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Casuals with Katie Nolan
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Hello! It’s the podcast that categorically does not have any affiliation with stingrays. Today, Katie and the Casualties wrap up the NBA trade deadline, break down Tarik Skubal’s arbitration win, update the latest Minions-related Olympic drama, question how Tate McRae ended up endorsing Team USA, mourn the end of the Washington Post, and celebrate the NFL coming down under. Then, [21:41] Katie is joined by more incredible guests from radio row, including WWE’s The Bella Twins telling the truth about Cooper DeJean, Hall of Fame Running Back Emmitt Smith explaining 90’s Cowboy swag, Hall of Fame QB Warren Moon on Sam Darnold, former Eagles QB Donovan McNabb on Drake Maye, WWE Superstar Seth Rollins on his Bears fandom and CM Punk not being able to find Iowa on a map, Puka Full of Sunshine Kicker Brandon Aubrey and former USMNT goalie Tim Howard, and AEW wrestlers Orange Cassidy and Toni Storm playing the most spirited game of Take It or Leave It we saw all week. And finally, Isabella...
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Katie Nolan
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Pay with that natural born talent and unwavering focus. Earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases with the active cash Visa credit card from Wells Fargo. Terms apply. Visit Wells Fargo.com ActiveCash Visa, proud sponsor of the Olympics and Paralympic Games. Hey, Isabella, did you see that Jackson Hayes from the Lakers was suspended for a game because he shoved the Wizards mascot Gee Whiz into a cheerleader during the pre game warmups? No, I sent you a video. Click on the video in the chat. Okay. Aw, look at him. Oh, damn. He just tackled him. What the hell? It was completely unnecessary. He just shoves him. And it just so happens to be as the women are running onto the court and pushing him right into their path. Oh, Gee whiz.
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Donovan McNabb
Hello.
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Katie Nolan
Do you want me to do it because I'm inside an apartment. Yes.
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Donovan McNabb
Hello.
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Katie Nolan
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hello and welcome to Casuals. That was Isabella. I'm Katie Nolan, your host. Casuals, the sports podcast, doesn't care what you know. We're just happy that you're here. We love you. We think sports are for everybody and we want to share the wealth, so that's what we do here. I'm Katie Nolan, your host, coming to you live from Radio Row in San Francisco as we gear up and get ready for Super Bowl 60 between the new England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks. It's day. How many days have we been here, Brady? Three. It's our third day here. It's. I'm. It's Three's good. Three's company.
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Donovan McNabb
What?
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Katie Nolan
Three's company. I'm ready to tap out. It feels like we've been here for six weeks and this is really the vibe. Just like famous. Oh, I dropped my laptop. Famous people walking by all day. I know. It's an audio podcast. I just threw my laptop on the ground. We're introducing the podcast. That's what we're doing. Casualswithkatienolanmail.com is where you can reach us. 646-810-0043. On IG and TikTok, we are CasualsThePodcast. We got a lot of guests coming up. We got the Bella twins. Thought we were getting one. Uno reverse. We got them both. We got Emmett Smith, Warren Moon, Donovan McNabb, Seth Rollins, Brandon Aubrey, Tim Howard, Orange Cassidy, Toni Storm. A stacked show coming your way in just a little bit. But first, of course, we got to get you caught up on everything happening in sports very quickly. And joining me to do that are a couple of my casualties. We have Isabella, our sports newbie. Hi. And we've got Chris, our master editor.
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Chris
Hello.
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Katie Nolan
Joining me via Zoom. How's it. How is it back on Earth, you guys? It's good.
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Chris
It's nice.
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Warren Moon
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Honestly, we're probably the same. I was telling Chris earlier that I haven't stepped outside and had a breath of fresh air, which is probably what you've experienced today as well. Yeah, it really. It's starting to feel like a casino in here. It's, like, packed to the gills. I'm actually really grateful for the placement of Sirius as the week has gone on. We are tucked away in the back corner right near the bathrooms. And so we've got, like, high traffic if you want to. Like, you can see people that need to. Everybody. Everybody poops. So you could see people going to the bathroom. But it's not like we are out of the way. You know, we're not in the midst of it because deep in the middle there, it's just like, tables. Isabelle. I'll take pictures on my way out. It's like tables set up that you just, like, walk through, and people are, like, live on the air. Some people are recording podcasts. It's like everyone's yapping at the same time. Add each other to each other, in front of each other, next to each other. And then all of a sudden, you'd be like, oh, gronk. And then you go right back to. It's just like a. It's a fever dream. I can't express that enough. I've been trying to keep my finger on the pulse of everything happening in sports, but you two might have to help me. I know, Isabella, you're well versed. You know, I'm a big expert. I got to tell Brandon Aubrey. It'll come up in the interview. You guys will hear it later. But I got to Tell him that you helped win the fantasy league for you and he was honored. He was absolutely honored. I'm so glad. Yeah, he's great. That's what I call him.
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Donovan McNabb
Bb.
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Katie Nolan
That's a nickname for me. You go way back. Thanks, B.B. yeah. Yeah. He didn't remember you funny enough, but. No, he was very excited. He's so funny like that. That's a little bit we do. Did he pretend to not know me? That's our bit. Oh, he's so funny. Chris, what's up with the trade deadline? Has anything happened? The NBA trade deadline today has happened already. Time zones are confusing.
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Chris
Yep. As of an hour ago, as we are recording this, the trade deadline ended and Giannis still in Milwaukee. After all of that, I get that it can happen.
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Katie Nolan
I get that that was always a possibility, but there's something about this build up of like, who's gonna get him, and then it's like the. The team he has, the team he's already on is gonna get him. And then you just go back to work, I guess.
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Chris
Yeah. Because it's, it's, you know, it's always an option that the player is going to stay at the team, but for whatever reason, in the lead up to the trade deadline, in my mind I'm.
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Orange Cassidy
Like, all right, which.
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Chris
Which other team is going to get him? Because he's not staying there. That's not an option in my mind, for whatever reason. And then he stays like, ah, shit. Yeah, that's. That could absolutely happen and did happen. And it's the most boring thing to happen.
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Katie Nolan
Exactly. It's not as exciting to think about, like. Well, of the possible destinations, I suppose one of them is the current team that has it. That's stupid. That doesn't cross your mind. But it feels like such a letdown. We had crazy trades. We talked about him yesterday, but the big one everybody was anticipating did not get done. Do you think it's just because nobody had enough to offer?
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Chris
Yeah, I think that's probably it. A lot of teams who might think they're in the pole position for him at the end of the season might not have wanted to put up as much as they think he's worth at this stage. They might be waiting to pounce in the off season, so who knows what they're thinking. But for whatever reason, it just. It didn't eventually happen.
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Katie Nolan
And now it's Max Keeble's big move now. He thought he was leaving and he has to go back to where he is from. Hopefully that works out. I'm sure it'll be fine. He's hurt, right? He's still out, correct? Yeah. So we wish him all the best and have fun and have fun in Milwaukee, you know, continue to have fun in Milwaukee. Other big movement of player type conversations. That's a good transition, Katie. Did you guys see Tarek Scubal? This was a big thing we were talking about. He's a pitcher for the Tigers and we don't have to get into what arbitration is. It's not important really to a casual fan. All you basically need to know is that when a player thinks they're worth a certain amount of money and the team says that they're worth less money, sometimes these things go to arbitration where you have to argue for how much money you feel you're worth and the team comes in and argues that you're not worth that. We've talked about it a little bit before, about how awkward that dynamic is of. Imagine if your boss in front of you had to go like, actually Isabella doesn't really bring anything to the table, so she's definitely not worth this money. And you have these weird conversations that then again you have to go back to work there no matter what happens. So Tarik Skubal, we were talking about this one because it's big. It was the biggest discrepancy between what they wanted to pay him and what he felt he deserved to be paid. Tarek Skubal has twice, two years in a row won the Cy Young Award and they were low balling him. And so that went to arbitration. The whole baseball world was watching because it would sort of decide a lot of things. And he won. He won a record amount of money, which is great. We love when the chips fall in the favor of the chips fall. Is that what the chips do? Yeah. In the favor of the, of the player. That's right. And I would just love to hear the argument that they made. I wish that could have been recorded. I wish we could have had that on tv, like reality tv, to watch the Tigers try to argue that the guy who has been a key part of, of their team and they've, who they've basically rode to success, the great success they've had. What was really interesting is that they announced right before, it was after the trial, the arbitration hearing, but it was before we knew the results of the arbitration hearing that they signed from Valdez to a record contract for a left handed pitcher. Number wise, I think it was three years, $115 million, the highest AAV ever for a left handed pitcher. And for a Latin American pitcher. So shout out. And when I saw that, I was like, oh, I don't know. Maybe the arbitration went the other way. Maybe they saved all that money and then now they're gonna. But no, they ended up with both of them. Which means I think the Tigers are about to be a problem. Seems something to look to. Yeah. Something to look ahead to. Good for Detroit. I feel like they deserve it. And good for Terry Scubal. Shout out. You deserved it, King. You deserve it, King. We support you. The Olympics. The Olympics have started. Officially. Did you guys see that? Four minutes into the first event, they were doing curling, and then the power went out.
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Chris
You know what you want.
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Katie Nolan
I mean, really? I know this happens every year with the Olympics and getting the venues ready, but just so funny to be like, okay, big international event descending upon our city. First night. What can we do? Power goes out. Embarrassing.
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Chris
The saving grace for them, though, is I think there's still a big chunk of the general population that don't realize there are events that take place before the opening ceremony.
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Katie Nolan
And you know why that is? I think it's because the word opening, I feel like. Of course they don't, because an opening ceremony opens. Why are we doing pre opening ceremony events?
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Chris
Yeah, it's. It's confusing. It's annoying. And every time the Olympics comes around, I always have to remind myself. I'm like, okay, just because the opening ceremony is at this date does not necessarily mean there will not be events beginning before that date.
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Katie Nolan
That's right. And so that happened. There's also. Women's hockey has started, correct?
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Chris
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
US women's hockey kicked off Olympic competition with a 51 victory against Czechia. Is that how we're saying that? Because that's how I'm saying it. And then I. Is it Czechia?
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Donovan McNabb
It.
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Chris
Could I say Czechia. But that doesn't necessarily.
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Katie Nolan
Probably is. No, probably is. This is at the. All right, why don't you both just tell me that you hate me? Okay, why don't you both just tell. List off all the things you hate about me. Oh, great. I have that list right here. Team USA's scoring was led by Haley Skamora, who netted two goals in the win. Alex Carpenter and Hillary Knight and Joy Dunn each found the back of the net once during the first game for the U.S. team USA plays next on February 7th. What day of the week is that? Friday.
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Chris
Two days from now to Saturday.
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Katie Nolan
Saturday against finland. That's at 10:40am Eastern, which you can watch live on Peacock on the cock Or NBC Olympics dot com. Do you guys get to see any of this game? I didn't.
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Chris
Me neither.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I got to go back and watch it. It's. Again, I'm in a time loop time warp over here. But I did see a video. It was really cute. I don't know if you guys. I retweeted it. They gave the women before their practice. Every team got, like, 15 minutes on the ice to just, like, do whatever they wanted. And there was just these, like, really sweet moments of girlhood of them, like, hugging and taking pictures and, like, having fun and laughing. And a reporter. Yeah, there was a reporter for cbc. Tsn. Claire Hannah. She tweeted out, like, a compilation of everybody with their cute little moments of, I don't know, watching people realize they're in the Olympics. It was just kind of sweet and cute and reminds me of all my favorite things about sports. So definitely go check that out. The drama around the Olympics. Isabella, I'm dying to know your thoughts on this. Did you see all the drama about Tate McRae? Okay, so what is it about again? Because my mom sent me a picture in my DMs, Tate McCray, and I was like, what is. I didn't even look at it. I'm obsessed with your mom and the ways she gets into sports drama. I love her, like, messy little algorithm. I know Tate McRae famously from Canada. She's a Canadian pop star. She appears in commercials that are, like, teasing the Olympics leading up to the Olympics. It's her talking to an owl. Must be a thing they're going with this year. And she's basically saying, like, she's. Yeah, I'm greeting Team USA at the Olympics, can't wait to meet up with. And she's like, supporting Team usa. And everybody's reaction to it is like, what do you mean? You're Tate McRae. You're Canadian. Why are you supporting Team USA? Oh, yeah, that's.
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Brie Bella
I would react the same way, too.
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Katie Nolan
I know. And it makes me wonder where that got lost in the process of creating a commercial. Because, you know, there's, like, if you've ever made anything, I feel like there's people that'll go, like, I know you're Canadian, but no one's gonna notice you're a United States pop star. You're a big hit in the US and we're promoting this to the United States, so they wouldn't want to hear you saying you're supporting Canada. I can't. It must have been a meeting where some creative person was like, no one's gonna care. Which is absurd because everybody cared immediately. I watched it. It ran during one of the football games. And I remember going, Tate McCrae. What do you mean? You're greeting Team USA. I don't. How is that possible? Yeah. Oh, is it strange? The Jack Hughes effect, maybe. Okay. And that's what some people have been saying, is that you date Jacques and suddenly you're supportive of the United States. I don't know what it is. I just know that, like, absurd. It's absurd. That got to the level that it did, that it got out and nobody went like, hey, I actually am from Canada. I'm not really.
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Brie Bella
Imagine.
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Katie Nolan
It was the kind of thing. I don't know if you ever experienced this where, like, you're so anxious about something that you, like, won't speak up. And so it's like, the entire time, imagine Tate McCary just, like, Canadian. Do they know Canadians? Like, did I. I should have said something five meetings ago, but I didn't. And now it's too late. And now I'm, like, locked in. You know what it is? It's when somebody calls you the wrong name, but they do. You don't. You don't correct them at first. And then they introduce you to someone else and they do it with the wrong name, and you go, like, I really. I know you got to go. So sorry, you have to go. You got to go to the DMV and wait in line and legally change your name on your license because you waited too long to say, actually, it's Katie. That's Tate McCray. That's how it happened. We solved it. Another thing I want to make sure we mention. I know we're for casuals, and so maybe you guys aren't really plugged into what's going on with sports media and, like, sports journalists, but the Washington Post has had a storied sports department. I mean, I could go on forever about all of the big stories that they've broken in the. In the talent that they've introduced the sports world to. They are. They killed it. They killed their sports section yesterday or the day before. The days are all blurring together right before the super bowl, the Olympics, a huge trade for the Wizards, a World cup coming to the United States, and the LA Olympics in a couple years. So a big time in sports. And Washington Post now owned by Jeff Bezos. Jeff Kisses. Decided that goodbye we no longer need to have. I guess they're keeping on a, what they say, a skeleton crew. I want to read exactly what they wrote that will cover sports as a, quote, cultural and societal phenomenon. So what? I don't know. I guess they'll keep on a couple writers that have the ability to talk about sports when it crosses over into other lanes. But a really sad day for sports media and a terrible sign, I feel like, for the future of the gig. You know what I mean? So our thoughts are with all those people now looking for jobs over from the Washington Post, and if you're hiring, take a look at them because, I mean, what a sports department they had. Oh, and then last thing, I just saw this. Chris, we wanted to tell this to you. I don't know if you saw this. They announced the international games for next year and they're doing the first ever NFL game in Australia.
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Chris
Hell, yeah. I didn't see that until I saw Katie Nolan in the Google Doc typing it live.
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Katie Nolan
49Ers versus Rams in Melbourne.
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Chris
Oh, we're gonna pack that place out, man.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Donovan McNabb
At the.
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Katie Nolan
What's the Melbourne. The cricket.
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Chris
Cricket ground of which I am a member.
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Katie Nolan
You're a member?
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Chris
Wait, the Melbourne Cricket Club?
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Katie Nolan
You have to be a member?
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Chris
You don't have to be a member, but.
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Katie Nolan
Okay.
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Chris
You would like to attend all football matches for the year? Sort of. There's like a 16 year, 17 year waiting list to be a part of it.
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Donovan McNabb
What?
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Katie Nolan
Oh, sorry. You just told me you signed up.
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Brie Bella
When you were 17.
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Chris
No, I got signed up at birth and I got it when I was. I got it the day that Steve Irwin died.
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Katie Nolan
What in the Australian lore is this?
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Warren Moon
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Wait, so your parents, as a birthday.
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Chris
Present, My dad and my uncle signed up me and my cousin when we were born for the waiting list for.
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Brandon Aubrey
The Melbourne Cricket Club.
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Katie Nolan
Okay.
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Chris
Which is like, they. The Melbourne Cricket Club have, like, a specific section within the Melbourne Cricket Ground where you can go to every football game for free. You can go to a lot of other events, a lot of cricket games for free. So if you like the Boxing Day Test for the Ashes, or if we're playing India, you can go to cricket for free. You get a lot of perks as part of the Melbourne Cricket Club, but there's such a limited amount of seats available in the Melbourne Cricket Club that you have to wait until someone either can't afford to pay their annual membership or they die.
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Donovan McNabb
Oh.
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Chris
So it takes a long time. Because it's so prestigious. No one wants to get rid of their annual. Of course, you know, no one wants to get rid of their membership. So it's. I think it's up to 17 years. Now that.
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Katie Nolan
Wait, so this begs the question.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Did. Did you take Steve Irwin's place?
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Orange Cassidy
Did he.
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Chris
I've made that joke before.
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Katie Nolan
Was he in the club? And then when he died, you took Chris Tyler?
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Chris
Maybe.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, my God.
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Brie Bella
Getting it.
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Chris
Well, Steve, I gotta find out when. Steve, I think I was 15.
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Katie Nolan
I thought this was like a moment of national mourning. I thought you would remember. Like we remember 9, 11.
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Chris
Yeah, I was 15.
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Katie Nolan
So right on time. And when they say, I want to.
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Brie Bella
See if, like, how.
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Katie Nolan
How serious you got to take, like the 15 to 17 year.
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Brie Bella
Like, can it happen in five years or.
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Chris
No, it's. It's much longer now than it was in the mid-2000s also, I think.
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Katie Nolan
Did you. Okay, so now we have to ask. Did you pay that stingray?
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Chris
No comment.
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Katie Nolan
No comment. Wow. Once again. Oh, and then. Wait, guys. I think I saw. And this is the. This is the status of the Internet now. You can never tell if a story is real or not. But I think I saw that the Minions guy is. Got the green light. Oh, awesome. Oh, really?
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Chris
Bullying works.
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Katie Nolan
I saw them say. Let me. Exactly. Let me read what it says here. This is from ABC News. It says, it appears as if those troublemaking Minions will be taking the Olympic ice after all. He said after practice early Thursday that he has received the necessary approval for 3 of the 4 music cuts he needs to perform his short program. The only piece missing from his medley is Freedom by Pharrell Williams. And the American musician and producer has been sympathetic to his plight. He said they are discussing it. He seems to be okay, but there's problems because he's restricted by his label. A lot of technical stuff, but they're working to make it happen. Apparently he's optimistic enough that he practiced his Minions themed program shortly after 7:00am local time inside an empty Milano ice skating arena. Which sounds delicious. So he's gonna do it. I think we're gonna get the Minions routine. And I know. I just. I just know our listeners had something to do with it. I just know they went out there and they made the change. That's right. They went to change.org they started and then signed the petition that we were too busy to start ourselves. So big thanks to all y'. All. We got to root for Minions guy. I'm all Team USA on everything in the Olympics, but in this, I'm going to. We're rooting for him. So from Spain, I believe. Spain. Yeah. So I mean, big news. The biggest news of the day. All right, so I think that covers all the sports news, anything big I missed, that you saw Chris.
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Chris
That is absolutely everything that's happened.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, I have one news. I have one news. Oh, what? Katie Nolan is doing an amazing job on Radio Rod. I fell for that and I really, actually loved it. Me and my labubu are over here just absolutely loving that. All right, let's take a we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, you're gonna get smacked in the face with guests. We're gonna have everybody who walked past us on Radio Row that we were able to accost. We've got WWE Superstars, we've got AW wrestlers, we've got Donovan McNabb, we've got Warren Moon, Emmett Smith, hall of Famers, Isabella's fantasy team kicker, the guy who kicked her to victory. All of that coming up after a quick break. Here live from Radio Row. It's it's Casuals is the name of the podcast. We'll be right back. Everyone deserves to be connected.
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Orange Cassidy
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
This is your first thing on Radio Row. You've been here before to a Radio Row? Yeah. A million, I'm sure.
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Brie Bella
I feel like we've come a lot. Many years.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Brie Bella
I mean, think of the one year with Snoop Dogg and all that, when we were doing. Oh, my God, whatever that was called.
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Donovan McNabb
Yes.
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Katie Nolan
How do you maintain sanity during a media circus like this? Because this place is driving me nuts.
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Brie Bella
I always think about that drink I'm gonna get after. Actually, that's a good one. Do you know what I mean?
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Katie Nolan
Focus on the after.
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Donovan McNabb
Yes.
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Focus on the party.
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Brie Bella
The light at the end of the tunnel.
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Katie Nolan
So. Yeah. Well, you guys are promoting, obviously. WrestleMania is coming up in Las Vegas. What's the. What are the. What's the matches to look for? What are we. What's the stuff we're getting hyped on for WrestleMania?
- [25:16]
Brie Bella
Gosh. Well, we don't know yet. But all Nikki and I know is I just came back to WWE at the Royal Rumble, and Nikki and I, we really want to go for the WWE women's tag team titles, and so we're going to try our hardest.
- [25:32]
Katie Nolan
What do we have to do to get that to happen?
- [25:34]
Brie Bella
We gotta fight a lot of girls.
- [25:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [25:35]
Brie Bella
Take them down.
- [25:36]
Katie Nolan
I love that. I love when you guys fight a lot of girls. Is there any girl you like fighting the most?
- [25:41]
Brandon Aubrey
Ooh.
- [25:43]
Brie Bella
I mean, for me, I guess I would say, as of late, Raquel, I think Raquel, I mean, I think she, you know, hopefully will be the new Women's World Champion soon. But I liked fighting her. Yeah. Even though I get my butt kicked, there's a lot of women I'm definitely like, yeah. Looking forward to. I feel like Bailey and Lyra, obviously. Rio. I mean, there's so many.
- [26:09]
Katie Nolan
You're like.
- [26:09]
Brie Bella
Literally. There's so many incredible tag teams warriors. I'm like, bring them all on. Bring them all on. It's a good era. It's great era.
- [26:17]
Katie Nolan
How is everybody's boobs doing?
- [26:19]
Brie Bella
My boobs good. Or maybe one day I want to get them redone. I mean, I want them back to being bigger first.
- [26:25]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [26:26]
Brie Bella
But it's a little different when you say you get a scared of it. Okay. So this is what's different, is I started doing all this crazy weight training.
- [26:35]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [26:36]
Brie Bella
But I forgot that you're kind of building your pec muscles under your implant. So then it kind of made me feel like my boobs look smaller even though I got them done.
- [26:45]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Because it's almost, like, tightened up. You know what I mean?
- [26:49]
Brie Bella
They're getting lean too.
- [26:50]
Katie Nolan
Right. So you're saying if you want your boobs to look good, don't bother working out. It sounds message on hearing.
- [26:56]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [26:56]
Brie Bella
You don't do push ups or pull ups. You don't do anything for the pecs. Don't want that pec muscle.
- [27:01]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Oh, darn. I'm gonna have to cut out all the push ups I'm doing. Yeah. A real shame. As you can tell, I'm very, very strong. Super bowl halftime show. Everybody's talking about it good and bad, but you, at least I think you were with WWE when Bad Bunny. Didn't he wrestle? Yes.
- [27:16]
Brie Bella
So I actually was a Mac, but I watched it all. He was so impressive.
- [27:21]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [27:21]
Brie Bella
I was on set with Bad Bunny at Happy Gilmore 2.
- [27:24]
Katie Nolan
That's right. Yes, that makes sense.
- [27:26]
Brie Bella
And I had said something to him about coming back, and I think at one point, like, he would love to come back. What's crazy is he felt like he could have did even better. And everyone was blown away by him because he was so incredible in the ring and his character. So, I mean, I would die for the day for him to come back. I would, like, even be his valet. I'd be like, I'll manage you.
- [27:47]
Katie Nolan
I'll do anything.
- [27:48]
Brie Bella
I'll do anything.
- [27:49]
Katie Nolan
I'll do anything to help you get here.
- [27:50]
Brie Bella
I'll grab a chair. I'll hit someone in the head. It doesn't matter. Just come back.
- [27:54]
Katie Nolan
Are you guys excited for the halftime show? Oh, my God. I hear it's just, like, a big party. I've seen people that go to his concerts that are like, he just throws this giant party. And so I'm very excited.
- [28:05]
Brie Bella
Music makes you want to move your hips.
- [28:07]
Katie Nolan
It's impossible not to, right?
- [28:08]
Brie Bella
We were even listening in the car on the way over, like, to get fired up.
- [28:12]
Katie Nolan
Even if you've never heard a song before, you're like, well, that's in my hips. It has infected me. How's it been being back? You good? You feel good?
- [28:19]
Brie Bella
Gosh, to be honest, it's been a whirlwind. I feel like I haven't had a moment just to, like, sit down in Quietness and be like, oh, shit.
- [28:26]
Katie Nolan
Well, you really.
- [28:27]
Brie Bella
You know, so it's. It's been very. It's been really great. It's just overwhelming of just happiness and the support and the love. It's just. It's been great.
- [28:38]
Katie Nolan
Hell, yeah.
- [28:39]
Brie Bella
I love it.
- [28:39]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [28:40]
Katie Nolan
Good. Are you watching the new Traders? I know you were on Traders. Are you watching the new season? So bad.
- [28:46]
Brie Bella
I haven't.
- [28:47]
Katie Nolan
It's. There's too much to watch.
- [28:48]
Brie Bella
It's too much to watch right now. I've been seeing those clips. I'm seeing how Colton super hated.
- [28:53]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [28:54]
Brie Bella
Feel bad that Donna got out super quick.
- [28:56]
Katie Nolan
I know.
- [28:58]
Brie Bella
But I feel like you are loving this season.
- [29:00]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I think it's. I truly think the first few seasons, like, because of, like, the great casts that they had put together. It built to now people that weren't in on. In the first few were like, I gotta get in on totally. For sure.
- [29:11]
Brie Bella
I completely agree.
- [29:12]
Katie Nolan
A good cast. But yeah. Donna Kelce getting knocked out early.
- [29:15]
Donovan McNabb
I know.
- [29:15]
Brie Bella
And, you know, she and I filmed a commercial together for NBCU and Google and she couldn't tell me anything, but I could tell she really wanted to talk about her experience. But you're on such crazy NDAs and you can't talk till everything is out, so I just feel like she's too nice.
- [29:31]
Katie Nolan
I know.
- [29:32]
Brie Bella
You know, But I do think she has a strength to her where you don't cross her either.
- [29:37]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And you kind of lay down.
- [29:38]
Brie Bella
Yeah.
- [29:39]
Katie Nolan
When you've got kids like that, you probably got to be good at being the cop.
- [29:43]
Brie Bella
Totally. And the thing is, it's hard to be a traitor out of the gate.
- [29:47]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [29:47]
Brie Bella
It's really a traitor. Yeah.
- [29:48]
Katie Nolan
She was a secret trader.
- [29:49]
Brie Bella
She was a secret trader, which was like a new.
- [29:51]
Katie Nolan
A new rule. They changed. I honestly. And I like the show. They change the rules as you go. Gotta keep you on your toes. I know. You know.
- [29:58]
Brie Bella
Interesting.
- [29:59]
Katie Nolan
Must be very disorienting. Do you actually sleep in the house?
- [30:03]
Donovan McNabb
No.
- [30:03]
Katie Nolan
I didn't think so. No, I didn't think so. Oh, that just. I'm gonna text my fiance because we were arguing about it and he was like, they definitely told. I was like, I don't know. I think that they might listen. I don't want to ask the question that everybody's asking you. I don't.
- [30:17]
Brie Bella
Oh, let's please do I want to see.
- [30:19]
Katie Nolan
Are you dating Cooper De Jean or. No.
- [30:22]
Brie Bella
No, We're. We're good friends.
- [30:24]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [30:25]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah.
- [30:25]
Brie Bella
Good friends.
- [30:25]
Katie Nolan
Good friends kiss sometimes.
- [30:27]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [30:28]
Brie Bella
You know, it's so Funny, though. I was telling Nikki, I'm like, why is it with you, anything you do in your life, like the media, it just like, is like a wildfire. It goes, like, everywhere.
- [30:37]
Katie Nolan
Like, the story. Story was immediately everywhere. And at first I'm like, it's misinformation. It's the Internet. You can post an infographic about anything now and people will just believe you. But then it kept going.
- [30:48]
Brie Bella
It did keep going.
- [30:49]
Katie Nolan
And then you kind of might have maybe a little said it while it happened.
- [30:52]
Brie Bella
She added a little fuel to the fire. You know what I mean?
- [30:55]
Katie Nolan
She's my favorite eagle. Yeah.
- [30:57]
Brie Bella
My favorite place. But you know what?
- [30:58]
Katie Nolan
It is normally super hot.
- [31:01]
Brie Bella
That's why I was like, yeah, I got good taste. I'm in Philly. It's funny because I thought I was getting booed at. And she's like, they're saying Coop. I mean, Coop, literally. I mean, this girl.
- [31:11]
Warren Moon
Yeah.
- [31:11]
Brie Bella
He had.
- [31:12]
Katie Nolan
Is that what you call him? Do you call him Coop?
- [31:14]
Brie Bella
I call him Cooper.
- [31:15]
Katie Nolan
Cooper.
- [31:16]
Brie Bella
Cooper.
- [31:17]
Katie Nolan
Cooper. Cooper, baby.
- [31:19]
Brie Bella
Yeah.
- [31:19]
Katie Nolan
What do you call him?
- [31:21]
Brie Bella
I call him. I gotta think of a good nickname.
- [31:26]
Katie Nolan
Just so. I'm just so curious, you know, I'm just so. Everybody just wants to know because you'd be a. A hot item, you know, if it were Tiff. I don't want it.
- [31:37]
Brie Bella
Look, hey, I'm still collecting resumes for. So please send them in. She's like my Tinder app. I'm her Tinder.
- [31:44]
Katie Nolan
Which is much better than the actual Tinder app. Just the apps are difficult.
- [31:49]
Brie Bella
I'll do the swiping.
- [31:50]
Katie Nolan
If anybody wants to get to her, they go through you.
- [31:52]
Brie Bella
Go through me.
- [31:53]
Katie Nolan
Submit their applications to be.
- [31:55]
Brie Bella
You know where to find me at Bo Bri on Instagram. Hit me up. I'll let you know if it's a yes or no very quickly.
- [32:01]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, all right. Interesting.
- [32:03]
Brie Bella
Everyone needs a Bree in their life.
- [32:05]
Katie Nolan
What are you looking? What are your top three things you're looking for?
- [32:09]
Brie Bella
Well, it's so weird because I'm not even looking. It's like, you know what I mean?
- [32:14]
Katie Nolan
What are the top three things you would want in someone looking for you?
- [32:16]
Brie Bella
Like, I love muscles. I like to laugh.
- [32:22]
Katie Nolan
Funny muscles.
- [32:23]
Brie Bella
I love eyes.
- [32:24]
Katie Nolan
And I.
- [32:24]
Brie Bella
But you know, what is like, swag? You have to have swag and a big heart.
- [32:29]
Katie Nolan
Well, of course, there's a lot of being a little demanding. I don't know that we can find a man with eyes who is also funny and has heart and muscles, but a heart is a muscle and swag.
- [32:40]
Brie Bella
Swag.
- [32:40]
Katie Nolan
Swag.
- [32:41]
Brie Bella
Top Three.
- [32:41]
Katie Nolan
And, and. And to just narrow down swag style, all of it.
- [32:47]
Brie Bella
The. The way they walk, talk, stare, you know, like, I like when people look at me and they want to, like, eat me up with their eyes.
- [32:55]
Katie Nolan
I'm like, it's got to be like, steamy and spicy. Yeah.
- [32:58]
Brie Bella
Like the way they, like, will text you, talk to. I don't know. It's just. There's a certain swag and swag turns me on a lot.
- [33:05]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [33:06]
Brie Bella
All right.
- [33:06]
Katie Nolan
Damn. Even just hearing you talk about.
- [33:08]
Brie Bella
You know what I mean?
- [33:09]
Warren Moon
Okay.
- [33:09]
Brie Bella
That resume keeps growing hot in here.
- [33:13]
Katie Nolan
All right, you guys are gonna have to do so much press today, so I'm not going to keep you long. I'm gonna let you go. Thank you for coming and seeing us. Absolutely gorgeous matching as always.
- [33:22]
Brie Bella
You know what I mean? By the way, we didn't even plan it. We did never plan it. But we always love seeing you. But we do love to see you. You're the best.
- [33:30]
Katie Nolan
And if this gets to be too much, I'll be over here. You can always come escape over here. We can get you waters and stuff.
- [33:36]
Brie Bella
Well, I see cut water keeps flashing the margaritas everywhere.
- [33:39]
Katie Nolan
I know it's very terrible, but are.
- [33:40]
Brie Bella
They here flashing margaritas? The whole drive here, I saw cut water everywhere.
- [33:44]
Katie Nolan
Probably. He was getting super defeated.
- [33:46]
Brie Bella
Oh, nice.
- [33:47]
Katie Nolan
There's wings. That's the only food you're gonna find other than like a bag of chips.
- [33:51]
Brie Bella
Gluten free. I can't even do it. I got punched in the face. And so I have like the worst cut in my mouth.
- [33:56]
Katie Nolan
Oh, like at the front of your royal rumble. Boom, boom.
- [34:00]
Brie Bella
So my teeth hurt still. My mouth, my mouth.
- [34:02]
Katie Nolan
I can't eat anything spicy, I'm sure. Damn, that sucks. That's the hazards of the job.
- [34:07]
Brie Bella
Hey, you know, but you look good doing it. I didn't have a good punch in the face in a long time. Me neither. Oh, I forgot what that felt like. All right, I gotta take this girl.
- [34:15]
Katie Nolan
All right, Nikki, Brie, thank you so much for being here. Have fun on Radio Row. Try to maintain your sanity.
- [34:19]
Brie Bella
Well, thank you, Katie. Love you.
- [34:22]
Katie Nolan
Okay, joining us now. This is a big one, you guys. This is a really big one. The NFL's all time leading rusher. You know the name, maybe even from Dancing with the Stars. It's Emmett Smith, hall of fame running back. Emmett, thank you so much for being here.
- [34:35]
Emmett Smith
Thank you, Katie.
- [34:36]
Katie Nolan
Really appreciate it. You're here on behalf of tableau, tell me what table tableau is.
- [34:40]
Emmett Smith
Yeah, tableau is a. Is an antenna that's associated or tied to your house. Connecting all of your television, all your, all of your TVs in your house, all of your cell phone devices, your laptops, your iPads, connecting all of your digital devices together so you can get streaming services on those devices without interrupting anything. You can get Ruku and Fire tv. It happens on Android, on the Apple computers and everything else. So it connects everything. But not only that, but you get over 125 channels, you get your local television, you get a chance to watch, pause, review, record, including local news, live sports and other things. So with Tableau, you get a whole lot of services for just one price. It's not like you got to pay for all these different types of subscriptions you give. Get it for one price and that's about a hundred dollars.
- [35:33]
Katie Nolan
Go to tableautv.com or check out Amazon, Walmart or Best Buy. That's where you can find. It's very useful.
- [35:38]
Brandon Aubrey
It is.
- [35:39]
Katie Nolan
Now, doesn't it feel like there's so many services and then I gotta go on this TV and it's not connected to this.
- [35:45]
Emmett Smith
Exactly. And right now I'm canceling services.
- [35:47]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I mean we gotta. There's too many.
- [35:49]
Emmett Smith
Yeah, but yeah, and you're paying about an average of 75 bucks or 79 for streaming services and that's on a monthly basis. So will you start talking about Tableau? And I pay one time.
- [35:59]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [35:59]
Emmett Smith
And I get this.
- [36:00]
Katie Nolan
Yes, please.
- [36:00]
Emmett Smith
I mean, I don't have to worry about ABC and, and, or Disney and somebody else arguing over whether or not they can show television, live football games or whatever. They gonna block out the local, local news and everything else. Yeah, I go right to Tableau. I get, get the games and they.
- [36:14]
Katie Nolan
Take care of it and they take it easy for you.
- [36:16]
Emmett Smith
Make it easy and simple.
- [36:17]
Katie Nolan
Let's talk about this Super Bowl. When you look at the running game for these two teams, like which running back do you think is going to be the difference maker in this game?
- [36:25]
Emmett Smith
You know, I think both, both teams have one team have two running backs. Unfortunately for Seattle, they lost one of their running backs. But however, the. The combination of what I've seen over the last two weeks between the two guys that they have in Seattle, it could actually work as well. Now one thing I do know about super bowl games like this, when you have you give a defensive coordinator two weeks to prepare the ra. The running game is the one thing that suffers the most. And the reason why is because they spent the last two weeks of the last 10 days focusing on how to stop the run, whether it's with eight man or if it's with seven, whether it's stunning or slanting the defense to a certain direction because of formation designs, et cetera, et cetera, just so they can slow down the run. Nobody wants their offense to get rolling. So if the offense get rolling, it opens up the play action pass, the bootleg pass, and it opens up the whole offense, which could be a problem for a defensive coordinator. So I would expect the team that can actually run the ball the best in this super bowl will probably be the team that, that will end up winning the game because of the balance that's there now, you could do it early and then you can control it late. If you're able to control, control it, then the better off you will be.
- [37:41]
Katie Nolan
Did you notice that in Super Bowls were you like they, they, they're coming for me specifically?
- [37:46]
Emmett Smith
Heck yeah. The Steelers was, did it, did it the best in the three Super Bowls I played in. The Steelers did it the best and they were determined to shut down our running game and they did a very good job. Very good job. I did not have the best Super Bowl Russian game against the Steelers, but I scored enough touchdowns.
- [38:07]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, you did enough. How do you, as a running back, how did you prepare then specifically for the Super Bowl? Like what is, what is a running back focusing on getting ready to go into this?
- [38:16]
Emmett Smith
Well, he just need to focus on his keys. Try to understand looking, looking at a lot of defensive fronts that, that the Patriots are going to throw at them, looking at the stunts, seeing what his offense is doing to tip off what stunts that the Patriots may have and taking advantage of the, the lack of discipline that they may have defensively. As a running back, I felt, always felt like I could not make. I was going to make a guy wrong all the time. He cannot be right both ways. He's going to have to take. He going to take. Take away something which gives me the other. And so I think as a running back and as an officer running back coach, I'll be trying to let my guys understand that, listen, this is either going to be a one cut and go game, a downhill finishing game. You're going to take two in the first half, you're going to get four in the second half or you're going to take three and we're going to get six in the second half. Take what the defense give you. Try not to do too much. Don't turn a bad play into a worst play and get behind your pass. If we, if it's a one cutting game, cut and go game.
- [39:25]
Katie Nolan
Do you have any thoughts of who you think is going to win? I know a lot of people are saying this.
- [39:29]
Emmett Smith
I'm being very biased and I'm going with the Seahawks because they're representing the nfc. It's been a long time. Yeah, I know. Although Philly did win it about a year ago.
- [39:37]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [39:38]
Emmett Smith
But we need to get back to back wins.
- [39:40]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah.
- [39:40]
Katie Nolan
All right. You don't want to maybe root for the Patriots? I'm a Patriots fan. I should have probably disclosed that right away. Well, it's possible. Possible they could do it.
- [39:48]
Warren Moon
Right.
- [39:48]
Katie Nolan
Everybody's talking about the Seahawks like it's a foregone, foregone conclusion.
- [39:51]
Emmett Smith
I just say I was being biased. I know I was being biased and.
- [39:54]
Katie Nolan
I'm being biased too.
- [39:55]
Emmett Smith
Yeah, I know, I know. I'm telling you I'm being biased. I'm not saying that the Patriots don't have a chance. I think Mark Vabril has done a tremendous job with that team.
- [40:05]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [40:05]
Emmett Smith
I think you have a solid quarterback in Drake May that can absolutely wheel your team to victory.
- [40:12]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [40:13]
Emmett Smith
And he's not going to make a ton of mistakes. However, Seattle over the last two games that they played, they look almost impenetrable. Yeah, they look that way but of course you look that way. Don't mean that you will remain that way.
- [40:31]
Katie Nolan
That's right.
- [40:31]
Emmett Smith
So I mean this, this is a big game and neither one of the quarterback have quarterbacks have super bowl experience.
- [40:39]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [40:39]
Emmett Smith
And so nervousness jitters can be on both sides of the ball.
- [40:44]
Katie Nolan
That long halftime messes with you, right?
- [40:47]
Emmett Smith
Yes, it does.
- [40:47]
Katie Nolan
Because you just like it throws off that you play so many games.
- [40:52]
Emmett Smith
These kids are eating uncrustables at halftime. They get full fledged meals and everything else. They're having a great time.
- [40:58]
Katie Nolan
What were you doing at halftime?
- [41:00]
Emmett Smith
Oh man, I just couldn't wait to get back out there. I was like my body was already anticipating it was to going we was going to be in the locker room for 10 minutes. Then they said now we're going to be in about another 20, 25 more minutes.
- [41:09]
Katie Nolan
Did you just start running back there to keep yourself warmed up?
- [41:12]
Emmett Smith
Just get sit there and wait.
- [41:16]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [41:16]
Emmett Smith
Or sneak outside and try to catch Michael Jackson.
- [41:19]
Katie Nolan
Is that who. Who were the. Do you remember the halftime performers?
- [41:22]
Emmett Smith
Michael Jackson was one.
- [41:23]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [41:25]
Emmett Smith
In. In Super Bowl 27.
- [41:27]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [41:27]
Emmett Smith
I don't remember who was. Who's the performing? 28 or 30.
- [41:32]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I should look it up. I should have looked it up before you got here. But did you get to see a little bit of Michael Jackson?
- [41:37]
Emmett Smith
No, no.
- [41:37]
Katie Nolan
I was going to say. Is that where you learned your dancing from?
- [41:39]
Emmett Smith
No, unfortunately, I missed the King of Pop.
- [41:42]
Katie Nolan
Talk to me about winning Dancing with the Stars. That is the did. Have you always been a good dancer?
- [41:49]
Emmett Smith
Not ballroom dancer. That was the first time I ever learned how to ballroom dance. I. I used to.
- [41:53]
Warren Moon
I would.
- [41:54]
Katie Nolan
You can cut a rug.
- [41:56]
Emmett Smith
I can, yeah. I think I could cut a rug. Dancing and having a good time, seeing salsa moves and everything as I kind of pick up on some of the moves and rhythms and stuff like that. However, Dancing with the Stars was something different.
- [42:08]
Katie Nolan
It was cool.
- [42:09]
Emmett Smith
Learning how to ballroom dance took some time, some effort, some patience and a lot of work.
- [42:16]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Do you still. Are you keeping up with it? You still ballroom? No. That's the quickest. No, you're like, no, I don't. It was fun while I did it.
- [42:23]
Emmett Smith
It was fun while.
- [42:24]
Katie Nolan
And then I think that's it.
- [42:25]
Warren Moon
Yeah.
- [42:25]
Katie Nolan
All right. I don't want to keep you too long. We are a podcast for casual sports fans. So I There. It's possible people listening to this do not understand the Cowboys dynasty from your time. How could you explain it and put it into context for them just how much of a cultural phenomenon you guys were?
- [42:42]
Emmett Smith
I would say, what do they remember?
- [42:47]
Donovan McNabb
What?
- [42:47]
Katie Nolan
I mean, I mean it's. I mean, they'll know your name, of course.
- [42:50]
Emmett Smith
Mean, what do they remember about somebody else? I mean, since they don't know us.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Emmett Smith
Cuz I can only equate us to who they see as today's guy.
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Katie Nolan
So who would you say is the closest to what the Cowboys were now?
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Emmett Smith
It'll be the Patriots.
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Katie Nolan
I know.
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Emmett Smith
It'll be Patriots and Tom Brady in that area.
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Katie Nolan
I know.
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Emmett Smith
The only difference is Tom B. Tom Brady was Troy. The Patriots didn't have a true running back. I was a running back.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Emmett Smith
They really didn't have a true wide receiver outside of. You can talk about Julie Elliman and. And Grunk was a tight end. Obviously. We had the Jay Novich.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Emmett Smith
But our wide receivers was Michael Irvin and Alvin Harper.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Emmett Smith
So, I mean, our offensive line was absolutely phenomenal. On the defensive side of ball, you might say Mark Vabro. You might say Rodney Harrison. You might say drawing a blank. USC outside linebacker Willis. Is it Willie McGinnis.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Emmett Smith
McGinnis. You might say Teddy.
- [43:53]
Katie Nolan
Teddy Bruski.
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Emmett Smith
Bruski as a linebacker. So we had Ken Norton Jr. Yeah. His daddy was the boxing champion, heavyweight champion of the world. Ken Norton. Jr. We had Charles Haley. Charles Haley has five rings. Nobody else in the league has more rings than Charles Haley himself, I don't think. Then you start talking about Rodney Harrison. We'll replace Rodney Harrison with Darren Woodson and Thomas Everett and James Washington. We talk about cornerbacks. You got Larry Brown and you have Kevin Smith, and then we had Dion at cornerback. So you talking about a squad we had?
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Katie Nolan
You had the squad. You had the talent, but you were also cool.
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Emmett Smith
Oh, oh, we were cool. We had swag.
- [44:36]
Katie Nolan
The most swag.
- [44:37]
Emmett Smith
We brought swag to the league.
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Katie Nolan
That's right. That's the lasting cultural impact, I think, of those of that Cowboys team is the swag that you brought to the league. Emmett Smith, thank you so much for being here. Enjoy the rest of your time on Radio Row. I know it's a lot, guys. Go to tableautv.com or go to Amazon, Walmart or Best Buy to check out Tablo and make your streaming services a little easier to deal with.
- [44:59]
Warren Moon
Please do.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. Joining us now here at Radio Row, we've got Warren Moon, hall of Fame quarterback.
- [45:06]
Warren Moon
Imagine that.
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Katie Nolan
Thank you so much for being here.
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Warren Moon
Well, thanks for having me.
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Katie Nolan
Tell me about what you're doing with the NFL Alumni Fatherhood Champions Program.
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Warren Moon
Well, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm doing a fatherhood champions program, which what we're trying to do is give dads the right tools to help reconnect or connect with their families much better. And having a father in the household is very, very important, I think, for any young kids. I don't know if you had a dad when you were growing up. I didn't. And there was something that still left a hole in my heart for, you know, not having a dad that I could talk to about things that sons talk to their dads about. So this was a program that I really wanted to get involved in because I know how important it is for not only to have a dad, but have a dad that's really connected to his family, connected to his kids. And this program will give you the tools and different things that you need to improve those relationships that you have with your kids if you don't have that right now. So it's a program that I think is going to be very successful. We're going to have a boot camp for dads on Father's Day that they can come to. We have podcasts set up that you can listen to and listen to a lot of different ways you can become a better dad. We have handbooks that we're going to give out this that are being developed. So a lot of different ways to help dads become better dads.
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Katie Nolan
Amazing. And a lot of us connect with our dads through sports, so that makes perfect sense.
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Warren Moon
Yeah. And I know having my mom in the stands was important, but it would have been even better to have a dad there as well, especially for a male athlete. Somebody that I could talk to when we won a game or celebrate with, or somebody that I could talk to when we lost a game and he could give me some words of encouragement or whatever. I used to see other teammates of mine, you know, that had that, and I always wished I had that, but I didn't, and I made the most of it, and here I am today in a pretty successful position.
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Katie Nolan
I did say more than enough. Made the most of it.
- [46:53]
Warren Moon
I would say there's a lot of people that deserve to have that relationship with their dad if they have a dad around.
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Katie Nolan
I love that. Going back and giving people what you wish you had is a great way to pay it forward and change the world.
- [47:06]
Warren Moon
No question about it.
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Katie Nolan
For our fans, we are a casuals podcast. We are for people that are into sports but maybe aren't like Die Hards and don't know a lot. So I want to give everybody context for how important you are and the effect that you've had on the game. You know, the only man inducted into both the Canadian Football hall of Fame and the Pro Football hall of Fame.
- [47:24]
Warren Moon
Wow.
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Katie Nolan
Which is pretty cool.
- [47:26]
Warren Moon
Pretty cool.
- [47:26]
Katie Nolan
It's pretty cool to be in both.
- [47:27]
Warren Moon
The only one.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. And the first black quarterback inducted into the hall of Fame.
- [47:32]
Warren Moon
The only.
- [47:33]
Katie Nolan
No way.
- [47:34]
Warren Moon
It's only me.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. And so part of that, it must feel. Well, I'll just let you tell me, what does that feel like?
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Warren Moon
It almost feels like the dad thing.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Warren Moon
When we do our group picture with all the different positions when you're at the hall of Fame, I'm the only black guy in that group. So one day I think there will be another one in there. I don't know when it's gonna be, but hopefully it'll be soon because there's a lot of guys that deserve to be.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. I'm shocked by that. It's kind of hard for me to believe a lot of talk about the quarterbacks in this matchup for the Super Bowl. Let's start with Sam Darnold. An interesting story. Somebody that was counted out early called a bust, and now he's putting it together. What have you seen of his evolution over these last few Seasons. And. And what sort of perspective can you provide for when people count you out for something and then you can prove them wrong?
- [48:29]
Warren Moon
Yeah. Well, I love his story, and I love his. His journey. I had a different journey where I had to go to a different country and play. Nobody thought I could play quarterback. Some of it had to do with the color of my skin, all those different things. So my journey was totally different. But I survived it, got through it, and wear a gold jacket today because of that. Well, Sam, I love his journey because he went to a dysfunctional organization with the jets, didn't work out well there. He lost his confidence because of the way things went for him his first couple of years. He bounced around to Carolina. He ends up in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan, where he's a backup, but he gets a chance to kind of, you know, redevelop and rethink everything about his career and not have the pressure on him of being a starter. I think he was behind Jimmy Garoppolo at that time. And then Minnesota comes calling because he's available and Kyle Shanahan is vouching for him. This kid can really play. What I've seen out of him since he's been with our organization, he goes to Minnesota, has a great year there, but it didn't end the way everybody thought it should. And so Seattle presents an opportunity for him, and he's made the most of that there. And I'm just so happy for him because he's gone through a lot, he's persevered through it all, and he has this great demeanor of just being so calm about everything. He's never too high when he's having success. He's never too low when he's not having success. And that's the way you got to play this position, because it is up and down position.
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Katie Nolan
On the other side, we have Drake May, the second youngest quarterback to play in a Super bowl, hasn't had the best performance in the playoffs so far, obviously dealing with a shoulder injury and playing some very difficult defenses, which, of course, he will also do in the super bowl, as Seattle's very formidable on that side of the ball. What have you seen from him? And. And do you think I'm a Patriots fan, I should disclose? Do you think he can win the Super Bowl?
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Warren Moon
I love his maturity for. For a guy as young as he is, you know, he's, like you said, 22 years old. He's in the. He's in the super bowl, but the way he handles himself in his interviews I watch all those things when I look at quarterbacks, I look at their composure, I look at that. Those things that are, those are very important to me as a quarterback. And I love his accuracy. 72% completion percentage for a young guy like that in an offense. That is kind of a new offense for him this year. So he's very, very impressive. They've got good pieces around him, which helps. But like you said, he hasn't played as well in the playoffs. But some of it has to do with weather, some of it has to do with his injury. But he's done, you know, things with his legs, if you. He's not doing it with his arm, he's making big plays with his legs. So he's doing what it takes to win football games. And that's all you really concerned about at this point, Just whatever it takes to win the dang game.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, exactly. And he's doing that.
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Warren Moon
And he's doing that.
- [51:12]
Katie Nolan
What does that say to you? When a quarterback has a high completion percentage and in such a new offense, does that speak to like a mindset thing or is that something that he's doing training wise? What does that say about him?
- [51:24]
Warren Moon
I think it says all of that and I, I think it says he puts a lot of time and work into what he's doing. I think he works with his receivers a lot, one on one, maybe when they're not practicing, maybe before practice, after practice. He's putting in the time, probably watching a lot of tape together as well. And then the coaching staff is doing things that they know he does really well. And that's a big part of it too. You want to make sure you incorporate into your offense what your quarterback does best and you'll have better success, success out of him because of that.
- [51:52]
Katie Nolan
Who is a quarterback in the league right now that excites you, that interests you, that intrigues you, that you're like, I'm keeping an eye on this guy.
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Warren Moon
Well, there's a lot of, a lot of good ones, a lot of really good ones. I mean, of course, Patrick Mahomes, I've known him since he came into the league as a rookie. We were represented by the same, same agent. You look at Josh Allen and what he's able to do, how his career has evolved. Lamar Jackson, Jackson, a guy who some people wanted to put him at wide receiver when he came out of college, even though he wins a Heisman Trophy as a quarterback. But now he's won two MVPs. So there's so many good quarterbacks. Joe Burrow is somebody that's impressive to me, the way he plays. He's just so smooth and accurate with the football. You just got to stay healthy. And the quarterback position is very, very healthy in this league right now. A lot of good young ones, some guys that are getting into the prime of their careers, like the Josh, Allen, Collins and those guys, they're getting what, to be around 29, 30 years old. So that's kind of the prime of your career when you're a quarterback. So, yeah, this league is in very good shape that way.
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Katie Nolan
How has that position changed since when you played? I'm hearing about it a lot. People are always like, it's totally different. Do you feel like it's totally different?
- [52:59]
Warren Moon
It's. It's protected better.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. That would have been nice, huh?
- [53:03]
Warren Moon
Oh, my God.
- [53:03]
Katie Nolan
That would have been nice.
- [53:04]
Warren Moon
You know, there's a few less pains I would wake up in the morning. I think the fact that they've just opened the game up wide receivers, you know, the way they've taken the helmet out of the game, so you can't have big hits in the head, big hits across the middle anymore for receivers. So it's a quarterback receiver game. It's not the physical, hard game that was played when I. When I played the game. And it's opened it up. That's why these quarterbacks are throwing for all these yards. That's why these receivers are catching all these passes. And I love it. The league wants more scoring. They're getting more scoring because of it.
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Katie Nolan
But you could have used a little bit more protection. Used would have been nice if they let them stop hitting you so hard all the time.
- [53:44]
Warren Moon
See, when they fall on you and just land all their weight on you, you can't do that anymore. They'd land their weight on. And they say, take that war all the time. All the time.
- [53:53]
Katie Nolan
And they don't let them do that at all now. Not fair.
- [53:56]
Warren Moon
They have to try and jump off at the same time. They're knocking you just the ground.
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Katie Nolan
Amazing. Amazing. Warren Moon, thank you so much for being here. Incredible to meet you. You're an absolute legend. Thank you for everything you've done for the game.
- [54:06]
Warren Moon
Thanks for having me on.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Thank you.
- [54:08]
Warren Moon
Enjoy the game.
- [54:09]
Katie Nolan
Thanks. Go Pats.
- [54:11]
Warren Moon
Go Hawks.
- [54:14]
Katie Nolan
Joining us now on Super Bowl Radio Row. You know him, you love him. It's Donovan McNabb. Donovan, thank you for being here.
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Donovan McNabb
You know what? Thank you for having me. You know, the couch just seems so warm after Warren gets.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, he left it real warm for You.
- [54:27]
Donovan McNabb
It's that old age kicking in, so I guess it's contagious.
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Katie Nolan
So mean. So mean. Right out the gate.
- [54:33]
Donovan McNabb
He was one of my mentors, so I can always say that. But he's bald.
- [54:37]
Katie Nolan
He's so nice.
- [54:38]
Donovan McNabb
No, he's not.
- [54:39]
Katie Nolan
Yes, he is.
- [54:40]
Donovan McNabb
He's really not. No, I'm just joking.
- [54:42]
Katie Nolan
Donovan and I, for context, for the listener, worked together briefly.
- [54:45]
Donovan McNabb
Yes, briefly.
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Katie Nolan
Back at Fox Sports.
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Donovan McNabb
Absolutely.
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Katie Nolan
And I don't think I've seen you since then.
- [54:50]
Donovan McNabb
My kids have gotten. Gotten older and I've been there and been coaching them and supportive and.
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Katie Nolan
No, it's me who was gone. I wasn't saying you've been.
- [54:57]
Donovan McNabb
Well, I've been going around. I've been gone too.
- [54:59]
Katie Nolan
I mean, around. You were.
- [55:01]
Donovan McNabb
I've been. I've been. I've been busy. Yeah, I've been busy and still traveling and doing some stuff here and there. Spot on stuff, but nothing consistent like we were when we were at Fox.
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Katie Nolan
I know. Which was fun.
- [55:11]
Donovan McNabb
It was fun. It was fun. It was something I enjoyed doing and that's what I went to school for. And I ended up going and working at ESPN too. And so I just kind of fell off from there. And it's just, hey, everything has been great, man. Life is awesome.
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Katie Nolan
I know. And now you're here at Radio Row. Yeah, the. I feel like it's sports media reunion. I feel like it's 100%.
- [55:29]
Donovan McNabb
No, 100% in a room. Well, it's. The thing is, as we talked about working at Fox, it's a bunch of people that we work with with Fox, people I work with at espn, guys that I've played with. They're bringing their kids here on Media Road. Now I really feel old because. Because now their kids are like. Like 20, 25. And it's like, I remember when you were born.
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Katie Nolan
I know.
- [55:48]
Donovan McNabb
Like, this is bad.
- [55:49]
Katie Nolan
Leave them at home. Don't remind me how old I am.
- [55:52]
Donovan McNabb
But I still look great and feel awesome.
- [55:54]
Katie Nolan
I do, I do.
- [55:55]
Donovan McNabb
I feel awesome.
- [55:55]
Katie Nolan
You haven't aged a day since I last saw you. And again, that was like 2030 that I also. Yesterday we had Dion Dawkins on here. He was here with Campbells. I asked him, I was like, do you feel like this is an honor to be around Campbell's because of the. I just feel like the Chunky Soup legacy.
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Donovan McNabb
He didn't know the legacy.
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Katie Nolan
He. I mean, he went like, yeah. Which felt like maybe he didn't know the legacy. But to me, I'm like, I feel like We've been talking about Campbell's chunky soup since, you know, you did it.
- [56:23]
Donovan McNabb
Well, it's funny because I am one of the pioneers, and it's funny. I seen TD yesterday and TD was before me, and so. But TD didn't have his real mom, and. And so.
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Katie Nolan
And that was really the difference.
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Donovan McNabb
Yeah, I was one of the old school pioneers, the OGs, as they call it, that me and my mom was. Was on it. And so they've definitely taken it to another level and they've done well. Maybe we can rekindle old flames and bring it on back old school. You know, when they brought. When they brought the Kelsey's and had Mama Kelsey there, that was awesome. That was awesome. But I think the McNabs would have been able to battle them. Oh, yes.
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Katie Nolan
I like that.
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Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [57:05]
Katie Nolan
As like a mom versus mom. Yeah, that's interesting.
- [57:09]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah, let's write that down.
- [57:10]
Katie Nolan
We're coming up with ideas. They're all free. That's right. We're a creative team.
- [57:14]
Donovan McNabb
Talk to us.
- [57:15]
Katie Nolan
Let's talk about the quarterbacks in this super bowl we've got coming up.
- [57:20]
Donovan McNabb
Outstanding guys. Been on different journeys. Drake, May 2nd year, emerged from last year. Josh McDaniels coming in really gave him that opportunity where he could open up his game a little bit more. I enjoyed watching Drake May in North Carolina. Had a chance to talk to him. I believe in his sophomore year. I think he broke one of my records in the acc, which I played in the Big east, and then they moved over, but got a chance to talk to him and just get a little perspective of who he really is. And the kid's really got his head on his shoulders and people don't really know his background. Of his brothers and his one brother played in North Carolina basketball. I think they won a national championship. Hit. Hit one of the game winners. Then he had another brother. I think his whole family went to Carolina. His dad was a football player at North Carolina, and so he kind of followed suit. And where he's at right now, I mean, his pedigree. And so I. I enjoyed the progress in which Mike Vrabel and Drake Mann, what they're doing together in that coach quarterback combination. Now you look at Sam Darnold and his journey with the jets, with Carolina. I think the thing that emerged and kind of put him on a different path was the fact that when he went to 49ers, went to San Fran and played under Kyle Shanahan, under that offense, the structure, understanding, get the ball out, trust it, blah, blah, Blah. He now moves north of Minnesota and all of a sudden it's a whole different Sam Darnold. Obviously he didn't win against Detroit and lost in the playoffs and people want to talk about that. But then coming to Seattle where all of a sudden the whole offense completely changed. Jack Smith. Smith and Jigba all of a sudden elevated his game. Walker's out there looking like Herschel Walker. They've got running back by committee. I think both running backs, Charbonnet and Walker, I think both had a thousand yards rushing when everybody focused so much on their defense and how strong they are. They put up great numbers on offense.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah.
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Donovan McNabb
And Sam was their quarterback. And so to find those two teams here, his big storylines. But you know, it always comes down to this game where it's like well, he's had a great regular season but. Or whatever. So I'm really interested to see the coaching aspect now.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, talk to me.
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Donovan McNabb
It's going to come down to who's going to go forward on fourth down too much, who's not and going to take the point. Who's going to play kind of possession football where defense now Ben. But don't break. Hold you to three points or make you punt whatever it may be. But it's going to come down to three points that I think. I think Seattle wins this by three.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, how dare you.
- [60:01]
Donovan McNabb
Well, first of all I lost to the pitchers.
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Katie Nolan
I know, I was going to say when you lose to a team I wasn't going to bring it up but when you lose to a team in the super bowl, do you. Would you. Is there any circumstance stance under which you would ever root for that team later in the Super Bowl? There couldn't be.
- [60:14]
Donovan McNabb
Well, I mean like I said I, I've rooted for Drake May because I had a chance to meet him, talk to him. We sat down and talked for about 20 minutes at the ACC Awards out in Charlotte. But I, I rooted for him. But as far as me, I mean remember our game was almost 20 years ago.
- [60:32]
Katie Nolan
I know. Matter of fact it was stuff like that.
- [60:34]
Donovan McNabb
It was, it was 20 years ago. It was 20 years ago. 0405.
- [60:41]
Katie Nolan
Oh my God, Donovan, you just ruined my day.
- [60:44]
Donovan McNabb
Well, I mean it just this gray hair.
- [60:47]
Katie Nolan
Oh my God. 20 years.
- [60:49]
Donovan McNabb
The silver Fox is coming out over here and not because so much of always stress old age kicks in.
- [60:56]
Katie Nolan
What is it like quarterbacking in a Super Bowl? Is it. Does it feel experientially different to. Than other games? I mean I know the halftime is longer and all of that. But, like, is it crazy?
- [61:09]
Donovan McNabb
It is crazy. It's crazy early on in the week. Yeah. Because it's not business as usual. Like, I tried to treat it as, hey, it's just another week, but we didn't have so much media. We didn't have to go to the stadium and take the picture. We didn't have, you know, we got to do all of this, all the obligations on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, by Thursday, Friday. Now all of a sudden, you're back to focusing on practice. And so that's when, okay, let's get back to football. And you miss out on your Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then a little bit of Thursday, too, you know, but still, it's. It's one. If. If you've been through it, then you understand it. And for me, it was my first time. It was Tom's third, I think. And so they understood what they were. Were supposed to do. I think they cut a few things, they added something, and we were just kind of going along with our regulations, and it's like, hey, we got. We got this. And then we. I was like, oh, do I have to go like? It's like, yeah, you got to go like, oh, okay. Do they have to go like, no, they don't have to go. I'm like, okay. So, I mean, by Friday, I'm trying to get my head back in order. Okay, we're ready to go. We got walk through Saturday, and then Sunday, it's just like, okay, we're here. We're finally here. Because remember, I've been to four NFC championships.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, that's right.
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Donovan McNabb
And so, you know, it's like, oh, we're finally here. Yeah. And it's like, let's get to it. And by halftime, you're like, okay, we're good. Let's. Let's get back on track. And that halftime is like an hour and a half, and you're just sitting there looking at each other.
- [62:44]
Katie Nolan
I was going to say, what do you do during that time?
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Donovan McNabb
I've heard stories of guys taking off their uniform and, you know, showering and doing that. We all just sitting there. I think we might have some music playing or something. And we're just, like, looking at each other like, so how much more time? It's like, oh, well, 45 minutes.
- [63:01]
Katie Nolan
Like, okay, it sounds silly, but to me, I'm like, that's got to be a huge thing that messes with your rhythm when you play football so much.
- [63:10]
Donovan McNabb
Correct.
- [63:10]
Katie Nolan
Especially you're at the end of the season, so you've been playing, playing Playing, Playing. And then now you're just like, the rhythm is different and you're like.
- [63:18]
Donovan McNabb
And then when you do get out there, your warm up is cut short, and it's just like, okay, here we go. And so I think for the experience guys, and in this situation, both are not experienced.
- [63:28]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [63:29]
Donovan McNabb
So, you know, it's going to be interesting to see how they handle that halftime deal. And it's going to be an exciting halftime. You know, I'll be start working my salsa and shake the hips and give me some. Not just.
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Katie Nolan
I've been practicing my moves.
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Donovan McNabb
Okay. Oh, oh, okay.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's good. That's good. Hyping me up. I hope you're only listening to this on audio. Nobody watched the video of this moment. Oh, right now, now, again, not to open an old wound, but as somebody who lost a Super bowl to Bill Belichick, do you what was your reaction when he was not voted into the hall of Fame on his first ballot?
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Donovan McNabb
Unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable. And I mean, I really, to be honest, I don't even know what the criteria is. Like, I don't. I mean, first of all, I think I should be a Hall of Famer.
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Katie Nolan
Agree.
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Donovan McNabb
But you're talking about a guy that has rings. Not only just rings. I mean, he's got AFC championship appearances, he's got a Super bowl championship with, with the Giants. I mean, he's changed an organization for 20 years that nobody really had New England in that position at that particular point. And so you get him off the first ballot, don't vote him. All of a sudden, Bob Kraft, which is funny to me because Bob had been on the whole deal, and then now all of a sudden, he's not on it. So does that mean that Tom's not going to be a first ballot?
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Katie Nolan
It couldn't be.
- [64:59]
Donovan McNabb
But you have to follow suit.
- [65:01]
Katie Nolan
It couldn't be.
- [65:02]
Donovan McNabb
You have to follow suit. I, I, I said this on the Cam Newton show, which I don't, I don't agree with. I think Bill should be in. I think Tom should be in. What?
- [65:11]
Katie Nolan
Crazy. I know. I heard it and I was like, what do you mean? How is that possible?
- [65:15]
Donovan McNabb
Hey, just keep waiting, all right?
- [65:17]
Katie Nolan
I have to let you go before I do. Philly fans get a bad rap all the time in sports media. Everybody's mean to Philly fans. I wanted to give you a chance to, to say something nice about Philly fans.
- [65:26]
Donovan McNabb
I think they're great. They're awesome. They provide great energy. We love playing in front of them in our home stadium, you know, it's just. It's home field advantage.
- [65:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [65:35]
Donovan McNabb
I mean, people can say that about Oakland, and people can say that. Well, now, Las Vegas people can say that about a lot of different teams, but Philly fans are great.
- [65:44]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. They're. They're informed and they care. Can't say they don't care.
- [65:48]
Donovan McNabb
That is correct.
- [65:49]
Katie Nolan
They're very, very passionate.
- [65:51]
Donovan McNabb
Deeply passionate.
- [65:52]
Katie Nolan
Donovan McNabb, I'll vote you into the hall of Fame. They won't give me a vote, but if I get one, if I had.
- [65:58]
Donovan McNabb
One, too, I would vote myself.
- [65:59]
Katie Nolan
You're the best.
- [66:00]
Donovan McNabb
Thank you.
- [66:01]
Katie Nolan
Joining us now, WWE Superstar NFL Network co host Seth Rollins. Welcome to the program.
- [66:07]
Seth Rollins
Thank you.
- [66:08]
Katie Nolan
Thank you for being here. You're here to talk about WrestleMania returning to Las Vegas in April, and you're gonna be. You're on Good Morning Football Monday through Friday.
- [66:15]
Seth Rollins
We're talking about what everybody you want.
- [66:17]
Katie Nolan
I mean, look.
- [66:17]
Seth Rollins
Mania Football life.
- [66:19]
Katie Nolan
What's CM Punk? Can we talk about CM Punk?
- [66:22]
Seth Rollins
About old Phil? Sure.
- [66:23]
Katie Nolan
We had him on yesterday, and he had a lot to say about you, I feel like.
- [66:27]
Seth Rollins
Oh, really?
- [66:27]
Katie Nolan
He was very critical of your fandom of the Bears. What he said, why? I don't want to misquote him, but he basically said, you're not even from there, so why do you like the Bears so much? So I figured I would ask you that question.
- [66:41]
Seth Rollins
I'm from Iowa. Tell me what pro sports team I'm supposed to like.
- [66:45]
Katie Nolan
I think he said you were from Idaho, which I don't know if that was him trying to mess with that.
- [66:50]
Seth Rollins
He knows where I'm from. He knows I'm not from Iowa. Idaho. Either way, I don't have a dog in the fights.
- [66:57]
Katie Nolan
All right, and so you just picked. Did you pick as a child?
- [66:59]
Orange Cassidy
No.
- [66:59]
Seth Rollins
No. It was bestowed upon me by my grandfather and my father.
- [67:02]
Katie Nolan
And that's. That's respectable.
- [67:04]
Orange Cassidy
That's.
- [67:04]
Seth Rollins
That's how you live your life, Right? Loyalty.
- [67:06]
Katie Nolan
That's where you get your fandom.
- [67:08]
Seth Rollins
Exactly.
- [67:08]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. So, okay, that's. In defense of you, so that's good. I'm glad we got that out of the way.
- [67:13]
Seth Rollins
Out of the way.
- [67:14]
Katie Nolan
How did you feel about the Bears this season? What a season they had.
- [67:16]
Seth Rollins
What a season, man. I mean, this part of me, it's a little bittersweet being here, seeing, you know, the Seahawks in the super bowl, when I really felt like it could have been Chicago's year. But at the end of the day, I mean, it felt like a house money season. I felt like the Bears were a year ahead of Schedule. Anytime you get a new coach in there with no head coaching experience, and he takes his team from last in the division to first in division. This is not an easy division either. We're talking Green Bay packers. We're talking Detroit Lions. And the Vikings had a pretty great year last year. Obviously, the change at quarterback changed a lot in that team. But I love the season, the highlights. I mean, if you put together a highlight package of every team in the NFL. Chicago Bears, number one. I can't believe we were the big play team this year. I know, like, we were the big play team on offense and on defense. Led the NFL in takeaways and big plays on. I mean, second, maybe in big plays on offense, but that's. That's crazy.
- [68:12]
Katie Nolan
And a lot of heart attack plays at the end of a game. A lot of, like, comeback wins.
- [68:17]
Seth Rollins
Seven. Seven come from behind wins in the se. Regular season, postseason.
- [68:21]
Katie Nolan
What is that like as a fan? What's the experience of that this season of, like, being on the edge of your seat every Sunday, every time they play, waiting till the last second to come back and win?
- [68:31]
Seth Rollins
Well, it certainly makes things interesting. Yeah, I was begging, like, I was begging for the Cleveland Browns game. Like, just let us. Can we just, from start to finish, just win a football game, just dominate a game and just, like, can it be done in the third quarter? You know? But it was. I mean, it was crazy to see. You look at the Bengals game, you know, Williams to Loveland in the final seconds. There's a block field goal. Jake Moody won the Bears a football game at some point this season. Like Caleb Williams making throws that no other human being on the planet is making. I mean, it was. It was such a crazy season. I feel like I lost a lot of hair. My heart rate had real issues after Sunday. But at the end of the day, for once, as a Bears fan, we were coming out on top in these games, and so that was a welcome sight.
- [69:19]
Katie Nolan
Caleb Williams, you like him?
- [69:21]
Seth Rollins
Star.
- [69:22]
Katie Nolan
He's such a star.
- [69:23]
Seth Rollins
A star.
- [69:23]
Katie Nolan
I feel like he's had a. I feel like people are very tough on him. My personal theory is it's just because he paints his nails. That's one of the things it just feels like. I just want to give you a space to make a retort in defense of Caleb Williams, because I think he's done incredible things for your team.
- [69:38]
Seth Rollins
I don't have to defend Caleb Williams. He takes care of himself.
- [69:41]
Katie Nolan
So true.
- [69:41]
Seth Rollins
A grown man. If you watch him. I mean, last season he was a rookie. The Bears organization was a disaster. He's in you're. When you're the number one overall pick and you want to be flamboyant and paint your nails and do things differently, you're going to invite criticism and that's okay. He handled the criticism perfectly. There was at no point he was. He always took the high road every step of the way. And this season you want watched him become a leader. He became a leader on and off the field of this organization. And so he doesn't need me or anybody else to defend him. He led. He leads by example. He's his own person. Not only is he an incredible player, but he's a great human. He does a lot of charity work in the Chicagoland area. He's a good dude, a good teammate. And I think you saw that through the season. So I don't need to defend Caleb Williams. He's a stud. He's a star. He's a future of the NFL. He made that point time and time again with the way he played and the way he conducted himself this season.
- [70:39]
Katie Nolan
Well said. Let's talk about the. The big game. Capitalized the big game.
- [70:44]
Emmett Smith
Big game.
- [70:45]
Katie Nolan
Who you rooting for?
- [70:46]
Seth Rollins
I mean, I'm not rooting for anybody really. I think if there's any, any person I'm rooting for, it would be Sam Darnold.
- [70:53]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [70:53]
Katie Nolan
Cuz what a story.
- [70:54]
Seth Rollins
What a story. Yeah, I dig that. And it's a great comeback story. It's a story about a guy who had it all was cast aside. Everybody said, you know, he didn't have it. He's done, he's over. He's a career backup. He runs, you know, all over the place and ends up in Seattle taking a team that's really supposed to be a defensive minded team, which they are, great defense. And he turns them into perennial super bowl contender. And they were, they were the best team in the NFL. NFC arguably all season.
- [71:26]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And they kind of flew under the radar. I don't think at the beginning of the season anybody was talking because everybody.
- [71:30]
Seth Rollins
Everybody expected them to kind of like, you know, turn into a prune at some point.
- [71:35]
Donovan McNabb
Right.
- [71:35]
Seth Rollins
Everybody said, ah, Sam Darnold will eventually, as the season winds down, he's gonna, you know, he's gonna fall apart. And look, he's throwing a lot of interceptions. It's gonna catch up to him eventually. And then the postseason comes all. Sam Darnold in the postseason. We know how that goes. We saw how that went last year and the dude has been lights out.
- [71:53]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [71:53]
Seth Rollins
And so that's that's my story, and that's the guy that I'm rooting for on Sunday.
- [71:58]
Katie Nolan
Another team nobody expected to be here. I think the New England Patriots. Despite the.
- [72:01]
Seth Rollins
Oh, yeah.
- [72:02]
Katie Nolan
Organizational history in the super bowl, nobody was talking this year about the Patriots making it this far. I don't. I'm not saying I know they're the underdog. I'm not trying to lean into the Patriots being an underdog. I know nationally that's not a storyline anybody cares about. About. But what have you seen from Drake May? What are you. What have you seen from, like, Mike Vrabel that interests you about this?
- [72:21]
Seth Rollins
Patel was just. I mean, he was a stud on the field.
- [72:23]
Katie Nolan
Yep.
- [72:24]
Seth Rollins
And he was an incredible coach in Tennessee. Don't know what happened there, but they dropped the ball. They dropped the ball with Mike Vrabel, but he ended up right where he belongs, in my opinion. You know, this is. This is where he played most of his career, won his championships here. He's back. He's kind of taking the Patriots dynasty that was. And sort of revived it a little bit. And it's really an incredible job in one year as a head coach. That's. That's incredible. And Drake May, second year. Like, I think I might have some, like, kind of PTSD from Carolina quarterbacks with Mitch Trubisky as a Bears fan. So I was skeptical about Drake May coming out. And like, no offense to Drake May, but like some of these quarterbacks in that draft class, like Caleb and Jaden Daniels, like, they got some swag to them.
- [73:11]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And he's got more of like a silent swag.
- [73:15]
Seth Rollins
He's got something.
- [73:16]
Katie Nolan
He's got like, a quiet confidence.
- [73:17]
Seth Rollins
He's got a thing, you know, but, but, but the way he's been able to play this season under Josh McDaniels, he's play such efficient football throughout the regular season. It was really a marvel to watch. When you have a guy in his second season lead the league in completion percentage, that's incredible. And the jump from year one to year two, also incredible. So I've seen so much from him. Again, wasn't sold on him last year, certainly not out of the draft. That's my own personal bias. But after this year, talking about him as a possible mvp, we'll find out tonight at honors. I mean, there's nothing more you can say if he, he. Even if he doesn't win mvp, doesn't win the super bowl, the kids. He's the future of the organization for a long time to come.
- [74:04]
Katie Nolan
What are you doing for the Super Bowl? I know you've. I just. Any athlete I always assume can't be eating garbage the way that I am for a Super bowl game. But are you, like, chowing down on wings and mozzarella sticks and stuff?
- [74:17]
Seth Rollins
This year? I probably won't be.
- [74:19]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [74:20]
Seth Rollins
I tore my rotator cuff. Had surgery in October.
- [74:23]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [74:23]
Seth Rollins
I spent October till really after Christmas pretty much eating every pizza I could see and smell. And so it's time.
- [74:33]
Katie Nolan
Time to get back in.
- [74:34]
Seth Rollins
Yeah, it's. It's time to lock in.
- [74:36]
Katie Nolan
And that's. And that. And why would that be? Are you aiming to maybe. Are you going to be back.
- [74:40]
Seth Rollins
WrestleMania coming up.
- [74:41]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [74:41]
Seth Rollins
We'd like to be back by WrestleMania at some point, if not very close to after WrestleMania. The point is, whether it's. It's WrestleMania or after, the timeline does line up with my return from injury. So I got to get cleared. At the end of the day, it's not my decision. I just got to do everything I can, including not eat every pizza inside.
- [75:00]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [75:00]
Orange Cassidy
Right.
- [75:00]
Katie Nolan
That's step one.
- [75:01]
Seth Rollins
Get myself into position to be ready when they call my name.
- [75:04]
Katie Nolan
Okay. So you'll be eating a salad, sitting on the couch, watching this game.
- [75:08]
Seth Rollins
I actually am going to be at the game.
- [75:10]
Katie Nolan
Oh.
- [75:10]
Seth Rollins
I've never been to a Super bowl in person.
- [75:13]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [75:15]
Seth Rollins
I didn't know if I was ever going to go unless the Bears were playing in it. But working for NFL Network, good morning football. They said, hey, come to the game. Come watch the game. Bring your wife. I said, absolutely. Let's go.
- [75:26]
Katie Nolan
Can I tell you honestly, it's better to go when it's not your team.
- [75:29]
Seth Rollins
Oh, I bet.
- [75:30]
Katie Nolan
Just at least to get. If this is your first super bowl experience, maybe it won't be your last, but to get the experience before you go for your own team. Because when it's your own team, the crowd is different. They're not all fans of the team. Sometimes it's kind of corporate. And so you would. It's. I think it'd be a better. I think you're gonna have a great time.
- [75:48]
Seth Rollins
I'm excited to not. I mean, we talked about the Bears, the cardiac Bears, all season. I'm excited to just not be stressed.
- [75:54]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's. I'm stress eating on my couch.
- [75:56]
Seth Rollins
Yeah.
- [75:57]
Katie Nolan
I can't.
- [75:57]
Seth Rollins
Then I would be eating the chicken.
- [75:58]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [75:58]
Seth Rollins
No doubt about it.
- [75:59]
Donovan McNabb
Yeah.
- [75:59]
Katie Nolan
You wouldn't be able to do it. So it's almost like, thank God the Bears didn't make the Super Bowl. Let's not go left it's almost like, thank God. God they didn't make it. Cuz then you would have to eat bad food.
- [76:07]
Seth Rollins
I would say that. I can't say that out loud.
- [76:09]
Katie Nolan
Seth Rollins, thank you so much for coming by. It was very nice to meet you. Enjoy the game. Have fun and. And bring some luck to my Patriots, would you?
- [76:16]
Seth Rollins
Oh, you're Pats fans. I should have got that. I should have sensed it. I'll do my best.
- [76:21]
Katie Nolan
Thank you. Joining us now, what a pairing we've got here, right? We got Brandon Aubrey, Cowboys kicker, and Tim Howard, obviously legend, goalkeeper for the U.S. men National Team, promoting Verizon paired up together. Because when you're with Verizon, no one gets you closer to the biggest sporting events. And you two, obviously football. And football. You're bridging the gap between, I imagine, the super bowl and the World cup, which is coming our way.
- [76:43]
Brandon Aubrey
That's right, Exactly.
- [76:44]
Emmett Smith
Nobody brings it closer. So get on. Getting on the sideline, getting you in the stadium, seeing magical moments is pretty special. So credit to Verizon for what they're doing.
- [76:53]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, at first when I saw your two names, I was like, oh, the kicking sports. But then I'm like, oh, you can use your hands because as a goalie, so it doesn't actually fit as well as I would like it to, but we make it work. Anyway, let's talk about this World cup before we get to the Super Bowl. Are we going to be good?
- [77:09]
Emmett Smith
I think we're going to be good. Yeah. We got a really good team, really talented team. World cup is about talent and momentum and luck. And you sort of. It's hard to predict, but I like this team. I think they're supremely talented. If and when they put it all together, you ride that momentum of the home crowd. And we've seen it over the years. The home nation just gets a boost and a lift. So we're hoping that we can push those boys over the edge. They're talented. They have what it takes. So here's to hoping.
- [77:37]
Katie Nolan
The whole goal for our podcast is to try to get people who seem like they could be interested in sports more interested in sports. So if you could give us, like, a name to look for in the World cup on our team so that when we're all out drinking and celebrating, we can go, oh, we know him.
- [77:52]
Emmett Smith
Correct. So the obvious one is Kristen Pulisic. He's the. He's the golden child and he's been fantastic. Chris Richards in the back, he's a monster. Plays at Crystal palace. And Weston McKinney, who is. Who is a name that we know but is having a sensational season at Juventus. So I think he'll come.
- [78:09]
Warren Moon
Good.
- [78:09]
Katie Nolan
All right. Good.
- [78:10]
Orange Cassidy
Helpful.
- [78:10]
Katie Nolan
Write those down, everybody. Brandon, you are. We. We've talked about you a lot on our podcast.
- [78:15]
Donovan McNabb
Well, thank you.
- [78:16]
Katie Nolan
Because we have a producer. Her name is Isabella. We have gotten her into football this year. It's her first year. She comes in fully blind, blinder than you would even believe. And she drafted her fantasy team for the. We have like a. A team, a league for our podcast. And she represents our team. We let her draft it. We let her set the lineup. You were her kicker.
- [78:36]
Brandon Aubrey
Let's go.
- [78:37]
Katie Nolan
She won the league.
- [78:38]
Emmett Smith
Amazing.
- [78:38]
Brandon Aubrey
Let's go. I love being late.
- [78:40]
Katie Nolan
She was. She loves you because you were so automatic. What is it about that foot that makes it happen?
- [78:48]
Brandon Aubrey
Yeah, I think that the background. I've been kicking balls my whole life.
- [78:51]
Katie Nolan
Same.
- [78:52]
Brandon Aubrey
And it just. It comes natural to me at this point. I don't try to overthink it. I focus on my mental process of what I need to do to put my body in the right position to make good contact with the football as opposed to where we're at in the game, what, what the score is, what happens if I miss. So that I think the mental process is key to being very consistent on the field, whatever sport you're playing, whatever. Even in the workplace, whatever it is you're doing.
- [79:16]
Katie Nolan
So you just don't let the moment get to you. You're just focused on the ball.
- [79:20]
Brandon Aubrey
Exactly. I'm talking to myself in my head from the minute details of where I line my hips up all the way from the second I'm walking onto the field until the ball's kicked. And it's not until the ball leaves me, my foot that I start thinking about the game again.
- [79:33]
Katie Nolan
When in your kicking career did you lock into the little pre kick stepping routine?
- [79:40]
Donovan McNabb
For.
- [79:40]
Brandon Aubrey
For my routine, I had one year in the USFL where I was kind of winging it. And then I talked to John Carney, who's a big name in the kicking kicking world. Notre Dame grad, 23 year veteran in the NFL. Just absolute legend. He kind of helped me refine my process and figure out exactly what I need to be telling myself as I go through it. Because in order to be consistent, you got to do the same things over and over and over again. So needed to figure it out. And going into year two of my USFL season, that's when I had that mental process mapped out for myself.
- [80:11]
Katie Nolan
And so what it. What is your. Is it like one step to the side, three steps to the back? What are your. What's the choreography?
- [80:17]
Brandon Aubrey
It's actually pretty. Pretty simple. There's two different types of kickers. There's one step kicker, which means you take one step step to the ball and then kick it, or two step, or three step kickers take three steps to the ball and then you kick it. I'm a three step kicker, which means I need to get far enough away from the ball where I can take three steps. The first one being a baby jab. So I take three steps backwards and two steps sideways. And you want those to be as natural as possible so you can repeat them over and over again.
- [80:40]
Emmett Smith
Who the heck is a one step kicker?
- [80:41]
Katie Nolan
I know, that's weird.
- [80:43]
Brandon Aubrey
Yeah, Bucker's very good at it.
- [80:46]
Katie Nolan
One step. It does not feel like enough steps.
- [80:49]
Emmett Smith
Not to me. I'm with him.
- [80:50]
Katie Nolan
What is the length of a field goal that you'd go, I'm not trying that. I couldn't possibly try that. Like 70 yards. I feel like you could kick so far.
- [80:58]
Brandon Aubrey
Yeah. Game day. I get a little more juice, so it just goes a little bit further. If I make good contact. 72, 73. That'd be absolute max.
- [81:06]
Donovan McNabb
What. What.
- [81:07]
Emmett Smith
What's the longest you've made in. In Tr. Like off the cuff in. In practice?
- [81:11]
Brandon Aubrey
Yeah, I. I don't go past 60 in. In practice because once you start going back outside of your range, you got to change a little bit, so.
- [81:19]
Warren Moon
Interesting.
- [81:19]
Emmett Smith
Got it. I don't want to.
- [81:20]
Katie Nolan
You know, you're not just always going, look how far I could go.
- [81:23]
Emmett Smith
I would think I'd be at 80. Let's try. Let's have a try.
- [81:26]
Katie Nolan
I'm going to do it from the other end zone. Just to see. Just to see.
- [81:29]
Emmett Smith
Okay.
- [81:30]
Katie Nolan
How long could you make a field goal?
- [81:32]
Emmett Smith
You know what? Here's the thing. I haven't tried one. We used to. A lot of the games we played for the national team, we played in NFL stadiums. Bigger crowds, more. More seats. So we'd always be in the big stadiums. And obviously during. During practice, we get the soccer balls out and we try and kick them. So I don't know, 50 yards maybe.
- [81:50]
Warren Moon
Who knows?
- [81:50]
Katie Nolan
But 50 yards, maybe. That's kind of long.
- [81:52]
Emmett Smith
But it's a soccer ball. Soccer ball is easy to kick. Footballs are hard to me.
- [81:55]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I mean, they're shaped weird.
- [81:56]
Emmett Smith
Shaped weird.
- [81:57]
Katie Nolan
They don't make any sense to most of us. All right, who's going to win the Super Bowl?
- [82:02]
Brandon Aubrey
Seahawks, I think, personally, I just think they're the better team. They're completely. They have. They're great in all three phases. They don't make mistakes, they don't commit penalties. They're very hard to defend, and they've got a lot of fantastic players. Now, the Patriots, as well, have a lot of fantastic players, but I just think the Seahawks are. Have a little bit of an edge.
- [82:21]
Katie Nolan
And, Tim, you said the Pats.
- [82:22]
Emmett Smith
Yeah. I think the money's on the Seahawks. But here's why I like. I like the Pats. And coming from a Giants fan, you say why they gave us two Super Bowls.
- [82:29]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [82:29]
Emmett Smith
So I love the Pats. I love the Pats.
- [82:32]
Warren Moon
I hope.
- [82:33]
Emmett Smith
And Rabel's amazing, so.
- [82:35]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I love what a year that he's had. I mean, what a season he's been coaching. You're a Giants fan, huh?
- [82:41]
Emmett Smith
Let's. I think we're rapping, aren't we?
- [82:43]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, we have to. I hate. I hate. I hate you. I know. You guys suck now. You don't suck bad enough for me. I hate the Giants so much. Brandon and Tim, thank you so much for being here on behalf of Verizon. Don't forget, you guys, when you're with Verizon, no one gets you closer to the biggest sporting events. You're both absolutely legends, and it's very nice to meet you.
- [83:00]
Emmett Smith
Thank you. So good to see you.
- [83:01]
Katie Nolan
Thank you for being here. All right, we're keeping it rolling here on. On Radio Row. At Radio Row in Radio Row. I don't know what preposition you're supposed to use.
- [83:08]
Orange Cassidy
We are in it.
- [83:09]
Katie Nolan
We are atop Radio Row here. Joining us now, Orange Cassidy and Toni Storm, Perhaps one of AEW's most unlikely duos. You've paired up in recent weeks as a mixed tag team, forming an association that has become AEW's hottest pairing. OC and Toni Storm. Thank you for being here. Welcome to Casuals. Thank you for having us. Yeah, this is lovely.
- [83:30]
Orange Cassidy
I've been here before. This is my. This is my second time. So you. You're new.
- [83:36]
Katie Nolan
Mr. Cassidy, who would you say is the most Orange Cassidy football player of all time? Oh, I've got a suggestion.
- [83:46]
Orange Cassidy
Well, so I don't. Oh, well, I would love to hear your suggestion first.
- [83:49]
Katie Nolan
Maybe Jay Cutler.
- [83:51]
Orange Cassidy
Yes. That's. Wow. Okay, so I don't. I think not a player, but I think a person who's heavily involved in football and snubbed. I believe Bill Belichick is pretty much Orange Cassidy to a T. I actually. Dude, I actually did that famous, you know, asking the question. He's like, well, next on to Tennessee, whatever hell was it like on Cincinnati? And I did that same exact thing you did for a promo. Yeah, because we were in Cincinnati the next thing. And so Bill Belichick definitely embodies my vibe. Like, we're both really smart, right. And we're good at what we do.
- [84:29]
Katie Nolan
It's the first thing.
- [84:30]
Orange Cassidy
We just don't brag about it until right now, here with you.
- [84:33]
Katie Nolan
You said snubbed. I hate to bring it up again, but as a Patriots fan, don't you feel he was snubbed for the hall of Fame?
- [84:40]
Orange Cassidy
I mean, doesn't everybody who is. Who's out there being like, nah, that's the right decision.
- [84:44]
Katie Nolan
At least six people, because that's how many needed to not vote him. This guy is one of the best coaches in the NFL of all time. Eight won eight Super Bowls as at total six as a head coach. Just an unmatched resume was up to be voted into the hall of Fame this year. And in the first round of voting, not enough people voted for. For him. And so he did not make it. Story of my life. Yep, I like him already. I need to see this man. Oh, I mean.
- [85:15]
Orange Cassidy
Oh, you. I'll show you a picture.
- [85:17]
Donovan McNabb
Show me the.
- [85:18]
Katie Nolan
You sure do need to see this man. He's also dating a. Well, we don't have to get into that, but he's recently started dating somebody a little controversial. She's a little young. Oh dear. For him. But maybe they're happy. Maybe they're happy and in love. Let me try and find you the most Bill Belichick possible picture. Well, this is him and his. This is him and his girlfriend now. Oh, yeah. Bloody hell. He is a. He is a stunner, isn't he? Yes, he's all right. Yeah. No, I do. I have seen these pictures. Now it all makes sense. Yes.
- [85:51]
Orange Cassidy
He used to wear cut off sweatshirts on the sidelines. And I think, didn't they tell the NFL tell him to stop or something like that?
- [85:57]
Katie Nolan
I think it was that they were just trying to sell. He did it as like a. An act of rebellion of like, I don't want you to use me to sell your sweatshirt. Cut him up.
- [86:05]
Orange Cassidy
I think I don't so remember pretty much badass. You know what I'm saying?
- [86:09]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, he's very. Sound like you. Are you going to watch the Super Bowl, Tony? Yes. Yes. I'm. I'm going to get some snacks. I'm going to get some. Dorotos and some dip, and I'm going to try the Super Bowl. What sort of dip are you putting those Doritos into? I'm gonna get some cheese dip. Garlic dip. Yeah. What do you recommend? I've never dipped a Dorito. I usually. I think a Doritos got so much flavor on it, and I don't. I don't want to set the precedent for everybody else. I don't. I don't yuck anyone's yum. I just usually will eat a Dorito straight. Oh, you can never have enough dip.
- [86:43]
Brandon Aubrey
Oh.
- [86:44]
Orange Cassidy
Can I change everyone's world?
- [86:45]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, please.
- [86:47]
Orange Cassidy
So at the super bowl this year, I would like you to try the orange Cassidy special.
- [86:51]
Katie Nolan
What's that?
- [86:51]
Orange Cassidy
And that is you got to get munchos. Big bag of munchos. You know what munchos are?
- [86:55]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, but I. But I don't think I've ever had one.
- [86:58]
Orange Cassidy
Well, guess what. Get yourself a bag of munchos, and then get yourself some queso dip.
- [87:02]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [87:03]
Orange Cassidy
Tostitos. Queso dip. Take that muncho, dip it in the queso dip, and eat it. You're welcome.
- [87:09]
Katie Nolan
Sounded like he was gonna say something revolutionary, and all you really said was take a chip and put it into the.
- [87:13]
Orange Cassidy
Have you had the chip with.
- [87:15]
Katie Nolan
Down for me?
- [87:16]
Orange Cassidy
Have you had the chip with the dip?
- [87:17]
Katie Nolan
I have not.
- [87:18]
Orange Cassidy
Well, then you can't tell me it's not revolutionary until you tried it.
- [87:22]
Katie Nolan
We have a game we've been playing with people that I'm actually kind of interested to have Tony play. Now, orange you could play if you wanted to.
- [87:30]
Orange Cassidy
No, no, no. This is your show.
- [87:32]
Katie Nolan
It's called. I know it is. You have to say no.
- [87:33]
Orange Cassidy
It's your show. It's your show.
- [87:34]
Katie Nolan
No, I know that. No, I know that. It's called take it or leave it. Okay. What I'm going to have you do is reach into this page box, and I would say, probably go on this side. Okay. On the paper, there's going to be what we call a take. It's like. It'll be like, you know, the Patriots are the best team in the NFL. It won't be that. But. And then you would say you're going to take it, which means you'll. You agree with what it says on the paper, and you want to defend that. Make that argument or you'll leave it. Which means you throw it into the. You disagree with it, so you throw it away. Okay, here I go. Here she goes.
- [88:04]
Orange Cassidy
Why is it a. Why is it a children's wooden block?
- [88:06]
Katie Nolan
It was all they had.
- [88:08]
Orange Cassidy
Somebody painted that, huh?
- [88:09]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Brady, the skip intro button is extremely disrespectful. Yes, it's very disrespectful to the performance art. She took it. She took the take. You want to make another argument for it or just that I think we should go back to vhs? I don't like all this Internet. Let's do another one. You're good at this. Take it or leave it. Nachos are a cleaner, more versatile and thus better game day snack than wings. Doritos. I agree with this. Nachos. That's all. The heated Doritos, the melted dip. Just what we were talking about. This is fun. Yeah. Keep going.
- [88:50]
Orange Cassidy
I have a controversial take.
- [88:51]
Katie Nolan
Go on. What's that?
- [88:53]
Orange Cassidy
You want? Should we do my new segment, Orange Cassidy's Controversial.
- [88:55]
Katie Nolan
Welcome to our new segment here on Casuals. It's Orange Cassidy's controversial take Take.
- [89:00]
Orange Cassidy
Wings aren't good for anything.
- [89:02]
Donovan McNabb
What?
- [89:03]
Orange Cassidy
I don't like wings.
- [89:04]
Katie Nolan
Flying, sticky fingers.
- [89:06]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah, like, what are we doing here? Like a. I'm going to rip it apart.
- [89:09]
Katie Nolan
Like, what about a boneless wing?
- [89:11]
Orange Cassidy
That's not really a wing, is it? It's a boneless wing. It's a piece of.
- [89:13]
Katie Nolan
You want to be pedantic?
- [89:14]
Orange Cassidy
It's a hunk. It's a hunk of meat.
- [89:16]
Katie Nolan
Okay, so you don't like.
- [89:17]
Orange Cassidy
End. End of segment.
- [89:18]
Katie Nolan
Back to that segment. Back to the other segment. That's not the spirit.
- [89:22]
Orange Cassidy
How do you.
- [89:25]
Katie Nolan
Come on. You don't like getting into the chicken. You don't like chicken fingers?
- [89:29]
Orange Cassidy
I definitely don't like chicken fingers.
- [89:30]
Katie Nolan
You don't like meat fingers?
- [89:32]
Orange Cassidy
No.
- [89:34]
Katie Nolan
Missing out.
- [89:35]
Orange Cassidy
I saw somebody eating wings with rubber gloves the other day, and I was like, that's pretty smart. All right. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- [89:41]
Katie Nolan
Prince was the greatest halftime performer in super bowl history. Well, you didn't see me and Wayne Newton's super bowl halftime performance. We went skinny dipping. Disagree.
- [89:51]
Orange Cassidy
It took him forever to fill that pool up.
- [89:54]
Katie Nolan
Yes. I think she might be the best at take it or leave it that we've ever had. I feel like this segment may have been made for you.
- [90:03]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah.
- [90:03]
Katie Nolan
Can you give me one more? Give me one more.
- [90:06]
Orange Cassidy
So now we're pushing it.
- [90:07]
Katie Nolan
I know I have to. We can always cut it out. Podcast episodes should be an hour long at most. With you. Yes. I can't say that for everyone. Some people absolutely drag my soul. I don't know where to put this.
- [90:19]
Orange Cassidy
One more. Come on, one more.
- [90:20]
Donovan McNabb
Come on.
- [90:21]
Katie Nolan
Now you're pushing it. Do you want to do one?
- [90:25]
Orange Cassidy
No. I want you to do them all.
- [90:26]
Katie Nolan
I would pay five times as much for a microwave where everything is just half as loud. Buttons, door, cooking, everything. I don't use the microwave. Very bad for you.
- [90:43]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah.
- [90:44]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [90:44]
Emmett Smith
Who wrote these?
- [90:45]
Katie Nolan
Brady.
- [90:46]
Emmett Smith
Brady.
- [90:47]
Katie Nolan
I know. That one seems really.
- [90:49]
Brandon Aubrey
These are.
- [90:50]
Orange Cassidy
These are incredible.
- [90:51]
Katie Nolan
I probably should have.
- [90:52]
Orange Cassidy
How many are in here? How many in here? Brady?
- [90:54]
Katie Nolan
There's a lot.
- [90:56]
Orange Cassidy
We're gonna do the whole thing. Go ahead.
- [90:57]
Katie Nolan
Oh, no. It is harsh. Disagree. Leaving a shopping cart in the middle of a parking lot should be punishable by 24 hours in prison. No, that's. That's the joy of life. You leave your shop. Never left it. That's what they're for. You leave your shopping cart. Well, who else is gonna take it?
- [91:15]
Orange Cassidy
Yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing more in life I love than leaving a shopping cart in the middle of the.
- [91:21]
Katie Nolan
Do I look like I do that? Yeah.
- [91:24]
Orange Cassidy
You got time for that? Do you do the push and just let it. See where it goes?
- [91:28]
Katie Nolan
She puts it, like, right behind someone's car so they can't leave, and she inconveniences.
- [91:33]
Orange Cassidy
That's a classic Tony bit.
- [91:34]
Katie Nolan
Listen, you two, at first don't make sense, and then after five minutes, make perfect sense. I love this. I'm into this.
- [91:42]
Orange Cassidy
Like, peanut butter and chocolate. Like peanut butter and jelly and.
- [91:48]
Katie Nolan
Which one? You're naming things that make perfect sense right out the gate. You're naming things that are famously perfect together. So I wouldn't know that. I would use that as the example, but thank you both for being here. What would you say, like, peanut butter and celery? Which one is the celery? Ah, that makes a lot of.
- [92:05]
Orange Cassidy
How dare you?
- [92:06]
Katie Nolan
I know.
- [92:08]
Orange Cassidy
That's the worst insult I've ever had.
- [92:10]
Katie Nolan
Healthy and crunchy, negative calories.
- [92:12]
Orange Cassidy
Now, see, she feels negative calories. See how positive she is.
- [92:15]
Katie Nolan
Hot girls love celery.
- [92:16]
Orange Cassidy
Do they?
- [92:17]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, because it's. It takes more calories to. To burn it than it is to eat it.
- [92:22]
Orange Cassidy
You definitely look like a person who takes celery, cuts it up, puts peanut butter on the inside. It puts a little raisins on top. Are you that person?
- [92:29]
Katie Nolan
What you're saying is I look like I'm in great shape, and you're absolutely right.
- [92:32]
Donovan McNabb
Right.
- [92:32]
Katie Nolan
Best shape of my life. You do burn a lot of calories. Yeah, I do.
- [92:35]
Brie Bella
You do.
- [92:36]
Katie Nolan
All right, you two enjoy a day that's.
- [92:38]
Orange Cassidy
We're not leaving. This is comfortable.
- [92:41]
Katie Nolan
This thing's going to run you ragged. Good luck. You are good company. Good. So are you. Thank you for everything and just so beautiful. Such a stunning presence coming from you and great at takes. You're very good at takes. You got a future in sports media. We should have a coffee later. Yeah, we should. Make me want to talk like that. I do really want to talk like that. I'm going to for the rest of the day. Okay. Bye. Bye.
- [93:00]
Orange Cassidy
Thanks for the compliment, I guess. Okay.
- [93:02]
Donovan McNabb
Bye.
- [93:05]
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Chris
I love them all equally.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, wow. One thank, one thank and one compliment.
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Chris
Exactly.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. How could we possibly pick? Certainly wasn't Mina Kimes. You know, go Pats. But I do want to make sure that we get Isabella, your Super bowl prediction. Look, you had some really strong weeks in terms of picking things when it came to football games. You had a less strong week. But I think I believe in you and so I don't want to put any pressure on you. Maybe we start out with some prop predictions. One thing I know they're gonna ask is what color the Gatorade will be when the winning team dumps the Gatorade on their coach or whatever. So what color do you think the Gatorade's gonna be? I'm feeling red. I think it's gonna be red. Okay, the next thing I want you to pick. Charlie Puth is singing the national anthem. They have set the over under for the run time of that at 120.5 seconds. Do you think it will be longer than that or shorter than that? Oh, this is a hard one because I don't even know if I've heard Charlie Booth sing. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say it's gonna be, like, only a few seconds under it. Okay. She's taking the under. Last year, John Batiste. It was long. It was a really long one. I remember when he started, when he got into the anthem, I was like, oh, I hope everybody took the over. This is quite, quite a performance. Okay, now that we've gotten all the big analysis out of the way, who's winning the Super Bowl? Isabella, I won't. Look, you don't have to say. You can pick whoever you. Who's gonna win the Super Bowl? You know, after a lot of thought, I think the pates are gonna win. Let's go paint.
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Chris
Thank goodness.
- [98:26]
Katie Nolan
You know, and I really. I'm not gonna lie. There was a minute last night where I was really thinking, and I was like, I don't know. I mean, like the Seahawks, but, like, I think it's gonna be the Paints.
- [98:37]
Brie Bella
Sorry.
- [98:38]
Katie Nolan
It's gotta be. It's gotta be. We are sorry, but we aren't sorry. We're. We're mostly sorry that we're not sorry. Yeah, you know.
- [98:45]
Brie Bella
Exactly.
- [98:45]
Katie Nolan
Exactly. Oh, that warmed my whole heart. I really was like, you know, she can pick whoever she wants. I gave myself a pep talk on my way here today. Like, she can pick the Seahawks. It's. You know, the odds are in their favor, and that's her right. And I. And that's what you got to do. If you love someone, you let them go. You let them go and pick freely. But she picked the pates. Oh, I'm feeling good, you guys. I really hope the Patriots win this Super Bowl. No matter what happens, we will be back here with you next week with two more incredible episodes of Casuals. Brady, am I allowed to tell them who we have as a guest next week?
- [99:18]
Brandon Aubrey
Yes. It's going to happen.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. Next week. Noah Khan, incredible famous music artist. I'm going to interview him later tonight. He is the Sirius XM concert here in San Francisco. So I'm gonna go check out Brad. Are you sticking around for the show? No. I thought he was gonna say yes. He has to fly home, but I'll be there. We'll be listening to Noah Khan, and then next week, we'll have him on the show. Very excited about this. All right. I hope everybody enjoyed our Radio Row content. We love you. We mean it. Chris. Isabella. I miss you, Isabella. I'll see you soon. I'll be back. Be back next week. I love you all. I mean it. Thanks for listening to Casuals. Bye. Make their hearts skip a beat. This Valentine's Day with Edible. With same day delivery or local pickup, effortless gifting is just a click away. Choose from iconic chocolate dipped strawberries, Fresh Arrangements, or decadent baked treats for your someone special order at Edible or your local store. This message is brought to you by Cottonell. Cottonelle leaves you feeling so clean, you'll want to come clean about everything else. Like the fact that your home gym is actually just where you keep your laundry. Your booty deserves the best, and the Cottonelle toilet paper and Flushable Wipes duo use cleaning ripples to clean better and leave you feeling comfortably dry. It's the clean that makes you finally admit you still own a pair of cargo shorts you claim are vintage. Come clean with Cottonelle.