Thanksgiving! But also Christmas | with Matthew Daddario & Holland Roden

Summary

Casuals with Katie Nolan – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Thanksgiving! But also Christmas | with Matthew Daddario & Holland Roden
Date: November 27, 2025
Guests: Matthew Daddario & Holland Roden

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Episode Overview

Katie Nolan and her rotating cast of friends, plus special guests Matthew Daddario and Holland Roden (stars of Hallmark’s “Holiday Touchdown: A Bill’s Love Story”), dive into Thanksgiving (and a bit of Christmas), holiday food debates, NFL fandom, the quirks and joys of being a sports fan, and the making of a sports-themed Hallmark rom-com. The conversation is equal parts holiday banter, pop culture, movie talk, and comedic sports analysis, all with Katie’s signature irreverent, welcoming tone.

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Key Discussion Points

Thanksgiving Traditions and Food Debates

Pie Discourse & Holiday Foods

• The group opens with a deep dive into favorite Thanksgiving pies—apple, pumpkin, blueberry, and the heated controversy over “meat pies” ([00:47]-[03:31]).
  • Notable Moment: Chris, the show’s editor, claims meat pies are best, to near-universal disagreement.
  • Arguments ensue over what counts as pie (chicken pot pie? Chicago deep dish?), preferred desserts (pecan vs. “pecan”), and how international backgrounds change the holiday ([03:45]-[05:00]).
• Thanksgiving food favorites surface: mashed potatoes (Katie’s #1), homemade stuffing (Chris), and cranberry sauce (Brady, who insists homemade is vastly superior to canned) ([06:12]-[09:03]).

“I love a big, huge buttery ass bowl of like buttery, salty… mashed potatoes. I will take so many scoops that people start to go what? Leave room for something else. And I say nay.” – Katie ([06:12])

• Isabella (“the pie girl”) reveals she brings both apple and pumpkin pies to Thanksgiving each year, complete with decorative touches ([17:08]).
• The group discusses Thanksgiving duties: cooking vs. bringing flowers or wine, and the anxiety of “finally bringing a dish” as an adult guest ([11:58]-[14:22]).
• Comfort and tradition are front and center in outfit choices—elastic waistbands, classic autumn colors, and the trauma of being roasted for bold fashion moves ([23:15]-[25:49]).

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Thanksgiving Activities & Family Dynamics

• Traditional games (“generational” trivia), chaotic family moments, and the perennial dilemma of who sneaks away first to watch football ([19:48]-[23:15]).
• Peripherals: The Macy’s Parade, the National Dog Show, and the shifting status of football as backdrop to the meal or central event ([20:49]-[22:45]).
• The crew trades tips on shifting difficult table topics (“I really like your outfit!”), the stress of trying to choose perfect attire, and how food comas steer the day ([23:15]-[25:54]).

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Holiday Movies: Thanksgiving and… Hallmark!

Thanksgiving On Screen

• Brady presents a (limited) “Thanksgiving movie canon”—“Planes, Trains and Automobiles,” “Son In Law,” “Dutch,” “A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving,” “Home for the Holidays,” “Grumpy Old Men” ([26:41]-[31:13]).
• The segment is a humorous lament that Thanksgiving movies simply don’t rival Christmas in volume or cultural impact.

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Special Guest Interview: Matthew Daddario & Holland Roden (“Holiday Touchdown: A Bill’s Love Story”)

Hallmark NFL Movie Deep Dive ([38:22]-[76:26])

• Katie introduces Holland and Matthew, who share behind-the-scenes stories of the new Hallmark rom-com set in Buffalo and centered on the Bills fan experience.
• They discuss Buffalo’s unique fandom—“the Bills mafia diaspora”—and local traditions (ketchup/mustard stunts, bowling ball shots, wings cooked on car engines, and epic tailgates).
• Holland, a self-proclaimed “sports non-fan,” explains how her Dallas upbringing didn’t prepare her for Buffalo’s intensity ([39:13]):

  “I thought Cowboys fandom would be hard to top… oh man, [the Bills] trump them—tenfold!” – Holland Roden ([39:14])

• Real Bills personalities and players cameo, including coach Sean McDermott, Dion Dawkins, and Damar Hamlin’s fourth-grade “Peter Pan” stage debut reference gets a shout-out ([44:09]).
• The challenge (and horror) of the “bowling ball shot”:

  “You throw the bowling ball on the ground into the mud, and the next person takes the shot off the bowling ball. There’s no cleaning process…” – Matthew ([42:03])

• The movie’s love plot: best friends (Morgan, a pediatrician, and Gabe, VP of Stadium Development) struggle to acknowledge feelings amidst Bills mania and stadium construction ([60:07]-[62:49]).
• On Hallmark’s signature slow-burn romance:

  “The kiss is like the end of the movie almost always where it finally happens and then you go like, and then what?” – Katie ([33:39])

• Insider Hallmark production notes: filming in Buffalo, effects wizardry (artificial snow!), working at the real stadium, and the “scissor jib” camera innovation ([58:13]).
• Both stars improvise hilarious “build your own $15 sports rom-com casting” scenarios with Drew Barrymore, Method Man, Peyton Manning, Kim Kardashian, and others ([65:16]-[73:55]).
• Discussion of dating as/with sports fans—Holland’s hard “no” to die-hard fans, Matthew’s NYC team struggles, and the universal experience of “rebelling” from a family full of sports lovers ([48:38]-[53:16]).
• Holland on being convincingly Buffalo-obsessed for the role:

  “I was hoping I could be convincing as a sports fan… That was my goal.” ([54:18])

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Holiday Sports Viewing, NFL & Hallmark Futures

• Brief rundown/satirical picks of this year’s Thanksgiving NFL games, tailored for listeners tuning in later ([80:07]-[82:03]).
• Speculation and pitching on what NFL teams should get the next Hallmark movie treatment: Patriots, Eagles, Bears, Jets (with a “butt fumble” plotline), Steelers (“high drama”), and more ([78:49]-[80:36]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Thanksgiving Food:

  • “It takes a lot for a little. And I’m just not into it.” – Katie on turkey ([07:07])
  • “Make [cranberry sauce] yourself. It takes five minutes.” – Brady ([08:05])

• On Buffalo Bills Culture:

  • “The Bills Mafia diaspora is the most impressive sports fandom diaspora in the world… Come at me about it.” – Matthew ([40:25])

• On Hallmark Movie Clichés:

  • “Everyone knows the best part is leading up to the relationship… once the relationship starts, the movie’s over!” – Katie ([33:39])

• On Holiday Movie Creation:

  • “We’re American Bollywood.” – Holland Roden ([57:37])

• On Being Sports Casuals:

  • “It’s very easy to get behind a team if the fan base is enthusiastic.” – Matthew ([47:06])
  • “Absolutely not is so mean. I’m sitting right here. My culture, and you’re saying absolutely not.” – Katie (re: dating sports fans) ([52:40])

• On Hallmark Film Production:

  • “Hallmark knows what they’re doing… they get it done quick.” – Matthew ([58:14])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Thanksgiving Pie & Food Debates: [00:47]-[10:42]
• Family Traditions, Cooking Anxieties: [11:58]-[17:44]
• Thanksgiving Activities & Football Viewing: [19:48]-[22:45]
• Thanksgiving Outfits & Table Talk Strategies: [23:15]-[25:54]
• Thanksgiving Movies: [26:41]-[31:13]
• NFL Hallmark Movie Chat and Guest Introduction: [32:29]-[38:22]
• Interview w/ Holland Roden & Matthew Daddario: [38:22]-[76:26]
  • Buffalo fandom: [39:13]-[41:13]
  • Tailgate traditions: [41:14]-[42:36]
  • Stadium & cameos: [43:01]-[45:59]
  • Love plot and rom-com tropes: [60:07]-[62:49]
  • Sports fan dating: [48:38]-[53:16]
  • “Build Your Own Sports Rom-Com” Game: [65:16]-[73:55]
• Speculation on Next Hallmark NFL Movies: [78:46]-[80:36]
• Thanksgiving Football Game Picks: [80:07]-[82:12]

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Closing Sentiments

Katie wraps with holiday wishes, gratitude for the audience, and a reminder to survive those awkward dinner conversations––plus enthusiasm for the continuation of sports-themed rom-coms.

"We are so thankful for you… the thing we are most thankful for this year is what a fantastic audience we have. We love you so much. We really do mean it." – Katie ([83:08])

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Listen to this episode for:

• The coziest, funniest Thanksgiving sports banter,
• Rose-tinted (and real) tales of football fandom,
• Insight into the intersection of holidays, sports, and pop culture,
• Playful, candid moments with Hallmark’s newest rom-com stars,
• Strategies for both surviving and enjoying your family holiday.

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For more info, follow @CasualsThePodcast on IG & TikTok, and tune in every week for a mix of sports, comedy, and pop culture – with zero old men in suits yelling at you.

Transcript

[Isabella]

It's the season to come together over.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Isabella]

Warm up with a creamy caramel brulee.

[Katie Nolan]

Latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai, or share a velvety peppermint mocha.

[Isabella]

Together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Katie Nolan]

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[Isabella]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Katie Nolan]

What's your favorite kind of pie?

[Isabella]

That's hard. I think I love apple and pumpkin, but I think I may have to choose pumpkin.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, that's. You seem like you're upset about it.

[Isabella]

I know. I'm like. I'm like already thinking in my head.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm like, everyone's mad at me.

[Isabella]

They hate my answer.

[Katie Nolan]

No one's ever hated an answer that you've ever had. Everything you say, incidentally, becomes the correct answer. So I wouldn't worry about that.

[Isabella]

What about you?

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, don't. I couldn't possibly. It's blueberry and they're not gonna like that at all.

[Isabella]

I've had a blueberry crumble.

[Katie Nolan]

Same diff. Kinda.

[Isabella]

I've never had blueberry pie.

[Katie Nolan]

I love a blueberry pie. Underrated. And now. Wait, wait.

[Isabella]

Are you thankful for me?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. What? We're gonna get to what we're thankful for in the body of the podcast. Let's just start that now. Hello and happy Thanksgiving, you little freaks. Congratulations, you made it. You made it to the part of the year where you just get to eat. You guys could just have a day eating. Hopefully you're listening to this. Full as hell. It's casuals, a sports podcast in theory that pre taped so they could be off today. But we have a good podcast for you. Don't go anywhere. We're here for you. Happy Thanksgiving. The casualties are here. Our production team. We have our sports newbie, Isabella.

[Isabella]

Hello.

[Katie Nolan]

Our master editor, Chris.

[Chris]

Of course. Meat pies are the best pies.

[Katie Nolan]

Nobody asked you.

[Brady]

It's not even a dessert.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's Brady doesn't need to be.

[Isabella]

Look, I think meat pies are good though.

[Katie Nolan]

We could do the top of the podcast. Talking about Thanksgiving stuff. Just evergreen Thanksgiving stuff, the way sports media always does. We can get into debates about pie first. I have to tell them how they can reach us, you guys, before we start engaging. I haven't even addressed that. You said meat pie was the best kind of pie. Pie Casuals with Katie Nolan. Gmail.com is our email. 646-810-0043 is our voicemail on IG and Tik Tok. We are at Casuals, the podcast. Okay, now that that's out of the way, Happy Thanksgiving.

[Isabella]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Chris]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Brady]

Thanksgiving.

[Katie Nolan]

What's the best kind of pie? You said meat pie. You can't even specify what kind of meat that is.

[Chris]

Can chuck in whatever you want in there.

[Katie Nolan]

No, you can't chuck nothing in there.

[Brady]

If something has meat in it, it needs to tell me what kind of meat it is.

[Katie Nolan]

Exactly right. Exactly right. I agree with Brady on such a high holiday, but I. It's. He's right. Is a chicken pot pie a meat pie?

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Chris]

No, I don't think so.

[Katie Nolan]

That makes no sense.

[Brady]

Right? Chris's cavalier definition of pie. Can I go with Chicago deep dish?

[Katie Nolan]

No, gosh.

[Isabella]

Shepherd's pie.

[Katie Nolan]

The fact that nobody has mentioned, like a key lime or nobody has brought up pie.

[Chris]

I don't really eat dessert.

[Katie Nolan]

The fact that you guys are trying to say deep dish. Pe. Pizza.

[Brady]

No, Chris is trying to do his. I don't eat dessert pies. I'm not on social media. I don't own a tv.

[Katie Nolan]

The book of pie is better. I like. I prefer the book.

[Brady]

The answer is pecan pie.

[Katie Nolan]

And is it pecan pie or pecan pie? Let's talk. Pronounce.

[Chris]

You'll just yell at me whenever I say.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, you'll probably pronounce it or something. I'm not over slalom. It is. It haunted me.

[Chris]

Still hasn't been corrected.

[Katie Nolan]

Slalom. I haven't looked into it. If Australians say it that way.

[Chris]

No one in Australia has disagreed with me. Also not sure how many listeners we have except for my mom and dad.

[Katie Nolan]

And what does that mean about the outreach you're doing for this podcast? It doesn't say anything good about it.

[Chris]

Great point.

[Katie Nolan]

It doesn't say anything good about that. You need to be boots on the ground over there in Australia where you are until April.

[Chris]

April. April. I'll head over.

[Brady]

Press tour.

[Chris]

Yeah. I like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Many people think that you are in Australia now. It has. I realize people think that because you can't communicate. Every time we do a clip with Chris that is in it. Where you go, like, sounds Australian. In North Carolina. It's just. And if they've never interacted with the podcast before, they just truly think you're in.

[Chris]

Do I always look like I'm 3am in the morning face?

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah. I guess in these clips you're giving too much credit to the people that stumble into your clip.

[Brady]

Start dressing in opposite seasonally appropriate attire.

[Katie Nolan]

I think you should get a fake gigantic spider to put on the wall behind you. That will all go in. My goodness, the bugs there are the number one deterrent for living.

[Chris]

Everyone says it and I'm like, as long as you stay in the city where everyone's going to go anyway, you are not going to see them. Just don't go into the bumfuck middle of nowhere in the outback and you'll be fine.

[Katie Nolan]

But you got to go into the outback. You got to have a. What's it called? A walkabout. You gotta go have a walkabout. I want to go to Australia in the outback. That's what it's called. Right?

[Chris]

I know. That's a movie.

[Katie Nolan]

Do. Am I participating in your culture in a way that. Hey, wait. Do you celebrate Thanksgiving? Is this American and you're American, but you don't celebrate it at all? You celebrate now that I've moved over here? I do, yeah.

[Chris]

But I. I hadn't up until 2018.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. And what did you do on this day? Did you like go, it's American Thanksgiving today? Or were you like, not sure I ever said that? Yeah.

[Brady]

I don't think they get off school for America.

[Chris]

I didn't think they would get off school.

[Katie Nolan]

Brady. I'm not stupid. Okay.

[Chris]

I would also say, hey, it's Friday because in a struggle, Australia, once it gets to Thursday in America, it's Friday in Australia.

[Katie Nolan]

This is.

[Chris]

And so I was just looking forward to the weekend.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, of course.

[Chris]

Every year.

[Katie Nolan]

Of course.

[Chris]

On the faithful Friday it is.

[Katie Nolan]

The nice thing about a Thursday holiday is that it's like. And I. And I won't be coming in on Friday either. So I'll just see you guys on Monday. I really do appreciate that. What is the number one food you guys were grabbing for today? I'll tell you right up top. Mashed potatoes. I'm all about the mashed potatoes. I love a big, huge buttery ass bowl of like buttery, salty. Maybe if you're feeling nasty. Garlic mashed potatoes. I will take.

[Isabella]

That's what we always make it with.

[Katie Nolan]

So many scoops that people start to go what? Leave room for something else. And I say nay, because I don't do turkey. I don't really with turkey like that. I try. I try because my sister in law knows I hate it and tries to make it in a way that makes it more appealing to me every year. And so I give her a little like, oh, that was nice. I like the way that skin was. I don't. It's.

[Isabella]

I know.

[Katie Nolan]

It's boring and boring.

[Isabella]

I'd rather have her rotisserie chicken.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. It's my least favorite meat. I'd rather have the meat I can go buy for $7 at the grocery store. It's already fully cooked and I can break it apart with my hands. Turkey's just. It takes a lot. It takes a lot for a little. And I'm just not into it. So I'm. Mashed potatoes. What about you, Chris?

[Chris]

My wife makes a good stuffing that has sort of become a staple each year, and so I'm very partial to that stuffing.

[Katie Nolan]

And does she put it traditionally inside the carcass of the bird?

[Chris]

We have not done that. We've only been cooking it. She has only been cooking it. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Good, good, good.

[Chris]

For the last few years. Thank you. But we haven't, we haven't put it in there. We just. We just put on the side in.

[Katie Nolan]

Like a baking dish. I think that's how most people do their. Their stuffing now. But I don't know. Brady, what are you eating?

[Brady]

Oh, I'm. I go crazy for cranberry sauce. It gets overlooked all the time. And people keep thinking of like the straight out of the can, little like jiggly tootsie roll of. Of cranberry sauce. Make it yourself.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Brady]

It takes five minutes.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you do?

[Brady]

Crazy high ceiling. You take cranberries, you take sugar, you boil them.

[Holland Roden]

Okay.

[Brady]

You throw in some orange peel, some cinnamon, a little liquor if you want. Good nuts.

[Katie Nolan]

Whoa.

[Brady]

It's amazing.

[Isabella]

We make it the same way.

[Brady]

Amazing.

[Holland Roden]

Look at you two.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you have Thanksgiving together? That's so cute.

[Isabella]

Yeah, I was like, my mom makes that the same way. Yeah, you get.

[Katie Nolan]

You get some raw cranberries, which don't. Don't pop them in your mouth. They're not right. It's a raw cranberries. I. Whoa. They're really sour, really tart.

[Brady]

You ever see that bottle of juice and you're like 100. Cranberry juice. This is probably amazing.

[Katie Nolan]

Dan only recently found out when we started dating early, so it wasn't recent, you know, but early in us Dating and early late in his life that what he liked was cranberry juice cocktail.

[Brady]

Not because real cranberry juice is like paint thinner.

[Katie Nolan]

It's. No, it's good.

[Brady]

It's good.

[Katie Nolan]

It's powerful, but it's powerful.

[Isabella]

You gotta water it down a little bit.

[Katie Nolan]

He didn't realize. He thought he was just drinking. He was like, I love cranberry juice. I was like, 100% juice.

[Holland Roden]

Cranberry juice.

[Katie Nolan]

He was like, yeah, all day and then I bought it. And he was like, po. What is this? This is awful. I was like, that's hundo p. Cranberry. How are you? But, you know, cranberry juice cocktails the best. I I. We go canned. I actually stand for the canned one. Not that I like cranberry sauce all that much anyway, because I'm really not eating any turkey. And that's mostly what it's for. But I don't know. Don't. Don't mix the.

[Isabella]

Put the cranberry sauce on the mashed potatoes and get that. Absolutely not going on.

[Katie Nolan]

Absolutely not.

[Isabella]

No, you're missing.

[Chris]

Absolutely.

[Isabella]

I like. I like to put both. Like, I like the mashed potatoes and the stuffing and the gravy and the cranberries, like, all close to each other. So I can have it either individually.

[Katie Nolan]

You're who these sandwiches that they make are for.

[Brady]

Because the sandwich is the best.

[Katie Nolan]

The day after leftover. That's what everybody says. Isabella, we didn't get what your food is that you love the most that you reach for. Today is.

[Isabella]

It's so hard. I'll probably say mashed potatoes, but I.

[Katie Nolan]

Said it already, so then you'd probably say something else. Right?

[Isabella]

I know when I was gonna say stuffing, but then. All right, so you know what? I will pick. I will pick. No, no, no. You know what? I'll pick the apple pie that I make.

[Katie Nolan]

No, but dinner. But for dinner. Wait, you make an apple pie and you picked pumpkin?

[Isabella]

I know. I'm sorry.

[Katie Nolan]

Absurd.

[Isabella]

It's because apple is just like. I love it all year round, But I only get pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving.

[Holland Roden]

Really?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. That's so true.

[Isabella]

Like, I can have any kind of apple dessert all year round.

[Katie Nolan]

Me too. You gotta take a slice of apple pie, put it in a mug, put it in the microwave, heat it up for, like, 40 seconds, then take it out, put vanilla ice cream in it, smush it up with your spoon, and eat that. That is a fucking. That's what I do with my blueberry pie any time of year.

[Brady]

Also great with booze.

[Katie Nolan]

Really. Really? It's a real slutty little dessert in your mug, and you're just going like, oh, my God, it's hot and it's cold at the same time. It's fucking. It's freaky. Get real freaky. Naughty. We talked. Do we talk about this in the radio. We talked about on the podcast that I don't cook. I think it was radio for Thanksgiving. I have. I've gotten to the. I asked the radio station, the listeners, if there's an age where you're supposed to have started offering to cook a dish for the meal and how far I've blown past it. And everybody, like, unanimously, we're like, you are way past it. Just keep enjoying the. You don't cook. Listen, I come from out of town. I'm always traveling to Thanksgiving, so it's not like I can. From far away. I'm not gonna bring food. I cooked here. That's crazy. In my tiny New York kitchen where I use my oven as a drawer. And then also, like, what. I'm gonna get there and go, like, move over people who have always made these dishes. I'm gonna make one. But I'm curious, and I would like everybody's input, not listeners, because it's too late now. You can't tell me anything. It's Thanksgiving, where you're listening to this and it. And I'm done. I. I bookmarked an. A recipe that seemed easy enough to make, and I'm wondering, should I just, like, lobby it out there that I should try to bring food?

[Isabella]

Don't commit if you can't.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Brady]

Well, so you're trying to get pre approval on the recipe.

[Katie Nolan]

I'm just trying to see, like, is it worth it? Will I get credit? Or will they just. Will it make them realize, like, whoa, wait a second. We let you get this deep into coming to Thanksgiving, and you've never once brought any.

[Isabella]

I was gonna say they may become more aware.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. It might be that they didn't.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Chris]

You're opening a door that you can't close, because then from now on, if you put it out there that you're willing to make something, even if they say no this year, they're gonna come back to you in more, like, more advanced time.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

What's that word?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. I like you trying to.

[Chris]

More advanced notice.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Chris]

And. And, like, tell you early on. All right, now you can. Now you can cook it. Let's.

[Matthew Daddario]

Let's.

[Chris]

Let's see how you go.

[Katie Nolan]

So basically, what we're Saying is the.

[Chris]

Fact shoehorned into this every year.

[Katie Nolan]

The fact that nobody has asked. Asked me to do it is a blessing.

[Brady]

I think you're opening yourself up to finding out things you don't want to find out.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, but I already.

[Brady]

You're going to send out the recipe.

[Katie Nolan]

They told me that they.

[Brady]

You're gonna send out the recipe, and they're gonna be like, katie, you can't do this. It's like a karaoke DJ that's like, you can't. No, I'm not giving you Celine Dion. Like, this is out of your range. You cannot cook this. You don't want to find these things out.

[Isabella]

You know what you can do? Because every. Every Thanksgiving table may want this.

[Holland Roden]

This.

[Isabella]

Be the person that brings flowers.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Isabella]

Bring the person that brings flowers.

[Katie Nolan]

There's no room on a table for flowers at Thanksgiving.

[Isabella]

No, but, like, maybe on the coffee table or something. Or people just like it when you come to their house.

[Chris]

What about just a nice wine?

[Holland Roden]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

I literally told you I have a recipe ready, and you. And you don't even want to hear what it might.

[Isabella]

What is it?

[Katie Nolan]

You didn't even go, like, well, what is it? If it's a salad, maybe she can pull that.

[Chris]

I'm just trying to save you from cooking.

[Katie Nolan]

It immediately went. You're not gonna be able to pull that off. Why don't you bring jokes? Why don't you bring your personality? It's a corn souffle. No, listen, it's like cornbread in a dish, okay? It's jiffy muffin mix. Corn muffin mix. That's easy. Melted butter, eggs, corn from a can.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

A can of other corn cream style, sweet corn, sour cream, sugar, honey salt, and honey butter. And you mix the ingredients, you put it in a baking dish, and then everybody can have like a sort of. It's kind of a vegetable dish, but it's also a bread.

[Isabella]

No.

[Katie Nolan]

What do you mean, no?

[Isabella]

I say don't. It's because of the souffle part, but.

[Katie Nolan]

It'S just what it's. You could also call it corn casserole. Boom. Salt.

[Brady]

You got this. I have made this. This is not Celine dion. This is ke$. You got this. The dj will play this for you.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Brady]

That said, you got this.

[Katie Nolan]

You've made this.

[Brady]

This is doable.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, I thought you were pitching me a different dish.

[Brady]

No, no, no. This sounds fantastic.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you.

[Brady]

Everybody loves the. It's like cornbread, but it also is, like, a little softer. It has the corn in it. It's like A corn pudding, and it.

[Katie Nolan]

Shows up in a baking dish, which means I look like everybody else bringing stuff in in a baking dish. It looks like I've exerted the exact same amount of effort, even though I haven't.

[Isabella]

Can I give you a little tip?

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Isabella]

Trader Joe's has a cornbread mix that has, like, pieces of corn in it.

[Katie Nolan]

Ah.

[Isabella]

If you want to like, extra.

[Katie Nolan]

But then I will also be putting in two cans of different types of corn. Then I.

[Brady]

Different types of corn.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, it said cream. One of them was like a creamed style corn, and one of them is whole kernel. I salute you, whole colonel.

[Brady]

Just me. I would suggest little Old Bay. Little Old Bay.

[Katie Nolan]

You would. And it's not gonna. That doesn't go at all. You're just a Maryland guy through. What do you bring to the. To dinner, Brady?

[Brady]

Oh, I do the cranberry sauce.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, that's right. And Chris, what do you bring?

[Brady]

I do the cranberry sauce, but also, like, we've been hosting for five years, so.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, you host.

[Katie Nolan]

So you've got.

[Brady]

So you do the turkey itself also?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You also. That means you must have some sort of an appetizer thing that you love to do. You must have like a. Oh, it's Brady's little cheese plate. Or, oh, Brady's got the shrimp cocktail coming out. Or, oh, have one of Brady's fancy Bloody Mary. There's gotta be something. The dad of the house always goes like, welcome. Let me get you one of my signature Swedish meatballs from the crock pot. Like, what's your thing that you've got going that everybody needs to try when.

[Brady]

They get nothing, you nail it with the Bloody Mary. You always have the Bloody Mary bar when people show up, especially if you're allowing them to show up earlier than you want them to. Got to give them something to do. I'm a fan of the Bloody Mary. That has a ton of unnecessary in it.

[Katie Nolan]

That needs a fork and a knife and a side plate to get through whatever you've got hanging off the side.

[Brady]

Like, if I can skewer a whole meal, like, I've done little. Like little cheeseburgers on a skewer. Throwing into the Bloody Mary before.

[Katie Nolan]

Fancy. Look at Chris's face. It is disgusting.

[Chris]

That really is.

[Katie Nolan]

He's like, what are you talking about?

[Isabella]

Wait, Chris, what did you say you brought to the table?

[Chris]

I let my wife do the bringing.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Chris]

I might. I might buy a bottle of wine.

[Katie Nolan]

Criticism is rampant.

[Chris]

She. She enjoys the process.

[Katie Nolan]

I bet she loves doing your laundry. As well. I bet that brings her away. Yeah. She goes, oh, I just feel this sparks real joy. Marie Kondo Joy all the time.

[Brady]

Isabella, what do you say, Resident trad editor?

[Isabella]

I. I'm the one that does the pies. That's why I'm.

[Katie Nolan]

You're the pie girl.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

And you bring multiple or just the one? Multiple.

[Isabella]

I bring apple and pumpkin.

[Katie Nolan]

That's crazy. That's.

[Holland Roden]

So.

[Katie Nolan]

This makes the cold open insane to me. Now I understand why your first reaction was, oh, no, I can't pick my children.

[Isabella]

No, literally, that's. That's like every single year. Like, the tradition in my family is that everyone kind of has their own thing. So, like, my brother does the mashed potatoes and, like, I do the pies. Whatever. And the apple pie, what I always do is I carve out the shape of an apple.

[Brady]

Oh.

[Isabella]

And then the piece of the leftover dough, I roll it up and put. Make it look like it's a worm coming out of the.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. I'm obsessed.

[Isabella]

I'll show you a picture.

[Brady]

Please do I defend her on the pumpkin pie? There is very little to be gained from making your own pumpkin pie.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Why?

[Brady]

Like, I think it's a Garrison Keiller line that the. The best pumpkin pie you've ever had is like 5% better than the worst pumpkin pie you've ever had. Like, I've tried making pumpkin pie before, and it's like this Betty Crocker does this better than me.

[Katie Nolan]

It just. And I know I'm a lady who just pitched a thing that was mostly out of a can, but. And I. And also the. The cranberry sauce in a can, but the amount of when you realize it's like fully out of the can into the pie and then you're just kind of letting it sit is like. It's like, oh, it's really. Is just the.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Contents.

[Isabella]

Libby's. Libby's pumpkin pie recipe on the side of that can. It's.

[Katie Nolan]

That's what you use. Which pie goes quicker?

[Isabella]

I want to say, actually, it might be apple.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's right.

[Isabella]

Pumpkin, I think has to stay in there a little bit longer. But I don't remember. I remember the recipe every year. I don't. I gotta.

[Katie Nolan]

When did you start getting assigned your job?

[Isabella]

I've been doing this since I was a kid.

[Katie Nolan]

You've been making the pies since you were a kid?

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Holy shit. I'm so behind. This is the thing.

[Holland Roden]

Like, no.

[Katie Nolan]

My mom barely makes any food for Thanksgiving. We are not the cooking Family, and that's okay. We bring the vibes. You know what I mean? We bring the weed, and we bring the vibes. We bring the game, and we usually run point on the I game show, host the game portion of the night to the best games. Do you play? We. Well, every year, we switch it up. We try different things. We have this one we've been playing in the last few years that I do. Couldn't tell you what it's called, but it's a generational game. So it's like you're asked trivia questions, you team up, you make teams, and then somebody on the team asks somebody else on the team questions based off of a generation. If you go for your own generation. So if I picked millennial questions, you get, like, the least amount of points if you get them all, right? But if you were to go out of your generation into one of theirs and get those right, you get more points. It's very complicated, and I'm sure it's called something, and someone listening to this is like, I know what it's called, and I won't be Googling. Usually by then, at least one or two members of the family is the type of drunk that's hard to deal with and wrangling them to play the game. We'll do a part where we introduce the rules, and then we'll go like, okay, time to go. And then it's either Roberta or Tracy will always come over and go, how do we play? What are the rules? And you're like, guys, we play the same game every year. Okay? It's like, at this point, three years in a row, we've done this, and you've got to go over the rules again. There's a lot of yelling. Tracy will knock over an entire bottle of win.

[Chris]

Tracy, cup of skirt.

[Katie Nolan]

Tracy's a mess. But you know what? That's what family's all about. Are you guys sneaking away? We will get to the rest of this podcast in just one second. Are you sneaking away to watch the football, like, right away, or are you doing the dishes and participating in that whole theater before you leave to watch? What's the relationship that you guys have with football today?

[Chris]

You're making me look bad on this podcast. I try to sneak away as quick as I can as long as the television is showing it. Because we sort of alternate each year going to my wife's aunt's house in North Carolina or going up to my wife's cousin's house in Jersey. Jersey's just great. There's A bunch of people. The football's always on. Everyone's getting drunk. My wife's aunt's house in Greensboro, there's only a few people.

[Katie Nolan]

Aren't doing yourself any favors today. You said it's great when we do my family. When we do her family.

[Holland Roden]

No, no, no.

[Chris]

Her cousin. They're both her family, they're not mine.

[Brady]

No one has made you do this.

[Chris]

Yeah, no. So when we go up to Jersey to visit her cousins, there's a lot of people. Everyone's watching football, everyone's drinking. It's fun. When we go to her aunt's house in Greensboro, there's only a few people there. And none of those people like football. They all like. What do they watch? Like the.

[Katie Nolan]

The parade probably the parade. Yeah.

[Chris]

And I'm just sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting and it's a lot. It's not, not a whole lot of football going on.

[Brady]

Brady, Dog shows on one. It's like the midpoint between parade and football game.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, true. That is true. I'm usually doing my hair in my parents bathroom going what time are we leaving at that point? So Brady, when do you watch the football? You go, you sneak away, you do the dishes.

[Brady]

Fair question. Open concept house. I can do dishes while watching.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's why it was invented and that's why we all opened our kitchens up into our living rooms. Was specifically for this. We have it on all day. We keep it on during the dinner. I don't know. As I've gotten older. Cause we'll do the same thing as Chris. Some years we've got a big Thanksgiving with all the people coming and then sometimes it's less people, a smaller venue. Those people go with the other half of their family type of a deal. I'm there every year. I'm bout it bout it. You know what I mean? Nobody else wants me cause I'm not bringing anything. So this is where I go every year and we just leave the. As the years have gone on. We used to turn it off. Then I think we would mute it. Now I think it's full sound on. I don't even think we're trying to. It distracts from conversation.

[Brady]

Which earth has gotten trumper and we need more description.

[Katie Nolan]

Right. It's just really helpful to just be talking. It's very helpful to go. The lions did what? Now let's all direct our attention behind us to the big tv. Anything else you guys found that you used during Thanksgiving to direct the conversation? I just. I know it's too late, but People might be listening to this right after dinner as they're about to enter the dessert portion. Anything you can toss out there to immediately redirect conversation from the bad stuff.

[Isabella]

Oh, I really like your outfit.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, that's nice. That's a nice outfit. Except actually, don't we all kind of wear the same thing to Thanksgiving every year? Isabella was saying this today, and she goes, you know, it's always like a black turtleneck. And I was like, that was two years.

[Isabella]

Some kind of like burnt orange.

[Katie Nolan]

You gotta have a fall color.

[Isabella]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Everyone's wearing their fall colors.

[Isabella]

And every year I'm always like, let me do something different. And then I hate it. And then I tear everything off and I'm like, black turtleneck it is.

[Katie Nolan]

Last year I wore these boots. I've got these big. What's it called?

[Brady]

Doc Martens.

[Katie Nolan]

Doc Martens. But they're like the platform ones. I bought them by accident. I didn't mean them to be such stomping boots. But I wore them with a skirt and tights. Same thought process of like, let me do something cute and different. And by the. I took off the shoes right away coming in the door. It was snowing and there were dogs and kids. And I took the shoes off. But my. I at one point saw my family members looking at me and crowded around each other in a group. And I went over and I go, what's everybody talking about? And my cousin Matt said, what the fuck is with those boots? And I was like, this is why I don't try anything. And like, since that day I've been like, are these boots bad? Actually? Should I be embarrassed of my boots?

[Isabella]

No, they're really cute.

[Katie Nolan]

And then my tights ran. Thank you, Isabella. And then my tights ended up running. And I was like, I'm wearing that black turtleneck and. And burnt orange pants. Next year I'm going back to my old traditional.

[Isabella]

See, the part of my thinking whenever I get dressed for Thanksgiving is always what is not gonna feel like it is piercing my belly because I feel so full.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. What can I. Stocking unbutton.

[Isabella]

Exactly.

[Katie Nolan]

And nobody will know.

[Isabella]

So I'm like, I want like the most comfortable, maybe jeans a little bit looser, right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah. It's all about the loose fitting jeans, elastic waistband.

[Holland Roden]

If you.

[Katie Nolan]

If you have it and pull it off. I know I saw a lot of things on Tick Tock of people going, these pajama jeans, unreal. And then all the comments were like, I've tried these. They are very clearly pajamas. Pretending to be jeans. Do not wear these out in public. People will know. It's not as. Not obvious as it appears in a video. I'm going to try to. I think I might wear spandex. That's. I miss that trend. I miss when we were all doing leggings under a long sweater because that was the best Thanksgiving meal outfit. Because it was like, these will stretch no matter what. These will be with you. It's like a hug. You can get away with it. Long sweater means you can do anything you want. So that's probably what I'll be. And the boys always wear the same thing. Correct. Same thing.

[Brady]

I have Amazon essentials golf pants in eight colors. Yeah, of course I'm wearing the same.

[Katie Nolan]

Amazon essentials golf pants. Thank. Thanks, Bezos for providing.

[Brady]

If Bezos is going to keep making me cheap pants, I'm going to keep buying cheap, cozy pants from Bezos.

[Katie Nolan]

So unfair. Because if I wore Amazon pants, you'd go, those are Amazon pants. When a guy does it, you go like, you look nice today, Brady. Nice pants. You know what I mean?

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Not that I've ever seen your pants because it's always on. Zoom.

[Chris]

Sounds that. That sounds like an insult, though.

[Holland Roden]

What?

[Katie Nolan]

Nice pants.

[Chris]

Nice pants. Pant guy.

[Katie Nolan]

I guess the segue. What's wrong?

[Brady]

I was just gonna say I enjoy Evil Chris today. Like, what? Nice.

[Katie Nolan]

I know. Chris is really exposing himself. Nice pants just sounds the crazy thing. Also, I just said you were exposing yourself, which sounds. We're talking about pants. I just. There is a specific type of listener for whom you are hot that this will actually serve to make you hotter. I'm. It's unfortunate for them.

[Chris]

Interesting.

[Katie Nolan]

But there is at least one listener who's going to go, like, I can fix him. I think I can make him respect women one step at a time. Like, oh, the segue of what we were supposed to do here is like, look, there are no Thanksgiving movies, really, are there? Brady made us a list. I've heard of, like, two of these Thanksgiving movies. Not the same as Christmas movies. Not exactly the big. It's not a big industry. We've got planes, trains and automobiles. Son in law. What's going.

[Matthew Daddario]

Son in law.

[Brady]

Polly Shore and Carly Gino.

[Katie Nolan]

What was the last classic?

[Brady]

Carla Gugino. Okay, Jugino. There's two GS back to back, same sound. She is from a small town farm, goes away to the big city to college. Paulie Shore is her RA who has been in college for like nine years. He has nowhere to go for Thanksgiving. So he comes home with her. When she gets home, her longtime hometown boyfriend proposes to her. And in a panic, she says, no, no, no, I'm. I'm. I'm marrying Paulie Shore. And lo and behold, Paulie Shore has to fit in.

[Katie Nolan]

Absurd.

[Brady]

The small town farming group.

[Katie Nolan]

It's absurd how many plots we have like that. Where they go, Seattle, I' backed into a corner. I'm marrying this guy.

[Holland Roden]

And you're like.

[Isabella]

And then.

[Katie Nolan]

And then the whole movie is based off of those hijinks.

[Brady]

They're good hijinks.

[Katie Nolan]

It's such a. It's such a. Let me stop because we are actually teasing that. That's what. We've kind of got a little bit of that on the show today. We've got a movie that's. But anyway, so son in law. All right, Dutch. What's Dutch?

[Brady]

Dutch was Ed o' Neill at, like, the peak of Married with Children. And they were like, this guy could try film and do film.

[Katie Nolan]

No, didn't work.

[Brady]

No, it was him. And, like, he was accompanying a kid home for Thanksgiving. I don't remember all the finer points on that.

[Katie Nolan]

Well, those are. That's fine enough for me. A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving. I've seen parts of that.

[Isabella]

That's a good one.

[Katie Nolan]

I've seen parts of that.

[Isabella]

That's like, the only one I've seen.

[Katie Nolan]

What happens, though? That's where the football one is, right when they pull the football away.

[Isabella]

And I think Snoopy and Woodstock are the ones, like, creating the dinner. I think, what the fuck?

[Matthew Daddario]

I think.

[Isabella]

I think Snoopy's cooking in that. In that movie.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. Snoopy's really making me look like hole they got a dog and a bird doing the cooking. And I'm like, nobody asks me. I don't. I couldn't possibly do it.

[Isabella]

Sets up the table or something like that.

[Katie Nolan]

Damn. Beagles as a breed. Very good in the kitchen.

[Isabella]

Oh, wait, you guys didn't ask me what my football. Football and Thanksgiving is like in my house.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, you're. You're absolutely right. And that's Chris's fault. That was Chris's sexism leaking over into the rest of the well.

[Isabella]

What I wanted to say is there is none. Okay, well, I don't. I didn't grow up in a football family, so it just. There's no football on, but kind of like it. And also goes in with this little bit here is we. I do love to watch specifically the episode of Friends that's in Thanksgiving and they go outside to play football.

[Katie Nolan]

That is a really good one. That's a very. It's a notable one, a memorable one.

[Isabella]

So I do like to watch that on Thanksgiving.

[Katie Nolan]

That is a fun one.

[Brady]

What about means that Isabella never saw the 2001 Scott Stapp halftime show at the Cowboys Thanksgiving game?

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, shouldn't we show anywhere?

[Brady]

It's bad time.

[Katie Nolan]

No. And it's bad.

[Brady]

I think this is going to be. And we won't be able to take home assignment.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Scott Stab 2001 performing with the rest of Creed at halftime of the Cowboys game. Very crotch forward. Lots of people flying around. There's a tucked in football jersey. It's an event.

[Katie Nolan]

Who's doing halftime at any of the games this year? Who do we have announced? These are always such interesting experiences. The little pre game shows and halftime shows that they do on the Thanksgiving game. Sometimes you're like good. Sometimes you're like, this is great. And sometimes you go, what is this?

[Brady]

I don't know which one's doing which game, but we got Post Malone probably.

[Chris]

Doing Dallas and Casey.

[Brady]

Jack White probably doing the Lions game because Jack is in Detroit. And then Lil John doing. What's the third one? Bengals.

[Chris]

Ravens and Bengals.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Brady]

It's a good lineup.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

This is me doing my Lil John. It's just kind of. It's a little bit. It's a little white lady. Yes. We got one of those laughs out. Isabella. I do really love those. That little giggle that she does like covering the microphone. I have to say Holly Hunter's home for the holidays. I would hate to finish the segment without mentioning Holly Hunter's home for the holidays. What's that, Brady?

[Brady]

Holly Hunter went home for the holidays. I don't remember much past that.

[Holland Roden]

Okay.

[Brady]

I think that kind of nails it.

[Katie Nolan]

It's kind of summed up up in the title. And then Grumpy Old Men.

[Brady]

Kind of part of that movie takes place at Thanksgiving. But it's enough.

[Katie Nolan]

Enough that you can watch those out with your families which. With the. With the greatest. Just the greatest outtakes in any.

[Brady]

Burgess Meredith. Being the horniest old man to ever live will never not be funny.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, it's very funny. Those movies make my mom cry. Laughing. And nothing makes my mom cry at all. So that's. We really tap into her emotions with Grumpy Old Men. The reason we bring up movies. Movies is because today we have joining us on the show the stars. Not just people in a movie. Okay. We have the stars of a new holiday movie. I don't know how much you guys are partaking in Hallmark movies in the holiday season. But if you're not familiar with the genre, it's similar to Lifetime. They churn this time of year. They churn out sentimental rom comy, holiday themed movies, just plots that you never would have dreamed of, plots you may have thought of before. It's just content on content. And truly, they give us so much this time of year. And last year, Hallmark gave us a movie that was titled Holiday Touchdown, A Chief's Love Story. And it followed. Did we talk about it here? I don't recall.

[Chris]

Not really.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't keep track. And you guys only do this with me, so you should maybe know. Did we talk about it here?

[Chris]

But it followed, I think on the pod.

[Katie Nolan]

No, it followed Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, but as like not really them. It was like the Law and Order version of their relationship where they go, this is based on a true. But any resemblance to true things is just a coincidence type of a situation. And then this year they came out with A Holiday Touchdown, A Bill's love story. And at first we thought that it was going to be about Josh Allen, Hailee Steinfeld. Not true. Not what happened. But it is a rom com based off of two Bill's fans falling in love. In the shadow, I guess, of a new stadium being built. There's a lot of actual ties to things going on. They say the word high mark in this movie more than I would have guessed. If you gave me an over under for the amount of time the branding of the stadium is named is mentioned, I would have gone like, I don't know, two times. It's a lot more than that. It is.

[Brady]

That's the best way to make this a drinking game. I think you drink every time there's.

[Katie Nolan]

A high mark or every time they don't kiss. And that's across the all Hallmark films. Is it? The kiss is like the end of the movie almost always where it finally happens and then you go like, and then what? And they go, well, once the relationship starts, the movie's over. It's. It's the every. No, everyone knows the best part is leading up to the relationship. So this is the second Hallmark movie based on an NFL franchise. And it must be a real partnership. Brady, because they're using NFL footage in this movie, real NFL footage. Drake May is technically in this movie.

[Chris]

This is.

[Brady]

This is the Drake May movie.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right. So far. So far he could be a star. We don't know. And I don't want to limit him in that way. But we have the stars of this film. They came by to talk to us. We got a screener. We all got to watch it early, but so we got the two stars of this movie. They play Morgan and Gabe. Gabe is the Bill's VP of stadium development and Morgan is a pediatrician. They're neighbors, lifelong in the lifelong Bill's fans from Bill's families. And this movie focuses on these two and their and their love story. It has premiered by now. Yes. Yeah.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Holland Roden]

The movie.

[Katie Nolan]

It came out on the 22nd, so if you haven't seen it already, you can find it now. You can find it on Hallmark Plus. So the movie is called Holiday A Bill's Love Story. It's available now on Hallmark plus, or I'm sure they're running it on Hallmark. And the stars Holland Rhoden and Matthew Daddario joined us and we will come back with them in just a sec after a break. We'll be right back. Most holiday gifts end up in a drawer, let's be honest, or the back of your closet or, I don't know, accidentally left at your cousin's house. But not this one. Mint Mobile is offering unlimited premium wireless for 15amonth. That's their best deal of the year, aka the only holiday gift you'll actually use every single day. All Mint plans come with high speed data in unlimited talk and text on the nation's largest 5G network. Don't get them socks. They don't want those. Get them premium wireless for 15amonth. Shop Mint Unlimited [e-mail] casuals that's mintmobile.com casuals. There's an E on the end of mobile in case you didn't know that. Limited time offer upfront payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for 12 months. Plan required $15 per month equivalent taxes and fees extra initial plan term Only greater than 35 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. Capable device required. Availability, speed and coverage varies. See mint mobile.com for details. As the air turns crisp and the holidays draw near, comfort becomes the best gift of all. Quint's delivers layers that last, sweaters, outerwear and everyday essentials that feel luxurious, look timeless and make hol and gifting effortless. They have it all. Quints $50 Mongolian cashmere sweaters made for everyday wear. They've got denim that never goes out of style and down outerwear built to take on the season. I have gotten from Quint a number of things that I like, but the one that probably makes the Most sense to tell you about right now is that 100% organic cotton fisherman crew sweater. I love that sweater. It's like a multi season sweater. You can make it a fall sweater or a winter sweater. It could even be a like summer nights sweater. So step into the holiday season with layers made to feel good, look polished and last. From Quint. You can gift them or you just keep them for yourself. Go to quint.comcasuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. It's available in Canada now too. Q U I n c e.com casuals to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com casuals hey Fidelity.

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[Holland Roden]

Huh.

[Brady]

That sounds easier than I thought.

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[Katie Nolan]

Joining us now, the stars of holiday Touchdown A Bill's Love Story which premieres Saturday, November 22nd at 8 8pm it will have premiered by the time this airs. We have Holland Roden and Do you want to go Matthew or Matt Daddario?

[Matthew Daddario]

What do you prefer?

[Brady]

Matthew's good.

[Katie Nolan]

It says Matthew and it sounds like fancy actor Matthew.

[Matthew Daddario]

Go. Yeah, fine. Go fancy actor Matthew, Matthew and Holland.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi guys.

[Brady]

Hello.

[Katie Nolan]

Thanks for being here.

[Holland Roden]

Thanks for having us.

[Katie Nolan]

I just watched you guys kiss last night. Spoiler alert. Is that a spoiler?

[Matthew Daddario]

It's a Hallmark movie. It's a spoiler, yes, but it's a Hallmark movie. So this time why are we tuning in?

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe eventually they kiss. You'll have to watch. Who could say a Hallmark movie, a Christmas movie about the Bills. Fascinating to me. They're obviously a fascinating team. I wanna know, how much did you two know about Buffalo Bills fandom before you started filming this movie?

[Matthew Daddario]

How much do you know?

[Holland Roden]

I am from Dallas, Texas, so I thought that the Cowboys Fandom would be hard to be topped.

[Katie Nolan]

Uh huh.

[Holland Roden]

And oh man, do they trump them. I mean, they tenfold over. It's lovely when you go into Buffalo. It's a small town city is what I call it. Cause it's the city of good neighbors, but I call it the city of no traffic. It's amazing, guys, as an LA person, as someone who came from downtown this morning and it took us 45 minutes to go three miles. Yes, less than three miles. I love that there was no traffic. I love that the entire city is decorated in murals and yard signs. You think it's like an election going on for the Buffalo Bills. And this goes on all year round, obviously. So it's just in the blood life of this city. And that was so unique to be able to be a part of the and showcase it.

[Matthew Daddario]

I'll say that. You know, you don't have to be in Buffalo to know how many fans they have here. Driven around the country, people have Bills flags waving in front of homes in every city in this country, every town in this country. You drive anywhere around this country, you're gonna see Bill's fans somewhere. Heck, I've even seen things in foreign countries with Bill's stuff on it. They love it. The Bills Mafia diaspora is the most impressive fandom, sports fandom diaspora in the world.

[Katie Nolan]

Global.

[Matthew Daddario]

And I'm saying that I'm including every soccer team. So come at me about it. It's fine, I'm doing it. So Bill's mafia?

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Matthew Daddario]

I knew about them. They're wild. And they lived up the expectation once we were in it.

[Katie Nolan]

I will say a shocking lack of ketchup and mustard in this movie. Neither of you was covered in ketchup mustard.

[Holland Roden]

We were not. But there's only one particular human being that usually is. And we got to clean him off with a Q tip in his ear.

[Matthew Daddario]

She got to clean him off our.

[Holland Roden]

First game of the season. I was honored. It's the Q tip. It's not me personally, but, you know, my hand touches the Q tip.

[Katie Nolan]

You Q tipped his ear?

[Holland Roden]

The man to get the ketchup.

[Katie Nolan]

A stranger to you?

[Holland Roden]

Well, we're actors. I mean, you're thrown into a lot of scenarios.

[Matthew Daddario]

There are no strangers. She did a great job. She did a really good job cleaning him up. And you know, it's cold out and he's covered in the ketchup and mustard. He needs to be clean.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right.

[Matthew Daddario]

And Holland did an excellent job.

[Holland Roden]

It was really the bowling ball shots, which I am not one to Take a shot. And everyone's like, oh, the bowling ball's kind of gross. I was like, no, the alcohol is gross. Gross. And it was this Polish cherry liqueur that they told me was sweet. That was not a kamikaze. Let me tell you right now.

[Katie Nolan]

I told you it was as sweet as a kamikaze.

[Holland Roden]

No, they just said, oh, it's sweet. It's not bad sweet to me. Oh, my God. That was. That was turpentine going down my track.

[Matthew Daddario]

To be clear, we're not jumping from. Okay, so there's a ketchup mustard guy.

[Holland Roden]

And right next to the ketchup mustard guy is a bowling ball shot at the. At the tailgate, which is normal for the Buffalo Bills.

[Katie Nolan]

A shot out of buff.

[Holland Roden]

Out of a bowling ball. And then next to that is a filing cabinet of pizza being baked. And next to that are wings and a different array of different dips and breads that have been baked on a car engine.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh.

[Holland Roden]

And that's how they do it.

[Matthew Daddario]

And I want to clarify, you're saying that the bowling ball was not gross, that the. The alcohol was gross.

[Holland Roden]

The alcohol was gross.

[Matthew Daddario]

This is objectively false. Every time you take the shot, gross.

[Holland Roden]

Because it's the same bowling ball ball.

[Matthew Daddario]

Throw the bowling ball on the ground into the mud, and the next person.

[Holland Roden]

Takes the shot off the bowling ball.

[Matthew Daddario]

And there's no cleaning process, so you got to wipe out your mouth in the mud. And then some lovely people told me that they got strep from it.

[Isabella]

Oh.

[Matthew Daddario]

And I was. I was. Yeah, I got. I got that piece of information.

[Katie Nolan]

So listen, after having taken the shot.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yes, of course it's not sanitary, but it's enthusiastic.

[Katie Nolan]

And frankly, that sums up the whole thing.

[Matthew Daddario]

That's exactly right.

[Katie Nolan]

Nobody went through a table either, though. I really thought I wanted to go.

[Holland Roden]

See the table people so bad. And they're in a different section of. From Hammer lot, which is the lot that has all the activities that I love that we just mentioned. And so, no, we didn't get to see the table people.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. But you guys did spend time at the actual stadium. You never know in movies what's magic and what's real.

[Holland Roden]

Everything was real in this film, so we spent a ton of time except the snow. Well, okay.

[Katie Nolan]

Was the snow real?

[Holland Roden]

It's always real on Hallmark. Is Santa Claus up in the North Pole?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

Let's go. Yeah, the snow is real.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

Don't ask questions. Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

That's kind of the point of an interview, I feel, but I'll try My best.

[Matthew Daddario]

Don't ask any tough questions.

[Katie Nolan]

I'll try my best.

[Holland Roden]

Don't ask questions.

[Matthew Daddario]

So, yes, everything, you know, we got to film at the stadium, the Bills were incredibly helpful with that. They open arms. I mean, they let us access to everything, and it was really great to get into the stadium. Look, even if you aren't a fan of the Bills going to professional football stadium, getting to stand on the field, that's. It's cool. It's fun. It's a grand thing. It's really awesome. And you get to feel that for a moment, and it's really nice.

[Holland Roden]

It's not lost on us that it's not normal that they were still part of their family. And. Yeah, I mean, anywhere from the media box to their suites to the owner's box to the field to their tunnel to their workout gym, we got to be a part of it all.

[Katie Nolan]

Wow.

[Holland Roden]

And, you know, obviously, the players, like, a handsome amount of players were in this film. Yeah, handsome amount of.

[Katie Nolan]

Incredibly handsome amount of players. An amount of handsome players. A lot of cameos. Did you guys have a favorite cameo of a person that you worked with that you liked picking a favorite child? I know, I know, and I'm really sorry. I thought Sean McDermott did a good job.

[Matthew Daddario]

Sean did a great job.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

Gotta give credit to Sean. I love Sean.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he did a good job. He looks like Bill Burr to me. Oh. So when I was watching it, my fiance was doing Bill Burr's voice, doing Sean McDermott's lines, which was like an added little layer. But, yeah, I thought he did a good job.

[Matthew Daddario]

That was a nice little. Little window into your life.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Thanks.

[Holland Roden]

That's cool.

[Katie Nolan]

I wanted to give that to you.

[Holland Roden]

I always say Dion Dawkins is a walking hug, because he is. And I'm gonna go ahead and do my collection of. I like Damar Hamlin. We sat in the makeup chair, and he. Well, I prepped him for this question. I definitely asked him if he had had any acting experience. And he pauses and he goes, yeah, fourth grade. Peter Pan. Okay, important. And so I love that out of him. Dwayne Carter. I had no idea he'd been playing that long in the NFL. So that was an interesting fact for me. I think Ray Davis and Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox gotten a little improv. I kept forgetting Ray Davis was a football player because he was so natural. So there was a smorgasbord of favorites.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah, there's a. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. I'm not Allowed to mention everybody, but we'll see Steve Tasker. So I got a text message from somebody when I was filming and he was like, like, he's down in Texas. This goes back to the Diaspora thing. He's in Texas. He loves the Bills. No idea why, but Steve Tasker, super important to him. And he was like, if you see Steve Tasker, you have to tell him. You have to show him this picture of me wearing his jersey. He's the most important person in the world to me. And I said, okay. In the world. Wow. Okay, you're getting married soon. And I go, actually, that's really convenient. Cause Steve Tasker was right next to me. So I immediately was like, oh, look at this selfie. Send. So that was a very cool, cool, cool moments.

[Katie Nolan]

So couldn't have worked out any more perfectly. I feel like that was actually. Were there any cameos that you filmed that they were so bad they got cut out?

[Matthew Daddario]

No, no.

[Holland Roden]

Thank God.

[Katie Nolan]

No. I was just picturing that. Like, you guys had Josh Allen, but he sucked so bad you had to cut him out of the movie.

[Holland Roden]

Is that the story we're going with?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. It was a guess I had.

[Matthew Daddario]

No, no.

[Katie Nolan]

Blame it on him. It wasn't on. It wasn't your fault. He was. He was a terrible actor and so.

[Holland Roden]

We had to cut him.

[Katie Nolan]

Do you feel like you are now Bill's fans after this experience?

[Holland Roden]

I'm not a football fan is what I say, but I'm absolutely hands down on the fans.

[Katie Nolan]

And we can't sell you on that. We can't change you on being a football fan.

[Holland Roden]

I'm a Bills fan. So epso facto, I'm going to be watching football when they play.

[Katie Nolan]

And you will. You'll watch, you'll keep up.

[Holland Roden]

I won't watch every game, but I do keep up with the scores. I did this season and I watched.

[Katie Nolan]

Several games this season and they're still going. And you still.

[Holland Roden]

And that's the trick.

[Katie Nolan]

It's still. The Patriots are in first place in the division.

[Holland Roden]

I don't know. I don't want to talk about that.

[Katie Nolan]

But I just had to mention.

[Holland Roden]

Are you against Pats fan?

[Katie Nolan]

I sure am. The enemy is in the room.

[Matthew Daddario]

I know.

[Katie Nolan]

It's just in and in charge. Isn't that crazy?

[Matthew Daddario]

Oh, God. But look, you know, as for casuals, right? It's very easy to get behind a team if the fan base is enthusiastic.

[Katie Nolan]

So true.

[Matthew Daddario]

You keep saying this and nice and I think that's what's really great. Like, look I love sports. I love watching the teams that I care about and teams that I hate. I don't like to watch.

[Katie Nolan]

That's fine.

[Matthew Daddario]

So we do. So when it comes to the Bills, it was very easy to fall in love with the team and support them this year because my team's not really doing that well, and I don't really like the decisions the ownership's making. Who's your team again? Huh?

[Katie Nolan]

Who's your team?

[Matthew Daddario]

I'm not telling you who my team is.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, why not?

[Matthew Daddario]

Because I'm not gonna say. Cause I just insulted them.

[Katie Nolan]

Who's your team?

[Matthew Daddario]

I'm from New York City, so I have a team.

[Katie Nolan]

Either one. It's bad.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah. It's not great. This year.

[Brady]

It's not great.

[Matthew Daddario]

So the Bills were an easy choice. It's in New York.

[Holland Roden]

I almost gave away your situation, so I'm glad I didn't. I'm so glad I still know what they did.

[Matthew Daddario]

They know what they've done.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, no.

[Katie Nolan]

You're a Giants fan.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah, I'm a Giants fan.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, that's interesting. Here's something I thought was really interesting for a casual. The first scene. So not you. You're not there.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah, he's not there.

[Katie Nolan]

You're on a date with somebody. You in the movie. Obviously a big Bills fan. Imagine if you weren't. It would be crazy. What would be the point? Huge Bills fan. You're on a date with a guy who could not care less. Less about the Bills in a. What appears to be a Bill's bar with Bill's paraphernalia everywhere and Bills on the screen. And he is, like, so shocked that you are paying more attention to the Bills game than what he's having to say. This was interesting to me because I'm a sports fan. Grew up a sports fan.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, wow.

[Katie Nolan]

Dated one non sports fan in my whole dating career. And it was quick. I was. At first I went, this could be interesting and cute. And then after a few weeks, I was like, I can't talk to you. We don't speak the same language. And so I was just interested in that scene and your perspective on it as the sports fan you are as a person, if you've ever been the guy in that situation or if you've got any other experience with it.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, I am the antithesis of a sports fan.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

And so I am. Yeah. I am the guy.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

In that scene. I've always said I can't date a sports fan.

[Katie Nolan]

Huh. Explain to me, to us.

[Holland Roden]

They Can't. I mean, I like socks. So football. Elsewhere in this, you know, this country, I tend to lean towards hockey a little bit.

[Isabella]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

I like this.

[Holland Roden]

I like. Well, I grew up in, like, Mike Madonna and Eddie Belfort for the Stars in Dallas, Texas. So that was, you know, what starts.

[Katie Nolan]

With hockey here, that's never.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, I am a hockey guy.

[Katie Nolan]

I love this.

[Holland Roden]

But I wouldn't call me a fan of it.

[Katie Nolan]

I would.

[Holland Roden]

I've maybe watched three games in a decade. Okay, so I'm not necessarily a fan, but I do like hockey. Like, if I had to go to a hockey game, I wouldn't be not looking forward to it.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Holland Roden]

I had to go to a baseball game recently, and I did it to support the, you know, the people I went with, but I was not looking forward to it.

[Katie Nolan]

No.

[Matthew Daddario]

Well, wait, hold on. Sports. Watching sports is not about the sports themselves. It's the accoutrement. It's the experience. It's the sport. Sure.

[Holland Roden]

But then you have to watch the.

[Matthew Daddario]

Sport, being with the people.

[Katie Nolan]

That's right.

[Holland Roden]

Then you gotta watch the culture.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the culture.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's the culture around it.

[Katie Nolan]

You do have to watch. You gotta watch a little bit.

[Holland Roden]

It's just so.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, but it's the baseball games. Just drinking beer outside in the summer. Awful.

[Holland Roden]

No, not for business. And then this person had the. They're like, I brought healthy. I'm an eater. And then they brought healthy items to try to. I was like, don't take this one thing that's mine. At this baseball game, I want my, you know, upside down hat drink, and I want my food. Don't touch it. And so I got happy because. Because, you know, I can look forward to the food.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, that's half the battle.

[Matthew Daddario]

That's what it is.

[Holland Roden]

But I could go and have that food without the sport and it's even better.

[Katie Nolan]

No, I'm pushing back. A hot dog without baseball is not better than a hot dog.

[Holland Roden]

I would rather get on a roller coaster than go watch the baseball. Anyway, so you're.

[Katie Nolan]

My point.

[Matthew Daddario]

Does my horse actively damage your enjoyment of eating food?

[Holland Roden]

Absolutely.

[Matthew Daddario]

I don't believe you because I know.

[Holland Roden]

You do it despite it. Yeah, I do it despite it because I like the people and I want to support and I have a good attitude about it. So then I just don't talk about the glass half empty part. So anyways, yeah, I'm not a sports fan and I've gone out of my way and thank God I live in Los Angeles, so it's pretty easy to date non sports fans.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, what a time to be a baseball fan. Los Angeles.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, no, I was cheering for the Blue Jays. Cause I was. I like Toronto people. Like, I work with a lot of Toronto people. I watch a lot of YouTube that.

[Matthew Daddario]

So you were cheering for the Blue Jays?

[Holland Roden]

Yes.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

So you were supporting a sports team?

[Holland Roden]

Oh, I didn't watch the game.

[Katie Nolan]

But I pushed you into being a.

[Holland Roden]

Sports come back anyway, so I am. I am the guy. Although this experience, I was a little nervous and I was like, oh, my gosh. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not. Just not my style. I'm a big sports fan. No. But I fell in love with the Bills and I really did. So, like, I'm a little bit more interested in football. Okay. I would say I'm closer to casual.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. With the Bills.

[Holland Roden]

The Bills, Absolutely.

[Katie Nolan]

That's all it takes.

[Holland Roden]

But no, I am. I have gone out of my way to date. Not. I like. I like being active. So I'm an outdoorsy sports girl for myself.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, of course. Right.

[Holland Roden]

And that's my entire life.

[Katie Nolan]

It's directly at odds.

[Holland Roden]

I'm a sailor. I'm a skier. I'm a really bad rock climber. I'm a mountaineer. You get sailing? Yeah, I scuba dive.

[Katie Nolan]

So your Saturdays and Sundays, you are out hiking and sailing.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, my gosh. I am either at the bottom of an ocean or at the top of a mountain. Yes, a thousand times. Me too.

[Katie Nolan]

But emotionally, with my sports team, mostly I do not go outside.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Holland Roden]

So you've.

[Katie Nolan]

You've never dated a diehard?

[Holland Roden]

Absolutely not.

[Katie Nolan]

Absolutely not is so mean. I'm sitting right here. My culture, and you're saying absolutely not.

[Holland Roden]

My entire family are massive sports fans. So I grew up with a tv. And there's a different sport on in each of our households. Each of our. In our household, each TV had a different sport on.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

So I could not wait.

[Katie Nolan]

You rebelled.

[Holland Roden]

Till. I just didn't have to have that as my life anymore. And my. My sister still works in compliance and nil and at LSU.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, wow.

[Holland Roden]

My brother is trying to make the PGA Tour right now or the AT&T Tour. So I come. And my other brother was a former pro rock climber. So I come from a very heavy sports family.

[Katie Nolan]

What?

[Matthew Daddario]

You know what? I guarantee to you that you're gonna find your perfect man. He's gonna be a massive sports fan, and you're falling into it, and you're get married and you're gonna have babies, and it's Gonna be great.

[Holland Roden]

It's just not a thing.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's gonna happen.

[Holland Roden]

It was like you. It was very quick.

[Katie Nolan]

You just knew right away that you were like, this is it. We can't wait. But you were raised in such a sporty.

[Holland Roden]

And I rarely use that word, but I did.

[Katie Nolan]

Can I just say, though, I appreciate your honesty. I think that's. I think that's good. I think that's useful. You're an actress, so you're a little bit of a liar.

[Holland Roden]

I'm a storyteller.

[Katie Nolan]

You don't like to be called liars. I also had a short. Dating an actor. I guess currently I'm engaged technically to an actor, but he's a stand up comedian first, so.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, that's different.

[Katie Nolan]

Different. It's a different kind of crazy.

[Matthew Daddario]

Different kind of crazy.

[Holland Roden]

You're very brave.

[Katie Nolan]

So tell us.

[Isabella]

I know, right?

[Holland Roden]

Very brave.

[Katie Nolan]

All the worst moments that we. In our relationship, I get to hear them on stage with hundreds of people. So, yeah, that's my favorite part. I think I'm interested to know then if you. If this movie made you feel like we are nuts. Sports fans, or if it made you go like, okay, sports fans are. I understand them a little bit.

[Holland Roden]

I was hoping I could be convincing as a sports fan.

[Katie Nolan]

You were.

[Holland Roden]

So that. Yeah, yeah, you did a good job. That was my goal.

[Katie Nolan]

I totally believed you.

[Holland Roden]

And I grew up around, you know, obviously a sports family and they're huge into sports. So I knew what that was like and I just had to emulate and be that character.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. Talk to me about ice bikes. I had never seen ice bikes before. They show these ice bikes on ice and I jokingly called them ice bikes. And then in the very next scene, you go, we're not getting on the ice bikes. What is an. Is that a Buffalo thing or. That's just a thing. I need to get out.

[Matthew Daddario]

I think that we both have the exact same reaction. We all have the same reaction. Ice bikes. It's like, this is not saying that in your head. You go, oh, bikes. Put them on ice. But they did in Buffalo and I guess other places that are, you know, cold all the time. I had never heard of it and let me tell you, we didn't. I had not heard of ice bikes. But, you know, it's one of those things that I'm pretty sure if you go to Sweden, I bet you can find some.

[Holland Roden]

No, I was in Sweden. All over Sweden and Norway.

[Katie Nolan]

She looked, she turned up every. And she was like, no, ice bikes here. No.

[Matthew Daddario]

So what I'LL say is. Is that we filmed in May and June and there's no ice. As much as it tries, it's not quite there. So we didn't film on the ice. We filmed on cement, but they didn't. You can't make the bikes. Not ice bikes. So we exerted an enormous amount of effort into just moving them a little bit into a sort of a pattern.

[Holland Roden]

To be fair, was broken. Like even more so than it should be.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

And so you could barely move yours.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah, but I was so strong that.

[Holland Roden]

I did it kinda.

[Matthew Daddario]

I did so good.

[Katie Nolan]

But this didn't make it in, did it? Because you only talk about the ice bikes, which I was gonna.

[Holland Roden]

And that's what makes it confusing.

[Katie Nolan]

You guys tried to ride it?

[Brady]

No, they did.

[Matthew Daddario]

They showed a shot of us.

[Katie Nolan]

They show people ice biking.

[Matthew Daddario]

No, they catch us in there.

[Holland Roden]

But it's such a wide.

[Katie Nolan]

When you couldn't tell. When you didn't live it. When you didn't live it.

[Holland Roden]

You don't realize. It was a whole portion that he struggled. And then they put it in part of the story script, but then all of that was cut.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, Gabe struggled.

[Matthew Daddario]

I didn't struggle.

[Katie Nolan]

I did struggle.

[Holland Roden]

Gabe struggled. So then the next scene, we are talking at length about the struggle.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Holland Roden]

But you guys didn't see the struggle.

[Katie Nolan]

That makes more sense now.

[Holland Roden]

I have buried that subconsciously because this is the first time we're talking about this in interviews. Because I was like, well, we. That doesn't make a lot of sense. Gotcha. Okay, Got it.

[Matthew Daddario]

I thought people saw us.

[Holland Roden]

It was interesting.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Holland Roden]

But that's the only part that really got truncated, I'm sure because of time. Yeah, I could only imagine. And. But maybe the close ups didn't sell with the CGI ice or something like that. I don't know. We didn't get to.

[Katie Nolan]

I thought ice bikes were being ridden. I didn't notice they were being ridden by you. It added. My only confusion was like, I've never heard of this technology in my life. Why aren't you ice biking more? Why can't I ice bike to work? City bike needs to get on an ice bike, like so I can. When it's slippery out, they should just pave the streets.

[Matthew Daddario]

They should just freeze the streets over.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Matthew Daddario]

I've been saying all of Fifth Avenue, all the way up and down.

[Katie Nolan]

It would be fun.

[Holland Roden]

I spike round.

[Katie Nolan]

It would be fun and it would be funny.

[Matthew Daddario]

It would be funny.

[Holland Roden]

Interesting. And I think also important that you pointed that out because we had not actually talked about that. We both suppressed it.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah. That was a suppressed moment.

[Holland Roden]

That was a suppressed moment.

[Katie Nolan]

How long is this for a movie like this? Cause Hallmark, I mean, Hallmark has movies on movies on movies. This time of year.

[Holland Roden]

We're American Bollywood.

[Katie Nolan]

I imagine that it was a. It's a quick filming and it was in. You said June, 17 days. 17 days.

[Holland Roden]

Shooting schedule.

[Katie Nolan]

It's like two weeks. Yeah. How long?

[Holland Roden]

It ends up being more like three and a half. Cause it's business days, but. Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

That's wild. That's like a very quick.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's very efficient turnaround time. Very efficient. Everyone has to be running, doing everything right all the time. And Hallmark knows what they're doing and then the editing process. Right. You gotta get. You know, I'm used to a year from the end of filming to when a movie's. You know, you can actually get it out. You gotta do all this stuff. There's a lot of work to get.

[Katie Nolan]

Done, fit in post.

[Matthew Daddario]

They know what they're doing. They get it done quick. And I've heard that it's sometimes even as quick as two months, which is just unbalanced. Ours ended up being six months, but I think they probably had it ready.

[Holland Roden]

Because the whole ice spike to Bobble.

[Katie Nolan]

It really delayed post production.

[Holland Roden]

And a lot of other Hallmark directors are really dialed in on their edits of what they want to get on camera.

[Katie Nolan]

And I think that's. I mean, it's like a science.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah. That's a big part of why Hallmarks is able to turn things around so fast is it's a certain style of directing where you just have to be incredibly organized with your shot list, which.

[Matthew Daddario]

Dustin was our director. Dustin was fantastic at that.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out to Dustin.

[Holland Roden]

A big shout out, Dustin.

[Katie Nolan]

Big shout out to Dustin.

[Holland Roden]

And big shout out to the. To the scissor jib. Because they built a certain kind of crane.

[Matthew Daddario]

Wait, don't reveal their technology.

[Holland Roden]

Oh, yeah, we can.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's special technology.

[Katie Nolan]

They made it proprietary.

[Holland Roden]

It was. It's. No, they're very proud of it. You're proud of. Was used in almost every swing up shot.

[Katie Nolan]

Kiss already. My God.

[Holland Roden]

Swing up shot. The scissor jib was used.

[Katie Nolan]

Scissor jib.

[Matthew Daddario]

Fantastic. That sounds five ranges of motion. Forward, back, sideways, turning. Oh, it was amazing. Incredible.

[Holland Roden]

It's basically creating a crane. But you could put it indoors, outdoors. It was really mobile. So instead of having to rent a certain truck with an arm on it, they were able to build this on a normal dolly. And that was pretty unique.

[Matthew Daddario]

So you have to understand it. Your brain cannot possibly.

[Katie Nolan]

Dang. I'm going to talk.

[Matthew Daddario]

This is inside baseball, beyond normal human minds.

[Katie Nolan]

Fascinating.

[Holland Roden]

It's like a. Yeah, it's little triangles that are. You know, sort of connects together like an old time. It's like connects. You know, the old Legos.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I was. I was once seven. It was a long time ago.

[Holland Roden]

It's kind of like.

[Katie Nolan]

But I think I can steal pieces.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Interesting. I. Here's the thing. I'm realizing I didn't tell anybody what the plot of this movie is. I'm afraid to get. I don't want to give anything away. There was a lot of. No spoilers. But if you had to give the. Our listeners a rundown of the plot of this film. Matt, you play Gabe.

[Holland Roden]

You are the.

[Katie Nolan]

The VP of Stadium Development. Now, do you have any understanding of what that job would entail? Because I found it interesting. The VP of ST Development, immediately recognized by players in the halls of the. Of the. Of the office.

[Matthew Daddario]

They. They're aware of this concept, completely aware of you.

[Katie Nolan]

And we're like, oh, it's Matt. The VP of Stadium.

[Matthew Daddario]

Just seemed to me when they told me that your VP of Stadium Development, it sounded fake because it's so perfectly descriptive. You know, people are like, oh, I'm actually the VP of Communications. And I. Okay, Communications. What's that? Vp? Is that pr? Are you pr? Communications. Marketing. How those. And then there's all kinds of. It gets confusing. Nobody likes to have a title that makes sense, right? VP of Stadium Development. I instantly know what it is. And guess what? It's a real job with a real person in charge of it.

[Holland Roden]

And he met him.

[Matthew Daddario]

I met him. John Polka.

[Katie Nolan]

Shout out John Polka.

[Matthew Daddario]

I hope. Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

They're building a real new stadium.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

Right across the street.

[Katie Nolan]

Right across the street. It's gonna be real nice.

[Matthew Daddario]

And John's the best. John's a better VP of Stadium Development than Gabe is. But Gabe does. Okay, Gabe's largely focused on, well, getting his friend, his best friend since childhood to fall in love with him. Or. No, really, he's focused on telling the mystery.

[Katie Nolan]

Just the telling.

[Matthew Daddario]

Just the telling. And what happens?

[Katie Nolan]

What struggle for him.

[Matthew Daddario]

Hard for him.

[Katie Nolan]

It's the telling. You guys are the two hots in your friend group. It's crazy in this movie that you aren't immediately like, we should date.

[Matthew Daddario]

Well, thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, you're welcome. Also, wisen up. That took so long, long for the V at VP level to go like.

[Matthew Daddario]

Hey, he can build stadiums. He can build Stadiums. It's hard. It's easy to dig a hole and fill full of rocks. It's not easy to tell someone how you feel when it could go wrong. I mean, the ramifications of if it goes wrong, your friend, your families are best friends.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Matthew Daddario]

And what happens if you then ruin everything.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure.

[Matthew Daddario]

And they can't even see each other anymore and then you're just thrown out to the curb. Now you're just in charge of a stadium. You don't have anything.

[Katie Nolan]

Morgan is not being let off the hook. You play Morgan, a pediatrician who no sense that this guy's in that this handsome man who's connected to the team she loves so much might be the one for her. Just no register the amount of times that he goes to maybe tell and that she's just like.

[Matthew Daddario]

But she's focused on saving Buddy. She's focused on saving children, on helping.

[Katie Nolan]

Everyone around her and True. Instead of herself.

[Holland Roden]

She also grew up with the guy. You know, so maybe that has something to do with it too, that, you know, I was on a show for a long time and I mean, I'm an actor. There's a lot of good looking people all around you.

[Katie Nolan]

True.

[Holland Roden]

And you don't necessarily, like, think of them that way. I don't know how to.

[Katie Nolan]

This is a hot person problem. This is.

[Holland Roden]

No, no. It's just.

[Katie Nolan]

This is not relatable.

[Holland Roden]

I don't know. No, I mean, you know, I was on Teen Wolf for nine years and everyone would say, like, it's a good looking cat.

[Katie Nolan]

Everyone on Teen Wolf is hot.

[Holland Roden]

I guess, I guess it was. But it was, it was interesting because they're like your brothers. You don't think of them that way. And so I guess the best throw I'll put into to, you know, prove this point for Morgan and let her off the hook is that when she grew up with him, she didn't think of him that way.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Matthew Daddario]

I mean, we went to the office where John Polka works. Everyone. There was a smoke show.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. All hotties that work at the Bills. You heard it here first. Bills only employ hotties. Hotties.

[Matthew Daddario]

The Bills organization is the highest level, top to bottom. Hottie smoke show all the way through.

[Katie Nolan]

C suite to entry level. Just gotta be hot. It's. I can't believe they get away with doing that. It's pretty crazy. I'm trying to think if there's any last sports questions I want out of.

[Holland Roden]

He's really good at it, the two. He can spar. I cannot spar.

[Matthew Daddario]

You don't want to go sports, though. This is for the casuals.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, but, like, you can dick. You can dip your toe in a little.

[Holland Roden]

I would say you're good, but not that good with the flavor.

[Katie Nolan]

Football. Well, I mean, I'll just ask. The basic question that anyone can understand is just how you're feeling about your quarterback situation.

[Matthew Daddario]

Oh, my.

[Holland Roden]

The qb. The qb. That's what he's calling it.

[Isabella]

Oh, my.

[Matthew Daddario]

Well, you know what? Actually, Winston. Winston was on the Browns a little bit. Look, the dude's been in the league for years.

[Katie Nolan]

He's a.

[Holland Roden]

He's.

[Matthew Daddario]

He's. Dude, he's a talent, man. He knows what he's doing. He's out. Look, he's almost got, what, 25,000 yards thrown?

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah, I gotta hear right of. In front, front of me.

[Matthew Daddario]

You don't have the stats in front of you. Kind of casual.

[Katie Nolan]

Jameis Winston.

[Matthew Daddario]

What are you talking about? What are you, first of all, Heisman Trophy winner.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, okay. Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

And wins the championship freshman year.

[Katie Nolan]

Even legally. Take an Uber. I don't think so.

[Matthew Daddario]

Here's the facts. The fact is that there are just some other things going wrong with the team right now, but things will be getting better soon. In the midterm.

[Katie Nolan]

This is the delusion.

[Holland Roden]

This is more dramatic than a Housewives episode.

[Matthew Daddario]

You're having me riled up. You're talking about sports are gonna get me riled up. And this is the problem. This is why we scare away casuals, isn't it?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, let's do this bit. I wanted to have you guys. I don't know if you've seen people do this online where they say, build your ideal something. You have $15 to spend. We have tiers and pricing for you. We're gonna pull up on a graphic. But the bit is that you're gonna build your ideal sports rom com for $15. With $15.

[Holland Roden]

What does that mean?

[Katie Nolan]

Well, we'll show you. Isabella's gonna pull up our gray graphic, which is going to make it full screen so it looks prettier. Build your own sports rom com for $15. So you have to pick two lead actors, a director, a sporting event, and a sports figure that shows up in a supporting role to just go through this graphic for our. Our audio listeners. Lead actor, $5. You'd get Meryl Streep or Daniel Day Lewis at the $4 level, Jennifer Lawrence, Kevin Cobb at the $3 level, Zendaya or Timothee Chalamet. At the $2 level, Drew Barrymore or Method Man. And at the $1 level, Kim Kardashian or Jimmy Fallon in the Director column. For $5, you'd get Nora Ephron, the late Nora Ephron of Sleepless in Seattle. You've got mail. At the $4 level, you'd get Rob Reiner of When Harry Met Sally and the American President fame. At the $3 level, Amy Heckerling, who's responsible for Clueless, and look who's talking. The $2 level, Ryan Coogler, Sinners and Creed. Now, that's not necessarily a rom com, but it's your movie and you can do anything you want. And then for a dollar, Sylvester Stallone could direct your rom com in the sporting event category. For $5, you'd get the Super bowl for $4, the Olympics for $3. The World Series for $2, WrestleMania. And for a dollar, underground kickboxing. And lastly, the sports figure in a supporting role for $5, LeBron James. For $4, Serena Williams. $3, Stephen A. Smith. $2, Peyton Manning. And for a dollar, Caitlin Clark. I don't know if you guys want to work as a team or if you prefer to build your own separate. I think you. Yeah, I love that. Who wants to go first?

[Matthew Daddario]

We can argue.

[Katie Nolan]

We can talk through it. Yeah, let's talk through it.

[Matthew Daddario]

I get two lead actors.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes, two lead actors. One and then one from each.

[Matthew Daddario]

I'm. I'm going with Drew Barrymore, obviously, at $2.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Matthew Daddario]

And also Method Man.

[Katie Nolan]

And Method.

[Matthew Daddario]

No question.

[Katie Nolan]

I would watch this.

[Holland Roden]

Rob Reiner, you're going, like, legitimate.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so you've got $4 for your actors.

[Matthew Daddario]

I'm at 8 bucks. You've got Rob Reiner at 8.

[Katie Nolan]

No, you're right.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay. Yeah, 8.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah, I'm gonna go with. See, this is where this is. I'm a little tough on this one here, but I gotta do Peyton Manning for the sports figure.

[Holland Roden]

So you're gonna have no location money left.

[Matthew Daddario]

Hold on, hold on.

[Katie Nolan]

So, wait, what are we at? You've got 10, right? No, 10. And now you have $5 left.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah. Cause I wanna do. I gotta do the World Series. Cause, I mean, obviously, World Series. Most romantic of the various championships. Peyton Manning's got to be in there. He's got to be. He's moved over to baseball. He's become a pitcher in his 40s. He's one of these guys who just. He unlocks something. A knuckleball. He's a perfect knuckleballer. He leads the New York Yankees to the World Series against anybody. I don't know what other trash they play against. And then Rob Reiner's totally going to own that. He knows all about it. Method Man, Drew Barrymore. Perfect. They fall in love. Home runs hit, bottom of the bottom of the ninth and the seventh game. Perfect. Yeah, I love it. And I have an accident.

[Katie Nolan]

Kind of sounds like Fever Pitch, but that was famously about that.

[Holland Roden]

Well, Drew Barrymore was in Fever Pitch with Jimmy Fallon.

[Matthew Daddario]

We're going to fix it with this movie by making about the Yankees so.

[Holland Roden]

That we don't have to be tainted.

[Matthew Daddario]

Fever Pitch thing.

[Holland Roden]

I was going to say you already have the plot of Fever Pitch, Drew Barrymore, and you'll be found at the World Series.

[Matthew Daddario]

Right. I got $2 over anyway.

[Katie Nolan]

I got $2 left over. And what are you going to do with that? Spend it on Kim Kardashian. You know what I mean?

[Holland Roden]

Oh, I'll bring in.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yeah, I'll bring in Kim.

[Holland Roden]

I love that Kim's at the $1 Florida.

[Katie Nolan]

Just. Have you seen the new show? It's a little rough.

[Holland Roden]

I will not be seeing. Actress wise, I will not be seeing the new show. But I can't.

[Katie Nolan]

I can't imagine you'd be able to see.

[Holland Roden]

I gotta say though, I do love Kim K as like a girlfriend figure in one's life like she is. I think she's so fun.

[Matthew Daddario]

She's got a show, a reality show.

[Katie Nolan]

But she also is acting. Fully acting as a lawyer.

[Holland Roden]

Yes, that too.

[Katie Nolan]

And it's. No.

[Holland Roden]

I'm gonna go more on the Kardashe side. I. I think it would be fun to be in that family personally.

[Katie Nolan]

You do?

[Holland Roden]

I do, yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Holland Roden]

I personally do.

[Katie Nolan]

High pressure.

[Matthew Daddario]

Let me see your situation. So what are you doing?

[Brady]

Tell me.

[Matthew Daddario]

I want to hear it.

[Katie Nolan]

Let's build it. Walk us through and go plot heavy if you'd like. Also, I have the works that the directors have worked on. If that's something that was confused by this whole thing.

[Holland Roden]

Cause I thought that everybody was up to act. So I was like, oh, I'm gonna put Amy Heckerling as an actor. Like I didn't fully understand.

[Matthew Daddario]

Which you could.

[Katie Nolan]

But she's in the direct, you know.

[Holland Roden]

In the direction I didn't understand. Now I'm seeing. I thought it was more of like a slide. Yeah. Now I'm seeing it's columns. Right, right, right.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I'll give that note to Brady.

[Holland Roden]

I'm gonna do a one man show of Kim Kardashian in the underground kickboxing arena.

[Katie Nolan]

Great. That's the cheap. This is the cheapest.

[Holland Roden]

Exactly. So I'm $2 and Pocket Fort.

[Katie Nolan]

No, 13.

[Holland Roden]

13. As a.

[Katie Nolan]

You don't need a director or a second actor at all.

[Holland Roden]

Not when Kim Kardashian's one man showing up. That's right.

[Katie Nolan]

And that's. It's actually best if she doesn't interact with anyone.

[Holland Roden]

And she's gonna do her workout at 5am at the kickbox.

[Matthew Daddario]

Who's the love in interest? Is it just.

[Holland Roden]

It's a one man show. It's the one man show.

[Katie Nolan]

He could really stir things up. Make Chalamet the love interest. Controversial because of her sister watching.

[Matthew Daddario]

She's his manager.

[Katie Nolan]

Great.

[Matthew Daddario]

He's the young athlete.

[Katie Nolan]

Right.

[Matthew Daddario]

He's coming up in the underground kickboxing. He's absolutely crushing. It's.

[Katie Nolan]

He's the body type. Right.

[Matthew Daddario]

And they fall in love on the right road. All these different towns they have to go to. They're not making enough money. And then bam. Underground kickboxing gets thrown into the public eye because of a scandal involving none other than.

[Holland Roden]

You're so above $15.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not even worth Caitlin Clark a dollar.

[Matthew Daddario]

What has Caitlin Clark been doing?

[Holland Roden]

I'm making a two buck truck movie.

[Matthew Daddario]

Something. I don't want to say the detail.

[Katie Nolan]

Your movie, respectfully, only has one person.

[Holland Roden]

In it and she's on season 15.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's not a rom com. You're creating a different story.

[Holland Roden]

She's worth a billion dollars on her one man.

[Matthew Daddario]

So she's doing so she has plenty of money to hire the best talent.

[Holland Roden]

And you could even hire Nora Ephron.

[Katie Nolan]

To come back and direct it. If you're spending a dollar on Kim Kardashian and you get Nora Ephron. See, I'd go, you gotta go Kevin Costner. I'd go Kevin Costner and Jennifer Lawrence.

[Holland Roden]

You're making like a legitimate situation.

[Chris]

He's.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, he is. And it's at the Super Bowl. Where am I at? So that's gonna be nine. Oh, geez. I'm getting close. That's $13. Right. That I've spent.

[Matthew Daddario]

So I have $2 left.

[Katie Nolan]

So it'd be. Have to be directed by.

[Brady]

It wouldn't even matter.

[Matthew Daddario]

And he'll do great.

[Katie Nolan]

And Caitlin Clark is the. Is the sports figure. So what it is is it's a cause. What's the age difference in Jennifer Lawrence and Kevin Costner? It's pretty big.

[Matthew Daddario]

Somewhere between 2 and 30.

[Holland Roden]

There's some daughter. There's some daughter business.

[Katie Nolan]

Maybe if you switch out Jennifer Lawrence for Zendaya and then it becomes the Bill Bell check story of old coach with way too young.

[Holland Roden]

This is a very legitimate pitch here.

[Katie Nolan]

Girl at the super bowl directed.

[Holland Roden]

I'm just raking in money in the.

[Katie Nolan]

Reality space with Caitlin Clark. Your movie breaks a bit. It completely. I had. We had to make a fake one because I can't. We can't. If you have 15 to spend, you have to spend.

[Holland Roden]

I'm pocketing 13. That's. I'm a smart producer.

[Katie Nolan]

Did they not pay you to make this movie?

[Holland Roden]

Well, it was only 15. They did not.

[Matthew Daddario]

You're a good hatchet man. Here we go. I think, honestly, I'm. Now this is actually fun. I could spend a lot of time doing this. I know we don't have all the time in the entire world.

[Katie Nolan]

We've got one another, but I would.

[Matthew Daddario]

Say that combining Kim Kardashian with Daniel Day Lewis is truly something special.

[Katie Nolan]

Just to see what happens when a black hole meets like. You know what I mean? Like an unstoppable force in immovable talents in different areas.

[Matthew Daddario]

Yes. Unstoppable force, immovable objects. See what happens. Maybe they kind of meet down in the middle somewhere. We end up with a kind of Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya kind of level. Right. Obviously, the networks right now would probably want those two. That would probably be the one that we do.

[Holland Roden]

I think Tim and Tate would want to do the WrestleMania for sure.

[Matthew Daddario]

And then you could destroy it. Everything else could just be whatever. Because if you have Daniel Day Lewis starring across Kim Kardashian, I guarantee to you everyone has seen that film because they're wondering how.

[Katie Nolan]

How. How does he even figure out how does it work? What is the. Do they meet in the middle? Do they meet? Does he does 75? She does 25.

[Matthew Daddario]

Absolutely.

[Holland Roden]

Even though most of my money is not on screen, I think I was very efficient.

[Katie Nolan]

I think so, too. Why is Pete Manning $2 if she was at a part of the event?

[Holland Roden]

Do you know the amount of t would sell?

[Katie Nolan]

I know. And you're not a sports person, but a front office would love you. They would love a person who goes, I can make some. You giving me $15?

[Holland Roden]

I can get it done with two. No, I mean, I like. Well, and as a truly good producer, you want your money on screen, but I'm in the reality space of this fictitious situation. I'm going to. Yeah, I'm going that route.

[Matthew Daddario]

I want to talk. I'm offended by the pricing.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, let's talk about it.

[Matthew Daddario]

Peyton Manning, $2.

[Holland Roden]

That's true.

[Matthew Daddario]

Stephen at 3. No offense to you, Stephen. I know, I know. No, but people would pay negative dollars. Yeah, he'd have to pay.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Matthew Daddario]

He's a troublemaker. He likes to create trouble.

[Katie Nolan]

Sure. So does Peyton.

[Matthew Daddario]

Peyton creates zero trouble.

[Katie Nolan]

No, he does kind of. He's like a sports talking head, and he never shuts up his business to aggravate him. He's big at. You know. If you've ever seen a clip of a person on sports TV yelling, really animated, it's him. Him. Oh, it's not him. It's.

[Holland Roden]

He has a nit. You know?

[Katie Nolan]

He sure does. He's also on everything all the time. Anytime he's.

[Holland Roden]

He's multiplicity.

[Katie Nolan]

He's on TV at any given time for a lot of money.

[Matthew Daddario]

This was very fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I feel like we made a really good movie. Not maybe here, but here. The movie was very fun to watch. I like sports. Look, this is on the heels of last year. They did the Chief's Love Story, and this was the Bill's love Story. Really fun. Are there plans to keep going? Does anyone know if. Are you allowed to say, are they giving us a new team every year? Are we getting a new Hallmark? That seems to be the pattern.

[Holland Roden]

But we shall see.

[Matthew Daddario]

We'll see. But I would certainly hope so. And I know a lot of people would hope so.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, but not different casts. I like you guys.

[Matthew Daddario]

Thanks. Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

The thing about a Hallmark movie is you only really ever get to watch a kiss one time and then they go, and the rest happens later.

[Matthew Daddario]

I will say there is something really smart about bringing back the same actors again and again. And I think there's something about it that really could work.

[Katie Nolan]

I know.

[Matthew Daddario]

Change it up a little.

[Holland Roden]

Pitch. We're not gonna win.

[Katie Nolan]

What if, like, the fifth holiday touchdown movie is about the Patriots? No, to somebody that the Bills could face in the Super Bowl. So I don't know. The Patriots, the 49ers. And then you. And then you have them. It's. The movie is focused on the Niners, but then they go to the super bowl and play against the Bills. And there you two are at the. This is just ideas, you guys.

[Matthew Daddario]

But then we fall in love with the 49. Who.

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. I think we just see you guys again. We're just back in the story, still trying to tell each other that you might maybe like each other, even though everyone around you knows, welcome to Hallmark. That's my pitch.

[Matthew Daddario]

It's just great.

[Katie Nolan]

It's not a bad pitch.

[Matthew Daddario]

Hallmark loves it.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you guys for Coming holiday Touchdown. A Bill's Love story Saturday, November 22nd. That will have happened by the time you're listening to this. You can find it on the Hallmark Channel or on Halloween. Hallmark plus. This has been very fun. Holland and Matt, thanks for being here.

[Brady]

Thank you.

[Matthew Daddario]

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[Isabella]

Ooh, what are the. I think Eagles could be fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

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[Katie Nolan]

What? Oh, it's like Hard Knocks, but they dip into college way before they needed to.

[Brady]

And they like when you bring your new boyfriend home for Thanksgiving for the first time.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah. I mean, that was what I was going for with my Kevin Costner and Zendaya. I was basically trying to say, like, let's do this thing, you know, let's see how this really goes. Chris, what do you. What football team you think they should do next for. For Hallmark?

[Chris]

Well, it's got to be a team in the Northeast. I feel like, because you wanted to have that snow, you wanted to have that vibe. You want to have that feel.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Very done. The Bills. I like your idea about the Pats. I like Isabella's idea about the Eagles. What are the North Northeast teams? Do we have?

[Isabella]

Oh, Chicago could be fun.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, yeah. Chicago could be really fun.

[Chris]

That's actually an interesting one.

[Katie Nolan]

Why is that?

[Chris]

Pretty city.

[Isabella]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Really, really good sports town.

[Isabella]

Very cold.

[Katie Nolan]

Really cold this time of year. Yeah. Got a lot of a rich, robust history. Lot of. I could picture the cameos. They're already coming to mind.

[Holland Roden]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

There's a lot you could do in Chicago.

[Chris]

Do cross sport cameos, too. That'd be fun.

[Katie Nolan]

I think they should do a Jets one. And since they seem to want to put them out around Thanksgiving in order to be prepared for Christmas, then they could address the butt fumble. I think that would be because we all remember that happened on Thanksgiving.

[Brady]

I was going with the Steelers holiday touchdown.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Brady]

Because.

[Katie Nolan]

Sorry, Brady. Keep going. I was just telling Isabella. She was. I like to encourage her when she remembers a sports thing.

[Brady]

Oh.

[Katie Nolan]

So she doesn't feel discouraged. But you keep going.

[Brady]

I was going to go with a Steelers holiday touchdown. A Steelers love story. And just on the fact that you have to go, then go to Christmas dinner and sit across from Aaron Rodgers and have a conversation with him about politics while pretending to eat.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

This would be high drama.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes.

[Brady]

Horror movie, even.

[Chris]

You get a lot of people in that movie. Absolutely. Be a scene of people wearing Roethlisberger jerseys in church.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Seen a lot of that. All right, well, the football games that are happening today haven't happened here as we're recording. They've probably already happened wherever someone is listening. But it feels wrong to put out a Thanksgiving sports podcast episode without addressing that the games happened. So what we usually do in situations like this is say what we. Who we think won already in the game. It happened. We could do that again. Packers are playing the Lions at 1 o'. Clock. Why is that game at 1 o'? Clock? I'd rather watch that than any of the other. What do we think happened happened there? Who won? Isabella.

[Isabella]

Lions.

[Katie Nolan]

That's great. And then Chiefs, Cowboys is 4:30 Isabella. Who won?

[Isabella]

I feel like because of all of your input guys, I don't like either of these teams.

[Katie Nolan]

That's exactly right. She's right. She's not wrong.

[Isabella]

You know what? I'm down for making the Chiefs not succeed. So let's do Cowboys instead.

[Brady]

Okay.

[Katie Nolan]

The Cowboys win at home. Jerry Jones is glory holing about it.

[Isabella]

Oh, for sure.

[Katie Nolan]

And then Bengals at Ravens at 8:20 Eastern. Who wins? Isabella.

[Isabella]

Let's do Bengals.

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, let's do Bengals. That would be something. That would be something. And, and, and I hope all.

[Isabella]

Are they doing like, doing okay?

[Katie Nolan]

They're doing okay, but the Ravens are doing much better now because Lamar is back and they need to win. They had a.

[Isabella]

They were still, still doing booty, abysmal.

[Katie Nolan]

Booty start to their season.

[Brady]

Oh, that's Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore. Oh, this is an emotional one.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Well, although that is also well past Joe flacco's bedtime.

[Katie Nolan]

So 8:20. He's. He ate dinner four hours per, so he's gonna be hungry again by the time that game comes around. He got the. The special half off. All right, That's a Thanksgiving podcast. I feel bad that it's. We're not here with you on the actual day, but at the same time, you know, I gotta make that corn souffle and it's really labor intensive. There's a lot of steps. I think I saw about four. So I, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be stacked doing that and then I gotta wash that dish. And so I'm kind of sort of blocked off for the whole day. But we wanted to make sure that you guys got a the of part podcast. So I hope that wherever you are, you're eating delicious food or at least pretending to love the food that was put in front of you. Cuz that's what we all got to do on Thanksgiving. You got to go and rub your belly. Even if you're like, what is in this stuffing? I don't think this is correct. Something here is wrong and I don't like it. You don't have to clean your plate of it, but you do have to act like you loved it. And I hope you're having a lovely time with your family and that none of the stuff you didn't want to talk about about gets brought up and that nobody pressures you about when are you getting married or when are you having a baby or when are you guys. I hope everybody's just nice. These are all high hopes. You know what I mean? I don't, I don't know that we can check all these boxes, but I hope you're having an amazing day and that this podcast was able to add to that even a little bit. I'll tell you what, we are so thankful for you. I'm going to speak for all of the casualties here when I say the thing we are most thankful for this year is what a fantastic audience we we have. How interactive you guys are, the emails that you send us, the voicemails that you leave. We love you so much. We really do mean it. We are thankful for you and for sports and athletes and et cetera. And, and we will see you back here on Tuesday for a regular old podcast. We love you. We mean it. Happy Thanksgiving. Introducing Fidelity Trader plus with customizable tools.

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