
Hello! It's the podcast that asks that if you're going to tattoo us onto your back, please tell us about it first. Today, Katie and the Casualties break down an absolutely epic World Series that reminded us of every single thing we love about baseball, from a Game Six ballpark anomaly to a Game Seven legendary national anthem and a home run from an injured Bo Bichette and benches clearing and a manager's gut feeling about Miguel Rojas and a debatable slide at home plate and a collision in center and Yamamoto pitching in zero days rest and everything you could ever want from a baseball game. The team gets into the best celebrity reactions on social media, Caleb Joseph's postgame comments about the Blue Jays, Clayton Kershaw's final game, and Alex Vesia's presence in the hearts of both teams, and then make closing arguments for why every casual fan should be all-in on baseball in 2026. Then [48:50], the team runs through the biggest sports stories of this week, including Cardi B and ...
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Katie Nolan
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Isabella
And it was doing that before.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, pretty frequently. Okay, pretty, pretty often. But a new update says that it'll no longer. You can no longer get your health and legal advice from your computer.
Isabella
So what does it say when you type in like, hey, is this a tumor on my head?
Katie Nolan
Well, I mean, I think before it was just going, mm.
Isabella
But I wonder now if it's gonna be like, sorry, we cannot answer that question.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, and you could argue which one's worse. I think the first one's worse. So I think it's good. I think this is ultimately a Good thing.
Isabella
I think so.
Katie Nolan
But as with most things happening right now, I reserve the right to realize later it was a bad thing.
Isabella
I think so.
Katie Nolan
Is that fair?
Isabella
You're allowed to Change your mind.
Katie Nolan
PodC hello and welcome to Casuals, a sports podcast for people that probably didn't think they'd ever listen to a sports podcast. Or maybe you love sports. It doesn't matter either way. It's just I want to make it as a welcoming place for people that I want to invite to like sports. I'm Katie Nolan. I've worked in sports for like a decade and I'm joined today, it's Tuesday, by my casualties. That's my production team, my little. My little team. There's just three of us. We have Isabella, the sports newbie. Hi. Brady is Brady. We do need to come up with what your lower third is.
Brady
Brady, Australian, not woman.
Katie Nolan
Brady, the white guy is what it sounds like you're saying there. Say hi.
Brady
Not quite Chalamet White, but in the running, right?
Katie Nolan
That's right. Hi. He wasn't in the running just for facts to be important. He was not in the running for that award that Chalamet won. And then also we have Chris, who's from Australia.
Chris
Hi.
Katie Nolan
But not like right now. Right now he's in North Carolina.
Chris
Correct.
Katie Nolan
I can give you his exact address. Just DM me on your preferred social media platform. Don't look for him there. He's not there. Famously. We have a lot to get to today. If you want to reach us casuals@katynallmail.com our voicemail 646-810-0043 on IG tick tock. We are at Casual as a podcast and if you want merch from us, we have a SiriusXMstore.com Casuals. You can buy sweatshirts, T shirts, hats, and I feel like this may be the last time I mention it, but so long as it keeps getting put in the rundown by local white guy Brady, I will read it because that's my job. And so those are the things that I have to tell you. Coming up, we're going to talk about Cardi B and Bob Kraft and what they must have talked about when they were spotted at an NFL game this weekend. We got the NWSL postseason preview that season wrapped up. So we're going to catch you up on the goss, basically the storylines of each team and who's gonna face off and then we'll get to some other stuff. Hopefully, maybe. But the big story and the thing I want to focus the most on here, right at the top of the show, is the baseball. We had an incredible World Series this year. Baseball has now ended, which is very sad. And it's ended with the Dodgers winning the World Series, which if you had told me at the beginning of the season, I would have said is very sad. It would have really disappointed me. However, somehow, some way, this World Series absolutely delivered. So since we've. It's been a couple games since we've talked to you, and 6 and 7 were really something, I figured what we'll do here is we'll talk about the moments from games six and seven that stand out to us, the storylines there. We'll listen to a little bit of sound from the players around those games. Then we can talk about the World Series as a whole and what we think it means. And then I would like us to do something that I'm going to call closing arguments, closing statements. It's one of those. We'll pick whichever one we like better, which is basically at the end of a season here. The concept of this show being that casuals, you know, it's a sports podcast to help casuals follow along. Follow along. We're also kind of pitching you a sport. It's possible that you weren't really into baseball and us talking about it made you go, I'll give it a chance. And I wanted us to make our closing arguments for, from this postseason, some of the moments that made the best argument for why you should like baseball, why every year you should go like, oh, watch baseball this year instead of just this season. Does that make sense? So we'll do. We'll get to that at the end of this. We'll call it a yap. And then we'll get into the rest of the sports news for the second half of the podcast. That's a bit of a roadmap. Now watch me veer the car directly off of it and onto something else. I didn't even think we were going to talk about today, as I usually do, but starting with game six, I suppose the main thing I'd like to talk about from Game 6 between the Toronto Blue Jays and the Los Angeles Dodgers was that play where the ball got lodged in the outfield. Isabella, did you happen to see this at all?
Isabella
No, I didn't, but I heard about it.
Katie Nolan
You did? What did you see? Like, the drama of how mad everybody was.
Isabella
No, I heard, though, that isn't it. Like, apparently in those situations, it's still fair. It's like a fair ball or.
Katie Nolan
No, no, you're not wrong. I think what you're getting at is that the correct call was technically made. So Barger hits a ball that gets it like truly off of the bat. It arcs and then as it's coming down, you're like, wow, it looks almost like it's going to come down exactly where the wall meets the ground at the back of the field. And it did. And it got wedged underneath like the padding part of the wall. And the Astroturf warning track, which by the way, Brady, is that common. I don't think I realized that at Rogers center, their warning track, which is usually dirt, it's made to look like dirt. Is AstroTurf.
Brady
Yeah, it, it, it's subpar. It feels very like low rent. College Stadium used to all be dirt everywhere.
Katie Nolan
It was like, no, it should be dirt.
Brady
Cuz it's supposed to feel different on your feet. The whole point of it being there so you don't run into the wall.
Katie Nolan
Exactly. It's supposed to warn you that you're getting close to the wall. That has a little padding on it, but not a ton. But as we found out in game six, it's enough padding that the ball was truly wedged underneath the matting of the wall. And it was. Now look, could you reach down and grab it? Yeah, but this is why we have rules. And written in the rule was basically that if the ball gets wedged in a fence in some sort of way, you're supposed to put your hands up and the umps will call it a ground rule double or whatever. That's what they did. They had the presence of mind in this game where they the the runs needed to score. The Blue Jays needed these runs and they would have. They actually did the running and scored the runs, only to find out go back to second and third because the ball is dead. Because they put their hands up because they couldn't get the ball. Now I understand why Blue Jays fans are like, what are you talking about? Totally get it. I think it sucks to be in a game where, I mean, I saw a lot of them say after that game that cost us the World Series. And while at the time I thought, you still have another game, don't give up. It could eventually be true. If they had won on that play, then it would have been over. They wouldn't have gone to game seven. But the fact that the right thing to do is to tattle just does not sit right with me in a moment like that. That the correct answer is to go, mom, Mom, I can't play the ball. Like, yes, the presence of mind of an athlete to be aware of the rule book. I think Kike Hernandez deserves a lot of credit here. He's got post season brain like you read about and body. He just does. He's just a better player in the post. You can see him signal to the center fielder who had just come into the game. You see him signal like you're supposed to put your hands up. And then they do. They put their hands up and it's the right call. Knowing the playbook, knowing the rules, knowing this is all part of the game, blah, blah, blah. It still doesn't feel good. It still doesn't feel good to call the parents over and have them go, that's right, everybody, no runs score here. Back to your bases. Because this was wedged a little bit into a wall. It's frustrating and I would be frustrated, but it gave us the controversy that this World Series needed, I think in order to be like a. A historic World Series, which I, I was loving it before game six, the way it was so evenly matched, even though we all thought it was the dreaded Dodgers, we're just gonna sweep them, blah, blah, blah. It was. It ended up being so evenly matched and so hard fought that I would have already said this is one of my favorite World Series. But once that happened, I was like, well, here we go. That was the controversy we need. Now there's got to be some sort of a fight, which we do get to in game seven. But let's skip ahead to game seven. Listen. My God, what a game seven extra innings after we already got two full games of baseball. We got extra innings in game seven of a World Series. The first instance of scoring. We got a boba shet 3 run, home run. The building goes nuts. Now, this is after Bobichette in the second inning, I want to say, was your lead runner. And because Bobichette's coming back from an injury, he was slowed as your lead runner. Not in his pure Boba Shet form, you. He might have cost them a run. I don't know. It's not guaranteed. But I think in a playoff game with Boba Shet as lead runner, when a single. He could have hustled his way to third, he couldn't because he was hurt. So Boba Shet comes up with two guys on base and you're like, come on, everybody. And he hits a three run home run. They're thrilled off Shohei. Shohei comes out of the game as a pitcher, I should say, because we must keep in mind this man does it all.
Brady
This was after he walked Vlad Guerrero to say, I'm not pitching to you, I'm pitching to Bo. I don't want you, I want Bo.
Katie Nolan
Because I think it was Springer that got to third. It was a wild pitch. So it's like once he got to third, they were like, all right, let's put Vlad on and we'll just pitch to Bo. And then Bo hits a three run home run. Love that. You love to see that. Very exciting. So The Jays were up 3, 0. I believe the Dodgers scored one. They like scored one there and then one a little later and then one. They just slowly trickled their runs. The bench is cleared in the fourth. This was, dare I say, silly. The Dodgers had Justin Rubleski on the mound and Andres Jimenez was at the plate. Bottom of the order for Toronto and Andres Jimenez sort of Brady stopped me from being unfair. Sort of seems like he tries to get hit by a pitch. Wrbleski is, is pitching inside to him, but he makes a movement with his hand that sort of seems like, oops, I couldn't get out of the way of being hit by a pitch.
Isabella
Right.
Brady
Find me the human being who can react mentally that quickly to a 90 some mile per hour baseball and be like, I'm gonna stick my hand out and get hit by it.
Katie Nolan
Well, he kind of did. It just seemed like after a discussion we had had in some other game that came before this, that who knows which somebody was like, oh, if they had just stayed in and gotten hit by that pitch, it would have scored a run and blah, blah, blah. This is the. Of course it's difficult in the moment to have the presence of mind, but I think after we have that conversation, maybe Jimenez, who's not do having a great night plate otherwise. And I don't think his World Series has been as good as the previous series. I think he had a good series, but he's at this point going, let me be valuable, let me get hit by a pitch. So anyway, you could argue he might have tried to get hit by a pitch. Point is, then he gets hit by a pitch, okay, the next pitch after that or whatever. And the bench is clear and the, and the, and the bullpens empty from the outfield and start shocking in to the field. And it's like, who, what guys? What the bullpen at this point is starting pitchers, what are they going come out and get into a brawl over a guy who seems like he wanted to get hit by a pitch to take one for his team and then was given the opportunity to do so. Sounds to me like everybody got what they wanted. The pitcher got to throw at you, which he's being accused of, and you got to take your base, but the bench is clear. And I don't think anybody touched. Did anybody even come close to touching anybody? Nobody tossed. Nobody tossed. Of course, it was just a meeting. They had a big meeting on the mound with the whole teams. They had a conference, a summit was called, everybody came out, roll call, and then everybody left. It was silly and foolish, and both teams were issued a warning. Don't you do that again. Don't you do that again. Okay, fine. That was like a little intermission, okay? Other things to talk about from this game because there are so many. Miguel Rojas. Miguel Rojas, a guy that Dave Roberts, manager of the Dodgers, was like, look, I just got a feeling about this guy tonight. He's not the big names that you're all talking about. He's not the top of the lineup. He is a guy that just wants a chance to play for this team one last time, maybe. So I'm going to put him at the bottom of the order, and I just believe he's got it in him. Okay? The whole night, most of the night, I'm going, all right, Rojas, he's not really doing anything. I think he got another hit, but I'm going like, I don't know. We done with this Rojas experiment? He struck out in the third, he got a single in the fifth, he got out in the. In the sixth, and I'm just like, come on, dude. He comes up with the game tied. Nope, it's 4:3 when he comes up. Top of the ninth, there's one out, Rojas at the plate. So you're looking at Rojas as your second out, and you're looking ahead to Shohei Otani, who's going to be coming back up with two outs. Assumedly. And when I say assumedly, I mean even the broadcast at this point. The Blue Jays, two outs away from winning the World Series. They are up four three. It is the ninth inning. They have one out. Miguel Rojas is at the plate. The broadcasters are talking about who Toronto's gonna give mvp. There's so many guys they could give it to. You could give it to Barger, you could give it to Springer, you could give it to Bichette, you could give it to Ernie Clement, the guy who broke the postseason hit record. They are going through and listing them, and then Miguel Rojas. Question mark. Question Mark who? Question Mark hits the game tying home run. What do you.
Isabella
I actually watched that.
Katie Nolan
You did?
Isabella
Yeah. I actually. It's so crazy. I wasn't watching the game and then I sat down for a second because the TV was on and I was like doing something and I looked up, I was like, oh, let me watch it. And it was exactly that particular game.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. Did you. What did it feel like?
Isabella
Crazy, because I was rooting for the Blue Jays. I know, I know. You're like, oh, you're rooting for the Dodgers. I actually wasn't. I was rooting for the Blue Jays because I was like, this would be really fun. And so I was like, what the fuck? My boyfriend was already sleeping. He was like, what? And I was like, damn.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Isabella
This is not the moment to watch. For me to sit down and watch.
Katie Nolan
I mean, it did get interesting.
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Because at that point, it's now tied in the top of the ninth. So you go to the bottom of the ninth. This is a thing. This is the home field advantage. This is the supposed. They thought they weren't going to have to do the bottom of the ninth because they thought they were going to win, but here they are, they get another chance. And who do they have coming up? Vlad Guerrero Jr. Boba Shet, Addison Barger, and then, I mean, Kirk. Not like there's a weak spot in this lineup, but you're like, okay, they get another chance. So Vlad gets out, he pops out, too bad, Boba shed hits a single. They replace Bobichette. They need to put somebody who can run at full speed because this could be. This is the lead runner, this could be the, the winning run. So they replace him with. You'd love to see Miles Straw there. Unfortunately, Straw got used as a defensive replacement for Davis, Schneider when he came in to pinch it for Nathan Lucas against Blake Snell, a moment I was so excited about that didn't pan out. He ended up striking out. Because if you'll remember, if I may just really quickly, Blake Snell, his last start. The game started with two home runs off the first three pitches. And when he was asked, one of them was hit by Davis Schneider, his dad was wearing his. What are they called, those Instagram glasses that can film that. I hate that. I think are really bad and a sign of a surveillance state. Yeah, he had on his meta glasses and you saw his dad's reaction to his son hitting a home run off Blake Snell. It was awesome. Blake Snell, after that game was asked how he like calmed down after they had gotten to him. And he said, it's basically. I'm summing him up here. But he basically was like, you know, luck is involved in baseball. And I think a lot of that was luck. I wouldn't say they got to me basically implying that they had gotten lucky hitting two home runs off his first three pitches. They didn't get to him. He was clearly locked in. That was just luck. Bad luck for him, good luck for them. So it's two outs in the eighth and Nathan Lucas is coming up against Blake Snell, who just came in because Ernie Clement led the whole thing off with the double. He's in scoring position. Blake Snell gets Jimenez out with a line drive to Max Muncie. That was insane. Max Muncie had just scored, hit a home run the inning before. I mean, crazy game. So you got one out there. Then George Springer strikes out on, I believe, three pitches. I mean, it just. He's exhausted. George Springer was falling apart at the seams. The poor guy was so hurt. Kept getting hit by pitches. It was crazy. Two outs, Snell on the mound. They have Davis, Schneider, pinch hit. And I'm like, oh, my God, he's gonna be. It's revenge because he said it was luck. Show him it's not luck. Davis, Schneider struck out. Now, here's the problem. You're not putting him in the outfield for the ninth inning. So you have to put in a defensive replacement in Miles Straw, which then takes him away from being able to be subbed in as the pinch hit, pinch runner for Boba Shet. And Miles Straw is the better baserunner. So then we get the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth in a tie game with the Blue Jays, the team that bats guys around, the team that knocks guys in. Sure, all night long they were leaving an annoying amount of guys on base. But this is the bottom of the ninth of game seven of the World Series. Surely, surely they'll score a run. And they didn't. And it went to extras that the fact that it was Rojas again playing second base that made the play to home reminiscent. I don't know, Isabella, if this reminded you at all, when we tried to describe Orion Kirkering, the Phillies pitcher who had the ball come back to him and made the wrong play, threw it to home. He panicked. A play at the plate was calmly, correctly made from second base to stop a run from scoring.
Brady
A million things happen in those five. Oh, my God, the grounder, like a medium speed grounder to second base. Rojas stabs it and like staggers backwards off balance. And as he like, has to make the first clutch, doesn't throw it on the first pump of his arm, you're like, oh, shit, they're gonna score. Then he fires and like, there's no way this is accurate. Throws it accurately to home. Will Smith kind of has to lean off the plate a little bit. Like, oh, my God, did he step on first? He keeps his. Or you step off home, he keeps his foot on the plate. Kiner falafel comes in. Katie, where were you on kiner? Flava coming in sliding feet first in the home for no God damn reason.
Katie Nolan
I mean, Isabella, the theory is the way you can be your fastest, right, like a sprinter, is you run through the finish line. You never want to slow down to the finish line. First base is one of the places you can do that because you're just allowed to. But when you're running to other bases, the fastest way to get in is to slide because you're not allowed to run through the base. Home plate, you're allowed to run through. They can't like tag you on the other side of home plate. You're. You're done. You've. You've run the bases. For some reason, he slid. He got a terrible jump. IKF off a third base.
Brady
Now the coaches were holding him to the bag. They were showing him to the bag because they didn't want the line drive.
Katie Nolan
Double play which they had gotten into in the last game, which ended the last game, which was stupid and that he, he slid into home. And I just think, look, IKF got a lot of hate when he played for the Yankees. And I don't think there's a shortage of people. I think. Hayden on.
Isabella
Does it slow you down if you slide into home instead of. You were to run?
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Oh, theoretically. Again, you never. It's the one.
Isabella
Did he like slide in feet first or something instead of the. Okay, I heard about.
Katie Nolan
He didn't dive in head first.
Brady
He first can be faster if you do it perfectly. Feet first is never faster. The reason you go in feet first.
Isabella
It'S like one of those moments where you just make the wrong decision.
Katie Nolan
Yes, it was just a dumb. And you're, you're brought in specifically to run. Like your impact on this game is going to be you as a runner. And he didn't score. That's okay. That's only two outs. That's only two outs. So then what happens? The craziest thing you've ever seen. Ernie Sweet Clement, who has set A new record for most hits in the postseason at I believe 30. Did it get to 31 eventually or was it just 30? He comes in, he hits the ball, and brand new defensive replacement Andy Pahes runs and makes the catch of a lifetime, colliding into Kike Hernandez, who's completely blindsided and knocked. I thought he was out. I thought he was knocked out like cold. I thought, wow, they got the out, but at what cost? Kike Hernandez has lost consciousness. But then of course, Kike just pops up and goes like, hell yeah, brother. And the inning is over. It was insane.
Isabella
I saw that. That was crazy.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. They strand three again and we go to extra innings in a series that has already given us an 18 inning game. Then in extras. I don't want to talk about extras. The te. The. The 10th inning was such a waste of an inning for Toronto. They have Andres Jimenez again. He grounds out. Okay, you've got one out, Springer. As I've said, his limbs are dangling off of his body at this point. The man has been hit by pitches. He has hurt himself swinging. He is just, yes, an incredibly reliable hitter, but he needs a break. I think. I think we've gotten everything we can out of George Springer. Instead they send him out there, he strikes out again, and then you've got Miles Straw, which, sure, maybe you can have a Rojas moment where you count out Miles Straw. But no, he popped out and it was over. That was a waste of an inning. What's wrong?
Brady
Can we talk about who was pitching for the Dodgers at that point?
Katie Nolan
Yeah, we probably should. Huh? Because that's going to be your MVP there. That's going to be Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who.
Brady
Pitching on zero days, zero days rest.
Katie Nolan
Who has already pitched two complete games in this postseason, comes in after pitching game six. I believe he got the win. He was on there long enough to get the win in game six. Comes in and gets the win in game seven. An unreal pitching performance, postseason performance from Yamamoto from Japanese pitchers top to bottom because Sasaki also did a great job. Shohei obviously had an incredible Game four of the NLCS and also just is great and did other stuff also. But an Absolutely unreal 2 1/3 shut out to close game 7 for the win from Yamamoto. Absurd. Three wins in the series. So he's named World Series MVP, as he should be. Six innings of one run ball in game 6 and then came back and pitched that game. Absolutely absurd performance. I loved hearing Shohei say, like, he's number one in the world. Sick it's sick because he is. And as you guys pointed out before, this game was on it like a normal time in Japan. They got, like, afternoon. They got to watch, like, afternoon, awesome baseball, which is so sick. Crazy. An absolutely crazy world. One of my favorite World Series. I've watched similar experience across the board.
Brady
It was. It was the same as the Royals, Giants series, and then it came down to, like, that last at bat with Kirk at the plate. The Blue Jays could have won on that at bat or lost on that at bat. Like, it was. Just could have swung either way on that pitch. If Kirk singles, they tie the game because they're down one run at. In the bottom of the 11th. Kirk hits a, you know, extra base hit. They're clearing the bases out, and they win that game. Instead, Kirk broken bat into a double play where Mookie bets. Mookie bets, of all people. Slick fielding, scoops up the ball at shortstop, steps on the base and sidearms it over to first to Freddie Freeman, who ends the world series, throws his arms up in the air. Mookie Betts making this play after he has been a shortstop for all of six months and is suddenly one of the best in the world at it. Insane the way that all comes together.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Brady
And meanwhile, the Dodgers go out and celebrate. And Kirk's shattered bat. Did you see this shot? His broken bat just sat there in the middle of their celebration the whole time. It just. No one picked it up and moved it at all. There's just a broken bat in the middle of all the Dodger players celebrating.
Katie Nolan
Absolutely devastating loss. For the Blue Jays to be so, so, so, so close and have to watch them in your home stadium celebrate is. Has got to be tough. Very, very tough. Random thought that I'd like to make sure. I say, did you get to see the US Anthem before this game? It was jaw dropping. It was to go into a foreign country and perform the United States national anthem so beautifully. I was like, this is. I could run through a wall. I might root for the Dodgers. It was such a good anthem. I was shocked. You would think that I would write down the name and then say it.
Brady
But back to back, because they go u. S. Anthem. Back to back with O. Canada and the Canadian fans on their feet. The. The mere volume of them singing oh, Canada along with them for a Game 7 in Toronto that was also, you know, spine tingling.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Did you. Was it easy, Chris? Did it come up right away?
Chris
Pia Toscano.
Katie Nolan
Yes. Pia Toscano. She was a. I think, an American idol. Maybe contestant. I had never heard of her, and I will be looking her up later. It was unreal. I don't know. Anthems don't always move me, but this one, I was like, girl. She kept choosing to. You know, there's, like, moments. If you've listened to enough anthems before enough games, there's moments where they can choose to really go off with it or they can just keep it kind of chill. She chose to go off with it every time. It paid off every time. That's so rare. Usually you go like, oh, she was getting a little full of herself. She went up and it was. The note wasn't there. This was amazing. I came out of the. Like, I had the game. I came out from where I was to stand in front of the tv, like, huh. She was amazing.
Brady
Length betting is my favorite dumb sports bet.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Brady
Because you have to predict, is this singer going to hit those moments and really drag on. Is she going to double up that. And the land. And the land. Is she gonna double up all those notes and just get extra seconds onto it above 150?
Chris
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
I bet she hit the over. I didn't check, but I bet we saw a bunch of celebrity tweet reactions. A lot of people finally waking up to how baseball is the greatest. Billie Jean King, we love her. She said, the best baseball game I have ever seen, which is awesome. And I inclined to believe it. Pat McAfee said, this is on X. I imagine baseball's super exhilarating right now. Crazy to type, crazy to feel. I mean, come on. While it's having its best mo. It's like being like, whoever thought that she's all that, that that girl would have been hot? It's like, let them have their. It's like, what are you talking about? We knew. We all knew. Baseball's been good. Welcome to the party. What a weird dot, space.
Isabella
And then dot, dot, space again. Yeah, the dot, dot, dot.
Katie Nolan
To quote Pat McAfee crazy to type.
Isabella
That's not that crazy to type, though. It took a lot of effort.
Katie Nolan
Space is crazy. Why would you type it like that? Just let it make an ellipses for you. What do you. Why would you possibly. Joelle Embiid said, oh, my F. God. Now that's. Now I think you're gonna want to do an effing there because. Oh, my. Oh, my fuck.
Chris
God.
Katie Nolan
If you put a comma there between my and F, that's bad. That might be misread. What if God misread that? You know?
Brady
Oh, my French.
Katie Nolan
God. What if you're. You don't want to be caught doing that. So maybe just. Oh, my effing God. I don't know. Just type it. We're all adults here. There's too much to be offended by. I don't think we can be mad about fuck anymore. I think the most important tweet we've got to talk about. Katy Perry tweeted Godgers.
Isabella
She's a California girl.
Katie Nolan
Is she. She's dating the, like, one of the more famous Canadian guys.
Isabella
Yeah. And also is she, like, from like, Pennsylvania?
Katie Nolan
He's famous and he's Canadian. We know him. He's one of the names you think of when you think of Canada. He's not still doing it. Right. He's done with it, but he did it.
Brady
He's still doing Canada. Yeah. He's not still doing his Canada job, but he's a representative of the country.
Katie Nolan
Sure. Yeah. And she didn't even mention, like, there wasn't even like playful smack talk of like, suck it, new boyfriend. It was just like, go do. Funny enough, it was caps lock, go. And then because she did at Dodgers, she. It's. Those are lowerc so it looks like go Dodgers, which I hate, but great.
Brady
Gotta set this one out right. Like she can't say Blue Jays.
Katie Nolan
Say. Just say nothing. Katy Perry. I'm not checking with you. I don't actually need to know. Tell me about it later. Save it for a podcast. I don't know. This is not go Dodgers. Get out of my face. Oh, can we play the guy, the Caleb Joseph who is a broadcaster for the Blue Jays. This sound is probably the most viral that I saw from the post game of. But you got to kind of sympathize with him here a little bit after the game, having to do his post game report. Caleb Joseph. This is what he said and it's.
Brady
Going to sound like sour grapes and I don't really give a shit, but I think the better team did not win this series.
Katie Nolan
I think the Blue Jays are the better team. And while I get what you're saying, I can even understand why you'd feel that way. I saw somebody reply to this and say, you know what we should do? We should take the two teams that we think are the better, the best teams and have them play, I don't know, seven games. And whichever one manages to win more games out of the seven, we'll get to say is the best team. Which is funny because that's, you know, what we did.
Brady
No, what I think we get the Job done. Yeah, it's enough of a sample size.
Katie Nolan
It is. Seven is. It's pretty perfectly worked out. I get it, though.
Chris
Especially when that 7 included an extra game of baseball's worth of innings and then some.
Katie Nolan
It was a close series. I think earlier in the series, the Blue Jays looked like they deserved to win. The. The. The Dodgers couldn't buy a hit. It's the one thing money couldn't buy. And. And the Blue Jays took advantage of all the opportunities they created. They had some mistakes, but the mistakes didn't cost them as much then those mistakes cost them in the World Series and the Dodgers put together. I mean, still a lot of home runs. Still a lot of runs off of home runs, whatever. Not my brand of baseball, but that's fine. But the Blue Jays just didn't. After the wedged ball, they just seemed like a different team. It was like they thought they were going to win that game. They didn't. And then they weren't really ready to have to play another one. And they're good enough that they got by, but they didn't. They left 14 guys on base. Absurd. The Dodgers left 10, and we're not even talking about it because A, they won, but B, 14 guys, what a waste. It's the World Series. It's game seven.
Isabella
Stop yelling at them.
Katie Nolan
I'm sorry. You're so. You're hurting. You're so right. You're so right. If this was one of your first game sevens, though, I hope that you do appreciate the just how it is truly. All hands on deck. Guy who pitched yesterday, available guy. What's his face? Yes. Savage coming in in relief. I'm like, excuse me, excuse me.
Chris
This is my favorite part about it. This child, for sure.
Katie Nolan
This young child made his debut in the league three games before the season was over. Great debut, powerful debut at this point. Has played more postseason games than he's played regular season games. Had an amazing performance against the Yankees. Had an amazing performance against the Dodgers. A few games ago. They have him come on in his first relief appearance. Now I'm like, he's checking off all of his firsts in his first season. It's absurd. But he comes in, I'm so nervous for him. It ends up being fine. But it just. All the people that we saw in this game, all the pitchers that we saw, all of the. It was just all hands on deck. Glasnow, Blake, Snell, Yamamoto coming back in. We saw you, Savage, Varlan, Scherzer, Bassett.
Brady
I've never seen someone throw their whole rotation in one game.
Chris
It's incredible. So much fun.
Katie Nolan
It's sort of.
Chris
It's. This is the fun thing about baseball, right, Is that you can really tell once it gets to game seven of the World Series, you can really tell how much these teams just throw everything they have into it. If you have a look at hockey or basketball or anything like that, you just sort of play as hard as you've been playing all postseason, right? Like, the game doesn't really look that different. But game seven of the World Series, you just throw out any pitcher that you possibly can, including all your starters. And it's phenomenal. That gap between what baseball looks like as far as a pitching rotation early on in the World Series to what the pitching rotation looks like in game seven is just such a huge gap. And it's so much fun. It's so incredible. And every inning, you're getting another superstar pitcher, superstar starting pitcher coming in. It's incredible.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it's the best. Truly. I think that one of the best things in sports is a game seven. I mean, a game seven, a World Series Game seven, extra innings, top that you can. It was incredible. The only way that could have been a better night, and I'm only saying this not just for my rooting interests, but because of the building they were in. The only way that's better of an experience for a viewer is to be able to watch the fans see their home team win. That's the only way, I think that game would be to me. I mean, unreal. Would be unreal to see the way that, like, catharsis of experiencing that together. Obviously, it was still an incredible win by the Dodgers. They. They did it. People are now debating if they're a dynasty. One of my least favorite debates in all of sports is when somebody wins a bunch and you go, are they gonna keep winning a bunch forever and ever? I don't know. If so, we're gonna have to deal with it. So let's just. Great. They won back to back. They have a lot of really good players. They seem to be one of the only teams willing to put money down on players so that every time a team gets a guy they really like, the Dodgers are there to outbid them on them, which we all take out on the Dodgers, because that's how sports should be. We should be allowed to only look at it from that perspective. But with. With a potential contract dispute, a CBA dispute looming in our near future, I now have to zoom out and go, well, I don't think the answer is to Cap the amount of money that these incredible baseball players are able to make. It feels like the answer is to get some of these billionaire sports team owners to cough up more cash so that the all the best talent doesn't end up on the one team willing to spend any money.
Brady
The Mets are over here. Like, you shouldn't be able to spend $300 million on a roster. That's right. No one should be allowed to do that.
Katie Nolan
It would be giving them such an out. If we all go. If we all interpret this the wrong way and go, it's unfair. They have all the players. Yes, that is true. But it's unfair because there's no reason that these other teams shouldn't be spending this money and getting these players. And I don't know. I just get. I just. If this is. If we're about to have a. Can I also just say if we're gonna have a lockout. If we're in Shohei Ohtani time and we miss a year of baseball, I'm gonna be so mad. You're gonna. I'm gonna go scorched earth. You're all gonna be hearing from me. So they better get this figured out. And we as sports fans have a responsibility to not fall for whatever they try to push as the narrative for why the players are the bad guys in this scenario. You. Okay? Let's try to do our best because they're very good at getting you to go. Why is this guy needs so much money when teachers only make. Yes, I know. We're not going to solve that. We're not going to solve that. There's a lot more money in being a professional baseball player than there isn't being a teacher. It shouldn't be that way. It is. This is not getting the billionaire owners to save money. The people who get to touch the trophy first, which I've always hated. All that work they've done. But I guess if it's the Dodgers, they did. They spent their money. Um, I wanted to run through some of our favorite moments from the postseason to try to make a closing argument for why baseball is the best. We don't have a ton of time because I yapped about game seven, and I honestly feel like I've left a thousand things on the table. There is so much to say. Um, But I think so that these moments don't get swallowed up in how great the game seven was. So that we are remembering that this entire postseason has been incredible in a number of different ways. I just want to say my favorite moment that I said here, but will say again, was a Eugenio Suarez's grand Islam in game five of the ALCS. I felt electricity in the palms of my hands. I've never felt that before in my life. I have no idea what was happening when he hit that grand slam. It was physical excitement and happiness escaping my body in a way I'm unfamiliar with. I looked at Dan and I said, what's happening? I'm so happy. I've never. It was like, elate. I was elated. So that is going to be my favorite moment from this postseason. Among many. I loved you, Savage. Against the Yankees and the Dodgers. I don't want to step on anything that. That the producers may have brought that they wanted to say. Brady, do you have a favorite moment that's standing out to you?
Brady
Yeah. I'm selfishly going to take two because they're similar. It's the. The men under the hat, the people under the hat mean so much because the spotlight is shown on all 26 guys on the roster, and everyone's got a different story, and everyone's out there for a different reason. You saw all the Dodgers pitchers at the beginning of the. The world series with 51 written on the side of their head. And then later in the Series, you saw the blue jays with 51 written on the side of their hat. 51 was for Dodgers reliever Alex Vessia. And Alex Vessia had a very, very publicly documented. His wife was documenting, documenting on her Instagram page, her pregnancy through the summer, through September, through the early rounds of the post season, into October. You know, like, baby Vessia is going on to the. To the NLCS and so on. And they announced before the start of the World Series that Alex was stepping away due to a deeply personal matter and that Alex would not be joining the team for the World Series. No one dug deeper. No one needed to dig deeper. The team just through their support, behind Alex. Take as much time away as you need. We're here behind you. They put 51 on their hat. Everyone got behind Alex's jersey number with support and love, and Will Klein took his spot on the roster. And it was Will Klein that in Game 3 for the Dodgers usually throws one inning here and there. He's the last guy on the roster. He's not. He doesn't throw the important innings out of their bullpen. But when they were out of pitchers, Will Klein stepped in and threw four innings for the Dodgers to close out that game, gave up zero runs and put away game three, without which they would not have won the World Series. You have the team doing it for Alex Vessia. You have the team, you know, you have Will Klein getting his opportunity, seizing it. And at the same time, you had the old head, Clayton Kershaw stepping back, a former MVP stepping back and having a secondary role in this team, pitching out of the bullpen. But it was his last appearance with the Dodgers in a Hall of Fame career. And watching him ride off into the sunset with another championship, when on the other side, there was the potential for Max Scherzer to do the same. Who at 41 years old started game seven. And you watched him make that start thinking, this could be the last time we ever see Max Scherzer. And he's also going to the hall of Fame. And, you know, is Max Scherzer going to win a game seven in the last game of his career? He didn't. And then he announced he's coming back because he didn't want to end it on those terms. Terms.
Katie Nolan
He did. How did I miss that? He did.
Brady
Max says he's coming back.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Mad Max. He's insane.
Brady
Yeah, he's insane.
Katie Nolan
Absolutely.
Brady
But just the, the stories of each one of those individuals and just seeing the spotlight on them is what makes the game just so beautiful. 52 guys on those teams just having 52 different stories and 52 different challenges.
Chris
Chris, it's game three. It's the 18 in a game for me.
Katie Nolan
Right?
Chris
Like during the regular season, 18 innings feels like a long time. You're just waiting for it to end, but the stakes being as big as they are in the World Series, this game went 6 hours and 39 minutes. Long time to watch baseball, especially if you're a casual just trying to get into it. I understand that's a big ask, but it's sort of like instead of watching a long movie, you're watching like your favorite TV show, like 20 minute episodes. And then, and people go, you know, I don't have time to watch movies, but they'll BINGE, you know, eight episodes, nine episodes, 10 episodes of a TV show over and over again. Because it's just like bite sized pieces that you can get one after each other. And that's sort of what that 18 inning game felt like because you're getting so much reward after every inning and every time that a team failed to end that extra inning up, then you move on to the next one. Like that. Just that sense of drama is just incredible. And it was a lot of fun. It was, it was History and it really defined I think the battle of the World Series. It showed how tight these two teams were contested and it sort of sums everything up perfectly. I loved it.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And I mean this Also let's mention NLCS game 4. Shohei. One of the greatest postseason performances of all time. There was the 404 foot double play from the NLCS. Remember that? When Milwaukee. There was the ball that hit the wall and then into the glove and then they threw it to home and then they got the guy at third. That was an insane play. We'd never seen anything like that before. There were so many plays and moments in this postseason that were just like you can watch baseball your whole life and you still go like I've never seen that. Like Orion Kerkering. I know it's bad, I know it's a negative. I know it's heartbreak. But it like you felt for the guy. You felt that when he made that mistake. It there was. Remember when the series when the postseason started and they were like socks. Yankees in the first, in the first round of the playoffs. We're going to peak too early. We were so wrong. We were so wrong. It was just an incredible post season incredible performances. We saw the fastest postseason pitch that we've ever seen. 104.5 mph from Mason Miller on the Padres. Remember when the Padres were in the postseason on the black down.
Brady
Single greatest pitch that has ever been.
Katie Nolan
There was just so much school. Had that 14 strikeout game against Cleveland. He also had seven strikeouts on three digit fastballs in the postseason. That's insane. Like 100 miles per hour fastballs. Seven strikeouts on the insane in the postseason. Just an incredible, incredible. They were great defensive plays. Don't let me forget those. I, I, I'm not going to name them as specifically because they're not as interesting sounding but like remember when Barger had that laser throw from right field to the plate to get Freddie Freeman out. That was incredible. He also I think robbed Otani at one point. He like had that diving catch covered 38ft in three seconds. It incredible. An incredible postseason shout out. Garrett Crochet who had 11 strikeouts in his Game 1 performance against the stupid Yankees who ended up winning. There was pca, had that catch where he robbed Machado so much. So much incredible baseball. It's such a bummer to say goodbye to it for the postseason. I will remind you we get a World Baseball Classic starting in March. So I'm hoping for our newer listeners this will combine the excitement of. Let's Say the four nations, the hockey. The way we had international competition, but between the stars that we knew from the domestic product, we're going to be able to see similarly that in the WBC that starts in March, that's gonna.
Brady
Be right after the Winter Olympics. We're gonna be just hopped up on Mountain Dew off like international competition.
Katie Nolan
If we're forgetting your favorite moment from the postseason, you can always call us and leave us a voicemail. I Almost just said 888. Mad Dog 6. It's 646, 810 43. Chris. Speaking of which, did we get any voicemails about this World Series?
Chris
We got a bunch. And what I did for this is I actually edited a bunch of them together and created a nice little World Series montage that I put to some music that I'm going to present to you right now.
Katie Nolan
Okay.
Brady
One shining Series calls, really raw. Just rounded out into a loss in the 11th inning. I don't think this win for the Dodgers was good for baseball. I think the lockout's coming.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Brady
I don't know, you guys.
Katie Nolan
That game seven.
Brady
Oh, my God, I'm blown away. This is why I like sports. Everything about this. Crazy things were happening. Friends who don't even watch baseball were texting me and, oh, my goodness, this was amazing. Oh, my God. I just needed to call someone to be like, did you see that sitting in Skydome Gamut?
Katie Nolan
That's the sound of every Canadian province.
Brady
Going back to watching hockey, I just.
Katie Nolan
Watched the Blue Jays lose the World Series, and I think this is the first baseball game I've ever watched all the way, start to finish, and I'm so sad. But in just the last few weeks, I've gone from not caring about baseball.
Isabella
At all to just really loving these boys.
Katie Nolan
I love you. I mean it. Bye. Wow, Chris, really powerful stuff. How did you feel making that? Were you just pumping your fist in the air?
Chris
Absolutely.
Katie Nolan
It's beautiful. World Baseball Classic, March 4th is the first game we have. Chinese Taipei versus Australia. Chris, who's your big star? You have plenty of time to find out. You have plenty of time.
Chris
They're all really good. Yeah. I couldn't choose one specific star.
Brady
Is it Travis Pizzana? Remember the. They had the number one pick in the draft a couple years ago.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Chris
If he's in the. If he's on the roster.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, sure. Some would say Chris is not comfortable saying just because he loves them all equally. And it would be rude to point out one or two, even to just name 1. Or 2 players who's gonna play in the world be World Baseball Classic for Australia. Isabella, did you. Do you. What do you think? Do you like baseball?
Isabella
Yeah, I do like baseball. I will say success. I was a little wrong.
Katie Nolan
What?
Isabella
The playoffs can be fun to watch when your team's not in the playoffs.
Katie Nolan
Thank you. And that's a really, really good perspective for a Mets fan to have.
Isabella
Yeah. No, actually I would argue that it's. It's a little bit more. It's just more chill. Cause your team's not in it. So you can just like watch as like a very general fan.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Or you can do what I did, which is get way attached to one team, the Seattle Mariners. Watch them lose to a team that you're is the enemy. And then within a span of a week, fall in love with the team that you were rooting against and root for the Blue Jays so hard that when they lose, it hurts almost like it was your own team. Baseball's weird like that. That's advanced baseball.
Isabella
I'm not there yet.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, and that's good. That would be pretty sick. That'd be pretty sick and weird if you were. But what a World Series. You enjoyed what you watched of it end the postseason and that's. That means we win, you guys. We got Isabella to like baseball.
Isabella
He did.
Katie Nolan
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Morning, Zoe.
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Katie Nolan
Aren'T initially approved and we're back from a break. Oh, I hope everybody feels good. I feel good. That was a good wrap up to baseball. I'm gonna miss it. I'm gonna miss it. But it is NFL season. That is the good thing is like once baseball's over, you're like, okay, now I can shift attention to it's not like a NFL exciting and it's heating up. What an interesting season that we've had so far. We have a Are we teasing who we have on the show this week? It's confirmed and everything. Yeah.
Brady
If he doesn't show up, I'm gonna go break some furniture.
Katie Nolan
Right. We've got Mad Dog on the show this week, Chris Russo. So I we're gonna talk a lot of NFL with him on the episode that will drop on Thursday. And so if we breeze past some things here, don't worry, we will get get to them later in the week. The things I'd like to talk about today in regards to football, Cardi B and Bob Kraft sitting next to each other. Now, I'm sure the headline for most other people is that our beloved pates have won six in a row. Those pates are just unstoppable. As Isabella asked recently, since they are the Patriots. When you shorten it, P A T S is that pronounced pates? And the answer from now on is yes. So the pates have won six in a row, but Stefon Diggs, first place pates. That's right. First place pates being chased by those Buffalo Bills. The first place pates have Stefon Diggs and he is dating with a bunch of confusion around it. Just a murky dating situation. But is also planning to have a baby with Cardi B.
Isabella
Dot, dot space dot, dot space question.
Katie Nolan
Mark Dot, Dot, space question mark Dark space, exclamation point. They're having a baby.
Brady
Know what it was like to have see a friend on Facebook in 2010? Be like, change their status To. It's complicated.
Katie Nolan
Oh, I do.
Isabella
Except I was in middle school, and that probably sounds disgusting to you.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it is disgusting to me. How dare you.
Isabella
Sorry.
Katie Nolan
That's okay. Everybody has to be in middle school at one point or another.
Chris
I know.
Isabella
And mine was, unfortunately, 20. Okay.
Katie Nolan
All right. We've said enough. I think we have enough detail. Cardi B. Was at the game to support Stephan Diggs and was sitting with Bob Kraft. Now, the game was in Atlanta. She celebrated with him. What do you think Cardi B. And Bob Kraft are talking about? Because I was thrilled by this matchup, because Cardi B. A lot of people discount her. She's very smart. She. I've followed Cardi B. Since before the teeth. You know what I mean? I was watching cardi B on TikTok. She's so funny. She's really smart. She's very curious. She knows history. She loves history. I know that. So I'm very. Actually curious to know what these two talked about. I think she could make some real, I don't know, changes organizationally. I'd be willing to give her some power, some sense of power over my football team. Isabella, what do you think that Cardi B. And how much do you know about Bob Kraft? Actually, before you answered this question, and I put you in a. I don't.
Isabella
Know, my first thought is Kraft Mac and Cheese.
Katie Nolan
Great. Unrelated, but never irrelevant.
Isabella
Okay. I see here he is the CEO of the New England Pates.
Katie Nolan
That's right. He owns the Pates. He also wears Air Force ones. They might actually be Lunar Force Ones, but they're like. Like custom Patriot sneakers.
Isabella
Oh, cute.
Katie Nolan
Which is cool with his suit. He's rich. He's got sons who will probably inherit the team.
Isabella
Okay.
Katie Nolan
He had a little thing once about a. He had a little. I don't even remember Scandal at all. I don't. I barely recall. Somebody else would have to remember. Whatever.
Brady
Talking about the thing in Florida there.
Katie Nolan
The massage parlor thing. Yeah, he had a bit of a thing.
Chris
Isabella's.
Katie Nolan
And it's. And we could. We don't really have time to talk about it right now.
Isabella
Space, question mark.
Katie Nolan
And then two exclamation points, I think. Yeah, it was a. It was a weird thing.
Isabella
Oh.
Katie Nolan
But. Oh, he's. But he seems like he is. As far as NFL owners go. And I'll. I'll. I'm willing to be corrected on this. I feel like he is one of the more respected within the black community. I will say that. That I could be wrong. But I do think that, like, didn't he, like, say a lot about Meek Mill originally when he went in prison?
Brady
Yeah, he went to bed for getting Meek Mill out of jail.
Katie Nolan
Now you never know. And I'm not saying trust him. Definitely not saying invite him to a cookout. I just am saying he, at least I believe has some respect within the community. But again, willing to be corrected. And the number for that, it's on one of these pages. Pages 646-810-0043. I just really would love to know Fly on the Wall what those two talked about. I would like to know his thoughts on her more recent album, on her thoughts of her and Stefan getting together. I have. I would love to know.
Chris
Let's get him to set up a podcast. Listen to that.
Katie Nolan
At this point, why not?
Chris
Everyone else is doing it.
Katie Nolan
Everyone else is doing it, including us. Also, we got the a new record for longest field goal. This is always exciting. Listen, I know kickers are not the reason most people are tuning in and they're not getting a lot of respect. Oh, they are. Unless you're Isabella whenever you get. Whenever you get a. She's a big lovato head whenever you get a kick. That is the new longest in NFL history. That's an easy to understand stat. It's cool. It's something that's never been done before. And it happened over the weekend. Now it happened in a game that I had committed to not watching. I was like, you're not gonna catch me caring about the Jaguars playing the Raiders. I just can't be bothered to care. It ended up being. It sounds like a good game. You'll have to hear it from someone else. I didn't watch a second of it. But what came out of that game is that Cam Little has set the new field goal record with a 68 yard kick.
Chris
It's a big number.
Brady
My goddamn thing. From the 50 yard line.
Katie Nolan
Unreal. Unreal. To attempt a field goal not from their territory. That is crazy. He did it. He got it. And speaking of massage parlor stuff, I.
Isabella
Was gonna say is the guy in this line that guy?
Katie Nolan
Yeah. He has removed from that record. That record was previously held by Justin Tucker, an incredible kicker who we all loved and whose number one fun fact was always that he was an opera singer that has been bumped. And now the number one fact, less fun, is that he, you know, liked to abuse allegedly massage therapists across the greater Baltimore area throughout his career. Allegedly. Am I safe on all that?
Brady
But shout out to Cam Little.
Katie Nolan
But hey, Cam Little, you did a completely different guy Completely different guy. And we're happy that he did it. He's got the new record, and now we can forget. You flagged for me, Brady, Panthers, packers as a game. Now, I will say I was shocked by the score of the game, but that's not what you wanted to talk about as your major headline here. Tell me what happened in this game that is necessary for the casuals to know.
Brady
Well, first off, I was shocked by how much I loved the packers throwback uniforms that actually had fake leather helmets. They actually had, like, the print of the leather painted on the helmet.
Katie Nolan
Can I say this is the downside of the radio podcast, is I had a point I wanted to make that I don't know if I ever made, and maybe I did or maybe I didn't, but we were talking about how ugly the Steelers were, and I said the thing that messed it up is the helmet did not match and you should make it look like a leather helmet helmet. Did I ever say that out loud?
Brady
You did, but I don't. I mean. No, you did. I don't know if it landed.
Katie Nolan
I gave him this ideal, and it.
Brady
Might not land now, but the packers look cool as hell because the leather of the helmet matched the, like, the dark. It matched the dark pants. It didn't look like a light khaki, so it didn't look like everybody was running around there like Porky Pig butt naked on the bottom half. Like, it actually looked like a uniform.
Katie Nolan
Unlike the Steelers and the Guardian. It also made the Guardian cap look cooler. The Guardian cap is a voluntary thing you can put on your head to hopefully help with concussions, although the science on it is a little murky and it doesn't maybe seem like it, but whatever. So we try not to judge if you don't or if you do or whatever. But Romeo Dobbs wears one. And it looked so cool on the, like, fake leatherhead. It actually made it look kind of.
Chris
Blended in a little bit.
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
So it was kind of, like, cool. I like that. I like that.
Brady
But Rico Dowdle from the Panthers scored a touchdown yesterday. His celebration was an homage to a Key and Peele sketch, which in turn had been an homage to Antonio Brown being flagged for his pelvic thrusts many years ago as his own celebration, which then, like, they required the NFL to determine how many pelvis pelvic thrusts you can do before it becomes a penalty. Like, how many pelvic thrusts become then a twerk. And a twerk is a penalty. The Key and Peel sketch is a penalty. Yeah, a Twerk is a penalty.
Katie Nolan
Twerks aren't allowed.
Brady
Holding up two fingers and limiting you to two pumps. Two pumps maximum. Rico Dowdle went out there, very well rehearsed, held up the two fingers, showed two fingers to the right, said, I am only doing two pumps. Thrusted once. The team gathered around him, they thrust it a second time, and we're done. And you know what? They threw a goddamn flag on him for 15 yards. They backed up the extra point 15 yards because of it. And they missed the extra point where Rico Dalda was following within the assumed rules of two pump maximum.
Katie Nolan
Not only that, Stefon Diggs did the same two thrusts when he scored earlier in the day. And he didn't get a flag.
Isabella
No, I think it's.
Brady
We need uniformity of how many thrusts.
Isabella
But you can't twerk.
Brady
Yeah, no, can't work.
Katie Nolan
You can. You can. You can pull it in twice maybe, actually. But you can't throw it back. You understand? Kids are watching.
Isabella
Thrusting.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, okay. Whatever. Sorry.
Brady
Too many lewd jesters.
Katie Nolan
Isabella, to be clear, you're right. You're correct. Okay. I'm like, absurd. Their rules for this are absurd. And they go back on them every year. They'll like. One year, it was like, don't celebrate. And then guys did, and they were getting penalties, and they used a mashup of the celebrations as the commercial for the league. And it was like, if they're not allowed to do it, what are we doing making it the ad. It didn't. None of this makes any sense. You are correct. We just, like driving you nuts and watching it happen.
Isabella
Okay.
Katie Nolan
It's funny to watch.
Brady
Quote, from my understanding and everything I've learned, we go over, like. We go over like this every week in the meeting room. I definitely think you're supposed to get two pumps. Hopefully I don't get a fine. He knew the parameters. He knew the rules. He was if thin the system.
Katie Nolan
Now I'm gonna flag his thrust. If I could flag here that they go over stuff like this every week in the meeting room. What do you mean? Every single week they're going, and don't forget, you guys, we're not throwing it back. And if we have to thrust, we are limited to two. That's crazy.
Chris
Or are they coming to the table with specific dances? And then you've got, like, a. A group. You've got a chair, a board of people who approve a brain trust.
Brady
The board of Twerk found Cardi B's role within the NFL official czar of twerk.
Katie Nolan
I don't see why not. She certainly knows what she's doing. Wild. Wild. And I hope that's ameliorated soon. Wow. Word of the day calendar. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. But I will say I am. What was it I just jokingly said I was going to take credit for, by the way?
Brady
Panthers won that game. Big upset.
Katie Nolan
Crazy that the Panthers won that game. I could not believe. Absolutely shocked. Ever since that.
Brady
That.
Katie Nolan
That Meow Mix podcast, ever since those guys walked out on their own podcast and said, this team will never win, I can't support them anymore. I don't. They've, like, won most of. Maybe not all of their games, but a lot of them. You've got to feel like they're over 500. Like, you did that.
Chris
Looking good.
Katie Nolan
They definitely had something to do with that. I am going to take credit for them making their helmets look like the. The Leatherheads. Irrational credit. This is a sarcastic segment, but I will be taking credit for that. And I will also be taking credit for SNL doing a Predators sketch this week. Basically the punchline being like, wow, there's a team called the Predators. That's a crazy thing. And I feel like we may have helped bridge that gap when we tried to pitch a way. And I'll say I tried to pitch a way too complicated. And in the Weeds segment to John Marco when he was here about how somebody had posted in the Predators subreddit about an actual child Predator, and all the responses had to be people explaining to them that this was a hockey team subreddit. We got lost in the fact that John Marco didn't know we had a hockey team named the Predators. He thought that was so funny. And that was the punchline. I think we did this. So I will say, go watch it. It's very funny. But also, we're taking credit for that. For the helmets.
Isabella
I have that sound if you want to play it.
Katie Nolan
Nashville has a hockey team called the Predators.
Brady
No.
Katie Nolan
Yeah.
Chris
Are you serious? Yeah.
Brady
Still.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. They're the Predators. They're like a newer team, too. They're called the Nat. The Nashville Predators. It's like a. What? They're.
Chris
That's people walking around with shirts that say Predator.
Katie Nolan
Their logo is, I believe, like a saber tooth. Something.
Brady
It's like a Hollywood producer.
Isabella
No. Did it first on casual.
Katie Nolan
That's right. You heard it here first. So we're taking credit for that and for the helmets. And I think, in general, guys, you should just be coming to this podcast with things prepped that I can be taking credit for. It's just a note to the production team. Just a nice list of stuff that, like, Katie, look at your impact, look at your reach. You've really done it this time.
Brady
Katie was like, sydney Sweeney should make a movie where she's a female box boxer, dude.
Katie Nolan
I was really curious to see how she was going to promote that now that she's kind of pivoted into whatever it is that she's pivoted into where she's allowed to sit. Boobs are too. Having boobs isn't woke. Is anti woke or whatever it is the way they have her as this anti woke queen. Because she has boobs, I guess. And I, I was curious to see how she was going to promote this movie where she plays like a, A, a, A queer fighter, a, like a woman who maybe isn't seen as a conventionally bombshell. How is she going to this bombshell whose boobs are part of the revolution going to promote this movie where she's. It's. They always say that actresses have to go take a role where they, you know, change the way they look and make themselves less attractive. That's how they go get an Oscar. And so I was just curious how she was going to. And we saw in the World Series she looked like Marilyn Monroe. It did not at all affect the promotion of. They just promoted it like, I'm Sydney Sweeney and you're among 20 game four in the world Series. And I was like, you're an incredible. But she's playing the role of an incredible figure for women and women's sports and is fully promoting it like, it's gonna be a hot naked chick that dudes want to take a look at that. Fascinating.
Brady
And they showed her up in the stand sitting next to the actual Christy Martin. But there was no. And that was pretty much it.
Katie Nolan
No real solid mention of. She was just like, baseball, anything can happen.
Brady
And then the only other time I saw her this week was at some gala and just boobs out again.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. And you know what, listen, we all did see those boobs and what great boobs they were. I don't have a problem with boobs. Except that, you know, when my personal problems of like when mine showed up, you know, it was once the hair was already grown out, it was like, could have used these when I had the short haircut. Would have staved off a lot of is this your son Kevin questions. The beefs I have with boobs are all personal. In no way do I feel as though boobs are anti woke. It's like boobs. Finally, boobs can be again. Boobs have been able to be. They've been able. We're also hoping they're able to know be. We're about accepting bodies. I'm so sick of the, like, finally chicks can be hot and famous. Man. We went through a real dark time there where chicks weren't allowed to be famous and hot with their boobs all out. Thank God we're back.
Isabella
Boobs have been here.
Katie Nolan
Boobs have been here. And ass has been having a moment. Let's hear it for the ass. My God. Should we talk about the NWSL playoffs? Yes. Hey, y'.
Chris
All.
Katie Nolan
So we've been keeping. I have to. I have to do it. The quarterfinal round of the 2025 NWSL playoffs has finally been set. Kicks off, I believe, Friday. Look, one team ran away with it and locked up their postseason pretty early. But the teams that came after that first team, it was an exciting fight. And so we're gonna right now, I guess, give you the background of the format for the playoffs so that you can. Didn't keep up. Now is the time to tune into the NWSL is basically what I'm saying. We're going to give you a little primer so you know the first matchups, you know when they are and where you can watch them and maybe what to look for. So the playoff format for the nwsl, it's single elimination. It's eight teams. They are seeded based off of their regular season standings. The playoffs consist of three rounds. We'll have the quarterfinals, then the semifinals and then the championship.
Isabella
I like that.
Katie Nolan
Okay. You. Why?
Isabella
Because I like how it's just. It's just three. It's not. There's not like round one, round two, and then quarterfinals.
Katie Nolan
Right?
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
It's easier to digest.
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. The championship game will be November 22nd at 8pm so if you're. Only. If you're. If you're. Yes, sorry, 8pm Eastern. If you're going full. Full casual and you want to only check in for the biggest game, that's when that is. Mark that in your calendar. November 22nd. We'll tell you the other dates for the games as we go along. If a game is tied after 90 minutes, you're gonna get 30 minutes of extra time and then a penalty shootout if necessary. These are just important things to know going into a postseason. How does their postseason overtime work? And now you have that five teams from last year's playoffs are back for another stab at the league's top prize, including each of the NWSL's last four champions, the Orlando Pride, Gotham FC, the Portland Thorns and the Washington in spirit. Joining the list of top tier contenders are the Kansas City Current racing Louisville. I'm always nervous to say that city name publicly because they're very specific about how you say it to the point where when I was teaching myself to write monologues for TV I got old Keith Olbermann monologues and he would always write in his monologues lulville L U L V I L L E to keep him from saying Louisville which is what you want to do as a person from. I don't know. I'm from the north and I want to call it Louisville like Louisville Slugger. But they and they have every right to. It's their place. They get to tell me how to say it. They say it's Louisville, Lou Louis, Louisville, whatever. That racing them are in the playoffs for the first time in club history after booking the final birth with a win on decision day. So if you are a racing fan, you are going crazy right now. You are so excited and so happy. Call us and tell us all about that and leave us a voicemail. Okay, so number one versus number eight. That's Kansas City Current versus Gotham fc. Kansas City Current locked this spot up a very long time ago. They finished the season with the best record in the league. They also set new NWSL records for Most points with 65, most wins with 21, most road wins with 10 and most clean sheets with 16 in a single w NWSL season. So good team. I thumbs up. I got another random. It's perfectly timed. Another random zoom pop up. Thumbs up. You guys. Kansas City has had an incredible season. They will face Gotham FC now. We are not impartial here. Gotham fc, home of Midge Purse.
Brady
Hell yeah.
Katie Nolan
One of the coolest people on earth.
Brady
Also comfortably cool.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, like remember the picture of her with the cigar after the champ after she was mvp. It's like come on dude. That's crazy how cool this lady is. She's my favorite. She's the sweetest. She's the funniest. She's the greatest. She is on Gotham FC as is Rose Lavelle, international superstar, national hero. Gotham FC is not a bunch of scrubs. They are a good team. Can they beat Kansas City? We will see.
Isabella
Yep.
Katie Nolan
Isabella says yes. The game is on Sunday, November 9th, 12:30pm Eastern on ABC. Number two versus number seven. That's Washington Spirit versus Louisville Racing. Louisville, Washington Spirit are taking on the as we said, first time postseason entrance in the lone quarterfinal match on on Saturday, November 8, which is going to be at 12pm Eastern. Trinity Rodman hoping to make her return to the field from a knee injury. It's unknown at this time whether she'll be able to suit up for the Spirit. We don't have an update on that today at time of recording correct. We're still not really sure. So something to keep an eye on. Exciting for to be in their first postseason and we will see how that goes. Number four versus Number five That's the Pride Orlando Pride versus The Seattle Rain now the reigning champions. The prior to the reigning champions they ended the season without their top scorer in Barbara Banda. She had a season ending hip injury that coincided with a concerning nine game winless run that the team snapped at the end of September. So they are your reigning champions up against the Seattle Rain. I can I tell you a story I saw out of Seattle Rains. Kind of a sidebar, but I would like to talk about please. It's. It's terrifying I think so Head coach lady in charge of the team, Laura Harvey, admitted on the Soccerish podcast that she used ChatGPT to help determine the team's tactics for multiple matches during the NWSL season. She said that they told her that.
Brady
It was a tumor somehow.
Katie Nolan
They just she was like, no, no, I meant like what kind of defense should I run? I don't tumor. Harvey said that she started by asking the large language model various questions about tactics and strategy in the nwsl, which eventually turned into a more detailed breakdown on how to beat individual teams in the league. She said one day in the off season I was writing things into ChatGPT like what is Seattle Reigns identity? And it would spurt it out. And I was like I don't know if that's true or not. And then I put in what formation should you play to beat NWSL teams? And it spurted out every team in the league and what formation you should play. And for two teams it went you should play a back five. So I did. No joke. That's why I did it. She said that out loud. Exactly. And it is reminiscent of our segment should I have said that out loud? And look, it's I am trying not to like shame people for using Chat GPT. I don't think I'm better than people. I genuinely don't use it because a it. It wouldn't help me. It doesn't really. I don't find myself seeking it out and needing it. I I've used it like twice. Once was to help Me draw up sides for a fake show. We were never going to make that we had Karen Feehan read for. It was just something that was going to take too much time. I didn't have time. But truly I don't use it. And I know people have jobs where like Katie, you're ridiculous. I have to use it. There's no way to avoid using it. And I'm not trying to judge because I really don't understand how it costs a bunch of water. I just hear that it does and that's pretty bad. But like we also all have bidets. I feel like that's gonna cost a lot of water. So I don't know. Not all, but a lot. It was a pretty popular thing, the house. I was out on vacation. It's one of Dan's favorite parts about it. Every toilet has like a really fancy, really nice bidet. And sometimes because it's a big.
Brady
What's that rank among the romance of. That's where he proposed.
Katie Nolan
Well, here's.
Brady
That's where the bidets are.
Katie Nolan
It's normally. It's pretty high sometimes because it's such a big house and. Cause I'm supposed to be downstairs. He'll do it with the door open. And I honestly would rather the door be open when he's pooping than when he's washing it. That when I heard that noise, I was like, could you shut the fucking door, please? That's crazy. And I know.
Brady
Does the door have to be open?
Katie Nolan
I think it's just. Cause it's, you know, when you.
Isabella
So he feels.
Katie Nolan
He feels close to you and it's. I'm downstairs. Theoretically, he thinks I'm making a breakfast casserole, which was delicious, by the way and reheats deliciously in the air fryer. But the fact that I came upstairs and grabbed something and I hear the water twirling and I go like I know what it's hitting and I know what's happening. And I wish it just was a surprising moment of like no intimacy. Closed door, closed door.
Brady
He is completely silent while attending.
Katie Nolan
He is. And it was so great. Really good stuff. But anyway, that lady said she used ChatGPT. I just don't think you can do it. You don't have to say. It's just not good for. Look anyone's looking for any reason to say that women don't know how to do sports. It's really on a base level. We just don't have to say that you didn't think to do something strategically until a computer told you. Especially when the quote starts with you saying you asked it yourself, your own team's identity and what it told you, you went, I don't think that's true. So why would you listen to it when it tells you that other teams identities are such and such and how you should play against them? It just, I don't know. I think we're outsourcing too much of our thinking to computers too willingly. I know that's like an old. That's like my boomeriest take. But AI and I, we don't other unless it's Allen Iverson. I don't really not into it, you know what I'm saying thing.
Chris
So that's where I'm at generally speaking. It's what a staff is for to try and figure out tactics and right.
Katie Nolan
That's how you lean on your people. You go, hey, what position analysis. Right? That's kind of the, the ideal goal.
Chris
That's the gig.
Brady
No ownership also. And the AI works. Then I look at the coach, I'm like, well what would.
Katie Nolan
What am I paying you for?
Brady
What do you do here?
Katie Nolan
What am I paying you for? If I can just have AI do it. And I just really worry in women's sports that they, that's, you know, when they're replacing not sending reporters to stuff. And I go, they're going to cut women's sports stuff first. And like the articles are going to game recaps are going to be written by AI more than sooner than an NBA re. You know what I'm saying? And so I just get nervous with like, can we just hold the line on the AI? Use it. Fine. I'm not trying to shame you or make you feel like you got to do something, but. But at the same time, hold the line. We don't have to let it do all of our thinking. I've seen people get in emotion, like getting in arguments with their loved ones and their text arguments. But now you can tell the one person in the argument is using chat GPT to argue their side. And you're like, can we not involve a robot in our. In our romantic dispute where they're like, as I've laid out previously with like Bullets, and you're like, bro, you're feeding this to chat GPT. This is crazy. The last matchup, Number three versus number six. This is the Portland Thorns versus the San Diego Wave. With their victory against Houston on Sunday, Portland moved up from sixth place to claim the third seed in the NWSL postseason. The Thorns have reached the playoffs for a record ninth consecutive season and will look to add a fourth championship since the league began play in 2013. In the second half of 2025, the Thorns have just two wins, one draw and four defeats when playing for playoff teams. That includes defeats to with Orlando and Gotham in their final five games. That should be an interesting series and I think it's shaping up to be an interesting postseason. Absolutely something to keep an eye on. Those are your basics. We will dive in. As the postseason continues. I feel the levels have been set.
Brady
Brady in addition to Sam Coffey, Portland has one thing no one else no other team has. And that's an S at the end of their goddamn name. Portland all the way.
Katie Nolan
Oh my God. Current Gotham FC Racing Pride Rain, thorns and wave. Oh my God. Brady's. I have a Portland Thorns jersey you can have, but it's.
Brady
It would definitely fit.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, it might. You don't know. Or you could cut it up the middle and make it into a button down shirt. It's. You could be fashionable if you wanted.
Isabella
These are all memorable names.
Katie Nolan
Find it somewhere. You like them all?
Isabella
I like them all.
Katie Nolan
Men's league did you guys see all the men's leagues, players associations? I don't know where to put the esses in that. Men's leagues, players associations feels right, but they all have S's and that cannot be right. So the Thorns, the men's leagues, players associations posted on social media. Chris, that's. You don't have to know this one, I guess in support of the wnbpa. So they basically all came out and said we stand with the players. Several men's leagues across the country, including the nflpa. The mlspa. Thanks for showing up. Appreciate that. The mlbpa. The NFLPA tweeted that they stand in solidarity with the WNBPA and its fight for a collective bargaining agreement that reflects the players undeniable impact on the league's growth. It's time for fair compensation, proper working conditions and a future that puts players first. MLB said we're standing by them. We're standing. Okay, okay. MLBPA said we're standing with players who are standing on business. I don't know. It's fine. Thank you for the support. You know is the type of. I just don't feel like that's how the MLBPA talks, if you know what I'm saying.
Brady
I can't say standing on business, but a labor union can.
Katie Nolan
Right. So that's why I'm. I'm trying to be. They're doing a nice thing. Brady. Okay. But I Don't think that Major League baseball players are. Who come to mind when I, I think who's the one that should be allowed to say they're standing on business when talking to the wnba? I don't know that it's Major League baseball, but again, we're pro baseball today. We're doing all. I don't want to. What a silly thing to have a note on, but it is a note I have. And then the MLSPA again a thing said. It's time for the WNBA to pay the WNBA PA players whatever an equitable share of the revenue they generate and mandate the professional working conditions they deserve. Pay them what you owe them. Them love that. Stand not on business, but by women stand.
Brady
So MLSPA can quote Rihanna, but MLB cannot pay them.
Katie Nolan
What you owe them is quoting them. They made T shirts.
Brady
Ah, fair.
Katie Nolan
They were quoting Rihanna. Of course. And you noticed and we appreciate. Thank you Brady, for knowing our culture. Rihanna and Beyonce are girl culture. And knowing them, we appreciate obviously also male culture in the fact that they have boobs. And that's anti woke wnba. Reigning WNBA rookie of the year. Everybody loves her. Paige Beckers has signed on to star in an upcoming star in an upcoming Apple original film called Jess and Pearl. Set in the world of women's basketball, the film follows two phenoms who forge an extraordinary bond as teammates until fame, competition and the ruthless business of college athletics threaten to turn their friendship into an epic rivalry. What if it turned it into a love story? Is that a possibility?
Brady
Would that hit you close to home?
Katie Nolan
That's what I'm saying.
Chris
Then where's the conflict? Then there's no story.
Katie Nolan
Well, what if they are? Before they turn into the rivalry, they turn into a love. What if it's friends to lovers to enemies? That's gotta be a trope, right, Isabella?
Isabella
Well, like I would know that.
Katie Nolan
I don't know. I feel like that's girl culture. I come to you with girl culture stuff you don't have to know. Same way you come to me with school culture.
Isabella
Of course there's a friends to lovers.
Katie Nolan
Thank you. She knows the pipelines. Midge. Ironically enough, Midge Purse was our romance novel expert who knows all about this stuff.
Isabella
She was.
Katie Nolan
She's like, oh, I'll get you set up. I think you might be friends to lovers. I was like, I don't even know what you're saying. I would love any advice that you have.
Isabella
I see you as a friends to lovers as well.
Katie Nolan
Okay, interesting. Could it be? Cause Dan was a good friend of mine. Before we.
Isabella
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Katie Nolan
Signed up to do this forever. This comes after Angel Reese made her own feature film debut with a cameo in House of Dynamite last month. Did anybody watch House of Dynamite?
Brady
I did.
Katie Nolan
Was it good?
Brady
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
I got caught in a conversation about it yesterday that I was like, I didn't know we were all watching it like this.
Brady
My wife hated it because she hates non linear storytelling. Like if she detects that you are jumping forward or backward in time, she's out immediately.
Katie Nolan
So she hated Westworld.
Brady
Oh my God, don't even. You throw in sci fi and she's.
Katie Nolan
Like, what is this? Yeah. Yes, I like that.
Brady
Won't speak to me for a week. No, I thought it was great. The super high tension. Like Katherine Bigelow making remark Act 1 better than Act 3. But definitely worth a watch.
Katie Nolan
Look at him with a fleshed out take. We didn't even know we were going to talk about this today. Was Angel Reese's cameo good?
Brady
She was playing Angel Reese. She didn't do a whole lot. She was playing basketball.
Katie Nolan
She wasn't responsible for the nuclear holocaust.
Brady
No, no, no, no.
Katie Nolan
Good, because that's what it's about, isn't it? Nuclear war. Is that what it's. No, it is.
Brady
No, it is. It is. It's just like angel stuck to Angel. There were no me bounds. It was not.
Katie Nolan
Well, that would also be sticking to angel if you were. Okay. And then we have some athlete dating news. I know. We just have to get to this because where else are you going to get this sort of information? Phoenix Suns. Jalen Green, who's 23 years old now has a tattoo on his back of his girlfriend. Important distinction there. Girlfriend. Some people also feel it's necessary for me to say that she's 40. I don't know if that matters. Drea Michelle on his back. We see this popped up in a video. We saw that he has her face tattooed on his back. What? I guess my first question is, what are we getting people's faces tattooed on our.
Isabella
Yeah. Face is a whole other level than.
Katie Nolan
Like name face to me is you're dead. I'm sorry. If I see a face on your body, I go, wow, you lost that baby or you lost that person. That's.
Isabella
Yeah, yeah.
Katie Nolan
Usually I'm thinking of it like an in memoriam.
Chris
Cuz faces change, right?
Katie Nolan
They change, they age, they. They become your ex girlfriend. There's a lot of reasons why. And so to me, when you're immortalizing some face on skin, usually it's either like a. I Don't know. A famous person, which I'm not endorsing, but I've seen or like this person died. What? I guess it's good that there isn't a. Sorry, let me just plow through the sentence. That there isn't a sexual position that comes to mind where a woman would be looking at a man's back in a prolonged type of way. Because I just feel like that would be so strange. So just. Well, yeah, I guess. I guess it's just like, what a strange thing to be confronted with. Like, I'm looking at me, I'm looking at me. I don't know why my face is on your body.
Chris
Oh, I like that.
Isabella
Be like, babe, just make me your wallpaper on your phone instead, please.
Katie Nolan
This is too much. At what point do you, the 40 year old girlfriend, go like, oh my.
Isabella
God, imagine if it's a photo of.
Katie Nolan
You that you hate. I'd be like, you should have confirmed with me first. I hate that selfie. It better be.
Brady
Imagine if it was a surprise entirely. It was like, hey, baby, guess what?
Isabella
I do.
Katie Nolan
I mean, that has to be one of the meanest times to break up with someone, right? Like on Valentine's Day. Ranks up there. But if they surprise you with a tattoo of your face and you go, that freaks me out. I'm out. That's immediate. They're like, well, what the. It's not even healed yet. I still have to take care of it. You better hook so it heals properly. Yeah. For real. My goodness.
Brady
The rest of his life he has to pick future partners based on.
Katie Nolan
I think we could adjust this like the Drake route.
Isabella
When he like changed, what was it? He had like SGA.
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah, change it to SGA. So weird. So we're 23 years old. I just don't. How can you have such little concept of your own age when dating someone twice your age that you put the face of that person, your girlfriend, on your back and you're. No. It's like you have lived half the life of her. You think this is forever. You just made it forever on your back. I don't know.
Brady
Maybe they're centered.
Katie Nolan
No.
Brady
So there is room for other women.
Katie Nolan
What a way to look at it. Like it's a birthday card. She signed the office birthday card in a small enough space that other people can also sign. I don't know.
Chris
When you put the dates at the bottom. Yeah, 20, 25 too.
Katie Nolan
Now it's really looking like death. Now that really looks like death. Seems like you had a baby who grew way too fast. Fast and then died. I just think in. In general, the tattoo didn't Pete Davidson just like erase all of his. And I'm sure that was very expensive.
Isabella
Yeah.
Katie Nolan
And it hurts. And it hurts. He got. Said he got knocked out for it so that he wouldn't have to deal with it. Which is really a psychological something else when you think about it, ain't it to have the thing removed that you paid to get. You have to get knocked out. Cuz it hurts so bad to take it off. He never had to have it in the first place. You can argue. Okay, other relationship news. Jackson, Blonde. Jackson Blonde. Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart, your New York Giants quarterback is. Was spotted at a Halloween party with extremely blonde Instagram influencer slash model Marissa Ayers, a name that did not immediately ring a bell for me. Isabella. Is that in your algorithm? No, unfortunately. And we're sorry about that. We don't. Our algos. I have to expand my algo to get some more of this influencer content because I do feel like it would be influencer concept. Me too. And I, I sort of felt like I, I did it. I felt like I engineered it that way on purpose. But I do think in this new era, these are celebrities and it's doing us no favors to act like we don't know who they are. So we'll get better at that. Chris is going to become our influencer expert. He's going to make his own social media just to follow because he has a fresh algo that won't be infected by anything else and it's going to just be all out. Actually, as I'm pitching this as a joke, kind of loving this as an idea. Chris, as our influencer expert, I might love. We'll revisit. But anyway, Dart reportedly recently broke up with Lola Sexton. How do you break up with somebody named in a way that's like. Well, she was hot. For sure she was hot. Or lazy. Because if your name Lola Sexton and you're not hot, fill out the paperwork, change your name. There's no. There's just nothing than Lola Sexton. My goodness.
Brady
The problem was Lola Sexton.
Katie Nolan
Oh, was she sexting other people? Is that what's being alleged?
Brady
No, the other way. They were. They were alleging that. Alleging Jackson was Sexton.
Katie Nolan
Other people. Other Lolas. Damn. He was Sexton. Other Lolas. She now lives in Salt Lake City as a hair stylist and she had dated Dart since their. What's wrong?
Chris
No, I will just say that if Jackson Dutt Decided before he broke up with Lola Sexton to get a tattoo of her on his back. Then he probably doesn't have an issue now that he's dating Marissa. Because what you're saying is a lot of similarities.
Katie Nolan
They look a lot alike. Interesting. So he has a type, which, yeah, I guess is the greenest light you can get for tattooing your lover's face on your back. I'd still hold off Jackson, if possible. She was a hair. She's a hairstylist. She had dated dart since their high school days at Corner Canyon in Draper, Utah. Those sound like fake places. Accusing him of cheating when they broke up in a since deleted Tick tock. So now he's been seen with an influencer, which I do kind of feel like is a word we just use for a blonde lady that clearly enough people know about and we don't know what she does. You know what I mean? I think we're saying influencer, and she might be like, I do such and such content. And you're like, yeah, I don't. That's. We're just saying influencer. It's just easier. It's too micro. It's a very. You have to know everything about everybody in all these little ecospheres, and it's just too many. So apologies if that's not her preferred title. She can send it to our email address if she'd like. F1 driver Charles Leclerc announced his engagement to his longtime girlfriend, Alexandra Saint Mu, I imagine, is how you're saying.
Brady
Can we get official pronunciations on these two?
Chris
Her name. Not sure his name. Charles leclerc.
Katie Nolan
Charles leclaire. I've been saying it. Charles leclerc. My entire time of knowing this guy. Because I don't. I'm not waking up to watch F1. And so I'm just go. That's an insane thing to have found out here on the podcast. And I want you to leave it in that I've been calling this guy the wrong name out loud in sports media.
Chris
Most people got for a bit. I think even a lot of people still call him Charles, but it's definitely Charles.
Katie Nolan
Pretty. Pretty rude. You didn't. Yeah, pretty rude. You. You didn't think of maybe finding out how the woman says her name? Ooh, sexism rears its ugly head.
Chris
That's what it is.
Isabella
Alexandra.
Katie Nolan
I know that. I know it ain't San Mo. I know that. But probably I feel like m. So they're engaged. Congratulations to them. And then last one in celebrity athlete couples, Shaun White, who famously He's a snowboarder. The flying tomato, I believe, is what we call them. Right. He was dating Nina Dobrev. They were engaged. They were a long engagement. In fact, some people in the room may have held them up as a long engagement that was clearly just fine. They're just delaying.
Isabella
And I think they were friends to lovers.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, they were just delaying planning their wedding because maybe Nina was also overwhelmed by how many options there were. I was like, look, it's normal to be engaged for a long time. And then they broke up because apparently he cheated. Cheated is what she said. Alleged. And so I was like, well, not great for people who've been engaged for a long time. Now Sean White is reportedly dating Tick Tocker, which is another word for influencer Eli Withrow following his breakup. And it's only a couple weeks after they ended their engagement in 2020. September of 2025. And then Nina dressed for Halloween this year as Jennifer Tilly from Bride of Chucky. That's fun. She's very pretty. She was great in. In Degrassi's where I know her from. I know she's Vampire Diaries. I remember being younger and watching Degrassi and going, that's the prettiest girl I've ever seen. And. And Shaun White allegedly cheated and has already moved on, so that seems par for the course for him romantically, I believe, if the gossip rags are to be believed. And who's to say?
Brady
Trying to process Eli Withrow as a young, attractive tiktoker, not like a civil war general.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I can't picture. I don't know. Did. Is that in your algo? Isabella?
Brady
What?
Katie Nolan
Eli Withrow.
Isabella
I don't know who that is.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, so, no, the only influencer I.
Isabella
Follow is this one named Monet McMichael. And that's it.
Katie Nolan
Oh, yeah. I think I've got probably a couple. I follow the girl who always tells you how to do cheap dupes of makeup products. I.
Isabella
There's a good amount of those. So I don't know.
Katie Nolan
Nina Pool, I think. And then I also have another lady who I do fine. I have a couple ladies I like.
Isabella
We'll share afterwards.
Katie Nolan
We'll share afterwards. I just don't have their names in front of me. Okay. A couple more stories, I swear I'm gonna let you go. And I. I do hate to talk about politics, but it did kind of come up this week. I don't know if you saw this story that Governor Kathy Hochul, New York governor, appeared at a Mom Donnie event in Forest Hills. Stadium in Queens. And when she arrived the it was the New York is Not for sale rally was the name of the event. And she arrived and the crowd started chanting, tax the rich. It was a pretty uncomfortable moment. It's sort of representative of what's happening with mom Donnie bumping up against the party that he's running under. Blah, blah, blah. We're not getting into that. This is a sports podcast. What I want, I will say is it was uncomfortable and it felt uncomfortable. And then afterwards, when pressed by a Post reporter, Governor of New York Kathy Hochul said, I thought they were saying let's go Bills. We're going to play now for us to hear and let's decide if this sounds like let's go Bills.
Isabella
It's going to be one of those things where whichever one you hear in your head.
Chris
No, it's not.
Isabella
Oh, it's not. Okay, okay, okay. I stead corrected.
Katie Nolan
Let'S go Bills defense in the sense that 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3. That's the only way you could think it sounds like let's go Bills. And even then, it assumes that you've only ever heard the 1, 2, 3 format of a chant for the Bills. You think this is like some unique Eagles. Eagles. It's like, no, this is just a three part chant. Very commonly used.
Brady
She said, I know they weren't saying let's go Jets. I jumped right to this.
Katie Nolan
Right. The rich, I guess because they sound like Bill.
Chris
When you're in a political environment, it could really go either way between let's go Bills and tax the rich.
Katie Nolan
Can you imagine a crowd of people being that rabidly pro Bills at a political event in Forest Hills, Queens? Like even it just doesn't add up in any way that makes sense. And I just wanted to mention that because she said Bills and that's sports. And it's funny. Speaking of sports, now that I have opened the door, I just have to say A.J. mcCarron, who is the former quarterback of Alabama and now Isabella, this is for sort of like the tail end of Alabama on this crazy run of like just they are so good. Dominant in college football. AJ McCarron was their quarterback and didn't pan out in the NFL. I'm gonna take a stab. Was it the Bengals? Where did he go?
Brady
It was the Bengals.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. It didn't really pan out for him there, but he is most famous for, I guess, having a hot girlfriend during that game that Brent Musburger was calling. But being the quarterback at Alabama, he announced last week that he's going to run for lieutenant governor. It was this announcement of him running comes on the heels of a lot of athletes getting involved in these political things. We also talked about potentially ESPN college football radio host Paul Feinbaum potentially running for office. It's just like a thing we've been talking about. He, his opponent pointed out he hadn't even registered to vote until a few days before he made the announcement.
Isabella
That's funny.
Katie Nolan
He hadn't registered in Alabama, had not registered in other states where he lived during his NFL career. Crazy roll Tide. That is an immediate own and if he wins, that to me is absurd to have. He also came out and publicly endorsed, I think Trump a couple like last the election. He didn't win. I just know he's thrown out endorsements in the past and then is openly proving he did not vote. Even when he endorsed a candidate, he wasn't even. He didn't even think about figuring out being registered to vote. That demonstrates a pure lack of giving even a modicum of the shit. And the fact that you're not embarrassed to have to register so you can announce is like, you should go, well, we can't. I should have thought of this. I should have thought of this ahead of time. They're not going to let me get away with this. And so I'm saying this to say do not let him get away with this. That's crazy. I don't even know what a lieutenant governor does. I don't care. I bet he doesn't either.
Brady
I mean it's his NFL career prepared him to run for backup governor.
Katie Nolan
Is that what it is?
Brady
Pretty much.
Katie Nolan
Governor.
Brady
If the governor dies, the vice governor, governor, assistant to the regional governor.
Katie Nolan
Let's go, Tide, let's go. No, they're saying eat the rich. You're not, you're not hearing it. Pause properly. This is a three hour podcast and Crystal has to let us know what to watch if we want to watch sports this week. So I, I say we hit a quick break and when we come back, Chris will run us through three of the events we can watch this week if we feel like watching some sports. We'll be right back.
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Katie Nolan
Okay, let's do this quickly.
Chris
Okay, the first thing to watch, if you want to watch sports this week, now that baseball is over, it's college basketball season. Katie.
Katie Nolan
Oh my God, that's right. That's basketball. Today, Monday.
Chris
Today, Monday. We are recording this on Monday. So it started back today. We have a big match tomorrow as we record. So today, as you were listening, women's college basketball. This is a big game. Number eight, Tennessee against number nine, North Carolina State. That game is on today, Tuesday at 4:00pm Eastern. You can watch that game on ESPN. And that is going to be played at the Greensboro Coliseum. I will be there. So I'm looking forward to seeing this game in person and I'll let you know all about it once.
Katie Nolan
Very exciting. You'll have to issue a report. I need you to take notes.
Chris
Certainly will.
Brady
If anybody's hearing this and going to the stadium, just wherever you are, just loudly shout, aussie, Aussie, Aussie. You will find this man or start.
Katie Nolan
A Tax the Rich chant. He'll know you're talking to him. He'll know it's him that you're talking about. All right, so that's women's college basketball. What else?
Chris
Men's college basketball, of course. Number 19, Kansas against number 20, five UNC Tar Heels. Friday, November 7th at 7:00pm Eastern on ESPN. It's top 25 matchup. The first top 25 matchup of the season comes on Friday night. It's going to be a lot of fun.
Katie Nolan
May I just say what's frustrating is that this is supposed to tide us over now that baseball's over, as you said. And I don't normally start caring about college basketball until March, which is when I plan to start caring about baseball again. So that timing's really not working out for me.
Chris
That's why I go to get you into it now.
Katie Nolan
And you're doing such a good job. It's not working yet, but it will. It will eventually.
Chris
Because you left me three minutes at the end of the hour.
Katie Nolan
You're so right. And how dare I? On my podcast, how dare I? Give us a third thing. And it better not be college basketball.
Chris
I can promise you it's not college basketball. It is the sport that Charles Leclerc is a star in. It's Formula one. We've only got four races left on the calendar, including this Sunday's race.
Brady
Race.
Chris
November 9th at 12pm Eastern. It's the Brazilian Grand Prix. It is a very tight race in the truck.
Brady
The track is much smoother.
Katie Nolan
Wow. Brady. What the. Isabella.
Chris
Isabella just left.
Katie Nolan
I wish. I wish I wasn't alone for that. I really wish. Sorry. Isabella's working on something else. We'll just let it sit. Go ahead, Chris. Leave it in. But keep going. My God.
Chris
Lando Norris has taken over the championship lead from teammate Oscar Piastri, which isn't great news for me.
Katie Nolan
Two names I've been saying correctly, though, and that's great news for me. I have been saying. And Max, can I take a swing at the next one?
Chris
Sure.
Katie Nolan
Max Verstappen.
Chris
Perfect.
Katie Nolan
I. I've been nailing it. It's just the only one I had to say.
Chris
Yep. Shallow Clue, I think is in fifth. And then Russell George Russell would be in fourth standings. So it's going to be a very close race to the end. Going to be a lot of fun. We are officially in the pointy end of that season, so make sure you check out that race. Sunday, November 9th at 12pm Eastern.
Katie Nolan
Here's the thing. I think I could check that out. Oh, because it's not.
Chris
PM's a good time.
Katie Nolan
Sometimes they're really early. Sometimes it's got the. The Premier League issue where I'm like, I'm not waking up at 7 to watch that game. I'm just not match Sorry. I could watch that. It is a. It is a football Sunday, so at one o' clock things will get a little complicated, I imagine. But I'll at least watch the beginning of that race. I could do F1 at its pointy end. I could let it poke me. You know what I'm saying?
Chris
It would enjoy to have you.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, great. I don't you know what? Regret. So thank you everybody for listening to this episode of this podcast. It's about two hours long and that's because we love you. Thanks for hanging on with us for baseball season. Hope you all enjoyed it and had a good one. Congrats to the Dodgers and all of our condolences to the the Toronto Blue Jays and their fans. What a season. A real shame, but we'll be waiting with bated breath to see what happens next year. That's it. We'll see you on Thursday when we will have Mad Dog Chris Russo here. That could go either way. I think it's going to be one for the ages, but we'll find out together on Thursday. Thanks for listening. We love you. We mean it. Bye. You know how taking care of your.
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Episode: The World Series, the NWSL Playoffs, and a Legal Quantity of Pelvic Thrusts
Air Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Katie Nolan
Guests/Regulars: Isabella ("the sports newbie"), Brady ("the Australian, not woman"), Chris
Podcast Theme: Making sports accessible, playful, and fun for all fans
This episode centers on the thrilling conclusion of the 2025 World Series between the Toronto Blue Jays and Los Angeles Dodgers, with an in-depth, play-by-play recap of Games 6 and 7. The crew also covers NFL news (with a special on unusual touchdown celebrations and Cardi B at the game), NWSL playoffs, quirky sports and celebrity culture moments, and ends with a guide to the week’s must-watch sports events. The tone is irreverent, welcoming, and filled with humorous asides.
Main Theme:
A whirlwind series, culminating in an all-time Game 7. The Dodgers take the title, but not before an avalanche of drama, controversy, and stand-out performances.
Game 6 Controversy:
Game 7 Heartbreak & Heroics:
Emotional Fallout & Player Quotes
The Postseason in Retrospect
Rico Dowdle’s celebration homage: [62:10]
Cardi B Sits with Bob Kraft! [55:06]
Playoffs Explanation & Teams [70:26]
Format Details & Viewing:
Sydney Sweeney at the World Series [66:50, 69:00]
Celebrity, Athlete & Influencer Relationship News [87:13]
Political Crossover & Sports [97:05]
If you didn’t catch the postseason, this is a stellar episode to get all the drama, human stories, and absurdities—not just in baseball, but across American sports this week. Highlights include the controversy-filled World Series finale, goofy NFL celebration rules, and a pragmatic primer for the upcoming NWSL playoffs.
Closing note: Even Isabella, the “casual” sports fan, is won over by baseball’s drama—proof the show’s mission is working!
For direct questions, show feedback, or to share your favorite postseason moment, call the show at 646-810-0043 or email casuals@katy nallmail.com