Everybody knows that song. Fiend.
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Chris
I hear.
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Isabella
I hear the don't know that song do.
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Chris
When they play it, I just hear.
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Katie Nolan
Beaker going, you both do.
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Chris
Meep.
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Isabella
I just know. Is this also in wrestling and not boxing?
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Brady
Careful, we're gonna cut that literally.
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Chris
Hold on, Chris. Chris has to bleep that because Michael Buffer is the most litigious person in the world. And we'll sue anyone who says, good job. Those words on a podcast.
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Isabella
Are you ready to podcast?
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Katie Nolan
Dan and I remixed Fiend. And we just yell at Myrtle and we go, bean, bean, bean. And it's pretty funny in our house. So anyway, you were saying Travis Scott comes in.
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Chris
He did a lot. He did a very slow saunter to the ring in the middle of the main event, which was John Cena, who had recently turned villain against Cody Rhodes, who was the champion. And Travis Scott just slowly walks to the ring and we have to wait for him to get there. But that seemed like everyone was ready waiting for the Rock to show up after. But then there was, there was John Cena hitting Cody Rhodes with the belt. And it just kind of ended with John Cena as your new champion. It's. He's retiring this year. He's 17 time champion now. Which is the most effortless. We were like, where's the Rock? We're just waiting for him to show up.
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Katie Nolan
He didn't show up.
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Chris
So it kind of felt like what's the next thing? And then the show was suddenly over and be like, shit, we've been here for four hours and didn't realize the show was ending.
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Katie Nolan
I know, I don't know. I like I was rooting for Cena obviously. I know he's supposed to be the bad guy, but it's John Cena. He as a lady who has previously disclosed she's not into needles and like vein stuff. It's very vascular. John Cena, he had like Jeremy Baramy on his arm. It was a whole squiggly. I could not it difficult to make eye contact with for me, but it was good. I also always forget when I watch WrestleMania that it's like Disney Channel in the sense that you're in a closed loop. There's commercials, but those commercials are always for the product that you're already watching. It's like they don't like let you back out into the world where you have to experience commercials.
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Chris
Well, they do the commercials but they were, they're dropped into the matches now.
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Katie Nolan
They're all like the main event.
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Chris
Well, no, we got to the main event. It was like John Cena, Cody Rhodes presented by Drumstick ice cream cones.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Chris
The world's number one chocolate dipped cone.
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Katie Nolan
This I don't watch a lot of ufc, which is the only other place I could imagine this may be happening. So correct me if this happens there, but this is the first time I watched a sporting event and sports and entertainment, but whatever. That puts an extra ad where you would see like a baseball score bug in the top left of your screen. I was like, that's get that out of here. And it wasn't permanent. It didn't stay the whole time. But on screen they're filling it with like a little bug for an ad. Sometimes it was Verizon and sometimes it was Drumstick or whatever. See, get that out of here.
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Chris
I didn't see that cuz I was in the building. But soccer does that. Soccer does that because they don't they don't have room for commercials. They have to put ads somewhere. But, like, the game doesn't stop, so they have to put the ad on the screen.
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Katie Nolan
I don't like, but.
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Chris
So, yeah, Drumstick sponsoring the match. And they were on, like, the walls around the ring. And then you had nine different ads on the mat in the ring. Now, that's new. Like, Monster energy drink, and, like, eight other sponsors, like prime, the big prime bottle in the middle. There's. They're running out of ways to cram ads into that broadcast. I don't put on the screen, put on the ring, put on the walls. Soon you get. I don't know. Do you tattoo ads onto John Cena? I don't know where else they. They fit in there, but it's impressive, the density.
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Katie Nolan
Please don't. His veins. He can't handle it.
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Chris
So that's what the bald spot was on full display. The bald spot, yeah.
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Katie Nolan
But people were. It's just like, leave the guy alone. It's harder to do that replacement, that hair stuff on the crown of your head. They can do it on the front. What's the front of your head called? That's easier.
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Chris
The. But I mean, at some point, it's.
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Katie Nolan
Harder to do on your top of your head. Stop being mean to each other about losing your hair. You know, just cut it short, John. Well, let him live his life. I think you look great, John. I think most people that are talking shit to you in real life wouldn't be tall enough to see the top of your head anyway, so. Lions shouldn't concern themselves with the opinions.
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Chris
Of sheep, Massachusetts drawn together. I get it.
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Katie Nolan
He was just nice to me. That's. That's really all it takes. He was nice to me one time, and I. And I. And I hold that so dear. And I also learned that, like, they are very. Wrestling fans have, like, a really big fan base, and they're very cautious about. I had asked him a wild card question at a South by Southwest panel where I was like, all right, we got extra time, and I've run out of questions to ask you. Do you believe in aliens? And people got very nervous about it, like, that it might be offensive to. And I was like, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I just wanted to know if he believed in aliens.
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Chris
Well, does the Doctor of Thuganomics believe in aliens?
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Katie Nolan
I don't remember.
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Chris
Oh, come on.
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Katie Nolan
You buried all that.
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Chris
We got all the way there.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I don't. I have. I think. I think he. I think he pr. Answered it. I think it was something that was confusing to me. And then when I got off stage and they were like, you're lucky you're not in trouble. I was like, what are you talking about?
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Isabella
Because he is an alien. Maybe that's why he didn't want to answer.
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Katie Nolan
I should have thought of that.
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Brady
Great theory.
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Katie Nolan
It's a really good theory. All right, couple more quick things before we get to this hockey stuff. The Drake has amended his lawsuit against Universal Music Group this week to add claims that Kendrick Lamar defamed him at the super bowl halftime show. He took. Obviously, he took out the part where he says certified pedophile, but they left. In Drake, I hear you like, I'm young and trying to strike a chord, probably a minor. And in the lawsuit, it says the agreement to censor the word pedophile failed to cure the super bowl performance of conveying the recording central defamatory meaning. Instead, the super bowl performance further solidified the public's belief in the truth of allegations against Drake. And I'm just going to say this. They're not wrong. They're not wrong. But then I'll also say this. It's a rap battle, and you took it to court. You lost. That's. You can't. That's not how this works. They're not wrong. I do think, you know, I mean, I had an A minor on my. On my. On my chalkboard. Like, it was just a. It's like a. It's become part of, like, pop culture. But I will also say I felt that way about Drake back when he had. When we found out he had that weird relationship with Millie. Bobby Brown. I've been maybe thinking this, but I'm just saying they're not necessarily wrong. I think we do have to admit that that's the. They're not wrong. It's. They're just. They lose because that's. You don't file a lawsuit about a rap battle. Women's hockey. U.S. uSA beat Canada. This is always big in any sport, but especially in hockey. USA beats Canada in overtime to win the women's hockey world's title four to three. This comes after Canada, obviously beat us in the Four nations in February. So this is a big win that we can shove in their face. Also in Hockey News, the pwhl, we think question mark is expanding. I think we're pretty sure they're expanding to Vancouver. They're considering expanding to Seattle. The official announcement has not yet been made, but it appears they're going to do it for a portion of Monday, April 21. Did I get my taxes in? I think I did. Sorry. I just saw the date and went, that's. Now we're there. Shoot. I think I did. The PWHL store in the shop section of the PWHL website contained a banner that said, PWHL expands to Vancouver. Join the excitement and grab your new team gear. If you clicked it though Shop Vancouver, it. It led nowhere. A similar banner was visible for Seattle as well. So first of all, sorry to whoever's job that was. I hope you're not in that big of trouble. Who among us hasn't tried to publish something as a draft and accidentally finally published it and then had to deal with the ramifications of that? Also kind of feels like in the age of this type of news, back in the day it would just be like, whatever, three people went to the website within that period of time. Oh, they got insert information. But now it's like when people report on like this athlete liked or unfollowed, and you're like, we shouldn't. That should be like, if you see it, you have that information. We shouldn't know that. And so I don't know how long it was up on their site. I do feel bad for this person that it's being reported. But the good news is they're adding teams. Chris made a point that's probably a pretty good one, that adding one team feels more difficult than adding two teams. And so hopefully it's both. But I don't. I don't think we have confirmation. You said something about the AP confirming Vancouver, Chris? Is that what it was?
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Brady
Well, they said that an announcement will be made this week. Okay, so. So we're getting in an announcement, confident that there will be something announced within the next couple of days. But all signs are pointing because of mainly this website mishap pointing to Vancouver and Seattle as the two.
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Katie Nolan
Great. Fantastic. Which transitions us. Now we have arrived at the final segment that in the hour of doing this podcast, I've lost faith in. I was so excited about it and now I feel like maybe it's not good. So we'll do that now. Listen, as I was watching the postseasons for these two sports, I was like, we need to get people hyped on this. If there's ever a time that to get into a sport, it's during its postseason. And the hockey playoffs are awesome. One reason they're awesome, if you're a night owl, if you're a late person, game start times, some of them 11:00pm Eastern, 10:00pm Eastern, those West coast games. So if you're like me and you stay up late playing video games with your friends, you can toss a hockey game on your laptop and have action while you're doing other stuff. It's just nice because sometimes these games end and it's the end of the night and you're like, oh, I feel like I'm not going to sleep yet. But there's nothing happening. This is like meaningful hockey, exciting hockey being played at night. The other thing about hockey that rules is like this. A lot of these series are like, yeah, that one will probably go this way, at least in this first round. But anything truly can happen. And it's just high energy hockey, playoff energy. Hockey is unmatched. The energy within the arenas is great. The physicality on the ice and the intensity and the like. It always feels like something's about to go down. You get little rivalries that pop up. So basically what I wanted to do, the idea on paper was to go through each series in this first round and kind of give you what the. What you need to know to survive a water cooler conversation about hockey. Now this assumes you work somewhere cool enough that you've got a water. First of all, uncool. They're making you come to work. I think remote work should be embraced, but cool enough that enough people there watch hockey and want to talk about it while you all get water. Water's good and important, but most people just have like hydration flasks now that they carry around. So it's not as many visits to that water cooler. But just for the sake of. We've arrived at this, at this, and I have to do it now. This is just enough to be able to talk about hockey with people that are interested in hockey. Okay. It makes sense and I think it's a nice service I've done for you. Okay, so we've got St. Louis Blues playing the Winnipeg Jets. Now that's an eight and a one. The Winnipeg jets won the President's Trophy. That's who has the best record of the entire league. It's also famously Isabella cursed. The President's Trophy is cursed. They say whoever wins it can't win the cup. It took the Bruins out a couple seasons ago, famously, in a very painful way. The Blues are now. I mean, some of these are going to be pretty Bruin centric, but the Blues are now coached by the Bruins, former coach Monty Jim Montgomery. They went on a tear. The Blues, they were like having. They caught a little speed, but they've since kind of cooled off. I think most people think that this is going to go the way of the Jets. They have played two games so far in this series. The jets have won five, three, and they've won two to one. The Blues just kind of lose steam in the third period. You can say that. Say they lose steam in the third period. They can't really finish it out. That appears to be the main storyline there. I imagine the jets will move on, but like I said, anything can happen. Also, if you guys have anything you want to add in while you're Googling hockey games and. And watching me do this, I would love, like, if you just want to yell out player names, try to pronounce hockey player names. I think that'd be fun.
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Chris
But that's actually Googling where Winnipeg is in Canada. Yeah, but that's not a good enough answer for me.
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Katie Nolan
It is.
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Isabella
Hendrick.
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Katie Nolan
Lund.
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Isabella
Berquist.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, close. Not playing anyvechkin. Okay. I don't. I didn't mean you. I meant if the guys wanted to chime in with ideas. You are the. The listener at home in this. I'm talking to you. I'm trying to get you hyped. All you have to give me, baby, is emotion.
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Isabella
I can do that.
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Katie Nolan
Great. Okay, we'll move on to the next series.
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Chris
It's above North Dakota.
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Katie Nolan
It's above North Dakota.
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Brady
Oh, wait. Nathan Walker plays for the St. Louis Blues.
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Katie Nolan
If you say so.
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Brady
Nathan Walker's an Australian.
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Katie Nolan
Well, there we go, Chris.
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Brady
Still in the league. Look at that.
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Katie Nolan
Look at that.
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Brady
And I like the Blues because of Carlton Blues.
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Katie Nolan
Now, I'll tell you. Well, I guess this won't matter anymore because they've already played their two home games. But Winnipeg does this thing called a white out. This could have been confusing to a casual fan. They do a white out where the fans all wear white in the crowd. Crowd. The problem is the Blues wore white at the game and their name was Blues and the jets wore blue. And so I could see a casual fan tuning in and being very confused about what. Who was having a home game and which team was which. But that should be cleared up because they're going to St. Louis for the next two games, so shouldn't be a problem coming up.
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Brady
I'm going for the Blue. I didn't realize Nathan Walker was actually getting some legit minutes. When I was following his career. He was playing for, like, the Hershey Bears and he wasn't getting a lot of NHL time.
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Katie Nolan
And then you abandoned him when he made it to the league. Interesting.
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Brady
I think I abandoned him before that.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah.
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Brady
Well, I didn't follow because I haven't followed it in a few years. But seeing him playing 73 games, 8 goals, 8 assists. Good job by you, Nate.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. And now you have somebody to root for for the next, like, maybe three days.
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Brady
Yeah, that'll do.
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Katie Nolan
Or they win. You know, anything can happen. Okay, guess what? I know you already know this. The Colorado Avalanche are playing the Dallas Stars. The Stars, this was a. They've played two games in this series already as well, which is very interesting because when we get to the Panthers and the Lightning, they have not played a game yet. So it's weird how this is, but the Avalanche and the stars have played two games. The series is tied, 1:1. Colorado took the first game 5 to 1, and the stars took the second game 4 to 3. In overtime. The Stars are missing a one of their top defensemen and a forward, but they have a lot of depth at forward, which is very helpful to them. And I believe that that overtime goal was scored by like, somebody pretty deep on their chart, but that's how stacked they are. The interesting story with the Avalanche, to me, is Landiscog. He has not played. He's returning from an injury. He last time he played was In June of 2022, Game 6 of the Stanley cup, when they won. Has it's been a thousand, A thousand thirty. I hate the way that that number rolls off the tongue, but it's been 10, 30 days since he's played. He was listed as maybe playing yesterday. He didn't. But we imagine we're going to see him play for the Avalanche. If he does, he will be the first hockey player to come back from the surgery that he had. It was some sort of like a knee cartilage replacement surgery. It's the same surgery Lonzo Ball had that he would be the first hockey player to come back from that and play. So something to root for. That's like an underdog thing. So you could tell your co worker that you're really rooting for a Landiscog appearance. I'm pretty sure that's how we're pronouncing it. And, and, and that that next game is Wednesday at 9:30 and you're really fired up about that. You could say, tough for the Stars. You could say, well, it's tough. They're missing their guys, but they're still battling hard. These are all things you could say.
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Brady
Do you have any affinity for Charlie Coyle still? Former Bruin plays For the Avalanche, he was just a former Bruin.
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Katie Nolan
I don't like acknowledging that I have a hockey team that people used to play for that won't be coming up in any of this. Fair enough. Yes. Love has love. Love to any former Bruin, always. I don't like thinking about the Bruins. Who are they? I don't know her her. But you know who I do know? The Minnesota Wild. And I know that they're playing the Vegas Golden Knights. Interesting little fact. The mark Andre Flurry, formerly the goalie for the Vegas Gold Knights, now a goalie on the Wild. But he's retiring. And after his last game, like regular season game, he like gave this big speech that basically was like, I'm never playing again. So I, I, it, it's a little confusing because if you go deep into the playoffs, like usually you, you will sometimes let another goalie get in there. But it appears as though he thinks he won't be playing. I think it'd be pretty interesting if we saw him now. He's lost a step. He's a little old. Like I said, he's retiring, so it wouldn't be because they're like doing well. But we'll see. Just something interesting to know. It's something you could say. You could say, hey, Jim, did you know that that Mark Andre Fleury is now on the Wild? Not that he'll play. That's something that Jim would then go, whoa. And I think he'd really like that. The Wild had a really strong first half of their season, but then they limped into the playoff. So I think a lot of people are thinking that the Golden Knights will win this. Have I said yet that they won the first game four to two? Game two is tonight at 11:00. Love that game. Did you see the end of that game, this game? No, I did not.
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Chris
So I, this is the one game I watched because I was in Las Vegas and yeah, they were. They love the Golden Knights there and caught the end of the game, it was 3, 2. And the golden Knights were just kind of, you know, trying to skate it out and hold on to it. And the Wild pulled their goalie, which pulling goalie Isabella. When a team is down one at the end of a game, the goalie comes off and they just leave the goal completely exposed to put another scorer on.
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Katie Nolan
So you get an extra guy, but you lose your goalie. So you have six people. But if it gets out of that zone, it could easily be a goal.
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Chris
So right at the end, the Golden Knights were Just trying to clear it out. And guy just ripped him a wrist shot down the ice and at the exact buzzer it crossed, put it in the net. Now this means would the game be 3 to 2 or 4 to 2? And you would think it would be inconsequential, but I swear they went back and replayed it and replayed it and replayed it and the refs had to go check the clock. Meanwhile, like the game is over either way. The teams are trying to skate off the ice and they're going frame by frame and it's literally as close as it could possibly be. And it's just for the gambling implications of it, it's just to see if Vegas would cover 1 1/2 goals in this game.
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Katie Nolan
It was that they needed to. I had had this. I forgot that I did see the end of this game because I was like 4 to 2. I didn't see a game that ended 4 to 2, but that's cause it ended 3 to 2 to me. And my brother and I were watching and he said, I need them to win by two. And at the last second, this goal crosses the goal line and I was like, no effing way. But yes way they won by technically two goals. So bring that up to your co workers.
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Brady
I think speaking of former players from our favorite teams, Tomas Hurdle, former San Jose Shark.
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Katie Nolan
That's right.
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Brady
Now plays for the Vegas Golden Knights. He was my favorite player once upon a time when he was a Shark. I remember him dominating in his rookie season. I think he had a hatrick pretty early on in his career as well as well as like a really nice in between the legs.
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Katie Nolan
And his name rhymed with Turtle. So this. People talked about him a lot. I thought so many things and rhymes with Myrtle, my dog's name also while we're doing this, Bruce Cassidy, former Bruins coach, Coach, now the coach of the Golden Knights. So good to see people moving on from us and thriving.
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Chris
I mean, it feels like there are 300 guys in Boston named Bruce Cassidy. At a bare minimum, at any given time, there are 300 Bruce Cassidy's walking around.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, this one seems unexciting, but let me explain to you why it is. So we have the Edmonton Oilers up against the Los Angeles Kings. Now this, you may say to a coworker, this again, because this is the fourth year in a row that these two teams have faced off in the first round. And every year prior, the Edmonton Oilers have beat the Los Angeles Kings. Now the Edmonton Oilers still stacked. They still have McDavid they still have Draisaitl the but the Kings could possibly make this a series. They won the first game. It was insane. They won the game six to five. Isabella, let me paint you a picture. Los Angeles, it's the third period, the final period. Los Angeles is up five to three. I actually even think it was like five nothing at some point, but whatever. Five to three, they score a goal. With like a couple minutes left in the game, they score a goal. 36 seconds later, they score another goal. The Oilers. So now it's tied. It's five, five. It was all of a sudden, and this is in la, so the. It's like stunned silence from the crowd of like in 38 seconds they went from being up by two, the most dangerous lead in hockey, why to that. Because they just say that it's easy to blow. I don't know. Oh, okay. And now it's tied. And they're like, oh my God, are we gonna lose this game that we had pretty much won already? And then what's also crazy about that is that they had pulled their goalie, the thing that Brady described to you before. And a couple times the Kings had like fired a the puck down to the other end of the net and it had just missed. So they had like missed these empty net goals that wouldn't have mattered when they were up 5 3. But now they're tied 5 5. And you're like, I wish I could go back and make sure those goals went in in. And then the Kings scored like at the last, right at the end and they won. It was crazy. It was very exciting. Fun replay. Crowd went wild. So it is possible these Kings fans want this. They want to send this Oilers team home. They're sick of losing to this team in the first round. They've clearly got some fight in them. That's a very exciting to watch. I will say they have won game one twice before in this series of losing to the Oilers. So it's not a lock just because they won this first game, but certainly very exciting to watch. Game two is Wednesday at 10 o'clock and there's a woman in the booth. Okay, so that's the west. I think you've got a lot there that you can talk about. I really do. I think that you've got plenty there to work with. And now let's get to the east. This is, I mean, closer to my heart. So I can really get you looking like you know what you're talking about on this. So first we have the Ottawa Senators up against The Toronto Maple Leafs. This is exciting. This is called the Battle of Ontario. It's a rivalry between these two teams. Both Canadian teams, both located, I imagine, in Ontario. This is their first meeting in the postseason in 21 years. And that was like a very storied. You know, that means a lot to the fans of these two teams. So this is like a big league series. That being said, the Senators coming into this as the six seed. The Maple Leafs are the two seed. The Senators don't need this. I think there's. I've seen people say their season would still be seen as a success if they don't make it out of here. The Maple Leafs need to win this. The. All of the pressure is on them. They have been disappointing in the postseason for years, partially at the hands of my team, but again, we're not talking about them because they don't exist. They also have Linus Ulmark, a former goalie who's pictured in this picture here. Isabella. He's one of these goalies, so, you know, that hits home for us. Yeah, this is a big. This is an exciting one. The crowds are going to be crazy. Game 1, the Maple Leafs took 6 to 2. I was surprised by that score. I also didn't watch that game, so I can't really give you anything there, but anytime. It's a rivalry clash, and it's Canadian. We got a lot of Canadian teams in the postseason this year, and they haven't won a cup in a really long time. So, like, they're really all kind of clamoring to do this. So just keep saying Battle of Ontario, and people are gonna be really impressed by you. Um, then we have the Florida. The Florida Panthers, a team I don't like. Acknowledging. Acknowledging at all. They're playing the Tampa Bay Lightning, another team I'm really not a huge fan of. Now, this is a battle of Florida. Isabella, you may be thinking Florida Hockey. Is that a thing? I wish the answer was no, but it is. And these two teams are up against each other. Now, this is almost like a sibling rivalry, right? The Lightning historically, have been the better team, but lately the Panthers have been good, which is annoying to everybody, mostly me. And so this is kind of an interesting dynamic. Now, this is a. I want to say a rematch of. Yeah, last year, these two teams met in the postseason, but. But the Lightning have since kind of reloaded and. And are. So. It's almost like the older brother who was good is now coming back and is good again against, like, the. Who should be peaking little brother. And who doesn't love that? Who doesn't love a sibling? Isabelle is not going to watch any hockey. I'm looking at her face and I'm like, I'm. This is not doing the trick. I really thought you'd like.
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Isabella
I would. I just. You know what it is, is I. I need to set a scene for me to give me like, you know, know. You need to tell me. Okay, Isabella, at this time, you're gonna turn on this channel. Oh, and the best way to do it is you want to sit down on the couch, crack open a beer.
- [79:31]
Katie Nolan
Exactly. Right already. I. I assumed that you knew these things, and clearly you do because you're saying them.
- [79:37]
Isabella
So that's. Is it. Okay. That's the best way. And it's at 11:00pm this one?
- [79:41]
Katie Nolan
No, this is tonight at 8:30 is game one. I don't know why that happened, but they have not played their first game yet. Probably. I don't know.
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Brady
I got some specific games for you coming up later on the what to watch this week.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, that's right. I still do have to do that. Although I feel like this kind of covers what you should be watching. Um, this could go seven games. This is going to be all about the goalies. They got good goalies. And there's a lot of. This is a heated battle again. So this could be a really good series that I think you would enjoy watching, Isabella. Even though, unfortunately, a team from Florida will make it out and into the next round.
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Isabella
A team that has Brad Martin.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, why did you say that or.
- [80:16]
Isabella
No, that I remember that. How are you.
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Katie Nolan
Why are you doing that to me?
- [80:18]
Isabella
Just remembering facts to show that she remembers. I need to know who's gonna be on the team that I watch.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's.
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Isabella
If I had to root for one. Which one should I root for?
- [80:26]
Katie Nolan
The Lightning, I guess. But even saying that, I feel nauseous. So I. I don't. I don't know. Root for whoever you want. Root for whoever you want.
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Isabella
Okay.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. The Canadians in the Capitals, Montreal Canadiens. Washington Capitals. This is kind of exciting. Now, the Canadians were mad at. Not just because I'm a Bruins fan, but we're mad at them because they kept the Columbus Blue Jackets out of the postseason. They really almost blew it at the end of the season to the point that the Blue Jackets would have made it in. But they figured it out and they won their last game that they had to win, which I believe was against the Hurricanes. Don't quote me on that. And they made it in to the postseason but now facing off against the Capitals. This is a Vibes series. These two teams, the vibes of this intense hockey. Physical anger is what you're going to get out of this series. It was the. This time the game won. I don't know why I couldn't figure the other day was what I was going to say. In game one, the Capitals wanted an overtime, 3 to 2. That was Alexander Ovechkin's first ever playoff overtime goal. So it took him however many goals to score one in overtime in the playoffs. So that's exciting. Still more things to root for him and watch him for. Isn't that exciting, Isabella?
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Isabella
Will we see, like, actual fights at this game?
- [82:01]
Katie Nolan
Could we? Could. We certainly saw a lot of physicality. The Montreal Canadiens, if you ask like a hockey expert, they're not really very good, five on five. But this, I think, again, the vibes of this will carry it. I think there's going to be a lot of shoving, and I just think it'll be good hockey. Even though it's an 8 and a 1, it feels like this will be good. What does that mean to me? Like an 8 seed versus a 1 seed. So it should be an easier matchup. I just think it could be good. I don't know.
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Chris
So we've established the things that are gonna get Isabella to watch the series are beer and punching.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Isabella
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
This will have that.
- [82:36]
Isabella
Oh, and I want to see an instance where you guys are talking about where, like, there's no one at the goal.
- [82:40]
Katie Nolan
They'll all do that.
- [82:41]
Isabella
Okay.
- [82:41]
Katie Nolan
Almost every team. Sometimes they'll do it at the end of a period. But mostly, though, you'll see it. If you tune into the third period and a team is down by like a. They'll just. They want the extra man.
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Isabella
And it's intense. Is divided into quarters.
- [82:56]
Katie Nolan
Three. Three periods.
- [82:58]
Isabella
Periods.
- [82:58]
Katie Nolan
Three 20 minute periods.
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Isabella
Oh, that's quick.
- [83:01]
Chris
When they're gonna pull the goalie. You get a little picture in picture window on the screen of the goalie.
- [83:06]
Katie Nolan
Skating off to the. To the bench.
- [83:07]
Chris
The broadcast will watch the goalie. Cause, like, is he gonna come off? Is he gonna come off? And then he starts moving and you're like, oh, it's hitting the fan right now. You see him in his, like, big, bulky pad, scuttle, scuttle over to the. Over to the wall. And like, then, you know, the net is empty and they're really going for the goal. That's when it gets wild.
- [83:25]
Katie Nolan
And then it's all about keeping the puck in the zone because as soon as the puck squirts out of the zone, then you're like, oh, no, this could be a goal. Because there's. There's no goalie. So it's just a very intense. Also power plays. I don't know if you're familiar with power plays, but when you get a penalty, let's say you trip somebody on the other team, they'll blow a whistle, and then you get sent to the penalty box. Your team has to play without you and without a man for the length of your penalty. So it's five on four. Or if you trip a guy and then in the. On the next play, one of your teammates cross checks a guy, hits him in the back right into the boards, then he goes to the box. Now it's five on three.
- [84:03]
Isabella
That's.
- [84:03]
Katie Nolan
They take people.
- [84:05]
Isabella
That's really interesting, the. The premise of a penalty box. Like, they're like, you go away.
- [84:10]
Katie Nolan
It's bad girls club.
- [84:11]
Isabella
It's like, you don't just go to the bench. You don't just go and sit down.
- [84:14]
Katie Nolan
With your team again. You have to think about what you. Mm. You need to go sit and think about what you've done.
- [84:19]
Isabella
You gotta repent.
- [84:20]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
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Isabella
Very, very Catholic this game.
- [84:22]
Katie Nolan
Yes. Hockey's very Catholic. The Pope would be proud. May he rest. And then there's only one game left. This segment has fallen apart. I just want people to like hockey. It's the Devils and the Hurricanes, which I should not have ended on.
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Brady
Let's go, Canes.
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Isabella
What?
- [84:36]
Katie Nolan
Oh.
- [84:37]
Brady
Let's go, Canes.
- [84:38]
Katie Nolan
It's the Devils and the Hurricanes. They're gonna go. It's most likely they're gonna go. They won 4 to 1. Game 1. Game 2 is tonight at 6, so a reasonable hour for anybody who goes to bed early. Dorks. The Devils are missing two of their best players. Jack Hughes is not currently playing, so.
- [84:58]
Brady
Hughes.
- [84:59]
Katie Nolan
Jacques. That's fun. They do have a good power play, but Carolina has not lost in round one since 2001, which is kind of nuts. Carolina has a guy named Stank Oven. Stank. It's spelled Stank Oven, so that's. Can't be mad at that.
- [85:20]
Chris
It's like the Dutch oven. 20, 25.
- [85:22]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. So that's kind of what's up. I want to root for the Devils because I feel like, you know, New Jersey, but I don't think they're probably going to be able to. That's one of those series where everyone's kind of like, that one might end kind of quickly. But we don't know, again, anything can happen in hockey. And you know that now, listener, because you're an expert. Listen, I want to issue an apology on behalf of that last segment. Sometimes you have these ideas and they don't fully come together, but that was. I really believed in that one and watched a lot of hockey. So watch hockey, and if you like it, write us an email about how much you liked it and what you liked about it. So I can use that to better convince Isabella that she would really like hockey. Isabella, short of the. You know, with the Rangers not being in. You need a team.
- [86:13]
Isabella
I'll just. I guess I'll do the Devils, then.
- [86:15]
Katie Nolan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
- [86:16]
Isabella
But aren't they. They're Jersey, right?
- [86:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. So I don't think you. If you really want to, you can.
- [86:24]
Isabella
They're gonna.
- [86:24]
Chris
Day after the Pope died, and you're like, I'm going to the Devils.
- [86:27]
Katie Nolan
Wow. Wow. We need a new Pope conclave. I was gonna recommend. It would be fun. You could root for the. The Oilers is a. Is a fun team. They've got. They score fun goals. Okay. But I. But I'm kind of rooting for the Kings to finally get theirs and knock them out. So you could root for the.
- [86:50]
Isabella
I don't know. I'm thinking maybe I should root for the Panthers.
- [86:53]
Katie Nolan
No, don't. I knew you were gonna say that. And I don't know what I did to you that's making us fight, but I wish we could stop. Okay, maybe you should. The Capitals. You could root for Ovechkin. Okay. I don't know. I know him. You do know him.
- [87:08]
Isabella
And he drinks Pepsi.
- [87:10]
Katie Nolan
He does. On the bench. Chris, I feel like. I feel like we already. But why don't we tell us what to watch? If somebody wanted to watch sports this week and they didn't want to watch any of the stuff I said at. What could. What's some of the stuff they could watch?
- [87:26]
Brady
Well, but real quick, just coming off the NHL chat, we have something very, very fun tonight. You mentioned that the Devils and Hurricanes play tonight. That's at 6pm Eastern on ESPN. There's also two other games after that. We have a weekday triple header, a weekday NHL postseason triple header on espn. So, Isabella, once we finish this, you can sit down at 6pm you can crack open your first.
- [87:50]
Katie Nolan
Which. We're going to finish this. Yeah.
- [87:52]
Brady
Yep. Devils at Hurricanes. Figure out what you like about it. You know, use that game to serve as an introduction into postseason hockey. If you like it. Stay tuned for Panthers at lightning at 8:30 then if you like that, you've got the Wild at Golden Knights at 11pm Eastern.
- [88:09]
Isabella
One of these games, I'm gonna have to make dinner.
- [88:11]
Brady
That's fun.
- [88:12]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. During period breaks. Turn the. It's got good, good ambient noise, too. Hockey. And. And it's hard for me to pay a compliment to espn, but I will hear something they do that I love is during the penalty. I mean, the intermissions, they'll keep a timer on screen about how long until the next period starts. So it'll be like you have this many minutes. So you're like, oh, okay, I can budget my time properly and you can use that to cook whatever you're cooking. Okay, great.
- [88:39]
Brady
Cool. Next one. NBA Knicks at Pistons. There you go. Isabella, there's another one for you. They play Thursday at 7pm Eastern. That'll be game three. I think they're also playing tonight. But I want to go.
- [88:49]
Isabella
New York, go, oh, what did I do to you?
- [88:51]
Katie Nolan
You said he's rooting for the Panthers.
- [88:55]
Brady
And that's a double header as well. So you can watch that game at 7pm and you can stay tuned for the OKC Thunder versus Memphis Grizzlies game at 9:30pm Eastern. Then as we take our trip around all the North American sports leagues. MLB on Saturday, Texas Rangers at San Francisco Giants. That'll be Saturday at 4:00pm Eastern on Fox. Tyler Melly versus Robbie Ray. Tyler Melly is currently 3.0on the season. He's leading the majors with a 0.68 ERA. Isabella, that means he's very good. He's not giving up many runs whatsoever.
- [89:23]
Chris
So his elbow blew up last year.
- [89:26]
Katie Nolan
Yes. Isabella. Say that again. Yes.
- [89:28]
Isabella
Earned runs average.
- [89:31]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Hell yeah.
- [89:32]
Brady
Good job.
- [89:32]
Katie Nolan
Good job. I did my research, but why?
- [89:35]
Isabella
Because I wanted to know what you guys would be talking about.
- [89:38]
Katie Nolan
I love that. Also, Robbie Ray, if that's not enough to get you tuned in, Robby Ray wears typically pants very tight. Re. Like, like unscary. Uncomfortably tight. Like, Robbie, what are we doing? You know? But if that works for him, that works for him. But boy, are they tight.
- [89:52]
Chris
Okay, Chris, you left off NFL draft Thursday.
- [89:56]
Brady
It's the NFL draft Thursday. We can talk about that.
- [89:58]
Chris
Super bowl of graphic overlays.
- [90:00]
Brady
Yep. Great point. So we'll definitely, definitely check out the. The draft that lasts, what, three days?
- [90:09]
Katie Nolan
Definitely going to watch the deep rounds of the NFL draft.
- [90:11]
Brady
Definitely going to watch that.
- [90:12]
Katie Nolan
If you know anything about me, it's that I love deep rounds of the NFL draft.
- [90:16]
Brady
And one more thing, one more bonus thing really quick. I Haven't spoken about it in the last couple of weeks because it's been too depressing. But Carlton played this weekend on FS2 105am on Sunday. They've won their last two games. I didn't talk about them for a while because they were.04 to start the season. But we've won our last two games. We're on TV on Sunday morning. I finally told my daughter about Jagger Smith's injury because it got to the stage where. Where the season is just like looking really depressing. And we're watching the game on Friday at my in laws and Izzy, my daughter's just like, where's Jagger Smith? And I said, darling, I just gotta. I gotta come out and tell you, he's injured. We're not gonna see him all season. She's like, why? I'm like, he's injured. He's gonna be away, but we can watch him next year. And you know what she said?
- [90:59]
Chris
Get up.
- [91:00]
Brady
Oh, no. She said, okay. And then walked away. And that was it. So I've been waiting all of this time. I'm like, man, she's gonna be devastated. Like, we won't be able to see him for a year.
- [91:08]
Katie Nolan
I didn't even wanna like this D.
- [91:10]
Brady
What this means, but sure, yeah.
- [91:12]
Katie Nolan
Oh, good. So there we go.
- [91:13]
Brady
But Carlton finally looking okay. I haven't been talking about them for a long time because I've been avoiding having to mention them, but they. If they win this weekend, we're back on track.
- [91:24]
Katie Nolan
Hell yeah. Congrats.
- [91:26]
Brady
Thank you.
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Katie Nolan
And then watch the draft because Brady says so. We'll talk about it. I guess we didn't talk about it today, but we talked about so much. What other podcast is giving you NBA, NHL baseball, WrestleMania and women's hockey, huh?
- [91:42]
Brady
NAFL.
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Katie Nolan
NAFL and a Drake Kendrick lawsuit. Who's given you all of that? It's us. It's Casuals. If all that makes the cut. I feel like I just made your edit a lot more difficult. But we will probably talk about the draft. I'm gonna say this on the record so that he is held to account if he doesn't show up. Kenny Main on Thursday, I texted him and we'll talk to him about the draft. That'll be really fun. Thank you so much for listening to our Wild and Wacky Tuesday episode of Casuals. If you want to reach out with any sort of maybe to tell me that you actually really love that hockey segment, you can text me that or you can email Casuals with Katie nolan gmail dot com. Our voicemail is 646-801-0043. On IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. We love you. We mean it. See you Thursday.