Spilling Tea, Invading Moonbounces, and Erling Haaland | with Rosebud Baker

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan – "Spilling Tea, Invading Moonbounces, and Erling Haaland"

Host: Katie Nolan | Guest: Rosebud Baker | Date: July 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Casuals dives into the drama, heartbreak, and wild moments of the soccer World Cup’s Round of 16; explores sports fandom, parenting, and messy sports-adjacent tea with comedian and author Rosebud Baker; and wraps up with a "pick-your-team" rundown for the quarterfinals. True to Casuals’s spirit, the conversation swings from serious soccer analysis to parenting mishaps, hilarious confessions, and biting cultural commentary—making room for both the die-hard fan and the sports newbie.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

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[01:01] – World Cup Round of 16 Recap

1. USMNT vs. Belgium (Embarrassing 4–1 Loss)

• Katie expresses deep frustration and embarrassment at the U.S. team's elimination, especially after ongoing efforts to support them.
• Notably, the controversial overturning of Balogun's red card and the public/political interference, including rumored calls from Trump to FIFA President Infantino.
  • Quote (Katie, 06:28): “Having watched one and a half soccer games, Isabella watched that third goal… and went ‘Oh, my God.’ So it sucked. It sucked. And everyone was mad at us.”
• The crew discusses political outsiders' takes and the sanctity of the game amid presidential interventions.
• [13:07] – Listener Voicemail (Lois from Canada): “The real World Cup is next year!” (meaning the Women’s World Cup), providing comic relief.
• Brief tangent on Gotham FC moving to Queens, sparking mild New Jersey-based outrage.
  Timing: [06:00–15:00]

2. France vs. Paraguay (1–0, Mbappé's Resilience & Racism Scandal)

• France wins in extreme heat, with Mbappé scoring the only goal on a penalty.
• A Paraguayan senator’s racist social media attack on Mbappé is dissected and strongly condemned by Katie.
• Mbappé’s dignified response is praised.
  • Quote (Mbappé, via translation, 21:09): “Madame Celeste Amarilla, you are a despicable woman and unworthy of your position…”
• The senator’s subsequent “apology” and threat of legal action for “gender-based violence” is met with disbelief and derision.
  • Quote (Katie, 23:05): “Fuck this lady. That’s my stance.”
    Timing: [19:00–24:30]

3. Other Matches Recapped in Countdown Format

• Morocco vs. Canada (3-0): Discussion of captain Alphonso Davies choosing not to play while injured, then manager Jesse Marsch’s post-game coping (“We were the better team…”), prompting Katie’s fiery mockery of “expected goals” culture.
• Switzerland vs. Colombia (0-0, 4-3 PKs): Written off by the crew as “incredibly boring.”
• Norway vs. Brazil (2-1): Major upset, with Erling Haaland starring and Neymar announcing retirement from international football.
  • Quote (Katie, 31:03): “He’s a very Isabella-coded player... fun, cute, funny, everybody loves him.”
• Spain vs. Portugal (1-0): Ronaldo’s alleged last World Cup, with emotional cope in postmatch statements.
• Argentina vs. Egypt (3-2): Egypt’s heartbreaking loss after a VAR-overturned goal and last-minute Argentine comeback, causing Katie palpable pain.
• England vs. Mexico (3-2): The match of the round—altitude, weather drama, Viagra for blood flow, England’s resilience, and wild crowd scenes.
  • Quote (Katie, 40:57): “Let’s get boned up and watch some soccer.”
  • England wins despite being a man down and post-game injury absurdity (Jordan Henderson, non-playing, breaks his arm celebrating).

Close of segment includes a shoutout to Louis Tomlinson (ex-One Direction) for livestreaming the England-Mexico match during his U.S. tour.
Timing: [24:30–48:00]

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[49:32, Guest Interview] – Comedy, Parenting & Sports with Rosebud Baker

1. Memoir Realness and Audiobook Recording

• Rosebud shares why she recorded her own audiobook and reveals family secrets with the same sardonic humor as her writing.
  • Quote (Rosebud, 51:06): “[She] just sort of blindly found her way through this. Let her just go, ‘Why does it hurt so much?’”
• Discussion of how grueling memoir promotion can be.

2. Rosebud’s Sports Fandom (Or Lack Thereof)

• Identifies as a “city vibe” fan—loves being swept up in local sports excitement more than following teams or stats.
• Admits to watching Knicks playoff games just for the community and spectacle.
  • Quote (Rosebud, 53:19): “What I do love about sports… is just watching a city that I live in go nuts…”

3. Parenting – No Manuals or Moonbounces Are Safe

• Hilarious anecdotes about raising a toddler (“Minnow,” who is “three foot five” at two and a half), sporting hopes for her daughter, and going “full hockey/rugby mom.”
• Confesses to nearly fighting a child in a moonbounce for pushing her kid—no regrets!
  • Quote (Rosebud, 61:23): “Yeah, I was ready to fight that child.”
• Zero patience for internet mom-shaming and parenting books; trust your own instincts.
  • Quote (Rosebud, 62:28): “I tend to resent advice... I’ll be in an exercise class… I signed up for this and I’m pissed you’re telling me what to do.”

4. Rosebud as Sports Participant

• Kid sports: benched from cheerleading for both smoking weed and being “too mean,” failed attempts at lacrosse (due to double broken arms—pool jump with casts = disaster), and unimpressive goalie performance.
  • Quote (Rosebud, 66:51): “So they put me as goalie because I was like, a chubby kid… but I didn’t watch the game.”
• Appreciation for team snacks and social aspects over competition itself.

5. Pop Culture & Sports Tea

• Sports-adjacent drama: The viral cheating incident involving the Spurs’ play-by-play announcer and a player’s sister. Katie and Rosebud praise the girlfriend’s public “messy” response.
  • Quote (Rosebud, 77:14): “They should be afraid to cheat, you know what I mean? …Go earn it.”
• Rosebud on “airing it out” after being wronged and the internet’s reward system for bad behavior.

6. Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, SNL Memories

• Brief discussion of the much-discussed Swift/Kelce wedding: Rosebud unbothered by not being invited, more focused on Bieber fandom.
• SNL experience: grueling but exhilarating, and the “greatest practice for motherhood.”

7. World Cup “Pick-a-Team” Game

• Katie shops for Rosebud’s bandwagon team among World Cup quarterfinalists, using both fun facts and player headshots. Spain and England lead for “pretty eyes” and “fandom insanity.”
  • Quote (Rosebud, 112:40): “I just love an insane fandom… and they are nuts.”
• Final pick: England, for the sheer passion and chaos.

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[116:16] – Mailbag & Listener Highlights

1. WNBA Roundup (Listener Email from L)

• L spotlights major WNBA moments the mainstream misses:
  • Marina Mabry’s 53-point game (with only 10 FTs and 9 threes!)
  • The Liberty winning the Commissioner’s Cup
  • Rookie Olivia Miles headlining the All-Star break with the surging Lynx
  • Liberty still booing the commish loudly.

2. Listener Voicemail – Arborist & the Hockey Stick

• Kali, an arborist in San Jose, offers to donate a tree for the Sharks’ 7’1” draft pick’s stick.
• Katie delights in the diversity of listeners and anticipates the PWHL team’s naming process.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “[On USMNT’s loss] I almost got rage baited… they said Christian Pulisic played like Megan Rapinoe out there. Sounds like a compliment.” – Katie (12:01)
• “Fuck this lady.” – Katie, on the racist senator attacking Mbappé (23:05)
• “Viagra in the rundown is because before the game, they said England players were using… Viagra, which helps with blood flow…” – Katie (39:11)
• “Yeah, I was ready to fight that child.” – Rosebud (61:23)
• “Go earn it.” – Rosebud, on going full messy after infidelity (77:50)
• “I love an insane fandom… they are nuts.” – Rosebud, choosing England (112:40)

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Key Timestamps

| Segment | Time | |------------------------------------------|-------------| | USMNT World Cup Exit | 06:00–15:00 | | France-Paraguay Racism Scandal | 19:00–24:30 | | Norway Upset & Erling Haaland | 30:48 | | England-Mexico Match Recap | 38:00–48:00 | | Rosebud Interview Begins | 49:32 | | Parenting, Moonbounce Story | 60:38–61:23 | | Sports Tea/Spurs Cheating Drama | 75:20–81:00 | | SNL & Pop/Reality Crossover | 88:00–98:00 | | World Cup “Pick-a-Team” Game | 101:31–113:18| | Listener Mailbag (WNBA, Arborist) | 116:16–121:15|

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Episode in a Nutshell

This episode of Casuals fuses hard soccer truths, sports fandom chaos, and comedic sharpness—delivering everything from a forensic breakdown of World Cup heartbreaks to a guide for bandwagoners, spicy takes on gender and media, and Rosebud Baker’s delightful “sports agnostic” perspective. Whether you’re here for the game recaps, the laughs, or the messy drama—from moonbounces to cheating scandals—Katie and Rosebud keep it loose and welcoming for fans at every level.

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see that Jalen Brunson got surgery on his wrist?

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I did.

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And that he played in this finals with like a debilitating injury, severe wrist injury while averaging 32 points a game.

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He's just like that. Isn't that something that they do in hockey that you said they're allowed to do where like they can play with an injury?

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Well, they like they're. I think everyone's really allowed to do it, but they, hockey players tend to play through it. I think what they're allowed to do as opposed to other sports is they don't specify what an injury is so that you can't like re injure or target them in that way. Yeah, but then after the, usually after like the Stanley cup, they'll go, here's the list of injuries that the team was playing through. And there's always like a punctured lung and a couple broken ribs.

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I kind of like that because then now it's like, damn, so we, we won with his injured arm.

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So I guess he's just built different.

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He could probably win it again with a more healed arm next year maybe too.

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It's just logical. It's just a logical thought. I love this. Isabella now is expecting the Knicks to win the championship every year. We've created a expecting the Mets to

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win the World Series despite their that's

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gonna be a Brady's face. That's gonna be a tough one. I think that one's gonna be a little tougher. But anything can happen. Let's make a podcast. This episode is presented by Xfinity. Hello, and welcome to Casuals, a sports podcast that loves you and means it. Honestly. It's a sports podcast for people that can be chill about sports. You can be die hard about sports, but what matters is it doesn't really matter what you know. You just love it and you want to know what's going on. That's what we're here for. I am Katie Nolan. I host this thing. Joined today by the Casualties, the production crew here at SiriusXM. We have our sports newbie, Isabella.

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Good day.

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Our master editor, Chris.

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What's up?

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And Bubba.

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Bubba, Bubba, Bubba Brady.

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Whose accent do I take?

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As soon as. As soon as Chris says he likes being last, I don't know why, my brain goes, take it away from him.

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He likes that.

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Put in second again. I don't know why it happens, Chris. I can't help it. So sorry. We're gonna talk a little bit up top here about the World cup, but then we also have the very funny comedian Rose Bud Baker is here a little bit later. We'll talk to her about the World Cup. We'll talk about the Swift wedding, A little bit about parenting. More parenting than I thought we'd get into, but I was very interested because she's got a little baby girl named Minnow, and. And that rules. So we talk about that. Anyway, we'll get to that in a little bit. Don't forget, if you want to reach out to us, Casuals with Katie [e-mail] is the email address. 646-801-0043 is the voicemail. And on IG and Tik Tok, we are at Casuals, the podcast. But it is time now for your soccer spotlight, presented by Xfinity. This summer, you'll need a good connection for your watch party. Xfinity has wi fi so reliable you can host the world. And now you can lock in a price for five years. Xfinity. Imagine that. So last episode, we recapped the round of 32 because there were some great matches in there and I wanted to make sure you guys didn't miss them and we didn't move on too quickly. But now here we are. The round of 16 has come to a close as well. And so we've put these in a in kind of an order for the the all eight matches. And we will count them down for you now to recap them and go through some of the big storylines as we get ready to go into the quarterfinals. Uh, we Start. Isabelle, you want to do the numbers still, or did you hate that number eight. Wonderful. Number eight. We have Belgium versus the United States. I didn't like this. I don't like this at all. I didn't like this at all because I've been working my ass off to be a supportive and just like a United States men's national team believer. And it took a lot. It took a lot for me to get there mentally, and it felt like a responsibility because I've. I've been pretty mean to this team throughout the past, and. And I wanted to mean it. I wanted to believe in them, and I wanted to mean it. And obviously, certain people getting involved made that difficult right the day before this match. But I even still let the record reflect. Go back and watch the tape. I held the line. I was like, that's okay. Corruption's what you do in soccer. And so here we are a part of it all. And then they go out there and they lose 4 1. In maybe the most embarrassing way I've ever seen, that game was Belgium scored early, and our defense looked terrible on that first goal and sort of gave me pause. I went, whoa, that's not loving that. But then we scored, you know, then we got. We had. Tillman scored on another free kick. And I'm like, let's go, let's go. It's 1 1, 61 seconds after that goal, Belgium scored. And then there was the third goal. The third goal that Belgium scored made me want to turn it off. I was like, there's no way I could be expected to continue watching this game. After the go. I showed it. I showed it to Isabella yesterday because she came in yesterday and said, we lost. And I went, oh, that means you didn't see. And I showed it to her. And Isabella, who has watched Isabella, if you had to guess, how many soccer games have you consumed in your life?

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One and a half.

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Great. And having watched one and a half soccer games, Isabella watched that third goal in the Belgium game and went, oh, my God. So it sucked. It sucked. And everyone was mad at us. Love that. Love that. Love being the bad guy because of the bad guy. And did you see afterwards Belgium hit the Trump dance? It's just like, you know, for once, I really was looking forward to. I assumed at the end, even if America pulled this off, I know, crazy. But if they had pulled this off, I knew we were gonna have to deal with that. We were gonna have to deal with the inevitable White House visit we were gonna have to deal with. Because as we Saw with the men's hockey team and all of the. It. The. The White House loves someone else winning and sticking themselves, inserting themselves into it. It's what they love to do. And so I knew we would get there eventually. But I was really trying to blissfully ignore that. I was trying to have the team bring us all together as a country. And then the we get this overturning of the red card, which was a red card that we all thought was bullshit. So I was glad to see the outcome be that Baligan could play. Not obviously thrilled at the way it happened. I also should state for the record, just so we're clear, if this ever comes up again, I do not think it's okay for the president of the nation that is hosting the World cup to call the president of FIFA and say, get rid of that red card. And for that to happen. I think if you know me and have listened to anything I've ever made, I would hope you know that we were joking the other day when that was the angle that we took. It was because I wanted us all to still stay together and root for this team. But it was just seeing all these political people jump in and start to chime. And you see somebody smart, political people that don't watch sports chiming in on this. I saw a lot of. Before the game, I think the right thing for Baligan to do would be to sit. And it was like, well, that's not gonna happen. Respectfully, I see what you're saying. Politically, that's not gonna happen. It would never happen. No team would ever get gifted something like this and then go out of respect for the sanctity of the game. That should be FIFA's job, to respect and protect the sanctity of the game. But it was interesting seeing all these people who don't watch sports be like, and. And I feel if he has any integrity at all, he'll sit. I was like, I don't think so. I don't think. I don't think that would happen. It sucks.

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We were hoping that what was best case scenario, we were hoping that we win and he doesn't score a goal. We'd win, and it'd be like, oh, the other guys did it. So this was fine. And then we would have to go play a Spain or somebody really good. And this would all be irrelevant because either we beat Spain and prove ourselves, or we lose to a really good team like Spain.

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And we're like, okay, we made it really far right.

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The goal was to get further than we've gotten before. You always just want to build on and go farther. Now we're just doing the same we did last time.

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I know it sucked.

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And I just want to know what

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the one soccer game that Isabella has ever seen was.

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That's a good. And the half. And what the half was.

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Oh, by half, I meant, like, you know, watching pieces of. Yeah. Pieces of. And of my nephew's soccer practice.

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Practice.

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Okay. No, I have watched. I have watched pieces of, like, of. Of Gotham games. Like, when it's on tv, and I'm

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like, okay, did you hear the news? Did you hear the news about.

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Yes, they're going to Queens.

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Gotham is moving from New Jersey to Queens. I know there people are very upset. I feel like we should get into this next podcast, maybe keep an eye on the inboxes, because I know it made me think of Isabella's boyfriend, honestly, just because of the amount of teams that leave New Jersey to go to New York when they can. So I know people are upset about it, but I hated going to that stadium. So I'm actually kind of excited. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But.

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But the one full game I've watched was I watched the Egypt game against Argentina. Oh, yeah.

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Well, good one to watch. That's the one game you've ever watched.

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Yeah, I started watching it. Well, I started watching a little bit of it when we were in radio because it was on tv. And then when we were done, they were playing it on the big TV in the office. And, like, I was like, oh, this is lit. Although someone did. I started as I yelled at one point, and then someone came out and was like, hey, guys, you mind just being a little quiet?

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And you said, I do mind. And you said, actually, I'm so sorry,

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but I wasn't just me yelling.

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There was someone else yelling at me. I mean, and we'll get to it. There were a lot of reasons to yell. That's the one downside of watching sports at the office is you have to go like, yeah. And that feels so disingenuous. Listen, we could.

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That's your first experience with having to say, look, nerd, I'm watching sports. Oh, my God, you're one of us.

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We really. Oh, you're in a meeting. Look, we could talk about this match and the trump and the red card of it all for hours. I'm really, really trying to keep this podcast from going seven hours. And so I will just say that sucked. Everything about it sucked. I almost got rage baited some one of those Tweet. One of those accounts that tweets with a check mark and obviously is trying to piss people off when they're trying to be critical of Christian Pulisic, who I believe does deserve a bit of criticism. Although I think being branded as the face of US Soccer is like a thankless gig. No matter what, you either disappoint or, you know they're never going to go, he did it. He saved us. There's like, really? No. But anyway, they were trying to be critical of him and they said Christian Pulisic played like Megan Rapino out there. Sounds like a compliment. So I. The amount of tweets that I was like, what do you mean? It Play like, I wish he played like Megan Rapinoe.

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I'll take a hall of famer out there.

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It's just because people hate Megan Rapinoe because of her political beliefs, which are just who she is as a person. It just makes me so mad. It makes me so fucking mad. How dare you disrespect one of our great. See, I'm getting rage baited right now. Let me calm down. It's just the amount of likes that Tweet had. It'll make you sit down and go, what's anything for? Why do anything? Why do anything? Why try anything? Why care about anything if you can be this fucking stupid? I believe we got a voicemail about this, about this matchup, the USA matchup. Let's take a listen. Maybe Lois, I think, from Canada.

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Yep. Hi, Katie. And the casualties. It's Lois from Canada. I just want to say, don't worry about what happened in the Valerian game because we know the real World cup is next year.

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Right?

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That's the one that actually matters. Thank you so much. Love you.

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Mean it. Bye. Oh, Lois, you're so right. You're so right. And that's exactly the antidote. Antidote. I do that wrong all the time. The antidote to the rage, bait, anger that I was feeling there. Yes. The Women's World cup is next year in Brazil. Are there multiple host nations or is it just Brazil? I think it's just Brazil, but I don't. I don't. I haven't.

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Refreshed.

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We have a year to get ready for it. USA and Spain, I checked, are currently the favorites. Spain is a defending champion, the US Not a great showing last year. Forgivable if you missed it, I guess because it was in Australia. So it was a difficult time zone to follow. But we lost in the round of 16, which is the first round of the knockouts last year. Not last year, Last World Cup. 2024 to Sweden in penalty kicks. So not a great showing from the US Last year, but they are co favorites with Spain and so, yes, that is next year. We will be very excited for that. And it's going to be a regular time zone for us here in the United States, so it won't be as difficult to follow as that Australian one

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reigning, she believes, cup champions. Yeah, the United States women's.

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That's right. Yeah.

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So, you know, who cares about the last World Cup? This is the she believes cup champion.

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That's right. And she's got to believe. She's got to believe all day. I did like seeing members of the women's national team being critical of members of the men's national team. I know that sounds of like, of course they should be able to do that, but they've also, they've always been so good about not making fun of that team when everybody else did. And, and it was good to see, like, Carly Lloyd had some pretty pointed things to say. I saw Sydney LaRue had a couple pointed tweets. So it, you know, the game sucked. Do we want to get into this email from Kate? I saw we got a very interesting email from Kate, Chris.

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Yeah. So Kate writes in and says, hello, Katie and the casualties. First, I just wanted to say I love the show. Secondly, please don't apologize for the length of the pod, which you've already done today. Seven hours. But Kate is actually doing a three hour glucose test. Yay, pregnancy on Thursday. Oh, and Kate is already counting on casuals to help her get through the three hours of sitting in a doctor's office, bro. So we're going to try to make this as long as we can.

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Okay, let's slow down then.

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Anyway, I wanted to email in regarding a conspiracy theory I have related to the FIFA Baligan red card shenanigans. My theory is this. I don't think Donald Trump called anyone, let alone Giant Baby, about the Baligan card, but is now taking credit for it getting suspended. I have evidence to prove I'm not entirely crazy. First, Trump's in. Trump's initial post about the suspended suspension simply thanked FIFA for doing what was right. No mention of a phone call. He didn't say that he called FIFA till later. Why delay taking credit if he initiated this? And it's not like Infantino is going to call Trump a liar. Second, and I admit this one's a bit of a stretch, but Trump doesn't care about sports yes, he'll show up if he thinks it'll be good for him or if he gets to be near enough a trophy, but no way he cares enough to call Infantino, especially on the 4th of July weekend when he was busy celebrating. 250. Anyway, would love to know your thoughts, and if you think there's any weight to my conspiracy theory, Love you, mean it. Cheers. Kate.

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Kate, Love you, mean it. What a perfect email. I could. I see what she's saying that it's like, he did. I also do think there is always an aspect of Trump's gonna take credit for anything he can. He's always gonna go, that was all me. And like she mentions, it's not like Infantino would go, hey, hold on. No, it wasn't all him. Because then your Peace prize winner that you invented is a liar. And so I do see why this could be what happened. I don't even know what I'm rooting for. I don't even know what the. It's like, it, that's, I just. The whole thing's a mess. And it has, like, opened the door for all of these other instances where it feels like there may be some corruption. Now all these teams are like, yeah, it's all corrupt. Like, Iran has an actual argument to make that they were treated unfairly in their ability to come in and out of the country freely. You could argue. I saw somebody today run the numbers on these VAR reviews and how many of them have benefited smaller countries? And it's like eight of eight. Oh, for eight. There's like, no, it's not helped the nations that aren't considered favorites at all. And so it's. The reason this is also frustrating is because it's like, once you open the door for one conspiracy, it just becomes this big. If anything can be corruption, then it's like, what's even the fucking point? And that's why the whole thing is exhausting. So I, I, I buy this, Kate. I don't know, but I'd buy this that he's just taking credit for it happening some other way. It's just like a real shit sandwich that I haven't enjoyed eating. Fair enough.

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Sandwich. Yeah.

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Not tasty. Not tasty. And you still gotta do the dishes and they're covered in shit. So not ideal. Let's go.

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Good luck with the glucose test, by the way. Kate.

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Yeah. Three hours, I guess. I don't know what it is.

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Is it, like, to test for gestational diabetes?

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Geez Louise. And they've gotta draw blood for Three hours or it's to.

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You have to drink some not so nice cake, is my understanding. And also draw blood.

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Well, if this doesn't end up being three hours, watch a movie.

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Yeah, because it's about an episode. I don't know if you've checked in, but Isabella's fucking.

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I promise I'm not.

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No, but it's genuinely why I'm trying. The only reason I'm trying to keep this thing shorter is because, like, theoretically, if we're bringing in new fans and you don't listen or like sports, why would you give it two and a half hours of your time? So I'm trying to keep them as quick as possible so we don't bore the Isabellas of the world. Anyway, Isabella, what number comes after 8? Number 7. I didn't rank these, and I hope I don't take issue with any of them, but Paraguay, France, is number seven. France won one nil. This was on Saturday. Killian Mbappe scored the goal in the 70th minute. It was a penalty kick. This was, I heard them say during the broadcast, one of the hottest matches ever played in the. In the World cup, which I found crazy because of the World cup taking place in Qatar. But then you remember that they changed that to be in the winter, so that could be why it wasn't as it was like a hundred something on the field in Philadelphia that day. Um, the story that has come out of this one baffling to me who this lady is and why the she keeps opening her mouth proverbially. But a Paraguayan senator, Celeste Amarillo, got super racist talking about Killian Mbappe on social media. On Instagram on Saturday night, she posted two pictures of Killian Mbappe and called him a quote, colonized Cameroonian desperately trying to pass himself off as French, and then said that he was resentful, arrogant and ugly. Writing quote this, like, even reading this, when I read this, you see the headline and you go, oh, what did she say? And then you read it and go, are you fucking okay? So she said, quote, this brute hasn't even learned to write. Instead of breast milk, he grew up sucking on coconuts. And the most educated creatures he ever heard were chimpanzees.

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Jesus.

[B]

This was after that whole game they spent beating the shit out of Mbappe. Also, like, Paraguay's whole mo for that game was to play dirty, to foul him, to kick that man in the legs and just treat him like shit. And the best they came out of it was like he just laughed it off and won the game.

[A]

He did keep laughing at them. I. It's like that probably drove them nuts. And I love that. I love that. Really brutal. Really brutal. No wiggle room there. So Mbappe, I guess, who has learned to write, quickly disproved her and said in a statement on X, Madame Celeste Amarilla. Amarilla, you are a despicable woman and unworthy of your position. This is via translation. You do not represent Paraguay, that country which has sweated passion and honor throughout the. Through your recklessness and your brazen racism. The entire world has already forgotten the journey and the historic effort that your players accomplished during this World cup, making way for an incompetent woman who gives the worst possible image of her country, which I think was very kind to the country, which as Brady pointed out, was not very kind to him during the match and had a lot of people going, yo, this seems very dirty and not a fun underdog to root for. He showed them quite a bit of class in that statement, while being to the point to her of like, hey, this isn't cool, but I'm not going to hold it against your country. Then she responded, oh, I didn't see that. Which like, lady, cut it out, it's over. She responded in an open letter. My posts were written in the heat of the moment. My mixed race blood, the beautiful blend of indigenous and Spanish heritage that runs through my veins, was boiling. What the. Later, I regretted responding with the same insults that I myself have received. Okay, so it was racism because I too have been looked down upon for being dark skinned Latin American and as they call us, I don't even know what that means. I'm not going to say it. I realized I was repeating the very behavior I despised. So I deleted the post. I understand it upset you because it was humiliating. Now I expect you to do the same. Withdraw your remarks and apologize to me.

[C]

What?

[A]

I will not tolerate your aggression. You have no idea who I am and you have no right to say that I am a despicable woman unworthy of the office I hold. This is gender based violence, plain and simple. It is political violence against a woman who reached her position through the votes of her people. Retract your remarks. Honor your French citizenship. That I tried to say doesn't count. Honor your French citizenship and apologize to me. Otherwise I may begin legal proceedings on the ground of gender based violence. Lady, I honestly. Goodbye. Goodbye. Good night. Go away. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Apologize to me. What a victim. Oh, this poor woman. Because he mentioned at the end that you were an incompetent woman. He's just saying you are incompetent. He's using it as an adjective to describe a noun and the noun is woman. A way that it would be man. I don't, I didn't get from that at all. Sexism. If you, if you, a person not involved in this drama felt offended by what Mbappe said, I would be, I guess, open to hearing it as a woman. I didn't go, whoa, he hates women. Yeah, whoa, that's gender based violence. I just to say to fuck this lady. How about that? That's my stance. Fuck this lady. And I try not to judge countries based off of their, the way they're represented in this World Cup. But there are a couple that my opinions of have not gotten better, if you know what I'm saying. Let's move on to number, number six. Number six. We have Morocco beating Canada three nil on Saturday. Morocco now will move on to face France on Thursday.

[C]

I saw part of this match.

[A]

Yeah, you did mention that because it was the last round. You said you watched this. What made you want to watch this one?

[C]

My sister was actually watching my sister. My nephews, they were like rooting for, for them. And I was. And they were like, put it on. And I was like, okay, cool.

[A]

Two interesting storylines from this match. I just want to mention very briefly. Number one, their captain, Alfonso Davies was given the opportunity to play. They clear he was medically cleared. He's been dealing with a hamstring injury. And they were like, you're good. The MRI was clear. And they were like, it's up to you. And he said, no, I. It hurts still. And I, I don't want to play through it. And so he did not play. He played 15 total minutes in the World Cup. It was in the match against South Africa. Now I know. Listen, listen to your body. That is important. Don't. You shouldn't push. I think we, we for too long in sports romanticized playing through injury. And I think there's real value in listening to your body and not re injuring yourself. That being said, in an elimination match, you're the captain. Is it crazy for me to say that? Get out there and try at least a little. If you get hurt, you can always come out.

[D]

I think for something like a hamstring, which has such a, a high risk of re injury, if he doesn't feel like it is completely healed. Yeah, then he should probably do what's best for the team and sit out because soccer has such limited substitutions. If you start the match and you end up having to get subbed out in the, you know, first 10, 15 minutes and you're a sub down, that could hamper your team's opportunity to win.

[A]

Good point.

[D]

If it's something where there is no chance of re injury and you just have to play through the pain, that would be completely different. But hamstring. Hamstring is such a. Yeah, they can be tough together.

[A]

All right, fair enough.

[B]

I'll back off here with your rational.

[A]

Yeah, fair enough. I just saw it and I went, what?

[C]

Yeah, like, I don't know. I'm glad OG Anunoby sat out a little bit because his hamstring was.

[A]

Yeah, but then you hear Jalen Brunson played through whatever the hell was going

[C]

on with his ribs, is the king of New York.

[A]

You're right. That's fair. That's fair. It's just your captain. It's just a bad. It's just a. But you're right. I'm sorry. This is my ignorance. So we'll move on from that. Let's make fun of their manager. So Canada's manager, Jesse Marsh, she's an American. He's one of our own. Didn't he say something about us in the anthem that, like, in America, they don't like the anthem, and in Canada, at least, they love their country anyway. Stupid. And I'm pretty sure he got schooled by one of our stars. But then after this match, again, Canada loses and is eliminated. 3. Nothing is the final score. We totally controlled the match. We were the ones more likely to win the game. But goals change games so they could sit back. But overall in the match, we were better than them.

[B]

So what?

[A]

They scored more goals. That's always gonna give you the win. But if you look at the numbers that aren't goals, we were supposed to win. So basically a win to us and they got lucky. Why are so many fucking people saying this? This year we keep running into this story. I'm baffled by it. Stop caring about expected goals. If nothing else, what it shows is that you underperformed. Performing still matters. Just because you were expected to score more goals from them doesn't let you off the hook. In fact, it should heighten the criticism of you. Why didn't you score those goals? Why did you let them score those goals? That's how you play soccer. I don't know a lot, but I know that. Do not go after the game and go, well, we were the better team, so we're actually fine with it. Oh, similarly and this is backing up to the USA game. Christian Pulisic. Don't come out and say, at least I get to rest now. It's like, I get it. And again, injury. Your body. Listen to your body. But when you pull yourself out of a match because of an injury, don't go like, I've got plenty. I've got plenty of time to rest now. We know. Just don't say that.

[B]

Just don't say we're trying to avoid you having time.

[A]

I also saw somebody pulp. People were pulling a lot of old quotes of his and using things against him that I don't think were fair, but one was very funny. It was from a GQ article where he was. They. They mentioned in the article that he's. He keeps playing with. Like it says Pulisic is wearing a. A silver crucifix that he keeps picking up and playing with. Throughout the interview. I asked him, does that. Does that. Does that mean a lot to you? Or something like that. And he goes, this necklace.

[C]

And.

[A]

And the guy said, no.

[C]

God.

[A]

Anyway, shout out to him. I'm sure he's Sarah Michelle Geller.

[B]

Cruel Intentions. Vibes crazy, this thing.

[A]

He goes, oh, this. This piece of jewelry. He's like, no, no, no. The. What it. What it is supposed to represent? Present mostly.

[C]

Oh, yeah, he's cool.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. Okay. Number five. Number five. This game. I'd rank it last if the other two weren't so crazy. This game. Oops, sorry, I forgot to care. Switzerland beat Columbia 43 in penalties. This just feels like if you guys go 00 the entire match and then it gets down to PKs and almost everybody scores them, I go, what are we doing? What is this? Where did we. You couldn't get any of the go. It was the last game of this round and I just. I didn't care. Is that bad?

[D]

No. I watched pretty much all of this match and it was incredibly boring.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

It was also. It was right after Argentina, Egypt.

[A]

Right. Which we're not mentioning yet because we're not there yet. But you'll see it's ranked pretty high. Number.

[C]

Number four.

[A]

Number four. We have Norway beating Brazil two to one. This was an upset. This was an exciting upset that maybe I would have put at three, but that's okay. Erling Holland scored both goals for his side. Neymar Jr got a PK, like, very late in this game. That's why they got one goal, but it was basically two nothing. He then announced his retirement from international football after the match. So goodbye to him. And they. Norway moves on to play England on Saturday at 5pm Eastern. Norway's very fun to watch and to root for. And that may be.

[C]

I haven't watched them yet.

[A]

They're fun. It's just. He's just a. He's great. Holland, you know, and they're just. Their fans are into the. So I don't know. This is a.

[C]

The rowing, right?

[A]

Yeah. This is like a special run for them. It's an inspired little run and we'll see how that goes.

[B]

Like, if you hear Juan. So does it bat, you're like, oh, okay. Like, I'm gonna tune in because some cool might happen. Every time Holland touches the ball, you kind of rise up a little bit.

[A]

You go like, oh, what's happening?

[B]

He may do something really special, right?

[D]

I think he's averaging something like a goal, seven or eight.

[A]

I saw that. I saw that too. And I went, I got to fact check that. Cuz that sounds crazy. But yeah, every couple times he touches the ball, he scores. It's sick and awesome.

[C]

That's how I would be. Totally.

[A]

And that's. I said, I said he's a very he, Remi. His comp is Isabella. He's a very Isabella coded player. Just the way he's such a huge difference maker. He's fun, he's cute, he's funny. Everybody loves him.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Keep going. Really charming. And. And he loves the Met, you know, I just feel like he's very Isabella coded. We've all been saying it. Number.

[C]

Number three.

[A]

At number three, we have Spain and Portugal. Spain beat Portugal one nil in what will have been Cristiano Ronaldo's final World cup appearance. I've got questions about this. I saw the day of the match. I saw an ESPN article. Christian Cristiano Ronaldo says he will retire after this World Cup. This. And then it had like quotes, this will be my last World Cup. Then I watched this match and the announcers were like, tough to say and you never know, but this may be Cristiano Ronaldo's final World Cup. And you're like, but it. But he said that it is. Why do you keep doing this? It was such a strange. And I still haven't really seen why that happened. So now I get nervous that someone's going to get mad at me if I say literally what he said, which is that this was his last World Cup. So heartwarming news. No more Cristiano Ronaldo in the World cup for some of us. And. And the Spain goes on to face Belgium on Friday at 3pm Eastern. What was this about post game that he said Brady.

[B]

So he went to the mic like, like this had been the end of it for him and translating because it was all in Portuguese. But he was like, before Ronaldo, Portugal had won nothing. I'm, I'm most proud of. I've won Euro 2016. They won the Euros ten years ago. I've won Euro 2016 and for me that has the same dimension as the World cup. Like. So him exiting the World cup, this is like at the arena still. Him exiting the World cup, the one thing he wants to talk about as well. I'm really proud that, you know, we basically won the World Cup 10 years ago when we, when we won the Euro. It's like, like, man, save that for down the road.

[A]

Yeah, that's Cope Mundial is what that is. All right, Number two. Oh, number two. Number two. We have Argentina versus Egypt. I moved this one because I'm upset with the way that it ended. So I moved it because it is as, as even though it's exciting and was a great game and, and wow, crazy how it happened. I'm pissed about it still because I was rooting for Egypt. I was rooting for Mo Salah. They were the, the underdog story. This was going to be my, my dark horse. This is who I wanted to ride into the, into the sunset with once the United States got eliminated. And so Egypt, the underdog Egypt, who won their very first World cup match, this World cup, they won it against New Zealand in the group stage. Then they beat Chris's Australia, sorry, Chris, in, in penalty kicks in the round of 32. And then they face off against Argentina, the defending champion, the number one ranked team, and they take a two nothing lead. They actually had a goal. There was a controversy that has since kind of bubbled up. They had a goal. Their second goal technically got taken off the board because of a penalty that happened so far away from where the goal was scored both in time and space. It was on the other side of a field and it was like second, 20 to 30 something seconds before an actual goal was scored. They ran. Then Egypt committed some sort of a foul, which again really questionable if it was a foul or not. And then they ran the ball down the field and scored a goal. They went to Var and decided that they had fouled the player and therefore the goal was taken off the board, which was really, as we would say in the United States sports, it was a real ticky tack. There was really no reason for Us to be calling that. But then they scored again. They. After that, they scored. They. So from that var review, Argentina got a free kick. They did nothing with that. Egypt defended that. And then Zico scored again in the 67th minute. So it was 2 nothing. Should have been 3 nothing, but they still managed to make it 2 nothing. And then we're in this. We get into the 78th minute, still nothing has happened, and you're like, oh, my God, this is going to be. And then in the 79th minute, Argentina scores. In the 83rd minute, Messi scores for Argentina. Now it's tied at 2. And then in the 93rd minute, in stoppage time, Enzo Fernandez scored the game winner and Egypt lost. I was devastated by this. It's like, reminiscent of that Senegal fall apart at the end. It just sucked. This sucked. Anyone else?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it was upsetting. I wanted them to win as well.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Argentina pulling it out at the last minute, whatever. The cup of Verde game. Yeah. Did it again against Egypt, I think.

[B]

Don't discredit Argentina putting the three goals in late.

[A]

Great. Good for them. Really happy for them. Yeah, I. I deflated my giant Messi. I took him off my lawn. I said, get this out of here.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

God bless you. That's okay.

[C]

I'm just really upset about this Egyptian.

[A]

She's allergic to this bullshit.

[B]

It's a half second where she's frantically saying, I'm so sorry.

[D]

Halfway through the sneeze. Didn't even finish this before she met.

[A]

Apologizing. That's our girl.

[C]

Also, Mo Salah is a cutie.

[A]

I know. He's. Oh, you mean like a cutie.

[C]

Yeah, he's a cutie.

[A]

I know, but he's like, also just like a cutie. He's like such a sweet. Remember the video I showed you of him and his daughter? Oh, he's the best. There's. He just loves soccer. He's just like, I love him so much. I'm so bummed.

[C]

I was like. And that was the. That was the team where I was like, oh, you know what?

[A]

Now that I'll, like, pay a lot

[C]

of attention to the World cup now, and that'll be the team that I follow. And then I was like, well, now I'm gonna have to find.

[A]

Well, when we get Rosebud in here, maybe we'll. We'll. We've got some evidence we could present to you to maybe help you find another team. Something to look forward to in this next segment. Egypt's manager had stuff to say after the match I saw he wasn't. He's like, I'm not going to watch any other games. Which I'm like, that's totally fair to me. He also said, you know, it could be a matter of marketing. They could want to make a World cup with the champion in the last World Cup. They want Messi to exist. I will say what's on. I will say what's on my mind, regardless of the consequence. This was clearly a rigged match and the whole world saw it. Listen, I. It's better than saying we won after they lost. It's better than going, if you check the numbers, actually, I think we won that one. I get look, something like that. A call like that that ended up being so consequential. It sucks. It sucks to be. That's what came down to your, you know, that's what took the win away. Not gonna fault a guy who's dealing with. With that. And that's because I'm biased. Come at me.

[C]

Why do I see Viagra? All caps in this round.

[A]

So we're about to get to it. That takes us to number. Number one. Number one. England. Mexico. This was, to me, the match of this round. What an incredibly exciting match we got from England. Mexico. It started a couple days before you started seeing headlines that were like, they might move this match because the weather's supposed to be really crazy. And England was complaining about moving the match and. And then they were complaining about weather and the. And the altitude of the stadium because at Azteca Isabella, it's like, I don't know how many miles above sea level, but it's like very.

[B]

It's about one and a half Denver's.

[A]

Yeah, it's like really high altitude and so it's hard to play sports there. And the reason it says Viagra in the rundown is because before the game they said that England players were using a whole number of things to try to cope with the altitude and the difficulties of playing at altitude. And they are allowed to take Viagra, which helps with blood flow famously and can help with blood flow in high altitude situations. During the broadcast of the actual game, the announcers were like, england players have been taking caffeine and other things we won't mention to try to deal with the altitude, which I was like, hell yeah, let's get boned up and watch some soccer. I also, this match had me calling my doctor, honestly, because I thought I was having a heart attack. Final score. England beat Mexico 32 in their house, which I don't think had happened before this was on Sunday. Jude Bellingham. What a game from him. He had. They called it jokingly. They were like. It's like he had a hat trick because he had two goals. And he also blocked what surely would have been a goal from Mexico. Just an incredible showing. He scored those two goals of his in two minutes. Within two minutes of each other. He was unreal. Their goalie also had an incredible game. What's his name?

[B]

Jordan Pickford.

[A]

Yes. Jordan Pickford had a fantastic game. Harry Kane had a great game as well. Who's the one with the blue eyes and the black hair? Desmond. Desmond Rice. Declan Rice. He had a run down the field that I was like, whoa, I don't trust that guy for some reason.

[C]

But.

[A]

But he. They all had a great game. They really played their hearts out.

[B]

It was. It was. And they were down a man in the last 20, 30.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They got a red card. Yeah.

[B]

And it was the intensity of Mexico giving it everything they had going down the field over and over and over. For the last 20 minutes of that game, all the Azteca fans were going insane. That crowd was loud. They were throwing water.

[A]

I saw them playing.

[B]

They were throwing beer in the air. Harry Kane, his voice just destroyed at the end of the game, like he sounded like a Mickey Mouse. Afterward, like he couldn't give the post gamer because these guys, like, lungs are. You could tell the whole team was just beat. They gave everything they had. It's like what the Argentina Cabo Verde game was like. All you want is for a team to go down swinging both sides to give everything they had. And that was just in front of raucous crowd.

[A]

Yeah, they gave the England gave so much that Jordan Henderson, a player who did not play towards the end of the match, received a yellow card, which was already funny because, again, didn't play. And then this is less funny because it's an injury, but it just. The circumstances of it. He ended up getting carted off the field because he was trying. After the celebration. During the celebration, he tried to jump over the little AD board. And if you watch the video, it's crazy. He slips and lands on his arm and broke it. He had to be carted off the field.

[B]

He had emergency surgery, skateboarding injury, and

[A]

carted off the field. 0 minutes of playing time. Absolutely absurd. From Jordan Henderson, it's the Lake Bacher Award.

[B]

Who had the least perfect game? The Marlins pitcher who gave up the five runs immediately after the perfect.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Jordan Henderson not getting into the game and getting a penalty and a broken arm.

[A]

Crazy. To crap your arm like the. The video was like, ow. Oh my God. Crazy. Also crazy. I'll remind you casuals listeners that we had Louis Tomlinson of. Formerly of One Direction, currently touring the United States. We had him on our podcast. When was that? October. Yeah. And we mentioned to him like, hey, I noticed your US tour is coinciding with the United States World Cup. And we. Let's just play the clip of us me talking to Louis Tomlinson about that. Did you do that on purpose? No, but it worked out perfect.

[C]

Perfectly perfect.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that, that, that I did. I looked at that just recently. This will be one of those things that if that I don't think there will be. But if there is a clash with one of my shows in an England game game and my fans will be aware and know that this is going to happen. The screens that normally have my face on and nice shots of me in the band, that will be the England game so I can chip in and out of it. And he did. He is a man of his word. When he was performing at the Spectrum center in Charlotte, North Carolina, he had on the England Mexico game, which I saw one of the rags, one of those British rags, go like fan disappointed. This is what my $200 went to. And what it was. I checked it to be like, really? People were mad.

[C]

All.

[A]

It was all people in the comments of a social media post that weren't at the show going, I would be so pissed if this happened to me. That's not what I paid for. And all the people who were at the show said it was actually one of the more intimate experiences they had ever had at a concert like that because he still put the show on, he still performed and did songs, but they basically got to watch him watch incredible match of a team that like he is a die hard soccer fan. He loves this team. And so to be able to watch a great World cup match with a guy that you love and are a fan of, it sounded like everyone who was actually there loved it. And the only haters were a bunch of people in the comment section that didn't get tickets.

[C]

I feel like that could be fun too. If someone in the crowd is like, Louie, turn around. Yeah, look like it's happening.

[A]

You can't see, but it's happening behind you.

[B]

He had like a second monitor in front of him. You could tell because one point he's singing and he's like looking down while singing and then just stops to celebrate a goal.

[A]

Which is if you just want to hear the songs exactly how they are. Listen to the album in your car. You know what I mean? You are getting a such a unique experience that no one else is receiving. And so I think that's fantastic. Next up, England's gonna play Norway. So that's gonna be interesting. Saturday at 5:00pm I'll be watching that one. Did you ever see that TikTok? I should have made us play it here as a drop. There's this little girl and the mom tells the little girl that the Jonas Brothers have a movie coming out. And she goes, damn. She goes, damn, I'm watching that. And then she walks away and she turns around, she goes, I'm watching that shit. And she's like, 11. It's hilarious. I'll find it and someday we'll play it for you. But that is your Soccer Spotlight. Thank you again to Xfinity for sponsoring this week's Soccer Spotlight. Stay on top of what everyone is talking about with Xfinity. It's WI fi, so reliable you can host the world. And now you can lock in a price for five years. Xfinity. Imagine that. Okay, we're gonna go to a quick break here, but when we come back, we'll be joined by comedian Rosebud Baker. You love her. You know her. Her new memoir, Fully Baked, A Messy Memoir, is out now. You can catch her on tour, the Paper Bag Princess Tour. We give her dates at the end of the interview, so you can check those there and check her website and grab some tickets. This is casuals. We'll be right back. The best summer pieces are the ones you end up wearing on repeat. Comfortable, versatile, and somehow right for almost any occasion. Quints makes it easy to create a summer wardrobe you'll love with elevated essentials made from premium materials like European linen, organic cotton, and washable silk without the traditional retail markup. Quince's 100% European linen pants, dresses and tops are the pieces you'll reach for all summer long. And it's not just apparel that Quince sells. Quince also offers elevated essentials for your home, from bedding and bath to kitchen essentials and furniture. I've ordered a duvet cover from Quince that I love, but one of my favorite things they have are those European linen shorts and shirts and pants so you can kind of mix and match your own set. They come in all of the summer colors that you want, make your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to quince.com casuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com casuals for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com casuals have you felt scammed after falling for skincare packaging and formulas that don't deliver results These days it feels like you always have to choose between quality and price. With Naturium you don't have to enjoy affordable luxury you can use every day. Natorium is clinically effective skincare for everyone, everywhere, every day. Their formulas are skin friendly, ph balanced and gentle yet powerful enough for daily use from head to toe. Naturium makes it easy to find the ingredients, products and routines that are right for you. Turn consistency into a habit you can keep with luxurious dermatologist tested formulas at accessible prices. I love Naturium. I use a lot of Naturium. I actually really love their multi bright milky toner. It's got rice water in it and it has a lot stuff that helps brighten your skin and also just makes my skin feel the exact right amount of moisturized. Give your skin the affordable luxurious glow up it deserves. Go to naturium.com casuals for 10% off of your first purchase today. That's naturium.com casuals.

[C]

Are you really buying a car online on autotrader right now? Really? At a playground? Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Your search can really get that specific.

[A]

Really?

[C]

And you just put in your info and boom. Car's in your budget. Mom needs a second honey.

[A]

You can really have it delivered.

[C]

Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership.

[A]

One sec sweetie. Mommy's buying a car. Mommy, look. I think your kid is walking up the slide.

[C]

Kyle. Again? Really?

[A]

Auto trader?

[C]

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[C]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

Her book. I've already mentioned this in your intro, but her book is out now. Fully Baked A Messy Memoir. I'm listening. Listening to it on audiobook you are which I love that you do. The voicing of it like sometimes people have other people read it.

[C]

Yeah, I, well, it was contract. I was contractually obligated. But it was also the fact that I, I don't want to read. Like, I don't like reading. Yeah. So I, I, the, honestly, the, it was the first time that I'd read my book from beginning to end where like. Because I would edit it, you know, but like, I wasn't reading. I was like, I'm not gonna read a whole book today about me. Yeah, about me that I already wrote. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to read that much, you know, which is kind of pathetic because I'm a writer.

[A]

It is where we're at.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nobody's reading.

[C]

I'm like, why would I read? I got my phone. Yeah, I got my phone.

[A]

Make it a short clip. I can scroll through.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

And then I'll consume.

[C]

Make it something that turns my brain off.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I don't want to.

[A]

But you read, you read your whole book directly into my ears. And I appreciate that.

[C]

Yeah, I did that.

[A]

That part of me thought it was cuz you wouldn't want somebody else to have to read about your life to other people.

[C]

That's also true.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That also be weird to have a man be like. And then I found out that my grandfather married my grand dead grandmother's best friend.

[C]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

Shocked me while I was walking my dog.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

Shocked me.

[C]

Shocked me. I didn't know about it. I didn't know about it until like three years ago.

[A]

That's crazy. Crazy.

[C]

And then to find out about it from like a journalist was pretty nuts.

[A]

Insane.

[C]

You know, like it was really a while.

[A]

There's also a part in there where you, you find out that your grandmother. No one told your grandmother she was dying of cancer. Yeah, she just, you know, she just told the husband, your grandfather, and then he was like, why would I burden her with such knowledge?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, she's already dying crazy. Which, Crazy. To be fair, she was already dying, which is kind of tough I get.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

As fair as you could be, you know, she's got enough going on.

[C]

She's got a lot going on.

[A]

Why let her know what it is that's going on? You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah, let's let her just sort of blindly find her way through this.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Let her just go, why does it hurt so much?

[C]

Is my, my life so painful?

[A]

Why am I so tired?

[C]

Yeah, but that's like Waspy. Yeah.

[A]

Just a wild thing having to go back through and Learn about your life in order to write about it. But I'm enjoying.

[C]

Oh, thanks.

[A]

I hate to say it is making me laugh.

[C]

Oh, good.

[A]

But it is.

[C]

That's really good.

[A]

I know. That is the goal. It.

[C]

It was. It was. Well, it started out as the goal, and then I was like. I don't know if any of this is funny.

[A]

You've had a tough life, Rosebud. You've had a tough. But you've also had a charmed life. You've got. It's a little bit of both.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[C]

Yeah. It's a life. You know what I mean?

[A]

It's interesting. And that's all that matters for a book. Yeah, it's interesting.

[C]

Good.

[A]

How's the press been? That's what I hear is the nightmare part about writing a book is you gotta go around talking about your book.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All the time.

[C]

Yeah. That part's tough. But it's. It's not the worst. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I. I feel like you got to do the same thing for a special, you know, And a book is like. At least you get to kind of get into it. You don't have to, like, just keep it about the bits and the. You know, it doesn't have. You don't have to be so on.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is kind of nice because that's exhausting. Like, having to be on all the time is like. Even though it is, like, our job. It is your job. Yeah.

[A]

And you're very good at it.

[C]

But I don't want to do a job.

[A]

No.

[C]

Nobody wants to fucking work.

[B]

Nobody does.

[C]

Right.

[A]

There's too much going on in the world to work.

[C]

I know.

[A]

We all should just be allowed to be on vacation. I think.

[C]

I agree. I agree.

[A]

But what I do is I retreat into sports. Do you? Let's talk about. Let's start at establishing Rosebud's fandom of sports. What is your relationship with the world? And it can be as little or as much as you want. There's no judgment at casuals.

[C]

Okay, good.

[A]

The whole point is you can just casually appreciate sports. The only thing that's tough is if you hate them entirely.

[C]

I don't hate sports at all.

[A]

Sick.

[C]

What I do love about sports, and this is kind of like the depths of my understanding of it, is just like watching a city that I live in go nuts. Like, for one thing, because there's this lack of kind of monoculture now. There's no. Nobody seems to be, like, clued into what is happening around them. Unless, like, a building Is falling in Midtown.

[A]

Sure. Yes.

[C]

Right. So. So you kind of. You look for these things to kind of bring people together. And hopefully it's not a building collapsing. Hopefully it's the Knicks. You know, so I get my appreciation of sports sort of begins and ends there, where it's like, if. If we're about to win a championship or like the playoffs or then I get really psyched.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's. I'm the kind of sports fan that real sports fans. Fans can't stand.

[A]

Well, it. That. I guess stereotypically that real sports fans can't stand. I. Real sports fan.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Appreciate a fan like that. I think part of sports. My favorite thing about sports is the community of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it. Bringing people in. And so if it takes the Knicks on a crazy run, bringing the city together to bring you in, you're in.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you watch any of the games or do you just go to, like, the.

[C]

I did.

[A]

Yeah. See, so you're. That counts to me. You put in your time.

[C]

I don't know which games they were. Like. I don't know. Game four. Cause we. We did it in five. Right. So I watched games three, four, and five.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So that was. That was it.

[A]

Yeah. You watched the one that Trump made them lose.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And then you watched the crazy comeback in the.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He really spit on the birthday candles. I feel like.

[A]

Yeah. And he, like, also shut the whole area down. Turned the whole thing into a. I know.

[C]

Fell asleep. It was like, such a bummer.

[A]

So crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I love the Knicks. I'm a lifelong Knicks fan.

[C]

I know.

[A]

It's like at the game.

[C]

You dick.

[A]

Come on, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't tape them open.

[C]

Tape them open.

[A]

Pretend.

[C]

Get some Scotch tape and keep those suckers open.

[A]

No. Poor Kai Trump sitting there.

[C]

Like, I know he's asleep again. I know it'd be better to have Mitch McConnell because at least when he dies, his eyes stay open. You know what I mean? At least. Like, we've watched him, like, die in front of us.

[A]

I was gonna say. Is he. Isn't he.

[C]

I. I think probably that time of

[A]

recording, I feel as though he's dead. But we're not saying.

[C]

Yeah, we're not saying it. But it's not like he hasn't died before.

[A]

True. It's true.

[C]

And come back.

[A]

He just won't rest in peace.

[C]

Yeah. He sort of stalls out.

[A]

Undertaker coming back.

[C]

Yeah. He just stops sick. Yeah.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

They should have sent Mitch is what I'm saying. Because his eyes would stay open. And he'd at least look like he was watching the game.

[A]

Did you go to the parade for the Knicks?

[C]

I didn't.

[A]

No. That's okay.

[C]

That was not.

[A]

It was a nightmare. Apparently people tried to. Our producer, Isabella, who you just met and were very sweet with in the room, she.

[C]

That's my meeting someone voice.

[A]

I heard. I heard Rosebud's meeting someone voice and it was like, hi, nice to meet you.

[C]

Way off.

[A]

I was like, who's that?

[C]

That's not Rosebud.

[A]

That's not the Rosebud I know.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. It goes about four octaves higher.

[A]

It was convincing. I thought you were a whole different person.

[C]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

But anyway, Isabella tried to go. She lives in Jersey. She woke up way early, took the train in, and they wouldn't let her. Like, they were already shutting it down to people. So fair enough that he didn't go.

[C]

Yeah, I wanted to and. But that was before I understood really what it was going to be. I. I told someone that I was going to. I was like, I think I'm going to take Minnow to the parade. And they were like, why?

[A]

Was her daughter.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, why would you do that?

[A]

How old is Minnow now?

[C]

She's two and a half.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's.

[C]

No, she's almost three. She'll be three in October.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's been that long.

[C]

I know. Yeah.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

It's so insane.

[A]

So insane. I feel like you just had that baby.

[C]

I know. She's going to be like. I look at her and I'm like, I got to get her into wrestling or something.

[A]

I was going to ask, is she going to do sports?

[C]

I hope so. I hope so. Just to avoid, you know, I'd like to steer her away from anything entertainment related. And she does, like, attention, so I feel like sports is better. Yeah. I don't know. Couldn't be me. But I do feel like if she. She could get the attention in that realm.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And actually do. Well, she's extremely strong.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, she's.

[A]

She's got baby strength.

[C]

She's huge. And she's. I mean, I'm five foot three. She's three foot five. So, like, she comes up to, like, here on me and when she, like, steps on my foot, like, it genuinely hurts. Yeah. Ruins your whole day. Yeah. And toddlers love to step on your feet. They just like to do it recreationally rude. So, you know, about 12 times a day, I'm like, I think I broke a toe.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Minnow's got you on the il.

[C]

She's got me on the ropes.

[A]

Yeah. It's not fair. What sport? If you could pick, what sport would you get her into?

[C]

I think I. Look, I don't want her to get hurt, but I do feel like having a daughter who's, like, in MMA would be sick. It would be sick.

[A]

It could be scary.

[C]

It could be. I mean. Yeah.

[A]

To teach your daughter to fight.

[C]

There's no way that I would be able to do it as a mom, but, like, the concept of it is awesome. Awesome.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But I think she. I think she'd do well. Like, I. I don't know which sports require just like a big. Like a, you know, a tank.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe she could. She could do, like, Olympic weightlifting.

[C]

She could definitely do that. Yeah, definitely.

[A]

She could also sturdy. One of those track and field sports, Like a shot put or something.

[C]

Yep. She could do shot put. She looks like a sturdy. She looks like a shot put bitch.

[A]

Yeah, she could.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

She got a strong base.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And she could just spin and launch it.

[C]

Yeah. I could see her with, like, a tight bun.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And a thick neck. Yeah. What about rugby? Yeah. You know what I mean?

[A]

Oh, what about rugby? Rugby's a good one.

[C]

Rugby would be sick also. Like Alana Mars perfect excuse to move to Europe.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

So.

[A]

And you'd go with her. You could be a sports mom. You could be like that, kind of bringing the orange slices to whatever it is that she's playing.

[C]

And I think rugby. Mom. Moms, listen. I don't know. I'm talking out of my ass here, but it seems like they would be akin to hockey moms. Yeah. And I could see that kind of energy going on already now.

[A]

A hockey mom scares me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think it's because I was raised by one.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But a hockey mom can. Can get into pretty dangerous territory pretty quickly.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

But that's usually of a hockey boy if you've got a hockey girl. I think hockey girl moms are probably cool as hell because they've got the good qualities of a hockey boy mom and none of those bad qualities, which are the usual. My son can do no wrong is perfect, and I'll defend him, and no woman will ever be good enough for him.

[C]

See, I'm hearing you, and I'm going, those are all of my qualities.

[A]

Yeah, but she's a girl, so it's different.

[C]

I agree. You know, I will say that, like, I have. I took my kid to, like, this July 4th thing, right. And she came off the moon bounce. Crying. And she was like. She was like, somebody pushed me. And I was like, where is he? I was taking my shoes off and I was like, where is he? And I'm putting. My sister comes over. She's like, laughing. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm getting. I was like, where's the kid? And I'm climbing into a children's moon bounce.

[A]

No. And now is this like a bouncy castle? It's like an enclosed space. That's bouncy.

[C]

Yes, a bouncy castle, but it had, like two walls. So there was like a bouncy wall.

[D]

Whoa.

[C]

Right? So I just did again. I threw myself over the wall, found this kid. I was like, don't go over there. I was like, don't go over there. Don't touch that girl.

[A]

How old was the kid?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Was it girl or a boy?

[C]

Boy, yeah.

[A]

And just like around Minnow's age or. I'm hoping it's not like a 13 year old.

[C]

No, no, no. I think probably between the ages of like 7 and 10.

[A]

It's very murky. I never know.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

A kid's either a newborn to me, a newborn or a teenager. And in between, I go, how the fuck?

[C]

Who knows? Yeah, yeah. It could be anything. So I just. But, yeah, I was ready to fight that child.

[A]

I think that's the right instinct. I don't think you're supposed to say that like Rosebud. I like that you've tried to fight that kid. I don't think you're supposed to say that.

[C]

No.

[A]

But it is how I feel.

[C]

It's how I feel, too.

[A]

That's why I'm not around kids.

[C]

I'm not reading any parenting books, so. None.

[A]

Nothing.

[C]

Nothing.

[A]

I mean, really, it's the scariest part to me, if I may pick your brain as a lady with a kid, because I'm never doing it. It's not happening.

[C]

Good for you.

[A]

Just, no, no manual. They give you nothing. And I. When I got a dog for the first time during the pandemic, I buried myself in, like, books and reading.

[C]

I did the same thing for dogs.

[A]

And then I, like, started with Myrtle and went like, well, that's all out the window. And I, you know, whatever I feel like my fear is with a baby, I would have done the same thing. It's felt like I need to know what everybody has ever learned.

[C]

Well, how many siblings do you have?

[A]

One older brother.

[C]

Oh, okay. That's Different. Yeah. Maybe you would have then. I don't know.

[A]

What do you have?

[C]

I have four young sisters. Yeah, so.

[A]

So you probably raised them a little. Were like, were you parentified?

[C]

Yeah, I was a nanny. I was like, a parentified kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, I'm not gonna read a book that's gonna teach me something that

[A]

you don't already know.

[C]

That I don't already know. But, like, also, I tend to, like, I tend to resent advice. So I just.

[A]

That's why Justin Silver and I don't get along, because he tried to tell me how to train my dog, and I was like, no.

[C]

Yeah, you, like, beat it. I can't even do an exercise class. I can't do. I'll be like, tell me what to do. I'll be in the midd. I'm like, I signed up for this, and I'm pissed that you're telling me what to do. So what? Who's the crazy person?

[A]

Especially when they go, and if this is too hard for you, do the modified. I'm like, how dare you? Nothing's too hard for me. Meanwhile, she's like, I'm just trying to help.

[C]

Yeah. Just giving you options how to do it easier.

[A]

Okay. So no books. You just went into it, you had the baby, and then you went, here I am with the baby.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, this is what I'm. Look, it's my kid, you know? Like, who's gonna know better than me? And if I fuck up, which I will, like, I'll find out.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

I'll find out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And at some point, and you change course. You fucking course. Correct. It might be too late. Who knows? It's just one of those things where it's like, there's no perfect way to do this.

[A]

I know.

[C]

You know, there's definitely a wrong way to do it.

[A]

I feel like there's way more wrong ways than right ways and as small wrong ways and big wrong ways, and you just hope you land among the small wrong ways.

[C]

Yeah. And as a mom, also, there's. There's, like, truly no way to be a good mom. Like, there's no way to be a good mom, because no matter what you do, people will be like, that's wrong. That's wrong. That's wrong. So I'm just like, fuck you. I'm gonna raise her how I want and go get fucked.

[A]

Yeah. And that's parenting advice with Rosebud Baker. You're right. Honestly, I think part of it is, like, scrolling on Social media. I'm not my in. My algorithm wants me to have a kid so bad.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I am not immune to the, like, pushing of the, you know, parent type content and mom content. And so much of the time it's like a bunch of people screaming at a lady for the way she put her kid in a car seat.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, I wouldn't be able to withstand the scrutiny of every little thing I would do with my child.

[C]

No. It's so infuriating.

[A]

I know. How do you, like, not let any of that get infect your brain?

[C]

You don't have to put your kid on the Internet.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Maybe you shouldn't.

[C]

You know, that's one option.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, shouldn't what? You know, I guess. But like, sometimes you. Your kid, you're like, I don't know. It's a cute picture. I want to put it on the Internet. Yeah. Do whatever you want. You know what I mean? I'm like, live your life. But I just. Yeah. I just am like, if I. If there's anything about this that's going to be picked apart, I'm not going to put it it up, you know?

[A]

That sucks. You have to check everything down like that, though.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[A]

But that's the world now, right? That's how it works.

[C]

I do the same thing with myself.

[A]

True. So it's like a service you'll do for your daughter anyway.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she can pay me for it later.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. She can say thank you and whatever.

[C]

She's a crewing interest. It is in true WASP tradition.

[A]

I've got a. She's got a running tab and I will give it to her I. Her 16th birthday.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Your parents got made. You wanted you to get into sports. Right. That was the. That's why I ask about if you're going to make Minnow get into sports, because didn't they try to get you.

[C]

They tried to get me to do soccer. They tried to get me to do lacrosse. I was like, pretty hopeless at both. I am athletic, but I just can't. I don't have the competitive. My competitive spirit doesn't really apply to sports. For some reason, I can't. I can't make myself care about winning. If I'm winning, if I'm not, this one getting all the credit.

[A]

Okay, that's. I mean, that's like very tennis mindset. You should have. Maybe they should have put you in tennis.

[C]

I know, right?

[A]

It's like an individual you could go individual.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And then all your wins are your wins. The negative side is that all your losses are also your lot. It's your fault.

[C]

True.

[A]

Which I don't deal with that well in sports. That's where I failed. Is if, like, it was my fault.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I didn't like that. I did like the credit.

[C]

I can deal with it being my fault if it's just me. Me. But if it's, like. If it's my fault that the whole team lost, then I, like, lose it. Then I'm like, oh, this is so embarrassing. I know. So I. I mean, I tried, but, like. And I loved. I liked soccer.

[A]

It's a lot of running.

[C]

It was a lot of running, and I don't love to run. So they put me as goalie because I was, like, a chubby kid.

[A]

Damn, goalie's tough.

[C]

It is tough.

[A]

Big net.

[C]

It is tough. Also. You got to watch the game.

[A]

I know.

[C]

And I didn't. I didn't. I didn't watch the game.

[A]

I don't like doing that.

[C]

So I was, like, a shitty goalie. I was also short. That's tough. And I was also, like, kind of slow, like, just because I wasn't watching the game. So that went out the window.

[A]

Needless to say, it didn't work out.

[C]

Didn't work out. I did love those fucking orange slices.

[A]

That's the best part.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I loved the pizza party.

[C]

The Capri Suns, the orange slices, the pizza parties.

[A]

Pizza parties. I really enjoyed it was the social aspect of it. I really enjoyed.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And when I played softball, the change. I was good at the, like, team spirit. Getting everybody hyped up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I guess you could relate to because you did cheer.

[C]

I did, like, soccer ball, but I never played it, like, on a team. But I remember too late playing it in, like, gym and stuff, where I'm like, there's so much downtime.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And that part is awesome.

[A]

It's really nice. And the running is in little short spurts.

[C]

Short spurts. Yeah.

[A]

It's kind of nice.

[C]

That's. And you get one moment, and it's like your time to shine, and then

[A]

you get to wait for the other. The other ones to go.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Until you have to get back up again. And you could just orange slice that whole time.

[C]

That whole time you're orange slicing hard on the side.

[A]

I know.

[C]

You know, but that. And then. And then lacrosse, where I. I was. I was into lacrosse because you got to wear, like, a skirt. And I liked that. That I got to Wear, like, a little skirt.

[A]

Cute little skirt. You had a cute fit. That's fair. That's fine.

[C]

I really liked wearing the skirt. And then the. And then the. The socks. I was like, ooh, I'm like a sexy, sexy. Yeah, I'm like Britney Spears and sporty at the same time. So I liked that. But then I fucking broke both my arms.

[A]

What?

[C]

Before playing what were like. Like getting further into the season, I think I, like, practiced. I think I did, like, three weeks of practice and broke both my arms.

[A]

Left and right, left and right.

[C]

Same time, same spot, same time, same time.

[A]

What happened?

[C]

I was. I was. I was trying to. My sister and I were roller skating, and we were, like, going down this hill, and she was going down, like, brakes on the whole time. And I was like, that sucks. Like, that's not.

[A]

All gas, no brakes.

[C]

All gas, no brakes, you know? And then I did. Whoops. All gas. And I. I don't know what happened, but I was, like, flying through the air. Like, something hit my skate. I'm flying through the air. I think I flipped and I landed on both. Both of my. My wrists and broke both my arms. Like, right before eighth grade. Like, your forearm, like, it was like this bone and. And here. Oh, my God. And then. And then. And then this one, too, I think. I don't know. It's hard to tell where it's broken because I did run. I forgot that my arms were broken, and I jumped in a pool. And so they healed wrong. Like, they healed. Like, they're. They're like, a little bit offset. You can see it.

[A]

I can see it.

[C]

You can see it. It's like somebody drew me bad, you know? It's fucked up looking.

[A]

What's the. Do you have two casts?

[C]

I had two casts on.

[A]

What a crazy way. How old were you?

[C]

I was going into eighth grade.

[A]

Going into eighth grade. Double cast.

[C]

Double cast.

[A]

I'll tell you what. In 8th grade, I didn't have enough friends to fill two casts. Signatures.

[C]

It was a rough start. It was a rough start, and this was why I jumped into this pool. Cause, like, I got invited to a friend's house, and I was like, oh, shit. I still got friends. All right. I got two broken arms, but I still got friends. And I get there, and everybody's jumping in the pool at my friend's house, and I was so wrapped up in, like, everybody's having fun. I gotta be part of the fun. And I jumped in, and as I hit the water, I was. Was like, no. Like, I remembered.

[A]

And Oops I'm not supposed to get these wet at all.

[C]

Exactly. And just was like, I'm not going to tell my parents, and I'll. I'll just let them.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you didn't tell your parents?

[C]

I didn't tell my parents.

[A]

Holy.

[C]

And they just healed up.

[A]

Wait, did they smell crazy?

[C]

They smelled crazy. Oh, my God, they smelled crazy.

[A]

Wait, also, what does it look like to shower when you have two arms in cast?

[C]

I was. I had to put, like, plastic bags over them.

[A]

I just picture your arms both out of the shower curtain.

[C]

I know. I had one cast that was, like, up to here, and one was just up to here. So I did have, like, the one hand that was kind of. I could bend an elbow and, like, sort of scrub. But it was. It was rough.

[A]

And that ruined your lacrosse career, which could have been hugely.

[C]

Could have been amazing. Yeah.

[A]

You could have been really successful.

[C]

We'll never know.

[A]

I'm really desperate for you to tell me because I don't believe it written in this that you cheerleaded. I can't picture you cheerleading for the life of me. I really can't.

[C]

Well, I was benched from the cheerleading squad twice. And then eventually either quit or kicked off. I wasn't. I can't honestly remember. Yeah, but too painful. Yeah. It's all. It's really traumatic. No, I did. I got. I got benched for one time was for smoking weed. And the other time was like. I made fun of this girl who, like, I was like. I was just like, you're fucking ugly.

[A]

Jesus, Rose.

[C]

And they were like. You know what I mean? It was like she came at me, and then I didn't. I didn't have anything. So I just went too hard.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You know, I was just like, well, you're fucking ugly.

[D]

Damn.

[C]

You know, and your face is. I don't know.

[A]

You kept going.

[C]

I got specific.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

And, yeah, it wasn't nice.

[A]

Not good.

[C]

So they were like, you can't cheer this week. And I was like, oh, no. Oh, I can't. I can't cheer. You know?

[A]

Did you. You weren't like. Were you flipping.

[C]

Yeah, I was the flyer. The.

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's scary to me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That you have no fear of that. You just were like, throw me whatever.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, I don't care. Live or die.

[A]

A lot of trust in other high school students.

[C]

I don't know if it was trust. I really think it was, like, a general kind of existential malaise. Ah. That I was born with.

[A]

Have, like, Toss me, whatever. You want to drop me? Fine.

[C]

Yeah. I won't even feel it.

[A]

I broke both of these ones.

[C]

I broke both of these. Never told a soul. There, they healed all messed up. I'm still here, you know. It'll break another limb.

[A]

Crazy. Did you guys. Pom poms? You used pom poms? I mean, so did we. On dance team.

[C]

We had.

[A]

We went. We. We. We did a lot of the cheer esque movements.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But we. We kept our. It is hard, though.

[C]

Yeah, it is hard, right? Like dance team is hard.

[A]

Yes. And thank you for finally acknowledging.

[C]

I'm sorry, but like, smart. You're right. I watched that.

[A]

Did you watch that?

[C]

Dallas Cheerleaders?

[A]

I started to. I watched the beginning of season one.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I didn't watch. I hear the drama this season is that a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader is dating a Philadelphia Eagle and they are division rivals. And I feel like.

[C]

Like it's Romeo and Julia.

[A]

I know. It's like Capulets and Montagues.

[C]

How did they die?

[A]

How do you guys even know each other? Where. How did you meet? This isn't okay. And then he came out and said, there's no conflict of interest, cuz she doesn't play the sport. And it was like, at least play along with a bit.

[C]

What are we doing?

[A]

Obviously we know.

[C]

Give us. Give us a minute.

[A]

It's just like funny drama.

[C]

Yeah, we're just looking for a.

[A]

We were looking for a through line.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How dare you. Why did you do this?

[C]

Right?

[A]

Oh, she doesn't play football. Oh, you're not discussing the. The strategies with her.

[C]

Right? Okay.

[A]

We know Cooper. We know.

[C]

Is that his name?

[A]

Cooper De Jean. Okay, you may have heard it only because he was also rumored to be dating for a while, one of the Bella twins from the wwe.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the Bella twins. I've met them. They're great. They're awesome.

[A]

They're so great. Yeah, we love them. While we're talking about drama, I figured since you might be. I was like, you know, Rosebud might be light on the spot. Sports. But if we can find a sports drama, she might be in on this. Oh, can I tell you something I found on social media this week?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This was when I went to the gym. That's right. I went to the gym yesterday and.

[C]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[A]

It's why I do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's why I go down there for 15 minutes and I put in the work.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Because I want this.

[C]

That's right. And you deserve It.

[A]

I want these.

[C]

Look at those things.

[A]

I know. Isn't that crazy? Don't mess with me.

[C]

Look at those things.

[A]

But then look at these things too. It's like that's why I'm down there. Well, that's why I'm trying to get rid of this.

[C]

Don't do any of that. I know.

[A]

It's like whenever I wave, it's like someone, it's like I go, hello.

[C]

Yeah, I go like, hi. Hi. I look like I'm like honking a tit. Hi.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

So while I'm at the gym and, and, and really sometimes people I know will come back from the gym and go, this lady at the gym was scrolling her phone the whole time. And I go easy on that lady because that's me. Yeah, it's usually me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And while I was scrolling on my phone, I happened to catch a picture post that got deleted very quickly. So there's this guy named Jacob Toby. He is the play by play announcer for the San Antonio spurs, the basketball team. He's their TV announcer guy. And he posted or it was posted on his Instagram story the following. This is my girlfriend of six years, but I cheated on her with Lauren Waters at Lauren K. Water Waters. So feel free to continue following me if you really think I'm a good guy because I'm not. Oh my smiley face.

[C]

God.

[A]

And then so I assumed that was probably posted by his girlfriend. Then the next post was this photo of a photo booth printout that has three pictures and in the third picture he is kissing Lauren K. Waters and this girl. This, the post says me and the new girl, Lauren K. Waters. And so this was posted in the morning and then deleted.

[C]

Oh my God. I'm obsessed with his girlfriend.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And then there was a post on her Instagram and she wrote, this is his now ex girlfriend. I was visiting his family with him for two weeks. We were on day three when I found out about him and Lauren. He woke up and his parents made him take down the story. So that's why these were deleted. Stay safe out there, ladies. You can be six years in. Visiting grandparents one hour and sleeping in bed the next as at his family home. And they will still cheat with a smiley face. A lot of smiley faces in here.

[C]

Yes, they will.

[A]

Isn't that. I wanted to know your thoughts on this piping hot sports tea.

[C]

First of all, I'm really obsessed with a girlfriend.

[A]

A little messy.

[C]

I'm really into whatever she's up to. Yeah, like yeah, a hundred percent.

[A]

You're Supportive of the mess.

[C]

100% of supportive of the mess. Like do that, do that. Because they should be afraid to cheat. You know what I mean?

[A]

They never seem to be.

[C]

They never are. But if we did this more.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Then you know what I mean? If we weren't so afraid of being called crazy.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe they drilled into our brains. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

From a very young age.

[C]

So. And they're gonna call you crazy anyway. So just do this, kind of do this. Do this.

[A]

Because if you don't do this, you won't be spared. You're still gonna be crazy.

[C]

Still gonna be crazy.

[A]

You did was crazy.

[C]

Go earn it. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[A]

It's like when a. When a manager gets kicked out of a baseball game.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They say he gets his money's worth. That once the ump kicks you out, you curse the ump out. Because it's like if you're getting kicked out, get your money worth.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is. That's what. That's what this is. Maybe.

[C]

Yeah. A hundred percent. And years.

[A]

Six years.

[C]

I mean. Yeah. Yeah. That's not surprising to me at all. I.

[A]

That's.

[C]

I love that she. That she found the pictures, put it up. I love that she added the other girl.

[A]

I like that. You can tell my favorite details. You can tell the pictures. The photo booth pictures are laid out on the bed. On the bed. She found them, dropped them.

[C]

She took the picture while he was still asleep.

[A]

Can I tell you one more juicy detail?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The girl that he's kissing, the. The next girlfriend, the one he cheated with.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Is the sister of one of the players on the San Antonio Spurs. Oh, I know.

[C]

Okay. So it was a workplace.

[A]

It's like a little added a little

[C]

bit of a workplace.

[A]

And this is all alleged based off of these posts?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, not workplace romance, but like a workplace something.

[A]

It was a work wife because oftentimes the work wife, which used to be, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Some cute idea. A lot of times, times that got ruined because people would cheat on their real wife.

[C]

I'm confused about what this one is.

[A]

So that's a comment. I've basically been in a second relationship with her, I guess. I think Lauren is my next girlfriend. I didn't see that. This one is from our producers, but I think that was probably still his now ex girlfriend posting on his account.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I guess.

[A]

I think commented like, I guess I'm. I guess that's my next girlfriend.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She was clearly a little upset.

[C]

Whoo. I love it.

[A]

Yeah. I think if I ever did this. I think I would the next day wake up and go, I shouldn't have done that.

[C]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

Only because of the mess.

[C]

No, I would do it like 30 minutes later. But, but, and, and every friend that I know would call me and be like, what are you doing? Yeah, but I would.

[A]

That's a good friend, by the way.

[C]

That is a good friend.

[A]

I do want a friend that can

[C]

go like, hey, hey, him you're popping off.

[A]

Let's. Let's handle this in house.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's. But also, I am kind of like, I do like to be. I'm like, let me off the leash. You know what I mean? Let me off the leash for a second. I got some to say.

[A]

Got to air this out.

[C]

I want to air this out.

[A]

Let me air it out.

[C]

And it's fun. Have you ever. Have you ever really, like, like, let it loose?

[A]

No, I don't. This, this is terrible for me to realize. I don't think I have.

[C]

Oh my God, Katie. It's amazing.

[A]

I don't think I've ever.

[C]

It's amazing.

[A]

Really aired anybody's anything.

[C]

It's amazing. If you ever, you know, I, I mean, you're in a per. You're in a great relationship. You're like, you're happy. It's too bad. But like, if you. But like, I don't know, if you have a run in with one of your exes and they pull some, you know, I. I'm just saying, like, it, it does feel good. It does feel good to just be like. Cuz guys will be like, how could you do this to me? And you're just. All you're doing is like making what they did, saying what they did to you. And it's. It's like I'm. Oh, I can't tell you how I'm dealing with this in my life right now. And I'm like, you know what I mean? I'm. I'm hanging on by a thread. But the thread is Freddie and the

[A]

thread at the end of that thread is that you will start airing it out.

[C]

I'm gonna lose it one day. I'm really trying to. I'm talking myself off the ledge.

[A]

You're doing a good job.

[C]

I do feel at this point in my life that I'm like, I should get some sort of award for the shit that I'm not saying.

[A]

I think that's most. I'm trying to decide if I would say people or women. But I do feel like a lot of us are like, I'm being the bigger person. At some point, I do need a little compensation.

[C]

I do. Yeah. I agree.

[A]

At some point, I would like a little bit of cash.

[C]

Yeah. Because. Because at the end of the day, the Internet is waiting for you to lose your mind publicly.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And it could help.

[A]

You could. But rarely. I feel.

[C]

I feel like the further we get into this, the Internet, you know what I mean? The worse the Internet gets and the more it takes over our lives. Oh, yeah. The more we're rewarded for our bad behavior.

[A]

Wild.

[C]

Yeah, it is. So I'm kind of like, if you're not doing it right now, you're sort of leaving money on the table.

[A]

That's a good point.

[C]

That's a good point.

[A]

Go fully. Go fully nuts.

[C]

Go nuts.

[A]

Or else, you know, you could be making a lot of money off of it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so what?

[C]

I love that she put it on her. On his. I know. Thing too.

[A]

I know. And. And I know. So we'll see what happens with the. He had just signed a. A contract too, so.

[C]

That's so exciting.

[A]

It's a. It's Rosebud's like. I will now be following the San Antonio spurs just to see what happen.

[C]

Absolutely Will be.

[A]

I should have dug up more stuff like this for you. I feel like I could make a sports fan out of you.

[C]

Well, I am kind of. You know, it's like the. It's the old joke of, like, reality TV is like my sports kind of, you know.

[A]

Yeah. Which actually, I don't know if you've noticed this, if this has come up in your algorithm at all, but all of the sports gambling. Sports has been taken over by sports gambling. And. And they're just. It's everywhere and it's everything. And these new calshi, like, predictive market are now working on getting women to waste their money on their services by gambling on reality television like Love island and other such shows.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I hate it.

[C]

Oh, we're gonna have some, like, degenerate gambler moms.

[A]

Isn't that crazy? I mean, look, equality. If we can have degenerate gambler dads, we should be able to have degenerate gambler moms. But I'd like us to not have people being preyed on for their injury interests.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And people being like, you like this show. Put your money into it.

[C]

I know. It's really bad.

[A]

It's like, what is it? Why there's so much other stuff.

[C]

They were doing it with the presidential election.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is great. They were Doing it with, like, will somebody die overseas in the war? It's like, I don't think. Yeah, we should be doing that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Crazy that the same people who are supportive of that are usually, like, being gay is not okay. I know, but I. I've got a hundred dollars on whether someone's gonna die. Kick in a bucket. Yeah. Crazy.

[C]

Yeah. Just living the most godless life you possibly can.

[A]

Like. No, but this. I should be. I'm within my rights to do this. It's a freedom of mine. Crazy, right? Speaking of, I guess your ex husband and sports and. And parades and celebrations. You were cheering, technically, for the Seahawks. I was when they won the Super Bowl. Is that over now? You're done with them?

[C]

I'm done with the Seahawks. They can go themselves.

[A]

He got them in the divorce.

[C]

Yeah, He. He can keep the Seahawks.

[A]

I love that. Actually, as a Patriots fan, which is who the Seahawks beat in the Super Bowl, I would love if you could just go full. The Seahawks.

[C]

I'll switch right now.

[A]

Nice. Hell, yeah.

[C]

I'll switch right now.

[A]

It was remarkably easy, and I love it.

[C]

I'll switch right now. I don't give a fuck.

[A]

Sick.

[C]

I. Yeah, I just. I mean, I was trying to be nice, to be honest.

[A]

Very kind of you.

[C]

I was really kind of there for the halftime show. I'm always there for the halftime show when it comes to.

[A]

It's a good halftime show.

[C]

If there's one game that I really just don't give a about, it's football.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

An un. A controversial opinion in America.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I'm proud of you for having it.

[C]

I'm sorry to say it.

[A]

What don't you like about it?

[C]

I just don't like it. I just find it unwatchable.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I just am, like, I don't. You know, I. Is it impressive? Am I impressed by the sport? Of course. And I'm. I'm crazy impressed by the athleticism of it. I get that people are crazy fans and that they. And I understand that it's, like, fun to watch and that it's like an American pastime. It's just something that doesn't. It doesn't blow my tits off, you know? Totally.

[A]

Oh, yeah, totally. Tits firmly attached.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just.

[A]

But the halftime show blew your tits right off.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Did you see it? Got nominated for more Emmys than any halftime show has ever been nominated for.

[C]

Yeah. Which is, I honestly think is kind of crazy because I thought Kendricks was.

[A]

I also. Yeah, I liked his as well.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I actually don't. I didn't know you could.

[C]

Equally as good.

[A]

I didn't know you could get an Emmy nomination for a halftime show. I actually didn't know that until.

[C]

I didn't know that either. But it does make sense today.

[A]

Yeah, it makes sense. Nine Emmys. Yeah. Kind of amazing. It was outstanding Variety special, live production design for a variety special, special choreography for Variety. Or it seems like all the ones that they give away. Not on the broadcast.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now that I'm reading them. Technical direction and camera work for a special, directing for a variety special, hairstyling for a variety non fiction or reality program, and lighting design. Lighting direction for a special. But congrats to Bad Bunny.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, the lighting was crazy.

[A]

The whole thing was, like, very interesting. I loved the way it, like, told a story. I feel like I. I saw people who felt their culture reflected in it. So happy. They were like, so, like, oh, my God. A kid sleeping at a wedding. That is absolutely something you see all the time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I just thought that was really cool.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know why. That gave me goosebumps. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It was like. It really was really sweet. They also. That couple got married during it. It was like a whole. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I know. It was really cool. And I thought people were so, so weird about it.

[C]

I know. They really were so weird.

[A]

They were like, grow up.

[C]

Like Jill from. Okay, well, this is my sports. But Real Housewives. Real Housewives. Did you see what she said?

[A]

Did Jill Zarin say something stupid?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I didn't see it.

[C]

She went nuts.

[A]

Maybe I did.

[C]

Maybe I did. She went nuts. And it was like, Jill, because she was about to be on the new E. Because they're doing like a reboot basically of Real Housewives of New York, but on E. Great. And with the OG Cast. And she just got booted from it, like, the next day.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

Because she doing you just crazy. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But they're all they do.

[C]

It's like, yeah, just save it. Just save it for when you're on the show. Cuz we're all waiting for you to say some wild.

[A]

Right at this point, a lot of reality TV is just like, let me watch these scumbags interact with each other.

[C]

All I want is to watch alcoholics fight each other.

[A]

Let me watch these rich bitches with all the money in their face.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Fight over the dumbest thing you've ever seen.

[C]

Fall into a bush, please. In what is my right.

[A]

Let me be entertained by the rich fun that they can have fighting over what bedroom they get in their expensive Hamptons house.

[C]

I want. I want visual proof that money does not lead to happiness, and I want to watch it every night.

[A]

I'd like your money to lead to my happiness, where I can just feel moderately superior to you getting in a fight with all of your friends. Speaking of Bad Bunny, this actually gets me into something I wanted to talk to you about because you were. I didn't realize you were done at SNL. I thought you were still over there. But 2022 to 2025, you were a writer on SNL. First of all, very quick review of what that job is like, because I bet that's. I hear that schedule is a nightmare.

[C]

Yeah. It's like making iPhones. It's like, it's crazy. You're, like, sleeping under your desk crazy. I mean, very rewarding.

[A]

She's very grateful. It was a great opportunity.

[C]

It's literally. It's the greatest practice for motherhood, too, because, like, like, it's so hard, but every time you say it, you have to be like, but I love it. I love it so much, and I'm so blessed.

[A]

Wouldn't change.

[C]

It's like, that's a given. You know what I mean? I, I. It is like, it's like getting paid to go to Harvard or something. It's awesome. But it was so hard, and it was like. But I also, like, I kind of miss it in this weird way where, like, I didn't miss it for, like, a year. Right. I missed the people, but I didn't miss the job. And now I'm kind of starting to miss the job a little bit.

[A]

It's like, that sounds reminiscent of bartending to me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where it's like, it's. It was a lot. Do you have dreams about working at snl? Because I still have bartending dreams where

[C]

I wake up, I'm like, no, I don't have dreams.

[A]

But it's like, you're in it. Your back hurts all the time. You're tired, the hours suck. Everybody is partying, and you're sober. And then. And then you get out of it, and you're like, thank God I'm out of it. And then a year later, you go, like, I miss mixing it up. I miss being there. I miss touching it.

[C]

I miss the drama of it. Yeah. Like, I kind of miss the chaos a little bit. And, like, the. Just the. It's so much adrenaline. Yes. And it's wild and it's crazy, and it wears on Your body and your mind and your spirit. But it is fun. And when you're in it, you're kind of like. You forget that there's, like, a world outside of it. It's like gambling. You know what I mean? It's like when you're inside of a casino, you just can't. You don't feel.

[A]

It's just. They pump in the oxygen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what time it is, right? Keep going to the ATM. 100.

[C]

All of a sudden you're like, wait, I have a family. You know, you go back, your kid is two. You're like, oh, I just had you. Yeah. What's going on? It's. It was wild, but. But now I'm like. Now I'm starting to, like, miss the. You know.

[A]

Yeah, I get it.

[C]

I. If I spent a week there, I'd be like, get me the fuck out. Yeah.

[A]

I did one episode and now I'd like to be out of here. Yeah, but you were there when Bad Bunny was host and musical guest.

[C]

Was I?

[A]

It said so, yeah. October 21st of 2023.

[C]

I think I was.

[A]

You were probably technically there, maybe off.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I was. I was. I was there.

[A]

Wait, I was gonna see if you met him.

[C]

When was it? October of 2023. Yeah, I was on maternity leave.

[A]

That's what it was. So you missed it.

[C]

Yeah, that was like. I think that was the week that I gave birth, so.

[A]

Oh, damn. Yeah, that makes sense.

[C]

You took, like.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

How dare you take the week off. I know, I know, I know.

[A]

Women. We make too many concessions for you. Women in the workplace. This is why the right to vote.

[C]

Back in there, I should have. I should have given birth on the fucking studio floor. Like a. Like somebody who gave a shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

About their job. Yeah.

[A]

You don't care about SNL enough to have Lauren deliver the baby.

[C]

What? The props can't find a birthing ball?

[A]

I'm sure they have it.

[C]

They've got everything there, so obviously you don't care.

[A]

Yeah. Wow.

[C]

Wow. Wow, Rosie.

[A]

Wow. Were you there when? Timothy Chalamet. That was November of 2023, but also January of 2025.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think that would have been after you.

[C]

I think I came in. Maybe it was Timothy Chalamet. I can't remember. Yeah, Like, I really.

[A]

It must be like, every week you're like, I don't know.

[C]

I don't remember. No. If you ask anybody that works there who hosted last week? They'd be like, who hosted last week? They really won't. It's constant you're too tired to form new memories, right?

[A]

Fair enough.

[C]

That's what happens.

[A]

But there has to be an exception. Megan Thee, Stallion. Do you remember anything from when Megan Thee, Stallion was hosting?

[C]

I do remember. Meg Thee, Stallion. Yeah. She was awesome. And Keke Palmer was awesome.

[A]

I love Kiki. That's nice to hear that she's the person you think.

[C]

I really like her.

[A]

She's so charming.

[C]

I'm a endlessly charming, huge Keke Palmer fan. My algorithm is like a little nuts

[A]

with Kiki Palmer, but every time I go, thank you very much, Mr. Algorithm. This is exactly what I wanted.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's, like, so funny and interesting and beautiful and gorgeous and cheated on.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And Megan the Stallion. Same thing.

[C]

Well, listen, you know a man doesn't like when you're doing better than him, right? They don't like it.

[A]

And it also. I know it doesn't. It's not about the woman. It's about the man. A man who cheats. It's not because the woman isn't good enough. It's because the man has got an issue.

[C]

But it's not. He doesn't feel like a man.

[A]

It is extra devastating when it. You see it and you go, cute. Kiki Palmer. Megan the Stallion.

[C]

You know what sucks about it is it's like when a guy. When men make more money than us, we're psyched. We're like, get out there. Give me some.

[A]

Yes, let me have.

[C]

But when you reverse it, right, it's like they just get mad at you and then you're silent.

[A]

They're.

[C]

They're just silently mad at you. And you're like, having them be mad at you for making more money. It's like them.

[A]

You.

[C]

It's like being in the middle of sex and hearing them go like, oh, my God, I'm so lonely. You're. You're like, what?

[A]

I'm doing it right now.

[C]

You're in the solution. I'm giving you the solution. What do you want? You know what I mean? It's never enough. They'd rather be fucking broke than, like, have you make more money than them.

[A]

I know, it's crazy. And the part that makes it difficult is that it's like the patriarchy that is responsible for that.

[C]

It's hurting them.

[A]

And yet when you say that you're against the patriarchy, they just hear you're anti man. And there's no like. No, but I'm also against the. The parts that make you feel like shit. You have to be a certain way. Yeah. You need to make more that you need to be. You can't cry all the things in ways it harms you. I'm trying to stand up for you too. And they go just like, no, I'm gonna go actually sleep with your friend.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. No, thank you.

[A]

No, thank you. Travis Kelce.

[C]

Travis Kelce.

[A]

You remember when he hosted snl?

[C]

I do remember that.

[A]

Do you have any thoughts on that big wedding that just happened? We're putting it to bed. This is going to be the last, I think we speak of this wedding. I know there are people out there who are sick of it. I know there's people out there who love it. I think this will be the end of it. I just wanted to give you space if you had thoughts.

[C]

I got no thoughts on that.

[A]

I mean, no invite.

[C]

No invite.

[A]

How dare.

[C]

So upset.

[A]

How dare. Really upsetting. Really rude.

[C]

I mean, I really should have been there, right? I mean, we did pass each other in the hall a few times and that.

[A]

It seems to be enough. He invited Dean Blandino. I don't know if you know, you shouldn't know who Dean Blandino is.

[C]

Who is that?

[A]

He was the former head of officiating for the NFL who tried his hand at stand up comedy. I think he went two or three times. And then now.

[C]

How was he?

[A]

No good. And then now he's. Now he's like the guy that comes in on the football broadcast when they go like, let's bring in our rules expert, Dean Blandino.

[C]

Dean Blandino is the craziest name I know. The craziest, most made up name sounding name.

[A]

I know he got an invite, but nothing for Rosebud.

[C]

Nothing for Rosebud Baker, which also sounds like a made up name.

[A]

It does.

[C]

All right, well, you know, it's fine. You and Dean believe that's my biggest issue with it. No invite. But also, I wasn't in town, so I didn't, I didn't. I wasn't affected by the road closures or anything like that.

[A]

So it wasn't that bad. It was no worse than when with the Trump and the Knicks and the.

[C]

It wasn't like crazy, I, I would imagine it's. It's not that big.

[A]

It wasn't nuts. It was, it was just wild to see all the names that were invited.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I can't imagine being Nikki Glazer and getting invited to somebody. I'm such a huge fan of's wedding.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know what I would do. I feel like I would decline out of panic.

[C]

I know. I I.

[A]

What would I wear?

[C]

Freak out.

[A]

What would I. Who do I talk to?

[C]

What am I freak out? I'd freak out.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

I mean, I'm not like a huge Taylor fan. I. I know that that's like treasonous for some reason.

[A]

If you're mean to her, I think is treasonous. But you, it's okay to like what you like and not like what you don't like.

[C]

Yeah. I think she's really talented. But I'm like. And I do listen to that song Fortnite. Like, like crazy amount of. I'm like a repetition pig for that song. I just listen to it like over and over again.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The one with Post Malone. But yeah, everything. I'm not like a crazy Taylor fan.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I don't.

[A]

Swifty. Yeah, it's fine.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's your Taylor Swift? Like, who's your. What are you a Justin Bieber? Wow. I would. You could have given me 15 guesses.

[C]

Justin Bieber.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I'm obsessed. Obsessed, huh? I'm obsessed with Bieber.

[A]

So did you go nuts about Coachella?

[C]

I did, yeah. I cried. I cried when I watched it.

[A]

That's really sweet.

[C]

I will watch his. His Tiny Desk concert. Yeah. Like with my kid. Oh my God. My favorite thing was showing my kid early Bieber for the first time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like showing her videos of like early Bieber playing the drums and like Early Bieber, like when he had bangs. He did have bangs. He had bangs. He had like side bangs.

[A]

Swoopy fringe.

[C]

Yes. And. And watching her react to that was like so fun.

[A]

That's really cute.

[C]

Yeah, that's really cute.

[A]

Yeah, actually really like that. He actually his. I think it was on SNL that he did one of his performances. Made me cry.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It was the first I had heard that like slow song about him being like all alone and nobody loving him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I remember being like, whoa. I mean he does have such a gorgeous voice.

[C]

He's got an incredible voice. So talented.

[A]

I know. He really is so talented.

[C]

Yeah. He just was like, you know, chewed up and spit out. And I feel like, I feel like now he's kind of like he had a period of time where he like felt it was like a self pity thing, you know? And then it feels like now he's kind of grown up a little bit. I mean, I don't know. I think getting that famous does do damage to your brain.

[A]

It has to. It's like a drug. It's like doing drugs too young. You're like, there's nothing you can do. To reverse the damage.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They say that it's like an arrested development situation where whatever age you get famous is where your development sort of stops, stalls. And, like, I could see why that would be true.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I could see that making a lot of sense. Everybody paying attention to you, and everyone's

[C]

saying yes to you.

[D]

Ugh.

[A]

Yeah. It's like the good and the bad of that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I also. I used to always think this about Selena Gomez. Imagine you date the boy that every little girl wants to do. Date publicly at that age.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you go through a breakup. Like, going through a breakup when you're younger and nobody knows about it is the worst thing that's ever happened.

[C]

I know.

[A]

So, you know, I always had a lot of sympathy for her because of that.

[D]

It's.

[A]

You know, we do. We do. We're nasty to the famous people as a. As humans. We're not great.

[C]

Well, it's kind of like I was reading about that, like, with the anthropological, like, like, reasoning for that is like, you know, back in the day, we would, like, take. We would take one person, right? And we would, like, treat them like a God. Right. For. And we'd give them all the best clothes, and we give them all the best food, and we. We'd worship them. And it was all because at the end of the year, we were going to sacrifice them to God. Right. So we would just kill them.

[A]

Best year of your life.

[C]

Now we're gonna kill your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So I kind of feel like celebrity culture is like, an extension of that.

[A]

So what you're saying is you think we should start killing celebrities?

[C]

Of course.

[A]

At the end of the year, we take our most famous person and we kill them, obviously.

[C]

Right. Obviously.

[A]

That's how we fix it.

[C]

Where else would I be going with this?

[A]

Right? Of course.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I didn't say it. You said it.

[A]

Well, but you thought it. But it's your idea. I'm quoting Rosebud.

[C]

It is. I'm not disagreeing with your idea that you said first.

[A]

Well, you gotta do something. Time to start throwing out suggestions. You know, we got to solve this somehow. I'm not saying that's the one, but I'm not hearing any other suggestions of how we fix it. All right? The. The World Cup. You care about that at all? Have you been caring at all about soccer? Because America does not care about soccer, and Rosebud doesn't care too much about sports. So I'm not expecting that you've cared too much.

[C]

Listen, I. Soccer I. I don't. I don't.

[A]

Yeah. And that's okay.

[C]

I mean, it's easy to follow. Yeah, but it's easy to follow because they score 12 times per game, if that.

[A]

If you're lucky.

[C]

And I, I watched the World cup in Europe like last summer and I was, it was wild to see. Or maybe two summers ago, I can't remember. But I, I remember the whole bar like getting up and being like, whoa. And I'd be like, oh, they scored. And it was like, no, they almost scored. And I was like, this is ridiculous, you guys.

[A]

People feel joy, Rosebud.

[C]

They're standing up.

[A]

Let them feel excitement.

[C]

But it was like. And I realized I was so American of me to be like, if. Unless they've scored, unless they have a concrete step towards winning.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Why are we excited? You know, I, I'm a victim of, of capitalism, I guess. So I'm not a huge.

[A]

You don't care about the World Cup? Yeah, it's. Well, here's what I put together because I don't know if you know this, the United States did get knocked out of the World Cup.

[C]

I. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So it's over for us. And so now we're entering into the quarterfinals and a lot of people are like, well, who am I going to root for now? And so I thought in case you wanted to pick a team to root for, I've got some fun facts for every team that's left.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And then like, you know, maybe a player or two you might be interested in.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, I'm into that.

[A]

Okay. So we've got. First we've got France.

[D]

France.

[A]

Their superstar is Killian Mbappe. He has the second most goals in World cup history.

[C]

I do know about him young, so it's crazy.

[A]

He's already got 19 World cup goals.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

France is so good that there are 99 French born players across 13 other teams at the World Cup. That's how good France is.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Kind of neat. They're called Les Bleu.

[C]

Cute. Yeah.

[A]

And then just. Just apropos of nothing, here's one of the guys on the team, Michael Olise.

[C]

This is.

[A]

No.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

And that's just for you to know about.

[C]

Huh?

[A]

Just something you might.

[C]

And just for me to know about. And just to know about.

[A]

Just a player that's on France just

[C]

to know about and look at. Yeah.

[A]

So that's.

[C]

I mean, it'd be great if his mustache connected.

[A]

Oh, I didn't notice that till just now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that on purpose?

[C]

Can't be, huh? Can't possibly be.

[A]

Well, all right, on to the next. So then we've got Morocco. Morocco is still in the World Cup. I've learned through this World cup that Morocco not. Not beloved by the rest of its continent. Africa and Morocco, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think they get along as well as one.

[C]

Why is that?

[A]

I think Morocco thinks themselves more Europe.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I've learned through Twitter and watching people that like one team and don't like them.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Interact with each other. They became the first Africa to ever make the final eight in the. At the 2022 World cup and they now have become the second.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

They've got a grudge match coming up because they're playing against France. And Morocco was a protectorate of France before they gained their independence in 1956. Their team nickname is the Atlas Lions. And this is Shemsdean Tulby.

[C]

Ooh.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Just a guy who plays for the team that I thought maybe you'd want to take a look at. He's got pretty eyes, doesn't he?

[C]

He's got real pretty eyes, doesn't he? Yeah. Look at how I'm. Look at how I'm like, I'm. I'm literally going like, yeah, maybe I date him as if, you know, as if there's a shot in hell. No, he's. Yeah, right. Not bad. Not bad to look at.

[A]

And so that's Morocco.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Something to keep in mind. Now moving on, we also have Spain. Spain is the reigning European champion. The Euros. That might have been what you were watching when you were. Were in Europe. Cause that was in 2024.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Their star player is an 18 year old named Lamina. So we're not putting his picture up there. I wouldn't do that to you.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Thank you.

[A]

He's 18. He made headlines last July because at his 18th birthday party he hired people with dwarfism solely for entertainment and attractions. The team nickname.

[C]

Where is he from again?

[A]

Spain.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

The team nickname is La Roja and

[C]

this is Le Bleu, but La Roja.

[A]

Oh, and then this. I thought, I really did think. The way you reacted when picture came up is what I thought would happen. This is Marcos Laurente.

[C]

Uh huh. Yeah.

[A]

Not bad as a team. She's saying as a soccer team.

[C]

Not bad as a soccer team.

[A]

This one is one she likes to look at. She likes to watch Spain.

[C]

Yeah. I really like a set of pretty eyes. Yeah, he's got nice eyes. Yeah.

[A]

All right. And then.

[C]

And a square jaw.

[A]

So I feel like right now that's the leader in the clubhouse. I feel like right now Rose might be. A Rosebud's got a. A Spain thing going on.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

All right. And then let's go to Belgium. We've got the. This is the. The whole team. This is. Who beat us. Belgium beat us and eliminated us. The United States. This was after Donald Trump allegedly may have made a phone call, and there may be some corruption, but they. It may have motivated Belgium to absolutely kick our ass. And after they did, they all did the Trump dance in the locker room. I know.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I know, I know, I know. They rallied. They were down 2 nothing when they played Senegal the round before us, and it looked like they were gonna be knocked out. And then they came back and they beat them.

[C]

But FIFA is notoriously corrupt. Corrupt, yes. Yeah.

[A]

Their team nickname is Deroad Duvilles. It's the Red Devils. So that's kind of fun and a little bit spicy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then this is yacht demonic Carrasco. Not for you.

[C]

Wow. Looks like a bird.

[A]

The team of Belgium, she's saying, looks bird like.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Interesting. I don't get bird from that.

[C]

Yeah. I'm just getting, like, mean bird.

[A]

Then we've got.

[C]

You can't see him squatting on the side of a building, I guess.

[A]

Yeah, I guess I could.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Arms outstretched, about to take flight. About to take flight.

[A]

Eating seeds. None of this.

[C]

About to take your favorite sandwich.

[A]

Yeah. All right, so moving on to Norway because Belgium. Not for her. Norway, famous for the Viking Row celebration. Have you seen this at all? They. They. They bang a drum. The players do, and all the people in the crowd go like. Huh? Like they're rowing. It's actually very cool. It's like the wave, which the Americans do, but it's a lot cooler.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really neat.

[C]

And then they like the haka or something.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They've got a star player named Earling Holland. He plays for Manchester City in the Premier League. He is really loving being in America. World Cup. He's been wearing cowboy hats and. And cowboy boots. It's been pretty cute. This is the tallest team in the tournament. Their Average height is 6:2.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So that's nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And their team nickname is Red, White, and Blue, which I find I take real issue with. That's kind of our thing.

[C]

It's also just colors.

[A]

And then I guess Erling Holland is the hottie. I mean, sorry, we're not calling them hotties. Erlinghau. That's. That's him. That's the. He's like a Viking. He's very. He's very funny. And I don't mean actually funny funny. I mean, he's very. He's like genuinely very funny.

[C]

Yeah, you'd have to be funny. Mm. You'd.

[A]

So that's Norway.

[C]

You'd have to be pretty funny.

[A]

Norway's a fun one to root for.

[C]

You know what, you know, when you. It looks like. Can I say what it looks like?

[A]

I don't know. But if you try it and we hate it, we can cut it out.

[C]

Okay. He looks like. If you. That's what he looks like to me. Uh huh.

[A]

And we'll cut it out.

[C]

And we'll cut it out.

[A]

Cause that's so. It's too accurate and it's mean. You know, it's like when you told that girl she was ugly.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

When you were cheerleading. Unfortunately, you could be correct and too mean.

[C]

Can we leave it in to blurp? The whole blur.

[A]

Just go.

[D]

He looks like.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Would be fine, I think.

[A]

Yeah, we'll leave that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Next up we have England.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

England famously has not won a World cup since 1966. Their fans are starving for this.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

They had a guy the other day after a match who did not play, break his arm so bad he had to get carted off the field because he was just trying to jump over a wall that was like a partition and he fell.

[C]

I see. I appreciate that kind of insanity.

[A]

It's nuts. He also got a yellow card, which is something you can really usually only

[C]

get if you're playing as a player.

[A]

And he wasn't playing, and he was just so hyped up on the sidelines, they gave him a yellow card.

[C]

Okay. I'm already into this team.

[A]

Kind of crazy. Their team nickname is the Three Lions. And they've got a guy. Very good, very talented.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Named Jude Bellingham.

[C]

Very talented. He looks very talented.

[A]

Talented.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, we were only allowed to show you in these. They're actual, like, headshots from FIFA. But I can. I can text you some others.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, please do.

[A]

If you want to.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Just in case.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He looks very talented to me.

[A]

Very good at soccer. And you can tell.

[C]

And I'm already into the fandom, which is kind of like why I get into sports.

[A]

Right. You know, so it does kind of feel like England and Spain right now are leaders in the clubhouse. Two more teams. We have Argentina. This is the number one ranked team in the world. They are the defending champion. So they won the last World cup four years ago. You may have heard of Leah L. Messi. He's like a superstar, some people say the greatest of all time. He's the all time leading goal scorer at the World cup. He's got 21 goals. Damn. The nickname of Argentina is the white and sky blue. It sounds crazy. In English, in. In, I assume Portuguese. Right. Argentina, it's La Albacete, which is nicer than saying the. The white and sky blue. The Albusalest. And this is Rodrigo de.

[C]

Paul.

[A]

Paul.

[C]

Whoa. Yeah.

[A]

Just in case you wanted to like soccer, this guy plays it. So it's just again, I like how

[C]

he looks like he's getting out of the shower and his bathrobe isn't closed all the way. Yeah, you know, I don't. I couldn't post like, like his Uber Eats order came too early.

[A]

Like the kids are being too loud. Hey guys, keep it down down here.

[C]

How about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Right?

[D]

Uh huh.

[C]

Yeah, he's taking, he's taking his daughter out on a cold day to the bus stop. Wow. Yeah, I'm into him.

[A]

Rodrigo DePaul, the soccer player. And then lastly we have Switzerland. This is their first World cup quarterfinal since 1954. So they've made it further than they usually do. It's an exciting team to root for. They have only allowed three goals across five games in the World Cup. Their team nickname is Schweizer Nati, which just means the national team. So maybe we could have had a second meeting, second brainstorm about that.

[C]

Yeah. And maybe just a couple of.

[A]

Maybe we had a second idea. We could try just pitch around national team.

[C]

Maybe 30 more minutes.

[A]

And then this is Ire Kommert Kommer. And I know you said the eyes.

[C]

Uh huh.

[A]

So I just wanted to make sure you got.

[C]

No. Very, very hot on that.

[A]

Well, and we don't object. And not that we're objectifying, it is about their talent.

[C]

It's. No, that's what I'm saying. When I'm saying hot to try. Great.

[A]

He's doing good at soccer.

[C]

Yeah, he's doing great at soccer.

[A]

So if you had to pick, I mean, one of these groups of guys to root for.

[C]

Look, I can't make it entirely based on these photos.

[A]

Totally. So I would never. I gave you facts as well, right?

[C]

Yeah, you gave me facts. I'm gonna go with England mainly because as somebody who enjoys like sort of a group just group chaos. Yeah. I do like that. And I. I just love an insane fandom.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, and they are nuts. I like being a part of that,

[A]

you know, I like.

[C]

I would love to be a part of that is what I'm saying.

[A]

And I love that. Yeah, I love that. It's a fun team to root for. They're coming off a big win, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Rose Bud Baker, England fan.

[C]

Lifelong England fan from before I got here today.

[A]

Mostly married to it. Almost.

[C]

Almost.

[A]

Almost.

[C]

You could say committed.

[A]

Committed to it in some type of a way.

[C]

In. I mean, I would say even more than the Patriots. Yeah. Which is your own team. Which is my number one.

[A]

Which is your NFL. That is your American football team.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Y. You love the Patriots.

[C]

I'm obsessed with the Patriots and I love that. And I have been.

[A]

I'm going to keep you on that this season. I'm going to send you texts and go see the news.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

A. Rosie B. Yeah.

[C]

You see the news, send it to me.

[A]

That's going to be me to you fully baked. A messy memoir out now. You can also catch her on the Paper bag Princess Tour. July 10th and 11th in Las Vegas. July 30th through August 1st in Burlington, Vermont. August 14th through 16th in Washington, D.C. rosebud, thank you so much for coming.

[C]

Thank you so much for handling the dates for me.

[A]

Yeah, I got you. I don't know how you guys do it. You keep them up here.

[C]

I can't. No. I never do. I'm always like, they're like, we want to plug anything. I'm like, where's my phone? Like, so. Thank you for handling that.

[A]

Yeah. I got you.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This was fun.

[C]

This was so fun.

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L. Chris all right, C says hello in parentheses. Pretend I'm yelling. Longtime listener like the US Women's National Team kits being described as clean. Longtime listener. That is a long time time email mailer. I've it's been an exhausting few weeks being a more than casual WNBA fan, but I wanted to ride in with some fun highlights from the past couple of weeks since the dominant storylines that have likely made their way to a more casual fan are much less fun, I. E. Super racist, homophobic and sex.

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Can I pause you for a second? I appreciate this so much. It is truly a frustration. I've expressed an experience with the W, but it's like trying to pay casual attention is incredible. Incredibly difficult. So this may be my favorite email of all time. Go ahead, Chris.

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I'll Continues. The first story Marina Mabry, who plays for the new Toronto Tempo franchise, tied the single game scoring record set by Liz Cambage in 2018. Shout out. She's Australian and tied by asia Wilson in 2023 when she tallied 53 points against the LA Sparks at the end of June. 53 points. This feat is incredible on its own, but her record is even more outstanding when you look at the game game stats. Only 10 points came from free throws. She made 10 of 12 and she made 9 of 18, three pointers.

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Okay.

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Very impressive.

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Number two, the New York Liberty won the Commissioners cup against the Las Vegas Aces during a game in which we got to see Sabrina Yanescu hit A season high 26 points after some shakier performances coming back from injury.

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Good to see she's back and healthy. Also good to see we're still booing the commissioner just as loud as before.

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Oh, yeah. And the Last 1, the 2026 All Star roster was announced in Minnesota. Guard Olivia Miles, who has been having a breakout season, was the only rookie to be named to the lineup. As of my writing, the links are first in the standings, even while Nafisa Collier has been out recovering from surgery on both ankles, in no small part due to Mars's stellar performances.

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Yeah, dude, the links were great and got greater and it's crazy. Incredible. Good for them. Come on, Isabella. You were the whole time. Yeah. Olivia Miles, what a hell of a season that she's having. When is the All Star break for the W? I want to say it's soon.

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I believe it's next week.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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25th of July, the All Star Game takes place.

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Okay, so it's a couple weeks. Yeah. Wow. Brady, mute yourself Misinformation. Mute yourself for the rest of the podcast for once again misinforming us about the W. I said I believe it's new. I know, I know. And l thank you. He believes the he believes cup. Elle. Thank you. That was a fantastic for that to be first time, long time. Let's keep it going for Elle. An incredible email and a service that we appreciate and just incredible. I think we also have a voicemail. Do we have Kali from San Jose?

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We do.

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Let's play. Hey, casuals, this is Kali from San Jose, California. Just was listening to the episode of you talking about the NHL draft and our new 7 foot 1 player for

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the Sharks and was laughing out loud

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because of your joke about him having to use a tree as a hockey stick. And I would just like to say I am an arborist and I work for the city of San Jose and I would be happy to make that

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tree donation for him. Also super excited for the PWHL team here.

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Hell yeah.

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Love you.

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Mean it.

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Bye.

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Love you. Mean it. What is it? What is an arborist? They study trees, I. I think, right? They study them or they plant them?

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Oh, I don't know.

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Tree care specialist.

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Tree care specialist.

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Okay.

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Wow. You know, it's very fun to find out all the different walks of life that people come to this podcast from. And I would never have guessed in a million years we had an arborist who listens to this podcast and what an honor that is. And you even hear she said don't, she would donate a tree for him to play with. So I think that was actually an act of charity. A beautiful act of charity. Pwhl, San Jose. They don't have a name yet, right? We're still. Just not yet. Okay. So we gotta keep abreast of that. Keep an eye on that, Chris, because that should be interesting. I wonder what that's gonna be.

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Do you think they would do something related?

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I don't know. You never know if they're gonna try to tie it in with the local teams or if they want to establish themselves separately. I don't know what it's going to be, but I am excited to see and to find out. Because don't they call the. Are they playing at the same venue that the Sharks play at the SAP Center? And don't they call that, like the Shark Tank or something? The. The tank. And so it would be interesting if you picked something else that is in a tank, you know, and could keep that theme going. But don't let me tell you how to do your job. Whatever it is, we're going to love it. And it's going to be Chris's PWHL team. I'm already just kind of assigning it to us.

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Oh, I've already acknowledged that.

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Okay. Yeah, sorry. I don't listen when you talk, so sometimes you're on mute, you know, And I just can't. I just. We don't have the heart to tell you, so we just let you go.

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Like, I'm like, wow, I bet he's

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making really good Chris.

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Really good stuff.

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Appreciate it.

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Okay. And we appreciate all of you. Thank you so much for listening to casuals. This one probably clocks out under two hours, right? I think we kept it under two hours, right?

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At two.

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Depends how long it takes you to wrap this.

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Oh, my God. Thank you guys so much for listening. Love you, Mina. And we'll see you back here next week for another. Another adventure. Bye. This episode has been presented by Xfinity.

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