
Hello! It’s the podcast that knows the PROPER way to kiss a Spider-man. Today, Katie and the Casualties discuss the best and worst of the World Cup’s Round of 32, from England squeaking by DR Congo and Croatia losing by a hair to Portugal, to the utter joy of rooting for the Cabo Verde squad. (Most of them.) Then, Isabella breaks down her Wimbledon superlatives and Rory McIlroy’s incredible wardrobe choice at the All England club, and the team gets into the Taylor Swift-Travis Kelce wedding, the guest list, the fanfare, and who would sit at our dream tables, the Fourth of July White Party, Ice Spice’s PR team, and acceptable vaping distance, Jorge Posada and when baseball became truly unwatchable this week, and a deep dive into the Marlins’s decision to pull Eury Perez after seven perfect innings. And Chris wraps the show with a look at what to watch in sports this week.
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hey, Isabella. Happy Fourth of July.
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Happy Fourth of July.
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Did you watch that hot dog? You didn't?
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I'm over it.
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Yeah, I think I am, too. But I also think I say this every year. I think this was my last year watching it.
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Well, because last year was my first year even really discovering it. And I was like, wow, this is so interesting. And, like, I was watching it and the allure is gone. I'm like, all right, dude, don't be a weirdo.
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Yeah, it's the. It's the two hot dogs at a time for me. Joey Chestnut won, we should say the sports of it all. He won his 18th mustard belt. 66 hot dogs in 10 minutes. And while that is impressive, and it is 17,820 calories, but who's counting 10 off of his world record? He beat the next guy by a bunch and didn't set a new record. And so for me, it was sort of when I realized, like, I was just watching a guy eat way too many hot dogs to be worth watching, but not enough for it to have set a record. And so I was just like, what am I doing? I should just go outside. And so I say this, and I'm still probably gonna watch it next year. It's just so.
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Yeah. And especially in this heat wave. Ah, yeah, nasty.
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So one of the guys ate, like, six hot dogs. I was like, that's the move. Just take the free hot dogs. What stood out to me this year was that they make these beautiful young stand right behind these guys, shoving again two at a time and then dipping buns in water. And these poor girls are like, look over their shoulders and are like, okay. That's eight. And then they have to hold this. They're, like, clearly choking back vomit. Let's get just, like, set those girls free.
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Why?
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Why do they. Are they getting paid to do that, you think?
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Probably not.
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Certainly not enough.
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I think we need to find him competition to make it watchable. I think 2027 needs to be chestnut versus a bear.
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Brady train. You said if you get a year.
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Yeah.
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You could train to be good at something. Here's your chance. Step up and start eating hot dogs. You think you could do it?
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I think I might not make it to a year and a day.
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Right. But that's okay. It would be what we needed from you. And then we would send you off to Valhalla with a hot dog on your chest.
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I think I'm already overconfident that I could do, like, 20 right now.
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Yeah.
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I love this.
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Why did I even throw that away? I don't want to prove that. I don't want to prove that at all.
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The hot dogs. Next year, let's make a podcast. This episode is presented by Xfinity. Hello and welcome to Casuals, the sports podcast. Doesn't care what you know. We're here to get you caught up on everything going on. Cause sports are fun and they're for everyone. And this podcast is also for everyone. I'm Katie Nolan. I host it, joined today by the Casualties, the production crew here at Sirius xm. We have our sports newbie, Isabella.
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Hello.
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We've got buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, ba. Brady.
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What's up?
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And our master editor, Chris.
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I like going last. This is good. I thought it was just going to be a one off when I came back, but this is the third time
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it's lost its rhythm. Because you guys both have titles. Brady just has, like, a consonant.
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I just have a stutter.
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I know. Well, because we used to call you the guy who knew everything Brady. And not only did you take issue with it, you got stuff wrong a lot. So then we had a lot of burden. I know. Well, somebody's got to do it, but unfortunately, nobody does it here. We try our best, and that's a good time to let you know how you can reach us if we get something wrong or if you're mad at us. Our email is Casuals with Katie nolan gmail dot com. Our voicemail is 646-801-0043 on IG and TikTok at Casuals. The podcast. What's on tap today? Well, we got a swifty Wedding. We gotta talk about the wedding. I know it's been talked about quite a bit. We've got our own fun spin on it to deal with their nuptials. Congratulations to them, by the way. We get the Jaylen Brown trade. I've been avoiding talking about this, but the time has come. Chris and I will have to address what the Celtics are up to. Hopefully Chris has some answers because all I've got are questions. We've got a special little Isabella segment. We're going to Isabella Corner to hear what's going on with Wimbledon. And we will get to all of that in just a little bit. But first here, up top, obviously, World cup fever. We've all got it. We're all watching more soccer than we've ever watched. I'll say I had a clip go a little bit viral. Are we still saying that? I had a clip go a little bit viral from the radio show fan service, which you can listen to every day, noon to 1 Eastern on Mad Dog Sports Radio on SiriusXM. And it was about, you know something, it doesn't matter was what it was about. The comments have now taken over. And every single day my notifications on Instagram or are just a number of people telling me that it's football, not soccer. And I am so sick of hearing this from people. Have we passed the point where you check the comments and if the thing you wanted to say has been said, you don't bother to say it? Are we past that as a society? The amount of people acting like they're the first person to say it starting to really. Starting to really surprise and annoy me. What is that?
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The type of person who will check the comments is usually not the one that has a loud comment to make. Yeah, those ships do not intersect in the night.
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It's just crazy. No one goes, you know what? I'm looking and I'm seeing a lot of the same. I guess my comment isn't necessary. No one's doing that. They're all just continuously telling me that it's football, not soccer. And so I feel it necessary to say here at the top of this podcast, we call it soccer here. And I understand that in other countries it's an international game. I understand it's not even that popular here in the United States. But like, football is. We already have football. And I'm not going to call that American football. That feels a little insane. So we're just going to call it soccer. And I. I'm so bored with the discussion about what to call it. And I. I'm. I have a hard time believing people are still this offended by it. But I guess if you are, I gave you the contact info. Reach out, flood my other channels with it, because I just. Whatever. We're calling it soccer, and we're fired up about it. Now, listen, the round of 32 concluded on Friday, and what a thrilling slate of games it was. Here's the thing. The World cup previously was just 32 teams. It used to be 32 teams got in. And so the round of 32, I'm doing air quotes, was like the group stages. This was the first time we got this round of 32 that had a lot of teams that don't normally make it this far. That's why you may have heard in the coverage of these games, a lot of people say this is their first knockout win in a while. Because the tournament expanded this year to 48 nations, we got this round of 32 after the group stage, and I just wanted to make sure that we remember each and every one because we had some great games in the round of 32. So to commemorate the round of 32, I have ranked all 16 matches from 16 to 1, and we will go through and discuss each. Now, some weren't that, you know, are gonna be quick, but there's a lot of really good ones in here, and Isabelle is gonna help me out.
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All right.
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I don't know if you want to, like, put on a fun voice or anything. You're gonna just help move the list along by announcing the numbers. So before we go, without further ado, this is all matches from the World cup round of 32 ranked from 16 to 1.
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All right? And starting off with number 16.
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Great. Fantastic. Number 16. Switzerland beats Algeria 2 nil. Algeria obviously barely squeaked into the round of 32. They had that 33 tie in the last match of their group against Austria. So they. They barely made it in. And then two nothing. This was a fine match. Number 16.
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Oh, what's. What's before 16? I think it's 15.
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Spain versus Austria again. Austria barely squeaking in. They had that three three tie against Algeria. Spain won three nil. Pretty decisive, not exciting. I only ranked it above the first one because Spain has more interesting players that I guess I care about a little bit more. Next.
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Katie, let's do some math. What's seven times two?
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I'm not supposed to say the numbers, so I don't want to say. You say, oh, don't be boring. 14. Okay. Fantastic.
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You made this work.
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This is wild. This Is a wild way to do this, but I look forward to it. Continuing. Number 14. Colombia beat Ghana 1 nil. This was the. This look, it's not really this match's fault, but this was the last match of the round of 32, and it came on Friday after some incredible matches. And so one nil, kind of a dud. I was also feeling kind of over it, ready to move on to the next. And so this one gets ranked at number seven times two, I guess. Perfect. On to the next.
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All right, number 13.
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What, are you mad now?
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Prime number. Thank you.
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Okay, number 13. She's not excited anymore. The bit has been exploded. At number 13. France beating Sweden 3 nil. Again. 3 nil. Pretty decisive from France. This is actually Sweden's earliest elimination in the World cup since 1990. So there's that headline. But we were as an apartment, rooting for Sweden here because Dan Soder Suder is technically from Sweden. And so it was a bit of a dud, kind of a disappointment. I ranked it higher than the others before it because Didier Deschamps, Francis coach, came back in this match. He had left because his mother passed away, so he left the team during the group stage, but he came back during this match and there was like a sweet reunion with the team and they celebrated with him. So that's why I ranked it here at number one.
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Bonus points on this one. If you are one to just show up. You just want to see stars play like stars. You do get that with France. Like France has like Mbappe has showed up and played like the dude. He has played like the best player in the world, which is what we expected. If that's what you're here for, you just want to see one man take over. I will give credit to any France game. They can make a 3 nothing game exciting.
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It's not just Mbappe, it's also other guy.
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Dembele.
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Dembele, Dembele. What a great. Just what a great name. A lot of great names. A lot of fun names to say. Killian, honestly, as a first name is so underrated. I don't feel like enough people are talking about his name being Killian. It's very sick. So anyway, that's why France is at number 13.
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Number 12.
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Oh, now this is what I was looking for. At number 12 in our ranking of every match from the round of 32, we have Canada against South Africa. Canada beat South Africa 1 nil. It was 00 for most of the game. The reason it's ranked pretty high when that sounds Rather boring is that Canada finally did score in stoppage time. It was the 92nd minute and it was thrilling. Canada went absolutely nuts. They've got an American coach who, who's just very animated. It was like a huge release when Canada beat South Africa. But, but it's, but still it was nil. Nil for most of the game. So that's why it doesn't crack our top 10. But congrats to Canada on that.
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The Jalen Brunson match. It's number 11.
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Nice. I love that sports crossover. At number 11, we have Mexico beating Ecuador 2 nil. Mexico scored in the 22nd minute and the minute in this. So if you're looking for drama, there wasn't necessarily a ton. It was, they had two goals for most of the game and that's how it ended. But I ranked this one higher and this is where maybe the integrity of the rankings gets called into question. I ranked this one a little higher because for me, Mexico fans have kind of been one of my favorite stories of this tournament. Mexico, obviously one of the host nations. The United States, Canada and Mexico. And you know, we've been talking about them quite a bit. There was before this match against Ecuador, the Mexican fans, we played this for you last time and I, and I promise we won't play it for you again because if you were driving or you know, doing anything peaceful when we played it last episode, I'm sure that wasn't enjoyable for you. But they went outside of Ecuador's hotel and made a ton of noise the night before the match to try to keep the players up all night. And I'm not saying it worked, but Ecuador did lose two nil.
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So I'm sorry, you meant this sound.
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I said we wouldn't.
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Katie said she wouldn't. I didn't.
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Damn. This is Isabella's heel turn this episode. Isabella is becoming the enemy of pod listeners today. And I kind of like the evil energy. Also Mexico, we talked about them chugging tequila with South Korean fans. They've been throwing people up in the air a lot. Did you guys see the story about the dog? There was this dog, Gorda, a six year old dog who belonged to I believe it's Ale Garcia. And Gorda disappeared from the Garcia's home on May 24 and three days later she put out a message that was like, I can't find my dog. Somebody please help me. Gorda is missing. The dog was gone for about a month and no sign of him. Her, him, her, her. Until a livestream of jubilant Mexico fans celebrating their win over Czechia, nine miles from where the dog was last seen. You see somebody in the. In the crowd pick up a dog and is celebrating with this dog in the streets. And the woman's brother saw and recognized the dog and reached out to the woman, and they're like, I think I found Gorda. And they did.
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And Gorda was reunited, missing. I think she ran away at a party.
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Gorda was like, I gotta go be with my people. I gotta celebrate these wins.
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Evidence number one, that that may not have been the best household. They named her La Gorda.
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Yeah.
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That dog is just named Fatty.
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Oh, is that what that means?
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Yeah.
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Wait, so is a gordita just a little fatty?
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Little fatty.
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So every time I eat my cheesy little fatty Crunch, that's what I'm eating. I like it even more now.
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Show up and ask at the window. Can I get two little fatties?
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Two little fatties, please.
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I have never tried the Gordita Crunch.
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Yeah, stop the podcast. What do you mean? Have you ever been to Taco Bell?
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Yes, of course.
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Well, don't yes, of course mean you've never tried a cheesy Gordita Crunch?
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Because I'm kind of like, I like the same things.
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And what is it? What's the things that you like?
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I love a chalupa supreme.
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Very tasty. Beef.
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Yes. Everything with beef. I don't have any other meat at Taco Bell.
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Yeah. The only time I'll have the chicken is when I have that new taco that they have, the chicken cantina. No. Okay.
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Nope. I like the beefy five layer burrito.
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Okay.
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I do like a soft taco supreme is pretty good, too.
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Okay. But here's local tacos, a soft taco and a. It's like a, a, a. I'm not against it.
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I just haven't done it.
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You got to try it. Okay, that's my order is two cheesy Gorditas Crunch. That's what I get at Taco Bell because there's so no lettuce, though. Don't be gross. You know, And I'd also like to take this time to apologize to Mexico for discussing Taco Bell while talking about their match. Not what we intended to do at all. That was not at all the plan. It's just where we happen to find ourself. And if you'd like to blame someone, may I recommend Isabella?
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She calls it soccer.
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She calls it soccer. And it's been her all day.
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You know, listen, I'll walk out of this Studio right now. You can't.
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Legally, you can. I know I can. You have a whole segment today coming up in just a bit. Okay, we've reached the top 10. Okay, this is where things start to get interesting. Now, if you guys take serious issue with any of these rankings, I want to let you know, casualties. You can. You can hit me with a red card, and we can call any of this into question. Okay. You have the ability. You don't have to make eye contact with me when I say that. You don't have to, but you can, because I. I struggled with where to rank some of these. But let's jump into them. Isabella, where we at?
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10.
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That's right. At number 10, we have Brazil. Japan. Brazil obviously beat Japan 2 to 1. Uh, Japan scored in the 29th minute, so they were up 1 nil. They took that lead to the half. Some of us wearing our Japan kits really thought this was going to be it. Japan was going to win with an upset. But then Brazil scored the equalizer in the 56th minute. And then at what felt like the last possible moment, the 96th minute, Martinelli scored the game winner, and Brazil goes on to win. I've got it at 10 because while it was very exciting, it didn't go the way that I wanted it to. So that's where I put it. It's at 10. And we said goodbye to Japan, a place where, again, my father was born. Shout out. Beautiful, Isabella.
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Number nine.
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Number nine. We have Norway beating Ivory coast two to one. Norway had a one nil lead. And then in the 74th minute, against all odds, Ivory coast tied it up. I was with my family. We were watching at my. My apartment. We were very excited. This became a game. It was 1:1. And then that was only for, like, 10 minutes, because in the 86th minute, Erling Holland scored the game winner. That was his fifth goal in three games. Holland is another one of the stories of this tournament so far. He's been so exciting. He looks like a Viking. Isabella, you know what he looks like, right? You've seen Erling Holland.
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Yes, I have.
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Very striking. Mm, blonde hair. That's, you know, with the undercut.
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Yes.
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And they've, you know, Norwegian fans have been very exciting. People have been loving the. The row.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Chris, you were gonna say something.
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The Norwegian team is staying, or was staying. They were. They were stationed out of Greensboro, right near us. So all of Greensboro and the surrounding, you know, towns are all going for Norway in this World cup, along with usa, of course. But of course, everyone around These parts have sort of adopted Norway. You see Norwegian flags all over the place.
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And it's been pretty cool, your self included, would you say?
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Yeah, absolutely. And I like watching, you know, Holland play, so that helps.
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Did you notice Holland has two names on his. His kit on the back of his kit.
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I didn't notice that.
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I don't know the story behind it.
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I do. It's his mom's maiden name, so his dad was a famous soccer player. He played in the Premier League. And everybody knows that. Obviously he's Holland, but his mom's last name is Br. She was a famous pentathlete. And so he goes by Braut Holland because he gives his mom credit as well for how nasty of an athlete he is. Isn't that awesome?
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Oh, cute.
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Yeah, I love that. And literally, that is why I ranked this higher. This is. That was your number nine match in the round of 32. Isabella.
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Number eight.
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Number eight. We have England beating the Democratic Republic of Congo, also affectionately known as Dr. Congo, two to one. Congo had the lead for a while. One nil. They scored in the seventh minute. Shocking. And everybody was like, what's gonna happen? And it took a while for England to score. Harry Kane scored in the 75th minute to even it. And then about 10 minutes later in the 86th to win. But that match had an incredible performance from Dr. Congo's goalkeeper posse. He had an incredible save of a shot by Jude Bellingham, and then he also. He scored. Harry Kane, he. He saved Harry Kane's goal with his penis. He took it right. He took it right off of his junk.
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This game should be high.
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Oh, I saw that with the one where they jumped in the air and then, like, the ball hit his penis.
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It hit his penis.
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Yeah. Okay, I see.
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Brady, is that you pulling out a red card on this?
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Red card in it. This game should be higher. Why this game to. We were at halftime, it was one nothing Dr. Congo. And this looked like this year's version of the inevitable moment in every World cup where team England shits its pants. Like, this looks like this was the one where they had everything on paper and just kept firing every shot directly into the penis of the goalie. They kept doing everything they could to just not score a goal. They were like 1% away at every chance. And you look up the scoreboard, it was one nothing in half. It was. They weren't quite getting there. I. I was like, you know, I thought this game was going to come out. This is classic, where England comes out slow. I'll bet they'll be tied at half. It was one nothing. Congo was up. Congo's in a position to take this thing home. And you ended up having the stars. Had to come out and play like stars to get this thing done in the end. Like, Harry Kane had to go be world class. He had to go place two. This almost was the upset of the tournament. This really, like, England looked like they were about to get sent home and had to claw back. Like this one was a thrill ride.
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Okay, so I have it at 8, but Brady, here's what we'll do as I go back up as we keep going on the list. You can let me know when you go. This is where I think England should be. And that. That would have to move that other one to eight. I can still veto it because as we've learned and will get to, there aren't really any rules when it comes to the cards. You can suspend suspensions. That's a little tease for you because that match is coming up in a little bit. I will say England winning this match did give us one of maybe the matches of the tournament in the round of 16, but we're not talking about the round of 16 today. And so. But it. But we will eventually at some point. So that's number eight, Isabella, number seven. Number seven. We have. Chris, I'm really sorry, but it is your time. At number seven, we have Egypt beating Australia in penalty kicks.
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Hey, number 16 should be. Should have been 16. It's just terrible.
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Overruled. This was exciting. This is our first instance of penalty kicks in this ranking from the round of 32. It wasn't the. It wasn't the like chronologically first. But it does allow me to ask the question. How do you say the score when it's penalty kicks? Do you say they beat them 1 1, 43 in penalty kicks?
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Like, how do you say I beat them 4:2.
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And they beat him 4:2 in penalty kicks. Yeah, but then you never acknowledge out loud what the score was when it went into pk and nobody cares. It matters to me.
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The score was. I don't know. I'm the wrong person to ask.
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I know the score was 1:1. The score was 1:1 going into penalty kicks, which you would think means that Australia scored a goal and Egypt scored a goal. But what actually happened was that Egypt scored a goal and then Egypt scored an own goal on themselves that obviously they gave to Australia. Now, did you watch this whole match, Chris?
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Of course. I haven't missed an Australian game since 2006.
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Oh, what happened.
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Do you remember the exact date?
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Well, because Australia first made the World cup in 2006 for the first time in my lifetime. So I've watched every single Australian World cup game.
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Gorgeous.
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Beautiful.
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Really beautiful. I agree. Absolutely stunning. So did you see the own goal from. Is it Hani? Muhammad Hani.
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It was a great cross, though, from the Australian player. So I think if the Egyptian play didn't get his head on it, I think maybe it still could have gone through from another Australian player.
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You would say that. Yeah.
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So giving us credit, that was. That was. That was a wicked cross.
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Yeah. That guy also had been, like, knocked out moments before, so it was possible.
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He probably stayed in the game.
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That was crazy. It's crazy. And it's exactly what you don't want to happen when you let a guy like that stay in the game is that, like, on the next play, he scores his second own goal of the tournament, which, by the way, that we are now at a record of own goals in this tournament. But again, it's an expanded field, so I felt like that was probably bound to happen. Egypt won this game. It was their first knockout win ever. They obviously got their first World cup win ever in the group stages against New Zealand. Seems like they've really got it out for Oceania.
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I guess so. You know, although in the end, I felt like Australia, we did it to ourselves.
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Okay, so let's talk about what happened in penalty kicks. I have a lot of questions across soccer with penalty kick strategy, and I'm sure we will get into it a little bit more as we get into more PK games. But Australia. What was interesting here is that after extra time, right in that last minute, Australia subbed out their goalie who had played the entire match, and they brought in another goalie who not only played
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the entire match, played the entire tournament, played every single minute for Australia leading up to that moment. Then, with a minute to go in extra time, they subbed out beach and brought in Matty Ryan, who, before the tournament, I think, was widely picked to be our starting goalie. He has been our starting goalie for a long time. So it was sort of a surprise when Tony Popovich selected Beach to start instead of Ryan. But beach has had a fantastic tournament. He had given up three goals for the entire tournament. I guess four, including that match. Had a terrific save a couple of minutes before I got subbed out. One of the saves of the tournament subbed him out, brought in Matty Ryan as the penalty specialist, and then Maddie Ryan proceeded to not touch the ball for the entire duration of the penalty kick.
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He saved none. None of them. Why did he.
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What was the post game commentary?
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Which it would have been fine had Australia actually scored their penalties. Brought in Harry Sutar to take the first penalty defender. Then you had another couple. We scored the second and third. Then we brought in 18 year old Lucas Harrington. 18 year old Lucas Harrington, also another defender to come in and take the first fourth kick. Also missed. So two defenders coming in. Two defenders missed. I'm not sure why you would do that. Again, I am not a soccer expert. I don't know if this is a regular thing to bring in defenders to take penalty kicks. But from an Australian perspective who watched this game and saw two defenders missed penalties doesn't seem like a great tactic from my end.
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Yeah, there was a lot of this throughout the tournament where I was like, well, who decides? Because these are sort of crazy decisions. Another crazy decision decision. I heard a woman on the BBC was. Was telling everybody what happened. And, and you know, the Australian team affectionately referred to as the Socceroos. I think she thought that was the name of somebody who missed a penalty kick because it. It. She pronounced it in a way I've never even conceived of pronouncing Socceroos. No goals in extra time. Took it to penalties. But then Sicarius missed two pockets, allowing Egypt's Hossam Abdul Magid to slot.
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Sicaris.
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It's Sicarius. And then Sicaris missed the. I thought that was pretty funny. Okay, that's number seven.
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Number six.
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Number six. Okay, this is where I put the United States, Bosnia Herzegovina. This is. You know, obviously we're biased as United States men's national team fans. But I do think this was a good game. They won 2 nil. The big story was the, the. The Baligan red card, which we'll get to in a sec because there's been some development since. But he missed the. They. He had to leave the game. We had to play a man down for the last. What, Brady, 20 minutes?
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About that.
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Yeah. And he had scored the original. The first goal. So it was 1 nil when he was taken off. And then, I mean the, My. One of my favorite goals so far this tournament was that Malik Tillman free kick. Just beautiful. Gorgeous. One of those paths that the ball takes that like only it could. If it was any way left or right, up or down, it would have missed. But it just perfectly sliced its way into the net. Absolutely stunning and gorgeous. And I did like to see the way the United States responded to adversity. Something we had learned in that last match of the group stages against Turkey A was like, our subs don't really necessarily have it, and that maybe when everything isn't exactly right, we can't succeed. And so it was nice to see the United States respond and respond powerfully and look like a good team that did what they had to do to win the match. Should we talk about the Flo Baligan red card and the situation that has unfolded since?
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So it's so much more complicated than just saying the red card.
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I know. So Baligan was given a red card that a lot of people thought soccer experts far and wide, and then also us, and then also us losers who just like watching soccer every now and then thought maybe red was a little bit strong, especially because we had seen Lionel Messi, one of the stars of the tournament, do something similar to someone and go completely uncarded earlier in the tournament. But basically he stepped on the back of someone's leg and they went to VAR and reviewed it and decided, yes, this was, in fact, a red card. And as a red card means that you have to come out of the game now and also you're suspended for the next match. So that meant that Flo Ballion, who every game that he has started in this tournament, he has scored, correct?
C
Yep.
A
And he. That meant he was out for not just the rest of this game, but the next game as well. And like I said, while it was nice to see that the United States could rise to the occasion here, we're not trying to play without the guy that scores the goals. We need that guy. And on a BS red card, people were pissed. Now people were. People were pissed and not soccer fans. So then, of course, the United States fans got a little loud about it, but I'm with them. I agreed. I think it was a crazy call, and I think a lot.
C
So much more intentional in slow motion. Right when you go to the. When you go to the bar, like, every once you slow it down, it looks like he's very slowly smashing down. The back of the guy's face is
A
not supposed to use slow motion. That's FIFA's own rules. You're not even when they go to VAR to review it, they're not supposed to slow the footage down because of exactly what Brady's saying. It makes it look a lot more intentional, a lot more serious, a lot more dangerous, where in the actual moment, he had to put his foot somewhere and the guy's leg got in the way. That's my official statement. It was not on purpose. It was not malicious. It sucked. It was. It was bad. It could have caused injury, but the guy kept playing. Correct. And, and, and so it was. It felt like an a not fair red card. So, of course, after the match, United States fans were like, hey, soccer people who know stuff, help me out. Can we appeal this? And in general, it was kind of a complicated answer, but it boiled down to, no, not really. There's not really anything you can do. And so we all just kind of accepted it. Because what they said was, if you go to var, VAR is kind of treated like the appeal in the first place. So it's basically already been reviewed. So the odds that they'll go back and review it. So we all just sort of accepted it. And that was until Sunday. Sunday, you wake up and find out I stopped what I was doing.
C
I said, damn, it's like noon, Katie.
A
Yeah. So you wake up, you eat breakfast, and then an hour later you find out that. I said, dan, Flo Baligan's gonna play. And he was like, what? He came out, he put down his video games. That's right. We wake up, we eat breakfast. That's around 11. And then at noon, he's already in there playing video games. And I was playing my video games. I'm playing a Star wars game. That going pretty well for me. Anyway, I said, flo Baligan's gonna play. Come to find out. FIFA announced on Sunday that they would suspend Baligan's suspension. And. And that's not even the craziest part of the story. So they said, in line with Article 27 of the FIFA disciplinary code, the implementation of the match suspension is suspended for a probationary period of one year if Folairan Baligan commits another infringement of a similar nature and gravity during the probationary period. So if he does this again while he's being allowed to play, the suspension shall be revoked, which I assume they mean is the suspension of the suspension.
D
Yes.
A
And if you revoke the suspension of a suspension, that just means you're suspending someone. I understand how this is quite complicated. The suspension would be revoked and the sanction enforced without prejudice to any additional sanction imposed for the new infringement. They didn't explain why. They didn't say anything about why. They just said, we're going to put that on hold. Um, Belgium, not thrilled about this. And I get why, even just because they practiced and game planned, and then this was announced on their day off before the match. So Sunday was their day of rest and relaxation. I'm sure they're not at the Spa, but they're supposed to be resting and getting ready for the match. And now they're finding out that what they had game planned for was not the case. And so Belgium's coach came out and gave what I think he thought was a banger of a quote. I'm not much of a fan. He said, I didn't know that at the World cup, the 5th of July is actually the 1st of April. It's April fools bars. I don't know, tomato, tomato, tomato. It's like, I don't get it. Why are we focused on the date? Also, you say 5th of July, any American's brain is gonna go 4th of July. Like, we're not thinking about. Does he think, is. Is April Fools a bigger deal in Belgium? I actually didn't even know that was an international holiday. I assumed April Fools was a purely American thing.
B
Didn't we find out last year that it originated in England?
A
Oh, maybe. And guess what? I forgot that. I quickly forgot that also, anything that originated in England that I like is ours, and anything that originated in England, I don't like, that's theirs.
C
In the French speaking regions of Belgium, it is known as Poisson d'. Avril. April fish.
A
April fish. But it is celebrated July fish. He could have made a joke about that.
B
What it has, it has origins to 16th century France, actually.
A
Interesting. It's an incredibly French holiday if you think about it. So Rudy Garcia says that he drops that banger, he drops that bar. Then we hear from President Trump on Truth Social Sunday. Again, anybody else using that site?
C
The White House just screenshots what he says there and puts it on the platforms where people will actually see it.
A
And usually sets it to the music of a pop star who then has to come out and go, can you not. I don't want you to do this. So on Truth Social Sunday, Trump said thank you to FIFA for doing what was right and reversing a great injustice. President Donald J. Trump always caps on his own name. At a press briefing on Monday, this was on Monday, he admitted he called Giant baby Gianni Infantino to ask for a review. He said, all I did was ask for a review. I didn't say, you have to do this. This man is a smart, tough man, Gianni Infantino. He's a smart, tough man who looks like a baby and his stock has gone through the roof. What does that mean? Because the job he has done has been great. I feel like we have to have all the best players on the field
C
this is where we just went, fuck.
A
I know it pains me. I was like, am I gonna have to say, gulp? Thank you, President Trump, because I think we've all seen that clip that goes viral online of. Of a guy corruption, where he's like, corruption is only bad if it doesn't involve me. If I am a part of the corruption, I defend it, and that's how I feel. Look, the United States has been trying to get into the soccer world for so long. We've been wanted to be taken seriously by these other countries for so long, and I think finally, this does it. We got. We dipped our toe in and we said, we're gonna swing our power around. And the recipient of the FIFA Peace Prize, Donald Trump, picked up the horn and said, listen, giant baby, here's what I want to know. I would love to hear audio of Trump trying to pronounce Faler and Baligan. I would just like to hear just that part clipped so that we could play it. There's no chance he nailed that first try, right?
C
There's no chance he even tried. He's just the player, the big, beautiful player.
A
Our big, beautiful player scores goals. Our goal scorer. You must let him play. I also saw a report that they had put together a bunch of lawyers to try to lobby for this. And. And Infantino issued a statement on Monday confirming he spoke with Trump, but insisting. So let the record reflect. I know I joked that this was corruption. Gianni Infantino says FIFA's judicial bodies are independent and that Infantino had no influence over the FIFA decision regarding Baligan. So we don't know if Trump had any influence over Infantino, but that doesn't matter because Infantino had no say. The Belgian federation appealed on Monday. They asked for an explanation, and then. And then later Monday, they got word that FIFA had dismissed the appeal. They weren't gonna get anything out of it. And so Baligan will play in the round of 16. Now, there is precedent for this. FIFA's disciplinary code, section 27, states, quote, the judicial body. The judicial system. Who's that? Was that Dana Carvey? The judicial system. Anyway, the judicial body may decide to fully or partially suspend the implementation of a disciplinary measure by suspending the implementation of the sanction. It's so many words. The judicial body subjects the person sanctioned to a probationary period of one to four years. Now, we saw it recently, this year. This has already, this rule affected this World Cup. Cristiano Ronaldo received a red card during Portugal's final World cup qualifier back in November for elbowing an Ireland defender in the back according to disciplinary code that mandates a strict three match ban for violent conduct. I love that it says strict because really that word doesn't mean anything. So he got this three match ban which would have ruled Ronaldo out of the opening match of the World Cup. Instead, the FIFA disciplinary committee issued a suspended suspension and allowed Ronaldo to serve his one match suspension in a pre World cup friendly. And then the remaining two matches of the suspension have been held for a one year probationary period. So strict wear, but that is precedent. They gave no rationale and nobody really said anything because we weren't paying attention before the World Cup. Right? This happened in the World cup. Also in the World cup previously in 1962, Garrincha from Brazil received a red card in the semifinal and was allowed to play in the final. Now, back then, suspension after a red card was not automatic in 1962. A disciplinary committee would meet the next day and decide to suspend or not. And I guess they had decided not to suspend after both the Peruvian and Chilean presidents, the World cup was in Chile that year, intervened on his behalf. The referee that was set to testify as to what he saw in front of the disciplinary committee also coincidentally left the country that day. Reportedly there was a $10,000 bribe involved, but Brazil went on to beat Czech Republic 31 in the final with that guy playing. So there is precedent for it technically. And I choose to say, well, it's out of our hands. So looks like we'll just have to accept what FIFA has decided. And this is what FIFA has decided. I couldn't possibly have any other things to say about that. What number are we on, Isabella?
D
Number five.
A
Okay, number five. I have Belgium up against Senegal. Belgium beat Senegal 3 2. A disappointing final result that you might think, why is this ranked so high? I could not believe the way that this went. Senegal had a two goal lead. Senegal was beating Belgium two nil. They went up one nothing in the 24th minute. They scored again in the 51st minute. It was getting down to like the 80th minute. It gets to the 85th minute and I'm like, this game is over. Senegal's gonna win two nothing. Belgium scored in the 86th minute and then they scored again three minutes later to tie the game and send it into extra time. And then in stoppage time of extra time at 1:25 on a penalty kick, Belgium won. Unreal. An absolutely unreal result. I mean, jaw was on the floor. From the 86th minute on, my jaw was on the floor. I could not believe it was devastating. Very sad for Senegal. That was an awesome game. Until it wasn't. And so I ranked it at 5.
D
Number 4.
A
Number 4. I have Morocco beating the Netherlands in penalty kicks. This was one of the shockers in pks. Morocco eliminating Netherlands, a team with a lot of big talent on it. A a team that has a soccer history. The Netherlands took the lead. They scored in the 72nd minute. That was the opening of scoring. So nobody scored until the 72nd minute. And then in the first minute of stoppage time, Morocco tied. So shocking, thrilling, exciting. They go to the end of extra time, 120 minutes, and it's still tied 1:1. So they go into penalty kicks. Netherlands is up first. They score. Morocco steps up, hit the crossbar. So. So Netherlands is up 1 nil. Netherlands then hits the post and then Morocco scores. So it's tied 1 1. Then the Netherlands score. It's 2 1. Morocco scores. It's 2 2. The Netherlands miss. Morocco misses. And I'm watching these going, what? Who's gonna step up? What is going on? The Netherlands steps up, they kick it, is saved by the keeper. And then Morocco steps up and scores the game winner. The place goes nuts. Morocco wins and eliminates the Netherlands in the round of 32. A shocker. Did you guys watch this one? This one was crazy.
D
I watched Morocco and Canada was the one.
A
We're not talking about.
D
Okay, I'm sorry.
A
Please. We're talking. With the round of 32 today, I
C
was sad to see the Dutch branding go down because the bright orange is just so catching.
A
Yeah, it's very fun.
C
I'm gonna save this because I have other negative things to say about the next team.
A
But the penalty kicks of it all.
C
For penalty kicks.
A
Yeah.
C
If Katie Nolan lines up.
E
Oh, boy.
C
For World cup penalty kick, like everybody in their mind. You always see the data. It's like the last five penalty kicks that this guy has taken of going here, here, here, here, and here. And then some keepers, you see them run over and they get the data from the coach. And then some keepers are like, don't tell me anything. I'm just going to. I'm just going on vibes. Where are you going?
A
Where am I going to kick it?
C
Where are you going? Are you a run up and just hit it? Are you doing a stutter step? Are you getting fancy? I don't need Isabella because I know Isabella. You are twirling like a motherfucker.
A
No, Isabella and I both are doing the mo Sala Panenka. We're Gonna go straight down the middle, right up to the ball. Kick it right down the middle as the goalie dives off to the side. How. How. I know it wasn't for your team, Chris, but how thrilling of a penalty kick is that?
B
It was petrifying when he was doing it at the time. Like, man, this. There's no chance he's missing this. And then he stared down Manny Ryan afterwards too.
A
Egyptian king.
C
The little bloop down Broadway though, if you. If he. If the goalie doesn't. If he stops, it is the worst.
A
Yeah.
C
Cuz you have just hit the little soft one down center.
A
Yeah.
C
And it just gets delicately stopped.
B
Yeah.
A
That would be embarrassing. I would. I would make sure to not kick it over the net. That's what I would be. My. All my brain would be saying is like, do not miss the net. Like put it it on goal.
C
Head down, gotta lean over the ball.
A
Yeah. Although I'd keep my head up because sometimes guys are fully head down and they kick it and the keeper jumps before they kick it and they kick it to where the keeper jumped. I would have my head up. So if he kicked, if he dove to the left, I'd go to the right. I don't know. I'm. It's surely it's harder than I think it is, but I still think I'd be fine at it. Anyway, moving on. What number are we on? Isabella?
D
We are at number three.
A
Number three.
C
England would go.
A
Yeah. This. Okay. So you think England goes here?
C
I think England. Oh, no, no. These three would have been ahead of England. I think these three games I would have put ahead of the England Dr. Congo game.
A
Okay, so you would put it at four.
C
Yeah.
E
Okay.
A
I don't know. Take a vote. Do you guys agree?
D
Sure.
A
Isabelle is just saying. Chris,
B
I like to where you kept where you had it.
A
Thank you. Okay, so it stays where it was. Sorry, Brady, your red card is revoked and I'm suspending your suspension for the third suspension. So you'll suspend outside of the suspension and we'll talk about that after. Okay. What were we at, Isabella?
D
Say it again. Number three.
A
Number three. I have Paraguay beating Germany in pks. This was an elimination nobody saw coming. They tied one one. After extra time, they went to penalty kicks. I didn't write these ones all down the way I did for the last penalty kicks I went through. It's trying to keep the audio interesting, but I will say the guy who ultimately missed the penalty ta for Germany should not have been taking penalty kicks. This is where I first started to go, who decides who takes penalty kicks? And the story that was at least reported the next day was that people on Germany were actively saying, I don't want to be the one, and didn't know you could. I hate that. I didn't know you could do that either. And I hate that. And that would make me dislike you as a member of my team, because in that moment, I want you wanting that. I want you going like, I want to be the one who wins it. Not approaching it with the same frame of mind that the NBA seems to approach the dunk contest, where they go, oh, I don't want to embarrass myself. Oh, this could go worse for me if I don't do well. That's not the mindset of an elite athlete. I want you go and give me the ball. I'm gonna score. Not. I don't think so. Everyone will be really, really mad at me if I miss.
B
I honestly didn't know that you could say no, which is why it was strange when I heard people saying that Lucas Harrington was so brave when he said yes to taking it. I'm like, what do you mean? Everyone takes it. So having this context, I'm like, ah, good for him then. Good for this 18 year old to say, yeah, I'll do it. I guess. Why not?
A
Yeah, it's kind of wild. Brady, is this where you wanted to go into stuff about penalty kicks?
C
Yeah, I mean, the not wanting to take it, having the kid end up and just ending it on just missing the goal rather than having the keeper make an amazing save is always tough. I'm just so soured on Paraguay.
A
Yeah, I know.
C
It's for a game you don't want to talk about.
A
Yeah, I. This is the. This is why I ranked them third and the next game at second. Because Paraguay, while they are an underdog and it's crazy, they eliminated Germany, and nobody saw that coming. They're so such an unlikable underdog. They are the inverse, the spiritual inverse of a team we will talk about shortly. They are j. The way that they play, the attitude that they have, they just are like, okay. And again, we're not talking about the next round, but it did affect my. You know, they have kind of played that way throughout the tournament. And so while this was a crazy underdog story, they're not my favorite underdog of the tournament. And so I ranked them them at three, which I felt.
C
It's dirty. It's complaint after complaint. It's dive after dive.
A
And I know that sounds like a lot of soccer. If you're not watching a ton of soccer, that sounds like most teams. Paraguay is. That turned up to, like, a million. So they beat Germany. Eliminated Germany. Crazy shocking. But only ranks number three for the round of 32. Isabella, number two. Okay, now, this might be controversial. I thought you guys would take issue with this one, but I've got at number two, Portugal beating Croatia two to one. Now, on paper, this was. This all happened within regulation time. This isn't that absolutely insane. But this game had the most devastating ending I think I've ever seen in a soccer match that I've been watching live and that I remember. I know it's a lot of qualifications, but this was a devastating end to this game for Croatia. Um, four total goals in this match were called back because they were ultimately ruled offsides. So there was, like, so many moments, especially in a game that's two one where, like, leads seemed to be changing, and then they actually were called back. So there was a lot of that in this game. Croatia scored first. They took a one nil lead in the 53rd minute. Then there was a goal called back, I believe, for. For Portugal. And then eventually Ronaldo gets a penalty kick and scores in the 68th minute. This was the first goal in the World cup knockout stage for Ronaldo, which was a, shocking if you don't pay close enough attention to know that, but B, hilarious, because if you do pay close enough attention, Ronaldo's derogatory nickname among people who don't think he's as great as he seems to think he is is Penaldo. And the. And it has nothing to do with penis. Isabella, I saw you perk up like that might be, but it was that he gets a lot of his points and his. He scores a lot of his goals on penalty kicks that he gets from calls that he gets. And so for him to finally score, I saw someone say, it was as if God went here, damn, like, fine, take this. And so he scores. In the 80th minute, Croatia appears to take the lead, but that gets rolled off sides. Then they sub off Ronaldo. And in the 90th minute is when we find out how much extra time we're going to get. And it's 10 minutes because there's been a lot going on in this game. So it's 90 plus 10. In the 94th minute, Portugal, a guy who subbed on Ramos, scores a goal. And so they take a 21 lead again. That's the 94th minute. And as we've discussed before, that means. Because they scored and there's a celebration that, yes, it was plus 10, but it's going to be a little bit more than that because now there's, like, more stoppage time being added. So the game, the clock is ticking. It gets. Gets to 100, which would be 90 plus 10. Easy math for you. And the game is still going. It gets to 102 and change. And you're like, okay, this must be, like, the end of it. This has to be the last possession. Croatia has the ball. This is their last chance. If they score here, it's gonna go to extra time. If they don't, it's over for them. They go home, they score. It was the most exciting goal. The crowd went absolutely nuts. The commentators are like, the ball had come from somebody further away and. And then it might have hit a guy in the middle, might have touched his head, and. And then it reached the guy who scored the goal. And they're like, it wasn't off sides because when the ball actually made it. But they go to Var. They go to Var because someone alleges that the ball did hit that guy on the head. And if the ball hit that guy on the head, then the player that scored it was offside. If he didn't, then he would have been onside and it would have counted. And they reviewed it. We only saw one angle that I didn't love. And they decided that, yes, in fact, it did touch that guy's head so briefly, it didn't change direction. It was not consequential, except for the fact that you can't do that. And they called it back.
C
It just touched hair.
A
I was.
C
It just touched hair.
A
It was crazy.
D
It was also crazy. It's part of your body.
A
Yeah, I guess, technically, but it was.
C
Bald man would have incurred no penalty
A
to have scored on the very last possible second. Where they go if they score here. You know how many matches I've watched in this World cup where it's like, if they score here and they don't. But they did, but they didn't. And so it was so exciting. And then it wasn't exciting at all. Maybe I overranked it because I was so upset about that, but I ranked that game.
C
It was an intense. Because the Croatian fans also show up hard.
A
I know.
C
And the Croatian fans went from so high to have to sit and watch. Oh, wait, maybe this is gonna get reviewed.
A
I know.
C
Then it gets turned crushing.
A
I know, I know. We've been going for so long. Isabella has to plug her Laptop in. But not before she lets us know we are at number one. Number one. And if you disagree with this, take it up with someone else. I don't want to hear from you. This so far, probably my match of the entire tournament. There's a lot of games left to be played, but I've got Argentina, number one in the world, defending champion, up against Cape Verde, Cabo Verde, number 67. This is their first World Cup. They are the smallest nation by population to ever make it this far. Their population, something like 565,000. They are a tiny island off the northwest coast of Africa. Oh, you have it in here. 530,000 people. Argentina, 46.6 million people.
C
Cape Verde is like half of Jacksonville.
A
Crazy. Argentina wins the match, ultimately, 3:2 in extra time. It was tied 1:1 after regulation. Here's how it went down. Cape Verde was down one nil. Then they tied it one one. Everybody's going nuts. Oh, my God. It's tied between these two teams. Then Argentina scores again. It's 2:1. Then. Oh, my God. Cape Verde ties it again. 2:2. That was the goal that had the craziest celebration. It was like the craziest goal I've seen. It was the craziest celebration. The guy who scored it, ran up into the crowd, waited, I believe was that his girlfriend, I assume, was trying to. Isabella. He ran up into the crowd. His. All of the fans were like, get back out there. Cause they didn't want him to get in trouble. He's. He's looking for someone, and a girl comes down and they kiss, and she's like, go.
D
Aww.
A
I had tears in my eyes. I was like, this is so sweet. That's totally what Dan would do if he scored that equalizer against Argentina. I know it. I know for sure he would wait to kill me in the crowd.
C
The goal of the tournament, too. That shot from outside of the box, far out. Just curled across the face of the keeper into the upper 90.
A
Gorgeous.
C
Insane goal.
A
Sydney Cabral. Absolutely incredible. VH, the keeper, who we've been talking about, 40 years old, had eight saves in this match. He's a free agent, by the way. Do you think this is that. Just wishful thinking that something like this is going to increase his value? Hell, yeah. I mean, he's 40, so I don't know.
C
Keepers can play. Keepers can play older. Like, he's probably got a couple years playing at this level, if for nothing else. Somebody cut this man a big check. He's got 27 million Instagram followers now. The world wants more Vizinha. Bring him in.
A
That's more than Tom Brady, by the way. He has more Instagram followers than Tom Brady. I believe that's Tom Brady's gonna take that personally, and we'll see what he does about it. More on him in a second. After the game, seeing Messi and Vizinha, that was very sweet. Messi congratulated him. Lazinia said, I went up to Messi after the game. He hugged me and said, you are great. Your people should be proud of you. That was incredible. For me, hearing words like that from someone like Leo Messi means a lot to me. I thanked him and said, thank you, Leo. You are the best. I asked if I could swap shirts. Leo said he would give it to me in the tunnels after the interview. No word on if that happened, but I would hope he's a man of his word. But that is exactly what I would say. If I didn't want to give you my shirt, I'd go, yeah, yeah. Find me in the tunnels. Great job again. Really good job.
C
He walked into the tunnels. It was just inflatable Lowe's, messy waiting for him.
A
And you can't take the shirt off that thing. I asked.
C
Here you get this giant inflatable version of Leola. It's even bigger than the real thing. Congratulations.
A
An incredible. When they scored that second goal to tie it again, I was like, I cannot believe this is gonna happen. It was also while the sky was opening up here in New York. I was heading home from a buddy's house where we've been swimming all day, and the sky was opened up and there was a rainbow. I saw both ends of which never happens. I saw fully array, and I'm like, this is it. They're going to do it. I'm, like, watching it, streaming it on a phone in the backseat of a car. And then they didn't ultimately end up winning.
C
They were the opposite of Paraguay. And every time they went down a goal, all they did was just bust their ass, play clean, play hard, get down the field and get another scoring chance. Like every day, you could not keep them down. They got knocked down by the number one team in the world and kept getting back up. Yeah, could watch. I wanted that game to never end. And it felt like five more minutes they score a goal, one more minute they score a goal because they had them on the ropes the whole way. And just the game happened to end when Argentina was up 3, 2.
A
It was crazy seeing Messi react when they scored. He was just like, what? He was like laughing. He's like, what?
C
And Vizinha stopping Messi on the free kicks.
A
Too crazy. Like, yeah.
C
Throwing their best punches at him. And Cape Verde, you could. They had an answer for everything.
A
They sure did. An incredible scene as the team returned home on Sunday. Cars were lined up, up to watch the team. I feel like the whole country was there welcoming them home on the tarmac. Pretty awesome. But that's it. That is the round of 32, ranked 16 to 1. An incredible round of soccer. I know there was a lot of commentary about the expanded field for the World Cup. I thought, look, and what does my opinion mean? But it is my podcast, so I will share it. I thought it provided some really great storylines. I thought round of 32 was awesome. Round of 16's off to an incredible start. And we will get you caught up on everything going on in that. That on our next second episode of the week, because I believe that they take the day off Wednesday. No matches at all. So we'll get you caught up on everything that happened in the round of 16. In our next episode, they also announced. Isabella, did you see this? That the World cup final halftime show is going to be Shakira, Madonna, and bts.
D
Ooh, interesting.
A
Okay, so the South Korean coach who was already in a world of hurt for getting knocked out of the group stage must.
E
Must be.
A
I think I heard he, like, he's hiding out in the United States because imagine if they could have made it. And BTS performing at the halftime show, a K pop band, and you got knocked out in the group stages.
C
Is Kid Rock also doing a halftime show?
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Probably a streaming platform. Probably somewhere. I'll look into it and I'll let you know. I'll give you all the information that you need. Yeah, for sure. Okay, we're going to take a quick break because this is already a full podcast. On the other side of this break, Isabella's got a segment for you. We'll see what that is. On the other side of a break, it's casuals. We'll be right back. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Even in 2026, stigma can get in the way of a lot of things, like getting support for your mental health. Maybe you've encouraged friends to consider therapy while avoiding taking the first step yourself because you're busy, worried what others would think, or telling yourself you should handle it alone. But therapy with BetterHelp, the world's largest online therapy platform, can be a space to slow down and talk through what's been building before it feels unmanageable. Just take a short questionnaire to identify your needs and Preferences and BetterHelp will handle the initial therapist matching work for you. Their industry leading match fulfillment rate means BetterHelp typically gets it right the first time. Feel confident knowing betterhelp therapists work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the United States. Don't let stigma stand in the way of support. Start therapy with BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off@betterhelp.com Katienolan that's betterhelp.com Katienolan Summer is the perfect time to rethink what clothes you're reaching for every day. With the warmer weather, you want lighter fabrics, better materials, pieces that just feel good the moment you put them on and look effortless. That is where Quints comes in. They focus on high quality essentials, thinking breathable linen, soft organic cotton, washable silk, but without the luxury markup. It's that rare balance where everything feels elevated but is still easy. And it's not just clothing. Quince has really become a destination for elevated essentials across home, kitchen, bedding and beyond. I mean literally. I just got a duvet cover from Quince but I also have sort of helped elevate my summer wardrobe with their 100% European linen collection. You can really get anything there, but use it to elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to quince.comcasuals for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q U I-N-C-E.comcasuals for free Shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.comcasuals this season everyone deserves a little
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And so I figured we would give Isabella a chance to let us know some of her favorite things that have been happening in Wimbledon. It wraps up on Sunday.
D
Yes, on Sunday.
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And so it's still ongoing. But here are some superlatives that Isabella has decided from the action at Wimbledon so far. First up, we have most likely to follow all the rules.
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So this one, I tried to find the nicest way to describe this superlative and I chose Rory McIlroy. Why? Because he wore his master's jacket to Wimbledon. Now, I don't know if this is a thing, Brady. I don't know if you wanna.
C
No one wears it anywhere. It's like, it's your trophy, but you don't wear it outside of the grounds of Augusta.
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I was like, imagine if Jalen Brunson went to the US Open and just had the Larry on his lap.
A
Ye, but low key.
D
I may like that, but you should do that.
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But Loki Jalen Brunson, you should probably do that.
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Apparently, back in January, on a podcast, Stick to Football, he had said that there's like rules on what you do when you wear the jacket. Like, you have to sign a document to take it off the premises. You have to wear a certain shirt, a club tie and certain trousers. And apparently you can't be seen, like, have a shot of you drinking alcohol in it either.
A
Damn. So he wore this to Wimbledon knowing that and he wouldn't be able to drink. That's pretty wild.
D
Probably followed all the rules because we haven't seen any, you know, news headlines of him breaking any.
A
So, man, that's crazy that he said all that in January. Which means definitely not the first time he's worn the jacket. Yeah, right. That's crazy. He's just out here wearing it to everything. There's so many rules.
C
Clearly, they want you to not wear it anywhere.
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Yeah, exactly. He said, don't wear this.
D
He did say. He said the only person that's allowed to bring the green jacket off the premises is the champion. For a year, it then stays in the club. It stays in your locker. And hasn't he been winning almost every year so far?
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So he's won a bunch.
D
Yeah.
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Chris, it feels like you wanted to take the opposite. You're fine with it. You would wear the jacket.
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Yeah, I. If. If I won the jacket, I get to do whatever I want with it. I can wear it.
A
It.
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I earned that, Right?
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Yeah, you're right.
C
It's a Stanley Cup.
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I mean, I don't care.
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All right.
B
Yeah.
A
Chris is like, I'm wearing it to bed.
C
Chris is the heavyweight boxer that's just wearing the belt everywhere.
D
Yeah. Do you think you're allowed to go to the.
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People got to know, you think you'd have to take the jacket off to go to the bathroom. That's kind of crazy.
D
When you return it, they're like, sir,
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you pooped in this. And we can tell. All right, next up for Isabella's superlatives. From Wimbledon, we have Most Likely to
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Never Give Up, Alex Ayala. Oh, my God. Okay, so she's from the Philippines. Philippine females love her. Right now. She's number 29, and she just recently got eliminated, but she beat Iga Swiatek, who's the number three and defending champion of Wimbledon.
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Incredible.
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Which is insane. But the thing that reason why I chose Most Likely to Never Give up is because in this match, she had an insane return, where during the rally, she, like, fell on the ground, and then she still somehow, like, crawled to the ball. And you. If you see a picture of it, she's literally in a plank with her hand, like, slightly holding her up, and returns the ball over the net.
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Absurd.
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Insane. I'm too lazy for that. So that's why they never give up.
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Can't relate. So she gets most likely to never. I love that. I think that's fantastic.
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She's awesome. I can't wait for her to do more.
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Yeah, we'll be looking forward to seeing her in the future. Okay. And lastly, we have biggest serve, because
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I got two reasons for this. One is, well, first of all, this goes to Naomi Osaka. Her outfits are insane. I mean, we've been seeing her do, like, these, like, walk on fits where it's like super elaborate. But this time because obviously Wimbledon you wear all white. She had this like white ensemble that was inspired by like I believe it was like a Japanese ceremonial dress dress that was designed by, I have the name here, Hana Yagi. I think that's how you say it. And there was like cherry blossoms on it. And if you, when she took it off, like her tennis dress also had cherry blossoms kind of like poking out of it I think in like mesh too.
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It was so pretty.
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And that's a serve. So cool. Is a complete serve she was serving. And then another reason why is because her serve during her match, her serve in general has been insane. But recently she beat Sabalenka who's the world number one which we all know, right? We all knew that.
A
We all knew that.
D
Yeah, totally.
A
She beat her in straight sets, right?
D
Yeah, straight sets. And her serve was just incredible. And I think that's what also really helped her in the tie break which was in the second set.
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So shout out her, shout out her for biggest serve. And then I got my little honorable mention. If I may tack on to the end of your segment.
D
Sure, go for it.
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Best hair for a romantic pair. I was watching the coverage of Wimbledon and I keep seeing, I didn't know Andrew Garfield and Monica Barbaro are dating.
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Yes, yes.
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The two of them have maybe the best hair in a couple I've ever seen. They are both just like with these gorgeous, flowy. It's like stunning and so it's got nothing to do with the tennis but I did want to shout them out for best hair.
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I mean Neither did Rory McElroy's green hair.
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Exactly.
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Best hair in a romantic pair.
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I, I, I co signed that.
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Hell yeah. Thanks Isabella. You're welcome. Okay, let's move on to sad stuff. Jalen Brown. Jesus Christ. This happened right after we recorded. We did all this stuff on NBA free agency last week and then find out. Oh, Jaylen Brown has been traded from the Celtics. Five time NBA All Star 2024 NBA Finals MVP Jalen Brown. In case you're going there must be another Jalen Brown. No, it's that one. One was traded to division rivals the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for 36 year old Paul George. Two first round picks in 2028 and 2031. I'll be dead by then. And two second round picks.
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A bucket of ass is what they received.
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Brown of course coming off his wasn't this like a one of his bets?
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Best seasons second team was his Best season statistically.
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Insane.
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Yeah. Fourth in the league in scoring. Now we had sixth in the league in MVP voting.
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Crazy. We had talked about him maybe being traded as part of that Giannis deal. When the Celtics were maybe going to get Giannis. It was a tough pill to swallow. Some people didn't like it because they said it put us in that same situation where you'd have two big contracts that you have to pay. And some people liked it because it was like you got to pay whatever you got to pay to get Giannis into the and. But so we didn't get Giannis. Just to recap, the Celtics did not get Giannis. He went to the Heat and then still got rid of Jalen Brown and in return got some picks and Paul George.
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Very underwhelming to say the least.
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However, okay, this is what I need.
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I trust Brad Stevens. I don't know if there's another move to be made for the rest of the summer where we can can flip Paul George and those picks to get something else. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know all of the information, but from initial, you know, view of what we got for Jaylen Brown, it ain't great. Now, the 2028 first round pick could potentially be really good because it's going to be the most favorable pick between a Clippers pick, a spurs pick, a 76s pick or a Celtics pick. So conceivably, if the Clippers end up being pretty poor over the next couple of years, which is relatively likely, this could end up being a top five, top ten.
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Oh, great.
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Pretty good. And that 2031 pick is an unprotected Philly pick. And by then they wouldn't have Jalen Brown on the team. You would think they wouldn't have Joel Embiid on the team. So again, that could be another potentially top 10 pick. So those are somewhat valuable market in your calendar. Guy who is. Is 30 years old.
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Oh, 30.
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30. And who has now gotten accustomed to the lifestyle of being the number one guy on a team. He said this year was his favorite year in the NBA so far. A year in which the Celtics did not win the NBA title. A year in which we fell in the first round to the Philadelphia 76ers in seven games. But a year in which he was able to be the number one player on the team because Jayson Tatum was out up for 90% of the season. So this was sort of the time for the Celtics to trade him to get something back for him. To get a. A contract in Paul George's that expires one year earlier than Jalen Brown. So you have a little bit more flexibility in your cap. Yeah, it's. This is sort of me just trying to grasp at straws and to make myself feel a little bit better.
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But there are sound like you believe it. So I'm happy for you.
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I see what they are doing. I don't think it's as bad as a lot of publications are making it out to be. Okay. But it's still not great. I love Jalen Brown. I wanted to keep Boston.
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Love Jalen Brown. We've talked about this before with like Raffy Devers. I know Mookie Betts is the bigger, but it's like teams looking at the numbers in a balance sheet as opposed to, you know, the, the full. Whatever a player brings to a team. Like Jaylen Brown meant a lot to Boston. He was, he did a lot of charitable work around the city. He was like really beloved by the city of Boston. And that means absolutely nothing when you've got this second apron or whatever the fuck it's called where they've got to figure out how to be under this cap that is. And it just sucks. It's just a bummer to a casual fan or a fan that just like players for who they are as people to have to go like, oh, well, if you run the numbers, it actually could maybe make sense. Instead it's like we lose Jaylen Brown and we get Paul George, who I, I know had a pretty decent performance in the playoffs last year. I remember specifically going, oh, playoff P. Went off, had a great game. Anyway, it, it just. The whole thing is kind of a mess. I did want to bring up. Did you guys see the six year old boy who loves Jaylen Brown react? Can we please play this clip because it's the cutest, saddest thing. I love you so much. And you are, you mean a lot to me. And you are, you are my favorite player in the whole NBA. And thank you. Thank you for everything that you said.
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What this.
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Thank you. I genuinely am not like playing it up. That genuinely brings tears to my eyes. He's so sad. And to be six years old and to have the presence of mind to say thank you at a sad moment is so like, it really struck me like I cried the first time I saw you because he just purely is feeling his feelings. He's like, thank you so much for everything. You are my favorite player. His name is Gio. He's six. And I Don't know if you saw this, Isabella, but Jaylen Brown commented on the video and said, it's okay, little bro. We will always be friends.
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Aw. Not with that jersey. That's right.
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And then I think Gio responded. It basically was like, oh, I can be a fan of both. And now Gio, we could talk about that later. I don't know. I don't know if you can be a Sixers and Celtics fan, but we'll make an exception for you. We can suspend your suspension on that one. I'll talk to you, to FIFA and I'll let them know. Yeah, I just. It's a. It's a bummer. It's sad. It's sad for the city.
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Sure.
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Maybe there's more to come. Maybe we should trust in Brad Stevens. Maybe there's something else that's. I just can't see it yet. But LeBron.
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What if this is all a way to bring LeBron in, okay, for a year, be interesting.
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And then what? Like, you know what I mean? I like drop picks. I don't like that people are now saying, like, this proves that Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum don't like, like each other. And they pulled up Tatum's statement, and they said it was, like, very boilerplate because, you know, but I think he said, like, you know, nice stuff.
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We also don't know what he said in private as well. He could have rang him immediately and said, mate, this sucks. Hate that you're leaving.
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Yeah. I mean, what could you possibly say other than what Gio said? Like, short of that, what can you say that would make people go, wow, they really liked each other? So. So it's a bummer. And Jalen went on, and as he does, he streams a lot, and he went on and said that he doesn't feel like they. He. He said, I wasn't thrilled with the amount of respect that was shown during this process, so whatever that means, we'll keep an eye on it. But Jaylen Brown training to the 76ers and. And Paul George and Mitchell Robinson to the Celtics. So everything's coming up Celtics.
D
You never know.
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The market just wasn't there for him. Don't know why. It just wasn't there for him.
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You never know. All right, the big news from the weekend, something that you've probably heard so much about. And look, in the era of misinformation, it was so hard this weekend to parse what was real and what wasn't. When it came to this royal wedding at Madison Square Garden between Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. Leading up to the event, people were dumbstruck. Off foundation.
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Dumbfounded.
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Awestruck. Dumbfounded and awestruck that they were confused by the fact that it was happening at msg. A lot of people were like, no, she wouldn't. This is a ruse. This is not real. It's just going to be something else. The real wedding happened in Rhode island, or the real wedding will be taking place the pen. The Penn Station trains will take all these famous guests away to the actual ceremony. Because she would never have her wedding at Madison Square Garden. She got. She got married at Madison Square Garden. They got married at Madison Square Garden this weekend. Congratulations to the beautiful couple. 1000. Chris is not clapping. Let it be noted. Chris did not clap.
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Cannot care less.
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Why do you hate love?
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You couldn't care any less.
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Cannot care less.
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No.
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All right. Well, they got married in front of an. An intimate ceremony of 1,000 people. A lot of people reported on who was there. We've got a master guest list in front of us here. And there were. Look, like I said, a lot of headlines about this wedding, but for the sake of time and also for the sake of. It's hard to verify most of this stuff, I thought we could discuss this wedding through the conceit of a bit. And that bit is one that rings relatively true to me as someone who eventually is going to plan a wedding.
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Ooh. And you'll realize how fast you can get to a thousand people if you want to.
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Really interesting the list.
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And you're like, you know, you put somebody on there, like, that person needs a plus one. Well, what about his brother? Well, okay. Well, also, you know, we have family. Everything speeds so fast.
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I mean, it did look like George Kittle's parents were invited, which I was like, that's. But anyway, outside of the friends and family of it all, we've got a list in front of us of all the big names, and there are a lot of big celebrity names. Brady, can you just read off randomly from the list? List a couple of the big names.
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Picking a section. Here we go. Patrick Mahomes, Paul McCartney, Paul Rudd, Pete Wentz, Peyton Manning, Reese Witherspoon, Rich Eisen. Like, that's just the P to R section. And that's starting after Pat McAfee and Pat Monahan from Train.
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Okay, Pat Monahan from Train. What the fuck was he doing there? That was crazy. And he got a plus one. I was like, excuse. Anyway, there's a lot of people that got invited, so I thought it would be Fun. Fun for us to, you know. Typically, wedding tables seat about eight, so I wanted us all to build our ideal table using the confirmed, relatively confirmed list of guests that Brady compiled for us. The master list of 8 people at a table. Who would you have going first? Is going to be the guy who clearly cares about this the least. It's our master editor, Chris. Chris. Who would be your table and why of eight at Taylor and Travis's wedding.
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He's wearing jeans, by the way.
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Clearly me, Adam Sandler. Because Adam Sandler. Adam Scott. We assume that this is the Adam Scott, the actor and not the Australian golfer. Either way, I'd have Adam. Either of those Adam Scott's on my table. Adam Scott. Love Parks and Rec. Can talk about Parks and Rec all day. Beck was heavily into becoming deck in the late 2000s when I was like,
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isn't he, like, famously a horrendous hang?
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Could be.
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Okay. You don't care.
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I don't know.
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But you'll find out for sure.
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I will find out. Exactly. Charlie Day.
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Great.
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I was.
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I was from Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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I was actually the first person in my school and perhaps in all of Melbourne to really get into It's Always Sunny. It was like the third episode of the first season.
A
What a hipster tape.
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My dad showed me. It was either the second or third episode. And my dad showed me an episode because he's like, I saw episode one. I think you'd like it. Check it out. And I told all my friends about it. They told all their friends about it. I. I don't know if It's Always Sunny would have made it to Australia had it not been for me.
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Wow.
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I got to tell Charlie Dave that.
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Okay, fantastic. He'd say, hey, thanks.
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Yep.
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Then not talk to you for the rest of the night.
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Yep, that's fine. Greta Gerwig.
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Okay.
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A lot of Greta Gerwig movies I love. So I talked to her about filmmaking. She's a phenomenal filmmaker. Steven Spielberg. Spielberg. Steven Spielberg. Same reason.
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Practice before you sit down at the table.
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I probably should. I just get nervous, and I'll probably just mumble like that at the table. And then Stephen Colbert as my number eight.
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Okay.
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No plus one for Chris the table. I guess Chris is rolling solo to the wedding so he could fit more famous people for the guy who said he couldn't care less. All right, Isabella, your turn. Who is your table at the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce wedding? Extravagant.
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Yep. One we got me. We got bae. My bae.
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That's right. A plus one.
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I'm bringing my plus one. Next up, we got Ethan Hawke. Love that man. Just because I like him. I like his acting. One of my favorite white guys so far. So I'll have Zoe Kravitz. I think she'll be a good time. I think she. And then, like, we'll have a corner. I have, like, subgroups. You know how at some point you create a subgroup at a table?
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Totally.
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So my subgroup will be, like, me, my partner, Ethan Hawke, and, like, Zoe Kravitz, when we want to have, like, a more serious conversation about art. And then also have Donald Glover there to kind of come in and out, maybe do a little bit of a serious conversation, but then also have some funniness. And then we also need some more funny people. So I got Conan o' Brien and I got Paul Rudd.
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Great.
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Love those two guys. And then a fun, interesting one will be Dakota Johnson. Oh, I think she's a sneaky, fun time.
A
Yeah. Interesting, interesting. I had her as a dark horse for my table, but I'll let you have her. But I am gonna also take Conan Brady. It's your turn now. Who is your.
C
Thought this one through very hard.
A
Yeah, please. I know you would.
C
Full disclaimer. I don't hear very well. So half of this table at a wedding is gonna be completely useless to me. I'm just gonna see you and that's it. Great. So I got me. I got my wife, who would be ecstatic and wondering who I killed to get an invite to the Swift wedding. Probably my only chance to ever sit and hang with Tom Hanks. So Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are going to be with me to include
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their date as well.
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Obviously, I'm not inviting these people to this table and not giving them a plus one.
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Yeah, I am. So anyway, keep going.
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Kind of out of left field, but this one, maybe for my wife, maybe for me. I feel like we have to have somebody from the Swift verse because she's going to want that experience. Cam Saunders would be at my table. Table Cam is one of Taylor Swift's dancers. He is possibly the greatest vibe on the planet. He also his brother plays on the Chiefs. They are both about the same size as defensive linemen. He's just like ball of energy. Having seen, like, the. The Eras tour documentary and stuff. He just seems like the best hang cam is my Cam. And his plus one would be at my table and then seat seven and eight, Lana Del Rey and the alligator guy, because God damn, do I have questions for them.
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And he got invited.
C
If she's got a plus one. I assume her husband's got to be on there.
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Does she have a plus one?
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Well, I do have a contingency. If Lana Ray. Lana Del Rey doesn't get a plus one, then Kevin Burkhart gets that hc.
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Because you know what?
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Sometimes I need a safe pick, and I know Kevin Burkhart, and I can just be like Kevin. I can't believe we're here. You want to just talk baseball for a while?
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I cannot.
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It's a solid eight that I have something to do with everyone.
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Very solid. That is very solid. And I appreciate it. Which means it's my turn now. I didn't necessarily do this ahead of time, but let me just go off top ahead. So it's going to be me and Dan, obviously, because I got a laugh at this whole thing with my plus one. So, Chris, I just want to reiterate. You're the only person who didn't. You know what?
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I'm getting rid of Becca, bringing in Izzy.
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It's too late. It's too. You'd rather you didn't bring your wife. You brought his glorious Beck.
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You brought your daughter. She'd be the only child at this wedding.
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That's all right.
C
You found a way to be a bigger at this wedding.
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She was the only. She was the only kid at Jordan Schusterman's wedding, and she stole the show. Thank you very much.
C
Okay.
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All right, so it's me and Dan to start off our table next. I'm really tempted to bring Ashanti just so I can tell her how much it meant to me that she was representation for girls with sideburns growing up. Nobody had sideburns. I did. She did. Representation matters. Shout out, Ashanti. I love you forever. Not at my table. But we are gonna be making fun of Dean Blandino. How the fuck did Dean Blandino get invited to Taylor Swift's wedding? Dean Blandino failed a standup comedian who became the rules analyst. He used to be the head of officiating for the NFL, and now he's like the guy who pops in and goes like, yeah, here's how that works. Here's the rule. And what was. He got invited to Taylor Swift's wedding. That's absolutely absurd.
C
You don't need to have him at your table. You just bring him in via satellite,
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like, four times to rule on whether or not that last piece of bread goes to me or if it goes to who else is sitting at my table. Okay, so it's me and Dan. I said, and. And maybe Ashanti. But I reserve the right to go back on that Conan o' Brien I know Isabella took. But he would be at my table because, like, that would truly be just like the person I genuinely most wanted to meet and talk to and hang out with at this wedding. So I'd be hanging out with Conan o' Brien and laughing with him, which would be just a dream. I am really tempted to choose Emma Stone. I also, like, just love Emma Stone. She's a big Jeopardy. Fan. She has shit on celebrity Jeopardy. And said that it doesn't count if you go on celebrity Jeopardy. And that she would never do it and would only want to do real Jeopardy. Um, so maybe that would sour our relationship, but I think maybe I just wouldn't bring up that I was on it and instead would talk to her about Jeopardy. In general as a fan. Then I would have Michael Strahan at my table. Now, I don't know if he's on the list here, but if you watch Good Morning America, they all got invited. George Stephanopoulos, Robin Roberts, Michael Strahan. And when they were talking about it the morning after, Strahan appeared to be the only one who was a little critical of them all being invited and confused about why they were there. He was very nice. He was like. And thank you to them for inviting us to this. But it was a little weird that the entire cast of Good Morning America was invited to the. And so I'd have him there just as, like, a skeptical person to laugh at stuff with. How many am I at at this point?
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You're at six.
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Okay. Oh, we're getting. We're kicking. Sorry. Ashanti actually kicking her off. And that's fine because she'd want to be with Nelly anyway, and we don't have room for both of them. So sorry to Ashanti. But I would bring in with my next member of my table, Mike Vrabel.
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Nice. I thought about him too, because I
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have a lot of questions, and I think between me and Conan o', Brien, and since my table would be near Isabella's table, I could probably get Dakota Johnson to come. She seems like the kind of person who would be unaf to go, like, what happened with you? And did you see the video of Mike Vrabel, who, again, was invited to this wedding and I'm not really sure why. Did you see the video of him and his wife getting into the car to come to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding?
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I did not.
A
What would you think if it were Mike Vrabel and His wife. After all that has happened in the off season, the allegations of infidelity, et cetera. What would you think if you were Mike Vrabel's pr. What? How would you have advised that the two of them interact? It's the two of them leaving a hotel and getting into a car.
D
Oh, you know, walking out, hands holding. Then he opens up the car door, lets her in, then falls. Goes back into the car with her. How? Like that?
A
Yeah. I also would have advised that. That is the. That is not what happened. Oh, God. It was giving Justin Bieber Haley B. No, where he.
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Where he just skates away.
A
He walked ahead of her. He goes first, beelines for the car, opens the door, gets in. And then she's just like, okay. And then she gets in. Now, Dan did point out to me, hey, he gets in and goes to the back of the car. Which I was like, okay. Yeah, better than, I guess, getting in and sitting in the first available seat and making everybody climbing over you. But, I mean, Vrabel, what the fuck? And so how many am I at now? That's six.
C
That's seven. You had the option to have his,
A
but I kicked out Ashanti. No, she's not. I met Sam and then I would. I mean, there's so many.
D
All the plus ones sit at one table.
A
Yeah, they got included. They gotta sit away from me. Then I would. At 7. I'm having ice Spice because I got questions. I don't know if you guys saw Michael Rubin from Fanatics who has a white party. Usually that's the day that it was Fourth of July weekend. But he moved it because he said, quote, he didn't want people to have to choose between the Fanatics white party or the Taylor Travis wedding. I mean, he's right, right, right.
C
He didn't want them to make that
A
choice because what do we think that choice would have been? Nobody would have gone to the White Party. So they moved it up a couple days, and two stories came out of it that caught my. That caught my eye. One was reported by a gossip mag about Tom Brady. They said that he spent most of the party talking to Tiana Taylor and then at the end of the night, disappeared for a little with Alex Earl. So I have a lot of questions there. But more important questions is that we saw a picture of Ice Spice kissing Toby Maguire. Oh, what do you mean? Aw?
D
Well, doesn't MJ have orange hair like some. Like, no.
A
Okay, so you're alleging he's got a type. Yeah, well, usually the type is like yacht Girl, from what I understand, didn't Toby get in touch trouble at the last one of these for leaving with a. Like a 21 year old or something.
C
Toby, who I believe is 52, very
A
old, very old and looks it. But he, right after the white party last year was, I think when he did that pap walk with his children. And he was like me and all my kids out at the store to be like, I'm a family guy. Instead of the narrative that was running around him, which was that he left with a really young lady from the wedding.
C
How fast Ice Spices publicist mobilized. What do you mean story?
A
What did they say?
C
They came out and said, no, no, no, they weren't kissing. It's just a bad camera angle. All they were doing was talking and sharing a vape.
A
Fair enough. I mean, I guess that's a good explanation. As good as any.
C
Unless you've seen the photo where they're clearly kissing.
A
Yes, no, definitely kissing.
D
She was just out exhaling the. The vape smoke.
A
Can't waste the vape. You can't waste vape smoke. You got to blow. He doesn't know how to Fruit flavored right into his mouth. So that's. I mean, if you're going to kiss Spider man, at least do it upside down. Come on, Ice Spice.
C
All right, you're at seven. Pressure's on.
A
Oh, it's my last pick. It's like, do I take it seriously or do I goof off? I think my last pick. I think I'm sitting with Lena Dunn because did you hear what she said in her speech? In her speech the night before? They had like a smaller gathering the night before of, I don't know, a hundred people, I think was their rehearsal dinner. And she gave a speech in which she said that American football is just straight guys reenacting gay porn. And apparently the room did not like it. And I think that's very funny.
D
I would kill for an audio. Yes, I want an audio.
A
Yeah. And so I just want her there so that she can say something that would make Mike Frable uncomfortable. It mainly seems to be the thesis statement of my entire wedding table. A lot of incredible guests. Sorry to Simone Biles, who I would love to sit next to and see all the different ways that she can sit on a chair. What was Sasha Baron Cohen doing there? I feel like is. Is the biggest question mark for me.
C
I mean, if you're just a fan and you're like, hey, do you think Sasha Baron Cohen to show up?
A
Do you think it's so they can say my wife. Do you think it was so that Travis could have him go, my wife. Fuck.
C
That sounds like a real scenario.
A
That's exactly what it was.
C
I also heard the fact that he had Adam. Adam Sandler officiate the wedding. It's very possible that he had Sacha Baron Cohen there just to save my wife.
A
Adam Sandler officiating. And I heard 20 minutes each for vows. Good.
C
No, he doesn't know 20 minutes worth of words.
A
Well, I was going to say Travis's was just four sentences. It just took him a minute. You know, Taylor had a lot of interesting and eloquent and beautiful stuff to say. Say, Travis just struggled to get through to say squirrel. He didn't know how to pronounce squirrel. Congratulations to them. Incredible. Definitely a spectacle. I heard they recorded it. Guests were informed that they were recording the whole thing. So if it is being released for content, like moths to a flame, we will watch, I'm sure, and there will be plenty. Hopefully they put the drama out there. Any drama that happened, I do want to see.
D
Oh, no. It's going through, like, 20 rounds of approvals before that comes out.
A
Yeah, well, maybe. What if they didn't instead?
D
I know I want the mess.
A
I know I want all the mess. Okay, and then the last thing we have is a fun little segment here. I don't know if you guys saw this last week. Jorge Posada, Yankees legend who famously. Isabella, I know you weren't around for this, but I do feel, as a Red Sox fan, it is my responsibility to tell you Jorge Posada was the most famous with me for reportedly pissing on his hands all the time to treat his calluses. He would pee, like, on the field. No, no, no, no. Sorry. I should have. She's right. She's right. I should have specified.
D
I was like, baseball was once different.
C
No, no.
A
But as a child, if your name is Posada, which sounds enough like piss, and you're a Yankee and I hate you, and that story comes out. Jorge Posada. That's backstory for you. But he's a Yankees legend. He went on a podcast. We can't play you a clip of it because he says it in Spanish. But he says. Here's the English translation of what he said on Apriando sp. He said, I can't watch today's baseball. He can't watch it. Kirk Herbstreet of football and dog fame, agreed, retweeted it, went on some rant about how he also finds baseball to basically be at this point. Unwatchable. Now you, dear listener, might think that we at casuals disagree with that. We talk about baseball a lot and I love baseball. But actually, I agree baseball is unwatchable. And I've got three pieces of evidence here to present to you to prove it. Exhibit A. The Fourth of July game between the Chicago Cubs and the St. Louis Cardinals. A fog so thick descended upon this game that infielders said they could not see the ball. Conditions were so bad that when the Cardinals attempted to challenge a pitch, the umpire announced that the car all stands because the ABS system was, quote, not operational at the moment. The fog was so thick that if you look at pictures, you can't see anything.
D
Redo it.
A
Watchable.
C
Literally. Unwatchable.
A
Unwatchable. They ended up delaying the game for 15 minutes in the sixth inning. And then the Cardinals go on to win three. Nothing but still unwatchable. Exhibit B. The Omaha Storm Chasers. That's a minor league team. They are the AAA affiliate of the KC Royals. Last I chose checked, they postponed one of their games recently, the Omaha Storm Chasers did. Because of a storm. Unwatchable. Wanted to watch the Storm Chasers. You couldn't because they were chasing a storm. Exhibit C of why Jorge Posada is right and baseball is unwatchable. During the Mariners Hot Dogs from Heaven promotion over the weekend, which I'm sure you all know, but in case you don't, you don't is when hot dogs fall from the sky with little parachutes on them. One of the par. One of the parachutes and hot dogs got caught on the camera, temporarily blocking the camera so that you could not watch the baseball game. Unwatchable.
D
Just gliz in everyone's face.
A
Oh, my God, Isabella,
D
that lens was glizzed out. Sorry. That's not funny. I'm bored.
A
Saying I'm bored during a podcast. We'll wrap it up. We'll wrap it up.
D
I panicked on what to say. I'm sorry.
A
The hot dog did eventually fall, prompting huge cheers from the crowd at the game. But still, that crowd agrees with me. Unwatchable. If a hot dog is blocking your camera. Unwatchable. And for those three reasons, I think they're right. Sometimes baseball truly is. Is unwatchable. But obviously we love it. Okay, but. But now that. Now, jokes aside, we do love baseball. One thing did happen that fucking pissed me off in baseball this week, and I know Brady knows what it is. Okay, this was. When was this. Was this Sunday?
C
This was Sunday. Yeah, Sunday. Because I was on the. I Was listening to it on the drive home from the Women's Lacrosse League All Star game in Annapolis.
A
Ally Ally Brady was at Women's sporting events live supporting versus team Izzy Skein. Okay, who won?
B
Stay around for the second half, Brady.
C
I did not make it to the end. Extremely hot out. It was a back to back with the men's game. It was very hot out.
A
And now I'm sure that was a callback to when Brady incorrectly said the score of a WNBA game. But funny that it worked out for you, Chris. Isn't that delicious? So the Marlins played the A's, right? The A's. This team without a city. But they played in Sacramento against the Athletics. And through seven innings, Yuri Perez had a perfect game. Isabella, do you remember what a perfect game is?
D
Yes, I remember you when you told me.
A
So it's no walks, no hits, no errors. Nobody from the other team gets on base. To have that through seven innings is very difficult. You might be thinking, was his pitch count really high? Not really. Brady, what was it?
C
93, 92.
A
92. When suddenly the Marlins manager comes out and takes him out of the game. Absolutely. For safety reasons. So I guess the reasoning would be he had recently had, I think a season ago or two seasons ago, he had Tommy John surgery. And so.
C
And this is his third start off the IL.
A
Third start off the IL. He was 90 something pitches in. And. And so that's the, I guess, reasoning. But still, what the fuck? A guy's got a perfect game going.
C
Something that has only happened 24 times in baseball history. 26 if you count Ernie Shore and Armando Galarraga. 24 times in baseball history.
A
In baseball history. Something that baseball takes very seriously. That has gone on for a long time. It rarely happens. He had it through seven. They take him out. The best part of the story, the Marlins were up 8 nothing when he came out. Reliever Lake Bacher, and I'm sorry to this man gave up the perfect game. The no hitter and the shutout in only three batters. First batter he faces, he walks him. There goes the perfect game. Next batter hits a single. There goes the no hit, third batter, RBI double. They've now scored a run. There goes the shutout. Then he walks another guy. The bases are loaded. Next batter, grand slam.
D
That's really annoying.
A
Absolutely insanely poetic ending to taking your pitcher out when he's got a perfect game in the seventh inning for the guy to come in and just. Just completely blow it. Almost to the point where they lost. They almost lost. They scored again. Thank God. Because they ended up winning 98A's fans again, the team that was being perfect gamed no hit, was not allowed on base. Even they were upset with the decision. Do we have that clip?
D
Here we go. Damn.
C
Saying shame right now.
A
Yes, they shamed the Marlins. How do you take a guy out in the seventh inning? I understand his arm might explode, but that adds to the theater of it all. He had a perfect game through eight when his elbow exploded. We'll remember him for that forever.
C
Take a shot at being absolutely legendary. Like, when you have that chance, those things that ring out for the entirety of baseball history, you take a chance at it. Yes, it's a team game. Yes, you're trying to win a World Series. But to minimize the opportunity to be absolutely legendary, to be perfect, because there is a chance of injury, because there is a chance of fatigue, there's a chance that it hurts your season outcome. You do it because, like, this guy has a chance to go down in history as having the best day possible. The best day history. He is at. He is pitching the best he will ever pitch in his life. He's having the game of his lifetime.
A
I know.
C
I feel him in there. Let him do it.
A
I feel bad for him because he's, you know, you don't want to throw your manager under the bus, but he's probably like, that's as close as I'm ever going to get to that. So I guess I hope that he goes on to have another perfect game sometime in his career. Because if not, he's going to have that manager on a list and he will be well within his rights to do so. Because I'd be pretty honking pissed if a manager did that to me. And so you know what? Maybe Jorge Posada a had a point. Maybe baseball is unwatchable. I'm just kidding. We love baseball here. Okay, listen, we've been talking for four hours, so maybe we should take a quick break. We're not going to leave you high and dry, though, as is our duty, as Chris always does, unless he's on a walkabout for six months in the middle of Australia. He has put together a list of what you can watch if you want to watch some sports this week. And we're going to hear that from him right after a break. It's casuals. We'll be right back.
D
You're never just one thing.
A
You're the boss.
D
Hey, Google, when's my next meeting?
E
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B
Rugby league, state of Origin, game three. It's the decider. This is on Wednesday, 6am Eastern on FS2. New South Wales. They won game one. Queensland. They won game two. Whoever wins game three is the champion for the next 12 months.
A
Very exciting. We all can't wait. What else can they watch? Chris?
B
The Tour de France.
A
The Tour de France, yeah.
B
Started Saturday, runs through the 26th of July. You can start, you can start watching that at about 6 to 7am every morning on NBC Sports Network. Some days it starts at 6. Someday 6.
A
30.
B
Someday 7. Yeah. So check it out. Tadeh Pogachar is chasing his historic fifth title, while Jonas Vindega is chasing the Euro Tour double. It's only been done a handful of times, but that's the Euro d' Italia and the Tour de France. So he could potentially win both of those in the same year, which would be fantastic.
A
Exhausted. That is absolutely a lot of cycling crazy. Okay, and then lastly, what can they watch?
B
Summer league has begun. On Thursday, we have the Utah Jazz versus the Washington Wizards. This is Thursday, July 9th at 9:00pm Eastern. This game will feature number one overall draft pick A.J. deBancer. He'll debut for the Wizards. Number two overall draft pick Darren Peterson. He'll also feature for the Jazz. He's already made his debut, played really well in his debut for, for the Jazz's summer league team. But it's a chance to watch the first and second overall draft pick, so definitely check that out. You can watch all summer league action on ESPN and Prime Video over the next couple of weeks.
A
I love it. I love the commitment to the, to the bid itself. I love that you find things maybe people aren't thinking about. It is crazy to suggest that at nine o' clock on Thursday we watch summer league basketball.
C
Something's great, fun matchup. There is no Jazz in Utah and no Wizards in Washington.
A
Well, you don't know that.
C
You can't been here for a while, haven't seen one.
A
Well, maybe you should start looking. You need some magic.
D
Let us know how many Jazz clubs in in Utah.
A
Yeah, I'm sure somebody must have at least come up with one just for the bit to go like come to Utah's number one Jazz, you know, I would assume so. It's a good business venture. I feel like, like Utah. By the way, that's where the Talons are now. That's our AUSL team. They're the Utah Talons. So we got to start putting cream in our soda. I think as Talons fans, you guys, that's our thing. Okay. Hey, that's a podcast. Thank you guys for tuning in and for sending emails and voicemails. We're gonna take a look at some of those in our second episode of the week, which will come out on Thursday. Hope you all had a great fourth of July and a lovely weekend. Keep watching the World Cup. My God, Those round of 16 matches have been fantastic. We'll talk about those on Thursday as well, and we'll be joined by a guest. We got Rosebud Baker coming up this week, right?
C
Correct.
A
Awesome. So we'll see her a little later in the week. That's it for today. We love you. We mean it. Bye. This episode has been presented by Xfinity.
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Date: July 7, 2026
Host: Katie Nolan (A), with Isabella (D), Brady (C), and Chris (B)
Podcast Theme: A fun, accessible sports conversation for newbies and superfans alike, recapping major summer sports events with humor, debate, and commentary.
This summer episode of Casuals is packed as Katie Nolan and her rotating crew recap the action from the 2026 FIFA World Cup’s first-ever round of 32, dig into Wimbledon’s latest upsets and best moments, process the blockbuster Jaylen Brown NBA trade, and banter their way through build-your-own celebrity wedding tables for the Swift-Kelce extravaganza at Madison Square Garden. The crew dissects online soccer debates, celebrates underdog magic, and even discusses which Taco Bell menu items best represent World Cup goal scorers—with lots of laughter, raw fandom, and running gags in true "recess, not homework" spirit.
Context: This is the first World Cup expanded to 48 nations, making for a true round of 32 after group stages. Katie ranks all 16 knockout games, with Isabella cueing up match numbers and Brady/Chris diving in with context or challenges.
16–13:
12 (Canada-South Africa):
11 (Mexico-Ecuador):
10 (Brazil-Japan):
9 (Norway-Ivory Coast):
8 (England-DR Congo):
7 (Egypt-Australia, PKs):
6 (USA-Bosnia):
Top 5 Games:
Isabella’s ‘Wimbledon Superlatives’:
Host framing: “Let’s build our ideal table of 8 using actual wedding guest lists.”
| Host | Notable Picks | Rationale/Favorite Justification | |-------------|-------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------| | Chris | Himself, Adam Sandler, Greta Gerwig, Spielberg, Colbert | “If I won the jacket, I get to do whatever I want with it.” (re: McIlroy/Wimbledon, B, 66:13) | | Isabella | Herself & partner, Ethan Hawke, Zoe Kravitz, Conan, Paul Rudd, Dakota Johnson | “I have sub-groups at my table … a more serious conversation about art.” (D, 83:04) | | Brady | Himself & wife, Tom Hanks + Rita Wilson, Taylor’s dancer Cam Saunders, Lana Del Rey & “alligator guy” | “I do have a contingency: if Lana Del Rey doesn’t get a plus-one, Kevin Burkhart gets that seat.” (C, 85:11) | | Katie | Herself & Dan, Conan O’Brien, Emma Stone, Michael Strahan, Mike Vrabel, Ice Spice, Lena Dunham | “I want her there so she can say something that would make Mike Vrabel uncomfortable … [It] seems to be the thesis statement of my entire table.” (A, 93:21) |
This episode is a masterclass in making sports conversational, funny, and full of heart—offering recaps, opinions, pop-culture crossovers, and tons of relatable sidebars for fans of any level.