D (2:24)

But he's still been relentlessly sending emails and slacks all morning even though he's on vacation.

B (2:30)

We love and we love that. We love a working vacation. And we expected nothing less from Britney.

D (2:35)

Exactly.

B (2:36)

Okay, so we've got a bunch of stuff to get you today. First, I always have to tell you, you can email us casualswithkatienolanmail.com you can use that to ask us questions. You can use that to tell us something you think we missed you. You can correct us on something. But that's rare because we get everything right all the time. You can also do that in a voicemail form if you want to hear your voice on this here podcast, 646-801-0043 and on IG and TikTok, if you're more of a I'll hop in the comments and say some stuff that's at Casuals, the podcast. Although what's going on with TikTok? Isabella, you're my youth court. You're my youth coordinator. Did they get bought up by like, are they nefarious now? Are we abandoning Tik Tok?

C (3:15)

Are we supposed to. I didn't hear.

B (3:17)

I don't know. I thought I heard it. Like I changed hands again in a way that was alarming, you know, because you got to keep your finger on the pulse of this stuff because now it's like now that's where your media is coming from. And if you're trust, it's just everything. Nothing's easy anymore. We have to know everything about everything now.

C (3:34)

I know sometimes I wish I didn't go on tick tock because it's so hard to leave. They make it so hard to leave.

B (3:40)

I know. It really does fill a hole of like, let me check in, just see the pulse of what everybody's kind of yapping about. Let me check in on what both insane sides of the Baldoni whatever the hell lawsuit. A nightmare. I think I've given up. I think I've tapped out on that. But if I haven't, we will have an update for you later in the show. We'll see if we have time for it today. Here's the run of show we're going to talk about. We're going to do some housekeeping. Emails, voicemails. We're going to talk about the fact that the Patriots are going back to the Super Bowl. Seahawks, I mean, against the Seahawks, which I don't love. I really don't want to fight, my dear Friend, Mina Kimes. But I will if I have to. Same with you, Kenny Maine. Don't step to me. Don't you step to me. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the guy who climbs stuff without any equipment. He did it to a building. Okay. And we'll get into. Hopefully we get to Trinity, Rodman and Super bowl halftime update stuff. So lots to get to. Let's just start here with these emails and stuff. Right. Let's go to an email from Caitlyn. Chris.

D (4:40)

Yeah. Caitlin says hello. Casualties. A quick update regarding LinkedIn athletes. Fernando Mendoza has officially declared himself hashtag open to work on LinkedIn. I type emails for a living, so I don't think we're competing for the same roles, but at the same time, the market is kind of rough right now, so I kind of wish he would just butt out. Apparently you can search professional athlete roles on LinkedIn. Sure. Anyway, love you guys. So Fernando Mendoza is now open for work. He also posted three days ago. Let's get to work. I'm humbled to announce that I am officially declaring for the 2026 NFL Draft.

B (5:13)

In case anyone didn't know, listen, I've said this before. I'm not on LinkedIn because I always thought, like, in certain positions, the respectful thing to do is to go, yeah, I don't use this. This is not how I move in my industry. Come to find out, maybe this is why I haven't been popping off in Jobville, because even athletes are like, yeah, I'll just declare myself open to work. Second thing I'll say is that graphic of the picture of him that says hashtag open to work on the side of it will be everywhere the second he makes a mistake in the NFL.

D (5:44)

Good point.

B (5:45)

You have to be careful. But, you know, whatever. I love it. He's moving like a dork. But if I were a desk job person, I would feel exactly like Caitlyn here and I'd be like, get out, man. The job market's weird. People are applying. You have to apply for stuff you're way overqualified for. So it's like if this. What if Fernando Mendoza takes a job that Caitlyn needs and. And we can't have that. So get out of there, athletes.

C (6:07)

We flipping can't.

B (6:09)

We flipping can't. How dare you. Oh, a voicemail. I like when it's a voicemail because then Chris doesn't have to read it and we get to hear from you guys. We have a voicemail from Kate from Portland.

E (6:19)

I'm Calling as your Beckham Peltz consultant. Boots on the ground. Some important context that you're missing from the very funny bit about how over the top the Beckham family is and how much attention, you know, to people in Hollywood continue to need about family. Nicholas dad is a billionaire. He is close friends with Trump, hosted a fundraiser in their home. He introduced Trump to Elon Musk. He is the reason those two got connected. He is also friends and business partners with Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein.

B (7:04)

Oh, my God.

E (7:06)

As hilarious as all of the the takes are on the Beckham, I am fully on their side for wanting to sabotage this relationship at all costs because who would want your family emerged with all of that? So Teen Posh forever. And I love you and I mean it.

B (7:29)

Love you and I mean it too, Kate. This is like I said, Jay Jordan and I was that last episode. Yeah, we're talking about this drama between the Nicola Peltz and. And Brooklyn Beckham. And Brooklyn Beckham. That's his name. I forgot. It's just I couldn't picture the tattoo on David's. The small of David's back. That's all you were thinking about? I mean, I've blocked it out. We were talking about it and I was like, I don't know enough about the other half of this. All I've hear from perusing Reddit or whatever is that Nicola Peltz is not well liked either. And yeah, this is probably. But most of this is probably why all those names mentioned. There are the types of names that make you go like, just when you.

D (8:10)

Thought she was done, she was like. And then also Jeffrey Epstein and then.

B (8:13)

Also business partners with Epstein and Weinstein and he introduced Trump to Eli. Like, that is like a butterfly effect in the history of the world you trace back to. Like, if only these two didn't meet it, I probably wouldn't have helped much, honestly. But yeah, look, this sounds like one of those stories where everyone in it sucks, which at a time like this, where everything's really intense, it can. You can lose the fun of that. But it. It's kind of like fun to root for the evil that isn't the bad, that isn't as evil. Does that make sense? So it's like, yeah, maybe Posh Spice and David Beckham are have. I'm not diagnosing them, but like, maybe they have tinges of a narcissistic personality disorder situation. May. But at least that we know we aren't dropping a list of names here of people that they're friends and business partners with that is like a murderer's row of, like, the bad guy. When the comic books do the bad guy movies, that's that. So everything's exhausting and even the fun thing isn't fun because of the exhausting of the thing. So, yeah, we'll be. We can be Team Beckham. If you're listening to this and you're like, I happen to know a thing about Team Beckham you don't know. I'm boots on the ground on that side, call in and let us know. We, as a podcast, are happy to change sides of this race. Rich person argument with the wind freely as we gain more information. So I guess for now, if anybody asks you, dear listener, what side this podcast falls on, I guess we are tentatively on Posh Spice's side.

C (9:45)

I did see on the sports gossip show, they're saying, like, I think Brooklyn Beckham is just in his Saturn return because he's entering 27.

B (9:53)

Okay.

C (9:54)

And which, Chris, if you don't know, they say Saturn return, It's usually like 27 to 30. And it's supposed to be the time where you kind of just like, go through a lot, reflect on your life kind of thing.

D (10:07)

Okay.

C (10:08)

So I don't know, maybe that's what it is.

B (10:10)

Is that what that is? Because that happened to me.

C (10:13)

Yeah. People always say, yeah, so you go through. You kind of go through, like, this whole thing of, like, getting back to the basics of, like, life of, like, okay, what really matters to me.

B (10:22)

Yeah, figure it out, Brooklyn Beckham. Figure it out. You know, like, take stock of what's in your life and who's in your life and who you want to be and realize that you're living your life and. And get out there and live the life you want. I don't know. They might. I think we just.

C (10:36)

Once again, listeners, if you have intel of something else, tell us.

B (10:39)

Tell us, because we're out here flying blind. Because, listen, like I said that back that the Blake Lively text drama, this has been a through line for this whole podcast since we started a year ago, was like, it's so you can. You can find the community that agrees with what you think is happening. They are out there and they are pass passionate and they're loud. And it's crazy that both sides think they're vindicated by the new release of these text messages. It's just like there is. The information on the Internet is scarier than ever. You have to stay, keep your wits about you, stay on top of it, and you have to Stop yourself and go. I've been scrolling for too long. I have to put my phone down. We got this, you guys. We got to protect our minds from whatever the hell these algorithms are doing to our brains. It's not good. You, especially Chris. You're always doom scrolling on social media, okay?

D (11:23)

You gotta stop hours and hours a.

B (11:24)

Day, hours and after hours a day. You've got gotta. We gotta protect Chris from. If you're new here, Chris isn't on social media, so that's just us making fun of him for. For that. I mean, the thing that was all you want, the thing that was all over social media this weekend, we're not even going to touch because I fear my friends are too closely involved in it and I don't want to talk about it. Okay? So if you're here to talk heated rivalry, empty netters, I think we're going to take a day before we address that because I think I know too much and I don't know what to say and what not to say. But I do have a strong opinion and potentially will share it at some point. Let's do one more email before we head to the rest of this podcast. Chris, this one from August.

D (12:03)

Yes, August says hi y'.

B (12:04)

All.

D (12:04)

I love the question on Thursday's POD about what sporting event you'd bring someone newly immigrated to the US to. I'd second an NWSL game or a PWHL game. Something I've come to love as a Seattle women's sports fan is how willing everyone around me is to answer the questions folks ask out loud. There's nothing like hearing folks new to the game chat about XYZ call happened and someone near them kindly explaining the rule never in like a shame based way. The vibe is always, I want you to enjoy your time here. I want to and I want to help you understand.

B (12:33)

Yeah, I totally agree with that. Nwsl, pwhl, women's sports in general. And this is not to say this isn't true of men's sports. I'm sure these moments also happen at men's sports. And I'm sure if I racked my brain I'd find them and they've happened to me. It's just it happens more often. It is more likely the definition fault reaction when you ask a question at a women's sporting event that you're greeted sort of with an understanding and a welcoming as opposed to like a why are you here then? Because in sometimes it men's sports, sometimes again and I think people are working on it but sometimes people are very like, girl doesn't even know what off sides is. She's only here because she thinks the players are hot. Where you're like, that's not the case. I just. You don't know what offsides is either. So let's be honest with each other. It's a very confusing concept and it varies from sport to sport. So what if you just said, yeah, dude, common mistake. Here's how I think it works. But who knows? Like, that's the vibe you get from. From women's sports and the. They're doing that thing now where they're playing. They're, like, going on tour to cities that might be the next city that they could put a franchise in, and they're bringing the franchises they have and, like, putting on the games to see the reaction. And the reaction's been great. And also, smartly, women's hockey's leaning into the heated rivalry and basically going, we have this all the time. This is pretty common in our sport. So if you're into it, come check it out. So I love that. So, yeah, good, good suggestions from the listeners. If you've got another place that you would recommend, write in or leave us a voicemail or, you know, stand outside of our apartments. I don't know what to tell you. Get the information to us. Just.

C (14:11)

No, don't do that.

B (14:12)

Just Isabella's. Just stand outside of Isabella's apartment, only with a boombox.

C (14:15)

Like, be cute with it.

B (14:17)

Damn, what an old reference for our young, for our Gen Z correspondent. I love that, though. I. She's an old soul. She can't help it. She looks like Ashley Spinelli today. She got a hat on. She's taking me back to my roots. How was the snow where everybody is. Isabella, are you, like, snowed in? Snowed in?

C (14:34)

I'm snowed in. Like, I finally just, like, shoveled the snow around my car, like, fully up to, like, my knees kind of thing, so. Oh, my God, the roads look better. Ish. But getting my car out was kind of tough.

B (14:47)

That sounds like a nightmare. Chris, did it snow a lot there?

D (14:50)

It did. It was supposed to get a little bit more icy than it did, so it wasn't as bad as everyone was sort of predicting earlier on in the weekend, which is nice. We were expecting a lot of heavy rain. We're expecting a lot of power outages that hadn't happened. That didn't happen, which was nice. Although the roads are still a bit dodgy because we don't have the same infrastructure in North Carolina. As some of the northern states do. And it also means daycare is closed for the next two days. And so I have the kids on my own because my wife is flying out to LA today for the week, so.

B (15:22)

Oh, no.

D (15:23)

It's sort of all happening.

B (15:24)

Mr.

A (15:25)

Mom.

B (15:25)

Is that what that movie was called? When he's all alone, kids. And it's. Or the upcoming Nate Bargets Ev. I forget what it's called. Trophy a dad or something.

D (15:34)

Sure.

B (15:34)

Okay, so you've got. So at any moment, you might have to go. We should probably state that as.

D (15:38)

Yeah, my son. I'm keeping an eye on my son, who's still napping.

B (15:42)

He's just.

D (15:42)

He's just sleeping there. Look at that.

B (15:44)

Good nap. Jealous. I'm jealous.

D (15:46)

I know.

B (15:48)

They have no idea. They have no idea how good they have it, those babies.

D (15:52)

And then my daughters. My daughter's downstairs watching a movie, so at any moment she could just come in and ask for some more food or something. I don't know.

B (15:58)

Oh, it'll be like that moment during the pandemic when the little girl, like, wandered into the dad's.

C (16:03)

Remember that?

B (16:03)

And then you see the mom come whipping around the corner. She's like, no, no, no, no.

D (16:06)

That was so funny.

B (16:09)

So funny. That was the, like, the first really funny instant. And then there were the unfunny ones where it was like, oh, this guy was tugging on it during a work zoom meeting. And you were like, what the. Yeah, it was like every chapter. Of all the things that could go wrong when working from home, obviously one very cute and one absolutely disgusting. Yeah, very disgusting. Scary, illegal. Is he still working?

C (16:31)

I don't know.

D (16:32)

Wouldn't have thought.

B (16:33)

So we're gonna take a break while I Google it. And then when we come back, we'll talk about the weather a little bit more and how much it affected a football game that really, really mattered to me. We'll take a quick break and when we come back, all the sports stuff. Hold on. We'll be right back.

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D (20:13)

Hey, your New England. They did it.

C (20:16)

They did it.

B (20:17)

I mean it sure didn't feel like it the whole way through. Chris, you're also a pates fan. I don't know how you felt, but I was not comfortable throughout this game.

D (20:27)

No, neither because of how the game was playing out and also because it felt like we were teetering on the brink of losing power at any moment. Now. Internet went out probably three or four times throughout the game. So there was sort of double nervous energy from, from me throughout the game.

B (20:43)

That's, that's really funny. That would almost maybe help me like go like that doesn't matter. The game doesn't matter. We need to make sure we have power. We've got a lot of stuff. We have to. But that explains why in the group text last night, Brady, who is on vacation, said, is no one gonna say anything? And then Chris was like, I don't think the game, the game isn't over.

C (21:01)

Where I am.

B (21:02)

I don't know how far behind I am. I lost my Internet. So we. And then eventually figured out that The Patriots won. 10, 7, 10 7. A low scoring game. First half, a sunny day. A sunny, beautiful day in Denver. And as anybody who's ever been there knows that can change in a moment. And it did. The second half, you could not see the Patriots. It was. They were wearing all white and in the snow it was impossible to see them. Dan was like, this is good. They're going to pick off like there's going to be an interception. There's going to be a turnover. They can't see you. And I was like, yes, but also Drake can't see them. So our quarterback needing to throw the ball. You really can't see your receivers. And so I think Drake may threw for something like 80 something yards, like 86 yards. Most of it was. He did a lot on the ground rushing for first downs, which we love and are not used to as Patriots fans, because Tom Brady never really did that. It wasn't really one of his strengths. The big play everybody's talking about was in the second quarter. Again, to paint the picture. It was sunny at this time. Okay, Denver was up. Or were they tied at that point? Seven seven. They were either up seven nothing.

D (22:17)

They were up seven nothing.

B (22:18)

That's right. And they. It was fourth and one. So it was fourth down. They had one yard to go. It would have been a chip shot field goal. They were, I believe, at the Patriots like 11 or something. It was like a. Would have been an easy field goal and instead Sean Payton decided to go for it. They do not get the first down and. And that came back to bite them in the ass. If they had just kicked that field goal, they would have been up 10 nothing. And then the game, if it went exactly how it went otherwise, would have had to go to overtime with both teams tied at 10 instead, because they didn't convert. The Patriots win 10, 7. And that is the difference. The kickers. Not a good game for kickers. We've had a couple games this year where we're like, wow, it's all about the kickers. Not this one. They were what, one for five?

D (23:06)

One for five.

B (23:08)

Yeah. So not. Not great.

D (23:10)

But one of them was Borregales attempting a, what, 63 yarder in the snow. It was never going to work.

B (23:18)

Right. And it didn't.

D (23:19)

But they tried it.

B (23:20)

It didn't. I was. I was cycling through my good luck things. At one point. Not watching was really helpful. So I was. During the field goal attempt, I went to the bathroom, but of course left the door open and listened. And. And he missed it. And so then I was like, cool, I can just sit and watch the rest of the game. I was trying everything I could because that game had me so stressed out. It was just like nothing. And then once the snow comes and introduces this whole, you know, everything's now, everything's in flux now. Everything's on the table now. Anything can happen. Granted, they were playing against Jarrett Stidham, a backup quarterback, because Denver's quarterback, Bo Nix hurt himself in the second to last play of the last game. So the world was like, oh, Patriots got this Patriots by a million. And I was like, I don't know, man. I have to answer phone calls on Monday live on the radio regardless. So I'm not going to talk a huge game here. And Say the Patriots are going to absolutely smoke them. Anything can happen. Bo Nicks was not necessarily the biggest strength of Denver in the first place, so losing him to me didn't immediately shift everything in our favor. And they made us sweat it out. The Patriots did, but there was the interception. That was great. Christian Gonzalez had a pick in the fourth quarter, and then Drake May rushed for the first down to seal the win. It was big. That's Mike vrabel getting a perfect 90 road record on the season. That's. They haven't lost a game on the road. Incredible. Hard to do.

C (24:49)

This is New England this entire season.

B (24:51)

Yeah. They didn't lose on the road. Yeah. Pretty amazing. New England's first ever playoff win in Denver, as well as somebody who was there for one of the losses, an AFC Championship game. Gronk was open in the end zone, and I didn't hit him. And then I had to hang out with Denver fans afterwards. They were fine. You know, they're not like. It's not like Yankee fans. They weren't, like, screaming at me. It just sucked to have lost and to be there for it. Patriots first super bowl appearance now since 2018, and it's a rematch of Isabella. Do you know anything about the last time the Patriots faced the Seahawks in a Super Bowl?

C (25:26)

No.

B (25:29)

Now, I think we could have some real fun with this. We could have some real fun with this. I'm afraid to do interesting noises that we. We have two weeks until the actual game, so I think maybe Chris. I'm, like, making eyes at Chris. We hold off on any of the actual stuff.

C (25:43)

Got it.

B (25:43)

So that we can show it to her in a way that we produce to sort of handle how it goes. But there was. These two teams have faced off recently as Isabella, and it was very intense. It was one of the most entertaining super bowl endings that we've had in a while. That's the thing. People hate the Patriots. Okay, wait, who won in that? I don't know if I'm ready to tell you, but the Patriots have. People hate them. People hate us because they ain't us.

C (26:10)

Is it because you guys are like. Are you guys like the Dodgers in football? Is it like that? Less in the sense that you guys always win?

B (26:16)

The winning. Yes. Less about, like, the stealing people from every team.

C (26:20)

Yeah.

B (26:20)

Amassing a super team. But yes, they. The Patriots did a lot of winning. They had sort of two runs of, like, this dynasty with Tom Brady. So, like, they won three Super Bowls in, like, the early 2000s, and then they won three Super Bowls in the. In, like the teens, and they're. They're good and people hate. I will say when they're just that. Yes. And when they're in the super bowl, they've given you entertaining Super Bowls. There was a dud. There was a dud. The. The one that I. The one the Patriots won that my dad got to see in person because he went to the Minnesota super bowl against the Eagles and watched him lose. And then we got him to the Rams super bowl in Atlanta, and It was like 13, three. And it was a very boring game. That was the only. Dude. Okay. Usually the Patriots give you an exciting super bowl. And so I know everyone's annoyed that we're back in a big way during what was supposed to be a rebuild, and I get why that would be annoying, but I think it's going to be exciting. I think it's going to be good.

D (27:24)

By the way, you said we. That the Patriots and the Seahawks faced off. Faced off against each other in a Super bowl recently. It was 11 years ago. I had the same thought as you where I'm like, this again. This just happened. And then I looked at the date. I'm like, that was 11 years ago.

B (27:39)

It wasn't 11 years ago. That's so silly. Absolutely foolish. Yeah, it was recent. It was. It was. It just happened.

D (27:48)

Yeah. In my mind.

B (27:49)

Fresh. In our minds, five.

D (27:50)

Five years.

B (27:51)

Having it. Honestly, this is where my. As a sports fan, if you go name every super bowl since that one, I go, I couldn't because I would have thought there was like five of them. I didn't think that there was that many. But that's.

C (28:04)

Yes.

B (28:04)

We'll refresh everyone's memory on what happened there with Isabella. If you've. If while you're listening to this, you go, oh, I have the best idea for them. Go ahead and shoot us an email. Casuals with kadenolan gmail.com we got a slow play for Isabella and spend these next two weeks sort of giving her the proper context to understand the Super Bowl. I am bummed. Isabella, you're not coming to the Super Bowl.

C (28:25)

I know. Oh, I wish I was coming.

B (28:27)

I think. I think what we all need to just accept is that, like, we're a new show. We're working our way back in. Last year, we started at the Super Bowl. That was our, like, first episode. And then now it's only our technically, like, second year of this and basically first year covering a season. I think by the next time, we'll be able to bring you But I'm, like, bummed of all the ways that I could just show you the madness around this game and just, I don't know, walk you around Radio Row and go look at the industry.

C (28:58)

Still, every time you guys talk about Radio Row, I still can't fully comprehend it.

B (29:03)

Now we're gonna have to do some sort of a. Maybe we'll record some footage and send it over.

C (29:08)

Isabella, this is the day in the life at radio.

B (29:11)

Yeah, I'll make daily TikTok content, but just for you. Okay. Hi, Isabella. Get ready with me for a day at radio.

C (29:18)

Perfectly fine.

B (29:19)

First, you've got to prepare yourself for the smell of nacho cheese. Okay, so is that everything about that game? I feel like. Did you see Mac Hollins? Mac Hollins is a receiver who's been a bunch of places, but he's with the Patriots now. He shows up. Isabelle, I think we've talked about him before. He shows up to games barefoot. Sometimes he'll show up. I don't think he wears shoes in general in life, but he also made, like, that mental health awareness T shirt that he came in once this week. He showed up with three bottles, glass bottles, on his fingers, like from the movie. Is the movie called Warriors?

D (29:54)

Warriors, yeah.

B (29:55)

And he was, like, clanging them together, and it was. It was a lot. And then in the huddle on the field, watching him, like, he's dancing. He's like, they're the Drake. May is, like, telling everybody the play or whatever happens in a huddle, and he's, like, rapping and dancing to a beat in his head. And I'm like, this guy is out of his mind in the best way. I think he's just, like, on his own planet. And sometimes you need a guy like that. Sometimes you need a guy who's like, yeah, dude, I'm Vibes. I'm Vibes based.

C (30:27)

He's the. Like, the personality hire.

B (30:30)

Yeah. Yes. Yes, that exactly is it. And he, like, look, he didn't play a ton of snaps, but when he did, he came up big.

C (30:36)

So I'm looking at Matt Collins bottles, and I'm not getting anything.

B (30:40)

Mac Hollins, I think, is where the issue is happening. It's Matt and then a Space and then Hollands.

C (30:46)

But look, you know what I searched before? That was Matt Collins. And I was like, I can't find this man.

B (30:52)

And this is why we have you to remind us, to a casual fan, to slow down between the first name and the last name, because it could have been any of those names that you said. But it is Mac.

C (31:02)

Oh, yeah.

B (31:03)

Hollands big bottles. And he was just clinging them, clinging them together. So I don't know if that intimidated people.

C (31:10)

I don't know. I don't know.

D (31:11)

It's the worst.

B (31:12)

Come out and flip. It was also used in a rap song, but it wasn't Warriors. That was East Siders Come out and Play. What song was that?

D (31:22)

I don't know.

C (31:22)

Oh, I know that intro, but I don't remember.

B (31:24)

Right. And that. That was referencing Warriors. So it's a Warriors reference.

C (31:28)

Got it. Got it.

B (31:29)

But. All right, so Drake may 23 years old. Second youngest starting quarterback in super bowl history. The youngest was Dan Marino. He was 23 in 1984. And the Super bowl, as a reminder, is February 8th, and they will be facing the Seahawks because the Seahawks beat the Rams. Isabella, who did you pick in this game?

C (31:49)

I picked the Rams.

B (31:50)

Oh, my God. I thought.

C (31:52)

But honestly, I'm okay with the turnout because a part of me was like, oh, the Seahawks sound like they've been doing really well. You know, they were my defense on Fantasy. I have some love.

B (32:01)

And you love Kenny Main.

C (32:03)

I love Kenny Main. I also love Mina Kimes. Who doesn't, sweetie pie?

B (32:06)

Who doesn't? I hate them both. Now I have to hate them for two weeks. I believe we have time with Mina lined up at Radio Row, and I'm listen, this changes the nature of the entire trip. I've gone from being just a lady who was making her way back to her first super bowl after a couple years of being away from the game, and now so are the Patriots. And now my email is like, are you free on Wednesday? Are you free on Thursday? We'd like you to book the show. We want you to come by for this show. And now all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, it's too much. I'm overwhelmed.

A (32:37)

Is.

B (32:38)

I just wish I could go and have nothing to do with these teams. I'm not going to the game. I'll be home before the game. Super Bowls are made to be watched at home. I stand by that take. Or with friends at a party. But going to the game, it's just not worth it. But anyway. The Seahawks beat the Rams 31, 27. This was a. This game was a little bit different offensively than the first game of the day. Lots of points scored between them. Puka had some incredible catches. Isabella, did you get to watch any of this?

C (33:05)

No, I didn't.

B (33:06)

It was. Puka had a really good game. He caught a lot of balls. It didn't he does catch the balls. He really does. He really does. And it was. You know, I've mentioned before, Dan's a Niners fan. Seahawks, Rams, obviously, he hates both of those teams. They're in his division. He wants neither of them to play for a Super bowl in his home stadium, the 49ers stadium. Oh, yeah. But he was. He was like, I'm rooting for the Rams in this game. And it's. It was a tough. He was so uncomfortable. Like, Puka would make a catch and he would go, this guy rules to be mad. But he was like, this is actually kind of. He's really fun to root for. I will never do it again. But in this moment, he was very fun to root for. Sean McVeigh, the coach of the Rams, decided to go for it on fourth and fourth, the Seattle Six, when they were down by four with under five remaining. They didn't convert that into a first down. That was a thing people are talking about quite a bit. I don't know. This just felt like a fun shootout of a game. Matthew Stafford, what a season he had. We, coming into this season, we're like, is that really going to be their starting quarterback? Like, is he going to be okay? And he was. He had an incredible season. He looked like the MVP last night to me. I don't know who it's going to end up being, but what a season for him. This was his 17th season, I believe, in the NFL. He's been doing it for a while. He's with the team technically, through, I believe, 2026, his deal, which is this year, isn't it?

D (34:39)

Yes.

B (34:39)

Maybe it was 2028, then.

D (34:41)

It was 2026.

B (34:42)

It is.

D (34:43)

Yes.

B (34:44)

So there's little question marks about what he's gonna do, but clearly nobody on that team wanted to answer that question right after losing that game. They weren't like, we're not talking about this. He's had a great season. Why are we even discussing. But he's old.

C (34:55)

You know, they play in LA or Seattle.

B (34:58)

Seattle. Why?

C (35:01)

I don't know. Just curious. Good to know. Context. Yeah. Vibes.

B (35:04)

Seattle fans are loud. Famously loud.

C (35:06)

Yeah.

B (35:07)

They call themselves the Twelves because they legally can't call themselves the 12th man because that would be stolen from a school that did it first. So they're the Twelves. That's what they go. Because 11 guys are on the field, so they consider themselves the 12th guy because they're so loud. They have an impact on the game and how it's played.

C (35:25)

So that's that's cool, I guess.

B (35:30)

Yeah.

D (35:31)

I'm just excited that the Pates are now playing off against the. I want a hippopotamus for Christmas of the NFL.

B (35:35)

Oh, my God, I forgot that. That's who he said.

C (35:38)

Oh, wait, you chose the Seahawks for that.

B (35:41)

And also when we did the. Didn't we. At the beginning of the football season talk about teams that could win the Super Bowl? Were either of these teams mentioned?

D (35:47)

Neither of them. We gave everyone. We gave listeners 10 teams that could win the Super Bowl. 10 is a pretty decent amount of teams.

B (35:55)

Sure. Yeah. It's a third in the league.

D (35:57)

Neither of them.

B (35:59)

Yeah.

D (36:00)

Were on our list. Five of the 10 didn't even make the playoffs in our initials.

B (36:03)

Really good. Really good. And now's a good as time. As good a time as any to let people know that when I say producer. That was. Brady did that. Brady. That was all Brady. Brady put that together. Okay. And that's. And he's not here, so he doesn't have to take it. But, like, I think we can all agree Brady didn't know what he was talking about. You know, if we had produced it, it'd be different of a.

D (36:23)

If. If you couldn't. Couldn't guess that the Four Wind Patriots would have had such a massive turnaround. Like, come on, Brady. That was obvious what was going to happen. Shout out Mike Rabel.

B (36:34)

Shout out Mike Vrabel, who this week finally decided to listen to me and put a hat on. It was snowing. The pile was building on his head. He put on a hat, and he looks so cute in a hat. And then he put a. And then he also put his hood up. Yeah.

C (36:46)

Isabella, he's really Mike Vrabel in a hat.

B (36:50)

We don't objectify coaches or athletes. Former athletes here.

C (36:54)

But if we do him in a cowboy hat.

B (36:56)

Okay. I don't know. Just do Mike Vrabel in a winter hat. You know, Mike Vrabel sidelines AFC championship would also work. I've got. Actually have about six pictures saved. I can text him to you.

C (37:09)

Okay. Yeah, send that.

B (37:10)

Private Josh McDaniels, our offensive coordinator, where it stayed committed to a visor. Wore a visor. A hat with no top in a snowstorm. That's crazy. That's just like, what are we doing, guys? What sort of performative masculinity is this? Can we please just cover the tops of our head? It's snowing.

C (37:26)

Look, I'm only covering the sides, not the top.

B (37:29)

You won't catch me covering the top. I'm not A baby. All right, so those are the actual games. Can we talk about. This is something that came up last year. A new trend in the super bowl advertising space that I am so sick of. Is this ad for an ad. If you were watching the AFC Championship or the NFC Championship this weekend, you saw a number of commercials that were just teaser commercials for their super bowl commercials. And the way you would know is, at the end, it would ask you a question, or it would show the logo of the company, and then it would say, like, find out. 2, 8, 20, 26. Stop doing this. Stop doing this. To run these ads. I saw that Matthew McConaughey Uber Eats ad, Bradley Cooper Matthew McConaughey thing, like, four times. I'm already sick of whatever the payoff is. I don't want to keep watching these two tease that ad. Commercial. Just show me the commercial. I hate this so much. I hate that people are like, what's the commercial gonna be? The only people who ever did this funny. And this was probably a million years ago, too. This was when the super bowl was in Miami and it was the Niners playing. I want to say The Chiefs were Mr. Peanut. Remember when they were like, Mr. Peanut might die. That was. We all went into super bowl week going, is Mr. Peanut gonna die? And then I think they did kill off Mr. Peanut, and then I think they brought in a new baby, Mr. Peanut. That was the last ad campaign that, like, teased what it was going to do at the Super Bowl. And it paid it off for me because these that. Do you know what I'm talking about? That McConaughey eats commercial where he just kept going, like, food, food, food. I saw people not even know what he was saying. They thought he was saying foot. It's like, it wasn't effective at all. And they've been running with this campaign of, like, football is just a vehicle to sell food for months. And I'm. And I'm just like, who's this for? It's like when Twix started doing left Twix and right Twix. And I'm like, who's this for? Does somebody out there go, a left Twix guy? They're the same cookie. It's the same thing.

D (39:48)

By the way, that Miami super bowl was six years ago.

B (39:51)

Ew.

D (39:52)

Yeah.

B (39:52)

I've known Mike McDaniel for six years.

D (39:55)

There you go.

B (39:56)

My nice takeaway from that. He officially, I think, announced as the Chargers offensive coordinator. By the way, Mike McDaniel, my organ donor. The. My blood brother, the man who saved me from a burning building is now the officially the offensive coordinator of the Chargers. Which is good because I really the last thing I wanted was for him to around and become the head coach of the Raiders. I really didn't think that was going to be a good situation for him and it was an open position that I had not heard him officially turn down. So to hear that he's officially going to the Chargers, it's fine. LA is far away, but I'll deal with it. I'd much rather that than him be the Raiders head coach. It's just like a mess. Whatever's going on over there feels like a mess. Another annoying thing that we've got to deal with in these two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. I know we've all heard and many of us are excited for Bad Bunnies halftime show. We've talked at length on the show about Turning Point USA wanting to counter program the halftime show because apparently they just don't think this one is enough about family and America, which is crazy and tells me you've never met somebody from Puerto Rico. They are bigly about both. Bigly about both of those things. The so Donald Trump has now slammed the halftime show. I feel like again, I feel like he definitely did it before opening act. By the way, Green Day halftime performer Bad Bunny both have publicly opposed him and all of his stuff. He said that he won't be going to the game and then he said, quote, I'm anti them. I think it's a terrible choice. All it does is sow hatred. Terrible. Which is like, honestly, at this point I it's so hard to do any of this because it's like that's so patently false in that it's all that you do. And so it's kind of crazy for somebody who actively sows hatred. Even in this answer, when the President of the United States, who is supposed to be for pro everybody in the United States, he's not supposed to just be pro the ones who like them. He's supposed to be president for all of them. So for him to come out and say he's anti them is sowing hatred. That's what you're doing. You're telling people to hate him because you hate him and you're not supposed to hate him because you're his fucking president. It's don't let me get all worked up. He added, however, that the performers themselves are not the reason he plans to skip the game. He cited travel concerns instead. He said, quote, it's just too far away. I would. I've gotten great hands for the Super Bowl. They like me. Trump said I would go if, you know, it was a little bit shorter.

C (42:44)

Okay, okay.

B (42:46)

It's in the United States. It's.

C (42:50)

I bet he would go if they gave them a trophy. What was that event? What was that event?

B (42:56)

It was for the World cup, right? No, World Cup.

C (42:59)

The club.

B (42:59)

Club World Cup. And you got a trophy. I mean, didn't he get. Didn't the lady who won the Nobel Peace Prize, didn't he make her give him her Nobel Peace pr. It's like, this is absurd. So, yeah, I think if we made a little trophy for the guy, maybe he would show up. Any, any news on the. The counter programmed halftime show?

D (43:21)

Any words I've seen?

B (43:22)

Okay, so honestly, still no announcement. Does the Puppy bowl still happen at halftime? I don't know if they moved it to pregame, but they. It used to happen during halftime. And so I feel like if you're really that bothered by Bad Bunny, you could go watch some good boys, you know, you could go watch some good dogs.

C (43:40)

Yeah.

D (43:40)

Looks like it's airing at 2pm Eastern.

C (43:42)

I never watched the Puppy bowl, so. Yeah, I'm excited.

B (43:45)

Well, there is a lot of. You know who the real stars of the Puppy bowl are? Are the people who have to call that and referee and officiate that game. Because it's really just adoptable puppies dumped into that looks like a football field with like a. A toy that looks like a football. But there is no rhyme or there's no first downs. There's no huddling up. There's no clock, there's no play clock. It's. It's kind of a mess.

C (44:09)

And there's no kicking, there's no field goal.

B (44:11)

Right, right. Well, they could, but they haven't chosen to yet. Okay. And I think one year they introduced like Bunny cheerleaders. So there was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, I don't know. Just a bunch of rabbits. I don't know if they were adoptable, but they were cute. And they put them in short skirts, which I thought was kind of crazy. No, I'm kidding. I don't think they did that. But anyway, just go watch the Puppy Bowl. If you don't want to watch Bad Bunny, go watch the Puppy Bowl. You're listening. I'm a lady who's never. I know. I'm sure I've heard a Bad Bunny song, but I don't know any. I can't name any. Can't name his albums. I don't it's not my type of music. I'm still excited because that. That's what a halftime show is. It's like, hey, we chose this person usually because we think it speaks to the audience that we have or the audience we're looking to capture. In this case, I think it's the audience they're looking to capture. Younger, international, you know, maybe newer to football. And they go like, they're gonna put on a show and see if you like it and if you don't like it. There's so many outlets for you to go like, man, I hated that halftime show. You can call into a radio show the next day and say how much you hated it. You can go on Twitter. I used to go on Twitter and be like, this halftime show absolutely sucked. You can have opinions about it, but, like, when you have the opinions before the actual performance happens, it's like really obvious what it is about it that's bothering you, and that's really embarrassing. You know, this guy's coming in, he's a world renowned performer, one of the most popular performers on earth. And yeah, maybe a lot of his songs are going to be in a language you don't speak. Okay. My hips don't speak any language. Okay. They just shake and.

C (45:45)

And they don't lie.

B (45:46)

They don't lie. They've never told a lie in their lives. Thank you, Isabella. I just. I don't know. People are like, oh, I couldn't. I don't like the. Okay, try it. Maybe you'll like it. Maybe it'll get you dancing. Maybe it'll be. Maybe you won't like it either way. It's like a few minutes. They put a ton of money into it. It's always a spectacle and it's something to talk about. Grow up. Everybody needs to grow up. Not the least of which, I mean, our president being anti them should disqualify you from the job. That's a Lane Kiffin ass thing to do, to abandon your team and go, I'm a coach. No, you're not. To say you're anti an American and you're the president. No, you're not. So get it together, everybody.

C (46:28)

Grow up.

B (46:29)

And hopefully I like it because I will really hate to look around and see all the people that hate it with me if I don't like it. But, you know, Bad Bunny, you got this.

D (46:38)

Put on Green Day. You like Green Day?

B (46:41)

Yeah, I like Green Day. They've got enough good songs. I'm into Green Day. They. A couple. Some of the Later. Green Day stuff I could probably do.

D (46:47)

Without, but I'm more of an early Green Day fan. I was just thinking. So my. Me and my family all love Green Day, and we went to a concert of theirs. I went with my mum and my dad and my two siblings and my cousins, and I think an auntie and uncle were there as well. Big group of us. And I just realized that that that concert that we went to occurred probably 21 years ago.

B (47:09)

Why does this keep happening to us?

D (47:11)

I know, 21. I'm like, yeah, it was 2005. I'm like, how long ago was. Oh, that's how I felt when.

B (47:17)

When Pat McAfee announced his song. Which, by the way, where's the rest of the music, Pat?

C (47:22)

We're dying for it.

B (47:24)

Over the next weeks or months, we're going to be getting seven or eight tracks. And here I am every day refreshing my Pat McAfee page on Apple Music, just trying to see. I don't. Isabella. I don't think he ever went into the studio. I'm gonn honest with you. But when he announced his first song and it was called Dookie, I was like, like the Green Day album. And people were like, what? And I was like, what? What do you mean? Whatever. We're old, and it's fine.

D (47:53)

We really are old.

B (47:54)

And that's a.

D (47:56)

You're going to be even older in a couple of days.

B (47:58)

It's literally Wednesday. I'm. Yeah, I have no plan. I have a semblance of a plan I'd like, but I haven't put it together because, like I said, everybody wants to talk to me because I'm a Pats fan. Meanwhile, I'm like, I don'. Know if we're going to win. I'm just happy we're here. Which is not what they want to hear from Pats. They want us to go like, we're back. You hate us. We're the best. So I got to work on that. I got to do that in the mirror. All right, we got a kid who's going to wake up soon, Chris. So we got to fly through the rest of this stuff in this thing in this document. Let's start with the head coaching carousel. Big news out of this is the NFL. A lot of teams firing their head coaches, a lot of head coaches trying to fill those new jobs. A lot of stuff shuffling around. About a third of the league moving around. Something we haven't talked about since last episode that happened. The Pittsburgh Steelers are hiring Mike McCarthy. Sixteen years after Mike McCarthy beat Mike Tomlin in the Super Bowl. It's a little bit confusing because of all the overlap, because Mike McCarthy, in that super bowl, coached none other than Aaron Rodgers. And Aaron Rodgers, of course, is currently still technically, right, the quarterback for the Steelers. So it's a reunion of sorts of those two now, their relationship, a bit contentious at the end, I believe, to put it plainly. There were a lot of articles and a lot of Hubub about, like, McCarthy and Rogers butting heads, not getting along, not agreeing on certain things. They both obviously came out after those articles were published and said, like, that's overstated. We don't dislike each other. But what else would you say? You know, you're not going to be like, they nailed it. That guy sucks. Unless you're me. And I have not yet learned, like, that's not how you're supposed to move in media. Unfortunately, it's the only way I know how to move. Mike McCarthy was formerly the head coach of the Green Bay packers and the Dallas Cowboys, and now he's the coach of the Steelers. He's, he's. Look, he's kind of run of the mill. He's kind of average. It's not much of a change from what you had, you know, like, looking at his record and looking at the records of their former coach. It's not really. It doesn't inspire a ton of confidence. At least that's what I got from Steelers fans on the Internet this week as I was kind of perusing through their forums, various forums, whichever ones I'm, I'm not afraid to step into, and seeing them be like, yeah, no, I don't want this. This is not who I think we want as our head coach, but it's who you got. And so it should be kind of interesting to see. Chris, what did you think of this hire when you heard it?

D (50:41)

Yeah, very uninspired. I don't think Steelers fans are happy. Bill's fans are unhappy with how everything is played out on their end as well. Neither fan base are really, are really excited at the moment.

B (50:54)

Yeah. So the Bills, last we left them, they had fired Sean McDermott, who had an incredible record in the regular season, but they felt was not able to get this team to the next level, which is to win a Super bowl, which they feel they deserve because they've got Josh Allen and it was their window and they're ready to go. So they fired him. And then their owners came out and gave a, A, a terrible press conference where they threw a current player under the bus and Also said they made the decision to fire him after the loss in the playoffs, which is crazy to base it off of one game. A lot of fans responded to that and they signed a petition to hire him back to reinstate McDermott as the head coach. And the petition got almost 80,000 verified signatures.

D (51:41)

Yeah, it's currently at 79, 867.

B (51:44)

So a lot of fans wanting them to just rehire Sean McDermott. Sean McDermott, I think, has since said he's taking a year off. He is not going to be entering into the carousel now. That could change. Coaches say stuff and then they change their minds, offers are made, you can't refuse, blah, blah, blah. But that at least I think is the plan. And I'll also say I don't think you can. What do the kids call it? Is that spin the block when you go back to a. An ex? I don't think that's. Doesn't usually work out romantically in the long run and I don't think it would work out professionally either. I don't think after what they did, you can just go, you want to come back? And they'll go, weird. They'll go, totally, yeah, definitely want to come right back. But I should also announce Philip Rivers, who they had interviewed the Bills and people were shocked by that because Philip Rivers currently coaches a high school team and has never been a head coach at the NFL level. Obviously very talented. And what he did for the Colts this year when he stepped in and played even as he was eligible for the hall of Fame, meaning he'd been out of the league for five years, very impressive. But they interviewed him for the head coach job and so people were like, what? And then today I think he announced that he has taken himself out of consideration for the job. So he has pulled out. Philip Rivers, for the very first time in his life, has pulled out. So that is the headline there. And then, oh, the Browns. The Browns are looking for a head coach. Kind of another murky situation. Not sure who would want that, but appearing on Friday's edition of the Rich Eisen Show. Shout out Rich Eisen. Tom Pelissero of NFL Network, except explained that the Browns are going about their search in a unique way. Do we have the clip of this?

A (53:19)

The Browns search process and interview process, which they have run a number of times, is unlike any other in the NFL and it plays to certain types of candidates. They are a data driven operation in Cleveland and so they spend an extraordinary amount of time gathering data on their coaching candidates. You're talking about taking a personality test. You're talking about writing an essay. You're talking about completing homework assignments, going into both the first and the second rounds of interviews.

C (53:55)

What?

B (53:56)

It's a lot homework.

C (54:00)

I don't want the job.

D (54:02)

Exactly.

B (54:03)

It's like. I mean, on the one hand, as somebody who's had to hire people before, I remember finding myself in a situation where I was like, well, what do I ask for? How do I. How do I know? How do I evaluate? And I get it. But not usually a good sign when the reports are that you're doing stuff no one's ever seen somebody do when it comes to trying to find a head coach. And I guess it would be valuable to have a head coach who could write an essay, but at the same time, why would they need to do that?

C (54:38)

Yeah.

B (54:39)

You know, like what? You want to put him in a fake press conference? Okay. You want to put him in a. You know, like a situation like that? Sure. But writing an essay, taking a person. A personality test. I get nervous when a boss tells you to take a personality test.

C (54:52)

Yeah.

B (54:52)

It happened when I worked at Equinox when I was in gym sales, gym membership sales. They made us take these personality tests, and I go, the results of this. I feel like you're just gonna use to manipulate me as your employee. I feel like you're gonna. I don't. You're not. You don't deserve this information. This is. My personality is for me to know and you to figure out. It's. I'm supposed to keep you on your toes. This is a gym. Why does this matter? Why does this matter?

D (55:19)

I don't think the Browns understand that at this stage in their franchise's history that coaching candidates are interviewing their franchise as much as the franchise is interviewing them.

B (55:30)

Right.

D (55:30)

You are not in a significant position of power as the Browns. If you want to attract quality candidates, you can't be doing shit like this.

B (55:40)

You guys have to think of it more like a. You are at a table at a conference, and you need to bring the best candy because the thing you're talking about is not interesting. And no one's going to walk up to your table. You've got to have the best swag bag so that people come over to your table, and then while they're doing that, you get their email or whatever you have to have. The Brown should be approaching it that way instead of going like, we're so special, we make you do even more work. Because if I were a head coach, I'd go, yeah, I won't be going there. I'm not going to be even swinging by Cleveland because they don't have Twix at their table. You know, they're going to make me do more work and it's, it's going to be a tough enough job if you get it. So best of luck to anybody in on that and we'll keep an eye on it. I think that's all of the head coaching stuff. I think that puts a big bow in the NFL. Like I said, we have two weeks to basically break down and preview this game. And I should mention our recording schedule. I'll, I'll do this during housekeeping on the Thursday episode as well as a reminder. But I don't think we've mentioned yet when we go out to the super bowl, we're getting out there on Tuesday. And so we are doing episodes that week. This is next week. I believe we're doing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday episodes instead of a Tuesday, Thursday release schedule. I think we're going to do little things all three days of the back half of the week. So that's just a programming note about our podcast and it's going to be a little bit out of sorts because basically we're going to be on radio row grabbing any famous person we can and talking to them about the game. So it's going to be a little bit of a format change from our usual say everything about every sports news piece and it's going to be a little bit more focused on Super Bowl. I hope that's okay with everybody. But I just wanted to mention it so you don't.

C (57:20)

And if it's not, I'm gonna fight you. Just kidding.

B (57:23)

She's not kidding. She says just kidding. But I'm looking in her eyes. She's not kidding. So anyway, that'll happen next week. Just a heads up on that. So no one wakes up on Tuesday and it's like, where's my podcast? It's like, we'll be right there. We'll be right there. I promise. We'll be right there. Okay, News outside of the NFL. Let's talk about Trinity Rodman. Huge, huge news and a big win for the nwsl. It's a little murky business wise, so bear with me as I try to explain this. But Trinity Rodman has resigned with the Washington Spirit. We talked earlier in the year about how this was a turning point for the league because there was obviously a lot of money to be made if she wanted to leave the NWSL and go over to the Super League. In Europe and she could make a lot more money. She's obviously a huge player for the NWSL and we wanted to see if they were going to be able to retain their stars. They are retaining Trinity Rodman. She resigned with her team on a deal worth more than $2 million a year. She's now the highest paid player in NWSL history. I also think I saw she is the highest paid female team sport athlete on the planet. There was a confusion around all of this because of the salary cap and because these leagues are experiencing growing pains while trying to maintain the great talent that they have. And I don't know if you guys saw this. A couple weeks ago they created something called the high impact player rule. The hip. The HIP rule. And these do lie. I will say these hips do lie. This is a very confusing system. Basically it was to allow teams to exceed the salary cap to retain a superstar if in certain situations, if they meet certain criteria. The criteria was roundly mocked as being ridiculous because a lot of it was like if the player is on makes it to the top 25 from the Guardian or like random publications. And they were like, if they're ranked in the top hundred of this, if they make the most money in endorsement deals, they could be labeled a high impact player. And it just felt like most people who are tuned into the league were like, these are too arbitrary. These are based in nothing and they don't make sense. And they were. They didn't even apply to a lot of players in the past who you would think would be deemed high impact players. So it was a murky mess and it still is. Rodman and the Spirit have previously. They had previously reached an agreement on a four year multi million dollar contract. That was in early December. That deal was rejected by the NWSL as being against the spirit of the league salary cap. Funny enough, it's the Washington Spirit. The salary cap is three and a half million for each team for the 2026 season. And it's going to rise every year and hit 5.1 million in 2030. So then the NWSLPA, which is the players association, the union that represents the players side in these agreements because Isabella, it's basically the league versus the players. And so the union of the players sued, filed a grievance against the league for saying that that was a violation. And they said the move violated the collective bargaining agreement. And then weeks later, the league adopted the HIP rule that allows teams to spend up to a million dollars over the cap for a star player that meets certain criteria. The Union has also filed a grievance over that rule. So when they came out with those rules, the union was like, this doesn't make sense. And you are not allowed to unilaterally create a new pay structure without bargaining with us. That's the CBA we always reference. That's like the agreement between the league and the players of, like, how it's going to work. So they basically said, you can't just tell us this is how it works now. We would have to agree upon this. So they filed grievances. The Spirit president of soccer operations Haley Carter says the hip rule figured into Rodman's new contract and that neither of the grievances that were filed will affect the deal. Basically, the treetops is that Trinity Rodman's going to stay in the nwsl. She's staying with the Washington Spirit, which is what she wanted. And then she capped off her week in style, scoring her first goal for the US Women's National Team in nine months when they won six nothing over Paraguay on Saturday. So a big week for Trinity Rodman, now one of the highest paid athletes, which is what we were hoping for. So it's not perfect. The NWSL has a lot of work to do to figure out. You know, ideally, this is a problem you're going to run into over and over and over. I'm so sorry. You've got a talented woman on your roster. How do you keep her here? And so hopefully they. This is a step in the right direction. And they figure all that out because kind of a mess. Pivoting now to tennis. And it's a good pivot because we'll start with Ben Shelton, who is Trinity Rodman's boyfriend still, right? I'm always afraid to.

C (62:02)

I think they are.

B (62:03)

Yeah. Okay. The Australian Open is happening. Chris told you about that last week, that you could watch it if you wanted to watch some sports. He is through to the quarterfinals where he will face Yannick Sinner, somebody that we've seen a lot of, mostly in finals because he's one of the top two players in the world. Ben Shelton's ranked number eight. He defeated number 12, Casper Rudd in four sets during their fourth round matchup. Cemented himself a spot in the quarterfinals for the third time in his career. He has only dropped one set from his first four matches. Isabella, have you been able to watch any? I know the hours. It's hard.

C (62:36)

It's hard. I've been able to watch the ones that I think the earliest matches are airing at like 7, 8pm over here. But the ones that are like 2, 3am I haven't been able to.

B (62:47)

Yeah.

C (62:47)

Which this one was.

B (62:49)

It's tough. And I'm anti DVRing sports. I know.

C (62:51)

That's like, oh, yeah, it's not.

B (62:53)

It's just not the same because it's like, I know what happens, and so I really don't. It's hard to care as much. I mean, I guess if you hear about, like, it being. If it's an incredible match, like, okay, I would go back and watch it maybe, but I don't know. Chris, what are you, what are you gonna say?

D (63:09)

Different culture about that in Australia. Because if you're an American sports fan, of course, and you work throughout the day, you have to get used to and have to get comfortable with DVRing sports games and then watching it later and trying to like, completely close everything off so you don't hear anything or see anything that has to do with the game that you're trying to avoid. Me and my dad did it all the time with the Celtics games. Dad still does that with the Celtics games. He'll, you know, make sure to not go on any Celtics blogs or anything like that. Or listen to the radio until he's gone home that night and watched. It was like that with the football at the NFL. When we were living in Australia, I think a lot of Australians who like American sports just, just by nature of the time difference. Yeah. I'm not opposed to it.

B (63:52)

Yeah. And I. I feel like eventually I could see myself coming around to it.

C (63:57)

I just feel like with the Australian Open, it is fun. When I was a kid, I used to, like, with my dad and my brother, we used to like wake up in the middle of the night and watch it.

B (64:06)

That's cute.

C (64:07)

Yeah, it was. And it was fun because it'd be like a school night and it's like my dad's letting me stay up late.

B (64:11)

That's really cute.

C (64:12)

Yeah. And so, I don't know, I haven't done it in a really long time. So maybe this time around, maybe.

B (64:17)

Maybe for the finals. Yeah, maybe just for the finals. Or maybe even. Yeah, for this, the quarterfinal. Because I'm sure that's in the middle of the night, Right. Because these are like the big matches. Yeah. On the women's side, Jessica Pula, number six, beat her podcast co host Madison Keys, who was ranked number nine. Defending champion Madison Keys knocked out of the Australian Open by fellow American and podcast co host Jessica Pula. And if you're going Pula, I feel like we've heard this name recently. That. That's the. She's the daughter of the billionaire owner of the Buffalo Bills who gave that horrendous press conference in which he threw one of his own players.

C (64:52)

Oh, I just made that connection. So that's her dad.

D (64:55)

Yep.

B (64:56)

Oh, crazy.

D (64:57)

Isn't that he also owns the Buffalo Sabers as well, right?

B (64:59)

Yes, he does. And they are. And they are just as happy with him, I think, in that regard. I don't think they're there. But, hey, she's doing well and it's listening. Who am I to bring up someone's dad in the. In the face of their success? She's a. You're not your. You are not your parents. But I do need you to prove you're not your parents. I do need to. I do need to know. You know, you gotta. But leave room for it. But it. Imagine beating your podcast co host and knocking them off. Their podcast is called the Players Box. It's a tennis podcast. Pulls back the curtain on life behind the scenes of the tennis world. And she. They pulled back the curtain really far and she knocked her out. That sucks. I'd be. Would you guys be upset at me if I beat you at something? Yeah.

D (65:45)

Depends what it was.

B (65:46)

Yeah.

D (65:47)

Oh, like what if it was tennis? I'd be pretty mad. I felt like that was. That was. That was my number one sport growing up. That was the sport that I was best at.

B (65:54)

I won't beat you at tennis, but.

C (65:56)

If it's like Jeopardy, I won't be.

D (65:57)

I'd be like, oh, not even a little bit? Not even a little bit. I'd just be proud to have played against you.

C (66:04)

Yeah.

B (66:04)

Really sweet. Tennis. I remember, like two gym classes where they were like today's tennis. For some reason. Those are the only ones I remember. I don't think we did a lot of tennis, but I do remember trying to hit a tennis ball with a tennis racket and hitting it way over the fence, like out of the enclosed tennis section of the school. And me being like, this probably is not for me, this sport. So I promise I'll never be chit tennis.

D (66:28)

Good. Thank you.

B (66:30)

Quick Olympic stuff update. And when I say Olympic stuff, I mean the Canadian Olympic snowboarder Ryan Wedding, who was on the top of the most wanted list, the FBI fugitive list. They caught him. He is accused of moving some 60 tons of cocaine from Latin America into the United States annually and orchestrating several killings. And he was an Olympic. A former Olympic snowboarder. So much of this is confusing. His last Name being Wedding.

C (67:03)

I was very confused.

B (67:04)

All of it's very confusing. But he. I've been watching this over the last few weeks. Maybe like six weeks ago, I saw that there was an Olympian at the top of the most wanted list. And I was like, what? No one's talking about this. He turned himself in on Thursday at the U.S. embassy in Mexico City. FBI Director Cash Patel said his arrest came after U. S. Investigators worked with authorities in Mexico, Canada, Colombia and the Dominican Republic for more than a year. Wedding was added to the 10 most wanted fugitives, the FBI's list last March. Authorities had offered a 15 million dollar reward for information that would lead to his arrest. And he turns himself in.

D (67:40)

Does he get that money at least.

B (67:42)

At least go to somebody who needs the money and go like, tell them this and they'll find me there, right? Get somebody. You could get some. Somebody $15 million and have the same outcome. Because I don't think they go easy on you if you turn yourself in, do they? I mean, you killed people. Allegedly.

D (67:58)

It's a good point. I don't know.

B (67:59)

I think they're still gonna toss the book at you. That's 60 tons of cocaine. Does sound like a lot. That's a lot, right?

C (68:06)

What does that look like?

B (68:07)

I don't know. Google it. Not on my work laptop. Okay. I Wonder if it's 60 tons of cocaine and where to get it. I wonder if it would be bigger than or smaller than or the same size as the bus bust in super troopers when they have all those drugs late. I think that might be weed, but it's. Whatever. I don't remember. It was a huge bust. I wonder if it's. I hate saying huge bust. I've actually changed my mind and I don't want to continue with that sentence. He was previously convicted in the US of conspiracy to distribute cocaine and was sentenced to prison in 2010. Federal records show he now faces charges related to running a multinational drug trafficking ring as well as the killings of a federal witness and three other people. At the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Wedding competed for team Canada in snowboarding. Men's parallel giants slate. How do you say it? Slalom.

D (68:56)

Slalom.

B (68:57)

Where he finished. I know it's slow. Canadian inside joke for anybody who's new here.

C (69:01)

Oh, I keep forgetting. What? That I'm gonna. So how do you actually, you know.

B (69:06)

What, Say however you want to, but we say slalom.

C (69:10)

Okay.

B (69:11)

He finished June 24, and then after that he gave up competitive snowboarding. So it sounds like it's like he knew he wanted to be around a white powder. Needed a little bit of an experience to decide which one. And I think he picked coke and was pretty successful in it. You know, he probably won a gold medal in. In cocaine distribution. It just. It then is now ending with him. He's in custody.

C (69:33)

So snowboarding is a gateway.

B (69:36)

Yeah, maybe. Could be. It could be the ice. The update on the ice for the NHL. The NHL players are back in the Olympics for the first time in 12 years. The reason they were never allowed to go were a bunch of issues that the league had with insurance and travel costs and licensing rights. They've worked those out in an agreement that they signed, I believe, last July. And we're like, okay, we're going to send our players over there. Part of the agreement was that the ice would be up to standards that were set out in this agreement, and it is not. What we've been covering on this show is that they're still scrambling to build. Feed your daughter. Your poor, sweet daughter who's hungry. My goodness. Who cares about any of this? Oh, my gosh. Hi.

C (70:21)

Hi. Chris's daughter, Izzy, right?

B (70:25)

I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't have to. Don't make her do anything she doesn't want to do. So cute. This is actually so cute. I don't care about any of the stuff I was gonna say. She just walked in and just immediately she's just being hugged by Christ.

C (70:41)

Update.

B (70:42)

Just a full. I was gonna try to use it as a funny way to say mean things about ice, but now I just feel like the bit has been lost. And instead we'll all just melt into this adorable moment where it's tiny little girls just hugging her dad. Oh, it's making me really emotional. Where's my dad?

C (71:00)

She.

B (71:00)

Tell her to cut it out, please.

C (71:02)

What the hell.

B (71:06)

Chris? Do you want to do any of this other stuff or should we just leave it? Because I did want to ask you, Chris, about these Oscar noms. 2026 Oscar noms are in. Chris is obviously our big movie guy, but we're all humans who watch movies. Sinners leads the way with a record breaking 16 Oscar nominations. Our dear friend Stavros, the first guest on this podcast about a year ago, did not get nominated for anything but Begonia, the movie that he was in. True was nominated for best Picture. I still haven't seen it. I gotta see all of these movies. I have not seen Begonia. I heard he was great in it, and I'm excited to see it. Two sports movies nominated For Best Picture. If you had told me that before the noms came out, I would have been like, okay, Marty Supreme. And then who else? And the answer is F1.

D (71:49)

F1.

C (71:51)

Random.

D (71:51)

Yeah. Can't believe it.

B (71:53)

Do you have thoughts on this, Chris?

D (71:55)

It wasn't that great. Like, technically speaking, it was really impressive as far as movies go. As far as a. It was. It was. It was just very much okay.

B (72:09)

Yeah. I think I read that people were like. They wanted to include it as sort of a testament to how difficult it was to make and how what an accomplishment it is to have it. Because didn't they record it over the course of, like, a lot of time or something?

D (72:27)

Yeah, but it's also. And again, I want to be fair to this because I think when you're really close or know a lot about the subject matter for something, it can take away the enjoyment of movies that focus on that certain subject. The. The thing that I didn't like about F1 was that, yes, it was saying, this is a real look behind the scenes of an F1 season or an F1 team. And the movie itself is called F1. So you are really taking viewers into this world. But at the same time. Hang on, darling. At the same time, there is so many inaccuracies about how F1 operates that you just can't wrap your head around when you're watching it. You really have to turn all of that off and just accept it for what it is, which is just a piece of entertainment, and that's really it. So whatever goodwill that I feel like you got from making it, this is what F1 is. That immediately just gets taken away. I don't know. I don't know how to say it, but it just. It didn't work for me.

B (73:31)

I think it's Slalom, is what you're trying to say. Who is your best picture pick out of these nominees?

D (73:39)

I loved Sinners, but I haven't seen all of them yet. I've only seen a few. So now that they've come out, me and my wife will start making our way through and ticking them off, off the list.

B (73:47)

I gotta do the same thing.

C (73:48)

That's what I'm planning to do. I want to do, like, a Oscar nomination marathon to see stuff that I haven't seen same.

B (73:54)

I got to see one battle after another still. I know that's crazy. I haven't seen it, but I. I haven't seen it. I got to see. I want to see Hamnet. I'll watch Frankenstein.

D (74:02)

We watch Frankenstein over the weekend.

B (74:05)

What?

C (74:05)

Was it good?

D (74:06)

Frankenstein was great.

B (74:07)

We really like Frankenstein. Really?

D (74:08)

Yeah.

C (74:09)

Okay. All right.

B (74:10)

I can do it. What's Train Dreams? I don't think I know that.

D (74:13)

I didn't know about it either beforehand. I know very little about it. I'll do a little bit more digging as the week.

B (74:19)

If you could, please. Yeah. Most important thing about the Oscars that we can't end the podcast without mentioning is that Tilly Norwood, that AI Actress who we're all excited to see do whatever it is she plans on doing, they plan on doing. I don't know if. After the nominees were announced, Tilly Norwood posted on Instagram, posted a photo of Tilly holding an award with the caption, congratulations to all the Oscar nominees and even the ones who hate me. You're all my heroes, and I'm sorry for scaring you so much this year. Making movies is the most important job in the world.

D (74:51)

Now, the award wasn't an Oscar, but it looked very similar to an Oscar and had the word Tilly on.

B (74:57)

And that's probably because Tilly doesn't exist in reality. So they just wrote, picture of this lady with an. An award. Your daughter can't hear me, right? I'm just confirming.

A (75:08)

Correct.

B (75:08)

What the fuck is this?

A (75:10)

Why?

B (75:11)

Why does anybody think this is. Who's following this Instagram account? What is this Trump ass post where she's like, even my haters. I love all of you. Congrats to all of you. Even the ones who hate me.

C (75:25)

Congrats to all of you.

B (75:26)

They hate you because you're trying to take their jobs, and you're not even a real person. How could you possibly act? You're a computer. I am losing my mind. I do feel like your daughter heard me say.

C (75:41)

And I just realized I put my fingers up and she can see me. No, she can't.

A (75:45)

She can't.

B (75:46)

Oh, she's not. She's.

D (75:47)

Should I bring my son in for the C block, too?

B (75:50)

Yeah, please. All right, let's wrap this up so that Chris can handle his family. But, Chris, do you want us to do what? To watch. I can make Isabella tell us what to watch. If we want to watch sports this week.

C (76:00)

Week.

D (76:02)

I'm happy to. I'm happy to do it. Unless you want to take the reins. Isabella. Oh, my God. What do you mean?

C (76:08)

It's like. It's like you doing the cold open when I was gone.

B (76:11)

I think it'll be good. I think we should make Isabella do it.

C (76:13)

I'll do it again.

B (76:14)

Okay, we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, Isabella's gonna tell us what to watch if we want to watch sports this week.

C (76:20)

Yay.

B (76:24)

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B (78:48)

Okay, we've reached the end of the podcast. This is usually the part where Chris will tell us what we can watch if we want to watch some sports this week. Chris has both of his children with him as he is on dad duty right now. So to save him from having to unmute his microphone just in case, we're gonna have Isabella do it. Isabella is gonna tell us, and that's. And I think you can handle this. So, Isabella, what can people watch if they want to watch sports this week?

C (79:13)

I feel like I'm gonna throw up. Guys, you can watch the US Open. You can watch Pula versus Anisimova. Let's see. This is. Okay, you can watch them Tuesday night, Wednesday morning. It says here the time is tbd, but just know you can watch it on espn.

B (79:30)

That's right. And it's also. No, it's the. Probably the Australian Open. Now, that's not Isabella's fault. It says U. S. Open in the dog, but technically, I think, funny enough, Chris got that wrong. And Chris spelled Australia.

D (79:44)

Every 100 is up for failure there.

B (79:47)

Isabella, nobody understands your plight more than me. Let's tell people their next thing they can watch if they want to watch some sports this week.

C (79:54)

The epl. What is that? The soccer.

B (79:58)

Yep. And if you had to guess what the. What it stood for.

C (80:02)

European playing league.

B (80:05)

Close enough.

D (80:05)

That's better. Actually.

A (80:06)

I like that.

B (80:07)

The. The English Premier League. And who are the teams?

C (80:10)

Leeds United vs Arsenal. Arsenal. I know, because I think that's. I think that Zoran Mumladi's favorite team. I think.

B (80:19)

A good reason.

C (80:21)

I'm so sorry if I got that wrong.

B (80:22)

Okay, and when can they watch it?

C (80:24)

Saturday, January 31st at 10am Eastern on USA Network. And then it says here that Arsenal sit atop the Premier League table with a 15, 53 record, which means that they won 15 times, they lost five times, and they tied three times.

B (80:43)

That's a rock.

D (80:44)

Good job.

B (80:45)

That was beautiful. I liked her saying, sit atop the table.

C (80:49)

That's very.

B (80:50)

That's how Chris talks. But it was nice hearing it out of Isabella, and I really liked it. Okay, you're nailing this. What is the third thing people can watch if they want to watch sports this week?

C (81:00)

It is an unrivaled. I hate this so much.

D (81:07)

I'm not editing any of this.

C (81:08)

It's the unrivaled double header Hive at Mist and Laces at Vinyl. This doesn't sound like real words.

B (81:17)

These are words. You're doing great.

C (81:19)

They're it's happening on Saturday, January 31, beginning at 4:30pm Eastern on True TV.

B (81:26)

Tell me more about the Laces.

C (81:27)

Oh, okay, so Laces are on top of the table with a record 5:1. And the Ms. Brianna Stewart has been one of the best players in the league this season, averaging almost 20 points a game.

B (81:38)

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You did so good. You did so good.

C (81:43)

I don't know why I hate it so much.

B (81:46)

It's anxiety inducing. But you did a really good job. I really think that's all the things people can watch if they want to watch some sports this week. And now everybody's caught up and we're all on the same page. And then also I think we had this in there as one of them before about that that Alex Hunold guy who free solos stuff and we had told you you could watch it on Netflix. I don't know if you guys saw, but one of L. Duncan's first duties as a new sports host on Netflix was to have to fill for air time because it rained on the day that he was supposed to climb this building and she had to explain to people that they weren't going to let him climb the building without ropes or harnesses because it was wet because it was raining. And apparently people were frustrated with that. He did eventually do it. He got to the top of the building. So I guess congrats to him on that. He didn't die, which is good. And, and then I thought I saw a quote. He immediately complained that it doesn't pay a lot of money to do that. And to me that makes sense. I don't think we need to have multiple people trying to scale the sides of buildings like Spider man for no reason other than to say they did it. So probably good that it's not a multi million dollar paying sport. Okay, that's Casuals, you guys. That is an episode. Thank you so much for hanging with us. I know it was a weird one. I know we all missed Brady. If you want to email us, don't forget you can always do that. Casuals with katie nolan@gmail.com. you can leave us a voicemail 646-801-0043 on IG and tick tock. We are at Casuals, the podcast. We will be back with another episode for you on Thursday and and we'll see you Then we'll send us off to the super bowl in style. We love you. We mean it. We'll see you soon. Bye.

A (83:24)

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B (83:50)

This trip is draining my wallet. Yeah, but we'll be with family.

D (83:55)

You're in a good mood.

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