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Casuals with Katie Nolan
Super Bowl Parties, Discount Male Enhancement Surgery, and Shipping Cooper DeJean | with Mina Kimes
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Hello! Welcome to the podcast that survived a Super Bowl party in Philly. Today, Katie ponders what happens when Swifties experience sports heartbreak for the first time, and calls for empathy and support. Then Mina Kimes joins the show (10:58) to break down Nelly, the Chainsmokers, and a wild week of Super Bowl Parties in New Orleans, score bugs, Tom Brady, and FOX's presentation of the game, and then eventually the game itself. Who better than Mina to contextualize the greatness of the Eagles' defensive performance, and Saquon Barkley's record-setting season? Plus, Katie and Mina get into celebrity girlfriends for Cooper DeJean, early Gatorade baths, sad Super bowl exit outfits, Kendrick Lamar, BlueSky, MVP votes, Aaron Rodgers, following the Philadelphia police scanner postgame, and how Chad Johnson claims to have added the "double ocho" - eight inches for $8,000. Seriously. And we can't forget, Super Bowl Bingo recap.
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Katie Nolan
Bridget Jones.
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Mina Kimes
It's time to live this Galentine's day.
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Katie Nolan
Make a date with Peacock. I've set you up on Tinder. What? You're welcome. You can call me Rockstar Bridget Jones. But you can call her Mummy.
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Mina Kimes
Experience the final chapter of Bridget's unforgettable journey.
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Katie Nolan
By all that's holy, Bridget Jones, you are a brilliant woman.
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Chris
Embrace the chaos.
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Mina Kimes
Enjoy your weekend, Mrs. Dawson.
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Katie Nolan
Bridget Jones, Mad about the Boy Streaming.
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Mina Kimes
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Katie Nolan
Hello and welcome to Casuals, the podcast that wants to help you care about sports a normal amount. I'm Katie Nolan. I'm your host. We'll be joined in a little bit by one of my dearest friends, who actually also happens to be an incredibly talented NFL analyst. Mina Kimes is here. Very exciting. I know a lot of people were waiting for this episode. Here's some things we might talk about. The super bowl, all the things that come with the Super Bowl. We're gonna put a nice little bow on the NFL season. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. What's happening there? What's the future? Montoya, por favor. If you know, you know the new women's 1v1 tournament that started last night. These are all topics we might get to. As always, a reminder, you can reach out to us with questions or whatever else your heart desires. Except pictures of your penis. The email address is casuals with Katie nolanmail.com the voicemail inbox number that you're going to save in your phone as casuals. Or you can just save it as Katie Nolan. Maybe one night you just get drunk and you gimme a call. It's 646-801-0043. And then on socials we are CasualsThePodcast. So IG T. I don't think we're on X. Somebody nod or shake. We're not. We're not. I still am in spirit. In, in or not. What's the opposite of spirit? The shell of myself exists there if you need to find. Doesn't say much. But you know who does say much? Me. It's the yap Hello. We have to start off every podcast with me yapping. And today's I. So last night I saw, you know, sometimes you look at. You're on social media on whatever feed, and you see a post, and it's like, oh, this is chapter three of something that I don't know about. I have to go back and figure out where this came from. I encountered a post about New Heights, the podcast that's hosted by Travis and Jason Kelsey. And I say that, like, you have to. If you know this one, you probably know that one. I saw people tweeting about being frustrated with them, and they couldn't believe they'd taken down a post. And I was like, I love drama. It's that. That. What's that? Gif. I love mess. Marie Kondo, anybody? Okay, so that's me. So I dive into the drama. Turns out after the super bowl, the New Heights social media team posted a graphic basically congratulating the Eagles on winning the Super Bowl. And there was a quote from Jason on it that was like, these people are basically my family. A lot of these guys are my family. And that was. I don't know. That was a weird choice of a quote, but it was like pictures of him as the Eagles. It was basically what we've all seen when a company or whatever just puts out a logo that's like, this happened sports thing. And so I wouldn't have blinked twice at it, but I guess apparently the Swifties did not like that. They were upset that New Heights, a podcast that presumably brought them into sports and kind of assigned them to the Chiefs de facto, because that's who Taylor Swift was dating. And then they're celebrating the Chiefs essentially losing. And they didn't like that. The. The. The quote referenced her. Jason's family, because Travis is Jason's family. Anyway, the Swifties got really loud and mad about it, and then the post was taken down. Now then I saw a post from an Eagles fan who likes New Heights who was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I understand that the reaction was outsized, but. But taking it down like before Taylor Swift started dating Travis Kelce, New Heights had, like, half Chiefs fans. I don't know the number breakdown, but presumably half Chiefs fans, half Eagles fans, because it was these two brothers who had history with these two teams. And so I've been here since the beginning. I love the Eagles. I think I deserved that. Congratulations. And so did Jason. This is Jason's team. And. And I was fascinated by this dynamic. And I realized, I think we are watching Swifties Deal with sports heartbreak for the very first time. This is potentially fascinating, right? Because again, assuming that a lot. This influx of female viewers to the NFL presumably came because of Taylor Swift. And Taylor Swift, the easiest pipeline, if you're coming into the NFL, you're going to the Chiefs. So all these young women are Chiefs fans. They enter in a year that they win the Chiefs, win the Super Bowl. Their first season of them paying attention. They won a Super Bowl. And I'm sure they had heard last season, the one before that one, they had won the Super Bowl. So here they are, their second year as a fan, they get to the super bowl again, and they're like, this is what it is, dude. This is what being a fan is. It rules. You just win all the time. And then they lost. They lost bad. They lost boring. Which I think is the worst way to lose. They lost bad. And now Swifties are like, what is this feeling like? Cause this is an an L. Like a an L. You can't deny this isn't. Somebody else won. And there were eight options, and they picked this one. And it was by the judges. As in music, things normally are like award shows. This is like, no, you lost. You got to play. You didn't play well enough and you lost. And that is, I think veteran sports fans, even the most casual can. Can attest to, like, that blows. That sucks. I remember when the Bruins lost, when the. The Blackhawks in the super. In the super bowl, in the Stanley cup, they like, scored two goals in a span of like, something seconds and the Bruins blew it. I remember thanking my lucky stars I didn't have to go on TV and like forward face and talk about this. I was so upset that there was like nothing rational that I could say on television. I was grateful to be able to wallow in my emotions. And I think Swifties, I think you need to know, like, this is a part of it. This is the part that sucks. But you gotta contain yourself and limit the damage in these moments. So last night, or maybe it was this morning, I see that C.J. gardner Johnson, I guess he had posted on his Instagram story a picture of what looked like him like confronting Travis Kelce during the. The game. And it said, I want to quote it right? Should have stayed with that thick shit. Many believing. Obviously this is an. A reference to his ex girlfriend. Look, you're not going to catch me out here defending cj. Gj. I can tell you this guy's very good at. Off the opposing team's fan base. I don't Know what he did to the 49ers a year or two ago. But I can promise you he did something. Because the man I live with, not a fan of cj, gj. He seems to be very good at getting under people's skin, which is a skill in sports. And you can have your opinions on if what he said was appropriate or not. I again, do not say I'm defending him for the post. But he made that post. Swifties found it. They then found CJ, GJ's mother's restaurant and are now review bombing her restaurant with one star reviews again. I recognize this feeling. Ooh. Do I look at what you're doing, the way you're acting out. Swifties. And I go, it does hurt like that. It do be like that sometimes. You gotta. You gotta chill. You have to contain when your team suffers a devastating loss. You have to limit the damage. You can't spill over into other areas of your life. You got to feel your feelings for sure. Don't push those down. Don't push those down. You got to process them. But do. You can log off for a couple of days. You can take time. You can journal. You can bullet journal your heart out. I think you might even discover some things about yourself. You may reconnect with your fandom in a way you didn't even know you could. I think this is good for you, but let's. You gotta act. Don't act out online. Come on. And I know, we all know you guys are very powerful and we all bow at your feet. You know, we all say we, we love how much you love your queen, but just contain the damage. Hold the pain with yourself. Hold space for it. Watch some movies that help you get emotions out. You know, go for a hot girl walk, but you don't. This poor woman has a restaurant. She's out here working. It's hard out here. And, and I don't know, maybe you know, she got a son who's in the NFL, but you don't. I don't want to get into this woman's personal life. Stop spamming her restaurant with one star reviews unless you've eaten there and it gave you food poisoning. In that case, go ahead. I'm not going to tell you what to do, but leave this poor woman alone. Swifties. It will be okay. You. I actually think we're gonna look back at this and you're gonna love. You're gonna love that you went through this because it made you a better fan. It connected you to the game. It made it matter more to you. And wait till you feel how the wins feel after the losses. That's the shit. That's what we're all here for is the way the wins feel after the losses. So I'm sorry that you're hurting. You are heard. It's understood. I'm not judging. We listen and we don't judge. But let's if you could do me a favor and just try to contain the damage and hold your feelings so that they don't spill over and affect other people and everyone who isn't a swiftie. Sports fans, when you encounter a swiftie kind of popping off over the next few days, perhaps consider treating them with compassion. As a sports fan who knows what it's like to experience this heartbreak and who is well versed in it, use that compassion to say, hey girl, are you hurting because your team lost? And then I think that solves every problem in the world. Then I think we have world peace. For 140 years, MultiCare has been in Washington prioritizing long term solutions, partnering with local communities and expanding access to care. Together, we're building a healthier future. 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Chris
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Katie Nolan
No way.
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Chris
And finding out the fourth line is free. Thanks. Got heated. That's wild.
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Katie Nolan
Join Metro and get four free Samsung 5G phones only at Metro plus tax.
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Chris
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Katie Nolan
Sign up for any Metro Flex plan not available currently AT T Mobile or been with Metro in the past 180 days.
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Mina Kimes
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Chris
Easy. They're from dsw. Because DSW has the exact right shoes for whatever you're into right now. You know, like the sneakers that make office hours feel like happy hour, the boots that turn grocery aisles into runways, and all the styles that show off the many sides of you from daydreamer to multitasker and everything in between. Because you do it all in really great shoes. Find a shoe for every year at your DSW store or dsw dot com.
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Katie Nolan
Let's go ahead and bring in my best friend, Mina Kimes, the smartest NFL person I've ever met in my life. She's cool, she's hot, she's funny, she's smart. It's a list. She's everything you could ever want. Mina, where did you watch the super bowl this year? You were there, right? What? Tell me how. Your week. When, so I can picture it.
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Chris
I was there from Tuesday through Saturday.
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Katie Nolan
Okay.
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Chris
And then I never stay for. I haven't stayed for the actual game to watch live in like, six or seven years at least.
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Katie Nolan
Wow.
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Chris
Because I have to do NFL Live on Monday and stuff on Monday morning. So I came home. I missed my flight, by the way, which I don't think has happened to me maybe in 15 years.
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Katie Nolan
Wow.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Mina's very punctual. That's a. How did that happen?
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Chris
There was. The traffic in New Orleans was so crazy, and there was, like, a big fire on the highway. And anyways, I was very. I know. It was very distressing. And then I watched it at home. To actually answer your question, I watched it at home alone, as I always do, in absolute silence.
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Katie Nolan
Crazy. I mean, I get it. I think I did that last year. But, you know, fascinating. What was the best super bowl party in New Orleans? Like, what is. What was the. Mina and I went to one super bowl party together once. I think maybe two. But we saw. We saw Migos, and then we met Issa Rae, and I tripped down the stairs into the barricade she was standing behind. It was very embarrassing.
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Chris
I remember that was. Was it after, like, the first season of Insecure? It was very early. I don't remember Insecure because she was with Matthew Barry. His brother was, like, a writer, I think, on Insecure or something. Or if I were. Remember what else happened at that party? That was maybe one of my worst moments.
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Katie Nolan
Like, I remember Dr. Oz was there.
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Chris
Dr. Oz was randomly there. This was like the halcyon days of, like, 20. What year was this? 20. It feels like a million years ago.
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Katie Nolan
16, 17.
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Chris
I. I really clowned myself. I don't think you remember this.
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Katie Nolan
I don't. Thank God. Tell me, though.
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Chris
We were at this party and it was Houston. Yeah. And somehow we ended up in, like, amidst all these, like, Bleacher Report people at this Migos concert. And, you know, people were just sitting down, so I sat next to a guy. This is really embarrassing for me. Again, given What I do professionally. And I was like, oh, so do you, like, work for Bleacher Report? Like you blogger, whatever. And he looks at me. He goes, no, I'm A.J. green.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, no. Oh, no. So tall. He was sitting.
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Chris
He was sitting.
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Katie Nolan
NFL players.
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Chris
I mean, I. Obviously someone. I should have recognized his face, but at this super bowl in New Orleans, I was at my baggage claim waiting for my luggage next to Micah Parsons. We were surrounded by Eagles fans, and not a soul recognized him because the helmet.
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Katie Nolan
Crazy. Yeah, it's. It is. I mean, look, that's just the way that it is hockey. Good luck getting me to recognize my favorite team, the Bruins. I could see you. And I go, I think that might be. I think that's. But you don't know. So nobody. We're not holding that against you, especially not here on Casuals, where a lot of people are either new fans or casual fans or. I mean, not knowing A.J. green, for you, I can understand wanting to shrivel up and die, but, you know, I'm fine with it.
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Chris
He didn't say, I'm AJ Green, by the way. He was like, no, I'm a wide receiver for the Bengals.
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Katie Nolan
I was like, oh, no, that's. Did. What. Did you say that to him? Were you like, oh, no?
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Chris
Yeah, I was like, oh, no.
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Katie Nolan
Mortify. I bet he thought it was charming of you, but this year, what super bowl party? Did you. Did you see anybody live or anything? That was sick.
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Chris
So I wanted to see Nelly on the last night, and I went to this. It was one of the, like, betting many betting companies, and all the smoke came out, and I was so excited because I'm a geriatric millennial. And instead, it was the chain smokers.
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Katie Nolan
Well, that's different.
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Chris
Quite a different.
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Katie Nolan
Well, that's about the same vibe.
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Chris
My favorite party or my favorite night was Thursday night. I went to a party that was held by caa, who was, you know, the agents. And I ended up talking. This is my favorite conversation I've had with an athlete maybe ever. To Derek Henry for an hour about our babies.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, that's really sweet.
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Chris
And it was. It was a lot of him being like, wait, that happens to you guys, too?
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Katie Nolan
Oh, that's great. I love that. Making himself seen in parenthood.
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Chris
He was like, you know, every night, we just, like, really want our kid to go to bed. And then when they go to bed, my wife and I just look at pictures of the kid, but we want the kid to go to bed, and then we miss him. And I was like, dude, we do that every night too. And he was like, what other parents do that? It was really charming.
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Katie Nolan
It's really sweet. I love that that's not the usual interaction at a Super bowl party. And so I think that's great. How is your baby, by the way? Are you doing good? Everybody's good.
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Chris
You're reuniting gigantic.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Big boy.
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Chris
Henry sized.
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Katie Nolan
All right, let's talk about the Super Bowl. It happened. It. It was. I don't know your thoughts on it, but mine were like, okay, it's. What a boring. I went to a Super bowl party for the first time in a very long time. I'm usually either at it or I'm alone. And I went and was social. So it was actually the perfect super bowl for that because I could just talk and not have to go like, shush, shh, shh, shh. But what was that game? That's not what anybody saw happening. It was 40 to 22. But that feels a lot closer than what it actually felt like 34 to.
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Chris
0 at one point. Yeah, all you need to know, right? I saw some posts about like, Kendrick's halftime show was like, down a ratings. Yeah, no shit. The game was like over by halftime. Like, of course people were turning it off, you know, it was. I could be like an annoying football hipster and say, well, I guess people don't like defense, you know? Well, we don't.
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Katie Nolan
It's boring.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
Stopping something interesting from happening. That's not interesting.
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Chris
I think what I would say was a little bit boring about it too. It wasn't like, oh, my gosh, this defense is like making these crazy. This game plan is something we've never seen before. Or this is so unusual. It was just domination at the line of scrimmage, which is of course the foundation of football. But actually seeing that play out in real time, we can get into all. There's all kinds of analysis about should the Chiefs have done this and why did the Eagles do this and who they were. But ultimately it just came down to the offensive line getting absolutely dominated and Patrick Mahomes freaking out as a result.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, it felt like this is one of those things. I, I test these things out with Mina so she can tell me if that's the smart thing to say or if that's not right. But it felt to me like the Chiefs game planned for Saquon and nobody else. Does that make sense?
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Chris
They definitely over index the run.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I mean, and they did. It was great. They, they, they held him to however many yards he got, but A, it was still enough yards to break the record, and B, they lost. They got their butts whooped in front of all of us.
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Chris
Yeah, they. They basically dared Jalen Hurts to beat them, and then Jalen Hurts beat them now. They were helped a lot by the fact that their offense couldn't stay on the field. Right. The Eagles were helped by that. Right. The Eagles do that, so. Or the Eagles office, rather, it. I actually thought the Chiefs defense wasn't that bad. It just kind of eventually, like when you're on the field that long, too exhausting. Really tough.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, really tough.
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Chris
I always go back to the Falcons, Patriots, Super Bowl. Me too. That was when I was actually at the game, by the way. I covered that game. That was a good one to be at the game because in the stadium, the energy was so insane. I know the energy flip and the parent. Like that stress of Falcons fans. But I always go back to that game as, like, a lesson that I apply, which is that the Falcons were up, but they didn't possess the football very long, so the defense was really tired, and that ended up being a factor later in the game. Time of possession matters a lot in football, and people kind of forget that.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's a good point. Mina, you're so smart. What did you think about the new bug? Have we ever seen them debut a new score bug at the last game of the season? I feel like we usually get that out of the way first game. You get used to it. And then by the super bowl, they're just adding flair to it, but they're not doing a new score board.
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Chris
Yeah. I don't know the history of, like, when they debuted them, but it was pretty jarring at first, and then I just kind of stopped noticing it.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, I actually fade, like, okay.
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Chris
Were people mad about it?
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Katie Nolan
People were very, very mad about it, but, you know, the world's just kind of mad. I feel like I just was. It was jarring to me. I was like, what is this? This is new. I've never. I've watched a lot of football. I felt gaslit. I felt like it was telling me, like, you don't know. This is what our graphics have always looked like. And I was like, no, they have it. This is new. Why are we doing this?
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Chris
It was also, like, weirdly, like, modern, I guess.
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Katie Nolan
Like, ish.
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Chris
Overly simple, maybe. I don't know. It was odd.
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Katie Nolan
I didn't. I wasn't a huge fan. What about Brady? How do you feel about Brady in the booth? Do you think he's doing A good job. Did you like it? I mean, it's. It's his first time he's been to the super bowl, but it's his first time in the booth doing the Super Bowl. That's got to be stressful for him on his first year. Did you, like.
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Chris
It seemed nervous as hell at first. Did you feel pickup on that? Especially when they did their little intro.
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Katie Nolan
I didn't listen to him as closely as I would have if I were at home, so I miss most of his performance. I missed. But he. I believe it. I believe you. He's. I'd be nervous.
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Chris
I feel like he's also like an insane perfectionist competitor. Shocker Tom Brady. And I do think he has heard all the criticism this season, and I probably weighed on him. I don't think he was as bad as people say, to be honest.
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Katie Nolan
I agree. I agree.
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Chris
I thought he was okay in this game. Like, he pointed out all the right things. There weren't, like, big moments. You know, it wasn't like it came down to final drive and like, Izzy announcer meeting the moment and like, situational football. That just didn't happen in this. Like, he had to do.
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Katie Nolan
It was a tough game to call. Yeah.
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Chris
Yeah. Like, in the last quarter, it was over. So he had to kind of vamp and like, do sports radio. And I thought, honestly, it was fine. I really did.
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Katie Nolan
I think that's the safest. I think that's the, like, that makes the most sense to me. He truly was fine. I think people were looking to be like, hey, socked. Or like, he's great. And you're like, no, he was fine. He can just be fine. We kind of talked about it. Saquon setting the mark for most rush yards in a single season, even though 57 was the total number of yards he got on Sunday. And that was his birthday. I think we were all thinking if anyone was going to score a touchdown on their birthday, that it was going to be Saquon Barkley, not Cooper De Jean. But also his birthday. Yeah, exactly. I did not think he was the one that was going to get that done on that day. Crazy. Loved it. Also, seeing how old Cooper was turning, I was like, okay, do you know.
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Chris
Who Cooper De Jean looks like to me? It hit me during the game. It's not like a one for one, but he kind of looks like the guy from. To all of the boys I've loved before. Noah Centineo, I think his name is.
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Katie Nolan
I see it a little bit.
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Chris
I mean, he's got the tick tock. Hair. And I just think his face kind of. I. I am ready for all of the 10, like, eight to, I don't know, teenage girls. We'll call them who were Chiefs adjacent to discover Cooper De Jean and switch allegiance.
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Katie Nolan
I do think it's time for us to start pitching to Swifties that, like, there's other teams and you might like them more and I think age appropriate. Yes. I think that's a helpful way to do it. I also feel like Sabrina Carpenter should start getting more vocally Philly. I feel like they need a little pop star because they lost Taylor to the Chiefs.
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Chris
So I should date who that would be Cooper. Cooper Najean and Sabrina Carpenter.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, now we're cooking with gas. I like this. Are they. What's the ages on somebody else?
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Chris
I don't know.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, let me Age don't matter. Look at Bill Belichick. You can love anyone at any age. 20. She's 25. She must have turned because I thought she was 24. And he's 22. 72. Oh, you're talking about.
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Chris
Oh, I meant I met Sabrina Carpenter.
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Katie Nolan
Still dwelling on my former coach. Dating someone younger than me.
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Chris
It's a lot.
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Katie Nolan
Put Saquon in context for a casual fan. Like, this is incredible. Yeah, this is. We're not gonna see something like this for a while. Right.
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Chris
It was a very, like. It's a perfect storm of taking the best running back in football and putting him behind the best offensive line in football, which was just like taking something that was already dominant. Right. The Eagles had the best run game and then just pouring gasoline on it. I mean, he. I think I saw, had twice as many plays where he hit 20 miles per hour as any running back.
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Katie Nolan
Crazy. Miles per hour for a human is nuts.
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Chris
Yeah. It was unbelievable. Unbelievable season. And, like, you're correct. The defense was so keyed in on him. His impact in the game was really felt, even though he didn't put up those numbers. He was also great. I know that listeners of Casuals want to hear about this. He was great in blitz pickup.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. Okay. I think we all saw that. I saw him throw up a block. I noticed one block that I was like, that's nice. You don't have to do that. You're the running back.
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Chris
Something.
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Katie Nolan
He got better.
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Chris
He was a complete. I'll tell you this, too. I. I had a chance to talk to Lane Johnson, who's the Eagles right tackle. Near the end of the season, those guys would run through a wall for Saquon Barkley. Huh. Like, he was a Free agent. And they loved him. I feel like. I. I mean, just the way he talked about him. I've never heard novice flying and talk about a running back. They absolutely loved him.
- [27:39]
Katie Nolan
That's really sweet. I mean, poor Giants fans. Just watching Saquon thrive. Just having to look at your ex being like, I'm in love. And you're like, y. Okay. All right.
- [27:52]
Chris
And the tape. The tape is out there of the gm. Like, that would be like if you dumped someone and it was on camera and then they went on to, you know, become president or something. I don't know. Win best actor. I don't know. Whatever. And then people just. You had to watch the tape of you dumping them all the time. It gets played over and over.
- [28:09]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Whoops.
- [28:11]
Chris
President. I don't know about president.
- [28:13]
Katie Nolan
I don't know. Then he becomes president. I don't know. It used to mean something. I don't know what it means now. Gatorade bath early. Is that a faux pas? That's allowed? You can go that early.
- [28:25]
Chris
I loved it. First of all, it was like a damn. This game is so out of hand. We can do Gatoring.
- [28:31]
Katie Nolan
It felt like they could. They needed. They were waiting for it to be like, the second. It was mathematically like, there's nothing they can do. They were like, let's somebody gator it out.
- [28:39]
Chris
The analytics guy got in the air. Okay. Win probability hit 99%. Go, go, go. I mean, that was actually earlier, but it also completely took him by surprise, which you don't see happen very often. If you knew Nick Sirianni was, at the end of the game, going to get ready for it. He was not ready for that.
- [28:54]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's. It was fun. It was funny. I just think about having to do a press conference wet after you lose in a shocking upset and how. How awful that would be. It's kind of like when Travis showed up in that outfit to the super bowl, and my first thought was, like, you're gonna have to leave in that outfit. You better hope you win. And there was a video of him or a picture of him leaving in that outfit, and it just doesn't hit the same when you're sad.
- [29:17]
Chris
Why do they not bring a winner?
- [29:18]
Katie Nolan
I think that's what I was like, they're not gonna leave in the same clothes he did. They did leave in the same clothes. And I. It's like Cam Newton's hat sweats. Yeah. Put on your PJs, buddy. You lost the Super Bowl. You're allowed to be sad. And Eat ice cream, halftime performance. Do you have any opinions you feel you want to share? Are you removing yourself from the narrative?
- [29:39]
Chris
Well, I wasn't on Twitter during the super bowl at all. I was live posting on ESPN's Blue Sky.
- [29:45]
Katie Nolan
That's our very next topic we will be discussing.
- [29:48]
Chris
Oh, okay. I opened Twitter, like, later, and the. For you was literally just culture war. Viral tweets about Kendrick, like, with people just, like, literally duking it out. And I thought, I'm so glad I wasn't on this app amidst this, because, again, it's funny when you don't experience something on social media and real time, you're like, this is cool. I'm sure it's very interesting. Yeah, there'll be some interesting artists. Like, I'm not, like, that smart about, you know, art and symbolism, but I'm sure critics will write interesting things. I see some things going on. You know, I did, like, I'm a very casual rap fan, so I was like. I. I'm, like, kind of waiting for some of the hits. I didn't hear all the hits. That's okay. Again, casual. I'm a cat. I'm a casual.
- [30:32]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [30:32]
Chris
Start this for music.
- [30:33]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [30:34]
Chris
But I, like, I enjoyed it. And I, like. It's just so funny to have that very, like, mild, like, this is cool. And then be like, whoa. Right.
- [30:43]
Katie Nolan
Because we don't have that. Doesn't do clicks anymore to say, like, hey, I liked it. Probably didn't understand all of it. Excited to hear what people who know more have to say about it. Instead, it's like, what is this? What is this garbage? You're like, garbage, buddy. I don't think.
- [30:59]
Chris
Yeah. What was your experience of it?
- [31:01]
Katie Nolan
I. So I. Same thing. I. I like Kendrick. I. I don't stand out here, and I'm not out here calling him, like, k Dot. I don't think I'm. I don't involve myself in a way. I try, you know, I know what us means and not like us. And I try to be respectful of that. Right. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I loved Serena. When I saw Serena, I, like, stood up embarrassingly in the house that I was in. I was like, yes, this is amazing on a number of levels. Did you see what Stephen A. Smith said about Serena?
- [31:32]
Chris
So it's another story that I hate to say this, but I experienced, again, opening for you on Twitter.
- [31:39]
Katie Nolan
Oh, no.
- [31:39]
Chris
And it was a very viral tweet making fun of him for what he said.
- [31:44]
Katie Nolan
Oh, good.
- [31:45]
Chris
So I kind of experienced it. I'll send it to you, it was kind of refracted through the criticism. Which, again, it's just like. It's so weird when your experience of something that is vaguely controversial or objectionable is through the secondhand reaction to it.
- [31:59]
Katie Nolan
Yes. I was just talking about this that I'll like, I saw a tweet that I was like, this is chapter three of drama. That I gotta work back and figure out what they're responding to. But I do appreciate that most social media sites, most of the time, maybe I don't even know as I'm saying this if it's true, but at least, like, the. The thing I was served is the thing that is on the side that I would have eventually ended up on, where I'm like, yeah, that means disagreeing with them is right.
- [32:22]
Chris
I am reflexively pro Serena Williams as a life ethos. So, yeah, I think that's the side I'm always on in everything.
- [32:31]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. True. The criticism, I guess was that she. What was. It's two. And thinking about her ex, I just. It's like, Stephen ain't given marriage advice. My first. Anybody giving marriage advice. My first question is, are you married?
- [32:45]
Chris
Also, the. I again, I. My first thought wasn't even Drake. It was the tennis aspect of it because.
- [32:54]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [32:54]
Chris
Of the incidents with her group walk, you know, years ago. And then I kind of was like, oh, yeah, There was this other thing.
- [32:59]
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah. And they dated in the. Yeah, sure. But the first thought. Yeah, I guess for. Maybe I assumed that would have been everybody's first thought, but I guess I am coming from like, the sports background of it all. But her. Her husband was like, no, I liked it, actually.
- [33:14]
Chris
He's like the King Wife guy.
- [33:16]
Katie Nolan
I know. The Reddit guy being King Wife guy. Who saw that coming.
- [33:22]
Chris
That man, like, he knows what he has and he never forgets it a day in his life. And I respect it.
- [33:27]
Katie Nolan
That's the way that it should be. You said you were on Blue sky during the game. You've become kind of like the face of sports on Blue Sky. Do you feel this? Is this something you're.
- [33:36]
Chris
I relentlessly have been bullying you into trying to get you to post more than that.
- [33:41]
Katie Nolan
I know. And I posted, hello, I think I'm here. And then I don't think I've posted anything else.
- [33:45]
Chris
People were so excited to see you.
- [33:48]
Katie Nolan
But it's just like, listen, I was on Twitter. I've been on Twitter since 2008, 2009. Like, I have. And I remember at first being like, what is the point of this site? And then my brain started thinking in shorter little bites, it, like, became something my brain did. So then I had stuff to say on it. So then I would tweet. It became like a muscle memory. It was like, just a part of my life. And now I'm like, I don't know what to. I don't want to have to refollow. Everybody that I followed on Twitter, they.
- [34:25]
Chris
Have these, like, packs where you could just click on this and you automatically follow.
- [34:29]
Katie Nolan
I did that too. You did some sort of a pack, and I clicked on that and I followed that. But it's just. It's just a. It's tough to leave.
- [34:37]
Chris
Start over. It's hard to start over.
- [34:39]
Katie Nolan
Hard to start over and to leave and to be, like, off to do this again. Part of me is like, well, I was doing this too much, so I should use this opportunity to stop doing this in general instead of finding a new this to do.
- [34:53]
Chris
So I would liken it again. This is just speaking to myself to. When you recognize you have an addictive behavior, and we all, I feel like, have addictive behavior to social media, and you want to change that. The question is, can I go cold turkey or. This is like a common.
- [35:09]
Katie Nolan
Like a methadone.
- [35:11]
Chris
Yeah. Like a common therapy or I guess, tactic when you have a DDT flavor is to replace it with something else. You know what I mean? Like, it's like every time you want a cigarette, go, yeah, for a walk.
- [35:23]
Katie Nolan
Or they say, like, cut a straw and do the. Doesn't work.
- [35:27]
Chris
Don't it.
- [35:27]
Katie Nolan
Every time I want a cigarette, I'd be sucking on a straw all day.
- [35:30]
Chris
My feeling about Twitter and this was like, basically, by the way, before even the last few weeks, when things have gotten, like, super fraggy over there. Like, this isn't even. I mean, and I have feelings about it now that are ideological and cultural and political, whatever. But literally, it was just like, wow. Every time I open this on my phone, I feel like shit.
- [35:50]
Katie Nolan
I feel bad about myself.
- [35:52]
Chris
I feel like I'm getting punched in the face and my pants pull down and everyone hates me. And like I said with the Kendrick thing, it was literally like, you think, wow, everybody hates each other. The world is awful. So I wanted to replace that addictive behavior, just taking it off my phone, replacing it with something else on my phone.
- [36:11]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [36:12]
Chris
So that was kind of like my motive, and it actually has been really effective. And, like, I still open it every now and then, mostly to post my own things, and then I kind of scurry off. But I Honestly, feel like my mental health has improved because of it.
- [36:25]
Katie Nolan
I mean, that's an amazing promo read for Blue Sky. So it's not lame, because I do feel when Twitter first started, Twitter was kind of lame. It was like, a lot of, like, hey, all, I'm here at the conference. Use hashtag. Like, it was a little corny. And so I feel like Blue sky is absolutely going to have to experience that phase. Is that phase coming to an end, do you feel?
- [36:53]
Chris
Yeah, yeah, I do. I think right now it's kind of like 2015 Twitter.
- [36:59]
Katie Nolan
Okay.
- [36:59]
Chris
Is how I would describe it, where it's like, there are annoying people, but they're humans and they're not calling me racist. They're just annoying. They're just, like, mad at me because I didn't vote for Josh Allen for mvp. Stuff like that. And that's kind of the experience I want out of social apps. Like, if I wanted to see replies, I just. They can. They don't have to all be positive. I just want them to be, like, normal.
- [37:21]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Or like, engaging with the conversation I'm having instead of yelling. Some conversation they're having at me. Yeah. Has nothing to do with me. Thank you for sharing. Okay, maybe I'll. Maybe I'll stop by Blue Sky. I don't understand the dots in the username and the. I don't understand the, like, channels. I don't know what that is. They're.
- [37:44]
Chris
It's still kind of, like, evolving too, I think.
- [37:48]
Katie Nolan
So I'll fit. Maybe I'll figure it's just, you know, old dog, new trick. I don't know. Even.
- [37:52]
Chris
I like it for just engagement. Like, if you ever want to, like, engage with people. Like, I once put out a question on Blue Sky. I was like, hey, I'm looking for music recommendation. I got, like, a thousand amazing music recommendations.
- [38:02]
Katie Nolan
That's great.
- [38:02]
Chris
I could never do that on.
- [38:04]
Katie Nolan
Well, you used to be able to, but no longer. Now it's just porn. It's even, like, videos that you're like, I watched this thinking it wasn't porn. And here we are at the porn part. Like, it's like AI porn bots yelling at each other. Nazis. It's wild. It's wild. It's a wild west. And they're all like, it's the exact same. It's always bad. You're like, don't. Let's not do this. No, it's not, baby. I've been here since before you were born. It is. This sucks. This is different, and it sucks. Did you see the woman on Blue Sky. Kat. Or sorry, I'm saying woman, I don't know. Kat Flandermeyer, who was tweeting. Wait, so this is actually a good question for you. What's it called when you post on Blue Sky?
- [38:45]
Chris
I'd say post some. Yeah, post.
- [38:48]
Katie Nolan
Blue skied.
- [38:48]
Chris
Posting.
- [38:49]
Katie Nolan
So she blue skied.
- [38:50]
Chris
People say skeet, which I. Skeet. Yeah. I'm going with post.
- [38:55]
Katie Nolan
I mean, if those are my options. Yeah, I'd go with post, but I don't. This one blue skied. The highlights from the police scanner dir after the Super Bowl. Did you see this? We have a couple highlights. Yeah. Some of our favorites. It seems to calm down around 2am but after the game, through 2am we had a couple of these. There is currently an undetermined amount of DJs. At least two, perhaps three. They are rotating. I got fireworks. There's also a DJ booth. And then you hear intermittent explosions in the background. We have a barricade going up and down Broad Street. And then a defeated voice says, we lost all the barricades. That is. That sums up Philly fans after a game to me is just the, like, we've got it. We figured this. They got through that. They broke through that.
- [39:47]
Chris
Multiple DJs. There are multiverses.
- [39:48]
Katie Nolan
We have descended into chaos. Another group on a trash truck. I've lost track of how many total trash trucks were at. We have a man with a boombox who keeps poking out of a store. Keep an eye on him. This is. I saw the video of this. I assume unless this happened twice, but I now have seven or eight people on horses. The fireworks are spooking them and they're rearing up. They are civilian horses. Just people riding down the street on horses. Civilian horses. You know, they're undercover. They could be. You don't know.
- [40:23]
Chris
How do you know?
- [40:23]
Katie Nolan
Well, you ask them. If you ask a horse if it's a civilian, it has to tell you.
- [40:29]
Chris
I love that thread because it was very easy for me to imagine them all in like a Delco accent.
- [40:36]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [40:37]
Chris
Because that's literally my in laws. My in laws are like the Silver Linings Playbook type Eagles fans. Like my mother in law is a WIP listener.
- [40:48]
Katie Nolan
Wow.
- [40:49]
Chris
Who has strong opinions.
- [40:51]
Katie Nolan
So she likes or dislikes.
- [40:54]
Chris
Well, now she likes. Yeah. But now let me tell you, the criticism was hot and heavy.
- [40:58]
Katie Nolan
I get that.
- [40:59]
Chris
So I was really. I mean, I didn't. You know, I don't. I never dog in this fight. But I was happy for my in laws because they were really, really over the moon.
- [41:08]
Katie Nolan
What's your opinion of. Of Philly fans do you have. I feel like they get a lot of. I feel like some of it is deserved sometimes. But I in general have come around on them in a way that I don't feel like the national media has yet. Where like, maybe not necessarily Eagles fans, but I know Phillies fans I had like good interactions with where it felt like they'll boo, but they will also cheer when you go, like, yeah, I screwed up. I shouldn't. Like, they're. They just want you to be good at your sport. Is. Is my general vibe. And they're usually pretty decent hangs.
- [41:46]
Chris
Yes. I think they're really funny. I think they're one of our funnier sports fan bases. I think like every fan base, they love you when you are positive about them and they hate you when you're negative.
- [41:58]
Katie Nolan
True.
- [41:58]
Chris
Maybe both sentiments kind of extreme, a little bit on the more extreme end. But they definitely, I feel like are one of the more hardcore city fan like sports cities.
- [42:09]
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah. I'm also realizing I'm setting you up to be like, say something. They'll come at you, say what you think.
- [42:14]
Chris
But literally my family. I It true. Yeah. Yeah.
- [42:19]
Katie Nolan
You mentioned so many of them in.
- [42:21]
Chris
New Orleans, by the way. So many.
- [42:22]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, they travel real well. They travel real well. Which is hard, I think, to explain to like a casual Swifty of like, don't take too. Don't take that too personally. They travel well and you represent the other side. Like, if you want to. If you go. That's just how it is. If you want Taylor Swift to not get booed, you have to go. You have to go to the Super Bowl. You got to travel well because the Eagles fans are going to be there and they've booed Santa. They don't care. They've booed everybody.
- [42:50]
Chris
I saw, you know, okay, so I saw her. She got booed. I wasn't really tapped into that again during the game. And you know, I saw people defending her saying like, I guess. But my feeling was this isn't about Taylor Swift. She's just a symbol for the Chiefs. Like, this is not. This is literally just you.
- [43:09]
Katie Nolan
That's just sports, baby.
- [43:10]
Chris
Misogyny or what. Like, you're literally just the Chiefs to these people and they're gonna boo ya.
- [43:15]
Katie Nolan
Right. You know, you're just a representative of a thing and they hate that thing because that's what we're here to do. Hate that thing. I feel like it doesn't help that like the discourse online has eroded so then a bunch of people who weren't there are projecting why they would have booed, and it's because what they hate about her. And you're like, but you weren't there. You didn't boo. I think the people who booed were just Eagles fans. And you are the other side of the coin. Like, you're the bad guy for the next however long.
- [43:43]
Chris
I saw like a viral post being like, the American networks are suppressing the booze for the president, but they're being heard internationally. And then I think it was Tim Burke who was like, I'm watching on the international fees. This is just not true, dude.
- [43:56]
Katie Nolan
Thank you for saying that because I saw a bunch of that. And I also, like, was like, let me get to the bottom of where the missing. If this is misinformation, if this is so. It's just everything now. You can't just trust it when you see it. And I saw somebody say, and like, Dan had said to me, like, oh, I think that actually he got booed and they put a cheer over it. And I went and I found an article from Newsweek that was like, here's what we know. And I'm like, don't. Here's what we know. Did he get booed or did they cheer? What are we doing? And I guess I just sort of had a little pep talk with myself where I said, it doesn't matter. None of that matters. Move on. It's the search for truth is never ending now because you just never know. You just never know so hard. You voted. You got. You had an MVP vote. When did they give those out? Where'd you get that from?
- [44:48]
Chris
I was like, wait, where's this guy?
- [44:49]
Katie Nolan
Oh, sorry, you voted. Let's talk about your voter history.
- [44:53]
Chris
I did. I did, yeah. I do have an mvp. I think I've been a voter now for four years. Three or four years or so. I didn't know that the votes are going to be public. Do they always. I don't care.
- [45:05]
Katie Nolan
New right?
- [45:05]
Chris
I don't think so. I've never had my vote publicized. I don't mind. I was not upset about it.
- [45:10]
Katie Nolan
I've certainly never seen government name and vote of all of the. I mean, really, like, it was fascinating, like drugs. To a sports fan public that wants to know exactly who voted in what order they voted for.
- [45:24]
Chris
Who are we going to get mad about?
- [45:26]
Katie Nolan
So what went into your vote? You're not allowed to take into consideration. This is for a casual fan. This is how they decide the MVP of the season. You're not supposed to take into consideration the postseason. Correct. It's just the regular season mvp and it's voted on by a bunch of members of the media. And you vote by basically putting them in the order you think they should be in. Right. And then they tally the votes in a complicated way. What led to your vote? What influenced your decision?
- [45:57]
Chris
So for mvp, which I think is kind of what you're asking about, it came down to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson for me. And it was very close. They were really statistically quite close this year. And like I've said this, anyone who says it was obvious is totally full of shit because it was really like a dead heat with them. I ended up voting for Lamar because some of the advanced metrics that I like did favor him. One of them that I use a lot is, is called a defense adjusted value over average. And he was dramatically higher than tvoa.
- [46:31]
Katie Nolan
Right?
- [46:32]
Chris
Yeah.
- [46:33]
Katie Nolan
Yes.
- [46:33]
Chris
Because he played harder defenses this year. And that was something that really influenced my vote. I thought some of his performances against those defenses, they had a couple mutual opponents, the head to head, which isn't really like a quarterback thing, but obviously the Ravens killed them in that. And then, you know what I mean, Lamar, to use a more basic stat like he had 4,000 passing yards, 900 rushing yards. He almost broke, I don't know if people realize this, he almost broke Aaron Rodgers passer rating record. And passer rating does not account for quarterback rushing at all, which is why I don't usually use it, by the way. It's literally just passing. So the greatest passing season of all time in this metric was Aaron Rodgers. And Lamar came so close to breaking his record this year. And that was just. Just for people who know Lamar Jackson's history and how he was perceived coming to the draft and how much his passing was minimized, it is like a remarkable thing to step back and just notice.
- [47:31]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I did not know that and I have not heard anybody talking about that.
- [47:35]
Chris
Crazy. He had a crazy year as a passer and it was MVP last year. Who's better this year? What the thing that happened, you probably saw this. So I'm an all pro voter as well. So you picked the all Pro teams, which is for people who don't know. Kind of like the people who vote for MVP also pick like their own Pro bowl team. And it's considered more prestigious and important than the Pro Bowl. And Lamar was first team all Pro at quarterback. You never lose MVP if you're first team all pro quarterback. So it was actually genuinely Shocking that he didn't win.
- [48:06]
Katie Nolan
Do you think it was because he had just won it and that people in their minds were like, let's give it to somebody different. Do you think that it was people like, what do you think?
- [48:17]
Chris
I think that factored in, yeah. A little bit of the embiid Jokic, like voter fatigue kind of effect. I think that is real. I think the biggest reason why people voted for Allen and again, I don't think it's crazy at all is they felt like he did more with less because Lamar got to play next to Derrick Henry has better tight ends. I would counter that by saying I think the Bills offensive line was better. This is something I also noted and people never talk about offensive lines, but I think that was kind of the biggest case for Josh is like, oh my God. Stefan Diggs left and he has like these rookies and nobodies. Which is again, not true. But I think that was the bigger factor.
- [48:54]
Katie Nolan
You went. Did you go to the NFL honors? NFL, that's what it's called?
- [48:58]
Chris
I did, yeah. I've never been before this year. I did go.
- [49:01]
Katie Nolan
It was all. Everybody looked so fancy, you know, Looks.
- [49:05]
Chris
Like kind of like prom.
- [49:06]
Katie Nolan
I know. Did you meet Bill Belichick's girlfriend?
- [49:10]
Chris
They walked by me. I didn't meet her. It was really a stunning visual.
- [49:16]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. She said. I think I heard Charlotte Wilder say that she. Jordan, the. What was her last name?
- [49:22]
Chris
Jordan Hudson.
- [49:23]
Katie Nolan
Hudson, thank you. Said that she picked that dress because it looked like the Heisman Trophy or like the. Oh, no, like the. Like the trophy. The Lombardi Trophy. And I was like, I guess if you tilt your head in a way, but it just. Is it just because it's silver? I don't know. But it looked nice on her.
- [49:44]
Chris
She's very beautiful.
- [49:45]
Katie Nolan
She's very beautiful. Aaron Rodgers, you mentioned, and we've got news on him, I guess. News, I guess. After two seasons and 18 total games with the Jets, 41 year old Aaron Rodgers has been told the franchise is officially moving on from him. They only won five games with him under center. What's. What was. What's this chapter of Aaron Rodgers? What is. What's happening? What's next? Is he retiring? Is he going somewhere?
- [50:16]
Chris
Yeah, that's the big decision. Whether or not he wants to retire or play. Sounds like he wants to keep playing. And I get it. He wasn't as bad as his record last year. I don't think there's going to be a huge market for his services, to be honest. In part. Not because he Is like so bad or anything like that, but rather everything that comes with him. You know, like if you're a rookie head coach. I think this was something that didn't surprise me about the jets cutting with Aaron Glenn, their new head coach. You don't want to take on all that, but it's also like from a football perspective, he plays such a specific style of offense, so you have to buy into that as well. So we'll see. I'd suggested the Titans for him as being the most likely spot if he keeps playing.
- [51:06]
Katie Nolan
What made you say that?
- [51:08]
Chris
Their head coach, Brian. They don't have a lot of. They have the number one pick in the draft, but I kind of think they're going to pass on a quarterback this year. And then their head coach has a little bit more familiarity with the type of offense that Rogers wants to run.
- [51:24]
Katie Nolan
Yeah, that's a follow up question I shouldn't have asked because what. That means nothing to me and I don't care. When's the draft? When do we have to start caring about the draft?
- [51:33]
Chris
Oh my God, dude, it's in Green Bay. I have to go to Green Bay.
- [51:38]
Katie Nolan
It's a cool. It's a cool. I like the way there's like a bunch of houses right next to the stadium. The way you feel like you're in a little neighborhood and then, whoa, there's a stadium. That part's cool.
- [51:47]
Chris
Nice. If there was some hotel.
- [51:49]
Katie Nolan
I know the hotels are bad. I think there's like an A. One of those a lofts or something. There's like a nice. No. Yeah. That's gonna stink. When is that? April.
- [51:58]
Chris
End of April. The big thing for me is in two weeks, the combine.
- [52:01]
Katie Nolan
And that's even more boring. Mina. That's working out. That's a workout. I don't.
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Chris
I love it, but.
- [52:07]
Katie Nolan
What do you love it? Let's give the sales pitch in case anybody might be interested in watching the combine.
- [52:12]
Chris
Well, if you're like a. So basically for three days in Indianapolis, all these prospects work out. And I agree that in and of itself is not particularly interesting. The more important thing that happens there is like the interviews with the. In the teams and we don't see that. I like it personally because like all of the NFL coaches just hang out at like two bars in Indianapolis for two nights. So it's like a weird frat party sort of.
- [52:37]
Katie Nolan
It's like super bowl, but with the coaches instead of the media.
- [52:41]
Chris
Yeah. And like instead of Migos, it's like Matt Patricia at a bar at like 2am, right?
- [52:48]
Katie Nolan
No, just your dream is to. Is to pick their brains.
- [52:52]
Chris
I saw him at that same super bowl party where I saw Derek Henry. He is so committed to that hat, that newsboy hat.
- [52:58]
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah. You like it? Does it. Is it working?
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Chris
I mean, I don't know. I. It's just a look. He's just very.
- [53:07]
Katie Nolan
I think sometimes you go through a phase. I think you go through a hat phase and you have to commit. You can't be the guy that wears the hat. And then he shows up and someone goes, nice hat. And you're like, it's stupid. Right? I should take it off. You have to go full in.
- [53:20]
Chris
You gotta own it.
- [53:21]
Katie Nolan
So that I respect.
- [53:23]
Chris
I also like the comment because I love the draft and it's like the beginning of draft season, so it's like, literally when we finish, I'm gonna start watching college quarterbacks who I have not watched at all.
- [53:32]
Katie Nolan
Exciting. That sounds so thrilling. And it's exciting to me. Pretty exciting. I wish I were doing that. Looking over the things we have left to talk to you about and the amount of time I want to make sure I get to all the good things. Did you happen to catch in all of your busyness that clip from Temptation Island, Spain?
- [53:52]
Chris
I didn't watch it, but I saw it was presented to me on Instagram Explorer, so.
- [54:00]
Katie Nolan
And you didn't click on it?
- [54:01]
Chris
I didn't click on it.
- [54:02]
Katie Nolan
But we're talking about Montoya, right? Montoya, por favor.
- [54:05]
Chris
Yes. What happens?
- [54:06]
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God, I almost don't want to spoil it for you. And we certainly can't show it to you here because Spain shows a lot more in terms of sex on reality. Really then. Yeah, I guess. And this is from Dan, so I don't know, fact check it, but I guess Spain is kind of tight on violence on tv. They don't show a lot of violence on tv, but I guess where they are strong in that regard, they are lax in regards to the sounds and visuals you're allowed to see on a reality show. When two people are having sex, you see the. The. The. I would say pounding motion, trying not to offend. You do see the action and you hear the slapping and the moaning. But basically this guy, Temptation island is, you know, the concept.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Katie Nolan
A couple shows up to an island, they are at some sort of a crossroads. The men and the women are put in two separate spots, like houses on separate islands or whatever, where they're surrounded by young hotties who are trying to them. And then every week they have these meetings where they see the clips of what happened and what your other significant other has been doing, and you decide if you're going to stay together. Basically, this guy, and I don't know if this is just a Spain thing or if this is a new Temptation island thing, was watching a live feed of his girlfriend and this guy, Hottie, from her. Her little bungalow. And he's watching the live feed, and he sees them get in bed and start to have sex. He falls to his knees. He's very dramatic. And then he runs, what looks like he's running towards the ocean. So I thought, this guy's gonna run to the ocean and end his life. But he sprints down the beach. I'm watching her watch it. He sprints down the beach. And they cut while he's running. I mean, this poor cameraman trying to keep up with him. But they're splicing in the footage of Live at the same time his girlfriend having sex with that guy. Like, it's more than they'll show you on Big Brother, I guess. New Big Brother. And then he gets there. He arrives at their house, and she comes out like it's. You see the moment they're having sex, and they hear him yelling outside, and you see her go like, oh, my God. And dismount, and they go outside. It's a wild clip.
- [56:18]
Chris
This is so they. This is like a live feed he's watching.
- [56:21]
Katie Nolan
Yes. And I thought it was a clip, at least on the US Version that I watched. It was always, like, footage of something that had happened. It was not like, this is happening right now.
- [56:31]
Chris
This is crazy.
- [56:32]
Katie Nolan
Isn't that nuts?
- [56:34]
Chris
This is incredible television. The best island could never. I mean, Love island is great, but.
- [56:38]
Katie Nolan
The end of the clip is good tv, too. I don't know if you're there. I don't know where you are in the clip.
- [56:42]
Chris
I haven't gotten there. I'm almost there. Oh, my God. He is. He is. Scoot. Oh, she is on him. The door just opened. Oh, my God. This is crazy. Poor Montoya.
- [56:54]
Katie Nolan
I watched the whole thing in Spanish, didn't need subtitles. I was like, I get it. I get what's happening. I do not need to know. I feel the emotion of it.
- [57:03]
Chris
That's crazy. Oh, my God.
- [57:05]
Katie Nolan
At the end, she runs out to him. He leaves angry, and she runs, runs after him, and she collapses on the beach of like, take me back. It's wild.
- [57:15]
Chris
Bane is incredible. It's my takeaway.
- [57:17]
Katie Nolan
They really have something there. I think that show. I mean, you gotta know Going in. Don't get too attached to any couple on Temptation Island. If they're there, they're probably in trouble. You don't just go to an island like that.
- [57:32]
Chris
America had Temptation island, right?
- [57:34]
Katie Nolan
We did the host. The host host, the, I believe was like a he Tom Brady or Mark Wahlberg. He was one of those guys that shares a name with a famous guy. And he was really good, actually, at doing the, like, therapy side of it when he would, like, show them the clip and then be like, okay, talk to me about how this is making you feel. Do you think that this could be something that you caused by the blah, blah? It was good. I liked it. This is another level.
- [58:01]
Chris
Yeah. Do you watch Love Island?
- [58:03]
Katie Nolan
No.
- [58:05]
Chris
So the cons of main. So this season recently of Love Island USA was like, a huge hit in part because Odell Beckham Jr. S brother was like, this mega star and was like the sweetest, most adorable guy. Like, just so cute and pure. And, like, I feel like famous siblings can go either two directions. Either they're, like, really all about that fame and life, or they're just, like, very sheltered and sweet, and that's who this guy was. But anyways, the way Love island works is, you know, they meet and couple up, and then they split up the couples similarly, kind of to this mini Temptation Island. They send the guys to something called Casa Amor, where they bring in five new girls to tempt them anyways.
- [58:54]
Katie Nolan
But these are new relationships. That's a wild premise. You just met this person. You have no loyalty.
- [59:01]
Chris
Well, they do. You know, they're very hot and heavy for like, three weeks or however long goes before this. But yeah, it is Temptation Island.
- [59:08]
Katie Nolan
You're like, we've been on again, off again for nine years. He will not put a ring on my finger. And you're like, oh, baby. You're looking for it to something to happen so you can end it. You're looking for the breaking point, like.
- [59:20]
Chris
The ultimatum, actually, which is more similar to that. I don't know if you're watching.
- [59:23]
Katie Nolan
And that's. Isn't that Nick Lachey, Wasn't it?
- [59:26]
Chris
Yeah. Like, Shale hosts both that and Love is Blind.
- [59:29]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Who saw this coming? For him to be a reality show host. Is there anything other reality show that you're watching I should know about?
- [59:38]
Chris
I'm watching a new season of Love is Blind which comes out.
- [59:41]
Katie Nolan
I feel like they just had a new season of Love is Blind.
- [59:44]
Chris
They had one during the season. They have a new one. It's in Minnesota. It comes out. Cause I do a love is blind recap show amazing, called Love is Kind with my friend David Dennis Jr.
- [59:54]
Katie Nolan
Perfect.
- [59:55]
Chris
And we've been doing now a couple seasons. It comes out Valentine's Day. We got screeners of it, and it takes place in Minnesota. And the people on it are so. Minnesota, really? Like, yes. Like, it feels like you're watching Fargo.
- [60:10]
Katie Nolan
But it doesn't bother you on that show that nobody's ever, like, ugly?
- [60:16]
Chris
It's. I've thought about this a lot, and I don't think I could deal with the pain of watching a truly ugly person get rejected.
- [60:25]
Katie Nolan
That's a good point. That is a good point. Like, TV wise, it wouldn't be, but you almost think, like, love is blind. The whole concept of that is supposed to be that it's not about looks, but that it just, you know, we can't handle that. We can't handle that. Yeah.
- [60:40]
Chris
Society that's not in a good place sometimes meet up and don't like each other. But you're right. They're never straight up.
- [60:47]
Katie Nolan
Like, they're never like.
- [60:48]
Chris
You never watch it, and you're never like, this is gonna go horribly. You just kind of don't know. It's like maybe they're not their type. And sometimes they're not.
- [60:54]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. I don't know, man. I just feel like, give me a couple. Just give me a couple. Just make it more realistic. Oh, man. Do I ask you about Chad Johnson's clip with Stephen A. Smith? I'm watching your eyeballs to see if you saw that.
- [61:11]
Chris
No.
- [61:12]
Katie Nolan
Do we have it? Can we show it to her?
- [61:14]
Chris
Are we not online enough?
- [61:15]
Katie Nolan
No, I'm too online. Okay, so this clip is from the Stephen A. Smith show on YouTube.
- [61:23]
E
She got to the point where we were. We were in action, and she said in my ear, go deeper. Stay with me now. And what hurt me is I was already all the way in, so I had ran out of pee pee. And that is what caused me to get into amateur porn so I could perfect my craft in the pelvic area so I would never have to hear that again. And I've had surgery since then.
- [61:51]
Mina Kimes
How long was the surgery, man?
- [61:53]
E
Took about 15 minutes.
- [61:55]
Mina Kimes
Surgery was 15 minutes.
- [61:56]
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
- [61:56]
E
Only 8 grand.
- [61:57]
Katie Nolan
Excuse me?
- [61:58]
E
Only 8 grand. So I went from 3 to 11 inches like this.
- [62:02]
Katie Nolan
So you just gonna tell the world.
- [62:03]
Chris
You were 3 inches?
- [62:04]
Katie Nolan
I didn't ask you that question.
- [62:05]
Chris
You.
- [62:05]
Katie Nolan
You didn't have to say that.
- [62:06]
E
I'm just trying to get better context on where I was to where I am now.
- [62:10]
Mina Kimes
How the Hell could that happen in 15 minutes? You got me curious now. And I don't have that problem.
- [62:15]
E
I don't understand how happened 15 minutes. I don't understand technology. I don't know how that works. I just know from the time I went in anesthesia, I was sleep. I woke up, looked, wow, that end, look.
- [62:30]
Katie Nolan
Wow. You're covering both your eyes and your mouth reactions. I.
- [62:38]
Chris
Okay, do we believe him?
- [62:39]
Katie Nolan
I don't know. I don't know.
- [62:42]
Chris
My first reaction is, I can't. First of all, I didn't know this was a thing. I can't believe I actually share.
- [62:48]
Katie Nolan
Stephen.
- [62:49]
Chris
Ace curiosity. I can't believe that would take 15 minutes.
- [62:53]
Katie Nolan
$8,000 is nothing now.
- [62:56]
Chris
Something God.
- [62:57]
Katie Nolan
To call your penis technology. I don't know if I was. If I'm on board with when he said, I don't understand technology. And you're like, well, it's your dick now, so you should know what it's made of and how it works.
- [63:10]
Chris
Just on one hand, I kind of want to praise him for being open, weirdly transparent, progressive.
- [63:19]
Katie Nolan
Right. Honest, supportive, vulnerable. Three is a small number. And he said.
- [63:25]
Chris
And he revealed it.
- [63:25]
Katie Nolan
And he revealed it unasked. I didn't know you could add that much. I didn't know.
- [63:34]
Chris
It doesn't make sense.
- [63:35]
Katie Nolan
It would not add that.
- [63:38]
Chris
Where is none of that? I don't. I don't think I believe this. I think he was just messing with him or something. That doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.
- [63:47]
Katie Nolan
Shadow Cho Cinco not telling the truth. That's. I can't. I mean, that's.
- [63:52]
Chris
That's crazy.
- [63:53]
Katie Nolan
That's crazy. And the way he said that she asked him to go deeper and he said, I'm already all the way in.
- [64:01]
Chris
I mean, it was a great lead in.
- [64:03]
Katie Nolan
Perfect.
- [64:03]
Chris
A well told story, like a viral stunt or something. I don't believe it.
- [64:09]
Katie Nolan
I mean, it worked on me because here we are talking about it.
- [64:13]
Chris
I want to Google and learn more, but I'm afraid, right?
- [64:16]
Katie Nolan
It's like, what words do I use? How do I make sure I leave certain words out? I don't want to be. I don't want a picture. I do not want to be greeted with a photo of any Type. Type.
- [64:25]
Chris
Adding 8 inches in 15 minutes is crazy. I can't even braid my hair in 15 minutes.
- [64:35]
Katie Nolan
I spent an hour on this today. You got a.8 inches is, I think, larger than average as a penis size anyway. You added more than a larger than average penis to your penis.
- [64:48]
Chris
Makes sense. Yeah.
- [64:50]
Katie Nolan
And Also, Greedy question mark, 11 inches you're gonna go up to. I mean, I guess if you're gonna do it, do it. It's like if you're. Boobs go all the way, whatever your skin can handle. But like, I.
- [65:02]
Chris
11 inches, that doesn't. There's something off about that story. That's all I'll say. I'm not really buying.
- [65:10]
Katie Nolan
We need some. We need boots on the ground. If you're single and you're around or interested in Chad Johnson, we need boots on the ground. We need reporting from the field, so someone's got to let us know how it works. So, Mina, that feels like a good time to let you go. Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can watch you, and, yeah, just tell everybody where they can find you, because they're gonna love you.
- [65:36]
Chris
Now, my show, the Mina Kime show, featuring Lenny, is on wherever you get your Pods. It's on YouTube@YouTube.com enakimes if you're listening to this and you like Love is Blind, My Love is Blind recaps start coming out soon, and I think we're gonna do an audio version of that as well. So Love is Kimes.
- [65:54]
Katie Nolan
Look for Love is Kind and NFL Live during the season, right?
- [65:59]
Chris
Oh, yeah. Most often.
- [66:00]
Katie Nolan
Do you do.
- [66:01]
Chris
I do a lot of draft stuff. Yeah. And I'll say this, I'm really listening to this year into the NFL draft.
- [66:04]
Katie Nolan
If you're a casual fan and NFL Live doesn't sound like a show you'd care about, I will say there's a human element to that show now that I've started to really like it. Like the. You guys have a good group there.
- [66:19]
Chris
They are great. They're the best teammates on television you could ask for. They being Laura Rutledge, who's our host, Marcus Spears, Ryan Clark, Dan Orlowski. It's a really fun group.
- [66:31]
Katie Nolan
I love it. The energy. You guys are like a family. You tease each other, but there's love. It's beautiful. It's a really beautiful thing, and I hope that the people in charge recognize that and keep that going. Have fun. Thank you for doing this. Bye. All right, so that was Mina Kimes. I mean, I love. I just love her. She's my favorite. You'll love her, too, if you don't already know her. And if you do, you're like, duh, we'd rather her than you. And keep that thought inside. Okay, a couple news stories to get you here. It was a hard pivot with Mina, and if you know me and You've ever listened to any podcast I've ever made, you know that keeping it to an hour is like. Like a. A crazy feat for me, and I'm working on that. And I kept that with her to a reasonable amount of time, and I could have. I had a lot more stuff I wanted to get into some of it. I do want to make sure still gets mentioned on the podcast. So let me start with. I guess we can skip. You guys all saw. I'm sure that Mavs fans got removed from a game for holding Fire Nico signs and mouthing Fire Nico. He's their gm. I'm questioning with my eyes the guy who's basically responsible for the disastrous Luca trade. They're kicking fans out of the stadium for basically saying, get rid of that guy. Interesting. Something to keep an eye on. It's. We don't love the suppression of the freedom of speech, but I do get like, it's his house. You're kind of in his house being like, get him out of this house. And it's like, well, he's. They don't want to see that. Do you guys have strong opinions on this? You want to share?
- [68:05]
F
It's not the GM's house if it was the owner. Because you hear fans all the time say, sell the team to an ownership group that isn't particularly doing a good job. But here's the gm. He can get sacked whenever the owner wants. To be fair, I think he's sort of like the mouthpiece for the owner because you don't pull the trigger on a trade that big without approval from the ownership. There must have been direction from the ownership for him to get this done, but you can't. The whole point of fandom is to let your voice be heard when something big like this happens. Luke is a franchise player. No one thought he was gonna leave. They gutted the franchise from the inside. If the fans want to say fire Nico, they should be able to do it without getting any sort of.
- [68:45]
Katie Nolan
Your fans loving your player is the ideal. That's what you wanted. So they loved him, they bought in on him, and then you shipped him off. And I think Nico's biggest fault in all of this is he didn't seem to have a reasoning prepared. He didn't seem to have, like, an explanation that took into consideration how shocked and upset people were going to be. It just sort of felt like he was like, yeah, and that crazy. And you're like, nico, what did you do? So I get it.
- [69:15]
F
I. I also have a severe case of, like, you're not my real dad. With that whole ownership team. Because remember Mark Cuban.
- [69:23]
Katie Nolan
Mark Cuban doesn't own it anymore. People forget that. They think he's still Cuban owned this.
- [69:26]
F
Team for a long time. They won championship. They had Dirk. Everyone loved Cuban.
- [69:31]
Katie Nolan
Right.
- [69:31]
F
Then Cuban sold it to the Adelson family, which is a different type of. Of billionaire. And it's kind of, you know, guy who married into money is running the show and hires Nico and they trade the franchise player and the fan base. Kind of feels like you're not allowed to do this.
- [69:51]
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And like, get some thicker skin, dude. Like, they write signs and heckle players all the time. Like, you got involved. We only know your name because you did something kind of boneheaded. So now just like, like, eat that. Suck it up. Like, they'll get over it or they won't. But, like, don't kick people out of the game. Like, I hope you're refunding their tickets. I hope you're giving them back the money they spent to be there if you're not going to let them be there because you are being sensitive, especially with how expensive tickets are now. So anyway, that happened. I know probably not. Luka Doncic also made his debut. Finally. I thought it was funny. They said it was going to happen on Saturday. I believe ESPN like flexed the game so that we'd all get to see LeBron and Luca play together. And then they both sat for that game. Nobody played. Those two did not play in that game. But they did. They did play Monday. Luca's on a minutes restriction, right, Chris, Is what you're saying to me. So he wasn't going to play a lot anyway.
- [70:45]
F
Yeah, I think they went into the game and he had a 30 minute minutes restriction for. For that one. He played 24, scored 14 points, did the bare minimum. But he's coming back from an injury, hasn't played since, I think just before Christmas was the last time. Sometime in December was his last game. So he'd been off for a while. They're easing him back. I don't know how long he's going to be on a minutes restriction for. For these upcoming games. They've got the All Star Weekend coming up this weekend, so maybe they just handle him.
- [71:11]
Katie Nolan
It's All Star Weekend. This weekend.
- [71:14]
F
This weekend.
- [71:15]
Katie Nolan
Damn.
- [71:15]
F
Mac McClung time.
- [71:17]
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God.
- [71:18]
F
Dusting him off.
- [71:19]
Katie Nolan
Oh, this is me caring about the All Star Weekend.
- [71:23]
F
I'm a basketball fan and I have no interest in the All Star Weekend. I haven't for many, many years.
- [71:27]
Katie Nolan
Here's a much more interesting basketball thing. The unrivaled 1v1 tournament that I believe we talked about on an earlier episode. Unrivaled is that 3v3 league owned by some of the players that you know from the WNBA. They are doing this, I believe, three day tournament of 1v1 basketball. Some interesting rules, I believe that Chris was telling us is if you make it, you get to take it.
- [71:55]
F
Yeah, the make it, take it rule. So if you make a basket, you get to keep possession.
- [72:00]
Katie Nolan
And when he said that, I said, that doesn't make a lot of sense in my head, but I must just be misunderstanding. And then last night, the first night of it, the last game of the first night of games, Brianna Stewart, the number one seed, faced off against Aaliyah Edwards and, and she lost 12 nothing. I watched Highlights and was like, I don't think Stewie touches the ball once. If you just make a shot, you just keep making it again. I don't know basketball like that, so let me shut up. But I was like, I don't get to watch Stewie do anything. And now she's done kind of wild. But there's two more days of that, I believe, tonight, Tuesday night, and then Friday night is the final. Great, amazing memory.
- [72:49]
F
You can watch TruTV and TNT if you're interested.
- [72:51]
Katie Nolan
Check your local listings. Are people still saying that? Probably. Yeah. Great. We just did. So now what? And then the last thing. Not a fun one. Not a fun one. But I did want to mention it because I'm a big women's soccer fan. I watched the, the Women's World cup back in 2023. It was in Australia. So like, it wasn't even easy to watch. It was like really brutal times to wake up. But I watched that final. I watched Spain win. It was like 8 in the morning. And I watched the then president of the Royal Spanish Football Federation kiss one of the players on the mouth on stage while she was accepting the award for the fact that they had just won the World Cup. And what I didn't know is that he's on trial, that guy, right now. Today. He testified in court. There they are. For sexual harassment of, of Jenny Hermoso. So I, I, I don't know, maybe just because of the current climate and how things go over here, I was a little encouraged to see that someone's doing something about it. I know in Spain, when he kissed her again, K on the mouth on the stage while she was accepting the award for winning the World cup. And he smooched her on her lips. And then afterwards she was like, I didn't want that. And he was like, she did, she did. It's a thing we do. It's kind of our thing. And then she was like, no, it isn't our thing. I don't like him like that. People took to the streets in Spain. People were very upset, rightfully so. This guy grabbed her face and kissed her. Um, he testified today. Here's what I saw from it. It was live streaming. If you're into that, you can live stream it. Um, here's some of the things I saw. He was absolutely sure. Mr. Rubialis. Did I say his name yet? I should. Luis Rubialis told Spain's national court in Madrid he was absolutely sure the player gave permission for the kiss, adding, in that moment, it was something completely spontaneous. Now, pardon me for knowing what words mean and thinking when you use them, they should be used to convey the meaning that they often convey. Completely spontaneous does not sound like pre planning. That does not sound like there was any sort of agreement on anything happening. So if it's completely. Is it completely spontaneously grabbed her by the face and kissed her after she won the World cup, or did she. Are you absolutely sure she gave you permission to kiss you? Those are two different stories, Mr. Rubialis, is what I would say if I were cross examining. I took hold of her so as not to fall back. I don't know as somebody who's grabbed onto somebody in an attempt to not fall. The cheeks aren't often the part I grab. I don't. I'm going for something a little bit more. Rubial has conceded he made a mistake on the podium and that his behavior was, quote, not appropriate, saying that he should have, quote, been in a more institutional role, end quote, but denied any offense had been committed. Now that again, sir, I think you're saying two different things there. You're like, I know I did wrong. I know it was bad. I should not have done that, but I didn't do anything wrong. So I don't know. I'll double check that. Maybe that's just a translation error. Maybe this is just getting lost in translation, but it sounds to me like you kissed a lady who didn't want to be kissed at a peak in her life that she'd worked for. And now hopefully they make you pay a little bit bit for it. One last thing before we tell you the sports coming up that you can watch this week. One of fastly becoming one of my favorite segments on this podcast. I do want to last week we gave you guys a bingo board for any casual fans that were looking to engage with the super bowl in a way that felt accessible to them. And I didn't know, you know, that's one of those ideas you toss out there and you're like, maybe people will do it, maybe they'll go, this is dumb, but no harm, no foul. It was content about the super bowl, but to my surprise, and I haven't read all of the emails, but I saw two emails specifically saying how glad they were that we did this. I got this one from Marge. I'll just give you kind of the basics of it. Wanted to tell you I took all your bingo board ideas, plugged them into a website, made bingo cards for me and my husband and a bunch of our friends, some of who, some of whom live across the country and we don't get to see them as often as we like. It was a delightful way to watch the game, quote unquote, with people, even when we couldn't be together in person. I just wanted to say thank you for that. And then this one from Matthew. You're welcome, Marge. By the way, love you mean it. This one from Matthew who said, oh, my pages are out of order. Hold on, Matthew, I'm coming for you, babe. Don't leave. I'm telling. I got it. Sorry. Oh, I know you hate a, you hate a cliffhanger. He's okay. I just have to write in to tell you how fun your super bowl bingo game was. I noted all of your bingo suggestions and my wife created cards. She, my kids, mom, sister in laws and I all had a blast with it. My kids actually watched a football game with some interest. My 6 year old won, like truly, truly. If that email from Matthew was the only email I got, I'm like that. Well, that was worth it. That's so cool. So for anybody who was participating in it, I wanted to give. I don't know, I feel like we should do transparency and give our numbers and how well we did in terms of predicting things that were going to happen in the Super Bowl. So I believe we gave you 31 options to mix and match for your bingo board. And of Those I think 16 hit, which is more than half, but only by a little, right? Because it'd be 32.
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Chris
The math checks out right?
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Katie Nolan
So like Mahomes didn't get gifted a call. The one we all thought was the most obvious one didn't happen. So that's when I was like, oh, this is dicey. Maybe I predicted the Wrong Super Bowl. But then pretty quickly, you know, there was clearly AI commercial that Martha Stewart where she's dancing. I was like, that's. I. I don't think was Martha Stewart. Maybe it was. Maybe I'll be egg on my face, but I don't think that was Martha Stewart dancing in that commercial. The tush push. He gets us. I didn't watch the audio on the Jesus commercial this year, but I did. I directed the attention of the party I was at. I said, everyone, excuse me, me. Jesus is speaking. And he spent a lot of money on this loaded. Jesus has something to say to you. Jackson Mahomes. Tik Tok. Knew that was going to hit Paul Rudd. We saw plenty of Bradley Cooper innuendo a lot. But the one I jotted down here, that's got to be a slimy, sticky shower. I think it was about Gatorade. But who's to say, uh, Coach covering their mouth with something comically large like a menu. Saw a ton of that shot of Bourbon Street. Nevermind a shot. They put Tom Brady and Kevin Burkhart on Bourbon Street. And if I. If. If the person responsible for those types of decisions is listening. If I could just have you for a second. What are we doing there? What are we doing there? We know where these guys are. They're up in the booth. They're up in the booth looking out over the field because it gives them the vantage point to be able to tell us at home what's happening in the game. Well, I don't need them to be on Bourbon Street. When did we get it in our heads that you need to pretend the booth isn't the booth? I know they're ugly. I know they're not nice to look at. Not. Not Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady. I'm so sorry. I think they're both very handsome men. I mean, the booth. The booths are usually ugly, but we've already. Problem solved for that. You put up a little step and repeat right behind them. Watch any baseball game and you'll just see like the logo of the station behind them.
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Chris
Them.
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Katie Nolan
Because they don't want you to see what a disgusting mess it is in that booth. I get that. You don't need to recreate Bourbon street and make it seem like Kevin and Tom are out there. Because if I believe that, they gotta go. They need to get inside. I'm not gonna listen to them talk about the game when they're not even inside. You can't hate from outside the club. Get in. So stop doing that. I Guess is that speech, you know, that's mostly covers them all. Mardi Gras beads. We saw a lot of it was good. I think it was a successful. Saquon's reverse hurdle was mentioned in a commercial. That counts. I don't know if that changes things and takes the win out of Matthew's six year old's hands. I hope it doesn't, but I do think we count that. So shout out to everybody who participated in that. A silly little thing that warmed my cold heart. I really loved it. I love it really is the best review of anything I've ever made is when someone says they watched a game with someone they love. Love that they don't normally watch the game with and that person was like engaged in the game and interested. That's what I'm here for. I want you guys to bond with the people you love through sports and I feel like we're giving it more easily to men and I feel like someone's gotta help. Anyway, that's what I'm here for. Let me not get into a big pitch. Christopher and I think, Brady, you've got one in here too. Let's tell the people what we're watching this week if we want to watch sports.
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F
Okay. I think the biggest event for this week that people should keep an eye out for is the Daytona 500, the NASCAR event to kick off the 2025 NASCAR season. It's sort of crazy that the first race of the season is also the biggest race of the season. That's going to be on Sunday at 2:30pm Eastern. You can watch that on Fox. 500 miles of NASCAR cars going very, very fast should be a lot of fun. I have. I don't really have a history with watching a lot of nascar, but I'm going to be glued to this one. I'm going to be very interested to see how it.
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Katie Nolan
I need to. I need to Google the way to inject what the fun way to watch NASCAR races like that is. And what I mean by that is like March Madness. You give me a bracket. I'm invested. I'm watching the Super Bowl Bingo. Like when you watch the Royal Rumble, you pull numbers out of a hat and then those people are your wrestlers and you have a rooting interest. I need because that many laps in a circle, I. My add is too strong. I've been to Daytona. It was one of the coolest experiences of my life. I don't mean to besmirch the sport. All I'm saying is I'm sure somebody Has a drinking game or like some sort of way that you enjoy Daytona. I'm going to look into it because I'd like to know. I'm. I want to get into the car sports, the racing, the various types of racing. There's so much to be enjoyed.
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F
You pick a driver and you defend them to your death.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, well, I picked Chase Elliott one year and he like hit a wall and it was over for him. So I don't know what I don't have. Good luck with that.
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F
Chris, you live in North Carolina. Like how deep into a conversation.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, you have to be into it.
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F
Before someone asks who you're joking driver is, funnily enough.
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So I've got a decent sized friendship group over here and no one watches nascar.
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Katie Nolan
Oh, no, that's an annoying.
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F
None of my friends over here watch.
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Katie Nolan
Nascar, so I can't really.
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F
I don't have it in. I can't get in through them. So I'm gonna have to do this on my own. I did do some quick googling and someone said they have a very fun game that you can play during the Daytona 500. Take a drink anytime I feel like it. Get another beer. When it's empty, repeat. So I think that's probably the best way to get into it.
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Chris
Right.
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Katie Nolan
A good game, easy to remember. Rul and I do appreciate that. What else are we watching sports wise this week?
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F
So we've had a couple of emails asking us to talk about this as well. And we've tried to find the right time and I think now is the right time to mention the pwhl, the Professional Women's Hockey League. There is a game tonight at 7pm Eastern. It's the Minnesota Frost at the Toronto Scepters. Now, if you're in Canada, you can watch this game on Prime Video. If you are outside of Canada, and we're selling.
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Katie Nolan
If you're in Canada, you can watch us on Prime Video. And also. So sorry about most of the stuff. Sorry. And if you're not in Canada, the.
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F
PWHL YouTube channel and also thepwhl.com that's how you can stream the game.
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Katie Nolan
This is what season of the pwhl? Two. I want to say two. Yeah, I watched a bunch of their games last season on YouTube. The quality is good. It's like a streamable hockey game. You know, women's leagues in their infancy need all the support that they can get. So if hockey is interesting to you, if supporting women is interesting to you, toss on one of these games and see. I don't know, I do think Toronto Scepters. That's a. You're really trusting your fan base with that complicated spelling of the name of your. I mean, the. The T, R E Ceptras.
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F
That looks like a Scrabble tile. Scrabble board right there.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah, that'll trip. That'll trip you up. That could trip you up. But. But what is that? A stick. It's like a magic stick. A scepter. Scepter.
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F
Like a. Like a king of the scepter with the big jewel on it.
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Katie Nolan
A magic stick. Minnesota frost. Toronto Scepters, 7pm that's tonight, guys. Don't miss it. Tonight, let's support women in hockey because it's sick and it's badass. What else we got? Oh, Brady, you got one.
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F
I'm. It really snuck up on us because I can't in my entire life remember this happening this early. Like B. Baseball season. Low key started.
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Katie Nolan
Yeah. Okay. This is early, right?
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F
The Cubs, pitchers and catchers. So in baseball, you have spring training because everywhere is cold right now. So you have to go somewhere warm to practice. Arizona and Florida, like half the league.
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Katie Nolan
Goes to each to warm Arizona hot.
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F
The pitchers and catchers have to show up first because hitters can, like, practice for a week and then just go hit. And they're fine pitchers. Their arms need, like six weeks to build up strength and ramp up. The Cubs reported their pitchers and catcher showed up on Sunday, like before the super bowl started. They were in camp, like, having their first workout. So baseball season and football season overlapped for the first time I. I ever remember. They added a football game that and the Cubs and Dodgers open in the middle of March in Japan. So they have an early opening series. They're playing in Japan, like March 18th and 19th.
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Katie Nolan
And that game days.
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F
That game counts.
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Katie Nolan
Okay. All right.
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F
They've done this every now and then. Japan, Australia, somewhere. They'll play two games and then come back. But they. They are full on starting workouts. Everybody reports by the end of this week. And we have all the weird. We just like, even if there's not games to watch yet, because spring training games won't start for like two more weeks. But like, we're doing it.
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Katie Nolan
We have pictures and catchers. If you're a sports fan, you know.
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F
Photos coming out of spring training with. With beat writers trying to digitally zoom in on their iPhone to catch Aaron Judge walking in from the parking lot. We have Javier Assad has a sorrow oblique, but he's not expected to miss time like news trickling into your feed like it matters. It's there.
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Katie Nolan
It's baseball players, baby. We're back. Baseball's ready.
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F
Nine months.
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Katie Nolan
Baseball's ready to break your heart again. And I will have sports to watch in the middle of the day, which, God, I just miss. I just miss it. I'm so grateful to have it back. Okay, baseball's back. And that's. That's it. That's a podcast, you guys. Thank you for listening to casuals. This was what, episode seven? I gotta keep track. Eight, seven. Thank you for listening. This has been awesome. We're having so much fun. If you want to send us an email or a voicemail, that's casualswithkatienolanmail.com voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok, it's asuals, the podcast. We love you so much and we mean it and we will see you on Thursday. Bye.
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Chris
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