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Casuals with Katie Nolan
The Masters, Coachella, and Pegging Goon Sacks
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Hello! It's the podcast that would like to enjoy a succulent Chinese meal in peace. Today, Katie and the Casualties celebrate national anthem whistlers and Arizona Iced Tea's entrance into the hard seltzer game, before breaking down Rory McIlroy's Masters win, the thrill of a golf near-collapse, Sergio Garcia's destroyed driver, Mark Calcavecchia's early exit, Robert McIntyre's flightless bird, Bryson DeChambeau's 3D-printed iron, Li Haotong fighting through food poisoning Friday only to post a TEN on Sunday, the rules at Augusta, how Rory can follow up on the wine bill at his Champions Dinner, and whether Australian Drinking Games should have a place at The Masters. Or on Earth. Then, Katie and the team get into Justin Bieber's set at Coachella and the fine line between creative genius and laziness, Sabrina Carpenter's potential insensitivity, and the cost of it all, the end of the NBA season, the play-in matchups, and whether we just watched the worst game the league has ever see...
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Hey, Brady and Chris. Oh, I don't know. Isabella's off. She's. She'll be back later in the week. Yeah.
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I don't know what to do with my life.
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I know. Well, you're gonna have to do the cold open. Did you see that the Orioles had a guy come in Chris Ullman for a ball game and whistle the national anthem?
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I did. This is in my wheelhouse. All right, I got this.
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I was hoping one of you could maybe give it a swing.
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This is all you, Brady.
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Do you. Okay. All right. Cause he's a star spangled. All right. I will take this for America.
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We do it different in Australia. The words are different. Here we go.
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Okay. Okay.
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Not bad, not bad. Fast forward. Can you go to the Rockets part? Hit me with the Rockets.
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Okay. Notes a lie.
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That's where it all falls apart. This episode is presented by gmc. We are professional grade. Hello. Hi and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast that doesn't care what you know. It's not about that. It's about vibes. It's mostly vibes. I'm Katie Nolan, host of this thing. Here to get you caught up on everything going on in sports. Joined today by mostly my casualties. But we are missing Isabella. As we said before, she is off on vacation, as is her right. She's going to that Mets Dodgers game tonight, I think Monday night. And then she should be back later in the week. Unless she just fully converts to a Dodgers fan, at which point I have failed us as a podcast. But we are joined by our master editor, Chris.
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What's up?
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And we've got Bubba Bubba Brady, Whistler extraordinaire.
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I know. New skill, new skill.
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I wouldn't know if I'd call it a skill. I don't know if the skill I knew I had when we got to the. What is that? The bridge. The rockets. The, the bridge. It just sounded like loud breathing. I don't know that you even had any. It was like, so. But anyway, I loved it. So I gotta tell you how to reach us, right? Casuals with Katie Nolan. Gmail.com is our email. 646-801-0043 if you want to leave us a voicemail on IG and tick tock, we are at casual podcast coming up on the show today. I gotta say up front, I know over the weekend there was a lot of moving around of talent in the WNBA because of the free agency. And then by the time you're listening to this, the WNBA draft has taken place. But as you know, we record this on Mondays, so it has not happened here yet. For that reason, we are going to hold off discussing the WNBA until our second episode of the week. So most of that is going to be in our next show. We're still trying to get somebody at the draft to come be a guest that day. So fingers crossed. But we will cover all the WNBA stuff in our second episode this week. Today we're gonna get to baseball players maybe not knowing the rules of baseball, which is a tough look. A Coachella headliner getting $10 million to kind of scroll YouTube and then a candidate for the worst NBA game ever played. A lot of stuff to get to, but first, starting here at the top, we're going to discuss the Masters because the Masters were over the weekend, an exciting time in the world of golf. Everybody loves the Masters. A tradition unlike any other. I watched a bunch mostly Sunday. I didn't watch earlier rounds of the Masters. I'll admit.
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Saturday was the action.
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Yeah, I watched Saturday was where it
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went from, you know, the highs. So, like, that's when it really got good. And that's also when I was sitting there half drunk watching from, from a water park at a kid's birthday party.
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Oh, my God, they have TVs or you were on your phone.
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No, they have TVs. We, we had the cabana with like six dudes who looked exactly like me crowded around a couch sipping twisted teas and watching round three of the Masters.
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While the kids did are what's up when it comes to The Masters. That's a good Masters drink.
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I mean, it felt like the alcoholic version of the Arnold Palmer was absolutely necessary.
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And they do make, I believe, Arnold Palmer twisted teas. Like they make the.
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I think. Oh, yeah, no, it's the half and half.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I thought you meant like the actual brand, because I know that Arizona iced tea got into the Arnold got into the hard seltzer game. Yeah.
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Oh, did they?
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Oh, yeah.
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Jesus.
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Oh, you can get the, like the green tea. Like the alcoholic Arizona green tea.
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I didn't know that.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's damn good by a pool.
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I feel like my next weekend just changed, huh? Interesting. Let's talk about the actual golf, though. Let's start there. Rory McElroy bounced back from squandering a six stroke lead on Saturday to become the fourth man to ever win the Masters in back to back years. He won it last year and he won it again this year. He led the tournament by six shots through Friday. That was a Master's record after two rounds. But then he shot one over par on Saturday, briefly fell to second place, entered Sunday tied for the lead, and then he shot one under on Sunday to beat Scotty Scheffler by one stroke. It got a little interesting. It, like, it looked like it was going to get a little interesting and then it like didn't. And then it did. And on the last hole, he was like, he shot into the woods and they were like, oh, he's going to need to use all of his strokes. And he did. But he got it and he. And he won. So. So, like, I. It wasn't interesting enough for me. I unfortunately really prefer when a golfer can just melt down. I really like when a guy's got the lead and then he just absolutely eats it. That's what I'm rooting for. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with. I got nothing against these golfers. I barely know these people. Okay. I get some of them confused. At one point, I was doing. I was accidentally. Dan and I were thinking we were talking to each other about the same guy. I was talking about Scotty Scheffler and he was talking about. About Xander Shoffley. And we were getting. We were like missing each other in translation. We were saying, yes, Chef, but we were saying it about two different people. And so it got a little. So I'm not judging them. I'm not rooting for their downfall on a personal level. It's just for the viewing of it. I like it to be like this next putt. If he doesn't make this. It all goes, we gotta go to a playoff. And you're like, what is happening? And that did. I didn't get any of that. So. Well, it's like.
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That's the most appealing thing about major golf is that you watch somebody go through it on tv. Like, you. They have nowhere to go. They're just. It's their performance. They're in their own head, and they have to bounce back. They can't call timeout. They can't go off camera at all. They are so exposed and so visible through the entire tournament. And when Rory was dropping shots on Saturday, when he went from, you know, record setting to completely human, you had to just watch him do it and hope that his tailspin wasn't getting, you know, going so far that he was going to lose the lead by Sunday. And then he. You had to watch him pull out of it. Like, watch him, you know, have to lock in, have to focus. And, you know, like, you say when guys are. Like, when Jordan Spieth is having his Masters meltdown or. Or from years ago, or when, like, John Vandeville, the British Open many years ago, like, he's blowing a lead and hitting it into the water and having to roll up his. His. His pant legs and hit it out of a creek. Like, you have to watch that in real time. Watch these guys struggle with no. No where to hide. Like, they have to try to dig out of it. And they're almost did.
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They're also playing a sport that most of the patrons I know, we can't call them fans. The patrons that are there, like, I assume most of them love to play golf, so it's like a sport that they also play. Now, obviously you play it at a different level, but everyone can relate that has golfed to the feeling of trying to putt. And the ball goes just around the cup and does not go into the hole. Like, that's not a. I wonder how that feels. Everybody knows what that feels like. And so it's sort of fascinating to watch on that front, which is why it was. Sergio Garcia was one of the tougher masters. He had a tough day, and I found that kind of interesting to watch. He's the 2017 champion and was reportedly given a code of conduct warning after damaging the tee box on the second hole and then later snapping his driver following another poor shot, which, because he did it himself out of frustration, he then had to play without a driver, which is kind of nuts because it's the first club you use that gives you distance and this happened again at the second hole. So he had.
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Tiger woods has been operating without a driver for a long time.
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The Doom cha. It's a DWI joke. Yeah. He finished 52nd. Sergio Garcia, not Tiger. He wasn't there. So not great for Sergio Garcia. Not a great Masters. Also for Mark Calcavecchia, he wasn't playing. But he's the 1989 British Open champion and he was removed from the grounds on Thursday, on Tuesday, before even anything happened. Yeah, because he violated the no phones policy, which I. If you had asked me on a year when I saw a lot of people complaining about why are we sending influencers to the Masters? If you had said, who's going to get sent home for violating their cell phone policy, I would not have guessed it was the 1989 British Open champion. I would have been like, it was one of the. It was an influencer. Right. Who was filming themselves. But no, I bet Mark was just trying to make a phone call on his phone and he got removed. Also. Also got in trouble. Robert McIntyre. This is Back to actual golfers. He got reprimanded by Masters officials as he was seen flipping the bird at the water and, and expressing bad language. After a poor shot on Thursday, he missed the cut at 7 over. But he really let them know how that made him feel. And I think that's fair.
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I think you've never told a lake to go fuck it.
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I think you should be allowed to flip off inanimate objects. I mean, it's better than like, I mean, I know it says he expressing. What was the way that it was phrased? Expressing bad language. I know he also said stuff, but in general I feel like you should be able to be like, I hate you with just like a finger and then move on. It's like, what do you want me to do? Just not hate that water. It's acting like a real pain in my ass. I have to let it know or else I'm gonna snap my body.
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In gentlemanly fashion.
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Yes. And then, I mean, we're talking about people who had bad Masters. Hao Tung Li. Okay, so he's a 30 year old Chinese golfer. He was competing in his third Masters. He had a tough day. He had a couple tough days. Let's start with the last tough day, which was Sunday. He was sitting at seven under on Sunday entering the 12th hole and then shot a triple bogey and then a quintuple bogey. So five over par. It was 10 strokes in back to back holes to go one over and he finished 38th. Now, important detail, I think of this. First of all, I know it was really hard to watch that 10. It was a brutal. It was like me in a round of Wii Golf where I had a huge lead, and now for some reason, I tried to do a trick shot to one of the side islands, and I overestimated it, and now I'm stuck. I just keep hitting it into the side of the mountain, and it's falling into the water, and I'm melting down. And Dan's mom is really enjoying it, and I'm just like, I hate this game. So What? Watching his 10, his second shot definitely
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did the whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop sound crazy.
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I really struck a nerve.
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It was brutal. Yeah, we play, we golf every Christmas. It's like the. It's what we do. I will say I set the record or maybe tied. I think Dan held the record at like 8 under, maybe 9 under, and I tied it. So I. I had. I've had a good round, but usually I have a good round, and then I overthink so much that I end up finishing, like, eight over.
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So interesting. I would have thought of that stage. The pressure's off. You've already proved it. You don't have to feel no, because
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Dan's mom will go, like, don't blow it. And then my brain goes, well, you're gonna. So. And then I do. But let's talk about what happened to how Tong Lee on Thursday. So overnight on Thursday and into the morning of his second round on Friday, he had food poisoning. He ate a lobster roll and a poke bowl. Now, I don't expect everyone to know everything about places that they travel to, right? But someone has to let you know you're in Georgia. You don't need to get a lobster roll and a poke bowl. You've got to maybe pick one. And if that, I would avoid. I don't go to Atlanta or Augusta for this seafood necessarily.
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Lemon pepper wings, right?
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Yeah. So he said. Went to the toilet last night a lot of times. This was on Friday. This morning when I got to the golf course, I was still feeling really bad and kind of like living in the toilet. He said, no energy, fuzzy. Want to throw up. He shot a 69 on Saturday. And then what surprised me the most? Sunday. All white.
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The confidence.
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All white. You just told us that you've been living in the toilet from bad seafood, and yet here you are, all white.
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This man has no fear.
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None.
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Incredible.
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And then it didn't again. It didn't really pay off. It didn't help. What's this about Kevin Hart? He met Kevin Hart at the par 3 contest.
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Called it the best day of my life so far.
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And that's. He's 30, so that's like a lot of days of your life.
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Yeah.
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And the best part, he did say
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how Tong Lee did credit Kevin Hart. That's how he learned English.
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Oh, shoot. What do you mean by that?
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He told the Smiley show when he was on. He said, I learned English. I picked it up from watching Kevin Hart movies. You find one thing that, like, it's easier. It's easier to learn when you're, like, following one person's speech patterns.
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Yeah.
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He watched Kevin Hart movies.
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Interesting. I feel like I've heard people say that about, like, friends or a show that has a bunch of episodes, but to just do Kevin Hart movies, it feels like, you know, you're making it hard on yourself to do, you know, if you want to sprinkle in, like, a good movie every now and then. You know what I mean? I don't know. That's not a controversial opinion, is it? I don't.
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I don't know.
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Kevin Hart film, movie.
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I've seen many, to be honest with you.
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And Secret Life of Pets.
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Does that count?
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RIP Ricky.
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I liked him on Undeclared. Undeclared, the TV series from 2000. Donald Log, the one with Jay Barel and Seth Rogen. And early on, it was sort of like the spiritual sequel to Freaks and Geeks. There's an episode with Kevin Hart.
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Yes. Interesting. Interesting.
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That was. That was where he peaked in my brain, because I love Underclid.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. All right, so that's everybody who had a Bad masters. And sorry to them. I didn't even mention what was up with Bryson. Bryson DeChambeau. 3D printing a club. I didn't know we were. The tech was there yet.
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Might not be.
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Oh, that's right.
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He did, like, very publicly, 3D print his five iron. Made a big deal about it.
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Designed it himself, printed it, said it took, like, eight hours to make and
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then missed the cut.
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Yeah.
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Triple bogey.
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Did he use it? He didn't use it.
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I don't think he used it. He hit a couple times, but it's. It's not your most common club in the bag.
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Right. But it's also not why he, like, didn't make the cut. It was, like, blameable on the. It didn't just turn into dust when he tried to use it the first time, which I actually think would Be pretty funny.
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The whole thing exploded. Like a gender reveal.
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Yeah.
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So it just feels like it was for headlines maybe to be the first guy to do that.
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Weird time to roll that out though, I would say.
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Yeah. It's just the Masters. I'm trying a new thing. I'm going to make my own club. I made it out of clay and I baked it last night. I'm going to use this. Everybody cool with that? We had talked a lot about Rory's dinner that he had to plan going into this. I heard we got an email about how the price tag's even crazier than we thought. Chris, do you have that?
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Yeah. So this email's from Michael, who said, I wanted to follow up on the Champions Dinner. You chatted about last week and Rory having to cover the $318 a plate dinner for 34 people. I just saw this article online and that $10,812 for the food was nothing compared to the wine bill, which was $65,000. Throwing some gratuity tax and whatever they charged to have their staff cater the dinner. Rory easily spent over 100 grand, likely making it the most expensive, expensive Champions dinner in the Masters history. Luckily, his prize money for winning this year and last year totals $9 million. But now he has to. Yeah, but now he has to one up himself since he'll be hosting the dinner again in 2027. Good point, Michael.
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That would be enough to get me not to win. That's why I wouldn't win the Masters back to back. It's not because I the right idea. Don't have this skill. It's because it would be really hard to plan a big meal for important people that many times in a row because he already. It's. It feels like he called all the stops. He had like four different appetizers you could have. He had like all these. He sort of put it all out there. Now you win it again. It's like we can't run the same dinner back. And you certainly can't take a cheap step backwards. You've gotta talk what you did last on them, right?
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So like, I already fed you guys once. You want a better meal? Win the Masters.
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Beat me.
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Yeah, getting grilled cheese.
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As a non wine drinker, this would piss me off to no end because it'd be like, I'm giving you the most expensive per plate meal and then you assholes are going to spend $65,000. I don't even understand, like my idiot brain. Maybe I sound like a poor, but like how do 34 people drink $65,000 worth of wine?
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Like, thousands of dollars per bottle. They're probably, like, really nice bottles because the food's really nice. You don't want to have shitty wine. But I bet they're busting out bottles of wine that, like, people save up for, like, their biggest day of their life. You know, those types of bottles. You don't drink wine at all.
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Not really.
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Not even at a fancy dinner.
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I mean, I will. It's not like I dislike it, but, like, the best wine I've ever had tastes very similar to the worst wine I've ever had.
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I think there's a thing with, like, wine pricing where, like, the difference between a $12 bottle and a $60 bottle is not worth that difference in price. Whereas. But then these bottles that they're definitely drinking, there is a noticeable difference.
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Oh, they're in bottles, not boxes. Okay, that's.
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Yeah, that's where you start one thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they were slapping the bag at the masters dinner. You know, I. I withhold my. Right. I can still be corrected, but I don't think it was franzia getting passed around the master's dinner.
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C
They weren't playing go of fortune.
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That's what's the. And then what's that?
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All right, we're going to hear. This is where Chris explains what gooner fortune is.
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It's got to be goon of fortune. There's no chance, and I would hope this was maybe named before goon came to be what it is now, which is jerking off, as far as I know.
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Then, yes.
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Great. So then in Australia. Good. Good thing you do, so you don't accidentally find yourself in a tough situation.
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B
We're rooting for you, Chris.
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Goon of solitude.
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What is it going of fortune, Right. Rotisserie clotheslines that you have in certain backyards where they spin around.
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I don't think I've ever called them rotisserie, but I do know what you're talking about.
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Also, we're not going to ped clothes to them. We're already way too far down the road. Clearly.
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C
I'm hungry and thinking of chicken rotary clotheslines, right? That you peg your clothes onto.
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Yeah, Peg them right on there.
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C
You peg. You peg a bag of goon.
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He doesn't notice. It doesn't bother him. Brady. I don't think. I don't think he notices.
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C
Everyone gets in a circle, okay? You spin it around, and whoever the goon bag lands on, you have to drink from it.
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Yeah, that I actually. I like the concept of the game. It's just the landmines are stepping on and getting us there that are making it hard for our child. Brady, to.
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C
It might have been easy to explain five years ago.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before the kids got in there and mucked up the language. I would play that. It's like, slap the bag. Never made any sense to me. It was like, what? And then, what's the point? I think it was just to have something to do. I don't think there was any. There was no rules. There was no way to lose. Have I mentioned already that I love that they wouldn't let anybody have their phones at Augusta? That influencers. I thought influencers would be the issue, but it. But they weren't. Did you see egg salad guy getting a lot of hate. What happened with egg salad guy on the 16th hole?
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Every round there was one guy in the background of the tee box that had a hat that just read Egg salad in big letters. And every day it was a different color. He had a full set of egg salad hats made.
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That wasn't official merch.
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B
No, not official merch. Even though, like, the egg salad thing is that at Augusta you can get a $50, $50 egg salad sandwich, which
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is exactly how much egg salad should always be. I don't know why anyone would charge more than that for eggs and mayo.
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No, that doesn't make it not delicious.
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A
Yeah, I guess like the Costco hot dog food. Please don't ever go above that.
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But the guy's just sitting in the background of the 16th tee. Like it's. It's a lot of. Look at me. It's big Marlin's man energy, but he's there. And the old. You know, the old traditional golf crowd, they're. They were. They're not into it. They're not into look at Me Culture branded. Because, like, 80% of the crowd was wearing the same Masters merch.
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Yeah.
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Left and right. But he was not beloved, and I get the feeling he will be back. Also.
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Is he, like, somebody nowadays? You gotta go. Does he have a Twitch stream that he was trying to promote with Twitch tv? Egg salad. Like, is there a link?
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B
I search at egg salad hat.
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I mean, whatever. It's just a hat. It doesn't. I wouldn't wear it, but I also don't care to. It doesn't bother me. I saw a lot of people. My. This was the first time my algorithm started giving me tick, like, master stuff. Tick tock Masters mashup. This weekend was all Coachella Masters. Coachella Masters. It was really interesting to watch the way people reacted to the differences in, like, get ready with me for day two of the Masters or get ready with me for day two of Coachella. Because the Coachella outfits are amazing. Incredible. I don't know if you guys know. I really wish Isabella was here right now just mainly for this. Did you guys have any interaction at all with Coachella? Chris, you're not even on social media, so I don't know why I'm asking you this question.
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B
I did, but not in terms of, like, Coachella wardrobes.
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Yeah. So it's kind of.
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I mean, I was getting performances and whatnot.
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Yeah. Okay. But it is, like, a big part of the culture is, like, they get dressed up in, like, a fun outfit or whatever. But it is absurd when you think about the fact that, like, there. This was a concert that was started to be, like, a cheap alternative to how expensive tickets had gotten. And it's in the desert and you can camp out and come watch concerts all day. And now it has become, like, sponsored, branded Airbnbs pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for influencers to bring insane outfits made out of necklaces, draping themselves with metal to go stand in the desert for hours at a time to watch musicians. But it was funny watching people post about going to the Masters. Like, a wife of a golfer was posting all of her outfits, and the comments were like, this is not what Masters. This is not Masters appropriate. Because her, like, shirt was a little cropped, and she was like, hey, I'm not here as an influencer. I'm. I. I've been to a lot of these. I'm married to a professional golfer. I do not care what you have to say. It was just very interesting watching the culture of it all. But it also. The consumerism of that gift shop was kind of a lot. No,
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B
it was.
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C
It's like a.
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A
One of. It's a. It's a one of a kind chance because you can't get some of this stuff unless you're at the Masters. And for those who don't know getting to the Masters is difficult. There are some people that have, like, lifetime passes, but for the most part, it's a lottery, and you enter it, and you either get the chance to get tickets or you don't. And a lot of people have been trying their whole lives and have never gotten in. So it's like exclusive merch. So once people get it, they usually, you know, go kind of nuts. But watching these hauls of, like, let's go through. Everything I got at the master's gift shop was like, that is so much. Did you really need three gnomes?
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B
The gnomes. I mean, the gnomes are. There were reports that the. The master's gnomes itself, the garden gnomes that are 60 bucks in the gift shop that they put a new one out every year. They were up to over the weekend, the first run of people reselling them about like $10,000. And even now, like this week on. On Monday, as it is now still like 7, 800 for Master's Gnome.
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A
Wait, sorry. 10,000 to $700.
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B
I didn't say it was smart to spend $10,000 on them, but people are selling them for like 10 grand.
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A
Buy them for 10 grand for.
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B
I went and got the Orioles City connect on Friday because they released it in Baltimore.
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A
Do you like it? It's. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Sick. A lot of people don't. I. Yeah, I think it's nice.
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B
I love it. But I mean, there's a markup to just being like, I had this on day one. Like, I kind of get it. Not to the ten thousand dollar.
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A
No. For a lawn gnome.
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B
A lawn gnome that you're definitely not
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A
putting on your lawn because somebody would steal it.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You'd have to like drill it into your lawn.
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B
New York Post had a report that they're. They are projecting $70 million in merch sales from the Masters.
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A
That's wild. It's wild.
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C
Are the tickets expensive?
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B
No.
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C
To go to the Masters. That. So that's part of it. Right. You get like somewhat.
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A
Tickets are cheaper. The food is cheap.
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C
Yep.
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A
The, you know, but at the end of the day, exit through the gift shop and the sweatshirt is a hundred and ninety dollars or whatever. So, you know, it's, it's, it's, it is what it is. But it was interesting to see especially sort of mirrored by and opposed by Coachella content. So that was the other big thing happening. And we will talk about Coachella on the other side of a break. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll get to Coachella, the reactions to that. We'll talk about the NBA postseason, which is the best of basketball and also the worst of basketball, which was a downright tank off. We had a tank off. But we're gonna take a break. This is casuals. We'll be right back. Ladies, tired of sunglasses ripping your hair out? I know I am. Meet Shady Ray's Tangle Free sunglasses. Because once the weather warms up and you're outside for those park days and beach trips, the last thing you want is your sunglasses ruining your hair. These are designed with smooth no snag nose pieces that glide through your hair, not yank, not pull, and definitely not ruin your fresh blowout. They're lightweight Polariz so you're not squinting in the bright sun and cute enough to wear with everything. Plus, every pair is backed by lost and broken protection. Leave them at the beach, drop them in a parking lot after a long day out, or sit on them in the car. They'll replace them. So as you're getting into spring and summer, plans upgrade your sunglasses. Today we've teamed up with Shady Rays to bring you a limited time offer. Head to shadyrays.com and use code CASUALS for 50% off two or more polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. Shadyrays.com use code CASUALS the road to the playoffs is here. Catch every NBA matchup on ESPN and every NHL showdown on ESPN and TNT with Sling. Sling is great. You customize a channel lineup and only pay for what actually gets watched. So no more wondering why random channels are there. No contracts, just flexibility. Choose a one day pass starting at 4.99 for a big game, a seven day pass for playoff series, or you can go monthly for more. Pause anytime with no penalties. Still enjoy over 600 free channels. You can even stream instantly on all devices at home or on the go with Sling. I know for me what I love about Sling is that on my phone when I'm on the road, maybe in like a green room that doesn't have any tv, I can watch on my phone and easily go between a hockey game that's on ESPN and then I can switch over to an NBA matchup. So choose and customize your channel lineup or pause and watch for free. Sling lets you do that. Visit sling.com to learn more. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stuck, anxious or unsure, it's okay. Those feelings are more common than we think. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a good reminder that you don't have to go through those feelings alone. Having someone with you to listen to, understand, to support you can make all the difference. Whatever it is that's keeping you up at night, Therapy with Better Help can help you check in with yourself and gain support from experienced professionals. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and preferences and Better Help will handle the initial Therapist Matching work for you? Feel confident knowing better help. Therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the us. It is a resource that's available to you. You don't have to be on this journey alone. Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off@betterhelp.com Katie Nolan that's better. H L P.com Katie Nolan if you're trying to be more intentional about what you wear day to day, Quince can help with that. They've got pieces that feel easy, comfortable and yet still put together. Quince uses premium materials like 100 European linen, organic cotton and ultra soft denim. Everything at Quint is priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands. They work directly with ethical factories. They cut out the middlemen. So you are paying for quality and craftsmanship, not brand markup. I just recently got some jeans. Quints has all of the cuts that I was looking for from wide leg to like a more boot cut and they're all so affordable the price on them cannot be beat. So refresh your everyday with luxury. You'll actually use head to Quince.com Casuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com Casuals, free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince./casuals and we're back. Okay Hi. So we've already kind of established you two really didn't dip your toe that deep into Coachella. But did you happen to hear the hullabaloo around Justin Bieber's headlining set from Saturday night?
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B
I did.
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A
Okay Chris.
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C
I did as well. Yes.
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Okay. So the a lot of stuff across Coachella was a big deal. The tickets were very exciting. Expensive prices were starting at a whopping $549. I guess VIP prices hit 1199 like 1100 dollars and 99 more dollars. On top of that resale prices even more expensive obviously last minute passes totaling $2,000. Some tickets even exceeded $6,000. I heard the you know cuz a lot of brands send influencers so they'll kind of foot the bill on the passes and etc the housing whatever. But a a not brand safe person like let's say an only fans model has to pay for that themselves. And I saw one of the top you know only fans models doing a tick tock about how much money she spent. Now granted she got a private jet for her friends and an airbnb that can't way in advance, that canceled. And then she had the last minute book an Airbnb for like six people at Coachella. So of course she's spending more than the average person. But between that and like passes for six people. For this three day trip, she spent over $190,000.
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B
Jesus.
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A
Now again, she's a, I believe, the top earner on Onlyfans, so you would hate to hear how much that's bringing in. This is barely a drop in the bucket. It's barely a goon bag pegged to rotisserie, but it ruined a fortune for me. Now it's a lot. Basically these things were expensive. Now, food and drink prices, people were posting how expensive those were. One girl showed off her Coachella meal. Island noodles, no idea what those are, $23 and carne asada fries for $28. So food was very expensive, unfortunately. More bleak to me was how many people were there at Coachella, the crowding that you saw of people and the dearth of people in line for food. Now, it could have just been because the food was expensive, but it felt to me like a reflection of the times that maybe most of those people there weren't hungry, whether that be they were on Ozempic or what, but it just felt like no one was eating. And then I was seeing a lot of people in these outfits and I was like, it shows that no one is eating. So that's a little dark in the middle of a desert, which feels like a survival situation.
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B
You're worried about the, the festival, food industry. It'll be all right.
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A
No, I'm worried about people. I'm worried about people not eating enough is what I'm worried about.
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B
We've evolved as a species. We no longer eat.
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A
It's not true. Please eat. But the Justin Bieber controversy, he took the main stage Saturday night. Everyone was calling it Beebchella, Bieber, Chella. Neither of those work well enough for me to feel like I want to keep saying it.
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C
They were actually calling it that.
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A
Well, just like, you know, Biebercella. Like, people were so excited to go. Saturday night was the big night. Sabrina Carpenter headlined on Friday night. But people listen. Justin Bieber has die hard fans. Justin Bieber came of age in the public eye. Justin Bieber meant a lot to a lot of people, has been through a lot since then and is sort of now trying to take control of his own story. And I think people are rooting for him in a way. He has a die hard fan base that Was activated by let's all go to Coachella and see B. Burchella. 11:30pm Saturday night. Performed 34 songs. And at one point in his set, he was sitting at like, a laptop and. And pulling up old YouTube videos and. And scrolling through them. Now I kind of see both sides of this, and I'm curious to know with all of the information presented where you two fall on this. So get ready to have to exercise your right to vote.
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C
It's okay.
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A
Okay, so on the one hand, in defense of sitting in front of a crowd of what, 125,000 fans and playing YouTube videos, Justin Bieber was discovered on YouTube. And so firstly, I would say he has a unique connection to YouTube. A lot of people probably discover discovered Justin Bieber the same way in that same sort of a situation where they were scrolling through YouTube and found and saw and followed his career from there. I also, like I said before, Justin Bieber, somebody that a lot of people knew and became a fan of when he was young and have watched him grow and. And fail and have his issues and his struggles throughout his career and are now rooting for him. And this felt like hanging out with a friend and a friend going, remember this old video? Like, some of the songs he played on his YouTube videos were songs he hasn't performed live in a very long time because they were like early career Justin Bieber songs and the kind of songs they were. It's almost like it wouldn't have aged well for him to try to perform it. Like, watching him perform Baby at his big age would almost feel a little. If he was, like, doing choreography, you'd be like, I don't know. This doesn't really vibe with who he is now. And so, like, the best way I think for him to play an old song like that may have been by going back and playing it on YouTube and like harmonizing with a. However old he was, version of himself. That layer of it I could find interesting. Now on the other side, after playing videos of himself and harmonizing and singing with himself, which you could say was cool, he pulled up viral videos like Deez Nut and Double Rainbow. And at that point you're like, are we gonna do this for the rest of the set? Are we just sitting watching? Because that is a part of hanging out with your friends. Hey, watch this YouTube video. But if it goes on for too long, the hang is ruined. It's just somebody. If somebody plays a dud of a video, you go like, what are we doing? We're just sitting around watching bad YouTube videos. The other argument against is that he was reportedly paid more than anyone's ever been paid to headline Coachella. He got $10 million dollars, Beyonce and a bunch of other people that are around the same level, 8 million. $10 million to play YouTube videos is tough. It's a tough thing to square. Especially when the night before Sabrina Carpenter had such an elaborate now that's the type of music and performance she puts on. Sure. But it was such an elaborate set with fountains and just a lot of stuff I can imagine was difficult to pull off in a desert. So I think like part of it is the intimacy between the audience and the artist and another part of it is like this isn't your own personal concert, Justin Bieber, this is a festival. So it's not all Bieber fans. So maybe making such a perfectly fine tuned to your fan base performance wasn't the best possible way. And then the last thing I'll flag before I ask how you guys feel about it is it did kind of give advertisement because YouTube was showing Coachella that was where you could stream it if you wanted to watch. And just having like a big a nice branded mention for YouTube from the headliner. And then didn't Katy Perry make a joke about how she was glad he had YouTube Premium so they didn't have to deal with ads during his set. The whole thing kind of felt like an ad. And that could just be me being sick of being advertised to but it, it, it gave ad a little bit. So that being said, some people said this was the greatest Coachella performance ever. And some people said that this was the biggest rip off and that Justin Bieber is a joke. Where do the two of you land
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B
this screams of we thought about a great idea but we thought about it 10 minutes before it was time to go on stage.
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A
You think so?
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B
I like, I don't think they actually thought about it 10 minutes before they went on stage, but it feels like it. I think it's for what you said of how like yes, him performing Baby now when he's a grown man is going to come off weird. But him duetting with himself as a child is actually a really cool idea. But we have seen Coachella resurrect Tupac. We have seen them do some cool stuff with tech where you can put actual child Bieber up there duetting with adult man Bieber.
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A
Right.
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B
Rather than him sitting at a laptop and and sharing screen on a zoom and playing his YouTube videos and singing along with like a not a split track. This is like the very laziest version of a good idea.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Chris, you said he performed 34 songs, right? Like that's a decent amount of performing. Like, if you're getting that, in addition to him having this sort of hangout moment with the crowd and sort of bringing them into this intimate moment, I feel like that's a decent set. It's not as if he just put together, you know, five or ten songs and then just, you know, did whatever for the rest of the. The performance. That's a good amount of musical content that they're getting in addition to him scrolling through YouTube.
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B
They really do. 34 songs, though. That's like the eras tour was like 34 song shows.
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A
She did a ton of songs. Yeah, actually I think it was more than that. But he. I think it was like some of them were like bits of songs. I'm not sure that he did full songs. I think it was sort of like a piece of 30. At least a piece of 34.
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C
Okay.
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A
Songs. And. And he sounded good, his voice sounded good. And I think he, you know, come out, came out a couple years ago. He was diagnosed with something, I don't remember the name of it, but like a chronic illness. And so I think a lot of people were. Have been rooting for him. And I think this was a good performance vocally. I just think like main stage at Coachella, headlining elaborate sets and ideas have sort of become the norm. And while I don't think everybody has to do them, I do think if Sabrina Carpenter came out and played YouTube videos, people would be like, what the fuck? But again, maybe that's just because of who they are as artists and it's very different. The most important question I would like to ask is if you guys could gather a Coachella sized crowd and play them one YouTube video. What YouTube video would you play?
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B
I'm skipping the obvious one of playing them Trump dancing with Epstein.
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A
It's the obvious one, the one we all first thought of, the one that
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B
would be the most useful to show large crowds. I have to go with asking Demi Lovato her favorite dish.
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A
A mug.
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B
A mug. A mug.
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A
Because it has a handle, you can kind of hold it and eat food out of it or drink out of it. Yeah, that was a funny one. Chris, do you have a. You. I know you don't like social media. Surely you've watched a YouTube video before?
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C
Yeah, there's one actually that I showed Brady last week because there's an Australian YouTube video that actually got immortalized in the National Film Archive. A couple of weeks ago. It's called democracy manifest and it's footage from, I think the early 90s or late 80s of an Australian guy getting arrested outside of a Chinese restaurant. And it is one of the funniest videos that you will ever see. And Brady can attest to this because I showed Brady. And Brady was doing a lot of laughing when I was showing him.
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B
It's.
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A
I want to do a lot of laughing.
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B
He's not wrong.
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A
Can you text it to me? Why don't you guys tell me why didn't I know? Can you send it to me?
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C
Yeah, of course.
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A
I'll watch it later, I guess.
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B
Chris, you want to run through just like the quotes of the. Of the major beats in this.
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C
Can we play some of it?
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B
Yeah.
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C
I don't just pull it up.
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A
I don't see why not. I don't know how the rules work. I'd play everything.
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C
All right, I'm gonna.
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A
I'm gonna show you while you are you. Is it gonna take a sec? Because I can kill time.
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C
No, I got it right here.
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A
Nope, he's got it ready to go.
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C
All right, let me know if you can hear this.
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A
Yeah,
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C
just a moment. You just assured me that I could speak.
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B
Sit down inside the car.
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A
We're not assuring anything. We're under arrest. Look, I'm underwater. Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest. Have a look at the headlock here.
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B
See that chap over there?
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A
Get your hand off my penis. This is the bloke who got me on the penis before. Why did you do this? For what reasons? What is the charge?
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C
Eating a meal. A succulent Chinese meal.
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A
That's what that's from. Nice. Headlocks up.
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C
Yes, I see that she knows your judo well.
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A
And you, sir, are you waiting to receive my limp penis? How dare. Get your hands on there.
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C
Incredible.
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A
Obsessed. I've heard that and I. I guess I never knew what it was from. That's very funny.
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C
Tata and farewell.
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A
You have my penis in your hand.
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C
Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?
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A
This is democracy manifest. For eating a succulent Chinese meal.
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C
My daughter now walks around the house going, a succulent Chinese meal.
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A
It's very funny.
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C
It's very funny to hear a four year old say that.
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A
I think if I had to show a YouTube video it would. It'd either be old Greg or Love old Greg or it would be that video. This one isn't very popular, but it's got so much whimsy of Bjork talking about and breaking down a television and trying to explain how it works. If you've never seen it, you're probably like everybody else. But it is one of my favorite videos on YouTube because she is so interesting. Bjork's way of thinking is so interesting. And she does not know the tech, but she tries to understand it by looking at it. And it's, go, go, look it up. That's what I would play for a Coachella sized crowd. Do we do what the Sabrina Carpenter being accused of being culturally insensitive. I will admit I think it was like a. Not her best moment. But I. I don't. I saw. I don't think that the outrage is meeting the actual. It felt like a lot of people were trying to act like they knew about this cultural thing. What's it called? A zagruta. Is that how you say it? Yeah.
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B
I feel like she didn't recognize that it was a cultural.
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A
Yes.
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B
Celebration call being done. And I bet if she had, she probably would have had a much different reaction to it.
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A
I think so too. And I think it came across insensitive. I think when the fan yelled back, it's my culture. And she replied, that's your culture is like, not good. And not what she should have said, but I don't think it was. I think people really underestimate when you are in a crowd that big with in ear monitors and all of the choreography. She wasn't like, ready to do crowd work. She heard a noise. It caught her off guard. And based on her apology when she says, could have handled it better. Now I know what a zagruda is. I welcome all. Cheers. From here on out, I feel like indicates that, like, now that I'm aware. I'm aware and I will move much more gracefully through such an interaction. But it felt. I mean, I understand being upset if it is your culture. It felt like one of those moments where people whose culture it wasn't were acting like, we all know that that's a zagruta. And it was like, I think a lot of us are learning it in this moment and what a great moment that is for us to learn and understand and move on. Could she have handled it better? Yes. Did it deserve everybody being as mad as it got? I'm not so sure. And that's our Coachella content. One last little thing. Very interesting to see. Like I said, my algorithm had a lot of Coachella in it. Interesting to see how much footage I saw of people filming themselves watching somebody performing at Coachella. It's just. I'm not even saying Anything. I'm just saying that's a new phenomenon. I don't think I ever before have watched people watch a concert. Usually you'd film the other.
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B
Going to concerts is weird now.
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A
It's just. It was all phones.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Imagine if Coachella did the masters thing and was like, no phones, no running, no arms on your chairs.
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C
I mean, $50 egg salad sandwiches.
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A
They still wouldn't eat them. I still don't think they would eat them.
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B
There's something too, like the first time. God, I can't remember what it's called. But the. You obviously know this. The, the bag that you put your phone in for comedy show now.
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A
Oh, yeah. There's a bunch of different names that they've got for those. Yawn.
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B
The first time I ever did that, when that, you know, became a thing, when that became in fashion, I was like, I don't want to put my phone in a bag. Like, I. You can't make me lock up my phone. But now, like, you go into it and you're just in a. Everybody is present. No one's holding up a phone and filming something or filming themselves something, shooting something. They're never going to watch. Like having just a room full of people that are all paying attention and laughing and enjoying the same thing together. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, little Amish country where we're like, you know, removed from technology. And I love it. Like, it really creates a special experience and like, I'm not against concerts that way. You know, like, I think that would be a special. It's a special kind of level to it. Like, I imagine there's, there's magic in going to a golf tournament where everybody is just focused on something, enjoying it together instead of filming it.
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A
Yeah. There's a, like a tech thing called the. I think it's called the brick that you can buy. It's too expensive, but you can buy it, tap your phone on it and it basically disables your phone from doing a bunch of things until you tap it again to turn those things back on. And I will say I've thought about buying it specifically because I've run out of the self control to not pick up my phone. And like, you know, it's sick. We're all fucking in our phones all the time.
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B
You would be Robert McIntyre giving that thing the finger immediately.
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A
I know you.
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B
Why did I do this?
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A
I just need something to help me because, like, now I feel like if I don't look, I'm going to miss something. And then the podcast won't be as good as the podcast could be because I didn't see that one story that would have changed everything. It's like, really not worth it. Okay, let's move to basketball because the play in tournament is set. The 2026 NBA postseason starts on today, Tuesday. If you're watching this on YouTube, it started yesterday. Eight teams will face off in the play in tournament over the next two days, correct?
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C
Yes, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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A
So we've got the number nine Hornets against the number ten Heat. The winner of that will advance to play
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C
the loser of the 76s and Magic. It's very confusing.
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A
It is really confusing, and I don't feel good about it. So they'll play the losers of the number seven 76ers and the number eight Magic. The winner. Winner will play the Celtics.
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C
Correct.
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A
Okay. Why. Why are they doing this to me? First question, Chris. Why are they doing this to me? Money to get more teams technically into the postseason, I guess.
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C
Yes, Essentially there's more games, more. More opportunities for selling, you know, media packages and things like that. It's. It's always all about money.
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A
Yeah.
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B
As literal matchups go, I would be more afraid of hornets than heat and more afraid of magic than 76.
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A
Well, hold on now, because heat can be really scary and you. And there's nothing you can do because once you take all your clothes off, there's nothing else to take off. So if it's like really, really, really hot, that seems like a miserable way to die from just heat.
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B
But I think a medium amount of hornets could kill me. But a medium amount, I don't, you know, I don't know.
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A
Let's find out. Release the hornets. Yeah, I don't think hornets can kill you unless you're allergic to them. I think that can hurt. And maybe you be a big baby and pass out from it, but I don't think they're not poisonous.
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B
I think in volume, they probably could. Could get to you pretty good.
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A
If you have we also in this area, please email or call can a bunch of.
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B
How many hornets would it take to kill me?
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It's like, is it like the nicotine patches in thank you for smoking or. It's like, actually, if you put enough of these on, you can knock a guy out. Out. I would be more afraid of heat myself. And then what did you say? You're more afraid of Magic than. What is a 76er? Is it like a founding father? Basically. Is it 1776? It's the liberty Bell. It's the that's it. Well, I do fear them as a woman, because they didn't really consider me, you know, being not considered. I just broke a bracelet live on air. Unfortunately, it was from college, so the fact that it was still around anyway was kind of nice.
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C
Oh, man.
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Yeah, it's fine. It's. I didn't feel emotional about it. It's just a little rubber band bracelet. Yeah. I guess I would fear the 76ers in that way, but I guess I could see why magic would also be scary. I feel like when magic is. Is scary, they call it something else. It's like sorcery, the dark arts. Yeah. Magic is always fun. It's more like how crazy that I told you your own number. Taylor Rooks. And then in terms of other. Let's just keep applying that logic. We've got the number nine Clippers facing off against 10 warriors and the number seven Suns playing the number eight Trailblazers. What are the Clippers? It's a boat.
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Yeah. It's an unarmed boat, so I think I got to go with the warriors in that one.
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Well, yeah, warriors are scary. And then sun versus, like, I don't know, leaders, People who lead.
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B
I think it's more like literal. Like the Oregon Trail. Like, we're talking about, like, Lewis and Clark's a trail. They're Conestoga wagons. I think I'm gonna have to fear the sun on that one.
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A
Funny, for a guy who wasn't afraid of heat just moments ago. Okay, but to be afraid of the
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B
sun, it's like, peak amount of heat.
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Didn't a lot of those Trailblazers end up having to, like, eat people?
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B
Did they have to?
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No.
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They choose to.
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No. The Donner party. Didn't they blaze a trail? They shouldn't have left? They shouldn't have gone. They should have heeded the warnings, but they didn't because they're trailblazers, so. I'm just saying you're not afraid of those people. They might eat people. We don't know. There's no way of knowing. If only there were books written about history. Guess someday we'll find out. NBA play in game statistics. Just a reminder, do not count towards a player's official regular season or career playoff totals, which I don't like. It means these aren't real. These aren't real games because they're not
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score 100 points and will never really be members.
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It doesn't count, doesn't mean anything because. Because these aren't real games. They're cash grabs. They're like last ditch efforts to get into. They basically litigate the last spots of the postseason instead of deciding it before the postseason starts.
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And you know what the worst part of this is? The AFL have now adopted this and they are implementing it as of this season.
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A
Man. Yeah, man.
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I mean, it's all in what you call it like the mlb, like the wild card.
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I like that. I know. Isn't that crazy? And I like that. I like it because it's a series.
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B
Yeah.
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It's big enough that it's a series. They don't waste your time. It happens within three days, three games, back to back to back. If you need the third, that's the only bummer is when nobody needs the third day. I think there's been a year where there's like one game on the third day because the other two have been decided. But I. I don't know. I like it, but these are just a game.
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C
Yeah. The MLB postseason is still really exclusive even with the wild card series. Whereas more than 50 of the NBA make the postseason, which should not happen.
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Yeah, it's not right. That's not right. Hockey, by the way, is still happening. The Bruins officially clinched shout out, but
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shocks are yet to be eliminated.
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Say they're not eliminated yet and they're gonna be. They. They could. Technically there is a world where three
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games left could make it.
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So we'll keep our our eyes on that and we'll update you when we get there. Maybe we should bring the what chaos guys back in to give us like a playoff preview. Because I know they're doing well, so maybe they're too busy for us, but I'll check in. And now that I've officially met them in person, I feel better about asking them to come and do that. Now let's. The one of the things that a lot of people are talking about with the NBA is tanking. It's been a big discussion this year. Tanking, which is intentionally playing poorly or like benching people who are good and starting people who are less good in an effort to improve your position in the draft, in an effort to make your team better later you sort of realize, look, we don't have a chance of winning anything this year, so we might as well just like not try to win or worse, try to lose so that we can better position ourselves for assets like draft picks. They investigated the Kings for tanking recently and just turned out that it was their coach being incompetent, which I so embarrassing. I do hate to be that coach and go like I was. I made such a dumb call that everybody thought we were losing on purpose.
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C
Definitely worse.
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Yeah, definitely worse and definitely not great. But the Jazz played the Grizzlies on Friday and many are calling it a tank off. It was a who could possibly lose better. Both teams have been using 2 way and 10 day contract players to increase their lottery odds. The Jazz ended up winning the game 147. Oh God. 147 to 101. So they still ended up winning by 46 points. But even like Brian Windhorst a, a reporter, a well respected reporter in NBA spaces on ESPN called it the tanking super bowl which I, that's. I take take such issue with this because it feels like it really should be more discouraged by the media covering the. This should be like a thing you're afraid to say and admit. And it doesn't seem like that's the case. A Memphis win would have reduced the team's odds of landing a top four pick in the lottery by 7% while a Utah win would have reduced its odds by 10%. So both teams came into this going like we cannot win this. We want better odds.
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But the problem is that like the players are going to try to win no matter what. So the only thing you can do for now, the only thing you can do is try to put the worst players you can out there and have them do their best and just hope that their best isn't good enough.
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The Grizzlies had four players on 10 day contracts that started and then Jamai Mashak. Is that how you say that?
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I think so. I, I don't know A lot of the guys that were playing in this game. Let's just say that.
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Can you just define for a casual. A two way player.
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C
Yeah. Someone who can sort of go back and forth between the NBA and the G League.
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Yeah. So that's. They had that guy and then four guys that were on a 10 day contract. They also only had eight combined career NBA starts for their starting lineup going into the game. Eight combined start in the NBA from everybody who was on the floor at the beginning of the game. Eight times they shot 11 for 52 from deep. That's 21%. The Jazz 8 for 17 from the free throw line. That's 47%. It was pretty brutal. But again the Jazz won by 46, six points by quite a margin. So that's what's go. That's maybe the worst NBA game you could have watched Right before the good stuff. Right before we get the pointy end right before the.
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C
Okay, stuff with the playing tournament.
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Sorry. Absolutely right. Distinction. That's right. That's right. It was like a little right before the. Made those more interesting to watch. Okay. A couple pieces of news from around the arena. I saw a lot of like clips of things happening in stadiums or arenas that aren't the actual sports but are relevant to fans. I'd like to start this by updating about the Zamith. So remember we told you last week that the Utah Mammoth, the new hockey team, rolled out a Zamboni that was a mammoth. It had like a big. It had tusks, it had a trunk and ears. I'm just naming parts of a mammoth, but it was like a beautiful, cool looking thing. I just wanted to update because this is really important and I didn't know this when I told. It doesn't do anything.
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That's fine.
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A
It doesn't Zamboni the ice. Oh.
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C
What?
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I know. That was my reaction because the tusks make it so that you can't cut close to the boards. So it couldn't possibly actually do the job of a Zamboni. So it's actually just a vehicle that they roll out with fans on it. And then a Zamboni has to come out and Zamboni the ice.
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C
That's cheating.
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I'm kind of out on it now. Yeah. You're fine with it.
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B
I mean, you're still. You still have a Zamboni out there at the same time, right?
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A
I don't know if it's at the same time. Is it. Are they like dueling Zambonis?
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B
This looks cooler than not having it out there.
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Yeah. But I do wish if you're going to make it out of a Zamboni, it should work to Zamboni. I don't know. Just felt crazy to me. I just wanted to update for the integrity of the story as most people may have only heard it from us. Let's start with the Pacers fans. This went viral. And then it went viral on top of that. So cutaway footage of two fans talking to each other who we assumed and then later confirmed are dating. And it's a man talking for kind of a while and a woman listening actively. And then you kind of see her make a face like, what he's saying doesn't make any sense. And then she says what it appeared to be like. Either that's not true or that's you. And then the important line was, what the fuck are you talking about? And when I first saw it, I gotta be Honest, I was like, the manosphere state of the Internet right now. I could see this clip getting annoyingly repurposed by people being like, why would you let your woman speak to you like that? And I was so pleasantly surprised by the reaction being people like, I like this authentic communication between two people who clearly love each other that, like, get you a girl who will listen to the stupid rant that you're only half sure of. And then after you're done speaking, will go, are you fucking dumb? Why would you say that? That doesn't make any sense.
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The best part of the video for me is after she says, what the fuck are you talking about? He does this, like, acknowledging nod, like, yeah, you're right. What am I talking about? Like, his reaction to her yelling at him was the funniest part of the clip.
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Yeah, because he went like, well, yeah,
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you got a point.
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It was pretty stupid. We now know what they were talking about. It was liberal. The. The. I think it was, like, the merits of a liberal arts education. It was something very dorky that they had.
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C
Well, that's what he said. It was.
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Yeah. That they had heard on a podcast that they were discussing the. I don't know. We found out because apparently Grace, the woman in the clip, is, like, semi popular on Twitter, and it was her reacting to it and going like, oh, my God, I didn't know you all were watching us have this conversation, crying, I love my boyfriend. This is just how we talk is what she tweeted. And then they appeared on Inside the NBA later in the weekend. The interview ended with Shaq making an interesting proposal. I guess we'll say let's take a listen to Shaq on Inside the NBA with this viral couple, Michael and Grace. I'll tell you what. If you ask her to marry you right now, I'll buy the engagement ring. Ooh, listen. Ain't no listen to her right now. Do it right now.
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C
Get on your knee right now.
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B
I'll buy the ring.
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A
I'll send you.
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B
Look into the camera when you do that. Oh, look at her face, man. If you guys agreed to come to the wedding, we'll do that. I'll come to the wedding.
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No, no, you can't do it. We got to tell us what the wedding is first before we can do that. Ask her right now. Go ahead. I didn't agree to this. I didn't agree to that. But you can say she didn't agree. You have to ask. This is brutal. This is brutal. If you imagine at a time like this, when Everything's expensive. Engagement ring's pretty expensive. To say, if you propose right now, I'll buy the ring.
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B
Done.
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I almost feel like I would squeeze his leg where the camera can't see and be like, just do it. I'll say, yes, let's take the ring, and then we'll figure it out later to back them into a corner. And then they back them into a clout corner and go, if you come, I'll propose right now. Now it's a standoff. Now they're trying to get a viral clip of, like, Shaq pays for engagement ring. And they're like, shaq agrees to go to a wedding for. What are we doing? I hate this. I hate this. This is like proposing at a. At a game times a million.
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C
Yeah. And I think he felt that. Michael felt that. And he's like, I don't know what to do. I don't want to be a part of this. Please.
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What she should have said is, what the are you talking about?
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Shaq genuinely confused that someone said no to a business proposal.
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He was like, wait, I said I would pay you for a thing.
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B
You just say yes to everything. This is how Shaq's work.
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A
I'm in those dollar, those general.
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C
It is funny because she said at the beginning of the interview she only knows Shaq from his Icy Hot commercials.
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It's very funny. It's like only knowing Frank Thomas from those new Genics commercials. And she'll like it, too. All right. Not the only crazy thing we saw in the crowd. Did you see the clip of Deuce Tatum, Jason Tatum's son, just absolutely losing a battle to a Sour Patch Kid? It was a clip of him eating. How old is Deuce? He's got to be, like, seven, maybe. Yeah. And he was eating a Sour Patch Kid. And then you just see him going through.
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C
He's eight.
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Eight. All of the things that happen to your face when Sour Patch Kids are relatively new to your existence. You've only been on earth for eight years. It was like live. He was really. His face was. I don't know how to make that audio, but it contorting his face really struggling. Chris, you had an interesting interaction with this.
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C
Yeah, I was watching this game live. This was one of the. The things that I pointed out in the. What to watch if you want to watch sports this week on last week's show. And so, of course, I was watching this. This was a big game for the Celtics. Could have clinched second seat if we won against the Knicks. So I was. I was Just I was playing darts at the same time. So I have, like, a dartboard downstairs at my bar, so I normally have the game one and I throw darts at the same time.
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A
Okay.
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C
And so just playing darts and watching the tv, saw Deuce have those Sour Patch Kids, and I'm like, you know what that looks. Looks pretty nice. So I went to the pantry, pulled out my Sour Patch Kids, and started starting it. The Sour Patch Kids. Does that mean it was an ad? I don't know if everything was an ad. Doing something for Sour Patch Kids, but I legitimately went straight to my pantry and pulled out our Sour Patch Kids and finished the bag of Sour Patch Kids that we had.
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A
Fascinating. Yeah.
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B
And now finish the bag of Sour Patch Kids is aggressive.
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A
Depends on how.
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C
Well, it wasn't a full bag. The. It had lasted since the opening day of March Madness, so it was a solid, you know, almost month.
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A
Kind of a long time.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Okay. And then maybe not the funniest kid in the crowd, though, because there was a Panthers game. Now, important for me to note, the Florida Panthers will not be participating in the postseason.
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B
Oh, why not?
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A
Of the NHL. They've just been eliminated, so unfortunately, they won't be there.
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B
Okay.
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A
Yeah. I just. If I could have a moment. It's just sad, you know, they do so much winning, and their fan base has grown so much from zero to whatever it's at now over the last two years.
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C
Yeah. Bandwagon jumpers.
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A
I know it's a real shame that they won't be there, but I still. They do still let them play the end of their season, you know, because that's just nice of them to do. And during a Florida Panthers game, there was a little girl in the audience that had clearly brought a sign. And then, because of the performance of the game, how the game was going, had ripped a corner off of that sign and written a new thing that she wanted the world to see. It was a ripped corner of a piece of poster board, and she smacked it onto the glass very much like, how do you like them apples? Style. This little girl holds up a piece of paper in front of the glass, right behind Sergei Bobrovsky, the goalie player. Turn in your badge and gun, you're off the force. Sergey Barovski. She had written on that piece of paper. I'm a goalie, too, but better.
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C
Elite owned. Absolutely Elite. Incredible.
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Boski's record this season, 27, 23 and 1. He has a, like, just over three goals against average, and his save percentage is about.877. Which is anything below nine is. Is not usually good, and that's a fair bit below nine, so just very funny. I'm a go. No punctuation. Truly childlike. I'm a goalie too, but better. As you're reading it, you're starting at the top going, oh, that's really sweet. Hilarious. And I'm obsessed with it. I like little girls trolling hockey players. It brings me a lot of joy. This one wasn't in a stadium. It was just outside of a stadium. But it's like a transitional story out of that in the stadium bit that we just did there. The Mariners, Seattle Mariners baseball team gave Ichiro Suzuki a statue. It's. He's a Hall of Famer. They built a statue, and they unveiled it in front of their stadium on Friday. There was a sheet over this statue. They pull the sheet down, and it reveals a statue of Ichiro, but with a broken bat. The bat that he's holding in his signature position had just somehow, like, almost snapped at the bottom and was just dangling and spinning at an angle that made the whole thing look ridiculous. Hilarious. Immediately hilarious. Afterwards, Suzuki said, I didn't think Mariano would come out here and break the bat, which was very funny. They fixed it right away. They, like, came out and bent it. It kind of reminded me of when you were little in Little League, and they would give you a trophy, and you would learn very quickly that, like, oh, the bat just pops right out of this thing. And so you'd, like, break it and then be like, ah. And then you just slide it right back in and go like, oh, Actually, that's not that hard to fix. So it ended up not being as catastrophic as it started, but just the yanking of the sheet off of just to see it go like, was very funny.
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B
We gotta rethink the way we do athlete statue reveals. Because it feels like one out of every three is a disaster, whether we're breaking something or if it's Dwyane Wade not looking like Dwyane Wade or Cristiano Ronaldo melting.
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Being the size of his fist, the proportions of it. They also were giving away a bobblehead that same day at that same game, and they posted, like, breaking its bat to reflect that it looked more like the statue, which I thought was cute. Shout out to the people who work on social media for these teams. Chris doesn't respect what you do or consume it at all, but we do. We do. We see you. Should we talk about jazz Chisholm maybe not knowing the rules of baseball. Brady. I Don't I? Can I just say up top, I obviously hate the Yankees and will until I die. Thank you very much. And rarely have sympathy for any of them. But I do feel like Yankees fans love to blame anytime anything's going wrong. On Jazz Chisholm, doesn't it feel like a lot of the time he bears a lot of the brunt of the frustration of that fan base? And I'm just, just all I'm doing
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B
is noticing he's one of the biggest personalities they have. He's also not hitting the ball. He's also a guy who's going to come up for a new contract and he says he wants $300 million or whatever it is. It's a huge number. They. I can see where he kind of stands out among the rest of the players.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Anti. Yes. Because he has personality. Yeah, I can see where he stands out. And it also doesn't help when he's the second baseman and doesn't know the rules of a double play.
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A
Okay, so what happened was, correct me if I get any of this wrong. It was a tie game. They were in the 10th inning. It was tied four. Four. There were. The bases were loaded. Yeah, it was a ground ball. Hit two. Second base two. Jazz Chisholm. They also, I think at the time had like five infielders. They had basically brought in an outfielder to make it a. They. They. Jazz Chisholm fields the ball. The correct thing to do in that situation is you're going to tag the guy running from first to second and you'll throw to first. You want to get the two outs because there was one out and they needed the two outs so that the runners on third didn't score. Which would. Did that walk it off? Were they away? Were they home? I feel like the game ended on this play, but I don't remember. So he bobbles the fielding of the ball, which cost him the opportunity to tag the guy and through to first base. The run scores from third base. After the game, he was asked about that situation and here is what he said.
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I don't know what the rule is.
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If I went to first base first
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B
and threw it back to second, if it's still out, is it still a double play? I don't.
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I don't know. Does it count as not an rbi? No. They'll score. They'll still score. Well, it was what I was trying
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to do in my mind. Probably wouldn't have worked anyway.
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Okay, so that is his teammate chiming in to refresh his memory. I guess on the rules of the. I'm. I feel like this could. Is this. He just misspoke? Because it sounds like. It sure sounds like. Because of the way he says, is it still a double play? It sounds like he's asking if, like, he doesn't understand the force rules, which would be absurd. Uh, I guess it's possible. He's saying he doesn't know if you get the out after the run crosses the plate, if the run still counts.
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I think that's what he's trying to say is the order of the outs. And if both of those outs are recorded, does the run still score? Depending on the force plays versus the tag and the order of them. You still gotta know that.
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I know, but I think if. If the.
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B
The.
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The silver lining is that he says right before that clip that we played, he says, like, I wanted to field it, tag the runner and throw to first. When I didn't field it cleanly, I had to do something else. His initial instinct was correct. So whether or not he knew the rule he did was going to do the right thing thing. And once he didn't field it cleanly, he probably couldn't have done it either way. So it didn't really matter. But just a brutal thing to say. I don't know, does it count? Does it count as not an rbi? Also a weird way to phrase it. And so it was just a tough. This combined with him saying that the reason he's not having a good season so far is because it's cold and he's cold and that he doesn't do well until the weather warms up. Just not a great weekend for Jazz Chisholm, unfortunately.
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Aaron Boone said Sunday, he was like, I think he knows the rule. He was just confused on it, but I think he knows the rule.
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Yeah, not just really not a great weekend for Jazz Chisholm, but and also not a great weekend for the Jazz, who again, won that game. They wanted to lose 147 to one on one. So Jazz in general, not having a good weekend. Also, I don't. I didn't see a single Jazz act booked at Coachella. So that's three strikes for Jazz this weekend. Not good. Really not good. And by the way, three strikes jazz would mean you're out. I don't know if you know, just so we're all on the same page. Okay. And then the last thing I have in here, and I'll be honest, it's not really neutral. I wrote it as the convention, but it's UFC327 in Miami on Saturday night night, Donald Trump showed up as the special guest of UFC president Dana White besties. During the event, UFC added about between Derek Lewis and Josh. Is it hokit for UFC Freedom250, which is the one that's happening at the. On the White House lawn. That's the scrap we're going to have on the lawn. It's the lawn, right? Cuz the garden is no longer. That's now a. Yeah, but there's a
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B
big hole where half the White House used to be. So I don't know, are they putting
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A
it there in the ballroom, quote, unquote. So anyway, they added that and Dana White said the bout was prompted by Trump. He said, about an hour ago, the President leans over to me and says, why is Derrick Lewis not on the White House card? And I said, hold on, Mr. President. I stepped away. I called Derek Lewis and I said, Derek, the President just asked why you're not on the card. Do you want to fight on the White House card? And he said, of course. Andrew, is he. Is Derrick Lewis a Trump guy?
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B
Yeah, he's a Trump guy. Trump supporter. He's like the tail end of his career. I think he has the most knockouts. Yeah, the pointy end of his career.
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A
His career. Andrew Tate and Trump and Rogan were all there together and interacting. Also Guy Fieri. What's going on? What's going on? Guy Fieri. Careful. What are we doing? Fist bumping. Andrew Tate. What did you just say?
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B
Said Flavortown's a red state.
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A
Damn. He's really gerrymandering it. Donkey sauce. I don't know. You just gotta say it every time. The. You had a funny idea in here, Brady, because Andrew Tate, Trump and Rogan, you said what was the worst blunt rotation of the weekend? What are our options?
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B
So you have Tate, Trump and Rogan together with Guy Fieri. Let's throw him in. You know, let's make it a five man rotation.
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A
Sure.
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B
Tweet came in. This was sent to me over the weekend from at Curry Hicksage. The worst blunt rotate, the nightmare blunt rotation of the weekend. Also at the Savannah Bananas game in Chapel Hill, it was the founder of the Savannah Bananas, Jesse Cole, standing there talking to Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson.
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A
Oh, boy. Yeah.
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B
Or number three, your third option is Justin Trudeau dressed as a young frat boy. Katy Perry and their photographer who followed them everywhere to take photographs of them on their Coachella trip.
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I mean, really, he looked like, I'm just a guy, just in a white
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B
T shirt and Jeans, man.
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A
Got my backwards hat. I'm just chilling with my super hot girlfriend.
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B
Get a paper route. My skateboard.
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A
Yeah, these are all. These are all bad. I think I would go with the Belichick Jordan, Savannah Bananas thing because it's too many dynamics at play. And if I'm high, allegedly, in this situation, the dynamic between the two of them would be. Would really stand out in a. In a weird way for me. I wouldn't be able to watch them touching. I don't think I'd like it mixed with the baseball that's happening, but not really base. It's like the baseball that's shout out. Monet Davis, though. Was that the game? Monet Davis made her debut for the Bananas.
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B
I don't believe. I think that was a separate game because she's with the new team, the Indianapolis Clowns, in the Banana Ball league, named after the old Negro league franchise. The Indianapolis Clowns.
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I really love that.
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Yeah, it's the one Hank Aaron played for.
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Oh, that's sick. Oh, I should mention, Trump entered the arena to Kid Rock.
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So we used to have Hail to the Chief.
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Yeah, we literally have a song for this, but that would require too much, I guess, respect. Now was this. Moments after moments before it was announced that these marathon peace talks had fallen through. What are you doing at a ufc?
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Aren't.
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Don't. Didn't you start a bunch of shit? You should probably go out there and finish. What are we. Am I nuts? He's got stuff to do. Yeah, that's best. That's best. We could just leave it. I just, like, I don't. Cool. Hope everybody had a good time.
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Well, they sent J.D. vance for all the boring stuff. He goes to the fucking fights.
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I mean. Okay, so. And I also. Rogan, who's been starting to do the whole, like, whoa, this isn't at all what he promised. It's like. Well, did you. Did you say anything in person? No. Let's wrap this up. Let's take a break. Let's take a break before I get myself in some trouble. I'm exhausted. This is exhaust. Every day having to wake up and being like, what's going on with that straight A whore moose? I don't love this. I don't love the way this feels. And I also don't love the way people are like, don't talk about. It's hard. I'm trying my hardest to not talk about any of the stuff, but it's. It. Doesn't it feel bad? Yeah. Great. So let's take a let's take a break and then here's what we're going to do. On the other side of this break, Chris is going to tell us what we can distract ourselves with, what we can watch if we wanted to dive in on the world of sports this week. So this is casual to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Etsy or DX, DSW store or DSW.com today DSW. Let us surprise you. Okay, we're back real quick. Before we let you guys go, Chris does a great job of, of looking at all of the things across the wide world of sports that we could watch this week and highlight some of the, the best ones and tells you where to find him in case you want to, I don't know, watch some sports this week. So Chris, what do we got first this week?
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Well, the first thing is the AFL Carlton are playing against their arch rival Collingwood this week. I wanted to bring up this game because we are almost at the quarter point of the AFL season. We brought it up before the first game, before Carlton's first game when the season began. And there is a very, very good reason why we have not spoken about football since Carlton's very first game. Katie, they fucking suck.
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Okay. I was gonna say it's because they're doing well and you don't want to jinx it.
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Oh, that would be fantastic if that was the case. No, no, no. They fucking suck. They, up until last weekend's game, they've been up at halftime in every game and then in the third quarter just absolutely fall away. They are, I think maybe the best first quarter team in the entire league this season. And the third and fourth quarter, historically bad. Something happens at halftime, don't know what, but it's not going well. We've had some emails asking me if I'm okay because of how bad they're playing. It's, it's, it's tough.
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You should probably answer one of them, just start getting worried just so they know you're not.
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It's tough. So when we had the emailer at the beginning of the season trying to recruit you to Fremantle, that's, you know, probably the better way to go. They're second on the ladder at the moment, so probably go for them rather than Carlton, who's 16th. Only one win from the first five games, but Carlton play the route rivals Collingwood. As I mentioned, it could be bad, but the games aren't. On Thursday, April 16th at 5:30am Eastern
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on S2 30 on FS2.
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Guess what? I'm not waking up to watch it at this time. I am. I, I record like I can't do it. I can't wake up live when I have children to watch this show. I watch it on delay.
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How's Jagger Smith?
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He's already been nominated for the rookie of the year award. Essentially each round, whoever's the best performing first year player or player with less than X amount of games gets nominated. And all those nominees get put into a pool at the end and then the winner is chosen amongst the people who have been nominated. And so he has been one of the best performing rookies so far throughout the season.
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A bright spot, you would say on what's otherwise.
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A our other rookie or other first year player, Harry Dean is. Has also been fantastic. Outside of our two first year players though. Yeah, not good.
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Which goes to show that it's the team that sucks. If you're new here, you can be good. But as soon as you've been here long enough, we'll. We'll beat it right out of you. If not by the end of the season at the half, we'll do it in the halftime. Maybe they should stop eating lobster rolls and poke bowls.
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If only that was the fix that would be. That would be great. But saying it, saying this, it's been a terrible season, but if we beat Collingwood, sort of all is forgiven because that's fair enough. I've given up on making the playoffs.
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This is all about. This is your playoffs. Beating those fucking scum team heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, what else can we watch?
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Next thing is the women's college gymnastics semifinals. We've got an email here from Kim who writes in and says hi, Katie, Isabella, Chris and Brady. My name's Kim and I have a suggestion for what to watch this week. The college gymnastics semifinals and finals. I went to Maryland Go camps.
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What up, Kim?
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But I've lived in Georgia for the last 10 years and a couple of years ago I started taking my daughter to some gym dog meets. They are so much fun that this year we decided to get season tickets. And they have had a great season and have made it to the semifinals. The meets this week each have four teams competing. So there's always something going on and they are so interesting to watch. These young women are incredibly talented and clearly have so much fun. For anyone who enjoys watching gymnastics during the Olympics, you should 100% watch these meets this week. Love you. Mean it. Go Dawgs. So the semi finals will be held on Thursday, April 16th. The first semi final will be at 4:30pm Eastern. The second one will be at 9:00pm Eastern. They are both on ESPN2. The eight teams remaining in the field, LSU, Stanford, Florida, Georgia. That's from the first semi final. And then Arkansas, UCLA, Minnesota and Oklahoma in the second semi final. And then the top two teams from each of those semi finals will advance to the four on the floor final on April 18, 2026. I don't know why put 2026 in. That would be a long way to wait.
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2027, don't worry, it's not next year. It is this year.
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And that'll be on abc.
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And Jordan Chiles is still. Yes. Gymnastics in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she will be. I would assume we would see. I don't know the intricacies of how that works. I didn't mean to throw you for a loop there, but there will be names. You know, these are fun. The women's college gymnastics is really fun to watch and this is the time to do it. So it's a great.
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I've taken my daughters in College park and it's just a. A fantastic time. Like the interactivity, you're just right on top of it. You're right there watching them. Like the athletes will interact with the kids from the crowd. It's fantastic.
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Yeah, it's a blast. So that's a fun one. I like that one. What else, Chris?
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Boston marathon next Monday, April 20th begins on ESPN2 at 9am Eastern. I think some local Boston channels have coverage starting at 4:30, but ESPN, it just like. You know what, we'll just, we'll wait till nine to start our coverage.
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I mean, how much of the marathon you actually have to watch on tv? You know, it's like you just want to see kind of the end. I don't know. Is that. Yeah, it's. But then again, I think about that with, with racing sometimes where I'm like, who's watching the. In between? But it's. Look, I don't mean to. Yuck anybody's. Yum. Yeah.
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Tigers.
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By the way, I. Oh, wait.
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What I'm saying the Tigers are the home game for the Red Sox since those two go hand in hand on Patriots Day.
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Ah, yeah. Because the song stocks play right after that. I think that start time is at like 11 something. One of the best days in Boston. I know. Obviously, a couple years ago. I don't. Don't even say how many because it's going to be a lot more than I think. But a, A tragedy occurred at the Boston Marathon which has since, of course, updated the tone. But the day in general is in Boston has always been one that, like, I don't know, I associate directly with the city where it's. We're all kind of in on the marathon and then we're all kind of going to the. The Sox Game. And it's one of my favorite days in Boston when everybody kind of comes together. And I remember being a kid and going to Hopkinton and being on the route and watching people run by, just having a blast and handing out orange slices and stuff. I love the marathon. So that's next Monday, which feels like it breaks the rules of what we can watch. We want to watch sports this week, but technically there's no other way you could talk about Tuesday morning. Yeah, that's right. So technically it is a week within a week, so that counts. But just in case, do you have a fourth one ready, too?
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13 years ago, by the way.
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Oh, my God. Really? I was gonna say 1013.
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It's 2013.
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Damn. All right.
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There's one other thing I wanted to highlight because we got an email from. I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly. Divya D I V Y A who says hi, Katie and the casualties. I was at the airport earlier today and saw a group of college kids wearing wed West Point orienteering jackets. Who knew that this was a collegiate level sport? I need to know what orienteering college playoffs and what the collegiate season for orienteering looks like now. Love you mean it. I did some digging. This is a West Point specific thing. So there is a West Point orienteering event that will be this week, April 18th. I think it's like a yearly event that they have for people within the West Point Orienteering Club. It's not available to stream anywhere or anything like that. So it's like. That's why it's like a fourth submission for the what to watch this week.
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I can't watch it unless you're gonna go there.
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Could you maybe you can go and check it out and cheer on West Point.
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Okay. Somehow, huh?
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But I know people like to know what's happening in the world of orienteering, so I wanted to try and get everyone updated on the latest.
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Well, yeah, and I don't want to assume, but I feel like West Point would be good at orienteering because that feels like part of the training. Whatever they do up there, the T. If they're going to teach you stuff, one of the things they'll probably teach is how to figure out where you are and get out of there. It feels like a 101.
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The entire middle of saving Private Ryan was just orienteering.
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Exactly. I mean, I've never been. I've been to West Point. I won, I believe, nationals gold at West Point one.
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Wow. When I was probably, maybe could have been.
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I can't probably 11 years old, but I do. I've been to 13 years ago for that. That's it. Yes, exactly that same time. So. Okay, West Point orienteering, let's find that merch. I'm gonna mark that for myself.
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That would be cool.
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I could wear a West Point orienteering jacket. I'm starting to do that. You know, it's spring, so I'm starting to, like, clean out my closet, you know, because I am like, everything I own, I hate or have worn a billion times already. And I think my next, next evolution of my style is going to be incorporating niche sports merch from around the sports world. You know, unexpected sports merch. So be on the lookout for that. Thank you guys so much for listening to casuals. That's it for today's episode. We got another one coming for you later in the week that'll drop on Thursday. Audio and video on our YouTube page on Friday. The video for this will be out on Wednesday. Don't forget if you want to see us, but honestly, Isabella's not here, so it's like you don't even really have to. It's just. It's just me and two dudes staring at each other. So it's nothing too crazy, but whatever floats your boat. I know the kids love to watch a. A podcast. Anyway, that's it. If you want to reach out to us, don't forget CasualsWithKatienolan gmail.com 646-801-0043 Save it in your phone. That's our voicemail number. And CasualsThePodcast is IG and TikTok. We will see you later in the week. We love you. We mean it. Bye.
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